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[QUOTE=CharlesDickin;1654362] {S N I P} As a bonus she would not let me pay because she'd had such a good time. She wouldn't even let me insist so there was no confusion.{S N I P} [/QUOTE]Entertaining report until I got to the 2 sentences above. This type of claim will always raise huge doubts in readers as to the veracity of the rest of the post.

It has never happened to me, but if it by some miracle did occur to me, I would not report it in a forum like ISG, as I would fear becoming a target for ridicule.

[QUOTE=Weben;1654514] {S N I P} it is easy to get freebies with the domestic helpers (if you are there on a Sunday); sometimes they might hint for a little compensation. Rates are low if you know where to go and service can be great if you speak a little Putonghua. {S N I P}[/QUOTE]There are plenty of DH girls who have days off other than Sunday. Yes, one does need to know where to go (RTTF). My favourite place is Shatin.

I was confused with your reference to Putonghua. I did not know there were numbers of PRC girls working as DHers.

Ikksman
[SUP][i]"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"[/i][/SUP]

Sensible advice again Ikksman. It is really true but now you mention it I guess I shouldn't have. Won't make that mistake again. Live and learn. Thanks again. You're a good man.

I need to change my mind a bit about 141. Walks up seem more reliable than call ups.

Short.

141 Betty, Young Buddies, TST. 1200 for foreigners for 20 min. Mainly terrible service. The 60's BBBJ is good while it lasts. No touching or kissing but plenty of talking on the phone.

'Long'.

Thought I would try a hotel girl because she looked so hot in the pictures. She's Betty from Young Buddies. Young yes, buddy no. Made an appointment by SMS. She's operating out of the Ramada. When I arrived a different girl opened the door gave me a stern look and then left the room and up the stairs. I guess another Young Buddy.

I knocked again and Betty opened it this time. She did a twirl and asked 'ok'? Yes more than ok. Very hot. She invited me in. She took out her phone and typed in 1200. The website said 1000 but as most everything else I've tried has been higher than the advertised price I said ok.

When I undressed she started making comments in Chinese about the Dickins quill and ink pots. I had a shower while she stood by the bath and helped a little. She made sure the quill was clean. That felt very good. On to the bed for me while she spent a few minutes unnecessarily rearranging the box of tissues. That was when the first phone call happened. Immediately followed by another. Then another. She also sent a few messages. She finally joined me on the bed and gave what turned out to be a very good BBBJ. I think she's really hot looking so that helped. But the BJ was interrupted by a knock at the door. So total BJ time was max 2 min. But a very good 2 min.

When Betty returned to the bed she lay down next to me. I then discovered no kissing anywhere. No touching. I was expecting no sex allowed also. But she handed me my condom and indicated missionary. She made a few more comments. I didn't understand but they sure didn't sound very encouraging. I went slowly and carefully for 30's, there was plenty of room, then went a bit quickr. After a couple of minutes she indicated change so she went on top. This was also enjoyable mainly because of the view. But more phone calls. Then she spent a few minutes typing messages.

When she returned to the bed I had gone half limp. So she grabbed me with one hand and reached behind with the other and grabber her phone. She was then talking on the phone while trying to give me a HJ. Hopeless. When she finished her call she asked 'more time one thousand'? I think of the 25 min I was there she was on the phone nearly 20 of them.

I took a half hearted shower mostly alone, again she stood outside the bath and used her hand to clean the equipment. She was back on the phone while I dressed. I put 1200 on the desk and left. As I opened the door the stern looking girl was just arriving. She gave me another stern look and entered the room.

I'll stick to door to door sales. Thanks to Weben for answering my question about Fuji building. I will give that a try.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1654706]And now the HK ISG board has morphed into the Australian visa board and how many hours Lee Cum Park can legally work.

Too bad for guys who are actually searching for information about HK.

Maybe the Sydney brothel board has some info on HK sex? Big LOL.

I actually love the tangents these boards go off on, and have no problem with it at all.[/QUOTE]Sorry FF, just some info related to Chantik's post, I will be more careful in future.

