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[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2006550]And can SOMEBODY please point me in the right direction? Over the last year I have tried several Chinese and Thai massage places over Seoul, each time striking out. The only place I got FS was MVP-VIP in Gangnam. But that was without even a hint at a real massage.

HELP![/QUOTE]I use the outcall Thai massage services. You call the number and the operator gets your address. About 30 minutes later a Thai woman shows up with a thick floor mattress, sheets and oil. She is accompanied by a Korean male driver who takes your money and leaves. She'll tell you to strip naked and lay down. She is Thai massage trained and the massage is very good. When done she will pack up, call the driver and say goodbye.

Average Rates.

Thai massage 90 min = 70,000.

Thai massage 120 min = 80,000.

Aroma (oil) massage 90 min= 80,000.

Aroma massage 120 min = 100,000.

Special Combo 60 min Thai 60 min aroma = 90,000.

I go for the special combo. When the driver takes the 90 k and leaves, I give 10 k to the girl and ask for a 120 min aroma massage. They usually laugh, pocket the 10,000 and say "OK!

The massage is very professional and quite good. I usually play some music during the session and they really appreciate it. Massaging someone for 2 hours in dead silence can get quite boring.

Towards the end of the session, negotiations may take place. It's complicated so I'll try my best.

Happy endings are not standard. It depends on the girl. If she wants to offer it, she can but she is no way obligated to do so. She can also charge anything she wants. "Additional services" are completely at her discretion. This is the average: HJ = 20,000 BBBJ = 50,000 Sex = 100,000.

Some girls will only offer a HJ some will not have sex while others will have sex but not offer a BJ. If a girl offers sex, she will most likely have her own condoms. It's totally a roll of the dice but the girls that I have talked to say that nearly 100% will do a HJ. I've been using incall Thai massages for over 5 years and about 2/3 of the girls will have sex for the 100,000. YMWV as some of the girls that I've tried are like dead fish while some are very active and even kinky partners.

The biggest risk is that you have absolutely no idea what these girls will look like. In most pay-for-play establishments, you can trust that the girls will have a certain level of attractiveness. With these Thai massage incall services it's not the case as they are selected based on their massage certifications. On the phone, you can ask for a pretty girl but there is never a guarantee. Do not mention any kind of sex or ask about happy endings on the phone. These businesses want to stay well out of the police's gaze and any additional services should remain between you and her.

Good news is that if you enjoy yourself, you can ask for her name. If you choose to, you can request her again. However, the majority of these girls are here on 3 month tourist Visas and are here to make some fast cash and go home. There are a few with working visas but they are rare. About every 90 days, I will get a text message from the business letting me know when they get a fresh wave of girls in.

Also, businesses will send me a text message with discounted specials and what not. I usually rotate between 3 companies. I have their phone numbers but I think posting numbers is not allowed so I advise you to try doing an internet search for "Llama Massage", "Best Thai" and "Top Thai. " I do not think they have web advertisements but you can try. I found out about them because whenever someone uses their service the driver puts a flyer on the doors of all the other apartments in the building. Over the years, I have collected about a dozen. They operate in the Gangnam area and I do not know how far outside of Gangnam they will travel.

I've talked about a place or two in the past in this forum.

I currently go to two Thai places in Gangnam that give a legitimately good massages, and, depending on the girl, have happy endings either oral or hand (mostly oral). Both of them have have a hodge podge of different quality Thai ladies, but a few of the really hot ones do it for an extra 50,000 won. The massages themselves are also pretty cheap (40,000 for an hour of aroma).

I am hesitant to give out the names of these places because I feel I kind of earned knowing about them. Through multiple sessions, I summoned up the courage to flash a 50 k Won note and request for the happy ending. Sometimes I was denied, but sometimes I was rewarded. It is how I figured out who my regular girls would be (got their names), and then just book appointments at either place depending on who is working that day. One of them has even done house calls to my place, which has ended up in FS a few times, cheaper than hooker hill.

