Jakarta

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1725157] But the bottom line is; I just can't get enough of these amazing girls.[/QUOTE]Haha!

I am happy to her you had a great time Natty!

What is the going rate for FL's at CJ's? You know that I am all about the FL scene.

I am really looing forward to reading your reports!

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1725388]
What is the going rate for FL's at CJ's? [/QUOTE]1. 5 million short time.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1725467]1. 5 million short time.[/QUOTE]You can get some of them for a cool million if it's near closing time and they haven't done a trick yet or if the rent needs to be paid the following day.

Jakarta has always been a buyer's market. Same goes for BATS by the way. Oh, and don't tell them it's your first time in Indonesia or that you're a business traveler.

[QUOTE=HardHatMate;1724557]To add to Smoothys comments on the penjay bars. They are also far easier to sit and have a beer and a smoke in, with the music not as loud and as offensive as Classic.Makes for a better experience IMHO.[/QUOTE]I disagree as the few times I have been there I have never found a seat. And the rooms upstairs are filled with cockroaches and bedbugs. What's worse, there's no hot water and I've even found used condoms near the sink.

[B]May 3 (Day 10: Sunday) Continued from Angeles City, Philippines.
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I landed at around 12 am. VOA was a breeze, barely took 10 minutes as I had walked fast before the crowd got into the VISA queue. I got out and into the queue for a Bluebird taxi to Hotel. I had booked 5 nights in Mercure Kota for my stay in Jakarta after recommendation from forum members. I chose the Executive Room, cost me approx. 350 SGD without breakfast. After a good hour of wait I got a Cab and finally reached Hotel, checked in. I had Millie's Disco in Lokasari Plaza in mind and it was near hence a good chance of getting their without much trouble. I freshened up quickly and took a taxi from the Hotel. I liked this about Mercure that they always had blue birds on call and got one for you in minutes.

The Taxi buy drove me right up to the entrance from where I could take a lift to the joint. I asked him about the fare but he wanted more, 5000 Rupiah extra for parking. I was slightly confused on this but as it was already late I paid him the money which was 12000 + 5000. The guy pocketed the 20000 note I gave him and refused to hand over the change. So much for Bluebird honesty.

[B]Millies Disco
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I paid 35 k entrance fee and got inside. As soon as I stepped in I couldn't see a thing. There was good EDM music playing and all I could see was faint people's faces peeking into their smart phones. The disco was extremely dark. It took good 5 minutes for me to acclimatize my eyes to the environment. I noticed the bar and walked right up to it. Got seated on a chair by the bar. I could barely see people's faces. Just their body sizes good enough to make out whether it was a girl or a guy. There was hardly any crowd. Few girls accompanied by guys. I ordered myself a JD cola, 90 k, almost 9 or 10 SGD, not steep and got a small bottle of water in lieu of the 35 k entrance fee I had paid. I hung around for some time. Two girls and 1 guy came and sat beside me, were local and enjoying. I smiled at the girl, don't know if she noticed but she came towards me said something in Bahasa. I told her that I spoke only English. She then asked me where I was from and what was I doing in Jakarta, etc. I replied to her Qs politely. She then asked me for a smoke. I offered her my Mevius light packet but she insisted that she smoked only menthol. I said sorry then she told me whether I would buy menthol for her. I was slightly surprised as to why would I buy that girl a packet of cigarette when I could barely see her face and body. Besides she was already with her friends. She then asked me again if I could buy her menthol and pointed at the tables in the corner. I realized that something is wrong. Maybe she's asking me to buy some dope for her. I refused and said she can go and get herself a menthol if she wanted. She shrugged and went back to her friends. I hung around for some time but with no girl in sight or anything to do finished my drink and decided to go back to the hotel. I retraced my steps towards the lift and soon as I got in the liftman asked me whether I wanted some X. I said No and told him to get me down. I stepped out and decided to walk towards the Hotel. I spotted a 7/11 within the plaza and got myself a XL $G sim for 10 krupiah. I asked about the 4 G data plan but guys didn't know anything about it and asked me to go to XL center. I picked the sim and walked back to Hotel. As soon as I got into the room decided to log into ISG. But both the mobile and Hotel internet seems to have blocked ISG. I was not able to access the forum for the next 5 days till I got out of Jakarta.

[B]May 4 (Day 11: Monday)
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I got up at 11 am and spotted a Dunkin right across the road from my Hotel room. I went and got some breakfast. Checked all dating apps and sent some messages. WeChat got me massage places by loads but not any great women around. Then I decided to find a XL center to get my 4 G data plan activated. I crossed over to the hotel and checked with the reception guy who told me that there is a store in Gaja Madah plaza. I took a blue bird and went there. Same problem, taxi guy refused to give me back 3000 rupiah, no change. I wondered if these guys were honest then how bad would be the other taxi guys. The store was in the lane besides the Mercure Harmoni hotel. Got my phone sorted out after good 45 minutes of waiting. Walked back to Hotel and just as I reached it started to rain. It poured for the next few hours. I had planned to visit Alexis in the afternoon but now had to wait for the rain to stop.

