Great set of reports Rodeo!
I really enjoyed your set of posts, and it was really obvious you had a great time. You have actually encouraged me to want to do Bogota again, as my first experience with Bogota was nothing really special. I never even stepped foot inside a P4P place, but will have to explore that area on my next visit to Bogota.
I feel the same way that Winner expressed to you about the pricing structure. Personally, I refuse under any circumstances to pay over 100,000 pesos's, and that is usually for the entire night, as I am not much of a day monger. I need the day to recuperate from the long hard night I experience before, and that is part of the reason I like to monger in areas that have beach access!. :)
Again thank you for all your time and effort in providing us this great set of field reports!.
Latina Tour 2007 Introduction
One year to prepare this trip. Until now, I have always done my mongering within business trips; very comfortable, no need to build up any explanation, all expenses except girls are paid by the company. On the other hand, it doesn't allow choosing destination. Well, can't complain with all travelling I have done and even being paid for that.
This time I wanted to choose my destination, and I chose to go on pilgrimage to the Mecca of mongerers: Rio. OK, some of you will claim that the world title of sex destination belongs to Thailand. It might be in terms of quantity of visitors, but to my opinion not in terms of quality. We monger because we love women diversity else we could just choose one and stay at home with. In Thailand, there is not exactly something as diversity in women due to the homogeneous ethnical looks. This is the good thing with FKK, only rich countries can attract women from all over the world. It’s not exactly an issue with countries like Brazil or Cuba as they have an incredible ethnic diversity within their population. Brazil has it all, from blondes to black, Indians, Latinas, mulattas, you name it. Brazil has also incredible clubs, similar to German FKK. For years I try to fin out where is the best brothel in the world, and it is most probably between German FKK, Rio's Termas and Sao Paulo top clubs.
The two main problems when building up a major mongering trip is finding the money and a reason to be away from home for so long. For the latest, it was much easy than I imagined, but I prefer not to tell it on the public board. I had tried to find a frequent flyer ticket to Rio, no better way to get a ticket without any expense on your bank account. Unfortunately, even a year before, the only flight I found to South America was Caracas. Of course, who else would want to go to Caracas? I then tried to find on Internet the cheapest way to fly from Caracas to Rio. The only one I found was a flight to Sao Paulo through Bogotá with Avianca.
I know, for most of you, Colombia is a country of violence, kidnapping, narcotraffic and FARC. Not for me. There is something I can't explain between Colombianas and me. And I was ready to go to find it out right on site. While preparing my trip, I found out I was dreaming more about Colombia than about Brazil. Anyway here is the trip, Caracas, Bogotá, Sao Paulo and Rio in two weeks, couldn't be better.
For the money, I had to prepare everything almost a year before. I had opened a secret bank account with a visa card. I had one year to put money on it. Not easy, but I finally found a few stock options I had completely forgotten from my previous job years ago. With the raise of the stock market, I had 10 000$ available. I took only 5000$, leaving the rest for a next mongering trip and may be the stock market will even increase that amount. I took hotel reservations on [url]www.hotel.com[/url], probably the cheapest and easiest way of hotel booking. I had done my homework on ISG and had all the addresses for each city. I tried to learn some Brazilian before leaving as well as some Latin dancing lessons and watched south American channels on TV. I jogged a lot to be as fit as possible as I knew I would ask a lot to my body. Hey, mongering needs a lot of efforts!
I bought a marvellous tool, the latest Glofiish X500, an all in one tool, PDA with Excel, Word Internet Explorer and so on, WIFI connection, cell phone, radio, Mpg reader, photo and video camera and last but not least a build in GPS. All the info I needed for my trip was in that device, a real James Bond tool. I could work for CIA with all the experience I have build up while mongering.
I then tried to find available mapping for South America. Only Route 66 and Destinator had a map for the Rio Sao Paulo region, but nothing for Colombia or Venezuela. At last I found an incredible software on Internet, [url]www.smart2go.com[/url]. They provide for free worldwide mapping running on Windows mobile. Only vocal guiding is provided at a special fee, but I didn't really needed it. I entered all my addresses as POI in my GPS.
