Seoul

[QUOTE=Misou;2043434]For those having issues seeing backpack for Seoul. Work around is to view the mobile side, with a proxy.[/QUOTE]I noticed if I just type "[URL]backpage.com[/URL]" that sometimes it works, sometimes I get the dreaded censor page. However, if I add "www. " to the front of it, it works every time, both comp and mobile. It's really weird how the censorship works. Like if I go directly to [URL]xvideos.com[/URL], then I get the censor page. But if I go to google first and type "kianna Dior vids" (she's a favorite of mine), links for xvideos and other tube sites obviously come up in search. If I click on the link for xvideos, it works. Any IT experts know how that is?

[QUOTE=Ready81;2043224]And I am enticed by the backpage ads too. Backpage Korea is just always such a disappointment tho, so I can't force myself to do it.[/QUOTE]I've generally stayed away from all the ads that claim to be independent. The one's that claim to be independent that I only pay attention to are the one's in which the girl is holding a card with her email address on it. And even then, that's a gamble. I've noticed that their prices and the prices for the agencies are about the same anyways, around $220 250 K and negotiable. Bohemiam has a good reputation on review sites, but they are a bit more expensive: 300 K $260 non-negotiable.

Hope this helps!

[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2043560]I noticed if I just type "[URL]backpage.com[/URL]" that sometimes it works, sometimes I get the dreaded censor page. However, if I add "www. " to the front of it, it works every time, both comp and mobile. It's really weird how the censorship works. Like if I go directly to [URL]xvideos.com[/URL], then I get the censor page. But if I go to google first and type "kianna Dior vids" (she's a favorite of mine), links for xvideos and other tube sites obviously come up in search. If I click on the link for xvideos, it works. Any IT experts know how that is?[/QUOTE]I know. That's why I use a proxy. Don't use a US proxy as it will redirect you to the US only side as soon as you click the agree part on any of the adult pages. If you do, it will keep taking you to that page, until you close the browser completely and open it back up.

Google search links don't link directly to the sites. It takes you to another page that you don't see and then redirects it to the site.

Rightclick the google link and then paste into the address bar. You'll see that the address is different then the actual address.

[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2043565]I've generally stayed away from all the ads that claim to be independent. The one's that claim to be independent that I only pay attention to are the one's in which the girl is holding a card with her email address on it. And even then, that's a gamble. I've noticed that their prices and the prices for the agencies are about the same anyways, around $220 250 K and negotiable. Bohemiam has a good reputation on review sites, but they are a bit more expensive: 300 K $260 non-negotiable.

Hope this helps![/QUOTE]There are a few agencies that don't disappoint. My best experience was probably with Aqua. Bohemian just pulls too many sneaky moves for me to justify their price. I mean 300,000 won for some " innocent girl" who acts like she's never had sex before and sudden price increases for supposedly "premium girls" being the only ones available. That's just too "Korea Style". I believe their reviews are to a large extent fake as well. Let's just say my experiences with them were *very* different than those first 10 reviews that popped up on ***. I guess it might be worth it though if people really just want to meet a moderately attractive Korean girl.

I have my doubts about the phone-number / email photo girls. Everyone is doing it these days, so it sets off alarms.

It really brings me to my old gripe about those. Why is almost every single ad on there the same? Same prices, same style, same fake photos, same bullshit sales pitch. No one tries to differentiate themselves in any way to get our money. Just gouge on price and get out of town seems to be the only strategy they know. I guess it works here.

The Venezuelan girl in Itaewon was 10 x better than any backpage girl I ever had.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2043583]There are a few agencies that don't disappoint. My best experience was probably with Aqua. Bohemian just pulls too many sneaky moves for me to justify their price. I mean 300,000 won for some " innocent girl" who acts like she's never had sex before and sudden price increases for supposedly "premium girls" being the only ones available. That's just too "Korea Style". I believe their reviews are to a large extent fake as well. Let's just say my experiences with them were *very* different than those first 10 reviews that popped up on ***. I guess it might be worth it though if people really just want to meet a moderately attractive Korean girl.

I have my doubts about the phone-number / email photo girls. Everyone is doing it these days, so it sets off alarms.

It really brings me to my old gripe about those. Why is almost every single ad on there the same? Same prices, same style, same fake photos, same bullshit sales pitch. No one tries to differentiate themselves in any way to get our money. Just gouge on price and get out of town seems to be the only strategy they know. I guess it works here.

