General Reports

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;1709311]I can't speak to the rest, but the very first picture of "August" I recognize has been used before for a girl in a Bangkok Massage shop, 10 years ago. Unless she recently moved to Hong Kong and travelled back in time 10 years, I would assume the other pictures are suspect.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reply. Many girls seem to be from thailand actually but I don't know. Had a strange feeling about it. If this was really a genuine escort I'm sure there would be more talk about it here on ISG.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1705404]I think the original poster was using "troll" as a verb, meaning to fish using a baited line, in which case the usage is not at all pejorative and refers only to trolling for companions.

GE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1705335]I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.

[B]Troll[/B]
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
[SUP][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll[/url][/SUP]

Perhaps "trawl" was the word intended to be used. Some (many?) readers would not pick this up, and thus the esteemed [I]JacktheLad2[/I] could hereafter be labelled a "troll" in the minds of those readers.

Or perhaps the writer deliberately labelled our [I]Lad[/I] as a "troll"? But who knows, unless the question is raised!

Other common potentially misleading errors include:
Using the word "inciteful" when "insightful" was the intended meaning.
Failing to distinguish between HKD and USD (or other $) - might be obvious to HK residents and frequent visitors, but . . .

Ikksman[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boarer;1709053]Yikes! There be a troll (or [B]Troll[/B]) in this here forum with a big pole sticking out of its eye (maybe arse) and a foot in its mouth (or both feet)!

To paraphrase something else written a couple millennia ago, we are fishermen. IMHO, JTL might have better luck with a handsum wallet as a lure. Good for catching ladies and sailfish. Though, for the latter, the captain usually takes a much bigger bite than many ladies.

Many ladies will ask you to buy them a dildo later, in private.

(HKD, HK$ or the official currency of the HKSAR) 15.

Remember, Google and RTFF are your friends.

Now, back to our regular programming... Where did Lancelot leave off....[/QUOTE]Sorry. It should be SirLancelot.

It seems like some of the best-looking girls are in the 141 buildings, but the rooms don't sound very nice. Is it possible to visit a 141 building, then take the girl back to your hotel? If so, how much would it cost for two hours?

The Wanchai bars sound interesting, but one thing I did not understand is why the girls are always asking you right away to buy them a drink. Do they get part of the proceeds from the drink price? Are there bars where the girls don't work there, but just come in to socialize? If the girls don't get any revenue, why are they pushing so hard for you to buy them a drink? I would like to go to a Wanchai bar where I could just meet the girl, then take her back to my hotel room. Where are the best places to meet free-lancers who will come back to my hotel? What would be the price for this?

Thank you for providing me with this information.

Canyon.

In addition to the questions below, I had a couple of other questions. Where is the best place to meet the Filipina domestic helpers? Also, are there any members who would be willing to introduce me to an attractive young woman who gives great service. I am very generous and I treat the ladies very nicely. PM me if you know anyone. I will be in Hong Kong in late July.

Canyon.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1709881]
Do they get part of the proceeds from the drink price? Are there bars where the girls don't work there, but just come in to socialize? If the girls don't get any revenue, why are they pushing so hard for you to buy them a drink? I would like to go to a Wanchai bar where I could just meet the girl, then take her back to my hotel room. Where are the best places to meet free-lancers who will come back to my hotel? What would be the price for this?

Thank you for providing me with this information.

Canyon.[/QUOTE]The quick answer is Yes they do get a part of the proceeds, and some make a nice evening without leaving the bar with drink proceeds. It also means that if they can get you to buy them a drink, they haven't completely wasted their time if you decide to keep looking.

All of the girls in the Wan Chai bars are FL's, they just get a commission when you buy them a drink in certain bars, and the cost of those drinks can add up in a hurry, so choose wisely. I will usually buy a drink of a lady I am seriously considering, if for no other reason than I at least get a vibe either way on occasion. I rarely buy drinks for a girl if I am not at least considering her as take out. The cost varies from lady to lady, but I would say you can expect to pay 1000 to 2000 HKD for a lady for ST, maybe overnight if your lucky. A few get girls much less than this, but if the haggling gets to much I lose interest. One good idea to make SURE she knows what she is expected to do, or that you know what she won't. Do not leave to chance if it is something important to you. Some may try to wiggle out on promises, but if that happens I wiggle out on the full amount of payment, unless we agree otherwise. Most of the ladies are just trying to make a money and if you treat them with respect you will get the same in return. At least that is my experience. Enjoy.

