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[QUOTE=NewImage;1920540]Question from a friend who is in Phil now: he was with a working girl one night. He said she looks of legal age. They have sex. They stay together for 3 days. After 3 days he wants to say bye bye and move on. She mentions that she is only 17. He is now shitting himself and worried. He emails me and says what should he do? I said not get so drunk and check ID (if looks young prob is). He says yeah great help now. I ask him is she asking for money or saying she will tell anybody. He says not at this stage. She showed him her ID. He said it was from some school or something.

Question: should I tell him get the hell out of there? Wait and see what happens? Offer money? He says he has paid hotel for 2 weeks and doesn't want to leave unless absolutely necessary. Under what conditions or circumstances should he leave or stay? What should I advise him?? He is shit scared as is his first time in philippines and has heard scary stories.[/QUOTE]Not enough info. Where is he (city)? Where is the girl from? Nearby?

The remainder of his hotel payment will be the least of his worries.

Ask him to get out.

And not to visit that country again.

[QUOTE=NewImage;1920540]Question from a friend who is in Phil now: he was with a working girl one night. He said she looks of legal age. They have sex. They stay together for 3 days. After 3 days he wants to say bye bye and move on. She mentions that she is only 17. He is now shitting himself and worried. He emails me and says what should he do? I said not get so drunk and check ID (if looks young prob is). He says yeah great help now. I ask him is she asking for money or saying she will tell anybody. He says not at this stage. She showed him her ID. He said it was from some school or something.

Question: should I tell him get the hell out of there? Wait and see what happens? Offer money? He says he has paid hotel for 2 weeks and doesn't want to leave unless absolutely necessary. Under what conditions or circumstances should he leave or stay? What should I advise him?? He is shit scared as is his first time in philippines and has heard scary stories.[/QUOTE]

If it were me I would get the hell out of there ASAP.

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[QUOTE=NewImage;1920540]Question from a friend who is in Phil now: he was with a working girl one night. He said she looks of legal age. They have sex. They stay together for 3 days. After 3 days he wants to say bye bye and move on. She mentions that she is only 17. He is now shitting himself and worried. He emails me and says what should he do? I said not get so drunk and check ID (if looks young prob is). He says yeah great help now. I ask him is she asking for money or saying she will tell anybody. He says not at this stage. She showed him her ID. He said it was from some school or something.

Question: should I tell him get the hell out of there? Wait and see what happens? Offer money? He says he has paid hotel for 2 weeks and doesn't want to leave unless absolutely necessary. Under what conditions or circumstances should he leave or stay? What should I advise him?? He is shit scared as is his first time in philippines and has heard scary stories.[/QUOTE]Just a day ago there was a post about settling at the lowest level possible. Avoid any escalation of any sort. And forget the hotel booking for two weeks and anything else. Just get the hell out of there as quickly and as quietly as possible.

Unless this friend fancies fish head soup in a third world prison for the rest of his life.

[QUOTE=NewImage;1920540]Question from a friend who is in Phil now: he was with a working girl one night. He said she looks of legal age. They have sex. They stay together for 3 days. After 3 days he wants to say bye bye and move on. She mentions that she is only 17. He is now shitting himself and worried. He emails me and says what should he do? I said not get so drunk and check ID (if looks young prob is). He says yeah great help now. I ask him is she asking for money or saying she will tell anybody. He says not at this stage. She showed him her ID. He said it was from some school or something.

Question: should I tell him get the hell out of there? Wait and see what happens? Offer money? He says he has paid hotel for 2 weeks and doesn't want to leave unless absolutely necessary. Under what conditions or circumstances should he leave or stay? What should I advise him?? He is shit scared as is his first time in philippines and has heard scary stories.[/QUOTE]In short; he must escape as soon as possible. You never know what happens tomorrow. If he is worried about his hotel booking I am sure he doesn't understand what shit he could be in?? In general he has no rights in Phils and being banged up there I guess could be interesting. I am sure you get the idea what you should tell your friend to do.

[QUOTE=NewImage;1920540]Question from a friend who is in Phil now: he was with a working girl one night. He said she looks of legal age. They have sex. They stay together for 3 days. After 3 days he wants to say bye bye and move on. She mentions that she is only 17. He is now shitting himself and worried. He emails me and says what should he do? I said not get so drunk and check ID (if looks young prob is). He says yeah great help now. I ask him is she asking for money or saying she will tell anybody. He says not at this stage. She showed him her ID. He said it was from some school or something.

Question: should I tell him get the hell out of there? Wait and see what happens? Offer money? He says he has paid hotel for 2 weeks and doesn't want to leave unless absolutely necessary. Under what conditions or circumstances should he leave or stay? What should I advise him?? He is shit scared as is his first time in philippines and has heard scary stories.[/QUOTE]Tell him to just marry her. What does he mean she is a working girl? Bar girl? FL? SW? Is she an experienced working girl? If so, she may not be after anything other than normal compensation. But it doesn't mean someone else that finds out isn't in for a payday.

