Prague

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2442715]

My opinion. If I had to take a guess as to what the future might hold. I would say, based on what we just saw in England with "Brexit", there might be some new laws passed that will prevent more immigrants from working in non native countries. So the number of Romanians in Germany might drop significantly, BUT we might end up seeing more Germans come back to the FKK seen. I don't see this happening right away, but maybe in the next 5-7 years.

Then we might see more relaxed laws regarding prostitution in other less developed countries in Europe that were hit hard by the corona virus, like Romania, Bulgaria, maybe Czech, etc, and potentially see a new seen there for punting.

What do you think?[/QUOTE]The more I think about it BackpackBrian, the more I believe the game is over as we know it. Here are my reasons. People are scared. The Czech government has not set a clear date to reopen the borders. Clubs were already struggling before Covid-19. No new club will open up and the big clubs are likely to suffer a huge financial hit. Show Park in Prague which was slated to close, won't reopen. If your predictions come true, then the number of providers from foreign countries will drop. That will mean that many Romanian girls will go home. That signals bad news for the FKKs. Yes, that void will be filled by German girls, but they may not be the top tier models and they definitely won't be satisfied with the current rates. Game over! If the Romanian girls stay in Romania and Czech girls stay in Prague, they will operate as independents. You may see more Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby arrangements, but that is the great unknown. There will be more competition for our dollars, and there should be a downward pressure to the prices. You will have to dig even deeper to find a gem and may encounter more scams and bait and switch, in my opinion. Prague may no longer be a top destination. Its reputation is already taken a hit. Now without order, this could be the wild west. I don't think that tourists will flock back immediately. Also, I don't believe their government wants us to visit either. Game over! Personally, I am going to make other plans now. I may need to look at Asia, since I believe this will be the first area to reopen. It is in their interest to return to normal as quickly as possible. They may have the most relaxed laws. I do hope I am wrong, but I am preparing for the worst. My future plans are aready shot, so it was good that I managed to sneak in one last visit. I don't think I will be back anytime soon. Good luck in your travels BPB!

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2442816]I used to go there a lot from 2005 to 2008. They used to have a large selection of girls from all over Eastern Europe. At some point they remodelled, really ruining the layout of the club, whose brilliant idea that was, I have no idea. In 2009 I discovered my first FKK, Goldentime Vienna, and the rest is history, I learned that Czech clubs (I am not talking about privates, FiddyCent) are bad value for money. The service is inferior and the cost frequently higher.

Sweet Paradise in 2005 and 6, was an okay deal with the prices back then and the GBP / CZK exchange rate, no longer to say the least. From what I have heard Atlas Cabaret had a lot of legal problems, I was in Prague in November and December and its previous location is occupied by Sexy Sauna Club, a poor Czech attempt at an FKK, which is very poor value for money.

It looks like the location of this place has moved, no longer the same old location. The local police chief who I think resided near the previous location had a vendetta against this club and I wonder if they are still subject to greater scrutiny than before. I am not sure this club would be anything like its former self in the heydays.[/QUOTE]Those were some good ol' days Delta Indigo (2005-2008). There were many beautiful Central and Eastern European girls all over town. I must have tried out every strip club and brothel. You could walk into Sweet Paradise and find many cute university girls there. I was never a big fan of Darling Cabaret, because there were so many available options. K5 Relax, Neon Club, and Show Park just to name a few. Soon after this, I discovered the privats. With so many good privats, there was no need for me to pay the house and club operators just to get a girl. Prices were so much lower and more of the money went directly to the girls. You also received way better service. You would not need to ask which girls offered anal sex or was willing to give BBBJ to CIM and swallow. Girls wanted to do these services, since the more options you wanted, the more money went directly into their pockets. Clubs were never a good value. They were just the easy path for tourists. You do know that I have made it my mission to tell guys about privats. Sadly, not many guys were willing to do the research it takes to find the good ones. Most guys just did not have the time or the knowhow. Sexy Sauna Club was located directly across the street from the Police station. Now I don't know where they have moved to, but you are not missing anything. It was a poor attempt at copying the German FKK model, and it was a failure in my opinion. I still need to visit Goldentime Vienna, but I may not return to Europe anytime soon. The borders may remain closed for a long time. As I mentioned, I may need to look at the Asian countries for action. This is where the borders will likely open up first. Europe will have to wait. Best of luck to you!

