East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1853133]I would not have too many worries about the sauna clubs. Not many of them refuse black customers. I have been on nightlife tour with some black guys several times already and not any time we had a problem to enter the sauna clubs. But for sure we visit the clubs already used to foreign customers. I would not show up in a sauna that is not used to foreigners without Chinese skills, otherwise should not be a big deal. But don't forget to bring your own condom, if there is anything true about the rumors. Chinese saunas sometimes provide really small covers. I had the case already where a German guy (who was not oversize) on a tour came from the session and did not have sex, because the girl failed to put the condom on. Which was no issue for another black guy of the team, who was totally surprised that not everyone bring his own condom. From that day on I also prepare that for the tour clients. Good tip from my point of view.

And I just checked my database. From more than 50 independent girls who filled out our survey including which kind of customers they not serve, we have only 9 who selected "black" (they also can refuse Indians, which is selected significant more often), so even there would be 20 or 30% of girls who would have a problem. Because of any reason, that means also that there are always 70 to 80% of the girls who will have totally no problem with you and your friend. And many of the girls who filled the form are former sauna girls, so it's nearly sure that the sauna not built up an restriction like that.

Over all, no need to worry from my point of view, and if you get some problems, feel free to contact me and we can make sure that you will show up in places where you guys will be welcome![/QUOTE]Excellent. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1852904]Definitely walkable, a little over 1 km.[/QUOTE]Definitely walkable as Arizona says. Typically will take a cab back home if I am with a girl though. Tough walk in the high heels. Make sure you negotiate the trip. The cabs outside Judy's & Manhattan will not turn on the meter. And will try to rip you off. No more than 20 RMB. I have had some try to charge 100 RMB.

Will

[QUOTE=BigTimeFun;1853699]Thanks so much. We will have such a short time there we definitely are trying to focus on likely hits. We won't have time to waste. Where is Bodi? Do you have an address?[/QUOTE][URL]http://bodiboutiquehotelshanghai.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1853553]I do not know if that is that much of a negative. There are CCTV galore everywhere inside the hotel, so LE or any person who wanted to know, will see you having girls coming to your room anyway. To have the hotel at least get some information on the girl you hardly know, but allowed into your private confine alone, may actually have some safety benefits. (provided the ID is not fake and the hotel staff can recognize fake IDs when they see them).[/QUOTE]Ever since the Hilton installed Key cards in the elevator a couple years ago, they no longer have a guard there that makes sure your guests are registered. I guess that gets them off the hook.

I had a Chinese massage girl girlfriend for a year and she would visit me on every trip to China. The Hilton was strict about registering at that time. After we registered her as my guess a couple times, she could sign her self in without me. (I stayed there often and am still a known customer by many of the hotel employees).

This was handy when she came over when she got out of work at 2 am. She could then come in the room and wake me up other ways (haha). I eventually gave her her own key but that was after quite a while.

Sam Can.

[QUOTE=Carage;1853869][URL]http://bodiboutiquehotelshanghai.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]I stayed at the Bodi several years ago. It's a very nice hotel. Short walk to Xintiandi as well, so you can start your night with some food or drinking there and maybe get lucky at Paulaner.

[QUOTE=Tazman099;1853558]Pay for a vip membership to SNG (Steven just posted) and you'll get all the addresses you need. Taxis will not be able to get you there by name.

FYI: 45 mansion is currently closed, and my personal opinion of red house is a sh $t hole.

Taz.[/QUOTE]Oh, really!

Which saunas do you recommend?

It is safe to visit these saunas. Right? If you're saying taxis also wouldn't know.

I really can't afford to get into any trouble.

Any of my friends out there got any good girls in Hong Kong. PM me. Marty.

Bodi is in Pudong, and Xintiandi is in PuXi, separated by the river.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1853996]I stayed at the Bodi several years ago. It's a very nice hotel. Short walk to Xintiandi as well, so you can start your night with some food or drinking there and maybe get lucky at Paulaner.[/QUOTE]It may take hours to walk to Xintiandi.

Jb.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1854035]Any of my friends out there got any good girls in Hong Kong. PM me. Marty.[/QUOTE]In Hong Kong island Wan chai area has lots of pick up bars.

In kowloon. Check the hk page. There is a building full of girls to pick from. Use the p4 p site.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1853953]Ever since the Hilton installed Key cards in the elevator a couple years ago, they no longer have a guard there that makes sure your guests are registered. I guess that gets them off the hook.

I had a Chinese massage girl girlfriend for a year and she would visit me on every trip to China. The Hilton was strict about registering at that time. After we registered her as my guess a couple times, she could sign her self in without me. (I stayed there often and am still a known customer by many of the hotel employees).

This was handy when she came over when she got out of work at 2 am. She could then come in the room and wake me up other ways (haha). I eventually gave her her own key but that was after quite a while.

Sam Can.[/QUOTE]I just curious, how much you pay her? Thanks. I have many such girl friends, just want to compare the notes, and experience.

[QUOTE=AllForBb;1854166]I just curious, how much you pay her? Thanks. I have many such girl friends, just want to compare the notes, and experience.[/QUOTE]Too much.

She was a "freebie" the most expensive girl I ever had.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1854220]Too much.

She was a "freebie" the most expensive girl I ever had.[/QUOTE]Gents, listen to the voice of much experience. Sam is the Man! The girl will always up the ante, next time wanting more.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1853996]I stayed at the Bodi several years ago. It's a very nice hotel. Short walk to Xintiandi as well, so you can start your night with some food or drinking there and maybe get lucky at Paulaner.[/QUOTE]I am not sure which Xintiandi you are talking about.

Bodi is in Pudong near the JinXiu Rd station.

And the last time I checked Xintiandi is across the river in Puxi near the Huangpi South Rd Station.

There is no way you could walk there.

[QUOTE=DexXie;1852369]Regarding VPN's: Pretty much every $100 home router built in the last 3 years has VPN capabilities (using OpenVPN). If you know what you're doing, it takes about 10 min to setup. I think it's much safer than a paid service because, what's CGov going to do? Block out American ISP's and essentially crippling their own Internet in the process? {S N I P}[/QUOTE]Hmmm! "It takes about 10 minutes to set up". To connect to what? Your Playstation, or indirectly to a porn site on the other side of the Great Firewall of China?

I am sorry, but your information is totally incorrect. I respectfully suggest that you look up VPN on Wikipedia.

China has at critical times (terrorism alerts, CCP conferences, assassination attempts on Xi Jinping etc) blocked the IP addresses of servers of some of the commercial VPN providers, but those companies were able to quickly switch to other servers. Business, of course, use their own dedicated VPN service in their networks.

BTW, China is able to break into PPTP and L2 TP quite easily, and if they identify the IP addresses of a connection in which they are interested, then they are able to read the transmitted messages in seconds (not quite real time).

I recommend that mongers who are concerned with security use the VPN's SSTP (Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol) which, I admit is a bit slower because of the additional encryption used. And, of course, if you are really anal about security then you can use the Tor onion.

Ikks.