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Just got back from a few days in K. L.
Stayed at Concorde Hotel. (Very nice!). Only two minutes walk from Beach Club and completely G. F.
No check of girls I. D. At all. Found a nice young Viet playmate (23) at Beach Club. It was her first night in KL and her first overseas trip (I saw her passport.)
VERY eager to please and a reasonable price.
Life is rather good to an 'Old Guy' sometimes!
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1289572]JM seems a big dreamer of traveling here and there, but ending up nowhere. Ho wmany tiems has he annouced a trip, asking questions taht already have an answer and if not, it is also not written anywhere that one has to be baby sit for every step he takes. Just by reading one gather lots of information and forms an opinion. Then better go out and enjoy. Otherwise it ends up in being with a girl in a soapie and at the 10th minute say to her "according to ISG it should be flip times and you shoudl go topless, will you do that to me, the average fee should be 50, I also read you do CIM, so please do it". What is left then? Talking about gilrs being mechanics! Some guys expect to get here a handbook as good as Ford car manual telling you that to unscrew a screw you need a screwdriver before doing the move to unscrew and the you need to turn the screwdriver in the right rotation sense otherwise you screw and not unscrew.
P: I think 11Bravo was a bit hironic with his "instantaneously". .[/QUOTE]I don't feel I have to but I'll give my rebuttal to a few of your interesting comments.
I thought this was a discussion forum? It looks from your comments as if I'm expected to read, not write or ask questions and just get on with it.
As an esteemed and long standing ISG member (since all of 2010) allow me to summarize my posts for the benefit of those reading. 1) I read and posted once in the Brazil forum, but the trip ultimately didn't materialise. 2) The same can be said for the Phillipines and 3) Germany. 4) People's opinions of Prague swayed me not to consider a trip there. I also have posts in the "what's the best country for." forum, for discussion purposes. So all in all, my total contributions are next to nothing, since my experiences in the past 2 years are next to nothing, since the number of vacations I've been able to take have been, yes you guessed it, zero. 11Bravo, thanks for realising that 2 years may not be enough for someone who's new to the experience to rack up much experience at all. On an aside, I'm not sure how old or young many of you are, but it's not easy for me to take vacations to all corners of the globe for mongering. Perhaps some of you are retired and have the time, or perhaps some of you travel for work regularly; but for me, travelling is pricey and time consuming. I am indeed a dreamer, Master Diver II, but in my circumstances my travel plans can't always materialise. 2 years for seasoned veterans such as some of you may give you 75 full reports, but for someone who still is in that grey area between mongering and going for non-pros. 2 years can pass by without anything interesting to report, think back to when you were of a younger age bracket and were introduced to the concept of mongering for the first time. Moral dillema right?
For those of you with sharp eyes, you'll see that my previous was the first post since September 2011, which alludes to the fact that I don't live somewhere where mongering is easy nor tolerated. I'm not suggesting that I won't be active unless I want something, but without much discussion topics, as a noobie, I'm limited to what input I can give people. Experience and time will help.
My only prior experience of mongering was in Thailand, long before I knew ISG existed. Furthermore, my experiences were sporadic due to me being out there for work, my stories were not particularly informative nor interesting. Mater Diver II, how difficult could it be to find a spa in KL? Probably very easy, or maybe not very easy. If you travel somewhere you've never been it's all guesswork. And google searches for finding asian dating sites. I'm sure I won't find any bogus articles, and should spend my money without getting any second opinions from people who may well have already been there and done that.
