Monterrey

[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]No punishment intended...I have simply decided that reporting anything serves me absolutely no purpose, and I will not have this guy, or any like him, following me around MTY picking up my crumbs. I put too much work into my girls just to have the likes of someone like him following me around, fucking up my world. But, consider this, he not only fucks up my world, he fucks with every single one of you on here by showing these girls our "TRADE SECRETS." His contribution is a pock on mongering, and his betrayal only serves to illustrate why I am choosing not to post anything of substantive value in the future. Mastermind has betrayed the trust of every single member of ISG for the sole purpose of getting even with my articulating my own perspectives and preferences.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you on this one. You will not read any details of the girls I get outstanding service from. Service I have worked hard to get, and want to keep getting it.
Sure these girls are hookers, sure they are just working for the money and will fuck just about anyone that will pay them. But if some effort is put forth a guy can work himself into a preferred client status, someone the girl enjoys being with and she will go out of her way to show it.

The way that I see it.

1. Personal attacks are not allowed and what MasterMind has done doesn't belong on the Board. Jackson should have never allowed it. Or at least edited it.

2. These "investigative reports" are totally meaningless. Is MM that naive (I am being nice here) to think that he can a honest answer out of one these girls about a "customer" or a friend of theirs? Wow. MM must be the coolest operator in the World. He should join the CIA, they could use his "great" gift. If he is this good in getting answers, he needs to quit his job and do investigative work, I can him lots of work. Anyone who has ANY experience KNOWs that this type of behavior is a JOKE but a a mean spirited joke. I bet if a trusted person, who has known G for years would ask her about him, she would report something very negative. Why does MM assume these girls are idiots? USB, I bet G knows MM's attitude about her. How can you hide the attitude when you call them hos?

3. On the other hand, remember one of the rules of good propaganda; mix truth with lies. So where is the lie and the truth? So he went down there and had some fun. But the rest?

[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]No punishment intended...I have simply decided that reporting anything serves me absolutely no purpose, and I will not have this guy, or any like him, following me around MTY picking up my crumbs. I put too much work into my girls just to have the likes of someone like him following me around, fucking up my world. But, consider this, he not only fucks up my world, he fucks with every single one of you on here by showing these girls our "TRADE SECRETS." His contribution is a pock on mongering, and his betrayal only serves to illustrate why I am choosing not to post anything of substantive value in the future. Mastermind has betrayed the trust of every single member of ISG for the sole purpose of getting even with my articulating my own perspectives and preferences, and to possibly curry favor with a girl he refers to as a ho, but treats like a girlfriend. I never showed ISG to my "g" girl, nor would I have ever done so. There is simply a code of honor, and while some believe me to be stingy with my information, using the metaphors, etc..., I never used ISG against anyone, or to curry favor with one of my girls. And, the issue at hand for Jackson is whether by allowing his posts to stand, it serves the overall good of ISG. How many of you feel comfortable posting anything of substantive detail at this juncture?[/QUOTE]

Day 1: Entered El Ceilo looking for my regular. Her name is Paloma. Not there. Waiter, Jamie, recommended a new girl named Gracia. I passed and sipped on my drink watching the girls dance. None looked worth even speaking to until this hot hot hot girl got up to do her act on stage. The Wasted radar registered 10. Told Jamie to bring her to me when she’s done.

This is where being a regular pays off. As she stepped of the stage, there was the usual lineup of assholes waiting for her to take her upstairs to do nasty stuff to her. But my faithful waiter whispered to the big dude and she was hand-delivered to my table.

Her skin was smooth. Firm body and the cutest face. She is very playful and reached her hand into my gringo Old Navy shorts to shake hands with Johnny who was just as enchanted to meet her. Turns out her name was ….. Gracia.

I did not waste anytime and asked Jaime to arrange for a salida. Now in other clubs, they would ask me for an ID and hotel info. But not me, not at El Cielo. In addition to the ID and payment process, the girls usually take up to 30 minutes to get dressed for the outing. Not Gracia. She was down in 5. This is good and bad. It is good so I will not waste time waiting but bad because it means she did not take a shower. Not a problem thu. I do not mind showering the girls myself. It’s a dirty job but somebody’s gotta do it.

