[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2948137]Unfortunately, the chick said something like, "Gringos come down here and think they can do whatever they want with our bodies. " [/QUOTE]That is true in many instances.
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[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2948137]Unfortunately, the chick said something like, "Gringos come down here and think they can do whatever they want with our bodies. " [/QUOTE]That is true in many instances.
[QUOTE=TonyEm;2946518]Just FYI the going rate there is about 80 k COP.
2 mil tip is customary in those clubs.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]It's gone up, no? I'm pretty sure it hasn't been that cheap for full service in a while.
[QUOTE=MateoCast98;2945562]How did you get your favorite girl you regularly see to go raw? I've noticed most will after a few dates. Even gustos girls if they like you. Regular tinder dates and regular girls you pick up normally are 100% raw in my experience not once have they even mentioned a condom. At clubs like gustos or fase dos I don't look for BBFS due to obvious high mileage. And from what I've heard from friends most don't at gustos.
However my two fave / regulars which I take out from gustos quite often. They have let me go bare. These are top gustos chicks, they arrive at midnight and within 30 minutes they got a guy for 300 dollars toda la noche. They are friends you frequenters would recognize them immediately.
First chick, white Latina, huge fake double the tits, great face, clearly goes to the gym. Pretty face. I've been seeing her for three years.
Met her, took her out from gustos about 6-7 times the first month I met her, I would always buy her a drink even when I take out other girls. We were at my place making out and I just asked "you're so sexy can we go bare?" I'm in my 20's, work out, fluent in Spanish. She looks me up and down hesitantly, I can tell she is considering it, we've had fun together. She gives me the classic, "are you clean? " of course baby, she says " I never do that so I'm clean to I just want to be safe" I say what if I give you a little extra, I offer 200 mil more she says okay "only because it's you"..
..,,Anyways that's how I got my favorite gustos regulars to go raw.[/QUOTE]That was a novel LOL.
First, I haven't been to Gusto's since 2018 or so, but I am surprised that it's now $250-$300 starting and so many guys are paying that. I remember when it was $60-$80 not long ago! Maybe $100-$120 all night and theyd stay until noon. Also, it's one thing to pay that if you're visiting for a 3 day weekend and another when you live there and can visit so many other venues. I encourage you to explore.
Second, I wouldn't think it's very hard to get a girl to go bare for a 200 k ($50) upcharge. That's a total score of $300-$350 (including original fee) for them! The working mothers need it for their kids. The forum can attest. If you're still in your 20s that can also add up, but I’m not a monger that will tell another where to spend his coin and Im sure you're doing very well… I just laugh as I see so many ‘$60,000 millionaires’ from the states blowing their money in MDE like there’s no tomorrow.
Last, I would NEVER bust in a girl unless older and clipped. Even if clean, I've heard way too many stories of girls blackmailing guys or having 'accidental' surprises that they were then legally or ethically obligated to support. Just the same as the OnlyFans models trying to get knocked up by NBA and NFL players these days. I can't tell you how many girls have told me they wanted to have my kid after a few dates.
Be careful!
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2941896]Go to Loutron. The lineup is decent, most girls are in the 7 to 8 range. The place is clean and safe, and is a short uber drive from where you will be staying at. Rates are about 400 mil for 1 HR. I can't think of a better option.[/QUOTE]Have you hit up any of the casas in Laureles? I booked the Laureles suites and will be staying with my buddy, we are planning to hit up the local casas that are 160-200 k COP, with oral natural for 40-70 k extra.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2948156]That was a novel LOL.
First, I haven't been to Gusto's since 2018 or so, but I am surprised that it's now $250-$300 starting and so many guys are paying that. I remember when it was $60-$80 not long ago! Maybe $100-$120 all night and theyd stay until noon. [/QUOTE]That was before the post C19 digital nomad / creep cam / passport bros / gringo invasion.
It's gotten to the point that I go out of my way to avoid foreigners, especially when they go out of their way to engage with me. In the past I was mostly neutral vis a vis foreigners. Lately whenever I've been around foreigners I notice they attract dodgy locals looking to take advantage of them. To see for yourself, have a look at the locals who approach tourists on la 10.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2948137]Another dumbfuck has stirred up a shit storm. Some "photographer" is all over social media because he took advantage of and beat up a local "influencer" / "model" . As most of you know, every Paisa thinks she is an influencer and model. So, it's being circulated like a wild fire. Unfortunately, the chick said something like, "Gringos come down here and think they can do whatever they want with our bodies. " Poor girl but I see these types coming from a mile away. Due to the living status of most chicks, they almost can't say no to a million peso work day. They overlook all the red flags and unknowingly put themselves at risk. A year or so ago I warned my ex about this exact guy, telling her it's all bullshit. Anyway, the girl said it happened early to mid August, she filed a report after going to the hospital, and nothing has been done. A quick check on Instagram or Tik Tok will likely bring it up, but everything I've seen is in Spanish (for those who don't speak it).
Stay safe out there. The authorities will be forced to act / respond, and every time an idiot gringo does something dumb, the locals pardon 1000 uncles of their previous sins. Hopefully no one in this group has anything more to worry about then some gringo discrimination, but if you do, I hope you get what you deserve.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2948184]Have you hit up any of the casas in Laureles? I booked the Laureles suites and will be staying with my buddy, we are planning to hit up the local casas that are 160-200 k COP, with oral natural for 40-70 k extra.[/QUOTE]I don't do casas, but Energy would be your best bet. It is close to Estadio.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2941896]Go to Loutron. The lineup is decent, most girls are in the 7 to 8 range. The place is clean and safe, and is a short uber drive from where you will be staying at. Rates are about 400 mil for 1 HR. I can't think of a better option.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there was February. On a Friday night. There were a lot of girls there, but many were large to extra-large and had a lot of tattoos, silicone titties and piercings. Nothing clean and pure like years ago. So I selected one slim girl with no silicone and thought it would be heaven. In the room she started upselling.
400 k for her meant the base price which covered only a few pokes with a condom. No kissing on the lips unless I paid her extra, 100 mil. I could not DATY unless I paid her another 100 K. Took the fun out of it. No BBBJ. Not sure I will be back. I think the girls have all gotten together and formed a union at Loutron. Nothing real or natural anymore.
Might be better to get a girl from Parque Lleras.
I've been to Medellin about 6 times for maybe a year with the periods added together, but never bothered with Poblado apart from a daytime walk through once. Been put off by all the scare stories and also assumed the hookers walking around in Parque Lleras were all the skinny skanky types! Tend to stick to online chicas for my action.
Anyway, have been watching quite a few YouTube videos of night time walk throughs there, and have been quite impressed! A lot of very curvy and Afro Colombians than I see in Medellin in general and online too. My types!
So, don't want to get scoped or robbed but maybe a good idea is just hang out there an evening getting numbers and invite one to a secure place on another day where they have to show ID.
What kind of prices are they asking for that these days? I suppose the walking girls are all receptive to giving out their numbers? Who to be more wary of, the ones in groups or the one's alone. I fail to believe that the majority of them there are out to scope and rob the punters, or am I wrong? I'm guessing many are Venezuelans, and the Afro Colombians maybe from the Pacific area and Cali etc too? Also, Provenza is also full of gorgeous talent but seems to be more regular people and tourists. Any working girls walking around there too? Can you trust getting. Taxi / Uber from there at night back to Laureles? Never done it. Thanks a lot on advance for your advice 😊.
Poblado has the bars, nightclubs, restaurants and streetwalkers. Everything you need for mongering is in Poblado. It is a good place for new visitors to stay. The downside is that it is a busy noisy place and there are a lot of tourists there. Still for easy access to women, it is a good place to stay. The Park Lleras girls will ask for a lot but you can always negotiate down. People always ask what is the going rate, and I would say that it depends on the girl. Each girl is different and each girl has her own going rate and it depends on the circumstances of that day for her. Just offer what you want to pay and maybe she will accept it.
Laureles has a busy street that has bars, nightclubs and restaurants but it is primarily geared to locals. There are almost no streetwalkers as far as I can tell. There are a few casas within a short Uber ride but they are more expensive than the ones in El Centro.
I have stayed in both places and both are fine. I prefer Laureles because it is more quiet. I prefer girls on Facebook so it doesn't matter where I stay for access to chicas. There are plenty of nice places to eat in Laureles. But if you prefer easy access to girls, it is better for you to stay in Poblado. You can take a Uber over but it takes about 20.
Another option is staying in El Centro. It is more dangerous at night but it does give you easy access to cheap streetwalkers, casas and strip club girls. If that is what you prefer, I think it makes sense for you to stay at the Nutribara Hotel in El Centro and just be careful at night.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2948368]Last time I was there was February. On a Friday night. There were a lot of girls there, but many were large to extra-large and had a lot of tattoos, silicone titties and piercings. Nothing clean and pure like years ago. So I selected one slim girl with no silicone and thought it would be heaven. In the room she started upselling.
400 k for her meant the base price which covered only a few pokes with a condom. No kissing on the lips unless I paid her extra, 100 mil. I could not DATY unless I paid her another 100 K. Took the fun out of it. No BBBJ. Not sure I will be back. I think the girls have all gotten together and formed a union at Loutron. Nothing real or natural anymore.
Might be better to get a girl from Parque Lleras.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report on Loutron. I was thinking I might make it there for my next trip in 2 weeks down there just for the experience of mongering in a luxury place and supposedly the top looking girls in the city. But now that I read this, looks like not worth it anymore.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2948507]Poblado has the bars, nightclubs, restaurants and streetwalkers. Everything you need for mongering is in Poblado. It is a good place for new visitors to stay. The downside is that it is a busy noisy place and there are a lot of tourists there. Still for easy access to women, it is a good place to stay. The Park Lleras girls will ask for a lot but you can always negotiate down. People always ask what is the going rate, and I would say that it depends on the girl. Each girl is different and each girl has her own going rate and it depends on the circumstances of that day for her. Just offer what you want to pay and maybe she will accept it.
Laureles has a busy street that has bars, nightclubs and restaurants but it is primarily geared to locals. There are almost no streetwalkers as far as I can tell. There are a few casas within a short Uber ride but they are more expensive than the ones in El Centro.
I have stayed in both places and both are fine. I prefer Laureles because it is more quiet. I prefer girls on Facebook so it doesn't matter where I stay for access to chicas. There are plenty of nice places to eat in Laureles. But if you prefer easy access to girls, it is better for you to stay in Poblado. You can take a Uber over but it takes about 20.
Another option is staying in El Centro. It is more dangerous at night but it does give you easy access to cheap streetwalkers, casas and strip club girls. If that is what you prefer, I think it makes sense for you to stay at the Nutribara Hotel in El Centro and just be careful at night.[/QUOTE]Hey Moonshot, I'm not sure if you were replying to my post? I think the most I'd pay one is around 200 K for an hour plus her transport. Online chicas I never paid more than 150 K.
I would only stay there maybe a night to check the place out and get phone numbers, as I wouldn't really trust night time taxis and Ubers from there. I always stay in Laureles Estadio, no way would I stay in Poblado!
Where are the good strip clubs in the centre? Any open daytime? Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2948600]Hey Moonshot, I'm not sure if you were replying to my post? I think the most I'd pay one is around 200 K for an hour plus her transport. Online chicas I never paid more than 150 K.
I would only stay there maybe a night to check the place out and get phone numbers, as I wouldn't really trust night time taxis and Ubers from there. I always stay in Laureles Estadio, no way would I stay in Poblado!
Where are the good strip clubs in the centre? Any open daytime? Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I didn't want to engage on a discussion on the so-called going rate because there is a difference of opinion and you will get different answers. I only say this, based on my own personal experience with online girls. Yes, you can try to get girls for 150 k and some will accept but you also get a lot of young attractive girls saying that it is too low. 200 k to 300 k plus taxi is the offer that usually gets the most successful.
There are a lot of good strip clubs in El Centro where you can have sex with the girls inside the club for a much lower price but I am not the right person for that type of information.
Silicone has always been a star of the show at Loutron.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2948586]Thanks for your report on Loutron. I was thinking I might make it there for my next trip in 2 weeks down there just for the experience of mongering in a luxury place and supposedly the top looking girls in the city. But now that I read this, looks like not worth it anymore.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2948586]Thanks for your report on Loutron. ... a luxury place and supposedly the top looking girls in the city. [/QUOTE]I would no longer say it has the top looking girls in the city. A lot of trashy, tattooed and silicone. And a lot of fat asses. You will see a presentation of probably 25 girls and they give you a small notebook and pencil to write down the ones you like.
But nothing like the legend was 10 years ago, but it has ended. I started coming to Medellin in 2003 which is now 20 year ago, before that I went to Cali and visited the matrimonial agencies and Flora Frescas, which was the top club in the 1990's.
10 years ago Loutron had the top girls and individual rooms that had different emphasis and decor. Now you see typical Medellin women, not much Venezuelans. Like I said, I think the girls had a union and its only Colombian women. And they talk about their money making, upcharge, strategies more than we do on this site!
I would recommend Parque Lleras. You can look around, and the Venies are attractive too. Your mileage may vary. I used to visit Abydos on Calle 33, what happened to that? I heard it was owned by the same guy that owned Loutron, and the classier girls worked at Loutron, the normal, yet attractive, lower price girls at Abydos. Any word about Abydos?
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2948815]I would no longer say it has the top looking girls in the city. A lot of trashy, tattooed and silicone. And a lot of fat asses. You will see a presentation of probably 25 girls and they give you a small notebook and pencil to write down the ones you like.
10 years ago Loutron had the top girls and individual rooms that had different emphasis and decor. Now you see typical Medellin women, not much Venezuelans. Like I said, I think the girls had a union and its only Colombian women. And they talk about their money making, upcharge, strategies more than we do on this site!
I would recommend Parque Lleras. You can look around, and the Venies are attractive too. Your mileage may vary. I used to visit Abydos on Calle 33, what happened to that? I heard it was owned by the same guy that owned Loutron, and the classier girls worked at Loutron, the normal, yet attractive, lower price girls at Abydos. Any word about Abydos?[/QUOTE]Pretty sure Abydos closed a few years back. It was a solid place, similar in quality and experience to Energy in Estadio.
I never understood the appeal of Loutron. Very sterile atmosphere where you couldn't interact with the chicas and when you got to the room, total upsell. One shouldn't pay what they ask for that type of experience. I tried it once in 2010 and was disappointed and tried a few years later and it still sucked.
Yes, sadly, Abydos has been gone for more than 10 years. It was a favorite of mine because of its convenient location and superior product. Energy used to be similar. Now it is a rundown shadow of its former self. The rooms and public areas used to be better maintained and the used to be of Abydos quality and better. Now, they are mostly of the quality you find at Centro casas albeit with slightly better grooming. I've written previously about the no name place next door to Energy. It operates as a private motel for indie girls who advertise appointments on mileroticos and photoprepagos, and also as a casa with walk-in and choose from the lineup service. There is much better bang for the buck there than there is at Energy.
[QUOTE=Combo;2948933]Pretty sure Abydos closed a few years back. It was a solid place, similar in quality and experience to Energy in Estadio.
I never understood the appeal of Loutron. Very sterile atmosphere where you couldn't interact with the chicas and when you got to the room, total upsell. One shouldn't pay what they ask for that type of experience. I tried it once in 2010 and was disappointed and tried a few years later and it still sucked.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2948815]........ I used to visit Abydos on Calle 33, what happened to that? I heard it was owned by the same guy that owned Loutron, and the classier girls worked at Loutron, the normal, yet attractive, lower price girls at Abydos. Any word about Abydos?[/QUOTE]I used to go to Abydos back in the day when fine girls were to be had in casas and Abydos had the best of them. Then Abydos began to decline in quality as did other casas but Abydos decline was also in quantity. In a visit to Medellin, possibly 2016, there were three girls there including an amazing girl called Susan with whom I repeated which was a first for me in Medellin. Then on my last visit that year she was gone and there was one woman there who I would not rate more than 5 and after I declined her the mamasan attempted to charge me 10 K for viewing LOL, that's when I knew they were on their way out. Later I heard they closed down.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2948482] What kind of prices are they asking for that these days? I suppose the walking girls are all receptive to giving out their numbers? …
and the Afro Colombians maybe from the Pacific area and Cali etc too?[/QUOTE]My experience is that most started at 100 dollar, some would ask 150. You can negotiate them down most of the time. The Afro Colombians I met are all from Medellin. I think there is one particular barrio has more of them. On FB, most are from the same region around Bello. There are more girls from the poor barrios in other part of Medellin at the park.
The Uber is fine.
Thanks to everyone who has shared reports. I just finished 3 nights in MDE. I stayed in Poblado in an AirBnB called Urban Suites. It's away from the noise but a short walk or Uber to Provenza.
I set up advance dates on Tinder with civilians. I avoided those looking for mutual benefits and the SB crowd. I met each for dinner followed by stops at clubs. I would pick up their cab fare but didn't pay them otherwise.
Day 1 I tried to get an Uber to a casa at 4 pm to do a trio (300 K for an hour) but I couldn't get a ride in time. I ended up a a decent restaurant in Poblado with a 40 yo local. It went ok but I didn't want a one nighter with her and sent her home.
Day 2 was a trip to Parque Arvi and some biking. I hit a casa in between for 30 minutes with BBBJ for 150 k. It was on par with similar places in Panama and Costa Rica. The girl here was early 20's slim an natural.
Day 3 was a crazy 12 hour tour to do zipline, waterfall hike and climbing. I went with a local 30 ish personal trainer I met on tinder. She is fun sized and fit. We spent the night at the apartment. I paid the expenses of the day and gave her a modest silver bracelet. We got along in spite of my crappy Spanish.
I'm making plans to return in November for a weekend away with personal trainer. Overall it was a good first visit to scope the place out. I felt safe everywhere except Centro. I spent one evening in Provenza but that scene is not for me.
Tinder worked for me. All 3 showed up and each was cool with meeting again if I wanted. I had a million hits on seeking but I hate that mindset where you are paying her a salary even for the first meeting.
[QUOTE=Combo;2948933]
I never understood the appeal of Loutron. Very sterile atmosphere where you couldn't interact with the chicas and when you got to the room, total upsell.[/QUOTE]Last few times I have been to Loutron I noticed a soft spot in the floor, right before the reception desk. Thought I would fall thru, like a trap door. The plywood and sub floor is extremely soft in front of the desk, probably from too many heavy Americanos standing there! LOL Anybody else notice that spot in the floor? The building used to be a mansion, now the whole concept has gone trashy. But it is nice to see the 25 available women parade in front of me, for my selection!
[QUOTE=Nounce;2949111]My experience is that most started at 100 dollar, some would ask 150. You can negotiate them down most of the time. The Afro Colombians I met are all from Medellin. I think there is one particular barrio has more of them. On FB, most are from the same region around Bello. There are more girls from the poor barrios in other part of Medellin at the park.
The Uber is fine.[/QUOTE]Wow, 100 USD for an hour is definitely gringo pricing! The average internet lady in Medellin charges around 150 K (36 USD) pesos an hour, the most gorgeous ones say 250 K (60 USD). I can have a nice looking hooker here in Europe for 100 USD! Will go check them out anyway, most I'd offer one who I found stunning would be 250 K. Are you sure the Afro Colombians you met are from Medellin, or is that just what they said ? Have been to Medellin many times and the Afro Colombians make up maybe 5 % of the people I see around. I'm sure many I've seen in Parque Lleras videos are from further afield, like Choco, Cali and Venezuela too.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2948156]That was a novel LOL.
First, I haven't been to Gusto's since 2018 or so, but I am surprised that it's now $250-$300 starting and so many guys are paying that. I remember when it was $60-$80 not long ago! Maybe $100-$120 all night and theyd stay until noon. Also, it's one thing to pay that if you're visiting for a 3 day weekend and another when you live there and can visit so many other venues. I encourage you to explore.
Second, I wouldn't think it's very hard to get a girl to go bare for a 200 k ($50) upcharge. That's a total score of $300-$350 (including original fee) for them! The working mothers need it for their kids. The forum can attest. If you're still in your 20s that can also add up, but Im not a monger that will tell another where to spend his coin and Im sure you're doing very well I just laugh as I see so many $60,000 millionaires from the states blowing their money in MDE like theres no tomorrow.
Last, I would NEVER bust in a girl unless older and clipped. Even if clean, I've heard way too many stories of girls blackmailing guys or having 'accidental' surprises that they were then legally or ethically obligated to support. Just the same as the OnlyFans models trying to get knocked up by NBA and NFL players these days. I can't tell you how many girls have told me they wanted to have my kid after a few dates.
Be careful![/QUOTE]I must specify these are top girls who probably make about 300 dollars plus, 4-5 times a week which is a lot in Medellin. Especially since it's all cash, and not one of them pays taxes on it. And they all have at least one guy in love with them, that buys them their phone, clothes etc. Thus, I think 50 dollars is on the low end for BBFS creampie. I have a buddy, tall white average looking dude, he was telling me he offered some gustos chicks an extra 200 dollars on top of the 300 $ toda la noche and they wouldn't budge on the no condom. I think for the hardened pros in Gustos it's not that easy, especially the top girls who like I said make a lot already.
That being said, of course the circumstances matter, if a girls mom / kid is sick / bills are piling up etc. Then she is for sure more willing to accept, or if you look like Jason Mamoa obvi.
For top colombian insta models / onlyfans / webcam chicks / semi-influencers, you have to play the long game to fuck raw. I have super rich buddies that take these girls out and stupidly / impatiently. Try to go raw on the first date and it completely turns the chick off and make her not want to see you again a high percentage of the time also she will tell all her friends you asked. Or you just won't ever go raw with her because she now thinks you ask every single girl that on the first date, even on subsequent dates. The two chicks I mentioned as well as some regular girls I met off tinder have said the same. "We went to dinner had so much fun, having some drinks, I'm down to fuck, and he has to ruin it and ask if he can sin condon".
For this super hot DJ I was following for a like two years, I finally got her to respond to a DM on insta with a sugar baby offer. Invited her to dinner, we had some followers in common so she cross-referenced me. That mutual friend told me she asked about me. That If I knew her and was I real / cool / legit etc. So be aware not to brush anyone the wrong way.
Go on a great dinner date establish a rate and go back to my place. We're making out, I'm fingering her she's drenched. I'm like 85% sure I can go raw either by asking or just slipping it in while kissing. But I want to 100% creampie this chick. So I play the long game. I take a step back, put on a condom and bend her over. I'm watching her out of the corner of my eye while I do this. I can see a little smile. (at a later date she told me she liked that I respected her and her health on our first date, and how so many guys try to go raw) She perks up bends over and spreads for me. I fuck her she's loving it. I am too even with the bag we finish and all go home happy.
Fast forward to the next weekend, we had chatted a bunch all week, she agrees to come over and watch a movie on a Saturday. I'm giving her the full BF treatment, I make us drinks while I cook these signature little burgers, I just copy Gordon Ramsey's video on youtube. I got it down to a T. She's super impressed and LOVES the burgers. We're watching Jon wick.
Again I'm trying to be cool and more like BF. Not a guy that just wants to bang her and give her cash. She puts her leg on mine, I'm feeling her legs we give each other little pecks on the cheeks here and there. She's wearing this little white floral dress, almost like a teddy. As I feel her legs up and raise her dress up a bit, I notice she's not wearing any panties. Super hot, she gives me a little smile. I eat her out until she cums, which is like 6 minutes. We both start to undress, she give a quick BJ But I just want to fuck. She's on all 4's on the bed giving me head while I'm standing off to the side. I push her away for a second, I reach for a new box of condoms on the nightstand. As I'm unwrapping and pulling one out of the box. She puts her hand over mine, shakes her head and says "no". Ladies and gentlemen that might be the top 3 hardest I've ever been in my life. At that moment I wanted to shove it in and go to town, I would have lasted a total of 30 seconds for sure. But Again trying to be cool (I do not want her telling her friends I'm a one pump chump) and a bit more cute and innocent. Make her feel special.
I pull her in close for a kiss and go "Esta bien bebe?" Is it okay baby? She responds with "Yo confio en ti" I trust you.
I lay her back, I'm rubbing my dick on her clit, she's squirming and going crazy, the dirty talk ensues. It's better this way right? She squirms and squeaks out a "Siii".
I've had a lot of raw pussy, in terms of pure feeling she was alright, but she's insanely hot so the visuals of her made up for the average feeling pussy.
While fucking I kept whispering in her ear if she wanted this on the first date. She says yes, I liked that you didn't ask for it. I respond Would you have let me? She goes, if you asked first, no, but had you pulled out and just slipped off the condom in front of me, then went back in, I wouldn't have said anything.
She's going crazy, saying how she loves the feel. She practically got her tongue in my esophagus. She starts saying she's going to cum. That pushes me over the edge. She starts saying "cum in my pussy daddy" in Spanish of course. I painted every square inch of her walls. I go to pull out she crosses her legs and says she wants to stay like that a little while. She held me for ten minutes while we just talked and kissed. I went fully soft in her.
At a certain point she said let's shower, I say not yet, and start pumping again. She's like wait let me clean up first I'm all yucky. I say NO, she blushes and gets all embarrassed, saying it's dirty, but that's how I like it. We've destroyed the sheets, She's leaking out and creaming all over me. She looks down and goes bright red. When she sees my dick churning her up. I kiss her and tell her I like her, get another creampie and we finally clean up.
Have never worn a condom with her since. I have similar stories for most top girls like that. If I'm not too interested in her I will try to go bare on the first date. If I really want to raw-dog her, I'll play the long game.
To be honest with some of the top girls like the DJ, Honestly might sound crazy, but fuck it I can't resist creampieing them (all the chicks I creampie are smokeshows.). Every fiber of my being wants too. I understand the risk. If she got pregnant oh well, a super hot baby mama isn't the worst thing in this world, now an ugly one on the other hand.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2949136]Wow, 100 USD for an hour is definitely gringo pricing! The average internet lady in Medellin charges around 150 K (36 USD) pesos an hour, the most gorgeous ones say 250 K (60 USD). I can have a nice looking hooker here in Europe for 100 USD! Will go check them out anyway, most I'd offer one who I found stunning would be 250 K. Are you sure the Afro Colombians you met are from Medellin, or is that just what they said ? Have been to Medellin many times and the Afro Colombians make up maybe 5 % of the people I see around. I'm sure many I've seen in Parque Lleras videos are from further afield, like Choco, Cali and Venezuela too.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't we all like to live in a world where you can find stunning girls, which I would think would be 9's and 10's, for 250 k. And while you are at it, why not try for all night for that 250 k? For guys who say they are getting 9's and 10's in Medellin for 250 k, I would say that you need to look at the pictures of these so-called stunners willing to accept 250 k and it just might be a difference of opinon as to what qualifies as a stunningly beautiful girl and then it makes more sense.
Your description is more in line with the Medellin I know. That said, in every case YMMV.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2949136]Wow, 100 USD for an hour is definitely gringo pricing! The average internet lady in Medellin charges around 150 K (36 USD) pesos an hour, the most gorgeous ones say 250 K (60 USD). I can have a nice looking hooker here in Europe for 100 USD! Will go check them out anyway, most I'd offer one who I found stunning would be 250 K. Are you sure the Afro Colombians you met are from Medellin, or is that just what they said ? Have been to Medellin many times and the Afro Colombians make up maybe 5 % of the people I see around. I'm sure many I've seen in Parque Lleras videos are from further afield, like Choco, Cali and Venezuela too.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2949212]Your description is more in line with the Medellin I know. That said, in every case YMMV.[/QUOTE]Yea I agree as well about 150 k is the going rate. $200 - $300 usd is absurd. I don't care if the hoe looks. Like Miss Venezuela she's not getting that kind of money out of me. I wouldn't even want to talk to a stick up ***** like the ones Mateo is describing that is not what Medellin is about.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2948156]That was a novel LOL.
First, I haven't been to Gusto's since 2018 or so, but I am surprised that it's now $250-$300 starting and so many guys are paying that. I remember when it was $60-$80 not long ago! Maybe $100-$120 all night and theyd stay until noon. Also, it's one thing to pay that if you're visiting for a 3 day weekend and another when you live there and can visit so many other venues. I encourage you to explore.
Second, I wouldn't think it's very hard to get a girl to go bare for a 200 k ($50) upcharge. That's a total score of $300-$350 (including original fee) for them! The working mothers need it for their kids. The forum can attest. If you're still in your 20s that can also add up, but Im not a monger that will tell another where to spend his coin and Im sure you're doing very well I just laugh as I see so many $60,000 millionaires from the states blowing their money in MDE like theres no tomorrow. [/QUOTE]Forgot to add what the first girl looks like, she looks very much like Justinejuicyy on insta.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2949194]Wouldn't we all like to live in a world where you can find stunning girls, which I would think would be 9's and 10's, for 250 k. And while you are at it, why not try for all night for that 250 k? For guys who say they are getting 9's and 10's in Medellin for 250 k, I would say that you need to look at the pictures of these so-called stunners willing to accept 250 k and it just might be a difference of opinon as to what qualifies as a stunningly beautiful girl and then it makes more sense.[/QUOTE]I agree. Any young girl would be a 9 or 10 if you are sex deprived average John from Oklahoma who finally divorced his 300 lbs whale wife. Some guys here need a reality check.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2949296]Yea I agree as well about 150 k is the going rate. $200 - $300 usd is absurd. I don't care if the hoe looks. Like Miss Venezuela she's not getting that kind of money out of me. I wouldn't even want to talk to a stick up ***** like the ones Mateo is describing that is not what Medellin is about.[/QUOTE]150 k is the going rate for the fuglies you fuck. And yes, you have a reputation of fucking fuglies, midgets, diseased, etc. Just accept the fact that 200-300 usd is unaffordable for you. 300 usd is twice the amount you pay for rent per month.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2949365]150 k is the going rate for the fuglies you fuck. And yes, you have a reputation of fucking fuglies, midgets, diseased, etc. Just accept the fact that 200-300 usd is unaffordable for you. 300 usd is twice the amount you pay for rent per month.[/QUOTE]It's not that I can't afford to pay $300 usd, you idiot. It's that I'd rather use that money to make investments like the KO dividend stock I just purchased in my Fidelity app.
And by the way it's more than twice my monthly rent for my apartment in Medellin, I pay $540 k COP per month which is $128.57 usd at the current exchange rate. Since when did keeping my expenses low and disposable income high become a bad thing?
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2949365]150 k is the going rate for the fuglies you fuck. And yes, you have a reputation of fucking fuglies, midgets, diseased, etc. Just accept the fact that 200-300 usd is unaffordable for you. 300 usd is twice the amount you pay for rent per month.[/QUOTE]I've only had a handful of girls I would consider pretty for 200-300 k. And this is because I met them through acquaintances. Two of them were a sister and a cousin of a girl I was seeing. They Dmd me after seeing what I was doing for their sister / cousin etc. I would have paid 400 k-500 k easy for each, but I low-balled them since they didn't know any better. Essentially take them to eat, then fuck BBFS creampie.
I would be hard pressed to see anything I want to bang under 400 k it's like mining for gold. As an example I don't find any of the Saturday night parque Lleras streetwalkers attractive. I might see one I like in a blue moon. But I still almost never pick them, much better options out there. My standard grandfathered rates are between 400-600 k for most of my roster. That's at least two hours and BBFS.
For super top chicks I'm meeting for the first time they can charge between 700 k 1 hour to - 2 millon minimum (4 hours included) and I would say that's on the lower end, because I'm younger, dress well etc and get these connects through mutuals.
These are all chick with onlyfans or like 50 k-800 k on insta. You see the lifestyle they live and understand why it's this price. Their BF just bought them a Macbook air and a gold chain on their weekend trip to San Andres. You think you're going to bang girls of that caliber for 200 k?? I've seen one of these chicks turn down a fat old dude offering 2000 usd for a few hours at a hotel. She showed me the messages the guy was legit. I think it's funny how dudes talk about 9's and 10's for 100 k in el centro. Just ignore them, they always say its subjective, but you are spot on, it's old dudes who have never banged truely beautiful women. A 3/10 19 yo chick is a 10'10 to some fat bald dude in his 60's.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2949136] I can have a nice looking hooker here in Europe for 100 USD! [/QUOTE]WTF are you talking about? I may need to expand my experience in Eastern Europe or something, but this is such a big lie that I can't take anything else seriously. I've mongered in London, Rome, FKKs in Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, and France and I have never seen any mid-tier, top-tier escort offering $100/ pop. Yes, there exist women in any country that charge bottom-tier prices, but they are not the type of people that mongers sampling foreign cuisine are looking for. People that use arbitrage mechanics through foreign travel are usually folks that are looking for better quality experiences that would normally cost top dollar in their home country. They are generally not hunting for local crack addicts and uglies since that is readily available at bargain bin prices in their locality.
For example, most London escort agencies (mid-tier) are charging 300 pounds per hour. Window girls in Amsterdam might cost like 100 Euros but those are bang / dash joints similar to Centro which would make it majorly overpriced in Colombia. Now, I could be wrong about all of this, I admit. If so, please enlighten all of us to this source of hot hookers in Europe who only charge $100 because I'm sure a lot of us would like to partake.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2949370]It's not that I can't afford to pay $300 usd, you idiot. It's that I'd rather use that money to make investments like the KO dividend stock I just purchased in my Fidelity app.
And by the way it's more than twice my monthly rent for my apartment in Medellin, I pay $540 k COP per month which is $128.57 usd at the current exchange rate. Since when did keeping my expenses low and disposable income high become a bad thing?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is exactly what I said. You can't afford a $300 girl. Just like you can't afford a nicer apartment. It is obvious that you want to stretch your limited budget for as long as possible.
And your $300 "investment" is a joke.
[QUOTE=MateoCast98;2949361]Forgot to add what the first girl looks like, she looks very much like Justinejuicyy on insta.[/QUOTE]Justine is fat, wouldn't do her for free.
The price debate has run its course. Let's please move on, please and thank you.
Met a paisa from photoprepago, heavily photoshopped pics but it was her. Just not supermodel status but very pretty and girl next door vibe.
I don't like to negotiate pricing when we're talking $40-$75 usd for an hour.
Some of you act like you arent penny pinching, but there is a girl for whatever you want to spend.
She comes over 90 min after we agreed even though she wanted to early.
Danced for a while, BBBJ with the best eye contact I could want. All over the boys. Nothing left untouched.
Sex was amazing. Making out, she's gripping, super warm kitty, riding me like a cowgirl. Crazy sensual.
Speak in spanish for a while while I recharge. Then I'm ready and mid convo I just put her hand on me, and she springs into action.
I ask where I can leave my leche, she says wherever you want, so next round was BBBJCIM which was amazing.
Should prob call her again. Agreed to 2 hours plus uber, it was almost 3 hrs.
Now this part gets everyone all flustered. 750 K for the evening.
Thats still under $200 USD for everything I could have asked for. Safe, cool, down to earth sincere chica who wants to please.
I've also had incredible experiences for $250 K an HR, so it exists, and when I think of the average spend amongst the chicas, it's totally reasonable.
Have yet to do lleras so I need to try and scope talent bc Internet chicas are hit or miss looks wise sometimes.
Any one have experience with Malca. Modelos a lacarta? Its a higher end agency.
Definitely curious.
And anybody have tips on how to find girls willing to shoot a "scene" with me?
Most don't want photos or if yes then no face in photos. I knoe some have done full videos here with chicas.
Definitely want some for the memory bank.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2949194]Wouldn't we all like to live in a world where you can find stunning girls, which I would think would be 9's and 10's, for 250 k. And while you are at it, why not try for all night for that 250 k? For guys who say they are getting 9's and 10's in Medellin for 250 k, I would say that you need to look at the pictures of these so-called stunners willing to accept 250 k and it just might be a difference of opinon as to what qualifies as a stunningly beautiful girl and then it makes more sense.[/QUOTE]LOL Indeed. Not too long ago I f*cked my first 10. I mean I've had my fair share of hot girls but never felt she was actually a 10, I always felt like the hottest ones were 9's or 9.5's. But not too long ago I met this girl at La Isla and when I laid my eyes on her I knew this was the hottest working girl I've ever seen. Her body and face were just 100% perfect. The sex, as expected, was nothing special but also not super robotic and I was ok with that, her extremely sexy looks and body made up for that. After that we talked about outgoing and she pulled out a printed pricelist out of her purse, LOL, which started at 1.2 million for just an hour. And I'm sure she had enough clients paying that. Also didn't see her after that night again at La Isla.
No way a girl like that is selling her pussy for 250 k LOL.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;2949482]LOL Indeed. Not too long ago I f*cked my first 10. I mean I've had my fair share of hot girls but never felt she was actually a 10, I always felt like the hottest ones were 9's or 9. 5's. But not too long ago I met this girl at La Isla and when I laid my eyes on her I knew this was the hottest working girl I've ever seen. Her body and face were just 100% perfect. The sex, as expected, was nothing special but also not super robotic and I was ok with that, her extremely sexy looks and body made up for that. After that we talked about outgoing and she pulled out a printed pricelist out of her purse, LOL, which started at 1.2 million for just an hour. And I'm sure she had enough clients paying that. Also didn't see her after that night again at La Isla.
No way a girl like that is selling her pussy for 250 k LOL.[/QUOTE]The thing is true stunners, real 9's and 10's are so scarce even in Colombia. Most of the girls of this caliber are not publicly available for p4 p. So, there is really no market for 9's and 10's, and therefore no going rates. They try to charge whatever they can, and eventually find someone willing to pay that. My understanding is that they would rather prefer an exclusive long term arrangement with 1 wealthy guy (or a few guys) than PPM and fucking multiple strangers. And even if they do PPM, usually it is temporary thing until they find someone who will take care of them financially. You got to be really lucky to catch a 9 or 10 at a place like La Isla or Gusto, or some higher end club in Bogota. What funny is I had a similar experience. I fucked my very first 9 at La Isla back in 2016. The girl had six pack abs and could easily be Sports Illustrated / Playboy model. Sex was just okay, all covered, but that was expected because it is standard at La Isla.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2949425]WTF are you talking about? I may need to expand my experience in Eastern Europe or something, but this is such a big lie that I can't take anything else seriously. I've mongered in London, Rome, FKKs in Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, and France and I have never seen any mid-tier, top-tier escort offering $100/ pop. Yes, there exist women in any country that charge bottom-tier prices, but they are not the type of people that mongers sampling foreign cuisine are looking for. People that use arbitrage mechanics through foreign travel are usually folks that are looking for better quality experiences that would normally cost top dollar in their home country. They are generally not hunting for local crack addicts and uglies since that is readily available at bargain bin prices in their locality.
For example, most London escort agencies (mid-tier) are charging 300 pounds per hour. Window girls in Amsterdam might cost like 100 Euros but those are bang / dash joints similar to Centro which would make it majorly overpriced in Colombia. Now, I could be wrong about all of this, I admit. If so, please enlighten all of us to this source of hot hookers in Europe who only charge $100 because I'm sure a lot of us would like to partake.[/QUOTE]Like I said, I mainly partake in chicas who advertise online in Colombia on sites such as Prepagos and Mileroticos. Some are gorgeous, most charge around 130 - 150 K per hour, NONE charge more than 250 K. So all the chat on here about prices you guys find normal of hundreds of USD per hour is just on another planet for me, about screwing influencers and Instagram models etc. Who gives a crap about that? If they're sexy and you want to screw them is all that matters! I guess many guys who go to Lleras etc can't speak Spanish either. Any hooker in Colombia who straight off speaks English to me, I would run a mile from!
So anyway, this has enlightened me more to why I probably wouldn't like Lleras. It's only sex after all and I'm not interested in paying more than their monthly rent for an hour of sex!
Re. Europe, you're quoting some of the most expensive cities such as London. OK, so actually slightly more than 100 USD these days in Belgium, more like 80 for 30 minutes and 130 an hour for an internet lady. And Germany is even cheaper than Belgium, as salaries are lower. And if you see ones that cost more online in Belgium or Germany, you're looking at the wrong websites. The ones full of fake photos, supposed models and porn stars etc. They're the worst. Same goes for Colombia.
So why the hell would I pay more in a country like Colombia (where salaries are 1/10th of Belgium if they're lucky!) than I would in Belgium or Germany ?
Mentioning Eastern Europe, I used to work and monger in Budapest. I had some of the most gorgeous hookers there and best sex in my life for peanuts, like 20 - 30 an hour for the best looking internet ladies. But that was 10 years back, now they're still relatively cheap but quantity & quality has gone way down.
So anyway, I'll check out Lleras, but if I get quoted amounts I deem crazy for a poorish country where availability is plentiful, I'll just walk on.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2949433]
And your $300 "investment" is a joke.[/QUOTE]I think, and I'm sure many others would agree, that the real joke is you spending $300 for an hour of sex. Poof it's gone.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2949491]Like I said, I mainly partake in chicas who advertise online in Colombia on sites such as Prepagos and Mileroticos. Some are gorgeous, most charge around 130 - 150 K per hour, NONE charge more than 250 K. So all the chat on here about prices you guys find normal of hundreds of USD per hour is just on another planet for me, about screwing influencers and Instagram models etc. Who gives a crap about that? If they're sexy and you want to screw them is all that matters! I guess many guys who go to Lleras etc can't speak Spanish either. Any hooker in Colombia who straight off speaks English to me, I would run a mile from!
So anyway, this has enlightened me more to why I probably wouldn't like Lleras. It's only sex after all and I'm not interested in paying more than their monthly rent for an hour of sex!
Re. Europe, you're quoting some of the most expensive cities such as London. OK, so actually slightly more than 100 USD these days in Belgium, more like 80 for 30 minutes and 130 an hour for an internet lady. And Germany is even cheaper than Belgium, as salaries are lower. And if you see ones that cost more online in Belgium or Germany, you're looking at the wrong websites. The ones full of fake photos, supposed models and porn stars etc. They're the worst. Same goes for Colombia.
So why the hell would I pay more in a country like Colombia (where salaries are 1/10th of Belgium if they're lucky!) than I would in Belgium or Germany ?
Mentioning Eastern Europe, I used to work and monger in Budapest. I had some of the most gorgeous hookers there and best sex in my life for peanuts, like 20 - 30 an hour for the best looking internet ladies. But that was 10 years back, now they're still relatively cheap but quantity & quality has gone way down.
So anyway, I'll check out Lleras, but if I get quoted amounts I deem crazy for a poorish country where availability is plentiful, I'll just walk on.[/QUOTE]No sense talking to these guys that live to overpay. They will never understand anything about the real world.
On another note isn't the cheap place in Europe actually Hungary?
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2949490]The thing is true stunners, real 9's and 10's are so scarce even in Colombia. Most of the girls of this caliber are not publicly available for p4 p. So, there is really no market for 9's and 10's, and therefore no going rates. They try to charge whatever they can, and eventually find someone willing to pay that. My understanding is that they would rather prefer an exclusive long term arrangement with 1 wealthy guy (or a few guys) than PPM and fucking multiple strangers. And even if they do PPM, usually it is temporary thing until they find someone who will take care of them financially. You got to be really lucky to catch a 9 or 10 at a place like La Isla or Gusto, or some higher end club in Bogota. What funny is I had a similar experience. I fucked my very first 9 at La Isla back in 2016. The girl had six pack abs and could easily be Sports Illustrated / Playboy model. Sex was just okay, all covered, but that was expected because it is standard at La Isla.[/QUOTE]If she's got a six pack she'd never be higher than a 6 in my book. Throw the poor thing a sandwich or something!
If you're paying like $300-400 USD honestly you may as well just stay in the US already!
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2949491]Like I said, I mainly partake in chicas who advertise online in Colombia on sites such as Prepagos and Mileroticos. Some are gorgeous, most charge around 130 - 150 K per hour, NONE charge more than 250 K. So all the chat on here about prices you guys find normal of hundreds of USD per hour is just on another planet for me, about screwing influencers and Instagram models etc. Who gives a crap about that? If they're sexy and you want to screw them is all that matters! I guess many guys who go to Lleras etc can't speak Spanish either. Any hooker in Colombia who straight off speaks English to me, I would run a mile from!
So anyway, this has enlightened me more to why I probably wouldn't like Lleras. It's only sex after all and I'm not interested in paying more than their monthly rent for an hour of sex!
Re. Europe, you're quoting some of the most expensive cities such as London. OK, so actually slightly more than 100 USD these days in Belgium, more like 80 for 30 minutes and 130 an hour for an internet lady. And Germany is even cheaper than Belgium, as salaries are lower. And if you see ones that cost more online in Belgium or Germany, you're looking at the wrong websites. The ones full of fake photos, supposed models and porn stars etc. They're the worst. Same goes for Colombia.
So why the hell would I pay more in a country like Colombia (where salaries are 1/10th of Belgium if they're lucky!) than I would in Belgium or Germany ?
Mentioning Eastern Europe, I used to work and monger in Budapest. I had some of the most gorgeous hookers there and best sex in my life for peanuts, like 20 - 30 an hour for the best looking internet ladies. But that was 10 years back, now they're still relatively cheap but quantity & quality has gone way down.
So anyway, I'll check out Lleras, but if I get quoted amounts I deem crazy for a poorish country where availability is plentiful, I'll just walk on.[/QUOTE]The chicas on 10th and in Lleras and nearby will be expecting more than you are used to, that is virtually certain. But not a bad evening to take in the scenery, relax on a patio or two, get something to eat on the closed off street in Provenza, and maybe get some numbers as you say. Some may consider your price range to come to see you or whatever. But be very careful. Many of these gals are outfitted with the drug kit that they can use if they get the opportunity. They drug the client, call their contact, let the contact (s) in and collect their reward, and the contact takes care of the dirty work. Or they take part. You get the picture. And that happens in Laureles as well. I think the body count is well over 40 this year, and those are the very small minority of those druggings that result in death. There are hundreds, possibly thousands, that are robberies. So especially when you are in your own place in private never have an open drink, and preferably have building security that takes pictures of their cedulas, and preferably checks with you when the girl leaves to be sure you are ok. Anyway, you are likely familiar with all of that if you date chicas off social media. Tinder is the worst apparently.
[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2949561]If you're paying like $300-400 USD honestly you may as well just stay in the US already![/QUOTE]If you spend that kind of money on some random Lleras girl, of course. But if you spend it on a girl that could easily model for playboy, like we're talking about, you won't get that for $300 in the USA. Starts at $1000+ an hour.
I don't like Lleras myself, don't like the talent here, most girls there I wouldn't even f*ck for free. Let alone el centro like Gabacho visits to pick up some random stinking animal and proudly posts here how little money he paid.
It's literally the difference between eating at Mc Donalds and Joel Robuchon. If you think spending $500 on a meal there sounds stupid, then that's perfectly fine, enjoy your $5 hamburger. But don't tell me life is better that way. To each their own.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2949455]Has anyone ever wondered what happened to "Osteoknot"? He used to be a prolific poster here and has not made an appearance since over 2 years ago.[/QUOTE]His stories were incredibly entertaining. I stopped reading ISG reports after he disappeared. I hope he's okay. I always felt he was pushing the limits by venturing into places even most Colombians wouldn't dare to go.
His stories were highly entertaining. I stopped reading his reports after he disappeared. I hope he is ok. I always thought he was pushing it to the limit by going places than a Colombian would dare of going.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2949636]The chicas on 10th and in Lleras and nearby will be expecting more than you are used to, that is virtually certain. But not a bad evening to take in the scenery, relax on a patio or two, get something to eat on the closed off street in Provenza, and maybe get some numbers as you say. Some may consider your price range to come to see you or whatever. But be very careful. Many of these gals are outfitted with the drug kit that they can use if they get the opportunity. They drug the client, call their contact, let the contact (s) in and collect their reward, and the contact takes care of the dirty work. Or they take part. You get the picture. And that happens in Laureles as well. I think the body count is well over 40 this year, and those are the very small minority of those druggings that result in death. There are hundreds, possibly thousands, that are robberies. So especially when you are in your own place in private never have an open drink, and preferably have building security that takes pictures of their cedulas, and preferably checks with you when the girl leaves to be sure you are ok. Anyway, you are likely familiar with all of that if you date chicas off social media. Tinder is the worst apparently.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your advice. I'm probably just feeling horny in Europe seeing the videos of Lleras etc, once I get there I'll be sensible. Never done anything dumb before there, not about to start now. Don't date any chicks from social media. Going to see one advertised as a hooker online with her photo & address, or at a Casa with other working girls is probably the safest sex you can have in Colombia! The way I do it.
Are they going to drug you at their own place where they sleep? When you have their photo etc? Don't think so, done it hundreds of times never had a problem.
I'll do like you said, go to Lleras for the evening and maybe take a few numbers. If I decided to pull the trigger I'd never invite them to my place, but to a motel just made for that. The reception holds their cedula, and I would make a point of only taking with me the basics of what I need. Cash for them and my burner phone. No bank cards, no original ID etc. I'd also tell them that so there's no point robbing me. But that's all theory anyway because whether or not I'd take the risk on one is another question. We'll see 😉.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;2949641]If you spend that kind of money on some random Lleras girl, of course. But if you spend it on a girl that could easily model for playboy, like we're talking about, you won't get that for $300 in the USA. Starts at $1000+ an hour.[/QUOTE]I agree, but the death of Colombia is that women in Canada who look just as good are cheaper, and there is similar quality for less in Europe.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;2949641]If you think spending $500 on a meal there sounds stupid, then that's perfectly fine, enjoy your $5 hamburger. But don't tell me life is better that way. To each their own.[/QUOTE]Thing is that same steak was $125 three years ago, and the guys who live there are a little frustrated with that kind of inflation. I understand that. They are wrong to blame other men, but people always want to point fingers. Ironically, what caused hooker prices in part to soar in the USA, a legal crack down, is happening in Colombia.
And there is the other thing: what the guys do not get is the cure for high prices is high prices. There are better values to be had in the world now than in Colombia on the high end. If you want value, you have to plant roots, go to places other tourists do not go, or settle for the low end. I think the guys here want you to know that there is still value in the low end, but I get that might not be your cup of tea, and I suspect you may not have the time to set down roots.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2949491]Like I said, I mainly partake in chicas who advertise online in Colombia on sites such as Prepagos and Mileroticos. Some are gorgeous, most charge around 130 - 150 K per hour, NONE charge more than 250 K. So all the chat on here about prices you guys find normal of hundreds of USD per hour is just on another planet for me, about screwing influencers and Instagram models etc. Who gives a crap about that?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't think anybody should be paying hundreds of USD for an hour of time in Colombia. For a last minute pickup in Lleras, most have quoted 600-800 k (about 150-200 USD) por la noche (multi-hour / shot night). Even Gustos girls seem to push around 1-1. 2 million (about 250-300 USD) for the night if you don't negotiate. I do speak Spanish as well so that may help but no girl in Lleras has ever quoted me more than 400 k per hour and they all quickly go down to 300 k if you push them and give off a good vibe from my discussions with them. I'm actually really surprised to see you make this assertion because I don't think anybody has advocated paying "hundreds of USD" for an hour of time. Most just don't get bent out of shape about paying and extra 50 k-100 k (20 USD) for a session if its a girl they really like and if it's in a general expected range.
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Re. Europe, you're quoting some of the most expensive cities such as London. OK, so actually slightly more than 100 USD these days in Belgium, more like 80 for 30 minutes and 130 an hour for an internet lady. And Germany is even cheaper than Belgium, as salaries are lower. And if you see ones that cost more online in Belgium or Germany, you're looking at the wrong websites. The ones full of fake photos, supposed models and porn stars etc. They're the worst. Same goes for Colombia.
[/QUOTE]I am American so I only know the places that are posted in these forums. As most here are tourists, we tend to focus on major areas that cater to tourists for a variety of reasons. So we would focus on the going rate in Brussels, not La Hulpe (even though it is a beautiful location to visit in a short burst). It's kinda like the situation with Thailand; Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket prices are more relevant to mongers than the prices in Chiang Mai even if there are deals to be had. For European prices, in any major region, most of those all seem to charge the higher rates that you claim are "wrong. " I found that the looks of the girls and the service level I expected matched the general expectation I've grown accustomed to with the price points in the US / Canada. If you have specific insights to these supposed deals, please post them or private message me because I'm definitely interested. Always happy to learn of new places.
Eastern Europe is on my list to try, though.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;2949641]If you spend that kind of money on some random Lleras girl, of course. But if you spend it on a girl that could easily model for playboy, like we're talking about, you won't get that for $300 in the USA. Starts at $1000+ an hour.
I don't like Lleras myself, don't like the talent here, most girls there I wouldn't even f*ck for free. Let alone el centro like Gabacho visits to pick up some random stinking animal and proudly posts here how little money he paid.
It's literally the difference between eating at Mc Donalds and Joel Robuchon. If you think spending $500 on a meal there sounds stupid, then that's perfectly fine, enjoy your $5 hamburger. But don't tell me life is better that way. To each their own.[/QUOTE]This actually proves my point. To further the analogy:
If you're paying $500 to eat at a restaurant with Joel Robuchon's name on it, you're paying a high price for essentially nothing. Robuchon likely has never even set foot in the place, and if he did, it was once or twice, long ago. He probably didn't even consult on the menu.
I couldn't think of a better analogy than that and paying for sex in Lleras.
To further FURTHER the analogy, I don't eat at McDonalds either. I eat at that undiscovered street spot or hole-in-the-wall restaurant few people know about.
Nobody's telling you what to do or not to do. I just personally think it's stupid. Not that you have to care, but this is an on-topic debate on the subject in a public forum, and that's my $. 02.
It is also my opinion that Colombia is a great place to monger because the average offering in the market is way higher than in most other places. Colombia is all about bang for the buck. But the absolute cream of the crop - at least looks-wise - will always be found in the USA. If your physical standards are really THAT high, that is.
Alright, since we have all been bashing the lleras pick up scene, let's try and focus on the best online sites that have yielded actual success.
I am near Lleras but so far haven't gone when the action starts (everyone says around 11 PM is best), because I usually have made arrangements before that point.
Between ISG pages of discussions, and tons of Youtube videos, you get the picture with Lleras.
If I'm meeting someone in the street in my travels, my RULE now is to NEVER get with any girl that approaches me FIRST.
So majority of the success I had in MDE is from photoprepagos and mileroticos -- never had a bad chica from those. The least exciting one was a last minute chica who came super late because my previous date was hours delayed, and at 2 AM I just invited over the first chica I messaged who responded and sounded sweet. Super cool, but very transactional, and the connection was whatever even though she was fun enough. Weird super fake tits, but that's what I get for last minute rush. I've paid anywhere from $250 K an hour to $750 K for multi-hour session from all the experiences I've had from those sites. Again, I'm not going to try to bargain bin a chica down from $190 USD to 150 USD.
I am curious about places like modelosalacarta, masajistaspaisas, and others. So please pass on any tips or pointers so we can get some good info back on track.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;2950044]Usually the top looking girls don't perform the best, nobody argues that. They know how hot they are so they don't need to blow you without condom for example. The restaurant analogy works there again, a delicious mail doesn't need to be expensive and it actually can taste better than the most expensive meal in the world. Same goes with wines for example. But it's all about how scarce something is. Even though the hottest girl's performance is nothing special, it's still pure bliss to be fucking her. And not everybody might value that of course, there's no arguing about taste. But don't go post nonsense here like girls like that can easily be had for 250 k.[/QUOTE]It really depends on the venue or where she is sourced from, how much you pay and if there is chemistry or if she likes you. Do you think those models on expensive yacht trips blow rich guys with a condom on? I bet they don't. If you have money, and pay accordingly, you can get any level of service you want. Anal, orgies, BBFS, whatever the fuck you want. Unless you are an absolutely disgusting fat old pig. And even so, it is just a matter of how much you pay. If you get rejected, you move on until you find someone who would bite. And obviously, you will rarely get GFE service from a casa / club girl, especially when you do her on site. The fee is usually flat and you get standard all covered service. But again, you can always pay up, take her out of the club and get the service you want.
And if there is chemistry, all that I said above becomes so much easier. A had an arrangement with a legit 9, and the sex was off the charts, she fucking delivered, OMG. I will remember her for the rest of my life, that's for sure.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2950019]Then show us the models you have been fucking for 250 k or less, and tell us how and where to find them and we'll be thankful. Do you know how many times I have been shown photos of the girls that a fellow monger considered stunning that I would not even touch for free?[/QUOTE]I just literally posted a review with photo a little while back. And I mentioned it previously, but you didn't bother to read.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2950019]...... Do you know how many times I have been shown photos of the girls that a fellow monger considered stunning that I would not even touch for free?[/QUOTE]That is normal. There are probably guys out there who would not touch for free girls you find stunning. I like it when guys do not like girls I like because that makes their availability for me better.
Reminds me of around 16 years ago at New Life when I saw in the lineup one of the hottest girls I've ever seen. There was one other dude who was there before me and had to choose first. I was concerned that he might take her and lo and behold he chose some other girl who I found significantly less attractive. The result was I banged one of the hottest girls I've ever banged in my life. Returned the next day and she was gone never to be seen again. One of my life's greatest regrets is not taking her number.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2950232]If you look at the high price ones, they are like tourist trap. A couple of examples among them, the quality of Loutron or La Isla are not getting better but the price going up much more with reduced service than the other non-tourist trap places. Why is that?
