Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2422339]Are there no self respecting mongers in Cartagena? Seriously? 12 days without a post or even a word. If it was not such a bureaucratic splodge for me to get time off I would jump on a plane go down there myself and bang some chicas and then lie about overpaying just to get some old timers to take the time to scold me so this thread would look active.[/QUOTE]First it was a page of ATM talk then a page and a half of big ass talk. Things got derailed and I agree.

Does anyone know if Elektra got reopened? What is killing centro right now is the lack of venues. I'm concerned all the action eventually moves out of the tourist areas. I don't trust safety in Cartagena enough.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2423662]First it was a page of ATM talk then a page and a half of big ass talk. Things got derailed and I agree.

Does anyone know if Elektra got reopened? What is killing centro right now is the lack of venues. I'm concerned all the action eventually moves out of the tourist areas. I don't trust safety in Cartagena enough.[/QUOTE]I know I am guilty of joining in on the streaming conversations about ATMs and Big Asses, I apologize. Did you hear that there were plans for Elektra to reopen? I once met a fabulous chica that I had many re-encounters with over a period of few years at Elektra. We all know that most Colombianas will wait for you to approach them, but this fine redish hair with a few freckles chica was out on the dance floor by herself displaying her oh so sexy sexuality like she was in world all by herself and did not even think she noticed me staring at her the way a hungry junk yard dog stares at prime rib, the next thing I new she had backed her ass up and was rubbing up and down my thigh. That first time I paid her 150 k and she stayed all night and most of the next day. So after that I would call her on my next to last day after I had hit the buffet every other night and spend the rest of the time with her. She since got married to some guy she went into the real estate business with.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423635] Took one from the beach everyday for 200 mil.

They asked for 300 mil and I forked it over as I didn't feel like haggling over 50 mil. All the babes were fun and had no problem partying, drinking, dancing around our condo before sex. It was four of us in our condo and everyone brought a babe back to party every night. We are all in our 40's by the way.

We had 4 girls and each wanted 200 USD for all day on the boat with unlimited fucks, including one final hit once we arrived back at the condo after the boating was over. [/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the report, I am glad your crew had fun. I hope you do not take what I say next the wrong way. I am going to try to put this in perspective. I have been visiting Cartagena for a long time. When I started visiting Cartagena most people in the USA had never heard of the place, and it was rare to see another person who spoke English for the entire time I was there. It has always been a tourist place but it was a Colombian tourist place for Colombians. Since then, I do not have to say how much has changed. The fear of every monger who has history there is that too many naive gringos would go down to Colombia and take there USA economy sensibilities with them without any Colombian economy sensibility and ruin the whole thing for us. The average chica in Colombia pays for a decent apartment outside the tourist zone in an average neighborhood about the equivalent of about $150 a month, up to $250 in a upper income neighborhood. The average salary. Think nurses, teachers, and other educated professionals. Earn about $700, if you make $1000 a month in Colombia you are in the top 20% of income earners. Add all this to the fact that prostitution is legal in Colombia and that creates a huge supply (which lowers the price compared to places it is not legal) and then you might realize why you paid too much. Chicas that told you 300 K in LDV would work for 150 k, and easily go for that off the beach. Chicas that talk in "dollars" are speaking a foreign language and should be avoided like the plague. Chicas will do an all day thing for for 400 k.

I say again that I am glad you made your report and glad you got a taste of what I call paradise, it might be that if / when you start doing this on a regular basis that you realize the value of negotiating, maybe your loaded and just do not care about blowing money, but the point is that each time you pay 50% to 100% over market price it adds up on the total budget for your trip. That is the way long game mongers think. If I want to make three, four trips a year I need to keep my budget to a manageable level. Paying market price saves a couple of thousand dollars for someone that visits a few times a year. Yet the fear of a lot of mongers is still that eventually too many fat walleted gringos with no sense of Colombian economics are going to ruin the place by driving up prices for no good economical reason. When I find a chica I like I will hit her up for multiple sessions so that she makes good money from me, after the third time I have paid her rent and half her groceries for the month for the total of about 6 hours.