When we got to the Otel Plaza Del Arco, I usually take the side door to avoid the walk of shame we all know and dread. But as luck would have it, I have been out most of the day and my room cardkey needed to be renewed. This is one of the things I hate about PDA. You need to scan your room key daily. So I ended up at the front desk with Gracia, Oh so hot Gracia, with her mini skirt. She sat down to wait for me while I too waited my turn to be serviced at the front desk. There was a group in front of me checking in. Gracia sat on a circular couch that is in the center of the lobby. It has a column right smack in the center and then some more decoration on top, which makes the lobby look like a casing or a housing with a folic symbol. In other words, the PDA looks like they have a big dick in the center of their lobby. Here, check it out: [url]http://www.proximahoteles.com/Imagenes/LobbyPda01.JPG[/url]

So anyways, I did not realize how short Gracia’s skirt was until she sat down. Here I am with a hooker who is also dressed like on. I usually pay attention to such minor details but this girl had my mind under the covers already and my head was not thinking until I saw her hot damn hot legs. This girl’s got legs. I guess she also knows how to use them.

Finally in my room. Now the dreadful task of showering this girl. OK fine. I’ll give you a nice shower. I always pack some fancy body wash with me just for the girls. If you add fragrance to a sexy hot body, you get.. what? Anyone? Anyone? Nibu? A hard on.

In the shower, I go for the main wash points. Back, underarms nick … and then take my time cleansing the front and back doors while nibbling on the upper lumps. The front door is clean and ready for delivery. The backdoor must always be inspected. This will give me an early indication if I am in for a treat or not. If I do it right, the girl will either enjoy it, tell you to be gentle or simply give you the ‘get the fuck out of here’ notion. She gave me the “despacito, por fa vor”…. Woohoo .. this is going to be a lovely night.

But wait, I would be a fool if I did not get my extras while in the shower. Without full penetration, I let her massage her clit with my rod while I hug her from behind. She started to moan with pleasure. Now I know acting from real, but when the girl gets goose pumps on her ass and thighs, that is not acting. The goose pumps spread rapidly all over her body when Johnny found his way to her colo. That girl was tight and I could tell she was torn between pleasure and pain.

After I towel-dried her upper body, she picked up a fresh towel and started to dry me. She noticed my erection and must have felt sorry for me or she did not want to wait until we got out of the shower. She got down on her knees and made BIG Johnny disappear completely. Where’s Johnny? Her nick was swollen with tight grip and major suction power. She let Johnny come out for air a couple of times but Johnny did not need any air. Johnny needed to be squeezed.

I gathered enough control to pull Johnny out of her throat and did not care if we were still half wet. I carried Gracia back to my bed and laid her towel under us because I knew there would be a mess. She took out her herbs and we fogged up the room with 420. Heaven? Paradise? Ecstasy? Euphoric? Yes, all of the above. This girl came well prepared with her c-size and round firm ass in addition to the perfect smooth-shaved box? What else? Soft firm skin? Beautiful face? Sweet smile? Excellent personality? I could not ask for anything more. Now she tops it all with spices? I think I landed the mother load.

Action starts with us setting up facing each other. She looked me in the eye as she grabbed my dick while I reached for her clit. This little foreplay turned out to be one of the hottest tease sessions I have ever had. The 420 does miracles when accompanied by other candies. You would think this girl had not had sex in years. No she was not acting. Gracia cannot act the goose pumps. She was very intense and I could see it in her face building up to the ultimate orgasm. Don’t know about other men, but watching a girl’s face react during sex is one major turn on. Then you can tell when a girl is being pleasured by the way she grabs my dick. The hand action was getting hotter and hotter every passing second. Her clitoris was getting firmer and her pussy even wetter. That sweet nectar dripping out of her pussy accompanied by an aroused clit topped by her hand caressing my dick sent me to a high worth a million Canadian dollars.

It did not take long, or so it seems, for Gracia to reach the ultimate climax. I kept telling myself that this girl must be my imaginary chica. There is no way this can be true. Her clit got so hard and her face started to frown. (the right word escapes me). She caressed my dick firmer and I could swear my head was about to explode. Her orgasm must have last an entire minute. Again, her face, her clit, her juice and her hand on my dick gauge it all. She was sweating ever so gently. What amazed me about her is that she smelled great. I wanted to eat her but too late.

