Sauna Reviews

[QUOTE=Kapoor78]Having benefited immensely from this forum, I would like to give back some thing in the form of the following report on my visit to Golden Sauna in Macau.

First things first, use their system to get value for your money!
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All in all the key message I want to convey is, taking the lowest package, did not deter us in getting performance. I will definitely go again in my next visit.[/QUOTE]

Your excellent report confirms, if ever needed more, that Macau is always a great experience.
No matter where you go.
You might spend a bit less and still get a decent and honest service.
You go the high end establishments and you get excellent service.
Of course each one needs a bit of luck with the girl, but I don't think that an unfortunate experience deliberately happens for the purpose of cheating the customer.
It is just bad luck, nothing to claim much other than put it in the "to forget book"

[QUOTE=Kapoor78]Having benefited immensely from this forum, I would like to give back some thing in the form of the following report on my visit to Golden Sauna in Macau.

First things first, use their system to get value for your money!

Golden Sauna has different rates for different services; full service with girls starts some where around +1300 HK$ (or MP), how ever they do have an item where if you

let the Sauna select a girl for you it will cost you only 730 HK$. More importantly this service comes with massage and 90 minute duration, where as when you select the

girl its only 60 minute. Now many of us might have an apprehension to let Sauna select a girl, but my experience is excellent.

As I do not speak any of Chinese language (Cantonese, etc.,), I have requested them a girl with English knowledge. The care taker, came back saying that the

chosen girl speaks very little English and asked me not to expect more. Actually it turned out that her little English is far better and. though broken and speaking in small words, she was able to communicate everything including her own personal life on her family etc.,

The girl herself is a tall (around 5' 4'' and well endowed one) from Vietnamese background. Before going to Golden Sauna, I had my session with 18 Sauna, where I have paid 1730 HK$ and I can swear that I felt much better with the girl (both in looks and service) in Golden Sauna. This does not mean 18 Sauna is not good, I enjoyed there too and that will be in another report!

In summary I felt that Management did not try to fool around but they made their best attempt to give a girl of good choice. So definitely, next time I will use their choice, to save around 600 HK$.

Now on the process itself, this forum has other reports and I can only confirm once again that the experience is exciting in the least. The sole purpose I went there is because I have read about they allowing the girls to interact with customer in a quite intimate way, before actual selection process begins. When I went there On Friday night around 11.45 PM, at the very entrance itself there was a line-up of around 20 girls (I did not even enter the locker place) and I was asked to make a choice. I was a bit disappointed as the girls are wearing bikini's and small dresses, nothing seems to happen (intimacy) as it was reported. When I told them that I will take some time to choose, they have ushered me in as usual.

The real show began after around 30 minutes (or it might be next show, after I entered), in the lounge place. While we are all seated on sofas (after dress change), lights are dimmed and a person started speaking in Chinese. Then one each girl, with only panties and half nude came and sat with each of the customer. Then a series of titillating experiences followed as follows, each for about half to a full minute:

- the girl, remember she is only with panty, lied on me and started nibbling my year. (All actions for each of the customer)
- then the girl has shifted, that is my neighbor's girl came over to me and mine went to next customer, opened my gown and rubbed her breast on my chest
- next girl came in sat in my lap to give a brief lap rubbing with her buttocks
- next girl came in covered herself and my waist down with a towel. Then she opened my underwear, took out the penis and cleaned with a wet tissue, thoroughly.
- on the last signal, the same girl above (who cleaned it) gave a nice and brief blow-job, under a minute.

Then all girls went off. And normal line-up started.

I must say, that before entering the lounge, I have already made it clear that I will take the 730 HK$ package (lowest), still they ushered me to lounge, and allowed me to go through all the above process, not to speak about the free un-limited drinks, food and cigarettes! I felt that they are doing their best, even though they had a house full customers.

Coming back to the girl herself, I was led to a room and the girl bathed me fully and playfully. There was no soapy massage on a chair / mattress. (I do not know whether it will not be there for every one or for my self with lowest package). But the girl allowed me to do all I wanted to do and she cleaned me thoroughly. After drying up, she asked me to lie down on the bed and proceeded with a very sensual experience.

