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Trolls who add nothing to the forum should start their own thread if all they do is repeat the same BS each time. The Shanghai thread exists to share information on finding women to have sex with. If you don't like China or Shanghai in particular stay away and look elsewhere for someone to hold your hand. This crybaby attitude is getting tedious.
Hello gentlemen,
I travel to Shanghai several times a month.
I have found that there are a good many WG's (mostly Vietnam, Malaysian and a few Afro & Russians) at either a place called Judy's near Temple Station or The Manhattan Bar. There are also a few that hangout out a sports bar called Malone's, located nearby, between Judy's and Manhattan.
The ladies go from skinny to fat and pretty to ugly, just depends on what's happening. I think many change out on a monthly basis due to visa's.
The Manhattan has loud music, no cover charge, and lots and lots of girls. 4-5 to 1 easily.
Judy' s has less girls, little more upscale than Manhattan.
The heart of the hunting envelope is between 10 pm and 3 am.
All WG's bargain for services. Start high but All will come down in price. Easy to get ST or LT service. Prices vary. You be the judge. Estimated Damages US 80-200.
Another means to meet many many girls in China is to download the program WeChat. Once you have it up and running, you will have girls writing you quiet frequently. Let's Make A Deal! Right from your hotel or across from you in the bar. The WeChat program will give you approximate distances of people near you.
Watch out, WeChat girls, some will ask you to pay up front, start the mission, then leave You high and Dry. I have No advice on how to prepare or defend for this situation.
There seems always be a few walkers or representatives outside in the shadows of the big hotels in the evenings.
Merry Christmas!
Happy Hunting!
Rainman
[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1818205]Trolls who add nothing to the forum should start their own thread if all they do is repeat the same BS each time. The Shanghai thread exists to share information on finding women to have sex with. If you don't like China or Shanghai in particular stay away and look elsewhere for someone to hold your hand. This crybaby attitude is getting tedious.[/QUOTE]And who is being the crybaby? Do you own a mirror?
[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1817822]Hi gabbar. Unfortunately, There are no safe places in Shanghai. The whole place is a scam!
Be very careful my friend.[/QUOTE]If you were repeatedly scammed in Shanghai it might be because of your own stupidity. Ever thought about that?
Lev.
Don't start that all over again, haha.
Gregory.
[QUOTE=Levitian;1818328]If you were repeatedly scammed in Shanghai it might be because of your own stupidity. Ever thought about that?
Lev.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Levitian;1818328]If you were repeatedly scammed in Shanghai it might be because of your own stupidity. Ever thought about that?
Lev.[/QUOTE]I am solely responding to other board members questions based on my experiences in the biggest scam city in the world. You don't see me putting down other board members do you? In fact have you EVER seen me put anyone down on this board? With the exception of self defense the answer is NO so quit putting me down. It's obvious you don't agree with me but be civil about it for once.
Amongst all of your whining, you have not contributed an iota of useful information to this forum. You are just burning up bandwidth and everyone's energy!
[QUOTE=RedRider;1818422]Amongst all of your whining, you have not contributed an iota of useful information to this forum. You are just burning up bandwidth and everyone's energy![/QUOTE]I beg to differ. When someone who hasn't been to SCAMHAI asks questions, I am providing them with information to stay safe. Again, you may not like it but some senior members 'cop an attitude' and tell the person to RTFF. I on the other hand am providing info I wish I was given before my first trip. Look at it this way. You can tell people how wonderful and safe SCAMHAI is and I will be provide a different pov. My pov is from first hand experience. Yours may be as well. We all have different experiences and I wish to share mine. Good Day!
[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1818139]. SCAMHAI. I'm pretty street smart......
Good luck!![/QUOTE]I find it amusing that you find yourself so street smart and you are the one that got scammed. I really don't consider myself streetsmart.
I have made more than 30 trips to shanghai, I've been approached by dozens of touts (before I even read this forum) walked the streets of Shanghai at all times of the evening.
I have also been to Judy's Manhattan's MPs, and used SNG's services.
Did I get overcharged once or twice at Manattans or not have the girl deliver as well as I expected out of some 60-70 experiences? Sure. Do I feel I ever got scammed?? No not really.
Overall the experiences have been good. Have I paid $200 for an evening with a beautiful girl? Yes and without regret.
I have also paid $80 to 2 different girls (separately) . They were a 7 or 7.5 and gave great FS in my hotel on 5 separate occasions in 2014/2015. I also had a couple massage girls agree to a 500RMB/$80 number but I didn't follow up as I had other targets on my mind. (I truly regret missing those opportunities!).
