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[QUOTE=*****man;1537055]I doubt many oily girls are anal virgins. I'm sure the ones who don't do it have tried it and decided it's not something they want to do several times a day.[/QUOTE]I've just read a post (#2326) from the Annies Massage thread about this issue. Someone there e-mailed Aey to ask for her A+ recommendations, and Aey replied that none of the ladies at Annies Massage offer this kind of service.
Anal sex for women is very uncommon in Thailand, much less common than in other countries. It's something some massage ladies learn to do in response to interest from foreign customers.
I'd say that most Thai massage places don't offer anal sex, it's not available there, and most of their women probably never had anal sex.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1537048]If the extra 500 THB goes to the lady, then this is sure to encourage more ladies to start having anal sex with their guys.
If you want to have more and better-looking women who are willing to take a good anal drilling from their guys, then this is the way to do it.[/QUOTE]Everything you write sounds very legit. But. Assuming you are right why do only girls from Bamboo that provided anal sex "for free" in other oil massage shops (Bo, Cheer, Ploy, Toey / Vodka) do it now for a surcharge? Why aren't there more girls who provide anal sex?
My best guess is that Bo (or who ever runs this shop) is just trying to raise the bar for the rates.
Anyway time will tell what the real reason is and how it will play out. Even I'm not happy with the surcharge I'm still considering booking Cheer for an outcall.
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[QUOTE=Zauberfee; 1537092]Everything you write sounds very legit. But. Assuming you are right why do only girls from Bamboo that provided anal sex "for free" in other oil massage shops (Bo, Cheer, Ploy, Toey / Vodka) do it now for a surcharge? Why aren't there more girls who provide anal sex?
My best guess is that Bo (or who ever runs this shop) is just trying to raise the bar for the rates.
Anyway time will tell what the real reason is and how it will play out. Even I'm not happy with the surcharge I'm still considering booking Cheer for an outcall.[/QUOTE]To Zauberfree.
I have a good session with a cute girl at Tulip a few week ago this is the first girl that I know don't offer anal at Tulip she is new only been there for 2 week a young girl is rare there but good BBBJ and cim very good GFE.
Fast Eddie 48
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Bamboo. Extra surcharge
I hereby boycott bamboo for its attempt to raise the charge in oilies,
The same girls while working in other oilies used to charge 1500, I am not paying 2500 for the same service.
I have options. I repeat "I HAVE OPTIONS"
Call me cheap charlie if you want, be my guest.
I am firm in my resolve not to play into the hands of people who want to raise an already high price.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1537077]I've just read a post (#2326) from the Annies Massage thread about this issue. Someone there e-mailed Aey to ask for her A+ recommendations, and Aey replied that none of the ladies at Annies Massage offer this kind of service.
Anal sex for women is very uncommon in Thailand, much less common than in other countries. It's something some massage ladies learn to do in response to interest from foreign customers.
I'd say that most Thai massage places don't offer anal sex, it's not available there, and most of their women probably never had anal sex.[/QUOTE]Well, Aey may say this but I can testify that #24 Aor is a-level and really gets into it. She loves DP, a cock in one hole and a big vibrator in the other. I have no knowledge or experiences with her as to whether she feels the same about two dicks. :D
Number 41 also told me there are a-level ladies working there. She said something to me about the young ladies at Annie's who let you do anything to them. She's not one of them.
Aor must have a reputation for good a-level because on a follow-up outcall with her after a busy weekend her ass was really sore. I'm sure I've read posts about other Annie's ladies that mentioned a-level. The mamasan is the person you need to talk to about this. She doesn't answer emails, but you can call and talk to her. She comes across as being unfriendly, but she tries to be helpful.
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[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1537125]I hereby boycott bamboo for its attempt to raise the charge in oilies,
The same girls while working in other oilies used to charge 1500, I am not paying 2500 for the same service.
