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Biden politics. Give money away to buy votes for next election. Let next president figure out a way to pay for it. White House yesterday finally admitted that there was no plan on how to pay for their latest giveaway of billions of dollars to dead beat democrats who got a BS degree in 8 years of college, won't pay the money back and can't get a job now.
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The truth about Ukraine in 2015 is far different. There was no "coup. " [/QUOTE]So I guess the then-CIA director John Brennan just happened to be in Kiev on holiday at the time of the coup? Boy, what a coincidence!
Oh, and then there's the leaked recording of the phonecall between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US ambassador to Ukraine, in which they discuss who is to be the figurehead of their puppet government: [URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ukraine-tape-idUSBREA1601G20140207[/URL].
No outside interference at all. Entirely organic. And Joe Biden has the sharpest mind in Washington.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2737905]Lightening can indeed strike twice. Finally I agree with smthg you wrote.
The USA government hypocrisy is deafening. They accuse Syria of terrorism, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, when the truth is they just want to steal their oil. They accuse Afgstn, Somalia, Ethiopia, All are terrorists. Really? No, the only consistent terrorist here is the USA. They terrorise the entire world, extorting countries to submit to their neo-imperialism. Yet, they have the temerity to call out other countries for invasions, even when they WERE provoked! This video demonstrates it rather well:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLfrpBkX8Os[/URL][/QUOTE]You're a better poster than the standard wacko left dem douches because you don't deny the reality of the terrible problems caused by the nefarious Washington swamp. Unfortunately, your solutions are ridiculous communist bullshit which wouldn't fix anything. But halfway is better than nothing. You aren't a completely lost cause.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2738205]No it wasn't a coup. Yanukovich illegally ordered the murder of civilian protesters..[/QUOTE]Yanukovich was the legitimately elected president. He was not removed via constitutional means but via a violent mob.
The irony is quite astonishing, and yet another example of the cognitive dissonance of the fake news-brainwashed wacko left dem douches: you claim Jan 6, in which some unarmed people walked peacefully through open doors, waved in by cops, took some selfies and left, to be an "insurrection" and "attempted coup; but you call the Ukraine coup, in which an armed, violent mob, organized and directed by CIA Director John Brennan who was in Kiev at the time, stormed govt buildings by force and killed several people, to be a legitimate transfer of power.
The hypocrisy, mendacity and lack of any connection to reality of these leftists is quite something to behold.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2738095]Wasn't that the background score to Benny Hill chasing the hot girls around LMAO.
I loved that damn show in the 70's.
Picture if you will ET running around chasing the putas around naked in BKK with his pecker in one hand and his cellphone in the other typing out his ISG.
Pro Biden Baghdad / Bangkok Bob drivel 24/7 with his big Benny Hill grin LMAO.[/QUOTE]Ha! Actually laughed out loud.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2738153]Yeah, that's some safe and calm retreat, you're on over in the Pattaya forum. I was looking forward to a report or two on your Pattaya experiences,[/QUOTE]Scouring through my old posts now? No doubt up all night thinking about me too. Thank god this forum is anonymous or I imagine you'd be showing up at my house.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2738081][URL]https://www.aol.com/news/senate-gop-candidate-blake-masters-022126569.html[/URL]
coming from Bidens "WOKE" DOJ/FBI not surprised at all
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fbi-sexual-abuse-children/2022/08/30/id/1085307/
Im guessing there are many friends of J Epstein and Bubba at the FBI, in SLC no less friends and/or appointees of Mittens also?
Allahu Akbar
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ohio-supreme-court-refuses-to-hear-oberlin-colleges-appeal-to-pay-36-million-in-racism-defamation-verdict/[/QUOTE]Yup. Masters is correct, and not only about the Fed. Affirmative action and woke tranny bullshit is harming military recruitment too. Not surprising when you look at recent recruitment ads and the woke pronouncements of General "Thoroughly Modern" Millie.
