Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=*****man;1538263]The You're completely delusional if you believe Thai sex workers are sexually conservative little princesses who have never let a man anywhere near their arses.[/QUOTE]That is a fair statement, and this even includes young university hottie type part-timers, yup its being offered at times, even BB (which while crazy is true) My guess is these girls are curious about western things and experiment with their Thai boyfriends and apparently some like it and put it on their menu.

[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1538254]this clearly means that there is a taboo against such sex Thailand.[/QUOTE]Its innate to the species and its survival that in absolute terms young women (lets say 18 to 23 year old for this discussion) in fact have very high sex drives irregardless of (often pop culture hype) about it peaking 10 to 15 years later, and while having no procreation purpose apparently either find it kinky and/or sufficiently acceptable in some cases to use it as a draw to get repeat Farang business, with the prospect of future cash flows IMHO acting as a type of turnon for some. Its a buyers market especially for guys in Bangkok a lot of their time or living here, and these girls know it.

Human are not the only primates who engage in anal sex, orgies and other kinky shit. Primatologists observe this behavior in the wild, especially among the Bonobo chimps. Males chimps will even gang bang willing (eager) female chimps. Male chimps in captivity get into chimp porn, have their personal favorite female chimp porn stars, and prefer watching porn to bananas as a reward for performing various tasks. I'm not surprised young, liberated, non-pros in Bangkok are interested in trying anal. And some no doubt discover they like it.

I find anal sex to be quite a curiosity. As I mentioned in an earlier report, in general I think vaginal sex feels better than anal sex. At least when it is being performed on a woman with a tight young pussy, something these days I'm highly biased towards. Sometimes I have no interest in doing anal, even if the woman offers it. At least that is the case when the offer is by the lady nonchalantly asking if I want it. It's an entirely different matter when the lady makes it clear she really wants it. This could happen when I'm in the mood and say something polite like, "Hey honey, do you mind if I ream your ass?" If the lady replies with something sweet and demur like, "Hell yes big guy, give it to me deep and hard," then I immediately feel my cock get harder in anticipate. :D

More often in the course of foreplay I engage in a little ass play with my fingers and tongue, and an appropriate toy if one is handy. If the lady gets into it, as in my experience many will, I will see how far I can take it. I've had ladies who later tell me they were anal virgins say at the time they couldn't figure out exactly what I was doing. All they knew was it was different and felt good. Of course the anal connoisseurs know exactly what is going on and encourage me to escalate the play. It is these ladies who really make my blood rush.

As for the anal virgins, I like to make a remark like, "Hmm, you like that don't you." Usually, the reply will be a yes interjected between pants and moans. Then I suggest we take it to the next level. I'll assure her I won't push her farther than she's prepared to go. I don't think I've ever had a lady who I've gotten that far with say no. Then a little doggy with a finger up her ass is in order; more than one if she gets into it. If and when she's willing to take two or three fingers, without asking I'll just initiate anal penetration and tell her to start playing with her clit. If the lady experiences discomfort I stop immediately. Sometimes I'll let the lady relax and then try it again, often with success. I think at that point the lady trusts me and relaxes. Some ladies will even ask me to try again. The key is don't force it. Let it happen naturally. Some ladies may later tell me they are glad they tried it but it was not one of their peak sexual experiences. Others clearly really get into it and have one or more really intense orgasms before we're done. Often they'll tell me these feel different than what had been a typical orgasm for them. These ladies, if I see them a few more times, make it clear they want it again. :)

Twenty years ago I didn't run into many women who were receptive to any of this. Over time I've discovered more and more non-pros have or are interested in trying anal. In Bangkok I only do pros and semi-pros; but I've found semi-pros who like it and had at least a few pros who do not list anal on their menu offer it or have no objection when I take it; and then they clearly enjoy it. I think there are some sex workers who do not enjoy anal. I think there are some who do not particularly enjoy sex. I think most sex workers enjoy getting fucked and most enjoy at least an occasional fuck in the ass. In this respect they are like the non-pros, who don't like it on a daily basis but like it with some regularity.

