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[QUOTE=Horatio;2262307]If you were in your 50's or 600 and wanted to dress well when you went to the bars, what would you wear? I would want to not look out of place or dressed too fancy. I always wore shorts, no pattern t-shirts and sandals. How would I be more attractive with what I wear? I am already slim and in shape, but have a lot of gray and white hair.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]This work well every time!
[QUOTE=Horatio;2262307]If you were in your 50's or 600 and wanted to dress well when you went to the bars, what would you wear? I would want to not look out of place or dressed too fancy. I always wore shorts, no pattern t-shirts and sandals. How would I be more attractive with what I wear? I am already slim and in shape, but have a lot of gray and white hair.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Start by replacing t-shirt by shirt. T-shirts are hell to take off when you sweat anyway.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2262307]If you were in your 50's or 600 and wanted to dress well when you went to the bars, what would you wear? I would want to not look out of place or dressed too fancy. I always wore shorts, no pattern t-shirts and sandals. How would I be more attractive with what I wear? I am already slim and in shape, but have a lot of gray and white hair.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The first thing might be to color your hair. I know, I know, you think it is crazy, but I look years younger when I do it. The downside, as I am sure you were thinking, is that once you start coloring you have to keep it up, but I have found that the color starts to fade with time so the colored part will soon fade and blend in with your gray.
I do believe that many of the younger girls, in particular, do discriminate a bit against older guys. By having darker hair and being relatively slender you will look younger. IMHO, this will do more to enhance your appearance and desirability than by changing your clothing style. Of course, there may be some limits here, but a change from cargo shorts to slacks probably won't make much of a difference, though you might get better luck if you dress up in a suit compared to wearing tattered cargo shorts. Even so, the girls are most interested in what you have in your wallet that will end up in theirs than how you look or dress. Be aware that if you dress too fancy they may think you are rich and will try to get more money out of you. Still, the girls know they will be taking your money home, not your looks.
And treating them nice is big. If you are rude, stink, blow smoke in their faces, or give the appearance of a disrespectful slob, it is only logical that a girl might pass you up to go with a dude who treats you with respect and who themselves appears to respect their own body. I have had girls readily accept long term with me even though they believe they could make more by doing ST, simply because they knew they would be safe and happy with me. Some here may say all they care about is money, but that is often not so true. They obviously want to maximize their income, but as long as they meet their income goals, they want to be with handsome men and with those who make them feel good.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2262307]If you were in your 50's or 60s and wanted to dress well when you went to the bars, what would you wear? I would want to not look out of place or dressed too fancy. I always wore shorts, no pattern t-shirts and sandals. How would I be more attractive with what I wear? I am already slim and in shape, but have a lot of gray and white hair.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Status is sexy to Thai girls. More than you being fit and not fat, which is also more important to Thai girls than they openly let on. Nice shorts, t-shirts and sandals are ok. But, imo, men of a certain maturity, let's say appearing over 45 or so, are better served by wearing long pants and real shoes, thin and very casual pants and sneakers ok, on an evening out on the hunt in Bangkok.
In the mind of a Thai girl, the guy wearing long pants and real shoes is the manager, supervisor, owner, teacher, doctor and so on. The guy wearing shorts and sandals is his underling. And older men wearing too casual or sloppy beach wear going in and out of go-go bars, restaurants and nightclubs in one of the biggest, most international cities on the planet just looks, well, unknowing and disrespectful. I think Thais see it that way too.
Of course, I don't mean to suffer during Hot Season. Any time it is really hot at night, if you're going to start sweating like a pig within minutes of stepping outside because you are wearing long pants and real shoes, do the logical thing and wear shorts and sandals.
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Of course, I don't mean to suffer during Hot Season. Any time it is really hot at night, if you're going to start sweating like a pig within minutes of stepping outside because you are wearing long pants and real shoes, do the logical thing and wear shorts and sandals.[/QUOTE]Agree. Good if shirt can have a collar and short sleeves. No sweat shirts or singlets. In other words cover up the armpits which may stink to the Thai nose. As you said, Shorts not really the best idea, maybe okay In Pattaya, however I note that Singapore guys usually wear shorts but are fairly well dressed.
If it is too hot, don't get hot before entering. Go in aircon taxi. Bars have aircon.
I think it is criticial to be clean and not too sweaty. So Shower and fresh clothes (shirt, underwear, etc.) first. Smelly socks or shoes could be bad. I doubt I am ever attending a bar in very hot sweaty situation.
Less critical in an Oily MP or Soapy since you are going to be bathed / showered first.
I agree with you guys. Appearance and personal hygiene matter to the girls and can affect your hunting success rate. In humid climates like Thailand an evening shower and fresh clothes can make the difference. Many sportswear manufacturers now offer "performance" clothing that wick away sweat and perspiration better than cotton. I like the feel of cotton, but these performance shirts really work (stay dry) even after a round of golf in hot humid south Florida. Bobby Jones, for example, offers many different styles & colors of their performance polos that are perfect for a night out clubbing and dancing in BKK. I only buy sale priced items and usually do not spend more than $39/ shirt. Nike et al offer similar "performance" wear.
Look good. Smell good. Stay dry. Then net the girl you want and net her in the right frame of mind.
Agree with just about everything said about dress. I don't ever wear shorts in BKK, day or night. Collared or t-shirt is not a big issue; as long as you are not wearing some tattered looking shirt that is two sizes to big for you. Nice cotton Ts are great. Uniqlo here stocks some very nice supima cotton ones for 290 Baht. A nice black t is great. Also avoid "dad jeans. " Days of baggy pre-faded jeans are over. Go out and get a pair of good selvedge denim. And yes, don't wear sandals. I'd also add don't wear your athletic shoes either. Nice pair of leather shoes or some Red Wing boots.