Sky.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1709881]It seems like some of the best-looking girls are in the 141 buildings, but the rooms don't sound very nice. Is it possible to visit a 141 building, then take the girl back to your hotel? If so, how much would it cost for two hours[/QUOTE]It is possible, but only if the girl likes you. But normally you need to have a session with her in her place first. Get to know each other. Then you can ask if she can visit your hotel. If they want to charge you for such a appointment the price would be much higher than if you meet them in their place. Sometimes if you are lucky, handsome and charming man, they won't charge you if they really like you.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Canyon;1709881]It seems like some of the best-looking girls are in the 141 buildings

Canyon[/QUOTE]All,

I have met 141's Honey Girls before and on many occasions, spending hours choosing on-line (that's also fun) and generally with good results. Girls may not be exactly as they look on the website but they are usually the same person and, in any case, are slim and pretty; also their service is usually good (they moan & move like they enjoy it), which is for me kinda astonishing considering that almost all of them are on ST visas to HK and certainly do not need repeat business, but hey I won't complain.

I've recently read a lot of reviews about 141 buildings (Thanks [B]SirLancelot[/B], [B]Aiii2[/B]! Girls there are considerably less expensive (500 HKD being the standard for a "premium" girl).

As I don't mind having two pops for the price of one I'd like to try them out and, despite my question here, I'll probably give it a go (and report back).

But for the sake of preparation, I have a question for those who tried both already.

Are 141 walkup ladies as pretty / young / slim as the "honey girls"? Or is the premium paid for HG just for the convenience of choosing in the comfort of your home, having a prearranged meeting and possibly meeting the lady in a somewhat nice hotel room? I suppose not many guys like to spend time knocking at tens of doors, checking girls face to face until you find the one (I don; t mind if I have the time).

Also, I have not tried a LT with a honey girl. Is the price 3 x the ST (I. E. 2,400-2,700 HKD)?

Thanks all and wish me happy mongering in HK.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1709881]The Wanchai bars sound interesting, but one thing I did not understand is why the girls are always asking you right away to buy them a drink. Do they get part of the proceeds from the drink price? Canyon.[/QUOTE]I agree with what Sky Rider says.

I know of some girls that can make anything up to $800 - $1000 a night just on ladies drinks. Neptune 111 is the worst with the most "pushy" girls there. You have to be careful as well as the cost can mount up rapidly should they be into tequilas and margarita drinks. From memory they cost about $300 of which the girl gets a fair whack.

As I have reported often in the past, if a girl just simply asks for a drink after a minute or so I refuse as nice as is possible. If I get talking to her, strike up a rapport, and she does not mention buying a drink, I will probably buy her one. Depends on the vibes.

Nearly all the girls in the bars are FL's. There are many bars in Wan Chai with plenty of available girls that will go back with you to your hotel. The DH's used to hang out in New Makati but they are in most places now, particularly at weekends when they have a day off. Definitely a cheaper option. Many are freebies and are over the moon to get a "gift" of $500 as they leave your hotel.

Remember to report back.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1700216]Day 3, Hong Kong.

I really like Hong Kong. It's a modern city that feels different feel from other Asian cities I've visited.

I found my girl shortly afterwards. I was reading the signs in one corridor when the door for apartment 701 see swung open. A pretty girl was stood in the doorway wearing a skimpy outfit that revealed a slim, sexy figure. I always think it lacks etiquette asking a girl straight away "how much?" so I stepped closer and asked what her name was. She was Lina and she was 25 years old from Beijing. "You are beautiful" I told her, a line I imagined to be delivered with devastating James Bond like smoothness. After some flirty small-talk I asked her how much and she told me it would cost 500 for the 'full service'. I stepped inside.

As I lay in bed trying to get to sleep, I reflected on my time in Hong Kong so far. It had delivered in almost every area. There is loads to do during the day, the food is great and the 141 apartments are great fun. I'd been with three fantastic girls so far and I still had three days left before my train to Guilin. I was excited to see what tomorrow brings.[/QUOTE]Stellar reports. I just finished a 28 day stint in Pattaya and chronicled the experience on a day-by-day basis. I thought I did a pretty thorough job, but you standard of reporting has given me something higher to aim for my next time around.

I just want to thank Sky, Jack, Mv and Aiii2 for the useful answers to my questions. I will report back any useful information.

Canyon.

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1709980]All,

Are 141 walkup ladies as pretty / young / slim as the "honey girls"? Or is the premium paid for HG just for the convenience of choosing in the comfort of your home, having a prearranged meeting and possibly meeting the lady in a somewhat nice hotel room? I suppose not many guys like to spend time knocking at tens of doors, checking girls face to face until you find the one (I don; t mind if I have the time).[/QUOTE]From my experience the looks of HG is in average better because some 141 walk up have seen their best days already. But that does not say anything about peformance of course. Also there are some really nice 141 walk-ups as good as HG. If you have the time best is to check a few ladies online to your liking ideally in the same building. If you lose interest when personally encounter or all busy, its easy just walk around and check other doors. I did this several times and ended up alwyas with nice companion. Sometimes I would just go there and check randomly. If you go to the poular buildings there will be something for you for sure.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Aiii2;1707981]Call the girl and arrange a meeting. (The same day you want to meet her). You can also go to her apartment and just knock on the door, but she might be busy, or not even there. I recommend you call her first, have a little chat and ask the price for how long etc.