[B]Alexis Hotel
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I reached Alexis at 7 pm eventually, had to brave some traffic and cost me 65 k from the hotel. Got into the lift and straight up to the 7th Floor spa. Got my token and went up the stairs to the changing room. I wanted to have a look at the girls first so walked right into the main hall. I was immediately welcomed by a papasan, feels right. As I was alone I was made to sit on the long chair. He then explained to me the options available. He told me that Imports were 2. 37 Mill whereas the local gals were 1. 37 mill. He then asked me which ones I wanted to see. As this was my first time I thought why not take a look at all. So he first summoned the Thai ladies. Around 5 but very average, not worth the money being asked. Next were the East Europeans, around 5 gals again but pretty average. Then he summoned the PRC gals, found two quite sweet and sexy looking amongst the 7 present there. Then he clapped and summoned "Vietnam" and behold an entourage of 8 or 9 girls walked towards me. They all stood and in a semi-circle, wished me in Viet jointly with smiles. I found the 1 gal I was looking for. I asked him how it worked, whether I had to point and tell him. He told me I had to remember their nos. The Viet gals said bye and went away. In the meantime I had ordered a Corona. I told him that I need some time to decide to which he replied I can take as long as I want. I pondered over whether to take a PRC gal or Viet. Both were available in Singapore but I had not come across such beautiful girls during any of my visits. Amidst this commotion in my mind I didn't call for the local gals. Eventually I decided upon the Viet gal and asked him to call her over. I didn't remember her no so he summoned all of them. I smiled to everyone and noticed the no of the gal I wanted. As they were leaving I indicated to him my choice. He then called her over and she came and stood beside me. I asked her name and it was Nicolette. I found it a strange name for a Viet girl but didn't mind. She asked me whether I was ready to go. I nodded so she told me that I need to go and change into spa clothes and she will meet me near the Jacuzzi. I went and changed, took my sagami 0. 02 and smoked in the small pouch provided and walked towards the Jacuzzi. She was standing there in her bikini revealing her sexy curves and asked me to put my things into a locker. I kept my beer on the table and then accompanied her. She got me into the hot Jacuzzi and gave me a good face massage with hot towel for 5 minutes. She then massaged my shoulders and back. She slowly guided her hand to my dick over the shorts and started playing. I pulled her closer to me and got her on my lap. I kissed her on the lips and she was ok. There was only one other couple in the pool. The girl was PRC and they were at the other side and were busy with their own game. Meanwhile Nicollete continued rubbing my dick leading to a raging hard on. I got my hands over her be sized breasts and kissed her. She responded well and then whispered in my ear to go to the room. I couldn't wait any further. I immediately changed, got my stuff and beer and off we went one floor down to the rooms. It was one of the plushest rooms I have ever seen in any massage parlour or spa till date. She got to shower and brush. We got onto the bed. Little bit of foreplay followed with some good DFK. She then stopped and opened a rubber. I was surprised. I was expecting a BBJ but she said that they could offer only a CBJ. I was slightly dejected but wanted to carry on. It was an average BJ. I got her to mount me and started pumping her. Then changed position to missionary and then doggy. I could hear her slight fake moaning and wanted to get my load out before it turned me off. I finished and we lied besides each other for some time. I asked her that how was she named Nicolette to which she replied that her real name was Mi and it was her work name. I remembered one encounter in my earlier visits to OT with a girl names Mi. We got up and I took a shower. She then presented me with a slip which had different boxes as options for tip. I ticked on 200 k. She smiled back and was happy. She led me out to the changing area. I contemplated whether I should stick around for some time and check the Indo gals or come later. I decided to come back later. I changed and came down to settle my tab which came to 2. 7 Mill. I paid by cash and handed over the token to the guard who let me go into the lift. I came back to hotel and was pleasantly happy with the experience. The ambience was superb and it was a different feeling compared to the Soapies and Oilies I had been to in Thailand.

Overall experience 7/10.

[B]Malioboro
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I had planned for 2 spa visits on each day of my stay there covering all key ones. I rested for about half an hour and then checked on google maps which one I should go to. Malioboro seemed the closest so I took a bluebird from hotel and went to Mc Donald's near Mercure Harmoni, got some food then walked to Mailoboro. I entered and took my token, was guided to the spa on the ground floor. I looked around and there were some Japanese men cleaning up and relaxing but no girls. I then remembered that I also had to check the Mailo club. So I took the lift up to the 4th floor then walked across the hallway till the end wherein 2 security guards checked my token no. I asked them where the malio club was and they told me to take the lift downstairs. I came down and was immediately accosted by a mamasan who guided me to a chair near the stage. I told her that I wanted to look around. There were nude women dancing on stage. I went around till the back and could see sexy good looking women in bikinis spread all around. I managed to get a seat facing the stage. There were some beautiful women up on stage and I was Happy. Immediately like a swarm of bees the bikini girls circled around me and started bombarding me with questions about where I was from, what was my name, was I on holiday, etc. I told them that I need some time alone and will call them back. 2 even asked whether I can buy them drinks. I told them to leave me alone for some time. I had read about the drinks and how it can screw your entire evening's budget. They left but 2 remained seated around me. I ordered for a Guinness and started sipping slowly taking in the ambience. I had a good look at the girls on stage and the bikini girls around. These indeed were the most beautiful indo girls I had seen so far. Amazing bodies and great looks. I didn't mind paying 2 mill for anyone of them. One of the girl sitting across to me was a real looker and killer body. I asked her whether she wanted a drink to which she smilingly nodded. She called over the waiter who came with shots asked me how many. She wanted four so I asked him how much each cost. He said 50 k so I told him to get one. Her face dropped but she still continued to smile at me. Language was a problem so not much chit chat. She finished her drink in a single gulp. The girl sitting next to her asked me for a drink. I thought to myself that it was time for me to leave. SO I told them that I will comeback after freshening up at the spa. As I left the mamasan was standing near the door and asked me if everything was ok to which I positively nodded. I took the lift upstairs then across the hallway and wanted to take the lift to go down to the selection floor. The liftman told me that the lift is used only for going up floors and not down. I was quite amused and took the stairs to the 3rd floor and walked in. It was a small pub but didn't have the feel of the Malio club I had just been to. I walked out and took the stairs to the second floor. I went in and into the main hall. This place had tables wherein guys were seated. To the left was an area wherein all girls were seated. There was a small stage in the centre and few girls were dancing, few of them beautiful but not as the ones I had seen earlier. I got myself seated and ordered another Guinness. One mamasan approached me and asked me whether I wanted to choose a girl. She had PRC girls and they were in some good quantity. I wanted to sample local fare so I asked her to show me Indonesian girls. She then told me the rates written on paper. PRC girls were 1 mill and 1. 2 mill for models. Indo girls were 800 k and 1 mill for models. She then asked a papasan to come over and show me girls. He immediately summoned a set of girls, approx. 8, found 2 to my taste. I picked one and the others left. In the meantime the dancers on the stage had gone nude. I asked her if she wanted a drink to which she said no. I asked her if she was ok to which she said that she had a bad cold. These were not good signs so I told her to call over the papasan. She called him over and I asked her to go back to her seating area. I told papasan that I need another girl. He looked puzzled but I told him that I am not ok with that girl /. He summoned the rest of them over. I picked the second girl I had liked earlier. She got seated beside me. I got her a green ice tea. She added a pack of cigarettes to the order, Icouldn't refuse. Her name was Siskaa. Usual chat and we were off to the room. I was surprised that this place had more PRC girls then Indo. The congregation of men there was also dominantly of PRC guys. We took the lift up to the fourth floor and got into oneof the rooms. Room was pretty basic with a thick mattress on the floor. We took shower and got on with the session. The girl offered me a BBJ but was not keen on DFK. Besides girls here were referring to me as mister despite telling them my name and it's not so difficult to remember. We had a decent WOT, miss and doggy session, got over fast. It wasn't as passionate but I had tasted my first Indo girl. She got me added on fb and I offered her a cash tip of 100 k and we walked out. I was not completely satisfied with the session but it was ok.

Overall experience 6. 5/10.

