American Politics

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2734417]So far, every former Trump Admin offical agrees and none has said otherwise; moron Trump's claim is ludicrous, fictional, BS nonsense.

Oh, and there is no "magic wand" option:[/QUOTE]Oh, CNN says that? Okay, who does have the right to declassify if not the president? The FBI decides what should be classified and what is not?

This is another ludicrous trial balloon for probable cause the FBI is floating and it is going over like a fart in church. Trump can declassify whatever he wants, and the Supreme Court will eventually back him on this.

And the CIA just declassified a million pages of documents in 2014. Among those "top secret" documents were UFO sightings, stories about area 51, and a recipe for invisible ink that was used in World War one.

The one thing I can guarantee you of is whatever "classified" documents the FBI took, they are going to sit on this it for decades. Regardless, this is a sematic issue that should have been handled by lawyers in a court room and not with federal agents wielding machine guns.

Like Hilary Clinton, here is an FBI guy destroying records, [URL]https://katv.com/news/local/a-former-agent-of-fbi-pleads-guilty-to-charges-connected-to-jon-woods-trial-ex-arkansas-lawmaker-now-in-prison-says-he-and-other-inmates-wants-to-build-trumps-wall-ecclesia-college-springdale-robert-cessario[/URL].

One wonders how many of these documents get lost. Hell, Melania's closet was full of top secret stuff.

But you do not care. Agents knocking on your door with machine guns is not going to happen to you Eih because your ass lives in Thailand. The Federal government can trash the Constitution all day long as long as you get your free health care and social security checks.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2734366]If Trump was against lockdowns, economic disasters, the death of a million Americans (and still counting), millions upon millions of USA jobs wiped out, the collapse of global supply chains, the inevitable hyper-inflation that follows, higher gas and food prices, etc, then he wouldn't have defunded the CDC and pulled all of our Pandemic Prevention and Response teams out of China in 2018 against all expert warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous to National Security and the economy and then compounded that catastrophic economic and National Security decision all through critical year 2020 by lying to the world precisely the way a world leader would want to lie in order to turn a likely manageable local virus spread into the Trump's Pandemic it became and still is.[/QUOTE]Eih, the only people who died of Covid were the ones early on mistakenly put on ventilators. Covid did not kill millions of people. Covid mostly hit diabetics, the obese, and elderly hard. Take away the comorbidities and for most people Covid was just a form of nasty flu. It was beyond stupid to shut down the world economy because of it.

Like I said, I still see Covid and still see people really sick with it, but it no longer is in the news. Gee, why is that? Could it be that the media and scientific establishment got together and hyped the shit out of the virus to destroy the economy and get Trump out of office? The tech companies censored anyone who did not March in line with the CDC and WHO and did you notice the CDC just said they were wrong with much of what they did? It turns out so much of that disinformation, like the ineffectiveness and side effects of the vaccine, was right all along.

Biden, Fauci, and the Pfizer CEO have come down with Covid lately so kindly shut up now. You are not going to convince me or anyone else that Covid was not ridiculously overblown by the "experts."

[QUOTE=Villainy;2734336]Grossly exaggerated number of trips that Clinton took.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known[/URL]

"Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender's infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the "Lolita Express" -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights".

At least 26 trips. And why do you think he ditched his Secret Service detail?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2734516]Oh,

Like Hilary Clinton, here is an FBI guy destroying records, [URL]https://katv.com/news/local/a-former-agent-of-fbi-pleads-guilty-to-charges-connected-to-jon-woods-trial-ex-arkansas-lawmaker-now-in-prison-says-he-and-other-inmates-wants-to-build-trumps-wall-ecclesia-college-springdale-robert-cessario[/URL].

One wonders how many of these documents get lost. Hell, Melania's closet was full of top secret stuff.