By now any advice would be worthless if he hasn't left by now.

[QUOTE=NewImage;1920540]Question from a friend who is in Phil now: he was with a working girl one night. He said she looks of legal age. They have sex. They stay together for 3 days. After 3 days he wants to say bye bye and move on. She mentions that she is only 17. He is now shitting himself and worried. He emails me and says what should he do? I said not get so drunk and check ID (if looks young prob is). He says yeah great help now. I ask him is she asking for money or saying she will tell anybody. He says not at this stage. She showed him her ID. He said it was from some school or something.

Question: should I tell him get the hell out of there? Wait and see what happens? Offer money? He says he has paid hotel for 2 weeks and doesn't want to leave unless absolutely necessary. Under what conditions or circumstances should he leave or stay? What should I advise him?? He is shit scared as is his first time in philippines and has heard scary stories.[/QUOTE]Agree with the other suggestions but if he insists on hanging on, at the very least change rooms and keep a low profile. Hopefully a large enough hotel with more than one entrance.

Idle thought: maybe is old enough and attempting to scam. Something to muse after going AWOL.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1920547]Not enough info. Where is he (city)? Where is the girl from? Nearby?

The remainder of his hotel payment will be the least of his worries.[/QUOTE]He is in Subic. He doesn't know where girl is from but suspects she is a local. He already is in Angeles hoping to hide amongst the larger population. I told him not to risk it and get further away or come home ASAP. He met this girl at a bar in Subic. Prob a FL. Since leaving Subic he has no contact with her. He registered at Angeles hotel under a false name and is keeping a low profile. He has calmed down abit. He is thinking about going back to manila to hide more. I have seen the replies from many posters and they mostly say come home. What chance is there of "them" hunting him down now that he has moved to Angeles or even manila? I know the safest option is to tell him come home but seems like a drastic move when (I'm not sure about this) I would think this thing happens quite regularly over there? One poster said never go back. Is that because you think he's an idiot or because in the future there might be further repercussions? Thanks from him and me for your counsel.

If I were in that position, I would indeed leave / flee the country immediately and never go back. Even if the odds are one in a thousand, it's not worth it. There are plenty of other countries.

[QUOTE=NewImage;1920744]He is in Subic. He doesn't know where girl is from but suspects she is a local. He already is in Angeles hoping to hide amongst the larger population. I told him not to risk it and get further away or come home ASAP. He met this girl at a bar in Subic. Prob a FL. Since leaving Subic he has no contact with her. He registered at Angeles hotel under a false name and is keeping a low profile. He has calmed down abit. He is thinking about going back to manila to hide more. I have seen the replies from many posters and they mostly say come home. What chance is there of "them" hunting him down now that he has moved to Angeles or even manila? I know the safest option is to tell him come home but seems like a drastic move when (I'm not sure about this) I would think this thing happens quite regularly over there? One poster said never go back. Is that because you think he's an idiot or because in the future there might be further repercussions? Thanks from him and me for your counsel.[/QUOTE]I would never admit to being in a similar position so I won't say that I am speaking from experience. That being said, I think that the worse is over for this guy. If he did not get the feeling that girl was angry with him then that is all the more reassuring. He is in Angeles under an alias with a thousand other guys and hundreds of hotels. Whoever might be interested in tracking him would have unsurpassed ambition. I am cynical here but I don't think that any law enforcement would focus on this unless they saw an easy way to shake him down for money. He will sweat it when he goes through immigration on departure but I think he will be OK.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;1920757]I would never admit to being in a similar position so I won't say that I am speaking from experience. That being said, I think that the worse is over for this guy. If he did not get the feeling that girl was angry with him then that is all the more reassuring. He is in Angeles under an alias with a thousand other guys and hundreds of hotels. Whoever might be interested in tracking him would have unsurpassed ambition. I am cynical here but I don't think that any law enforcement would focus on this unless they saw an easy way to shake him down for money. He will sweat it when he goes through immigration on departure but I think he will be OK.[/QUOTE]I am speaking out from a worst case scenario of course because I have from a few years learned not to trust anyone ex my mom, hehe. If the girl is skilled or she tells someone more skilled than her she can easy get ideas for a bigger pay down. If he lived under his real name in Subic tracking him down and put out a hold of departure (flagged down in immigration) towards him is easy. Girl need only to report him. It doesn't matter if stays in AC, Cebu or Manila as the computer system will stop him when departure so authorities can just wait and not actively search for him. That is basically why some of us advocated the quick departure out of the country so, again as in a worst case scenario, computer systems wouldn't be updated. I enjoy the Phils very much and I operate pretty much under the radar in most cases being a nice bloke and everything and hopefully I don't raise anyone's eyebrows. If I knew I did something wrong (volunteer or not, doesn't matter in Phils, you have no rights here) I would just do a "run Forest, run". But no one can help him now if he still is in Phils and things starts to downhill.