I have options. I repeat "I HAVE OPTIONS"
Hi AL,
I was at Bamboo, Soi 8, 2 days ago and paid 900 baht for a 2 hours oil massage and 1500B for Cheer. Plus a 300b tip. The session was nothing exceptional, except Cheer is friendly and the time was well spent. No anal involved. The rooms are refurbished than what it was during the Aviva days. I am surprised they asked 2500B from you for the extras. Even when you call them for an outcall, they ask for all inclusive 3000B. I never get hooked to one place. With so many options around, its a buyers market.
Regards,
Z.
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[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1537125]I hereby boycott bamboo for its attempt to raise the charge in oilies,
The same girls while working in other oilies used to charge 1500, I am not paying 2500 for the same service.
I have options. I repeat "I HAVE OPTIONS"
Hi AL,
I was at Bamboo, Soi 8, 2 days ago and paid 900 baht for a 2 hours oil massage and 1500B for Cheer. Plus a 300b tip. The session was nothing exceptional, except Cheer is friendly and the time was well spent. No anal involved. The rooms are refurbished than what it was during the Aviva days. I am surprised they asked 2500B from you for the extras. Even when you call them for an outcall, they ask for all inclusive 3000B. I never get hooked to one place. With so many options around, its a buyers market.
Regards,
Z.[/QUOTE]If you don't engage in anal, they don't pop you for the extra 500 baht. I spent an hour with Cheer in late Dec and was charged 2500 baht. 1500 plus 500 butt penalty, and 500 for the hour oily fee.
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[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1537076]Ploy and Vodka were for sure not anal virgins before they started to work in Bamboo. Both served A+ in Cherry massage without any extra money. BTW, I heard (is this true?) that co-owner of Bamboo is Boo (ex-Mango girl). If this is true then I had a pleasure to visit her back door also without +1000Bath. Of course if girl is nice and work hard then the tip is natural thing.[/QUOTE]The owner of Bamboo is Bam. Bam used to work at Aviva (Bamboo is in the old Aviva location) and then moved to Mango.
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[quote=dan7373; 1537048]if the extra 500 thb goes to the lady, then this is sure to encourage more ladies to start having anal sex with their guys.
it needs to be a regular surcharge to persuade the ladies, because it's not easy to start having anal sex at first. it takes some practice and experience, before the lady becomes good at it. which means that if you offer a 500thb tip to a lady who has never done anal before, then she'll probably reject it, because it's such a hassle to do anal for the first time ever. but if the lady knows that she'll get an extra 500 thb every time for anal sex with a guy, then she has a much better reason to go through the trouble of having anal sex for the first time and getting better at it with practice.
if you want to have more and better-looking women who are willing to take a good anal drilling from their guys, then this is the way to do it.[/quote]my guess it that 500 baht will not encourage "more and better-looking women" in the oilies to start taking it up the tradesman's entrance. the better looking women don't work at the pse joints. it is as one poster said, bam's attempt at raising the bar. soi 8 is a tough location. she is already 100 bath more on her oily fee. with the nice rooms, i can see her rational, but add the butt-penalty and all of the sudden you are 600 baht above the other shops. that's 30% over the other shops. now if it really was a better looking gal, then i would have no issue with it, i would gladly pay it, but it is not. it is the same old gals that have been taking it in the pooper for quite a time, especially in the case of bo and cheer.
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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1537115]To Zauberfree.
I have a good session with a cute girl at Tulip a few week ago this is the first girl that I know don't offer anal at Tulip she is new only been there for 2 week a young girl is rare there but good BBBJ and cim very good GFE.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Who was she?
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[quote=zauberfee; 1537030]yes, maybe you're right. but what if just a minority of customers takes part in the internet world, no matter here, or another forum or bangkok rough guide or any other forum?
i'm unhappy with the surcharge as any of you but maybe this is just the beginning[/quote]all regular customers are going to be at least a bit peeved.