[B]Few things which I didnt bother to ask the mamasan or papasan is whether the bikini or dancer girls in the Malio club are bar finable. Similarly are the dancer girls in the main hall area also available. These girls were much better looking with great bodies compared to the girls available through papasan. I didnt have access to the forum to post this query at that time and left without exploring it much further. I wouldnt have minded paying 2 mill or more for some of those girls as they were totally worth it. Request if forum members can throw some light on this subject. [/B]

[B]Golden Crown
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It was 1 am by the time I was out. I took a blue bird post paying 20 k tip to the guard who were not closing the taxi door and letting me go. I wanted to go to Golden Crown but neither the taxi guy no I was aware of the location. I asked him to drop me to Mercure. I went to the room, changed into trousers and was back down in minutes. I told the bell boy to get me a taxi who knew where golden crown was. He got me one. The taxi guy drove right up to the entrance. As usual he didn't have change and pocketed my balance money along with 5 k parking charges. I never understood this system and decided to take it as ancillary expenses henceforth. Entry was 35 k. I walked into the main disco hall. This place was as dark as Millie's but quite huge in comparison. The DJ was located up on a revolving stage almost a floor above. I walked around without stumbling but could barely see a face amongst the strobe lights. I came back and got myself a seat on a table near the entrance. There was barely a crowd there. Within minutes of me seated two women approached me. Tried to chat to me but I could notice from the light coming in from the entrance that they were cougars and I wasn't there for them. I got rid of them. Few minutes later another cougar walked up asked me if I was alone. I replied that I was waiting for my girlfriend, she went away. I then walked out see what else was available. When I came out I caught hold of a staff walking by. I asked him if there were any other rooms or pub within the vicinity. He told me that there were two discos and rest were Karaoke rooms. I asked him where the other disco was. He then took me to the end of the hallway. Now this was what I called a disco. It was a small but open area, ample light to notice women's faces. Good crowd around, lots of young women in groups. I took a walk around and decided to come back later as I was tired and wanted to go to sleep now. I took the lift and walked out. There were some taxi guys but I avoided them and walked up to the main road. I waved a bluebird over who dropped me off to Mercure. I called it a night.

[B]May 5 (Day 12: Tuesday)
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[B]Alexis (2nd Visit)
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I started my day with breakfast at Dunkin at 12 pm and then followed up on social apps for leads or interests, some responses but not very positive, left few more messages and gave up. I had checked the earlier day regarding the opening time of Alexis and it was 2 pm. I wanted to go back to Alexis and take an Indo girl. I reached Alexis around 3. 30 pm. The usual imports were there however the Indo corner had more than 30 girls, good news for me as I had a wide choice. As there were not many customers I was seated on the sofa right with the PRCs on the right, Indo's on front, Viet's at my left and Thai and EE were behind me. I guess this position was extremely suitable for me. Only issue being that since there were not many customers I couldn't see the girls walk. I would have to summon them though mamasan and it becomes extremely overwhelming and nerve wrecking to make a choice when so many beautiful girls are standing in front of you and dozens other looking at who you pick. Never felt this kind of pressure in my FKK visits. I sipped on Guinness and tried to focus on a girl. The indo girl section was too crowded and unless I didn't want to make a choice just by seeing someone's face. The mamasan came to me and asked me if I was ready to make a selection. I nodded and she asked me which girls to call. I told her that I wanted to see the Indo girls but since there were too many she could get only the ones who were tall and slim. She went away towards the girls section and started picking at random. I didn't know what she understood from my choice but she got me approx. 8 girls including short, chubby, tall and thin. Luckily I liked one girl and she joined me at my table. She ordered a coconut drink. Her work name was Amelia and she was from Bandung. With pleasantries over we went to the Jacuzzi. She had a good body with an amazing arse and her two piece indeed was helping reveal her figure. We spent some time in the hot water with some light pecking, she was acting too shy to DFK there even when the entire pool was left to ourselves with no one around. We went to the room. Amelia opened up in the room and kissed me well. Got into the shower and on to bed. She had good be sized breasts and a curvy ass. Now I realize what forum members meant when they referred to Indo girls as Latinas of the east. Her butt was simply amazing. She played with my dick in her hand and licking all over my naval area getting me an instant hard on. She then tried to reach for the condom but I stopped her and said that I will give her a good tip if she does BBBJ. Surprisingly she agreed and gave me a decent BBBJ. I got her on Top of me, she was having slight difficulty in accommodating me, seemed she will still dry inside. I puller her closer to me and got into DFK with her and she responded well. After a few thrusts I asked her to change position. She was slightly surprised as to why so fast. I had her arse on my mind and wanted to take her doggy. Got her into position and pounded her for the next few minutes holding and slitting her buns. She reached out to kiss me and I did. Her breasts were too soft and I was ok with that as her arse was compensating for the firmness I wanted. I came within few minutes. I just lied on top of her for few seconds and rolled over to her side. She had a slight puzzled face why had I finished so soon. Her arse had done the trick and I enjoyed those few minutes very well. I gave her 200 k tip and kissed her goodbye. Like yesterday I wanted to stick around and do another round but then there were so many other places to check out this being my maiden trip. I really enjoyed the girl selection, ambience and over all experience at Alexis and will recommend everyone to do atleast 1 session there. I paid the tab which came to approx. 1. 7 Mill and came back to Hotel. I rested and watched TV for some time, tried social apps but all I could get on WeChat were massage nos and I wasn't interested in those.

Overall experience 7/10.

