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[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1249198]You might need to bring a few paper bags, too. One for the "girl," and a few the the local soi dogs! ;)[/QUOTE]Listen, the next time you post something this funny, you need to post a warning in the title!
I hate having beer coming out my nose and having to clean my monitor!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1250288]Your right! Knowing the engineers they will built something real stupid. In the end I wouldn't be surprise that they beautify the place and make the traffic worse! Maybe they will built a lane right into Beergarden? Solution for traffic is built another lane just like they want to build flyovers on Sukhumvit because they can't direct traffic. LBM[/QUOTE]Building more lanes, as the last resort to improve traffic flow, is a well known traffic engineering fallacy. All it does is help encourage bigger traffic jams.
I can only imagine with another lane that Reach Road will become even more dangerous for pedestrians to cross. Narrowing the popular pedestrian promenade to accommodate more vehicles seems like a stupid idea for a tourist town that wants to sell its "beach" as an attraction.
Maybe they are just trying to get rid of the "working" girls. Take away all the benches and where will all the riff-raff, (Coconut Bar "hostesses and their assorted "camp followers"), sit and discuss the meaning of life. Just simple Thai logic to make it uncomfortable and they will move on.
In Pattaya, except for a couple of intersections with police boxes, even the most basic traffic management is non-existent. There are methods to manage and control traffic, but unfortunately, Thais have very little clue, and / or willingness to do it right. Riding a motorbike around Pattaya is an "e-ticket" death sport experience.
A few years ago they were considering some type of rail system, but I believe the business community shut it down. A "loop" train with stops at major tourist points would be an interesting addition. Tough for the "mafia" to make any money from it, though, (except for construction contracts).
As it stands today, no matter what they do, if there are more vehicles (cars, motorbikes, tour buses, delivery trucks, baht buses, etc.), the traffic is only going to get worse, a lot worse!
Some Pattaya postcards:
Fon Tok, you are spot on regarding your observations regarding Thai logic. The Russians want Pattaya for their own playground. They have spiked real estate prices, and enjoy among other things. 90 day visas upon arrival. Guaranteed that in 10 years, Walking Street will be a strip of "beachfront" condos and overpriced hotels.
I agree it is going to be a mess! The new lane will be right up to the jogging path so the cement bench and coconut trees will still be there. I can see it now, more buses will now just stop on the left lane and sit. The songthaws now it take two lanes instead of one and that leaves the new lane in the end its gridlock like always.
Regarding the motorbikes, personally I think it is lot safer that driving a car around town. If you learn their habits and just let them past they will just fly by you and let them die.
LBM
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1250632]Some Pattaya postcards:[/QUOTE]Appreciate the pics. Really nice colors. The girl in the dark glasses is 6038222720_23a4df4bc3_z. Jpg has the cutest face I have seen a long time. :p Nice to see some faces.
Slim
[QUOTE=MrHeartbreak;1250443]By the next day, I was with a nice "non-working" girl and getting it for free. Which, of course, is even better. But I will not soon forget the experience of my first and only bar girl.[/QUOTE]"Nice","Non-working" girl in Pattaya. You have all the luck man. (and getting "it" for free). Even more luck!
[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi; 1250170]I had now finally arrived at the agogos of Walking Street. My veritable Holy Grail. I had been waiting months for this. Soi 6 this afternoon was merely a preliminary to more satisfying and eventful concupiscent activities to come. I had two sexual interludes in the first fifteen hours that I was in Pattaya: One from Insomnia, which turned out to be one of the best women I would have on my trip and the latter woman obtained on Soi 6 who was average at best. I tried to get two more on Soi 6 before going to the agogos, but neither wanted to go back to my hotel instead opting only to do short time in the dilapidated rooms above the bar. I took a pass on that, especially due to the fact that I had the upper hand with the luxury hotel, the cash, and numerous beautiful women to choose from in the agogos on Walking Street. I did not have to relegate myself to negotiating with bar girls on Soi 6.