I'm also curious why some women enjoy it so much. I understand it has to do with all the nerve ending around the anus; but what shocks me is there are women who achieve an orgasm just from anal. If you scour the porn videos you can even find women who squirt from anal with no other sexual stimulation. I can only explain this by concluding some women must have one hell of a powerful imagination.

While for me a prostate massage with a blow job or while fucking another woman produces a more intense orgasm, I don't enjoy having the probe penetrate my ass. I only enjoy it after the tip is in and the lady is rubbing my prostate; and then I need to have my dick in a mouth or a pussy or an ass before I really start to enjoy it. For this reason I prefer a prostate massage during a threesome.

There is no doubt some women really enjoy the challenge of taking something really big up their ass; and once it's in they really, really get into it. I've met at least of few of these ladies in Bangkok. There are more a-level ladies out there than we may realize.

[QUOTE=Daddy San; 1537958]Of those 5 which 'gave in', be it without much persuasion. 4 (four) made their rear entrance available on our second date with just a little coaxing and the last one, who is due in half an hour has already agreed beforehand! That is 4 out of 5 doing anal sex.

Now either there is something wrong with the anal sex statistics you have been quoting, or I must have had 5 'outliers' in a row.

Condoms must be becoming highly uncool in BKK.

Aside from the one above, who scorned me and therefore does not count in this context, all 5 'legit' MP ladies plus 3 'stars' from Tulip, Mango and Cherry, took some convincing and only then, grudgingly, would [b]use[/b] Condoms.

That is 8 out of 8 'ladies' I fucked in the past 5 weeks (2 of them multiple times) who wanted to go BB by default![/QUOTE]I think your statistics are a little unrepresentative. It is well known that Thai ladies of weak education (and even some educated but not smart ones) are often not requiring condoms in a dating type situation despite the risks. I find very few hookers are offering me bareback over many years, so they don't require any persuasion to use condoms at all. There is more risk catching something from non-hookers who fuck around than from hookers who are careful.

I don't think your anal willing girls is a representative sample either. You have to consider what types of girl are in this situation (and possibility of fluke). Clearly more adventurous types. I have known several Thais girls in a girlfriend type situation that are definitely not even considering anal even slightly. They are not sex bomb types either. For girls that are sexually adventurous, I find many girls will not offer anal because of size and duration of the typical sex. Others just believe its dirty. One girl I met thinks licking balls is dirty.

One other thing to consider. How many of you guys would be willing to try being fucked in the ass? Right, not many.

[QUOTE=Daddy San; 1537958]Sure, Tulip, Mango are a sure thing for PSE with rimming, anal etc, but you usually get seasoned pros, who have been doing this day in day out for years, months or weeks.

(I know there are exceptions, who even after 2 months on the job remain delightfully fresh).

What I find much more exciting is trawling seemingly legit MPs, off the beaten track, for women, whom I personally feel attracted to.

Out of 6 in the past 5 weeks, only one did not hop into bed with me in my hotel room, after the initial foot massage, followed by an oil massage in private at the shop.

Since the legit shops don't allow it, these ladies don't normally have sex with customers, they do mostly give HJs.

Not having boyfriends because of their job, they frequently go without sex for months! And when they do have sex with someone who treats them as a person and not as a hoe, they let you feel it!

Much more gratifying, than the meat markets at Tulip etc.

Of those 5 which 'gave in', be it without much persuasion. 4 (four) made their rear entrance available on our second date with just a little coaxing and the last one, who is due in half an hour has already agreed beforehand! That is 4 out of 5 doing anal sex.

Now either there is something wrong with the anal sex statistics you have been quoting, or I must have had 5 'outliers' in a row.

Another tidbit, referred to only obliquely on ISG:

Condoms must be becoming highly uncool in BKK.

