General Reports

Why do you not inject testosterone? It is way cheaper then the gel. I inject and it is easy enough to do. I think the thing they put in you that self releases isn't that expensive either. Certainly no where close to 42 a day.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2230135]In light of Robert Long's positive comments on testosterone, I thought I'd quantify my description of "Painfully expensive in USA" for the gel. I use Androgel 1.62% and I'm just finishing the last little bit that was paid by insurance. I need 2 pumps per day of 1.62% Androgel to get to just 350 total testosterone and 4 pumps per day to get to 450 total testosterone. Looking at online Rx price references, I'm expecting 2 pumps per day to cost about $21/day and the 4 pumps per day to cost about $42 per day.

Different people use different amounts of this stuff. I'm impressed with level of 1000 at age 72, I doubt that I could get there.

I've noticed that online prices show there is generic Androgel 1.0% available. This will probably cost about $3 per day or $6 per day for similar amount of testosterone. Still not cheap.

I believe I read that people were getting testosterone injections for much less money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio;2230605]Why do you not inject testosterone? It is way cheaper then the gel. I inject and it is easy enough to do. I think the thing they put in you that self releases isn't that expensive either. Certainly no where close to 42 a day.[/QUOTE]My doctor went straight to the Androgel without any other suggestions. It was easy, it works, and was covered by insurance. I have different insurance now that doesn't pay for Androgel. I'm considering different treatments as well as different insurance.

I'm in USA so this sort of treatment needs to be prescribed by my doctor. I can make requests, but I cannot just get any treatment that I want.

[QUOTE=XXL;2230427]Did you get libido problems from minoxidil? It's not supposed to interfere with libido. I've been using minoxidil for decades. Wouldn't touch propecia with a barge-pole though.

Have the gentlemen here who use testosterone first given DHEA a try? DHEA is a logical first-ditch step.[/QUOTE]The minoxidil did not effect my libido, but I did have systemic effects from it such as shortness of breath, puffy eyes, etc. Happened to me on three different occasions. The sides kicked in after about a month of use and took a few weeks to abate after stopping. Perhaps it was due to using a local brand where quality control is not so good. I don't know.

We should be talking about libido increasers.

I bought this bottle of Smirnoff Max 37% from Tesco Supermarket fairly cheaply.

I did not really like it. Tasted faintly like red bull. Maybe has Guarana. A little bit sweet.

GF likes Japanese "Ume" (plum wine) from Max Value or Big see, but this is much stronger.

She liked it and seemed to work very well as a leg opener such that having just showered, she even gave the big hint, that daughter is not home for a while.

She did complain my face was not quite smooth in the DATY. She prefers absolutely smooth (my shave was not quite good).

Just like we prefer smooth pussy and no finger nails on dick.

Not sure if she smoked any Ganja today, as could not smell it. Normally that is the big way to make her horny.

Might push my luck and try to get one 3 days running. After many years, still not bored to fuck her.

A good fit pussy stays good, even expands a bit during the sex to allow full penetration by the end.

I had not yet eaten anything today, only water and coffee, so that helps me to be strong, even if wasn't necessary in the morning.

Good sleep + no food + BBFS + no wanking in recent times + wildcat girl = all help for making me cum easy today.

She complained to be tired and enough, just before I did cum. Too much writhing. LOL.

She later asked (in gest) if I would like a second round? LOL She never gives a second round and usually 40 minutes in her limit. We used only 35.

Continue to lose weight does no harm at all. Sex after a big meal is not as good. Your body is putting much effort into the digestion process.

These thoughts should be obvious I suppose. Common sense.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2230896]We should be talking about libido increasers..[/QUOTE]Ganja makes me horny. Unfortunately, when in BKK.

But the rest of your post is spot on to the max. I am losing weight and gaining back my pecker prowess. Sam with no food before the hum, don't let digestion interfere.

I was just reading somewhere Thailand is ranked 2nd in the world for worst levels of road carnage. Just this year have heard of two guys from local village killed on Motorcycles. One a teenager (raced into side of a truck), and one a family man at new year (Songkran), possibly drunk or hit by drunk driver. Found mangled on roadside. Helmets? Maybe not.

Thais mostly go and buy a driver's license. So no necessity to know the road rules, and certainly don't abstain when drunk.

If Thais should go for a driver's test, they have to have a certificate guaranteeing their eye sight is good enough, from a Doctor, or Hospital. They go and purchase the certificate. No eye testing actually happens. A high proportion are short sighted and may need glasses for driving. Doesn't really happen that they drive with glasses on I think.