Why an experience man would go to tourist trap? One could observe from the conviction of some members here and they must go to these tourist traps to get what they want and pay the tourist trap price because they have to compete with the tourists or others with similar mindset. In a way, relatively speaking, the higher price one pays the weaker hand one has.[/QUOTE]It's all about the relative arbitrage mechanics at play. I am firm believer that most tourist places provide a general quality floor in experience due to the fact that those areas tend to represent the "upper crust" within a local prostitution market (the local modeling trade being the most prestigious but that is normally not a circle any foreigner, even of a long-term expat, is usually involved in) which leads to more competition within both sides of the market. This is standard supply-demand economics within unregulated markets and should lead better quality service for appropriately upcharged prices. It is not a guarantee, of course, but the general dynamics seem to bear this out pretty well. The second issue that most mongers mistake is the concept of a "passport bro. " A bro should be a term for a certain type of personality, but it is usually incorrectly associated with income classes. To be more specific, there are the folks with high incomes (probably orders of magnitude more than some mongers here) who are simply engaging in the market and making use of arbitrage that works for them. E. g. (and just using "you" generically) If you have ten dollars, it looks stupid to watch someone pay 3 dollars for a 2 dollar apple. If I have one million dollars and someone is selling a 3 dollar apple outside my apartment, I can see the upcharge but understand that it doesn't matter because that same apple costs 10 dollars and I don't want to deal with the hassle of trying to find a place that sells the 2 dollar apple. I wouldn't consider these passport bros and just look at them as what they are; new actors entering a market. Yes, they might ruin things for the old heads who want to go back to the good ol' days, but those actors often also lead to positive benefits in a market (more providers often enter the market to try and engage the higher priced buyers).
You are mistaken. Neither Loutron nor La Isla has "reduced services" to other places, it is more equitable to say they are overcharging for equivalent services. Most of the bang and dash providers in Centro provide sub-standard services that "could" be compared to the higher end joints. These higher end places claim that the hotness of the women makes up for it but that is the great debate, of course.
Let's get this back on track.
Was messaging a few prepagos, wanted an earlier vibe so I can be done before midnight in case I wanted to do more night time activities like the clubs.
Still have not been to Gustos even though I can walk there, nor have I checked out La Isla. But I think I have to based on all the hype. Let me know your thoughts, also not sure how the tipping situation works, like what is considered a good tip. Or should I just bring a bunch of USD singles?
Date with a young esthetician who is paying her way through school, and only works earlier hours. She showed me pics of her classes and clients so she's being honest.
Lot of chatting on WA and wanted to be extra secure, I was a little hesitant, but did the whole share location to verify I am where I say I am, and all was good.
Natural boobs, very few photos, but since one date fell through, I wanted to get the evening going without much more fuss.
Checked in, she came with a body suit showing off her cleavage and her natural tetas.
Cute face with a little roundness, round cheeks, but she was very cute.
Natural lips, but a BIG BBL. A pretty nice one too, and the tummy scar was evident, but didn't matter to me.
She raided my mini bar, and we start up, dancing, grinding, besitos, and BBBJ begun, she made great eye contact and had the cutest lips wrapped around, licking all over.
She could deep throat which was a welcome surprise, and forced herself all the way down 5 or 6 times during our 3 hour session.
Started Doggy, and that BBL combined with the BBBJ had me ready for the first polvo. Boom.
We cuddle together and start chatting, and she's stuck to me like a clingy girlfriend haha.
Natural break in conversation, and we start making out again, and I'm ready to go again, legs up half missionary so I can see her natural see cups bouncing while I pound away.
She was super tight and grippy, and the whole vibe was extremely sensual, which made it so much more enjoyable.
Opted for a third hour because I was ready to go again at the end of hours 2, so I'm not trying to nickel and dime like so many of the mongers on here, who are proud of how little they spend.
Could have negotiated a little, but I didn't want to interrupt the flow.
Third time was just as fun, she went down on me as soon as she noticed I was ready and gave me one of the best BBBJ's I could ask for.
In terms of what I spent, I'll say that I have never exceeded $300 USD on any chica here thus far, if anybody wants more details you can PM.
Another lovely paisa offering GFE and a super sexy time.
Side note: I messaged a stunning Venezolana, but I didn't know that until we were working out details. She was trying to push me for a trio with her ultra hot Vennie friend. She then asked if the hotel checks documents. I say "Si Siempre" (yes always) -- and she's like ohh I just got my papers from Venezuela. She insisted she only did CBJ so that was one strike, but was so fine, I was still tempted. I didn't want to risk anything based on stories I've read, heard online, and heard first hand from other chicas about girls from Venezuela because they are not on the paisa vibe, and that wavelength is where I am having the best times.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2950400]You are mistaken. Neither Loutron nor La Isla has "reduced services" to other places, [/QUOTE]Before pandemic at La Isla, I got a table and a waiter when I bough any drink. After pandemic, standing room only when I bought a drink. I give you this example because you can not say this is YMMV. I wrote report about it. Just read the reports on these two places. There are many new people just accept what is provided and the indirect result is the girls can do business without providing the services that more demanding customers want.
I was in a steak restaurant in El Poblado a few weeks ago. Everyone on that table next to me ordered either burger or fried chicken. They were talking about the deal they got with the girls in dollar.
The apple that is sold in Extito usually is the same quality in every Exito. The apple that is sold in El Centro,is different from what is sold in Exito. If I have a million dollar, I would not want to go to Extio to pay more to buy the apple sold in El Centro market. I failed to understand your analogy. To me, this is a minor point to argue about regardless who is right.
[QUOTE=JayWonEm;2941747]I'm planning my first Medellin trip for later this month, and appreciate the excellent information here. I am retired, late 60's, travelling solo, and my Spanish is decent (not fluent but more than enough to talk to a girl, book a date, and tell her what I want). I have pretty extensive experience in the US, have made several trips to Cartagena, and just got back from a tour of Vienna, Prague, and Berlin; to the point that I have plenty of experience in a variety of formats, from street pick-ups to long-term escort dates. In Cartagena I stayed in Bocagrande, and I am comfortable with the quality level of the typical tourist hotels there.
I appreciated the discussion of different personal styles and preferences, and the need to decide what you like and the best approach for you. I have two conflicting desires. I enjoy female company, and I don't want to spend my time eating and spending my day alone in between a couple of hour or half hour sessions every day. I would be very happy meeting a nice girl, spending a few days with her, and being temporarily monogamous. On the other hand, in my recent European tour I found that I like the idea of having a lot of girls who are all immediately available, like the laufhauses and FKKs in Europe.[/QUOTE]Hi Jay, PM me if you are here in October. Early November. Happy to meet you and whoever else would like to join a fellow monger from America.
[QUOTE=CowboyCheeba;2950439]also not sure how the tipping situation works, like what is considered a good tip. Or should I just bring a bunch of USD singles?[/QUOTE]Why are you trying to give away free money? And free money of a foreign currency at that. Would you go to the USA and give out South African Rand to people?
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2950569]Have you ever seen a 37 yo mom win the Miss Universe contest? She wouldn't even qualify. [/QUOTE]I actually met the person who was Miss Universe last year. I do not know her name, but she is from Texas. Just looked like a regular chick to me. And yes, unlike you with all your 8's, 9's, and 10's, I do have pictures. The first pictures we took she did not have the sash on. Then her assistant remembered and said let's put the sash on and take some. Yeah, because without the sash, I would not know her from any 37 year old mom walking down the street anyway.
Just finished a weeklong tour of Medellin. Arriving in the evening has become a nightmare. They still have just three immigration officers for visitors, took god damn one hour and 45 minutes to clear the immigration. Medellin number of incoming tourists have sky rocketed but for their immigration dept. It is still 2010.
Didn't bother with Parque Lleras this time but casas were good enough.
Zandalay was a disaster - 7-8 chicas on most days, all of them roadkill.
New Life was much better this time, about 20-30 girls, 3-4 do-able for me. 70 + propina for media hora. Gets lots of loud, big guys from USA.
Sexy Amigas was a let down this time, they used to be ebst. Had about 10-12 girls, one or two old timers still the best.
Armonia was the start this time, had 12-20 girls mostly. About 5+ do-ables.
One new thing I noticed this time around is that all casa chicas have ganged up and refuse to accept below 50 K propina. They just don't budge. Some girls in Armonia won't kiss at all, something I have almost never ever experienced in my life all over the world. So what used to be a good deal for 60 + 20 K last year is now 70 + 50 minimum.
The centro scene was as usual, mostly road kill but a gem here and there if you look hard enough.
[QUOTE=Plan77;2951219]Just finished a weeklong tour of Medellin. Arriving in the evening has become a nightmare. They still have just three immigration officers for visitors, took god damn one hour and 45 minutes to clear the immigration. Medellin number of incoming tourists have sky rocketed but for their immigration dept. It is still 2010.[/QUOTE]What time did you land?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2951205]I actually met the person who was Miss Universe last year. I do not know her name, but she is from Texas. Just looked like a regular chick to me. And yes, unlike you with all your 8's, 9's, and 10's, I do have pictures. The first pictures we took she did not have the sash on. Then her assistant remembered and said let's put the sash on and take some. Yeah, because without the sash, I would not know her from any 37 year old mom walking down the street anyway.[/QUOTE]I am not surprised. The SI swimsuit issue has had plus size models for years, and it was just a matter of time for beauty contests to go woke, and they have.
[URL]https://wwd.com/pop-culture/celebrity-news/miss-universe-2023-transwomen-plus-size-mothers-1235934116/[/URL]
In October 2022, Thai transgender entrepreneur Anne Jakrajutatip purchased the Miss Universe Organization from IMG. Under Jakrajutatip's ownership, the Miss Universe contest revised its rules, allowing mothers, married people and divorcees to compete. They are also letting trannies in.
So yeah, that you saw a Miss Universe and were not impressed does not shock me. Hell, she may have been a dude.
This is to all the gringos. I see roving groups of dudes walking the streets of poblado, lleras, etc. We have all seen the groups of gringos in Colombia.
There was a discussion earlier in this thread about how speaking Spanish won't prevent bad shit happening to you, and it devolved into a silly semantic argument about how crime occurs anywhere. And locals are victims of crime too and they are locals who speak the language!
Yeah, being almost fluent in Spanish, I can 100% say that your chances of getting in a bad situation drops greatly. People who make an attempt to fit in are not going to become a victim of something versus the entitled a-hole gringo getting wasted and treating the country like it's their frat house.
The entitled gringo attitude is disgusting and needs to be called out. I witnessed a rude gringo talking to a waiter like he was a child.
The guy had his translation app open and it said "I want cappuccino not with americano but with espresso" - confusing, poor wording.
The waiter was like "You want cappuccino with an extra shot?
Dude immediately was impatient and condescending "NO, I don't want an americano I want a cappuccino with espresso and not americano".
Basically he thought they would make an americano with milk and pass it as a cappuccino I guess? Who knows it was a pathetic scene.
I see them paying for food on the street in Provenza, yelling at the people that they want to pay US dollars, and they're telling him "we only take pesos or credit card" while the gringo has a wad of 20's spilling out on the counter like a fool. "WHAT? I have dollars you don't take cash?
Bro where do you even come from?
The people in Colombia are mostly patient, give good service, and make an attempt to meet you more than halfway, and these entitled little men are barely making an effort, getting wasted, taking zero interest in the culture other than cheap food drinks and women.
Learn the basics, learn how to say the touristy things, stop making Americans look stupid and ignorant. Humble yourself when you are in a foreign nation.
If a local with criminal intent in their heart is watching this scene, they're not going to pick someone who speaks with a little respect and knows the language, they are going to go after the idiots who don't know how to act, and think they own the place.
These guys were walking marks with a cloud of entitled ignorance surrounding them.
What and where is Armonia?
[QUOTE=Plan77;2951219]Just finished a weeklong tour of Medellin. Arriving in the evening has become a nightmare. They still have just three immigration officers for visitors, took god damn one hour and 45 minutes to clear the immigration. Medellin number of incoming tourists have sky rocketed but for their immigration dept. It is still 2010.
Didn't bother with Parque Lleras this time but casas were good enough.
Zandalay was a disaster - 7-8 chicas on most days, all of them roadkill.
New Life was much better this time, about 20-30 girls, 3-4 do-able for me. 70 + propina for media hora. Gets lots of loud, big guys from USA.
Sexy Amigas was a let down this time, they used to be ebst. Had about 10-12 girls, one or two old timers still the best.
Armonia was the start this time, had 12-20 girls mostly. About 5+ do-ables.
One new thing I noticed this time around is that all casa chicas have ganged up and refuse to accept below 50 K propina. They just don't budge. Some girls in Armonia won't kiss at all, something I have almost never ever experienced in my life all over the world. So what used to be a good deal for 60 + 20 K last year is now 70 + 50 minimum.
The centro scene was as usual, mostly road kill but a gem here and there if you look hard enough.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2949652]Thanks for your advice. I'm probably just feeling horny in Europe seeing the videos of Lleras etc, once I get there I'll be sensible. Never done anything dumb before there, not about to start now. Don't date any chicks from social media. Going to see one advertised as a hooker online with her photo & address, or at a Casa with other working girls is probably the safest sex you can have in Colombia! The way I do it.
Are they going to drug you at their own place where they sleep? When you have their photo etc? Don't think so, done it hundreds of times never had a problem.
I'll do like you said, go to Lleras for the evening and maybe take a few numbers. If I decided to pull the trigger I'd never invite them to my place, but to a motel just made for that. The reception holds their cedula, and I would make a point of only taking with me the basics of what I need. Cash for them and my burner phone. No bank cards, no original ID etc. I'd also tell them that so there's no point robbing me. But that's all theory anyway because whether or not I'd take the risk on one is another question. We'll see 😉.[/QUOTE]I don't get it! If you're in Europe why travel all the way to South America? If you factor in the cost of the LONG flight, the inflated Airbnb prices in Medellin and the rising cost of ran thru chicas you are talking about $1000's of Euros to sleep with a handful of tatted, marijuana breath chicas. If you use that money you could sleep with 2-3 more girls without the long ass flight.
The same goes for Americans and Canadians. If you factor in high Airbnb prices for shitty apartments and transportation you could save that money and sleep with several woman who speaks english in the comfort of your own home. And even make a deal for something weekly. It's youtube. There are no youtube videos of the hookers in your own city so people think they have to cross entire oceans just to get laid.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2951201]And free money of a foreign currency at that. Would you go to the USA and give out South African Rand to people?[/QUOTE]Always spot on!
[QUOTE=Plan77;2951219]Just finished a weeklong tour of Medellin. Arriving in the evening has become a nightmare. They still have just three immigration officers for visitors, took god damn one hour and 45 minutes to clear the immigration. Medellin number of incoming tourists have sky rocketed but for their immigration dept. It is still 2010.
Didn't bother with Parque Lleras this time but casas were good enough.
Zandalay was a disaster - 7-8 chicas on most days, all of them roadkill.
New Life was much better this time, about 20-30 girls, 3-4 do-able for me. 70 + propina for media hora. Gets lots of loud, big guys from USA.
Sexy Amigas was a let down this time, they used to be ebst. Had about 10-12 girls, one or two old timers still the best.
Armonia was the start this time, had 12-20 girls mostly. About 5+ do-ables.
One new thing I noticed this time around is that all casa chicas have ganged up and refuse to accept below 50 K propina. They just don't budge. Some girls in Armonia won't kiss at all, something I have almost never ever experienced in my life all over the world. So what used to be a good deal for 60 + 20 K last year is now 70 + 50 minimum.
The centro scene was as usual, mostly road kill but a gem here and there if you look hard enough.[/QUOTE]Great reading a casa report which has become very scarce here. I am a casa man and will be arriving in Medellin Wednesday. Looking forward to my usual casa romps, will be adding Loutrons and Energy to the mix which I do every visit.
[QUOTE=Plan77;2951219]One new thing I noticed this time around is that all casa chicas have ganged up and refuse to accept below 50 K propina. They just don't budge. Some girls in Armonia won't kiss at all, something I have almost never ever experienced in my life all over the world. So what used to be a good deal for 60 + 20 K last year is now 70 + 50 minimum.[/QUOTE]Please explain what the 50 k propina is all about. BBBJ? Propina means tip which is given voluntarily as opposed to an upgrade in services? Thanks.
If I lived in the United States I would happily spend the money to avoid the risk of a criminal record.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2951392]I don't get it! If you're in Europe why travel all the way to South America? If you factor in the cost of the LONG flight, the inflated Airbnb prices in Medellin and the rising cost of ran thru chicas you are talking about $1000's of Euros to sleep with a handful of tatted, marijuana breath chicas. If you use that money you could sleep with 2-3 more girls without the long ass flight.
The same goes for Americans and Canadians. If you factor in high Airbnb prices for shitty apartments and transportation you could save that money and sleep with several woman who speaks english in the comfort of your own home. And even make a deal for something weekly. It's youtube. There are no youtube videos of the hookers in your own city so people think they have to cross entire oceans just to get laid.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2951205]I actually met the person who was Miss Universe last year. I do not know her name, but she is from Texas. Just looked like a regular chick to me. And yes, unlike you with all your 8's, 9's, and 10's, I do have pictures. The first pictures we took she did not have the sash on. Then her assistant remembered and said let's put the sash on and take some. Yeah, because without the sash, I would not know her from any 37 year old mom walking down the street anyway.[/QUOTE]You brag about finally posting a picture but the body is hidden in fake fur fluffy stuff. Why did you not show her face? If she really is Miss Universe she would not have any reason to fear getting a picture taken of her face since she gets pictures taken of her every day every where she goes.
[QUOTE=Bill;2951452]Please explain what the 50 k propina is all about. BBBJ? Propina means tip which is given voluntarily as opposed to an upgrade in services? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Propina means whatever they want it to mean. An semantic argument will not get you a BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2951487]If I lived in the United States I would happily spend the money to avoid the risk of a criminal record.[/QUOTE]I do live in the US and I'd prefer to travel. For the most part it's illegal here and unregulated and unpredictable. You never really know what you are going to get and you are going to pay a lot more. I don't have to worry about getting arrested if I travel. Most of the girls I see here are skanks compared to other countries etc and you have to pay 3 x the price. I can't afford a decent chick for $1200 or higher.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2951499]You brag about finally posting a picture but the body is hidden in fake fur fluffy stuff. Why did you not show her face? If she really is Miss Universe she would not have any reason to fear getting a picture taken of her face since she gets pictures taken of her every day every where she goes.[/QUOTE]He always posts BS pics. Low resolution, body parts, etc. Look at the photo he posted in the stupid shit in Medellin thread. He asks me to post pics of my girls, but when it comes to his girls, he always posts crap. I had to look up this miss universe, found her insta, she is a cutie, not my type, but definitely hot.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2951526]He always posts BS pics. Low resolution, body parts, etc. Look at the photo he posted in the stupid shit in Medellin thread. He asks me to post pics of my girls, but when it comes to his girls, he always posts crap. I had to look up this miss universe, found her insta, she is a cutie, not my type, but definitely hot.[/QUOTE]LOL. While you two post nothing! At least you had sense enough to look the person up, unlike the person you quoted who is on my ignore list. I guess that dummy did not read the part about me being in the picture with her. Besides that, I have already been burned in the Lima thread by someone running back and telling a chick that never revealed herself as a hooker to me that I posted pictures of her here. So yeah, the low resolution BS pics that I post are already much more than the NOTHING that you and that clown post.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2951526]He always posts BS pics. Low resolution, body parts, etc. Look at the photo he posted in the stupid shit in Medellin thread. He asks me to post pics of my girls, but when it comes to his girls, he always posts crap. I had to look up this miss universe, found her insta, she is a cutie, not my type, but definitely hot.[/QUOTE]At least he posted shitty pix. One posted shitty pix, one talked big but don't post shit. In the end, both are shit. One shit call the other shit but both are shit.
At least I respect the one that posted something instead of sprouting shit with no proof.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2951392]and the rising cost of ran thru chicas you are talking about $1000's of Euros to sleep with a handful of tatted, marijuana breath chicas.[/QUOTE]You just reminded me of one of the girls I banged last year. Pretty face, great attitude and a University girl. Soon as she opens her mouth to start talking, that marijuana breath kills my libido. I opted out for the kiss, which is part of my routine. Told her she can suck me with condom on as I don't want junior smelling marijuana for my next date lol. I'm always freshly showered and smelling good before meetup. I'm not taking risk with the smell of marijuana that just sticks anywhere. Hard lesson learned and never again. I always asked girls now if they smoke, so I don't have to deal with the same BS.
[QUOTE=GiraffyBoy;2951516]I do live in the US and I'd prefer to travel. For the most part it's illegal here and unregulated and unpredictable. You never really know what you are going to get and you are going to pay a lot more. I don't have to worry about getting arrested if I travel. Most of the girls I see here are skanks compared to other countries etc and you have to pay 3 x the price. I can't afford a decent chick for $1200 or higher.[/QUOTE]When you see a pay for play girl in the United States, you are subject to arrest and it may ruin your career and marriage. It is a big risk. When you travel overseas where it is legal in the country, you don't have to worry about being arrested by the police as long as the girl is of legal age.
Sometimes people complain about paying $100 and say that they can pay that in their home country. Now, I don't know about your particular country but in the United States, you are not getting a very high quality girl for $100. It is usually a 6 or lower and it is non-GFE and business-like. Now, I agree that $100 US is a lot for Medellin but if you are getting GFE with a very attractive girl and she is giving you a great performance, that is a lot more than you will be getting for the same price in the United States.
Now it is true that you are paying for the flight and hotels but you are on vacation and there are other things to enjoy about Medellin besides the sex.
I've been to Medellin 10+ times in the last two years and cartagena once (which was enough for me LOL). Me and some friends are planning a trip to one of these three cities and it's currently up for debate. Here's what we prioritize:
1. P4 P scene (Obviously) - How good is the p4 p scene on the streets and amount of good looking women available (ie poblado: blending in with nightlife, relatively safe mongering scene).
2. Upscale restaurant availability - (ie Carmen, other poblado joints, and envigado).
3. Cost. Average cost of drinks, women, food. On average, how do the three compare?
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2951701] in the United States, you are not getting a very high quality girl for $100. It is usually a 6 or lower and it is non-GFE and business-like. Now, I agree that $100 US is a lot for Medellin but if you are getting GFE with a very attractive girl and she is giving you a great performance
Now it is true that you are paying for the flight and hotels but you are on vacation and there are other things to enjoy about Medellin besides the sex.[/QUOTE]My last experience in Medellin was with a young attractive 19-20 year old Vene from Parque Lleras who agreed to $100 US (350,000 pesos) but in the room she was a real dud. She went right for my fridge in the room and did not want to do the BBBJ she had agreed to do. Until I told her to leave, then she did the BBBJ. And the sex was poor. She was resisting, like it was a wrestling match and I had to keep trying to pin her to get penetration. I think I ended up paying her less than agreed because she underperformed, nonperformed, and it was not worth much, if anything, to be honest. I recall asking her to leave paid her half, and I ended up jacking off myself after getting rid of her.
My last experience in Sosua was with a young 19-year-old who did not want to do BBBJ and was going thru my frig and packages of things I bought for my kids, like it was her property.
Both trips were disappointing, expensive and a waste of travel time. The performances of the women have gone down and its hard to find an honest hoe who performs what she negotiated and agreed to do, regardless of the country.
Fortunately, I have a couple of regulars in the US for $200 each and I see them each once a week. It has saved alot of money on airfare and hotel, as well as time travelling.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2951701]When you see a pay for play girl in the United States, you are subject to arrest and it may ruin your career and marriage. It is a big risk. When you travel overseas where it is legal in the country, you don't have to worry about being arrested by the police as long as the girl is of legal age.
Now it is true that you are paying for the flight and hotels but you are on vacation and there are other things to enjoy about Medellin besides the sex.[/QUOTE]Yup. My trips are about more than just this hobby. For one, it's nice to go somewhere with good weather between Nov and April when it's not good weather where I live. I would be taking warm weather trips if I was married so why not do them when I'm single? Just get to bone several women as opposed to just your wife.
And you're right. Not worth risking arrest in the USA.
[QUOTE=GiraffyBoy;2951516]I do live in the US and I'd prefer to travel. For the most part it's illegal here and unregulated and unpredictable. You never really know what you are going to get and you are going to pay a lot more. I don't have to worry about getting arrested if I travel. Most of the girls I see here are skanks compared to other countries etc and you have to pay 3 x the price. I can't afford a decent chick for $1200 or higher.[/QUOTE]" I can't afford a decent chick for $1200 or higher. ".
First off you can get a decent chick for $300. $1200 you can get top of the line in america so I'm not sure where your getting your data from?
Explain. Or maybe I read your message wrong.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2951785]My last experience in Medellin was with a young attractive 19-20 year old Vene from Parque Lleras who agreed to $100 US (350,000 pesos) but in the room she was a real dud. She went right for my fridge in the room and did not want to do the BBBJ she had agreed to do. Until I told her to leave, then she did the BBBJ. And the sex was poor. She was resisting, like it was a wrestling match and I had to keep trying to pin her to get penetration. I think I ended up paying her less than agreed because she underperformed, nonperformed, and it was not worth much, if anything, to be honest. I recall asking her to leave paid her half, and I ended up jacking off myself after getting rid of her.
My last experience in Sosua was with a young 19-year-old who did not want to do BBBJ and was going thru my frig and packages of things I bought for my kids, like it was her property.
Both trips were disappointing, expensive and a waste of travel time. The performances of the women have gone down and its hard to find an honest hoe who performs what she negotiated and agreed to do, regardless of the country..[/QUOTE]You may run into those types of girls in Medellin, and it is always a hit or miss situation when you pick up a girl in Park Lleras. That has not been my experience with Facebook girls in Medellin. I have met a number of attractive girls 18-22 age range who have provided solid performances and have been fun and friendly in the room. But it was not always that way. On the first trip, it was very hit or miss, and there were a few average performances. Over time, I just learned from your experiences and I got a better sense of which girls to select.
Medellin is still a fun place to visit for me, but there will still be a dud from time to time. It goes with the turf if you are seeing new girls. Now I am seeing a lot of regulars, girls that I have already seen, and there is more assurance that it will be a good session.
Got in on a delayed flight today. Arrived at my hotel around 2. 00 am. My preferred place to stay is Poblado. My favorite part of Medellin is Laureles but in the past I have never found a good hotel there; same for El Centro. American brand upscale hotels have been tried and tested successfully for me. I use short time hotels for any trysts I may have. In my most recent visit to Bogota I stayed at the Radisson and was quite satisfied with that choice. I was supposed to have visited Cali this time around having already been to Cartagena but I could not get good accommodation at short notice.
I remember reading a poster's comment on the big sign at immigration. I have no problem with it, it is against underage sex and actually does not refer to sex tourism. Another poster mentioned not requiring the CheckMig fill out. What I suspect (I am not 100% sure of this) is that if you enter without filling out the form the immigration officer will spend a lot of time interrogating you but will allow you to go through eventually. I saw certain extranjeros going through this. I filled out the form (with some difficulty as the website is iffy) and I went through like a breeze. The problem with not filling out the form is the delay that it apparently causes to other visitors. Have some consideration guys.
As I mentioned in earlier posts I go for the casas. I intend to spend time casa hopping in search of diamonds in the rough. Parque LLeras, street girls, facebook girls and Seeking are just not my thing. I do occasionally have a look at the street scene and pop into the Centro clubs / bars, though, when I'm in that area.
Who's going to be there next week? I'll be there 17th-21st. Going to be my 6th time. I lived there when I was little, not Medellin tho.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2951925]Got in on a delayed flight today. Arrived at my hotel around 2. 00 am. My preferred place to stay is Poblado. My favorite part of Medellin is Laureles but in the past I have never found a good hotel there; same for El Centro. American brand upscale hotels have been tried and tested successfully for me. I use short time hotels for any trysts I may have. In my most recent visit to Bogota I stayed at the Radisson and was quite satisfied with that choice. I was supposed to have visited Cali this time around having already been to Cartagena but I could not get good accommodation at short notice.
I remember reading a poster's comment on the big sign at immigration. I have no problem with it, it is against underage sex and actually does not refer to sex tourism. Another poster mentioned not requiring the CheckMig fill out. What I suspect (I am not 100% sure of this) is that if you enter without filling out the form the immigration officer will spend a lot of time interrogating you but will allow you to go through eventually. I saw certain extranjeros going through this. I filled out the form (with some difficulty as the website is iffy) and I went through like a breeze. The problem with not filling out the form is the delay that it apparently causes to other visitors. Have some consideration guys.
As I mentioned in earlier posts I go for the casas. I intend to spend time casa hopping in search of diamonds in the rough. Parque LLeras, street girls, facebook girls and Seeking are just not my thing. I do occasionally have a look at the street scene and pop into the Centro clubs / bars, though, when I'm in that area.[/QUOTE]Hasn't it been quite a few years since your last visit Turgid? The scene has changed. I was a casa guy 10 years ago when there were some diamonds in the rough. They aint there no more! I've given up on the casas. If you like the cheap ones then hit the el centro bars or behind the church. Unless you like big girls you're wasting your time at the casas imo. Will be interested in reading your report.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2951925]I use short time hotels for any trysts I may have.[/QUOTE]What are your favorite short time hotels in Poblado?
[QUOTE=GuiGui123;2952104]What are your favorite short time hotels in Poblado?[/QUOTE]I have never used a short time hotel in Poblado.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2952084]Hasn't it been quite a few years since your last visit Turgid? The scene has changed. I was a casa guy 10 years ago when there were some diamonds in the rough. They aint there no more! I've given up on the casas. If you like the cheap ones then hit the el centro bars or behind the church. Unless you like big girls you're wasting your time at the casas imo. Will be interested in reading your report.[/QUOTE]Pardon my ignorance here but what do you guys mean by casa? I speak fluent spanish, so I know what casa is, I haven't been to Colombia yet and was wondering what it means in this context. Is it like a red light district?
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[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2951785]My last experience in Medellin was with a young attractive 19-20 year old Vene from Parque Lleras who agreed to $100 US (350,000 pesos) but in the room she was a real dud. She went right for my fridge in the room and did not want to do the BBBJ she had agreed to do. Until I told her to leave, then she did the BBBJ. And the sex was poor. She was resisting, like it was a wrestling match and I had to keep trying to pin her to get penetration. I think I ended up paying her less than agreed because she underperformed, nonperformed, and it was not worth much, if anything, to be honest. I recall asking her to leave paid her half, and I ended up jacking off myself after getting rid of her.
My last experience in Sosua was with a young 19-year-old who did not want to do BBBJ and was going thru my frig and packages of things I bought for my kids, like it was her property.
Both trips were disappointing, expensive and a waste of travel time. The performances of the women have gone down and its hard to find an honest hoe who performs what she negotiated and agreed to do, regardless of the country.
Fortunately, I have a couple of regulars in the US for $200 each and I see them each once a week. It has saved alot of money on airfare and hotel, as well as time travelling.[/QUOTE]Why are you paying that much for a crappy experience? You clearly didn't have a good time and it seems like the first time you two met. You can get a way better experience at a Casa for way cheaper. Doesn't make sense IMO.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2951701]When you see a pay for play girl in the United States, you are subject to arrest and it may ruin your career and marriage. It is a big risk. When you travel overseas where it is legal in the country, you don't have to worry about being arrested by the police as long as the girl is of legal age.
Sometimes people complain about paying $100 and say that they can pay that in their home country. Now, I don't know about your particular country but in the United States, you are not getting a very high quality girl for $100. It is usually a 6 or lower and it is non-GFE and business-like. Now, I agree that $100 US is a lot for Medellin but if you are getting GFE with a very attractive girl and she is giving you a great performance, that is a lot more than you will be getting for the same price in the United States.
Now it is true that you are paying for the flight and hotels but you are on vacation and there are other things to enjoy about Medellin besides the sex.[/QUOTE]That's why you got to have your money for the vacation and then you're play money. 500 usd equates to about 2 million pesos. Plenty to have at least thirty girls or more if negotiated right. The more you speak the language the better the experience and and rates are.
[QUOTE=GangsterDog;2952062]Who's going to be there next week? I'll be there 17th-21st. Going to be my 6th time. I lived there when I was little, not Medellin tho.[/QUOTE]Pm me I'm going to be there player!
Hi,
I am planning to come to Medellin in November but worried about my safety there. I have been reading all the reports and excited that there are many beauties floating around. However, I have also seen many videos about robbing and drugging happening in this town.
I don't plan to indulge in Tinder or any dating app.
Can someone please advise whether inviting girls from mileroticos or similar websitesare safe? I found the pricing quite reasonable. Does anyone have any incident of getting drugged or robbed from girls from these websites! Do I need to be cautious even with these girls.
[QUOTE=TheDarkLord101;2952246]
Can someone please advise whether inviting girls from mileroticos or similar websitesare safe? I found the pricing quite reasonable. Does anyone have any incident of getting drugged or robbed from girls from these websites! [/QUOTE]Milerotico, Skokka, and another (forgot the name) are safe because you do the deed at their location. Most (90%) will not go to your place for their safety. You will have to up the price 50% or more and most likely have been with them a few times prior so they kind of know you. Your success rate will be around 25% because they use old pictures, edited photos, no replies, bait and switch (Julie is gone or busy but here take Samatha), and the list goes on and on. I tried the main websites in 5 major cities and all had the same results.
[QUOTE=GiraffyBoy;2952161]Pardon my ignorance here but what do you guys mean by casa? I speak fluent spanish, so I know what casa is, I haven't been to Colombia yet and was wondering what it means in this context. Is it like a red light district?[/QUOTE]Casas are sometimes in casas. So there is the connection I suppose. Basically brothel would be the closest english term I think. Lots of descriptions if you dig back through reports. Search for "New Life" for reports about one of the bigger ones, and in most respects typical of what these casas are lke.
[QUOTE=TheDarkLord101;2952246]Can someone please advise whether inviting girls from mileroticos or similar websitesare safe? I found the pricing quite reasonable. Does anyone have any incident of getting drugged or robbed from girls from these websites! Do I need to be cautious even with these girls.[/QUOTE]You need to be cautious with every girl, no matter where you find her. I've been going to Medellin for 14 years. The last few years, I've been there almost six months of each year. I've never been drugged. I think a girl tried one time, but she didn't succeed. I haven't been robbed. A few times, chicas have taken some money from my pants while I was showering. Some people on this forum advise to never let the chica out of your site. I can't live like that. In my opinion, having a good time with a chica involves some level of trust. I don't party with chicas in my apartment. I offer them non alcoholic drinks, and I drink water. The water is gone after two or three gulps, so no opportunity for foreign substances. I don't pick up chicas from Parque Lleras. I have a couple of times in the past, and both have been bad experiences. I rely on Facebook and referrals from chicas I know for new contacts. I have more chica acquaintances than I can see in a year, but I still try to see one or two new ones during each trip. Each trip lasts about a month.
Casa de cita, burdel, *****house.
[QUOTE=GiraffyBoy;2952161]Pardon my ignorance here but what do you guys mean by casa? I speak fluent spanish, so I know what casa is, I haven't been to Colombia yet and was wondering what it means in this context. Is it like a red light district?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2952334]You need to be cautious with every girl, no matter where you find her. I've been going to Medellin for 14 years. The last few years, I've been there almost six months of each year. I've never been drugged. I think a girl tried one time, but she didn't succeed. I haven't been robbed. A few times, chicas have taken some money from my pants while I was showering. Some people on this forum advise to never let the chica out of your site. I can't live like that. In my opinion, having a good time with a chica involves some level of trust. I don't party with chicas in my apartment. I offer them non alcoholic drinks, and I drink water. The water is gone after two or three gulps, so no opportunity for foreign substances. I don't pick up chicas from Parque Lleras. I have a couple of times in the past, and both have been bad experiences. I rely on Facebook and referrals from chicas I know for new contacts. I have more chica acquaintances than I can see in a year, but I still try to see one or two new ones during each trip. Each trip lasts about a month.[/QUOTE]I would agree with this opinion. You just have to be careful with every girl you invite to your place no matter where you found her. Not drinking with the girl is something I would recommend. Having a place with security is another good decision.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2952334]You need to be cautious with every girl, no matter where you find her. I've been going to Medellin for 14 years. The last few years, I've been there almost six months of each year. I've never been drugged. I think a girl tried one time, but she didn't succeed. I haven't been robbed. A few times, chicas have taken some money from my pants while I was showering. Some people on this forum advise to never let the chica out of your site. I can't live like that. In my opinion, having a good time with a chica involves some level of trust. I don't party with chicas in my apartment. I offer them non alcoholic drinks, and I drink water. The water is gone after two or three gulps, so no opportunity for foreign substances. I don't pick up chicas from Parque Lleras. I have a couple of times in the past, and both have been bad experiences. I rely on Facebook and referrals from chicas I know for new contacts. I have more chica acquaintances than I can see in a year, but I still try to see one or two new ones during each trip. Each trip lasts about a month.[/QUOTE]As a first timer (I arrive 14th) is online the safest way then? Followed I guess by visiting strip clubs and casa's (will have to research these)?
I'm looking for big ol booties (you don't get those in Europe much), I worry the best will be in Parc Lleras but there is no way I would risk that especially being alone!
Thanks for the help (seems like a few of us are going at the same time).
[QUOTE=CK465;2952224]Why are you paying that much for a crappy experience? You clearly didn't have a good time and it seems like the first time you two met. You can get a way better experience at a Casa for way cheaper. Doesn't make sense IMO.[/QUOTE]I did get the BBBJ after complaining and giving her the option to leave, and I did penetrate her, though she resisted like it was a wresting match. I thought 200 K was a fair portion for what she had earned and paid her that. She did not complain as she was putting on her close, so it was fair for her also. About $55 US. After she left I jacked off and went to sleep.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2952354]Casa de cita, burdel, *****house.[/QUOTE]MP's massage parlors.
[QUOTE=Jeffers69;2952403]As a first timer (I arrive 14th) is online the safest way then? Followed I guess by visiting strip clubs and casa's (will have to research these)?
I'm looking for big ol booties (you don't get those in Europe much), I worry the best will be in Parc Lleras but there is no way I would risk that especially being alone!
Thanks for the help (seems like a few of us are going at the same time).[/QUOTE]Depends what you mean by online. The most dangerous is using apps like Tinder to make connections. There are many many examples of guys meeting dates through Tinder and ending up dead. And many many who ended up getting drugged but surviving, minus their stuff.
After a first trip to Medellin in May, I made a quick return visit this past week staying only three nights since I had spent the weekend doing the Panama City scene with an old college buddy. Copa Airlines has a deal right now where a stopover in Panama was free of charge. This time my Medellin stay would be from Monday to Thursday and I opted to stay at the Hotel Medellin Plaza or more commonly known as the Hotel M mansion again. I know it's overpriced but it turned out to be so user friendly last time with English speaking reception staff, meeting other fellow mongers and the monger bar just downstairs to pull from along with good security.
The immigration lines in the afternoon were terrible as it took my 1. 5 hours to get through. Then at the counter, once again I was directed to the 'Canadian' booth where I had to pay a $94 Cad entry fee due to some trade spat Colombia and Canada has. Anyway after getting through I made my way to the cheap airport buses which all the locals take for 15,500 COP which is what I took in May. This is by far the cheapest way into the city. I got off at their stop near San Diego Mall and ordered an Uber to the hotel. No need for costly taxis from the airport. Once checked in I went out across the main street to Ovienda Mall which has a nice food court in the lower level with lots of choices at decent prices. Then went over to the 24 hour pharmacy across from Ovienda Mall to pick up some stuff for my room.
After relaxing I made my way down to the hotel bar at about 10 pm. In May I had a Thursday, Friday and Saturday night stint there and it was great with enough chicas to choose from. This time on Monday night, I was the only customer there with about five girls inside with only 1-2 I would consider. One of them hit me up for drinks and this is where I made a mistake by agreeing to buy a girl one before committing. As we enjoyed our drinks, I asked if 250,000 COP was acceptable which is what I paid in May assuming that after quotes of 300,000 COP, most girls would agree to go for 250,000. Well to my surprise, this girl refused to go under 300,000 and soon the other girls came as they all started babbling in Spanish. I'm sure that the chica I was talking to was telling the others about our price disagreement and they somehow tried to tell me that none of them would go out for less than 300,000.
I told them that I previously paid 250,000 all the time and mentioned names of two chicas I saw in May. They told me that one of those girls was fired for charging too low which prevented the rest of them from getting any work. I think this was bullcrap since girls working here are all independent. I could have settled for the 300,000 since after conversion, it's only a difference of $20 Cad but I felt that the 'union' of girls there that night caused a less than positive vibe with me so I left opting to go to sleep instead after a long day of travel.
The next morning I decided to Uber it out to the New Life casa to get some action after getting nothing the night before. I've been to New Life once before and had a great time there. This time I once again went through the blue door and got buzzed up where a lady host was waiting. After directed to a waiting room, a line up of about 15 girls came by one at a time introducing themselves. Overall the quality was crap in my opinion as most of them were fatties although I'm sure some customers who like beefier woman might like them. Luckily for me, there were two slim ones who were acceptable to me and the last one in the line up was just my type. These girls were rotating through another waiting room at the same time so I was hoping that my chosen one would not be picked by the other dude there. When the hostess came around, she confirmed that my chosen girl was available to me so I took 30 minutes for 70,000 COP with her.
The lady took me downstairs to a room and after showering, I got a great semi GFE session with her which means kissing was there but CBJ. She also agreed to getting a few photos with me taken with clothes on after our action without asking for any extra so I decided to give her a 2,000 propina anyway. This session at New Life in my mind certainly made up for last night at the hotel bar.
I didn't realize there was a rainy season in Medellin as the rain started coming down for the evening. I was going to go down to the hotel bar again but decided to just relax in my room for the night since I already had my fun at New Life and thought it would be pretty crappy if it turned out that I ran out of leche for a night session at a much higher price.
The next day I took a day trip to Guatape which is the most colourful little town I've ever been to and also climbed up Piedra El Peno to get some awesome views of the area. To get there, I just took Uber to the North Terminal for buses where at counter #14, the 20,000 COP local bus takes you to Guatape in two hours. This is a day trip I totally recommend as part of the touristy things to do while in Medellin.
For my final night which was Wedesday, I decided to go down to the hotel bar again. Since it started to rain again, I was not going to go out to Parque Lleras or anywhere else. Got down to the bar again at about 10 pm and this time bumped into some cool dudes also staying at the hotel which was great. This is one of the benefits of staying at hotel M because one can meet fellow mongers and share intel plus experiences from not only Medellin but worldwide. One of the guys there I met back in May was also there this night and he just came back from Thailand which is where I'm headed to this November. His insights from his recent trip were quite useful for my upcoming trip.
The bar had only about five or six girls again but they were different from the ones on Monday fortunately. I did pick one out and when she asked me for a drink, I learned my lesson from last time as I wanted to make sure that this was a chica I would likely take before wasting my time and money on drinks. I asked her about rates and she quoted 350,000. I countered at 300,000 thinking that 250,000 would be too far a stretch and she promptly agreed at 300,000 so I bought her a drink. After drinks, I took her back to my room but of course as expected, she registered her ID with the hotel security guy first. It was a decent session but funny how these girls waste no time in dressing up and leaving after I pop. So forget about any stated time of an hour with these girls as it's more like the sessions are done as soon as you pop.
So for my short stay, I had only two girls. Both were good sessions but in all honesty, I felt that the New Life girl was a bit better for me irregardless of the huge price differences between the daytime casa compared to the hotel bar. The guy who was at the bar claimed that the 300,000 rate is pretty well the going rate these days but 250,000 could be had with some of the girls as far as night time goes.
All the guys there agreed that Hotel M is starting to be run down with crappy towels and much needed renovations. Some said they would stay there again because of the user friendliness while some were quite disappointed with the poor turnouts from Monday to Wednesday. I'm undecided at this point as I think it depends on what my future will be like for subsequent trips to Medellin. If I do just daytime casas like New Life and Energy, then I would not need Hotel M's bar. If I pull from Parque Lleras, I could still use Hotel M with its security but it certainly would not be as easy as just going downstairs anymore and in bad wet weather, Parque Lleras would be pretty crappy. I do still appreciate the opportunity to socialize with other fellow mongers at the hotel though as this means that I don't have to go through these trips totally solo all the time. This hotel bar is probably still good on Thursday to Saturday nights but it was not on my trip schedule this time around so perhaps better planning next time would be warranted.
Hope this report helps out some guys out there.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2952579]These girls were rotating through another waiting room at the same time so I was hoping that my chosen one would not be picked by the other dude there. When the hostess came around, she confirmed that my chosen girl was available to me so I took 30 minutes for 70,000 COP with her.
The lady took me downstairs to a room and after showering, I got a great semi GFE session with her which means kissing was there but CBJ. She also agreed to getting a few photos with me taken with clothes on after our action without asking for any extra[B] so I decided to give her a 2,000 propina anyway.[/B] This session at New Life in my mind certainly made up for last night at the hotel bar.[/QUOTE]You sprung for a 2,000 propina? Wow! You know that is a little less than $0.50, right?
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2952579] I opted to stay at the Hotel Medellin Plaza or more commonly known as the Hotel M mansion again. I know it's overpriced but it turned out to be so user friendly last time with English speaking reception staff, meeting other fellow mongers and the monger bar just downstairs to pull from along with good security.
After relaxing I made my way down to the hotel bar at about 10 pm. In May I had a Thursday, Friday and Saturday night stint there and it was great with enough chicas to choose from. This time on Monday night, I was the only customer there with about five girls inside with only 1-2 I would consider. One of them hit me up for drinks and this is where I made a mistake by agreeing to buy a girl one before committing. As we enjoyed our drinks, I asked if 250,000 COP was acceptable which is what I paid in May assuming that after quotes of 300,000 COP, most girls would agree to go for 250,000. Well to my surprise, this girl refused to go under 300,000 and soon the other girls came as they all started babbling in Spanish. I'm sure that the chica I was talking to was telling the others about our price disagreement and they somehow tried to tell me that none of them would go out for less than 300,000.
I told them that I previously paid 250,000 all the time and mentioned names of two chicas I saw in May. They told me that one of those girls was fired for charging too low which prevented the rest of them from getting any work. I think this was bullcrap since girls working here are all independent. I could have settled for the 300,000 since after conversion, it's only a difference of $20 Cad but I felt that the 'union' of girls there that night caused a less than positive vibe with me so I left opting to go to sleep instead after a long day of travel..[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Hotel M in February and would agree with you 100%. Bath towels like rags, literally, yet they want $100 US each night. Bring your own towels or buy at them at the mall and do not get a room above the bar, it will be noisy until 1 am. But its a good alternative if you want camaraderie.
[QUOTE=Jeffers69;2952403]I'm looking for big ol booties (you don't get those in Europe much), I worry the best will be in Parc Lleras but there is no way I would risk that especially being alone![/QUOTE]Go to the low cost strip clubs. You should find big booties in all of them. Taxi to and from the clubs in centro at night. Don't be wandering the streets.
Its been a while since I have been back. Was wondering with all the tension and aggressive tactics from the mayor how Calle 10 was. Is it dead, will you be harassed by the police for talking to Chicas?
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2952354]Casa de cita, burdel, *****house.[/QUOTE]Thanks to all who replied!
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2952559]Depends what you mean by online. The most dangerous is using apps like Tinder to make connections. There are many many examples of guys meeting dates through Tinder and ending up dead. And many many who ended up getting drugged but surviving, minus their stuff.[/QUOTE]Last November I pulled 7 girls from Tinder. All the experiences were wonderful. I am still alive and kicking. The first Airbnb owner cautioned me about inviting girls. His previous client was robbed and almost died from the drugs. But the tenant specifically brought the girl over to have a drug orgy in the apartment. Now if you sign up for a stupid thing like that, what would you expect? I speak reasonable Spanish, always video chat with the girls (Tinder, Facebook) making sure they are not allowed to use drugs in my apartment. Bring their Cedula, registered them at the front desk and always do a short time session. I only do TLN with girls I know from previous trips. I have been to Medellin many times and never had a problem. Speaking Spanish will go a long way!
Bandy.
[QUOTE=Bandy;2952667]Last November I pulled 7 girls from Tinder. All the experiences were wonderful. I am still alive and kicking. [/QUOTE]Z is right. It has a high probability and it is not 100%. Because I want to provide some hint in replying your post so I did one simple search. The image is the first in the result. It actually has less to do with drug. Thinking ID check or severance video will keep you safe is mistake. It's good to have them but they won't keep you safe 100% and many don't care.
If you don't know Spanish (outside of a few words), should you just stick to casas? Sounds like casas are easy and cheap but also don't have the hottest girls, and the fact that you have to tip for BBBJ means that BBBFS might be hard or impossible.
Seems like bare can only be achieved with a bit of negotiation, and are more common with Tinder / Facebook / Seeking girls while nightclub / street walkers are hit or miss there. But to even play that game, you need some Spanish.
Disclaimer: have never been to Colombia.
Planning to travel with my friends to Medellin soon. Could if friend have been to Medellin but this is my first time. Travelling from different cities so arriving times will be different. The best flight for me arrives late night and my friends arrive in the morning. Is it safe to hangout in the airport for more than 7 - 8 hours. My buddy who visited couple of times says it's not recommended to take Uber to the Airbnb late at night. Or should I take a hotel near airport and stay the night. And maybe get some action in before my friends arrive.
TIA.
[QUOTE=StyleX;2952685]If you don't know Spanish (outside of a few words), should you just stick to casas? Sounds like casas are easy and cheap but also don't have the hottest girls, and the fact that you have to tip for BBBJ means that BBBFS might be hard or impossible.
Seems like bare can only be achieved with a bit of negotiation, and are more common with Tinder / Facebook / Seeking girls while nightclub / street walkers are hit or miss there. But to even play that game, you need some Spanish.
Disclaimer: have never been to Colombia.[/QUOTE]You actually don't. Google Translate works just fine for women on the streets. Os it slow and cumbersome, sure but, it is not like you are trying to date and find a gg using translation software. For short term entanglements, it works just fine.
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[QUOTE=JellyBear;2952799]Planning to travel with my friends to Medellin soon. Could if friend have been to Medellin but this is my first time. Travelling from different cities so arriving times will be different. The best flight for me arrives late night and my friends arrive in the morning. Is it safe to hangout in the airport for more than 7 - 8 hours. My buddy who visited couple of times says it's not recommended to take Uber to the Airbnb late at night. Or should I take a hotel near airport and stay the night. And maybe get some action in before my friends arrive.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Walking distance from the airport (just a short walk) is a nice little hotel with food. Just walk there and get some food and rest. Then walk back in the morning. We've used it when an outgoing flight cancels. [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/cuf2Kkm5Tp5eWW988[/URL].
Thanks for report. I noticed that Thursday and Friday nights are busiest for the bar next door to Hotel M in terms of quantity and quality of the girls. I don't stay at that hotel anymore but I visit the bar time to time because I think the girls you find there are cool generally and the risk is minimized when picking up girls from there.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2952579]After a first trip to Medellin in May, I made a quick return visit this past week staying only three nights since I had spent the weekend doing the Panama City scene with an old college buddy. Copa Airlines has a deal right now where a stopover in Panama was free of charge. This time my Medellin stay would be from Monday to Thursday and I opted to stay at the Hotel Medellin Plaza or more commonly known as the Hotel M mansion again. I know it's overpriced but it turned out to be so user friendly last time with English speaking reception staff, meeting other fellow mongers and the monger bar just downstairs to pull from along with good security.
The immigration lines in the afternoon were terrible as it took my 1. 5 hours to get through. Then at the counter, once again I was directed to the 'Canadian' booth where I had to pay a $94 Cad entry fee due to some trade spat Colombia and Canada has. Anyway after getting through I made my way to the cheap airport buses which all the locals take for 15,500 COP which is what I took in May. This is by far the cheapest way into the city. I got off at their stop near San Diego Mall and ordered an Uber to the hotel. No need for costly taxis from the airport. Once checked in I went out across the main street to Ovienda Mall which has a nice food court in the lower level with lots of choices at decent prices. Then went over to the 24 hour pharmacy across from Ovienda Mall to pick up some stuff for my room.
After relaxing I made my way down to the hotel bar at about 10 pm. In May I had a Thursday, Friday and Saturday night stint there and it was great with enough chicas to choose from. This time on Monday night, I was the only customer there with about five girls inside with only 1-2 I would consider. One of them hit me up for drinks and this is where I made a mistake by agreeing to buy a girl one before committing. As we enjoyed our drinks, I asked if 250,000 COP was acceptable which is what I paid in May assuming that after quotes of 300,000 COP, most girls would agree to go for 250,000. Well to my surprise, this girl refused to go under 300,000 and soon the other girls came as they all started babbling in Spanish. I'm sure that the chica I was talking to was telling the others about our price disagreement and they somehow tried to tell me that none of them would go out for less than 300,000.
I told them that I previously paid 250,000 all the time and mentioned names of two chicas I saw in May. They told me that one of those girls was fired for charging too low which prevented the rest of them from getting any work. I think this was bullcrap since girls working here are all independent. I could have settled for the 300,000 since after conversion, it's only a difference of $20 Cad but I felt that the 'union' of girls there that night caused a less than positive vibe with me so I left opting to go to sleep instead after a long day of travel.
The next morning I decided to Uber it out to the New Life casa to get some action after getting nothing the night before. I've been to New Life once before and had a great time there. This time I once again went through the blue door and got buzzed up where a lady host was waiting. After directed to a waiting room, a line up of about 15 girls came by one at a time introducing themselves. Overall the quality was crap in my opinion as most of them were fatties although I'm sure some customers who like beefier woman might like them. Luckily for me, there were two slim ones who were acceptable to me and the last one in the line up was just my type. These girls were rotating through another waiting room at the same time so I was hoping that my chosen one would not be picked by the other dude there. When the hostess came around, she confirmed that my chosen girl was available to me so I took 30 minutes for 70,000 COP with her.
The lady took me downstairs to a room and after showering, I got a great semi GFE session with her which means kissing was there but CBJ. She also agreed to getting a few photos with me taken with clothes on after our action without asking for any extra so I decided to give her a 2,000 propina anyway. This session at New Life in my mind certainly made up for last night at the hotel bar.
I didn't realize there was a rainy season in Medellin as the rain started coming down for the evening. I was going to go down to the hotel bar again but decided to just relax in my room for the night since I already had my fun at New Life and thought it would be pretty crappy if it turned out that I ran out of leche for a night session at a much higher price.
The next day I took a day trip to Guatape which is the most colourful little town I've ever been to and also climbed up Piedra El Peno to get some awesome views of the area. To get there, I just took Uber to the North Terminal for buses where at counter #14, the 20,000 COP local bus takes you to Guatape in two hours. This is a day trip I totally recommend as part of the touristy things to do while in Medellin.
For my final night which was Wedesday, I decided to go down to the hotel bar again. Since it started to rain again, I was not going to go out to Parque Lleras or anywhere else. Got down to the bar again at about 10 pm and this time bumped into some cool dudes also staying at the hotel which was great. This is one of the benefits of staying at hotel M because one can meet fellow mongers and share intel plus experiences from not only Medellin but worldwide. One of the guys there I met back in May was also there this night and he just came back from Thailand which is where I'm headed to this November. His insights from his recent trip were quite useful for my upcoming trip.
The bar had only about five or six girls again but they were different from the ones on Monday fortunately. I did pick one out and when she asked me for a drink, I learned my lesson from last time as I wanted to make sure that this was a chica I would likely take before wasting my time and money on drinks. I asked her about rates and she quoted 350,000. I countered at 300,000 thinking that 250,000 would be too far a stretch and she promptly agreed at 300,000 so I bought her a drink. After drinks, I took her back to my room but of course as expected, she registered her ID with the hotel security guy first. It was a decent session but funny how these girls waste no time in dressing up and leaving after I pop. So forget about any stated time of an hour with these girls as it's more like the sessions are done as soon as you pop.
So for my short stay, I had only two girls. Both were good sessions but in all honesty, I felt that the New Life girl was a bit better for me irregardless of the huge price differences between the daytime casa compared to the hotel bar. The guy who was at the bar claimed that the 300,000 rate is pretty well the going rate these days but 250,000 could be had with some of the girls as far as night time goes.
All the guys there agreed that Hotel M is starting to be run down with crappy towels and much needed renovations. Some said they would stay there again because of the user friendliness while some were quite disappointed with the poor turnouts from Monday to Wednesday. I'm undecided at this point as I think it depends on what my future will be like for subsequent trips to Medellin. If I do just daytime casas like New Life and Energy, then I would not need Hotel M's bar. If I pull from Parque Lleras, I could still use Hotel M with its security but it certainly would not be as easy as just going downstairs anymore and in bad wet weather, Parque Lleras would be pretty crappy. I do still appreciate the opportunity to socialize with other fellow mongers at the hotel though as this means that I don't have to go through these trips totally solo all the time. This hotel bar is probably still good on Thursday to Saturday nights but it was not on my trip schedule this time around so perhaps better planning next time would be warranted.
Hope this report helps out some guys out there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2952579]After relaxing I made my way down to the hotel bar at about 10 pm One of them hit me up for drinks and this is where I made a mistake by agreeing to buy a girl one before committing. As we enjoyed our drinks, I asked if 250,000 COP was acceptable which is what I paid in May assuming that after quotes of 300,000 COP, most girls would agree to go for 250,000. Well to my surprise, this girl refused to go under 300,000 I told them that I previously paid 250,000 all the time and mentioned names of two chicas I saw in May. They told me that one of those girls was fired for charging too low which prevented the rest of them from getting any work. I think this was bullcrap since girls working here are all independent. ... For my final night which was Wedesday, I decided to go down to the hotel bar again. ... The bar had only about five or six girls again but they were different from the ones on Monday fortunately. I did pick one out and when she asked me for a drink, I learned my lesson from last time as I wanted to make sure that this was a chica I would likely take before wasting my time and money on drinks. I asked her about rates and she quoted 350,000. I countered at 300,000 thinking that 250,000 would be too far a stretch and she promptly agreed at 300,000 so I bought her a drink. It was a decent session but funny how these girls waste no time in dressing up and leaving after I pop. So forget about any stated time of an hour with these girls as it's more like the sessions are done as soon as you pop.[/QUOTE]Just because in the past, in times of desperation, girls have agreed to $250 k doesn't make that the going rate. The going rate is really $300-400 k COP or $75-$100 USD. If you focus on negotiating a girl down to the bottom-acceptable-rate, you should not be surprised that the girl will just want to offer the bottom-acceptable-service.