Regarding my luggage, I had everything in one bag on the exact dimensions to be allowed in cabin. I had some cash money hidden in the internal zip of my belt in case of, a wallet with photocopy of passport and local money, electronic tickets, and my passport and credit card in safety box of hotel as soon as I arrived. I had scanned my passport and all other info and had put it in my Internet mailbox in case I lost everything.
Of course I was exited to go, but still I was for the first time ever worried to travel. During business trips, I surface from time to time, but this time I'll be Routard for two complete weeks, with no one except you knowing where I really am. Will I be able to surface again? As I felt guilty, I contracted a life insurance before to leave.
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Latina tour 2007 Day 7-13
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[b]the amateur scene[/b]
i stayed one week in bogotá. brazil had left me empty, including my wallet. but that was no big deal. i had an apartment paid for a week, was on walking distance of parque 93 and la t, had enough cash money to pay the drinks and food for the week as colombia is inexpensive. my plan was to explore the amateur scene and leaving the pro scene only in case of emergency if i hadn’t scored with the freebies. i will not describe my experience in the amateur scene, these are private matters and i mean for the girls of course. i will simply give some general ideas about my amateur experience but be as specific as usual for the few pro experience i had.
as soon as i had left my stuff in my apartment, i went to andina, the major mall in la t to get a local phone cell. this is the major tool for the amateur scene. i got the phone and a precharged sim card for only 69 000 cop in the photo shop on the main floor of the mall. while walking through the mall, i was once again impressed by the cutties walking around. it’s simply amazing and i love how they watch me straight into my eyes and smile. it happens all day long here, and it has never ever happened me not even once in my hometown. simply incredible. i have to add at this point that i have never ever tried to date anyone anymore since 20 years and i felt quiet nervous about it. well believe it or not, but just a couple of hours after landing in bogotá, i was already at a pub together with 4 pretty young girls. not one night during that week i was alone, the social time was simply incredible. i could meet as much beautiful girls as i liked, coming from the best backgrounds and in the finest environments. yes, i preferred to keep it with the girls from the better neighbors for a couple of reasons. the first is simply because i had been introduced to this scene at first and it went great, no need to go anywhere else. the second is that the girls look definitely much better in the better neighbors than in the poor barrios. i rate 90% of the girls between 20 and 30 in the rich areas 8 or above, while it drops to 30% in the poorer areas. the girls from the better neighborhood are mainly from european descent and are highly educated, while the girls in the south are more ethnic, tend to be fat, have sometimes dental problems and simply not the money to take care of themselves. i really enjoyed discussing with colombianas from the same cultural level, i met even one working in the same business as i do. there is simply no comparison. at third i was afraid that a relation whatsoever with a poorer girl would bring the money issue back, having to support her, which would make things look close to the pro scene again.
how does it work? the fact is that colombianas simply never refuse an invitation for a drink. i saw even a cute girl with a t-shirt “offer this girl a drink” written in english! things can’t be clearer. why, simply because she is always ready to check the available options. i got this explanation from a colombiana. when i explained that western countries girls could be offended if invited for a drink, she simply couldn’t understand it. i had also trouble explaining what was sexual harassment, an unknown meaning in colombia. don’t be shy offering a drink to any girl you meet even in the street, i have never been refused. but watch out, if it is natural to offer a drink to a girl or even a meal, this does not commit her in anyway, and she is still not in your bed, unlike western countries. the second step is the ritual exchange of phone numbers. that’s why it’s important having a local cell phone. if you have her phone, you are on the right path. if you call back and she accepts a second invitation, then it’s rock and roll.