Unlike in 18 Sauna, she did not bring down any ice cubes or hot tea. So I was thinking that is (hot and cold BJ) not included in my package. How ever she brought with her Listerine (mouth wash), diluted it and put it her in mouth. With that she gave me an excellent body kisses, where at each of the sensitive parts, she was occasionally letting the Listerine to touch my body and thus giving a very burning sensation (like menthol). I was amazed as she was continuously licking my body and only at intervals she allowed the liquid to touch my body for that warm sensation. She then proceeded with BBBJ with diluted Listerine and I felt that this experience was better than hot and cold BJ. She even asked me whether she should do BBBJ with pressure or lightly, saying that if she applies pressure, I might ejaculate and finish it off? (All this in her so called poor English!). Later she proceeded with condom for the normal coitus session with her in top and ending with missionary.

By that time 60 minutes are over and I was completely relaxed. To my surprise, she then reminded me that we still have 30 more minutes and she has to give me massage. I asked her to take rest and we cuddled together closely and continued small talk until our time was over.

All in all the key message I want to convey is, taking the lowest package, did not deter us in getting performance. I will definitely go again in my next visit.[/QUOTE]


Good report Kapoor. My experience is that these saunas are competitive and the Viet girl choice for the lower cost is quite sufficient. Familia Nobre has nice facilities but must try Golden next visit.

PC out

[QUOTE=Bionicman]what's the definition of Shangai massage there?
I keep on seeing and experiencing different ones. Once in Rio it was a plain massage..not kinky at all
the girl refused to carry on anything more. I don't know if they are monitored or as she pushed for a private meeting in my room later...:)[/QUOTE]

Yes, you are right.

At BOSS Shanghai massage was always a well done legit massage (mainly with oil) and a dedicated HJ. They have a standard procedure for the massage, which didn't change much during the last years. It seems to me that most of the massage people went through a standard training how to massage. So they do all more or less the same - in a 5 star hotel spa as well as the BOSS massage area.

When it came to the HJ at BOSS they asked me always if I want to have with or without oil. The woman/girl (with her clothes) seats on the massage table, you can lay your legs on hers, and gives you a dedicated HJ. I liked this style, because they gave you a great service, it was always always relaxed, the women know what they are doing, and they want to give you pleasure. Not more, not less. At BOSS the HJ is included in the price of the Shanghai massage.

At other places a Shanghai massage is an acronym for a legit Swedish massage. Therefore I ask in front what a Shanghai massage includes.

[QUOTE=Whomer]Yes, you are right.

At BOSS Shanghai massage was always a well done legit massage (mainly with oil) and a dedicated HJ. They have a standard procedure for the massage, which didn't change much during the last years. It seems to me that most of the massage people went through a standard training how to massage. So they do all more or less the same - in a 5 star hotel spa as well as the BOSS massage area.

When it came to the HJ at BOSS they asked me always if I want to have with or without oil. The woman/girl (with her clothes) seats on the massage table, you can lay your legs on hers, and gives you a dedicated HJ. I liked this style, because they gave you a great service, it was always always relaxed, the women know what they are doing, and they want to give you pleasure. Not more, not less. At BOSS the HJ is included in the price of the Shanghai massage.

At other places a Shanghai massage is an acronym for a legit Swedish massage. Therefore I ask in front what a Shanghai massage includes.[/QUOTE]

Whomer, when I was in Macau, a Shanghai meant legit, and Thai massage in Guangzhou meant exactly what you are describing above.