My advice is to not sweat that $25 different and just give them $400 k and you will find the girls are in no-rush, take their time, hang out, etc. You met their goal for the night, so they are in no hurry to try to find another opportunity. Personally, I never offer them anything specific. If a new girl who doesn't know me inquires I only answer "don't worry, I'll take care of you". Then I feel comfort in giving them between $350 k (if disappointed) to $500 k (for that rare really amazing one I plan to keep seeing). I pay what it is worth to me, the girls have spread the word I am a reliable one and if you make me happy, I pay more so no one ever asks me how much, they hang as long as I want them to, and never are rushed or concerned.
When I talk to these girls, they are always telling me about the cheap guys who negotiate them down to bare bones pricing and how they are disgusted by their cheapness. I can see if that is how they feel about it, how that directly leads to terrible / quick service. They feel the pressure to get going to see if they can find another opportunity to make up the loss revenue.
Also, regarding drinks. $3 USD for a drink is nothing. I'm always identifying 2-3 favorites and giving them drinks on me, they then introduce me new girls, hang with me, and even screen girls for me. A little generosity not only makes you feel like a king but gets you real VIP style treatment. Want to really make them happy? Offer spend $10 USD on some Rappi and get them some fried chicken.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2952942]Just because in the past, in times of desperation, girls have agreed to $250 k doesn't make that the going rate. The going rate is really $300-400 k COP or $75-$100 USD[/QUOTE]I hope you are referring only to the chicas at the Mansion. I have many friends who are happy to receive 250 mil. I know they are happy because many of them contact me to ask when they can return. I'm confident my friends are better in all aspects than almost all the Mansion chicas. I've only stayed at the Mansion three days, a few years ago. The reports I'm seeing are that the quality of the chicas is going down, not getting better.
I don't care what anyone else pays. I just want to clarify that the rates you stated do not apply outside the Mansion and, probably, Parque Lleras.
[QUOTE=JellyBear;2952799]Planning to travel with my friends to Medellin soon. Could if friend have been to Medellin but this is my first time. Travelling from different cities so arriving times will be different. The best flight for me arrives late night and my friends arrive in the morning. Is it safe to hangout in the airport for more than 7 - 8 hours. My buddy who visited couple of times says it's not recommended to take Uber to the Airbnb late at night. Or should I take a hotel near airport and stay the night. And maybe get some action in before my friends arrive.TIA.[/QUOTE]I definitely wouldn't hang out at the airport for 7 - 8 hours. Not because of the lack of safety, but because it is so uncomfortable. If you already have the Airbnb rented for that night, that's where I'd go. You can take the white airport taxi into Medellin. They have a drop-off point, but usually the driver will take you to where you are staying for 15-20 mil extra. Or you can take an Uber. Just check to see that the driver has more than a few reviews. Either method should be safe.
It will be difficult to find a chica near the airport.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2952620]Go to the low cost strip clubs. You should find big booties in all of them. Taxi to and from the clubs in centro at night. Don't be wandering the streets.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, any suggestions for the low cost ones? So many 😅.
Also anyone in Medellin at the moment up for a drink?
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2952579] I got off at their stop near San Diego Mall and ordered an Uber to the hotel. [/QUOTE]By chance do you remember which autobus the name of the destination diplayed on the bus. It's good to know if I stay near the San Diego mall, instead of the usual el Centro one.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2952579] She also agreed to getting a few photos with me taken with clothes on after our action without asking for any extra so I decided to give her a 2,000 propina anyway. [/QUOTE]In some degree you probably over paid by giving her anything, since she had her clothes on and didn't asked for anything. But good job on not giving her a ridiculous tip for really doing nothing. I always give them what they agree upon up front. From my experience the ones that don't want to do-barely anything or the the bare minimal are ones that bust your chops for a propina at the end.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2952955]I definitely wouldn't hang out at the airport for 7 - 8 hours. Not because of the lack of safety, but because it is so uncomfortable. If you already have the Airbnb rented for that night, that's where I'd go. You can take the white airport taxi into Medellin. They have a drop-off point, but usually the driver will take you to where you are staying for 15-20 mil extra. Or you can take an Uber. Just check to see that the driver has more than a few reviews. Either method should be safe.
[B)] It will be difficult to find a chica near the airport.[/B] [/QUOTE]Actually I have heard that there is a small street scene in the town of Rio Negro near the airport. Some of the vennies I used to see would go work there on the weekends and then come back to Medellin during the week.
As far as staying in the airport overnight tho that would be incredibly boring, especially that airport it's so small and has only a cpl restaurants which are all inside the terminal last security. Unless if he wants to hang out at Juan valdez drinking coffee the whole time or eating empanada at that small street food type area in the outside part then I wouldn't advise that.
Dude should just hop. On the bus to san diego for 15,500 COP. I believe from the airport to Medellin the busses are 24 hours a day they only have hours when leaving from Medellin to the airport. He could easily get out COP currency at one of the atms inside the airport and then hop on the bus to San diego and then take a taxi or Uber / Indrive to his airbnb or hotel no matter what time it is.
Gabacho.
[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2952989]By chance do you remember which autobus the name of the destination diplayed on the bus. It's good to know if I stay near the San Diego mall, instead of the usual el Centro one.[/QUOTE]Just ask the driver "va para san diego?" if he says si then that's the bus you want, if he says no then that's the other one that goes to terminal del Norte and centro. Usually if he says no he will point out the correct bus that does go to San Diego which is usually the one in front parked up more.
[QUOTE=JellyBear;2952799]Planning to travel with my friends to Medellin soon.[/QUOTE]On top of what Fun Luvr suggested, Google MDE taxi and you will find more info than what we can type here. You can look for the Medellin Guru web site. You can prebook a car too.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2952419]I did get the BBBJ after complaining and giving her the option to leave, and I did penetrate her, though she resisted like it was a wresting match. I thought 200 K was a fair portion for what she had earned and paid her that. She did not complain as she was putting on her close, so it was fair for her also. About $55 US. After she left I jacked off and went to sleep.[/QUOTE]Do you, man. With 200 K I saw 3 girls in one day, busted with each one. Planning a trip at the end of December to January and going to hit Cartagena too. Might see 20+ while I'm down there, LOL. We'll see.
[QUOTE=CK465;2953003]Do you, man. With 200 K I saw 3 girls in one day, busted with each one. Planning a trip at the end of December to January and going to hit Cartagena too. Might see 20+ while I'm down there, LOL. We'll see.[/QUOTE]Unless Cartagena is a bucket list thing, may I suggest totally skipping if your going there for mongering (your about 5 years late) for that type of trip! Good luck any no matter what you do have fun, travel safe! !
[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2952989]By chance do you remember which autobus the name of the destination diplayed on the bus. It's good to know if I stay near the San Diego mall, instead of the usual el Centro one.
.[/QUOTE]The bus from the airport is at the far right when you exit the arrivals terminal and the name of the company is Combus. It is the only bus line there and at the front of the bus is the cost at 15,500 at present. It stops only at two places mainly which is near San Diego Mall near the underpass of the road and Nutra Hotel in Centro.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2952942] I pay what it is worth to me, the girls have spread the word I am a reliable one and if you make me happy, I pay more so no one ever asks me how much, they hang as long as I want them to, and never are rushed or concerned.
When I talk to these girls, they are always telling me about the cheap guys who negotiate them down to bare bones pricing and how they are disgusted by their cheapness. I can see if that is how they feel about it, how that directly leads to terrible / quick service. They feel the pressure to get going to see if they can find another opportunity to make up the loss revenue.
Also, regarding drinks. $3 USD for a drink is nothing. I'm always identifying 2-3 favorites and giving them drinks on me, they then introduce me new girls, hang with me, and even screen girls for me. A little generosity not only makes you feel like a king but gets you real VIP style treatment. Want to really make them happy? Offer spend $10 USD on some Rappi and get them some fried chicken.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your insights. Things to think about for next time when I return in 2025. Live and learn.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2953014]The bus from the airport is at the far right when you exit the arrivals terminal and the name of the company is Combus. It is the only bus line there and at the front of the bus is the cost at 15,500 at present. It stops only at two places mainly which is near San Diego Mall near the underpass of the road and Nutra Hotel in Centro.[/QUOTE]Yea but there are two different routes, he needs to make sure he gets. On the one that goes to San Diego. The other one that goes to nuttibara hotel doesn't stop at San Diego and it takes a much longer route bypassing the tunnel and it takes a much longer time to get to Medellin.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2952942]Just because in the past, in times of desperation, girls have agreed to $250 k doesn't make that the going rate. The going rate is really $300-400 k COP or $75-$100 USD. If you focus on negotiating a girl down to the bottom-acceptable-rate, you should not be surprised that the girl will just want to offer the bottom-acceptable-service.
My advice is to not sweat that $25 different and just give them $400 k and you will find the girls are in no-rush, take their time, hang out, etc. You met their goal for the night, so they are in no hurry to try to find another opportunity. Personally, I never offer them anything specific. If a new girl who doesn't know me inquires I only answer "don't worry, I'll take care of you". Then I feel comfort in giving them between $350 k (if disappointed) to $500 k (for that rare really amazing one I plan to keep seeing). I pay what it is worth to me, the girls have spread the word I am a reliable one and if you make me happy, I pay more so no one ever asks me how much, they hang as long as I want them to, and never are rushed or concerned.
When I talk to these girls, they are always telling me about the cheap guys who negotiate them down to bare bones pricing and how they are disgusted by their cheapness. I can see if that is how they feel about it, how that directly leads to terrible / quick service. They feel the pressure to get going to see if they can find another opportunity to make up the loss revenue.
Also, regarding drinks. $3 USD for a drink is nothing. I'm always identifying 2-3 favorites and giving them drinks on me, they then introduce me new girls, hang with me, and even screen girls for me. A little generosity not only makes you feel like a king but gets you real VIP style treatment. Want to really make them happy? Offer spend $10 USD on some Rappi and get them some fried chicken.[/QUOTE]Dance with the devil enough you will get burned. You'll run into the wrong one eventually if your not being clear and upfront about pricing. I would not recommend anyone to take your approach of not negotiating an actual price. One day you will get an expectation for 2 or 3 milliones from the wrong girl. Think it can't happen. It can and does eventually. Overpay, underpay whatever floats your boat. Just be clear to avoid issues.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2952579]So for my short stay[/QUOTE]In the future get the number of the girls you like and make your offer for next day. 250 is a reasonable amount, there is no reason to pay much more. You will have more confidence once you have more contacts. I think it actually exposed your weakness when you told the girl the name of other girl during negotiation.
Keep in mind, not every girl is the same, you are different from others as well. You have to be able to see the context. The girl that stay with me longer is because 1. I am a repeat business and 2. I am always available. Would you stay longer if you know you won't see your customer again? There are other factors. You should see them if you read between the lines.
You can ask the girl to stay the 1 hour she has agreed to if you have it in writing. You can deduct the pay if she leaves early. It does not always work but some will stay. If you are in a good building that the doorman will help you, you are more likely to have success paying a reduced amount when the girl insist on leaving early. I am not suggesting or recommending that you do it, It is for information purpose.
I was wondering why a girl had no money saved when I think she should be popular. I found out it was because she was lazy and didn't work regularly. She was desperate for work only when she ran out of money. In her situation, do you think you need to pay her 500 to get better performance than paying her 200.
Majority of the girls I know pay very little in rent and food. They only need 100 mil for food a week. A girl I know recently moved to an estrato 3 apartment for 700 mil a month. Many of them pay less than that.
Just some examples to think about, and I hope you get the idea what I am trying to convey.
[QUOTE=CK465;2953003]Do you, man. With 200 K I saw 3 girls in one day, busted with each one. Planning a trip at the end of December to January and going to hit Cartagena too. Might see 20+ while I'm down there, LOL. We'll see.[/QUOTE]You definitely will not be pulling that off in Cartagena. You better double it to see 1 girl.
It is even easier than that. The routes are displayed above the bus windshields. To confirm, no Spanish is needed, you can say "San Diego" in the heaviest gringo accent and the driver will motion you aboard or gesture toward another bus or waiting line if the other bus hasn't arrived.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2952993]Just ask the driver "va para san diego?" if he says si then that's the bus you want, if he says no then that's the other one that goes to terminal del Norte and centro. Usually if he says no he will point out the correct bus that does go to San Diego which is usually the one in front parked up more.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jeffers69;2952983]Thanks man, any suggestions for the low cost ones? [/QUOTE]Most of the ones in el centro are close together, so go until you find what you like. Chicas usually don't stay at a strip club very long. What you see today may not be there tomorrow.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2953206]Most of the ones in el centro are close together, so go until you find what you like. Chicas usually don't stay at a strip club very long. What you see today may not be there tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Thank you going to try a few today (in the day), will report back (although I know it's Tuesday, and the day after a national holiday).
I have been hinting high and low and can't find any short term hotels that ask for ID near Parc Lleras, is there a space on the forum that has these? If anyone knows I'd be very grateful!
Can anyone tell me what the chica policy is at the Art Hotel?
My last trip to Medellin was in 2019. In all my trips up to then I gave detailed reports of my casa exploits but this site has moved away from the casa experience so I will not bore you with details. What I will report is that I have observed two main differences from back then and neither is good.
The first one is the absence of the hot Venezuelanas. In 2019 I sessioned many really sensational Vennies. Now there seem to be only Colombianas and many gordas as has been reported before. Nevertheless, there are some reasonably sized chicas to be found (I do not like plus sized nor flakitas). I think it was on the Medellin forum that a poster was anxious about getting the big booty chicas, well, believe me, he won't be disappointed in the casas.
The second difference is the decline in service. I have encountered too many dead fishes who put no zeal in the session and, what's with the upselling, BBBJ, DATY, DFK are all being upsold and one chica even tried to upsell me sucking on her nipples.
I have three more weeks here and really hope that things improve. I am hoping that I just made some bad choices when choosing the hottest chicas in the lineup, perhaps I should try some of the bigger girls, not too big though.
Another difference that's not really important is the absence of gringos in the casas. Its really like the old times (Colombian chicas and Colombian clients). What happened to the brothas? They were in abundance in my last visit. The quality may be down in the casas but not the quantity. New Life had about 30 today. BTW, speaking of New Life I saw a 9 in there on two occasions and each time she was going to the room with a client. I suspect what I have always suspected about New Life in that they have girls they reserve for special customers as she has never been in the lineup. 5 foot 7 inches, slim, great body and amazing face. Perhaps starfish experience but I would not hesitate to choose her.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2953263]My last trip to Medellin was in 2019. In all my trips up to then I gave detailed reports of my casa exploits but this site has moved away from the casa experience so I will not bore you with details. .[/QUOTE]Tried to send you a message but your inbox is full. I definitely frequent a few casas in addition to Facebook and contacts. Info on casas is always welcome. I still think they can be a good value at the right spot with the right attitude. I recently joined a Colombian telegram group with reviews of girls and adds for a lot of casas. Happy to forward you pr anyone else the link over private message. There are a couple I saw on the Telegram group I want to try when I'm back in Medellin in a couple of weeks.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2953274]Tried to send you a message but your inbox is full. I definitely frequent a few casas in addition to Facebook and contacts. Info on casas is always welcome. I still think they can be a good value at the right spot with the right attitude. I recently joined a Colombian telegram group with reviews of girls and adds for a lot of casas. Happy to forward you pr anyone else the link over private message. There are a couple I saw on the Telegram group I want to try when I'm back in Medellin in a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]Hi Recondite. I have sent you a PM.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2953263]My last trip to Medellin was in 2019. In all my trips up to then I gave detailed reports of my casa exploits but this site has moved away from the casa experience so I will not bore you with details. What I will report is that I have observed two main differences from back then and neither is good.[/QUOTE]I've only been to New Life both last week and my first trip in May. I liked my visits there and would definitely go again when I'm back in Medellin plus I would be open to trying Energy as well. One thing I do like about the casas besides the better pricing compared to night options is that everything is shifted to the day time. I personally don't like staying out and up so late. I just don't understand why the Hotel M bar, Parque Lleras and other night options start so darn late. I for one prefer to be busy with both sight seeing and getting in a session during the day. For my next trip down there, I might even move more towards the casas as my main outlet rather than the bars and Parque Lleras.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2953274]Tried to send you a message but your inbox is full. I definitely frequent a few casas in addition to Facebook and contacts. Info on casas is always welcome. I still think they can be a good value at the right spot with the right attitude. I recently joined a Colombian telegram group with reviews of girls and adds for a lot of casas. Happy to forward you pr anyone else the link over private message. There are a couple I saw on the Telegram group I want to try when I'm back in Medellin in a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]Sent you a pm, would love to coordinate with others. Hell, happy to make friends on the ground when I arrive.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2953306]I've only been to New Life both last week and my first trip in May. I liked my visits there and would definitely go again when I'm back in Medellin plus I would be open to trying Energy as well. One thing I do like about the casas besides the better pricing compared to night options is that everything is shifted to the day time. I personally don't like staying out and up so late. I just don't understand why the Hotel M bar, Parque Lleras and other night options start so darn late. I for one prefer to be busy with both sight seeing and getting in a session during the day. For my next trip down there, I might even move more towards the casas as my main outlet rather than the bars and Parque Lleras.[/QUOTE]If you like parque lleras check out plaza botero / vera cruz church area. The majority of the street girls are the same and unlike parque lleras the action is during the day and at a fraction of the cost because it is geared toward locals whereas lleras is geared towards gringo foreigners.
And regardless of what some guys say here, there are some real beautiful diamonds in the rough to be found there and the area is not dangerous during the daytime hours.
Hope this helps.
-Gabacho.
Gabacho is right.
Park Lleras is mostly hardened, ugly, tatted freaks.
Around the Vera Cruz church at Plaza Botero there are many nice, fresh, hot girls, Colombians and Venezuelans. They charge about $10 for ST, easier to deal with and are much better companies. I repeated with a few very nice girls and gave their tels to a few bros. They liked those girls.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2953335]If you like parque lleras check out plaza botero / vera cruz church area. The majority of the street girls are the same and unlike parque lleras the action is during the day and at a fraction of the cost because it is geared toward locals whereas lleras is geared towards gringo foreigners.
And regardless of what some guys say here, there are some real beautiful diamonds in the rough to be found there and the area is not dangerous during the daytime hours.
Hope this helps.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2953335]If you like parque lleras check out plaza botero / vera cruz church area. The majority of the street girls are the same and unlike parque lleras the action is during the day and at a fraction of the cost because it is geared toward locals whereas lleras is geared towards gringo foreigners.
And regardless of what some guys say here, there are some real beautiful diamonds in the rough to be found there and the area is not dangerous during the daytime hours.
Hope this helps.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]100 percent agree. A couple weeks ago found a fresh 18 year old Vennie with a hot little body and really pretty face and smile. She asked 50 mil but agreed to 40. Think the room was 15 more if I remember correctly.
After that found another hot Vennie in one of the bars across from Botero Plaza. She would not go lower than 100 mil but was well worth it. I think most still charge 80 though.
So I think the reason the Vennies aren't in the casas anymore is they have moved to these two areas. And yeah feels very safe until dark.
Many years ago I checked out Parque Lleras and just found it to be a tourist trap which I always avoid anywhere in the world I travel to. The street girls in Centro are not my scene; I have walked through those areas and have seen doable chicas but never pulled the trigger. I have indeed partaken of street girls in places such as the Catacombs in Chang Ping, China (many years ago), Geylang in Singapore (many years ago), Sosua, DR and Sonagashi, India but the street scene in Colombia never appealed to me as there are palpably better options. In the past I have made dates with diamonds in the rough from casas outside their place of work where we ended up in short time hotels for our frolics in the sack. Much prefer that than with an untried and untested street walker. Have not met any diamonds yet this trip but hopeful.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2953335]If you like parque lleras check out plaza botero / vera cruz church area. The majority of the street girls are the same and unlike parque lleras the action is during the day and at a fraction of the cost because it is geared toward locals whereas lleras is geared towards gringo foreigners.
And regardless of what some guys say here, there are some real beautiful diamonds in the rough to be found there and the area is not dangerous during the daytime hours.
Hope this helps.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]I am in Medellin and have been to El Centro a number of times and Park Llleras a number of times. I disagree that the majority of street girls are the same in both El Centro and Park Llleras. While it may be true that SOME of the girls may be the same, I don't think that it is true that most are the same based on my personal experience. I don't see the pretty girls in Park Lleras hanging around in El Centro. But it is true that there are average looking girls in both places. I think that there are more attractive girls in Park Lleras on the whole. Most of the girls in El Centro are unattractive and I don't think there can be disagreement on that because it is the lowest of the low in terms of prices and that is where you would expect the worse girls to be. Now it is possible to find a small number of attractive girls in El Centro if you are diligent, particularly girls from Venz. Due to the identification card issue.
Guys who love El Centro want to think that they are paying less for the exact same girl in Park Lleras. Whether it is true or not, they tend to be bias in believing this. On the other hand, guys picking up girls in Park Llleras want to think that the girls that they are picking up are not the same girls in El Centro so they are bias in this manner. All I can tell you is that I don't pick up girls from either places so I could care less.
[QUOTE=CK465;2952224]Why are you paying that much for a crappy experience? You clearly didn't have a good time and it seems like the first time you two met. You can get a way better experience at a Casa for way cheaper. Doesn't make sense IMO.[/QUOTE]I guess its bcos there are so many on here that write about paying 200,300, 400 , or more, even for a short time session, that they normalise paying high prices in the eyes of new readers here. Tell a lie so many times then it becomes the truth.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2952942]The going rate is really $300-400 k COP or $75-$100 USD. If you focus on negotiating a girl down to the bottom-acceptable-rate, you should not be surprised that the girl will just want to offer the bottom-acceptable-service.
My advice is to not sweat that $25 different and just give them $400 k and you will find the girls are in no-rush, take their time, hang out, etc. Then I feel comfort in giving them between $350 k (if disappointed) to $500 k (for that rare really amazing one I plan to keep seeing). [/QUOTE]See what I mean?
I did my first day in Medellin yesterday (thanks to all the help here).
I visited Centro in the day, Botero park, calle 52/53, then Parc Lleras in the evening, followed by Barra Ejecutivo, Playmates and Fase II. Came close to going to Mayorista but thankfully read it is dead now.
This really is the wild west / gritty (and I have punted in Philippines, Thailand, Korea, Geylang etc). Certainly not as easy as Thailand! I bare in mind that it was Tuesday but I think you really need to get your hands dirty to meet your desired women here. Found the women in the 3 strip bars quite lacking, Fase II women quite pushy, Ejecutivo my favourite of the 3 and I think has potential closer towards the end of the week. There is a lot of BBL here (not my cup of tea) and I'm missing the naturally bigger assed women I though Colombia was known for).
Like I say I have only been here one day so I clearly have a lot to discover (and am having fun). Think I'll try a Centro woman today, or maybe a Casa, seems the higher chance of meeting posterior gifted woman (haven't shagged yet!
On a non punting level, El Poblares is lovely, it however feels like a "digital nomads" wet dream, and is very much Westernised. Centro is Colombia, so much more fun and feels like you are in another country. Medellin feels a lot safer than I feared (I continue to maintain alertness and careful with possessions however).
Might hit Sosua or stay here for a while longer, will see how it goes, and will report any info I get.
I did my first day in Medellin yesterday (thanks to all the help here).
I visited Centro in the day, Botero park, calle 52/53, then Parc Lleras in the evening, followed by Barra Ejecutivo, Playmates and Fase II. Came close to going to Mayorista but thankfully read it is dead now.
This really is the wild west / gritty (and I have punted in Philippines, Thailand, Korea, Geylang etc). Certainly not as easy as Thailand! I bare in mind that it was Tuesday but I think you really need to get your hands dirty to meet your desired women here. Found the women in the 3 strip bars quite lacking, Fase II women quite pushy, Ejecutivo my favourite of the 3 and I think has potential closer towards the end of the week. There is a lot of BBL here (not my cup of tea) and I'm missing the naturally bigger assed women I though Colombia was known for).
Like I say I have only been here one day so I clearly have a lot to discover (and am having fun). Think I'll try an Centro woman today, or maybe a Casa, seems the higher chance of meeting posterior gifted woman.
On a non punting level, El Poblado is lovely, it however feels like a "digital nomads" wet dream, and is very much Westernised. Centro is Colombia, so much more fun and feels like you are in another country. Medellin feels a lot safer than I feared (I continue to maintain alertness and careful with possessions however).
Might hit Sosua or stay here for a while longer, will see how it goes, and will report any info I get.
If anyone fancies teaming up or a beer let me know.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2952942]When I talk to these girls, they are always telling me about the cheap guys who negotiate them down to bare bones pricing and how they are disgusted by their cheapness. I can see if that is how they feel about it, how that directly leads to terrible / quick service. They feel the pressure to get going to see if they can find another opportunity to make up the loss revenue.
[/QUOTE]That is hilarious. Listening to a hooker that tells you guys should want to pay more, when they are already paying way too much. They are not disgusted by the fact that they are hookers, just disgusted that guys do not want to give them more money. They are not going to stay any longer or do any more for 300 K, than they are for 250 K.
What lost revenue? They started from 0! Anything they take in is gained revenue. They can not count on what they MIGHT or COULD get. Hell, so they should blow off the 500 K guy because they might "lose revenue" messing with him by missing the imaginary guy who is going to come in and pay 1,000,000? Yeah just wait 30 more minutes chick; he will be here shortly. They had better learn to take what is on offer or go home empty.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2953521]See what I mean?[/QUOTE]He's referring to Mansion bar chicas wanting that price.
Today I met my first Vennie this trip. The lineup at Chicas punto com of about 10 girls was presented to me and as soon as I saw her I knew that she was Venezuelan. I paid COP 70,000 for the half hour and the session was going so well I extended by another half hour for the same price. In previous trips Chicas punto com was always able to provide me with Vennies. Sofia delivered reasonably good service with various positions accompanied by GFE and a good time was had by all concerned. My beef with Cpc is the habitacion which is rather dingy (although porn was on display). As a matter of fact Centro casa rooms are not very pleasant but as Bob Barker would agree 'the price is right'. Nevertheless, a nice room makes the experience so much better.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2953359]
Around the Vera Cruz church at Plaza Botero there are many nice, fresh, hot girls, Colombians and Venezuelans. They charge about $10 for ST, easier to deal with and are much better companies. I repeated with a few very nice girls and gave their tels to a few bros. They liked those girls.[/QUOTE]Many of the girls you talk about are really nuns or others are travesties, at bargain rates. I hope you did not repeat or enjoy them.
Sharing a quick update.
Don't sleep the casas fellas despites any negative reviews you may read. A recent post mentioned they went in 2019, few pages back someone was talking about casas from his experience in 2011. Come on yall LOL. Even if you went to a casa last month, it's not the same today as they always have new fresh rotation of girls. The one where the wgs stay longer is New Life. Most relaxed and non-rushed feel and appeal bc you pay after you're done. Safe to assume the girls feel comfy there also like we do.
So before I left town about two weeks ago, I gave ZANDALY a try since it was about a year prior that I went; and WOW, 10 girls of which at least 6 were 7+, top 3 were in the 8+ range. I picked one and paid 100 k for the HR. I won't share her name but she was so sweet, gym-built body, total GFE. The rooms and showers in both Amiga Sexy and Zandaly are cleaner vs New Life BTW. So after I got done with the first round in 20 minutes, I didn't mind taking a nice shower, and while putting my drawers on, she was oh baby we got plenty of time, come to bed. A lot girls even in parque lleras where we pay 400 k or more usually don't do that and instead they hope we're done quickly so they can leave. But the fact that she offered a massage, and a second round herself, damn. I got even more turned on and went missionary balls deep that time. First round was doggy pound.
She told me she dated a gringo, then dude left the country so she's back to work and want to leave the industry to open a clothing shop soon. Pillow chat during rest. I was like dude was broke and didn't help you financially enough did he? She laughed and said obviously or wouldn't come back to this.
I fucked up bc she said she'd be happy to join me in Bogota for few days or week for a getaway if I invite her, after I told where I'm headed. But by the time I left I accidently deleted her number. Usually I only keep long-term friends, gfs or chicas saved and delete all casa and centro chicas contacts when I leave, and forgot to keep hers. What made it worse is she wrote me, and I made another error when I replied and told her she got the wrong #, since she never had a zap profile pic. As soon as I deleted the mssg and number I immediately recalled the #. Point is there are some nice gals in those casas, and treat her well if your lucky to meet her.
I said lucky bc unless you go there at 11 A-12, you will likely be sitted in the back room instead of the front couches, and they will present the ugly ones only. I swear they do that there and I confirmed it with a local. Also why I took so long to return. So their secret is go early. Now they open at 10 a I believe, and there were lots of young local fellas there when I arrived at 11 A. All the hot ones get snatched quickly, and it seems management stop presenting the ones that already got smashed 5-10 times early, and after 2 p or so they want to give the other ones a chance. It's business and they do that in Brazil too. For Amiga Sexy, oh sweet jezus I met a solid 9 there about a month back also. Lawd have mercy. Go hunting my lads. Hopefully not all 5000 of you show up at once and damage one of my future wives.
For those who don't scroll down to see all the topics on this forum, Kazeu has a post in the Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments thread about Airbnb's new policy for rentals in Medellin. Here's a link to Airbnb's statement: [URL]https://news.airbnb.com/ea/airbnb-anuncia-nuevas-acciones-para-ayudar-a-combatir-la-explotacion-y-trata-de-personas-en-alianza-con-el-gobierno-de-medellin/[/URL] An excerpt from the statement "If the platform is informed in the future that any host is permissive of sex work during reservations on Airbnb, Airbnb will strictly enforce its policies and take action against those hosts." Also this: "Airbnb will implement this September a measure that requires any guest worldwide who wishes to make a reservation in the city of Medellin to attest that they understand Airbnb's policies that strictly prohibit the use of all accommodations for sex work and/or sex tourism."
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2953580]For those who don't scroll down to see all the topics on this forum, Kazeu has a post in the Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments thread about Airbnb's new policy for rentals in Medellin. Here's a link to Airbnb's statement: [URL]https://news.airbnb.com/ea/airbnb-anuncia-nuevas-acciones-para-ayudar-a-combatir-la-explotacion-y-trata-de-personas-en-alianza-con-el-gobierno-de-medellin/[/URL] An excerpt from the statement "If the platform is informed in the future that any host is permissive of sex work during reservations on Airbnb, Airbnb will strictly enforce its policies and take action against those hosts." Also this: "Airbnb will implement this September a measure that requires any guest worldwide who wishes to make a reservation in the city of Medellin to attest that they understand Airbnb's policies that strictly prohibit the use of all accommodations for sex work and/or sex tourism."[/QUOTE]This is why I prefer [URL]booking.com[/URL], and the owners can't rate you. You get more professional landlords, vs douche bags renting out their apartments and going to stay with their mamas and stuff.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2953560]He's referring to Mansion bar chicas wanting that price.[/QUOTE]Actually, I got my sayings confused, hehe. I meant to hint at the illusory truth. Say something enough times and it becomes the truth, not necessarily meaning a lie.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2953576]Sharing a quick update.
Don't sleep the casas fellas despites any negative reviews you may read. A recent post mentioned they went in 2019, few pages back someone was talking about casas from his experience in 2011. Come on yall LOL. Even if you went to a casa last month, it's not the same today as they always have new fresh rotation of girls. The one where the wgs stay longer is New Life. Most relaxed and non-rushed feel and appeal bc you pay after you're done. Safe to assume the girls feel comfy there also like we do..[/QUOTE]8's and 9's at the cheap casas downtown and GFE performances? If this is true, we should all go down there because that is a great value. Now let you tell you my experience with guys and how they rate girls based on a popular escort review website in the USA. On the website, guys can anonymously rate escorts on a scale of 1 to 10. Time and time again, guys have given 9's and 10's to escorts who I then visit and have been very disappointed with their looks, girls who I would rate as 6's or maybe a low 7.
So what is going on? Are guys lying? I think the answer is no. It is just that they are used to their average or below average looking girlfriends or wives and when they see a girl that is better looking, they think these girls are 8's, 9's and 10's. I don't think this is a bad thing for the guys at all. If you see an above average girl and think she is a 9 or 10, this is a great thing for you. There are more choices out there and in your mind, you are seeing 9's and 10's for a very reasonable price. It is like that movie where the guy is hypnotized into thinking that an average looking fat girl is a supermodel and in that state of mind, he is really happy.
I am not saying that this is happening here, just throwing out a theory. Now I am here in Medellin so I may go down to those casas soon and check out those 8's and 9's with GFE performance for a cheap price. I think it is a great option for guys if true. And, of course, if you don't see those 8's or 9's when you are there, you are just going at the wrong time or the beautiful girls have already been taken.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2953561]Today I met my first Vennie this trip. The lineup at Chicas punto com of about 10 girls was presented to me and as soon as I saw her I knew that she was Venezuelan. I paid COP 70,000 for the half hour and the session was going so well I extended by another half hour for the same price. In previous trips Chicas punto com was always able to provide me with Vennies. Sofia delivered reasonably good service with various positions accompanied by GFE and a good time was had by all concerned. My beef with Cpc is the habitacion which is rather dingy (although porn was on display). As a matter of fact Centro casa rooms are not very pleasant but as Bob Barker would agree 'the price is right'. Nevertheless, a nice room makes the experience so much better.[/QUOTE]Where is Chicas punto com? This is my first time seeing it mentioned.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2953607]This is why I prefer [URL]booking.com[/URL], and the owners can't rate you. You get more professional landlords, vs douche bags renting out their apartments and going to stay with their mamas and stuff.[/QUOTE]Many times we take something simple and make it a problem when in reality there is no problem. Some of us Foreigners expect too much or too entitled.
Firstly when you book an Airbnb you have the option for a room, meaning you will be leaving with other people which could be the landlord or renters, or choose "entire home" in the Airbnb search filter to rent the entire unit. So why write something that's false? Why?
Besides those new rules won't affect those that bring normal guests. Like if you meet a girl from SA or a regular nonpro or semipro, make sure she has an ID and dress appropriately and you'll be fine. Most of my hosts require that I take a pic front and back of all guest Ids and send to them. I do my best not to bring too many, and I get 100% positive reviews in several yrs of traveling.
For the real hookers, that's what cheap $2-5 hourly motels are for. So this problem y'all discussing doesn't truly matter, nothing to lose sleep over.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2953576]......So before I left town about two weeks ago, I gave ZANDALY a try since it was about a year prior that I went; and WOW, 10 girls of which at least 6 were 7+, top 3 were in the 8+ range. I picked one and paid 100 k for the HR. ...........[/QUOTE]Good to read this. It was not my experience when I went there recently but I will certainly give it another try soon.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2953735]Many times we take something simple and make it a problem when in reality there is no problem. Some of us Foreigners expect too much or too entitled.
Firstly when you book an Airbnb you have the option for a room, meaning you will be leaving with other people which could be the landlord or renters, or choose "entire home" in the Airbnb search filter to rent the entire unit. So why write something that's false? Why?[/QUOTE]I don't know what you are referring to as something false. There are "entire home" apartments on airbnb in which the host or his/her friend/relative lives in the apartment when it's not rented.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2953735]Besides those new rules won't affect those that bring normal guests. Like if you meet a girl from SA or a regular nonpro or semipro, make sure she has an ID and dress appropriately and you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]Very seldom do I have more than one visitor per day, and some days I don't have any. If I'm in a building with long term renters, my visitors are always dressed conservatively. I've still had residents complain to the host because I'm old and my visitor is young. I don't party in the apartments, so there's no disturbances. I even had someone call the police because I was in a Frisby's with a young lady and the daughter of a mutual friend.
I think if an Airbnb host gets complaints like I've described, they will get gun-shy and put more restrictions on renters.
I have received positive reviews for every Airbnb rental I've been in, almost ten years.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2953733]8's and 9's at the cheap casas downtown and GFE performances? If this is true, we should all go down there because that is a great value. Now let you tell you my experience with guys and how they rate girls based on a popular escort review website in the USA. On the website, guys can anonymously rate escorts on a scale of 1 to 10. Time and time again, guys have given 9's and 10's to escorts who I then visit and have been very disappointed with their looks, girls who I would rate as 6's or maybe a low 7.
So what is going on? Are guys lying? I think the answer is no. It is just that they are used to their average or below average looking girlfriends or wives and when they see a girl that is better looking, they think these girls are 8's, 9's and 10's. I don't think this is a bad thing for the guys at all. If you see an above average girl and think she is a 9 or 10, this is a great thing for you. There are more choices out there and in your mind, you are seeing 9's and 10's for a very reasonable price. It is like that movie where the guy is hypnotized into thinking that an average looking fat girl is a supermodel and in that state of mind, he is really happy.
I am not saying that this is happening here, just throwing out a theory. Now I am here in Medellin so I may go down to those casas soon and check out those 8's and 9's with GFE performance for a cheap price. I think it is a great option for guys if true. And, of course, if you don't see those 8's or 9's when you are there, you are just going at the wrong time or the beautiful girls have already been taken.[/QUOTE]I have been saying this for months, if not years. You can't judge a boxing match if you don't know shit about boxing. Same thing when it comes to rating women. Average Joe has been fucking whales all his life, any girl who looks better than a whale is automatically hot. Especially is the age gap is 30+ years. Also, some guys don't know what GFE is. One of the posters in the Bogota thread said he got covered BJ, but she was GFE. GTFO LOL. Casas are not meant to provide GFE, cheap casas, expensive casas, doesn't matter. You rarely get GFE there, because the girls are hardened pros and the venue works like a fucking conveyor. Wham bam thank you ma'am type. Heck, you don't want to kiss a girl who just sucked someone's dick 20 minutes ago.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2953744]Good to read this. It was not my experience when I went there recently but I will certainly give it another try soon.[/QUOTE]Zandaly and Chicas Sexi Amigas are not far apart (although you need to cross Oriental) and always had the best chicas back in the day. Let us know what you find now.
[QUOTE=Atldre;2953734]Where is Chicas punto com? This is my first time seeing it mentioned.[/QUOTE]Here's information from a post two years ago. Hope it's still correct. "6. Chicas Punto Com, Cl54 (Caracas)#49-97, piso 2, Inside Centro Comercial Boulevard de Caracas, across from El Cid: Armona Spa, 321 755 51 20. Sat 5 pm, couldn't find 97, but this was the only one on 97 piso2 across EL Cid. 10 chicas. 6/10 rating. ".
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2953773]I have been saying this for months, if not years. You can't judge a boxing match if you don't know shit about boxing. Same thing when it comes to rating women. Average Joe has been fucking whales all his life, any girl who looks better than a whale is automatically hot. Especially is the age gap is 30+ years. Also, some guys don't know what GFE is. One of the posters in the Bogota thread said he got covered BJ, but she was GFE. GTFO LOL. Casas are not meant to provide GFE, cheap casas, expensive casas, doesn't matter. You rarely get GFE there, because the girls are hardened pros and the venue works like a fucking conveyor. Wham bam thank you ma'am type. Heck, you don't want to kiss a girl who just sucked someone's dick 20 minutes ago.[/QUOTE]I agree with you and yes, you have been saying it for a while. You have to accept casa girls for what they are, high volume taking care of business girls. One issue with the more attractive girls is that they will get more business if most guys agree that she is, in fact, attractive. So she is getting a lot of dick every half hour or so every day every week every month. Chances are you are getting her right after another guy just banged her right after another guy just banged her and so on. You have to be a certain type of girl to be able to handle it and I am impressed with girls who can provide decent service guy after guy. These girls are happy with the business and the good ones try to make the guys happy. I know that some guys go to casas and think they are making the girl cum but remember that she is banging a lot of guys and it is her job to make you think that she is enjoying it and that you are special.
That being said, nothing wrong with going to the casas and getting a no-nonsense no games release from an above average looking girl for a low price.
I've always liked zandaly personally. I find they tend to have some thinner girls. You've got to remember they use the lighting in there to their advantage. There are a couple of decent looking girls there even given that. The main thing is I've never had an issue with the quality of service I've gotten there.
Personally I'm curious about Angeles Spa and Chicas Plus. Both are a little higher priced (160 k) for the hour than Zandaly but they post pictures of their girls and have some that look good. I plan on trying one or othwhen I'm in town. Ellas erotic used to be in that bracket but seems to have gone down hill.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2953576]Sharing a quick update.
Don't sleep the casas fellas.[/QUOTE]
I got a chick up in Riohacha that wants to get tag teamed if 2 friends are up for it. Also can do one on one. Please PM me for details. No $ involved.
Also, Have a chick in Barrancabermeja that wants to get creampied by a brotha.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2953771]I don't know what you are referring to as something false. There are "entire home" apartments on airbnb in which the host or his/her friend/relative lives in the apartment when it's not rented.
Very seldom do I have more than one visitor per day, and some days I don't have any. If I'm in a building with long term renters, my visitors are always dressed conservatively. I've still had residents complain to the host because I'm old and my visitor is young. I don't party in the apartments, so there's no disturbances. I even had someone call the police because I was in a Frisby's with a young lady and the daughter of a mutual friend.
I think if an Airbnb host gets complaints like I've described, they will get gun-shy and put more restrictions on renters.
I have received positive reviews for every Airbnb rental I've been in, almost ten years.[/QUOTE]Almost 100% of the Airbnbs I stay in are professional apt building where the host is a realtor with multiple units, not from a Joe who comes in live in the place when it's empty. Especially in Mde and Bog, those apts are always filled quickly. If your neighbor complained about you mult times, then you are doing something wrong LOL.
I didn't reply to you either. I quoted the user "HUACHO" claiming staying w mamas and stuff. Maybe I misread that. Bc I know many travelers rent rooms in Airbnbs and really if your a monger you should have no business renting rooms in people's home where they have children and families. Those are for young travelers and backpackers that also don't mind staying in cheap $5 a day Hostels also in mixed dorms. The airbnb rooms are as cheap as $100 a month. I think if your in our hobby or a grwn man you should rent a full private spot.
If you are in your 60's or even 50+, depending how creepy and old you look, yes people should call the police on your ass bc many foreigners are fucking filthy pedos. Maybe not you cause I don't know you. But be discreet and go to a motel if she looks very young. I can't understand this stupid obsession with bringing girls to apt where you actually stay. Even bringing 4 different girls a week will appear too many for normal families that are observing you. That's not fucking normal is it?
If you're in a long-term thing then it will appear normal that you're bringing the same person. There's no perfect method, but it's something we must manage for both dep on where we stay vs who sees and vs the volume.
The police calling might have been out of jealousy also. Bc it's their home, and now seeing you with diff women daily or every other day with suspiciously young ones. Even if they are not wg, having multiple ones in a short period of time, especially being a foreigner is disgusting to them. Look at it at their point of view.
In Bog I stay in a 20 story building, huge lobby and only have to register ea guess once. You would think you're in a business skyscraper and no neighbors sees you or give a crap. 3 Elevators and throughout the hallways not a person in sight except the occasional ones in the same Elevator w you. Outside is none but businesses. But in in Mde smaller apts w noisy neighbors sitting outside observing, or the ones with 1 security guard or smaller complex will get in your biz.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2953733]8's and 9's at the cheap casas downtown and GFE performances? If this is true, we should all go down there because that is a great value. Now let you tell you my experience with guys and how they rate girls based on a popular escort review website in the USA. On the website, guys can anonymously rate escorts on a scale of 1 to 10. Time and time again, guys have given 9's and 10's to escorts who I then visit and have been very disappointed with their looks, girls who I would rate as 6's or maybe a low 7.
So what is going on? Are guys lying? I think the answer is no. It is just that they are used to their average or below average looking girlfriends or wives and when they see a girl that is better looking, they think these girls are 8's, 9's and 10's. I don't think this is a bad thing for the guys at all. If you see an above average girl and think she is a 9 or 10, this is a great thing for you. There are more choices out there and in your mind, you are seeing 9's and 10's for a very reasonable price. It is like that movie where the guy is hypnotized into thinking that an average looking fat girl is a supermodel and in that state of mind, he is really happy.
I am not saying that this is happening here, just throwing out a theory. Now I am here in Medellin so I may go down to those casas soon and check out those 8's and 9's with GFE performance for a cheap price. I think it is a great option for guys if true. And, of course, if you don't see those 8's or 9's when you are there, you are just going at the wrong time or the beautiful girls have already been taken.[/QUOTE]Last time I posted here or logged into the forum was nearly 3 mos ago. Not only bc of work but few buddies joined me in mde right after Brazil. I get zero points, make no money here for lying. As far as experience and being used to baddies, I only dated 8+ and since I started traveling, I became even more selective. Most travelers do upgrade their taste based on what I read after few months in this hobby.
There is zero offense to think the way you think or those that agreed LOL. It is bc they've met many sore losers in person, guys who arent used to women which I do also. Majority of mongers were losers back home. But not all. Many guys on this forum are lawyers, doctors, biz owners, gents that are divorced, and used to date pretty girls.
So who knows, maybe even with money coming out of my ass, being a decent looking guy and in shape, I still have bad and horrible taste LOL. Who the fuck knows. But all I know is this, most travelers I see in person are fucking ugly and fat dudes, some of yall in centro wear the same fucking tshirt every day or each time I see yall.
Maybe not you exactly, just making a point. Which brings me to the topic of GFE. The GFE works is like this, you can pay a girl 2 M pesos and she could be horrible in bed BECAUSE SHE doesn't LIKE YOUR MONKEY ASS.
WOMEN AREN'T ROBOTS SO YOU can't PAY FOR GFE OR ORDER IT. Some women are naturally romantic and have high sex drives like many Brazilians, and bc of that GFE is more common there even in casas. Many guys here report that paying more doesn't equal GFE or good quality sex. She has to have chemistry with you.
So just bc I had the experience, which maybe because I know how to talk to women, I give compliments, I look good, in shape, still young, confident, all those are factors. This does not mean by you walking in there, smelling like shit, look and dress like shit, that she will kiss you in the lips and tell you about her life story and becoming a friend and provide GFE service.
REAL GFE is solely based on you. So chill the fuck out.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2953733]8's and 9's at the cheap casas downtown and GFE performances? If this is true, we should all go down there because that is a great value. Now let you tell you my experience with guys and how they rate girls based on a popular escort review website in the USA. On the website, guys can anonymously rate escorts on a scale of 1 to 10. Time and time again, guys have given 9's and 10's to escorts who I then visit and have been very disappointed with their looks, girls who I would rate as 6's or maybe a low 7.
So what is going on? Are guys lying? I think the answer is no. It is just that they are used to their average or below average looking girlfriends or wives and when they see a girl that is better looking, they think these girls are 8's, 9's and 10's. I don't think this is a bad thing for the guys at all. If you see an above average girl and think she is a 9 or 10, this is a great thing for you. There are more choices out there and in your mind, you are seeing 9's and 10's for a very reasonable price. It is like that movie where the guy is hypnotized into thinking that an average looking fat girl is a supermodel and in that state of mind, he is really happy.
I am not saying that this is happening here, just throwing out a theory. Now I am here in Medellin so I may go down to those casas soon and check out those 8's and 9's with GFE performance for a cheap price. I think it is a great option for guys if true. And, of course, if you don't see those 8's or 9's when you are there, you are just going at the wrong time or the beautiful girls have already been taken.[/QUOTE]To prove my point, go read few chicas profile on Mileroticos and Photoprepago, you will see that many of them say that they only kiss and perform BBBJ depending on the client's hygiene. So it's not something money can buy, maybe a lame BBBJ but not always and def not true affection / GFE. It's how to look, how clean you are, and if she's feeling you. No other man or myself can help with that.
So I apologize if my report mislead a bit LOL. I will ensure to put that disclosure in my next report, that decent hygiene is required, maybe a full set of teeth, a clean cut, deodorant, non-obese, age limit, good breath, in order to receive GFE or similar experience. My bad I forgot to disclose that.
If WGs write that requirement themselves, imagine nonpros? I see why some of yall so bitter and angry about a simple report. There are professional male grooming and coaching services out there.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2953773]I have been saying this for months, if not years. You can't judge a boxing match if you don't know shit about boxing. Same thing when it comes to rating women. Average Joe has been fucking whales all his life, any girl who looks better than a whale is automatically hot. Especially is the age gap is 30+ years. Also, some guys don't know what GFE is. One of the posters in the Bogota thread said he got covered BJ, but she was GFE. GTFO LOL. Casas are not meant to provide GFE, cheap casas, expensive casas, doesn't matter. You rarely get GFE there, because the girls are hardened pros and the venue works like a fucking conveyor. Wham bam thank you ma'am type. Heck, you don't want to kiss a girl who just sucked someone's dick 20 minutes ago.[/QUOTE]You are totally wrong. I have gotten great GFE from casa chicas. For me GFE is where the girl is warm, friendly, tells you about herself, what she likes and does not like, gives you her phone number and above all is willing to meet you outside of her place of work. What the hell does a BJ have to do with GFE!? I have gotten BBBJs from stone cold starfishes in FKKs. I have gotten CBJs from casa girls who I later met for lunch dates and great sex in short time hotels with DFK and BBBJ. Getting GFE from a girl has a lot to do with how you treat her. Treating her as just a slam bam thank you mam as you alluded to will never get you GFK. Try another approach. There is no difference between a casa chica and the high end escorts that you patronize except the price. Many casa girls get two or less clients per day which is less mileage than some of your high priced babes.
Hardened pros?? That smacks of someone who has never been to a casa. Back in the day I met casa chicas who were on their first or second day as a working girl. Some girls go only when they need money. Over many years I have been to most casas in Medellin on several occasions and am convinced that they are the best deal in town.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2953827]You are totally wrong. I have gotten great GFE from casa chicas. For me GFE is where the girl is warm, friendly, tells you about herself, what she likes and does not like, gives you her phone number and above all is willing to meet you outside of her place of work. What the hell does a BJ have to do with GFE!? I have gotten BBBJs from stone cold starfishes in FKKs. I have gotten CBJs from casa girls who I later met for lunch dates and great sex in short time hotels with DFK and BBBJ. Getting GFE from a girl has a lot to do with how you treat her. Treating her as just a slam bam thank you mam as you alluded to will never get you GFK. Try another approach. There is no difference between a casa chica and the high end escorts that you patronize except the price. Many casa girls get two or less clients per day which is less mileage than some of your high priced babes.[/QUOTE]During my 3 mos in mde recently, only went to Conejitas once. The strip club in Centro near Botero. While in there a girl came and sat next to me and offered her services, I declined since I don't like the rooms in there, plus only wanted to drink and observe. She was the prettiest girl in there so we exchanged numbers, bought her some drinks and we chatted, tipped her 20 k before I left. Svc in there costs 120 k for 30 minutes. So we made a lunch date on la 70 next day, spent like two hours eating, drunk some wine and got to know each other. I had such a relax time w her. Then went to a motel a block away, 200 k and spent like 4 hrs mult rounds. Total GFE, showerd together, got a great professional massage since she does that on the side also. She shared her IG, her family fotos, etc. She wouldn't do all that if we didn't connect w chemistry.
That dude you replied to always make it seem that some women are less than a human being bc of where they work and how much they charge. He's a little psycho.
Last year I met another cutie in that same club, banged her for the 120 k, and also came to my hotel, met my friends and we hung out together, banged her again after a several hrs date. On this recent trip I saw her again and now she only works at Parque lleras, her min rate is 600 k. I shit you not she's a blond white girl and looks like she's from the states, so dudes pay that in the park for her. She's really gorgeous.
Pay those losers no mind. They can't be normal. If you look at the thread "Stupid shit in medellin" You'll see all they do is insult and talk shit there all day.
Men who are getting laid regularly, making a good income with a stress free living arent so rude and angry all the time. Just look at that forum section. Fucking crazy so pay those losers no mind.
That is exactly my beef with chicaspuntocom too. The rooms are only slightly better than the 10 peso shitholes behind the church. I was last in there during the pandemic. Both me and the girl kept your shoes on during the session. Like all the other casas, you get some good providers from time to time.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2953561]Today I met my first Vennie this trip. The lineup at Chicas punto com of about 10 girls was presented to me and as soon as I saw her I knew that she was Venezuelan. I paid COP 70,000 for the half hour and the session was going so well I extended by another half hour for the same price. In previous trips Chicas punto com was always able to provide me with Vennies. Sofia delivered reasonably good service with various positions accompanied by GFE and a good time was had by all concerned. My beef with Cpc is the habitacion which is rather dingy (although porn was on display). As a matter of fact Centro casa rooms are not very pleasant but as Bob Barker would agree 'the price is right'. Nevertheless, a nice room makes the experience so much better.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2953827]You are totally wrong. I have gotten great GFE from casa chicas. For me GFE is where the girl is warm, friendly, tells you about herself, what she likes and does not like, gives you her phone number and above all is willing to meet you outside of her place of work. What the hell does a BJ have to do with GFE!? I have gotten BBBJs from stone cold starfishes in FKKs. I have gotten CBJs from casa girls who I later met for lunch dates and great sex in short time hotels with DFK and BBBJ. Getting GFE from a girl has a lot to do with how you treat her. Treating her as just a slam bam thank you mam as you alluded to will never get you GFK. Try another approach. There is no difference between a casa chica and the high end escorts that you patronize except the price. Many casa girls get two or less clients per day which is less mileage than some of your high priced babes.
Hardened pros?? That smacks of someone who has never been to a casa. Back in the day I met casa chicas who were on their first or second day as a working girl. Some girls go only when they need money. Over many years I have been to most casas in Medellin on several occasions and am convinced that they are the best deal in town.[/QUOTE]I'm not wrong, you just didn't get my point. What does a BJ have to do with GFE? Does your girlfriend suck you off with a condom on? I don't think so. BBBJ for many guys is a deal breaker and is part of a standard GFE service. Now, BBBJ could be great, or it could be lousy, no question about it. But CBJ in my opinion can never be great.
I didn't say you can't get GFE from a casa girl, but you got to take her out of the establishment, build a rapport, maybe even wine and dine her. You can't build a rapport at the casa when you see her for the first time and you only got 15 or 20 minutes with her. And how the hell am I supposed to treat a hooker if the whole concept of a casa is "slam bam thank you mam". You go there to bust a quick nut and be out. There is no time to talk. The rooms are so basic and dark, definitely not inviting to have a nice conversation. And speaking of volumes, I personally have seen girls getting picked up 3-4 times back to back, and that was in less than 2 HR timeframe. Don't even compare high end babes to your casa hoes, its like day and night. And if one wants GFE, they should focus on semi-pros or non-pros, rather than pros.
[QUOTE=MiamiBytchBoy1;2953832]I'm not wrong, you just didn't get my point. What does a BJ have to do with GFE? Does your girlfriend suck you off with a condom on? I don't think so. BBBJ for many guys is a deal breaker and is part of a standard GFE service. Now, BBBJ could be great, or it could be lousy, no question about it. But CBJ in my opinion can never be great.
I didn't say you can't get GFE from a casa girl, but you got to take her out of the establishment, build a rapport, maybe even wine and dine her. You can't build a rapport at the casa when you see her for the first time and you only got 15 or 20 minutes with her. And how the hell am I supposed to treat a hooker if the whole concept of a casa is "slam bam thank you mam". You go there to bust a quick nut and be out. There is no time to talk. The rooms are so basic and dark, definitely not inviting to have a nice conversation. And speaking of volumes, I personally have seen girls getting picked up 3-4 times back to back, and that was in less than 2 HR timeframe. Don't even compare high end babes to your casa hoes, its like day and night. And if one wants GFE, they should focus on semi-pros or non-pros, rather than pros.[/QUOTE]Turgid, you will have to excuse our racist from Miami, he belongs in the stupid shit thread but occasionally he gets out and posts over here. He doesn't contribute anything valuable and prefers to attack other members such as yourself and I by belittling their judgement, saying that his women are better eventhough he refuses to post any pictures of his so called 9 or 10's, and by name calling. It looks like now he has taken it even further to tell you that what you consider a GFE experience is not a GFE experience. This guy is unreal.
-Gabacho.
From time to time, I do chime in on topics of the day and usually I regret it afterwards. Ja ja ja. There really is no point to arguing with people on this board. People will believe what they want to believe and it is all good.
Come to Medellin, see the girls that you want to see, pay what you want to pay, have a good time and don't worry about what others say or do.
So far this trip is going well and it's been a long trip. I have been seeing girls that I want to see, paying what I am comfortable paying, and enjoying my time here in Medellin. I am being being careful and so far I have not been drugged or robbed.
You can spend more than me. You can spend less than me. You can claim that your girls are prettier than my girls. It's all good.
Any good spot to watch the Niners Chiefs game this Sunday? I'll be in town till Monday so if anyone has recommendations on where to go let me know.
[QUOTE=GangsterDog;2953939]Any good spot to watch the Niners Chiefs game this Sunday? I'll be in town till Monday so if anyone has recommendations on where to go let me know.[/QUOTE]Mama Panda Chinese restaurant just opened a month ago.