The fact that I have some knowledge about the beach club / thai bar should illustrate that some research and reading has been done on my part, contrary to what some of you have suggested. What I was expecting (being naive) was someone with more experience than I saying something along the lines of "hey, welcome to the KL forum. Yes BC / TB are good places but over the past 6 months things have slowed down due to police crackdowns in xyz, or, I went there last week and their standards have been slipping, I wouldn't recommend you waste your time going there any more. With regard to MPs, this isn't Thailand where you might have annie's / tulip's, so you have to just look and see what you can find. Non pro's are easy / hard and I've only ever done xyz, but since it's end of term now in June they may hang out in xyz location, good luck with that. Lastly, don't both with dating sites, I've been on DIA and AFF and all the profiles are photoshopped / fake so don't waste your time / money"
The point I'm making with the above, is that things change with time. Prices change and locations change. Yes I can drive around or ask shady looking people whilst I'm there, but a post 6 months ago may not necessarily be relevant in June 2012 due to a number of reasons. I'll still read it and take note of it, but my post was focussed on the scene today and whether anyone could spare any insights. I've read 6 articles saying that asian friend finder is a great website. 5stars etc etc, but all it takes is for someone with experience to say,"don't bother, they're all fake" for it to have saved me time and money. Now I appreciate that not everyone will have the luxury of others' experiences, but I figured a discussion forum like this is the best place for that. Anyone can just turn up to a foreign country and try their luck.
No doubt if I were to come back and say I paid 300MYR to the girl for xyz service that there would be some troll telling me how I'm a retard for paying too much and that I'm the reason his prices have shot up and the girls are behaving like they own the place etc etc. Thus me asking for 2012 prices. I'm sure they have changed since previous posts, all it takes is for a group of travellers to pay way too much for it to impact the regulars and for the girls to drop their service standard and up their prices, such is the nature of the game I guess. My apologies for wanting a ballpark figure so that I don't screw over myself or any of the regulars by overpaying or over-expecting.
Anyway, I had better end this discussion from my side before people take things personally and this escalates far beyond what it is. If I had more experience then I would happily retrospectively share them, but clearly I don't, which would explain my collosal 15posts and my attempt to gather information by reading / asking questions about the current state of play before travelling halfway across the world.
Master Diver II, my apologies for thinking I could post a few questions before writing 50 full reports, as is the expected norm.
Anyway, thanks for the background checks and the warm welcome. I'll let you know nonetheless if I choose to get up to any hanky panky whilst I'm out there in 2 weeks' time.
JM
[QUOTE=Bowling32; 1260734]Bro, glad to see you finally found the place after so long PM you. Yeah, to all people who like to go there, you can go any day except Thursday because of pasar malam.
Bro, you should try the full package 100+50 but must be smart to get them high first or else they will just do as SOP.
Wondering whether Linda, Chyntia, Michelle are still there or not since its been more than 3 months I didn't visit there.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Urumi Kanzaki; 1260633]After hearing many Fr about this place, I manage to find the place. Wrong timing. There was pasar malam. Anyway this was many weeks back and only now I have the time to type this report.
Went up the place and there was only 1 ML available. Was dying for thai ML. But the OKT say need to wait almost 1 hour. Ok la. Go for Indon lo.
Waited in the room, then came this young lady called AYU. She looks very young. Like around 24-25. Been long time since I've savoured young meat. Those were the LS days. Nowadays PRCs are mostly late 20s, local ML are early 30s.
She looks ok. 6/10 for my scale. She is playful and massage was ok. Then time for the good part. She start to strip and I can see her full naked body. WOW! How I missed young body. Perfect body with right curves everywhere.
She started with cat bath and also B2B. I'm not that fond of B2B because most of the time it's quite SOP. But this time it's different. It's more like a GF trying to have sex with me. Talking about good technique. Then she come out with the menu. RM100 is for normal release. If I want better release, need to add RM50.
I remembered that most of the sifu here don't pay extra. Or maybe I remembered wrongly. But I was enjoying her service too much to bother to go for extra. I told her I'll try her normal release first then the extra next time around.
Then she started to catbath my neck while B2B on my chest and HJ on my penis. Occasionally she will come up and give me a kiss, I wanted to DFK her, but she moved away. 3 minutes later I shoot my load. I warned her that I about to cum, she said "just cum". She continued stroking my penis while I cum with her breast giving my penis head a massage. WOW! It's heaven!
