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[QUOTE=Aviator12;1712668]I enjoy your post Mvulane, but a "gift" of 0-500 HKD as payment for sex is only possible if the girl really like you. Some of the Philippine or Indonesian DH's might be happy with this arrangement for one night, but believe me this is rare! You must be lucky, good looking, well behaved etc. Maybe you are. And then you could try your luck in some of the bars in WanChai or LanKwaiFong. But with such skills. You might have luck with some of the western girls there also.

Working girls are there mainly for the money. 2000 HKD seems to be the standard asking price these days, but I always manage to negotiate down to 1000 HKD for sometimes an all-night. Take your time if you find a girl you like, give her some drinks. She will get tipsy, like you better, perform better in bed etc. If there is a good chemistry she will likely lower her bid! And you will get to know her better also and enjoy a good time in the bar. In my opinion the Philippine girls and the Indonesian girls are most likely to lower their price. Girls from Thailand and Vietnam is less desperate and will stick to their high price (not to mention the Columbian ladies.). It is up to you and your wallet, but please always remember to treat the girls nice even the price is low or high.[/QUOTE]This is true if you pick up in the bars, because the DHs in the bars are there to work. However in the past month I have picked up no fewer than 3 DHs off the street at various times of the day / week and been fucking them at an hourly within 20 minutes with no mention of money. They all accepted what I chose to give them (500) without complaint (one was reluctant to take anything!) and all gave me their numbers and wanted to meet me again. Lots of DHs between contracts or who are off on days other than Sunday or who live out (illegally) visit agencies or go to the Immigration Department or stay in boarding houses many of which are clustered in Wan Chai. If you have the guts to walk up to a girl who makes eyes at you and go for the gold straight away the hit rate is relatively high. I don't consider myself good looking, but I am a nice guy and I think that shows through quickly. YMMV.

Question: Is it a common habit with Filipinas that they just stand you up when you schedule a date with them? 2 different Filipinas have done this to me in the past few months. One I made a date to meet her and she didn't show after half an hour and couldn't reach her by text, phone, e-mail, anything. She finally got in touch with me 2 weeks later from a different number and claimed to have been in a taxi accident that destroyed her phone. Gave her the benefit of the doubt and fucked her a couple more times then she did it again a few weeks ago and I haven't heard from her. So even if I hear from her again I won't make plans with her. But another Filipina did the same thing last week. Didn't show up and not reachable by text, phone, whatever, finally contacted me saying she'd lost her phone, but she'd texted me the day before and what a coincidence she loses her phone the day we are to meet then texts me later from the same number. Is losing a phone really that common? If I made as little money as they do I'd hold on to that fucking thing for dear life. Anyway that girl was not hot enough to get a second chance. Do any of you guys regularly get this line of BS from Filipinas? I thought they only told sob stories for money, what's in it for them to stand you up when you have a date planned? No Indo has ever done this to me.

Anyway. Enjoy the holiday weekend, have fun and stay safe.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1714492]Is losing a phone really that common?[/QUOTE]Filipinas never REALLY lose their phone, because that would require them to let go of the fucking thing for a moment.

Yes a few DH live out and work during the day. But do you think they have enough energy to work 10 to 12 hrs a day, and go out every night. I doubt it.

Johnny Rockets is accurate.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1714723]Yes a few DH live out and work during the day. But do you think they have enough energy to work 10 to 12 hrs a day, and go out every night. I doubt it.[/QUOTE]You do your girls an injustice! They seem to have plenty energy and stamina. Ay least, the ones I have met.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1714723]Yes a few DH live out and work during the day. But do you think they have enough energy to work 10 to 12 hrs a day, and go out every night. I doubt it.

Johnny Rockets is accurate.[/QUOTE]I generally agree, but I have met DHers who illegally live out and they have 2 or more part-time jobs (often just cleaning for single people or childless couples). These girls do not necessarily work 10 to 12 hours per day, and may go out some nights if they feel the urge. And, of course they do not need to be home by 9:00pm!

Ikksman

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1714492]Question: Is it a common habit with Filipinas that they just stand you up when you schedule a date with them?..[/QUOTE]Filipinas in general have no consept of "agreed time to meet". They always show up late for a date. I really don't know why but I think it has something to do with the so called "Phillipine Time"; the clock has no indicators whatsoever! It might not be true for all, but I have experienced this on at least 10 dates with Filipine girls. And yes, they do loose their phones at an alarming rate. Both in Hong Kong and at home. Very strange indeed.

Does anybody feel like meeting up tonight and going for a few drinks, showing a newbie to Hong Kong the ropes in Wan Chai? Please do message if interested!

Seems to be a lots of talk about DHs here in the HK forum. So here goes.

I have only met one DH in my life ever. I never had any thoughts about having sex with her but quite early she was very flirty. She wanted to hold hands in public, making jokes about sex etc. I knew where this was going.

I honestly told her that we can be friends and she seemed surprised. " You do not want to have fun? " - she asked. I told her no. But we can be friends.