The Venezuelan girl in Itaewon was 10 x better than any backpage girl I ever had.[/QUOTE]Wow! Thanks for the heads up on Bohemian! Dodged a bullet. I'll definitely try Aqua. I definitely got to hit up that Latina in Itaewon. GFE?

[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2043674]Wow! Thanks for the heads up on Bohemian! Dodged a bullet. I'll definitely try Aqua. I definitely got to hit up that Latina in Itaewon. GFE?[/QUOTE]A few people swear by Bohemian, but I just think they are the best at the scam. The girls I had were cute, but not cuter than girls I've had at some other places. (though some agencies do the bait and switch, which Bohemian does not, to be fair).

Be careful about Aqua, as I think another Escort service has changed their name to Aqua as well. The one I am talking about has a huge natural boobed (yet slim) girl named JINAH. The photos they use of her on the website are real and the name she goes by appears to be real as well. Search something like "Seoul Escorts Jinah" and that will be the girl and the place. She had an extremely pretty face as well.

Venezuelan girl was friendly and spoke English well, which is already closer to genuine GFE than most K-girls here. The only issue with her is that I get the impression that she is very popular and knows it, so that may push her to rush. But I think Itaewon is probably the closest the genuine GFE in Korea. I think the Korean idea of GFE just does not translate to Westerners of any stripe. Korean guys seem to be attracted to girls who are coy, resist, and give off a kind of huffy (but supposedly "cute") attitude. The Itaewon girls seem to be the closest to "Westernized" in this sense. But then again, if you are in Korea, maybe you want to try Korea style. I am just annoyed by it after years.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2043742]A few people swear by Bohemian, but I just think they are the best at the scam. The girls I had were cute, but not cuter than girls I've had at some other places. (though some agencies do the bait and switch, which Bohemian does not, to be fair).

Be careful about Aqua, as I think another Escort service has changed their name to Aqua as well. The one I am talking about has a huge natural boobed (yet slim) girl named JINAH. The photos they use of her on the website are real and the name she goes by appears to be real as well. Search something like "Seoul Escorts Jinah" and that will be the girl and the place. She had an extremely pretty face as well.

Venezuelan girl was friendly and spoke English well, which is already closer to genuine GFE than most K-girls here. The only issue with her is that I get the impression that she is very popular and knows it, so that may push her to rush. But I think Itaewon is probably the closest the genuine GFE in Korea. I think the Korean idea of GFE just does not translate to Westerners of any stripe. Korean guys seem to be attracted to girls who are coy, resist, and give off a kind of huffy (but supposedly "cute") attitude. The Itaewon girls seem to be the closest to "Westernized" in this sense. But then again, if you are in Korea, maybe you want to try Korea style. I am just annoyed by it after years.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I guess my definition of GFE is more westernized and based more on a set of particular services (DFK, DATY, BBBJ, MSOG at the minimum). And I guess there definitely is an expectation of having a kgirl experience like those found in the States. I guess that's what I'm looking for.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2043583]There are a few agencies that don't disappoint. My best experience was probably with Aqua. Bohemian just pulls too many sneaky moves for me to justify their price. I mean 300,000 won for some " innocent girl" who acts like she's never had sex before and sudden price increases for supposedly "premium girls" being the only ones available. That's just too "Korea Style". I believe their reviews are to a large extent fake as well. Let's just say my experiences with them were *very* different than those first 10 reviews that popped up on ***. I guess it might be worth it though if people really just want to meet a moderately attractive Korean girl.

I have my doubts about the phone-number / email photo girls. Everyone is doing it these days, so it sets off alarms.

It really brings me to my old gripe about those. Why is almost every single ad on there the same? Same prices, same style, same fake photos, same bullshit sales pitch. No one tries to differentiate themselves in any way to get our money. Just gouge on price and get out of town seems to be the only strategy they know. I guess it works here.

The Venezuelan girl in Itaewon was 10 x better than any backpage girl I ever had.[/QUOTE]Would you mind providing the weblinks to the agencies you're referring to?

[QUOTE=LGuy1;2044468]Would you mind providing the weblinks to the agencies you're referring to?[/QUOTE]It's not allowed, but just do a google search for the names mentioned.