[B]Hotel Classic (Basement Spa)
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I took a Bluebird to Classic Hotel at around 8 pm. As soon as I got in I saw the disco on the right I just peeked inside and it seemed empty so I went near the lift. I asked the liftman for the Spa. He pointed me downstairs. I had in mind to go to the 2nd floor. Nonetheless I walked the staird down to the spa. I was briefed about the charges and handed over a token. I went in and was in the spa. I didn't want to shower now. I walked into the main hall. As soon as I entered it was pitch black. I could barely see anything. A waiter came with a torch and led me to a vacant table. There were two guys making a selection on the table to my left. Girls were all lined up and the waiter was pointing his torch on each girls face and then body helping in selection. I was surprised as to why wouldn't they keep some lights on. I was seated near the entrance, to my right was the bar area and right in front of me after few tables was the Girls seating area by the wall. That area was completely lit up. Mamasan came to me and spoke something in Bahasa. I couldn't follow and asked her to speak in English. The waiter then stepped forward and spoke in broken English. He asked me whether I would like to see the girls. I nodded while sipping my beer. She then went and brought 4 girls. I asked the waiter who understood me if only these were available. He told me that others were busy. I pointed and asked her if he could get the mamasan to call some girls who were sitting near the wall or could I go and take a look. He said that I could go and have a look myself. While getting up I saw one girl up close and she seemed to fit my taste. However I walked towards where the girls were sitting. There were approx. 10 odd girls but they seemed too busy yawning or into their smartphones. I decided to get back to my table. As soon as I reached back I asked the waiter to tell mamasan to get the 4 girls back and I would make a selection out of them. She called them over and I selected the girl I had looked up close earlier. She came and sat beside me. The mamasan told me that It will cost me 800 k, which slightly puzzled me as I had 350 k in my head. Then I realized that that must be on the 2nd floor. The girl looked better than the one I had at Malioboro earlier day hence I decided to go ahead. The girl like her mamasan spoke no English so I asked the waiter to check whether the girl is ok and will I get good service. He spoke to the mamasan in Indo and she smiled and said all ok showing her fingers. She then whispered something in the girl's ear. The girl got up and led me to one of the rooms. Room was pretty small but clean. Barely space to take out ones clothes and get into the shower. I asked her name. She replied Fika or that is what I could catch. We got onto the shower wherein I noticed her amazing butt. We cleaned and got onto the bed. I pulled her besides me and kissed her. She came closer to me and kissed back. It seemed that mamasan had told her what to do. She got into DKF with me and reached her hand towards my dick. She started stroking me while kissing me at the same time. Fuel just enough to light my fire. Instant hard on followed. I sucked onto her juicy and soft be sized boobs. She started moaning softly. I was sucking her boobs and massaging her clit at the same time whereas she was stroking me. She then gave me a good BBBJ. I stopped her before I could lose control. She then got the Rubber on me. I started with missionary as I really wanted to keep on kissing her and suck her boobs. She had pouty lips and good tits. I thrusted her for some time and was almost about to come. I stopped and withdrew. I told her to change position and it was doggy time. Her arse was round and full, something I had not seen in Manila or AC. I just wanted to kiss her buns and I did. Then I entered her from behind. She was already wet and dripping. Maybe she must have come when she had moaned softly earlier. I entered her and started thrusting, enjoyed holding her buns and boobs alternating between them. I came shortly after. I just dropped on her side. She turned towards me and kissed me looking in the eye. I did not understand this. Thought maybe I was her first customer of the day or maybe I had made her come first time in the day. Didn't bother to ask as she would have not understood. I cleaned up and handed over a tip of 200 k. She had indeed taken care of me and given me a good session. She also smiled all the time which really made it more enjoyable. Well-earned tip for her. She walked me out, settled the tab and walked upstairs to the ground level.

Overall experience 8/10.

[B]Hotel Classic (2nd Floor)
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I wanted to check out the 2nd floor as well since many forum members has referred to it. I took the lift went upstairs and got in. It was a sausage fest inside. All I could see was men all around. I walked slowly by the wall and could see some women sitting in clusters. There were hardly 20-30 women and around 50+ men. I was wondering whether something was wrong. I walked on the left by the wall toward the end but all I could see were sad and bored faced of girls. Some were busy with their phones, some looked like they were drugged. I didn't like the scene at all. When I was walking back 1 mamasan approached me held my hand and took me towards the sofa where the girls were seated. I could see 4 or 5 sad faces looking down. They were not even making eye contact. I asked her how much, she said 350 k then she said 500 k if I take two. She just snapped her fingers and two girls stood up and came to me. I was in no mood or even if I was I wouldn't have had a session in such a surrounding. I said no to her and walked away. I had to pay 35 k as entrance fee and get the exit token since I had not taken any girl. I don't know if I had visited on an odd day or whether it was late in the day but I didn't feel comfortable there and didn't want to return. However I had in mind to also check the 5th floor in the next 2/3 days.

I was famished and decided to walk back to Mercure Kota and have food on the way. I walked back using google maps and decided to feed myself at Burger King on the way. I had 2 good sessions and wanted to go and rest. I was too tired from the walk and didn't venture out in the night. I tried social apps but nothing materialized so I went to sleep.

[B]May 6 (Day 13: Wednesday)
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As usual breakfast at Dunkin and wasted some time on social apps. I got some responses but nothing interesting. Quite surprising that when you message someone looking at her single pic one day makes you lose interest in her if she had changed her pic and is no longer that attractive. I spend some time but nothing concrete. I used Badoo, Tagged, Tango, Wechat, Skout, etc all apps I had installed.

I had Berlian and Kartika on my mind. Both were a stone's throw from the Hotel. The easiest way to get to them is to stand in front of the building on the square looking towards the 7/11 shop and get into the lane at right where the building ends.

I walked to Berlian around 3 pm. It really is a seedy lane with everyone staring at you while you are walking inside. I had left my wallet at home and was carrying about 500 k on me. I got into Berlian and there were 3 matured women sitting on the sofa inside. I asked if there were any more available and got no for an answer. I just walked out.

[B]Kartika
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I entered Kartika and there were about 12 women inside. They welcomed me and made me sit near the Bar. Since I was the only customer inside the mamasan asked me to take a pick. I told her that I needed some time and ordered a Guinness. There were couple of women seated to my left and right near the bar smiling at me expecting me to pick one of them. One thing immediately struck to me was all women were BBWs. Most of them past their prime and it was obvious from their faces and body. I continued sipping my beer with the mamasan coming every 5 minutes and me asking her to let me relax. I was in two minds whether to go away or try a session with one of the women. I was just not feeling the vibe to go for it. Suddenly a girl walked in who was slightly less fat than the others but not a slim lady by any chance. She had a sweet smile and was joking with some of the ladies. I had found my pick. I waved the mamasan over. She came smilingly that I had finally made a selection. I pointed at my choice. Immediately the women sitting to my left and right got back to their own businesses of doing nothing. The girl came over and asked me if we could go. I paid my Guinness tab and left a tip of 5 k. The bar lady couldn't control her happiness and thanked me profusely. I then paid 350 k at the counter besides the bar. The girl took me upstairs on the first floor. The room was slightly shoddy with open bathing area in one corner and a small bed on another. The girl then closed the door and put a chair to block it. There was a slit at the top of the door. I asked her if its ok, she said not to worry. I had no intention of getting filmed. I asked her name, it was Meta. Meta then showered me. There was a green plastic or vinyl sheet on the bed like in a hospital. She asked me to lie naked on the sheet. Meta then started the soapy massage and she rubbed her body making funny noises on my back with her body and more so her breasts. She continued rubbing me with her body for some time. Reminded me of EZ1 massage in Bangkok. She then asked me to turn over and continued rubbing me on front side. She then put both her legs under my thighs and pulled me close as if she had a dick and was going to enter me. I really found it funny. The soapy massage finally ended after few minutes. It is then I realized why these women needed to be BBWs. A slim gazelle would have never been able to do this with a guy of my or any other size. She then showered me again and wiped the sheet clean with a towel. She then lay a fresh bedsheet and asked me to lie down till she cleaned. She got on the bed and massaged my dick. She then put on a rubber with her mouth on my dick and gave me a CBJ. I was expecting a BBBJ. She got on top of me with and after few thrusts I asked her to change position. I entered her in miss, sampled her boobs which were big but very soft. I didn't kiss her and finished in some time in missionary. Got up and cleaned up. It is then I asked her how old she was to which she replied she was 25 and mother of 2 children. I gave her 50 k tip and she asked for 100 k. I said 50 k was good and maybe next time and walked out and back to the Hotel. The session has been extremely mechanical. I came but did not enjoy any piece of the session. I don't think I will be going back there again. I stayed at the hotel rest of the afternoon lazing in my room.