After our relationship grew (friends only) we have been talking about this Wanchai and LKF bar scene. She admitted that she had sex with men (mainly foreigners) for money. 1500 a night, or gifts or whatever. She told me that at least I must get something out of it first, - I am not going to let anyone take advantage of me for free. I got the impression that she got hurt previously by men when she involved her feelings in relationships.

Now she had multiple relationships with men at the same time, that either paid her or gave her gifts. All men she said only wanted her for sex. She did not have anything good to say about these men except that she made money from them. When describing it she seemed to enjoy it, but after talking about it more the happiness was just a facade. I am not going in to details about this one but lets just say she had been treated very bad a few times. Even so, money talks and had no plans to ending it.

This girl has a very charming personality, looks good and dress sexy. While working as a helper she did not make much money. Most of that money went back to her home country. The extra money she made, as I understood it she used herself to eat, to live, and buy clothes. The funny thing was that she had no problem spending 1500 HKD on sexy underwear but spending 80 HKD on a meal was " crazy expensive."

Working Monday to Saturday, she did not have much free time. The salary was bad, really bad. She could make more money in one night in Wanchai than in a whole month working as a helper. The free time was spent with friends partying, shopping or being on " dates ". She felt like her life was going nowhere, the same kind of friends, the same kind of men, the same kind of life. Everyday I asked if she wanted to start a new life and quit this all for once but she just looked at me with hopeless eyes. " I need the money ". Her only option was to find real love, Mr right. To marry and to live in a foreign country. The dream many girls dream of, but to most are just a dream. I been living in Europe all my life and I do not like it but I did not want to crush her dream so I kept quiet.

We had a walk down the harbor and talked about other more happy things. She told me about her family back home and I shared some of my life. After this day we met up a few more times and who knows I might end up having a good friend for life.

Anyway, I really enjoy talking to her. She is very open about everything and allowed me to get a glimpse into a world that I had no idea about before I met her.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1714775]I generally agree, but I have met DHers who illegally live out and they have 2 or more part-time jobs (often just cleaning for single people or childless couples). These girls do not necessarily work 10 to 12 hours per day, and may go out some nights if they feel the urge. And, of course they do not need to be home by 9:00pm!

Ikksman[/QUOTE]I wonder if you are discussing ladies who are here illegally (overstayed dh visa) or ladies who have applied for asylum. They often have part time jobs during the day and at night.

My post was referring to DH who have a legal visa.

As Johnny Rocket posted there are many different situations.

[QUOTE=Aiii2;1715189]Seems to be a lots of talk about DHs here in the HK forum. So here goes.
I have only met one DH in my life ever. I never had any thoughts about having sex with her but quite early she was very flirty. She wanted to hold hands in public, making jokes about sex etc. I knew where this was going.
Anyway, I really enjoy talking to her. She is very open about everything and allowed me to get a glimpse into a world that I had no idea about before I met her.[/QUOTE]Very interesting insight about DH. The behind the scenes about the life of what we can call a P4 PDH. It might be a pretty common situation showing also the internal conflicts these girls go through. From spending "lots of money" in lingerie (does she rate that as an investment?) to being super saver on food (which, for a girl theoretically finding hard to make ends meet, should be the priority). Life on the edge with poor concern of future as sooner or later she will find out that her shelf life will be over and she will be left to the daily struggle of the pure DH income, with no Mr Love in sight.

Seen also the lack of free time, during which she gets her main income, wasn't she "wasting" her time with you, aware you were in target either as a sponsor or as a possible future Mr Love?

[QUOTE=Aviator12;1714901]Filipinas in general have no consept of "agreed time to meet". They always show up late for a date. I really don't know why but I think it has something to do with the so called "Phillipine Time"; the clock has no indicators whatsoever! It might not be true for all, but I have experienced this on at least 10 dates with Filipine girls. And yes, they do loose their phones at an alarming rate. Both in Hong Kong and at home. Very strange indeed.[/QUOTE]Yes but I was in contact with that girl via e-mail too so there's really no excuse. She just disappeared. Ah well plenty of fish in the South China Sea.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1712871]I have posted previously (more than once), how to find DHers during the week (such as at World Wide Plaza). But be aware most DHers need to get home by 8 or 9 pm, and their home may be one hour away in the New Territories (train then bus).

If only visiting HK for a few days mid-week it is best to use dating sites to get DHers who have free time that meets your schedule. Again, the methodology has been posted here previously.

Ikksman[/QUOTE]I'm less keen on World Wide House. Almost all the girls there are there with friends and it's harder to get them to leave their friends and come with you. I also have less balls to walk up to a group of girls than I do to walk up to a girl that's on her own.

It's also very crowded so it's harder to be discreet, and you are likely to be the only gwailo there and you get a lot of weird looks.

But if anyone has a successful technique they use for such situations at WWH or elsewhere please feel free to share. .

