Istanbul

Hi Guys,

I called this very foxy (she is mad about sex) lady (let's call her "X") the day before.

I was keeping her number aside, for a very horny day of mine, like the day before.

Sorry, phone or name will not be available; because the pics are on the way to the PHOTO GALLERY.

You may catch her around Irmak and recognize her from her body details.

Carpe Diem

Hi guys,

First time that Iam reporting. Was in Seranda last Thursday. Place was not so crowded. Picked up Angelika from romania as my favorit Madalina was not there. Body ok, good titts, performance ok. Unfortunately no blow job.

Was out yesterday. First in Balance where the choice was not very good. Everthing seems to be a little bit slow. Left and went next door to Seranda.

Also here the choice was quite limited. Finally I went for Victoria from Moskau. She looks like a brazilian. She exlained me that her mother was italian and her father russian. Look very good, despite her age of 33 (looks like 25). Very nice person good figure. Went upstairs , had a nice chat and then a good fuck. She asked for 100 $ two hours and /or two times sex.

Will be traveling to Istanbul for 2 nights soon. First time to this part of the world.

It looks like we will stay at the Hilton. From the reports I read...this seems to be a girl friendly hotel.

Is there any action "in the hotel" such as the bar or nearby location?

Any suggestions to this location would be appreciated.

Stay Safe and Have Fun!

Hello,

The Aksaray scene is quite empty after the newspaper stories about the girls from EE. The police busted the whole area and as I have heard yesterday, collected some 450 girls even when walking on the streets of the area at the daytime.

As far as I know, Bacardi is temporarily closed because there are no girls courageous enough (?) to go there and with no girls in the club and all men around, it had trouble in keeping up with the basic costs of the daily operating expenses.

Rumours say that these operations will continue until 20th of this month, if not until next week.

They say that this whole story started when a journalist visited Bacardi and spent the whole night there, at the end receiving a bill of over 1000 YTL (hard to beleive though). When he rejected to pay, he was invited to the guest room and got beaten there. In response, he made a cover story about the mongering scene in Aksaray for his newspaper and the police had nothing to do after that but to take the mentioned precautions.

So by the time, stick to other areas or to your phone book of previous contacts and to find something interesting to read at WSG forum go to Morocco-Photo Survey section. It is really interesting what is going on there, shocking should I say...

Best for all,

Ufbebaba.

below is the article by craig / nyt. turkish "hürriyet" newspaper's writer fatih altaylı wrote two articles about the topic in response, but i dont think he actually visited bacardi and/or got beaten up there.

what most probably happened is, the mayor of istanbul was uncomfortable with reading the nyt article and sent the cops to aksaray. well, this is turkey, and all the chicks will be back on the road again shortly.

although law enforcement has improved in turkey, unfortunately still a lot of water will flow down the euphratus until the local police will really get rid of pimps and human trafficers......

1) [url]www.hurriyetim.com.tr/archive_articledisplay/0,,authorid~9@sid~9@nvid~596719,00.asp[/url]

2) [url]www.hurriyetim.com.tr/archive_articledisplay/0,,authorid~9@sid~9@nvid~598862,00.asp[/url]


turkey's sex trade entraps slavic women
by craig s. smith - the new york times - tuesday 28 june 2005

trabzon, turkey - the women arrive here by ferry from across the black sea, sometimes dozens at a time. whatever their real names, they are known in turkey as natashas, and often end up working as prostitutes in this country's growing sex trade.

turkey, with its booming economy and lax visa requirements, is becoming the world's largest market for slavic women, one of the most visible exports from struggling former soviet states.

most come of their own free will, but many end up as virtual slaves, sold from pimp to pimp through a loosely organized criminal network that stretches from moscow to istanbul and beyond.

prostitution is legal in turkey where the government licenses brothels, known as "general houses," and issues prostitutes identity cards that give them rights to some free medical care and other social services. but women working in general houses - there is usually one in each large city - tend to be older, and the demand for young, slender women has outstripped supply. slavic women are meeting that need.

"women are recruited at home with the promise of employment," said allan freedman, who coordinates countertrafficking programs at the ankara bureau of the international organization for migration, an independent body that works closely with the united nations.