where do you meet the girls? anywhere i would say. what is important is speaking all day long to any girl you meet, even those who don’t turn you on. it must be a way of living. any colombiana will reply to a smile or to an “hola!”. ask any stupid question or say anything stupid about the weather or whatsoever, it doesn’t matter that much. just one sentence is enough, she usually will continue conversation. after a few sentence, there is nothing wrong to invite her for a drink. still i had a few hunting places. on day time is was mainly the malls. there are plenty of malls. but if atlantis is more for the older, unicenter more for the families, andino in la t is definitely the one for the younger generation. i tried also a few outdoor parks during a sunny day, and it was a good place too for meeting girls. it had been said on the board that during nighttime it became much more difficult to meet girls. well quiet the opposite in my experience. the only problem was that nightlife was only thursday friday and saturday. there are 3 main outgoing areas for the better class, parque 93, usaquen and la t. la t is definitely the best of the three, atmosphere is incredible on friday and saturday. a lot of girls walk on the street, but the best meeting places are the pubs. the most famous one is irish pub, but the bogotá beer company you find in each outdoor area is good too. why are these places so good? simply because here is where the expats go. entonces, here is also were the colombianas go who like to date with gringos. it’s that simple. and i mean dating. don’t try to find hookers here, these girls don’t need your money. you will hear all kind of languages around, and it is easy to discuss with the expats. these guys can be of great help to introduce you to the girls they know. when i am with several girls, it’s not unusual that they ask me to invite other guys on our table in order to have a better ratio. yes, i had plenty of girls to introduce to you guys, but only cuba tourist answered me. i guess he was not disappointed about the girls i have introduced to him. again the colombiana theory of checking the available options, nothing else.
the rest is seduction. and for this you need to speak spanish. if you don’t speak spanish, go and learn it and don’t come back in colombia before. i have met an occasional girl speaking english, french and even german, but don’t count too much on it. also, the average gringo spanish that usually is enough for taxi drivers and putanas is not enough here. you have to seduce her. having said this, colombianas are very open and eager to date a gringo. i have heard several theories, one is that there are 7 girls for one guy in bogotá. i don’t really believe in these stats. another one is that if nearly all colombianas are very good looking, the males are much less attractive. this is not my theory, i don’t feel qualified to judge males, i got this theory from several colombianas. my experience is that colombianas are simply passionate, full of love, eager to please a man and can’t live without loving someone. colombianas from my experience seem also to love what is probably exotic for them, tall and blond, but i can’t say for sure if it’s only the girls i meet or a general opinion. for sure i love colombianas and they seem to love me as much as i do.
what were my stats? well, simply 100% for meeting a girl. i have never been refused by anyone. did i manage to get them all in my bed? of course not. i had only one night a day! no kidding, dating girls is not mongering. i started at first hunting as much as possible, but realized soon i was mixing up the names, the faces and the stories i told them. i felt trapped each time my phone rang while i was with another girl. i soon stopped this, and dated only one girl while i could enjoy the friendship and company of her friends. i felt more comfortable like this. i have to add at this point that i felt guilty enough as i needed to lie about my family. no colombiana will date a married guy, catholic culture is strong. yes i know, it’s much more comfortable being yourself with putanas who don’t give a damn shit hearing you are married. this was for me the main problem with the amateur scene. when i watch the pictures where i see myself together with my novia, i feel guilty towards my family as well as towards her for having lied to both. i have never felt guilt before while mongering.
i would have told more about the amateur scene, as it was 90% of my adventures in colombia, but i can’t, sorry for that. hey, i have never read anyone on this board describing the sex he had last night with his own wife right?
[b]the northern part of bogota [/b]
i had to use the pro scene for a few emergencies. fortunately, there were several good clubs within walking distance of my apartment. they are easy to find, any taxi driver will drive you around. they all go on the same way. it’s a typical nightclub with 10 or 20 girls inside. management tries to make you drink, so don’t lose too much time. you can go with the girl in a room on site or you can go with her outside for an hour or for the night. these clubs are more expensive than those in santa fe. typical prices for the night in the northern areas are 200 000-300 000 cop.