Yes still a very corrupt country. Is the military government fixing things? They are more image conscious rather than making real change, one feels. Stupid things like clean the street food vendors off certain main roads. Illegal late night cart bars can still open if they pay enough.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2230935]I was just reading somewhere Thailand is ranked 2nd in the world for worst levels of road carnage. Just this year have heard of two guys from local village killed on Motorcycles. One a teenager (raced into side of a truck), and one a family man at new year (Songkran), possibly drunk or hit by drunk driver. Found mangled on roadside. Helmets? Maybe not.

Thais mostly go and buy a driver's license. So no necessity to know the road rules, and certainly don't abstain when drunk.

If Thais should go for a driver's test, they have to have a certificate guaranteeing their eye sight is good enough, from a Doctor, or Hospital. They go and purchase the certificate. No eye testing actually happens. A high proportion are short sighted and may need glasses for driving. Doesn't really happen that they drive with glasses on I think.

Yes still a very corrupt country. Is the military government fixing things? They are more image conscious rather than making real change, one feels. Stupid things like clean the street food vendors off certain main roads. Illegal late night cart bars can still open if they pay enough.[/QUOTE]That was a few years back, the last two they are ranked #1 in the world. Sure there will be individuals who might disagree and try to turn the numbers to defend.

As for road rules, it is tough for any country to enforce or teach when those doing the enforcing or teaching have a different interpretation than what the rule was intended or actually execution. Thus the ignorant phrase Thais use " this is thailand ".

My opinion? The last read Thailand was ranked something like 96 in the world for corruption and yet the corruption is so open and in your face, one wonders what it would be like if they were rank higher. A few years I read due to corruption Thailand loses something like 200 billion a year plus in a survey, Thai people feel a bit of corruption is acceptable too. The current guy is nothing but a puppet in my opinion appointed solely to keep order before the big day comes which already has come and gone HM. The guy loves the job who wouldn't with all the so-called benefits and the delay of the vote has only re-enforce to guy like me everything is being done and put in place so he is sure to win. It is nothing but smoke and mirrors the leaders have pretty much mastered it here? Fixing things would mean the end of a good thing and a steady stream of baht.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2230935]I was just reading somewhere Thailand is ranked 2nd in the world for worst levels of road carnage. Just this year have heard of two guys from local village killed on Motorcycles. One a teenager (raced into side of a truck), and one a family man at new year (Songkran), possibly drunk or hit by drunk driver. Found mangled on roadside. Helmets? Maybe not.

Thais mostly go and buy a driver's license. So no necessity to know the road rules, and certainly don't abstain when drunk.

If Thais should go for a driver's test, they have to have a certificate guaranteeing their eye sight is good enough, from a Doctor, or Hospital. They go and purchase the certificate. No eye testing actually happens. A high proportion are short sighted and may need glasses for driving. Doesn't really happen that they drive with glasses on I think.

Yes still a very corrupt country. Is the military government fixing things? They are more image conscious rather than making real change, one feels. Stupid things like clean the street food vendors off certain main roads. Illegal late night cart bars can still open if they pay enough.[/QUOTE]Have you ever been and driven in Indonesia? It is pure insanity. Tour Busses run families on motorbikes off the road. Drivers are so rude they do not let anyone cut into the flow. In Jakarta men stop the flow of major streets so that the other side road cars can immerge, and the cars that immerge throw small money to the man for his service. Balinese are wonderful people until they get behind the wheel, then they turn into pure evil. Motorbikes by the hundreds are like fly's on shit, weaving their way thru the masses of cars.

Thailand is a dream to drive in compared to Indonesia. Motorbike accidents happen all day long you see at least 3 a day as you drive to your destination.

RL.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2231160]Have you ever been and driven in Indonesia? It is pure insanity.[/QUOTE]Driving in Indonesia is an insane mess, but traffic almost always moves slowly, due to a permanent traffic jam everywhere and narrow, poor quality roads. In Thailand, the roads are so much better, so everyone moves much faster (140 km / h is not unusual even on normal 4-lane roads, and occasionally up to 100 km / h in the city), and the consequences of an accident are more serious (at least for cars; motorbikes are toast either way).

In Indonesia, when I'm in a taxi or Grab Car, I'm more afraid of ending up in a ditch (their ditches are numerous and deep!) than of contact with another car. In Thailand, I just pray nobody (either my driver or another car/bus/van) makes the wrong move.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2231160]Thailand is a dream to drive in compared to Indonesia. Motorbike accidents happen all day long you see at least 3 a day as you drive to your destination.

RL.[/QUOTE]What you wrote sounds similar to Thailand but maybe not as bad here. I may only see 3 motorbike accidents every 10 years here. Very common to hear here of a motorbike being smashed up after was lent to a friend, girlfriend, etc. who has no experience, no care, drunk, etc.