I am over 50, Bald, not thin but not fat but I have done just well in Shanghai. if I were a great football player like you stacked and as rich as you say, I can only imagine how much better I could have done. You however with all that going and streetsmarts got scammed,,,,,go figure.
I honestly think If anyone needs to look in the mirror it should be you H1. I don't think you are as (street or otherwise) smart as you give yourself credit. I think you know this and that is why you Bash Shanghai. You can't believe you were so stupid.
Just my honest opinion. Suck it up H1. Learn from your mistakes and where the fault really lies.
Sam.
[QUOTE=SamCan;1818502]I find it amusing that you find yourself so street smart and you are the one that got scammed. I really don't consider myself streetsmart.
I have made more than 30 trips to shanghai, I've been approached by dozens of touts (before I even read this forum) walked the streets of Shanghai at all times of the evening.
I have also been to Judy's Manhattan's MPs, and used SNG's services.
Did I get overcharged once or twice at Manattans or not have the girl deliver as well as I expected out of some 60-70 experiences? Sure. Do I feel I ever got scammed?? No not really.
Overall the experiences have been good. Have I paid $200 for an evening with a beautiful girl? Yes and without regret.
I have also paid $80 to 2 different girls (separately) . They were a 7 or 7.5 and gave great FS in my hotel on 5 separate occasions in 2014/2015. I also had a couple massage girls agree to a 500RMB/$80 number but I didn't follow up as I had other targets on my mind. (I truly regret missing those opportunities!).
I am over 50, Bald, not thin but not fat but I have done just well in Shanghai. if I were a great football player like you stacked and as rich as you say, I can only imagine how much better I could have done. You however with all that going and streetsmarts got scammed,,,,,go figure.
I honestly think If anyone needs to look in the mirror it should be you H1. I don't think you are as (street or otherwise) smart as you give yourself credit. I think you know this and that is why you Bash Shanghai. You can't believe you were so stupid.
Just my honest opinion. Suck it up H1. Learn from your mistakes and where the fault really lies.
Sam.[/QUOTE]Sam. Thanks so much for your input. Maybe I should say I am well traveled and SCAMHAI is the only place where I had a friend assaulted by 4 dude and one with a 9 MM. YES SAM I agree with what you said about having sub-par experiences but they are just that and come with the territory. My beef is that SCAMHAI wants to have visitors believe it is sooo safe and has such a low crime rate. Yeah. I had a bad experience with the SNG girl but whatever. Shit happpens. It's not that I hate SCAMHAI because of a sub-par performance. It is SOLELY because I and my friend were brought into a very scary situation by a tout. YES! YES! YES! Now I know. Cardinal rule. Never follow a tout. Where the F# was such sage advice when I asked on my first trip. All I got as responses was either Shanghai is safe or Shanghai is a good bargain or whatever. Anything except the truth of be careful with touts. So I am on a mission to make sure that nobody goes thru the shit that I went thru. That's all Sam. Like it or not. I will continue to beat that drum because somebody didn't do it when I asked. All I got was RTFF. WOW! Helpful.
[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1818515]Sam. Thanks so much for your input. Maybe I should say I am well traveled and SCAMHAI is the only place where I had a friend assaulted by 4 dude and one with a 9 MM. YES SAM I agree with what you said about having sub-par experiences but they are just that and come with the territory. My beef is that SCAMHAI wants to have visitors believe it is sooo safe and has such a low crime rate. Yeah. I had a bad experience with the SNG girl but whatever. Shit happpens. It's not that I hate SCAMHAI because of a sub-par performance. It is SOLELY because I and my friend were brought into a very scary situation by a tout. YES! YES! YES! Now I know. Cardinal rule. Never follow a tout. Where the F# was such sage advice when I asked on my first trip. All I got as responses was either Shanghai is safe or Shanghai is a good bargain or whatever. Anything except the truth of be careful with touts. So I am on a mission to make sure that nobody goes thru the shit that I went thru. That's all Sam. Like it or not. I will continue to beat that drum because somebody didn't do it when I asked. All I got was RTFF. WOW! Helpful.[/QUOTE]
RTFF is sound advice. There are literally hundreds of warnings on the forum not to follow touts, warnings you failed to read or heed. This is as much your failing as the forum's or Shanghai's. Personally, I do not follow touts in any city.
On the broader scale of mongering in Shanghai, the fact that touts lead you to threatening, ripoff venues does not turn the city into "Scamhai."
[QUOTE=TheGuy;1818540]RTFF is sound advice. There are literally hundreds of warnings on the forum not to follow touts, warnings you failed to read or heed. This is as much your failing as the forum's or Shanghai's. Personally, I do not follow touts in any city.