The best is not too expect too much, pictures are heavily photoshopped and apartmemts are very small. However the girls usual are very kind and helpful. A big plus if you can speak a bit of chinese since most do not speak english.

Good luck![/QUOTE]Thank you very much!

I am about to visit HK for a week, as I have done many times in the past, but this time is different. It's going to be a 100% mongering trip.

I read complaints everywhere that this and that place used to be much better in the past for our hobby, and that the offer now is more expensive / with less to choose from / mechanical / and the list goes on. Where I live, London, things may have actually improved but I think prices are crazy! It must be due to the Russian oligarchs and Arab oil tycoons Whatever the reason, I just can't afford to be taken care of by pretty ladies on a regular basis. Yes I can choose lesser quality girls or even go (almost) free with junkies (hiewwww.) but hey why should I.

In Asia, say what you want, a regular bloke can take home a pretty girl (almost) everyday even on a modest (expat) salary. I wish I get relocated someday! But for the moment, I can only have a taste of what it would be like to live in HK, Manila, etc. During one of my business trips.

So I have decided to take a week off, visit HK (and maybe a few more places) and get the fun I deserve. Meet friends during the day and party during the evening and night.

And thanks to all the contributors of this forum, and to my research (and past experiences), I listed the following options (with budgets):

-[B] 141 walk-ups[/B]: never done them before, as time was an issue on business trips. This time I will try a few buildings in Causeway and Kowloon, going to the top floor and walking down the building knocking at doors. I'm kinda picky in terms of quality, but I understand gems do exist, and I don't care doing it in a messy shoebox-sized apartment // Damage: 500 HKD / session (1 pop).

- [B]141 Honey Girls[/B]: ah, the sex 141 website. How many times I have used it. Too many to count and remember. How does it work? You look it up, choose the girl you like and call the number displayed next to the girl's photo. When someone answers, you say the name of the girl you want and at what time you want to meet her and they tell you a hotel name. You get to the hotel, call again and they will tell you a room number. Go to the room and you're set. Problem is, calling up these numbers is not for everybody, as many times no one at the other end of the phone speaks any (intelligible) English. I do speak a little Cantonese and Mandarin so I always get what I want, that is a generally pretty young slim PRC girl willing to please. I always insist that I either get the girl I request or I'll walk. It works. I used to get bait and switches, not any more. // Damage: 800-900 HKD / session (1 pop) - some girls, almost always foreign girls or locals HK girls, are more expensive but I never tried them. I also understand some girls are available for LT (2,400-2,700 HKD + taxi).

- [B]Saunas & KTV[/B]: there are waaaay less such establishments than many years ago, in HK that is. I read reports about K-pressure, Dundas, and I tried some saunas in Kowloon in the past (forgot the names). Having visited Mainland saunas (before 2010), I thought their HK counterparts were pretty lame. In PRC I got barely legal sex-starved smiling geishas for 600 RMB. Fugget about that in HK. It seems that in HK you invariably get older girls, or girls not as pretty as in other venues anyway; on the positive side, I must say they were usually good and willing to give you a good service and also a good massage. I will not try them on this particular trip // Damage: 500-1,000 HKD depending on the establishment but that includes a massage, free foods and drinks and some other complimentary stuff (and you can rest in their lounges before or after the deed).

- [B]Bars (bar girls and part-timers)[/B]: There may be more than one place in HK to go for this kinda fun, but I know (and tried) only one: Wanchai. I hate those pushy FL girls asking for lady drinks from the moment you step in (this happens more in some bars, like Nep3, than others), but I otherwise love the atmosphere. It's like new years eve all year round. It is also the experience that most resembles picking up a girl in "real life". You talk to a girl, buy her a drink or two, propose to go to your place. Sometimes it's a yes, sometimes it's a no (because she doesn't like you, or because there's no agreement on the terms and conditions). The only differences with real pick up situations are (1) you have to pay their fee and (2) both know exactly what's going to happen back at your place // Damage: I've seen it all! Some will end up liking you so much that they come to your place just for the fun, or for the ladydrink money you already gave them; some will ask for thousands HKD and you end up accepting because you are drunk and kinda fell in love with the girl. But on average I'd say 1,000-1,500 for a LT session + some lady drinks (hopefully not more than 1,000 HKD).