The question at hand is how well I would do on my first night in the agogos on Walking Street. Before arriving in Pattaya I did research on the agogos and learned that they would be far more expensive than freelancers and girls in beer bars. I had the finances and was willing to pay top dollar for top women who were both attractive, pleasant of demeanor and willing to satisfy sexually as well as be sexually satisfied. I had heard that the women in the agogos were quite commercial, which I did not mind per se, so long as they put out sexually, and could be somewhat selective and possessive of an attitude. The selectivity I could surmount on account of the fact that I was in the catbird seat being that I had hundreds of women to choose from in the agogos. My concern was the issue of time. The agogos would start to shut down at 3 pm and I was concerned about having my overtures for bar fines rejected by the more attractive women in the agogos during the early hours of opening as a result of them maximizing on their earnings from lady's drinks, thus closing a key window of opportunity for me to effectuate sexual liaisons between 8 pm and 12 am I was looking to average three to four women a night on this trip. If I could not effectuate any sexual liaisons between the hours of 8 to 12 pm then I would have a difficult time trying to hit that number, thus possibly even pushing me to relegate my hunt to the discos in the 11th hour, which I was adamant about not doing due to the attitudes of the women and the men in the discos. However, much to my surprise and to the contrary of what I had read in the forums about Pattaya, this would not be the case. In fact, they would be actually pushing me out the door, though not on account of my physical attractiveness or sexual expertise (it would not have mattered if I looked like Sir Lancelot and had the staying power of a male lion) , which I wanted it to be and of which exists in every mongers dreams, but rather solely on account of maximizing economic gain by attempting to effectuate multitudinous bar fines. The first agogo that I would go into would be Alcatraz. Previously, I was unable to get the two women I wanted from two different bars on Soi 6 to accompany me back to my hotel on account of the fact they wanted to do only short time in the dilapidated rooms in the bar. I would now see how I would fare in the agogos. As J. Edgar Hoover said, 'You either improve or you deteriorate. '[/QUOTE]You have effectuated one excellent report, that I will relegate to my cerebrum, once fully digested and then encapsulated in ionic magnificence. But dey do haves nice breastises.
[quote=rocksoff; 1212941]believe me, it's up to you how long it takes, certainly more than 3 minutes. and whether she takes off her clothes. and you can pay i think 400 more and do "other things" at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s also.
of course chemistry matters, i get better performance with some than with others. there's one particular psycho at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s who guides your hands to the back of her head and challenges you to make her gag.[/quote]i'll be in pattaya feb 1 to 9. do you know this girl's name and if she still works there? thank you in advance.
After RTFF on Thailand General, Cambodia General, Bangkok, Pattaya, Phnom Penh, and ROD threads from Jan 1 (whew) I have decided to take my first ever mongering trip to the LOS. I want to thank all members for the excellent information and advise in their posts and especially those who have taken the time to respond directly to my inqueries. (Bunky, Chill Out, Dreams, Duniawala, and Daddy07) I apoligise if I missed anyone.
I have gleaned a lot of good information from these posts and an looking forward to this trip with a lot less trepidation as a result.
Nevertheless, there are still a few areas that I am unclear on and I am hoping a few experienced members will help me out. Since I will be spending most of my time in Pattaya I decided to post my questions on this thread.
1. Are prepaid cell phones available in Thailand?
2. Are there any karaoke bars that cater to farangs? (With BGs of course)
3. I have read in other forums that a genuine thai massage by a trained professional is a must do experience. Can anyone recommend a parlor in Pattaya for this treatment? (Preferrably with some kind of HE)
4. How can you identify the different types of bars (Gogos, Beer Bars, BJ Bars, etc.) from the outside or from a quich look around the interior?
5. Family and friends will want to see pictures of the wonderful time I had in LOS. Can anyone recommend some easy to reach tourist attractions in and around Pattaya?
Has anyone stayed at the Secrets hotel at Soi 14 and WS? It looks pretty good and reasonable from the website. Recommendations, advise?
6. I hope to go next month, but might not be able to make it until April. What can I expect in the April timeframe? (Weather, prices, etc.)
I will truly appreciate your help with these questions and any other advise you can offer an aging first-time mongerer.
GPa69
1. Are prepaid cell phones available in Thailand?
YES.
2. Are there any karaoke bars that cater to farangs? (With BGs of course)
Yes.
3. I have read in other forums that a genuine thai massage by a trained professional is a must do experience. Can anyone recommend a parlor in Pattaya for this treatment? (Preferrably with some kind of HE)
When you get to Pattaya, WALK Around. You will see the Real massage places and you will see the MP where HE is available. Soi Honey great place to start.
4. How can you identify the different types of bars (Gogos, Beer Bars, BJ Bars, etc.) from the outside or from a quich look around the interior?
General Gogos are enclose, BB are open, BJ bars are closed.
5. Family and friends will want to see pictures of the wonderful time I had in LOS. Can anyone recommend some easy to reach tourist attractions in and around Pattaya?
Buddha Hill, Koh Larn, Pattaya Waterpark, Floating MArket, Beaches. List is endless in LOS.
Has anyone stayed at the Secrets hotel at Soi 14 and WS? It looks pretty good and reasonable from the website. Recommendations, advise?