the closest were [b]extasis [/b]calle 86a no 14-57, [b]copacabana [/b]and [b]casanova[/b] calle 86a no 14-55, all three in the same street on calle 86a level cr15. the clubs were not that bad, pretty upscale as they were in the northern are, but i didn’t like the pushy attitude of the waiters who wanted me to make me sit and have a drink before i could have a look around. each club had maybe 20 girls, probably not bad looking, but i was spoiled with the amateur scene and didn’t found any girl here that turned me on. there are rooms on site as well as pick-up, pricing is as far as i know around 150 000 cop for the girl and room or exit fee.
i took a taxi and went to check out the other clubs close to the area. i tried [b]lancaster [/b]calle 90 no14-57, opened till 4h00, same pricing as the three others, club with rooms on site, but again none of the dozen girls turned me on, they looked like…hookers.
i continued with the taxi to the next one [b]bar zhivago[/b] (juan pablo karaoke) carrera 18 no 93a-83. this was the only club in bogotá where i found girls that turned me on. it’s as usual a typical nightclub with 20 girls. there are rooms on site or you can take the girl out, pricing is about the same, 80 000 cop for exit fee and 300 000 cop for the girl for the night. i f you wait till closing time at 2h00, there is no exit fee.
i chose a blonde girl that looked like cameron diaz. her name was adriana, she was a real spinner, a bit like cameron diaz too. she asked for 400 000 cop, but she told me she was real good and promised me to stay till the late morning, and indeed she was worth every cop. she is from manizales and has no family in bogotá, so it’s ok for her to stay longer. boy, she was hot! once in my room, she turned the music on and started one of the greatest strip i have ever had. she has an incredible body. when she was fully naked, she undressed me too and took me to the shower. she washed me complete, then put soap on my hands and used my hands to wash herself, especially her soft pussy. i was so hard with her in the shower, she had fun watching my dick. she wanted me to do a massage before, but i declined as i don’t like having oil on my skin. we kissed passionately and explored our bodies. she loved stimulating her clito with my dick. when it was time for intercourse, she did all the job on top of me. incredible, what a stamina! she just couldn’t have enough from it. i still picture her incredible body moving on top of me. we nearly didn’t sleep, the sex was continuous. she felt asleep in the early morning. i couldn’t fall asleep anymore but watched her sleeping for a couple of hours. when she opened her eyes, she smiled and came with her hot body to mine. i couldn’t hold my erection, and as soon as she noticed it, she started again. simply amazing, as it was already late and she just could have gone home. we showered and took breakfast together. i could at last have a normal discussion with her without sexual interference. she is a real cool girl.
during my visit in the same club, i had noticed also another girl named adriana. she was exactly the opposite, dark haired, petite and shy. as i couldn’t go with both, she had given me her phone number and said i could call anytime, she would come over wherever i was in bogotá. on sunday night it was very slow in the pub, just a few girls that had already their boyfriends. i discussed with a few expats, but felt lonely. i called adriana and asked if she could come and meet me in the pub. she arrived one hour later, dressed as all other girls in the pub. i introduced her to the expats as being my date, and she did everything great, no one could imagine she was a hooker. when i brought her back to the hotel, the security guy didn’t register her, he just couldn’t notice it was a hooker. and when she was in my bed, i just couldn’t notice it too…adriana called me several times after to meet us again. i understood that in fact she had also forgotten she was a hooker. yes, she had been the sweetest girl i have ever met. she had given me her body and soul but i realized it later. i remember now the way she looked at me when we took breakfast together. i remember now i few things she tried to tell me. this is colombia.
there were a couple of other clubs in the area i didn’t check out that are supposed to be good too [b]aroma y tanga[/b], carrera 15 et calle 95 and much northern [b]la mansion [/b]autopista norte 117 and pepe sierra (calle 116). the latest is the most expensive club in bogotá.
during daytime, i went to check out once also the massage parlour of [b]abejitas [/b]right in the zona rosa carrera 14 n°83-23 [url]www.abejitas.com[/url]. pricing is around 150 000p too. there were only three girls on a sunday afternoon, didn’t find anything appealing.