My advice to those people who are looking for this sort of thing: if you have the balls to look failure in the face multiple times, you will build a good list of regular masseuses who will do it. The Thai girl who say "no" don't go and complain to the manager or anything, they usually just politely say they don't offer it. However, since it a big part of their homeland culture, they also don't judge you overly much. As far as I can tell.

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2006709]I use the outcall Thai massage services. You call the number and the operator gets your address. About 30 minutes later a Thai woman shows up with a thick floor mattress, sheets and oil. She is accompanied by a Korean male driver who takes your money and leaves. She'll tell you to strip naked and lay down. She is Thai massage trained and the massage is very good. When done she will pack up, call the driver and say goodbye.

Average Rates.

Thai massage 90 min = 70,000.

Thai massage 120 min = 80,000.

Aroma (oil) massage 90 min= 80,000.

Aroma massage 120 min = 100,000.

Special Combo 60 min Thai 60 min aroma = 90,000.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the details, shimshimhaeyo. I looked on Google for the names you gave, in English and in Korean, but couldn't turn up any results. Maybe I am doing it wrong. If you are willing to send me some details by I'm, thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2007672]Thanks for the details, shimshimhaeyo. I looked on Google for the names you gave, in English and in Korean, but couldn't turn up any results. Maybe I am doing it wrong. If you are willing to send me some details by I'm, thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]I would gladly give you the phone numbers that I have but I do not have I'm capabilities.

I would post the phone numbers on the forum but I think that is not allowed. If I am able to post the numbers here, I will do so in a flash.

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Was this at night with only 5 booths operating? I love 588 and was last there Seoul Mar 2016. I might be in Seoul next week. One last time before it's gone!

Cleaning up for the 2018 Pyongchang Olympics?

[QUOTE=Phloppy;2001713]Hey all,

It looks like the heady days of cheap and easy sex is gone. Hooker Hill has been in steady decline for years. 588 is all but gone. I counted 5 booths that were active (ie not demolished or slated for demolish.) Even the Lotte Department Store is either being demolished or undergoing a major renovation. The whole area seems to be undergoing a major uplift.

Anyways. Of the three that had girls in when I went, two offered. One was 140,000 won and the other the normal price. The more expensive was what I would call your typical pretty agashi, but I wasn't going to pay that.

Anyways, went the cheap route, got ok sevice, but got what I wanted.[/QUOTE]

OMG it's true. Here is video and an article about it.

[URL]http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2017/02/251_224601.html[/URL]

And a video of the demolition. It's gone!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC4F1VBowdE[/URL]

Is Yeungdengpo still alive? I have a flight there next weekend, but if both Yeongdeungpo and Cheongho are dead, I'm canceling.

I've been two 588 2 X in the recent years and loved it.

[QUOTE=Phloppy;2001713]Hey all,

It looks like the heady days of cheap and easy sex is gone. Hooker Hill has been in steady decline for years. 588 is all but gone. I counted 5 booths that were active (ie not demolished or slated for demolish.) Even the Lotte Department Store is either being demolished or undergoing a major renovation. The whole area seems to be undergoing a major uplift.

Anyways. Of the three that had girls in when I went, two offered. One was 140,000 won and the other the normal price. The more expensive was what I would call your typical pretty agashi, but I wasn't going to pay that.

Anyways, went the cheap route, got ok sevice, but got what I wanted.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImTedKoppel;2008281]OMG it's true. Here is video and an article about it.

[URL]http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2017/02/251_224601.html[/URL]

And a video of the demolition. It's gone!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC4F1VBowdE[/URL]

Is Yeungdengpo still alive? I have a flight there next weekend, but if both Yeongdeungpo and Cheongho are dead, I'm canceling.

I've been two 588 2 X in the recent years and loved it.[/QUOTE]Cheongho isn't dead, but it's very much not foreigner friendly. Only 1 shop would let me in and only 1 girl was barely interested in servicing me. I wouldn't book a flight just to visit the place.

Being Asian (not Korean though), I've never been refused at 588 so I would expect about the same at Cheonho. Once at 588 I was asked where I was from but only after I asked the girl as she didn't seem Korean to me.