Overall experience 4/10.

[B]Hotel Travel
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I went to Travel hotel around 7 pm in the evening. I got in collected my token and sat at the first table in front of the girls. The must be around 4 seating areas with 10 to 12 girls each. Ample choice. Mamasan came over and immediately pointed the laser at one of her girls and called her over. I greeted the girl and told mamasan I need time. As soon as she left with her girl another mamasan did the same routine. I was feeling extremely uncomfortable and these were the pushiest Mamasans I has seen so far. I told the second one I need time and ordered for a Guinness. Unfortunately the girls brought to table seemed like the worst in the lot which not many would pick. The waiter brought me a big bottle and a glass full of ice. The beer was room temperature and it just disappointed me. I had no choice but to sip it. I looked around but the girls are seated slightly far and you don't get a good idea till they walk up to your table. I noticed one PYT sitting at the first sofa from the entrance in the corner. She was sitting quietly and it just got my attention. I signaled the mamasan to come over but she seemed busy showing her girls to other men who had just walked in. I waited few minutes and finally got her to come over. She came over and started pointing her laser to all other girls. I held her hand and pointed it towards the PYT. The mamsan called her over and smiled to me signaling good choice. The girl came over and sat with me. I asked her to her order a drink for herself which she did. Her name was Shelly. I assumed it must be her work name. We left to the room. She was extremely petite and cute. Small and slim body dimensions and was lacking the Indo buttI had got exposed to recently. The room was decent sized with an old CRT inside. She showered me. Session was decent with CBJ and no DFK. I started with WOT and finished in missionary. Gave her 100 k tip. My tab came to 470 k including 350 k for the session.

Overall experience 7/10.

I walked back towards the Hotel. Went to Burger King for some grub. Plan for the night was to go to CJs or BATS.

[B]CJs / BATS / Colosseum / Golden Crown
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I took Blue Bird to Mulia from my Hotel. I reached around 11.30. Paid in the 200 k entry drink fee. Live band was playing inside. I walked from the back taking a good look around upto the Bar near the Loo. There were some good women there but I couldn't spot many young girls. I stood near the bar for some time and got myself a Guiness. Not many good looking women near the bar. I stepped down near the counter from where all women go to the loo and got myself a space to lean on. The first one to approach me was Nika. She refused to talk any further and left when I told her I was staying in Kota. After a few minutes another one approached me, name was Indah. After initial pleasantries I asked her how much, she said 200 USD. I didn't even feel like negotiating and got hold of my pint and walked towards the bar area on the left of the entrance. Few women were sitting around but nothing caught my fancy. The live band took a break and some EDM was put on. I again strolled from the front side to see if I could find someone interesting but guess there weren't many young women that night. I strolled around and stood at different places but didn't find anyone. The women there were mature ones and I had LT in mind. I was not willing to pay crazy prices to these mature ones. After an hour I found myself back at the bar with seating area on the left of the entrance. The live bank was back and in full swing. Just then I was smoking and a girl entered the bar. She caught my fancy and I immediately smiled at her. She reciprocated and I signaled her towards me. She came and stood by me. She was a good looking one and had a young body, something that I had been looking for. Her name was Riska. After the initial chat I asked her how much was it going to cost me. She said that she did only ST and would cost me 1. 5 Mill and taxi money as I was staying in Kota. I told her that I will offer her 2 Mill for LT + taxi money and a good tip. She simply refused. She knew that she had just walked in and would quickly find someone as per her requirement. I contemplated for few minutes and told her I can't and I was sorry. She moved on. I decided to go to BATS as it was 1 am and there was a chance that I might find someone.

I took a taxi to Shangri La. Once inside I got myself a Corona. Looked around, not much of a crowd. This place was extremely sad. I should have stuck to CJs. Atleast there were some women there to look at. I scouted the entire bar and could spot only 2 good looking ones and both already had company. I finished my beer and took a cab to Mercure Kota. On way it struck me as it was barely 2 am I could go to a disco in Kota as those places really started getting crowd after 1 am. I asked the taxi driver whether he knew where Colosseum was and he nodded positively.

I got in after paying 150 k for a glass of draft Heineken. This place was big but not as huge as the main disco in Golden crown. I walked in and took a good look around. Luckily Colosseum has this lighting on the ceiling which they use often which is really helpful in looking at people faces otherwise the places goes completely dark in between. I walked upto the DJ and then back checking if anything was available. There were some really beautiful women but in groups or accompanied by guys. I came back and got seated near the bar, got my beer and faced turned towards the DJ. There was a couple to my left and two girls sitting to my right. They were pretty young and seem to be having a good time. It seemed to me that game was available and I need to hang around and explore. I could see women going back and forth to the loo and some of these girls were really sexy and beautiful. It must have been 15 minutes that I was there when two young guys approached the girls sitting beside me and they spoke Indo. It seemed that the guys were inviting the girls over to their table. After some talks the girls agreed. The guys were quite mature and in no way would the girls have gone there only for drinks. There had to be a financial transaction behind this interaction. I wish I knew Bahasa and would have been able to figure out what they talked. The chairs got empty and I was still scouting. Sometime later two girls walked up to the bar counter. I smiled at them and they smiled back. One of the girl approached me. On coming closer I could figure that she was a mature one and the other was chubby one. The mature one also had braces. She asked me if I spoke Bahasa and I said no. The usual chat, where from, why visiting, etc. The mature one told me their names but I couldn't get them and didn't ask again thinking they would leave after they got their drinks. The chubby one was good looking and much younger but didn't speak or understand a word of English. The mature one was doing all the talking. The mature one suddenly offered to me whether I would like massage with both of them. I said yes but not with two of them. I was thinking of taking the chubby one as she had a good body and just the right amount of fat to enjoy her through the night. The mature one said its 500 k each for 2 hours and I need to take both. I was in a fix. I thought maybe I will take both and screw only the chubby one. But then I thought what if I get to the room and the mature one wants to bed me and the chubby one doesn't partake. It was a tough decision but I declined. I didn't want to waste 1 Mill for possibility of a good fuck with one of them. I told her that either I take the chubby and give 700 k or no deal. Surprisingly they refused took their drink and went to their table near the DJ. I then stood up and walked around. There were few more women available but mature or old hags and I wasn't interested in taking them. One thing I realized is that the local Indo girls were also available as a lot of them gave me positive stares but didn't smile. Maybe the language was a barrier for them. I didn't approach any of them as they were in groups and I did not want to make an arse out of myself. I stuck for some more time, finished my glass of beer and walked out.