Can things get any hotter? Of course they can when she slowly guided my finger away from her clit and into the soft firm center of her colo. I get it; she wants to go take a dump … ha ha .. no you idiot .. Snap out of it .. She wants you in her ass.

I laid her on her back and I positioned myself diagonally so that my dick can say hello to her butt. Sweet gorgeous butt. And I worked my way in ever so slowly watching her facial reaction with every push I made driving Johnny deeper and deeper. Her sweet juice worked perfect as an butt lubricant I did not need my ky. She reached down and grabbed my hand. She had me massage her clitoris while she was sucking my other hand. One finger at a time. Which reminded me. I did not get a blow job? Of course I did. I’m too lazy to go back and edit this report but she is great with her lips, throat and tongue. This would be the second blowjob after the one she gave me in t he shower.

Gracia was 18 years old. I would like to think she is not a hardened pro from the sound of her moans. But who knows? She certainly did not come across as a pro but rather a girl having a hell of time getting screwed by Wasted.

When I was just about to blow my load, she pulled back and moved away from me. I gave her the benefit of the doubt and did not react but watched to see what she was about to do. She gets out of bed and moves to the other side where I was laying. Still do not understand why she had to get up. She gets on top of me and played a little before she positioned herself on top of Johnny. As she inserted Johnny in her, she released a child-like moan that gave me chills. Pleasure chills. Eye-to-eye, she rode me very very slowly tightening her grip on my Johnny as she went up, releasing, then tightening again as she went down. I closed my eyes for 2 seconds but could not take it. The pleasure was intense. To my surprise, the reached for the herbs and we lit up another round of 420. This time, it felt like I had 2 girls in my bed. One riding me and another massaging my juevos. Weird but climatic. Then a 3rd imaginary chica joined us and stuck her finger up my ass. Hot damm little momma. Make sure you use one finger and only one finger.

When a man is about to explode, if you let it rip as it comes, it would be 100 times stronger if you hold it and hold it and hold it and hold it and hold it until the your back and legs muscles ache. A pleasurable pain you cannot put into words. I could swear my head must’ve exploded. It took me good full minute to release my load. I could feel the cum ready to shoot out but there was at least 5 seconds between the time I contract to shoot and the time I actually released. 3 shots and I was drained but the sensation did not fade at all and I kept shooting empty bullets although it felt like a fresh load every shot.

We were both drenched in sweat. We took a 10-minute snoozer cuddling and spooning. She still smelled great and I was tempted to take a bit but wizened up and settled for squeezing every inch of her luscious body with gentle ass fingering. Still in a daze from my release, she gently pulled me out of bed and gave me a nice cool shower that was just what I needed to get back to reality.

I walked her back to El Ceilo. She did not change. She stayed in her short skirt and whatever top she had on, I forgot, and sat with me. The mother fucker clients did not waste time sending waiters to my table telling her they want to see her. She would not leave me. She rested her head on my lap and rubbed my inner thighs inside my short while I sipped on my drink and smoked the most delicious cigarette.

I stayed until closing time, 5 am, and said goodbye to Gracia for the first and last time.

I never saw her again.

Wasted

Indeed Dr.Brew... you will have fun here in Mty.


[QUOTE=DrBrew1]I will be making my first trip to Mty. Dec 6th to Dec 9th and after reading the forum I think I have enough information to have a good time. I hope to make it down to Mty at least 4 times per year because I think it probably has more potential for me than any other city in Mexico. I can't wait.[/QUOTE]

Wow! Are you a writer. Print or film? This is great. You should make a movie, or at least some great scenes for one.

So I assume that you rate this girl a 9.9999999999999999999?

[QUOTE=Wastedgman]Day 1: Entered El Ceilo looking for my regular. Her name is Paloma. Not there. Waiter, cigarette.

I stayed until closing time, 5 am, and said goodbye to Gracia for the first and last time.

I never saw her again.