I've never been to Cheonho as I usually stay in Myeongdong, thus making the journey far, but this time I will stay South of river since 588 is no more. I have a ticket bought already if I cancel I'll just lose the change fee which doesn't bother me much.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2008524]Cheongho isn't dead, but it's very much not foreigner friendly. Only 1 shop would let me in and only 1 girl was barely interested in servicing me. I wouldn't book a flight just to visit the place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seoulmate;5434]I have not seen many reviews or even mention
of the Yonsan Red LIght district on this forum. [/QUOTE]It's because Yongsan RLD has been demolished to make way for high rise apartments.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2006550]And can SOMEBODY please point me in the right direction? Over the last year I have tried several Chinese and Thai massage places over Seoul, each time striking out. The only place I got FS was MVP-VIP in Gangnam. But that was without even a hint at a real massage.

HELP![/QUOTE]JMU,

You're right about that, I went to MVP-VIP yesterday early evening and it was about a 5 minute (maybe less) massage; however, that's just what I like. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a good massage when that's all I want, but when it's just something to do until we get to a HJ, BJ or more, then I find them boring. It's like eating dinner and I'm just thinking about dessert the whole time. LOL. Anyway, this was my first time there and was greeted with a smile from the guy at the front counter, which nice to see, because as foreigner, that's not always the case (I'm a WM). Led to a room with a shower and was told to take a shower and hit buzzer when ready. When I finished the shower, I hit the buzzer and within a couple of minutes in she comes (another plus, hate waiting). She as tall and immediately striped down and took a shower. She had a beautiful rack (may be+ see- but I'm not good at cup sizes). She had a tattoo that nearly covered her entire back (she was Chinese). Her English was not to good and her Korean came with a strong accent. I speak just enough Korean to get by. She did a little massage while she was totally nude and I could feel her Bush rubbing on my legs and back from time to time (very hot). She was attractive with a nice body and attitude. Flipped over and she start play with me a talking about the size (don't think I'm big, but I had the same problem a few times in Manila last week). She does a good BBBJ for a few minutes and put the cover on, she tries to get on top, but she was tight, she added more lube and I could only get it in about half way. She was a real trooper, she was not complaining and she kept trying she seemed a little embarrassed and giggled a little. I told her to stop and said a BBBJ would be fine, she apologized and tried to get on top again, I think she was worried that I would complain to the boss. None the less, she did finish me off with a nice BBBJ and with a fare of attention to the sack. I hit the shower again, dressed and was on my way. I will go back soon because you never now how long these places will be open. I was a little reluctant to post about it because someone here might ruin it for the rest of us.

Price 120 K.

Looks: 8.

Attitude: 10.

Service: That's a hard one, she did her best I'll give her a 7 (her good attitude bumped this score up a point or two).

Please don't go to these places and make an ass out of yourself so they will continue to service foreigners.

Later,

LM.

I am planning my first trip to Seoul for around September and to enjoy what the place has to offer. However, like I said it will be my first trip to Seoul and the only knowledge I have is reading this forum. However I am having a few questions and looking for an answer.

So far I know there is 'anma', which seems interesting. Which area would be the best if I want to visit 'anma' that is foreigner friendly with pretty Korean girls?

What I have come to understand is that the 4 RLD in Seoul is completely demolished by the time I arrive. Is this true?

Officetel is challenging without Korean language ability, do they speak a little bit of English or nothing at all?

I have also seen advertisement for Korean boutique Bar (E. G. Petit Seoul), 2 hours including pick-up service and such. Anyone has experience and is it worth the price?

Thanks in advance for answering my questions (and hopefully giving me good ideas where to go and what to do).

Rookie.

[QUOTE=Rookie88;2009562]What I have come to understand is that the 4 RLD in Seoul is completely demolished by the time I arrive. Is this true?[/QUOTE]I believe Miari and Cheonho are still around. I myself will be in Seoul this summer, so I plan to visit both places again. I don't know the status of Yeongdeungpo (but I've never been there anyways).

