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Well I was going to send you a PM but I think you need to sign up $20/ year to get them. Well worth it. Since you are fresh out of service I'll lend a helping hand here. $200/ day should be enough all inclusive except airfare of course. Philippine Airlines has RT direct flights for around $1100 from LA and San Francisco, I don't know about back east. The earlier you book the more you save. Three-star hotels run about $50/ night maybe a little more. Again, book ahead of time through agoda dot com or comparable and you can save a little. I stay at Orchid Inn which is near the action and has a pool and the food is ok. Cute waitresses. For fun $60 - 90 per all night guest (less for short time) but Your Mileage (and costs) Might Vary. Of course there are unlimited variations but these are basic guestimates. That leaves you around $50 for food and beer --plenty for three squares a day with a cutie on your arm. Ten days is relatively long in AC so I'd recommend a side trip to Subic (I stay at Treasure Island) or if you find one you like take her to 100 Islands or Baguio. Hit the websites (Date in Asia, Filipino Cupid, for example) to get some digits and dates lined up but realize there is a high drop-out / no-show rate (you have to confirm everything at least three times with these girls until you get to know them). I'm sure other veteran posters will have recommendations. Good luck and let us know how you did. Of course go back and read the forum for an hour or more to see others' perspectives.

[QUOTE=Halifax2016;1919837]Thanks for the reply. Sorry I should have been more thorough.

I will be staying in AC. p.[/QUOTE].

The round trip airfare runs $550 to $630 (looking in September through Google air search). $1100 ????

[QUOTE=Halifax2016;1919837]Thanks for the reply. Sorry I should have been more thorough.

I will be staying in AC. I would prefer average accommodations. The 200 USD daily I theorized was for everything including girls. I figured I might be way off.

I just got out of the service so I'm looking to have a really great time especially with food and girls. I am a very light drinker, a beer here or there (maybe 1-2 a day) and that's it.

I can increase my budget. How high do you suggest? Are the lower ends accommodations worth the savings? Is 10 days too long for a first time trip? I will be traveling from the East Coast USA. I'm looking to indulge in the girls.

Thanks again for the help.[/QUOTE]

If you can afford to increase your budget perhaps start with buying a membership. Blow $20.00 because a lot of info is shared via PM. Membership does have it's privileges. I am assuming you are also a Canuck. As a vet, of I am happy to try to help, Join the site and shoot me a PM. You may as well bring home some interesting pictures to convince people you went there for the history and sightseeing.

I have never been to Angeles, but everything I have read here suggests that ten days there is too long. Three or four days perhaps. Then get out and try other cities so you will see what the Philippines is all about. You won't find that in Angeles. On my first trip I was there for 21 days and it was almost too short, but in hindsight about the right time. Cebu is my place to go. It is central, and accessible to many other places. It has lots of historic places within the city. It is a cab ride to many other places such as beaches. Take in the history as the Philippines has lots of historic sites. Flights from Cebu to other cities in the south is inexpensive. From my point of view it is a great place and stinky and congested like Manila. Do some reading on the Cebu thread.

If you are looking for memorable food the Philippines is not the place to go.

I have never been into the P4 P scene. I am a Date in Asia Guy. About a month before you go join DIA. Chat with the ladies on DIA and you will only sleep alone when you chose to do so. Keep in mind that they may not be P4 P, but you will pay one way or the other be it gifts, clothing, trips, or whatever. Plus a little something in their purse when you are done with them. There is a DIA thread at the bottom of the page.

I agree with DCups on this. Figure your airfare separate. On $200/ day you should do fine in AC and Subic. His hotel recommendations are good. You can always stay somewhere nicer, but that will blow your budget. Plan 3 nights in AC + 3 nights in Subic + 3 nights in AC and your last night in Manila. Bring a little spare cash or a credit card. LOL.