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2442823]When I went to Prague, the premiere club at the time was K5 Relax. Then one day it was closed. What happened? I mean, what caused its demise? I remember I went with a Russian girl there (she was a decent performer and said I had a big dick ha). I also attended Sexy Sauna Club, and agree it totally sucks. I ended up not sessioning with anybody there. There was some other club in town not too far from the main square. Wish I could remember the name of it. I remember I went with two girls there. One was a blonde Russian girl who I butt fucked. I recall she kept telling me to fuck her Russian ass LOL! Also went with another girl (don't remember where she was from) who was a loud, screamer (not fake either).

I found Prague to be an outstanding tourist town, but the mongering scene was not up to my standards (went to all the top places at the time plus did a private and a call girl in my hotel room). Agree with you that overall, you would pay too much for too little in return. Maybe if you could build up a solid stable of private girls like Fiddy, that would be one thing. But, no chance of me doing that. Been to Austria too, and even there is not up to my expectations LOL! Found no place better than Brazil or Germany. Switzerland is on par for quality service, but too expensive for my wallet. If there was no Brazil or Germany, I guess I would go to Switzerland, and just fuck less. Haha![/QUOTE]The unofficial / official word was that the lease expired at the old K5 Relax location. The owners mentioned in a blurb on their website that they were looking for a new location to reopen. Now, I don't think this will happen anytime soon. As Delta Indigo mentioned, clubs were never a good value in Prague, but it was a convenient setup for first time tourists. That is why you believe that the city was not setup for mongering, compared to your experiences in Brazil and at the German FKKs. Based on that criteria, I will agree with you. I remember when you visited, the clubs were centrally located and the good privates were a bit of trek outside of town. Taxis were still scamming tourists and made the experience not user friendly. Soon after, more user friendly privats opened up and websites displayed photos, prices, and map locations. There were also more user reviews posted to Masher and Holkynajisto. Those were the best days in Prague. There were also many independent escorts and pornstar escorts with legitimate booking agents. The world was your oyster. Now, the decline is evident. Clubs and privats are closing. Show Park is all but finished and everybody is scared to work now. Many girls are advertising on the escort pages, but not many of them are the girls on the photos. You could still dig very hard and find a few gems in the privats, however you will need to spend a lot of time digging through profiles. It is like panning for gold, I must admit. Contrary to popular belief, I do not have a stable of girls here. I rely on Svetaci and Tapky to provide the updated information on the good privat girls. There are many providers like the ones you remember that are still out there. I have even stumbled upon a contact number for the Russian providers. Prices now are comparable to German FKKs, but it is buyer beware. PM me if you want that number. No guarantees that you will get a girl to scream for you to fuck her Russian ass, but from the photos that were sent to me, I could definitely invite a few over to my hotel room. I do believe that 2020 is a complete writeoff. Wishful thinking will lead me to believe that this will all be over by late June or July, but in reality I think the Czech Republic will be closed for a very long time. I am thinking that Asia will reopen first. If I want to get some action, I am looking at that neck of the woods. Good luck to you TC. I really find it hard to believe that you will want to fuck LESS in Switzerland. Why not just go back to Brazil?

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2442959]Good luck to you TC. I really find it hard to believe that you will want to fuck LESS in Switzerland. Why not just go back to Brazil?

FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]You didn't get what I wrote. I said that if there was no Germany or Brazil, then I guess I would go to Switzerland. Because that's the only other place I've been to that can compete with those two destinations in terms of being set up how I like, and with the service level that I like. But, because Switzerland is so expensive (for everything too), I would have to fuck less LOL! If there was no Germany or Brazil that is. Thank God there is a Germany and Brazil where I can fuck more! Hahaha!