"once they are across the border their passports are taken away and they are beaten and raped and forced into prostitution," he said. the women are typically kept locked in an apartment except when they are taken out to customers.

outside istanbul's general house - a collection of tiny brothels in a warren of alleys behind a guarded metal gate - touts accost visitors with promises of beautiful young russian girls at not much more than the price of the older turkish women waiting inside.

"i can bring you any kind of girl you want," promised an eager man in a black shirt and pants with a gold-faced watch, saying that his girls were kept in a building in the city center.

part of the reason turkey has become a magnet is that the more lucrative markets of western europe are protected by increasingly strict visa requirements. a young woman from moldova can be in istanbul in a day by paying just $10 for a monthlong visa at the border.

"this is one of the reasons why the eu is so worried about turkey," said freedman, referring to european resistance to turkey's quest to join the bloc. "it's increasingly a migrant hub."

turkey has been working over the past two years to stop the trafficking and to get off a u.s. government blacklist. in 2003, the u.s. state department listed turkey in its report on trafficking as a "tier 3" country, meaning that it had taken no significant action to eliminate the trade. the status jeopardized american financial aid to turkey. in the state department's most recent report, issued this month, turkey was moved up to "tier 2," but still falls short of u.s. government expectations.

turkey lists trafficking as a separate crime in its new penal code, which took effect this month. a one-year, $600,000 u.s. grant is being used to train police officers to recognize trafficked women and to pay for a hot line to help women caught in a trafficker's grip.

freedman said the hot line had led to the rescue of a moldovan woman within days of its inauguration this month. her captor was arrested.

turkey's independent human resources development fund opened the country's only shelter for trafficked women last october in central istanbul. but the shelter, which has helped 74 women, holds only 12 people.

"that's nothing when compared with the number of victims," said berna eren, president of the organization. more than 200 trafficked women were identified in turkey last year but the authorities said they represented as little as 10 percent of the women actually bought and sold.

"some girls in the shelter say they have been sold more than once," she said, but added that, as the women are sold "from city to city, the traffickers are hard to trace."

at the dilek café, in an area of trabzon known as the russian bazaar, a half-dozen garishly made-up women sat beckoning passers-by. one woman agreed to talk to a reporter, but her smile froze when asked about trafficked women. a turkish man approached, shooed her back to her spot by the door and told the reporter to leave.

This was a classical Turkish mentality. When there is something wrong, shut the whole.

This is what happened. In the prostitution industry, demand and supply usually meets with "will". Of course there are examples of "forced" supply. But Turkish authorities saw this one forced example and tried to shut down the whole industry by arresting 400+ Slavic women. Some even without reason.

Obviously, as a member of this group, I approve the supply of prostitution services. More over, I truly believe it's a good thing for the whole city/country. First it creates jobs, and economic profit to establishments.
Second it releases the negative energy that may have otherwise burst
Third it becomes a touristic feature. Like Thailand, Cuba, and Amsterdam.

The idea should be to remove the imperfections. Not the whole.

You are certainly right, N.D. - it is actually hillarious how the "state" reacts to the matter. It is like in China, where the police has bulldozers running over fake DVDs one day a year but accepts bribes from the sellers during the rest of the year.

The semi-official arguments towards and against the industry vary a lot from "let us better import slavic prostitutes, so we can preserve the honor of Turkish girls" to "slavic prostitutes destroy the Turkish family structure".

Anyway, I just had a phone conversation with No_Commit, he is right now in Aksaray and said the Girl-Men-Ratio is 11:1. So, what do we learn ?: Our police takes the matter very serious... which I like so much about them. :-))))

I do not think though, that İstanbul will ever become even close to the range of Cuba and Thailand, as the owners of the Aksaray joints still have not understood that foreigners do not want to overpay for the beer, do not want to tip each fucking donkey in, at and around these clubs, can find a cab for themselves and even open the cab's door by themselves without tipping the door-asshole 5 YTL for that "service".

Exactly.

From the moment you enter the gates of any venue in Aksaray 'till the moment you leave the Hotel you've been in with your vehicle, there is always someone around. Quite annoying to see those ill looking jerks around, leaving the financial cost alone.