Finally good american-chinese food in Medellin, so much better than the terrible colombian-chinese food.
The Honey Walnut Shrimp and Orange Chicken are great, and the restaurant is huge, with a center island american-style bar, a retractable roof, 10 TVS and a JUMBOTRON TV Screen that is amazing to watch NFL, the MLB playoffs, Hockey, Basketball and Soccer games.
Its is in the heart of Laureles, right off of Avenida Nutibara, right next to the big McDonalds, in Mercado de Laureles.
The address is Circular 74, #39-36, third floor.
Check out their reviews on google at Mama Panda Cocina Asiatica and their instagram page at Mamapandacocinaasiatica.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2953844]Turgid, you will have to excuse our racist from Miami, he belongs in the stupid shit thread but occasionally he gets out and posts over here. He doesn't contribute anything valuable and prefers to attack other members such as yourself and I by belittling their judgement, saying that his women are better eventhough he refuses to post any pictures of his so called 9 or 10's, and by name calling. It looks like now he has taken it even further to tell you that what you consider a GFE experience is not a GFE experience. This guy is unreal.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]I hate it when guys think they're better than others and the girls they fuck are better than the girls that others bang. I have been with high end escorts all over the world and stunners from the best FKKs in Germany and had a better time with many casa girls I sessioned in the past.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2953938]From time to time, I do chime in on topics of the day and usually I regret it afterwards. Ja ja ja. There really is no point to arguing with people on this board. People will believe what they want to believe and it is all good.
Come to Medellin, see the girls that you want to see, pay what you want to pay, have a good time and don't worry about what others say or do.
So far this trip is going well and it's been a long trip. I have been seeing girls that I want to see, paying what I am comfortable paying, and enjoying my time here in Medellin. I am being being careful and so far I have not been drugged or robbed.
You can spend more than me. You can spend less than me. You can claim that your girls are prettier than my girls. It's all good.[/QUOTE]This is all you need to know. It should be pinned.
There are quite a few attractive massage girls hanging around the Park, they give their business cards. Are they the masseuses or just PR? Also what can you get from them? FS?
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2953821]... If your neighbor complained about you mult times, then you are doing something wrong LOL.
I didn't reply to you either. I quoted the user "HUACHO" claiming staying w mamas and stuff. Maybe I misread that. ...
If you are in your 60's or even 50+, depending how creepy and old you look, yes people should call the police on your ass bc many foreigners are fucking filthy pedos. Maybe not you cause I don't know you. But be discreet and go to a motel if she looks very young. ... The police calling might have been out of jealousy also. [/QUOTE]You obviously have a reading comprehension problem. I didn't say a neighbor complained multiple times. I said RESIDENTS (plural) have complained.
Huacho posted "douche bags renting out their apartments and going to stay with their mamas and stuff", but you do admit you may have misread that. That doesn't excuse you saying Huacho posted something false.
Do you know that Frisby's is a chain of chicken restaurants? We were eating lunch when the person called the police.
You still didn't explain what was false in Huacho's post.
You may only stay in high-end apartment buildings, but that doesn't eliminate the fact that there are other Airbnb rentals like the ones Huacho mentioned.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2953821]If you are in your 60's or even 50+, depending how creepy and old you look, yes people should call the police on your ass [/QUOTE]You're another one whose attitude may prevent you from finding out what 50+ is actually like.
Recently a poster reported on a great lineup in Zandaly and upon reading it I promised to revisit the casa which I did today. Well, it appears that I keep going at the wrong time. I am going to give details which I used to do up to my last visit in 2019 but I promise to those bored by this I will do it only for Zandaly this time. Believe me my rating is generous. The presentation was the following:
(1) Emily (4 out of 10).
(2) Valerie (4).
(3) Alexandra (6).
(4) Sofia (4).
(5) Ashley (5).
There were 4 other chicas who were having lunch. Two 4's, a 5 and another 6, a slim blanca who I would have chosen if she was free but she had just started to eat.
So off I went with Alexandra, a short mulatta with a very nice booty. Nothing to write home about.
[QUOTE]Men who are getting laid regularly, making a good income with a stress free living arent so rude and angry all the time. Just look at that forum section. Fucking crazy so pay those losers no mind.[/QUOTE]You are making assumptions based on your perceptions when you need to take a step back and get some perspective. If two boxers get into to ring, they start hitting on each other. [B]Is that being rude or angry[/B]? I banter back in forth here to practice my English writing skills. It is like going onto the tennis court with a hitting partner. The object is to practice your shots and keep the ball in play.
It has been a long time since I read the Mede Report thread. Mother fuckers arguing like there is not tomorrow over the same shit as always. They just don't use a much profanity. But they all just [B]International Tricks[/B] so I don't see where they get their attitudes of superiority like [B]Madd Traveler[/B] displays.
Last time I visited Medellin 5 years ago there were brothas in all the casas especially New Life where they basically took over the place. Now I see none at all. As a matter of fact in all my casa visits this trip I have seen not one gringo. It seems gringos have given up the casa scene completely and have moved on to other (better?) arenas. The fact of their complete absence from casas perhaps says something about the other options. Perhaps I am missing something.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2953967]I hate it when guys think they're better than others and the girls they fuck are better than the girls that others bang. I have been with high end escorts all over the world and stunners from the best FKKs in Germany and had a better time with many casa girls I sessioned in the past.[/QUOTE]Loved the FKK days, but those Romanians are anything but GFE. Great BBBJ though and so many pink pussies.
I get the best GFE from Latinas even though I don't speak Spanish LOL.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2954318]Last time I visited Medellin 5 years ago there were brothas in all the casas especially New Life where they basically took over the place. Now I see none at all. As a matter of fact in all my casa visits this trip I have seen not one gringo. It seems gringos have given up the casa scene completely and have moved on to other (better?) arenas. The fact of their complete absence from casas perhaps says something about the other options. Perhaps I am missing something.[/QUOTE]I'm staying in laureles and planning to hit up a bunch of casas and grab their #s for toda la noche if we have good chemistry.
The casa girls seem much cheaper than Facebook girls.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2954318]Last time I visited Medellin 5 years ago there were brothas in all the casas especially New Life where they basically took over the place. Now I see none at all. As a matter of fact in all my casa visits this trip I have seen not one gringo. It seems gringos have given up the casa scene completely and have moved on to other (better?) arenas. The fact of their complete absence from casas perhaps says something about the other options. Perhaps I am missing something.[/QUOTE]Sure, the nation you should look for are Germans. When Germans are gone that means the value is gone. Then you look for Italians. When they start to depart it means trouble. This is the best gauge for me in Latam or Africa.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2954318]Last time I visited Medellin 5 years ago there were brothas in all the casas especially New Life where they basically took over the place. Now I see none at all. As a matter of fact in all my casa visits this trip I have seen not one gringo. It seems gringos have given up the casa scene completely and have moved on to other (better?) arenas. The fact of their complete absence from casas perhaps says something about the other options. Perhaps I am missing something.[/QUOTE]I cannot speak about other casas but when I was at New Life the other week, I saw two black Americans there although they seemed to take their time as they arrived before me and I chose a lady before either of them. When I finished my session, they were still sitting in the lobby. I quite like New Life and would visit again as well as try other casas out in future trips.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2954013]
Do you know that Frisby's is a chain of chicken restaurants? We were eating lunch when the person called the police.[/QUOTE]Bro if you like Frisby there's this other chicken place not far from the Frisby in Centro (the one right across from parque berrio). It's called Chef Colombia Crispy world. Just keep walking up Calle 52 (la playa) until you get to the coltejer tower and it's literally at the bottom of the tower. Best fucking fried chicken in all of Medellin hands down, bro. Especially if you order the wings and ask for them with the "salsa aparte" they cook them up fresh made to order and they come out so delicious.
Gabacho.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2954351]I'm staying in laureles and planning to hit up a bunch of casas and grab their #s for toda la noche if we have good chemistry.
The casa girls seem much cheaper than Facebook girls.[/QUOTE]With Facebook girls, Tinder and outcall escorts you choose a girl based on a photo and she keeps you waiting then when she arrives she looks nothing like her photo and is no better looking than a casa girl, then charges you five times the casa price. Also don't forget to watch your belongings like a hawk. Won't talk about liquid refreshment as ISG regulars are smart enough to monitor their drinks.
I'll be honest and say that I've been disappointed with the Centro casas so far. My greatest disappointment has been Aiffe where I've had so many great sessions in the past. Can anyone explain what has happened to that establishment? They have a great reception area and I like that room to the right as you enter but the chica quality this trip has been dismal. I do hope it is temporary as I have some great memories there.
I move on to the Laureles casas this week but I have not given up on Centro yet as the movement of girls is very fluid and a diamond in the rough may be just around the corner.
All the casas have staffing ups and downs. You are experienced so you know it's going to vary day by day. I have a long history with Aiffe and the family that owns it, as well as several girls who worked there over the years. That's the background for this key fact. Aiffe is known among girls as the casa that pays the least. This explains why its staffing tends to be uneven compared to other casas. The lower pay begs the question of why women would work there when there are other higher paying options. Before I continue with that answer I should mention that the difference in pay is small, as in 5,000 pesos, or 30,000 pesos versus 35,000 pesos out of the 60,000 to 70,000 half hour fee. The reason girls put up with it Aiffe is it is not as strict as other casas with fines. Fines are assessed by all the casas, mostly for arriving late, leaving early, or not showing up for shifts. This is what makes Aiffe worthwhile for girls in spite of its lower pay and it is also what makes it worthwhile for us customers because girls who urgently need quick cash can pop in for a few hours or days at a time, so it's not that unusual to stumble on a good opportunity if you are able to check the place regularly. If you are here for a few days at a time you are going to get better bang for your buck at the more reliable casas. If you are here long term you can use the place to refresh your roster with new phone numbers after you try them out at low cost. It's win-win because the girls get to vet you in the safety of the casa then collect nearly double what Aiffe pays them when they see you outside of Aiffe.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2954613]With Facebook girls, Tinder and outcall escorts you choose a girl based on a photo and she keeps you waiting then when she arrives she looks nothing like her photo and is no better looking than a casa girl, then charges you five times the casa price. Also don't forget to watch your belongings like a hawk. Won't talk about liquid refreshment as ISG regulars are smart enough to monitor their drinks.
I'll be honest and say that I've been disappointed with the Centro casas so far. My greatest disappointment has been Aiffe where I've had so many great sessions in the past. Can anyone explain what has happened to that establishment? They have a great reception area and I like that room to the right as you enter but the chica quality this trip has been dismal. I do hope it is temporary as I have some great memories there.
I move on to the Laureles casas this week but I have not given up on Centro yet as the movement of girls is very fluid and a diamond in the rough may be just around the corner.[/QUOTE]
Waiting around for Facebook girls, or really any girls, is non negotiable for me. I just won't do it. My regulars know not to bother trying to get together more than 15 minutes past an agreed time, and then only if they contact me to postpone. Life is too short to sit around with your thumb up your ass waiting for a girl to decide to show up.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2954613]With Facebook girls, Tinder and outcall escorts you choose a girl based on a photo and she keeps you waiting then when she arrives she looks nothing like her photo and is no better looking than a casa girl, then charges you five times the casa price. Also don't forget to watch your belongings like a hawk. Won't talk about liquid refreshment as ISG regulars are smart enough to monitor their drinks.
I'll be honest and say that I've been disappointed with the Centro casas so far. My greatest disappointment has been Aiffe where I've had so many great sessions in the past. Can anyone explain what has happened to that establishment? They have a great reception area and I like that room to the right as you enter but the chica quality this trip has been dismal. I do hope it is temporary as I have some great memories there.
I move on to the Laureles casas this week but I have not given up on Centro yet as the movement of girls is very fluid and a diamond in the rough may be just around the corner.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2954453]Bro if you like Frisby there's this other chicken place not far from the Frisby in Centro (the one right across from parque berrio). It's called Chef Colombia Crispy world. Just keep walking up Calle 52 (la playa) until you get to the coltejer tower and it's literally at the bottom of the tower. [/QUOTE]Thanks Gabacho. I take the little girl to Frisby because she likes the play area.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2954613]With Facebook girls, Tinder and outcall escorts you choose a girl based on a photo and she keeps you waiting then when she arrives she looks nothing like her photo and is no better looking than a casa girl, then charges you five times the casa price. Also don't forget to watch your belongings like a hawk. Won't talk about liquid refreshment as ISG regulars are smart enough to monitor their drinks.
I'll be honest and say that I've been disappointed with the Centro casas so far. My greatest disappointment has been Aiffe where I've had so many great sessions in the past. Can anyone explain what has happened to that establishment? They have a great reception area and I like that room to the right as you enter but the chica quality this trip has been dismal. I do hope it is temporary as I have some great memories there.
I move on to the Laureles casas this week but I have not given up on Centro yet as the movement of girls is very fluid and a diamond in the rough may be just around the corner.[/QUOTE]Yeah Facebook seems like a huge waste of time as they're quoting 250-400 k and they're like 6-7 in looks. The really hot ones won't even respond LOL.
I'll stick with the casas and get their Facebook if I like them. How are Colombians pussy hygiene compared to the tijuana HK girls?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2954613]With Facebook girls, Tinder and outcall escorts you choose a girl based on a photo and she keeps you waiting then when she arrives she looks nothing like her photo and is no better looking than a casa girl, then charges you five times the casa price. [/QUOTE]That has not been my experience with Facebook girls. Usually I like to see girls with a number of pictures posted on their FB profile especially recent pictures with friends or family and almost always, they look like their pictures. I prefer Facebook because the girls I select are better looking than the girls in the casas in my opinion. Yes, waiting for the girl to arrive is irritating but they are usually coming from Bello which is far away and there is often traffic. I would agree that if it is a big issue waiting for a girl to arrive, you should not arrange for girls from social media to come to your place. Yes, it is more expensive than the price of casa girls. It is up to the guy to decide whether it is worth the additional cost based on his assessment of the attractive of the girl and her performance.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2954619]All the casas have staffing ups and downs. You are experienced so you know it's going to vary day by day. I have a long history with Aiffe and the family that owns it, as well as several girls who worked there over the years. That's the background for this key fact. Aiffe is known among girls as the casa that pays the least. This explains why its staffing tends to be uneven compared to other casas. The lower pay begs the question of why women would work there when there are other higher paying options. Before I continue with that answer I should mention that the difference in pay is small, as in 5,000 pesos, or 30,000 pesos versus 35,000 pesos out of the 60,000 to 70,000 half hour fee. The reason girls put up with it Aiffe is it is not as strict as other casas with fines. Fines are assessed by all the casas, mostly for arriving late, leaving early, or not showing up for shifts. This is what makes Aiffe worthwhile for girls in spite of its lower pay and it is also what makes it worthwhile for us customers because girls who urgently need quick cash can pop in for a few hours or days at a time, so it's not that unusual to stumble on a good opportunity if you are able to check the place regularly. If you are here for a few days at a time you are going to get better bang for your buck at the more reliable casas. If you are here long term you can use the place to refresh your roster with new phone numbers after you try them out at low cost. It's win-win because the girls get to vet you in the safety of the casa then collect nearly double what Aiffe pays them when they see you outside of Aiffe.[/QUOTE]Great info on Aiffe. I will certain keep visiting.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2954781]That has not been my experience with Facebook girls. Usually I like to see girls with a number of pictures posted on their FB profile especially recent pictures with friends or family and almost always, they look like their pictures. I prefer Facebook because the girls I select are better looking than the girls in the casas in my opinion. Yes, waiting for the girl to arrive is irritating but they are usually coming from Bello which is far away and there is often traffic. I would agree that if it is a big issue waiting for a girl to arrive, you should not arrange for girls from social media to come to your place. Yes, it is more expensive than the price of casa girls. It is up to the guy to decide whether it is worth the additional cost based on his assessment of the attractive of the girl and her performance.[/QUOTE]The casa girls in laureles on avg look better than a lot of these Facebook girls (excluding the modelos with 10 k+ followers).
How much are the Facebook girls quoting you? I heard they typically stay for 2-3 hours which would mean it's cheaper than casa girls by the hourly rate.
Mods. Can you please remove this restriction? I've had it for roughly 3 years and I have not been engaging in drama with other members since.
The workaround to avoid waiting around for girls to show up that I've found effective is ride share apps. Whether or not you pay for the ride you have the girl share the trip progress with you or track the ride on the app. I don't accept "I'm almost there" or "I'm on the metro now" type messages.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2954781]That has not been my experience with Facebook girls. Usually I like to see girls with a number of pictures posted on their FB profile especially recent pictures with friends or family and almost always, they look like their pictures. I prefer Facebook because the girls I select are better looking than the girls in the casas in my opinion. Yes, waiting for the girl to arrive is irritating but they are usually coming from Bello which is far away and there is often traffic. I would agree that if it is a big issue waiting for a girl to arrive, you should not arrange for girls from social media to come to your place. Yes, it is more expensive than the price of casa girls. It is up to the guy to decide whether it is worth the additional cost based on his assessment of the attractive of the girl and her performance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2954789]Great info on Aiffe. I will certain keep visiting.[/QUOTE]Have you tried Amigas Sexy? It's on the other side of Oriental. The east side. I think this is the correct address: Cra. 45 D #57-67.
Look for the doorway where you need to climb about 15 or 20 stairs to get to the door into the place.
Very friendly younger couple used to run this place. I would guess they still do but I haven't been there in a couple years.
Used to have a diamond in the rough once in a while. I liked the little bar to sit at and get a feel for the chicas. Just like Zandalay.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2954789]Great info on Aiffe. I will certain keep visiting.[/QUOTE]Agree with that, Aiffe is lot better one than the other one across the other street.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2954841]Have you tried Amigas Sexy? It's on the other side of Oriental. The east side. I think this is the correct address: Cra. 45 D #57-67.
Look for the doorway where you need to climb about 15 or 20 stairs to get to the door into the place.
Very friendly younger couple used to run this place. I would guess they still do but I haven't been there in a couple years.
Used to have a diamond in the rough once in a while. I liked the little bar to sit at and get a feel for the chicas. Just like Zandalay.[/QUOTE]I have not yet this trip, its definitely on my to do list.
Visited another one of my favorites from the past. Four chicas were presented to me while a girl was screaming with pleasure amidst the sounds of smacking flesh in one of the rooms. I've seen much better lineups at Tantra - oh well. Chose young looking (Jiminez?). She gave it her all with lots of 'si', 'rrico' and other words not loud enough to match her co-worker though.
On another note I have found the service improving as this trip progresses perhaps I made some bad choices week before last and early last week. Yeah, the service is now what I am accustomed getting in Medellin with lots of acceptance of and indulgence in my idiosyncrasies.
From my experience in years gone by the Centro casa that had the hottest girls was called Paradiso but to my knowledge they went out of business, at the address I used to visit, some years ago. Anyone knows if they relocated?
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2954343]Loved the FKK days, but those Romanians are anything but GFE. Great BBBJ though and so many pink pussies.
I get the best GFE from Latinas even though I don't speak Spanish LOL.[/QUOTE]Agreed! I was in an FKK in Frankfurt and ill never forget how much those romanians suck and suck. This one chick was like "how about I just suck you, make you cum good in my mouth" and she was just happy doing that for 20 min.
Then I felt refreshed as I ate buffet of steak, rice and potatoes / ahhh living.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2954936]Agreed! I was in an FKK in Frankfurt and ill never forget how much those romanians suck and suck. This one chick was like "how about I just suck you, make you cum good in my mouth" and she was just happy doing that for 20 min.
Then I felt refreshed as I ate buffet of steak, rice and potatoes / ahhh living.[/QUOTE]The Mansion should convert to an FKK model, I bet it would do really well. They already have a bunch of girls working there.
The blowjobs from Romanians were the absolute best and I have not encountered a single fishy pussy at the FKK. I'the spend 5-8 hours there.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2954942]The Mansion should convert to an FKK model, I bet it would do really well. They already have a bunch of girls working there.
The blowjobs from Romanians were the absolute best and I have not encountered a single fishy pussy at the FKK. I'the spend 5-8 hours there.[/QUOTE]The FKK model would never be allowed in Colombia. They get shut down regularly for just allowing working girls in there.
Germany has the government onside in their sex business. Colombia just prefers to blame foreigners for some of the bad shit and pretend that the all the bad stuff in the industry would not be there other than evil sex tourists.
I heard there was a ban from the mayor due to illegal sex activity there. Is it still in effect or is it largely gone now? I'll be coming to Medellin next week for a month. Hope to find some 18 year olds there. Where should I look? And are they all of legal age? Are they screened somehow to make sure everything is legit? I heard street walkers were plenty there but without verification, it's hard to tell if they got a fake ID or whatever. Also, anyone up for a meetup?
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2954826]The casa girls in laureles on avg look better than a lot of these Facebook girls (excluding the modelos with 10 k+ followers).
How much are the Facebook girls quoting you? I heard they typically stay for 2-3 hours which would mean it's cheaper than casa girls by the hourly rate.[/QUOTE]There are literally thousands of girls based in Medellin on Facebook. Each girl has her own thoughts of what she is worth. You can ask 20 girls and the prices will be different. No, they don't typically stay for 2-3 hours but you can ask for that if you want. For me, it doesn't really matter what the girls will quote me. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and they can decide to take it or not take it.
[QUOTE=JimmyStreets;2953021]Dance with the devil enough you will get burned. You'll run into the wrong one eventually if your not being clear and upfront about pricing. I would not recommend anyone to take your approach of not negotiating an actual price. One day you will get an expectation for 2 or 3 milliones from the wrong girl. Think it can't happen. It can and does eventually. Overpay, underpay whatever floats your boat. Just be clear to avoid issues.[/QUOTE]If this forum had an 'up-vote' I'd upvote you. You are 100% correct. My post wasn't clear enough to what I do when I pick someone and get ready to head out with them. I then let them know I will pay $X ($300-350 usually) and will pay tip more based on how I feel it comes out. I'm really planning to pay them $100 more than I suggested, but they don't know that, and they have an incentive, and they agreed to the smaller amount if I am disappointed. I've also short-changed 1-2 who were a total waste and magically had to get going too quickly or some other BS. But with experience I never really run into those anymore.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2955022]The FKK model would never be allowed in Colombia. They get shut down regularly for just allowing working girls in there.
Germany has the government onside in their sex business. Colombia just prefers to blame foreigners for some of the bad shit and pretend that the all the bad stuff in the industry would not be there other than evil sex tourists.[/QUOTE]True, the past yer or so, chicas have to go straight to the room, not allowed to hang out poolside. I think the Mansion days are extremely numbered. Latest rumor of it closing end of September ended up false. However I've heard downpayment has been made, but actual closing date to be determined. New buyer will tear it down I've heard.
That lot will likely become a multi story building of 10 or more stories.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2955173]True, the past yer or so, chicas have to go straight to the room, not allowed to hang out poolside. I think the Mansion days are extremely numbered. Latest rumor of it closing end of September ended up false. However I've heard downpayment has been made, but actual closing date to be determined. New buyer will tear it down I've heard.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2955136]There are literally thousands of girls based in Medellin on Facebook. Each girl has her own thoughts of what she is worth. You can ask 20 girls and the prices will be different. No, they don't typically stay for 2-3 hours but you can ask for that if you want. For me, it doesn't really matter what the girls will quote me. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and they can decide to take it or not take it.[/QUOTE]You are right, the prices have a wide range and it's not really corrrelated to looks. Seeing a range of 250-500 k, what do you offer to pay? What's the advantage of Facebook girls over the casa girls?
I just got back last weekend. The mayor is working diligently to remove pros from the walled city. All of the clubs with pros in Centro have been permanently shut down. There are a lot more families out, and pros are no longer allowed to loiter at the clocktower. When they are standing around the police will come on motos and blast their sirens until they move. Its really annoying. Also I have been there a million times and now the begging is gotten completely out of control, way worse than before. Medellin is very lively from what I am seeing so I'm sure I will take a trip there soon.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2955386]You are right, the prices have a wide range and it's not really corrrelated to looks. Seeing a range of 250-500 k, what do you offer to pay? What's the advantage of Facebook girls over the casa girls?[/QUOTE]IMO, the disadvantage "danger" of messing around with internet chicas is you dropping your guard and getting scopolamine drugged and robbed. Vs getting that done to you while you're in a casa. PLEASE be careful with your drinks if you're out there drinking. I AM!
[QUOTE=LuvChicas;2955511]IMO, the disadvantage "danger" of messing around with internet chicas is you dropping your guard and getting scopolamine drugged and robbed. Vs getting that done to you while you're in a casa. PLEASE be careful with your drinks if you're out there drinking. I AM![/QUOTE]Yeah, I'll probably stick with the casas.
Laura Bustamante messaged me on Facebook, she seems to be popular on this forum. She's a 5/10 at best, she's kind of fat and the face is average. I am not wasting a nut on that lmao.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2955386]You are right, the prices have a wide range and it's not really corrrelated to looks. Seeing a range of 250-500 k, what do you offer to pay? What's the advantage of Facebook girls over the casa girls?[/QUOTE]There are literally thousands of girls in Medellin on Facebook so you have a lot of choices. The down side is that it does take some time to find these girls but once you have a certain number of Facebook girls, FB will start recommending more girls in Medellin to you.
The girls come to you so you can enjoy the comforts of your room and not that dumpy casa room where you don't know if they ever change the sheets.
At some point in the conversation with the girls, you need to bring up price. Often for whatever reason the girls don't mention money and you might think that they don't want money and you would be mistaken most of the time. I often bring up the topic of money and ask how much they expect. They will throw out a wide range of prices but it doesn't matter. If it is more than you want to pay, just say it is too much and then they will ask how much you are willing to pay, and then you just negotiate and see if you can come to an agreement. You should also make sure that the girl will agree to whatever you would like the girl to do in the bed. In my experience, the range of 200-300 mil plus taxi will usually closes the deal but not always. Every girl is different as to what she is willing to accept and due to the large number of girls on Facebook and the lack of price transparency, there is no going rate due to wide differences in the girls as to age and looks. It is whatever that particulr girl is willing to accept.
You don't have to rely on FB pictures of the girl. You can arrange for a video call with the girl to see what she actually looks like.
I think the best approach is to ask a more subtle question like "que tipo de relacion buscas si nos conocimos" (what kind of relationship are you looking for if we meet? Prepagos will reply "beneficio mutuo" or "sexo por dinero". In my experience there are plenty of nonpros on social media too and they have provided some of the best sexual experiences and most fun I've had out and about in Medellin. So I try to be subtle and not turn anyone off in my exchanges over social media.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2955633]There are literally thousands of girls in Medellin on Facebook so you have a lot of choices. The down side is that it does take some time to find these girls but once you have a certain number of Facebook girls, FB will start recommending more girls in Medellin to you.
The girls come to you so you can enjoy the comforts of your room and not that dumpy casa room where you don't know if they ever change the sheets.
At some point in the conversation with the girls, you need to bring up price. Often for whatever reason the girls don't mention money and you might think that they don't want money and you would be mistaken most of the time. I often bring up the topic of money and ask how much they expect. They will throw out a wide range of prices but it doesn't matter. If it is more than you want to pay, just say it is too much and then they will ask how much you are willing to pay, and then you just negotiate and see if you can come to an agreement. You should also make sure that the girl will agree to whatever you would like the girl to do in the bed. In my experience, the range of 200-300 mil plus taxi will usually closes the deal but not always. Every girl is different as to what she is willing to accept and due to the large number of girls on Facebook and the lack of price transparency, there is no going rate due to wide differences in the girls as to age and looks. It is whatever that particulr girl is willing to accept.
You don't have to rely on FB pictures of the girl. You can arrange for a video call with the girl to see what she actually looks like.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2955619]Laura Bustamante messaged me on Facebook, she seems to be popular on this forum. She's a 5/10 at best, she's kind of fat and the face is average. I am not wasting a nut on that lmao.[/QUOTE]Laura maybe average to above average looking, but she speaks perfect english, has her own car, and can give guys tours around Medelloin. That's why guys like her. She's thick not fat with all natural tits.
Decided a rode trip to Colombia. Any experience brothers in the area? I will be in the Laureles area.
[QUOTE=SamSadees2;2955123]I heard there was a ban from the mayor due to illegal sex activity there. Is it still in effect or is it largely gone now? I'll be coming to Medellin next week for a month. Hope to find some 18 year olds there. Where should I look? And are they all of legal age? Are they screened somehow to make sure everything is legit? I heard street walkers were plenty there but without verification, it's hard to tell if they got a fake ID or whatever. Also, anyone up for a meetup?[/QUOTE]What ban are you referring to? Illegal activity is still illegal and will most likely always be illegal. And, no, all the girls in Medellin did not grow up overnight and become of legal age. Who would screen and how? Who would verify street walkers? Identifying a fake ID depends on how good the fake ID, though I think the most common method is just to borrow or steal a real ID from an older similar girl. You should sit down with some patience and read back several dozens of pages and get a better picture of how it all works, that is the best advise I can give you.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2955831]Laura maybe average to above average looking, but she speaks perfect english, has her own car, and can give guys tours around Medelloin. That's why guys like her. She's thick not fat with all natural tits.[/QUOTE]I have never met her but I would not be so quick to dismiss her qualities. Not everyone is looking for the same thing. I have been told that she speaks English and I've been told that she is very friendly and can converse with you on a number of topics and can be good company on sightsee trips. If you tell her where you would like to do, she can make some recommendations for you and keep you company. That is more than can be said for your typical streetwalker in El Centro.
Does anyone advise how risky it is getting scoped while visiting casa. Did it happen to anyone here?
Further, I. Am planing to visit chicas from Photo Prepagos, Mileroticos and other websites. Are these chicas and their places safe? I won't be using tinder for sure. But just worried of this particular drug.
Kindly advise as I am getting worried after watching videos on YouTube.
[QUOTE=TheDarkLord101;2956013]Does anyone advise how risky it is getting scoped while visiting casa. Did it happen to anyone here?
Further, I. Am planing to visit chicas from Photo Prepagos, Mileroticos and other websites. Are these chicas and their places safe? I won't be using tinder for sure. But just worried of this particular drug.
Kindly advise as I am getting worried after watching videos on YouTube.[/QUOTE]No risk at all of getting scoped visiting a casa. Very low risk visiting chicas from Mileroticos, etc.
[QUOTE=TheDarkLord101;2956013]Does anyone advise how risky it is getting scoped while visiting casa. Did it happen to anyone here?
Further, I. Am planing to visit chicas from Photo Prepagos, Mileroticos and other websites. Are these chicas and their places safe? I won't be using tinder for sure. But just worried of this particular drug.
Kindly advise as I am getting worried after watching videos on YouTube.[/QUOTE]I think it's mainly guys getting scoped by parque lleras street walkers.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2955619]Laura Bustamante messaged me on Facebook, she seems to be popular on this forum. She's a 5/10 at best, she's kind of fat and the face is average. I am not wasting a nut on that lmao.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for a hot young paisa, Laura is not for you. She used to hang out at the mansion & many guys loved being with her. As others have said, big natural boobs, speaks english, very trustworthy & she knows how to make a man happy sexually. You can also hire her as a driver to take you to Guatape o anywhere else you want to go.
[QUOTE=TheDarkLord101;2956013]Does anyone advise how risky it is getting scoped while visiting casa. Did it happen to anyone here?
Further, I. Am planing to visit chicas from Photo Prepagos, Mileroticos and other websites. Are these chicas and their places safe? I won't be using tinder for sure. But just worried of this particular drug.
Kindly advise as I am getting worried after watching videos on YouTube.[/QUOTE]Very high risk of advanced scoping: [URL]https://crest.com/en-us/oral-care-products/mouthwash/scope-mouthwash-original-mint[/URL].
The only thing that offers a guarantee is a life insurance policy.
[QUOTE=TheDarkLord101;2956013]Does anyone advise how risky it is getting scoped while visiting casa. Did it happen to anyone here?
But just worried of this particular drug.
Kindly advise as I am getting worried after watching videos on YouTube.[/QUOTE]Some Dark Lord you are. If you guys are so worried about getting drugged then just do ST. You can do LT too, just do not drink. That pretty much solves the problem. Also, best to not to get 2 girls.
[QUOTE=Questner;2956243]Very high risk of advanced scoping: [URL]https://crest.com/en-us/oral-care-products/mouthwash/scope-mouthwash-original-mint[/URL].
The only thing that offers a guarantee is a life insurance policy.[/QUOTE]Getting scoped while inside of a casa??
Is this even a serious question?
Hi,
What nightclubs in Medellin are open every day, have a lot of people, and close late at night? Later than 4 am?
Thank you!
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2956347]Getting scoped while inside of a casa??
Is this even a serious question?[/QUOTE]LOL. They are trying to run a business. How would they look drugging and robbing the customers? You get drugged and robbed by fly by night people, not someone that has an established presence.
I think it is a serious question from someone who doesn't have a way to know how unserious and borderline crazy some of the youtube content is. I think it's a normal reaction to the high volume of bullshit that is published about Colombia. The answer of course is no one needs to worry about being drugged and robbed in a casa. It's conceivable that a girl might swipe cash out of your wallet if you don't pay attention but even that is not a common occurrence.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2956347]Getting scoped while inside of a casa??
Is this even a serious question?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2956280]Some Dark Lord you are. If you guys are so worried about getting drugged then just do ST. You can do LT too, just do not drink. That pretty much solves the problem. Also, best to not to get 2 girls.[/QUOTE]I find trying the girl to a chair with her hands bound behind her back usually does the trick. Ofc it can impact service delivery though.
You make a good point. They casas operate cooperatively to protect their businesses. For example, about 10 years ago the Centro casas (and there were quite a for more of them in those days) were having a problem with a gang of robbers that was preying on casa customers by pretending to be police. They targeted locals and foreigners. Their routine was to flash fake IDs then intimidate punters with claims that they can prove the casa employed illegal girls and they could wind up in prison. They would ask for bribes and even stage fake arrests to lead guys away to a side street where they would rob them. It got so bad that the casas started displaying a poster with a video capture photo from one of their security cameras of the leader of the gang and a warning to avoi them. The poster also expressly denied any illegal aged employees.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2956461]LOL. They are trying to run a business. How would they look drugging and robbing the customers? You get drugged and robbed by fly by night people, not someone that has an established presence.[/QUOTE]
Luna Lunera, where your mileage may vary.
[QUOTE=MxTH9;2956415]Hi,
What nightclubs in Medellin are open every day, have a lot of people, and close late at night? Later than 4 am?
Thank you![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MxTH9;2956415]Hi,
What nightclubs in Medellin are open every day, have a lot of people, and close late at night? Later than 4 am?
Thank you![/QUOTE]Must be a riddle. I give up.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2955136]There are literally thousands of girls based in Medellin on Facebook. Each girl has her own thoughts of what she is worth. You can ask 20 girls and the prices will be different. No, they don't typically stay for 2-3 hours but you can ask for that if you want. For me, it doesn't really matter what the girls will quote me. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and they can decide to take it or not take it.[/QUOTE]Is there any good way to do a FB search for Medellin girls? I've had some limited success, but there has to be another way. Also looking to get some contact info on Laura Bustamante- I'd like to get someone to pick me up at the airport. TIA.
[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2956747]Is there any good way to do a FB search for Medellin girls? I've had some limited success, but there has to be another way. Also looking to get some contact info on Laura Bustamante- I'd like to get someone to pick me up at the airport. TIA.[/QUOTE]Message Laura on FB messenger.
I'm heading back to MDE mid-November. I like finding massages outside of Centro. A few new ones (new to me, at least) have caught my eye and I'm wondering if anyone has had any experiences.
Anyone try out Ganesha or Thao? I tend to enjoy the more sensual places. In fact, I'm willing to give up FS for a good, slow, sensual cuerpo a cuerpo. I'll get the FS at night. LOL.
Have you been to EM Spa in Manilla? I'm thinking of trying it because I'm curious about the "erotic massage" experience. I saw it mentioned on one of the Telegram groups I'm on and added it. I'm headed to Medellin now, so may try it in the next few days and have a solid opinion. I've been curious about the non FS spas ever since a girl I know looked for a job at one and was telling me about the training.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2956765]I'm heading back to MDE mid-November. I like finding massages outside of Centro. A few new ones (new to me, at least) have caught my eye and I'm wondering if anyone has had any experiences.
Anyone try out Ganesha or Thao? I tend to enjoy the more sensual places. In fact, I'm willing to give up FS for a good, slow, sensual cuerpo a cuerpo. I'll get the FS at night. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Recondite;2957078]Have you been to EM Spa in Manilla? I'm thinking of trying it because I'm curious about the "erotic massage" experience. I saw it mentioned on one of the Telegram groups I'm on and added it. I'm headed to Medellin now, so may try it in the next few days and have a solid opinion. I've been curious about the non FS spas ever since a girl I know looked for a job at one and was telling me about the training.[/QUOTE]I have not heard of it. If you're ok with non-FS and a quality sensual massage while leaving happy, I would recommend Happy Massage in Castropol. It's on the pricier end, especially considering it's not FS. But I've never had a bad experience there and feel it's a good value. Good people. Nice facilities.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2957078]Have you been to EM Spa in Manilla? I'm thinking of trying it because I'm curious about the "erotic massage" experience. I saw it mentioned on one of the Telegram groups I'm on and added it. I'm headed to Medellin now, so may try it in the next few days and have a solid opinion. I've been curious about the non FS spas ever since a girl I know looked for a job at one and was telling me about the training.[/QUOTE]Do you mean OM Spa at Mall Rio Sur in Milla de Oro? If so, it's alright. Pick your girl, then comes the up-charge after the massage. Not bad, not great for the price.
[QUOTE=MxTH9;2956415]Hi,
What nightclubs in Medellin are open every day, have a lot of people, and close late at night? Later than 4 am?
Thank you![/QUOTE]Try the clubs at Mall Palmahia in Itagui for after hours. Not many gringos there so keep your wits about you.
It seems like all the U23 chicks on Tinder, Facebook, etc. Have unionized. I keep getting the same quote - 300 k mas taxis. I don't bite on that shit but hopefully others can stay strong and we can get the market back on track. Obviously, those that pound the pavement and go to casas can get a much lower price, but it's just strange to see all these 19-21 yo chicks saying the same thing. I don't have the time and they don't have the desire to teach them about supply and demand.
Cheers.
It's always great to have you back on here dropping truth bombs. Don't be a stranger.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2957176]Do you mean OM Spa at Mall Rio Sur in Milla de Oro? If so, it's alright. Pick your girl, then comes the up-charge after the massage. Not bad, not great for the price.
Try the clubs at Mall Palmahia in Itagui for after hours. Not many gringos there so keep your wits about you.
It seems like all the U23 chicks on Tinder, Facebook, etc. Have unionized. I keep getting the same quote - 300 k mas taxis. I don't bite on that shit but hopefully others can stay strong and we can get the market back on track. Obviously, those that pound the pavement and go to casas can get a much lower price, but it's just strange to see all these 19-21 yo chicks saying the same thing. I don't have the time and they don't have the desire to teach them about supply and demand.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2957176]Do you mean OM Spa at Mall Rio Sur in Milla de Oro? If so, it's alright. Pick your girl, then comes the up-charge after the massage. Not bad, not great for the price.
Try the clubs at Mall Palmahia in Itagui for after hours. Not many gringos there so keep your wits about you.
It seems like all the U23 chicks on Tinder, Facebook, etc. Have unionized. I keep getting the same quote - 300 k mas taxis. I don't bite on that shit but hopefully others can stay strong and we can get the market back on track. Obviously, those that pound the pavement and go to casas can get a much lower price, but it's just strange to see all these 19-21 yo chicks saying the same thing. I don't have the time and they don't have the desire to teach them about supply and demand.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]On the whole, I am not getting 300 mil mas taxi quotes from FB girls in the 19-21 age range. Of course, there will be those quoting higher prices but I just say it is too high and then it is the typical negotation. The inital quote is usually just a starting point for negotiations. Remember there is no going rate for Facebook girls. Each girl is different and each girl has her own price. Also as you would anticipate, the price that a girl is willing to accept can depend on the characteristics of the guy or her perception of the guy.
There is demand for young very attractive girls in Medellin and there is a lot of gringos visiting Medellin with money so supply and demand may result in a higher price for that particular girl and she doesn't need to lower her quoted price. 300 mil mas taxi or higher is not out of line for a young pretty girl who men consider to be a 8 or above.
What do you guys think is the best place to find young attractive ladies who are available in the afternoon? I'm getting old now and prefer to bang one out before my big meals but most it seems are only available during the nightlife. I like a good buzz at night and flirting with the girls but I also love sex when I'm totally sober. Looking for skinny young females.
[QUOTE=SamSadees2;2957321]What do you guys think is the best place to find young attractive ladies who are available in the afternoon? I'm getting old now and prefer to bang one out before my big meals but most it seems are only available during the nightlife. I like a good buzz at night and flirting with the girls but I also love sex when I'm totally sober. Looking for skinny young females.[/QUOTE]Why don't you try out the casas in the afternoon. Plenty in centro area.
Folks,
Boots on ground and went for usual scoping out the street talent in Centro.
Not a single worth mentioning, very unpalatable quality and another strange observation is the uptick of trannies.
Am I missing out something. I give a bit of benefit of doubt as its raining on and off and street scenes might be a casualty.
This is another place. It is called em spa. A friend sent me the telegram channel. I'm kind of expecting to be disappointed but I figure something like a nuru message is worth checking off my bucketlist.
I've included their Instagram below.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/spaemoficial?igsh=MThoc2Uzbmpid2xraQ=={tagreplacement0}[/URL]
I went to a couple so far. Recent comments about Zandaly ring true. It might have been the day or time but I didn't see any of the chicas I knew from before and the new crop was pretty dismal. I also went to Angeles Spa in Laureles. They are 160 mil for the hour but a bit better quality too. Went with a girl called Caroline. She was pretty. Had implants but already had some tits so they looked natural. She put in a solid effort but we didn't have crazy chemistry. I like girls who show a bit of personality sexually especially in the casas. By that I mean that they aren't afraid to share likes and dislikes and she some personality in the way they fuck.
Caroline was all about trying to be what I wanted her to be, which I found a bit boring. The other girls in the lineup were less attractive, though I saw a really cute blonde going up the stairs when I left. The facilities were nothing special. But I'll probably check it out again. The girls photos on telegram aren't complete works of fiction unlike Zandalys current page.
I visited this one twice for Nuru massage, very pleasurable experience. It's in a residential neighborhood in Laureles.
[URL]https://sajanispa.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Recondite;2957386]This is another place. It is called em spa. A friend sent me the telegram channel. I'm kind of expecting to be disappointed but I figure something like a nuru message is worth checking off my bucketlist.
I've included their Instagram below.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/spaemoficial?igsh=MThoc2Uzbmpid2xraQ=={tagreplacement0}[/URL][/QUOTE]
My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.
[QUOTE=DogLife;2957372]Why don't you try out the casas in the afternoon. Plenty in centro area.[/QUOTE]Is the list posted in the Medellin List still mostly valid? It is dated 2021. Any more recent list? Apologies if I missed where is the asnwer to my question.
Thank you!
[QUOTE=Recondite;2957547]I went to a couple so far. Recent comments about Zandaly ring true. It might have been the day or time but I didn't see any of the chicas I knew from before and the new crop was pretty dismal. I also went to Angeles Spa in Laureles. They are 160 mil for the hour but a bit better quality too. Went with a girl called Caroline. She was pretty. Had implants but already had some tits so they looked natural. She put in a solid effort but we didn't have crazy chemistry. I like girls who show a bit of personality sexually especially in the casas. By that I mean that they aren't afraid to share likes and dislikes and she some personality in the way they fuck.
Caroline was all about trying to be what I wanted her to be, which I found a bit boring. The other girls in the lineup were less attractive, though I saw a really cute blonde going up the stairs when I left. The facilities were nothing special. But I'll probably check it out again. The girls photos on telegram aren't complete works of fiction unlike Zandalys current page.[/QUOTE]Hi everyone, I have never been in Colombia so far, but I am planning to go there sometime next year. I saw a lot young and beautiful girls in the Medellin nightlife. I also see casas are mentioned here in the forum, but I have no idea what are casas and how to find these in Medellin, many thanks for your advice and information. Appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2957617]My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.[/QUOTE]This my friend is very helpful.
I am planning to visit MDE from 13-16 Nov, flying from DC area. If anyone else is planning to go in the same time, let me know. Would like to form a buddy system where one watches out for other.
Can veterans recommend any airbnbs, hotels which are near to poblanos or park lleras which has a good security guard and allows chicas?
For a first time solo visitor, I already know about the manison hotel as an option.
Help me validate if this following is also doable:
1. Get an airbnb near park lleras or poblanos which has guard and allows guests.
2. Go to clubs, find girl and bring her to the room.
Is it still unsafe for 1ST in the above scenario?
As per usual a casa run is my plan be or see when other options don't work out. I've had a bit of a run of bad luck lately, so I've been hitting the casas. I had a lineup of new girls, these are more semipros and nonpros, to see including some I thought were sure things but things haven't panned out as I'd hoped with a couple. The nice thing about a casa is you can grab a taxi there at the last minute and have a good time when your other options aren't working out. My goal this time has been to visit more of the Laureles casas that are heavily promoted and well reviewed on telegram.
So yesterday I went to Chicaplus which was off LA 70 and avenida San Juan. Saw a chica called Candela, who is a thinner spinner type with glasses but gave off a great energy when I saw the lineup (3 or so girls). She was fun and had a good sexual energy. Sloppy BJ (I gave her extra for BBBJ as per usual). She's into the grinding skin to skin to the point where I thought she was going to let me fuck her raw as she had me in her entrance. I encouraged her to use a vibrator during sex, which made her get into things. She told me she has a boyfriend that doesn't know she's working and doesn't do all the things she wants sexually. From talking to quite a few chicas at this point, seems like Colombian guys are often more vanilla than we are.
The other thing I liked about Chicaplus were the rooms.
The room we used was nicer than your standard casa and had a nice bathroom attached.
100 K BBBJ upcharge is flat out abusive.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2957617]My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2957982]100 K BBBJ upcharge is flat out abusive.[/QUOTE]They'd never ask Colombian guys for that amount. Hats off to gringos who get hot chicas to BBBJ for less. BTW DATY is still free from some chicas.
100 k for BBBJ. No gracias for me.
Usually settle for 20 k 30 k.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2958028]They'd never ask Colombian guys for that amount. Hats off to gringos who get hot chicas to BBBJ for less. BTW DATY is still free from some chicas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2957982]100 K BBBJ upcharge is flat out abusive.[/QUOTE]So 100 extra for BBBJ. Another 100 to eat her pussy that was just fucked by a few other dudes back to back (ewww). And maybe another 100 base rate. So we are looking at 300 k to fuck a hardened pro at a cheap (or not so cheap anymore? LOL) casa in el centro. Damn. 300 k should easily get you a fb chick who would come to your place for 2-4 hrs and more often than not, provide GFE without upcharges.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2958090]So 100 extra for BBBJ. Another 100 to eat her pussy that was just fucked by a few other dudes back to back (ewww). And maybe another 100 base rate. So we are looking at 300 k to fuck a hardened pro at a cheap (or not so cheap anymore? LOL) casa in el centro. Damn. 300 k should easily get you a fb chick who would come to your place for 2-4 hrs and more often than not, provide GFE without upcharges.[/QUOTE]I agree completely. I know Turgid is an experienced monger, but the route he took just doesn't seem smart. In my limited experience using Facebook, the women come over and hang for a couple hours for a reasonable rate and BBBJ is stipulated beforehand. The big drawback of Facebook for me is that you can't interact with chicas in person beforehand to see if there is a vibe. But you sure as hell aren't going to get that in a casa either. And eating out a chica is not something one should pay extra for.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2957617]My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.[/QUOTE]Thank your for your trip report [B]Turgid[/B].
[B]Your time; your money, your dick; your call[/B]! Perhaps some of you need to take a moment to contemplate that idea.
[QUOTE=Combo;2958118]I agree completely. I know Turgid is an experienced monger, but the route he took just doesn't seem smart. [/QUOTE]It is terrible value for sure. I guess that is his comfort zone. Someone should help to convert him if he asks for it.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2957617]My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.[/QUOTE]The upcharges are ridiculous. When you were in Bogota I hope that you went to Tantra because BBBJ is standard with no upcharge and any Casa I've been to never charged me for DATY if I decided to do that. She definitely charged you a Gringo Tax.
[QUOTE=Combo;2958118]I agree completely. I know Turgid is an experienced monger, but the route he took just doesn't seem smart. In my limited experience using Facebook, the women come over and hang for a couple hours for a reasonable rate and BBBJ is stipulated beforehand. The big drawback of Facebook for me is that you can't interact with chicas in person beforehand to see if there is a vibe. But you sure as hell aren't going to get that in a casa either. And eating out a chica is not something one should pay extra for.[/QUOTE]What are the keywords you search to find Facebook girls?
The once I found do not reply. I look for city Medellin but beyond that don't have luck.
[QUOTE=WawaRider;2957842]For a first time solo visitor, I already know about the manison hotel as an option.
Help me validate if this following is also doable:
1. Get an airbnb near park lleras or poblanos which has guard and allows guests.
2. Go to clubs, find girl and bring her to the room.
Is it still unsafe for 1ST in the above scenario?[/QUOTE]First-time solo visitor? Yes. #2 will get you in trouble until you get your local radar and contacts working better.
I ended up checking out EM Spa in Poblado this morning for a change of pace. They do erotic massages like nuru. Handjob and fingering the girl is included in some services. I did a nuru massage as I'd never had one. The place is pretty legit. There were candles in the room and the girl had a whole kit with feathers and all. It was 400 mil for an hour of Nuru. So not super cheap but I thought it was a good experience and a nice change of pace. The chica got me off no issue. She opened up and was laughing and joking with me. We also talked a lot about sex and likes and dislikes, relationships, and the culture in Medellin. So I felt like it was appropriate to see if I could get her number. But no luck. Might be possible with another visit. They have couples massages and 4 hand erotic massages too. Anyway it's not full sex but for me at least it's good to shuffle it up every now and then too. So I'd recommend the spot based on that. There are also cheaper massage options than nuru. That was one of the more expensive ones. I posted the link to their Instagram in my previous post.
[QUOTE=WawaRider;2958222]What are the keywords you search to find Facebook girls?
The once I found do not reply. I look for city Medellin but beyond that don't have luck.[/QUOTE]Look up my post from January. Follow the pattern of the instruction. You should find plenty of them.
You can stay at mansion for a few days to collect numbers from there to build your friend list.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2955528]I stayed there only for a few nights earlier this month as my second trip there this year and totally agree on all points.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Recondite;2957929]She told me she has a boyfriend that doesn't know she's working and doesn't do all the things she wants sexually. From talking to quite a few chicas at this point, seems like Colombian guys are often more vanilla than we are.[/QUOTE]Ah, my sweet, summer child. Her boyfriend is probably the one who got her to start working at a casa to begin with. And to be real, she has done more with her boyfriend / exes / baby daddy way before she met you. It's good to enjoy a story from time to time, but this is one you should always ignore. Colombian guys are the same as you or I, they are hounds. It's as believable as a WG in Rio telling you she only does anal for you and not her boyfriend.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2958307]Look up my post from January. Follow the pattern of the instruction. You should find plenty of them.[/QUOTE]The forum does not let me go further than March. Can you link here to your post with instructions?
[QUOTE=Junior11;2958473]The forum does not let me go further than March. Can you link here to your post with instructions?[/QUOTE]You should see the post by searching for [B]Munoz[/B].
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2958090]So 100 extra for BBBJ. Another 100 to eat her pussy that was just fucked by a few other dudes back to back (ewww). And maybe another 100 base rate. So we are looking at 300 k to fuck a hardened pro at a cheap (or not so cheap anymore? LOL) casa in el centro. Damn. 300 k should easily get you a fb chick who would come to your place for 2-4 hrs and more often than not, provide GFE without upcharges.[/QUOTE]Yeah seems kind of. Steep: the.
I wrote in the other Medellin section but I believe my post might be better suited here (I sincerely apologize if this is considered doubleposting, I'll delete it of course).
I am slowly preparing for a trip that I have been postponing for a while (for me as a European that has mainly been to Asia 20+ times, Colombia seems very wild and dangerous).
I am still scared of the scopolamine shit and general crime but I cannot pass up on the extreme beauty of Colombian girls.
I have spoken to a bunch of girls from Tinder, Bumble, PasionPrepagos and other Escort sites and generally speaking girls seem to be absolutely nogo when it comes to having unprotected / raw sex.
Am I just approaching the girls wrong or not offering enough extra *tips* or is it very uncommon to rawdog Colombian hookers in Medelling & Bogota? I would appreciate any kind of advice on that as I really dislike cumming inside a rubber (God I miss Pattaya just typing this).
Also. How much is the difference between a typical redlight street girl and a girl in one of the clubs in Parque Lleras for example? Whats the price range here? Any updated info on that? (young attractive girls only. Max 24 years old). If there is someone on the ground that has a lot of experience and can give me some input I would be happy to pay a couple of rounds or even send some paypal.
[QUOTE=Argo1990;2958514]I have spoken to a bunch of girls from Tinder, Bumble, PasionPrepagos and other Escort sites and generally speaking girls seem to be absolutely nogo when it comes to having unprotected / raw sex. [/QUOTE]Core issue is you are a stranger approaching them online. Like many places, girls are super scared initially. But calm down once they get to know someone in person.
[QUOTE]Also. How much is the difference between a typical redlight street girl and a girl in one of the clubs in Parque Lleras for example? Whats the price range here? Any updated info on that? (young attractive girls only. Max 24 years old).[/QUOTE]They are the same thing. There have been many many posts outlining pricing (including several by myself). $300 K COP on the low end to girls in the crowded parks / night asking $600 K+ COP. I, personally, find that $400 K COP (less than $100 USD) works great and they are not feeling lowballed and have a good time without clock watching or anxious to find the next guy.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2958465]Ah, my sweet, summer child. Her boyfriend is probably the one who got her to start working at a casa to begin with. And to be real, she has done more with her boyfriend / exes / baby daddy way before she met you. It's good to enjoy a story from time to time, but this is one you should always ignore. Colombian guys are the same as you or I, they are hounds. It's as believable as a WG in Rio telling you she only does anal for you and not her boyfriend.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. Colombia has one of the (if not the world's) highest rate of single mothers. The guys are all players and want to-be-pimps. They typically don't even bother to hide what they do from their BF or even their family.
[QUOTE=Argo1990;2958514]Yeah seems kind of. Steep: the.
I wrote in the other Medellin section but I believe my post might be better suited here (I sincerely apologize if this is considered doubleposting, I'll delete it of course).
I am slowly preparing for a trip that I have been postponing for a while (for me as a European that has mainly been to Asia 20+ times, Colombia seems very wild and dangerous).
I am still scared of the scopolamine shit and general crime but I cannot pass up on the extreme beauty of Colombian girls.
I have spoken to a bunch of girls from Tinder, Bumble, PasionPrepagos and other Escort sites and generally speaking girls seem to be absolutely nogo when it comes to having unprotected / raw sex.
Am I just approaching the girls wrong or not offering enough extra *tips* or is it very uncommon to rawdog Colombian hookers in Medelling & Bogota? I would appreciate any kind of advice on that as I really dislike cumming inside a rubber (God I miss Pattaya just typing this).
Also. How much is the difference between a typical redlight street girl and a girl in one of the clubs in Parque Lleras for example? Whats the price range here? Any updated info on that? (young attractive girls only. Max 24 years old). If there is someone on the ground that has a lot of experience and can give me some input I would be happy to pay a couple of rounds or even send some paypal.[/QUOTE]Stick with casas and prepagos (prepaid escorts) unless you just crave strip bars, expensive drinks, and even more expensive pussy. Otherwise, always order something that comes in a sealed container and have it open in your sight (ie, get a bottle of beer and have them open it in front of you) It's just not a good idea to get sloppy drunk when you're mongering. Some guys do it and get away with it, some pay a price. Casas and escorts are Medellin's specialty and probably the best value. Just remember, safety first. Don't be a dar papaya.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2957617]My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.[/QUOTE]Are you aware of any updated or regular casa maps for Medellin or elsewhere? I'm convinced that's definitely the way to go in Colombia.
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[QUOTE=Argo1990;2958514]…..I have spoken to a bunch of girls from Tinder, Bumble, PasionPrepagos and other Escort sites and generally speaking girls seem to be absolutely nogo when it comes to having unprotected / raw sex….Am I just approaching the girls wrong or not offering enough extra *tips* or is it very uncommon to rawdog Colombian hookers in Medellin & Bogota? ….If there is someone on the ground that has a lot of experience and can give me some input I would be happy to pay a couple of rounds or even send some paypal.[/QUOTE]Hope the following proves helpful.
I'm writing as a relatively seasoned Medellin monger (I've been visiting for 4 to 6 months a year since 2019) to share one guy's experience in securing bareback sex in Paisa Pussyland, Having entered my geezerhood, I've increasingly found the condom to be "el enimigo de placer" (the enemy of pleasure) and, even with a blue pill assist, sometimes have trouble maintaining a hardon when the tool is clad in latex. As a result, my monger mode of operation has been to maintain a core stable of 4 or 5 chicas willing to provide bareback sex and whom I'm reasonably comfortable (albeit not certain) aren't unduly careless themselves (they at least put up some initial resistance).