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2442946]The more I think about it BackpackBrian, the more I believe the game is over as we know it. Here are my reasons. People are scared. The Czech government has not set a clear date to reopen the borders. Clubs were already struggling before Covid-19. No new club will open up and the big clubs are likely to suffer a huge financial hit. Show Park in Prague which was slated to close, won't reopen. If your predictions come true, then the number of providers from foreign countries will drop. That will mean that many Romanian girls will go home. That signals bad news for the FKKs. Yes, that void will be filled by German girls, but they may not be the top tier models and they definitely won't be satisfied with the current rates. Game over! If the Romanian girls stay in Romania and Czech girls stay in Prague, they will operate as independents. You may see more Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby arrangements, but that is the great unknown. There will be more competition for our dollars, and there should be a downward pressure to the prices. You will have to dig even deeper to find a gem and may encounter more scams and bait and switch, in my opinion. Prague may no longer be a top destination. Its reputation is already taken a hit. Now without order, this could be the wild west. I don't think that tourists will flock back immediately. Also, I don't believe their government wants us to visit either. Game over! Personally, I am going to make other plans now. I may need to look at Asia, since I believe this will be the first area to reopen. It is in their interest to return to normal as quickly as possible..[/QUOTE]Hi Fiddy,

Another interesting take. I hope for the best but expect the worst, so it's a wash.

BUT, looking at history (just recently found interest in previous world recessions) I've discovered that governments tend to either relax a little and look the other way when they need to revive their economy.

Coincidentally, a perfect example is Wuhan China! After Mao created 10 x millions of starving people from his extreme Utopian policies in the 60-70's, the Chinese gov't gave way and relaxed their laws on selling non live stock animals in the markets ("wet markets" in hopes it would lift up poor farmers and provide them with additional / any income they wouldn't otherwise have.

I'm only 40, but I've seen and read about street workers in Russia during the Soviet times and how they were a plenty, when no one had any money.

When people are starving and need to survive they will do anything for very little and in many cases the gov't will back them in understanding that it helps everyone.

Maybe, just maybe we'll see new FKK's and ones in countries that don't have them yet!

Wishful thinking. For an optimist.

Hey LshRoomer!

Looks like I won't be seeing Gia in Prague anytime soon due to this shitstorm happening. I am stuck in Miami and things are just getting started over here.

Who is your favorite girl in Prague? Care to share?

I see that Gia dropped her rates while she is in Prague. I believe her rate is lower in Prague then when she travels abroad. You should check her out, she is my top 3 girl of 15 years of mongering, so that's saying something.

Hope this shit is over soon and I get to be back in Prague again!

Stay safe!

[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2439149]Hey Bastard,

I'm in the same boat as you. I had one of my favs hit me up in early Feb asking when I was planning to be Prague again? COVID19 completely wrecked my plans! Now it's just a waiting game until everything subsides. I think summer is a bit optimistic, especially with the numbers still rising. Even if things calm down globally, I'm not sure how many people will be jumping to travel abroad (myself included).

Gia ( praguebrunette.com )looks amazing from her pics, but her rates are waaaaaay too high for me, and that's coming from a guy that's able to afford it. When you have your next session, don't hesitate to share the experience. I'm sure there are mongers here that would appreciate a report that gives her the thumbs up / down.

Happy hunting mongers and stay safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Maxime;2442422]Agreed that the new (condom) law worsened the upsell effect, that already became more dominant in the big (tourist) clubs, since the last 4 to 5 years. Of course foreigners are also a part of the success of many FKKs (I am also not from Germany), and it is not about lot of individuals. But big groups spending way too much money in GoldenTime, Sharks, Oase, etc for mediocre service, did the average service level decline rapidly in these clubs (for the standard rates, of course when people are so stupid to consistently pay double or triple this, then the girls adapt to it. Only several (smaller) clubs did a good job in maintaining the "standard" service levels in Germany (SC Venus, Bernds, Babylon, Atlanta, etc). Happily the larger Globe in Zurich also did a good job on "service management". Like the good Privates in Prague offer still very good service, but the tourist areas (like ShowPark) are getting worse and worse.

