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[QUOTE=Horatio;2262307]If you were in your 50's or 60s and wanted to dress well when you went to the bars, what would you wear? I would want to not look out of place or dressed too fancy. I always wore shorts, no pattern t-shirts and sandals. How would I be more attractive with what I wear? I am already slim and in shape, but have a lot of gray and white hair.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]A few points as lots of other people have chipped in here:
1 - Don't worry about looking out of place, you are on holiday and looking to have some fun so don't spend any time worrying about what other people think of you. If you try to 'fit in' or look a certain way then that is what you will look like - someone who is trying to 'fit in'. There are Western people in Thailand from Oz, Europe and the US and each place has their own style of clothing that they wear so you aren't going to look out of place regardless of what you wear.
2 - Hygene is the main thing to worry about when going to the bars. Thailand is a hot country and unless you come from somewhere with a similar climate you will get very hot and sweaty very easily. Make sure you have a shower before you go to the bars at night and take a taxi or MRT / SRT to the bars if your hotel is far away as these are all air conditioned. There are lots of people who don't pay attention to hygene and you can tell they have been out most of the day and haven't showered since earlier that morning so purely by putting a bit of effort in you will increase your chances of a girl liking you. The last thing any girl wants is a sweaty man lying on top of her.
3 - For clothes linen is the best thing to have. I went to Thailand for the first time a couple of months ago and was unsure of what to wear as I was doing some sightseeing as well as mongering and came across the following website - [URL]https://www.kohsamuisunset.com/what-to-wear-in-thailand/[/URL] It has some great information and I ended up getting 6 cheap linen shirts and a couple of pairs of linen pants and didn't wear anything else. I would use one shirt during the day when sightseeing and another at night for going to the bars and then wash them. I was probably the only tourist in BKK wearing a shirt during the day but it kept me cool and it covered my arms so I had protection against the sun and mosquitoes.
4 - Be nice to the girls. You would be surprised how many assholes there are around that think women who work in these bars are just hookers and somehow sub-human so can be treated like shit. Take a bit of extra time with the girl and if necessary buy her an extra lady drink. This will put you in a good position with the girl as well as the mamasan and will give you a chance to talk a bit more with the girl and get better service.
5 - Most importantly of all - enjoy yourself. BKK can be a bit overwhelming and can take time to get used to. When I was researching Thailand I read that a lot of holiday makers (not mongerers) would just fly into BKK and then fly straight out to another city or island and when I first arrived I could understand this. It is very busy, very hot, very loud and can also be very humid depending on when you go. Just take it easy and don't try and rush to cross everything off your wish-list in one go. If you like the place you can always return in the future.
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[QUOTE=Warsteiner;2263500]4 - Be nice to the girls. You would be surprised how many assholes there are around that think women who work in these bars are just hookers.[/QUOTE]Indeed. Some do think they are hookers.
Keep most of your money locked up and be careful where you flash bigger notes. Some places frown on scruffy clothes. I like to dress blend in. Getting a jeepney in Angeles, we passed this 60+ Ossie I knew. He was wearing only shorts, no top and showing his fine physique (for his age). Everyone on the jeepney laughed at him. The better you dress, the more the hired help will want. But don't ever think it as they are just hookers when all is said and done.
How you dress is also a function of how much you want to party: to hook up early or go drinking all night.
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Clothing
[QUOTE=Warsteiner;2263500]A few points as lots of other people have chipped in here:
3 - For clothes linen is the best thing to have.[/QUOTE]I find linen to be too heavy for a warm, humid climate. Moisture wicking polos, t-shirts, and shorts really help keep you dry. Adidas and Reebok do a great job with their moisture wicking products. I wear long pants at night.
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[QUOTE=Allover;2263618]I find linen to be too heavy for a warm, humid climate. Moisture wicking polos, t-shirts, and shorts really help keep you dry. Adidas and Reebok do a great job with their moisture wicking products. I wear long pants at night.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Linen is great when the sun has gone down and you're beachside with a breeze.
Uniqlo also has a good line of moisture wicking clothing, and finally sizes that fit tall (but fit) farang.
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[QUOTE=Warsteiner;2263500]A few points as lots of other people have chipped in here:
1 - Don't worry about looking out of place, you are on holiday and looking to have some fun so don't spend any time worrying about what other people think of you. If you try to 'fit in' or look a certain way then that is what you will look like - someone who is trying to 'fit in'. There are Western people in Thailand from Oz, Europe and the US and each place has their own style of clothing that they wear so you aren't going to look out of place regardless of what you wear.