Have not stayed.
6. I hope to go next month, but might not be able to make it until April. What can I expect in the April timeframe? (Weather, prices, etc.)
I am going in April for 30 day holiday. 3rd time in 8 months. April is Songkran month which is BIG BIG water Festival. If you don't want to get your hair wet. DON'T GO. YOU WIll get WET. Enjoy and if you go April PM me and we will share a beer or 2.
GPa69,
If you do intend to go in April, be prepared to get wet during the Songkran festival. I'd wrap any sensitive electronic devices in plastic bags if you're going to lug them around with you (cameras, phones, ect).
[quote=gpa69; 1251473]nevertheless, there are still a few areas that i am unclear on and i am hoping a few experienced members will help me out. since i will be spending most of my time in pattaya i decided to post my questions on this thread.
i will truly appreciate your help with these questions and any other advise you can offer an aging first-time mongerer.
gpa69[/quote]hi, here are my answers based on my experiences over the years in pattaya.
1. are prepaid cell phones available in thailand?
not sure but i've bought a thai sim pay as you go from the local 7-11 for 100 baht. it worked with no hassle in my mobile phone.
2. are there any karaoke bars that cater to farangs? (with bgs of course)
i've seen one on 2nd road, near the carlton pattaya hotel, opposite the alcatraz complex.
3. i have read in other forums that a genuine thai massage by a trained professional is a must do experience. can anyone recommend a parlor in pattaya for this treatment? (preferrably with some kind of he)
many massgae parlours will have girls that can offer a happy ending. they seem to be close to walking st.
4. how can you identify the different types of bars (gogos, beer bars, bj bars, etc.) from the outside or from a quich look around the interior?
beer bars are open air bars and are everywhere. gogo bars are all mainly in walking st, and have girls dancing inside. bj bars are at soi bukkao ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url])
5. family and friends will want to see pictures of the wonderful time i had in los. can anyone recommend some easy to reach tourist attractions in and around pattaya?
check the local tour guides. there is a trip to the zoo, and other things around there.
has anyone stayed at the secrets hotel at soi 14 and ws? it looks pretty good and reasonable from the website. recommendations, advise?
i stayed for 2 nights. highly recommended. nice rooms, good prices, and great location near the action, but still quiet in your room.
6. i hope to go next month, but might not be able to make it until april. what can i expect in the april timeframe? (weather, prices, etc.)
april will be hot as usual. the water festival songran is celebrated for about a week during april. i loved playing it. check it out on youtube. prices were about the same for me, but i had a longterm room booking.
[quote=butter69; 1251532]4. how can you identify the different types of bars (gogos, beer bars, bj bars, etc.) from the outside or from a quich look around the interior?
beer bars are open air bars and are everywhere. gogo bars are all mainly in walking st, and have girls dancing inside. [b]bj bars are at soi bukkao ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]) [/b][/quote]not only in soi buakaow.
also in soi post office the "pumpstation", near end of the street on left side, coming from beach road.
and my favorite on 3rd road, near soi bonkot is "the bliss lounge". they also have a website ([url]www.theblisslounge.com[/url])
[QUOTE=Butter69; 1251532]Hi, here are my answers based on my experiences over the years in Pattaya.
Has anyone stayed at the Secrets hotel at Soi 14 and WS? It looks pretty good and reasonable from the website. Recommendations, advise?
I stayed for 2 nights. Highly recommended. Nice rooms, good prices, and great location near the action, but still quiet in your room.
6. I hope to go next month, but might not be able to make it until April. What can I expect in the April timeframe? (Weather, prices, etc.)
April will be hot as usual. The water festival songran is celebrated for about a week during April. I loved playing it. Check it out on youtube. Prices were about the same for me, but I had a longterm room booking.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advise Butter. Secrets it is.
The songkran festival sounds like a blast. I hope my trip timing works out so I can be there for it. Does the water battle go on all night or does it taper off after dark? Do the girls still take care of business or are they having too much fun drenching customers and each other?
[QUOTE=GPa69; 1251757]Thanks for the advise Butter. Secrets it is.
The songkran festival sounds like a blast. I hope my trip timing works out so I can be there for it. Does the water battle go on all night or does it taper off after dark? Do the girls still take care of business or are they having too much fun drenching customers and each other?[/QUOTE]To GPa 69.
There are alot more people at Walking st area at night than during the day, after mid night the crowd get bigger heading to the disco for pick up alot of crazy people on drug and too much to drink you will be lucky drench with water not something else, don't go to Thailand during songkran if you don't want to get wet and dirty.
Fast Eddie 48