Teltel.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1654784]Entertaining report until I got to the 2 sentences above. This type of claim will always raise huge doubts in readers as to the veracity of the rest of the post.

I was confused with your reference to Putonghua. I did not know there were numbers of PRC girls working as DHers.

Ikksman
[SUP][i]"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"[/i][/SUP][/QUOTE]That should have been a new sentence. A poster a while back stated how (in his opinion) HK is not that great to monger and I tend to disagree. It is just a little more diverse; the walk-ups are good deals, some with very attractive women, but if you want to build a little rapport you need to be able to chat and most don't speak good English, if at all. For me the convenience factor is great as there are probably at least half a dozen places from my apartment on the island site and TST is just a short trip on the metro.

The DH girls are different as those from the Philippines nearly always speak great English.

It's a simple request as to why there are few Korean girls in HK. Many go to OZ. Nothing more to it.

I must live in a different world. My phone is on silent during meetings. Wouldn't dream of answering a call. Gents need to be stronger with this issue.

[QUOTE=CharlesDickin;1654789]I need to change my mind a bit about 141. Walks up seem more reliable than call ups.
Short.
141 Betty, Young Buddies, TST. 1200 for foreigners for 20 min. Mainly terrible service. The 60's BBBJ is good while it lasts. No touching or kissing but plenty of talking on the phone.
.[/QUOTE]I'm beginning to warm to CD's reports after having slated him on his 1st lengthy report. (I read War and Peace quicker).

However, I feel he is being screwed more often than he is screwing but good luck to him.

[QUOTE=CharlesDickin;1654789]I need to change my mind a bit about 141. Walks up seem more reliable than call ups.

Short.

141 Betty, Young Buddies, TST. 1200 for foreigners for 20 min. Mainly terrible service. The 60's BBBJ is good while it lasts. No touching or kissing but plenty of talking on the phone.

[/QUOTE]Hello CD,

I'm sorry for what happened to you. Many posters here said that 141 websites ("Young Buddies") are a hit and miss, but I've personally never had a single bad experience (luck?

I usually target the girls on the 700-900 range.

Below that point you get sub-pars, or blurred photos. Many may try to compensate by trying hard, but you get a similar friendly experience from the DH market for free so.

Above the 1,000 point (Japanese and Korean aside), they're all divas.

I've usually got the same girl I chose on the website. Photos are (heavily) photoshopped, so I usually select those that have a video.

The experience is usually great: friendly gals, willing to please and good looking.

On one occasion the gal I asked was not there (the person on the phone told me after I insisted it must be {can't remember her fake name} or else I'd leave) so I asked (in Cantonese) if I could see the others and she invited me in to the main room. I got the line up, choose one I liked and I went to another room.

- Has any one else got line ups from 141's? Way better than choosing on a website (it always takes me hours!

This is a courtesy post to respond to the kind and helpful members. There's no lady contact information or lady review, good or bad.

I've put all the thanks into one post, so you've only one post to skip. I hope that's OK. I've put my flak jacket on already.

Jackthelad2, I actually welcomed your initial response. It was honest and made me change for the better. Initially I was over tired and over excited. With hindsight I think that too much anticipation of something only leads to disappointment. I've had different experiences from what I planned.

I owe FreebieFan an apology because first time round I missed his help underneath the HK / China debate. Sorry!

Thank you too Mvulane. If Betty Young Buddy had been my first 141 she would have been my last. Betty does have a video and I enjoyed looking at it more than once. Again I think I built up too much expectation. She looked different in real life but still very hot and my taste so I wasn't disappointed in that respect. May be the video difference was just the makeup. I looked again afterwards at that video and some more and all the girls seem to have the same makeup style.

I have learnt that for rookies who don't speak Chinese that going round a good sized 141 building yourself is the best. No photoshop tricks and you can see right away if the lady is your taste and you are hers. When the very first door I tried refused me I was a bit shocked. Good that I changed my initial plans from visiting Japan. But thinking about it now that was way better than what happened with Betty. I think the lady also has a right to choose / refuse customers. It's only fair as the customer is also choosing a lady.