Aside from the one above, who scorned me and therefore does not count in this context, all 5 'legit' MP ladies plus 3 'stars' from Tulip, Mango and Cherry, took some convincing and only then, grudgingly, would [b]use[/b] Condoms.

That is 8 out of 8 'ladies' I fucked in the past 5 weeks (2 of them multiple times) who wanted to go BB by default!

Maybe it's out of reverence for my age![/QUOTE]Excellent post with some good insights and creative ideas. In some sense your comments are within the realm of the more general semi pro market, one of the things that makes the Bangkok market so interesting, and this includes may part-timers including college girls and all sort of other types that just don't do offer paid FS everyday, but one that quick-visit typical sex tourists have less access to.

The numbers in any case are definitely far higher than 1%. As to another poster claiming " How many of you guys would be willing to try being fucked in the ass? "? Last I checked women don't have dicks to shove in, and its been this way for millions of years. So I am not sure what the point is. While there is no procreative purpose per se, while actually procreating or "practicing" the dick was around the same female body zones for eons, so there is arguably some history and track record in an evolutionary context for females getting a dick shoved in once in a while at least..

As for lack of condom use could be: 1. HIV perceived as being less fatal, probably not smart but that is the perception 2. an ongoing buyer's market.

As you said "and when they do have sex with someone who treats them as a person and not as a hoe, they let you feel it" In all situations that is always a net plus, but obviously more useful away from meat grinder venues.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1538689]One other thing to consider. How many of you guys would be willing to try being fucked in the ass? Right, not many.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Western787;1538804]The numbers in any case are definitely far higher than 1%. As to another poster claiming " How many of you guys would be willing to try being fucked in the ass? "? Last I checked women don't have dicks to shove in, and its been this way for millions of years. So I am not sure what the point is. While there is no procreative purpose per se, while actually procreating or "practicing" the dick was around the same female body zones for eons, so there is arguably some history and track record in an evolutionary context for females getting a dick shoved in once in a while at least.[/QUOTE]Anal sex has been practiced for a very long time in every culture. I bet it has been around for as long as ours species has been on the planet and was practiced by our specie's ancestors. As I mention in a previous post, other primate species perform anal sex. Some female chimps get really angry when a male chimp tries to stick it in her ass. Other females chimps act as though they like it. I doubt if very many ISG members like getting fucked in the ass, but ask that question on a forum for guys who prefer a katoey and you'll get a different response. Though a minority, some heterosexual men get into having a girl use a strap-on on them. They like the stimulation of the prostate. I've always wondered if these guys are really homosexuals. A guy I knew who taught sex courses at the university I once taught at claimed at least some were not. His statement no doubt was based on self report data, of which I am rather suspicious. ;)

Ok, after lots of off topics, non topics and chit chat let's get back to P4P with TG.

I probably will be back in Bangkok for a short stay at the end of this month. I'm looking for an overnight outcall with a girl from either Mango Massage or Cherry Massage. A girl who is isn't shy at all in bed, does have a fun attitude and likes to go out for a little bit of partying. Does someone have a recommendation for this kind of girl?

Any recommendation based upon own experience is appreciated

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1538061]Regular HJ masseuses all doing anal and all insisting on not using a condom! As a long time resident I can tell you unequivocally your experience is not the norm and I would be more than surprised to find another member with a similar story. I sense this is a wind up to get some attention.[/QUOTE]I can second Daddy San. I regularly go off the beaten track for fresh anal girls. In the past month I've fucked 10 girls who worked in regular massage shops or were friends of girls who worked in regular massage shops. Ages 18-32 and from all parts of Thailand. Only one even mentioned a condom and eight of them took it up the ass. As the saying goes,"Closed mouths don't get fed". I ask for anal and I get it. The onus of condom usage falls on both parties, if I wouldn't have had my own condoms and insisted on using them then there would have been a lot of bareback buttfucking going on.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1538410]I find anal sex to be quite a curiosity. There are more a-level ladies out there than we may realize.[/QUOTE]Well put and all absolutely true. You reminded me of wonderful Som, that in the bedroom and not even undressed yet, said quietly "you can fuck me what you want. You can fuck my mouth, my pussy, and my ass". I'm not sure if she knew what a blood rush that can cause to a men. I still whish I could have more of that.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1538815]Though a minority, some heterosexual men get into having a girl use a strap-on on them. They like the stimulation of the prostate. I've always wondered if these guys are really homosexuals. A guy I knew who taught sex courses at the university I once taught at claimed at least some were not.[/QUOTE]It used to be a regular practice at the Eden Club (and I haven't been for 5 years now) that the girls would offer to fuck you with a strap-on. I did let them try once but stopped pretty quick because it hurt. And many guys enjoy a prostate massage massage with a finger in the ass.