In respect to your post, I've always assumed that requesting unprotected sex online (whether with facebook / tinder / bumble girls or through escort sites such as PhotoPrepagos) is a non-starter and have never bothered to ask. That said, once a chica has come to my apartment and we've had at least a few, face-to-face minutes to have some laughs and to establish some trust and rapport, I've had about a 75% success rate in securing uncovered sex. This over a shared joint or drink (mine a bottle that I guard like a hawk) in nice digs with a spectacular view. And a chance for her to confirm that, although ancient, I'm acceptably trim and fit (for whatever that may be worth), and, (most importantly) hygienic. Here I'm talking about ladies I've recruited from facebook, met on the street in Parque Lleras, or obtained their WhatsApp at a casa or strip club.
In addition, the last two years, immediately on my arrival in Medellin, I've had myself tested for the full set of STDs and saved the negative results on my cell phone. This has proved very useful in winning over a number of chicas who, at first, were extremely reluctant to bareback. I also make a point of mentioning that I spend six months a year in Medellin and am looking for someone whom I would see regularly, long term.
In most cases, we've already agreed in advance on other GFE services (DFK, BBBJ) and on a payment. Some chicas (especially those who didn't negotiate aggressively over price in the first place) agree to bareback without requesting any additional payment when we discuss my preferences. For those that still prove reluctant, my offering a "propina" (tip) of 50 to 100 k usually seals the deal.
During my first visits here, I was surprised on several occasions when a chica that I had met at a strip club (one at the relatively upscale Luna Lunera) slipped me in bareback without my asking on her first or second visit to my apartment. This after a lot of laughs, some good initial sex, and I guess them seeing me as a possible long term client. Also at Barra Ejecutiva, one gal rawdogged on her initiative with no discussion. On a few other occasions, at casas and strip clubs in El Centro, I've obtained full service sex (sex without condom) for a propina. Here again, having STD test results on your cell can help in obtaining consent.
Clearly, it's risky / dumb to bareback chicas who prove willing to rawdog so promiscuously. I'm more comfortable with the ladies who say no at first or at least express some hesitance--and, otherwise, try to keep my pecker in my pants. Also, I have started to pay to have the girls in my core stable tested for STDs themselves every two months or so, something they seem to welcome. Perhaps a waste of money (who knows what they're up to when not with me and it can take a longish incubation period before some STDs show up on tests), but so far so good.
My impression from a couple of the more confirmed ISG El Centro rats that I've met is that it's pretty easy to obtain bareback sex from SWs and in the clubs downtown—if you're not picky about looks, perhaps for no payment or a nominal extra payment. At the other end of the mongering spectrum, the guys I know who mostly pull non-pros and semi-pros from the internet, report that, as often as not, the girls provide BBBJ and bareback sex without being asked, and without any upfront discussion. But all that's just second-hand info.
Happy to share a coffee or brew when you're next in Medellin (for me, come January 2025). Meanwhile good luck with dipping in raw—and proceed at your own risk.
[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2958994]Hope the following proves helpful.
I'm writing as a relatively seasoned Medellin monger (I've been visiting for 4 to 6 months a year since 2019) to share one guy's experience in securing bareback sex in Paisa Pussyland, Having entered my geezerhood, I've increasingly found the condom to be "el enimigo de placer" (the enemy of pleasure) and, even with a blue pill assist, sometimes have trouble maintaining a hardon when the tool is clad in latex. As a result, my monger mode of operation has been to maintain a core stable of 4 or 5 chicas willing to provide bareback sex and whom I'm reasonably comfortable (albeit not certain) aren't unduly careless themselves (they at least put up some initial resistance).
In respect to your post, I've always assumed that requesting unprotected sex online (whether with facebook / tinder / bumble girls or through escort sites such as PhotoPrepagos) is a non-starter and have never bothered to ask. That said, once a chica has come to my apartment and we've had at least a few, face-to-face minutes to have some laughs and to establish some trust and rapport, I've had about a 75% success rate in securing uncovered sex. This over a shared joint or drink (mine a bottle that I guard like a hawk) in nice digs with a spectacular view...[/QUOTE]Hey,
I'm a 36 year old from Chicago. January-Feb 2025 will be my first trip and would love to grab a coffee or drink and get the lay of the land!
Is there a fast testing center you use?
Also do you use PreP when you are bareback?
[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2958994]Hope the following proves helpful.
I'm writing as a relatively seasoned Medellin monger (I've been visiting for 4 to 6 months a year since 2019) to share one guy's experience in securing bareback sex in Paisa Pussyland, Having entered my geezerhood, I've increasingly found the condom to be "el enimigo de placer" (the enemy of pleasure) and, even with a blue pill assist, sometimes have trouble maintaining a hardon when the tool is clad in latex. As a result, my monger mode of operation has been to maintain a core stable of 4 or 5 chicas willing to provide bareback sex and whom I'm reasonably comfortable (albeit not certain) aren't unduly careless themselves (they at least put up some initial resistance).
In respect to your post, I've always assumed that requesting unprotected sex online (whether with facebook / tinder / bumble girls or through escort sites such as PhotoPrepagos) is a non-starter and have never bothered to ask. That said, once a chica has come to my apartment and we've had at least a few, face-to-face minutes to have some laughs and to establish some trust and rapport, I've had about a 75% success rate in securing uncovered sex. This over a shared joint or drink (mine a bottle that I guard like a hawk) in nice digs with a spectacular view. And a chance for her to confirm that, although ancient, I'm acceptably trim and fit (for whatever that may be worth), and, (most importantly) hygienic. Here I'm talking about ladies I've recruited from facebook, met on the street in Parque Lleras, or obtained their WhatsApp at a casa or strip club...[/QUOTE]
I confirmed my travel to MDE Nov. 20-23rd. Staying close to Poblado. If anyone else is going to be in town same time, would like to tag along and watch out for each other.
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[QUOTE=WawaRider;2959023]Is there a fast testing center you use?
Also do you use PreP when you are bareback?[/QUOTE]Several of my chicas were familiar with Profamilia Medellíand in centrally located Candelaria (Calle 54 and. #43-47). For convenience to where I stay and less of a crowd scene, I've used Laboratorio CLínico VID Sede Laureles, Cq. 73 A #38-30, Laureles. Estadio, but it's on the pricier side. They have a number of other locations. Most labs only perform tests up to some hour in the late morning. Note that HIV tests are relatively cheap (60 to 80 k as I recall), with the results available the same day or next. The full gamut of STD tests (to include chlamydia, genital herpes, gonorrhea, and syphilis) can cost an addition 100 to 200 k, and, for some of these, it can take a number of days, even a week, to receive the results. Also, if the lab uses urine tests rather than a genital swab for some of these tests, then be aware that you, or the chica, has to fast the morning of the test or bring the urine sample with you. Pharmacies sell sample jars for about 2 k.
I don't take PrepP but have contemplated doing so. How about you. How complicated / costly?
[QUOTE=TheNakedIndian;2959011]Hey,
I'm a 36 year old from Chicago. January-Feb 2025 will be my first trip and would love to grab a coffee or drink and get the lay of the land![/QUOTE]The invite appreciated, but, as I mentioned at the end of my long post, I don't return to Medellin until the beginning of January. Will remain until mid-April. If you happen to still be in Medellin or retun then, I'd welcome getting together. Best to private message me.
I am thinking of taking PreP for Colombia trip. (If its available in Colombian pharmacy).
I don't want to try bareback without taking PreP two days in a row. Thanks for the lab details, I will definitely use them.
[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2959054]Several of my chicas were familiar with Profamilia Medelland in centrally located Candelaria (Calle 54 and. #43-47). For convenience to where I stay and less of a crowd scene, I've used Laboratorio CLnico VID Sede Laureles, Cq. 73 A #38-30, Laureles. Estadio, but it's on the pricier side. They have a number of other locations. Most labs only perform tests up to some hour in the late morning. Note that HIV tests are relatively cheap (60 to 80 k as I recall), with the results available the same day or next. The full gamut of STD tests (to include chlamydia, genital herpes, gonorrhea, and syphilis) can cost an addition 100 to 200 k, and, for some of these, it can take a number of days, even a week, to receive the results. Also, if the lab uses urine tests rather than a genital swab for some of these tests, then be aware that you, or the chica, has to fast the morning of the test or bring the urine sample with you. Pharmacies sell sample jars for about 2 k.
I don't take PrepP but have contemplated doing so. How about you. How complicated / costly?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheNakedIndian;2959011]Hey,
I'm a 36 year old from Chicago. January-Feb 2025 will be my first trip and would love to grab a coffee or drink and get the lay of the land![/QUOTE]Getting dyslexic. I see you wrote that you will also be arriving in January. Message me at any time and we can exchange WhatsApp and coordinate a meetup come the new year.
After a month long stay in Medellin. I did only casas. Overall the trip was quite good and I felt a little reluctant to go back home but I have responsibilities here and could not extend my stay. Apart from the chicas I just like the city and would have no problem staying several months as I used to but unfortunately obligations prevent me from doing that. Although I found the girls not as appealing as in previous trips I still had a good time. Thanks to those guys who commiserated with me on spending COP100,000 extra for BBBJs. I try not to negotiate a price a girl quotes me for extras, a lesser price usually means lesser service in those girls' minds. I either take it or leave it. That is generally my P4P approach. Sometimes a girl who quotes a lesser price would give better service than one with a higher request. Its the luck of the draw. I do plan to return but Cali to which I've never been is for the moment my next Colombian city.
Since the hotties are from there youd think they have casas. Feel free to PM me the details. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2957929]As per usual a casa run is my plan be or see when other options don't work out. I've had a bit of a run of bad luck lately, so I've been hitting the casas. I had a lineup of new girls, these are more semipros and nonpros, to see including some I thought were sure things but things haven't panned out as I'd hoped with a couple. The nice thing about a casa is you can grab a taxi there at the last minute and have a good time when your other options aren't working out. My goal this time has been to visit more of the Laureles casas that are heavily promoted and well reviewed on telegram.
So yesterday I went to Chicaplus which was off LA 70 and avenida San Juan. Saw a chica called Candela, who is a thinner spinner type with glasses but gave off a great energy when I saw the lineup (3 or so girls). She was fun and had a good sexual energy. Sloppy BJ (I gave her extra for BBBJ as per usual). She's into the grinding skin to skin to the point where I thought she was going to let me fuck her raw as she had me in her entrance. I encouraged her to use a vibrator during sex, which made her get into things. She told me she has a boyfriend that doesn't know she's working and doesn't do all the things she wants sexually. From talking to quite a few chicas at this point, seems like Colombian guys are often more vanilla than we are.
The other thing I liked about Chicaplus were the rooms.
The room we used was nicer than your standard casa and had a nice bathroom attached.[/QUOTE]This casa looks nice, I will try this one when I will be there in MDE.
Thanks for sharing.
[QUOTE=Killian94;2959373]
if it's possible to get them tested [/QUOTE]What the hell kind of question is that? How would anybody know what the woman you're talking about is willing or not willing to do or do you think that it's possible that there is no kind of STD testing in Medellin, Colombia?
[QUOTE=Killian94;2959373]Hi guys, I'm planning to come to Medellin soon and I'm planning to meet some girls I talk to on tinder so they can spend 2 weeks with me.
I wanted to know if STDs are very common here and if it's possible to get them tested because I would like to have sex without condoms with them.[/QUOTE]Common enough from what I hear. But your big concern if trying to set up something on Tinder is a more immediate chance of being drugged and robbed. There are many cases of Tinder dates drugging and clients ending up dead.
Ask yourself. What sort of girl or person is going to agree to spend extended time with you before they have met you in real life first. Answer. Not a regular working girl. I would venture a guess that any girl that agrees to something like that on Tinder has other plans for you.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2959540]But your big concern if trying to set up something on Tinder is a more immediate chance of being drugged and robbed.[/QUOTE]What he said, possibly an even more likely concern in spending two weeks with a total stranger is that you won't like her, she will be a pain in the ass, greedy, on drugs, no good in bed, etc.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2959243]Since the hotties are from there youd think they have casas. Feel free to PM me the details. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Nothing I can PM but you can easily find that out with the locals. Met a girl from Centro few weeks ago, she was few days new and said prior to Centro she was working in a casa in bello. So they do have. Medellin in general just like any city, have places that are only known to locals. Bello is a poorer hood, some says it's dangerous LOL. I did a quick visit to a local chica friend there once and I was fine. I also know a brother / american who moved there and lives with his colombiana girlfriend and family and he's good. As long as the locals know you and you aint doing none stupid the gangs will let you be.
[QUOTE=Killian94;2959373]Hi guys, I'm planning to come to Medellin soon and I'm planning to meet some girls I talk to on tinder so they can spend 2 weeks with me.
I wanted to know if STDs are very common here and if it's possible to get them tested because I would like to have sex without condoms with them.[/QUOTE]You post the same thing on the CTG board.
I don't use tinder anymore but there is a safer way to do it. I'd ask for their other social media and go over it carefully before meeting anyone off tinder. That is what I did when I used it. Look for old, accounts, look for personal photos with family and friends. Look for tagged photos posted by friends. Those girls are lower risk. I'd also ask about her job, where she lives, kids etc. I personally found tinder annoying for dating compared to Facebook and Instagram. That combined with issues around safety made me stop using it.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2959540]Common enough from what I hear. But your big concern if trying to set up something on Tinder is a more immediate chance of being drugged and robbed. There are many cases of Tinder dates drugging and clients ending up dead.
Ask yourself. What sort of girl or person is going to agree to spend extended time with you before they have met you in real life first. Answer. Not a regular working girl. I would venture a guess that any girl that agrees to something like that on Tinder has other plans for you.[/QUOTE]
I am almost finished with a three month visit here in Medellin. I took a chance with an Abnb with absolutely no security but I didn't have any issues. Note that I am an experienced traveler. The food generally was fine. You can find places with food that you like. Speaking Spanish would be better but with my limited Spanish I was still able to survive. I found that there was no shortage of young attractive women interested in P4 P for a reasonable price online on Facebook. Some sessions were just average but most were good to great. In the end, I had a good rotation of regular girls that were young and attractive and good in bed. I didn't have any issues with crime during my stay but I was alert and aware of my surroundings.
Everyone does it differently and it's all good. For myself, I passed on the casas and streetwalkers and strip club girls on this trip. Maybe next time. I always say that.
I did meet a number of ISG members during my stay here. In person, everyone was cool and there was none of the mindless debates that happens on this board. Everyone seemed to be happy here on their trips. No one was whining or complaining about things. At least with the guys that I met in person.
On the whole, Medellin is still a good place to visit and you have a lot of fun with the girls here. The druggings and robberies are real though and you do have to be careful.
My friend and I stayed in laureles and we mixed it up with casa and Facebook girls.
Here are some casa girls.
Alana. Her body is stacked, thick in the right places. 200 k for one hour, two shots. Oral natural additional 100 k. Great BJ and sucked me off every time we changed positions. Her breath kinda stank tho, so if you like to kiss then avoid her haha.
[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/alana3105320992[/URL]
Michel. Spinner, super skinny but has a plump booty. 200 k for one hour, one shot only; so I advise you to get 30 min for 150 k. Oral natural is additional 100 k, but my friend said she only sucked for 5 min at most, so I did not opt for it. She didn't give me a BJ, just teased me by rubbing her pussy against my dick for like 5 minutes. Friendly and bubbly girl, no strange vibes.
[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/michel3126201352[/URL]
Sofia. Photos are extremely photoshopped. She was kinda big and her ass was huge but not toned. 160 k for one hour, two shots. Oral natural additional 70 k. She can deep throat and gives a sloppy BJ, but I can feel her damn teeth which made it uncomfortable. I would not recommend.
These stacked girls you see on escort websites, add an additional 20 lbs. They look great in photos, but a bit too voluptuous in person. I prefer the spinners.
[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/sofia3145567462[/URL]
Macarena. While I was at the casa for my booking with Sofia, I saw Macarena and she looks just like the photos. I was getting buyers remorse with Sofia and wish I went with her instead. She's a spinner and seemed bubbly.
[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/macarena3184711633[/URL]
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2957190]On the whole, I am not getting 300 mil mas taxi quotes from FB girls in the 19-21 age range. Of course, there will be those quoting higher prices but I just say it is too high and then it is the typical negotation. The inital quote is usually just a starting point for negotiations. Remember there is no going rate for Facebook girls. Each girl is different and each girl has her own price. Also as you would anticipate, the price that a girl is willing to accept can depend on the characteristics of the guy or her perception of the guy.
There is demand for young very attractive girls in Medellin and there is a lot of gringos visiting Medellin with money so supply and demand may result in a higher price for that particular girl and she doesn't need to lower her quoted price. 300 mil mas taxi or higher is not out of line for a young pretty girl who men consider to be a 8 or above.[/QUOTE]Had two Facebook girls 19 and 20 for toda la noche / BBBJ for 450 más taxi. One of them was an 8, but she was not experienced so I had to teach her how to fuck. Her friend on the other hand was like a 6. 5, but she gave great BBBJ and knew howta flex her pussy which almost made me bust in a few minutes while she was riding me.
[QUOTE=WawaRider;2958222]What are the keywords you search to find Facebook girls?
The once I found do not reply. I look for city Medellin but beyond that don't have luck.[/QUOTE]Only about 20% of them respond to DMs based on my experience, but it's likely because I use a fake profile.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2959619]Had two Facebook girls 19 and 20 for toda la noche / BBBJ for 450 ms taxi. One of them was an 8, but she was not experienced so I had to teach her how to fuck. Her friend on the other hand was like a 6. 5, but she gave great BBBJ and knew howta flex her pussy which almost made me bust in a few minutes while she was riding me.[/QUOTE]Many of the online girls suggest threesomes with their friends because they like to share the wealth, it is less work for them and it is more fun when their friend is around. If you see an online girl, you can always ask her if she has a friend and many will suggest a threesome. Part of it is because if you want to see her friend, she doesn't want to miss out on the money. At the same, it is not common that they will engage in hardcore lesbian activities. There might be playful lesbian action but they are friends and it is just play acting for you. But often there will be some good two girl blowjob action and I find that to be the most part of threesomes.
Now if you don't know either girls, it is more risky because you need to keep an eye on two girls and that can be difficult.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2959646]Many of the online girls suggest threesomes with their friends because they like to share the wealth, it is less work for them and it is more fun when their friend is around. If you see an online girl, you can always ask her if she has a friend and many will suggest a threesome. Part of it is because if you want to see her friend, she doesn't want to miss out on the money. At the same, it is not common that they will engage in hardcore lesbian activities. There might be playful lesbian action but they are friends and it is just play acting for you. But often there will be some good two girl blowjob action and I find that to be the most part of threesomes.
Now if you don't know either girls, it is more risky because you need to keep an eye on two girls and that can be difficult.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I did.
I took the 8, my friend took the 6.5. I was disappointed in my girl's performance, but my friend said his girl was great. The following night, I decided to take them both and got the double BBBJ and used the same condom to penetrate them both. It was amazing, but they only gave me 1 round for 500 k each, so 1 M for that threesome which I felt like it was a bit expensive. I did get a full hour of action tho.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2959243]Since the hotties are from there youd think they have casas. Feel free to PM me the details. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Girls in this profession tend to work at places away from where they live.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2959589]I am almost finished with a three month visit here in Medellin. I took a chance with an Abnb with absolutely no security but I didn't have any issues. Note that I am an experienced traveler. The food generally was fine. You can find places with food that you like. Speaking Spanish would be better but with my limited Spanish I was still able to survive. I found that there was no shortage of young attractive women interested in P4 P for a reasonable price online on Facebook. Some sessions were just average but most were good to great. In the end, I had a good rotation of regular girls that were young and attractive and good in bed. I didn't have any issues with crime during my stay but I was alert and aware of my surroundings.
Everyone does it differently and it's all good. For myself, I passed on the casas and streetwalkers and strip club girls on this trip. Maybe next time. I always say that.
I did meet a number of ISG members during my stay here. In person, everyone was cool and there was none of the mindless debates that happens on this board. Everyone seemed to be happy here on their trips. No one was whining or complaining about things. At least with the guys that I met in person.
On the whole, Medellin is still a good place to visit and you have a lot of fun with the girls here. The druggings and robberies are real though and you do have to be careful.[/QUOTE]Great post!
I'm just back from a 2 week visit. I just walked about Botero during the day and La 70 and Parque Lleras in the evening.
I love Plaza Botero, except when it's raining, LOL.
Befriended lots of girls, takes patience, but I found some very cute, cool girls.
Obviously the majority I don't select, I just chill, walk about, talk with the cool ones, blow off the hard core, and always watch my back.
Parque Lleras is mostly a circus, LOL.
Fun to watch the show tho, for me anyway. Lots of low quality and some hard core hot ones that have been spoiled by the gringo madness, LOL.
My favorite girl of the trip, however, I surprisingly met in Parque Lleras.
I was walking about and she flashed a beautiful smile at me. Pulled her aside to chat. She was nice, but she initially gave me the 1 hour, one hundred dollar blah blah that seems to the norm now that they throw out.
I continued to chat with her a bit, asked for her WhatsApp, explained to her that I don't do the watch the clock, one hour thing, and that we could just meet up the next day and see how it goes together, and that I would take care of her accordingly.
I speak pretty good spanish BTW.
I liked her and I could tell she liked me as well.
After I left her, she would walk back to me from time to time to joke around a bit.
Great sense of humor.
Anyway she came over to my hotel the next day. We chilled, hung out a bit, had fun together.
Ended up about 3 hours together.
I saw her as much as I could fit her in my time, as I was with friends on this trip and was hanging with them as well.
Great trip! Met a couple other ISG guys as well. Nice dudes. No drama.
Like Moonshot says, good fun to be had, whatever your style may be, however, watch your back, always.
Thanks for your update. I'm trying to DM you, can you clear your inbox. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2959712]Great post!
I'm just back from a 2 week visit. I just walked about Botero during the day and La 70 and Parque Lleras in the evening.
I love Plaza Botero, except when it's raining, LOL.
Befriended lots of girls, takes patience, but I found some very cute, cool girls.
Obviously the majority I don't select, I just chill, walk about, talk with the cool ones, blow off the hard core, and always watch my back.
Parque Lleras is mostly a circus, LOL.
Fun to watch the show tho, for me anyway. Lots of low quality and some hard core hot ones that have been spoiled by the gringo madness, LOL.
My favorite girl of the trip, however, I surprisingly met in Parque Lleras.
I was walking about and she flashed a beautiful smile at me. Pulled her aside to chat. She was nice, but she initially gave me the 1 hour, one hundred dollar blah blah that seems to the norm now that they throw out.[/QUOTE]
Did you find some PreP and if yes how much do you pay that? Is it easy to find in Colombia?
To tell you truth, I hate condoms, I always fuck ladies bareback in Colombia and Thailand and I never got any diseases. Maybe because I choose very good my sexy girls!
[QUOTE=WawaRider;2959058]I am thinking of taking PreP for Colombia trip. (If its available in Colombian pharmacy).
I don't want to try bareback without taking PreP two days in a row. Thanks for the lab details, I will definitely use them.[/QUOTE]
I am currently in Medellin till Nov 16. If there are anyone from ISG, then I would be happy to meet and explore.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2959955]Did you find some PreP and if yes how much do you pay that? Is it easy to find in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Prep is very expensive everywhere, but it is covered by all US insurance, making it cheapest to get it at home. Your doctor just needs to know you are 'sexually active' and request it and they won't deny it or challenge you, it has no impact on them except giving a prescription. While they will tell you to take it daily forever, more recent studies find it fully effective to just ramp up before your trip, take it daily during the trip, and a little after (for safely, say a week before, during, and a week after). Pretty much makes you immune to AIDS. Now, before someone says the whole crap of it being only '80-90% effective', that lower efficiency value came from the US study where they asked people IF they took it daily. As Dr. House says, everyone lies. UK and French studies where they pulled blood to validate if they did take the drug daily showed pretty much 100% effectiveness. Combine that with a daily antibiotic for everything 'else' (as recommended in older messages here) and you are relatively safe for bareback fun. Of course, nothing is guaranteed, your mileage may vary, etc. But we would not be here if we were not willing to tolerate some risk in our lives.
I have been there for few days, but for work. That means: no time to play at day, some time at late night, but I was extremely tired (also for jet lag).
Just few notes.
Parque Lleras is not the upscale place it was used to be! I was going there for eating in a good restaurant and chill out looking at sexy girls. Now no more an upscale place, only girl night clubs with solicitors calling tourists (one called me with "hey many semi-virgin girls here!" Yes, sure. I loved the understatement "semi-virgin"). Full of gringos of the worst level, and the girls follow up.
Basically: the same girls that hang out at Veracruz at daytime, move here at night time. The difference is the price LOL!
A place to forget and avoid.
The new place for partying is Provenza, not far from LLeras. No working girls here, but a lot of bars for the young local people and tourists.
I tried a 60k lady at Veracruz an afternoon. Cheap, but nothing to remember. for a tip BBJ, but sloppy and unwilling. Lost money. My fault I did not wait and go only with the special one, if I find the special one.
Best of the best? Well, I have a taxi driver who knows me well since many years. I ask him to take me around at late night in bad places looking at street girls. Believe it or not, after one hour circling around San Diego streets, I found a very sexy one, different from all others, a bit dizzy by some drug but ok, with body in great conditions, and well behaving. Best of all ones. I loved the piercing on both nipples and on the tongue.
We went to Hotel Cupido, near Nikitao: 60k for 3 hours in a large room with jacuzzi. A bit run down, but near the place. It was simply great. We played 2 hours in and out the jacuzzi and I got extra services tipping 100k on top of the initial agreed 110k. Well, call me stupid, I would never pay a silicon girl 200k, but for this one I was mad: totally natural, firm body, tall, beautiful, unprofessional, no bullshit.
Prado is lost. Sometimes there were pretty ones, even junkies, but now only dirty junkies.
Ma man Ryan did a happy walk in downtown Medellin and posted it on YouTube. Luckily, he did not get robbed.
[URL]https://youtu.be/yjWSsbbQg3Q[/URL]
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2960155]I have been there for few days, but for work. That means: no time to play at day, some time at late night, but I was extremely tired (also for jet lag).
Just few notes.
Parque Lleras is...
Basically: the same girls that hang out at Veracruz at daytime, move here at night time. The difference is the price LOL!
A place to forget and avoid.[/QUOTE]I've been saying this since 2021.
I knew a girl named Geisis whom I had followed to Medellin from Bogota and she specifically told me that she would work Botero in the day and then go work lleras at night and charge 5 x more to the gringos there.
Subsequently over the years I've met many more thru Facebook and in Centro that told me the same thing.
Funny it only took you guys 4 years to notice it LOL.
-Gabacho.
For someone who doesn't come here so often you know the city very well.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2960155]I have been there for few days, but for work. That means: no time to play at day, some time at late night, but I was extremely tired (also for jet lag).
Just few notes.
Parque Lleras is not the upscale place it was used to be! I was going there for eating in a good restaurant and chill out looking at sexy girls. Now no more an upscale place, only girl night clubs with solicitors calling tourists (one called me with "hey many semi-virgin girls here!" Yes, sure. I loved the understatement "semi-virgin"). Full of gringos of the worst level, and the girls follow up.
Basically: the same girls that hang out at Veracruz at daytime, move here at night time. The difference is the price LOL!
A place to forget and avoid.
The new place for partying is Provenza, not far from LLeras. No working girls here, but a lot of bars for the young local people and tourists.
I tried a 60k lady at Veracruz an afternoon. Cheap, but nothing to remember. for a tip BBJ, but sloppy and unwilling. Lost money. My fault I did not wait and go only with the special one, if I find the special one.
Best of the best? Well, I have a taxi driver who knows me well since many years. I ask him to take me around at late night in bad places looking at street girls. Believe it or not, after one hour circling around San Diego streets, I found a very sexy one, different from all others, a bit dizzy by some drug but ok, with body in great conditions, and well behaving. Best of all ones. I loved the piercing on both nipples and on the tongue.
We went to Hotel Cupido, near Nikitao: 60k for 3 hours in a large room with jacuzzi. A bit run down, but near the place. It was simply great. We played 2 hours in and out the jacuzzi and I got extra services tipping 100k on top of the initial agreed 110k. Well, call me stupid, I would never pay a silicon girl 200k, but for this one I was mad: totally natural, firm body, tall, beautiful, unprofessional, no bullshit.
Prado is lost. Sometimes there were pretty ones, even junkies, but now only dirty junkies.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Balboa;2959712]Great post!
I'm just back from a 2 week visit. I just walked about Botero during the day and La 70 and Parque Lleras in the evening.
I love Plaza Botero, except when it's raining, LOL.
Befriended lots of girls, takes patience, but I found some very cute, cool girls.
Obviously the majority I don't select, I just chill, walk about, talk with the cool ones, blow off the hard core, and always watch my back.
Parque Lleras is mostly a circus, LOL.
Fun to watch the show tho, for me anyway. Lots of low quality and some hard core hot ones that have been spoiled by the gringo madness, LOL.
My favorite girl of the trip, however, I surprisingly met in Parque Lleras.
I was walking about and she flashed a beautiful smile at me. Pulled her aside to chat. She was nice, but she initially gave me the 1 hour, one hundred dollar blah blah that seems to the norm now that they throw out.
I continued to chat with her a bit, asked for her WhatsApp, explained to her that I don't do the watch the clock, one hour thing, and that we could just meet up the next day and see how it goes together, and that I would take care of her accordingly.
I speak pretty good spanish BTW.
I liked her and I could tell she liked me as well.
After I left her, she would walk back to me from time to time to joke around a bit.
Great sense of humor.
Anyway she came over to my hotel the next day. We chilled, hung out a bit, had fun together.
Ended up about 3 hours together.
I saw her as much as I could fit her in my time, as I was with friends on this trip and was hanging with them as well.
Great trip! Met a couple other ISG guys as well. Nice dudes. No drama.
Like Moonshot says, good fun to be had, whatever your style may be, however, watch your back, always.[/QUOTE]Yes, in this trip most of the evenings were marred by the drizzle.
It was nice fun though just casually hanging out in Veracruz.
Hope we meet again soon when we are back!
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2960278]I've been saying this since 2021.
I knew a girl named Geisis whom I had followed to Medellin from Bogota and she specifically told me that she would work Botero in the day and then go work lleras at night and charge 5 x more to the gringos there.[/QUOTE]I have seen this in Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Ethiopia, Philippines, Dominican Republic. Same girl that is $10 in one place is $50 in another. It happens everywhere that there is mongering, but some guys like to feel they are paying more for getting better. It is usually just because the girl is in a better setting, not that the girls themselves are any better.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2960278]..... she specifically told me that she would work Botero in the day and then go work lleras at night and charge 5 x more to the gringos there......[/QUOTE]I dine at neither locales and I am not doubting that that occurs. Nevertheless I find it rather weird that a girl who has a guy fuck her for $100 would turn around and have another guy (probably rougher and tougher) fuck her for $20. Why work Botero at all when you can get one guy in LLeras who would give you what you have to work five times as hard for in Botero? Its like I'm a bartender and working during the day pays 1/5 of the salary that's paid at night. No way I'm working during the day.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2960355]I dine at neither locales and I am not doubting that that occurs. Nevertheless I find it rather weird that a girl who has a guy fuck her for $100 would turn around and have another guy (probably rougher and tougher) fuck her for $20. Why work Botero at all when you can get one guy in LLeras who would give you what you have to work five times as hard for in Botero? Its like I'm a bartender and working during the day pays 1/5 of the salary that's paid at night. No way I'm working during the day.[/QUOTE]Some work in casas. If attractive they may have 5 to 15 customers per day, and they may get 30 mil per customer after paying the cost of the room. Whereas in Lleras they may show up for a week between payoffs of 300 mil for example. So the casa wins hands down. Some money every day, average is 100 or 150 mil, and not so worried about not having anything for days on end.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2960355]I dine at neither locales and I am not doubting that that occurs. Nevertheless I find it rather weird that a girl who has a guy fuck her for $100 would turn around and have another guy (probably rougher and tougher) fuck her for $20. Why work Botero at all when you can get one guy in Lleras who would give you what you have to work five times as hard for in Botero? Its like I'm a bartender and working during the day pays 1/5 of the salary that's paid at night. No way I'm working during the day.[/QUOTE]Well the way she explained it to me was that in Lleras it was hit and miss whether or not she would get a customer. They may be out there all night til 5 am and not get a customer whereas in Botero / Veracruz she would always get several customers per day. So she would go to Botero first and get at least enough money to cover her daily expenses and money for a taxi incase she needs to get home after the metro stops running then she would head to Lleras in hopes of snagging a gringo customer but she wouldn't always get one. And it was $100 usd back then Lleras was 200 mil and Botero was 40 mil. When with me I was kinda like a medium in between the two I would giver her 100 mil but always demand bareback and I would stay close by in Centro usually off of Oriental by the exito san Antonio so I was like her guaranteed quick cash option but she always knew with me we never used condoms if she wanted that 100 mil. I think only one time I used a condom with her and that was way back in 2018 in Bogota in Santa Fe and I gave her 30 mil plus 6 k for the room so it was a total of 36 mil COP with a condom in a short time room in Santa Fe. The nice thing about Bogota is they don't have these parallel street venues with different pricing all the street venues in Bogota are geared toward the locals and all roughly the same price. You got Santa Fe, la capuchina, 7 de agosto, and primero de mayo and they all roughly charge the same 40 mil or 50 mil plus room nowadays and la capuchina is even cheaper sometimes as low as 20 mil plus room but those ladies are super old like grannies LOL.
All true, and there is the advantage for the girls that they don't have to worry about having no help if they wind up with psycho. Yes, that happens.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2960379]Some work in casas. If attractive they may have 5 to 15 customers per day, and they may get 30 mil per customer after paying the cost of the room. Whereas in Lleras they may show up for a week between payoffs of 300 mil for example. So the casa wins hands down. Some money every day, average is 100 or 150 mil, and not so worried about not having anything for days on end.[/QUOTE]
You are applying the logic of someone with life skills and adequate financial resources, two major advantages that are extremely rare among the providers. These women are in survival mode. Many of them live in rooms rented by the day. A day or two of few or no dates and there belongings are on the sidewalk where they and their kids will have to sleep. You likely know they don't tend to live near Parque Lleras. When you need to put together enough for a meal or a place to stay you aren't going to walk past a place where you can make some money to get on the metro for a chance of a bigger pay day.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2960355]I dine at neither locales and I am not doubting that that occurs. Nevertheless I find it rather weird that a girl who has a guy fuck her for $100 would turn around and have another guy (probably rougher and tougher) fuck her for $20. Why work Botero at all when you can get one guy in LLeras who would give you what you have to work five times as hard for in Botero? Its like I'm a bartender and working during the day pays 1/5 of the salary that's paid at night. No way I'm working during the day.[/QUOTE]
Yesterday I went down to El Centro to check out the streetwalkers in the early afternoon. Maybe it was the drizzle and cloudy skies but there wasn't as many girls as in the past. Still there were a number of girls hanging out. This is my impression of what I saw. 95% or perhaps a little higher were older, chubby, unattractive or average looking. I came back an hour later and it was about the same. That is usually what I see when I visit El Centro. Still you only need one girl and I did see two girls who were above average looking, in that 6/7 range. Nothing special but I would have considered them if I had to take someone. So, I think that you will be able to find at least one girl that you consider decent. But as far as stunners walking around in El Centro, I don't think so.
Now, there is always a lot of talk about girls online or in Park Lleras who also are in El Centro. That may be true for some girls but in all the times that I have visited El Centro, I have never seen a girl who is also online or in Park Lleras. But I understand how many El Centro fanboys want that to be true so they can say that they are paying much less than other guys for the same girls.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2960355]I dine at neither locales and I am not doubting that that occurs. Nevertheless I find it rather weird that a girl who has a guy fuck her for $100 would turn around and have another guy (probably rougher and tougher) fuck her for $20. Why work Botero at all when you can get one guy in LLeras who would give you what you have to work five times as hard for in Botero? [/QUOTE]I thought you had a lot of experience. You should easily be able to think this through in a matter of minutes. Here is my quickie list.
Always a customer at Botero for every body type of girl.
Some girls prefer Botero locals versus Lleras foreigners.
Some have families so can not work nights.
Work days at Botero before it rains late afternoon and sometimes into the night so unable to work at Lleras.
Many girls are not as pretty as they think they are so can not earn the premium price at Lleras.
Girls like to be with their friends so if their friends are working Botero they will work at Botero.
Lleras could mean a higher chance of being seen by someone who knows them versus getting lost in the crowd at Botero.
Lleras is hella far if they are living at the other end of the city. Late at night the only option back home is an expensive taxi.
Botero they can have more "regulars" and build up a relationship than one or two flings per customer in Lleras and no future boyfriend.
I could on and on.
You nailed it. Now, the other side of the coin is we have to consider that it is unsettling to imagine somoebody could be paying 1/10 the cost to nut in the same girl.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2960402]I thought you had a lot of experience. You should easily be able to think this through in a matter of minutes. Here is my quickie list.
Always a customer at Botero for every body type of girl.
Some girls prefer Botero locals versus Lleras foreigners.
Some have families so can not work nights.
Work days at Botero before it rains late afternoon and sometimes into the night so unable to work at Lleras.
Many girls are not as pretty as they think they are so can not earn the premium price at Lleras.
Girls like to be with their friends so if their friends are working Botero they will work at Botero.
Lleras could mean a higher chance of being seen by someone who knows them versus getting lost in the crowd at Botero.
Lleras is hella far if they are living at the other end of the city. Late at night the only option back home is an expensive taxi.
Botero they can have more "regulars" and build up a relationship than one or two flings per customer in Lleras and no future boyfriend.
I could on and on.[/QUOTE]
This has been true since long before the pandemic back when Parque Lleras was an upscale restaurant zone. It was more noticeable then because the place was not overrun with weekend warriors and youtubers. There are guys who prefer to roll as part of a roving pack of frat boys. Lleras is the place to go for that.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2960278]I've been saying this since 2021.
I knew a girl named Geisis whom I had followed to Medellin from Bogota and she specifically told me that she would work Botero in the day and then go work lleras at night and charge 5 x more to the gringos there.
Subsequently over the years I've met many more thru Facebook and in Centro that told me the same thing.
Funny it only took you guys 4 years to notice it LOL.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2960353]I have seen this in Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Ethiopia, Philippines, Dominican Republic. Same girl that is $10 in one place is $50 in another. It happens everywhere that there is mongering, but some guys like to feel they are paying more for getting better. It is usually just because the girl is in a better setting, not that the girls themselves are any better.[/QUOTE]A bottle of water costs around $1 at a grocery store, while the same bottle of water may cost $5 at the airport. When I buy $5 bottle, I totally understand that it is the same bottle that I can buy at the grocery store, but I agree to pay the convenience fee or whatever you call it. Some guys realize that some Lleras girls can be had for much less in El Centro, but agree to pay gringo tax / convenience fee so that they don't have to come to El Centro in the daytime.
I pay premium for the girls I'm seeing, but you won't find my girls working the streets or casas. They are of much better quality looks wise, they don't serve 5-15 dicks a day to make ends meet. I spend a lot of time sourcing them out and vetting them and more often than not, I get what I pay for.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2960401]
Now, there is always a lot of talk about girls online or in Park Lleras who also are in El Centro. That may be true for some girls but in all the times that I have visited El Centro, I have never seen a girl who is also online or in Park Lleras. But I understand how many El Centro fanboys want that to be true so they can say that they are paying much less than other guys for the same girls.[/QUOTE]Haha don't know about being an "El Centro fanboy", LOL.
Though I do enjoy it out there.
There are definitely a number of girls that work both, Lleras and Botero.
I see them, I know them.
I don't know about online, cause I don't do that.
And I don't care about saying how much less I paid. I don't get into the silly how much I paid debates.
It's just fun to me out in el Centro. I almost always find someone that I like and I enjoy the hunt.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2960278]
Funny it only took you guys 4 years to notice it LOL.[/QUOTE]I took me more than 4 years to come back to Medellin, with COVID in the middle, but only 1 night to get that concept. I am a quick learner.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2960284]For someone who doesn't come here so often you know the city very well.[/QUOTE]I have been exploring Medellin first time some 15 years ago. If you search my nick in this thread you'll read some fun stories. I was really brave.
I am a Centro rat and I approve of this message.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2960506]Haha don't know about being an "El Centro fanboy", LOL.
Though I do enjoy it out there.
There are definitely a number of girls that work both, Lleras and Botero.
I see them, I know them.
I don't know about online, cause I don't do that.
And I don't care about saying how much less I paid. I don't get into the silly how much I paid debates.
It's just fun to me out in el Centro. I almost always find someone that I like and I enjoy the hunt.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Balboa;2960506]Haha don't know about being an "El Centro fanboy", LOL.
Though I do enjoy it out there.
There are definitely a number of girls that work both, Lleras and Botero.
I see them, I know them.
I don't know about online, cause I don't do that.
And I don't care about saying how much less I paid. I don't get into the silly how much I paid debates.
It's just fun to me out in el Centro. I almost always find someone that I like and I enjoy the hunt.[/QUOTE]I agree that El Centro can be fun. It is budget friendly and there are always girls around. Most of the girls are unattractive, old or chubby but if you are persistent, you can always find a girl or two that is acceptable. You can see the girls in person and chat with the girls before pulling the trigger. And if it doesn't work out, it is only 50 mil or so. I would recommend the Nutibara Hotel if you are going to spend most of your time in El Centro.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2960384]Well the way she explained it to me was that in Lleras it was hit and miss whether or not she would get a customer. They may be out there all night til 5 am and not get a customer whereas in Botero / Veracruz she would always get several customers per day. So she would go to Botero first and get at least enough money to cover her daily expenses and money for a taxi incase she needs to get home after the metro stops running then she would head to Lleras in hopes of snagging a gringo customer but she wouldn't always get one. And it was $100 usd back then Lleras was 200 mil and Botero was 40 mil. When with me I was kinda like a medium in between the two I would giver her 100 mil but always demand bareback and I would stay close by in Centro usually off of Oriental by the exito san Antonio so I was like her guaranteed quick cash option but she always knew with me we never used condoms if she wanted that 100 mil. I think only one time I used a condom with her and that was way back in 2018 in Bogota in Santa Fe and I gave her 30 mil plus 6 k for the room so it was a total of 36 mil COP with a condom in a short time room in Santa Fe. The nice thing about Bogota is they don't have these parallel street venues with different pricing all the street venues in Bogota are geared toward the locals and all roughly the same price. You got Santa Fe, la capuchina, 7 de agosto, and primero de mayo and they all roughly charge the same 40 mil or 50 mil plus room nowadays and la capuchina is even cheaper sometimes as low as 20 mil plus room but those ladies are super old like grannies LOL.[/QUOTE]Makes sense. It also makes sense that she would not snag anyone in LLeras. Makes no sense that a chica who can readily get clients in LLeras would work Centro.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2960506]Haha don't know about being an "El Centro fanboy", LOL.
Though I do enjoy it out there.
There are definitely a number of girls that work both, Lleras and Botero.
I see them, I know them.
I don't know about online, cause I don't do that.
And I don't care about saying how much less I paid. I don't get into the silly how much I paid debates.
It's just fun to me out in el Centro. I almost always find someone that I like and I enjoy the hunt.[/QUOTE]It does make ones heart smile when one believes that one is banging chicas for one fifth the price that other gringos are paying.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2960620]Makes sense. It also makes sense that she would not snag anyone in LLeras. Makes no sense that a chica who can readily get clients in LLeras would work Centro.[/QUOTE]The key to your statement is "readily get clients" in Lleras. That is the problem for them. Even very good looking chicas can go days without a customer in Lleras, but perhaps get a number at a lower price in another place, for example Centro. Might make sense to do daytime in Centro, get some business, and then go to Lleras later for the big bucks on a hit and miss basis.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2960506]Haha don't know about being an "El Centro fanboy", LOL.
Though I do enjoy it out there.
There are definitely a number of girls that work both, Lleras and Botero.
I see them, I know them.
I don't know about online, cause I don't do that.
And I don't care about saying how much less I paid. I don't get into the silly how much I paid debates.
It's just fun to me out in el Centro. I almost always find someone that I like and I enjoy the hunt.[/QUOTE]Yeah and I like your mindset. But the problem that ego-driven guys, or even Gabacho, want to ignore is that many girls doesn't use both places. Of course, there are people double-dipping, but many girls will personally attest to never wanting to be in Centro. Many girls have attested to dropping Centro work the minute they realized they were good enough to make it in Lleras.
Still, like Gabacho and others, I only have anecdotes from about a tiny slice of girls. Some are workers from Lleras, casas, and even Centro. Some of those girls are no longer in the game and focused more on sugar daddy relationships with expats / married to them. Some of those girls have gotten out of the game once they had enough money to stabilize a career / education. For many WGs, the girls look to transition out of Centro ASAP for a variety of reasons; 1) low pay, high workload 2) more dangerous (or rather different danger types in Lleras vs. Centro) 3) general (perceived) prestige of upscale working 4) higher ROI if you make it in Lleras.
So everybody should just chill out and stfu about whether a girl is working both places or not. You will never know unless you specifically vet every girl, so it's not worth using it to stroke your own ego. But then again, if it makes you feel superior when your Centro girl lies to you that she is working Lleras to stroke your ego, that's all good. We all got to get our nut somehow.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2960638]Your point is fine but you're wrong that it's a scam. A price scam is when you are getting lied to about the value of something. In this case, you are not being scammed because the airport is not telling you that their water is better or worth more than a grocery's water. They aren't telling you that there is no water available outside of the airport or anything like that. They are simply charging more because they have a captive audience / the first point of purchasing for people coming off a flight.[/QUOTE]It has more to do with their rent (overhead in general) being more than them having a captive audience. All the gasoline comes from the same depot in town, but the price you pay is going to depend on which corner you buy it on. Station A may pay much more in rent or property tax than Station be. Therefore Station A will need to sell stuff at a higher price than Station be.
Just like in Amsterdam when I asked a ho in the box why it was so expensive to fuck. She explained to me that she has to pay 250 euro per day just to rent the damn box. So she was not even breaking even until she had gotten 3 customers.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2960662]Yeah and I like your mindset. But the problem that ego-driven guys, or even Gabacho, want to ignore is that many girls doesn't use both places. Of course, there are people double-dipping, but many girls will personally attest to never wanting to be in Centro. Many girls have attested to dropping Centro work the minute they realized they were good enough to make it in Lleras.
Still, like Gabacho and others, I only have anecdotes from about a tiny slice of girls. Some are workers from Lleras, casas, and even Centro. Some of those girls are no longer in the game and focused more on sugar daddy relationships with expats / married to them. Some of those girls have gotten out of the game once they had enough money to stabilize a career / education. For many WGs, the girls look to transition out of Centro ASAP for a variety of reasons; 1) low pay, high workload 2) more dangerous (or rather different danger types in Lleras vs. Centro) 3) general (perceived) prestige of upscale working 4) higher ROI if you make it in Lleras.
So everybody should just chill out and stfu about whether a girl is working both places or not. You will never know unless you specifically vet every girl, so it's not worth using it to stroke your own ego. But then again, if it makes you feel superior when your Centro girl lies to you that she is working Lleras to stroke your ego, that's all good. We all got to get our nut somehow.[/QUOTE]I could care less if she works in Lleras as well as Centro. I just meet them, have fun with them, and if I see them some place else, I say Hi.
What difference does it make?
Of course they don't all do it. Who cares?
I don't understand the fuss. It's just the way it is.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2960621]It does make ones heart smile when one believes that one is banging chicas for one fifth the price that other gringos are paying.[/QUOTE]I could really care less what other guys are paying and never think about it.
I just have my fun, enjoy it all and move on.
Not sure why you're obsessed by it, LOL.
Someone who might be familiar with Colombian law, please don't assume, is it possible to force an unwanted chica out of your apartment, and if she doesn't want to leave, use force to eject her? The intention is not to injure her of course but if suppose I can capture the entire thing on video as police evidence that the girl is trespassing and you've verbally asked her to leave on her own.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2960662]Yeah and I like your mindset. But the problem that ego-driven guys, or even Gabacho, want to ignore is that many girls doesn't use both places. Of course, there are people double-dipping, but many girls will personally attest to never wanting to be in Centro. Many girls have attested to dropping Centro work the minute they realized they were good enough to make it in Lleras.
Still, like Gabacho and others, I only have anecdotes from about a tiny slice of girls. Some are workers from Lleras, casas, and even Centro. Some of those girls are no longer in the game and focused more on sugar daddy relationships with expats / married to them. Some of those girls have gotten out of the game once they had enough money to stabilize a career / education. For many WGs, the girls look to transition out of Centro ASAP for a variety of reasons; 1) low pay, high workload 2) more dangerous (or rather different danger types in Lleras vs. Centro) 3) general (perceived) prestige of upscale working 4) higher ROI if you make it in Lleras.
So everybody should just chill out and stfu about whether a girl is working both places or not. You will never know unless you specifically vet every girl, so it's not worth using it to stroke your own ego. But then again, if it makes you feel superior when your Centro girl lies to you that she is working Lleras to stroke your ego, that's all good. We all got to get our nut somehow.[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with my ego or thinking I'm getting a better deal than you guys. This was just my experience and what girls have told me. You can believe it or not I really don't care.
I've discovered a Mega Super Multiple Terminal Brothel called Classic that would blow your guy's minds and you would never even go back to Medellin again LOL. But that's a story for a different thread.
-Gabacho.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2960408]You nailed it. Now, the other side of the coin is we have to consider that it is unsettling to imagine somoebody could be paying 1/10 the cost to nut in the same girl.[/QUOTE]I am a Centro Rat and only been to Parque Lleras twice and left early like 10:30 pm. I saw a few Centro girls both times. Just MY GUESTIMATE of the percentage of the Centro girls would be less than 10%.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2960622]We think differently and that's fine because that's what being human is about but I never allow myself to think I have been scammed whether it is for $1 or $1000. You do not think that you are being scammed at the airport, I do, and never ever buy anything there.[/QUOTE]My wingman and I frequent a steakhouse near Provenza. We always order a bottle of wine which is about 30 to 40 USD. This wine is from Argentina and it costs around 10 USD more or less in almost all grocery stores in Medellin. The same wine can be found occasionally on the bottom shelf of some grocery stores in Argentina and it costs less than 2. 5 USD which is literally the cheapest wine.
The corkage is about 80 or 90 mil when we were initially told it was 60. The better steakhouse away from Provenza charges only 50 or 60 mil for corkage. You can get better wine in much better restaurant in Argentina or Brazil for that money.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2960638]Your point is fine but you're wrong that it's a scam. A price scam is when you are getting lied to about the value of something. In this case, you are not being scammed because the airport is not telling you that their water is better or worth more than a grocery's water. They aren't telling you that there is no water available outside of the airport or anything like that. They are simply charging more because they have a captive audience / the first point of purchasing for people coming off a flight.
Labeling filtered tap water as pure Fiji spring water is a scam while selling Fiji spring water at twice the price of filtered tap water is not a scam (it might be a scam for a company to produce that water and claim it's better though). It's the same reason buying a $10 hotdog at a baseball game isn't considered a scam, just a rip-off. You're still getting something to eat and it's what you expect, it's just marked up due to audience capture which is annoying.[/QUOTE]This is the upside to capitalism; it's a free market. While capitalism does have some disadvantages, it's a gold mine for patient and intelligent people.
It seems like the real controversy is that by deliberately offering sex workers a higher price, you are then setting a new standard for other customers. Which might be true. But this is another aspect of capitalism; where opportunistic individuals (the girls) utilize shifts in the market. I think what is more likely true is that the girls are changing their sales pitch. There weren't many gringos wandering around Medellin, or quite frankly anywhere in Colombia during the 90's, because it was a bloodbath following the death of Escobar, and foreigners were getting kidnapped left and right. Then after 2010 Americans started popping their heads up all over the place. And what do the girls see? The these guys wandering around with the passports baring the red, white, and blue flag are loaded with cash. "Hell, if they have that much money, we can just ask them for more. " Word starts getting passed around on the street, and girls start noticing all these large, pale skinned guys speaking English everywhere. Now there's a shift, and the 18 year old girls who are just getting started learn the tricks of the trade from their 30 year old sisters who have been in business for awhile. "Try to draw the attention of the white guys, they have much more money than Colombians. ".
I'm not convinced that "reckless" gringos who don't follow The Code / Patron's Handbook are 100% responsible for P2 P prices going up. These girls have at least a rudimentary understanding of supply and demand. And even if they are poorly educated, some of them may have a higher IQ when you look at raw intelligence, and simply choose this lifestyle due to lack of legit economic opportunities. So, the girls can always start asking for a higher rate. But in turn, the guys always have the option to say "No thanks", walk away, and approach the competing girl down the street, or go back to their hotel. If large percentage of men consistently decide to reject the higher prices over a long period of time, business will dry up very quickly, and they will lower their rates. I don't see this happening. I don't think most Americans are disciplined enough to pack their bags, hop on a plane for a few hours, arrive in Colombia, then leave "empty handed" having not gotten laid. What, only to spend several hundred dollars on a flight and lodging a couple of months later hoping you might get a better result? No, it would take a coordinated movement amongst a very large group of men, and I don't think that's likely to happen.
I guess the better question is, why deliberately double your sex worker's salary? Are you just feeling generous today and want to leave a big ol' tip? Or are you afraid you won't get service without offering a higher price? If you just offered 10 or 20% more, that's a huge difference compared to offering 80 or 90% more.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2959621]Only about 20% of them respond to DMs based on my experience, but it's likely because I use a fake profile.[/QUOTE]What do you expect when you use a fake profile. Would you respond to chics that are using fake profiles? Man, some of the things you read on forums. Smh. For Facebook, you need to do things differently. I have over 400 medellin chics on my Facebook page. I started here with chics that peeps world recommend. I then started to request their friends and family. They would respond once they see I was friends with someone they knew. It takes time but you will build up your network that way. I wouldn't even see the hard core chics that these guys posted. I would just befriend them. I prefer the ones that don't have gringo friends. I've met quite a few that have not been with a gringo before and was curious. A few turned out to be a little stalkish, needy and jealous. They told me from the beginning they were not prepagos and didn't have sex for money so I sort of convinced them I was a little serious minded. Well that wasn't a good idea. LOL.
Those of you who aren't trying to learn and speak basic Spanish, these chics will try and play with you. They already think we are stupid for traveling there just to pay for sex when they give it away for free with Colombian dudes. And don't think cause you are paying a lot that they respect you more. It's just the opposite. The more you pay, the dumber they think you are. If you have any Colombian female friends, ask them and see what they say. It's always funny when guys say they pay what they want and they don't care. Chics have said these guys don't know Spanish so it's easy to get more because they don't know how to negotiate because of the language barrier. Smh.
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I totally confirm what you say. In Plaza Botero all the girls fuck bareback! Girls ask 50 mil for fuck but if you want to fuck her bareback you have to pay 50 mil more + 10 mil for the room.
Everyday I go fuck one lady. Most of the ladies are young but most of them are not so sexy but if you have time to search like me, you always find 2 or 3 sexy ladies 18/25.
Most of them are friends and work together and are from Venezuela.
Just an advice, always ask to see the ID because I've the impression now lot of girls who work there are 16 or 17. Never go with a lady under 18. Be careful. Sometimes it's not easy, that's why I always ask to see the ID.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2960384]Well the way she explained it to me was that in Lleras it was hit and miss whether or not she would get a customer. They may be out there all night til 5 am and not get a customer whereas in Botero / Veracruz she would always get several customers per day. So she would go to Botero first and get at least enough money to cover her daily expenses and money for a taxi incase she needs to get home after the metro stops running then she would head to Lleras in hopes of snagging a gringo customer but she wouldn't always get one. And it was $100 usd back then Lleras was 200 mil and Botero was 40 mil. When with me I was kinda like a medium in between the two I would giver her 100 mil but always demand bareback and I would stay close by in Centro usually off of Oriental by the exito san Antonio so I was like her guaranteed quick cash option but she always knew with me we never used condoms if she wanted that 100 mil. I think only one time I used a condom with her and that was way back in 2018 in Bogota in Santa Fe and I gave her 30 mil plus 6 k for the room so it was a total of 36 mil COP with a condom in a short time room in Santa Fe. The nice thing about Bogota is they don't have these parallel street venues with different pricing all the street venues in Bogota are geared toward the locals and all roughly the same price. You got Santa Fe, la capuchina, 7 de agosto, and primero de mayo and they all roughly charge the same 40 mil or 50 mil plus room nowadays and la capuchina is even cheaper sometimes as low as 20 mil plus room but those ladies are super old like grannies LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2960740]I guess the better question is, why deliberately double your sex worker's salary? Are you just feeling generous today and want to leave a big ol' tip? Or are you afraid you won't get service without offering a higher price? If you just offered 10 or 20% more, that's a huge difference compared to offering 80 or 90% more.[/QUOTE]Because they do not know or care what it costs there. They only know it is cheaper than back home.
I personally don't understand why anyone who comes here for a few days at a time and who stays in Poblado would spend the time it takes to navigate Centro when you can walk a few steps to Lleras and point and click your way to a date. A few hundred dollars over a week or two is a drop in the bucket when you think about the up to $2,000 it cost for airline, hotel, and food over a short trip.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2960727]I am a Centro Rat and only been to Parque Lleras twice and left early like 10:30 pm. I saw a few Centro girls both times. Just MY GUESTIMATE of the percentage of the Centro girls would be less than 10%.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2960827]I totally confirm what you say. In Plaza Botero all the girls fuck bareback! Girls ask 50 mil for fuck but if you want to fuck her bareback you have to pay 50 mil more + 10 mil for the room.