Sometimes I feel to say to the girl "o.k., I'll give you 50 YTL more but I do not want to see the cloakroommen, the doormen, the taxi caller, the taxi door opener, the bellboy, the roomservice boy, the hotel guard..."...

This situation reminds me about the old "hammam" tradition where there always was a queue for the tips when you were leaving.



[QUOTE=Local Expert]do not want to overpay for the beer, do not want to tip each fucking donkey in, at and around these clubs, can find a cab for themselves and even open the cab's door by themselves without tipping the door-asshole 5 YTL for that "service".[/QUOTE]

I was at the Seranda Hotel\Disco on July 4th.

My luck with women named Christina is extremely poor, especially if they are blonde and a 9 or better. Results being dissappointing.

On this night however, the police came in about midnight and arrested all the girls. Walking outside, they loaded them all into a van and the club suddenly had no women at all.

Ended up at Irmak Disco, where there were fewer targets but no police.

Hope it all recovers for those inbound.

Sounds like yet another bunch of miss informed politicians. Making such a big deal about this black list. Well if it was a complete list why isn't Israel on it? Its is huge business there. In Turkey allot of the girls I talked to are there on there own to make money and go back to their country and have a nice lifestyle. In Israel visa restrictions are very hard so I am sure all of the EE girls there are from the white slave trade. Germany is one of the main players in the EU yet they have allot of EE girls.

If newspaper stories were so important to politicians, there should be no political corruption in Turkey, since so many stories have been written about it.

Hey does anyone here ever go to the clubs in Ortakoy? I know they are not the same type as Bicardi. I went by that area on my last trip there, never had a chance to check any of them out. Was wondering if they are like many clubs in Taksim where you have to be a couple or a girl to get in. I know Bodrum has better clubs but, wondered if there were any in Istanbul worth checking out. I have found a few small places in Istanbul that were ok, but the clubs in Ortakoy area looked bigger and maybe more fun.

I was bored of my favorites.

Last saturday, I f*cked one of them 50th time; and spent the hell of a lot of money for the hotel, dinner, etc.

So I decided to give a try the number of one of the old providers that a fellow friend from this forum gave me.

I told her what I wanted, at the beginning : Slim, young, speaking Turkish or English, not shy, no holes barred. She immediately arranged a beauty within 15 minutes and told me pick her up from Harbiye; just across the Military Museum's entrance.

The 2 hour fee was a mere $ 50. Unbelievable ! I did not know there were still girls for $50, after the weakening of the US $. She also said her girls do not go to hotels in Aksaray. I did not question why, it may be because of the fear of getting busted, or just that htey prefer more classy hotels. The latter turned out to be NOt ture, however, when we ended up in Bristol Hotel in Beyoglu (across the old American Consulate). Its rooms are worse than Seranda, Orange or Grand Asiyan and its price was 80 YTL, which is at least 20-25 YTL more than Aksaray rates. However, it IS an alternative girl-friendly Hotel after all. (I have one more alternative Hotel in Taksim, which is much nicer than all these, and only $ 45 all day, including breakfast-but it accepts girls only with me, they know me there).

Anyway, we chatted a while with sweet Nina, having some refreshments and getting to know eachother. We were necking and cudling during the chat, then she attacked my member and gave a long BBBJ, spitting and wanking in the meantime. I did nopt want to come in her mouth, so I picked her up and entered her missionary. A few pumps, then a few more sideways, I exploded. I was hungry for a woman for a week, so it was kind of premature ejaculation.

After the shower, we patted and caresed eachother and chatted some more (she is Ukrainian, 26 y.o., has 2 children at home, etc.). He body is almost perfect ! Her attitudes are sweet, skin is silky, flesh a little bit soft (not so perky as an 18 year old teenage). But overall performance was more than O.K. I went DATY and fingered her every hole. She came, no fake shouting. I liked that.

Then I f*cked her doggy and cow-girl. Very relaxing.

The 2 hours was to end at 16:30, but we did it until 17:45 and she did not complain. I believe she would not complain if I wanted once more, but I was finished.

I tipped her a 20 YTL and she thanked me a thousand times.

