Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Jojosun]A very good updated report.

Q, re your barfines in Baccara, was it 600 bht for both, or for each?

The reason I am asking this time, last year it was 600 bht bar fine plus 2000 bht short time, or 4000 bht L/T.

Many of the girls there were only interested in short time at 2000bht.

I wonder in Lilac if the 2 girls accepted 2000 for both /st, as it was a double booking?

In nana and soi cow boy this time last year, it was 2000 st or 4000 lt for each girl + the bar fine.

How about prices for lady drinks?

Your report very handy for me on prices, as I am landing there in 2 weeks time.[/QUOTE]Bar fines were 600 Baht per girl for each bar.

Girl's drinks were 150 Baht. I buy a girl one if I'm interested, but don't buy many. Also, I'll have a beer or two, but I'm there to bang, not to get hammered.

I suggest that you negotiate with the girls prior to leaving the bar, that way you can always look to move on to other girls if they don't budge on their asking price during negotiations. Once you move from the bar back to the hotel room, you're negotiating from a positioned of weakness. Also, I don't tip. I negotiate a price for services and stick to it, if they mention a tip and say they need cab fare, I offer them 40 Baht, and generally they laugh, if they don't, too bad.

The girls in Tilac opened with 2000 Baht each for short time, I countered with 1000 baht each, they took it. The Girls in Baccara asked 4000 Baht for each, I negotiated it to 2000 Baht each. There they were a bit tougher in their negotiations, I actually had to walk away and talk with another girl before they agreed to 2000 each.

One thing to remember, there are more girls here than guys wanting to hire them, you are in the driver's seat. In the real estate business, they call that a "buyer's market."

[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter]I fly into Bangkok on April 24th, with plans to immediately head to Pattaya for a week. I do have a 5-day reservation at the President Solitaire in Bangkok beginning May 1st, and I'm thinking I might just blow this off and head to Siem Reap and Angkor for a few days instead, before winding things up in Chiang Mai for 4 days. I get the impression that these protests are generally limited to Bangkok. Is this true? My feeling is that as long as the Bangkok airport is open, there is no reason to cancel my trip entirely.[/QUOTE]From BBC online "Hundreds of red-shirted opposition supporters also reportedly forced their way into government offices in the northern cities of Chiang Mai and Udon Thani in protest at the crackdown in the Thai capital." You might consider this before planning to travel to the north, as this is the area the UDD has its power base.

I was out and about today, staying along Sukhumvit, from Emporium down to Soi 3, 13:30 to 22:30. A few red shirts drove past, but otherwise, very QUIET. Not that much traffic on the street, either auto or foot. Actually pretty easy to get around, except the skytrain only came as far as Asoke (from On Nut).

Soi 7 Bier Garten just fine (writing report), Morning Night bar overlooking Soi 4 just fine, looked like any number of bg's WERE showing up for work :)

Later on, up at Soi Cowboy: little less foot traffic, but the bars certainly going full bore... Do like Tilac.

Supermarkets open, some shops closed, but it was Sunday. The trip wire for me is the sidewalk vendors - when I don't see them (except for street cleaning day), then I know I'll head elsewhere. But they were all out today, if a little subdued in their pestering.

Now, I did stay away from Chidlom and Central World, that area, and I have no interest in the Khan San area...

[b]Mr Jetsetter[/b]: I would not cancel your hotel reservation. Your hotel is in the [i]golden rectangle[/i] of Nana (though dead to me, but NOT due to the disturbances), Bier Garten, [u]Soi Cowboy[/u], and the MP's around Soi's 24-26, and the only redshirts I've seen here are heading towards Central World.

Don't know about the subway, so don't know if Patpong is cut off - only real reason to go there is SOL anyway.

But in this area, keep your eyes open, both for trouble and for cute girls.

Common sense goes a [b]LONG[/b] way... The only thing I'd worry about is if they close the airport, but there are several military/police checkpoints along the way (allow extra time). The only question would be if the checkpoints are manned by [i]watermelons[/i]: green on the outside, red on the inside.