Let's hope we can do more research on this in the coming months. The most important is we will be able to monger in any form soon! .[/QUOTE]I know I am writing in the wrong thread, but I am replying to a post in this thread so please excuse me for this. I guess the Venus club you are referring to is in Hamminkeln, but which club Atlanta are you referring to, I could not find it anywhere?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2442970]You didn't get what I wrote. I said that if there was no Germany or Brazil, then I guess I would go to Switzerland. Because that's the only other place I've been to that can compete with those two destinations in terms of being set up how I like, and with the service level that I like. But, because Switzerland is so expensive (for everything too), I would have to fuck less LOL! If there was no Germany or Brazil that is. Thank God there is a Germany and Brazil where I can fuck more! Hahaha![/QUOTE]Hey TC.

I never ever believed you would choose Switzerland and fuck LESS over Germany or Brazil. I only suggested Brazil again for you because I believe they will reopen before Germany, Switzerland, and the rest of Europe. The Czech Republic has stated they won't reopen their borders anytime soon, even if there is no longer a threat of Covid 19. Their government wants to make absolutely sure they are not put at risk. I would argue that the service level of Czech girls exceed those of the providers in German FKKs by a wide margin. It is the only other common destination we could use for comparison as I have not been to either Brazil or Switzerland. I would argue that if you could find the right privat girls, you will realize that the girls are not clock watchers, not upsellers, are willing to provide anal sex, CIM, and SWALLOW. You would like their prices much more and be able to fuck MORE. Not just quantity of girls, but duration with the girl. The only difference is the club vibe is lacking. I find the girls to be real, and sometimes a bit inexperienced. They are not there to fake an orgasm or to shout out "Fuck my Russian ass", but I bet you can make girls scream uncontrollably in orgasm. I have made some girls squirt, kick out and curl up, secrete their thick girl cum, and swallow my load past the allotted time. My all-time fave slapped her thighs so hard over my ears when she came, that I think I have suffered some permanent hearling loss. This type of experience is only a fantasy in a FKK during a 30 minute or 1 hour session. Fake screaming is such a turnoff for me. I suppose this is better than hearing "FINISHED YET?" or "Why you not cum? Sadly though, I believe it is over for me in Prague for the near future anyways. I could wait it out, but more than likely I will have to find a new destination to pursue my hobby. My prediction is Asia will open up first and followed closely by destinations in South America. I am hoping for the best, but am prepared for the worst. Fortunately for me, I did get my fun in before this whole Covid 19 pandemic took over the world. I wish you the best.

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2443025]Hi Fiddy,

Another interesting take. I hope for the best but expect the worst, so it's a wash.

BUT, looking at history (just recently found interest in previous world recessions) I've discovered that governments tend to either relax a little and look the other way when they need to revive their economy.

Coincidentally, a perfect example is Wuhan China! After Mao created 10 x millions of starving people from his extreme Utopian policies in the 60-70's, the Chinese gov't gave way and relaxed their laws on selling non live stock animals in the markets ("wet markets" in hopes it would lift up poor farmers and provide them with additional / any income they wouldn't otherwise have.

I'm only 40, but I've seen and read about street workers in Russia during the Soviet times and how they were a plenty, when no one had any money.

When people are starving and need to survive they will do anything for very little and in many cases the gov't will back them in understanding that it helps everyone.

Maybe, just maybe we'll see new FKK's and ones in countries that don't have them yet!

Wishful thinking. For an optimist.[/QUOTE]I do hope you are right BackpakcBrian! I did mention there was opportunity in tough economic times, but I think the wait will be too long. The Czech government appears to be the most cautious in their approach. I predict they will be one of the last countries to reopen their borders for travel. They are not even letting their own citizens out of the country. For this reason alone, I am looking at other destinations for my next trip. My guess is that Asia will open up first, but that really depends on the measures they are taking right now. I have also been keeping an eye on South America. The Cane did rave about Brazil on more than one post. There is also potential in Colombia, and perhaps Costa Rica in Central America. Opening of FKKs in other countries may be wishful thinking indeed. You do need very relaxed prostitution laws. Maybe, if history repeats itself, Russia will be the one of those countries that opens up to encourage foreign travel. Only time will tell, but I am still banking on Asia being the first. I really doubt that you will find the FKK model operating in emerging markets, but I do like your optimism. Good luck!