The latte-sipping genderfluid soyboys and insta*****s they seem to be targeting are never going to join in up (they might break a nail or an eyelash), and most immigrants don't give a shit about the country except for what they can get out of it, so why would they risk their lives for it? All it does is discourage the tough, masculine heritage American men who make up the backbone of the force.
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/26/exclusive-qualified-air-force-academy-applicants-drop-46-amid-recruiting-crisis/[/URL]
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Well let's see, Russia has an economy about the size of the state of Texas, and are dwarfed economically by the US and many western Euro countries that value diversity. In fact the greatest army on the planet, the US, is of the very most diverse entities. The Russian army though with their brilliant death trap "jack in the box" tanks and outdated equipment from the Afghan war has suffered in the range of 80 K casualties trying to conquer a much smaller neighbor.[/QUOTE]LOL. Imagine actually unironically doing the "diversity is our strength" schtick in 2022. See my previous post for how diversity is destroying the US military. And imagine mentioning Afghanistan when trying to hype up the US military. Yes, the same Afghanistan that just inflicted the most humiliating defeat and retreat in the history of said military.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2738034]Really? Lolol Then why did they tuck tail and run from Kyiv[/QUOTE]Again, an ignorant Western fake news-washed take. The Kiev (not "Kyiv") fake attack was a short-term feint to tie down huge numbers of Ukrainian troops while Russia and the DPR and LPR forces carried out important maneouvres in the east. The tiny number of troops deployed by Russia show that they never intended to capture the city. They don't want Kiev; they want the Russian-speaking areas in the south and east.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2738034]Not to mention that from many reports there are serious morale and logistical problems. Here's one.
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/08/22/russian-paratrooper-ukraine-war-chance-putin-dnt-ebof-vpx.cnn[/URL][/QUOTE]ROFL. One single goofy doofus on fake news CNN. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a crisis actor.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2738034]This is false. Russia has been using reserve units.
[URL]https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/explainer-russian-conscription-reserve-and-mobilization[/URL]
Mass mobilization of troops and industry in Russia requires a declaration of war, but that means giving up the "special military operation"[/QUOTE]What? First you say Russia is mobilizing, then you say they aren't mobilizing because they haven't declared war. Get your story straight, doofus.
The reality is that Russia has gone in soft, with an undermanned force, and a very limited bombing campaign. They could have turned the whole of Ukraine to rubble as the US did in Iraq, but they haven't.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2738034]You are just parroting Russian state propaganda. No "hiding" is necessary[/QUOTE]Amnesty International just released a report stating that Ukrainian troops are hiding behind human shields. [URL]https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/[/URL].
"Ukrainian forces have put civilians in harm's way by establishing bases and operating weapons systems in populated residential areas, including in schools and hospitals.
Such tactics violate international humanitarian law and endanger civilians, as they turn civilian objects into military targets.
"We have documented a pattern of Ukrainian forces putting civilians at risk and violating the laws of war when they operate in populated areas," said Agnès Callamard, Amnesty International's Secretary General. ".
I'll accept your grovelling apology tomorrow.
The rest of your fake news rubbish is barely worth looking at. Europe is having an energy crisis so bad that German ministers are telling people to wipe themselves with a damp towel instead of taking a shower. Energy prices have skyrocketed and people will die of cold this winter as they cannot afford both eating and heating.
And your 80 k Russian deaths figure is laughably absurd. There are hardly that many Russian troops there. They are winning all the same.
As for our enemy, the real enemy of the heritage American people is the Washington swamp. Putin didn't open our borders or cut our kids' dicks off. (Protip: whenever there's a conflict, the side with child trannies are the bad guys).
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2738002]Good summary, Chris. Yeah, Biden's last stand with Russia was when Putin asked Biden if he was willing to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden said no and then Putin went in. Putin had no choice, and Biden wanted war. Why do we even have NATO now?