I did find all the many signs on some 141 doors overwhelming especially as I could not read most of it. Some of the signs are funny.

I haven't made so many attempts so I don't know if I've been unlucky or not. Mainly I made dumb choices for me, phone booking without seeing the full picture and another phone booking without speaking Chinese and Makati where I couldn't hear or see. After my first post there were others saying that Makati is not so suitable right now. It was perfect during the spot checks because the lights were on, the music off, and everybody standing still. Unfortunately the girls I really liked arrived with guys already. I wonder where they met.

Instead I should have had dinner with an Escape girl but that advice wasn't available at the time. But I always knew I'm a bad pick up artist so I shouldn't have ever gone down that road. But you guys make it seem so easy!

Also thanks for Mvulane's advice about Fuji. If I have time I will try to climb Mt Fuji. Before I saw your post I had just tried Phoenix Apartments and they were exactly as you said. I went there because I read somewhere else that Phoenix had many choices. This is why ISG is the best!

Be wary of reviews on the 141 site. I am talking about the 141 site, and not the 141 forum. Girls pay to advertise on the 141 forum and the reviews can be questionable. And bad reviews can cause ladies lots of grief. And good reviews are not necessarily that good. You will find out more in the cantonese section of 141 site.

[QUOTE=RamnHK;1654022]According to the staff at K-Pressure, they are about the service and not the looks. A visitor friend of mine was there 2 months back and reported crap service back then. Last week he went there again and had the time of his life. As for 37 Dundas, there are two places there. One on the first and one on the second floor. The one on the second floor I am told has older providers. Reports on local forums have some good things to say about some of the providers in these two places. There are however providers who prefer against being with a Westerner and this may affect the choices available to non Chinese.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Looks like a matter of customer's luck then. I will probably opt for hunting on a bar scene instead of these establishments.

Is there consensus that K pressure and dundas isn't very good? I am in my early 20's looking to go on crazy spree and I don't think it can do too old or bigger ladies. First time in Hong Kong. Any suggestion where to go or what my best options are? I can speak fluent English and Cantonese, but unable to read Chinese so not sure if 141 is a good choice. Any advice for a fellow newbie would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Shedrain;1655924]Is there consensus that K pressure and dundas isn't very good? I am in my early 20's looking to go on crazy spree and I don't think it can do too old or bigger ladies. First time in Hong Kong. Any suggestion where to go or what my best options are? I can speak fluent English and Cantonese, but unable to read Chinese so not sure if 141 is a good choice. Any advice for a fellow newbie would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Your in your early 20's and speak fluent Cantonese? If this is the case, why don't you invest a little time and try talking to the million of pretty girls that are everywhere?

It might take a little effort, but if you have any game at all, and are willing to invest the money you would be using for P2P, you will probably have a much more rewarding experience.

If that doesn't work, you can always fall back on 141 to get your needs fulfilled.

My $.02.

Uncle Junior

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1655118]I'm sorry for what happened to you. Many posters here said that 141 websites ("Young Buddies") are a hit and miss, but I've personally never had a single bad experience.
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I usually target the girls on the 700-900 range.
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I've usually got the same girl I chose on the website. Photos are (heavily) Photoshopped, so I usually select those that have a video.
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- Has any one else got line ups from 141's? Way better than choosing on a website (it always takes me hours![/QUOTE]Yes, photos are touched up and / or older. However, you can read the forum for some very thorough reviews on the girls. I usually pick a few and if they are not what I am looking for when I see them in person, I just move on to the next girl on my list. Don't feel bad, the girls turn away guys all the time. And, many Chinese men just walk entire building knocking on doors. If you spend a little time looking, you can get a nice clean, pretty and enthusiastic 141 women for $500-600. I only go higher with the hotel girls, but what you are getting is younger girls from the mainland who usually don't provide great service. However, their nice tight 19-20 year old bodies will turn you on, if only someone would explain to them they should shave.