Wasted[/QUOTE]

hey mj,

no man, i am not being a smart alec. i never even met this alec dude :-)

did you check out the big dick in the lobby of the pda? i am surprised no one had said anything about it before.

besides, i am waiting for my
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wasted

[quote=mill just]nice report, wasted! much better and more informative than, "i miss my x girl because she sang a song to me at the table last time." too much info is better than too little. :)

i know you are trying to be a smart alec, but don't you think a message board about helping others find a good working girl should actually be about, well, finding a good working girl?

if you're getting great service from some chica, yippeee for you, but if you don't wish to share any details, then keep your mouth shut and bask in the glow of your conquests while pming your personal buddies about how cool you are.

we don't need (or want) to know every detail about your mongering, but some details would be nice. you, personally, used to post some great trip reports, but then the whole "my girl, your girl" crap got into your head. now it's all about patting yourself on your back and posting pm messages on a public forum. i thought that's what uno's section was about...

c'mon, snap out of it, man and get back to being the real wasted and not uno jr. (sorry, uno)[/quote]

you know? i was contemplating posting a sizzling hot photo of sexy x for all to see and understand why i am gaga over her. i showed it to carlos he agreed it would probably make the #1 photo on the isg. mind you that i am also in the picture. sexy x is 110% sexy, she just turned 19 and thinks the world of wasted.

now imagine if i posted her name and photo to share with my fellow mongers and this idiot showed that photo to her.

mj, i kid you not, i sat in coffee shops and bars with some of the girls after hours. we shared tables with high-ranking officers in some occasions and we shared tables with high-ranking tambourine men in others. did you ever have a bodyguard guarding the bathroom for you while you go relieve yourself? i was not bs’ing when i said those girls could do things with a whisper. i was talking from 1st hand knowledge. i had guards wipe the crapper seat for me and stand guard while i took care of business…. think about it.

you may not have seen this or it may not be as bad in your backyard. but monterrey, for those who look for it, has a wild wild west side to it that would make your hair grey. one of the girls i took up as my steady knocked out a huge dude at one bar and broke windows and then took out a security guard all in one round. carlos can vouch for this story. she ended up spending her birthday in jail.

like hell i am giving out names for some idiot to go asking for these girls and show them that “i” told. if i were a one-time visitor to monterrey, then fine. i will leave a path of destruction for all to follow. but i am a regular and i know every single girl in the clubs i frequent. i am even able to steal girls from carlos. the poor guy has to hide them from me and skip seeing his favorite girls when i’m in town. new club girls are introduced to me for my approval. girls bleed with me to take them out to my hotel or out clubbing with the girls. how many of us mongers do out with 10 girls at a time? how many of us need 3 rooms at pda to accommodate the girls? how many of us have girls showing up at infinito asking for them? the poor security dudes scratch their heads wondering what the hell i am doing setting with 10 infinito girls and three knockout gorgeous ones are asking for me outside.

so much i cannot talk about that the girls know and can land me in a ditch somewhere. i am not one to travel thousands of miles just to go set next to a girl in a bar.

to tell you the truth, i would much rather monopolies monterrey. the city is so beautiful and has so much to offer that it would be a shame to have someone like that idiot enjoy it. he is not worthy of enjoying it nor is he worthy of knowing where to go and whom to see.

then again, this is just i venting out my reaction to a single stupid post by a narrow-minded idiot. please forgive.

wasted

Tell me one thing Mill.... I believe you have favoritas down in Morelia.
Real favoritas you favor, that treat you well, far and beyond the regular treatment a regular monger gets.

Would you like this favorita of yours to be groped in front of you by a visitor from out of town that contacted you via the ISG?.
Wouldn't you feel betrayed if this favorita said "yes" to an indescent proposal by said outsider?

That is what I felt, breifly felt, when Wasted attacked one of my former girlfriends... Iam still friends with her, but she is too mercenary, too "go for the money" kind to feel angry that a turncoat I once thought was a friend (aka Wasted) robbed her from me.

No... just kidding.
But really, I do have 2 girls I would be very dissapointed if they accepted any monetery offer from my friends from the US.
That is why, I have never introduced them to him... he's TOO DAMN DANGEROUS.

USB and Round the World know them both.

Sorry Wasted.