It was 4 am and I decided to go to the second small disco in Golden crown. I took a Bluebird and reached there in 10 minutes. Luckily the taxi guy dropped me in front of the plaza and I didn't have to pay for parking charges or ask for the change. I took the lift up from the basement and went to the 6th or top floor. The entrance fee counter was closed and I just walked in. I went and stood near the bar at the back. The place was pitch black today. I somehow managed to order myself a Corona. As I was sipping I spotted 2 girls whom I had seen earlier in Colosseum. I now thought for sure it was a possibility that they were working girls. I looked and smiled at them but did not get any response. A local guy just walked and spoke to them. One of the girl spoke to him and then he just walked away. I decided to go to them and chat up. Before I could make my move another 2 guys engaged them and after some chat the girls got up and went with them to their table. Not my day I thought. One thing is for sure that one needs to have some Bahasa under his belt to pick local girls in discos. There are pro girls but mostly mature or old hags. The young ones don't seem as interested in foreigners. I called it a night and was back to Hotel.

[B]May 7 (Day 14: Thursday)[/B]

Started my day with breakfast as usual at Dunkins, did some social app browsing. I have been seeing massage ads a lot on WeChat so decided to give it a try for in call. I zeroed in on Naura Massage. Asked for pics, some real good ones were send. I then asked which lady was available so I was sent pic of a very young and sexy lady. Looked like the typical next door girl. Price quoted was 300 k for 2 hours. I made it clear that if any other lady came I would send her back. Time was fixed at 3 pm. I went to room and waited. Girl didn't turn up at 3. 45 pm. Around 4 pm I got a call from reception that there is a lady to see me. I confirmed with reception that whether it was a lady to which they affirmed. I asked her to be sent up. I thought maybe I am going to have a good time. The doorbell rang and I opened the door. I couldn't believe my eyes. My heart just sank. There was an old and ugly hag standing at the door. I was speechless and didn't know what to do. She came in. I had to cook up something and get her out. I told her that since she had come an hour late I couldn't avail the massage and I had to go to South Jakarta. She started cribbing and asking money. I told her that all I can do is give her taxi money and maybe call her back later when I was in room. Surprisingly she agreed but wanted to talk to her massage parlour owner. I told her to go ahead, in the meantime I dug out a 20 k rupiah note from my wallet and waited for her to finish. Once she finished I handed over the note to her but she seemed displeased. I told her I am getting late and will call her back. I still cannot believe she fell for it. I was thinking maybe she will extract the entire 300 k from me before leaving the room. I as am lucky that she left with a 20 k note. I vowed to myself that I would never get anyone directly to my room henceforth. It took me a good hour and couple of smokes to come out of the setback.

I had thought about going to Kings cross but had not found much reviews on ISG before my trip. I searched online to see if anyone had posted any FRs on web. I could only check feedback on jakarta100 bars and it was not positive. I was also getting constant messages from Siskaa at Malioboro to visit her again. But who repeats a girl unless it's a 9/10. I has done Alexis twice and was not too keen on going back to Classic either. I googled for feedback on Fashion, Emporium and many other spas but nothing was too positive. I decided to go to Classic instead and thought will check the 5th floor.

[B]Hotel Classic (5th Floor)
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I reached Classic around 6. 30 pm. I took the lift directly to 5th floor. I got my token and walked in. The customer area to the right was completely deserted with barely 2 or 3 people. The girls seating area had approx. 40 odd women and I could definitely select one for the evening. I took a seat. A Mamasan immediately came to me and asked me which girl I liked. I told her I need time and ordered a Guinness. I looked at the girls carefully checking their face, bodies and behavior. I spotted one girl with short hair and thought she definitely would be the one. I signaled the mamasan over. I showed her the girl and as usual her laser pointed to all except that girl I wanted. I held her hand and guided the laser to the girl. She came over and stood beside me. I shook her hands and asked her name. Her work name was Linda. I was impressed by her slender body, pouty lips and amazing curvy arse. She had A sized breasts but her rest of the body made up for it. I asked her to order for a lady drink. She ordered for her drink. We chatted a bit, she could speak in broken English and understood what I was saying. I felt quite comfortable. Mamasan asked me to pay 350 k which I did. Little surprised that I had to pay upfront as in other bars and even the basement spa the amount was collected when I paid the bill. I ignored. We then went to the room downstairs one floor. Once inside she ordered for a pack of Marlboro menthols. I couldn't refuse. Usual shower followed. She started with kissing the area around my navel including my balls. I was ready for her to take my dick into her mouth but she was playing with me. She got me a hard on and I asked her to suck me off. She then got the rubber and put it on my dick with her mouth. I was disappointed but carried along. CBJ was ok, nothing great then she mounted me. We went on for some time then I got her in missionary. She did not allow DFK but small kisses. I was not ok but now was into the session halfway. I turned her around and started pounding her from the back. I took some time before I came. We were both sweating profusely and exhausted. I lied for few minutes besides her without speaking anything and just panting. I got up and went into the shower to cool off. She cleaned after me. I tipped her 100 k to which she asked for more. I said I was not very happy due to CBJ and no DFK. She said she was having a bad cold hence couldn't DFK. I said it was too late and she could have told me earlier. I walked out and into the main hall. I then realized that I was sitting in the first half of the bar. The second half was on other side and it has equal no of girls. In total there would have been somewhere between 80 to 100 girls on the floor at that time and barely 4 or 5 customers. I took a walk to the far end of the main hall and saw that there were equally good women on the other side and if I stayed for some more time I could make another selection. I eventually didn't and got out. I would definitely recommend the 5th floor over the 2nd floor at Classic. Women quality and quantity is much more. I also enjoyed the basement spa though expensive was a good experience for me.

Overall experience at 5th floor 7/10.

I walked up to Mc Donald's for some food and then walked all the way back to Mercure Kota. My plan was to go to CJs and try my luck again tonight. If things didn't go well then I wanted to go to Blok M.

