Jakarta

[QUOTE=Ersnh;1715340]I've gone through the last 11 pages of this thread and some people are reporting that 1.5 million rupiah is the new floor rate after negotiation with girls at the popular clubs. Is this true? If so, seems quite expensive for a country with this level of development.[/QUOTE]How about the price of a beer in those same clubs in a country with this level of development? The price of a beer is 120,000 to 150,000 for one beer. That's more than I pay in New York City or London.

I wouldn't say 1. 5 million is the "floor" rate, because you can always find the uglier girls for less. But in those expensive 5 star hotel clubs, 1. 5 million is the going rate for a good looking girl for a short time.

If you want cheaper, there are hundreds of clubs that are not 5 star where the price is cheaper.

I personally normally go to the cheaper places. I can speak bahasa, so it matters little to me that the girls at the 5 star hotel clubs can speak English. However, I do like to pull a girl from BATS or CJs on occasion. And when I do, I am prepared to pay the 1.5 million price tag these days.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1715447]
I personally normally go to the cheaper places. I can speak bahasa, so it matters little to me that the girls at the 5 star hotel clubs can speak English. However, I do like to pull a girl from BATS or CJs on occasion. And when I do, I am prepared to pay the 1.5 million price tag these days.[/QUOTE]Is the street price these days 1. 5? I haven't been there in a while but I never paid more than 750-800 K for LT?

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1715544]Is the street price these days 1. 5? I haven't been there in a while but I never paid more than 750-800 K for LT?[/QUOTE]Street price? You mean for picking up girls standing next to ojeks in the street? No, that is much cheaper.

1.5 is the going rate at BATS and CJs. Prior to the last few years, I also had never paid more than 900k for any girl in Jakarta. In a previous post, I gave the detail of how I tried to fight it, but every time I tried to pay less than 1.5 at BATS, I ended up going home alone.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1715652]
1.5 is the going rate at BATS and CJs. Prior to the last few years, I also had never paid more than 900k for any girl in Jakarta. In a previous post, I gave the detail of how I tried to fight it, but every time I tried to pay less than 1.5 at BATS, I ended up going home alone.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Too bad but I guess inflation is everywhere ;)

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1715652]1.5 is the going rate at BATS and CJs. Prior to the last few years, I also had never paid more than 900k for any girl in Jakarta. In a previous post, I gave the detail of how I tried to fight it, but every time I tried to pay less than 1.5 at BATS, I ended up going home alone.[/QUOTE]Prior to the last few years, the IDR was 9000 something to the dollar. Now its 12,500. What do you expect the girls to do, lower their rates so you don't have to go home alone?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1715748]Prior to the last few years, the IDR was 9000 something to the dollar. Now its 12,500. What do you expect the girls to do, lower their rates so you don't have to go home alone?[/QUOTE]But then again don't you see the ratio of girl-to-guy in BATS and CJ's? There's almost 10 girls for every monger, and a lot of them go several days without a customer. And half of the patrons aren't even looking for P4 P anyway.

It's a buyer's market and I take advantage of it. In fact, I've always got a girl for 1.000.000 (for ST) if it's near closing time and they feel I'm not desperate.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1715818]It's a buyer's market and I take advantage of it. In fact, I've always got a girl for 1.000.000 (for ST) if it's near closing time and they feel I'm not desperate.[/QUOTE]Then you could help the Smoothy guy out how you do it, unless of course he's holding out for only top quality.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1715818]But then again don't you see the ratio of girl-to-guy in BATS and CJ's? There's almost 10 girls for every monger, and a lot of them go several days without a customer. And half of the patrons aren't even looking for P4 P anyway.

It's a buyer's market and I take advantage of it. In fact, I've always got a girl for 1.000.000 (for ST) if it's near closing time and they feel I'm not desperate.[/QUOTE]How about that tall chick we met that night who refused to go for less than 2 million? I think she'd be tough to impossible to get for 1 million even at closing time. Certain girls have a high self opinion. Unfortunately, those are normally the ones I consider to be the stunners. Yes, even though there are nights where the guys outnumber the girls, that can be misleading. There are probably 5 to 10 girls to every "cash spending monger" who is looking to spend the money it takes to have sex with those girls. But the problem is that only maybe 5 to 10 girls in the entire bar are stunners and they are almost always off the market by closing time. BATS has that stupid policy now that girls can't return to the bar after they go for a short time, so the stunners who take a customer early cannot return. It's rare to have a stunner in BATS alone at closing time (did see Mayang in there the other night at closing time and I consider her to be a stunner. But she was refusing guys who were offering her less than her going rate, even at closing time. My friend tried. LOL). However, there is more possibility at CJs because the BATS girls go there after they have done their first round to see if they can get another round in. I do agree that if it's one of the girls who does not get a customer every night, there is definitely a good chance to get her for a million at closing time.

