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Mick:You're right that anyone can have bad luck with a pick. I was intrigued by your suggestion to terminate the session as soon as possible, go downstairs and pick someone else. I've never had the nerve to try it, but it makes sense. Usually, you can tell pretty soon if it will be a bad session, but sometimes it takes a while---like after you're both undressed and in the tub. In general, what's the latest point at which you can termnate the session and still pick someone else?Canyon
[QUOTE=Canyon]Mick:You're right that anyone can have bad luck with a pick. I was intrigued by your suggestion to terminate the session as soon as possible, go downstairs and pick someone else. I've never had the nerve to try it, but it makes sense. Usually, you can tell pretty soon if it will be a bad session, but sometimes it takes a while---like after you're both undressed and in the tub. In general, what's the latest point at which you can termnate the session and still pick someone else?Canyon[/QUOTE]You might have misunderstood. I paid for the 2nd session as well. But I would rather waste some extra money and leave with a good feeling than than be grumpy.My time is usually more precious than the money, so if the girl is doing badly I have terminated well before full time so that I can get a different girl without delay.At a very expensive place, I wouldn't get another girl. I would probably move to a cheaper venue.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker] ...I would rather waste some extra money and leave with a good feeling than than be grumpy...[/QUOTE]To each his own, I suppose, but I would continue on with the session until it expired, all the while trying in a friendly manner to get the girl to do at least a decent job. I might have to leave grumpy, however, when we're talking about a couple thousand baht, wasting that kind of extra money would make me leave with a bad feeling anyway, i.e., very grumpy indeed.
Mick, I did misunderstand you. I thought that if you terminated early, they would give you a session with another girl free of charge. I didn't realize you had to pay for the second session as well. When I first started visiting soapies about seven years ago, I found that about 25% of my sessions were mediocre because I picked the wrong girl. Aboout 30% were wonderful and the rest were pretty good. I wanted to reduce the number of the mediocre sessions, so I tried two things. First, I took my time picking the girl and only chose ones that responded positively to me from the fishbowl, i.e. they smiled, made eye contact, looked interesting, waved (but not too much), laughed, etc. This helped reduce the number of poor performances. The other thing that I found useful was talking to the girl for a few minutes before proceeding to the room. At Tarawadee, Nataree, J-1, Poseidon, Emmanuelle, Amsterdam and others, they let me have 15 minutes to talk with the girl before I make a decision. Usually, I never need more than five minutes to decide. These two things have reduced my mediocre sessions to around 5-7%. I haven't eliminated them entirely, but they are now down to an acceptable level. One difficulty is that it's hard to refuse the girl after talking with her. One time, I talked with a girl, discovered she was not right for me, but I didn't have the nerve to send her back because she was so nice. We went to the room and it was a terrible session. I couldn't even come. I went next door and picked another girl. The second girl was beautiful and gave me great service, but I still couldn't come---even with her. The experience with the previous girl had so unnerved me that I couldn't function sexually. Sex, of course, is as much a psychological function as it is a physical function. From that day on, I stopped being a coward. Whenever I talk with a girl who I discover is not right for me, but who's very nice and wants to go with me, I screw up my courage by thinking about the terrible time I had with the girl from the past that I didn't send back. That stiffens my backbone every time. Sometimes, I'll pick another girl in the same establishment, but other times, I'll leave and go elsewhere. Either I'm embarrassed or I don't want the girl to lose face by picking one of her co-workers. One time, I felt so bad about not choosing a very nice girl, I faked a stomach ache, said I didn't feel well and left. Another thing I've done is tell the papasan that he'll get a tip if the service is good. I'll pick three or four girls that look interesting, then ask the papasan for his comments on each one. This has worked reasonably well. I never tip the papasan upfront. Of course, if you know the papasan and are a repeat customer, he'll usually steer you in the right direction. Even with a papasan I know, I don't always get a wonderful experience, but I have never received a mediocre one.
[QUOTE=Canyon]Another thing I've done is tell the papasan that he'll get a tip if the service is good. I'll pick three or four girls that look interesting, then ask the papasan for his comments on each one. This has worked reasonably well. I never tip the papasan upfront. Of course, if you know the papasan and are a repeat customer, he'll usually steer you in the right direction. Even with a papasan I know, I don't always get a wonderful experience, but I have never received a mediocre one.[/QUOTE]I think this is good advice. You can't let the papasan choose for you but you can be influenced to some degree and its best if his good tip is dependent on good advice.I'm not sure I can always choose the right girl from talking to them. I have met a couple who were tremendously good fun to talk to but still lousy on the bed. And in contrast I have had an incredibly good time with a girl who looked disinterested in the line up (maybe was in her own little world somewhere else).All I can really say is that I avoid girls who make ugly faces when talking to their friends and also avoid girls who seem to be acting fake or too excited.