For a 1st visit I recommend that you spend most, if not all of your recreational time with the bar girls and get to know what they are like. They are just awaiting to make your acquaintance and welcome you with open arms. RTFF. Take note of which bars receive the most positive reviews here. Understand the EWR (barfine) protocols and relative prices. Then go with the flow as soon as you arrive. Its so easy. On subsequent trips, as you learn the ropes, you can try lining up a few girls from the internet sites if you want to.

I remember my first visit to the PI. I flew directly into Clark from Macau. I spent 5 nights in AC, 5 nights in Makati, 5 nights in Cebu City, 4 nights in Palawan on a great beach, and 4 nights in Malate. I met great girls everywhere except on Palawan. I liked Makati and AC best for the girls. I also really liked Sabang, Palawan for its beautiful beach and as a great place to just kick back and do absolutely nothing. On my 2nd visit I went back to AC, Makati, Palawan and checked out Subic. I liked the relaxed vibe in Subic. There are not as many bars in Barrio Barretto (Subic) as in AC, but more than enough to quench your thirst. Very nice girls. Try to stay as long as you can. 14 days is better than 10. 18 days is better than 14. You are going to like the girls. I envy you your 1st visit. You are going to have one of the greatest times of your life.

Is the way to go. Assuming, as a vet, you can spill some dough. Girls from datingsites, facebook, bargirls or freelancers will be all over you. 200 $$ might be to tight and you will be thinking to much obtaining this certain budget. 3-400 $$ gives you the freedom to relax. Don't know your finances and economic powers of course.

You are in for a good treat. Bring sex tools, some condoms (if you fancy those) and just enjoy. I fancy Makati the most. Well I never been to AC so I will withdraw from debating AC good or not. I don't like the bar environments (girl bars). I do sidekicks with regular Phil ladies (students-/ air hosts-, waitresses-, call center-/ mall girls) to a great extent. I do enjoy the illusion from the girls "they like me" attitude. Its all about the moneys.

Even better.

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;1919892]The round trip airfare runs $550 to $630 (looking in September through Google air search). $1100 ????[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;1919892]The round trip airfare runs $550 to $630 (looking in September through Google air search). $1100 ????[/QUOTE]He said PAL and they are usually expensive, but are the only direct (non-stop) airline from the US west coast to Manila or Cebu. Having said that, next month PAL is running $854 for many dates, and even $750 in October. But I would agree that $1100 is kind of mid-point for PAL as I've had to hand over $1550 for MiL to use them last year (2 months in advance). This time it was either $1450 or another airline and layover. Latter.

I recently booked a United round trip to Manila from South Florida for $900 and small change. Historically this is a very good round trip price from South East Coast USA. There are two stops: Houston and Narita. I jumped on the rate as soon as I saw it. The flight gets into Manila at 9:30 pm so there is still plenty of time for my two favorite girls to meet me at my hotel and welcome me back. I can't wait!

[QUOTE=Halifax2016;1919837]Thanks for the reply. Sorry I should have been more thorough.

I will be staying in AC. I would prefer average accommodations. The 200 USD daily I theorized was for everything including girls. I figured I might be way off.

I just got out of the service so I'm looking to have a really great time especially with food and girls. I am a very light drinker, a beer here or there (maybe 1-2 a day) and that's it.

I can increase my budget. How high do you suggest? Are the lower ends accommodations worth the savings? Is 10 days too long for a first time trip? I will be traveling from the East Coast USA. I'm looking to indulge in the girls.

Thanks again for the help.[/QUOTE]Greetings bro, firstly thanks for your service to your country, I greatly appreciate our military.

Now about your first trip. I think most guys visiting the PI will spend a week in AC tops because it is a one trick town. Not much to do except hit the bars and have fun w / the innocent simple minded ladies working the bars.

It is elementary mongering as easy as hitting water jumping out of a boat. There are 2 areas of interest for the monger, glitzy Fields Ave and then the more laid back Perimeter Rd w / a group of bars here and another group there. These two areas are about a mile apart so easy to pop back and forth, w / Fields Ave being a little more pricey, than the Perimeter Rd bars which start opening at noon. Price differences are 1500 p to 2000 p for BF on Perimeter and 2500 to 3000 p on Fields Ave. In general the Fields Ave scene has more bars, more women, more lookers, more excitement.