- [B]Bars (freebies)[/B]: I've never tried it yet; silly me! After reading reviews from fellow mongers about this asset class I think it won't take much time and effort to taste this honey after all. Hell, I'm in my early 30's and a well groomed, not ugly (I think.) white Caucasian male (no racism intended, but I certainly look exotic to Asian DHs I guess, just like they look exotic to me). I'll try this a couple of times during my trip, maybe just for the trill, and if doesn't work I'll go cry in the toilet (joking of course. If it doesn't work I'll try a bar girl / part-time gal from the same bar). // Damage: 0-500 HKD "gift".

- [B]Street action[/B]: I sometimes try out local street action on my biz trips, for the thrill mostly. I don't think I'll try it in HK. From what I have heard and seen, they may cost you less than 2-300 HKD but you end up wondering maybe you are the one who should get paid.

- [B]Escort websites[/B]: Even worse than street action but for the opposite reason. You basically pay 5,000 HKD for a what really is a 500 HKD 141 average girl. And you don't get to choose (that is, whomever you choose on the website, it's actually the agent that decides who he / she will send you). Some colleagues of mine tried this in HK, so I know (I can't stop laughing at them as they kept bragging about how they banged a pretty Asian gal for a fraction of the cost of an escort in London. Nahhht really).

- [B]Badoo, WeChat, Tinder, DateInAsia, FilipinoCupid, etc.[/B] : During the last weeks I have tried to prepare for my trip by trying to get to know a few girls on these apps. I still don't know how they [I]really[/I] look like and what's their attitude. Pursuing these options may have landed me a few freebies but so can a short visit to a mall or bar where DHs do. I still have them in my contact lists, but unless something magical happens in the meantime, I'll pass.

I also have a few options that technically shouldn't be in the HK thread. However, since they relate to my HK trip and can be viable options for HK mongers, here they are:

- [B]Macau[/B]: Saunas (Rio, Familia Nobre, East Spa, East Castle). I ventured the Macau forum and discovered really good service from a "model" would set you back 1,800-2,200 HKD / hour session, plus maybe 500 HKD for ferry and taxi. I know it's expensive compared to other options in HK but hey that's exactly what I pay here in London for a regular girl. May be worth, I'm considering it as an option anyway. Let's see if I'll feel like it.

- [B]Angeles (Philippines)[/B]: yes, you read it right. I just discovered AC is only a short 2 h / 1,800 HKD return flight from HK. Door to (bar) door, maybe 5 hours? As I read from the Angeles forum that girls in Angeles are rock-bottom cheap, including stunners, and hotels cost less than a HK ladydrink a night, I may give it a try.

- [B]ShenZhen / ZhuHai[/B]: They used to be the places to go for excellent saunas and cheap freelancers from the north of PRC (and excellent food, cheap hotels and low priced knockoff electronic gadgets). You can prove me wrong, but I think this is over.

Now, where to stay.

I've had my issues in the past bringing girls to my hotel room, be it issues with elevators requiring hotel keys, walks of shame, having hotel rooms next to colleagues. Hotel staff usually don't care a lick about you bringing ladies up to your room, but they certainly won't help you with it (astonishingly they do so in Moscow, but that's for another post). So, I went twith he two options below since 2012:

- [B]Girl-friendly hotels[/B]: I have been to many 141 Honey Girls hotels and they all have (not surprisingly) one characteristic in common: they are extremely girl friendly. Almost all (a) do not require room keys to operate the lift and (2) have elevators and lobbies separated from hotel check-in areas. I have a list I can post if you want. Oh, if you're lucky, there may be a 141 HG party happening there right when you are staying there.

- [B]B&Bs[/B]: Since AirBnB started, I have been a fan. I mean: cheaper than hotels, as private as can be, . If the employer is paying, everybody wins: they get to pay less, you get a classy apartment where you can bring ladies day and night, without any issues. You can even have separate rooms: one for the action and one for resting.

So, I'm finalizing my schedule, and if you have comments, corrections or ideas, speak now or forever hold your peace.

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1710592]I am about to visit HK for a week, as I have done many times in the past, but this time is different. It's going to be a 100% mongering trip.[/QUOTE]Hi Mvulane,

I am looking forward to your TR as I am contemplating a first-time trip. I am interested in Honey Girls but don't speak a lick of Mandarin / Cantonese. Do you think the handlers would respond better to texts than calls? I can always use a text translating app. Or should I stick to the girls that list English as a language in their profiles?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1710592]
Girl-friendly hotels: ... I have a list I can post if you want..... [/QUOTE]Yes, I would interested in this list if you can share, thanks.

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1710592] 141 walk-ups: ....going to the top floor and walking down the building knocking at doors. [/QUOTE]So, in this buildings the doors are close and you have to knocking at all doors for check all girls there?
Why they don't leave a door open like a German Erotic Laufhaus in the Red Light Districts.