The irony is these days most wars seem to be about energy. The whole Syria fiasco was about a natural gas pipeline through Syria from Saudi Arabia. It did not even benefit us, but we seemed to be willing to do anything to placate Saudi Arabia or we were until we became energy independent. So why are we there now when we can be supplying Europe natural gas instead of Russia or Saudi Arabia? Because Biden is pro-war, and he wants to hurt American energy companies and hand over Europe's electricity market to the Saudis.
In the mean time, Europe and especially Germany is set to freeze its asses off this winter. Prices are through the roof there, and Europe is going into recession. I wonder how those solar panels will work this winter. Was there any idea more stupid than solar power in Germany?
Every citizen there will be praying for global warming come this winter. You can't make this shit up.
Thing is I think most Republicans were willing to transition to non-polluting nuclear and near non-polluting natural gas for electricity and away from polluting coal. As long as the change was gradual, I would be all for that.
Before the move to sell LNG and natural gas prices skyrocketed, natural gas powered cars made sense. Hell, even having a second vehicle that is electric for shorter trips can make sense for some people.
But the idea we get all our power from solar and wind is beyond stupid and now we have California banning the sale of all cars that are not electric, and we have to do it to save the planet? Say what? We have had 20 years until the earth for the last 40 years now. Even Elon Musk had to come out and speak in favor of fossil fuels.
You would think we would hold these fucking scientists accountable for being wrong but like with Fauci and lockdowns, they get a pass. Can you imagine how fucked up we would be this winter if we Republicans had not stood up to these blowhards?
My God, these dumb Dems are so stupid with their virtue signaling and fucking hysteria. We do not want to catch Covid or be breathing in dirty air either but maybe the choices need not involve destroying freedom or going cold in the winter.[/QUOTE]Yes, the sensible thing would have been to say that Ukraine wouldn't join NATO, but continue integrating it toward the West. Russia wouldn't have had a casus belli. They hadn't invaded in the 8 years since the 2014 CIA coup so there was no reason they would have without the NATO idiocy.
The swamp got greedy. They thought they could take out Putin and get Russia into the Globohomo system. Instead, they have made Putin more popular than ever, made the Russian military battle-hardened, and by moronically increasing the price of Russia's oil and gas made Russia's economy stronger while the West enters recession and double-digit inflation. And they're losing the war too. It reminds me of that clown continually stepping on rakes which smack him in the face.
As for power, solar and wind are bullshit. The cost (financial and "carbon") to construct those massive windmills is vast, and they only work for a few years (killing vast numbers of birds) before they give up the ghost and have to be taken down and disposed of. The whole thing is a big grift where favored companies (probably friends of Biden and Pelosi) get huge taxpayer-funded govt grants for their worthless shit that doesn't work. Michael Moore, of all people, produced a surprisingly good film about the renewables scam called Planet of the Humans.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2738224]You are ascribing to me an argument I didn't use. What I think I said was that the OP to whom I was replying loved posting pro-Russian propaganda so much that he ought to live in Russia. What I believe I didn't say was that living in Russia gives somebody a greater insight into reality.
BTW, 81 million folks from the USA have a very clear understanding of what happened in the 2019 presidential election. 74 million do not.[/QUOTE]I've been to Russia a few times and can say its the closest thing to Heaven on Earth.
I wish I could live there, the only thing that sucks is the weather.
You won't find better people anywhere on this shithole planet!!
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2738216]Yep.