But you do not care. Agents knocking on your door with machine guns is not going to happen to you Eih because your ass lives in Thailand. The Federal government can trash the Constitution all day long as long as you get your free health care and social security checks.[/QUOTE]Shredding docs is a shared pastime among both parties and FBI, CIA. Remember Ollie North who had his secretary shredding everything but the wallpaper? FBI and CIA shredded so many JFK Assassination files to cover their asses. Good one on Milania! Her closet is full of top secrets and we would all like to see her wearing them, Victoria Secrets! Shredding is a way of life in Washington and I suggest anyone among us do the same if ever needed or burn them it's better.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2734487]You are crazy and delusional. If you want to call Trump, an "Ass Hole or Bad Guy, I agree, but we would be in far worse economic shape, if it was not for how Trump handled Covid. You can not blame him for the supply chain issues on Trump, he was against lockdowns, this is what caused the issues. Your liberal buddies and governments wanted lockdowns, now the world is suffering the ramifications of shutdowns. They do not work.[/QUOTE]We would be in "far worse economic shape" if Trump had not defunded and pulled out all of the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams from China in 2018 in defiance of all expert warnings for him not to do something so stupid and dangerous to the economy, lives and national security?

Please elaborate on how that could possibly be so.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2734519]Eih, the only people who died of Covid were the ones early on mistakenly put on ventilators. Covid did not kill millions of people. Covid mostly hit diabetics, the obese, and elderly hard. Take away the comorbidities and for most people Covid was just a form of nasty flu. It was beyond stupid to shut down the world economy because of it.

Like I said, I still see Covid and still see people really sick with it, but it no longer is in the news. Gee, why is that? Could it be that the media and scientific establishment got together and hyped the shit out of the virus to destroy the economy and get Trump out of office? The tech companies censored anyone who did not March in line with the CDC and WHO and did you notice the CDC just said they were wrong with much of what they did? It turns out so much of that disinformation, like the ineffectiveness and side effects of the vaccine, was right all along.[/QUOTE]You're still stuck on the idea that vaccines are supposed to miraculously encase you in a magic bubble that prevents a virus from entering Biden's body, Fauci's body, mine or yours at which point you could still test positive for it rather than what they actually do to prevent serious illness or death when the virus does enter the body as expected it will?

Wow.

Then there is no use in my trying to educate you any further about it.

But for everyone else; the vaccines have worked as predicted to reduce the instance of serious illness or death for those infected with Trump's Pandemic virus everywhere on the planet.

Trump did not "have it under control", it did not "disappear" and "go away without a vaccine" as Trump knowingly lied about it for most of a critical year when his self-serving lies were busy creating Trump's Pandemic, crashing worldwide economies, mass murdering millions, wiping out millions of jobs and global supply chains and damn near died from it himself pre vaccine if not for extraordinary immediate emergency treatment and measures taken that few outside of presidents have at hand and on call 24/7 for just such an occasion.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/21/poll-j-d-vance-dominates-tim-ryan-ohio/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2734239]Engage my brain? You mean drink the Trump Kool-Aid like you've been doing?? He didn't have the [B]#1 TV show in the country[/B]. He claimed he had the top show on NBC. You can't even get your Trump BS straight.

[URL]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/apr/08/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-his-show-no-1-nbc-he-right/[/URL][/QUOTE]Look at yourself splitting hairs, like those fake news "fact-checkers" who say "Ohhhhh, Trump said the rate increased by 12% but it was actually 12.1% therefore he was lying!" while completely ignoring Fauci's "I did not fund gain of function research in Wuhan at 3.00 on a Tuesday."

The point that you are pathetically and transparently fleeing from is that he had a massively successful TV show and other businesses earning him hundreds of millions; he was the darling of the media (watch the same shriveled on The View who now hysterically attack him fawning and gushing over him when he used to go on.

He gave all of that up, sacrificed billions of dollars and the fawning fake smiles of the fake media, because he saw how badly America was going wrong and how badly the heritage American people were being screwed. Very few people in his position would do that. The vast majority would and do enjoy their wealth and adulation, and ignore the decline.

Donald Trump is an American hero. Trump 2024.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2734593][URL]https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known[/URL]

"Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender's infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the "Lolita Express" -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights".

At least 26 trips. And why do you think he ditched his Secret Service detail?[/QUOTE]Mr. Objective. Fox News reported that Clinton took 26 trips on Epstein's plane. But that was reported in May 2016. Right?

But the flight logs in their entirety were entered into evidence in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. This information was made public and reported in December, 2021.

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-bill-clinton-prince-andrew-multiple-trips-jeffrey-epstein-plane-ghislaine-maxwell-1661513[/URL]

I wonder which would be more accurate??

Oh and you forgot to mention that your hero the Donald took 7 flights on the Lolita Express himself?