[QUOTE=Stew2]Whomer, when I was in Macau, a Shanghai meant legit, and Thai massage in Guangzhou meant exactly what you are describing above.[/QUOTE]

So, I will do some further checks on this issue this week in Macau and Shenzhen. :)

[QUOTE=Whomer]So, I will do some further checks on this issue this week in Macau and Shenzhen. :)[/QUOTE]

Yes, we expect a full research report!

so last weekend i made another trip to macau. i've been to macau 4 times in 8 months now. needless to say, i'm quite addicted. i can't believe i've been living in hong kong for the past 10 years and didn't make a trip to this island paradise until last december. glad i was shown the light.

i love saunas. sure, bars are great and everything, but nothing compares to the comfort, quality, and luxury of an upscale sauna. i've been to 18 twice and rio once, and i've come to the conclusion that while rio has more posh facilities, 18 has the better girls, so i decided to go with the girls this time.

this was my 3rd time at 18 and the experience was just as spectacular as ever.

i went to 18 at around 10:30 pm on a friday night. the place was already pretty packed when i got in but there were still vacant seats rep001tered around.

one thing that was different this time was that when i was showering, a girl came in out of nowhere and helped me wash up. i've seen this before with other guys but have never experienced it myself. the girl was average, but was very friendly and all smiles. she lathered me up real nice and good, stroked my member a few times while giggling, and let me feel her up a bit through her bikini. afterwards, she dried me down with a towel and lead me over to the robe-changing area. there was no mention of a fee, but i was sure she expected a little something for her help in the shower, so i left a 100 tip. the girl seemed pretty happy.

i decided to get something to eat first as i was too busy playing craps to eat dinner before. i went to the eating area and got some noodles and a beer. during my meal, a few chinese girls came up to me to make small talk. they were all 700 series girls and wanted me to get to know them better after i was done eating. they were all quite pretty, but none of them got me going in that way, so i declined.

after i finished my meal, i went back to my chair. almost immediately after sitting down, i was hounded for various services. i settled on a foot massage and thigh massage. the girls kept pressuring to do both at the same time and i had to insist on having them done separately.

the foot massage was, well, a foot massage. nothing special there. the thigh massage was amazing. for those who don't know, a thigh massage is basically a very well-oiled handjob. the girl straddled me cowgirl style and slid her hands up my shorts. she was very liberal with the oil and annoyingly talented at keeping me from cumming. every time she knew she made me almost cum but denied me the pleasure at the very last second, she would grin mischievously at me.

the thigh massage was too much for me. after the session was over, i went to the restroom to rub one out. i came so hard unbelievably hard! it sounds kind of weird to be jacking off in a sauna, of all places, but i was going to get some serious blue balls from that thigh massage if i didn't cum. besides, i figured it would make me last longer with the main course.

after i had thoroughly relieved myself, i went back to relax on the lounge chair. i had another beer while waiting for the show to begin.

the show that night featured about 70-80 girls. all stunners. i'd say they were all at least an 8, lot of 9s, and a few 10s. there were simply so many girls that i didn't know which one to pick. i wanted at least 20! but seeing how there were a lot of guys that night, the real knockouts were getting picked fast, so i decided to make a decision quickly.

i picked #724, a vietnamese girl (didn't really catch her name), 22 years old, about 162 cm, slim, great skin with a nice tan, luscious lips, straight hair down to her waist, and an awesome dd rack. they were fake, but the boob job was so good that it could almost pass for real. she didn't speak much english, but she was smiling all the time and very flirty. lots of kissing, dfk, and gfe. we started with the shower, massage, and some bbbj. then we dried off and went back to the bed for some more bbbj before i took her missionary, cowgirl, standing doggy against the wall, and finally finished in missionary again. afterwards, we cuddled and talked for awhile before showering again and leaving the room.

face = 9, body = 10, service = 9. if you love beautiful racks and don't mind that they're fake (albeit very nice fake ones), then this is the girl for you! you will not be disappointed.

the total cost came to about 2200, including the 100 tip i left for the shower girl. worth every penny, in my opinion. sure, 18 was crowded on a weekend night and the place is neither as big nor as luxurious as rio, but the girls are where 18 really shines. don't get me wrong, the girls at rio are very nice, but the ones at 18 never fail to rock my world.

so that's it for 18. i'll post another field update on the venetian food court girls when i have more time tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Seamaster811]So last weekend I made another trip to Macau. I've been to Macau 4 times in 8 months now. Needless to say, I'm quite addicted. I can't believe I've been living in Hong Kong for the past 10 years and didn't make a trip to this island paradise until last December. Glad I was shown the light.