[b]santa fe[/b]
the main monger area in bogotá is santa fe, the zona de toleranza. i had been once during daytime to check it out, but there was already plenty of action. the area is around carrera 15-16 and calle 23-24. most casas are still closed except [b]la piscina del dia [/b]at the back of la piscina itself. i entered and there were a dozen of chicas with a couple of guys, nothing special. in the streets there was a lot of street action, girls waiting in front of small bars. some were not girls by the way, watch out! i didn’t try anything, it was just for the record.
i had a meeting with cuba tourist one night. i had introduced him into the amateur scene. we had great fun, too bad we can’t tell more about it! cuba tourist offered me to show me around all the casas of santa fe. we did all of them, as they are all in the same block. [b]la piscina[/b], [b]el castillo[/b], [b]paisa bar[/b],[b] atunes[/b], [b]las vegas[/b], [b]venus[/b], [b]salon[/b], are the names i remember. some are upscale like la piscina with a swimming pool in the middle, but they all go on the same way. they are all like nightclubs with rooms. you enter and exit easily, have a look and go to the next one. each casa has 20-40 girls, pricing is around 60 000-100 000 cp for short time and 100 000cop-200 000cop for the night. we did them all, but i just couldn’t find any girl that could turn me on, neither cuba tourist by the way. i guess we both had our regular girls in mind and the contrast was too obvious.
in my opinion, the saint maarten scene with colombianas is much better than the scene right in colombia. i feel as if the girls in colombia itself are more hardened hookers. they are in their own country, deal with pimps, need to take care of their kids and are in a less safer environment. the colombianas in the caribbean have been selected on look before signing contracts and prefer to go abroad for privacy as most are not even hookers in colombia. colombianas abroad are mainly new in the business. having said this, my few experiences with pros in colombia have been excellent. but ok, i have never been disappointed by colombianas wherever. i met at last a girl from sxm in one of the brothels. we hugged each other, she explained me she was back from carolina since two weeks. she gave me some news from a few girls i know that are still in saint maarten.
during our visit of santa fe, our taxi stopped near some police officers. we exited the taxi and a policewoman smiled at us (i told you that all the colombianas smile!). we started to discuss with her, and she was pretty cool. she showed us her gun, and gave us a few tips to monger in santa fe. can you believe that? yes, she advised us a few brothels and warned us about others. when we entered one of the bars, she followed us too inside to protect us! this is colombia! i’m pretty sure we could have dated her was she not with her male colleagues. did i mention she was the best looking girl of santa fe?
[b]chicas from saint maarten[/b]
i had plenty of addresses of girls i had known in saint maarten. but as i was focused on the amateur scene, i simply had not the time to call them. but then i received a mail from louisa. she was supposed to be in panama, but told me she came back to bogotá this week. i know louisa nearly since she has started in the business, when she was still a shy little girl (check the sxm thread: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491611&postcount=273[/url]). we have always stayed in touch and she always told me where she was. we have never been novios, it’s simply a friendship. i went to pick her up at the airport, and it was strange for me being the one waiting for her at bogotá’s airport, as it is supposed to be her country, not mine. i was afraid not to be able to recognize her, those girls change each time of look. indeed, i couldn’t see her, had no way to contact her, so had to go back without her. she called me that night on my phone, apologized but was on waiting list and could only catch the next flight. we promised to meet us for lunch next morning. i took a taxi to santa barbara and was surprised how upscale the building was of her apartment. when she appeared, i realized the impact of the business on those girls. she had changed indeed, looked much older, had enhanced breasts, and too much make-up to try to hide the lack of sleep. but she still watched at me with the same eyes. for me she will always be that little girl i have known from the beginning. we went out for a walk. we walked hand in hand and both happy to be together again. i joked with her: “bueno, entonces tienes plata!”. we went to the nearby bogotá bear company of usaquen. she had plenty of things to tell me, and i had also plenty of things to tell her. i am more or less her confident and she is mine, to try to understand each of us the other side, customer and hooker. we have had each our love story we tried to understand. she explained me also the bogotá scene, but realized i knew already most of it. she told me a lot also about the colombianas going abroad. i asked her if she could introduce me to noralba, that famous woman in bogotá that sends all the girls to the different brothels in the caribbean. she told me a lot about noralba, but dared not to call her, as she didn’t want to get in trouble with her. we agreed to meet us tonight, but i was wondering how i would manage this with my regular friends in the pub. mixing pro and amateur scene is dangerous business.