[QUOTE=Mill Just]Then, with all due respect, you should seriously re-consider whether the ISG is the right place for you or if you'd rather just get a private yahoo group and chat with your buddies. I like to share info and give my brothas some help and a heads up. The moment I stop caring about the others and feel that I am above it all, that's the moment I'd need to get packing. May I suggest: MySpace/wasted

And what happened to your atonement for your "sins?" ;)

P.S. And don't get me wrong, Mastermind IS an idiot.[/QUOTE]

You almost gave me a heart attack. First part of your post got me thinking of what a bad person I am. Man. I am so sorry. If you feel anything like I do for these girls, then I apologize with all my heart and I promise I will never ever repeat this hideous act again. You have my word on it. I was so blind.

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]That is what I felt, briefly felt, when Wasted attacked one of my former girlfriends... I am still friends with her, but she is too mercenary, too "go for the money" kind to feel angry that a turncoat I once thought was a friend (aka Wasted) robbed her from me.

No... just kidding.
[/QUOTE]

But on this second half. Thanks man. I appreciate the complement. And MJ, do you see how dangerous Wasted can be? ...

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]
That is why, I have never introduced them to him... he's TOO DAMN DANGEROUS.

USB and Round the World know them both.

Sorry Wasted.[/QUOTE]
just kidding kids. Go back to your seats and let the keyboard get some rest. There is nothing to see here.

Wasted.

Let's see how this comes out ... this is the first time I split quotes like MJ does.

Mill:
Another thing.
Everyone that comes to Monterrey gets out full attention, our full help.
We might be a little reserved in the public forum, but for those that have the advantage of the PM system that the ISG offers, we go a little further.
I know as a fact that many people have contacted USB and he has gone the extra mile to help them out, giving them clubs, names, locations...
So have I when they contact me.

We also motivate the mongers that come down here to make personal contact.

There has been no monger that has made contact with any of us that has left the city without having the best of times.
Face to face, there are no holds barred, no name withhelding... only the best for the visitor.

That will be exactly the same treatment you'll get when you come up here to Monterrey... First girls I'll point out to you will be Wasted's... and mine too (mine are better than his).




[QUOTE=Mill Just]Then, with all due respect, you should seriously re-consider whether the ISG is the right place for you or if you'd rather just get a private yahoo group and chat with your buddies. I like to share info and give my brothas some help and a heads up. The moment I stop caring about the others and feel that I am above it all, that's the moment I'd need to get packing. May I suggest: MySpace/wasted

And what happened to your atonement for your "sins?" ;)

P.S. And don't get me wrong, Mastermind IS an idiot.[/QUOTE]

Thank you Carlos. I was fixing to write something similar. I also think the new comers have a blast watching the characters of this dumb idiotic thread hunt.

No, I am not bragging but I get to hear a lot of comments from people we meet from this board. I’ll let Mr. Q and RTW comment if they want to participate in this aimless debate that will win us peace on earth. What the hell am I saying?

Yes, Mil, you said it before many times and I liked your attitude. When you go to Monterrey, you can let yourself loose on the girls I see and I will even give you their names and tell you how to push which buttons.

Don't bother with Carlos' girls, they are big, fat and ugly....

Sorry Carlos.


[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Mill:
Another thing.
Everyone that comes to Monterrey gets out full attention, our full help.
We might be a little reserved in the public forum, but for those that have the advantage of the PM system that the ISG offers, we go a little further.
I know as a fact that many people have contacted USB and he has gone the extra mile to help them out, giving them clubs, names, locations...
So have I when they contact me.

We also motivate the mongers that come down here to make personal contact.

There has been no monger that has made contact with any of us that has left the city without having the best of times.
Face to face, there are no holds barred, no name withhelding... only the best for the visitor.

That will be exactly the same treatment you'll get when you come up here to Monterrey... First girls I'll point out to you will be Wasted's... and mine too (mine are better than his).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Tell me one thing Mill.... I believe you have favoritas down in Morelia.
Real favoritas you favor, that treat you well, far and beyond the regular treatment a regular monger gets.

Would you like this favorita of yours to be groped in front of you by a visitor from out of town that contacted you via the ISG?.
Wouldn't you feel betrayed if this favorita said "yes" to an indescent proposal by said outsider? [/QUOTE]

I have no problem with sharing my favoritas as you would've known if you could've made it to the festival. There have been a few times when I've set one of my favoritas up with a friend. After all, they are working girls and, besides, with my history with my favoritas, I know that my buddies wouldn't be getting the same quality of service that I would. So...grope away and make all the indecent proposals you like. They are my favorite HOOKERS, they are not my real girlfriends. Bros before Ho's, right?

