Photo Gallery

[QUOTE=Perkele]Dude!

You should ease on taking girls from VM. Locals do not like that. You may end up in a hospital for a long time..... if you're lucky.

P[/QUOTE]

Perkele,

I am not disagreeing with you - just giving my two cents' worth on this topic.

The only problem I ever heard of (not that I am an expert about VM) with taking a girl from VM relates to a guy who was taking girls from there and not paying the house. I heard they really beat him up. I assume (I know - it's dangerous to assume) that if he had paid the house he would not have had a problem.

[QUOTE=Donnie D]Off Road,
She was very aggressive,
Donnie[/QUOTE]
This is to put it mildly. She stated texting me and calling me, do not let her have your phone number if you do go with her.

3 days after I was with her she sent me a text that she thought she was pregnant and was worried her husband would find out! I am not sure how stupid she thinks I am. I would guess she wanted money or something. This is so ludicrous that it is laughable. 1. Condom, 2. Vasectomy, 3. Three DAYS? 4. Like I was the only person she was with? 5. Husband?
OK enough.. thought I would pass this on.. great sex is not worth this..(well it was at the time but..)..

[QUOTE=Perkele]You should ease on taking girls from VM. Locals do not like that. You may end up in a hospital for a long time..... if you're lucky.[/QUOTE]Please explain the issue here. I am kind of at a loss to understand the problem.

Why would they want to beat him up? For paying too much? For eliminating their chances with her that night?

When would they do it? During the negotiation? Would someone jump in a car and follow the taxi to see where he is staying? Or would they have to hope that he comes back another day so they can beat him up then?

Are you saying that when the girl goes back she would provide details on his hotel or apartment to the local guys so they can rob him later?

I am just hypothesizing here. Quite frankly, all of these ideas seem like a bit of a stretch.

Please educate us all as to what one's concerns should be in this situation.

Thanks much!

DB

[QUOTE=Dollars]I have a few stip bars in northern New Jersey that should wet your appetite until you visit Brazil again. They are full of Brazilian girls and if your portuguese is good they can be had for nothing more than a dinner and a movie.

No kidding![/QUOTE]Would that happen to be one of them (Wednesday nights in particular)? LOL, I've found a few friendly ones there who were more than happy to whisper after hour arrangements in my ear! Let me know if you'd like to go hunting together!

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]Please explain the issue here. I am kind of at a loss to understand the problem.

Why would they want to beat him up? For paying too much? For eliminating their chances with her that night?
[/QUOTE]

Overpaying is normally the reason. The running rate for a girl in VM is 26 reais, 20 to the girl, 5 for the house and 1 for a bag.

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]
When would they do it? During the negotiation? Would someone jump in a car and follow the taxi to see where he is staying? Or would they have to hope that he comes back another day so they can beat him up then?
[/QUOTE]

As I noticed particular member frequented in VM getting the girls, so locals would assume that he'll come back. Thus one of the repeat visits may end quite badly.

[QUOTE=The Watcher]Perkele,

I am not disagreeing with you - just giving my two cents' worth on this topic.

The only problem I ever heard of (not that I am an expert about VM) with taking a girl from VM relates to a guy who was taking girls from there and not paying the house. I heard they really beat him up. I assume (I know - it's dangerous to assume) that if he had paid the house he would not have had a problem.[/QUOTE]

Please do disagree... No worries.

The trouble is that if a gringo keeps going to VM and taking a girl to a TLN session, the house doesn't make any money with that particular girl. If you want to pay to the house too, that could easily reach another R$ 50 or so.

As far as I'm concerned, please do go on your activities in VM, but be adviced what may happen.

Locals don't give a shit if you take a girl to a nearby hotel/motel, as long as the girl goes back to "work" during the same night.

P

[QUOTE=The Watcher]

The only problem I ever heard of (not that I am an expert about VM) with taking a girl from VM relates to a guy who was taking girls from there and not paying the house. I heard they really beat him up. I assume (I know - it's dangerous to assume) that if he had paid the house he would not have had a problem.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to Brasil in over a year, and I'm probably not going back again for a while (for various reasons) but I just wanted to give my opinion on doing TLN with a VM girl.