It is very likely that [B]either[/B] the "video surveillance footage" of the Mar-a-Lago storage room where Donnie the Dumbass kept his illegally obtained classified information [B]or[/B] witness testimony, led the DOJ to believe that Donnie the Dumbass had records moved from the storage room to other parts of his residence. "The government also developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed from the Storage Room and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government's investigation," the department said in a filing in USA District Court in the Southern District of Florida. [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/u-justice-dept-responds-trump-033151965.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]I told you that you had to have threats of the documents being destroyed to justify a warrant. Documents were moved around? Big fucking deal. A warrant is a massive and unjustified overreaction to that.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2738216]And furthermore, the Government says that Donnie the Dumbass brought all of this on himself. Had he just returned the classified documents as requested, none of this would have happened. Which begs the question, did Donnie the Dumbass purposely withhold the documents to see what the DOJ would do? [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/justice-department-offers-scathing-response-035001888.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]LOL. The FBI stepped on its dick again. Taking photos of classified information (as the FBI just did) is illegal. As Trump said, it is good thing he declassified them or whomever took that photo belongs in jail.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2738216]The moron brigade will, however, try to spin this. Probably with a "but the search warrant" or "but her emails" deflection.[/QUOTE]You are the moron because you still do not get it. Did anyone dispute there were documents marked as classified? No one I know did, so what is the point of showing the photo? Here is a hint. The FBI is getting desperate.
Why did the FBI and DOJ react like this? Because Trump wanted a "special master" to look at the documents. A "special master" is a an objective third party like a former judge who will review the documents and the FBI and DOJ are vehemently opposed to an independent third party looking at them. Gee, I wonder why.
Your Yahoo article was practically written by the FBI, and this is so stupid I cannot believe you buy it. "Even if Trump did, in fact, declassify all of the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago, it might not make a difference. Legal experts have pointed out that none of the criminal provisions listed in the FBI's search warrant as the basis of their investigation have anything to do with whether or not the materials in question were classified. ".
So they possibly illegally take a photo of classified information and now say that documents being classified does not matter? LOL. That is the brilliant FBI for you.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2738216]If the documents actually were declassified, that means that anybody in the entire world ought to have access to them. Do you agree? And furthermore, if the documents in question were declassified, why did Donnie the Dumbass have them? They are part of the public record and he was illegally in possession of them.[/QUOTE]Are you really that dumb? How many times has Trump gone to war with the FBI, and you dumb Dems have taken the FBI's side and lost? Trump said the FBI spied on him during his campaign. You dumb Dems say there was no way that happen. Yeah, it was true. He fires Comey for fucking with his administration. You guys declare that an outrage then Comey admits he was doing just that. Hell, Comey even leaked a document (funny like Hiliary he was not prosecuted either. Gee why was that?
This latest outrage was because the FBI does not want anyone seeing those documents. Obviously, you missed that part. And hell yeah, if the documents have been declassified and belong to us, I sure as hell want to see them and what all this fuss is about. Now the content of the documents will be known to someone else.
You must be in favor of the National Archives and FBI keeping documents where the FBI fucked up from public eyes. Yeah, you government loving Democratic morons think our government never fucks up. That is why having amnesia in part of being a Dem.
And the two latest Garland initiatives. We are going to wait until after the mid terms to decide on criminal activity. HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yeah, this was not a political move but we are waiting until after the midterm elections before doing anything. Remember Garland is not on SCOTUS due to Trump, no conflict there.
And the other is FBI agents can no longer go to political functions. This is so Garland. We want to try to not appear to be political even though everyone knows we are.
I told you the purpose of this was never to prosecute Trump but get the documents because they make the FBI look like shit and now someone is going to get to see what they are. You are just so stupidly anti-Trump you do not see it.
What you do not get is that federal law is so broad that you can nail anyone for anything, and that is why it is super important to have an objective and consistent law enforcement which we do not have.
You are so stupid you probably buy the line that DOJ is looking into Hunter Biden and waiting to make its case. What a crock. Hunter incriminates himself on his own fucking laptop. There is no "making the case". Just like sitting on the Trump case for political purposes, the DOJ is doing the same damned thing with Hunter.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2737970]LOL. That means nothing. You need to go back and educated yourself as to why the founding fathers outlawed general warrants.