If you think that being fat does not matter; you are wrong. Gals like dudes that are in shape. It gets harder as we get into our 50's and 60's, but get your butt to the gym, stay trim, and eat well. It'll also increase your performance and drive. It takes effort, but no one wants to scr#w a big fat guy. Do you want to scr#w a big fat gal?
Hair color; I agree 100%. Ever notice older Asian guys with gray hair? Not very many. Why? They all color their hair. If you don't have enough to color then shave it all off.
Looking "presentable" is always good. A gal I met at her MP shop, where I always rolled up in cycling or running gear (because I can shower at the shop) visited me one night at my hotel. I was dressed from work. Slacks, collared shir. And she said "oh handsome! I think she genuinely responded to the more executive me compared with the casualoutdoors me.
Clean, respectable and more or less put together always helps.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2262331]Status is sexy to Thai girls. More than you being fit and not fat, which is also more important to Thai girls than they openly let on. Nice shorts, t-shirts and sandals are ok. But, imo, men of a certain maturity, let's say appearing over 45 or so, are better served by wearing long pants and real shoes, thin and very casual pants and sneakers ok, on an evening out on the hunt in Bangkok.
In the mind of a Thai girl, the guy wearing long pants and real shoes is the manager, supervisor, owner, teacher, doctor and so on. The guy wearing shorts and sandals is his underling. And older men wearing too casual or sloppy beach wear going in and out of go-go bars, restaurants and nightclubs in one of the biggest, most international cities on the planet just looks, well, unknowing and disrespectful. I think Thais see it that way too.
Of course, I don't mean to suffer during Hot Season. Any time it is really hot at night, if you're going to start sweating like a pig within minutes of stepping outside because you are wearing long pants and real shoes, do the logical thing and wear shorts and sandals.[/QUOTE]
A nylon golf shirt and nylon hiking pants will be cooler at night than cotton. Weighs less, packs better, doesn't wrinkle, easy to wash in the sink and dry overnight. Some hiking pants include concealed / zippered pockets for passport, extra cash, etc. Black helps conceal a few extra pounds. Black can help you lose a whole lot of weight by getting hit from behind by a taxi, so take care.
[QUOTE=Chacal60;2262768]Looking "presentable" is always good. A gal I met at her MP shop, where I always rolled up in cycling or running gear (because I can shower at the shop) visited me one night at my hotel. I was dressed from work. Slacks, collared shir. And she said "oh handsome! I think she genuinely responded to the more executive me compared with the casualoutdoors me.
Clean, respectable and more or less put together always helps.[/QUOTE]Yes, that happens a lot. Girls see me in my 650 baht pants from AIIZ instead of my 350 baht shorts and suddenly I am "oh, so handsome!" LOL. So it is merely an image that appeals more to them and not a matter of my looking like a big spender. If I toss on a long sleeve (rolled up my arm) shirt instead of a t-shirt on a Friday or Saturday night I magically turn into "a Super Star". They aren't making fun of me. LOL. It just matters how you dress. And I don't mean you will make an even better impression if you wear a business suit into a go-go bar. That would be going too far imo.
I think on warm nights wearing good quality sandals with long pants is fine. Not cheap flip flops. In fact, many Thai girls have said they really like that look on a man. It seems to convey a nice combination of a relaxed, easy going nature while also being mindful and respectful of where you are and what is appropriate for your status in terms of age, ethinicity and position.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003;2262973]A nylon golf shirt and nylon hiking pants will be cooler at night than cotton. Weighs less, packs better, doesn't wrinkle, easy to wash in the sink and dry overnight. Some hiking pants include concealed / zippered pockets for passport, extra cash, etc. Black helps conceal a few extra pounds. Black can help you lose a whole lot of weight by getting hit from behind by a taxi, so take care.[/QUOTE]I highly recommend the Columbia Line of fishing shirts and convertible pants. Lightweight, wash well, quick drying, plenty of pockets, zip off legs on the pants and look casual class-eh, wot wot old boy. I buy the long sleeve shirts. I brought 4 pair of pants and 5 shirts with me, total cost was about $200 US and you can roll them up into stuff sacks which for me is vital since I am staying 6-7 months here with just a carry on (36 liter pack).
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2262759] A nice black t is great. [/QUOTE]It can be great but it's also very hot in the sun because it does not reflect the heat. Therefore I'm always wearing light colored shirts in the daytime.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2262759] Nice cotton Ts are great. A nice black t is great. Go out and get a pair of good selvedge denim. Nice pair of leather shoes or some Red Wing boots.[/QUOTE]Is it coincidence that this is the same attire chosen by the gay Thai gigolos?
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2263347]Is it coincidence that this is the same attire chosen by the gay Thai gigolos?[/QUOTE]I really doubt gay Thai gigolos are wearing good Japanese selvedge denim. Seems those light in the loafers in Thailand prefer those tight peg-legged jeans. And Red Wings? Doubt that as well.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003;2262973]A nylon golf shirt and nylon hiking pants will be cooler at night than cotton. Weighs less, packs better, doesn't wrinkle, easy to wash in the sink and dry overnight. Some hiking pants include concealed / zippered pockets for passport, extra cash, etc. Black helps conceal a few extra pounds. Black can help you lose a whole lot of weight by getting hit from behind by a taxi, so take care.[/QUOTE]Pegs you as a tourist right off the bat.