Then we went for clean up as I cummed everywhere. So I took another bath. Then came back to the room and she gave me a hug.[/QUOTE]Can you advise where is this place. Wanted to try it out
At times I feel funny about the peoples here. They really hold back information and now demanding someone to write a FR or sign up with the website to have PM. But the whole thing about this forum is about information sharing and also about cost control. Won't want to spoil the market rate. In a way, I just don't feel comfortable using my CC in the internet. If I ever meet anyone in town, I would be glad to buy a round or two. Just try to do what we want here and be happy with life would probably be best for all. If you don't like a particular person, then just ignore him.
FR.
Finally got around to try Patra and Dada combination. I enjoyed them better than Jes and Flo although the later involved toys and cosplay. I just find patra's picture on the website so captivating that I feel I have to try her out. Sure many will agree that her pictures are aewsome. When patra opened the door for me, she looks different in person, . But luckily for me, she has her charm. Perhaps her facial features are too outstanding, something that will look better in picture but to distinctive in person. But essentially, it is the same person. She was in short jean and t-shirt when I arrived. At first glance, really wondering where are her 35D assets.
Dada took over the lead, and help me to undress and shower. Dada looks so different as opposed to her picture. Her make-up is a bit too heavy. While in the shower, she undressed and to my surprise she has a very nice body, smooth to touch and perky breasts. Think they aren't real, but they are nice to look at and soft to touches. During the shower, she cleans me quite thoroughly, something which is always positive in all ways.
As we re-enter the room, Patra has already stripped. Her 35D are there, feel they are real, slightly saggy, SLIGHTLY, LOL. And her nipples are quite big and brownish. She taken a towel and heads for the bathroom while Dada and myself tries to warn ourselves by cuddling together. We chatted for a while and Patra re-emerge from the bathroom and joined us in the bed. Dada started to lick my lower body while Patra works on the upper portion. Dada's BBBJ is nice, slight suction power and lots of tongue motion. I signal Patra to join her and she obliged. Having two blowing you is just too good a feeling to describe.
I asked Patra to lie down and Dada started to DATY her. I quicky sit next to patra and kissed her while directly my bro towards Dada. She alternates between DATY patra and blowing me while I FK-ing patra. I also started to touch Dada's pussy and she became so wet. I can see Patra holding a CD and told her to wait a while. Next, I ask the two girls to 69 each other. I took turn to attack both sides. Trusting your bro over each pussy and into the licking mouth is just so high. While I was attacking dada's pussy and Patra's mouth. I mistakenly entered dada a few times. She mourns so loudly.
Patra capped me and I attacked her pussy while the 69 still on. As previous FR suggested, Patra's pussy is slightly lose but still ok. Dada's started to sit up and begin kissing me. This three way action is just so exciting. After a short while, I want to go back to the other side. Patra helps me to change CD and I immediately trust it into Dada's wet pussy. Now the position is reversed, FJ Dada while kissing Patra and Dada is DATY-ing patra. Perhaps Patra is a lesbian, she is now so high with Dada's DATY that she neglecting kissing me. Noticed that the harder I pumped Dada the higher Patra became. Suddenly Patra grabbed me so hard towards her and somehow makes me feel so high that I unloaded. All three of us lying on the bed for a short while before going into the bathroom to wash up. This time, both ladies inside with me. Asked them to blow me but now my brother not getting up, hmmm.
We make our way back into to room and rest and chat for a while. All this while, Dada stroking my bro. Then she left my side and begin real work. BBBJ, tits fucking. With all the action, of course my brother will be up again. Patra asked to lie down and directed her pussy towards me while caressing her breasts. I immediately attack her pussy. While I am busy with Patra's pussy. Dada shifted to ride me. On noticing this, Patra standed up and turn to start kissing Dada who is now busy riding me and holding the breast. Patra again placed her pussy for me to DATY. Dada must have felt the stiffness of my brother when she said something and Patra moved away. Dada pulled my up into a sitting position, hugged me tightly and begin vigourously riding my brother. At this point, I really feel like coming but trying hard to hold on. Then I felt Dada's movement slightly quickened and her pussy slightly tightened. I immediately held her so tightly and I feel we came together. Man, this is like only the third time I managed to sync with the woman.