The DOJ's own rules say they are supposed to use the least aggressive means possible to seize things. So whatever the affidavits said, they had better say that Trump threatened to destroy or move the documents. If they do not, you Dems are fucked and of course they do not and that is why the affidavits were redacted. [/QUOTE]Wrong wrong wrong Fat Elvis. The FBI pulled over 300 classified documents out of the criminal headquarters at Mar-a-Lago.
Double Agent TrumpShit had Top Secret Files in his desk.
Double Agent TrumpShit had Top Secret files in a box in his bedroom. In the TrumpShit safe too.
Double Agent TrumpShit even had torn-up TS reading materials by his personal toilet, waiting for the next flushes.
The Dems are not fucked. Rather Elvira's argument is fucked over 300 ways, along with TrumpShit.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2737970]You also do not know that the government has a legal advisory panel so if the issue is getting classified documents from Trump, you should let the panel research this and come up with the best and most legal way it can be done.
[/QUOTE]The FBI's legal search warrant seems adequate for now. Your panties getting all bunched up about it is just a bonus.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2737970]The funny part is that the liberal press is calling for an indictment. They are even saying that the Republicans have been quiet on the issue. I told you much smarter and objective sources who do not even like Trump have asked the question, "Is this it?" after they saw the affidavit.[/QUOTE]Who cares about an op-ed piece by a newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2737970]Unlike you, I know this is not going anywhere.[/QUOTE]Unlike blind, fat Elvis, I know the indictment of TrumpShit is coming soon. Maybe not soon enough for me to win my bet on Predictit that Shit gets indicted by September 1st, but soon in time anyways.
Double Agent TrumpShit will no longer keep selling our secrets to foreigners.
TrumpShit's is a criminal, and he's going to jail.
[QUOTE=Chris P;2738357]Scouring through my old posts now? ... [/QUOTE]What, with all of 30 seconds, to search and read nothing. I can't say I was surprised to find a "big fat nothing", coming from someone who regularly posts [b]"much ado about nothing".[/b]
So it's not hard to see why the Pattaya thread is so "calming" to you, as it isn't cluttered with your standard QAnon rubbish or your typical [U]"Trumperfied shithole"[/U] cites and countries, drivel.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2738295][QUOTE=GDreams;2738205]No it wasn't a coup. Yanukovich illegally ordered the murder of civilian protesters. Fleeing arrest is not a coup. I was an outsider I had no stake in the process. You and a couple of the right wing loons here would be the only people to consider that a coup.[/QUOTE]Wingnuts would probably call what happened in Romania to Ceaucescu a coup as well. The only thing they don't see as a "coup" is what happened in January 6th, 2020. How they believe that a bunch of Democrats dressed up like dumper morons to protest an election that they won is beyond me. But, then again, most of what wingers believe is beyond me.
But there's always this [URL]https://www.thebulwark.com/what-really-happened-in-ukraine-in-2014-and-since-then/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Both spot on.
But, don't you know, Jan 6th's coup, was just a test run and the QAnon Quackery, aims to get it right in 2024, now that they "think", they know what a "real" coup should look like.
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2738379]Wrong wrong wrong Fat Elvis. The FBI pulled over 300 classified documents out of the criminal headquarters at Mar-a-Lago.
Double Agent TrumpShit had Top Secret Files in his desk.[/QUOTE]The most telling thing about the wingnuts is that they never ever ever (and did I mention ever?) even tried to explain why Trump needed all these top-secret documents in the first place.
Forget even the security issues for a moment.
Why?
No seriously, wingnuts -- why?
Why did the man who's been so cozy with Putler that he went to talk to him without an interpreter, who has called him a genius for invading a country and killing tens of thousands civilians -- why did he keep classified documents in his fancy timeshare resort?
What other USA Presidents have done anything like that?
There is only one reasonable explanation: his relationship with Vlad the Impaler ain't over. That would explain why he felt the risk of exposure and even criminal prosecution would be worth keeping his boss happy.