There is no chica in any mongering atmosphere that can make me feel betrayed. Betrayal is only a betrayal when you have some sort of vested, romantic interest in a particular chica. Again, there is no chica who is exclusively mine or yours...all are fair game. And if I have that special someone who I never wish to share? Well, she never gets mentioned in the ISG because what would be the purpose of mentioning someone and lording her over the other guys' heads when I have no intention to share her great service with others. ?

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez] Mill:
Another thing.
Everyone that comes to Monterrey gets out full attention, our full help.
We might be a little reserved in the public forum, but for those that have the advantage of the PM system that the ISG offers, we go a little further.
I know as a fact that many people have contacted USB and he has gone the extra mile to help them out, giving them clubs, names, locations...
So have I when they contact me.

We also motivate the mongers that come down here to make personal contact.

There has been no monger that has made contact with any of us that has left the city without having the best of times.
Face to face, there are no holds barred, no name withhelding... only the best for the visitor.[/QUOTE]

But you miss the point...a guy shouldn't HAVE TO meet with you in person in order to get any info. Some guys are lone hunters and don't want to meet up with other guys. Respect that. Not any one person is bigger than the ISG as a whole. It's not fair to set things up in a way that would make guys come crawling to you in order to get some real info. That's where I think the egos get carried away in here. Info should be readily available for all to access. Sometimes assholes access the info, but mostly real cool dudes who want what we want benefit from our info.

I guess my gripe is that you guys act like you ARE the ISG and all must grovel personally at your feet in order to get anything close to specifics. Like my first grade teacher told me many, many years ago, "You can't MAKE the other kids be your friends..."

You know what? Now that I look back at it, I think IT IS a nice piece of work if I may say so myself.

Mill, I want to make sure you understand me clearly: I consider you one of only a couple of decent men on this board. You are a straight shooter with style. I love to read your posts, like I said before, regardless of the horse manure we have been going through here. I hate horse manure.

I don't know why this thread has come to be control, if I can use this word, by a couple of guys and will not provide information in the manner you are referring to. Maybe, and I am not pointing to anyone, maybe we have a little bit of decency and we find publishing such info is somehow inappropriate.

I too always volunteer my favorites to my friends. I have no issue with that whatsoever. Matter of act, if I go to a club with a friend, if a new girls joins me and I think she’s worth having around, I pass her on to my friend and will wait for the following catch.

You are correct; this is not how things are run around here. But maybe Monterrey and the Monterrey regulars see things differently. I don't know. Am I to face the judge and the jury because I see things differently?

Wasted


[QUOTE=Whome69]Wow! Are you a writer. Print or film? This is great. You should make a movie, or at least some great scenes for one.

So I assume that you rate this girl a 9.9999999999999999999?[/QUOTE]

Mill:
I just stated a fact, an intent, not a rule.
Of course there are many that come to Mty and don't make contact at all.
I always watch them from my seat at the clubs.
How do I know some are mongers? Cause they have the give-aways: some are new to town, but some how land at the "special" clubs like the Infinito or the lunch buffets at the 5 star clubs.
And some boast of reading about the clubs to the girls somewhere in the WWW.
I always try to nullify those thoughts as in "The Web??? what the hell is that???... or must be some stupid chat board".

And then there are many that I just don't care how they fare as long as they are not ripped off.

Mill, you are in the "Friends" list... believe it or not, I've been priming the girls for "that gringo from Morelia... he'll come one day".