2 - Hygene is the main thing to worry about when going to the bars. Thailand is a hot country and unless you come from somewhere with a similar climate you will get very hot and sweaty very easily. Make sure you have a shower before you go to the bars at night and take a taxi or MRT / SRT to the bars if your hotel is far away as these are all air conditioned. There are lots of people who don't pay attention to hygene and you can tell they have been out most of the day and haven't showered since earlier that morning so purely by putting a bit of effort in you will increase your chances of a girl liking you. The last thing any girl wants is a sweaty man lying on top of her.
3 - For clothes linen is the best thing to have. I went to Thailand for the first time a couple of months ago and was unsure of what to wear as I was doing some sightseeing as well as mongering and came across the following website - [URL]https://www.kohsamuisunset.com/what-to-wear-in-thailand/[/URL] It has some great information and I ended up getting 6 cheap linen shirts and a couple of pairs of linen pants and didn't wear anything else. I would use one shirt during the day when sightseeing and another at night for going to the bars and then wash them. I was probably the only tourist in BKK wearing a shirt during the day but it kept me cool and it covered my arms so I had protection against the sun and mosquitoes.
4 - Be nice to the girls. You would be surprised how many assholes there are around that think women who work in these bars are just hookers and somehow sub-human so can be treated like shit. Take a bit of extra time with the girl and if necessary buy her an extra lady drink. This will put you in a good position with the girl as well as the mamasan and will give you a chance to talk a bit more with the girl and get better service.
5 - Most importantly of all - enjoy yourself. BKK can be a bit overwhelming and can take time to get used to. When I was researching Thailand I read that a lot of holiday makers (not mongerers) would just fly into BKK and then fly straight out to another city or island and when I first arrived I could understand this. It is very busy, very hot, very loud and can also be very humid depending on when you go. Just take it easy and don't try and rush to cross everything off your wish-list in one go. If you like the place you can always return in the future.[/QUOTE]Complete bullshit. Err I mean a pointless topic. Find yourself some nice looking swim shorts with good pockets that seal up with a zipper or velcro. Swim shorts are meant to dry out quickly. Also cut out those mesh inner shorts to let your boys dangle, how else are the girls going to give you a HJ while they are lapdancing on your dick for their $4 drink? As to shirts, buy those god awful looking bright orange short sleeve button up shirts with photo's of the beers of the world all over the shirt. As to the guys who need to wear pants in the tropics. Sad, so sad.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2263922]Complete bullshit. Err I mean a pointless topic. Find yourself some nice looking swim shorts with good pockets that seal up with a zipper or velcro. Swim shorts are meant to dry out quickly. Also cut out those mesh inner shorts to let your boys dangle, how else are the girls going to give you a HJ while they are lapdancing on your dick for their $4 drink? As to shirts, buy those god awful looking bright orange short sleeve button up shirts with photo's of the beers of the world all over the shirt. As to the guys who need to wear pants in the tropics. Sad, so sad.[/QUOTE]LOL. Funny image. But we have all seen older dudes walking around Bangkok in that kind of garb, in and out of bars and restaurants. Usually walking out alone. Many nights you can see some walking out of Thermae alone, too, shaking their heads and muttering something like, "This place sucks! The girls only want Japanese customers!"
And rejection based on your goofy presentation is not confined to Thermae, of course. I've even seen some of the better looking girls standing in front of the Nana Hotel parking lot turn away feigning distraction when one of those older guys dressed like a 9 year old at Summer Camp approaches them. Meanwhile, those same girls can be seen staring and smiling invitingly at men of the same general age wearing, you guessed it, long pants. Just like practically all of the better educated, higher status Thai men those girls grew up admiring wear on most nights out in the tropics of Bangkok.
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[QUOTE=Warsteiner;2263500]
1 - Don't worry about looking out of place, you are on holiday and looking to have some fun so don't spend any time worrying about what other people think of you. If you try to 'fit in' or look a certain way then that is what you will look like - someone who is trying to 'fit in'. There are Western people in Thailand from Oz, Europe and the US and each place has their own style of clothing that they wear so you aren't going to look out of place regardless of what you wear.
[/QUOTE]Misguided comment. Guys really should make an effort to fit in and respect the local customs and ways, to avoid being considered foreign trash. "In Rome, do as the Romans do".
If you dress very low class, it won't help Thai girls' opinions of you.
If you don't dress properly, some venues will refuse you entry. I got refused entry to certain places for wearing sandals on occasion. It maybe that I considered shoes and socks impractical (too sticky) but did not change the thinking of others. In Pattaya, probably anything goes, but not so much Bangkok.