Apologies, I double posted and could not delete the post so I edited

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2423791]
Thank you very much for the report, I am glad your crew had fun. I hope you do not take what I say next the wrong way. I am going to try to put this in perspective. I have been visiting Cartagena for a long time. When I started visiting Cartagena most people in the USA had never heard of the place, and it was rare to see another person who spoke English for the entire time I was there. It has always been a tourist place but it was a Colombian tourist place for Colombians. Since then, I do not have to say how much has changed. The fear of every monger who has history there is that too many naive gringos would go down to Colombia and take there USA economy sensibilities with them without any Colombian economy sensibility and ruin the whole thing for us. The average chica in Colombia pays for a decent apartment outside the tourist zone in an average neighborhood about the equivalent of about $150 a month, up to $250 in a upper income neighborhood. The average salary. Think nurses, teachers, and other educated professionals. Earn about $700, if you make $1000 a month in Colombia you are in the top 20% of income earners. Add all this to the fact that prostitution is legal in Colombia and that creates a huge supply (which lowers the price compared to places it is not legal) and then you might realize why you paid too much. Chicas that told you 300 K in LDV would work for 150 k, and easily go for that off the beach. Chicas that talk in "dollars" are speaking a foreign language and should be avoided like the plague. Chicas will do an all day thing for for 400 k.
[/QUOTE]Most tourists have no idea what the prices are for anything. Many come thinking they should pay in US dollars (there's been a few posts here asking if they could). It's a waste of time posting real prices here because the average gringo who shows up for the first time doesn't care if its 200 k pesos or 150 k pesos. He just wants to get laid.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2423953]Most tourists have no idea what the prices are for anything. Many come thinking they should pay in US dollars (there's been a few posts here asking if they could). It's a waste of time posting real prices here because the average gringo who shows up for the first time doesn't care if its 200 k pesos or 150 k pesos. He just wants to get laid.[/QUOTE]Fellas,

Not an amateur here. Been doing this a while all over the world. Everyone has their thing. I met some babes who were willing to go for the prices you guys are mentioning. Problem for me is, they were not my type. The ones that I like quoted between 200-300 mil not USD. If I talk to 20 babes that I like and they all quote the same price even after some negotiating, then that's the market for what I am looking for. Am I really going to fly all the way to Colombia to trip off of 30 bucks? That's cheaper than a round of drinks back home. 75 bucks, to me, is a great price to slam a babe that I think is absolutely gorgeous. If guys like spending 40 bucks on some of the talent that I saw quoting that price, more power to them. I certainly didn't like that caliber of babe. I'm going to keep rolling the way I do an drop my little 250 or 300 mil pesos again and again. I had a great time and will continue to do so. Having fun cost. I'm not rich at all but I'm not going to let 20 or 30 bucks deter me from shagging a superstar. After all, that's what I am there for.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2423953]Most tourists have no idea what the prices are for anything. Many come thinking they should pay in US dollars (there's been a few posts here asking if they could). It's a waste of time posting real prices here because the average gringo who shows up for the first time doesn't care if its 200 k pesos or 150 k pesos. He just wants to get laid.[/QUOTE]You make a great point. Sad but true.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423964]Fellas,

75 bucks, to me, is a great price to slam a babe that I think is absolutely gorgeous. If guys like spending 40 bucks on some of the talent that I saw quoting that price, more power to them. I certainly didn't like that caliber of babe. I'm going to keep rolling the way I do an drop my little 250 or 300 mil pesos again and again.[/QUOTE]YippieKayay your point has been proved. Sad but true!

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423964]Fellas,

Not an amateur here. Been doing this a while all over the world. Everyone has their thing. I met some babes who were willing to go for the prices you guys are mentioning. Problem for me is, they were not my type. The ones that I like quoted between 200-300 mil not USD. If I talk to 20 babes that I like and they all quote the same price even after some negotiating, then that's the market for what I am looking for. Am I really going to fly all the way to Colombia to trip off of 30 bucks? That's cheaper than a round of drinks back home. 75 bucks, to me, is a great price to slam a babe that I think is absolutely gorgeous. If guys like spending 40 bucks on some of the talent that I saw quoting that price, more power to them. I certainly didn't like that caliber of babe. I'm going to keep rolling the way I do an drop my little 250 or 300 mil pesos again and again. I had a great time and will continue to do so. Having fun cost. I'm not rich at all but I'm not going to let 20 or 30 bucks deter me from shagging a superstar. After all, that's what I am there for.[/QUOTE]I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm going to go against my own advice and repeat this for readers:

The locals pay 150 k for short time in the tourist areas in Cartagena. I've seen Colombian men who took a girl all night for that. Includes drinks and dancing first. Less than that for in-calls (sometimes as low as 60 k) if you go into the city. The reason the chicas in playa hollywood start at 200 k+ with you is they have to give a 50 k commission to the tout who is introducing them. In Tony's case that 50 k tends to go to the slot machines in Casino Rio in case you're wondering who you are really paying.

Your problem is that you ask for the price instead of offering it. If all you want is covered sex then all you need to do is:

* Introduce yourself.

* Ask her for her name and number and get her to put in your phone. They will all do this happily.