Mill... have you read, for example, the SA boards? the SEA boards? here at the ISG???? The postings go more or less like this: "I fucked a girl who's name I don't remember.... I fucked Ana (a dime a dozen name at all clubs)... I paid bar fine for excellent fuck Tanya (which would be boasting, cause the rest of the monger either they won't find a girl under that name or the moner is boasting acts that never came to be).... have you checked "other forums" where guys say they "fucked a door girl who's name I don't remember, but she is the one standing 3rd door from the corner"?????
Or the Border Town threads where posters just name a "I found a nice SW that gave me BBBJ... sorry but I don't recall the name".... "I couldn't find Elsa, but I found a cute 18 year old that gave me a BB (no name given)".
Or the Colombia Mansion threads where mongers just mention a great fuck and no names???? or names of girls that are not there when others go looking for them????
Go to the Bogota, Colombia thread... tell me how many names of chicas are mentioned (just 2 on the first page, and vague descriptions, no specifics)... just tell me how much valid information if thrown around for the monger to read beyond the weather report.
The Thai reports: "A beautiful girl aproached me..." "I fucked a nice 18 year old from a bar filled with tons of girls"...
The China mainland reports: "I can't mention the name"... "I met her somewhere"....

And so on.... and so on.

I have read tons of leading and misleading posts everywhere of mongers that just don't care for the name of the girl or just post a "sui generis" name that does not coincied with reallity cause they don't care for the girl... they just care for themselves.
And GOOD FOR THEM!!!
Let them act as they want.

That does not happen here.... we try to help the guys reading this Thread.








[QUOTE=Mill Just]I have no problem with sharing my favoritas as you would've known if you could've made it to the festival. There have been a few times when I've set one of my favoritas up with a friend. After all, they are working girls and, besides, with my history with my favoritas, I know that my buddies wouldn't be getting the same quality of service that I would. So...grope away and make all the indecent proposals you like. They are my favorite HOOKERS, they are not my real girlfriends. Bros before Ho's, right?

There is no chica in any mongering atmosphere that can make me feel betrayed. Betrayal is only a betrayal when you have some sort of vested, romantic interest in a particular chica. Again, there is no chica who is exclusively mine or yours...all are fair game. And if I have that special someone who I never wish to share? Well, she never gets mentioned in the ISG because what would be the purpose of mentioning someone and lording her over the other guys' heads when I have no intention to share her great service with others. ?



But you miss the point...a guy shouldn't HAVE TO meet with you in person in order to get any info. Some guys are lone hunters and don't want to meet up with other guys. Respect that. Not any one person is bigger than the ISG as a whole. It's not fair to set things up in a way that would make guys come crawling to you in order to get some real info. That's where I think the egos get carried away in here. Info should be readily available for all to access. Sometimes assholes access the info, but mostly real cool dudes who want what we want benefit from our info.

I guess my gripe is that you guys act like you ARE the ISG and all must grovel personally at your feet in order to get anything close to specifics. Like my first grade teacher told me many, many years ago, "You can't MAKE the other kids be your friends..."[/QUOTE]

You will also read in just as many of those threads in the "worldclass" venues, the numbers of experienced mongers that have almost ALL developed a policy that to post anything, photos, names, descriptions...anything, is to jeapardize their own fun. You know why they have that attitude? It is because they have learned through experience that to do so sabotages their own fun in the long run.

I've even been noticing over the last three years or so, where many formerly prolific writers, pioneers of the hobby in exotic destinations, highly experienced writers, mongers with considerable game and experience, are expressing remorse at having promoted their favorite venues at all, realizing that their very contributions, due primarily to the proliferation of the internet itself, only serves to spoil their little corner of paradise, that their favorite places are being assaulted by such huge numbers of bohemian newbie mongers, conducting themselves with such disregard for those that follow them, that it's akin to the neanderthal hords invading Maui (ie: paradise).

I always knew better than to provide the detail in my reports, because I am literally well aware of the potential abuses, and I know of the warnings given by mongers that are experienced experts in their respective venues. If you check their posts now against their posts several years ago, you'll find that they have all but dropped off the radar screen, usually offering commentary of opinion only, and nothing whatsoever of substance. They have simply been burned too many times. That IS the reality!

I should not even have posted club references or synonyms with respect to any of the girls I've found. Because, literally, there is always one, and usually many more, that will do exactly what has just occurred here. I knew better than to post anything, but I always had the motivation to at least provide decent logistics, and I was always optomistic that perhaps that what has occurred would not occur to me, hoping foolishly against the odds that my personal space would not be invaded.

Yeah, it will never happen to "me", right? But, through incrementally revealing too much information, my fear of the inevitable became reality. So, what's the answer? There is only one alternative in light of the circumstances.