[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;2007245]I've talked about a place or two in the past in this forum.

I currently go to two Thai places in Gangnam that give a legitimately good massages, and, depending on the girl, have happy endings either oral or hand (mostly oral). Both of them have have a hodge podge of different quality Thai ladies, but a few of the really hot ones do it for an extra 50,000 won. The massages themselves are also pretty cheap (40,000 for an hour of aroma).

I am hesitant to give out the names of these places because I feel I kind of earned knowing about them. Through multiple sessions, I summoned up the courage to flash a 50 k Won note and request for the happy ending. Sometimes I was denied, but sometimes I was rewarded. It is how I figured out who my regular girls would be (got their names), and then just book appointments at either place depending on who is working that day. One of them has even done house calls to my place, which has ended up in FS a few times, cheaper than hooker hill.

My advice to those people who are looking for this sort of thing: if you have the balls to look failure in the face multiple times, you will build a good list of regular masseuses who will do it. The Thai girl who say "no" don't go and complain to the manager or anything, they usually just politely say they don't offer it. However, since it a big part of their homeland culture, they also don't judge you overly much. As far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]I agree with the advice, don't be afraid to be rejected. If you do get rejected try another girl next time. Since being here in Korea for almost 2 years now I've ventured out and found some regular places I would have never thought I get FS. I went to one few times in the Mapo area and one of the masseuse was going to do me for free after few visits of getting good BJ's. I've found 3 places that I have gotten FS at on a regular. Most of the spots I got to they actually give a legit massage and when there's about 15-20 mins left that's when I arrange with my regular that I'm ready for the FS.

I have found theses places by just straight asking for it. Most of the masseuse I've had at theses Thai places have been good 8's. Prices are 90,000 for 90 mins xtra services run from 30 k HJ and 50 k BJ and FS around 70-100 k FS. Most of these places are right out in the open. That's where I have found the best ones not in some back alley spot. Most girls do rotate out every 3 months which blows when you find one you like and know what you're going to get.

[QUOTE=Rookie88;2009562]So far I know there is 'anma', which seems interesting. Which area would be the best if I want to visit 'anma' that is foreigner friendly with pretty Korean girls?

What I have come to understand is that the 4 RLD in Seoul is completely demolished by the time I arrive. Is this true?

Rookie.[/QUOTE]Anma. Well that is fine if you want to pay premium price for largely mechanical service. For me, it is not a comfortable environment.

As for the RLDs. Miari is still alive and well. Probably the best place, and has been for a long time. Wide selection, and depending on what you want, lots of variety. It does help to speak Korean, but it isn't necessary. Will run you less than an Anma, and most of them give good service.

And of course, Hooker Hill in Itaewon is alive and well. It is a dirtier environment, as there are less locations and typically service more people on average. But still, their English ability is top notch, and they are well adept at servicing foreigners.

I've never been a fan of Cheonho, but to each their own. It is still running.

Other services. Officetels, Kiss Bangs, so forth. Unless you speak Korean, you may end up wasting a lot of time for no pay off.

[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;2010244]Anma. Well that is fine if you want to pay premium price for largely mechanical service. For me, it is not a comfortable environment.

As for the RLDs. Miari is still alive and well. Probably the best place, and has been for a long time. Wide selection, and depending on what you want, lots of variety. It does help to speak Korean, but it isn't necessary. Will run you less than an Anma, and most of them give good service.

And of course, Hooker Hill in Itaewon is alive and well. It is a dirtier environment, as there are less locations and typically service more people on average. But still, their English ability is top notch, and they are well adept at servicing foreigners.

I've never been a fan of Cheonho, but to each their own. It is still running.

Other services. Officetels, Kiss Bangs, so forth. Unless you speak Korean, you may end up wasting a lot of time for no pay off.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=YeongIl;2010219]I believe Miari and Cheonho are still around. I myself will be in Seoul this summer, so I plan to visit both places again. I don't know the status of Yeongdeungpo (but I've never been there anyways).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback.

Rookie.