[QUOTE=TheGuy;2042987]Hi All- Will be in Seoul for 1st time. Have read the last year of reports. Many thanks to everyone and to Jackson. But am aware these things change super fast. Have found info for kiss bangs in Hongdae, Sillim and Sadang. Anyone can confirm which KB is now open and can take non-Korean speaking foreigner?[/QUOTE]Hi,

Hope it's not too late. The Kiss Bang in Hongdae is open. Was there 2 times, both girls were a bit fatter than Korean average but looked OK otherwise (not great). None of them spoke English, but the first girl seemed very friendly and I enjoyed it. The second time it was the pure hell. It seemed like she was just waiting until time is over. Kissing her felt like kissing a corpse. Her name was Mona. I will not go into that Kiss Bang again.

The Kiss Bang in Sadang seems to be a myth. Couldn't find it. It's not "right next to the one marked on a Google Kiss Bang map", like someone said here. If someone can confirm where it is, please do it with an exact address.

I also found a Kiss Bang a bit south of Sungnyemun Gate (randomly walked by) but don't go in there. Seems like they don't take foreigners. Does anyone know why some places don't take foreigners?

And what do you mean with the Kiss Bang at Sillim?

Best regards.

[QUOTE=TheCollector;2045014]Hi,

Hope it's not too late. The Kiss Bang in Hongdae is open. Was there 2 times, both girls were a bit fatter than Korean average but looked OK otherwise (not great). None of them spoke English, but the first girl seemed very friendly and I enjoyed it. The second time it was the pure hell. It seemed like she was just waiting until time is over. Kissing her felt like kissing a corpse. Her name was Mona. I will not go into that Kiss Bang again.

The Kiss Bang in Sadang seems to be a myth. Couldn't find it. It's not "right next to the one marked on a Google Kiss Bang map", like someone said here. If someone can confirm where it is, please do it with an exact address.

I also found a Kiss Bang a bit south of Sungnyemun Gate (randomly walked by) but don't go in there. Seems like they don't take foreigners. Does anyone know why some places don't take foreigners?

And what do you mean with the Kiss Bang at Sillim?

Best regards.[/QUOTE]There are 2 kiss bangs in Sadang:

Sadang To You Healing: Exit 4, step out, building is between the Dunkin Donut and the Paris Baguette. 4th floor. Exact Number is 1061-25. PH: 010-7349-7179.

Seven: Exit 10, about a 1 minute walk. No more details given in their ad. PH: 02-583-3345.

From what I read, both places require appointments. I'm sure once you set up an appointment, they'll give you the exact location.

And there are 2 in Silim:

JJok JJok JJok: Exit 3, 1 minute walk. It's past the C U Mini Mart. 010-5825-1270.

Mirror K: no address, direction given. 010-9393-4104.

Hope this helps!

At Jameskm1984.

Thanks, have you ever visited one of them?

[QUOTE=TheCollector;2045468]At Jameskm1984.

Thanks, have you ever visited one of them?[/QUOTE]Nope, I haven't visited any of them. I've been curious about them though. Like if there's more to it than just making out, then I might check it out. If not, I might as well pay extra and go to an oficetel.

But from the ads I've seen for kiss bangs though, it seems like some places might offer more, but I think it depends on the girl and you have to make an appointment.

[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2045597]Nope, I haven't visited any of them. I've been curious about them though. Like if there's more to it than just making out, then I might check it out. If not, I might as well pay extra and go to an oficetel.

But from the ads I've seen for kiss bangs though, it seems like some places might offer more, but I think it depends on the girl and you have to make an appointment.[/QUOTE]I went to a few different KB's while I lived in Seoul. A lot of it is YMMV depending on the girl. I've had full on FS from some girls while others wouldn't even let me feel them up. If you like the challenge of fishing, KB's are fun, but if you want a sure thing, don't waste your time and just go to an Oficetel.

Hi guys,

I have been following the forum here and luckily traveling to Seoul for a week. Please assist in getting a safe experience. I am not into massage parlour or in calls. I prefer out calls. I have seen back pages, where there are tempting profiles. I have contacted few, they are ready to come anytime. As if there is no LE issue. Please advice on following:

1) can I trust back pages? Will I get the same girl? I saw one message that is the girl is holding a playcard in pic, she can be trusted. Please advice.

2) they are asking for 230 usd for 1 HR. That's Streep. What should the right price for a. Ack pages one?

3) is LE a big issue. I don't want any trouble.

4) if back pages I not an option. What are other options?

Please assist and advice.

All regards.

J.