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Tourist Numbers
The tourist figures for Thailand are out and there's no surprise. The biggest growth is from China and India who's huge middle class is cashed up, looking to travel and hunt for foreign pussy. India is currently at number 5, with it being predicted to jump to number 2 in the next couple of years, surpassing the Koreans. I hope the bar owners and bar girls can adapt to this as this is where their revenue is going to come from in the future. Couldn't happen to a nicer group of people!!
[URL]https://www.tatnews.org/2018/08/thailand-visitor-arrivals-in-jan-jul-2018-up-11-to-22-6-million/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2264469]Misguided comment. Guys really should make an effort to fit in and respect the local customs and ways, to avoid being considered foreign trash. "In Rome, do as the Romans do".
If you dress very low class, it won't help Thai girls' opinions of you.
If you don't dress properly, some venues will refuse you entry. I got refused entry to certain places for wearing sandals on occasion. It maybe that I considered shoes and socks impractical (too sticky) but did not change the thinking of others. In Pattaya, probably anything goes, but not so much Bangkok.[/QUOTE]I'm not against wearing pants while in Thailand, I always bring along some black cotton chef pants. They are smooth like dress pants but still allow the girl to get her hand down my pants. I'll wear a nice looking short sleeve dress shirt soas her hand can't be seen down my pants by those nearby. See, I'm classy thinking of the ladies feelings and such. I do like my fuzzy bunny slippers, really makes the girls laugh while I'm fingering them. And I have to think guys who come across as 'snooty' on a review board come across as 'snooty' in spades in front of the ladies they are trying to impress. You might not get laughed at for wearing shorts but for sure the girls will be talking about 'that prick' in those pants sitting by himself.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2265494]I'm not against wearing pants while in Thailand, I always bring along some black cotton chef pants. They are smooth like dress pants but still allow the girl to get her hand down my pants. I'll wear a nice looking short sleeve dress shirt soas her hand can't be seen down my pants by those nearby. See, I'm classy thinking of the ladies feelings and such. I do like my fuzzy bunny slippers, really makes the girls laugh while I'm fingering them. And I have to think guys who come across as 'snooty' on a review board come across as 'snooty' in spades in front of the ladies they are trying to impress. You might not get laughed at for wearing shorts but for sure the girls will be talking about 'that prick' in those pants sitting by himself.[/QUOTE]I too have been watching this thread and firstly I have been waiting for it to run out of oxygen. I have been traveling to SEA for almost 20 years now and I don't get why westerners would want to overdress and get over heated. I have probably worn trousers on 10 occasions. You can dress neatly in shorts and button up shirts which allows the girls access to your genitals in a comfortable manner. I believe attitude is more important then appearance.
I have worn trousers once in a Pattaya gogo bar and left with the same quality girl but a quarter of the fun as she could only massage me on the outside of my pants.
My opinion for what's it worth.
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[QUOTE=RobJones;2265641]I too have been watching this thread and firstly I have been waiting for it to run out of oxygen. I have been traveling to SEA for almost 20 years now and I don't get why westerners would want to overdress and get over heated. I have probably worn trousers on 10 occasions. You can dress neatly in shorts and button up shirts which allows the girls access to your genitals in a comfortable manner. I believe attitude is more important then appearance.
I have worn trousers once in a Pattaya gogo bar and left with the same quality girl but a quarter of the fun as she could only massage me on the outside of my pants.
My opinion for what's it worth.[/QUOTE]Well, I am sure if the original question had been something like, "What kind of clothes should I wear so some girls in a handful (pun intended) of Thailand go-go bars can and will reach in and grab my dick?", our replies would have been very different. I would have replied with something like wide, very loose and sloppy shorts cut high above your knees, button or Velcro fly instead of zipper and don't bother wearing underwear.
However, since the original questions regarding clothing were, "If you were in your 50's or (60's) and wanted to dress well when you went to the bars, what would you wear? I would (not) want to not look out of place or dressed too fancy. I always wore shorts, no pattern t-shirts and sandals. How would I be more attractive with what I wear?", our replies were tailored (again, pun intended) to fit THOSE questions instead.
Bear in mind that too that, unlike most casual beach resort areas like Pattaya, Bangkok, being the great big adult world-class international city that it is, has several discos, clubs, bars, bistros and restaurants where you can still monger for hookers but where there is a dress and shoes code. You are not allowed to just ride up on your skateboard in a swim suit and flip flops, a slingshot stuffed in your hip pocket and one of those twirly fan caps on your head and enter as is. So, if a man in his 50's or 60's who is not finding what he wants in a go-go bar on a given night decides on a whim to check out those kinds of places, he needs to be dressed for it as well as not overdressed for the go-go bar scene. That will almost invariably call for long pants, real shoes and often a collared shirt. Snooty attitude optional and not recommended.