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2442946]The more I think about it BackpackBrian, the more I believe the game is over as we know it. Here are my reasons. People are scared. The Czech government has not set a clear date to reopen the borders. Clubs were already struggling before Covid-19. No new club will open up and the big clubs are likely to suffer a huge financial hit. Show Park in Prague which was slated to close, won't reopen. If your predictions come true, then the number of providers from foreign countries will drop. That will mean that many Romanian girls will go home. That signals bad news for the FKKs. Yes, that void will be filled by German girls, but they may not be the top tier models and they definitely won't be satisfied with the current rates. Game over! If the Romanian girls stay in Romania and Czech girls stay in Prague, they will operate as independents. You may see more Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby arrangements, but that is the great unknown. There will be more competition for our dollars, and there should be a downward pressure to the prices. You will have to dig even deeper to find a gem and may encounter more scams and bait and switch, in my opinion. Prague may no longer be a top destination. Its reputation is already taken a hit. Now without order, this could be the wild west. I don't think that tourists will flock back immediately. Also, I don't believe their government wants us to visit either. Game over! Personally, I am going to make other plans now. I may need to look at Asia, since I believe this will be the first area to reopen. It is in their interest to return to normal as quickly as possible. They may have the most relaxed laws. I do hope I am wrong, but I am preparing for the worst. My future plans are aready shot, so it was good that I managed to sneak in one last visit. I don't think I will be back anytime soon. Good luck in your travels BPB!

FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Czechia has been relatively lightly affected by Covid 19 and I think it is on the list of countries that is opening earlier than others, according to CNN. Seeing your numerous reports here I thought you might have lived in Prague, but I now know that you don't.

I do think that when things open lower prices will prevail. Witness the post by Melissa pleading for foreign customers to pay more despite the anticipated market conditions. The rates will go down for one reason that you have outlined before, the local customer base's income has been badly hit. Both buyers and sellers are badly hit, the aforementioned post from a former supplier is just silly, it is appealing for buyers to pay more than the new market rates.

I certainly wish that people would pay me what I thought I needed and not what the market dictates. I would not give up on Prague if I were you. The club scene in Prague was never fantastic, it was better in the past, but never great, so no big loss on that front.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2443281]Hey TC. I would argue that if you could find the right privat girls, you will realize that the girls are not clock watchers, not upsellers, are willing to provide anal sex, CIM, and SWALLOW. You would like their prices much more and be able to fuck MORE. Not just quantity of girls, but duration with the girl. The only difference is the club vibe is lacking. I find the girls to be real, and sometimes a bit inexperienced.[/QUOTE]I did visit one privat while in Prague. The girl, although not a "stunner", was cute enough to give me a boner. The sex was decent too. Not rushed and no clock watching. Kissing (initiated by her), missionary anal butt fuck, etc. I was satisfied, including with the pricing. But like you say, that club vibe was missing, and I like that. I need that!

I like places where I as your typical "tourist monger" can roll into town and hit a ready-made "platform" offering me lots of pretty girls to choose from who do naughty things in the room. And all at prices that I can afford. I haven't found any countries that deliver that better according to my tastes than Brazil and Germany, in that order. I like Spain too, but that's not a sauna club culture (my first preference), and I think the prices have gotten a wee too high at the top clubs without consistent quality service levels that can be counted upon. No plans for Spain as of now.

I like the sauna / nightclub type of scenes. I found that Prague was a city that sucks when it comes to these two types of mongering establishments. If you're into the privats yeah, I agree that in Prague you would on average get the best service at better prices. But, I'm not into that type of scene for two reasons. For one, like I said, I need that "club vibe". And number two, as a tourist monger with limited time, I need to make every day of my trip count. Get the most out of it. For me, that means not having to spend all of this time "digging" and running around all over the place paying crooked cabbies (Prague was bad about this) trying to find a good privat girl. If I lived in a Prague, OK. But I don't. So give me some floating, ready-made "platforms" where I can "land my jet" and do my thing with efficiency and consistency!

Good luck to you too Fiddy Cent. Good luck to all men trying to put their mongering schedules back together again. Let's get back out there when it's time, and let's it on!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2443399]Let's get back out there when it's time, and let's it on![/QUOTE]Let's get it on! We do how we do my fellows!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2443399]I did visit one privat while in Prague. The girl, although not a "stunner", was cute enough to give me a boner. The sex was decent too. Not rushed and no clock watching. Kissing (initiated by her), missionary anal butt fuck, etc. I was satisfied, including with the pricing. But like you say, that club vibe was missing, and I like that. I need that!

