Manila

Some of the recent posts here seem to imply that the Philippines is the exclusive playground of caucasians. Even the war card has been played, as though the world has not moved on from the mid-1900s. For heaven's sake, Australia and Japan fought each other in WWII but it is very rare nowadays to hear any reference to it in Australia as business and cultural changes have forged a new relationship.

Everybody who is a non-Filipino is a foreigner, including Koreans as well as caucasians, Indians, Chinese, Japanese etc, and they all have as much a "right" to visit the Philippines as anybody else. Use of terms like "infest" applies to all foreigners. I have heard filipinos say that AC is infested by (insert nationality).

If the free market economy excludes the cheap charlies from low cost sex then there is nothing that can be done about it. If you can't beat them, join them. If you want the better lookers, you will have to outbid other punters whether in monetary terms, personality or appearance.

Higher prices will work to the advantage of poor filipinas, and surely that's a good thing no matter how much it might mean the end of "the good old days". Many of the Asians who are coming here are businessmen who are investing in large-scale development. Not all are tourists seeking a good time.

Heading off to remote places like Butuan or Tandag or Bislig is a quick short-term fix that doesn't always work as planned because many east asian groups are also in these places checking out options for investment. I saw a large group of Koreanos in Leyte a month ago in 2 large mini-buses looking at resort development. They were also out and about in the evening.

[QUOTE=Radical Guy; 1343052]I have been reading a lot about the fairly recent level of competition posed by Koreans in the Philippines, and how this is ruining things for western guys. Is this problem limited to the bigger cities like Manila and Cebu, and popular destinations like AC? How are things in the provinces?

I have always preferred chatting up ladies in smaller places, such as Butuan or Bislig City, or simply traveling there to meet them. Have the Koreans "infested" these areas also?

RG[/QUOTE]I don't buy the line that all Koreans are bad because of what their grand-daddies did in WW2, I also don't really buy into the idea that they spoil the market for Westerners. But what does concern me are the reports of the Korean criminal gangs who are muscling in on the bars and restaurants in areas such as Cebu. I don't know if this is connected to the tendency of bars and other places of entertainment to go from being great places to hang out to being sterile, dull and boring.

Chatting up ladies in smaller places can be difficult if the ladies are from that town and have relatives and families to worry about. That is why cities, apart from Metro Manila, are great places to meet Filipinas who have moved from some other place. But the Korean influence has made those cities less interesting and possibly more expensive.

One thing about us Westerners: while many of us may not have the huge amounts of cash to throw around like the Koreans do, we have the advantage of being generally good natured and pleasant people to Filipinas than either the local men or the Korean men. Some things in this world are priceless. For everything else there is M*st*rc*rd!

[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1341734]For those of you in manila few good parties going on for hallowen.

BLACK PARTY. Mardigrass style party in Malate. Google it for details, street party.

Cream Hallowen. Big Fish Manila. This is more elite event that can get sleazy, google bigfishmanila.

[url]http://www.bigfishmanila.com/[/url]

ICON. Always has good dress up parties too.

Burgos. When else can you get sucked off by a zombie? Weird to see the girls in crazy costumes and scary make up, not my thing, done it once, thats enough.

I will be at Cream Hallowen.[/QUOTE]McDon,

Was this for Saturday or actual night of Halloween? Not sure because it's a weekday. I am landing at night on Halloween and wanted to see what kind of options there are. I'll probably be tired but just curious how and if most of the locals celebrate.

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1343046]Koreans really do believe that they are the superior race. They act like this, and it shows in the Phils. Females are attracted to males who display superior power and authority.

"The whole world admires and envies us because of our racial purity. We are so unique"

"we are becoming world leaders precisely because we are a pure-race people: we shall never corrupt our blood"

Worth thinking about,

G[/QUOTE]Koreans are actually taught in school that Korea is the centre of the world. No joke.

Try walking down the streets of Seoul or Busan and the koreans have an amazing way of looking right through you as if you don't exist.

Of course the reason why the koreans want to be in Philippines or everywhere except Korea is that their country, and the people in it are the boring country I've visited (and I'm up to the 100 mark!). Apologies to the cool and normal koreans who may be posters here!

[QUOTE=Mbsl65; 1342959][Crossposted to Cebu forum too]

I had a 20 days of trip to Cebu, Bohol, Davao and Manila (Makati) and I had a great time.[/QUOTE]Great report.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1343066]Everybody who is a non-Filipino is a foreigner, including Koreans as well as caucasians, Indians, Chinese, Japanese etc, and they all have as much a "right" to visit the Philippines as anybody else. Use of terms like "infest" applies to all foreigners. I have heard filipinos say that AC is infested by (insert nationality).[/QUOTE]I would argue that koreans are not just any group of poreigners. You will never see a Filipino-Belgian police station, for instance. Or Filipino- (insert any other non-korean nationality) Police, including Filipino-Japanese. But the koreans sure do have their own police force already.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1343066]If the free market economy excludes the cheap charlies from low cost sex then there is nothing that can be done about it. If you can't beat them, join them. If you want the better lookers, you will have to outbid other punters whether in monetary terms, personality or appearance.[/QUOTE]I basically agree, only free markets don't dictate all world events. South korea is still technically at war. I'm amazed how the Americans year after year take care of South korea's defense so that the koreans themselves can focus more on interesting things, like trying to beat Apple. However, things can change. There are several more conflicts brewing in the area, and things can take unexpected turns, others than what free market economics would suggest or dictate. Just my 2 pesos.