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[quote=goatscrot;1537181]my guess it that 500 baht will not encourage "more and better-looking women" in the oilies to start taking it up the tradesman's entrance. the better looking women don't work at the pse joints. it is as one poster said, bam's attempt at raising the bar. soi 8 is a tough location. she is already 100 bath more on her oily fee. with the nice rooms, i can see her rational, but add the butt-penalty and all of the sudden you are 600 baht above the other shops. that's 30% over the other shops. now if it really was a better looking gal, then i would have no issue with it, i would gladly pay it, but it is not. it is the same old gals that have been taking it in the pooper for quite a time, especially in the case of bo and cheer.[/quote]in porn films, porn stars who have anal sex get paid more money. it's a well accepted practice there, because not every porn star is willing to have anal sex.
it's all about supply and demand. people wouldn't be paying extra money for nothing, if this didn't encourage more and better-looking women to have anal sex with guys. and if it works this way in porn, then it's reasonable to say that it works the same way for other sex-workers too, uncluding massage ladies in thailand.
i've encountered thai ladies before who offered me anal sex in exchange for extra pay. and that extra pay they asked for was 500 bht. this was actually a number of years ago. i'm surprised that sex-prices haven't gone up in thailand, despite the inflation of prices for living expenses.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1537223]In porn films, porn stars who have anal sex get paid more money. It's a well accepted practice there, because not every porn star is willing to have anal sex.
I've encountered Thai ladies before who offered me anal sex in exchange for extra pay. And that extra pay they asked for was 500 BHT. This was actually a number of years ago. I'm surprised that sex-prices haven't gone up in Thailand, despite the inflation of prices for living expenses.[/QUOTE]Good point about the porn industry, which also pays extra for DPs, gangbangs, etc.
There are escort agencies with ladies who do MMF gigs, e.g. Bangkok Hot. They get paid double. Does that surprise anyone or seem unreasonable?
Some of the escort agencies charge extra for a-level, in fact I believe most do, for example Bangkok Escorts. A few do not, e.g. Bangkok Gold.
I'm ambivalent. I don't like paying the extra charge, but understand that economically it is logical. Some ladies do it but don't like it. Naturally they will want something extra. But what about the ladies you actually like it? Right off the top of my head, three ladies immediately come to mind. If the lady really likes to take it up the ass, should she get more for doing it? Of course it's not what the lady likes and dislikes. It's what the market will support.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;1537223]I'm surprised that sex-prices haven't gone up in Thailand, despite the inflation of prices for living expenses.[/QUOTE]Prices at the oilies and soapies have not risen (well Soapies went up 100 baht when a new tax was imposed) , but gogo prices and FL prices have doubled since I moved here in '99. Soapies and oilies were traditionally more expensive than gogos and FLs. BG gals were 500 baht ST and any gal could be had at Thermae for 1k, and many would go for 500 baht as well. Now that is not the case. I remember when Baron's first opened. I think that was 03. The thought of spending 2300 baht for 2 hrs was well, a bit of an expensive thought compared to gogos where every gal would go for 1k and the bf was 500 baht at most. Now oilies seem like a bargain, and there is the added bonus of not really having to worry about getting good service.
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[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1537278]There are escort agencies with ladies who do MMF gigs, e.g. Bangkok Hot. They get paid double. Does that surprise anyone or seem unreasonable? It's what the market will support.[/QUOTE]The entire point of Baron's and then Tulip was the mantra,"all girls do everything" and here is the price. That was the selling point. You went, you paid, and you got everything. There were no levels of service. That is what made them so great. If you chose to work there, you provided three hole service, CIM, rimming, etc. As a punter you did not have to worry about bad attitudes or lack or service.
I have no issue with what Bam want to charge, but put it in the fee. The extra thing is really annoying and really changes the entire model of what a PSE place is all about. The slippery slope started when gals who were not A+ started to be employed at these shops. Performance has been effected.