I like places where I as your typical "tourist monger" can roll into town and hit a ready-made "platform" offering me lots of pretty girls to choose from who do naughty things in the room. And all at prices that I can afford. I haven't found any countries that deliver that better according to my tastes than Brazil and Germany, in that order. I like Spain too, but that's not a sauna club culture (my first preference), and I think the prices have gotten a wee too high at the top clubs without consistent quality service levels that can be counted upon. No plans for Spain as of now.

I like the sauna / nightclub type of scenes. I found that Prague was a city that sucks when it comes to these two types of mongering establishments. If you're into the privats yeah, I agree that in Prague you would on average get the best service at better prices. But, I'm not into that type of scene for two reasons. For one, like I said, I need that "club vibe". And number two, as a tourist monger with limited time, I need to make every day of my trip count. Get the most out of it. For me, that means not having to spend all of this time "digging" and running around all over the place paying crooked cabbies (Prague was bad about this) trying to find a good privat girl. If I lived in a Prague, OK. But I don't. So give me some floating, ready-made "platforms" where I can "land my jet" and do my thing with efficiency and consistency!

Good luck to you too Fiddy Cent. Good luck to all men trying to put their mongering schedules back together again. Let's get back out there when it's time, and let's it on![/QUOTE]I think Fiddy Cent has a point though. The club scene is always very convenient and it leads to laziness and opportunities for price gouging for poor services. I used to live in London and then there were no clubs but a few pseudo privates or places you could walk into with a single girl. When I knew no better than this was okay, not unbearable.

I used to take the train to Brussels and go to RLD there, which I found far preferable to the setup in London and more cost effective, service was not stellar but adequate, and considering the hotness of the girls, it was a bargain compared to London, an enormous one.

Having this P4 P experience, I used to love the club scene in the Czechia compared to all of that I had experienced previously. It used to be better and cheaper in the past, the service was never that great, CBJ only and many girls did not kiss but I was okay with that at the time.

Then I discovered the FKK scene, with GT in Vienna and I couldn't bear the club scene in Czechia anymore. My local Czech friends also noticed my lack of interest and asked me about it, I told him in the Germanic region it is far better and actually cheaper. I used to be really into it and all of a sudden couldn't stand it, at one point I had seriously considering moving to Prague before I experienced FKK land, that is how much I used to like it.

It is what we are used to, we are comfortable with certain settings. I do love the club vibe too, particularly I like seeing girls fully nude, and in the respect even Spain falls short, I love sitting in the club and having a drink between sessions and so on and admiring girls all around me.

However Fiddy Cent has a serious point here, if you are able to let go of what you are comfortable with then there are many hidden gems in Prague, to be had for a reasonable price.

Even the clubs vary a lot, a club that is not so glamorous that I discovered belatedly is Neon Club, however the girls go much further than the clubs I used to know over a decade ago in Prague. OWO is rare in Prague clubs, however in Neon club, quite a few girls do it and I have been rimmed by quite a few girls.

Right now, knowing what I know, I would say the Vienna sex scene is a lot richer than Pragues, but if I had Fiddy Cent's experiences, then I might rank the two far more closely together. Just a thought.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2443477]However Fiddy Cent has a serious point here, if you are able to let go of what you are comfortable with then there are many hidden gems in Prague, to be had for a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]But it's not just a matter of "comfort level" for me. It's what I like. No, it's what I "need"! As I've said before, I doubt that I ever would have become a hardcore, no turning back monger had I not found the Brazilian termas or the German FKKs. I wasn't prior to discovering those game-changing "platforms". I'm most certainly open to trying new things. Why I went to a Czech privat in the first place. But, I know that meeting girls in private apartments will never give me the same kind of satisfaction and fulfillment that the terma or the FKK does. I know me best and what I need. The privat scene simply cannot deliver to me what I got to have. For those for whom it does, great for them! Tally ho!

Hi guys,

I'm new here and want to visit Prague after the pandemic. So what is GRIS that you all refer to?