I love saunas. Sure, bars are great and everything, but nothing compares to the comfort, quality, and luxury of an upscale sauna. I've been to 18 twice and Rio once, and I've come to the conclusion that while Rio has more posh facilities, 18 has the better girls, so I decided to go with the girls this time.

This was my 3rd time at 18 and the experience was just as spectacular as ever.
So that's it for 18. I'll post another field update on the Venetian food court girls when I have more time tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report
Pretty much interesting
Thought the damage could be less than that since you seemed to have used 3 main services: foot massage, thigh massage (smart girls...never make you cum! at Rio it is done in a private room so you get your pants down) and the main course. Unless they charge you for the japamese shwoer, that is waht they call the welcome shower aided by a girl.
Pretty much same damage one can have at Rio, rated more expensive.
Anyhow these are details
I agree....how can one stay in HK and not going to Macau.
Macau sauna experience is second to none!

[QUOTE=Bionicman]I agree....how can one stay in HK and not going to Macau.
Macau sauna experience is second to none![/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I always thought that Macau girls were 99% Chinese and didn't happily cater to non-Asians. I don't know where I got that from, but the misconception kept me in HK and out of "man's heaven" for 10 years.

Sad, I know.

Then one day my girlfriend goes, "Hey, let's go check out the casinos in Macau!"

Ironic, ha ha.

If it weren't so hard to explain my leaving Hong Kong to the GF, I'd be mongering in Macau every other weekend :-P

Last week I had sthe same sad experience. I was in hk many times for business alone and ALWAYS made a trip to macau for a nice sauna night.

This time my wife came with me and wanted to see the casinos.

What a waste of time, we went to different casinos (venetian, wynn, lisboa) and everywhere I saw the nice girls, like in lisboa "racetrack", we even passed 18sauna. But no way to ask her "you go to casino I will go to sauna! "

I felt so sad, and happy to go back to Hong Kong a few hours later, where I could get away for 2 hours and visit "k pressure".

Thomas Jefferson

[QUOTE=Seamaster811]Sad, I know.

Then one day my girlfriend goes, "Hey, let's go check out the casinos in Macau!"

Ironic, ha ha.

If it weren't so hard to explain my leaving Hong Kong to the GF, I'd be mongering in Macau every other weekend :-P[/QUOTE]

Seamaster

Thanks for the report and glad for you you finally discovered Macau ! What happened with The Venetian ladies than ??

I like 'em... back in a few days, booked in Venetian than MGM. Miam...

Sorry for the one-week delay. We have some coworkers who were new to Hong Kong and needed to be shown the “sights”. Kept me busy all week.

So last time I reported on my trip to 18 Sauna. Well the next day was Saturday, and that night I decided to give the Venetian food court girls a try. The reports I read regarding the Lisboa racetrack girls seemed to be mostly negative, but the general consensus on the Venetian girls was that they were younger, cuter, and nicer, so I decided to give them a try.

The food court is located on the 2nd or 3rd floor (the escalators are confusing) of the Venetian hotel. I don’t know if it was my luck or what, but I actually noticed more girls NEAR the food court as opposed to actually IN it. They walk together in small clusters of 2-3 girls alongside the fake canal near the food court. A few were actually just sitting on the benches waiting for customers to talk to them. I didn’t want to make the mistake of propositioning a girl who wasn’t working, so I decided to stick with the tried and true method of eye contact. Lock eyes long enough and she’ll come over.

All in all, I saw about 15 girls wandering around. They all seemed pretty young, and were definitely attractive, but weren’t as friendly as sauna girls. Maybe it’s because they’re trying to keep a low profile while operating in plain sight, I don’t know. They’re also of the skinny and flat-chested variety. I prefer at least a C, preferably D or better, but most of them were barely mustering a B, so that was a major disappointment.

The first girl I talked was all about business. No smile, no small talk, just straight up business. She quoted 1500. I dismissed her right away because her attitude was a complete turn off.

The second girl I was interested in avoided me like the plague after we locked eyes. I don’t know what that was all about.