Everyday I go fuck one lady. Most of the ladies are young but most of them are not so sexy but if you have time to search like me, you always find 2 or 3 sexy ladies 18/25.
Most of them are friends and work together and are from Venezuela.
Just an advice, always ask to see the ID because I've the impression now lot of girls who work there are 16 or 17. Never go with a lady under 18. Be careful. Sometimes it's not easy, that's why I always ask to see the ID.[/QUOTE]Even checking cedulas is not fool-proof because it is possible that they can have a fake ID. To be extra safe use a hotel that will verify the cedula by checking it against the information registered to that particular cedula number (they have a website for looking it up).
Hotel Botero Real is a good hotel that will verify IDs and make sure that your lady is of legal age before they rent you the room.
And if the girl refuses to go to that hotel and tries to take you to a different hotel like on the backside behind the church, you should view that as a red flag.
-Gabacho.
[QUOTE=MisterJam;2960771]What do you expect when you use a fake profile. Would you respond to chics that are using fake profiles? Man, some of the things you read on forums. Smh. For Facebook, you need to do things differently. I have over 400 medellin chics on my Facebook page. I started here with chics that peeps world recommend. I then started to request their friends and family. They would respond once they see I was friends with someone they knew. It takes time but you will build up your network that way. I wouldn't even see the hard core chics that these guys posted. I would just befriend them. I prefer the ones that don't have gringo friends. I've met quite a few that have not been with a gringo before and was curious. A few turned out to be a little stalkish, needy and jealous. They told me from the beginning they were not prepagos and didn't have sex for money so I sort of convinced them I was a little serious minded. Well that wasn't a good idea. LOL.[/QUOTE]Well some of us are not trying to have prepagos liking / commenting on our real fb profiles, that's the whole point why there are many monger accounts specifically made to network with prepagos from medellin. You may not care, but I do, I'm keeping this hobby private.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2960866]Your explanation is good and well reasoned but this is why I think the airport is a scam: lets say you go to the supermarket and the bottle of water is $1 then you go to a mall and that same bottle is $2, it is understandable because the mall salesperson has to pay rent. The airport salesperson probably has the same rent to pay but charges $5. Why does he do this? Because he knows that you cannot leave the airport to go buy the water somewhere else. That's a scam in my book. I always go the airport well fed and well hydrated and window shop only. The exception would be duty free items that are reasonably priced and that I need, of course.[/QUOTE]Let's just all agree that all airports are scams then. No matter where they are located LOL. Paying friggin $4 for a small a $$ bag of chips, wtf. Lets dump movie theaters in there too.
Man take Colombian women to US not knowing she is already pregnant:
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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2960854]I personally don't understand why anyone who comes here for a few days at a time and who stays in Poblado would spend the time it takes to navigate Centro when you can walk a few steps to Lleras and point and click your way to a date. A few hundred dollars over a week or two is a drop in the bucket when you think about the up to $2,000 it cost for airline, hotel, and food over a short trip.[/QUOTE]You don't understand that because you are paying $2,000 for your airline, hotel and food for a "short trip" and that's not necessary if you're a Centro rat. Enables you to make more trips. Plus even if we did pay $2,000 for those three things, we'd still want to pay reasonable prices for the fourth thing, the fifth thing, etc. That's not sound logic. "I don't understand why people who've already spent a lot of money don't want to spend more money. " That would be somewhat like saying why bother to use public transportation since you already paid a lot for a flight. Hmm maybe you think that way.
However, it's true that a real Centro rat would never stay in Poblado.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2960970]I agree with Turgid, the airport is in fact a scam and guys who say that it isn't a scam and try to explain it using supply and demand, so not understand economics.[/QUOTE]But he mentions that he likes to go to duty free. That is actually where the scam is. At the liquor store near my house in the States, Dominican liquor is cheaper than it is at the duty free in the Dominican Republic. Most people assume things in those shops are a bargain, but if they were to go to a normal supermarket or shop outside of the airport, then they will realize how much things are marked up in duty free.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2960854]I personally don't understand why anyone who comes here for a few days at a time and who stays in Poblado would spend the time it takes to navigate Centro when you can walk a few steps to Lleras and point and click your way to a date. A few hundred dollars over a week or two is a drop in the bucket when you think about the up to $2,000 it cost for airline, hotel, and food over a short trip.[/QUOTE]I'm a casa man but have been to both Centro and Lleras and have sessioned in neither place. I have done street girls in many countries such as Sosua, DR, Geylang, Singapore, Kolkata, India, Barcelona, Spain, NYC, US, ChangPing, China, Thailand, Tijuana, Mexico even Trinidad and possibly others but I have just never been inclined to bed Colombian street walkers in Medellin and Bogota. For me opting for the casas is a no brainer. It is just as cheap, safer and the chicas are hotter. If there were no casas I would go for Lleras. There is a much better choice of girls there.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2960874]Even checking cedulas is not fool-proof because it is possible that they can have a fake ID. To be extra safe use a hotel that will verify the cedula by checking it against the information registered to that particular cedula number (they have a website for looking it up).
Hotel Botero Real is a good hotel that will verify IDs and make sure that your lady is of legal age before they rent you the room.
And if the girl refuses to go to that hotel and tries to take you to a different hotel like on the backside behind the church, you should view that as a red flag.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]The place that I stayed saved me from someone with a fake ID. She said she had a physical Cedula but when she arrived she only had an electronic copy. When the front desk looked at it closely the ID number on the bottom it said 0123456789. I quickly ushered her out the door and had her leave.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2960970]......This is a scam known as price fixing and it is illegal.......[/QUOTE]Because I'm well fueled when I go to the airport I inevitably have to use their toilets. If more people did like me you can bet they would start charging for that too.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2961075] If there were no casas I would go for Lleras. There is a much better choice of girls there.[/QUOTE]I noted that my comments [I]"Parque Lleras is not the upscale place it was used to be! (...) Basically: the same girls that hang out at Veracruz at daytime, move here at night time. The difference is the price LOL! A place to forget and avoid."[/I] triggered a flame of posts and counter-posts.
Now, it may be debatable what is the actual percentage of girls working at Lleras nightime who work also at Veracruz daytime, but what is out of question is that (regrettably) most girls at Llleras are now gross, vulgar, even ugly in part. A gem can be always found digging in the slime, but this is true also for Prado and San Diego. What you write above proved simply not true in my experience. You might have a different experience than me, but certainly not in recent days.
I have been at Lleras around midnight twice one week ago. Two samples have testified me that Lleras is not a place anymore where to find the model-type girls that we were used to see there before COVID. It does not matter if the same individuals move from Veracruz to LLeras or not (well, many do). What matters is that the average / overall outlook and [I]elegance[/I] of girls there is NOT better than at Veracruz. This is out of question. The difference is that they pretend to be escorts, but this does not lead me to pay a premium price. If I don't go to a casa, then I would not go to find a girl at LLeras anymore.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2961087]I noted that my comments [I]"Parque Lleras is not the upscale place it was used to be! (...) Basically: the same girls that hang out at Veracruz at daytime, move here at night time. The difference is the price LOL! A place to forget and avoid."[/I] triggered a flame of posts and counter-posts.
Now, it may be debatable what is the actual percentage of girls working at Lleras nightime who work also at Veracruz daytime, but what is out of question is that (regrettably) most girls at Llleras are now gross, vulgar, even ugly in part. [/QUOTE]I rarely go to Lleras. I might go tonight after a Tyson fight watch party with some friends since the host lives in that area. If what you are saying is true, it wouldn't surprise me. The talent in El Centro has fallen off tremendously compared to pre-c19 and worse compared to further back. If more of those are up in Lleras, it ain't a good look. Should be interesting if we pass through Lleras tonight since I've only been during the day the last couple of years.
I got back to Meddy this week after a month vacation outside of Colombia. There were probably 150-200 people in line waiting to get through immigration when the plane landed and probably 90% were males. The girls have a lot more options now, IMO. Guys are coming down and trickin much bigger sums than they used to, especially with the social media / online mongers. A lot of the good quality doesn't have to work in a casa, nightclub or walk the park anymore.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2961109]I rarely go to Lleras. I might go tonight after a Tyson fight watch party with some friends since the host lives in that area. If what you are saying is true, it wouldn't surprise me. The talent in El Centro has fallen off tremendously compared to pre-c19 and worse compared to further back. If more of those are up in Lleras, it ain't a good look. Should be interesting if we pass through Lleras tonight since I've only been during the day the last couple of years.
I got back to Meddy this week after a month vacation outside of Colombia. There were probably 150-200 people in line waiting to get through immigration when the plane landed and probably 90% were males. The girls have a lot more options now, IMO. Guys are coming down and trickin much bigger sums than they used to, especially with the social media / online mongers. A lot of the good quality doesn't have to work in a casa, nightclub or walk the park anymore.[/QUOTE]Yes, medellin has been ruined by gringos and passport bros. Its a shame, but it happens. Lets hope Trump legalizes prostitution and the passport bros stay home. LOL.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2960874]Even checking cedulas is not fool-proof because it is possible that they can have a fake ID. To be extra safe use a hotel that will verify the cedula by checking it against the information registered to that particular cedula number (they have a website for looking it up).
Hotel Botero Real is a good hotel that will verify IDs and make sure that your lady is of legal age before they rent you the room.
And if the girl refuses to go to that hotel and tries to take you to a different hotel like on the backside behind the church, you should view that as a red flag.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]The problem is that even if ID is real, it might not be theirs. Happens all the time. Girls all look alike on IDs and it is difficult to find out if the person standing in front of you is indeed the person on ID.
Flying tomorrow to MDE for the first time, previous I scheduled my trip from Bogota to Medellin due to climate.
Been readying a lot about casas. I have done my extensive research but not much information of casas.
Not asking where to find Chicas but need few recommends of your favorite casas.
Will be staying in Pablado area.
[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2961172]Been readying a lot about casas. I have done my extensive research but not much information of casas.
[/QUOTE]Your research was not much extensive, if you missed the Medellin List.
If you don't know where to go and how to move, in Medellin you will have no fun, and might find a lot of trouble. Be careful.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2961119]The problem is that even if ID is real, it might not be theirs. Happens all the time. Girls all look alike on IDs and it is difficult to find out if the person standing in front of you is indeed the person on ID.[/QUOTE]Well in that case what is your solution to make sure you are in compliance with the law?
I won't speak for anyone else. I think there is already way more of that on the site than is useful. In my possibly isolated Centro rat case, I honestly don't care what anyone pays. I prefer everyone pay based on informed decisions but that's up to them. I'm not into schadenfreude, so I don't take pleasure in anyone else's disadvantage. What makes my heart smile is an enjoyable bang. At whatever price. Once again, it's only me and everyone's tastes and situations are their own. If I felt like I was having more enjoyable experiences or even more variety by paying the going rate at ostensibly more upscale venues, I would not hesitate to do it. To be honest, every so often I do it just to break the routine. So far, and I've been at this more than a little while, I haven't had the desire to shift gears. I could go the seeking arrangement / facebook / Lleras route exclusively without noticing the financial uplift. I don't do it because I know from practical experience I don't find it more interesting or otherwise more worthwhile. My way is to break up the Centro rat routine with Laureles, LOS Colores, and Centro casas and probably a couple of times a month mileroticos & other online girls.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2960621]It does make ones heart smile when one believes that one is banging chicas for one fifth the price that other gringos are paying.[/QUOTE]
I will go as far as to say Poblado and Provenza were ruined by passport bros. Believe it or not, they really aren't a factor in all but that small area of the city. To be fair, they are a huge factor in that area of the city. It's jarring for somebody like me who is rarely there except for dinner out at a restaurant. Anytime I'm there after 9 PM or so, wow, it's so unlike the pre-pandemic Medellin. They aren't even a big factor in Centro. But I get your point. For many visitors Poblado and Provenza is Medellin and the rest of the city does not exist. I'm OK with it.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2961116]Yes, medellin has been ruined by gringos and passport bros. Its a shame, but it happens. Lets hope Trump legalizes prostitution and the passport bros stay home. LOL.[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective. I'm thinking about convenience. You know what the rush hour traffic is like in Medellin. If you are staying in Laureles or Poblado and you dip your toe in the Centro rat lifestyle, you are going to want to get out of Dodge once the sun goes down. That's the heart of rush hour. It's no fun sitting in an uber in rush hour traffic. If I'm here for one or two weeks of my hard earned vacation time I can't imagine letting any of it fritter away while I'm staring at the back of another car listening to reggaeton on a scratch shitty car radio.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2961005]You don't understand that because you are paying $2,000 for your airline, hotel and food for a "short trip" and that's not necessary if you're a Centro rat. Enables you to make more trips. Plus even if we did pay $2,000 for those three things, we'd still want to pay reasonable prices for the fourth thing, the fifth thing, etc. That's not sound logic. "I don't understand why people who've already spent a lot of money don't want to spend more money. " That would be somewhat like saying why bother to use public transportation since you already paid a lot for a flight. Hmm maybe you think that way.
However, it's true that a real Centro rat would never stay in Poblado.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2960854]I personally don't understand why anyone who comes here for a few days at a time and who stays in Poblado would spend the time it takes to navigate Centro when you can walk a few steps to Lleras and point and click your way to a date. A few hundred dollars over a week or two is a drop in the bucket when you think about the up to $2,000 it cost for airline, hotel, and food over a short trip.[/QUOTE]If you are talking about me personally then you are dead wrong. Shortest Medellin trip I took was my first trip to Colombia in Medellin for one month around 6 years ago and I started my Colombian journey at Centro. Plus, my last trip was 6 months last year with most of that time in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2961005]
However, it's true that a real Centro rat would never stay in Poblado.[/QUOTE]All true Centro rats stay in hotels within 5 blocks of Centro. Real rats eat, sleep, and hunt in Centro.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2961444]Well in that case what is your solution to make sure you are in compliance with the law?[/QUOTE]You post so much but have not learned the foundations needed to build true knowledge. There is and never will be a magic full proof bullet to keep you safe, only different levels of safety. Such as sourcing your girl through a casa, strip club, or massage parlor. They will normally take all the heat from the police and not you. I knew several girls with fake IDs and owns that used their older sisters ID. Easy for the girl to remember all her older sisters information since sisters share just about everything and usually have the same eyes so near impossible to tell the ID does not belong to the younger sister. I learned all my info in the Philippines. Had a police setup done on me and taken to the CIDG (PH FBI) station which was known for setups. Spent 10 hours there before they let me go. I paid nothing because I never touched the girl and I knew my Sht. I should get paid for what I know. I will give you some pointers. First text her you are now staying in a different hotel or apartment nearby and give the fake address and room number. Meet away a block away. Take away their phone so they can not text or call their friend who in turn will call their other friend or family member who is a police officer who is waiting for the call. Tell her she can have it back once you finish and she is outside your place. Walk separately with her in front to avoid stares. If she is behind you she may talk to someone and you would not know it. Never let a lady boy help you find a girl. They are the worst followed by regular guys. Always use girls. Local guys are not your friends! I could go on and on. That was 15 years ago. All the guys I knew at that time had all been set up. I knew a guy who was setup 3 times that I know of. I am in the top 5% who did not pay. So many stories.
It always amazes me about all the idiots that take girls in Centro. It is so damn simple. DO AS THE LOCALS DO! The girl walks to the hotel and the local guy follows her at a distance. But not the foreigner idiots. They want to be seen with the girl almost holding hands with her going to the hotel so everybody knows what is going on. I know it is no secret but you should never announce it.
Gabacho. The safest way to have sex is to sex a grandma. Actually, that is not true either because if she is married that is another can of worms so 'Rosey Palms' is your safest bet.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2961540]If you are talking about me personally then you are dead wrong. Shortest Medellin trip I took was my first trip to Colombia in Medellin for one month around 6 years ago and I started my Colombian journey at Centro. Plus, my last trip was 6 months last year with most of that time in Medellin.
All true Centro rats stay in hotels within 5 blocks of Centro. Real rats eat, sleep, and hunt in Centro.
You post so much but have not learned the foundations needed to build true knowledge. There is and never will be a magic full proof bullet to keep you safe, only different levels of safety. Such as sourcing your girl through a casa, strip club, or massage parlor. They will normally take all the heat from the police and not you. I knew several girls with fake IDs and owns that used their older sisters ID. Easy for the girl to remember all her older sisters information since sisters share just about everything and usually have the same eyes so near impossible to tell the ID does not belong to the younger sister. I learned all my info in the Philippines. Had a police setup done on me and taken to the CIDG (PH FBI) station which was known for setups. Spent 10 hours there before they let me go. I paid nothing because I never touched the girl and I knew my Sht. I should get paid for what I know. I will give you some pointers. First text her you are now staying in a different hotel or apartment nearby and give the fake address and room number. Meet away a block away. Take away their phone so they can not text or call their friend who in turn will call their other friend or family member who is a police officer who is waiting for the call. Tell her she can have it back once you finish and she is outside your place. Walk separately with her in front to avoid stares. If she is behind you she may talk to someone and you would not know it..[/QUOTE]Thank you for chiming in LoveItHere.
The answer I was looking for from MB1 was something along the lines of use a place similar to classic (where I'm at right now as I type this). Obviously if your are inside an establishment the girls who are 18 have to really be 18.
Thanks for your input, however argumentative it might be.
Oh and there's some grannies in Bogota in la capuchina are (calle 18 entre carera 14 and carera 12) LOL.
Gabacho.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2961466]I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective. I'm thinking about convenience. You know what the rush hour traffic is like in Medellin. If you are staying in Laureles or Poblado and you dip your toe in the Centro rat lifestyle, you are going to want to get out of Dodge once the sun goes down. That's the heart of rush hour. It's no fun sitting in an uber in rush hour traffic. If I'm here for one or two weeks of my hard earned vacation time I can't imagine letting any of it fritter away while I'm staring at the back of another car listening to reggaeton on a scratch shitty car radio.[/QUOTE]Take the Metro.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2961119]The problem is that even if ID is real, it might not be theirs. Happens all the time. Girls all look alike on IDs and it is difficult to find out if the person standing in front of you is indeed the person on ID.[/QUOTE]There are no 8's, 9's, or 10's on ID cards. You are seeing the real person, not their filters or alter egos.
[QUOTE=Giz99;2961610]Take the Metro.[/QUOTE]I would (I do) stay in Centro until time comes for getting ready for dinner (8pm). Things get more interesting after dark. Then, walk until San Antonio and hop on the first cab, which will have the way straight to Poblado. This of course applies only to those with enough acquaitance with the area, not naif passport bros.
By the way, I do not consider myself as a "rat", I stay in Poblado / Oviedo, I enjoy the comfort of my 4-star hotel, I go to good restaurants because a need a rewarding dinner (inexpensive in Medellin yet so good), but I have always found my best girls in Centro or in San Diego. And, yes, before COVID I was used to walk around bars there until 2am.
This is 100% my experience. Get out of Poblado and its another world. You can be the only gringo around if you go to certain neighborhoods. I've spent some time in parts of Bello including the nicer shopping malls and I felt like I was in another world than Poblado. But as rice rocket used to say, definitely don't go there as you'll definitely have a horrible time and be killed. But I do think guys need good Spanish and some local contacts to make the most and be safest throughout the city, especially barrios populares. With girls it's the same thing.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2961461]I will go as far as to say Poblado and Provenza were ruined by passport bros. Believe it or not, they really aren't a factor in all but that small area of the city. To be fair, they are a huge factor in that area of the city. It's jarring for somebody like me who is rarely there except for dinner out at a restaurant. Anytime I'm there after 9 PM or so, wow, it's so unlike the pre-pandemic Medellin. They aren't even a big factor in Centro. But I get your point. For many visitors Poblado and Provenza is Medellin and the rest of the city does not exist. I'm OK with it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2961602]
Oh and there's some grannies in Bogota in la capuchina are (calle 18 entre carera 14 and carera 12) LOL.
Gabacho.[/QUOTE]I personally haven't crossed this line yet, BUT there are women here in Colombia who are "grannies" who are barely past 30 years old.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2961444]Well in that case what is your solution to make sure you are in compliance with the law?[/QUOTE]I don't think you will ever get convicted if you can show proof of you doing your due diligence. Ask a girl about her age on WhatsApp and save / screenshot her response. Also ask for a picture of her ID and save / screenshot it as well. Or ask to check it in person and take a pic.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2961466]I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective. I'm thinking about convenience. You know what the rush hour traffic is like in Medellin. If you are staying in Laureles or Poblado and you dip your toe in the Centro rat lifestyle, you are going to want to get out of Dodge once the sun goes down. That's the heart of rush hour. It's no fun sitting in an uber in rush hour traffic. If I'm here for one or two weeks of my hard earned vacation time I can't imagine letting any of it fritter away while I'm staring at the back of another car listening to reggaeton on a scratch shitty car radio.[/QUOTE]Traffic in Medellin has always been bad, but it's gotten ridiculously worse. Then there is always the wild card. Case in point, last night I was leaving a party and the other side of the street was backed up a block and a half. I asked the Uber driver what was going on and he told me Saturday night sobriety check. He said they know just about everyone leaving La 70 has been drinking.
Leaving San Diego last week and saw my Uber wasn't moving. I walked up the block and saw that the yellow cabs were protesting the platforms and had traffic at a virtual halt.
It's always something besides the usual traffic, accidents and rush hour grind. Mongering can definitely be hampered, if you have to commute.
I don't know you personally so I have no basis to talk about you. When it comes to Centro rats, the shoe fits and I wear it. I don't however stay in hotels in Medellin. I agree with you that it is better to move discreetly.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2961540]If you are talking about me personally then you are dead wrong. Shortest Medellin trip I took was my first trip to Colombia in Medellin for one month around 6 years ago and I started my Colombian journey at Centro. Plus, my last trip was 6 months last year with most of that time in Medellin.
All true Centro rats stay in hotels within 5 blocks of Centro. Real rats eat, sleep, and hunt in Centro.
You post so much but have not learned the foundations needed to build true knowledge. There is and never will be a magic full proof bullet to keep you safe, only different levels of safety. Such as sourcing your girl through a casa, strip club, or massage parlor. They will normally take all the heat from the police and not you. I knew several girls with fake IDs and owns that used their older sisters ID. Easy for the girl to remember all her older sisters information since sisters share just about everything and usually have the same eyes so near impossible to tell the ID does not belong to the younger sister. I learned all my info in the Philippines. Had a police setup done on me and taken to the CIDG (PH FBI) station which was known for setups. Spent 10 hours there before they let me go. I paid nothing because I never touched the girl and I knew my Sht. I should get paid for what I know. I will give you some pointers. First text her you are now staying in a different hotel or apartment nearby and give the fake address and room number. Meet away a block away. Take away their phone so they can not text or call their friend who in turn will call their other friend or family member who is a police officer who is waiting for the call. Tell her she can have it back once you finish and she is outside your place. Walk separately with her in front to avoid stares. If she is behind you she may talk to someone and you would not know it. Never let a lady boy help you find a girl..[/QUOTE]
I think that is good advice. It saves a lot of time at rush hour.
[QUOTE=Giz99;2961610]Take the Metro.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2961887]I think that is good advice. It saves a lot of time at rush hour.[/QUOTE]Got to be careful with the Metro as well because depending on the location and the time, it can get very backed up, crowded and uncomfortable. Especially, Industriales where the line is long to get into the station at certain times.
[QUOTE=Giz99;2961610]Take the Metro.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, when time's an issue, it's the truth around peak hours, as convenient as cab service is the metro is the way to go sometimes. Of couse, that depends on which your way your traveling. If your going to poblado from el centro usually there's plenty of room, but if your headed to el centro during those hours your lucky to fit on the train and don't get stuck or crushed in the middle, you might not be able squeeze out at your destination. Unless you can fly, there's no perfect transportation method. I stay both in el centro and poblado and due to the travel back and forth, I have to remind myself why I'm here (and it's not the Gastronomy ). So, I basically like to stay where the action is.
I am loving my first trip here, staying in Poblado area with really cool airbnb.
Picked few 2 girls from the park, but I am mostly meeting girls From Milerotics.
Most of them Located in Lureles, some are casas some are independent.
Prices from 80 mil to 120 mil and some asking 150 mil.
Park is most expensive due to Americao tourist, quoting prices in USD. I generally skip them.
Milerotira is very easy and I am loving it. Also Uber Moto is great, love using that. Anyone want to grab a beer hola at me.
[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2961948]Unless you can fly, there's no perfect transportation method. I stay both in el centro and poblado and due to the travel back and forth, I have to remind myself why I'm here (and it's not the Gastronomy ). So, I basically like to stay where the action is.[/QUOTE]Motorbike taxi is pretty close to flying. Download apps like Picap also Didi has Didi Moto, someone just mentioned Uber has a moto option too now. Hop on a moto and cut thru the traffic.
-Gabacho.
Hi all,
Heading down to Medellin early December for a week.
I saw you mention Milertoicos. Is that just a forum / advertisement site? Is there anything about that site that is more verifiable / safer / trustworthy then casas or SW at parque lleras?
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2961461]I will go as far as to say Poblado and Provenza were ruined by passport bros. [/QUOTE]This is why I do not hang out in Poblado, Provenza, Parque Lleras or any heavily Gringo populated areas in Colombia. When I'm ever in the Medellin area, I prefer Laureles, Belen, Envigado, Sabaneta, Itagui and Centro areas. I don't frequent Medellin like I use to but now I am exploring off the beaten path.
Moto travel is absolutely the fastest way to get through traffic. It is also, according to very clear statistics, by far the riskiest mode of travel. Motos are involved in north of 90% of all traffic accidents in Medellin. There are ghoulish Telegram channels devoted to moto accidents. The government created a public campaign for road safety based around a cartoon character that is characteristically risky moto driver. The latest tag line is "I did not buy a moto to drive slowly."
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2962003]Motorbike taxi is pretty close to flying. Download apps like Picap also Didi has Didi Moto, someone just mentioned Uber has a moto option too now. Hop on a moto and cut thru the traffic..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BizGuy;2962015]Hi all,
Heading down to Medellin early December for a week.
I saw you mention Milertoicos. Is that just a forum / advertisement site? Is there anything about that site that is more verifiable / safer / trustworthy then casas or SW at parque lleras?[/QUOTE]I've been using ME for 8 yrs now with no complaints. It is an advertisement site for the Paisas to let you know they are available. You can see a few of their pics and some have videos.
Highly recommended.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2961461]I will go as far as to say Poblado and Provenza were ruined by passport bros. [/QUOTE]Has there ever been anything or any place that they have not ruined?
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2962102]Has there ever been anything or any place that they have not ruined?[/QUOTE]With your statement it's evident that you do not get out or get around. You need to get out of Gringo Land because it's influencing your overall perception of what the reality is in Colombia. The Passport Bros and Gringos have little to NO AFFECT on the country as a whole. If you think that it's all about Medellin, Cartagena, Cali, Bogota, Barranquilla then your mistaken. Get out and see Colombia and not be sheep that follows the crowd and the places that Gringos / Tourist go.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2962102]Has there ever been anything or any place that they have not ruined?[/QUOTE]I may have read too much into this statement. My bad. The Passport Bros are definitely doing damage wherever they go. It's a documented fact. Thanks for your input.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2962143]With your statement it's evident that you do not get out or get around. You need to get out of Gringo Land because it's influencing your overall perception of what the reality is in Colombia. The Passport Bros and Gringos have little to NO AFFECT on the country as a whole. If you think that it's all about Medellin, Cartagena, Cali, Bogota, Barranquilla then your mistaken. Get out and see Colombia and not be sheep that follows the crowd and the places that Gringos / Tourist go.[/QUOTE]No affect huh? Here are some "no affects" in just Medellin. Getting outside the big cities to find girl fun requires more than a 2 week vacation. I like "numbers" and can not do that outside the bigger cities. Off the beaten path is for guys with more time than just a simple vacation and ones seeking GFE. Girls in the small towns learn what is being paid in the larger cities. That info trickles down quickly. You can always find a diamond for cheap in the small towns but that takes a lot of work and lies if you plan on just pumping and dumping. That in turn can put a guy in physical danger by the friends and family.
Housing costs rising so fast in Medellin from tourism causing locals to limit short time rentals like air bnb.
[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-09-13/tourism-remote-workers-in-medellin-spark-local-tensions[/URL]
Interpol is opening an office in Medellin. You think that is because of the locals or just maybe possibly the foreigners?
[URL]https://colombiaone.com/2024/07/17/interpol-opens-office-in-medellin-to-combat-sexual-exploitation/[/URL]
International tourism surpassed pre-pandemic levels by 29.1%.
[URL]https://travelnoire.com/colombia-tourist-industry[/URL]
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2962143]With your statement it's evident that you do not get out or get around. You need to get out of Gringo Land because it's influencing your overall perception of what the reality is in Colombia. The Passport Bros and Gringos have little to NO AFFECT on the country as a whole. If you think that it's all about Medellin, Cartagena, Cali, Bogota, Barranquilla then your mistaken. Get out and see Colombia and not be sheep that follows the crowd and the places that Gringos / Tourist go.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I never saw any gringos in Villavicencio. That was a cool trip when I went there in Feb 2023. Highly recommend the street fruit hanging around parque el hacha.
-Gabacho.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2962062]Moto travel is absolutely the fastest way to get through traffic. It is also, according to very clear statistics, by far the riskiest mode of travel. Motos are involved in north of 90% of all traffic accidents in Medellin. There are ghoulish Telegram channels devoted to moto accidents. The government created a public campaign for road safety based around a cartoon character that is characteristically risky moto driver. The latest tag line is "I did not buy a moto to drive slowly."[/QUOTE]Me last night riding as a passenger on a moto thru Jakarta, Indonesia not wearing a helmet, holding onto the seat handle with just my left hand, while holding my phone in my right hand to record the video I took these screenshots from, and I didn't get injured or killed in any way.
Sometimes you need to just not worry about shit and enjoy your life.
-Gabacho.
Picked up really cute Venezvelan. Initially she Quoted me 450 COP.
It was close to 4 am, I said 100 COP she made a funny face then I offered 150 COP.
She said yes, I made her clear I want boyfriend treatment not just a session, she smiled.
Walking down holding hands, she was a head turner, I guess due to unavailability of gringos I just got lucky.
When got into my apartment, we both did oral hygiene, she kissed me like no tomorrow, but wouldn't suck me without condom.
I am OK with that, since she kisses me passionately, I let it slide.
Asked money before hand, I said no. But sat the money of tablet and she was fine.
Great session, very happy and off to bed.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2962259]Me last night riding as a passenger on a moto thru Jakarta, Indonesia not wearing a helmet, holding onto the seat handle with just my left hand, while holding my phone in my right hand to record the video I took these screenshots from, and I didn't get injured or killed in any way.
Sometimes you need to just not worry about shit and enjoy your life. -Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Here is a picture of a 19 year old girl I wanted to meet with again on November 5 when I had returned to the Philippines. Meet her 2 months earlier and wanted her again but she broke her foot and pretty sure her ankle the way they her leg braced from a motorcycle accident.
Sometimes you just have to have your head screwed on correctly and still be able to enjoy your life.
[QUOTE=Giz99;2961077]The place that I stayed saved me from someone with a fake ID. She said she had a physical Cedula but when she arrived she only had an electronic copy. When the front desk looked at it closely the ID number on the bottom it said 0123456789.[/QUOTE]I know a shop in Centro where I can buy one for COP 40 k. If it had that number on the bottom, I would ask for my money back. If the police will not support you in the case of a fake ID, then I think its a waste of time to bother to check an ID. There are many other options to prevent worry.
[QUOTE=Giz99;2961610]Take the Metro.[/QUOTE]Buses are also pretty quick since the bus lanes are protected from other traffic.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2961629]There are no 8's, 9's, or 10's on ID cards. You are seeing the real person, not their filters or alter egos.[/QUOTE]Haha, that is sooo true. Many times I have looked at an ID and wondered who this person is?
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2962143]With your statement it's evident that you do not get out or get around. You need to get out of Gringo Land because it's influencing your overall perception of what the reality is in Colombia. The Passport Bros and Gringos have little to NO AFFECT on the country as a whole. If you think that it's all about Medellin, Cartagena, Cali, Bogota, Barranquilla then your mistaken. Get out and see Colombia and not be sheep that follows the crowd and the places that Gringos / Tourist go.[/QUOTE]I would love to do that, but it's very difficult to determine what areas are safe and desirable.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2962410]Here is a picture of a 19 year old girl I wanted to meet with again on November 5 when I had returned to the Philippines. Meet her 2 months earlier and wanted her again but she broke her foot and pretty sure her ankle the way they her leg braced from a motorcycle accident.
Sometimes you just have to have your head screwed on correctly and still be able to enjoy your life.[/QUOTE]So now you're trying to convince me not to use motorbikes because your girlfriend had an accident?? LOL.
Alot of people catch gonorrea, chlamydia, and even HIV from barebacking. Should I stop doing that too?
You are too funny man, LoveItHere.
Is there anything else I should not do?
Let's see, you want me to lie to people about Botero so they won't come. To not report that Philippine Street food is actually pretty good, Lie to people about my airbnb and say it is bad when I think it is good, and not ride motorbikes because some idiot's girlfriend had an accident?
What else will you come up with to add to that list?
-Gabacho.
I received an email today informing me my booking for Nov. 25 to Dec. 10 at Hotel M can not be honored as the house has been sold and must be vacated. It also said that the business will be moving to M2 but not until Jan. 1. So, my two weeks in Medellin may just convert to two weeks in Pattaya, Thailand instead. Too bad, as I liked the atmosphere. I have done Thailand solo many times, but relied on the networking with other guests at Hotel M for my Colombian adventures.
[QUOTE=OmahaGreg;2962524]I received an email today informing me my booking for Nov. 25 to Dec. 10 at Hotel M can not be honored as the house has been sold and must be vacated. It also said that the business will be moving to M2 but not until Jan. 1. So, my two weeks in Medellin may just convert to two weeks in Pattaya, Thailand instead. Too bad, as I liked the atmosphere. I have done Thailand solo many times, but relied on the networking with other guests at Hotel M for my Colombian adventures.[/QUOTE]Have you thought about Hotel Taormina in Costa Rica? Similar shoot fish in a barrel set up, similar networking with other guests, hella lot closer than Pattaya. Just a suggestion.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2962480]
Alot of people catch gonorrea, chlamydia, and even HIV from barebacking. Should I stop doing that too?
[/QUOTE]And Herpes. Guess it depends on who you are barebacking and how important the risks are to you.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2962595]And Herpes. Guess it depends on who you are barebacking and how important the risks are to you.[/QUOTE]Herpes ain't shit bro, I've had it for years now.
Valacyclovir taken at the first tingling literally stops it dead in it's tracks before it even starts. And flare ups are like 3 times per year if that. I'd rather enjoy my sex life than have plastic sex because I'm scared to live my life. More people died from Covid-19 than ever died from herpes. And fuck wearing a mask too for that matter.
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Gabacho.
[QUOTE=OmahaGreg;2962524]I received an email today informing me my booking for Nov. 25 to Dec. 10 at Hotel M can not be honored as the house has been sold and must be vacated. It also said that the business will be moving to M2 but not until Jan. 1. So, my two weeks in Medellin may just convert to two weeks in Pattaya, Thailand instead. Too bad, as I liked the atmosphere. I have done Thailand solo many times, but relied on the networking with other guests at Hotel M for my Colombian adventures.[/QUOTE]Damn, I'm scheduled Nov 30-Dec 7 & haven't heard anything yet. I just emailed them.
[QUOTE=OmahaGreg;2962524]I received an email today informing me my booking for Nov. 25 to Dec. 10 at Hotel M can not be honored as the house has been sold and must be vacated. It also said that the business will be moving to M2 but not until Jan. 1.[/QUOTE]I hope they do not move those raggedy-assed towels to M2 also. That Mansion has really been run into the ground long ago. Neglected and milking us gringos for all they can get and putting nothing back into repairs or maintenance. I had to wait 2 hours for someone to fix the safe in my room. Nobody seems to care much there. Bye.
I just heard back from the Mansion and they cancelled my reservation. It is officially closing November 28. I have a friend there now & he must vacate by that date. All I have is the great memories there.
[QUOTE=OmahaGreg;2962524]I received an email today informing me my booking for Nov. 25 to Dec. 10 at Hotel M can not be honored as the house has been sold and must be vacated. It also said that the business will be moving to M2 but not until Jan. 1. So, my two weeks in Medellin may just convert to two weeks in Pattaya, Thailand instead. Too bad, as I liked the atmosphere. I have done Thailand solo many times, but relied on the networking with other guests at Hotel M for my Colombian adventures.[/QUOTE]If the business is moving to M2, what's happening with Greg? Maybe I missed some news, but apparently he was living there and didn't want to be bothered.
My reservation was cancelled as the "house has been sold. ".
Newbie question here: Are there any other places / hotels like Hotel M. With working girls onsite? Very first time and I would prefer not to walk to streets (so to speak). Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2962586]Have you thought about Hotel Taormina in Costa Rica? Similar shoot fish in a barrel set up, similar networking with other guests, hella lot closer than Pattaya. Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]I did not know about it. I will research. I was to be going for dental work at a clinic in Medellin. I could stay for my appointments then fly to Costa Rica for the rest of my trip. That's an idea I really had not considered. I will look into it.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude] Damn, I'm scheduled Nov 30-Dec 7 & haven't heard anything yet. I just emailed them.[/QUOTE]Too bad, as it seems our days there would have been about the same time, and my hunch is you are from close to where I am.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2962599]Herpes ain't shit bro, I've had it for years now.
Valacyclovir taken at the first tingling literally stops it dead in it's tracks before it even starts. And flare ups are like 3 times per year if that. I'd rather enjoy my sex life than have plastic sex because I'm scared to live my life. More people died from Covid-19 than ever died from herpes. And fuck wearing a mask too for that matter.
Gabacho.[/QUOTE]It's your life, bro. Only you know what truly makes you happy.
[QUOTE=Combo;2962662]If the business is moving to M2, what's happening with Greg? Maybe I missed some news, but apparently he was living there and didn't want to be bothered.[/QUOTE]I heard Greg is leaving / has left M2. Reason for delay they have repairs to rooms to do. No bar though. Now people there have to vacate M1 by 11/25. I just booked at nearby Novelty Suites.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2962696]I heard Greg is leaving / has left M2. Reason for delay they have repairs to rooms to do. No bar though. Now people there have to vacate M1 by 11/25. I just booked at nearby Novelty Suites.[/QUOTE]No bar? Sounds like M1 and M2 (La Mansion and El Castillo) before they opened the bar in 2012. Of course the pool was pretty much wide-open in those days, which I doubt will be the case at M2 going forward.
It seems that area on the bottom floor of M2 would be suitable for a bar setup, though I don't think the neighbors would put up with loud music.
Any updates on Greg's health (that you can say here)?
[QUOTE=OmahaGreg;2962524]I received an email today informing me my booking for Nov. 25 to Dec. 10 at Hotel M can not be honored as the house has been sold and must be vacated. It also said that the business will be moving to M2 but not until Jan. 1. So, my two weeks in Medellin may just convert to two weeks in Pattaya, Thailand instead. Too bad, as I liked the atmosphere. I have done Thailand solo many times, but relied on the networking with other guests at Hotel M for my Colombian adventures.[/QUOTE]What are they moving, the crummy, overpriced hotel? If the hotel is closing then the bar is also closing so why would anybody stay there is beyond me!
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2962657]I just heard back from the Mansion and they cancelled my reservation. It is officially closing November 28. I have a friend there now & he must vacate by that date. All I have is the great memories there.[/QUOTE]Bummer. I also just received an email from them saying my reservation for Dec 31 - Jan 4 has been cancelled. I asked what about the 1-night deposit for 410,000 COP that I already paid them. I hope they refund my money but would not be surprised if I don't get it back. I wonder if the bar next door is also closed for good. Oh well, it was a good run at the mansion.
I'm still going to Medellin though because I'm staying at San Peter Suites from Dec 26-31. Now I just need to find another place to stay. Any suggestion? Or maybe I'll just extend my stay at San Peter then LOL.
[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2962707]Bummer. I also just received an email from them saying my reservation for Dec 31 - Jan 4 has been cancelled. I asked what about the 1-night deposit for 410,000 COP that I already paid them. I hope they refund my money but would not be surprised if I don't get it back. I wonder if the bar next door is also closed for good. Oh well, it was a good run at the mansion.
I'm still going to Medellin though because I'm staying at San Peter Suites from Dec 26-31. Now I just need to find another place to stay. Any suggestion? Or maybe I'll just extend my stay at San Peter then LOL.[/QUOTE]Sounds like M2 may be ready for you by those dates.
Hi all,
Been reading back through this and its fascinating to see the price discrepancy for Street play.
What about Casas? I've seen the reports and the posted stats of 100 - 150 K COP for an hour at a casa (like New Life for example). I've also seen a few reports saying there was upcharge for some service (BBBJ or DATY in one report).
What's the service like in casas and how does it work as in relation to your base fee? Or is it 'every girl is different'?
For example in Germany FKK there's a common standard that's like for 100 euros you get 30 minutes, covered sex, BBBJ, no kissing or DATY.
I'm trying to determine if I want to focus on casas or bringing back to my hotel. If a Casa costs me 300 K with all the upcharge, maybe its better to just shoot for 300 K right away in Parque lleras or something.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=GoFourIt;2962438]I would love to do that, but it's very difficult to determine what areas are safe and desirable.[/QUOTE]It's not difficult. Just do some research. Works every time.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2962599]Herpes ain't shit bro, I've had it for years now........[/QUOTE]You can get herpes even if you wear a condom. If you've had multiple sex partners chances are you have it. Practically everyone on this board has herpes. It can stay latent and most people don't know they have it.
Barebacking is a personal choice. Unlike other personal choices like what color socks you wear, it affects other people. I see it as a form of Darwinian natural selection.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2962586]Have you thought about Hotel Taormina in Costa Rica? Similar shoot fish in a barrel set up, similar networking with other guests, hella lot closer than Pattaya. Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2962843]You can get herpes even if you wear a condom. If you've had multiple sex partners chances are you have it. Practically everyone on this board has herpes. It can stay latent and most people don't know they have it.[/QUOTE]Certainly an extremely high % of those who regularly screw hookers BB have Herpes (as well as HPV). And even if they don't have symptoms, they are contagious (albeit less so than if they are symptomatic ).
[QUOTE=Combo;2962913]Certainly an extremely high % of those who regularly screw hookers BB have Herpes (as well as HPV). And even if they don't have symptoms, they are contagious (albeit less so than if they are symptomatic ).[/QUOTE]Addendum to my previous post which I should have stated. The use of a condom significantly reduces the chances of getting herpes.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2962641]I hope they do not move those raggedy-assed towels to M2 also. That Mansion has really been run into the ground long ago. Neglected and milking us gringos for all they can get and putting nothing back into repairs or maintenance. I had to wait 2 hours for someone to fix the safe in my room. Nobody seems to care much there. Bye.[/QUOTE]Here we go with the towels again hahahaha. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, buh bye.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2962586]Have you thought about Hotel Taormina in Costa Rica? Similar shoot fish in a barrel set up, similar networking with other guests, hella lot closer than Pattaya. Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]Can you shed some light on this hotel? It was called another name (I have forgotten) back in the days. What is happening now? Freelancers hanging out? I thought all was dead in SJO. Send me a PM if you prefer.
[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2963077]Can you shed some light on this hotel? It was called another name (I have forgotten) back in the days. What is happening now? Freelancers hanging out? I thought all was dead in SJO. Send me a PM if you prefer.[/QUOTE]Look on the CR thread. Sportsman's Lodge and Taormina are decent hotels stocked with hookers. Taormina is more lively and Sportsman's is more chill. Both are orders of magnitude better than that piece of shit pervert house in MDE.
Hey everyone, I'm thinking of going to Bogota for the first time next month. I've been to Medellin many times but not Bogota. Just wondering if there is a safe area there similar to Parque Lleras in Medellin, and a hotel similar to the Mansion. Also, any suggestion for a hotel or apartment in a safe area that is chica friendly? Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2963077]Can you shed some light on this hotel? It was called another name (I have forgotten) back in the days. What is happening now? Freelancers hanging out? I thought all was dead in SJO. Send me a PM if you prefer.[/QUOTE]Taormina is the main mongering place in San Jose Costa Rica. The chicas hang out there and you just take your pick. I go every year for Halloween. I love it there because it's safe and you don't have to go anywhere but up to your room. The chica fee is $15 per person each time. Average price is $100 USD but a lot of girls will try to ask for $150 or $200. It's up to you to negotiate. They also give you free breakfast.
The other place you're thinking about is the Del Rey. It's gone out of business and closed for good.
[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2963129]Hey everyone, I'm thinking of going to Bogota for the first time next month. I've been to Medellin many times but not Bogota. Just wondering if there is a safe area there similar to Parque Lleras in Medellin, and a hotel similar to the Mansion. Also, any suggestion for a hotel or apartment in a safe area that is chica friendly? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Zona T is the most similar to Lleras as in its upscale there is a lot of bars. But its more cosmopolitan there mostly cause the weather you are always wearing a coat or have an umbrella. As far as Mansoin style setup not really however Bogota is HUGE so there are plenty of hotels to rest at. Bogota has lots and lots of casa and types so its best to be centreally located. While Usaquen Is nicer I would suggest Chapinero Alto, you are close enough to go to the action in Santa Fe but not too north to be in traffic for 45 min.
[QUOTE=Combo;2962913]... (as well as HPV). And even if they don't have symptoms, they are contagious (albeit less so than if they are symptomatic ).[/QUOTE]Gardasil 9 buddy, all 3 doses.
[QUOTE=BizGuy;2962745]..
What about Casas? I've seen the reports and the posted stats of 100 - 150 K COP for an hour at a casa (like New Life for example). I've also seen a few reports saying there was upcharge for some service (BBBJ or DATY in one report).[/QUOTE]Upcharge is common and you should expect it. The norm probably is no more than 50 mil, 30 mil has been reported as common on ISG. Use this info to negotiate your own. I think you read a poster who does not negotiate for his own reason. You can't use the non-negotiated price as reference point.
What is the process like for Milertoicos?
I see alot of ads mentioning prepaid.
[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2961970]I am loving my first trip here, staying in Poblado area with really cool airbnb.
Picked few 2 girls from the park, but I am mostly meeting girls From Milerotics.
Most of them Located in Lureles, some are casas some are independent.
Prices from 80 mil to 120 mil and some asking 150 mil.
Park is most expensive due to Americao tourist, quoting prices in USD. I generally skip them.
Milerotira is very easy and I am loving it. Also Uber Moto is great, love using that. Anyone want to grab a beer hola at me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BizGuy;2963587]What is the process like for Milertoicos?
I see alot of ads mentioning prepaid.[/QUOTE]Prepago means hooker in Colombian slang.
Thank you. That makes 1000% more sense!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2963673]Prepago means hooker in Colombian slang.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2963145]Gardasil 9 buddy, all 3 doses.[/QUOTE]Indicated up to 26 yo, totally ineffective for elders and for all those who have already been in contact with the types of virus included in it. In other words, totally ineffective for the average ISG member.
Milertoicos. Milerotics. Milerotira. Milerotocos.
Wait for more LOL
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2961116]Yes, medellin has been ruined by gringos and passport bros. Its a shame, but it happens. Lets hope Trump legalizes prostitution and the passport bros stay home. LOL.[/QUOTE]Interesting that people are saying this. So where has the go-to location shiifted to? Is it a different country or City?
Had anyone ever used this service? Seems a bit spendy compared to what is available. But it is all taken care of, which is pretty convenient. But it seems like I can get a REAL nice hotel for $200/ night and then shouldn't have any problem finding an overnight visitor for that price.
[QUOTE=Gymrat9;2963750]Interesting that people are saying this. So where has the go-to location shiifted to? Is it a different country or City?[/QUOTE]Every location on the planet is worse than it was 10 years ago. All locations on the planet will be even worse 10 years from now. More guys travelling. More information on the internet to find girls. Guys getting tired of the man hating females in their countries so going abroad. Poor countries now have money because globalization so more competition. 15 years ago there were basically no Koreans, Chinese, or Indians in Asia hunting, but there are so many. Marriage is a statistical joke so it is better to go have fun with as many women as possible without the chance of "he raped me!" being said years and decades later from western women.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2963746]Indicated up to 26 yo, totally ineffective for elders and for all those who have already been in contact with the types of virus included in it. In other words, totally ineffective for the average ISG member.[/QUOTE]Up To 45 years old male and female and protects against 9 different serotypes of HPV including the ones responsible for 95% of genital warts and most cancers.
[URL]https://www.mskcc.org/news/think-you-re-too-old-get-hpv-vaccine-prevent-cancer-maybe-not[/URL]
After posting this, realized it probably should have been in "Stupid Shit in Medellin".
[QUOTE=LR123;2963879]Had anyone ever used this service? Seems a bit spendy compared to what is available. But it is all taken care of, which is pretty convenient. But it seems like I can get a REAL nice hotel for $200/ night and then shouldn't have any problem finding an overnight visitor for that price.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BizGuy;2963587]What is the process like for Milertoicos?
I see alot of ads mentioning prepaid.[/QUOTE]Usually the add will list all the qualities, qualifications like trained massage therapist and all the incredible things their going to do and how their going to make you feel. And of course the pictures say a thousand words or more like lies depending on your taste or luck. When you first try to contact them through usually WhatsApp or text you're lucky if you get a response within a few hours or even that day, unless of course it's set up like casa with multiple girls then you get usually a prompt response. The response will likely include "bb" or "amor". When you finally make it to their casa (usually it's in Laureles) you may either be to time invested to turn back or blind to the fact that you just been hustled with photo and ad. Either way it's a gamble. There's nothing like viewing the actual product in person. The best way to go about it is schedule several appointments if you don't like what you see (especially if you get a vibe of a nasty shitty attitude which can cancel out looks of any sorts) walked right out with out paying a dime and go to the next one. This way you'll avoid any buyer remorse. This is of course IMHO. Good luck.
Hello fellow Mongers I will be venturing in to Medellin soon and wanted to find out from the experts a few lodging suggestions within the Poblado area?
Also is Uber an easy use at Medellin? Or is there any other ride app I need to download?
Thank you in advance.
[QUOTE=Krilimag;2964395]Hello fellow Mongers I will be venturing in to Medellin soon and wanted to find out from the experts a few lodging suggestions within the Poblado area?
Also is Uber an easy use at Medellin? Or is there any other ride app I need to download?
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]You can use Uber but I prefer to use Cabify, cheaper and more avaiaibvle.
[QUOTE=LR123;2963879]Had anyone ever used this service? Seems a bit spendy compared to what is available. But it is all taken care of, which is pretty convenient. But it seems like I can get a REAL nice hotel for $200/ night and then shouldn't have any problem finding an overnight visitor for that price.[/QUOTE]I'm no cheapo by any standards but that's way too much to spend.
Hmmm, sounds like a bad process, and I hate having to run to different places.
How is the process for outcalling them to your hotel? Hopefully a bit better turnout?
I think my strategy will be casas during the day and Parque lleras during the night.
I also heard walking centro during the day, get the numbers and contact them later is a good strategy.
Thoughts?
[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2964104]Usually the add will list all the qualities, qualifications like trained massage therapist and all the incredible things their going to do and how their going to make you feel. And of course the pictures say a thousand words or more like lies depending on your taste or luck. When you first try to contact them through usually WhatsApp or text you're lucky if you get a response within a few hours or even that day, unless of course it's set up like casa with multiple girls then you get usually a prompt response. The response will likely include "bb" or "amor". When you finally make it to their casa (usually it's in Laureles) you may either be to time invested to turn back or blind to the fact that you just been hustled with photo and ad. Either way it's a gamble. There's nothing like viewing the actual product in person. The best way to go about it is schedule several appointments if you don't like what you see (especially if you get a vibe of a nasty shitty attitude which can cancel out looks of any sorts) walked right out with out paying a dime and go to the next one. This way you'll avoid any buyer remorse. This is of course IMHO. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2964679]I'm no cheapo by any standards but that's way too much to spend.[/QUOTE]Yep. Depends on the place. Would be an amazing deal in some countries, but WAY expensive for Colombia. On the other hand, if you just wanted to show up for a few days of mindless sex and everything set up, would sure be an easy route. If I could find that deal in Germany, I would sign up ASAP!
[QUOTE=Krilimag;2964395]Also is Uber an easy use at Medellin? Or is there any other ride app I need to download?[/QUOTE]Uber is easy to use in Medellin. I set it up to use cash only. That way, there is less problems with chicas asking you to get them an Uber, thinking you will pay for it when that wasn't part of the deal. I also use DiDi, probably more than Uber. DiDi also has a food delivery service that is cheaper than Rappi. Uber and DiDi are usually close in price, just compare them. There's a new ride app called Yango. It usually costs more than Uber and DiDi, plus it's difficult to put in the address you want. I seldom use Cabify because you don't get a guaranteed price from it, only a suggested range. When I've used it, the price always ends up within the range presented.
I agree uber, didi, and indriver are easy to use and convenient in Medellin. I don't understand though what girls asking for rides have to do with whether or not you have the option to pay by credit card. I just tell them no and set the payment method as cash? Am I doing something wrong?
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2964928]Uber is easy to use in Medellin. I set it up to use cash only. That way, there is less problems with chicas asking you to get them an Uber, thinking you will pay for it when that wasn't part of the deal. I also use DiDi, probably more than Uber. DiDi also has a food delivery service that is cheaper than Rappi. Uber and DiDi are usually close in price, just compare them. There's a new ride app called Yango. It usually costs more than Uber and DiDi, plus it's difficult to put in the address you want. I seldom use Cabify because you don't get a guaranteed price from it, only a suggested range. When I've used it, the price always ends up within the range presented.[/QUOTE]
Hi all. A female friend of mine (latina but from spain) wants to meet some girls in Colombia with me, party, drink, fuck etc. I don't speak a lick of spanish but she does of course. Any idea the best way for us to find girls? Obviously we can in person in Medellin / Bogota / elsewhere but would prefer to set it up first.
Anyone know if handing your passport to the front desk at a hotel with 100 mil in it would help to get an upgrade. Or would that just insult them?
[QUOTE=KindAn;2965116]Hi all. A female friend of mine (latina but from spain) wants to meet some girls in Colombia with me, party, drink, fuck etc. I don't speak a lick of spanish but she does of course. Any idea the best way for us to find girls? Obviously we can in person in Medellin / Bogota / elsewhere but would prefer to set it up first.[/QUOTE]First question: have you seen her in action before?
Digression: women are not the same as men. When they talk about finding a lady, they often are looking for a partner. And until they find Ms. Right, the ladies you show her aren't interesting.
But some ladies can perform, especially if money is involved. Or they are drunk.
[QUOTE=KindAn;2965116]Hi all. A female friend of mine (latina but from spain) wants to meet some girls in Colombia with me, party, drink, fuck etc. I don't speak a lick of spanish but she does of course. Any idea the best way for us to find girls? Obviously we can in person in Medellin / Bogota / elsewhere but would prefer to set it up first.[/QUOTE]Women are generally not as transactional as men; it is a lot more about personality and how they all click in the moment. I don't think this is something you effectively setup in advance. Most working girls in Medellin are bi and have no problem having a good time with a couple. If this is your plan, you may be better off considering taking her to one of the many swinger clubs in town or checking out some of Park Lleras clubs and buying some drinks to find girls that click. The Spain play-scene is very much a meet-and-click type environment, if that is what she is used to.
[QUOTE=BizGuy;2965188]Anyone know if handing your passport to the front desk at a hotel with 100 mil in it would help to get an upgrade. Or would that just insult them?[/QUOTE]Colombia is not a tip-heavy environment. They are much more reactive to social politeness, friendliness, and personal connection. Sure, they will take the money, and I am sure that there are some front desk folks who will react positively to it. But this is not Las Vegas, and your intent will not always be obvious. Some may just take it with a happy smile and have no idea you wanted an upgrade. Better off being super friendly, politely asking if there is any chance of an upgrade, and if you think there is an opening then being more blunt and saying "and if I give you a $100 k tip, could that help find an upgrade" with a friendly wink. Be their best buddy, aware that you will have to hand-hold them to your intent. That said, rooms aren't very expensive. Easier to just pay for your upgraded room.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2965088]I agree uber, didi, and indriver are easy to use and convenient in Medellin. I don't understand though what girls asking for rides have to do with whether or not you have the option to pay by credit card. I just tell them no and set the payment method as cash? Am I doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]You're not going anything wrong if that works for you. I don't want that extra step, just in case I forget. I am getting old!
Planning a second trip to Medellin and using my lessons learned I am looking for lodging in Parque Lleras or the surrounding area (short walk with a chica). Necessities would be a TV with streaming options, good AC, and chica friendly. Other than that, I don't really care. Hashtag 98 was the first thing that comes to mind so feel free to shoot it down or talk it up. Thanks in advance fells and stay safe out there.
Any recommendations for or against Hashtag98 hotel? Pros and cons? P.
[QUOTE=JJax2424;2965667]Planning a second trip to Medellin and using my lessons learned I am looking for lodging in Parque Lleras or the surrounding area (short walk with a chica). Necessities would be a TV with streaming options, good AC, and chica friendly. Other than that, I don't really care. Hashtag 98 was the first thing that comes to mind so feel free to shoot it down or talk it up. Thanks in advance fells and stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]So many options if your budget minded.
Art hotel is cheaper than most but chica chrage not sure how much but they charge per guest.
Llares green is really cheap never stayed but very close to the parc unsure of chica charge.
Haven is ok I stayed a few times and chica friendly.