My method of operation in AC (this Sept will be my 10th visit) is to go hunt the Perimeter bars starting around 1 pm and pop into as many as it takes to find my afternoon honey. Then we have a few drinks here and there or I take her back to my hotel Pacific Breeze ($40 per night) buy a $4 bathing suit and enjoy the rest of the afternoon in the PB pool. After that the main event and then she's on her way and I take a nap, eventually dinner and then around 8 pm I take a very short walk to Fields Ave and start the night game.

The Fields bars are a lot more fun than the Perimeter bars (for some) and have elaborate dancing shows w / 50/60 ladies doing choreographed dance routines that they work on and entertain the monger with. It is great fun to be in the audience and watch the humanity on stage and then BOOM! You see a pretty little thing and you motioned to her that you want her to sit w / you. Or you ask the waitress to go get her and then she's sitting w / you up close. So now the fun has doubled because a lot is happening and the potentials also multiply. These bars will want you to buy a lady drink as soon as she sits down. I politely request that the lady does not order a double LD and orders a normal LD. Most of these women have no problem when I do that.

After all, the woman just sat down and you really don't even know what will come out of her mouth. Maybe she will not bar fine for any number of reasons, the most common excuse is, "I'm on the men" meaning menstruation which is pretty much the end of the line. When they say that it's time to move on. Some guys ask the bar girl if she has the men before buying an LD, but your giving her an out before she knows anything about you. That's why I usually ask her if she'll bar fine (or leave the bar w / me) after I buy a normal LD. Most bars in mongering zones are aggressive when it comes to selling drinks so be on guard.

Hotels? My preference is to be close to Fields Ave so I stay at Pacific Breeze. It is a bit run down but they are super friendly, the restaurant is very good and the pool is even better. Their pool is where I have some of my best memories. Just floating around w / my Perimeter lady, her legs around me and my arms around her, face to face. Just water dancing in circles forever and ever smiling and happy. It's pretty special and one of the reasons AC is my favorite place on earth. For others it's something different, for me it's the magic in the pool and the the great sex afterwards. The hotel Score Birds in close by and newer w / a beauty contest every Saturday and lower prices I think. There should be some decent maps of the Fields Ave / Perimeter bar layout so you know where your hotel will be in relation. In between these 2 areas is mid Fields and there are a few good bars there as well. These bars, Brass Knob and Ponytails etc use to be dumps and I never went in except once and that was enough but on my last trip in April of this year I went in and was surprised to see these bars had great line ups and nice comfortable interiors. So if you stay mid Fields definitely check those out.

So that is AC in a nutshell. I'll be there in a month or so and had so much fun the last time that I will be staying for 10 days which is a long long time for dirty little AC. The easy going women make up for any short coming the town itself has. If your budget is $200 you will be living large. You don't sound like a guy who will need to spend that much per day and have a fantastic time.

In Manila you will need every bit of the $200 per day. Makati is where a lot of mongers end up staying because it is clean and safe. The Makati scene is centered around Burgos St and Burgos St is a sight to see when things get rolling at night. The dancers here are more sophisticated and smart. They dress better (in actual dresses) and know how to take care of themselves. In AC the women are like country bumpkins but not so in the big city. Many Burgos St bars have early bird discounts on their drinks and bar fine charges. So a top bar like Bottoms w / a bar fine of 3600 p will offer a 2600 p bar fine before 7 pm, same w / other bars scattered around Burgos St. Also the street floods w / free lancers so if you want to avoid the bar fine cost there is plenty to choose from right there on the street. Like I said before, it is great fun to sit at an open cafe and watch the Burgos St Zoo. Again, this is elementary mongering but the cost are more than double AC prices. OTOH the visual quality of the hookers in Makati are also double that of their AC counterparts. Example, Kojax Bar charges 3600 bar fine and the dancer will want 3000 p usually for short time. This price is very high and probably most mongers will not pay those prices. On my last trip I asked the mamasan there (Amy) for a discount BF and she gave me a 2900 p BF of which I did take a lady out. If you have a little charm and time you can then arrange side dates w / the dancer thus no BF cost. So there are 2 worlds on Burgos street, maybe 3 w / the lower end bars such as Rogues etc.