After my disappointing visit to Nataree ( I will take your advises and go a little earlier next time and will take my time to make a selection ) I visited Tullip again and picked up Ben . She is also in the small size and here tits were to small for my taste . After the shower all the usual, BBBJ, some rimming a lots of ball licking and the sex , didn't try anal thinking she would give me a second round. she gave me a very nice and long oil massage till I realize that the time was over . A little disappointed that she escaped from second round . Any recommendations on a girl from Nataree that has exceptional service will be appreciated guys.
Went recently to Angels soi 26, had a session with an Angel :)I was really impressed (despite the fake boobs), by the end of the session, she repeatedly said would like me to choose her again, even talked about the possibility of booking previously.I really want to repeat, but after a close inspection to their website, a part of me would like to buterfly one or two times, soon i will leave Thailand, and might be a chance lost forever.By other side, it really annoys me to be choosing a new girl if she is there, we all have talked about the "girl losing her face", but i wonder if thats really true or a kind of bullshit ?If buterflying in Angels is not so correct, still have the rest of parlours in Bangkok to buterfly.ThanksMonteCristo
[QUOTE=Montecristo]Went recently to Angels soi 26, had a session with an Angel :)I was really impressed (despite the fake boobs), by the end of the session, she repeatedly said would like me to choose her again, even talked about the possibility of booking previously.I really want to repeat, but after a close inspection to their website, a part of me would like to buterfly one or two times, soon i will leave Thailand, and might be a chance lost forever.By other side, it really annoys me to be choosing a new girl if she is there, we all have talked about the "girl losing her face", but i wonder if thats really true or a kind of bullshit ?If buterflying in Angels is not so correct, still have the rest of parlours in Bangkok to buterfly.ThanksMonteCristo[/QUOTE]I prefer to butterfly ar other establishments if I have developed a "favourite". If the favourite is not there I might choose someone else. Repeating helps me to keep a "special" relationship with the girl.If I have no favourite any longer, then I will butterfly.Others will disagree, but I reckon I get more GFEs this way.Now if you have found another girl at Angel26 that you simply must have, then be prepared for the 1st girl to "cool off" a little (but they are used to this sort of thing happening).
[QUOTE=Canyon]Mick, I did misunderstand you. I thought that if you terminated early, they would give you a session with another girl free of charge. I didn't realize you had to pay for the second session as well. When I first started visiting soapies about seven years ago, I found that about 25% of my sessions were mediocre because I picked the wrong girl. Aboout 30% were wonderful and the rest were pretty good. I wanted to reduce the number of the mediocre sessions, so I tried two things. First, I took my time picking the girl and only chose ones that responded positively to me from the fishbowl, i.e. they smiled, made eye contact, looked interesting, waved (but not too much), laughed, etc. This helped reduce the number of poor performances. The other thing that I found useful was talking to the girl for a few minutes before proceeding to the room. At Tarawadee, Nataree, J-1, Poseidon, Emmanuelle, Amsterdam and others, they let me have 15 minutes to talk with the girl before I make a decision. Usually, I never need more than five minutes to decide. These two things have reduced my mediocre sessions to around 5-7%. I haven't eliminated them entirely, but they are now down to an acceptable level. One difficulty is that it's hard to refuse the girl after talking with her. One time, I talked with a girl, discovered she was not right for me, but I didn't have the nerve to send her back because she was so nice. We went to the room and it was a terrible session. I couldn't even come. I went next door and picked another girl. The second girl was beautiful and gave me great service, but I still couldn't come---even with her. The experience with the previous girl had so unnerved me that I couldn't function sexually. Sex, of course, is as much a psychological function as it is a physical function. From that day on, I stopped being a coward. Whenever I talk with a girl who I discover is not right for me, but who's very nice and wants to go with me, I screw up my courage by thinking about the terrible time I had with the girl from the past that I didn't send back. That stiffens my backbone every time. Sometimes, I'll pick another girl in the same establishment, but other times, I'll leave and go elsewhere. Either I'm embarrassed or I don't want the girl to lose face by picking one of her co-workers. One time, I felt so bad about not choosing a very nice girl, I faked a stomach ache, said I didn't feel well and left. Another thing I've done is tell the papasan that he'll get a tip if the service is good. I'll pick three or four girls that look interesting, then ask the papasan for his comments on each one. This has worked reasonably well. I never tip the papasan upfront. Of course, if you know the papasan and are a repeat customer, he'll usually steer you in the right direction. Even with a papasan I know, I don't always get a wonderful experience, but I have never received a mediocre one.[/QUOTE]Umm... although the girls in the fishbowl look like they can see out, it's really one-way glass isn't it? They can't make eye-contact with you, can they?I mean, I've never been a fishbowl girl so I don't know for sure but that's what they tell me.Also, how many people here tip the papasan or mamasan at MPs? I've done it in a bar, when they've been really helpful, and even then I think the money would be better spent on the girl, but never at an MP. Should I be tipping the papasan?