I really fail to see why enjoying a particular sexual stimulation should label you homosexual. To my mind there is a universe of difference between a guy and a girl having fun together, using whatever toys and skills they have to have fun, and two guys having sex. To think otherwise relegates sex just to a mechanical thing, which most of us know it's not. I guess the most mechanical situation would be having a blowjob through a glory hole. I guess I could do it, but if I then found out the mouth was male I would be pretty sick!

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1539143]It used to be a regular practice at the Eden Club (and I haven't been for 5 years now) that the girls would offer to fuck you with a strap-on. I did let them try once but stopped pretty quick because it hurt. And many guys enjoy a prostate massage massage with a finger in the ass.

I really fail to see why enjoying a particular sexual stimulation should label you homosexual. To my mind there is a universe of difference between a guy and a girl having fun together, using whatever toys and skills they have to have fun, and two guys having sex. To think otherwise relegates sex just to a mechanical thing, which most of us know it's not. I guess the most mechanical situation would be having a blowjob through a glory hole. I guess I could do it, but if I then found out the mouth was male I would be pretty sick![/QUOTE]I believe I posted some time ago about an ex-girlfriend who said as she let me fuck her ass I should let her do the same to me with a strap-on. Before doing the deed we watched a video she rented about a woman performing anal on her husband with a strap-on. I consented and tried it for a few minutes. I found it very unpleasant.

In my case I think my personal issue with the sexual orientation of guys who like to get butt fucked is seated in homophobia. Consciously, I am tolerant and have know gay men whom I considered my friends. At a less conscious level I admit to having deep seated prejudices. I am a product of the time and place I was raised. One of my fantasies is to participate in a gang bang during which I perform double penetration on a girl with another guy. Oral with anal or vaginal turns me on. The thought of sliding my dick in and out of pussy or ass while another guy's dick is sliding in and out of the other orifice is something I can't imagine doing. I may take some of my hangups to the grave.

Spent two weeks in Huai Khwang area. Went to Nataree 6 times and Alaina twice. The pursuit of young and fresh is expensive. I have to say that in all

The visits to Nataree I was blown out twice by my luck in finding a girl both cute and open to sexual exploration of the most basic kind. The rest of the

Times were quite ordinary, with perfunctory service, rushed and hardly adequate. Many people have written about this place, including me, and we all

Seem to agree, but here is an updated list of faults:

It's 2, 600 to geez. 10, 000 be for `virgins`.

The place is a stinking hole- it should be condemned and torn down. And I don't mean stinking metaphorically.

Some girls are cute and young, but the service is generally woeful. This is forgiveable if you are enjoying the vibe of compliant, sweet and generous girls, but disappointing if, once she gets her kit off, you realize that she's not quite what you bargained for. Plus some real lookers in the room will sulk, get

On their phones etcetc.

The worst is that you pay so much for about an hour of `service`. I've made it be more time when the vibe was good and settled for less when I just

Wanted to get out of there. However, given that you get 2 hours with a generally good massage and total professionalism with a 2, 300 be oily, it's just

Much better bang for the buck. If you waste 2, 600 be for one hour of indifferent and fumbling service at a soapy, the two don't even compare.