What a night!
In the end, I really enjoyed the GFE of these two girls and hope I can try them again before they go back.
[QUOTE=Master Diver II;1289587]My humblest apologies 11Bravo[/QUOTE]No harm, no foul.
[QUOTE=Jason Mak;1289724]I thought this was a discussion forum?[/quote]It is; we're having a discussion with you.
[QUOTE=Jason Mak;1289724]It looks from your comments as if I'm expected to read, not write or ask questions and just get on with it.[/quote]To your credit, it's clear that you've done a lot of reading; believe me, a lot don't, and just fire off questions that have been asked and answered many times (plus side for you).
[QUOTE=Jason Mak;1289724]So all in all, my total contributions are next to nothing, since my experiences in the past 2 years are next to nothing[/quote]On the down side, as you yourself say, you don't have any FR's. Given that nobody's being paid to answer questions, people that simply ask questions and don't 'even the balance' with some give-back via FR's, tend to raise hackles. (Another point of irony, your questions could be answered in much LESS time than it takes to write these replies. But, the tradeoff of being unpaid is no specific requirements on replies.)
[QUOTE=Jason Mak; 1289724]11Bravo, thanks for realising that 2 years may not be enough for someone who's new to the experience to rack up much experience at all[/quote]In reality, it was a backhand; Bionicman had my [b]ironic[/b] comment right.
[QUOTE=Jason Mak;1289724]Perhaps some of you are retired and have the time, or perhaps some of you travel for work regularly; but for me, travelling is pricey and time consuming.[/quote]Life is full of tradeoffs. Up to you how you make them.
[QUOTE=Jason Mak;1289724]Experience and time will help.[/quote]As they do with just about everything in life.
[QUOTE=Jason Mak; 1289724]My only prior experience of mongering was in Thailand, . My stories were not particularly informative nor interesting.
...
Is that things change with time.[/QUOTE]As you say, that's why repetitious or "non-informative" FR's are informative, as they provide the knowledge that things haven't changed.
It was an erroneous assumption on my part that I inferred that previous activity + no FR's + all-question-posts equated to a leecher. No one is REQUIRED to post FR's, but likewise, no one has the right to answers, either. It's just that one engenders the other.
[QUOTE=Jason Mak;1289724]Prices change and locations change. Yes I can drive around or ask shady looking people whilst I'm there, but a post 6 months ago may not necessarily be relevant in June 2012 due to a number of reasons.[/quote]Certainly true, and I make it a point to avoid shady characters. But if a place appears repeatedly, chances are, barring some calamity, it'll still be there. And if there has been a calamity, GOOD chance the venue's demise will be reported here.
[QUOTE=Jason Mak;1289724]all it takes is for a group of travellers to pay way too much for it to impact the regulars and for the girls to drop their service standard and up their prices, such is the nature of the game I guess. My apologies for wanting a ballpark figure so that I don't screw over myself or any of the regulars by overpaying or over-expecting.[/quote]Oh, I think you're giving an instance way too much weight. Yes, conventions do skew prices upwards, but like any free market, they recover. Regulars will survive regardless of visitors' actions.
I use the General Motors' rule for employment:
- if you get 100% of your chosen applicants accepting, then your benefits are too high.
- if you get 10% of your chosen applicants accepting, then your benefits are too low.
My rule is: a good price is what YOU are willing to pay HER for THAT night.
[QUOTE=Jason Mak;1289724]my apologies for thinking I could post a few questions before writing 50 full reports, as is the expected norm.[/quote]No, that's not the norm. Reading, then posting some questions, followed by an FR, is what the ISG is all about, IMHO. It's just when the question part is repeated a number of times, with no FR [i]period[/i] to separate them...