* Make some small talk.

* Offer 200 k.

* If she says no tell her you'll be in touch and send her a message in whatsapp so she remembers you.

* Guaranteed she will respond the same day for 200 k. Sometimes within minutes. Sometimes that evening.

Rinse and repeat. I've completely stopped "negotiating" because you don't need to at all. The only exception is if you're looking for a specific kink like anal etc.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2424025]I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm going to go against my own advice and repeat this for readers:

The locals pay 150 k for short time in the tourist areas in Cartagena. I've seen Colombian men who took a girl all night for that. Includes drinks and dancing first. Less than that for in-calls (sometimes as low as 60 k) if you go into the city. The reason the chicas in playa hollywood start at 200 k+ with you is they have to give a 50 k commission to the tout who is introducing them. In Tony's case that 50 k tends to go to the slot machines in Casino Rio in case you're wondering who you are really paying.

Your problem is that you ask for the price instead of offering it. If all you want is covered sex then all you need to do is:[/QUOTE]Yip, 200 mil pesos is 58 bucks! I was out last night with the fellas, I bought a round of drinks for 6 guys, 3 of them I had just met. The bill was 65 dollars and I ended up buying 2 more rounds. I understand exactly what you are saying for sure. However, I will not be talking to 20 different babes to find one for 30 bucks. More power to those who roll that way and I don't judge any man for how he does his thing with the ladies. Some guys think 200 USD is a good price! Not me, but if a guys sees his version of Beyonce and wants to nail it for 200 Usd, have at it. I won't be paying that much. As for the beach, we didn't use any touts, the babes were all laying out in the sun and we just called them over. It was a great time on the beach. We did get took on the beer prices the first day but once we starting paying as we went for beers, that was even fine. Got to spend your money on something Yip! The babes who were quoting 100 mil or 150 mil, I would never hit those babes. Were not my type at all.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423964]Fellas,

Not an amateur here. Been doing this a while all over the world. Everyone has their thing. I met some babes who were willing to go for the prices you guys are mentioning. Problem for me is, they were not my type. The ones that I like quoted between 200-300 mil not USD. If I talk to 20 babes that I like and they all quote the same price even after some negotiating, then that's the market for what I am looking for. Am I really going to fly all the way to Colombia to trip off of 30 bucks? That's cheaper than a round of drinks back home. 75 bucks, to me, is a great price to slam a babe that I think is absolutely gorgeous. If guys like spending 40 bucks on some of the talent that I saw quoting that price, more power to them. I certainly didn't like that caliber of babe. I'm going to keep rolling the way I do an drop my little 250 or 300 mil pesos again and again. I had a great time and will continue to do so. Having fun cost. I'm not rich at all but I'm not going to let 20 or 30 bucks deter me from shagging a superstar. After all, that's what I am there for.[/QUOTE]I'm with you Game Time. I would rather pay a little more for top quality and better service. We are not talking about a lot of money here. You get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423635]Fresh back from 5 days in Cartagena. I love this place. Stayed in an Air Bnb in Bocagrande. No issues bringing babes to the condo at all. Building was sweet and room was on the 36th Floor. Hit Hollywood beach during the day. At first glance, it looked totally dead. We walked closer to the water and there was at least 25 babes in bikinis hanging out. We parked it, drunk beers and mingled with the ladies. This was our routine during the day pretty much every day. Took one from the beach everyday for 200 mil. Spent happy hour in the condo with girls we met at La Dulce Vita or Space the night before. Some real stunners in these two clubs. The girls were a lot of fun. We would drink on the balcony listening to music and partying for a good while before doing the deed. Happy hour prices were 200 mil also. We then hit the clubs about 10:30 as they get really packed and you can barely move. We would get the numbers of hot chicks to line up for day time action the next day before selecting a babe for the night. Took one from Ducle Vita or Space every night. They asked for 300 mil and I forked it over as I didn't feel like haggling over 50 mil. All the babes were fun and had no problem partying, drinking, dancing around our condo before sex. It was four of us in our condo and everyone brought a babe back to party every night. We are all in our 40's by the way.

A few notes. I had no issues getting BBJ. The ones who said they didn't do it, I just moved on to the next that did. I did not like the talent out in the square. Some cuties but the real talent was in Space or Dulce Vita. Taxi drivers kept trying to get us to go to Pleyclub..[/QUOTE]Hello Game Time,

Great report, appreciate taking time and writing detailed, useful trip report.