If I had a ticket, I'd come. If I didn't have a ticket, I MIGHT delay. And if you're stupid enough to go into the areas where BOTH opposing groups are armed, then you do take a risk. Things there can ESCALATE/DEGRADE [b]QUICKLY[/b].

But so far, Sukhumvit seems OK, though things can change.

And I agree, if the King made a statement, things would end. He does carry that much authority with the people. Questions really begin when he's not around any more...

Sunday, skytrain only running as far as Soi Asoke, so got off there. Decided I'd walk down to Bier Garten, SLOWLY. Not that much traffic, either auto and foot, on Sukhumvit. Quiet.

Bier Garten pretty sparse at 2pm, but there was one that attracted my attention. Attracted, but didn't catch; cute face, couldn't tell about the rack, so wasn't compelling enough TODAY. But the face was certainly attractive.

Figured I'd give it an hour, then... Annie's was closest, and there were several there on my to-do list. On the other hand, the Soi 24-26 cluster: Mango, Snow White, maybe Sazanka, or maybe try one of the others in Washington square. And there was always Tulip 1 stop up...

About 3pm, decided to leave Annie's for another day, and head to the Soi 24-26 Cluster. Just then, an attractive girl walked in and sat down directly behind a pillar (of course) so totally lost sight of her. Waited a bit to see if she'd move around; of course, she didn't.

So the mountain would have to go to mo... Paid my bill, and took the LONG way out. As I passed, got a nice smile, so stopped to chat. Nice rack (bit of sag so knew legit), older but far from dragon material; that was just what I was looking for today. Some nice, easy marketing, nothing pushy, which I appreciated. Leaned in close, checked the menu, all in order, 2 shots, pay after (OK, so KL was still casting its shadow on me...)

I mentioned we'd go to the Penthouse Hotel, but she preferred the Playboy - said it was cleaner, bigger room. Fine by me. What was a surprise is she asked if I wanted to walk - damn, I might need to check this girl's passport, make sure she's Thai. :confused: Also gave the option of a motorbike taxi (figured that was an implied *2, but you never know), but I stayed with the taxi option - I'd leave the [i]exertions[/i] for later. Walked over to Soi 9 via the Park's parking lot, didn't have long to wait for a taxi.

Several differences between the Penthouse and the Playboy:[list][*]Penthouse rooms are underground, in the basement. So as soon as the taxi pulls in, you are hidden from the street.[*]Playboy's rooms are ground level, so you are not hidden from the street.

[*]Penthouse basement rooms can have poor/no cell phone signal.[*]Playboy rooms get a signal.[/list]When we got to the Playboy, we stood around waiting for the attendant. Unlike the Penthouse, standing around is in plain view of the street. Eventually she gave up, and asked at the front desk. Just about then, here comes Mr. Attendant on his bike. Same price as Penthouse: 310 baht for 2 hours.

Rooms at the Playboy seem a little "fresher", that just because they're ground level, so when opened up, they will get some fresh air rather than exhaust. "Our" room had a round bed (I couldn't care less), wall mirrors (though the Penthouse had more mirrors, closer, so maybe the rooms are smaller ;) ). One thing that the Playboy had that the Penthouse didn't was a sex chair. She could lay in it, and you could comfortably stand while probing her [i]attributes[/i].

Bathrooms similar, though the Playboy gives you 2 bars of "hotel-small" soap. Penthouse had an obvious flash water heater, Playboy didn't, but the water was hot enough.

Nice shower before retiring to the round bed (my heart was all a-flutter, but that wasn't due to the shape of the bed - her shape very pleasing). Services delivered, no problem, standard package: DFK, bbbj cim, DATY, FS, with a short massage before, and another short massage between rounds.

The only real problem was the combination of my [u]UNDER[/u]estimation of myself and her appeal, along with her professionalism. One of the [i]attractions[/i] she had mentioned at the BG7 was that 2, even 3 hours would not be a problem, giving me whatever time was needed to recharge the batteries, as it were. Damn, the truth hurts. The SHAME of it was, not the case. She was appealing enough that the specified 2 shots were away downrange before even 90 minutes were up. I was thinking there might even be the chance for that elusive third, but having fulfilled the given contract, she was showered and starting to dress, asking me what time [b]I'd[/b] be departing the room...