Alaina is like an upmarket hotel: it's almost new, it's huge and the rooms are fabulous. It's midway between MRT stops Huai Khwang and Thailand Cultural Centre. The first time I've forgotten, but tonight I had A50, a sweet Isaan girl with quite large real jubblies and a bit of experience. She gave BBBJ and

Pretended convincingly to be enjoying any position (no anal). It was good, but not hugely memorable for 2, 700b.

Alaina is apparently owned by the same Chinese mob that own Nataree. At the moment the only problem with Alaina is the the narrow selection. There

Were about 20 girls on a Wednesday, compared with 40 at Nataree. If they move everyone to Alaina and train all the girls to give better service for 90

Minutes, then it'll be a palace.

[QUOTE=Dan Key; 1540009]Spent two weeks in Huai Khwang area. Went to Nataree 6 times and Alaina twice. The pursuit of young and fresh is expensive. I have to say that in all

The visits to Nataree I was blown out twice by my luck in finding a girl both cute and open to sexual exploration of the most basic kind. The rest of the

Times were quite ordinary, with perfunctory service, rushed and hardly adequate. Many people have written about this place, including me, and we all

Seem to agree, but here is an updated list of faults:

It's 2, 600 to geez. 10, 000 be for `virgins`.

The place is a stinking hole- it should be condemned and torn down. And I don't mean stinking metaphorically.

Some girls are cute and young, but the service is generally woeful. This is forgiveable if you are enjoying the vibe of compliant, sweet and generous girls, but disappointing if, once she gets her kit off, you realize that she's not quite what you bargained for. Plus some real lookers in the room will sulk, get

On their phones etcetc.

The worst is that you pay so much for about an hour of `service`. I've made it be more time when the vibe was good and settled for less when I just

Wanted to get out of there. However, given that you get 2 hours with a generally good massage and total professionalism with a 2, 300 be oily, it's just

Much better bang for the buck. If you waste 2, 600 be for one hour of indifferent and fumbling service at a soapy, the two don't even compare.

Alaina is like an upmarket hotel: it's almost new, it's huge and the rooms are fabulous. It's midway between MRT stops Huai Khwang and Thailand Cultural Centre. The first time I've forgotten, but tonight I had A50, a sweet Isaan girl with quite large real jubblies and a bit of experience. She gave BBBJ and

Pretended convincingly to be enjoying any position (no anal). It was good, but not hugely memorable for 2, 700b.

Alaina is apparently owned by the same Chinese mob that own Nataree. At the moment the only problem with Alaina is the the narrow selection. There

Were about 20 girls on a Wednesday, compared with 40 at Nataree. If they move everyone to Alaina and train all the girls to give better service for 90

Minutes, then it'll be a palace.[/QUOTE]I agree entirely Dan. But there is something about Nataree that keeps me going back. Quite probably it the enjoyment of banging the puddin out of a soft skin lass who still has youth on her side. Apparently you didn't try Madame which is on the opposite end of the strip mall that Nataree is in, and just across the side street from the Emerald Hotel. I had a great experience there in December and will return next Wednesday for one more week. I will stay at the Le Concorde for the first time so access will be easy.

[QUOTE=Dan Key; 1540009]Alaina is apparently owned by the same Chinese mob that own Nataree. At the moment the only problem with Alaina is the the narrow selection. There

Were about 20 girls on a Wednesday, compared with 40 at Nataree. If they move everyone to Alaina and train all the girls to give better service for 90

Minutes, then it'll be a palace.[/QUOTE]The question has always been, how does Nataree manage to get all these young and (often quite) hot girls and also offer them at a reasonable price? Obviously the splits going to the dancers have to be better than normal. The building rent or mortgage is probably low enough to allow them to pass on the savings to the girls. However if you put them in Alaina (and its new building) the splits would have to change, so they would lose many of the girls. Now nearly all the soapies are currently operatiing below capacity, so in theory they could move many to Alaina, but it won't' work longer term when the Japanese return in large numbers.

Of course Alaina like many of the high end soapies many nights has live entertainment, and that cost gets passed on also