Were you with me that night I met that chick with the white skin and huge breasts? She was fairly close friends with that tall 2 million chick, and I thought she was extremely hot in CJs. I'd have rated her the best in the place that night. Awesome tits! She did not negotiate price with me up front and just came home with me when I asked her at around midnight (probably because I had been with some of the other girls and she already knew I gave those girls 1.5 - the girls do talk to each other about such matters). I was prepared to give her between 1.5 and 2 million depending on how she serviced me in the room. But I ended up giving her 1 million. The reason I gave her 1 million instead of 1.5 is that she was such a crap shag and such a pain in the room. I'll never take her again. I have no doubt she would not have gone with me in the first place if she knew I'd only give her 1 million. I have avoided CJs for a while after that because I am sure she has slandered my name for giving 1 million. LOL. But it wasn't right to give her more than that considering how horrible she was in bed.

Tonight should be interesting, I have a girl meeting me at my hotel that says she is a virgin, she is happy to suck cock and take it in the ass, but I can't enter her pussy because she wants to save her pussy for her future husband! Has anybody run into this before? Seems kind of weird, but I am a glutton for punishment so I am going to find out how it goes.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1715873]
Were you with me that night I met that chick with the white skin and huge breasts? She was fairly close friends with that tall 2 million chick, and I thought she was extremely hot in CJs. I'd have rated her the best in the place that night. Awesome tits!
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The reason I gave her 1 million instead of 1.5 is that she was such a crap shag and such a pain in the room. I'll never take her again.[/QUOTE]I am always wary of the stunners for this reason. They don't have to provide good service cause they don't rely on repeat business. There will be a new guy there the next night drooling over them. Give me a deep throating, ass begging to be pounded 6 over a starfish 8 anyday.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1715888]Tonight should be interesting, I have a girl meeting me at my hotel that says she is a virgin, she is happy to suck cock and take it in the ass, but I can't enter her pussy because she wants to save her pussy for her future husband! Has anybody run into this before? Seems kind of weird, but I am a glutton for punishment so I am going to find out how it goes.[/QUOTE]I had a girl in India like that in the past. She claimed to be a virgin as far as her pussy, but her ass was wrecked.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1715890]I had a girl in India like that in the past. She claimed to be a virgin as far as her pussy, but her ass was wrecked.[/QUOTE]Haha, this one claims to have only taken it in the ass a couple of times and seems a bit worried. If she is a total dud I suppose I will hit blok M or see if I can find a replacement on the dating sites to come to my hotel.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1715888]Tonight should be interesting, I have a girl meeting me at my hotel that says she is a virgin, she is happy to suck cock and take it in the ass, but I can't enter her pussy because she wants to save her pussy for her future husband! Has anybody run into this before? Seems kind of weird, but I am a glutton for punishment so I am going to find out how it goes.
.[/QUOTE]Met two of those in Manila. Both were in the 19/20 age range and both were committed to saving the hymen but wanted to explore their own sexuality. I enjoyed obliging. Was hoping for a third but never found one.

Any venues or Freelance providers available in the daytime? Any adviceappreciated.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1715898]Met two of those in Manila. Both were in the 19/20 age range and both were committed to saving the hymen but wanted to explore their own sexuality. I enjoyed obliging. Was hoping for a third but never found one.[/QUOTE]

Nice, I hope to get back to Manila soon, quite enjoyed my previous trips there.

It went pretty well last night. I had assumed she would have good BJ skills given the situation and I was not let down. Was quite relaxing actually, was watching TV while she did her job and knowing that nothing more was going to happen I just enjoyed the moment and when the time came let rip in her mouth. I lasted longer during the BJ than I usually do. Decided not to give it to her in the pooper, she had been a bit hesitant when we chatted beforehand and I was enjoying myself.

I don't think I would repeat this particular girl, I took her to dinner with me and she spent the whole time playing on her phone which always annoys me, but I won't run away screaming from the next girl who says I can only have her mouth or ass. Slipped her 500 k for taxi fare on the way out and slept like the proverbial baby.

[QUOTE=harryreams;1716244]Any venues or Freelance providers available in the daytime? Any adviceappreciated.[/QUOTE]This is the problem with Jakarta compared to the PI or LOS. There is almost nothing going on in the day time. It's possible to get a girl from online dating or tinder or even meeting a girl at the mall. It's also possible to line up a girl to come to your room who you have already met at a place such as Blok M or BATS during the night. However, there are no specific venues with free lancers during the day. And it's difficult to get a girl to come to your place until night time. Even if you line one up from a previous encounter. They like doing their work at night and sleeping during the day. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not the norm.