[QUOTE=JJax2424;2965667]Planning a second trip to Medellin and using my lessons learned I am looking for lodging in Parque Lleras or the surrounding area (short walk with a chica). Necessities would be a TV with streaming options, good AC, and chica friendly. Other than that, I don't really care. Hashtag 98 was the first thing that comes to mind so feel free to shoot it down or talk it up. Thanks in advance fells and stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]If only there were a topic about Medellin Hotels here.
Based on the info below, I feel like I've narrowed my options down to the following:
Lleras Green Hotel.
Hotel Selis.
Hashtag 98.
The Art Hotel.
Hotel Park 10.
I'd love to get some feedback from everyone on pros and cons of them as well as if anyone knows if they are Chica friendly.
[QUOTE=Bdd1124;2965871]So many options if your budget minded.
Art hotel is cheaper than most but chica chrage not sure how much but they charge per guest.
Llares green is really cheap never stayed but very close to the parc unsure of chica charge.
Haven is ok I stayed a few times and chica friendly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stl24;2965925]Based on the info below, I feel like I've narrowed my options down to the following:
Lleras Green Hotel.
Hotel Selis.
Hashtag 98.
The Art Hotel.
Hotel Park 10.
I'd love to get some feedback from everyone on pros and cons of them as well as if anyone knows if they are Chica friendly.[/QUOTE]Here's some feedback: there is a thread specifically for Medellin hotels. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/URL].
[QUOTE=BizGuy;2965188]Anyone know if handing your passport to the front desk at a hotel with 100 mil in it would help to get an upgrade. Or would that just insult them?[/QUOTE]Not a good idea whatsoever.
[QUOTE=Stl24;2965925]Based on the info below, I feel like I've narrowed my options down to the following:
The Art Hotel.
....
I'd love to get some feedback from everyone on pros and cons of them as well as if anyone knows if they are Chica friendly.[/QUOTE]Art Hotel used to be guest friendly many years back. But no longer. Also, I think it's style over comfort. Rather cold with lots of concrete.
As long as you don't get into to too much mischief it won't make a difference beyond alerting the hotel management to keep an eye on you.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2966269]Not a good idea whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
I'll be in Colombia in a few weeks. Going to hit Medellin, 2 weeks in Cartagena, then wrap up in Medellin. Question, how is it in Medellin post Christmas and New Years? I am curious to know if the price drops due to them spending everything for the holidays.
[QUOTE=CK465;2966365]Hey Question, how is it in Medellin post Christmas and New Years? I am curious to know if the price drops due to them spending everything for the holidays.[/QUOTE]If that is the case then wouldn't the price go up? When has hooker prices ever dropped anywhere besides covid?
[QUOTE=CK465;2966365]Hey guys,
I'll be in Colombia in a few weeks. Going to hit Medellin, 2 weeks in Cartagena, then wrap up in Medellin. Question, how is it in Medellin post Christmas and New Years? I am curious to know if the price drops due to them spending everything for the holidays.[/QUOTE]It's aweful actually. Everyone is with their families. Some go away to their fincas. New years is not a time to go out and drink it's time to hang with your family at.
Home, very different. Then after everyone heads to Cartagena for all kings day. Super dead unless you hang with chicks that have no family and that is super depressing as well.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2966378]It's aweful actually. Everyone is with their families. Some go away to their fincas. New years is not a time to go out and drink it's time to hang with your family at.
Home, very different. Then after everyone heads to Cartagena for all kings day. Super dead unless you hang with chicks that have no family and that is super depressing as well.[/QUOTE]Interesting, is crime also down too?
[QUOTE=CK465;2966386]Interesting, is crime also down too?[/QUOTE]The streets are slower however the holidays it's still people feeling the squeeze so in short, no. Still no dar papaya.
Report from September, was down there for a couple of weeks.
2nd time here, Was solo dolo and Stayed in Hotel Nutibara in Centro. Hotel was about $50 per night, free breakfast and no fee to bring in multiple morras a day and any time of day. They set me up on the top floor with a balcony, was nice so I could smoke a lot of weed with a view LOL.
I went to town man, I lost count pero acosté con más de 70 morras guey. I hunted centro street girls, centro casas, laureles casa, Loutron, lleras clubs / street girls, facebook / tinder hoes, and strip clubs. I'll talk about prices, experiences, and bullshit / scams that occurred.
Centro:
For context I'm late 20's, muscular / sleeve tattoos, and Mex-American so my Spanish is good and people didn't mess with me. I inject testosterone and other steroids to increase aggression and libido. So girls by the church quoted me 50 k pesos for 30 minutes, plus 10-20 k for the room. Not a lot of lookers here but can't beat the price.
Grill Nueva Avenida was a strip club 5 minute walk from the hotel and 80 k for 30 min. 7 k beers and 11 k for lady drink.
Walked to New Life casa one time and it was 75 k for 30 minutes. TBH only 1 or 2 girls were to my liking there.
Conejitas strip club was 100 k for 30 minutes.
Barra Exclusiva was the nicest looking strip club in centro but charged 250 k for 45 minutes and the morras weren't that hot.
Casas:
Loutron. All the chicks are 7+ but I'm picky for 400 k per hour. I went about 6 times and always sessioned but never found the 10 Latina that blew me away. Good / great service.
Spa Energy in Laureles. Went twice and girls were mostly average with a handful 7's. Good service and was around 250 k for the 45 min.
Lleras:
Park girls were quoting 400 k for the hour and most wouldn't budge from that even when it was getting late. TBH not a lot of baddies standing in the park but could be found after a few laps. Will say I got one girl to go for 300 k and she ended up staying with me til middle of the day the next morning.
Gusto. Went around 5 times looking for a 9-10 but honestly left pissed off or had mid experiences here. Went during prime time on Fridays / Saturdays and it was packed with tricks / baddies. Problem was it felt hard to compete as a solo dude and am a bit shy. All the hottest girls would gravitate towards the VIP tables in the sides of the club where large groups of men would pay for bottles and to sit in that area. Or the other tables with groups of 2–3 guys. I was by the bar area and couldn't see any morras near the bar worth the $200 per hour they were asking for. Quoted me $300-350 dollars for all night. Again most girls wouldn't lower their rate when I tried negotiating. I did go with a $300 all night that wasn't worth it and other nights just left disappointed.
Monte Carlo? - think this is the name but it's the club next to glow. Had two bullshit experiences here. One time left with a girl who was a psycho when we got to my hotel. I was too drunk but I remember she was crying / whining about how I should pay her more and her situation blah blah blah. She stole a bottle of guaro, about 20 joints of weed I had, and like $300 cash. Bad night.
Another time I was there just partying / drinking with two hoes and buying them a couple coctails. Think it was about 15 drinks total between all of us. I fucked up by keeping a tab and paying at the end because the fuckin club charged me like $400. I knew it was like double what it should've been so I just left pissed off.
Strip clubs:
La Isla- had a really bad experience here my last trip that I wrote about but decided to give another shot. Again was kinda a let down. Get there on a weekday night and buy a bucket 6 Heinekens so I can sit at a table. Immediately like 20 morras swarm me asking for tips for their dances, when I just arrived so obviously didn't see their dance. And 2 asked for a beer and I assumed they'the sit with me but they just took the beer and fuckin walked off. Anyways wasn't really impressed by any of them and just gave them 2-10 k to touch on them for a bit. Eventually got frustrated by them all swarming me so told them to fuck off LOL. Then as I kept drinking one caught my eye eventually (not as hot up close) but I went with her because it was 2:30 and place closed at 4. (I'll explain why that's relevant when I talk about Fase Dos). 600 k for 45 minutes and was above average service but just didn't seem worth it. Anyways I leave as the place is closing and my ADHD took me on a wild foolish adventure. I got on well with the young cab driver who was taking me home so instead I told him I'll buy him a ***** and let's go tag team a couple of chimbas parcero. We go to lleras at 5 am but place is dead so we go to centro to find some cheap club girls. Too embarrassed to say details but the night ended up going til 1 pm the next day and involved Tusi, cocaine, and a sick stomach.
Fase Dos. Went once on weeknight and sit by the bar. Again most of the hot girls are focusing on the groups of dudes sitting at tables with bottles and all the uglies / old girls by the bar. So I wait til this baddie is walking around for her dance tips and tell her I want to go to the room w her. She says I'll come back after I get my tips. Share a couple drinks and we go. 400 k for 45 min, I tell her I liked this other girl there and turns out it's her cousin (lies? She says I'll introduce you. We go back to the club area and she immediately ignores me to go w her cousin to go do a threesome with a colombiano (based on accent as he and his crew went to pay for a bunch of bitches to go with). Now I'm pissed off and wait around drinking and chatting to another morra because I'm finna get what I want. So they come out and first girl (Elizabet) looks guilty trying avoid eye contact. I tell her cousin Melissa lets go to the room now. It's like 3:30 so 30 min before closing time and I pay for 45 min. But we go to the room and I shit you not after 20 minutes they were knocking on the door. They said it's some bullshit rule they clear all the rooms at closing time but still charged me full price. I got both these morras numbers because they were hot as shit, (8-9) looks wise to me, but was enraged towards the club and girls on the cab ride home. Anyways had some fun with these chicks other nights. Sessioned with both separately in hotel and kept Elizabet in my bed 5 hours. Then towards end of trip I paid each $250 to chill all night (6 ish) hours and we went to a fun discoteca Dulcinea then did the trio after. Felt like a G in the disco with two chimbitas on my arms. Se besaban why se aborataban guey. A la verga compa!
Luna Lunera:
My personal favorite, in terms of value and experience. Went 3 times. 325 k for 45 min. I'the say most of the girls are average but there's always those 2 or 3 standouts. First night drank with sweet girl then went to room. Think it was like 250 k for 6 beers.
2nd time show up late and see my amiga from first night. Talk and share a couple beers. See this local with 2 girls but he leaves eventually and I tell my amiga to get one of the girls since she was a hottie. Share some beers with these two morras and then take the new girl to the room and leave my amiga a tip. Man this girl was wild! Sticking her tongue down my throat. I was fucking her so hard the bed moved across the whole room haha. Probably best sex of the trip.
The 3rd time I'm there and girls approach and I get a couple dances but overall not impressed. Until I see this 9 girl, tall, gorgeous, sexy toned body, looks mixed black. I tell my compa the waiter to introduce me. She's stuck up, I Tell her sit with me. She says no, only talk to me if you want to buy a servicio. But her rudeness only aroused me more and increased my desire. Then my waiter tried again a bit later but she won't come by and it was actually kinda funny watching him beg her. But eventually my amiga comes by and we chat and I tell her to tell the rude baddie that I'm ready to buy. It was time for me to take what I want from her. We go to the room and she tells me that the ruder she is with men, the more they want her. I said yes I agree. Then I proceeded to destroy her and make her submit to me, she was moaning as I punished her.
Facebook girls / tinder:
Some repeats from last time. Overall around 10 girls that I paid between 200-300 k per hour and most stayed with me for a few hours. We'the smoke weed, drink, and fuck. I'the say they were 6-7 looks. One girl was great I paid her 200 k and she stayed all night fucking and then in the morning she didn't want to leave and we cuddled watching movies. Another girl from tinder I just paid drinks and entry to take her to club Tutaina and we smashed all night and again in the AM.
Lessons / next time:
Going to focus on my FB girls, energy spa, Luna lunera, and maybe centro birds. Lleras was on too much bullshit w the clubs scamming, competition, and the girls charging too much for box.
Mexica out.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2966440]The streets are slower however the holidays it's still people feeling the squeeze so in short, no. Still no dar papaya.[/QUOTE]Of course, just got to walk smart and don't stand out. I'm not a picky person when it comes to El Centro pitas, I hooked up twice with a Venica mild and she treated me right each time. Hoping to find more gems cause I know they going to be hungry. Thanks overall, brah.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2965906]If only there were a topic about Medellin Hotels here.[/QUOTE]Hey Explorer, same answer from you on the Rio board. Nobody exists to serve you. You should try Bdd1124's style of offering something, or just stay out of the conversation.
[QUOTE=Mexica96;2966447]Report from September, was down there for a couple of weeks.
2nd time here, Was solo dolo and Stayed in Hotel Nutibara in Centro. Hotel was about $50 per night, free breakfast and no fee to bring in multiple morras a day and any time of day. They set me up on the top floor with a balcony, was nice so I could smoke a lot of weed with a view LOL.
Mexica out.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the nice report. Don't take this the wrong way but damn. Is this actually the going price for girls in Medellin? 300-600 k?? That's 3-4 times the normal price for even some of the higher end girls in other Colombian cities?
So add me to the list of being scoped. Before the trolls start, I did not meet her on tinder, bumble & I was not Medellin looking for girls. I was in Medellin for work & met her while out one night, in Laureles. So I had gone out with her 3 times previously before she scoped me & always had my guard up, but by the 4th "date" I guess I let my guard down. I tip my hat to her she played it smart, she waited till the night before I was heading back home to scope me. When I woke all my personal belongings where missing laptop, phone, wallet, money, tablet, most of my clothes etc. The only thing she left was my passport, I guess so I could catch my flight. I was not able to file a police report cause of my time restraint to catch my flight. With no money or credit cards, missing the flight was not an option. I am now trying to file a police report with the help from a local friend, but we all know the police won't do anything. I do have her social medias account & did report her to Facebook & instagram but I doubt there's anything they can do. If anyone knows or recognizes her & has her contact info, can you please dm it to me. I'm thinking of contacting that YouTube group Obi Laand to set her up.
Her socials:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/maria_alejandra822[/URL]
[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2966662]Thanks for the nice report. Don't take this the wrong way but damn. Is this actually the going price for girls in Medellin? 300-600 k?? That's 3-4 times the normal price for even some of the higher end girls in other Colombian cities?[/QUOTE]Yea man it's pretty dogshit but it's all the legions of passport bros pouring into Lleras lmao. Fuckin crazy that a lot of the chicks standing in the park are average but all think they deserve 400 k. Not sure if I'm coming back, I got to check out Bogota. Hell, I'm pretty green with just a few trips under my belt, but I had the time of my life last May in Lima with $15 street girls and the same rate in the chongos. And not a single gringo in sight in those places. Meanwhile The prices at the Medellin strip clubs were fixed and same with the casas, it is what it is.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2966801]So add me to the list of being scoped. Before the trolls start, I did not meet her on tinder, bumble & I was not Medellin looking for girls. I was in Medellin for work & met her while out one night, in Laureles. So I had gone out with her 3 times previously before she scoped me & always had my guard up, but by the 4th "date" I guess I let my guard down. I tip my hat to her she played it smart, she waited till the night before I was heading back home to scope me. When I woke all my personal belongings where missing laptop, phone, wallet, money, tablet, most of my clothes etc. The only thing she left was my passport, I guess so I could catch my flight. I was not able to file a police report cause of my time restraint to catch my flight. With no money or credit cards, missing the flight was not an option. I am now trying to file a police report with the help from a local friend, but we all know the police won't do anything. I do have her social medias account & did report her to Facebook & instagram but I doubt there's anything they can do. If anyone knows or recognizes her & has her contact info, can you please dm it to me. I'm thinking of contacting that YouTube group Obi Laand to set her up.
Her socials:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/maria_alejandra822[/URL][/QUOTE]I definitely have seen her profile online. Did you stay at a place with no security / concierge?
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2966944]I definitely have seen her profile online. Did you stay at a place with no security / concierge?[/QUOTE]This was on a FB group.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2966801]So add me to the list of being scoped. Before the trolls start, I did not meet her on tinder, bumble & I was not Medellin looking for girls. I was in Medellin for work & met her while out one night, in Laureles. So I had gone out with her 3 times previously before she scoped me & always had my guard up, but by the 4th "date" I guess I let my guard down. I tip my hat to her she played it smart, she waited till the night before I was heading back home to scope me. When I woke all my personal belongings where missing laptop, phone, wallet, money, tablet, most of my clothes etc. The only thing she left was my passport, I guess so I could catch my flight. I was not able to file a police report cause of my time restraint to catch my flight. With no money or credit cards, missing the flight was not an option. I am now trying to file a police report with the help from a local friend, but we all know the police won't do anything. I do have her social medias account & did report her to Facebook & instagram but I doubt there's anything they can do. If anyone knows or recognizes her & has her contact info, can you please dm it to me. I'm thinking of contacting that YouTube group Obi Laand to set her up.
Her socials:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/maria_alejandra822[/URL][/QUOTE]If you could be scoped anybody could be scoped.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2966801]So add me to the list of being scoped. Before the trolls start, I did not meet her on tinder, bumble & I was not Medellin looking for girls. I was in Medellin for work & met her while out one night, in Laureles. So I had gone out with her 3 times previously before she scoped me & always had my guard up, but by the 4th "date" I guess I let my guard down. I tip my hat to her she played it smart, she waited till the night before I was heading back home to scope me. When I woke all my personal belongings where missing laptop, phone, wallet, money, tablet, most of my clothes etc. The only thing she left was my passport, I guess so I could catch my flight. I was not able to file a police report cause of my time restraint to catch my flight. With no money or credit cards, missing the flight was not an option. I am now trying to file a police report with the help from a local friend, but we all know the police won't do anything. I do have her social medias account & did report her to Facebook & instagram but I doubt there's anything they can do. If anyone knows or recognizes her & has her contact info, can you please dm it to me. I'm thinking of contacting that YouTube group Obi Laand to set her up.
Her socials:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/maria_alejandra822[/URL][/QUOTE]Don't feel bad my friend. I know another friend who got it the same way. He even knew her parents Maybe the 3 day rule is the way to go.
She already locked her Instagram. What's her Facebook? (her name is too common for a manual search).
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2966801]So add me to the list of being scoped. Before the trolls start, I did not meet her on tinder, bumble & I was not Medellin looking for girls. I was in Medellin for work & met her while out one night, in Laureles. So I had gone out with her 3 times previously before she scoped me & always had my guard up, but by the 4th "date" I guess I let my guard down. I tip my hat to her she played it smart, she waited till the night before I was heading back home to scope me. When I woke all my personal belongings where missing laptop, phone, wallet, money, tablet, most of my clothes etc. The only thing she left was my passport, I guess so I could catch my flight. I was not able to file a police report cause of my time restraint to catch my flight. With no money or credit cards, missing the flight was not an option. I am now trying to file a police report with the help from a local friend, but we all know the police won't do anything. I do have her social medias account & did report her to Facebook & instagram but I doubt there's anything they can do. If anyone knows or recognizes her & has her contact info, can you please dm it to me. I'm thinking of contacting that YouTube group Obi Laand to set her up.
Her socials:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/maria_alejandra822[/URL][/QUOTE]
I just did 3 nights in MDE. Stayed at Sites Hotel which is a 10 minute walk south of Parque Lleras. The place was fine and allowed guests. I would have rather used the same AirBnB as before but it was taken. Airfare was 50% higher than in October. Everyone wants to see the Christmas lights along the river I guess.
I spent most of my time with a Tinder friend from last time. No money changed hands but I did buy her a motorcycle jacket (on goodwill of all places). We spent 2 days together but I was free to roam on Monday morning. I didn't see the recent scoping reports. It didn't happen to me but I was careless about leaving my wallet out of the safe.
I tried to hit Spa Fantasias Energy c74 #101 49 in Laureles but their girls didn't come in until 10:30 am so I got a cab over to New Life c56 #43- 39 (the pale blue door). I was shown 5 girls and chose one for for 70 k for 30 minutes. I gave her 50 for natural oral as well as a propina later since her performance was pretty good. The talent there seems like 5-6 on a scale of 10 but I like the convenience. I did walk through Lleras but the late night club thing is not for me.
The only painful parts of the trip were at the airport. The arrival queue for immigration was 3-4 hours. I figured out that they let people 65 yrs old into the priority line on the left so I got over there eventually. I came back the airport to rent a car and that was a total cluster. An hour wait with nobody in front of me. My advice is to not get a car there. My next trip is Feb. To Bogota I have a tiny english speaking spinner there to hang out with.
[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2966662]Thanks for the nice report. Don't take this the wrong way but damn. Is this actually the going price for girls in Medellin? 300-600 k?? That's 3-4 times the normal price for even some of the higher end girls in other Colombian cities?[/QUOTE]So higher end girls in other cities are $20-$40? . That has not been my experience LOL. I'the say 300-600 k ($75-$150) in MDE and 200-400 k ($50-$100) outside. The weekend warriors and passport bros have thrown off everything in MDE.
Even if you don't live here, it is not hard to avoid Parque Lleras.
[QUOTE=Mexica96;2966899]Yea man it's pretty dogshit but it's all the legions of passport bros pouring into Lleras lmao. Fuckin crazy that a lot of the chicks standing in the park are average but all think they deserve 400 k. Not sure if I'm coming back, I got to check out Bogota. Hell, I'm pretty green with just a few trips under my belt, but I had the time of my life last May in Lima with $15 street girls and the same rate in the chongos. And not a single gringo in sight in those places. Meanwhile The prices at the Medellin strip clubs were fixed and same with the casas, it is what it is.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2966965]She already locked her Instagram. What's her Facebook? (her name is too common for a manual search).[/QUOTE]I copied this whole story from a FB group-.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2966801]So add me to the list of being scoped. Before the trolls start, I did not meet her on tinder, bumble & I was not Medellin looking for girls. I was in Medellin for work & met her while out one night, in Laureles. So I had gone out with her 3 times previously before she scoped me & always had my guard up, but by the 4th "date" I guess I let my guard down. I tip my hat to her she played it smart, she waited till the night before I was heading back home to scope me. When I woke all my personal belongings where missing laptop, phone, wallet, money, tablet, most of my clothes etc. The only thing she left was my passport, I guess so I could catch my flight. I was not able to file a police report cause of my time restraint to catch my flight. With no money or credit cards, missing the flight was not an option. I am now trying to file a police report with the help from a local friend, but we all know the police won't do anything. I do have her social medias account & did report her to Facebook & instagram but I doubt there's anything they can do. If anyone knows or recognizes her & has her contact info, can you please dm it to me. I'm thinking of contacting that YouTube group Obi Laand to set her up.
Her socials:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/maria_alejandra822[/URL][/QUOTE]I know you are just doing a psa for someone else's experience. Common theme between these posts on here, YouTube videos, reddit, and news reports. Is that the girls doing this are ugly Instagram looking. I'm talking about both getting drugged and deaths.
Sure. Personal preference is a thing. But I've gotten into some shit into Colombia that probably should have gotten me scoped or worse based on what other people report. But its always with actually good looking normal, natural, and non Instagram non fake plastic looking women. I wouldn't fuck the girl in the photo for free.
Massive ymwv. But the trend seems strong. It's almost as if the girls that don't have a real sense of reality also best case scenario are not honest and worst case scenario don't value another person life over their distorted version of reality.
[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2967062]I know you are just doing a psa for someone else's experience. Common theme between these posts on here, YouTube videos, reddit, and news reports. Is that the girls doing this are ugly Instagram looking. I'm talking about both getting drugged and deaths.
Sure. Personal preference is a thing. But I've gotten into some shit into Colombia that probably should have gotten me scoped or worse based on what other people report. But its always with actually good looking normal, natural, and non Instagram non fake plastic looking women. I wouldn't fuck the girl in the photo for free.
Massive ymwv. But the trend seems strong. It's almost as if the girls that don't have a real sense of reality also best case scenario are not honest and worst case scenario don't value another person life over their distorted version of reality.[/QUOTE]Exactly, when I saw the girl in the photo, I said to myself eww LOL. She's like almost 30 and looks plastic and fake as hell, a far cry from the nice natural 18-22 year olds I typically go for.
It always seems to be these hardened pro looking bytches who are doing the majority of the scoping, not the younger more innocent looking ones.
Although I was once almost scoped by a 19 year old pregnant Venezuelan Lesbian (don't ask LOL) but luckily I caught that shit and poured the beer out.
You can't pull a fast one over on El Gabacho. I poured that shit out and still fucked the hoe LOL. But unfortunately she took advantage of my trust and kindness and still managed to steal some electronics from my backpack, but I learned alot from that experience and other than a USB see charging cable stolen from me in the Philippines, I haven't had anything else stolen from me since the incident with the lesbian and it has been like 2 whole years now. And there also hasn't been any other scoping attempts on my life either (yes, I consider it attempted murder, because scopolamine can kill you). In fact I came up with my "Monger 10 Commandments" after that and I don't break them for no one or no thing LOL.
Last I heard the stupid lesbian was living in Villahermosa barrio and she's running around telling people in Medellin that I'm the father of her baby lmao. I've had a vasectomy since 2008.
Anyways be safe out there and never leave a drink unattended not even for 2 seconds. In fact don't even drink with these hoes you don't really know them or their intentions and you may have no problems 200 times in a row and then on the 201st time get scoped, you just never know.
We go to Colombia for pussy not for Aguila Light.
-Gabacho.
Barra Ejecuitva is at 250 k? Damn! I used to pay 70 - 80 k for a short time. Those were the days. Medellin used to be the shit!
[QUOTE=Mexica96;2966447]Report from September, was down there for a couple of weeks.
2nd time here, Was solo dolo and Stayed in Hotel Nutibara in Centro. Hotel was about $50 per night, free breakfast and no fee to bring in multiple morras a day and any time of day. They set me up on the top floor with a balcony, was nice so I could smoke a lot of weed with a view LOL.
I went to town man, I lost count pero acost con ms de 70 morras guey. I hunted centro street girls, centro casas, laureles casa, Loutron, lleras clubs / street girls, facebook / tinder hoes, and strip clubs. I'll talk about prices, experiences, and bullshit / scams that occurred..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2967209]Barra Ejecuitva is at 250 k? Damn! I used to pay 70 - 80 k for a short time. Those were the days. Medellin used to be the shit![/QUOTE]Bara Ejec is not fixed price. Girls can charge what they want. Same goes for most of the clubs in Centro.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2966801]So add me to the list of being scoped. Before the trolls start, I did not meet her on tinder, bumble & I was not Medellin looking for girls. I was in Medellin for work & met her while out one night, in Laureles. So I had gone out with her 3 times previously before she scoped me & always had my guard up, but by the 4th "date" I guess I let my guard down. I tip my hat to her she played it smart, she waited till the night before I was heading back home to scope me. When I woke all my personal belongings where missing laptop, phone, wallet, money, tablet, most of my clothes etc. The only thing she left was my passport, I guess so I could catch my flight. I was not able to file a police report cause of my time restraint to catch my flight. With no money or credit cards, missing the flight was not an option. I am now trying to file a police report with the help from a local friend, but we all know the police won't do anything. I do have her social medias account & did report her to Facebook & instagram but I doubt there's anything they can do. If anyone knows or recognizes her & has her contact info, can you please dm it to me. I'm thinking of contacting that YouTube group Obi Laand to set her up.
Her socials:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/maria_alejandra822[/URL][/QUOTE]I know her. What's funny is that if you look at her instagram she's gone on lavish vacations to countries all over Europe probably a combo of simps taking her ran through twat with them on vacations and from all the money that she got from the guys she's drugged. A buddy of mine had a friend last month the got scoped from a girl he meet on facebook and she managed to steal $11,000 out of his account before she lost access. With prices skyrocketing in Medellin, it's getting wild.
Thanks for sharing though. Most guys who get drugged are too ashamed to bring it out and we get skewed version of how dangerous this place can be.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2966801]So add me to the list of being scoped. ... I had gone out with her 3 times previously before she scoped me & always had my guard up, but by the 4th "date" ... she waited till the night before I was heading back home to scope me. When I woke all my personal belongings where missing laptop, phone, wallet, money, tablet, most of my clothes etc. The only thing she left was my passport, I guess so I could catch my flight. I was not able to file a police report cause of my time restraint to catch my flight. With no money or credit cards, missing the flight was not an option. I am now trying to file a police report with the help from a local friend, but we all know the police won't do anything. I do have her social medias account & did report her to Facebook & instagram but I doubt there's anything they can do. If anyone knows or recognizes her & has her contact info, can you please dm it to me...
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/maria_alejandra822[/URL][/QUOTE]If Scoping can happen to Woodman, King of the Bogota hoes, it can happen to you in Medellin. Gringos are in Medellin to be taken advantage of, pure and simple.
In 2005 I had a hot young woman get me for marriage, I paid for her boob job and bought 2 taxi cabs in her name for her brother and uncle to drive; then in the first year of marriage she got pregnant with her Medellin boyfriend before she got her visa to the US, which I cancelled and got an annulment.
God made Colombian women to take advantage of gringo men. We think we are getting prime pussy, but in reality, they are the real winners one way or another. BEWARE!
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2967348]I know her. What's funny is that if you look at her instagram she's gone on lavish vacations to countries all over Europe probably a combo of simps taking her ran through twat with them on vacations and from all the money that she got from the guys she's drugged. A buddy of mine had a friend last month the got scoped from a girl he meet on facebook and she managed to steal $11,000 out of his account before she lost access. With prices skyrocketing in Medellin, it's getting wild.
Thanks for sharing though. Most guys who get drugged are too ashamed to bring it out and we get skewed version of how dangerous this place can be.[/QUOTE]Medellin should be crossed off our lists. Same with Cartagena. Too much bullshit to deal with. Way too many druggings. Not worth it.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2967463]If Scoping can happen to Woodman, King of the Bogota hoes, it can happen to you in Medellin. Gringos are in Medellin to be taken advantage of, pure and simple.
In 2005 I had a hot young woman get me for marriage, I paid for her boob job and bought 2 taxi cabs in her name for her brother and uncle to drive; then in the first year of marriage she got pregnant with her Medellin boyfriend before she got her visa to the US, which I cancelled and got an annulment.
God made Colombian women to take advantage of gringo men. We think we are getting prime pussy, but in reality, they are the real winners one way or another. BEWARE![/QUOTE]Never ever pay for, or encourage your girlfriend to get, a boob job. A guy who she liked but did not like her will want her now.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2967463]If Scoping can happen to Woodman, King of the Bogota hoes, it can happen to you in Medellin. Gringos are in Medellin to be taken advantage of, pure and simple.
In 2005 I had a hot young woman get me for marriage, I paid for her boob job and bought 2 taxi cabs in her name for her brother and uncle to drive; then in the first year of marriage she got pregnant with her Medellin boyfriend before she got her visa to the US, which I cancelled and got an annulment.
God made Colombian women to take advantage of gringo men. We think we are getting prime pussy, but in reality, they are the real winners one way or another. BEWARE![/QUOTE]Woodman was just reposting a FB posting. It did not happen to him.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2967463]If Scoping can happen to Woodman, King of the Bogota hoes, it can happen to you in Medellin. [/QUOTE]Woodman09 posted in a later post that he copied that report from a Facebook group, it didn't happen to him.
Not sure who might be interested but his place is a sort of a higher end place by Mde standards, that I got to check out. If you like nuru and shit like that, I can recommend it although not the cheapest. But the quality is there.
Back story. There for holidays with entire family so not many opportunities to do shit. Found someone on pp and got away to do the deed but when I showed up at the apartment, it was like a damn call center. Like 5 or 6 girls all yapping and typing away on their phones and some shady looking dudes. I was like I forgot my wallet and jetted. LOL let me not get my ass scoped or disappeared with the whole fam here. So I looked up nuru places. Settled on Atenea. [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/CpRV4Srkks9Mz3n3A[/URL]
WhatsApp contact. Very friendly and bilingual. Appointment needed. Sent menu and pics. Chose, set time, and went. I wanted make believe quality time LMAO so I opted for the standard Nuru which includes finishing you, for 270 mil and paid another 120 mil for jacuzzi time afterwards. Optional. It was 70 minutes massage and finish plus 20 minutes nice hot jacuzzi frolicking. Not FS but I knew what I was getting and was ok with it. Got to masturbate all the girls I tried till they came, one with a vibrator and some other toys. Very oily fun with really hot girls. Went 3 times and enjoyed every one. Amazing personalities and not on their stupid phones every 3 minutes!
Anyway, yes more expensive than a lot of FS options around town but super safe, upscale place with very nice ladies if this type of thing interest you. Pics of the girls I saw and I'd say they were about 70-80% like in the pics.
Humbly. Mocos.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2967463]If Scoping can happen to Woodman, King of the Bogota hoes, it can happen to you in Medellin. Gringos are in Medellin to be taken advantage of, pure and simple.
In 2005 I had a hot young woman get me for marriage, I paid for her boob job and bought 2 taxi cabs in her name for her brother and uncle to drive; then in the first year of marriage she got pregnant with her Medellin boyfriend before she got her visa to the US, which I cancelled and got an annulment.
God made Colombian women to take advantage of gringo men. We think we are getting prime pussy, but in reality, they are the real winners one way or another.[/QUOTE]God definitely made most Colombian women liers thieves and cheats. Here in Medellin two nights ago had my wallet stolen while foolishly allowing a street girl to fondle my dick from outside my jeans and placing my hand on her pussy. I didn't realize until we parted company about 15 minutes later.
Not much damage done, lost about $50 and fortunately I had removed my credit card hours earlier.
Be careful out there.
Johnie.
So after reviewing way too many of the endless posts on here.
There seems to be 4 basic ways to enjoy all the lovelies in Medellin.
1) Street girls. Lots to be found, esp around Parque Lleras. Helps to speak spanish.
2) Casas: Lots to be found, varying grades of quality. Lots of reviews and hints available.
3) FB / Tinder / Insta: Seems to be the best and the worst. If you have the time, looks like you can establish a nice P2 P relation with a gal this way. Haven't had much luck myself setting it up the last few weeks before my trip. Do have a nice contact from one of our frequent ISG posters that I have be communicating with. Hope it goes well. Also seems to be the hotspot for Scop issues.
4) Prepagos: I'm quite intrigued by this. Prices seem reasonable, ladies look lovely and do answer to an agency. Seems like a good bet. But minimal reports on the ISG re: using these services. I use agencies frequently in my travels, so am a bit concerned that this isn't commonly used in MDE. Any reason why?
So my plan for next week:
Casas: Lutron and New Life and.
Prepagos: Unless someone steers me another direction. Ellas Erotica and La Celestina both seem legit. (Catador Colombia for reviews).
Current contact from ISG contact.
Am I missing anything? Staying in Poblado at a nice hotel, probably can't swing an impromptu orgy, but can bring a gal to my room without difficulty.
Looking forward to posting a trip report!
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2967463]
God made Colombian women to take advantage of gringo men. We think we are getting prime pussy, but in reality, they are the real winners one way or another. BEWARE![/QUOTE]In reality, I think its kinda fair. We invented the rules, ofc to suit us. We exploit them for cheap labour and sex, and we deny them equal opportunities. So, for them to strike back and recover some of the money we manipulated from them, is kinda karma.
[QUOTE=LR123;2967698]
There seems to be 4 basic ways to enjoy all the lovelies in Medellin.
1) Street girls
2) Casas
3) FB / Tinder / Insta
4) Prepagos
Am I missing anything? [/QUOTE]Strip clubs are always one of my fave ways of meeting girls. Also bars and regular clubs.
Chat to people and be a nice person. That usually opens a lot of doors.
4. Prepagos? They are all prepagos.
I respect your decision. I hope you find your happy place.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2967500]Medellin should be crossed off our lists. Same with Cartagena. Too much bullshit to deal with. Way too many druggings. Not worth it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MocosGuey;2967678]...Settled on Atenea. [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/CpRV4Srkks9Mz3n3A[/URL]
Anyway, yes more expensive than a lot of FS options around town but super safe, upscale place with very nice ladies if this type of thing interest you. Pics of the girls I saw and I'd say they were about 70-80% like in the pics.[/QUOTE]Very good report, and nice looking ladies. I have many Facebook chica friends, but I'll probably visit that place for a change of pace.
[QUOTE=Johnie;2967687]God definitely made most Colombian women liers thieves and cheats. Here in Medellin two nights ago had my wallet stolen while foolishly allowing a street girl to fondle my dick from outside my jeans and placing my hand on her pussy. I didn't realize until we parted company about 15 minutes later.
Not much damage done, lost about $50 and fortunately I had removed my credit card hours earlier.
Be careful out there.
Johnie.[/QUOTE]Most street girls are probably liers, thieves and cheats but most Colombian women are just liers like women everywhere. Some are thieves and cheats as well but definitely a minority.
[QUOTE=Johnie;2967687]God definitely made most Colombian women liers thieves and cheats. Here in Medellin two nights ago had my wallet stolen while foolishly allowing a street girl to fondle my dick from outside my jeans and placing my hand on her pussy. I didn't realize until we parted company about 15 minutes later.
Not much damage done, lost about $50 and fortunately I had removed my credit card hours earlier.
Be careful out there.
Johnie.[/QUOTE]I don't ask out of disrespect but why bring you wallet outside? Anything can happen and it's been said dozen of time to only bring what you need. I usually carry a burner and enough cash and they're both in my front pock with my shirt over them. Meaning, I'd feel someone digging into my front pockets 9/10. Sorry that happens it just the horror stories here and on Youtube got me on alert and when I hear such and such happened it seemed so preventable in hindsight.
I know this is a mongering forum but has anybody really found a life partner in Colombia? I mean, going down there to find a potential wife is REALLY slim. Especially since cheating is accepted over there along with the high baby momma ratio but I personally would seek out a wife, a FWB or fuck buddy, but a wife, not so much. The closest that may make me fall in love is a Venezolana though. I've had zero issues with them and they treat me like a king as a black man. I don't dislike Paisas but those Vennies got me though. There a fat ass street MILF who goes by Chella and I see her on 60% of the walk videos on Youtube XD but she was an awesome both times.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2967463]If Scoping can happen to Woodman, King of the Bogota hoes, it can happen to you in Medellin. Gringos are in Medellin to be taken advantage of, pure and simple.
In 2005 I had a hot young woman get me for marriage, I paid for her boob job and bought 2 taxi cabs in her name for her brother and uncle to drive; then in the first year of marriage she got pregnant with her Medellin boyfriend before she got her visa to the US, which I cancelled and got an annulment.
God made Colombian women to take advantage of gringo men. We think we are getting prime pussy, but in reality, they are the real winners one way or another. BEWARE![/QUOTE]Does this only happen in Medellin or in other cities as well?
So Colombia seems to be the only country where girls use that shit to drug you. And since it s undetectable why guys still go there to play lottery? I don't get it.
I won't get into too many details and just get straight to the point. So what started as just me and my girlfriend has now expanded into my girlfriend and some of her friends and her sisters friends and now I'm up to about 9 people and we all need a place to meet for a group session. I'm having a very difficult time finding a place for this encounter to occur. My girlfriends apartment is too small for such a thing to occur so it would need to be elsewhere. Does anyone have any good ideas here? I'm stuck. I don't see a hotel that would allow so many visitors.
[QUOTE=CK465;2967768]I know this is a mongering forum but has anybody really found a life partner in Colombia? I mean, going down there to find a potential wife is REALLY slim. [/QUOTE]It is only slim if you are looking amongst hookers. I have found many life partners in Colombia, but I am not the settling down type.
[QUOTE=CK465;2967768]I know this is a mongering forum but has anybody really found a life partner in Colombia? I mean, going down there to find a potential wife is REALLY slim. Especially since cheating is accepted over there along with the high baby momma ratio but I personally would seek out a wife, a FWB or fuck buddy, but a wife, not so much. The closest that may make me fall in love is a Venezolana though. I've had zero issues with them and they treat me like a king as a black man. I don't dislike Paisas but those Vennies got me though. There a fat ass street MILF who goes by Chella and I see her on 60% of the walk videos on Youtube XD but she was an awesome both times.[/QUOTE]I see the issue of finding a life partner in Colombia as an individual thing. What applies to one gent will not necessarily apply to another. Nevertheless, my experience in Colombia is that there are many options among non pros but you need to be able to speak Spanish.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2967867]I see the issue of finding a life partner in Colombia as an individual thing. What applies to one gent will not necessarily apply to another. Nevertheless, my experience in Colombia is that there are many options among non pros but you need to be able to speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]Having lived in Colombia for many many years, I can tell you very few men find their wives in Colombia not just because of the language barrier but because of the cultural barrier. I've seen tons of men with the same idea to find a wife in Colombia only to leave only to leave a year later in complete distress. I would say that Colombia especially Medellin is probably the worst place to find a wife. They might find a girl out and about and think that she's a good girl only to get robbed after the 4th date or to find out that she's sleeping with other gringos on the side or she has a Colombian boyfriend (which she prefers above all). Out of all the Latin American countries I've been to Colombians, especially Paisas are the biggest liars I've ever met. And it's due to the legacy of Pablo Escobar. Even decades after his death, he's left a deep cultural imprint of criminality. The locals call it "cultura traqueta." Women here, although many have been taken on to more lavish trips by the age of 22 than you will ever go to, have never lived in another country. They don't know that cheating on their boyfriend is as bad as it is because it's so normalized in their culture. I've slept with so many Colombian women that have boyfriends who they really loved and they didn't feel guilty.
Men who come to this country looking for wives are men who really don't understand the culture at all. Once these women have had a taste of the fast money of selling their bodies, a guy who wants her to stay home and cook will sound like a horrible proposition. Most Paisas don't want to leave the country, don't want to be your husband because marriage isn't even a strong institution in the culture and they don't want to be married to a foreigner unless they're 35+ and they've had a lot of financial hardship in their life. They just want your money and they want to party in Medellin. They will lie, cheat, and steal in order to do that.
[QUOTE=CK465;2967767]I don't ask out of disrespect but why bring you wallet outside?[/QUOTE]Maybe it is a thing like you see people with covers on their luggage. They want a protector for the thing that is protecting their belongings. In his case he wants somewhere to keep the money that his pocket is going to keep. Only keeping it directly in the pocket is not good enough. Got to have that bulge to make it easier on the thieves.
My buddy was telling me about a guy he knows that had $3500 stolen out of his fanny pack when he was on the bus in Thailand. Wearing one of those things is advertising to thieves that here is where all my valuable stuff is.
[QUOTE=JohnWick6969;2967810]Does this only happen in Medellin or in other cities as well?
So Colombia seems to be the only country where girls use that shit to drug you. And since it s undetectable why guys still go there to play lottery? I don't get it.[/QUOTE]It happens all over the world. Even Cardi b talked about doing it to guys in New York.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47718477[/URL]
A girl in Thailand showed me the ghb (date raape) that they use. It was a green liquid. She said you have to be careful to only put a little or you will kill the person. It seems the difference is that the thieves in Medellin do not care whether they kill the person or not.
[QUOTE=JohnWick6969;2967810]Does this only happen in Medellin or in other cities as well?
So Colombia seems to be the only country where girls use that shit to drug you. And since it s undetectable why guys still go there to play lottery? I don't get it.[/QUOTE]It happens in other cities. I'm aware of two recent incidents in Cali. But it's more common in MDE because an awful lot of foreigners (many of whom are really naive) go to MDE these days.
"Slipping a Mickey" has been going on for years in countries all around the World, although the particular substance they slip in your drink varies from place to place.
[QUOTE=CK465;2967768]I know this is a mongering forum but has anybody really found a life partner in Colombia? I mean, going down there to find a potential wife is REALLY slim.[/QUOTE]No. Your search is a fantasy. Like finding the fountain of youth or Holy Grail. Or a unicorn under a rainbow.
Since 1990 I have been going to Colombia looking. Have tried to get married twice. First cunning one from Medellin got pregnant with a Colombian guy before her spousal visa got approved, so got an annulment. Second one from Cali poked me in the eye with her fingers and I got rid of her, now on FB I see she is in Texas with some other husband who probably likes to be attacked.
In the 1990's there were alot of matrimonial agencies, so the girls could get away from the FARC, I went to several in Cali and Medellin. Only women from the agencies were opportunists, probably I was also. If you can find a cute retard you might have a chance.
[QUOTE=Johnie;2967687]God definitely made most Colombian women liers thieves and cheats. Here in Medellin two nights ago had my wallet stolen while foolishly allowing a street girl to fondle my dick from outside my jeans and placing my hand on her pussy. I didn't realize until we parted company about 15 minutes later.
Not much damage done, lost about $50 and fortunately I had removed my credit card hours earlier..[/QUOTE]I had that happen with a hoe I picked up in town. She gave me a blow job in the car, while grabbing my wallet when my pants were down. So clever I did not notice her slick hands were working on my wallet. She made off with a couple hundred $$.
The only women worse than Colombian women are Dominican women, and Puerto Rican women, especially if they have lived in NYC. I am sure I will get a lot of criticism for speaking the truth, but its true.
[QUOTE=TradeMarc69;2967821]I won't get into too many details and just get straight to the point. So what started as just me and my girlfriend has now expanded into my girlfriend and some of her friends and her sisters friends and now I'm up to about 9 people and we all need a place to meet for a group session. I'm having a very difficult time finding a place for this encounter to occur. My girlfriends apartment is too small for such a thing to occur so it would need to be elsewhere. Does anyone have any good ideas here? I'm stuck. I don't see a hotel that would allow so many visitors.[/QUOTE]AirBnb in the countryside if you can get outside the city, especially if it is for a weekend. As you probably know, Colombians often vacation with the whole family, so there are a LOT of options at all sorts of price levels and features. Finding anything like that in the city is difficult, as you have already found out.
Report back with your adventures.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2967867]I see the issue of finding a life partner in Colombia as an individual thing. What applies to one gent will not necessarily apply to another. Nevertheless, my experience in Colombia is that there are many options among non pros but you need to be able to speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]Well stated and succinct. Between the nature of this forum and the dynamic of MDE, it comes as NO surprise you get a lot of negative responses to it here.
I have seen many great relationships occur between Colombiana and foreigners. However, they all have been with non-Paisas. Those with Paisas (in MDE or elsewhere) have ended badly. Which only reinforces my stereotype of Paisas.
You lost me until you mentioned the language barrier. I thought you were writing about Colombians based on living here long term. It made no sense and then I realized you were making an observation about foreigners. That observation more than makes sense, it is dead obvious even allowing our group's strong disinclination toward marriage in general. Colombians and other latinos are in fact socially conservative, family oriented and favor long term primary relationships. This of course excludes the subculture of urban prepagos and their dodgy social circles that we rub elbows with. You definitely don't want to marry into any of that. Keep in mind we frequent a subculture. It's very different from the Colombians I worked with who know only enough about them to avoid them like the plague. For example, years ago Parque Lleras was a place to take the family for Sunday night dinner. You all know the rest.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2967875]Having lived in Colombia for many many years, I can tell you very few men find their wives in Colombia not just because of the language barrier but because of the cultural barrier. I've seen tons of men with the same idea to find a wife in Colombia only to leave only to leave a year later in complete distress. I would say that Colombia especially Medellin is probably the worst place to find a wife. They might find a girl out and about and think that she's a good girl only to get robbed after the 4th date or to find out that she's sleeping with other gringos on the side or she has a Colombian boyfriend (which she prefers above all). Out of all the Latin American countries I've been to Colombians, especially Paisas are the biggest liars I've ever met. And it's due to the legacy of Pablo Escobar. Even decades after his death, he's left a deep cultural imprint of criminality. The locals call it "cultura traqueta." Women here, although many have been taken on to more lavish trips by the age of 22 than you will ever go to, have never lived in another country. They don't know that cheating on their boyfriend is as bad as it is because it's so normalized in their culture. I've slept with so many Colombian women that have boyfriends who they really loved and they didn't feel guilty.
Men who come to this country looking for wives are men who really don't understand the culture at all. Once these women have had a taste of the fast money of selling their bodies, a guy who wants her to stay home and cook will sound like a horrible proposition. Most Paisas don't want to leave the country, don't want to be your husband because marriage isn't even a strong institution in the culture and they don't want to be married to a foreigner unless they're 35+ and they've had a lot of financial hardship in their life. They just want your money and they want to party in Medellin. They will lie, cheat, and steal in order to do that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TradeMarc69;2967821]I won't get into too many details and just get straight to the point. So what started as just me and my girlfriend has now expanded into my girlfriend and some of her friends and her sisters friends and now I'm up to about 9 people and we all need a place to meet for a group session. I'm having a very difficult time finding a place for this encounter to occur. My girlfriends apartment is too small for such a thing to occur so it would need to be elsewhere. Does anyone have any good ideas here? I'm stuck. I don't see a hotel that would allow so many visitors.[/QUOTE]I've had no issues at the Haven hotel. The penthouse is for 8 guests but I don't see an issue having the ninth if the come separately but you may have a 100 k fee as that goes over the free guest count (number of rooms x 2).
There are a couple airbnbs I've used around poblado with no issues. None of these options are cheap tho.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2967597]Never ever pay for, or encourage your girlfriend to get, a boob job. A guy who she liked but did not like her will want her now.[/QUOTE]The way I've heard this explained is that you're just making her more attractive to find a guy that's richer / better looking or just higher status than you. I'd NEVER sink that much money into any woman, let alone a woman who is clearly p4 p.
I'm planning on staying on a different spot on my next visit to Medellin. Any of you have stayed at one of these hotels and their guest policy? I would appreciate any info and I will definitely return the favor to make a report after the trip.
- Heiss hotel.
- Ibis Medelland.
- Novotel Medellin El tesoro.
- Hashtag 98.
- Blues suites Medellin.
- Sites hotel.
- Hotel Dix.
- Glow Medellin.
- Lettera Hotel.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2967875]Having lived in Colombia for many many years, I can tell you very few men find their wives in Colombia not just because of the language barrier but because of the cultural barrier. I've seen tons of men with the same idea to find a wife in Colombia only to leave only to leave a year later in complete distress. I would say that Colombia especially Medellin is probably the worst place to find a wife. [/QUOTE]I think that is more a Medellin thing and not a Colombian thing. My ex-girlfriend from Valledupar went to Medellin to find work and after 1 month she was out of that place. Even as a Colombian, that Medellin culture was too much for her. I never took to Medellin the way I have taken to other Colombian cities. I have never had any problem with the chicks I have dealt with over the years cheating or already having a boyfriend or having dealt with foreigners before. If you want a hooker, go to Medellin. If you want a normal Colombian woman for a traditional relationship, then go to other cities. But as has been said before, you will be at a disadvantage if you do not speak Spanish, especially in this social media attention-seeking age.
[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;2967987]The way I've heard this explained is that you're just making her more attractive to find a guy that's richer / better looking or just higher status than you. I'd NEVER sink that much money into any woman, let alone a woman who is clearly p4 p.[/QUOTE]The same reason I will never buy a phone for a chick just for her to meet and talk to other guys with. The only thing I am sinking into a woman is this dick. But some guys are out to please or win approval or do things they think will keep her. I have never been that type of person. I will tell them that if they can find someone better then go for it. In a few cases they have become divorced single moms. I tell them that they were on the right track, but the wrong train.
[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2967988]I'm planning on staying on a different spot on my next visit to Medellin. Any of you have stayed at one of these hotels and their guest policy? I would appreciate any info and I will definitely return the favor to make a report after the trip.
- Heiss hotel.
- Ibis Medelland.
- Novotel Medellin El tesoro.
- Hashtag 98.
- Blues suites Medellin.
- Sites hotel.
- Hotel Dix.
- Glow Medellin.
- Lettera Hotel.[/QUOTE]If only there were a topic here about Medellin hotels.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2968084]I think that is more a Medellin thing and not a Colombian thing. My ex-girlfriend from Valledupar went to Medellin to find work and after 1 month she was out of that place. Even as a Colombian, that Medellin culture was too much for her. I never took to Medellin the way I have taken to other Colombian cities. I have never had any problem with the chicks I have dealt with over the years cheating or already having a boyfriend or having dealt with foreigners before. If you want a hooker, go to Medellin. If you want a normal Colombian woman for a traditional relationship, then go to other cities. But as has been said before, you will be at a disadvantage if you do not speak Spanish, especially in this social media attention-seeking age.[/QUOTE]What I have seen is that a lot of these "relationships" don't last not because of language or culture differences. But because the relationship is made up of desperation on both ends.
Oh one side, you have a paisa that is dirt poor. She is looking for someone to support her and her kid (s). She is young and like many of the girls, above average in looks and great in bed.
She is willing to "sacrifice" herself to an old foreigner that under normal circumstances she would not give the time of day to.
On the foreigner side, you often have an old out of shape, desperate for attention foreigner that feels like he is Rockefeller in Medellin because of the low cost of living and price of pussy.
It just doesn't last as there is no true love, strictly a monetary and a companion need between 2 people.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2968140]What I have seen is that a lot of these "relationships" don't last not because of language or culture differences. But because the relationship is made up of desperation on both ends.
Oh one side, you have a paisa that is dirt poor. She is looking for someone to support her and her kid (s). She is young and like many of the girls, above average in looks and great in bed.
She is willing to "sacrifice" herself to an old foreigner that under normal circumstances she would not give the time of day to.
On the foreigner side, you often have an old out of shape, desperate for attention foreigner that feels like he is Rockefeller in Medellin because of the low cost of living and price of pussy.
It just doesn't last as there is no true love, strictly a monetary and a companion need between 2 people.[/QUOTE]The killer for those type of relationships is the endgame. How does the young lady get out of the relationship with money to live on? Or, what happens when the guy kicks off and leaves his money to his family? Sometimes the lady will produce a baby in the hopes that the baby inherits the foreigner's money. Unless the foreigner insists on a DNA test. Oops.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2968140]What I have seen is that a lot of these "relationships" don't last not because of language or culture differences. But because the relationship is made up of desperation on both ends.
Oh one side, you have a paisa that is dirt poor. She is looking for someone to support her and her kid (s). She is young and like many of the girls, above average in looks and great in bed.
She is willing to "sacrifice" herself to an old foreigner that under normal circumstances she would not give the time of day to.
On the foreigner side, you often have an old out of shape, desperate for attention foreigner that feels like he is Rockefeller in Medellin because of the low cost of living and price of pussy.
It just doesn't last as there is no true love, strictly a monetary and a companion need between 2 people.[/QUOTE]Again, you are talking about a Medellin thing. I have never had a normal chick from another city that is not a hooker asking me about paying their bills or feeding their family or taking them away from it all. This is apples and bowling balls. Don't sign up for a hooker or someone to use you if that is not what you want.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2968144]The killer for those type of relationships is the endgame. How does the young lady get out of the relationship with money to live on? Or, what happens when the guy kicks off and leaves his money to his family? Sometimes the lady will produce a baby in the hopes that the baby inherits the foreigner's money. Unless the foreigner insists on a DNA test. Oops.[/QUOTE]The killer is also that most of the guys looking for a legitimate relationship are interacting with pros or semi-pros. That's not going to work. If you live there, if you speak Spanish, if you date non-hooker women that are within 15 years of your age, you can establish a legitimate LT relationship (pretty much like in the US or Europe).
Mixing mongering with trying to establish a LT relationship is hazardous.
I've been coming to Medellin for the past 7 years now, post divorce from a really bad and largely sex-less marriage, and getting my kids into college. I eventually started a business here with an office to support my business and clients in the USA, which is going well, so now I have a reason to be here beyond mongering.
I did have the thought that I might eventually meet a proper woman here, that would meet my superficial requirements in looks and age and also be kind, good hearted and reasonably intelligent. I've dated a few women along that vein but for different reasons it hasn't really worked out. Actually, in the 3 cases I can recall, I spent time and money (dinners, Pueblo visits, trip to Guatape, etc) and did not even get laid.
Meanwhile, I've had amazing times with the young semi pros I've met here on Tinder and Bumble, and lived out about every sexual fantasy imaginable. Last night one young Paisa I'm familiar with brought her friend over and I had an awesome time getting tag teamed by them last night and again this morning. Before they left they cleaned up my apartment. I gave them their 'gifts' and sent them on my way.
I then had a free Sunday, unencumbered to do some personal things, cook, chill and watch NFL. I think to myself, why the hell would I pursue any kind of proper relationship. I'm not giving this lifestyle up! This is why I got divorced! I think the romantic side in many of us may wonder if we could be truly happy in a committed, monogamous relationship. However, I think it's an unrealistic fantasy. Besides, from the fact we are all on this message board, I would think we all share a common aversion for monogamy and a strong interest in banging a variety hot young women.
I appreciate all the great info and insights on this board and will try to contribute more.
Cheers, Chiksika.
[QUOTE=Combo;2968211]The killer is also that most of the guys looking for a legitimate relationship are interacting with pros or semi-pros. That's not going to work. If you live there, if you speak Spanish, if you date non-hooker women that are within 15 years of your age, you can establish a legitimate LT relationship (pretty much like in the US or Europe).
Mixing mongering with trying to establish a LT relationship is hazardous.[/QUOTE]Excellent point.
You have to remember, a lot of men that come to sex tourist locations disproportionately are complete idiots and simps. I have seen women who sleep with 5 guys a week, get wifed up, even if only temporarily, with a loser who's been sending them 100's of dollars a week. And when their relationship collapses, because he finds out that she's still been sleeping with other guys on the side for extra money or has real Colombian boyfriend, the guy finds another prostitute to repeat the same process. Complete idiots, man. Picking a sex tourist destination for a wife is imbecilic behavior.
[QUOTE=ChikSika;2968255]I think to myself, why the hell would I pursue any kind of proper relationship. I'm not giving this lifestyle up! This is why I got divorced! I think the romantic side in many of us may wonder if we could be truly happy in a committed, monogamous relationship. [/QUOTE]Who says a committed relationship has to be monogamous?