that evening, i received a call from a girl i tried to date for several days. she asked me to meet at the pub. i feared all night long a call from louisa. just when i started to kiss from the first time my date, the phone rang. it was not louisa, but adriana. shit, i had forgotten her too. my date didn’t want to come at he hotel for the first night, i finished alone in my hotel room. but not very long, the next call was louisa. she asked where i was, i answered at my hotel. she said she would be there within 10 minutes, i had not even the time to explain that i was in a romantic mood and not in a mongering mood after that first kiss from my date. i went downstairs to wait for louisa. a taxi stopped at my hotel, but i believed at first that it was not louisa as i saw two people in the back of the taxi. it was indeed her, she was with another girl. the two sexy girls kissed me each of my mouth. louisa introduced me to her novia, nathalia. yes, i remember nathalia, she was in sxm too with her last year at carolinas. the security guy of the hotel had fun, this time he had no doubt about the little spinners and asked them to register. we entered my room and the girls asked for drinks, but i had nothing to offer. no problem, there are other ways of having fun.
the two girls undressed, and went to the shower. i had lost control over everything. they came back and both undressed me. have you ever been rapped by two lesbian girls? this is colombia. the two girls kissed each other, they were indeed novias. they then started both to warm me up as they needed a dick for the party. nathalia did most of the work on me, louisa was busy with nathalia. from what i understood, louisa was the male in the couple. when i was ready, nathalia watched at louisa and told her” he’s all yours now”. louisa was already horny enough from nathalia, and she came straight on me on cowgirl. i had trouble recognizing louisa, she had never been so nasty with me, but i guess it was because she was with nathalia. i fucked louisa in different positions while nathalia was helping her till she came. nathalia then asked for her piece of dick. i fucked nathalia hard while louisa went to shower. i had no trouble performing, i wasn’t ready to come myself and could hold for hours, the scene was too weird being used by two lesbians hookers. when both were finished, i had still not had my orgasm, but both didn’t care.
they dressed themselves up and ordered me to come “para rumbiar.” they called a taxi driver they know and off we went, with loud techno music. they stopped at calle 86 and the taxi driver went to buy them what they need, marijuana for nathalia, cocaine for louisa. the taxi drove through the dark streets of bogotá at high speed while both were taking their dope on techno rhythm. it was like in the movie “rosario tijeras”. we stopped in front of la sala, the major techno nightclub of bogotá. louisa ordered me to pay the taxi and the entrance of the nightclub. once inside, i had trouble imagining we were in bogotá. in the middle of the laser show and the techno sound, hundreds of westernized doped teenagers were moving on the rhythm of the music. people were queuing at the toilet to take their extasy. nathalia disappeared and i stayed alone with louisa. louisa became again herself, asked me to return to my hotel. we entered in bed, and i had again my little louisa back as usual. she was exhausted, clamped on me for a little tenderness and i felt sorry for her. she felt soon asleep, feeling secured in my arms. i realized she was destroying herself, but can’t do very much against it. i wondered how i would find her back next time.
[b]conclusion[/b]
my report doesn’t reflect the experience i had in colombia, as the pro scene was just a parenthesis of my stay. i have lived for a week in a female world deep inside bogotá. i have never been in company with so many beautiful girls in my life as during that week. the fact is that i felt deeply in love of one of them and that colombia will forever be in my heart. i’ll never forget my very last night in bogotá. leaving colombia was heartbreaking, i silently cried in the waiting room of the airport. i’m not sure i’m still a mongerer. i didn’t know exactly what i came to look in colombia, but i discovered a part of myself.
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