Writing on [i]that[/i] wall clear... She made no bones about it, she wanted to return to the BG7, look for another score before heading home. Not worth it to beg, so just got dressed myself. But certainly if there ever is a next time, I'm being the optimist and asking for 3 up front. :)

I walked over to the Morning Night bar on Soi 4, the one just before Nana Plaza. Saw a couple of [i]attractions[/i] there. Granted, not as many as the BG7, it is a much smaller bar, but still, might be worth a look. No real stunners, but a couple who certainly were easy on the eye, friendly, with some good marketing. Unfortunately, by now I was deaf, and I'm not taking about my ears...

Later on, moved up to Soi Cowboy, couple of beers outside of Live Music, then shift right 2 to Tilac. Too hot to enjoy sitting outside there (no fan), so moved in to enjoy the entertainment. It was entertaining...

Point of the FR: business as usual. Unfortunately, you don't get THAT on the news reports...

All,

I get a lot of questions, E-Mails, PMs at the moment, guests asking about whether to travel to Thailand or not, and what I think will most likely happen next.

[b]What will happen next:[/b]

There is a 99 % chance for a small/medium stock market crash tomorrow here in Thailand :).

There is a high chance that the PM will resign within the next few days, and the House will be resolved. General elections will be called, the red shirts will celebrate their victory and return to their homes.

The chance of a military coup is slim, because the army is devided.

The chance that the red shirts will move to the airport is very very slim, the red shirts will not make the same mistake as the yellow shirts did, and there is no necessity to do so either. They have nearly won the battle. And - they already have their airport - Rajprasong intersection.

If tourists come to Bangkok right now they should not encounter any problems, if they keep out of the mentioned problem areas:

- Democracy Monument / Khao San Road / Khok Wua Intersection
- Phan Fa Bridge / Makkhawan Rangsan Bridge
- Rajprasong Intersection / Chidlom / Ploenchit

[b]Stay out of these areas![/b] It looks peaceful, but things can change within seconds (watch the videos in the Politics Thread)!

Keep yourself informed whether the red shirts are moving their demonstration sites - but I think it is quite unlikely that this will happen.

If you come because of Songkran go to Sukhothai, Ayutthaya etc., Sonkran is anyway not that special here in Bangkok.


Giotto

Thanks Giotto - for keeping us all updated on the situation in Thailand.

VERY insightful and helpful for us interested not only in Thailand as a WG paradise, but as a country of people and also an investment destination etc.

Would appreciate if others "on the ground" would also report.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Nic, thanks for the ex-pat businessman's perspective. I was responding to the Phuquer's post saying "postponing my trip for a couple of months to let things settle down."

I know the overall tourist business climate sucks. But, realistically, Thailand's tourism industry been sliding downhill since the 2004 Tsunami, the 2006 coup, the 2008 PAD airport takeover, the 2008-09 global economic downturn, and more recently by strength of the baht. What has the government done to protect this sector of the economy? Not much, except for a weak set of end user incentives and a lot of breaks for well-connected Thais.

There's an old, well known adage here for [i]farang[/i], "don't invest anything in Thailand that you cannot afford to lose." This applies to money, time and emotion. The place is a rat hole for money. Thais like it that way. Nic, I know you have a good deal here, (you've written about it many times), but you know this, too!

I don't like what's going on as much as the next guy. My neighborhood is a fcuking police state right now. It's crawling with [i]the boys in brown.[/i] But, I still can go out and have a good time. That is the point I wanted to make to ISGers who may want to come here to visit and play. If mongers stay home because they are afraid of a bunch of Isaan [i]yahoos[/i] waving flags, then the fun will end for all of us![/QUOTE]I cant understand but until today and against my local currency (Swiss Franc) The Thai Baht is still strong and wonder why? is this due to my local currency? or no consequences from all these events NOW in Thailand, why not a Thailand crisis even if less tourist there? I am going to take the risk and travel there but seems I can not take advantage for a favorable rate of exchange for me? and what about shopping in all these shopping center like Childom Paragon etc are they going to have Sales? and the go go girls in the bars too. My hotel is requesting now the same price as before (????)