We are supposed to post in great detail, only to have the neaderthal hords invading Monterrey, potentially spoiling girls, and attempting to sabotage us with girls we have individually developed?

Some of us put considerable effort into developing our best girls. For the most part, our use of the "my" girl descriptions are simply terms of endearment, descriptions used between guys that frequent Monterrey together, as a band of brothers. Even the girls themselves have the same perspective. If the girl knows you are her client, or whatever, they are very careful not to upset the balance of the universe by openly fucking all your known associates. If the truth be known, had my "G" girl known that Mastermind was who he was, that I had any link to him whatsoever, she would never had gone with him on salida, at least not openly.

Frankly, there is no up-side to having others influencing what we get from our best girls. If my concerns for posting anything of substance were not well illustrated in theory before, then the stark reality of that truth is vividly obvious to everyone reading about these circumstances at this juncture.

I thought I had found the answer, that to post in synonyms, providing at least logistics, perhaps some detail about the clubs, would suffice, that it would protect my investments sufficienty. But the reality is, to post anything of specicivity only serves to inhibit your success if you monger regularly in a specific destination.

You guys that want to post about your occassional visits to Monterrey, be my guest, those of you that have no vested interest in what you individually develop with respect to quality of performance. But, for my part, because I regularly invest a considerable amount of travel cost to be in the venue to begin with, and because I devote a considerable effort to developing a girl to a point where she delivers exceptional service, GFE, and is even aware of what exceptional service even is, a characterstic that is not really that abundent in Monterrey to begin with, I've concluded that to offer contributions here that serve only to sabotage my efforts is totally counterproductive to me.

Where is the up-side, or more accurately, where are we as the experienced mongers in MTY, offering helpful commentary, protected from such abuses?

Until the protection is forthcoming from the administration of the site, or I can somehow make reference to my experiences without suffering the slings and arrows of disengeuous mongers, I choose to protect my investments by withholding the specicivity of my exploits, and with good reason, reason that has been so vividly demonstrated here most recently.

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Mill:
I just stated a fact, an intent, not a rule.
Of course there are many that come to Mty and don't make contact at all.
I always watch them from my seat at the clubs.
How do I know some are mongers? Cause they have the give-aways: some are new to town, but some how land at the "special" clubs like the Infinito or the lunch buffets at the 5 star clubs.
And some boast of reading about the clubs to the girls somewhere in the WWW.
I always try to nullify those thoughts as in "The Web??? what the hell is that???... or must be some stupid chat board".

And then there are many that I just don't care how they fare as long as they are not ripped off.

Mill, you are in the "Friends" list... believe it or not, I've been priming the girls for "that gringo from Morelia... he'll come one day".

Mill... have you read, for example, the SA boards? the SEA boards? here at the ISG???? The postings go more or less like this: "I fucked a girl who's name I don't remember.... I fucked Ana (a dime a dozen name at all clubs)... I paid bar fine for excellent fuck Tanya (which would be boasting, cause the rest of the monger either they won't find a girl under that name or the moner is boasting acts that never came to be).... have you checked "other forums" where guys say they "fucked a door girl who's name I don't remember, but she is the one standing 3rd door from the corner"?????
Or the Border Town threads where posters just name a "I found a nice SW that gave me BBBJ... sorry but I don't recall the name".... "I couldn't find Elsa, but I found a cute 18 year old that gave me a BB (no name given)".
Or the Colombia Mansion threads where mongers just mention a great fuck and no names???? or names of girls that are not there when others go looking for them????
Go to the Bogota, Colombia thread... tell me how many names of chicas are mentioned (just 2 on the first page, and vague descriptions, no specifics)... just tell me how much valid information if thrown around for the monger to read beyond the weather report.
The Thai reports: "A beautiful girl aproached me..." "I fucked a nice 18 year old from a bar filled with tons of girls"...
The China mainland reports: "I can't mention the name"... "I met her somewhere"....

And so on.... and so on.

I have read tons of leading and misleading posts everywhere of mongers that just don't care for the name of the girl or just post a "sui generis" name that does not coincied with reallity cause they don't care for the girl... they just care for themselves.
And GOOD FOR THEM!!!
Let them act as they want.

That does not happen here.... we try to help the guys reading this Thread.[/QUOTE]