[QUOTE=Jason Mak;1289724]Anyway, thanks for the background checks and the warm welcome.[/QUOTE]You sound a bit bitter. Up to you. Like I say, you take what you get with a free forum. You hope for a response, but no guarantee you will get one OR what it'll be. Kind of like life.
Sounds like you've done your prep work, so I certainly would not over-think it. The whole point it so enjoy her experience. Good luck to you.
[QUOTE=ChristmasBoy; 1289238]Sifu wantutbadly,
Any good and trustworthy delivery available in KL / Selangor area?
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't know any take aways for what you want which is sex. If you want take aways you can call pizza hut, mcdonalds or domino's pizza. No Christmas in June this Year !
Name: Lina.
Port : Escortgirls-kl (L* Hotel)
Age: 20.
Face: 7/10 (Pretty sweet thing)
Body: 7/10, Slim and petite.
Boobs: 7/10, Round and firm, fakes.
CB: 7/10, Not bad.
DFK: Not during Fj just LFK but after warming yup she initiated the kiss after wash up.
HJ: 6/10 Not bad.
BBBJ: 6/10 Not bad also, alot of effort.
FJ: 7/10 Very nice experience. She looks good so extra points. She speaks Mandarin, and its easy to communicate, but don't do it during FJ.
Damage: 180 + tips.
WIR: Yea I will.
GFE: 8/10, Takes a while to warm up, if she likes you can be chatty and that's how it was for me. We talked alot about her life and work
WL: Emi.
Port : Escortgirls-kl (L* Hotel)
Date:6June2012.
Origin: Bangkok Girl.
Age: 22.
Time / duration: 45 min.
Looks: 7/10.
Body: 7/10.
Boobs: Big but a slightly saggy.
Pussy: 8/10.
DFK: yes.
BBBJ: Yes. 8/10. Strong suction.
DATY: Yes.
Moan: Loud.
FJ: 8/10.
Rush: No rush.
GFE: 9/10. Friendly gal.
DAMAGE: RM 180 + tips.
WIR: Maybe.
After some argument with my gf. I sent her go to karaoke with her friends at 2. 15am, I sms Escortgirls-kl. I want try aida but fully booked. Then he said emi and yuri is available and for last call only. So I choose emi. I drive reach in time because owner said gurl want go to sleep. 3am I reach at hotel. Meet her. She very friendly and still shy. Pussy very tight and good exprerience. She have beautifull tatoo at buttock. Enjoyed her till the last min. Tq for Escortgirls-kl for bringing nice cars. I wil come again. For next TY. Hahahaha
[QUOTE=Mycel;1289931]. In a way, I just don't feel comfortable using my CC in the internet. .[/QUOTE]ISG offers a unique option: put the cash in an envelope, follow the instructions and in a few weeks you will be a fully legitimate and paid subscriber of ISG, with all privileges.
[QUOTE=WantitBadly;1289966]I don't know any take aways for what you want which is sex. If you want take aways you can call pizza hut, mcdonalds or domino's pizza. No Christmas in June this Year ![/QUOTE]Haha. If you want delivery, come to KL & keep observe to those wall or highway pillar which painted "ice massage" or etc. They will delivery to you. Haha!
Keep hunting & you'll get one someday. Hehe!
[QUOTE=WantitBadly;1289966]I don't know any take aways for what you want which is sex. If you want take aways you can call pizza hut, mcdonalds or domino's pizza. No Christmas in June this Year ![/QUOTE]Haha. If you want delivery, come to KL & keep observe to those wall or highway pillar which painted "ice massage" or etc. They will delivery to you. Haha!
Keep hunting & you'll get one someday. Hehe! But quality not guarantee lo.
TQ for the advice. Yes. Sex delivery was what I meant.
[QUOTE=WantitBadly;1289966]I don't know any take aways for what you want which is sex. If you want take aways you can call pizza hut, mcdonalds or domino's pizza. No Christmas in June this Year ![/QUOTE]
Thanks bro for the tips. Do PM if you have any NL contacts.