[QUOTE=Sponsor74]I cant understand but until today and against my local currency (Swiss Franc) The Thai Baht is still strong and wonder why? is this due to my local currency? or no consequences from all these events NOW in Thailand, why not a Thailand crisis even if less tourist there? ...[/QUOTE]I've noticed this too during the previous political crisis in Thailand (during the closure of the airports, for instance). The value of the Thai Baht does not seem to be affected by the political turmoil. The local stock market is more subject to variations, but the local currency not much. I can't explain why, but that's what I've observed during the past years.

[QUOTE=Killer69]I've had a look through the search facility but can't seem to find any details of where you can buy sex toys in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Sex toys (and porn) are illegal to sell in LOS.

You might find some disguised ones at a street stall, but the best bet is to bring them with you as this is apparently allowed, or at least ignored.

If you snoop around Pantip Plaza until the guys selling black market naughty DVD's contact you they might be able to find you something

Thai markets do sell an amazing variety of fruits and veggies, though.

[QUOTE=Sponsor74]I cant understand but until today and against my local currency (Swiss Franc) The Thai Baht is still strong and wonder why? is this due to my local currency? or no consequences from all these events NOW in Thailand, why not a Thailand crisis even if less tourist there? I am going to take the risk and travel there but seems I can not take advantage for a favorable rate of exchange for me? and what about shopping in all these shopping center like Childom Paragon etc are they going to have Sales? and the go go girls in the bars too. My hotel is requesting now the same price as before (????)[/QUOTE]Ever since Thaksin Shinawatra's Government was forced from office, the Thai Government has been slowly and quietly "fixing" their currency. Similar to the Chinese Government, they intentionally keep the value of Thai Baht artificially low against western currencies. It's not a game or a joke.

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she stopped again after about five minutes to look at me with the bewildered look like i should have been finished by now. i gave her a thumbs up sign and she started again with a slightly faster pace that made me empty my marbles into her welcoming mouth and she made sure she got every drop. what a good little girl. she spit my cock custard into the tissue, smiled and left. now for all the mongers who said the girls are never that pretty or have a great body, i beg to differ. i would have taken her st in a second. i lasted 10 minutes tops.

she led me downstairs where i squared up and told the mamasan she's very very good. i tipped her the 300 baht mamasan returned to me, (hey i was on a holiday and she deserved every bit of it). so a total of 15 minutes, 1000 baht and a new experience to share, i was quite happy. i walked to a bar who hosts a popular website and is popular with many expats. (can i mention the big mango?)

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remember, it it flies, floats or fucks. rent it.

brassballs

[QUOTE=Siam Dreamer]Ever since Thaksin Shinawatra's Government was forced from office, the Thai Government has been slowly and quietly "fixing" their currency. Similar to the Chinese Government, they intentionally keep the value of Thai Baht artificially low against western currencies. It's not a game or a joke.[/QUOTE]Low? Do you mean high?

In 2001 the baht was 43 to 1 USD, it's now 30 baht to 1 USD. That means the baht is more valuable now than it was 9 yrs ago (think of it this way: 1000 baht buys more USD than it used to). I think it is following the same trend with other western currencies. I dont' know anything about whether it's being deliberately kept there by someone or not. Who has the power to do that in Thailand?

[QUOTE=Siam Dreamer]Ever since Thaksin Shinawatra's Government was forced from office, the Thai Government has been slowly and quietly "fixing" their currency. Similar to the Chinese Government, they intentionally keep the value of Thai Baht artificially low against western currencies. It's not a game or a joke.[/QUOTE]
Well, they sure are doing a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor job of "fixing" it then, since the value of the Thai baht has been absolutely clobbering the US dollar over the last several months.

Hi,

For those who are in BKK, given the the situation there, what really seems to be the scene in soi cowboy, nana, patpong, akane, eden etc. Any insider's info, is the business being affected here at all, as I have heard from others things are ok, however I do feel all these protests must be causing a no. Of jams in places as a result not allowing a lot of workers to reach these places.

Do let me know.

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