The third girl who came over was quite friendly. She touched me, flirted a bit, and stroked my arm a couple times. She wanted 1400. I countered with 700. And we settled on 1000, which, according to ISG, is on the high side of the going rate, but is still acceptable. Besides, the girl was pretty cute. Her name was Xiao Ling, and she was Chinese, about 168 cm, very thin, small B cups though, but had legs up to her neck, beautiful eyes, and a tantalizing mouth. Looked barely 20, even by Asian standards. Very nice.

I made sure to specify that 1000 was for an entire hour. After everything was agreed upon, she took me to the elevator and we went up to her room. It was a basic suite, nothing fancy. You could kind of tell it was recently used, but the overall cleanliness was acceptable.

We ran through the usual routine of shower, light massage, BBBJ, and the usual positions. No fire and ice or any other special treatments that the sauna girls give. It was just straight up sex. But Xiao Ling was pretty into it and was not in a rush. DFK was good and GFE was moderate. It felt like a one night stand with a chick from a club back home. Worth the 1000. Afterwards, she walked me to the elevator and I went down alone.

Overall, I’d rate the experience as follows: Face = 9, body = 7, service = 8. I was a little harsh on the body rating because I’m really into the big boobs. Maybe I watch too much porn or something, but I always figure that if I’m paying for it, I want something more than what the average girl has to offer. Some people like certain services, I like Barbie doll figures. To each his own.

Compared to saunas, I have to say that I still prefer saunas hands down. But this seems to be an interesting alternative if you don’t mind scoping out girls, haggling, and running the risk of getting a dud. I think in this regard the classic principle applies. Their attitude is a reliable indicator of how they’ll behave in the sack, so don’t pick the really pretty but really bitchy ones, unless you enjoy screwing beautiful dead fish.

Next time in Macau, I’m giving the Lisboa racetrack girls a try. If anyone has any new updates or vital information regarding these girls, please share!

[QUOTE=Seamaster811]The reports I read regarding the Lisboa racetrack girls seemed to be mostly negative, but the general consensus on the Venetian girls was that they were younger, cuter, and nicer, so I decided to give them a try.

All in all, I saw about 15 girls wandering around. They all seemed pretty young, and were definitely attractive, but weren’t as friendly as sauna girls. Maybe it’s because they’re trying to keep a low profile while operating in plain sight, I don’t know. They’re also of the skinny and flat-chested variety. I prefer at least a C, preferably D or better, but most of them were barely mustering a B, so that was a major disappointment.

The first girl I talked was all about business. No smile, no small talk, just straight up business. She quoted 1500. I dismissed her right away because her attitude was a complete turn off.

The second girl I was interested in avoided me like the plague after we locked eyes. I don’t know what that was all about.

The third girl who came over was quite friendly. She touched me, flirted a bit, and stroked my arm a couple times. She wanted 1400. I countered with 700. And we settled on 1000, which, according to ISG, is on the high side of the going rate, but is still acceptable. Besides, the girl was pretty cute. Her name was Xiao Ling, and she was Chinese, about 168 cm, very thin, small B cups though, but had legs up to her neck, beautiful eyes, and a tantalizing mouth. Looked barely 20, even by Asian standards. Very nice.

I made sure to specify that 1000 was for an entire hour. We ran through the usual routine of shower, light massage, BBBJ, and the usual positions. No fire and ice or any other special treatments that the sauna girls give. It was just straight up sex. But Xiao Ling was pretty into it and was not in a rush. DFK was good and GFE was moderate. It felt like a one night stand with a chick from a club back home. Worth the 1000. Afterwards, she walked me to the elevator and I went down alone.

Overall, I’d rate the experience as follows: Face = 9, body = 7, service = 8. I was a little harsh on the body rating because I’m really into the big boobs. Maybe I watch too much porn or something, but I always figure that if I’m paying for it, I want something more than what the average girl has to offer. Some people like certain services, I like Barbie doll figures. To each his own.

Compared to saunas, I have to say that I still prefer saunas hands down. But this seems to be an interesting alternative if you don’t mind scoping out girls, haggling, and running the risk of getting a dud. I think in this regard the classic principle applies. Their attitude is a reliable indicator of how they’ll behave in the sack, so don’t pick the really pretty but really bitchy ones, unless you enjoy screwing beautiful dead fish.