Add to which we are replying to an array of different ethnic, cultural types and hometown mongering acceptance levels in these threads, not just the guy who is already wearing clean, higher quality shorts, button and collared shirts and decent shoes. We have to give as general a response as we can based on our general observations of what can and is being worn by a lot of guys around town in both extremes.
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[QUOTE=RobJones;2265641]
I have worn trousers once in a Pattaya gogo bar and left with the same quality girl but a quarter of the fun as she could only massage me on the outside of my pants.
[/QUOTE]Pattaya and Bangkok. Two different things I suspect. Not everyone is dressing specifically to have girls playing directly with their dick. Mostly I do regular girls, and we are going to go of and fuck. My dick does not really need a warm up in the bar. Even watching raunchy naked girls does not give me hard on any more, perhaps a lesbian show can. However if was thinking a lot about my dick before going to the bar, I might well wear thin material pants, with no underwear, as a means to show off a hard on underneath. However I don't need to impress my regular girls with how far down the leg the hard-on goes. They know my dick intimately already. Might be useful method to scare off the dick scared girls though. Ha ha. I never thought of that before. These days I tend to ask girls what sort of dick they like.
Some time I will survey some bargirls and see what they think, about guys in the bar so called "over" dressed, or those dressed rather too low class, and where the happy medium is. Really what the girls think might be more important than what we arrogantly think is best.
Bangkok gogo bars are not hot. Aircon. Can go there is aircon taxi. The getting overly hot argument seems to apply to open air bars.
On this topic I thought ETs comments were generally quite sensible. Dress differently for different occasion, different class of girls. However never dress like the lowest class drunken bozos (I can't think what is a suitable universal slang).
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2265941]Bangkok gogo bars are not hot. Aircon. Can go there is aircon taxi. The getting overly hot argument seems to apply to open air bars.
On this topic I thought ETs comments were generally quite sensible. Dress differently for different occasion, different class of girls. However never dress like the lowest class drunken bozos (I can't think what is a suitable universal slang).[/QUOTE]I usually wear a polo shirt or golf shirt, jeans and timberland shoes. I'm not too worried abot the heat, but I really feel the cold. If I think I'm going to be in an airconditioned bar for several hours I will wear a long sleeve shirt.
As for girls playing with my dick, well I usually drink at afterschool and they are happy to just take it out of your pants anyway. I'm usually in BKK for a visa run or in transit, so only a couple of days. I don't like to pack heavy.
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I see so many old Farang with their shirts folded so they show off half their belly, wearing shirts that they bought 10 years ago when they were 20 kg lighter and now they fit like Saran Wrap, see guys with clothes so outdated that even my Dad wouldn't wear them, seen guys with cheap 200 baht sandals, seen wife beater tank tops, seen shirts with food or blood stains on them, seen guys with short shorts on that look just a tad larger than a Speedo, etc. I always try to guess which ISG member it is when I see these guys.
Guys can say all they want about clothing but I RARELY see a guy who is dressed like he doesn't care with a TOP girl. Of course if you look like a GQ model which I highly doubt any of us do, you can dress any way you like.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2266390] I always try to guess which ISG member it is when I see these guys.
Guys can say all they want about clothing but I RARELY see a guy who is dressed like he doesn't care with a TOP girl. Of course if you look like a GQ model which I highly doubt any of us do, you can dress any way you like.[/QUOTE]Ha ha! Right on mate. Could be my sandals did not cost much more than 200 Baht even the leather ones. Maybe up to 500. Ha ha. I hate to wear sneakers (sports shoes) and socks, and reluctant to put on my black business shoes too.
Maybe I have to up the standard of my dress, to succeed in Thermae, even my shirt has a collar, and belly not showing. For the girls to succeed for me, in Thermae I would like them to undress a bit, or at least not dress so conservatively. Very hard to guess which Thermae girl will be great on the bed, and recent years did not meet any that were great on the bed, and non restrictive. Failed to get a stunning body girl as well. Some were okay.
The best girls probably did not want me. My dress could be a factor, rather casual. I think some girls even got put off that I could speak Thai fluently. Probably assumed to be a hard asshole, rather than a nice guy.
I don't know why, but I seem to do much better with almost perfect body (to my spec) girls in the gogos. Possibly these are girls looking for Farangs mostly.