A hotel very close to Burgos (no pool) is the Red Planet Hotel and the price is under $40 I think. I usually stay at St Giles which is too costly but has a pool. Oh, in the big city the afternoon pool time and $4 bathing suits are not readily available if you only work the bars as I generally do.

Closing it out if I were you I would spend 6/7 days in AC and then a couple of days in Makati. Taxis are cheap and there are many other options in Manila, the Edsa Complex, LA Cafe, etc.

I hope this additional info helps along w / all the other good advice. Maybe someone can post a good map of the bar layout.

The first is a Burgos dancer. The other is a sweet AC dancer.

[QUOTE=Halifax2016;1919837]Thanks for the reply. Sorry I should have been more thorough.

I will be staying in AC. I would prefer average accommodations. The 200 USD daily I theorized was for everything including girls. I figured I might be way off.

I just got out of the service so I'm looking to have a really great time especially with food and girls. I am a very light drinker, a beer here or there (maybe 1-2 a day) and that's it.

I can increase my budget. How high do you suggest? Are the lower ends accommodations worth the savings? Is 10 days too long for a first time trip? I will be traveling from the East Coast USA. I'm looking to indulge in the girls.

Thanks again for the help.[/QUOTE]Your situation sounds familiar to me from some years ago. Many on this board have given spot-on advice for on the ground in AC or Makati. I'm also no drinker. If you're bored during the non-peak show hours, I very much recommend inviting girls you find online close to your location. Send 100 messages that say "Hi, I'm visiting now from wherever my first time in the Philippines. May I text you? What's your cell number?" When (not if) they ask you what you're looking for, you can say "I'm only here for a visit. I'm looking for a fun, open-minded girl for companionship while I'm here. " Out of 100, I'm sure you'll get 20+ willing to meet you as soon as they're free. Another 50 or so will try to get you into a relationship. Your life, your rules. Insist on verifying age and gender. PM me any time for specific advice about Metro Manila. I'm a novice in AC.

Someone recently mentioned that many reports here only show the good stuff, the sex, the young girls, the freebies. This report is a recap of some of my "happenings" over the years: the good, the bad, the ugly. Here goes:

From the AC thread, currently p748, Mar 28-2011. #8020 and #8028. Got myself into trouble with a pair of bargirls and the bar owner / manager:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1138552&viewfull=1#post1138552[/URL]

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1138989&viewfull=1#post1138989[/URL]

Other Areas thread, Pain in the province x3, about p29, July 25-2014. #1918, #1920, #1929:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=1599308&viewfull=1#post1599308[/URL]

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=1599324&viewfull=1#post1599324[/URL]

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=1601356&viewfull=1#post1601356[/URL]

Photo Gallery, Sisters Bar Cebu. Bargirl runs in the middle of the night, page 329, June 21-2011. #3472. Two thousand+ views on the first of 3 pics.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1138989&viewfull=1#post1138989[/URL]

PhotoGallery, Oral joy, Sept 14-2011, p314. #3712, #3713.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1196328&viewfull=1#post1196328[/URL]

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1197304&viewfull=1#post1197304[/URL]

Page 312, Sept 17-2011, #3729.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1198186&viewfull=1#post1198186[/URL]

PhotoGallery, Doggy and facial, p251, June 12-2012 #4653.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1292433&viewfull=1#post1292433[/URL]

You didn't say which east coast city you are flying out from. Nor your age, food preferences, hobbies and whether you are an active person or more laid beck.

United Airlines have some pretty decent prices out of New Jersey and the Houston hub. I didn't check other cities.

Hotel prices are way down. I use [URL]tripadvisor.com[/URL] for comparison rates. Many decent hotels with pools in the $60 range.