Perhaps the point you were trying to make was that Bill Clinton is a sleaze-ball and Donald Trump is just a little less of a sleaze-ball?

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2734732]Look at yourself splitting hairs, like those fake news "fact-checkers" who say "Ohhhhh, Trump said the rate increased by 12% but it was actually 12.1% therefore he was lying!" while completely ignoring Fauci's "I did not fund gain of function research in Wuhan at 3.00 on a Tuesday."

The point that you are pathetically and transparently fleeing from is that he had a massively successful TV show and [B]other businesses earning him hundreds of millions[/B]; he was the darling of the media (watch the same shriveled on The View who now hysterically attack him fawning and gushing over him when he used to go on.

He gave all of that up, sacrificed billions of dollars and the fawning fake smiles of the fake media, because he saw how badly America was going wrong and how badly the heritage American people were being screwed. Very few people in his position would do that. The vast majority would and do enjoy their wealth and adulation, and ignore the decline.

Donald Trump is an American hero. Trump 2024.[/QUOTE]Is that what you call splitting hairs? I would say that Trump exaggerated how successful his program was. He was number 1 that week on ONE network. You made it into the number 1 show on all of television. That isn't splitting hairs that is correcting a massive fabrication.

And I know you hate to be confronted with facts but which of his other businesses were earning him 100's of millions? Was it Trump Steaks? (bankruptcy), Was it Trump Taj Mahal? (bankruptcy 1991) was it Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino? (bankruptcy 1992), was it Plaza Hotel? (bankruptcy 1992), was it Trump Castle Hotel and Casino? (bankruptcy 1992), was it Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts? (bankruptcy 2004), was it Trump Entertainment Resorts? (bankruptcy 2009) was it Trump University? (closed after settling lawsuits 2016) was it Trump Airlines? (defaulted on loans and creditors reposessed the assets 1990), was it Trump Vodka? Trump Beverage? Trump the Game?

I'm getting tired of listing them all. You can read about them yourself.

[URL]https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/donald-trumps-business-failures-were-very-real[/URL]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2734896]Mr. Objective. Fox News reported that Clinton took 26 trips on Epstein's plane. But that was reported in May 2016. Right?

But the flight logs in their entirety were entered into evidence in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. This information was made public and reported in December, 2021.

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-bill-clinton-prince-andrew-multiple-trips-jeffrey-epstein-plane-ghislaine-maxwell-1661513[/URL]

I wonder which would be more accurate??

Oh and you forgot to mention that your hero the Donald took 7 flights on the Lolita Express himself?

Perhaps the point you were trying to make was that Bill Clinton is a sleaze-ball and Donald Trump is just a little less of a sleaze-ball?[/QUOTE]So you withdrew your earlier false claim that 26 was a "grossly exaggerated number" of Clinton Lolita Express trips. That's good, you're making progress.

Now, to examine Trump's flights: "In a flight log from June 1994, Trump's name appears alongside "Marla"—presumably his then-wife Marla Maples—his then-baby daughter Tiffany, and a nanny. ".

"Trump's son Eric is listed on a flight in August 1995 from Palm Beach to New York. Eric Trump would have been 11 years old at the time of that flight. ".

Ah. So Trump took a few flights with his wife and children. This was also in the mid-90's, when less was known about Epstein's predilections. When they became clear, Trump banned him from Mar a Lago.

The Clinton flights (26 at least) were several years later, when the secret was out. Clinton certainly wasn't travelling with Crooked Hillary and the White House Dog. In fact, on several occasions, he wasn't even travelling with his Secret Service detail, whom he jettisoned against protocol.

Why would he do that?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2734680][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/21/poll-j-d-vance-dominates-tim-ryan-ohio/[/URL][/QUOTE]JD Vance is a good man and will be a decent senator. Unless there is, ahem, "mail-in voting".

Impeach Joe and Garland and lock up Hunter.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg-Z2aqRKRo[/URL]

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2734487]You are crazy and delusional. If you want to call Trump, an "Ass Hole or Bad Guy, I agree, but we would be in far worse economic shape, if it was not for how Trump handled Covid. You can not blame him for the supply chain issues on Trump, he was against lockdowns, this is what caused the issues. Your liberal buddies and governments wanted lockdowns, now the world is suffering the ramifications of shutdowns. They do not work.[/QUOTE]Not just crazy AF but crazy AF and delusional LMAO.

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