Next time in Macau, I’m giving the Lisboa racetrack girls a try. If anyone has any new updates or vital information regarding these girls, please share![/QUOTE]
Seamaster, that was an informative report on the Venetian food court girls. Next time I am in Macau, I will have to check out that scene. I love Chinese eye candy.

When I was last in Macau in March, I stopped by the Lisboa racetrack every night for 15 to 20 minutes on my way to MGM Grand or MP3 bar. There is something about seeing attractive Chinese working girls dressed up nice wandering around the mall that is intoxicating. But my experiences were similar to others.

1st night, the girls walked past me and gave me no eye contact. After about 10 minutes of watching the girls walk by as I drank some mango juice I purchased at the fruit store, I stopped one and said hi. She got down to business real quick and asked 1400hk. I smiled and said that was too beaucoup. I told her I knew the real price was 800hk. She said yes, but that was for Chinese men only. You no Chinese. I said damn right! I am an American and is not my money just as good as Chinese man's money. She reiterated 1400hk. I smiled, said no thanks it's your loss, and walked away.

2nd night was more of the same. The girls tried their best to ignore me as they passed by while I drank my mango juice. I just acted like I did not give a damn, and I didn't because I was getting all I needed and then some in the saunas and bars. A funny incident occurred while I was there that night. An old Chinese geezer (he must have been around 70) walked into the arcade. 4 or 5 of the hottest girls literally threw themselves at this 3 pack a day leathered old crocodile. I could not believe it. It was one of the most amazing things I saw on the trip!

3rd day I started to get some looks from a couple of girls and one girl even smiled and approached me. She was not the hottest of the bunch, but she was OK. We talked a little, she gave me the lowdown and then she gave me her quote: 1000hk. Now, if she had been one of the really pretty girls I would have given her a try and I still think it might have been interesting, but instead I politely declined her offer.

My take on this is that the Lisboa girls are very reluctant to get it on with Western men. This attitude is definitely based on prejudice and ignorance. But, if you have the time and the patience the ice will melt. Would it be worthwhile to put in the necessary effort in order to get it on with one of superstar fillies? Maybe, but since there are so many really fine Chinese girls just waiting for handsome western man in the saunas; a racetrack girl's attitude would have do a complete 180 before I would spend my hard earned money and go upstairs with one. Just walk into MP3 bar around midnight. That is the attitude I'm talking about!

Next time, I will give the Venetian girls a look see. I like “B” cups and “A” cups, but I am a real sucker for a pretty face. "C" cups are ok too, but "D's" are too much of a good thing unless the girl is very young, IMHO. One thing we can agree upon: the saunas in Macau are #1.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]"D's" are too much of a good thing unless the girl is very young, IMHO.[/QUOTE]Very true. To be honest, despite most men preferring natural breasts, I actually prefer really nice fake ones. It's the only way you can get great tits on a thin girl. It's also the only way D cups and above don't sag once they're over 25 :-P

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]One thing we can agree upon: the saunas in Macau are #1.[/QUOTE]Amen!

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]My take on this is that the Lisboa girls are very reluctant to get it on with Western men. This attitude is definitely based on prejudice and ignorance. But, if you have the time and the patience the ice will melt. Would it be worthwhile to put in the necessary effort in order to get it on with one of superstar fillies? Maybe, but since there are so many really fine Chinese girls just waiting for handsome western man in the saunas; a racetrack girl's attitude would have do a complete 180 before I would spend my hard earned money and go upstairs with one. Just walk into MP3 bar around midnight. That is the attitude I'm talking about! .[/QUOTE]I once asked one of the Lisboa girls as to why they charged different rates for Western men. The answers were 1 Western men are more demanding whereas Asian men or Chinese men can be easily satisfied with a very pretty face and good body alone. 2 Western men's dicks are bigger, so girls get tired easier. 3 It is easier for them to communicate in Chinese.

I thought while still kind of prejudice, that's fair enough because they are there on their free will and they are the bosses and managers of their bodies and services unlike the girls in the sauna.