[B]CJs / X2 / Immigrant
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I took Blue Bird to Cjs and reached around 11.00 pm. Paid in the 200 k entry drink fee. As soon as I entered I could see the same crowd that I had seen earlier night. I tried to look for Riska but she was nowhere to be seen. I took my beer and did circle the place for some time scouting for potential company. CJs had let me down again. I simply couldn't find anyone interesting enough to pay 2 or 3 Mill for LT. I decided to get out so walked and stood near the bar on the left of entrance for a smoke. One girl approached me and started chatting. As soon as I mentioned that I was staying in Kota she withdrew and walked away. I thought maybe I should go back to Kota and visit Colosseum or Golden crown.

I was waiting for a Bluebird taxi and got talking to the security guys standing outside. One of them suggested that I should try X2 as it was close and had a lot of young crowd. I took the next bluebird and reached X2. I paid the cover charge of 100 k and got in. Bought myself a Corona and got a pint of water in lieu of the entry charge paid. I walked around but there were any single or group of girls in sight. Place was good and lighting was good but no women available. I finished my beer and decided to move on. I took a blue bird and asked him to take me to Immigrant disco in Plaza Indonesia. I got down on the main road paid the taxi guy and walked in. There were some security guys sitting at the entrance who told me that the club was closed for the day and I should come back the next day. I asked them why so early. Answer was that club closed every day at 2 am. I didn't realize that it was that early in the night for a club to close in Jakarta. I took another taxi and decided to go back to the hotel.

Once I reached my room and changed I was checked my social apps for any response I had received. I had received revert from a Viet girl on Wechat and she was interested in meeting me. I asked her price and she instantly replied 2 mill ST and 3. 5 mill LT. I was getting ready to sleep hence thought why not waste some time chatting with her. I asked her to send me more pics and she did. She was indeed beautiful. I told her that I was going back to Singapore and ST there was 100 SGD. She replied 200 SGD ST. We eventually negotiated for her to stay till 12 pm next day as I was going to check out at 1 pm and I offered 250 SGD LT. I told her that if she's any different from the pic I am going to send her back without paying anything. I also told her that I will pay her in SGD as I had only 2 mill in IDR. She asked me my room no. I told her that I will meet her in the lobby. I didn't want any fiasco at this time of the night. True to her word her taxi arrived within 15 minutes. I too a good look at her and she was better than her pics. Slender body, beautiful face. I escorted her to my room. She then told me that she was working for a Karaoke nearby and went on calls when she needed some extra money. We showered together and she cleaned me up well. On to bed and we kissed like crazy. She was the best snogger I had come across on this trip. She then gave me an excellent BBJ. The girl knew what she was doing and she was really good at it. She also had one of the firmest breasts I have even felt till date. We really had an amazing round of sex in miss, WOT, sideways and finished eventually in doggy position. I was panting and nearly out of breath when we finished. I couldn't believe that this was one of the best sessions I had in this trip. We got up and cleaned up and went to sleep. The next thing I remember is waking up next to her with her arms around my tummy and her body coiled up next to mine. My movements woke her up. She got up and went to the loo. I went in next and within minutes of being back in bed we were at it again. Sweet taste of her lips just got me a hard on. She gave me an amazing blow job and wanted me to come in her mouth but I stopped her. I wanted to fuck her again so got my Sagami on and went in missionary. She came before me and almost dug her nails into my shoulder. I turned her over and thrusted her in doggy for the next couple of minutes till I finished. It was gratifying sex with her. It was one of the best sessions I had enjoyed in this trip. We lay for some time and kissed each other. She told me that as she had to get back. I wanted her to stay as it was hardly 11 am and we could have managed another round. But I eventually let her go. Her name was Belle. I gave her 250 SGD and tipped her 200 k IDR. We were both happy with this transaction. I rest for another hour before I was due to check out and head for the airport. I was booked on the 5. 35 pm Air Asia flight to Singapore.

Overall experience 8. 5/10.

I am now working on a trip to Vietnam after this experience. Hope I am able to plan one as it will mean skipping AC or Pattaya.

[B]Summary of my experience in Jakarta:
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[B]1. [/B]FL scene in Jakarta was nonexistent or at least I didn't come across any good ones. I had to hang up my gun on the wall during these 5 days. There was simply no game to hunt.

[B]2. [/B]The spa scene is good for a single visit but I don't see myself going back to Jakarta again only to meet girls in spa or massage parlour. It's like shooting chicken in a pen with a bazooka.

[B]3. [/B]There needs to be something done about the lighting in Discos. I still cannot understand why every place is Pitch Dark.

[B]4. [/B]Malio Club had the best looking girls I have come across in entire Jakarta. Request if some member can help me know the MO of enjoying their company. I would definitely return soon if I can take these girls to bed. Don't mind paying 2 Mill ST.

[B]5. [/B]Local food in Jakarta is something I didn't try. I am very comfortable with street food in Thailand and even tried in Philippines but couldn't dare to in Jakarta. Maybe I need to do some reading if I am going to visit again.

[B]6. [/B]CJs and BATS were a big letdown like Kartika. Maybe the good days for these places are over or they are going through real tough times.

[B]7. [/B]Social media app scene was also very poor compared to Philippines or Thailand.

[B]8. [/B]There is not much of a price advantage compared to Thailand or Philippines It all added up in the end.

[B]9. [/B]I got a mix of CBJ and BBBJ in the sessions I had unlike Philippines where I completely enjoyed BBBJ and liked it. DFK was also not assured in all session. Never tried Greek so cannot comment on that.

[B]10. [/B]I felt that local language would have been an advantage while picking up local girls in Discos. I found the non or semi pro girls slightly reserved towards foreigners.

[B]11. [/B]8 out of 10 blue bird guys never gave change back to me. So much for honesty. I can only imagine how bad other operators might be.

[B]12. [/B]I had read well and had planned my trips to avoid traffic jam and was quite successful in doing so on ground.

[B]13. [/B]I couldn't make it to Blok M this time. I sure will if I return.

[B]14. [/B]Girl tantrums were existent. I found girls to be more hardcore or pro comparatively maybe because these places have girls with that kind of behavior.

[B]15. [/B]I would not recommend Jakarta as a repeat destination just basis of my single 5 day visit. My schedule is blocked in the current year till December with repeat visit to Philippines and Thailand. If time permits I might plan a visit early next year post reading on ISG thread about how the scene is on ground. I would definitely not come back purely to bed girls in the spa or massage parlours, Thailand is much better in comparison for that.