On the broader scale of mongering in Shanghai, the fact that touts lead you to threatening, ripoff venues does not turn the city into "Scamhai."[/QUOTE]You are correct! One single incident should not label any city as a SCAM. Its just the other stuff. Like right off the flight I am taken to my hotel for 600 rmb by a SCAM taxi driver. I know because the return trip was only 180 rmb. SCAM!
Then there's the same taxi driver who offered to change my $100 usd for 600 rmb. WOW. Nice guy except two of the bills were fake. SCAM! Then we get to the destination and he trys to charge me more than we originally agreed on. SCAM!
Then there's the fun couple in the park inviting me to a "tea ceremony". SCAM! Then there's the Touts willing to take you to a 'girl bar' only to take you to a place with thugs to rob you at gunpoint. SUPER SCAM!
Get my point. SCAMHAI!
Somebody get some hankies for the cry baby. Other new be's have read the forum and don't fall into the traps.
[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1818515]Sam. Thanks so much for your input. Maybe I should say I am well traveled and SCAMHAI is the only place where I had a friend assaulted by 4 dude and one with a 9 MM. YES SAM I agree with what you said about having sub-par experiences but they are just that and come with the territory. My beef is that SCAMHAI wants to have visitors believe it is sooo safe and has such a low crime rate. Yeah. I had a bad experience with the SNG girl but whatever. Shit happpens. It's not that I hate SCAMHAI because of a sub-par performance. It is SOLELY because I and my friend were brought into a very scary situation by a tout. YES! YES! YES! Now I know. Cardinal rule. Never follow a tout. Where the F# was such sage advice when I asked on my first trip. All I got as responses was either Shanghai is safe or Shanghai is a good bargain or whatever. Anything except the truth of be careful with touts. So I am on a mission to make sure that nobody goes thru the shit that I went thru. That's all Sam. Like it or not. I will continue to beat that drum because somebody didn't do it when I asked. All I got was RTFF. WOW! Helpful.[/QUOTE]HB1, your experiences here in Shanghai have been bad, but it shows that you actually are far from street-smart.
It should be clear that the taxi guys at the airport waiting for you at the customs exit are no legit taxis. But, off course, they are convenient, you don't have to go down to the official taxi stand and you don't have to wait in line (BTW, the line in Pudong normally is not that long).
If you would be that street-smart, you would have done your homework before you go hunting in Shanghai, you would have 'rtff'. If so, you would probably have avoided to go with the touts and get robbed, because there were warnings enough (still do doubt the 9 mm, there are no real guns on the street in Shanghai).
SNG: ok, this can happen. I had mixed experiences with the SNG girls, some were extremely sweet, some simply too professionnel. But. Come on, get over it. She probably had a bad day.
Still, Shanghai is a good place for your hobby, if you take your time, do not rush it (and that's what you super street-smartie did, and you paid for it), and if you DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND RTFF.
'nuff said. Wish you will have a better experience next time.
Lev.
[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1818733]You are correct! One single incident should not label any city as a SCAM. Its just the other stuff. Like right off the flight I am taken to my hotel for 600 rmb by a SCAM taxi driver. I know because the return trip was only 180 rmb. SCAM!
Then there's the same taxi driver who offered to change my $100 usd for 600 rmb. WOW. Nice guy except two of the bills were fake. SCAM! Then we get to the destination and he trys to charge me more than we originally agreed on. SCAM!
Then there's the fun couple in the park inviting me to a "tea ceremony". SCAM! Then there's the Touts willing to take you to a 'girl bar' only to take you to a place with thugs to rob you at gunpoint. SUPER SCAM!
Get my point. SCAMHAI![/QUOTE]"Scamhai" is overstating it. Most Shanghai taxis run according to the meter, and they will not overcharge. In neighboring Vietnam, many more taxis rig their meters. In Bangkok, many taxis refuse to respect their own meters. In Burma, taxis negotiate for every fare.
Throughout Asia and Latin America, taxi drivers, who try to attract airport passengers before they get to taxi lines, will overcharge. Not unique to Shanghai. These are often unofficial taxis, so there is little protection.
Teahouse scam is awful. It has snagged countless tourists in both Beijing and Shanghai. However, it is well documented on Internet.
In sum, while unfortunate if you got hit by all the events you cite, they do not make Shanghai more scam-ridden than other Asian countries. While it's always good to be mindful of a country's many scam artists and other crooks, which Shanghai has, your experiences do not justify a savvy monger on a singular mission to discourage others from Shanghai.