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]P.S. The body slide skill can vary a lot, but I have never had one that bad I think. Can ask who gives exceptional body slide I guess or who is powerful.Very petite girls may be too weak to give good body slides but I have had some wonderful exceptions. Petite but strong is O.K.[/QUOTE]Oin, at Nataree.
Bangindhi, I saw few stunning babes on Angel's web page, I'm visiting BKK next month, any forum member has experienced Angel SOI 26 babes, any hot babe in particular.Please Share
[QUOTE=Startrek]Bangindhi, I saw few stunning babes on Angel's web page, I'm visiting BKK next month, any forum member has experienced Angel SOI 26 babes, any hot babe in particular.Please Share[/QUOTE]Click on "Search this Thread"Then enter:Angel+26 and do a searchAlso try (to cover variations in spelling):Angels+26 Angel26That should give you a pretty good list of experiences to start with (although not covering very new girls).
[QUOTE=Washburn]Umm... although the girls in the fishbowl look like they can see out, it's really one-way glass isn't it? They can't make eye-contact with you, can they?I mean, I've never been a fishbowl girl so I don't know for sure but that's what they tell me.Also, how many people here tip the papasan or mamasan at MPs? I've done it in a bar, when they've been really helpful, and even then I think the money would be better spent on the girl, but never at an MP. Should I be tipping the papasan?[/QUOTE]When I first went to Bangkok, someone told me that the girls could not see out because there was one-way glass. In seven years of visiting soapies, I've only been in one where the girls could not see out. If you stand next to the glass, they can almost always see you. If you stand away from the glass, it's hard for them to see you, because it's darker outside than inside the fishbowl, because the fishbowl lights are brighter. When I pick a girl, I always stand close to the glass, so I can get a good look. The girls can see me, and I always get some kind of reaction from them. The ones I've had the most success with are ones that make eye contact with me, smile and look interested without waving and gesturing wildly. I avoid both those who have no reaction to me and those who are trying too hard to get my attention.In the early years, I never tipped the papasan. Later on, I found that tipping could help, but I never tip up-front. I tell the papasan I will tip him if I like the girl's service and his comments are accurate. I always keep my end of the bargain by tipping him if I get really good service. That also helps the next time I come in. The papasan will try hard to recommend a girl who will give you good service. I don't ask for a recommendation per se, but I will pick three or so girls that I like, then ask for comments from the papasan on each one. I would recommend you try this because it's worked well for me. You don't have to tip a lot. My range is 200-300 baht.
[QUOTE=Startrek]Bangindhi, I saw few stunning babes on Angel's web page, I'm visiting BKK next month, any forum member has experienced Angel SOI 26 babes, any hot babe in particular.Please Share[/QUOTE]Sadly, my #1 fav there (miss Donut) has gone... back home.Hopefully her money will run out in a few months adn she'll be back LOL (Am I evil?)
[QUOTE=Washburn]Umm... although the girls in the fishbowl look like they can see out, it's really one-way glass isn't it? They can't make eye-contact with you, can they?I mean, I've never been a fishbowl girl so I don't know for sure but that's what they tell me.Also, how many people here tip the papasan or mamasan at MPs? I've done it in a bar, when they've been really helpful, and even then I think the money would be better spent on the girl, but never at an MP. Should I be tipping the papasan?[/QUOTE]Washburn,They can see you, some do make eye contact (sometimes a good sign), they do and will smile at you in some cases, and sometimes laugh if you do something silly or out of the ordinary (like go near the glass and drool!). ;)I can't say that the tipping of the papasan'smamasan's help at all. I have not had better experiences when I did in my early days and have not done it in years. My suggestion would be to keep your money and tip the girls for great service. They do all the work. Maybe others may feel different.AT2