[QUOTE=Bowling32; 1290058]Haha. If you want delivery, come to KL & keep observe to those wall or highway pillar which painted "ice massage" or etc. They will delivery to you. Haha!
Keep hunting & you'll get one someday. Hehe! But quality not guarantee lo.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I'll visit KL in July first time.
Please send me some recommendation for bars or clubs, where I can find some ladies.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Jason Mak; 1289724]I don't feel I have to but I'll give my rebuttal to a few of your interesting comments.
I thought this was a discussion forum? It looks from your comments as if I'm expected to read, not write or ask questions and just get on with it.
As an esteemed and long standing ISG member (since all of 2010) allow me to summarize my posts for the benefit of those reading. 1) I read and posted once in the Brazil forum, but the trip ultimately didn't materialise. 2) The same can be said for the Phillipines and 3) Germany. 4) People's opinions of Prague swayed me not to consider a trip there. I also have posts in the "what's the best country for." forum, for discussion purposes. So all in all, my total contributions are next to nothing, since my experiences in the past 2 years are next to nothing, since the number of vacations I've been able to take have been, yes you guessed it, zero. 11Bravo, thanks for realising that 2 years may not be enough for someone who's new to the experience to rack up much experience at all. On an aside, I'm not sure how old or young many of you are, but it's not easy for me to take vacations to all corners of the globe for mongering. Perhaps some of you are retired and have the time, or perhaps some of you travel for work regularly; but for me, travelling is pricey and time consuming. I am indeed a dreamer, Master Diver II, but in my circumstances my travel plans can't always materialise. 2 years for seasoned veterans such as some of you may give you 75 full reports, but for someone who still is in that grey area between mongering and going for non-pros. 2 years can pass by without anything interesting to report, think back to when you were of a younger age bracket and were introduced to the concept of mongering for the first time. Moral dillema right?
For those of you with sharp eyes, you'll see that my previous was the first post since September 2011, which alludes to the fact that I don't live somewhere where mongering is easy nor tolerated. I'm not suggesting that I won't be active unless I want something, but without much discussion topics, as a noobie, I'm limited to what input I can give people. Experience and time will help.
My only prior experience of mongering was in Thailand, long before I knew ISG existed. Furthermore, my experiences were sporadic due to me being out there for work, my stories were not particularly informative nor interesting. Mater Diver II, how difficult could it be to find a spa in KL? Probably very easy, or maybe not very easy. If you travel somewhere you've never been it's all guesswork. And google searches for finding asian dating sites. I'm sure I won't find any bogus articles, and should spend my money without getting any second opinions from people who may well have already been there and done that.
Anyway, I had better end this discussion from my side before people take things personally and this escalates far beyond what it is. If I had more experience then I would happily retrospectively share them, but clearly I don't, which would explain my collosal 15posts and my attempt to gather information by reading / asking questions about the current state of play before travelling halfway across the world.
Master Diver II, my apologies for thinking I could post a few questions before writing 50 full reports, as is the expected norm.
Anyway, thanks for the background checks and the warm welcome. I'll let you know nonetheless if I choose to get up to any hanky panky whilst I'm out there in 2 weeks' time.
JM[/QUOTE]JM,
I believe 11Bravo has covered most of it. As he said, multiple repeat questions and no real FRs do not create a good impression. If you have been considering mongering destinations for 2 years and have yet to figure one out, you have been doing very little research. If you are considering KL as your first mongering destination (halfway around the world) you are heading in the wrong direction. Try Thailand or Philippines as a first destination. It's much more open, easier and cheaper over there. No one asked you to write 50 FRs first, but it would be good if you actually have FRs and not just queries. As 11Bravo said, we're not paid for this and (in case you didn't know) this hobby is illegal in Malaysia; hence, we don't necessarily pour our hearts out to anyone who hasn't at least established some credibility. My humblest apologies if I have given offence to your kind sensibilities.
MD II