Unfortunately, she has no contact phone number. This provider's girls never give their phone number out. I have to all her always via her provider mama. But I gave her my number, so that she may call when she gets bored and available.

I will definitely go for her some more times. And I recommend her to all trustable monger friends. PM me for her mama's number. But, remember that her mama does not send out girls to people she does not know. You have to give the name of one of her customers or have him call her beforehand, in order to order a girl. since I cannot give my name to you, due to discreetness principle; you will have to work your way out, to persuade her. If you tell her that you got the number from Internet, you have absolutely no chance, she will hang up on your face. Your only chance may be that you got the number from a married friend who works in an official Government business at a high flyer position, so you cannot deliver his name...

Nina, Ukraininan, 26 years, light brunette, B size tits, very proportional body, curvy body outline, beautiful hands and feet, likes sex, 50 $ for 2 hours (except the tip that she expects), 100 $ till morning (22:00 - 11:00).

Sex : 8 (no anal)
Body : 7 (not so big tits)
Attitude : 9 (never said no, except pulling aside gently when I rammed her black hole)
Price / Service : 10

Carpe Diem

Hi mate,

I will be visiting Istanbol the next few days.Do you know the mamas telephone No just to give her a ring and make my arrangment with.

Will be nice if you still have that No :)

Cheers

[QUOTE=Crema]Through YH, I was given the name of a mamma who looks after a few girls. Her English is only so so. After a challenging telephone discussion, I make arrangements to meet up with Alex. Given that I wanted her to come at 11pm, the only option allowed was a 'long program'. This was negotiated for US$100.

I was expecting her to simply come straight up to my room as the reception staff at the hotel were a fairly disinterested bunch but got a shock when they rang me to tell me that my guest had arrived and that I would be up for an additional charge for a double rather than single rate for the night which amounted to about an extra US$30 - I obviously didn't wish to create a scene and said okay. She also wanted me to pay the taxi driver who brought her here with about 25YTL.

Alex is in her mid twenties, has long dark hair with a slim body and is about 168cm tall. We sorted out the financials and started with a bit of chit chat. Fortunately her English is quite reasonable and like a lot of modern Europeans, speaks some 7 or 8 languages. She has an exotic look to her which made her origins difficult to place but she told me that she was half greek and half arabic but there were other bits thrown in there from a mixed ancestry. She grew up in Moldovia and moved to Turkey about 6 years ago.

Once she took off her top, it revealed the best natural rack you could imagine. Her pussy was shaven and looked, felt, smelt and tasted as clean as a whistle. We started with plentiful DFK and the luxury of having no time pressures upon us. She then started on the BBBJ with plenty of ball licking thrown in as well. The way in which she would glance sexily into your eyes whilst doing this was a major turn on. I was happy for this to go on and on and this could be afford when there was no time limitation. Eventually we decide to proceed wiht the main action and she rides me reverse cowgirl. The initial feeling as your cock slowly slides into a warm tight muscular pussy is a major treat. I had to slow her down as I felt that I might blow both my nuts and enjoyment time. I got her to change over to normal cowgirl and this process gave me more than enough time to recover. She then slowly rocked her hips back and forth and with great control and staring longingly into my eyes with the cutest smiles only made in heaven. I blew with one of the longest orgasms I can recall in living memory. We spent an hour with round number 1.

When you have a girl like Alex, it doesn't take long to feel in the mood for round 2 which was essentially a repeat of round 1 and I won't bore you guys with the boring details of went on subsequently. Haing only just arrived that morning, I was still jet lagged and was only in the mood to be pampered rather than to return favour - this did not fuss Alex at all and she was only too pleased to provide that comprehensive service.

I am indebted to YH who gave the mamma's contact details.[/QUOTE]

I have been living in Istanbul since 2 moths now, and I am convinced there must be mongering places outside Aksaray-Laleli.

Does anyone have any info about Taksim, Beyoglu, European Bosporus coast, Besiktas, Etiler, Ulus?

Who knows?

Living in Istanbul since two months now, can anyone tell me if there is some action going on OUTSIDE Aksaray or Laleli.

I am sure there must be some action around Taksim, Beyouglu, Bebek, Ulus, Ortakoy.

I will be gratefull to anyone who can add some usefull info, Many thanks!