I will be visiting Cartagena next week and staying in one of the Bocagrande apartments. Not new to Colombia but this is my first trip to Cartagena.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2424030]Yip, 200 mil pesos is 58 bucks! I was out last night with the fellas, I bought a round of drinks for 6 guys, 3 of them I had just met. The bill was 65 dollars and I ended up buying 2 more rounds. I understand exactly what you are saying for sure. However, I will not be talking to 20 different babes to find one for 30 bucks. More power to those who roll that way and I don't judge any man for how he does his thing with the ladies. Some guys think 200 USD is a good price! Not me, but if a guys sees his version of Beyonce and wants to nail it for 200 Usd, have at it. I won't be paying that much. As for the beach, we didn't use any touts, the babes were all laying out in the sun and we just called them over. It was a great time on the beach. We did get took on the beer prices the first day but once we starting paying as we went for beers, that was even fine. Got to spend your money on something Yip! The babes who were quoting 100 mil or 150 mil, I would never hit those babes. Were not my type at all.[/QUOTE]It was a good report. I think the criticism stems from the girls wanting $200 US to spend the day on the boat partying. I've never tried, it's not my thing, but I believe I can find 3 or 4 women who will be happy to split $200 for the same thing. All women I'd happily pay 200 k for a session.

As I'm sure you're aware, always shoot high. Never start at your lowest price. The girls know this too. When a girl in Medellin tells me "300", I respond with "siempre pago 200 (or 150). " That's 200 k, not dollars. I always pay (whatever price I'm willing to pay). Almost every time the immediate response is "OK. " Some will then want to add taxi fare, and I'll add time. If we can't agree, I'll suggest maybe another day and move on. Very few will let you walk away.

Unless the girl throws out a ridiculous price, I don't tell her "no. " I just tell her what I pay. If I absolutely can't resist her, I can still take her price if she's not budging and I can get some concessions: "Dale, si incluye chupa sin condom why dos polvos. " Okay, if it includes BBBJ and 2 cums.

I'm not going to waste more than a few seconds haggling on price. I pay a fair rate and make minimal demands. I recognize my bargaining position is much stronger. She doesn't have 20 guys waiting for a chance to pay her. She's one of 20 girls waiting for me to call them over. Her chance of finding another customer in the next hour is slim. My chance of finding another girl is 99.99%.

Throughout all this I keep smiling and keep it light.

The bottom line is, you enjoyed your trip. Whether someone thinks you did it wrong isn't a big deal. Look at the criticism and learn. I'm confident next time you can have just as much fun and spend less having it.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423635]Fresh back from 5 days in Cartagena. I love this place. Stayed in an Air Bnb in Bocagrande. No issues bringing babes to the condo at all. Building was sweet and room was on the 36th Floor. Hit Hollywood beach during the day. At first glance, it looked totally dead. We walked closer to the water and there was at least 25 babes in bikinis hanging out. We parked it, drunk beers and mingled with the ladies. This was our routine during the day pretty much every day. Took one from the beach everyday for 200 mil. Spent happy hour in the condo with girls we met at La Dulce Vita or Space the night before. Some real stunners in these two clubs. The girls were a lot of fun. We would drink on the balcony listening to music and partying for a good while before doing the deed. Happy hour prices were 200 mil also. We then hit the clubs about 10:30 as they get really packed and you can barely move. We would get the numbers of hot chicks to line up for day time action the next day before selecting a babe for the night. Took one from Ducle Vita or Space every night. They asked for 300 mil and I forked it over as I didn't feel like haggling over 50 mil. All the babes were fun and had no problem partying, drinking, dancing around our condo before sex. It was four of us in our condo and everyone brought a babe back to party every night. We are all in our 40's by the way.

A few notes..[/QUOTE]Great report which Airbnb apartment in Bocagrande you stayed.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2424280]Unless the girl throws out a ridiculous price, I don't tell her "no. " I just tell her what I pay...….
I'm not going to waste more than a few seconds haggling on price. I pay a fair rate and make minimal demands. I recognize my bargaining position is much stronger. She doesn't have 20 guys waiting for a chance to pay her. She's one of 20 girls waiting for me to call them over. Her chance of finding another customer in the next hour is slim. My chance of finding another girl is 99.99%.[/QUOTE]So True.

I'd say her chance of finding a guy in the next hour or even all night can be slim given all the talent that can be present at the time. I have seen many good looking girls go without a guy. Whereas a guy can find another girl in less than a hour if he so chooses do to.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2425289]So True.

I'd say her chance of finding a guy in the next hour or even all night can be slim given all the talent that can be present at the time. I have seen many good looking girls go without a guy. Whereas a guy can find another girl in less than a hour if he so chooses do to.[/QUOTE]This is how to negotiate with a latin hooker:

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