[QUOTE=Chantik;1715264]I wonder if you are discussing ladies who are here illegally (overstayed dh visa) or ladies who have applied for asylum. They often have part time jobs during the day and at night.
My post was referring to DH who have a legal visa.
As Johnny Rocket posted there are many different situations.[/QUOTE]I understood that you were referring to DHers who have legal visas, and yes, as JR says that are many different situations.

Most DHers that I have met over the years have been with families with children and work from 6:00 or 7:00 am to 10:00 or 11:00 pm. They could never go out at night even if they wanted to.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1715442]I'm less keen on World Wide House. {S N I P}
But if anyone has a successful technique they use for such situations at WWH or elsewhere please feel free to share. .[/QUOTE]I simply give a very slight smile to a girl, whether or not she is with friends or alone, and only approach those who respond positively in some way. If they are with friends, I often only get a mobile number (and chat with them later), but I have also found plenty of girls who have been alone. I think being crowded just increases one's chances of success.

I also approach DHers in the immediate vicinity of WWH. And not just at street level or in the MTR exits, but in the surrounding covered walkways connecting Chater House and Alexandra House etc.

Perhaps you might feel less pressure in some of the less crowded outlying areas where DHers meet. I do recommend Shatin New Town Plaza where I have met both Pinays and Indos. There are often girls who are simply waiting to meet another DH for some reason other than spending the rest of the day with them (such as repaying a loan. Haha).

Take a deep breathe and go for it. The rewards are worthwhile. I even have Pinay and Indo ex-freebies who I still chat to (on Wechat and Whatsapp), and they even introduce me to new friends. And I admit that I have helped a few financially who I knew were in genuine need (no sick carabao tho' - haha).

Ikksman

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1715425]Very interesting insight about DH. The behind the scenes about the life of what we can call a P4 PDH. It might be a pretty common situation showing also the internal conflicts these girls go through. From spending "lots of money" in lingerie (does she rate that as an investment?) to being super saver on food (which, for a girl theoretically finding hard to make ends meet, should be the priority). Life on the edge with poor concern of future as sooner or later she will find out that her shelf life will be over and she will be left to the daily struggle of the pure DH income, with no Mr Love in sight.

Seen also the lack of free time, during which she gets her main income, wasn't she "wasting" her time with you, aware you were in target either as a sponsor or as a possible future Mr Love?[/QUOTE]The lingerie part just made me laugh, she was dead serious about it. She usually send me pictures of her new sexy underwear and complains about how much it costs. But still feel a need to buy it rather than good food. LOL.

I think that she saw me as a potential "customer " in the beginning but then realized that our conversations actually had more depth in it than just sex. That's when I feel she start opening up more about her life. She still trying from time to time but more as a joke. Then she calls me boring because I do not respond to it. Now when I know about her life, I think she feel comfortable that she do not have to lie about anything while talking to me. I kind of feel the same way.

After the last time we met, (yes in my hotel room) she texted me and said. You really don't think I am sexy right? I asked why? - Because you do not get horny after seeing me in underwear. I told her that I could not do that to a friend but even if I wanted to I did not have much money anyway. She said, well I would give you for free stupid! Do you think I am a hooker?!

Ehhh, no. What can I say in that kind of situation? LOL. Then I just told her that I felt she was very sexy and beautiful but we better remain friends. To find a good man to take care of her bla bla bla.

Yes she is a strange one but always puts a smile in my face. .

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1715456]I understood that you were referring to DHers who have legal visas, and yes, as JR says that are many different situations.

Most DHers that I have met over the years have been with families with children and work from 6:00 or 7:00 am to 10:00 or 11:00 pm. They could never go out at night even if they wanted to.

I simply give a very slight smile to a girl, whether or not she is with friends or alone, and only approach those who respond positively in some way. If they are with friends, I often only get a mobile number (and chat with them later), but I have also found plenty of girls who have been alone. I think being crowded just increases one's chances of success.

I also approach DHers in the immediate vicinity of WWH. And not just at street level or in the MTR exits, but in the surrounding covered walkways connecting Chater House and Alexandra House etc.

Perhaps you might feel less pressure in some of the less crowded outlying areas where DHers meet. I do recommend Shatin New Town Plaza where I have met both Pinays and Indos. There are often girls who are simply waiting to meet another DH for some reason other than spending the rest of the day with them (such as repaying a loan. Haha).

Take a deep breathe and go for it. The rewards are worthwhile. I even have Pinay and Indo ex-freebies who I still chat to (on Wechat and Whatsapp), and they even introduce me to new friends. And I admit that I have helped a few financially who I knew were in genuine need (no sick carabao tho' - haha).

Ikksman[/QUOTE]I know you're right and I just need a little more balls.

About them introducing you to friends, I've had that happen. The Filipina who recently disappeared on me said she wanted to watch me fuck her friend. She said the friend had met some old white guy who lasted only 2 minutes and left her unsatisfied (Hopefully it wasn't one of you guys! Whereas I had been in the habit of giving this girl a solid hour (just of penetration, that's after dining at her why, that's right boys, there is some advantage to aging!) and she wanted her friend to have some too. Too bad I never got to meet the friend before the girl disappeared. Sigh.