I can ask Natty be for his opinion too. I would be interested to know what is the reason for being worse than Thailand? Do the people have a different mindset, or roads much worse?

Are Indonesians more aggressive in general? More selfish? Do they have even less "kreng jai" (imposing on others) than Thais?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2231734]What you wrote sounds similar to Thailand but maybe not as bad here. I may only see 3 motorbike accidents every 10 years here.

I can ask Natty be for his opinion too. I would be interested to know what is the reason for being worse than Thailand? Do the people have a different mindset, or roads much worse?

Are Indonesians more aggressive in general? More selfish? Do they have even less "kreng jai" (imposing on others) than Thais?[/QUOTE]Having driven in Java, Lombok and Bali I can say that the Thais probably obey the rules of the road more. In Bali in particular it is a common sight to see motor bikes being ridden on fairly crowded footpaths with scowls on the riders face if you do not give them room to pass. The Indonesians can turn a 2 lane dual carriageway into 3 lanes and I mean in cars not bikes.

The roads I have traveled in Thailand are superior to Indonesian roads comparing tollways as the Thai roads are less congested and run smoother.

[QUOTE=RobJones;2231739]Having driven in Java, Lombok and Bali I can say that the Thais probably obey the rules of the road more. .[/QUOTE]I thought there was only 1 rule here: "whoever gets there first, wins" I have finally driven in Thailand these last two years but only out in the country. Don't fancy the unpredictability of other drivers in traffic. The level of watchfulness required is perhaps too much for me in Bangkok. Motorcycles dodging and weaving. I am just too concerned I could hit one easily That appeared out of no where. I think everyone almost needs a new set of skills to drive here.

Not sure if my temperament is right (impatient) to handle other drivers trying to edge the front corner of their vehicle in front of mine. You really have to be ultra cool here.

I hate 50%+ of taxi drivers, because of the continual pumping of the pedals, mostly for no apparent reason, causing a very jerky ride. This is not Formula 1, right? They would not get a license in my country.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2231734]What you wrote sounds similar to Thailand but maybe not as bad here. I may only see 3 motorbike accidents every 10 years here. Very common to hear here of a motorbike being smashed up after was lent to a friend, girlfriend, etc. who has no experience, no care, drunk, etc.

I can ask Natty be for his opinion too. I would be interested to know what is the reason for being worse than Thailand? Do the people have a different mindset, or roads much worse?

Are Indonesians more aggressive in general? More selfish? Do they have even less "kreng jai" (imposing on others) than Thais?[/QUOTE]You've obviously never been to Indonesia. There is no comparison. There are very few motorbikes on the streets in Thailand relative to Indonesia. At any red light in Jakarta at rush hour, there will be a couple hundred motorbikes stacked up at the front of the cue in between and all around the cars when the light changes to green. You don't see that in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2231782]You've obviously never been to Indonesia. There is no comparison. There are very few motorbikes on the streets in Thailand relative to Indonesia. At any red light in Jakarta at rush hour, there will be a couple hundred motorbikes stacked up at the front of the cue in between and all around the cars when the light changes to green. You don't see that in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I've only been in Thailand for 2 months and the roadways scare me. BKK is crazy, but car speeds are slow. The place that scares me is Koh Samui. Narrow, twisting mountain roads where scooters have 3 people and max out at about 20 km/hr up a hill. Meanwhile, cars are going 80 km/hr and they cross and pass 3-cars wide or 2 cars plus 2 scooters. That on narrow 2 lane road.

I watched one accident where a car sideswiped a scooter to the ground. My taxi driver acted as if it didn't even happen. All cars kept moving. I have no idea what happened to the scooter rider.

I'll never get on a scooter in Thailand. Being in a taxi is crazy enough. Too many Thai people are not safety conscious. It’s worse than lack of training and laws.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2231160]Have you ever been and driven in Indonesia? It is pure insanity.

Thailand is a dream to drive in compared to Indonesia. Motorbike accidents happen all day long you see at least 3 a day as you drive to your destination.[/QUOTE]You must understand that the real and only danger to indonesian society is narkoba! narkoba!

What is it if people get killed and mained by the hundreds each day, as long as they don't get high? The wheels of trucks and car need to be greased with the blood and viscera of healthy drug-free youth who are the proud future of the nation.

If running over people is your kick Indonesia is a paradise. Be careful the cops who arrive at the carnage scene don't find a suspicious tablet in your blood-splashed car though because you'll be in serious trouble. Of course if your car is not seriously dammaged from the smashing of bodies you can ride on immediately without waiting for the cops. You can cover dried bloodstains on your bumper with anti narkoba stickers.