As for food, there are many decent restaurants at decent prices. I have found the restaurant prices are about half the USA prices for comparable meals. Budget $25-30 a day for good meals. Of course you can eat for less.

As for girls I spend $50 to $100 a day. Some days I get one girl and other days I double up. About every 2-3 days I take a day off to recoup. I primary get girls from the bars or referrals from bar girls. I suggest you as a newbie to stick to bar girls and not try your luck on FL until you learn the lay of the land.

Also not mentioned here is getting legit massages. The rates vary starting at $6 per hour. In room service is usually around $9 per hour. I prefer a massage service associated with the hotel for a good massage. Nothing like having a 2 hour massage in the room between breaks with your BG lying next to you. FYI, I have never had a good massage from the massage girls, soliciting out in the street. Also the massage shops will do outcall to hotels.

Enjoy your self and possibly up your budget to enjoy more if you like. YOLO.

I posted prices in US dollars for easier newbie calculations and you stated your budget in US dollars.

P.S. I have found AC to be addictive with the poon, massages and even with manicures and pedicures.

[QUOTE=Amanut;1919897]Keep in mind that they may not be P4 P, but you will pay one way or the other be it gifts, clothing, trips, or whatever. Plus a little something in their purse when you are done with them.[/QUOTE]That is exactly P4P! You can call it a date if you want but buying a girl clothes, gifts and trips and then putting something extra in their purse is P4P plain and simple.

[QUOTE=Halifax2016;1919837]Thanks for the reply. Sorry I should have been more thorough.

I will be staying in AC. I would prefer average accommodations. The 200 USD daily I theorized was for everything including girls. I figured I might be way off.

I just got out of the service so I'm looking to have a really great time especially with food and girls. I am a very light drinker, a beer here or there (maybe 1-2 a day) and that's it.

I can increase my budget. How high do you suggest? Are the lower ends accommodations worth the savings? Is 10 days too long for a first time trip? I will be traveling from the East Coast USA. I'm looking to indulge in the girls.

Thanks again for the help.[/QUOTE]You are getting a lot of advice on hotels from others as well as advice from a couple of guys to stick with the bar girls on your first trip which also seems reasonable. So I will try to help you clarify what it is you are looking for in this trip and that will help determine your budget.

What do you mean by "have a really great time especially with foods and girls" this is the key question for your budget and the location.

Examples for AC, I've found Manila to be more expensive and Subic less so.

If you are happy with having one girl all night and only one girl and you go low key on the lady drinks then 2500-3000 pesos for bar fine + 200-250 for a lady drink. Add in your hotel and meals and you will definitely be under your $200 budget.

Same above scenario but you want to "party" with the girl you took and you start bar hopping, taking her to the disco then the drinks will start to add up but still under your budget.

Or this is not enough? You want a massage with a handjob at lunch, a blowjob around dinner and two ladies overnight in your jacuzzi? Then the costs start adding up.

So you still need to decide what will constitute a really great time for you. Then we can pin down a closer number for your budget and more specific recs but if I was planning a first trip I would aim a little higher than just a 10 day trip to AC. The amount of $ and time for airfare need to be factored in. I would suggest a 3 week trip at least and go spend a week in Thailand (especially as you said food is a priority for you) a week in PI and a stop in Cambodia to see Angkor. You owe yourself a nice trip.

Question from a friend who is in Phil now: he was with a working girl one night. He said she looks of legal age. They have sex. They stay together for 3 days. After 3 days he wants to say bye bye and move on. She mentions that she is only 17. He is now shitting himself and worried. He emails me and says what should he do? I said not get so drunk and check ID (if looks young prob is). He says yeah great help now. I ask him is she asking for money or saying she will tell anybody. He says not at this stage. She showed him her ID. He said it was from some school or something.

Question: should I tell him get the hell out of there? Wait and see what happens? Offer money? He says he has paid hotel for 2 weeks and doesn't want to leave unless absolutely necessary. Under what conditions or circumstances should he leave or stay? What should I advise him?? He is shit scared as is his first time in philippines and has heard scary stories.