Japan / Korea / Germany would have been the front lines if the Cold War had ever turned hot. Don't think for a minute that the US is just some benevolent country helping the world toward democracy and freedom. T.

[QUOTE=Hutsori; 1343038]In-fucking-deed. Whilst the Filipinos stuck with the US through thin and thinner in WWII the Koreans were torturing and murdering Allied POWs. The very same Allies who'd later liberate them from Japan and repel the red commie horde. Quite an injustice of the US building up Japan and Korea whilst not putting forth the same effort in the Philippines.

Great report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1343255]Koreans are actually taught in school that Korea is the centre of the world. No joke.

Try walking down the streets of Seoul or Busan and the koreans have an amazing way of looking right through you as if you don't exist.

Of course the reason why the koreans want to be in Philippines or everywhere except Korea is that their country, and the people in it are the boring country I've visited (and I'm up to the 100 mark!). Apologies to the cool and normal koreans who may be posters here![/QUOTE]We teach American kids that they're the center of the earth, too. We call it "American exceptionalism."

I agree generally with the xenophobic characterization of Koreans-and of some other East Asians that come to mind. And I've had the same experience in Seoul of having average Koreans apparently look right through me. I've also had smiling school kids, seemingly on a field trip, line up and in unison announce loudly to me,"good morning" as I walked by them. And in Daegu, a smaller city than Seoul or Busan, I've had Koreans stare at me, seemingly out of curiosity, pretty much the way Filipinos sometimes do with Westerners.

And having worked closely professionally with a few Koreans, I've been taken into a few of their finest working girl (neat: ISG automatically replaces that naughty who.. word) houses, and they paid the tab, to the tune of perhaps 350, 000 to 400, 000 won for the girl, not to mention the karaoke room, drinks, food, and female attendants.

Japan, Korea, Taiwan are all paying the US big money for maintaining troops in their countries under mutual defense treaties. The US is not doing it for free.

The US should sign mutual defense treaties only with countries with the best-looking, sexiest and sluttiest girls, and just dump countries with ugly women. Under this new foreign policy, I know most ISG guys would quickly volunteer to join the US expeditionary forces.

Will fight tooth and nails for pussies.

[QUOTE=Pute Nut;1343273]There are several more conflicts brewing in the area, and things can take unexpected turns, others than what free market economics would suggest or dictate. Just my 2 pesos.[/QUOTE]Not to forget that it could be very convenient for the US to have a military presence not too far away from China and from a bunch of crazies with atomic bombs (in Pyongyang).

Anything special going on in Manilla during Halloween? Is there any places that is a must!

YG

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1343348]Japan, Korea, Taiwan are all paying the US big money for maintaining troops in their countries under mutual defense treaties. The US is not doing it for free.

The US should sign mutual defense treaties only with countries with the best-looking, sexiest and sluttiest girls, and just dump countries with ugly women. Under this new foreign policy, I know most ISG guys would quickly volunteer to join the US expeditionary forces.

Will fight tooth and nails for pussies.[/QUOTE]The Japanese contribute close to if not 100 per cent. The Koreans don't. Most of Korea's contribution is in kind, meaning that some Korean workers on the base are paid by Korean gov't, Korean-made vehicles are contributed, etc. Moreover, the Yokosuka-based 7th Fleet, which has a large role in the defense of Korea, is funded by Japan. Ever think about the day-to-day cost of an aircraft carrier and its support ships? Beijing and Washington would both be staggered to learn that US forces are maintained in Taiwan. But your error brings up an interesting point. Though outnumbered and overpowered in almost every measure Taiwan has been able to maintain its "independence" and security since the US long departed. Why can't Korea do the heavy lifting on its own facing a much less potent foe?

The 60s and 70s must've been the heyday for US forces in lovely-lady land. Vietnam. Thailand. The Philippines. Now it's the Middle East and Afghanistan. *Shudder

[QUOTE=YG365; 1343417]Anything special going on in Manilla during Halloween? Is there any places that is a must!

YG[/QUOTE]On page 3. A start.

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Anyone have good contact info, email or number, for the hotel upstairs in Amazonia? I emailed their website but nothing.

Thanks,

JB

Manila Bay Cafe is just getting older and older by the minute! Paid a visit it to on my most recent trip and I just wasn't feeling any of the girls. They're all past their primes and asking for 2500 peso and up! Talk about a rip off! I recommend you just avoid Manila all together and go straight to Angeles asap if you're headed to the Philippines.

Stay Away,

YG