Thanks to Smoothy, Fast Eddie48, Studbucket, Menteng, Dorman and other members who had provided valuable inputs for me to plan my trip optimally and enjoy whatever Jakarta had to offer.

Continued in Geylang, Singapore

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1725469]You can get some of them for a cool million if it's near closing time and they haven't done a trick yet or if the rent needs to be paid the following day.

Jakarta has always been a buyer's market. Same goes for BATS by the way. Oh, and don't tell them it's your first time in Indonesia or that you're a business traveler.[/QUOTE]I'm no fan of CJ's. The married man's swinger club, the "dj" only plays pre mixed Guetta, most of the male singers have been chosen for their looks and ability to please the cougars after the set is finished, not their vocals. The humourless tall China dolls / mannequins perched in a row as you walk from one bar to another are particularly creepy.

But I do respect that we all need to scratch a living. I spoke to Loopy Lou one of the bouncy manado girls about the going rate (at a hairdressers where she also models), and she confirmed 1. 5 m is the fixed rate. She pointed out she spends 2 x RP100 000 on Taxi's, RP 180 000 on entrance fee and probably about Rp 200 000 on hair styling, new dresses and makeup per visit.

So 1. 5 m is a reasonable and fair figure to agree to in the current climate.

If you don't speak any Indonesian or dialects it is quite clear you are a new arrival or business traveller, so like everything in life it is easier to stick to the truth.

Sinyo Tambora.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1725388]
You know that I am all about the FL scene. What is the going rate for FL's at CJ's?
[/QUOTE]Andre, I think you are really going to like CJ's especially on Wednesday night and the weekends. A ton of girls show up and the overall quality is high. And BTW, not all the girls are FL's. But I can usually tell who's who and I like the option to go after a talented amateur if I so choose. Remember, just because amateurs don't accept payment for sex doesn't mean they don't want to shag.

My CJ girl for example has a 9 to 5 regular job and I would classify her as a part time FL. She has amateur friends that like to go to CJ's for a night out and party. Marsya wanted 2,000,000 rp. Long term was implied. I gave her my "that's a crazy price" look, but I could see she was fixed on that amount so I agreed to it because A) I really liked her and B) I wanted to get the issue out of the way so we could both concentrate on having a good time. I never like to negotiate. I feel negotiation can kill the vibe and with it a punter runs the risk of winning the bargaining battle but losing the GFE war. In those situations when I think a girl has asked too much ie her price is significantly higher than market price; I tell her so and I am prepared to politely walk away after I finish my drink. Thus I give the girl in question adequate time to reconsider her offer and negotiate herself down if she wants to, otherwise I look elsewhere. But in this case, Marsya was very attractive and quite demure. It was relatively early (around 11 pm) and I knew she was not going to come down in price unless I wanted to gamble and wait her out until 3 am.

I know 2 mil is an outrageous sum especially considering that just a couple of years ago the price was 1 mil and less, but I do not believe I overpaid. 2 mil is the current CJ's market price and it is what the majority of the better looking CJ girls are currently asking and receiving for LT. The less popular girls are asking 2 mil too, but they will settle for less. The real issue here is about the tremendous run up in the price of quality pussy in ALL the sex capitals of Asia over the last 5 years or so. This price increase has been incredible both in terms of its size and rapidity and I do not believe it is sustainable in the long run. Unfortunately, I can't predict how high the market price will go before it affects demand. For example, next year will popular CJ FL's be asking 3 mil for LT and getting it? Will BKK Go Go's be charging 2000 bt barfines and the Go Go girls asking 4000 bt for ST? I don't know. Maybe! What I do know is that sooner or later these huge price increases will have to affect aggregate demand and when that happens the Asian sex market bubble will burst.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1725605]
I am now working on a trip to Vietnam after this experience. Hope I am able to plan one as it will mean skipping AC or Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the informative post, my friend.

I just got back form VN. A lot of ready and willing girls on wechat. And, judging form the pics, great lookers too. They are asking from between 50 and 100 for ST. I could not verify the pics or partake as I was preoccupied with the two hunnies I was visiting. Just killing some time on Wechat in whiel waiting for my girls to come over. But it may be a gold mine for someone tht knows how to maneuver it.

Otherwise the mongering scene doe not seem all that promising, especially compared to Patts. Still I have had great times with my two Viet girls. They are just so pretty and real tigresses in bed. And tender and loving too. I am hooked!

[B]Few things which I didnt bother to ask the mamasan or papasan is whether the bikini or dancer girls in the Malio club are bar finable. Similarly are the dancer girls in the main hall area also available. These girls were much better looking with great bodies compared to the girls available through papasan. I didnt have access to the forum to post this query at that time and left without exploring it much further. I wouldnt have minded paying 2 mill or more for some of those girls as they were totally worth it. Request if forum members can throw some light on this subject. [/B]

It's basically down to the relationship between you and the girl. The bikini dancers are paid Rp 22 million per month as a basic net salary. This means most will be driving their own cars back to an apartment after hours and too tired for extras or some of the educated ones may be paying their way through university.

My advice is listen to what the girls offer you. My fav. Bikini girl offered me a blowjob upstairs after one LD and a discussion of her plans for a career outside Malio and I agreed, she was truly excellent showhorse and wouldn't stop the BBBJ long after I came. She actually picked me up in her car up after the club closed and we went for chicken porridge but it was a platonic post-work food thing.

I've also discussed life with those bikini / nude girls in Malio and found out quite a few are genuine virgins, waiting for marriage. They'll let you touch them to enhance their salary a further 10 -15 m per month but that is strictly it. So it's very much down to the individual girl but I'm sure 2 m would cover it. The only place I've come across a BF in Indonesia is Batam BTW.

Maybe ask where the girls are from. Sundanese girls may have great Latino bodies but they perform poorly (SUka Nya Duit Aja). If you need help try and find a gay papasan as they tend to be more honest. Choose a girl with an urban upbringing Jakarta, Makassar, Medan etc. Look at the teeth and feet, feel how hard the palms are etc.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1725635]
I know 2 mil is an outrageous sum especially considering that just a couple of years ago the price was 1 mil and less, but I do not believe I overpaid. 2 mil is the current CJ's market price and it is what the majority of the better looking CJ girls are currently asking and receiving for LT. The less popular girls are asking 2 mil too, but they will settle for less. [/QUOTE]Agreed. If you want one of the best looking ones who can get a customer every day of the week, you are going to pay 1. 5 short time or 2 to 2. 5 million long time. The less popular girls can be had for 1 million. Getting them for less than that is very difficult. As Egy says, if you wait until closing time, the prices drop and you have more bargaining power. However, the best looking girls will go home alone rather than take less than 1. 5. At least that's my experience.