[QUOTE=NewImage;1920744]He is in Subic. He doesn't know where girl is from but suspects she is a local. He already is in Angeles hoping to hide amongst the larger population. I told him not to risk it and get further away or come home ASAP. He met this girl at a bar in Subic. Prob a FL. Since leaving Subic he has no contact with her. He registered at Angeles hotel under a false name and is keeping a low profile. He has calmed down abit. He is thinking about going back to manila to hide more. I have seen the replies from many posters and they mostly say come home. What chance is there of "them" hunting him down now that he has moved to Angeles or even manila? I know the safest option is to tell him come home but seems like a drastic move when (I'm not sure about this) I would think this thing happens quite regularly over there? One poster said never go back. Is that because you think he's an idiot or because in the future there might be further repercussions? Thanks from him and me for your counsel.[/QUOTE]No need to sweat it or hide anymore. He can deny that anything happened other than she was in or near his room. At this point he is out of there and they would have to find him. Highly unlikely they (who ever is they) find him. Hope he is smart enough if he had a Philippines cell sim that he would change it by now.

I would actually be hiding between those sweet AC Pinays legs all day long. Enjoy his time and double up on the bar girls. Just make sure the BG looks over 20 yo and their ID proves it.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1920775]No need to sweat it or hide anymore. He can deny that anything happened other than she was in or near his room. At this point he is out of there and they would have to find him. [/QUOTE]The worst seems to be over. Hiding in AC or Manila is all the same. Between the legs of pinays is an even better suggestion!! Getting out of the country is still the best suggestion IMHO. Nothing is more valuable than your life and freedom.

That said, if you ain't caught with your pants down you can safely deny you ever took 'them off. Your word against a local might still be a tough one, but its better than being caught in the room with the girl. Still a few questions -.

1. In Subic did he register with his real name and passport? That could leave a trail.

2. Did the girl register at the hotel reception with her ID? I am thinking she did not, else the age issue would have been discovered.

3. Did the hotel in Subic have CCTV cameras? I would worry less about that if its more than a few days old. There needs to be serious motivation to pursue that route. If if is not going to be easy money, then probably the local barangay police will not pursue it. Still no way of saying if there is an APB out on the guy.

I hope all newbies read this chain of posts and take some concrete steps to ensure their personal safety when they visit Philippines to partake in our hobby.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1920791]The worst seems to be over. Hiding in AC or Manila is all the same. Between the legs of pinays is an even better suggestion!! Getting out of the country is still the best suggestion IMHO. Nothing is more valuable than your life and freedom.

That said, if you ain't caught with your pants down you can safely deny you ever took 'them off. Your word against a local might still be a tough one, but its better than being caught in the room with the girl. Still a few questions -.

1. In Subic did he register with his real name and passport? That could leave a trail.

2. Did the girl register at the hotel reception with her ID? I am thinking she did not, else the age issue would have been discovered.

3. Did the hotel in Subic have CCTV cameras? I would worry less about that if its more than a few days old. There needs to be serious motivation to pursue that route. If if is not going to be easy money, then probably the local barangay police will not pursue it. Still no way of saying if there is an APB out on the guy.

I hope all newbies read this chain of posts and take some concrete steps to ensure their personal safety when they visit Philippines to partake in our hobby.[/QUOTE]It would appear things have settled down a lot. He hasn't had any contact since leaving a day ago. He is keeping low and hoping that nothing happens at immigration in a week and a half time.

Just a question. If you can obtain counterfeit ID cards in the Philippines or if sisters swap ID cards etc how can you be sure that this age thing doesn't happen again. If you use the adage "if she looks too young she probably is" then that will work but is there a way of telling genuine ID from fake?

Or is hotel security a good way of vetting deceivers??

What do you do? Appreciate your wisdom.

[QUOTE=NewImage;1920744]I know the safest option is to tell him come home but seems like a drastic move when (I'm not sure about this) I would think this thing happens quite regularly over there? One poster said never go back. Is that because you think he's an idiot or because in the future there might be further repercussions? Thanks from him and me for your counsel.[/QUOTE]Take it from me.

There are a dozen groups who will take up her case, however silly it may be.

And in Philippines legal system, a dozen parties can file cases on behalf of one victim.

And, if you live in certain parts of Luzon, the local tabloids actually have lawyers offering free service for women abused by natives and foreigners.

If it was me, I would fly to any nearby country and watch, than being presented in TV as suspect caught and a few death threats issued.

Nope, the locals don't apologize or pay compensation if the case turned out to be a scam. And you can't go back to clear your name and get your name off the immigration black list even if the case was dismissed.

Clearing your name is another separate costly process in Philippines.

P.S, having met a girl in a pick up bar is no excuse for dishonoring decent and homely Filipina as pros (pun intended.) enough foreigners found that the hard way. M.