I'm not an expert about VM either, but you definitely DO have to give the house a cut; although it sounds like Tom is treating VM like it's another MP or Balcony, it isn't like that at all. You can't just walk into VM, ask a girl for TLN and then leave with her like you're in Copa! VM is a completely different environment. The guys that go there are almost all locals, and are there for a quick, cheap screw, not GFE or TLN. Likewise, the girls work for (or "with" depending on how you look at it) the various bars in VM, and they of course get a cut from the girls each time they go with someone.

Tom mentioned he paid R150 for TLN, and another member (Rosine) said that this was way too much, but Tom didn't specifiy if the R150 covered both the girl AND the house fee. What I got from his posting is that he paid R150 for TLN *total* for both the girl and the house fee (maybe it was R100 for the girl and R50 for the house, or something like that). This sounds more or less fair IMHO. But if he did pay R150 just for the girl, and then more to the house, then I agree with Rosine that he overpaid.

As far as being beat up by the locals/bar owners for doing TLN or overpaying, I've never heard of anything like that happening personally, but I wouldn't be suprised in the least if that has happened before. Again, I think the best way to approach VM is to just enjoy it for what it is. I don't think the locals mind too much that gringos come to VM to fuck their women for cheap, but once you start taking them out of VM (especially night after night!) I could understand problems arising from this. Like I said before, VM isn't a pick-up joint; besides, would you really want VM to become another Balcony Bar/Veranda Help??

In my own personal experience, I've only done TLN with a girl from VM once, and I wouldn't make a habit of it. I don't remember what exactly I paid at the time, but I think it was R40-50 or so to the bar just to be able to leave with her, and then R80 for her for TLN. Of course the cab fare back to Leme was another R25 as well, so factor that into the equation and I think I agree with Rosine that you can do just as well for the price in Copa; although perhaps not right now during high season!

Anyways, interesting discussion as always (in the photo gallery of all places!), good pics T&J, and lets keep 'em coming.

Not all VM girls will accept doing a TLN in Copa. Some of them will not even go to the nearby motel. They prefer the safety of the casa.

Most casas in VM will let you bring their girls to the nearby motel, but might not let you take away their girls to Copa. It´s up to the casa and the girl.

I "dated" quite a few VM girls in Copa, but almost all of them came by in the afternoon before going to work at VM, or on their day off. The new girls have been satisfied with R$ 50. The repeat-girls have done it just for free or for some snacks and bus-money. They seem to be just happy with their little "romance" with a gringo.

Personally I don´t go to VM to find a girl to bring back to Copa the same evening. If I take a TLN I don´t like if she had a dozen customer just before me.

Paying R$ 150 for a TLN with a VM girl is way too much.

There is no need to worry about the locals in VM if you bring a girl to Copa or if you overpay the girls. In their eyes it just confirm what they already know, that gringos are suckers easy to be fooled.

I know the guy who was beaten up, over taking VM girls back to his place. Your right, he was treating VM like it was Meia Pataca. He fucked up because he was keeping the girls for up to a week at a time and paying them 200R!! He wasnt paying the house either, which is really strange because he lives in Rio, he should have known better.

After the 8th or 9th time of doing this, they beat the shit out of him when he returned the following week. Good news was, they didnt shoot him, so they must have something against bringing unwanted attention, by killing a gringo.

If you meet a girl in VM that you really want to enjoy at your place. Get her cell number and have her come visit you the next day, 90% of them wil do it.

You have to pay the house R$20 for the girl to leave. Then I usually give them R$120 for TLN.

Here are a couple of VM girls who we caught getting out of a taxi in front of Help. We gave them R$100 each TLN swap and photo op included.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]

That A$$ looks damn nice - not just ramdom I may hace to check out MC.
I have always gone to 4x4. Nice work. DD

Here are some new resizings of Duda's electronic XMAS card

Duda's electronic XMAS card part II:

Duda's electronic XMAS card Part III:

Duda's electronic XMAS card Part III or IV, I forgot.