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2968304]You have to remember, a lot of men that come to sex tourist locations disproportionately are complete idiots and simps. I have seen women who sleep with 5 guys a week, get wifed up, even if only temporarily, with a loser who's been sending them 100's of dollars a week. And when their relationship collapses, because he finds out that she's still been sleeping with other guys on the side for extra money or has real Colombian boyfriend, the guy finds another prostitute to repeat the same process. Complete idiots, man. Picking a sex tourist destination for a wife is imbecilic behavior.[/QUOTE]I do not see picking a sex tourist destination as being a problem to find a wife. The problem comes in who you are choosing to be your wife. If you have to send someone anywhere hundreds of dollars each week, then that should be your clue. In my experience a real girlfriend is not asking you to send her shit.
A couple of years ago in a facebook group for another country, a guy asked how much money should he give his girlfriend every month. Some people rattled of an amount. Very few people said if you have to give her money then she ain't your girlfriend. The guy finally reported back saying that he told the girl he would give her $300/ month. She told him that was not enough. Duh. That was because he was trying to rent a hooker long term instead of finding a chick that would be an actual help mate.
I am not trying to say there is a problem playing sugar daddy to a sugar baby, but don't pull the wool over your own eyes by calling the situation what it is not.
Most of the guys on this site are elderly gents who bang young hot pros. So it goes without saying that such guys willing to settle down will want to do so with young hot chicas. Even if the chicas are not pros the relationship will be fraught with difficulty. It would be interesting to know the success rate of such marriages.
Snoop said it best way back in the 90's. "you can't turn a hoe into a housewife. "
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2968160]Again, you are talking about a Medellin thing. I have never had a normal chick from another city that is not a hooker asking me about paying their bills or feeding their family or taking them away from it all. This is apples and bowling balls. Don't sign up for a hooker or someone to use you if that is not what you want.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2968415]Most of the guys on this site are elderly gents who bang young hot pros. So it goes without saying that such guys willing to settle down will want to do so with young hot chicas. Even if the chicas are not pros the relationship will be fraught with difficulty. It would be interesting to know the success rate of such marriages.[/QUOTE]Some of us are in our mid thirties.
[QUOTE=TradeMarc69;2967821]I won't get into too many details and just get straight to the point. So what started as just me and my girlfriend has now expanded into my girlfriend and some of her friends and her sisters friends and now I'm up to about 9 people and we all need a place to meet for a group session. I'm having a very difficult time finding a place for this encounter to occur. My girlfriends apartment is too small for such a thing to occur so it would need to be elsewhere. Does anyone have any good ideas here? I'm stuck. I don't see a hotel that would allow so many visitors.[/QUOTE]A zillion AirBnb places will handle you nicely and cost you less once you divide it by everyone.
[QUOTE=CK465;2967768]I know this is a mongering forum but has anybody really found a life partner in Colombia? I mean, going down there to find a potential wife is REALLY slim. Especially since cheating is accepted over there along with the high baby momma ratio but I personally would seek out a wife, a FWB or fuck buddy, but a wife, not so much. The closest that may make me fall in love is a Venezolana though. I've had zero issues with them and they treat me like a king as a black man. I don't dislike Paisas but those Vennies got me though. There a fat ass street MILF who goes by Chella and I see her on 60% of the walk videos on Youtube XD but she was an awesome both times.[/QUOTE]Interestingly enough, I discovered Medellin from a buddy in Florida who married a girl who used to work there (at the now closed Mansion) over 12-14 years ago. They were both into the swinging lifestyle, no kids, and I think that is key to their happiness too. 30 year age difference (he mid 60's, she mid 30's -- so they must have met when she was 18 and him in his late 40's / early 50's) and after 10 years together they were still like teenagers in love. They both jointly told me all about the Medellin scene (which they still fly back to often to play). So, you can find true love, but I think it has more to do with YOU than HER. I. E. It takes a certain personality to find the right woman and give her a life that is fulfilling in a way that keeps her and him satisfied. In their case was to become active in swinging, nudist, and such lifestyles. His and her 'party' world never ended after marriage.
[QUOTE=ChikSika;2968255]I've been coming to Medellin for the past 7 years now, post divorce from a really bad and largely sex-less marriage, and getting my kids into college. I eventually started a business here with an office to support my business and clients in the USA, which is going well, so now I have a reason to be here beyond mongering.
I did have the thought that I might eventually meet a proper woman here, that would meet my superficial requirements in looks and age and also be kind, good hearted and reasonably intelligent. I've dated a few women along that vein but for different reasons it hasn't really worked out. Actually, in the 3 cases I can recall, I spent time and money (dinners, Pueblo visits, trip to Guatape, etc) and did not even get laid.
Meanwhile, I've had amazing times with the young semi pros I've met here on Tinder and Bumble, and lived out about every sexual fantasy imaginable. Last night one young Paisa I'm familiar with brought her friend over and I had an awesome time getting tag teamed by them last night and again this morning. Before they left they cleaned up my apartment. I gave them their 'gifts' and sent them on my way.
Cheers, Chiksika.[/QUOTE]You already had kids, so you likely have no reason to be in a "committed relationship" with anyone. Seems like the perfect situation.
[QUOTE=CK465;2967768]I know this is a mongering forum but has anybody really found a life partner in Colombia? I mean, going down there to find a potential wife is REALLY slim. Especially since cheating is accepted over there along with the high baby momma ratio but I personally would seek out a wife, a FWB or fuck buddy, but a wife, not so much. The closest that may make me fall in love is a Venezolana though. I've had zero issues with them and they treat me like a king as a black man. I don't dislike Paisas but those Vennies got me though. There a fat ass street MILF who goes by Chella and I see her on 60% of the walk videos on Youtube XD but she was an awesome both times.[/QUOTE]I've been with the same Colombian woman for 19 years, we have a child together and she is a wonderful woman, she is 40 and I'm 67. It is not a monogamous relationship on my end, not sure on her end. I couldn't be happier.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2968423]Some of us are in our mid thirties.[/QUOTE]Therefore, some of you have a wider pool of non gold diggers to choose from.
Why would you want a life partner in the Pussylandia!! Just kidding! A life partner is a long commitment. How about just a girlfriend? Dude, you are in MDE. The odds of you getting a life partner are slim to none. Try exploring other lesser-known cities that don't have a lot of passport-bro's. Then you will have better luck making a real connection. Isn't that basically what you are looking for?
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2968521]I've been with the same Colombian woman for 19 years. We have a child together, and she is a wonderful woman, she is 40, and I'm 67. It is not a monogamous relationship on my end, not sure on her end. I couldn't be happier.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2968755]Why would you want a life partner in the Pussylandia!! Just kidding! A life partner is a long commitment. How about just a girlfriend? Dude, you are in MDE. The odds of you getting a life partner are slim to none. Try exploring other lesser-known cities that don't have a lot of passport-bro's. Then you will have better luck making a real connection. Isn't that basically what you are looking for?[/QUOTE]I live in Manizales but travel to Medellin every few weeks to see my sugar babies, trust me life is very good. The life partner thing is to give our daughter a family environment, which is important in a country where too many children grow up without it.
I can dig it, brah! I have never been to Manizales. I've been to Pereira, though, and had a decent time.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2968761]I live in Manizales but travel to Medellin every few weeks to see my sugar babies, trust me life is very good. The life partner thing is to give our daughter a family environment, which is important in a country where too many children grow up without it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2968779]I can dig it, brah! I have never been to Manizales. I've been to Pereira, though, and had a decent time.[/QUOTE]I went to Manizales in August. The van ticket from Pereira was 17,000 pesos and took a little over 1 hour if I remember correctly. The Indrive from the airport in Pereira to the bus station was 10,000 pesos. Manizales is a beautiful city and had good weather when I was there. It is in the mountains and everything is built on hills. I was told the flights there are limited because it rains a lot, which makes the airport flood and closes it down anyway. Looks like a great place to live if you have a lady or family. Excellent food too.
Friends and associates.
I'm planning a trip to Medellin in the spring— likely April / May which I understand can be a rainy period. I don't mind a bit of rain, so I think I can tolerate it and ideally it will make things less busy on the tourist side of things.
I plan to stay in El Poblado / Provenza. Everything seems very close and convenient so it probably is splitting hairs going for one or the other.
Ideally a 4 or 5 star Hotel— I love a nice hotel and it's something I'm willing to shell-out for. Europa suites and Haven look promising. The places with Jaccuzzis etc are tempting as I love a soak. How are the tubs received by chicas in your experience? Do the 5 star spots like the Marquee and the Charlie shut down any chica guests?
I've found that my favorite way to hobby is to have a chica back to my hotel room for extended play 1+ hours or TLN.
How would you, personally, go about pulling girls in Medellin for that type of interaction? Would you go straight to the classifieds (photoprepagos, pasionprepagos), the agencies (lacelestina, eroticas, etc), walk over to Lleras park and meet a few, hit the clubs (gustos, glow, etc), or strip clubs? Can I chill out with some beers and a hookah and wait for the park girls to come to me?
I love being able to see the options in front of me and feel like multiple girls are vying for my attention (let's be honest, However the clubs give me the impression of being high-effort but I love a quick negotiation and back to my room.
I'm leery of Tinder / SA / Facebook as my anonymity is a premium, and Tinder seems to have a rep for being unsafe.
Thanks in advance for sharing your experience and wisdom.
-Frank.
[QUOTE=FrankWyke;2968793]Friends and associates.
I'm planning a trip to Medellin in the spring likely April / May which I understand can be a rainy period. I don't mind a bit of rain, so I think I can tolerate it and ideally it will make things less busy on the tourist side of things.
I plan to stay in El Poblado / Provenza. Everything seems very close and convenient so it probably is splitting hairs going for one or the other.
Ideally a 4 or 5 star Hotel I love a nice hotel and it's something I'm willing to shell-out for. Europa suites and Haven look promising. The places with Jaccuzzis etc are tempting as I love a soak. How are the tubs received by chicas in your experience? Do the 5 star spots like the Marquee and the Charlie shut down any chica guests?
I've found that my favorite way to hobby is to have a chica back to my hotel room for extended play 1+ hours or TLN..[/QUOTE]How about you read the forum? 100's of pages explain all of this. You're asking how to find ice cream in an ice cream store. These women sleep with several guys a day. Any of the things you said works. This place is currently being overrun foreigners. BTW literally any of the girls can rob you from the venues you've mentioned. It's Colombia, gringos get their bank accounts robbed and wiped out everyday.
[QUOTE=FrankWyke;2968793] I'm planning a trip to Medellin in the spring likely April / May which I understand can be a rainy period. I don't mind a bit of rain, so I think I can tolerate it and ideally it will make things less busy on the tourist side of things.[/QUOTE]Rain is never that strong and having been there all times of the year, I've learned it just can't be predicted properly. Rainy season can be dry and dry season can be rainy. It is never THAT intense for too long, so just bring a light waterproof jacket (like those light waterproof jackets they make for joggers) and you are fine. Sometimes if it rains 5-7 PM that can thin out the evening, but that's it.
[QUOTE=FrankWyke;2968793]I plan to stay in El Poblado / Provenza. Everything seems very close and convenient so it probably is splitting hairs going for one or the other.[/QUOTE]Provenza is a small (very small) section of Poblado.
[QUOTE=FrankWyke;2968793]How are the tubs received by chicas in your experience?[/QUOTE]They love them.
[QUOTE=FrankWyke;2968793]How would you, personally, go about pulling girls in Medellin for that type of interaction? Would you go straight to the classifieds (photoprepagos, pasionprepagos), the agencies (lacelestina, eroticas, etc), walk over to Lleras park and meet a few, hit the clubs (gustos, glow, etc), or strip clubs? Can I chill out with some beers and a hookah and wait for the park girls to come to me?[/QUOTE]I look forward to your post on how you got drugged and robbed. Kidding aside, you really need to dig deeper into the forum to have a better plan.
[QUOTE=FrankWyke;2968793]I love being able to see the options in front of me and feel like multiple girls are vying for my attention (let's be honest, However the clubs give me the impression of being high-effort but I love a quick negotiation and back to my room.[/QUOTE]The best interactions for me are to get their number and make a date another night. Same-night interactions are pricier in my experience.
Best time in Medellin. Providers are out needing money for the holidays. Best ratio. Just be safe as ratas are out robbing too.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2968521]I've been with the same Colombian woman for 19 years, we have a child together and she is a wonderful woman, she is 40 and I'm 67. It is not a monogamous relationship on my end, not sure on her end. I couldn't be happier.[/QUOTE]This is probably a pretty sweet deal. Wife is okay with you having excursions, and you have some sense of stability for once you need it. As long as you are still in full control of your finances I guess there is very little downside to this.
[QUOTE=FrankWyke;2968793]The places with Jaccuzzis etc are tempting as I love a soak. How are the tubs received by chicas in your experience? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2968959]They love them.[/QUOTE]You seriously think that? You are doing that shit for you, not for them. As the other poster said, these women sleep with several guys per day. Do you think they are really excited for a jacuzzi after having been in one 2 times that day already before she came to you and probably 20 times in the past week? They quickly understand that it is just part of the job that some monger is going to want them to get in.
It is like hiring a party planner. You see it as the time of your life because how often is it that you have a party? But them, they go to parties every day, seeing it is their job to do so. So what is the big deal for them? There is not one.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2968965]Best time in Medellin. Providers are out needing money for the holidays. Best ratio. Just be safe as ratas are out robbing too.[/QUOTE]I've always wanted to celebrate Christmas in Colombia as my Colombian friends here in the US told me to go and try it once. For me the risk factor is just not worth it, out of all the months in calendar year, I avoid going to Colombia especially Medellin, during December. I barely know anyone there except for the girls I've spent time with. Even though I've known them for years and see them regularly whenever I visit. I still keep my guard up and never fully trust them. I treat them like I am meeting them for the first time, cause you never know when they will do you bad (not saying they will, but better be safe than sorry) and most of them likes to play the long game now.
[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2969094]I've always wanted to celebrate Christmas in Colombia as my Colombian friends here in the US told me to go and try it once. For me the risk factor is just not worth it, out of all the months in calendar year, I avoid going to Colombia especially Medellin, during December. I barely know anyone there except for the girls I've spent time with. Even though I've known them for years and see them regularly whenever I visit. I still keep my guard up and never fully trust them. I treat them likeT I am meeting them for the first time, cause you never know when they will do you bad (not saying they will, but better be safe than sorry) and most of them likes to play the long game now.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you. We are walking ATMs for the. Just tap us whenever they need, not when we need. I don't trust them either.
[QUOTE=LR123;2967698]
4) Prepagos: I'm quite intrigued by this. Prices seem reasonable, ladies look lovely and do answer to an agency. Seems like a good bet. But minimal reports on the ISG re: using these services. I use agencies frequently in my travels, so am a bit concerned that this isn't commonly used in MDE. Any reason why?
[/QUOTE]There is nothing fundamentally wrong with the Online Escort Agency scene that isn't present in any other place, but it has the same issues you'll see elsewhere.
1) Higher prices. You pay higher prices for the "simplicity" of a safer, point-and-click interface if you use the agencies.
2) Professional. You are more likely to get a standard floor to your experience but you are also more likely to get a cookie-cutter, by-the-numbers session.
3) Girl Quality. The better agencies will do less photo manipulation and will not bait-and-switch you, but some guys are expecting some 10/10 model to show up and aren't realistic about who will actually show up. It's sometimes better to see the girls first before ordering.
Overall, it's fine to make use of it if you're less price sensitive, lazy, and / or ordering during off-hours (like early afternoon), but you shouldn't expect the girls to hang around longer than the time you have booked for and should expect something a bit more business-like. If you're looking for a more chill experience, then book for a longer duration or do the face-to-face pick up at Lleras (or whatever pickup location you budget for / like) for TLN.
[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2969094]I've always wanted to celebrate Christmas in Colombia as my Colombian friends here in the US told me to go and try it once. For me the risk factor is just not worth it, out of all the months in calendar year, I avoid going to Colombia especially Medellin, during December. I barely know anyone there except for the girls I've spent time with. Even though I've known them for years and see them regularly whenever I visit. I still keep my guard up and never fully trust them. I treat them like I am meeting them for the first time, cause you never know when they will do you bad (not saying they will, but better be safe than sorry) and most of them likes to play the long game now.[/QUOTE]I've been spending Christmas and New Years in MDE for the past 5 years and simply put, I love it! I can see why many are apprehensive about being here during this time due to increased crime and girls flaking out with family events. And if you're a newbie, it's definitely one of the worst times to go, but for me it's the best time. I speak the language, immersed in the culture, and have done many barrio parties and family outings with chicas in Aranjuez, Buenos Aires, Manrique, and even up in Popular. And that's without even mentioning the North side. I've known a lot of the chicas for years (pre-Covid) and some I don't even mess with anymore, but they're fun to hang out with and would hook me up with new and cute barrio chicas that need some gringo money and I'll say to them, take my money honey! Better get them now before they turn jaded and spoiled by the passport bros / weekend warriors / poblado papis.
BTW, I'm a fellow chino, in my 40's, and can pass as 30's. I definitely don't blend in and don't expect to be treated as a local. I'll always be the typical "gringo with money" to the barrio folks, but they're friendly, fun and filled with a thirst for guaro and I'm here for it! I love it when the grandmas introduce me to their fellow barrio neighbors and almost always there's a young hottie to meet. Don't get me wrong, I still hang out in Poblado / Lauleres spots for a nice dinner date, and as matter of fact those were the places I exclusively stayed at my first couple years here (before the gringo gold rush) and I've been coming here for over 10 years.
In closing, I just read a couple reports about the recent pricing out in Parque Lleras and the strip clubs. And it's crazy what the going rates are now. I'm just glad it doesn't affect what I pay and who I pay because I hunt in a whole different way. For those here right now, enjoy the 'hoe'lidays!
[QUOTE=TropicanGeorge;2969008]This is probably a pretty sweet deal. Wife is okay with you having excursions, and you have some sense of stability for once you need it. As long as you are still in full control of your finances I guess there is very little downside to this.[/QUOTE]One thing my dad always told me, imagine what your doing behind her back and triple that to what's she up too, I wonder if they have a baby sitter while there running around town trying to outdo each other LOL 😆!
How would you say in Spanish "Jerk me off a little bit. "?
[QUOTE=VW1936;2969321]How would you say in Spanish "Jerk me off a little bit. "?[/QUOTE]I would hold out a $100 bill and move the lady's hand onto my cock. Its easier than trying to learn the Spanish phrases.
[QUOTE=VW1936;2969321]How would you say in Spanish "Jerk me off a little bit. "?[/QUOTE]"Dame una paja" (give me a hand job).
Arriving December 23 to Medellin by way of Thailand. Booked at guest friendly spot right near Hotel Dix. I'm a 35 year old gringo here in my first trip. Unfortunately my Spanish sucks and the mansion is no more. Would have been great guard rails for me.
I'm here to take some lessons, do some work online, not a huge partier but wanted to know if there was a preferred monger route for those of us with a low risk tolerance. I read the forums and looks like agencies are hit or miss on honesty and quality but safe in terms of risk.
For someone like me I think parque lleras girls seem super high risk. Tinder seems like a minefield and not risking that either. But I'the be curious if anyone knows is Seeking is as dangerous as tinder has been mentioned to be?
Seems like a ton of the risk lies around bringing a girl to your place.
I'the be curious to get a gauge on what people think the risk levels are in terms of Fase, isla, energy, or even gusto is for someone new with weak Spanish? I think I can guess the answer but would love to hear anyways. If anyone is in Medellin Dec-Jan and wants to show me the ways of the force, feel free to DM me. Drinks on me.
[QUOTE=TheNakedIndian;2969641]Arriving December 23 to Medellin by way of Thailand. Booked at guest friendly spot right near Hotel Dix. I'm a 35 year old gringo here in my first trip. Unfortunately my Spanish sucks and the mansion is no more. Would have been great guard rails for me.
I'm here to take some lessons, do some work online, not a huge partier but wanted to know if there was a preferred monger route for those of us with a low risk tolerance. I read the forums and looks like agencies are hit or miss on honesty and quality but safe in terms of risk.
For someone like me I think parque lleras girls seem super high risk. Tinder seems like a minefield and not risking that either. But I'the be curious if anyone knows is Seeking is as dangerous as tinder has been mentioned to be?
Seems like a ton of the risk lies around bringing a girl to your place.
I'the be curious to get a gauge on what people think the risk levels are in terms of Fase, isla, energy, or even gusto is for someone new with weak Spanish? I think I can guess the answer but would love to hear anyways. If anyone is in Medellin Dec-Jan and wants to show me the ways of the force, feel free to DM me. Drinks on me.[/QUOTE]Your question has a easy answer. Stick to the Casas. Another bonus is the prices at the casas are set and you don't get Gringo pricing. I have done all you have talked about and the only place I have had zero problems is in the Cento Casas.
[QUOTE=TheNakedIndian;2969641]I'the be curious to get a gauge on what people think the risk levels are in terms of Fase, isla, energy, or even gusto is for someone new with weak Spanish? I think I can guess the answer but would love to hear anyways. If anyone is in Medellin Dec-Jan and wants to show me the ways of the force, feel free to DM me. Drinks on me.[/QUOTE]The safety risk level at Fase II, Energy, and Isla is practically zero, very safe. The risk of getting the service you want is probably 50/50. You can negotiate services with the ladies at Fase II and Isla before taking them, but that still isn't a guarantee you'll get what you negotiate for. Gusto's is part of the Parque Lleras crowd. I don't trust any of them. I rely on Facebook for contacts, but you don't have enough time to get established in Facebook.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2969699] You can negotiate services with the ladies at Fase II and Isla before taking them, but that still isn't a guarantee you'll get what you negotiate for.[/QUOTE]You may think you are a savvy businessman by negotiating price, but the women are cutting back on services, in their mind. So if you want to be a cheap Charlie, then get the women to cut their price. In their mind they will leave early, be mechanical, fail to perform oral sex, or cut something out. These women have a brain too. So if you offer a lower price you will get a lesser service.
Sometimes its better just to walk away and say too much. Demasiado! And get another girl who may not be as attractive. There are no guarantees in this hobby. And if the girls were that great, some rich Sultan from Arabia would have taken them already and the girls would not be plying their trade for some quick cash.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2969706]You may think you are a savvy businessman by negotiating price, but the women are cutting back on services, in their mind. So if you want to be a cheap Charlie, then get the women to cut their price. [/QUOTE]We negotiate. You can read more in the thread. BTW, my old recommendation was 50% but now even that is too much. LOL
[QUOTE=Nounce;2961777]Don't wait for the girl to give you the price because we know she is likely going to try to scam you first. Instead, offer them 600 to scam them first[/QUOTE]
Adding some context here. The girl is unlikely to accept that amount. It is only used to tell girl you know how it works to get the girl to be realistic. Even if she accepts, the minimal cost will be 200 USD for 1 hour, including the room that is 50 USD. These are rough numbers because BRL depreciated about 20% recently. There are men that pay the full ask which likely would be more than 400.
More context, lol. The girls in the club in my post used to ask 500 more or less when I started going but it has all changed. Nowadays, the girls will ask for even 3000. Sounds familiar?
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2969706]You may think you are a savvy businessman by negotiating price, ...[/QUOTE]Where in my post, since you quoted it, did I say anything about negotiating price?
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2969706]You may think you are a savvy businessman by negotiating price, but the women are cutting back on services, in their mind. So if you want to be a cheap Charlie, then get the women to cut their price. In their mind they will leave early, be mechanical, fail to perform oral sex, or cut something out. These women have a brain too. So if you offer a lower price you will get a lesser service.
[/QUOTE]I am a negotiating fool and have never had something like this happen. And I start off by introducing myself as Mr. Cheap Charlie. Would you care to share some reports of when it has happened to you, or are you just imagining that if A, then be?
There was a guy that posted a report here about taking the girl of his dreams for 1 million pesos. He said it was the worst service he had in his life. Let you tell it, he should have offered 1,200,000 pesos to get her to fuck better. Most of the time people just fuck how they know to fuck and it has nothing to do with the price they are being paid.
Can anyone with recent experience at San Peter in Laureles drop a brief review? I enjoy the bar connected to it and I usually stay very close by in Laureles. I love the area. Curious about air conditioning and most importantly guest policy. I have heard good things but hoping for more stories good or bad. PM if you wish, thanks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2968085]The same reason I will never buy a phone for a chick just for her to meet and talk to other guys with. The only thing I am sinking into a woman is this dick.[/QUOTE]LOL! You are legend my old friend! I hope all is well.
My boy is down there. He hunts Centro. Action, $20-$25 (USD). Here are a few pics he has sent me.
Its been a fun month here, lots of concerts, the alumbrados, the chivas, the parties. Everyone in a festive fun mood and the girls are everywhere. Lots of nice hot girls that are nonpros. You just need to get out of the casas, the strip clubs and parque lleras.
[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2969827]Can anyone with recent experience at San Peter in Laureles drop a brief review? I enjoy the bar connected to it and I usually stay very close by in Laureles. I love the area. Curious about air conditioning and most importantly guest policy. I have heard good things but hoping for more stories good or bad. PM if you wish, thanks.[/QUOTE]They will check all ID and photocopy if for all guests. The AC works. I found the area really noisy all night and difficult to sleep.
Great time to visit, horrible time to live here.
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;2969928]Its been a fun month here, lots of concerts, the alumbrados, the chivas, the parties. Everyone in a festive fun mood and the girls are everywhere. Lots of nice hot girls that are nonpros. You just need to get out of the casas, the strip clubs and parque lleras.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2969706]You may think you are a savvy businessman by negotiating price, but the women are cutting back on services, in their mind. [/QUOTE]Yes, I agree. When the sexy young woman wants 600 K and you offer her 300,000 pesos she is thinking she has to hurry back and do another Cheap Charlie for another 300 k pesos. So she is watching her clock and cutting the time and benefits in half.
You get all the services you pay for, not the ones you do not pay for.
Some of you Cheap Charlies are on pensions and probably cannot afford the airfare.
[QUOTE=Giz99;2969933]I found the area really noisy all night and difficult to sleep.[/QUOTE]It is definitely very noisy. When I stayed in San Peter Suites it was on a top floor and the noise from La 70 was still loud like the windows were paper thin. Lots of music, singing and traffic noise all night and into the early morning. I do like that San Peter Suites is very close to Exito SuperMarket. It is very convenient in that regard.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2969706]You may think you are a savvy businessman by negotiating price, but the women are cutting back on services, in their mind. So if you want to be a cheap Charlie, then get the women to cut their price. In their mind they will leave early, be mechanical, fail to perform oral sex, or cut something out. These women have a brain too. So if you offer a lower price you will get a lesser service.
Sometimes its better just to walk away and say too much. Demasiado! And get another girl who may not be as attractive. There are no guarantees in this hobby. And if the girls were that great, some rich Sultan from Arabia would have taken them already and the girls would not be plying their trade for some quick cash.[/QUOTE]It goes like this; the savvy businessmen may think they got good service for the price they paid. That is all well and good. However, what they may not know is that they would have gotten better service for the price she asked. These girls are not fools.
[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2969827]Can anyone with recent experience at San Peter in Laureles drop a brief review? I enjoy the bar connected to it and I usually stay very close by in Laureles. I love the area. Curious about air conditioning and most importantly guest policy. I have heard good things but hoping for more stories good or bad. PM if you wish, thanks.[/QUOTE]I haven't stayed there in years but it was solid for the price. Those that are familiar know it as hooker hotel as it's almost all Airbnb guests and was very guest friendly when I stayed. They copied the girls seeédula at the desk but a different girl everyday with no issues. I like the location too, but I now stay a little further away from 70 for a little more peace and tranquility. Air conditioning was fine in the room I stayed in.
This is a classic case of an experiment that is impossible to replicate for many reasons. So we will go back and forth with no clear solution. I think a lot of them will be happy with a lower rate if it's close to fair value (at least they aren't making less than their amigas). What can help your case is being clear you repeat and are looking for regulars. What also helps is just vibe. Chicks stick around and perform better if they are having fun, if you can talk to them, if they feel more comfortable with you.
Hard to directly compare but I've been to a couple expat parties before with prepagos. I remember one where as the only one who spoke Spanish, all the girls were flocking around me and bantering with me while another 5 guys, including full time expats were awkwardly watching. We joked around and talked about sex among other things and that translated to great service with the girls I pulled at the party. By great service I mean GFE, kissing and stuff like CIM s well as unsolicited raw with one girl for no upcharge. Now only the girls would know if they gave worse service to the other guys who didn't speak Spanish or have the same ability to flirt and banter that I did.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2969706]You may think you are a savvy businessman by negotiating price, but the women are cutting back on services, in their mind. So if you want to be a cheap Charlie, then get the women to cut their price. In their mind they will leave early, be mechanical, fail to perform oral sex, or cut something out. These women have a brain too. So if you offer a lower price you will get a lesser service.
Sometimes its better just to walk away and say too much. Demasiado! And get another girl who may not be as attractive. There are no guarantees in this hobby. And if the girls were that great, some rich Sultan from Arabia would have taken them already and the girls would not be plying their trade for some quick cash.[/QUOTE]
I heard this catchy little tune on the radio today. Thought the bros who love Medellin would appreciate it:
[URL]https://youtu.be/EaIh7tRqdqM?si=nsUsffDGRcVvR2Cq[/URL]
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2970020]Yes, I agree. When the sexy young woman wants 600 K and you offer her 300,000 pesos she is thinking she has to hurry back and do another Cheap Charlie for another 300 k pesos. So she is watching her clock and cutting the time and benefits in half.
You get all the services you pay for, not the ones you do not pay for.
Some of you Cheap Charlies are on pensions and probably cannot afford the airfare.[/QUOTE]For hardened pros yes, but many semi-pros will be happy with 200 mil and will give the full GFE experience. I've actually found the more you overpay the less. Colombian women relish taking all your money for very little. This idea that the more you pay the better the service will be is American thinking.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2970325]This idea that the more you pay the better the service will be is American thinking.[/QUOTE]You mean Simp Thinking.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2970282]I heard this catchy little tune on the radio today. Thought the bros who love Medellin would appreciate it:
[URL]https://youtu.be/EaIh7tRqdqM?si=nsUsffDGRcVvR2Cq[/URL][/QUOTE]That song has been out since January 2022. It's a bit old now but it is a good song.
I'm in Pattaya now and I will just make a few comments. If you like watching NFL football, it's much more difficult to watch it here due to the time difference. Have to get up at 1:00 am On Monday to watch the early game and then the next game is 4:30 am.
Many more options here and it is much easier for last minute sex for a reasonable price.
As for the girls, my general opinion is that there are young attractive girls available in both places but there are also a lot of older average looking girls in Pattaya. As you guys know, Pattaya is very popular with male tourists and if you think Medellin has a lot of tourists, it is nothing compared to Pattaya.
As for sex with young attractive girls, Medellin is actually just as good as Pattaya if not better and it's much closer.
But when it comes to food, Thailand is so much better than Columbia and every day I look forward to eating here.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2970359]I'm in Pattaya now and I will just make a few comments. If you like watching NFL football, it's much more difficult to watch it here due to the time difference. Have to get up at 1:00 am On Monday to watch the early game and then the next game is 4:30 am.
Many more options here and it is much easier for last minute sex for a reasonable price.
As for the girls, my general opinion is that there are young attractive girls available in both places but there are also a lot of older average looking girls in Pattaya. As you guys know, Pattaya is very popular with male tourists and if you think Medellin has a lot of tourists, it is nothing compared to Pattaya.
As for sex with young attractive girls, Medellin is actually just as good as Pattaya if not better and it's much closer.
But when it comes to food, Thailand is so much better than Columbia and every day I look forward to eating here.[/QUOTE]Overall between Medellin and Pattaya which city would you rate over the other?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2970466]Overall between Medellin and Pattaya which city would you rate over the other?[/QUOTE]For most guys, Pattaya is much easier in terms of everything and the food is great and you don't have to do that much research at all. It's much safer than Medellin and you don't have to worry when it's late at night and the street is isolated. There are no stories of girls drugging and robbing you. You can get by just speaking English because the city is catered to foreigners and everyone wants to make money so they all can speak enough English.
That being said, it's a long flight, it's hot year round, most of the girls are full-time workers and have high volume, there are a lot of older girls here along with average looking girls. And the young slim pretty 18 to 21-year-old girls are in high demand in Pattaya and have a lot of customers. That is actually not the case with young pretty girls on Facebook in Medellin because most are semi-pros and just work when they want to work and they are a bit lazy.
No reason to choose, I visit both places and so can you.
After reading the last few pages up till December 15th ish, talking about marrying a paisa etc to Pattaya comparisons. Maybe my experience can help at least one person enjoy their experience (s).
Afro Pattaya, and NFLwith the time difference. I had NBA league pass when I lived in Colombia I put it on the option where I can't see the final scores and watch it recorded. So try that.
As for marrying a paisa. I remember when I first went back in 2012. Zero Spanish. Did Colombian Cupid etc. You definitely need the language. Cultural norms takes time to get and local friends is a big plus. Back then, from what I've heard, if a woman travelled at all to panama for any kind of work, it's code for P4 P. Today I am sure it's different. Photos on Instagram on lavish trips, expensive purses etc and no photos of her friends in those trips. Of course, webcamming and OF wasn't a thing. That's another hurdle today for those seeking a traditional woman for a wife.
The moral compass is different for them. You can see religious paintings in their houses from the photos or on their tattoos, that might mean something to someone whose family is religious and you will say to yourself, ohhh my sweet aunt has those same photos. But not in Colombia. It's a different world there. Your guard goes down and voila, bad things can happen.
As for the simps. They will marry the guys who make it rain in the strip club or send them money, but those don't last. If she wants you, she will make your life easier. Peace!
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2970359]I'm in Pattaya now and I will just make a few comments. If you like watching NFL football, it's much more difficult to watch it here due to the time difference. Have to get up at 1:00 am On Monday to watch the early game and then the next game is 4:30 am.
Many more options here and it is much easier for last minute sex for a reasonable price.
As for the girls, my general opinion is that there are young attractive girls available in both places but there are also a lot of older average looking girls in Pattaya. As you guys know, Pattaya is very popular with male tourists and if you think Medellin has a lot of tourists, it is nothing compared to Pattaya.
As for sex with young attractive girls, Medellin is actually just as good as Pattaya if not better and it's much closer.
But when it comes to food, Thailand is so much better than Columbia and every day I look forward to eating here.[/QUOTE]Get youtube TV. It allows for unlimited recording. It is not allowed to be used outside the USA, but if you use GhostVPN and the Brave browser, you can watch games anywhere on your schedule. If you use the key plays feature, which is available on tablets, phones, and video game consoles but not PCs, you can watch football games in 10 minutes.
With all this, you can watch whatever you want on your schedule.
With movies, you can download all subttiles here, [URL]https://www.opensubtitles.org/en/search/subs[/URL].
Even if you cannot find a subtitle in your chosen language, you can translate from one language to any other here: [URL]https://subtitlestranslator.com/en/[/URL].
I use the POT player to watch movies. It allows for two subtitles to be viewed. So if you watch say a Japanese movie with a Thai chick, you can have the audio be in Japanese and have both English and Thai subtitiles.
[QUOTE=Tudman;2970567]Back then, from what I've heard, if a woman travelled at all to panama for any kind of work, it's code for P4 P.[/QUOTE]Well you heard wrong. I have two ex-girlfriends who have been in Panama since that time. One is a hair stylist and the other works in a factory. I also know Colombians that go shopping in Panama. Maybe if a hooker traveled to Panama for any kind of work then it would be code for P4 P.
This was the shortest and worst trip to Medellin that I have. It was my 12th trip and things came up and forgot to post. I found it while setting up a new laptop. Some folks find them useful and a couple new things came up. So, I will post what happened.
Day 1.
I am coming from west coast SFO. I have tried a few airlines that service Colombia / MDE. My first few trips were with Avianca. I don't like them poor seats, food service and entertainment are poor. The only upside flying Avianca is that it lands into Bogota / BOG. I find that going through customs on "Legacy" or country's leading airline much easier. They go through much of the red tape when you are checking in. It's been 3 years since I have used them. The other airline I used was American. The only benefit I got from therm is that I didn't have schlep up to SFO a 40 minute drive. Instead, It was a 10 minute Uber ride and I could leave my car at home. I also preferred MIA over FLL but that's all. These folks at American overbook on purpose. If you have all of the time in the world upon return you can get flight credits easily. Otherwise, they were always late when returning home. It didn't make sense that MIA was down but FLL was clear for JetBlue.
I settled on JetBlue and have made it to the Mosaic status. They are not even in the ballpark compared to Saudia Airlines.
To make a long story short I missed my 10:30 pm flight. I got a message at 2 pm that my flight would be delayed until 11 pm. Two hors later it was set back to midnight. I did not want to hang out in crappy $3. 30 for a can of soda SFO airport. I got there at 10 pm and could not print my ticket. The problem: the flight was boarding since 10 pm.
Day 2.
Having missed my flight and a full day in Medellin I arrived at the airport MDE and lost my CPAP machine while collecting my luggage. It only took me 10 minutes to get through immigration / customs but I was so stressed. That is what ruined my trip. I was not able to sleep without my machine. I was too tired and off to fuck. The reason that I was there.
I usually see 4 to 5 women at my Airbnb in Laureles. There are 2 places I reserve (No, I won't tell you where!
I invited Sophia over to my Airbnb. I got her off of Seeking from my second visit to MDE. There's no pretense with "dates. " She comes over and we fuck. I am not a "big" guy but Sophia has a small pussy. She's early 20's blonde barbie type no tatts. She looks like of those So-Cal blondes at the local state university. All of encounters are bare.
Day 3.
I was to tired and off to visit my favorite place. I love going to Plaza Botero during the day. Lots of hot Vennies there asking for 50 k. Yes, many of girls there and much older women are non-lookers but you can have a beer and watch.
I was talking to a bunch of girls just in case I needed a back up. I was able to get this girl off Seeking named Natalia. She's a 24 year old brunette about 5'6" 125 lbs. I got her some Victoria's Secret lingerie to wear for me. I took pics like I usually do and she was getting into it. Natalia speaks flawless English. Sometimes that's not a good thing. She was asking a lot of questions that I wasn't prepared to answer. Like, "when was the last time you had sex?" Before I could answer she smiled and said "probably yesterday. ".
We got into action she left her lingerie on but it wasn't crotchless. I made an opening and we able to do different positions. I was tired and came into her pussy. She went to take a shower. She asked me come to come into bathroom. She said was holding bottom part of the black lingerie and said "feel it. " It was soaked in cum like it was drenched. LOL.
She asked me to come into the shower with her and when we were done I walked her out.
Day-4.
I went to Plazo Botero at 2 pm. That's much later than I normally go. I didn't see much quality on this day. What I have noticed is that the hot girls don't last here. If you see something you like it my be best to put your name on it if possible. After an hour, I went back to the Airbnb in Laureles. I was chatting with a few regulars and prospect to see who could come over. One of my favorite flacitas Karen (Karen_rua23) was out of town. She's better in person. I was surprised to get a message from Laura. The last time I saw her she was mad at me for fucking other women. I don't know what led to just ask me out of the blue. She agreed to come but not until later.
I had time to kill so I went to Parque Lleras. It's ok there but I rarely pull anything out of there. There are more women out there but dressed somewhat more conservative (evening wear) I have noticed less of police presence in Parque Lleras and especially Botero. I got an Uber back to Laureles.
I was feeling sluggish not having a cpap. Then, I got a text from Laura asking me to send an Uber. I didn't feel like fucking but had her come over. When Laura arrived she really good. Lost some weight more toned from working out. She's in her 20's which makes me 30 years older. Laura seeks English very well just like Nataiia. We were watching Love After Lockup on the couch that is at the foot of the king sized bed.
It appeared that Laura got over me fucking around. I came across Laura's profile on a social media site by happenstance and it states that she is looking for girls only. I guess that would explain why she complain about guys from the barrio staring at her.
We are on the couch talking for 30 minutes and she draped her leg over mine. I didn't feel like sex. We went to the bed. We we went to the bed and she sucked me for the longest time. I told her that I was going to come and she hummed "un -huh" and swallowed all of my come. That's an upgrade from what I have received before. I got out bed and tripped looking for my pants.
I was too tired to do anymore.
Day 5.
A wasted day with back home problems and oversleeping.
Day 6.
I asked Laura to come over. I was also talking to this girl Sandra that I had met on a previous trip. She was a good fuck but was argumentive about the rate that we had agreed to. I pay 250 k cop to 400 cop. She wanted 600 k and offered cip since she had a hysterectomy. I told her it was too much of hassle the last time. For example, no pics at all. She offered to let video our meetings. It was still a hard no.
When Laura came over that night it was a better visit. I felt better but in round 2 I came in her pussy. That's what I normally do but I guess she since she's done with college she isn't on birth control. She didn't say anything until we were in the lobby while I was walking her out. She looked over her shoulder and asked if she should take "Day After"? I was scared and said yes.
Day 7.
Last night in Medellin. I had Margot come over. She is much older than the girls I normally see. She's a 47 yr old brunette no tatts no kids. She's like the soccer mom you want to bang. I like seeing Margot on a weekend night. It's a very good take all the time you need and empty your pipes. I kind of get that with Laura but she works everyday. I am able to get a couple of shots in with Margot. She lets me shoot my cum into mouth and swallows it. When I miss a squirt a shot she gets bothered.
What I have noticed is that immigration at Colombia wants to know your whereabouts. Unless you have family there you must find a place to stay before you go and have the reservation available when you arrive. I had noticed that my Airbnb had a created a form that was sent to immigration.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2970485]For most guys, Pattaya is much easier in terms of everything and the food is great and you don't have to do that much research at all. It's much safer than Medellin and you don't have to worry when it's late at night and the street is isolated. There are no stories of girls drugging and robbing you. You can get by just speaking English because the city is catered to foreigners and everyone wants to make money so they all can speak enough English.
That being said, it's a long flight, it's hot year round, most of the girls are full-time workers and have high volume, there are a lot of older girls here along with average looking girls. And the young slim pretty 18 to 21-year-old girls are in high demand in Pattaya and have a lot of customers. That is actually not the case with young pretty girls on Facebook in Medellin because most are semi-pros and just work when they want to work and they are a bit lazy.
No reason to choose, I visit both places and so can you.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I have visited both places and know Medellin very well but Pattaya not so much. Good to get the perspective of someone who is more familiar with Pattaya.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2970637]... What I have noticed is that immigration at Colombia wants to know your whereabouts. Unless you have family there you must find a place to stay before you go and have the reservation available when you arrive. I had noticed that my Airbnb had a created a form that was sent to immigration.[/QUOTE]I always fill out the Check Mig thing online before going and leaving. Most of the time, the immigration officer doesn't ask where I am staying. When they do ask, I show them the address written on a piece of paper and they look at it then stamp my passport. The last time someone asked, after showing him the address I asked if he had the Check Mig information, and he said he did. Evidently, they are only verifying what is in Check Mig. The last time I went through immigration was October 30,2024.
Like I said, leave the drink out of it. Every story begins with drinking.
[URL]https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhbR087f76qw2aoX7x/cant-trust-nobody-out-here-streamers-get-set-up-and-robbed-by-colombian-prostitutes-while-live-wallets-gone-missing[/URL]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2970466]Overall between Medellin and Pattaya which city would you rate over the other?[/QUOTE]MoonShot. You start out a comparison with football? WTF!
This is an overall average comparison. Pattaya the girls are more expensive and older. The food everywhere is so much better. Hotels are a little cheaper and cleaner. Much safer. It is a 24 hour city and the only thing to really rarely worry about are drunks which you just stay clear of because they are easy to spot. They have a nice walking sidewalk along the beach. If you like to drink with the guys and really relax then this place is great because you can walk around drunk and not worry about getting robbed or killed like Medellin.
There are 2 bars and a few more if you are in the know. You sit at the bar / stage. Careful the girls do not kick your drink. Girls are dancing right there above you. This was 7 years ago when I went in there. The guy next to me chats the girl dancing above him and she sits down in front of him. She spreads her legs and scoots up close and personal with her legs over his shoulders. He then proceeds to eat her out for 15 minutes or more in front of everyone. Then a table behind me a guy was doing the same thing.
It is a killer flight and expensive but I think every guy in the world should experience Pattaya and Bangkok once in their lives before the good times disappear. You may love it or you may hate it. Vastly different than Colombia.
I was there in late September, Immigration asked me where I was staying confirming my CheckMig. It only takes 30 seconds to fill out the form.
No big deal to do and makes it easier to thru immigration. You will need it to leave as well, It is checked at the point where you check in at your airlines.
I know because the flight check in staff told me.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2970724]I always fill out the Check Mig thing online before going and leaving. Most of the time, the immigration officer doesn't ask where I am staying. When they do ask, I show them the address written on a piece of paper and they look at it then stamp my passport. The last time someone asked, after showing him the address I asked if he had the Check Mig information, and he said he did. Evidently, they are only verifying what is in Check Mig. The last time I went through immigration was October 30,2024.[/QUOTE]
When I was posting about Thailand, someone said a WTF why start with football? The answer is it's a significant difference here in Thailand. I find myself missing games because I don't want to stay up in the middle of the night to watch football games. In Medellin, the times are the same so it just makes it much easier to watch football games. If you are a big football fan, this is actually a significant factor.
I also like to trade stocks in the US stock market and once again the time differences make a difference. In Medellin I can monitor the stock market and make trades during normal hours just like in the United States. Here in Thailand, the stock market opens at 9:30 pm And ends at 4:00 am I find it difficult too trade toward the end of the session so I'm just making trades in the beginning of the stock market which isn't ideal.
So for me, the time differences is a significant factor when it comes to the different countries.
From FaceBook. Dec 27 - Come to Bogotá Much Safer and Just as Hot Girls here.
Woman Robs Tourists Using "Devil's Breath," A Memory Erasing Drug.
Medellin, Colombia.
A woman accused of robbing tourists with a memory-erasing drug known as Devil's Breath has been arrested by police.
Carolina Meija Montoya, 27, had been dubbed the "Queen of Scopolamine" by police in Medellin, named after the drug she incapacitated her alleged victims with.
Most of the 8 crimes she has been accused of involved foreign tourists. Investigators say she targeted men in a park in the upmarket neighborhood of Medellin famed for its sex tourism called El Poblado. She then invited them to drinks she spiked in hotels and apartments before stealing their belongings while they were unconscious.
The drug she allegedly used is mainly produced in Colombia and comes from the seeds of the borrachero tree. Devil's Breath, also known as burundanga, comes as a fine white powder which is blown into the victim's face or used to spike food or drinks and renders people helpless within minutes.
It disappears from the bloodstream in around 4 hours, meaning it often becomes untraceable before a victim has had time to be tested. In high doses it can be lethal.
Montoya is suspected of making up to Ł30,000 from each of her alleged crimes. She has been described as one of the leaders of crime gang La Marina, which specialized in drink spiking thefts.
3 alleged accomplices were arrested during police raids in May but she escaped, abandoning a child who was subsequently taken into care. A spokesman for Valle de Aburra Metropolitan Police, which covers Medellin, confirmed overnight, "A woman known as the Queen of Scopolamine has been arrested in Medellin. This 27-year-old woman is allegedly involved in at least 8 cases of theft using chemical substances. "
It also released footage of officers taking her into custody in a leather dress in handcuffs, and a woman thought to be Montoya entering a residential property with a suspected accomplice and one of their alleged victims.
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Ugh! THe level of frustration from this one was astounding!
After getting thru traffic cause I had to hit the ATM I get to Del Rio (everyone knows the spot I'm talking about.) I text, I give my ID.
I get told what torre and apt to go to.
I get there and the door opens its a long extension super dark moreno that is CLEARLY not here.
They say "oh sorry she isn't available".
Its like CMON! You could have ATLEAST told me that on the way there when I text a bunch of times I was closer OR when I was even downstairs but NO!
You basically tried to think that the little head would get to decide! NO!
I walk right out there saying what I'm saying to you. I text her even and she knew she was wrong.
So beware with Chanel but this was my experience and it could happen to you.
Gringos have ruined Medellin just like everywhere they have invaded.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2972031][URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/chanel-modelito-vip-exotica-super-complaciente-trato-de-novios/25587687/[/URL]
Ugh! THe level of frustration from this one was astounding!
After getting thru traffic cause I had to hit the ATM I get to Del Rio (everyone knows the spot I'm talking about.) I text, I give my ID.
I get told what torre and apt to go to.
I get there and the door opens its a long extension super dark moreno that is CLEARLY not here.
They say "oh sorry she isn't available".
Its like CMON! You could have ATLEAST told me that on the way there when I text a bunch of times I was closer OR when I was even downstairs but NO!
You basically tried to think that the little head would get to decide! NO!
I walk right out there saying what I'm saying to you. I text her even and she knew she was wrong.
So beware with Chanel but this was my experience and it could happen to you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2972031]
You basically tried to think that the little head would get to decide! NO!
So beware with Chanel but this was my experience and it could happen to you.[/QUOTE]I went for a black girl and they did that. I checked again for the black girl as I past by the next day on my way to another location. Lucky me she was there. But somehow my black girl had turned into a pure Latina. But they assured me it was the same girl. Never returned I was so angry. Sad because there was another girl there I wanted but after that lost all interest for any girl there.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2972036]Gringos have ruined Medellin just like everywhere they have invaded.[/QUOTE]That says it all.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2972036]Gringos have ruined Medellin just like everywhere they have invaded.[/QUOTE]It is not that bad at all. Sometimes people want to compare a place to the way it was in the past but it is what it is. A place can be less desirable than in the past but still enjoyable. Due to YouTube and the Internet, more people are traveling and more men are mongering. Now you can see that as gringos invading a country and making it worse or you can see it as men discovering a place where they can enjoy themselves and having fun.
I enjoy visiting Medellin and will return again. At the same time, things do change and you need to adjust. Somethings that means instead of going to the bars, you go online instead. Or it could just be visitng the country but changing to a different city and starting over.
As some have said, Medellin getting too crowded for you, go to Bogota or Cali or any other city in Colombia where there are less gringos.
As for me, the more men decide to move on from Medellin, the better it is for me. Guys being drugged. Women asking too much money. Robberies on the street. Crime up against gringos. I say stay away so I can continue to enjoy Medellin.
[QUOTE=TheNakedIndian;2969641]Arriving December 23 to Medellin by way of Thailand. Booked at guest friendly spot right near Hotel Dix. I'm a 35 year old gringo here in my first trip. Unfortunately my Spanish sucks and the mansion is no more. Would have been great guard rails for me.
I'm here to take some lessons, do some work online, not a huge partier but wanted to know if there was a preferred monger route for those of us with a low risk tolerance. I read the forums and looks like agencies are hit or miss on honesty and quality but safe in terms of risk.
For someone like me I think parque lleras girls seem super high risk. Tinder seems like a minefield and not risking that either. But I'the be curious if anyone knows is Seeking is as dangerous as tinder has been mentioned to be?
Seems like a ton of the risk lies around bringing a girl to your place.
I'the be curious to get a gauge on what people think the risk levels are in terms of Fase, isla, energy, or even gusto is for someone new with weak Spanish? I think I can guess the answer but would love to hear anyways. If anyone is in Medellin Dec-Jan and wants to show me the ways of the force, feel free to DM me. Drinks on me.[/QUOTE]I've heard good things about Des Spa and Spa Fantasias Energy, keep an eye on their hours tho because I went Sunday about 3 pm and got skunked, turns out they closed all of Sunday, I might try again another day this week.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2972036]Gringos have ruined Medellin just like everywhere they have invaded.[/QUOTE]I fail to understand how a bait and switch is a gringo ruining it.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2972053]I went for a black girl and they did that. I checked again for the black girl as I past by the next day on my way to another location. Lucky me she was there. But somehow my black girl had turned into a pure Latina. But they assured me it was the same girl. Never returned I was so angry. Sad because there was another girl there I wanted but after that lost all interest for any girl there.[/QUOTE]Ha you got the inverse it seems. Well NOW we know. Too bad we can't post the numbers they use so they know to stay clear.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2972125]Ha you got the inverse it seems. Well NOW we know. Too bad we can't post the numbers they use so they know to stay clear.[/QUOTE]The place I went to was an apartment on the third floor. One room was where all the girls were shown and several rooms where you went to have your fun. I was with 3 girls, but had 5 different Whatsapp numbers. Each girl may have 2 or more ads with different pictures, names, and different numbers so you think you are getting different girls but it is the same girl because once you are there you will most likely pull the trigger. You need a spreadsheet to track all the numbers. Best to use the address as a point of reference. Then you will see the pattern that many girls stay at the same location.
That is the point exactly. It is now crystal clear for everyone.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2972124]I fail to understand how a bait and switch is a gringo ruining it.[/QUOTE]
Similar boat to you. Late 30's, very minimal Spanish. When I was there in March, I really enjoyed New Life and Tantra Medellin. Some guys will say "you're not getting the real experience" but I am risk adverse as well. I took an Uber, got out and went straight in, had a great time, called an Uber and went back to my AirBNB. Minimal risk, good prices and a lot of fun. I also pulled a few times from Lleras and preferred the more relaxed atmosphere of New Life and Tantra. Heading back in the Spring and plan on spending most of my $ and time at those two places but might mix Loutron in simply for the "Escobar Mansion" appeal. Also heard good things about Club Atenea if you're looking for the massage / Nuru experience. Hope you had a safe trip and look forward to hearing about it.
[QUOTE=TheNakedIndian;2969641]Arriving December 23 to Medellin by way of Thailand. Booked at guest friendly spot right near Hotel Dix. I'm a 35 year old gringo here in my first trip. Unfortunately my Spanish sucks and the mansion is no more. Would have been great guard rails for me.
I'm here to take some lessons, do some work online, not a huge partier but wanted to know if there was a preferred monger route for those of us with a low risk tolerance. I read the forums and looks like agencies are hit or miss on honesty and quality but safe in terms of risk.
For someone like me I think parque lleras girls seem super high risk.....[/QUOTE]
I'm posting this in conjunction with an earlier TR I posted on the Bogota forum.
This dates back to March 2022, first visit to Latam.
I'd spent 3 nights in Bogota & was now heading to Medelland.
I'd set up a Facebook account & had a decent amount of paisas added to my friends list.
This was going to be my target area.
First girl up was a late arrival at my hotel Dix lodging, no guest fees here.
She seemed one of the more prominent FB girls & I'd been perving over her photos for some time.
I considered I'd fallen lucky that she was accepting my custom.
Great prolonged service, friendly interaction throughout, she even spoke some English.
I was very happy.
300 k, no transport charges, she stayed over 1. 5 hours.
Next girl was another from Facebook.
This one had reached out to me & arrived to the hotel promptly.
Decent service but not as much interaction as the previous girl. This probably contributed to me finishing fairly quickly & sending her on her way.
250 k including travel.
She wasn't in the room for much more than half an hour but that was my fault!
I wanted to try a casa.
I'd been mooching around Centro & eventually found a taxi driver who knew where I wanted to go.
New Life?
Ah, chicas?!
Quite a few to my taste in the line up.
I chose a slim looker. 27 yo, her age surprised me.
She wanted to upcharge for DATY which began to dampen my enthusiasm. Rather than her snatch!
I declined & proceeded with a standard routine.
I was struggling, it was so hot & I noticed the fan wasn't on.
Too late now, & I tapped out unfulfilled.
55 k for 30 minutes.
I'll be back to try again.
Next day I was to visit Cartagena for a few days.
I checked in for the flight, but in departures things were backing up.
It turned out an incoming flight had to make an emergency landing & the subsequent fuel spillage had led to the runway closing for the day!
Long story short, my only realistic option was to return to Medelland, I was due to check back in to hotel Dix 3 days later anyway.
I just had to organise accommodation at short notice, this day had been completely wiped out.
I spent the next 3 nights in a couple of lower end Poblado hotels. The airport drama had impacted my hotel budget.
I didn't fancy inviting Facebook girls to my less than than salubrious surroundings so concentrated on the casas.
I returned to New Life casa.
Another decent line up, I chose a very pretty 20 yo alumna chica.
I was amused because she was reading up for her studies as I exited the shower!
She was agreeable to all my (reasonable) requests, absolutely no complaints from me, but once again I succumbed to the heat & humidity.
Again, 55 k for 30 minutes. 5 k for a beer, it doesn't really matter if you can't finish every time in these places at such prices!
The next encounter was another casa girl.
This time I wanted a change & headed to Zandalay casa, another one very close to Centro.
Another decent lineup, but this time I avoided the slender high heeled lookers & searched out someone I could vibe with despite my lack of Spanish.
I liked this place because I could mix with the available girls in the bar area rather than making an immediate selection from the lineup.
Ximena was 20 yo, 5 feet nothing & had a beautifully toned slim but thick figure.
She seemed to orgasm when I ate her (no upcharge), & energetically made sure I was fully satisfied.
You pay up front at Zandalay which was 50 k for the 30 minutes which Ximena had suggested.
5 k for the beer.
I returned to Zandalay on the final Sunday of my time in Medelland in the hope of a repeat with Ximena.
However, as I've come to learn, things are very slow on a Sunday in Colombia.
Zandalay was closed!
I headed to New Life which was open, but with limited availability.
I was able to find a suitable partner, though, strangely, for the 4th consecutive visit to this casa I was unable to finish.
My final 2 nights in Medelland were spent with the same Facebook girl at hotel Dix.
The same girl from my first night in Medelland.
She's extremely attractive & popular & she gave great service.
Tho she fucked me over a little.
We enjoyed some prolonged vibrator play before she commenced blowing me.
Mid BJ she declared the condom tasted funny & proceeded to remove the condom & continue BBBJ.
No complaints here, the remainder of the session including full sexo was sin condon.
An excellent 2 hours session.
However, she wasn't satisfied with the 300 k I handed her.
Sin condon was 400 k!
Tbf, I'd asked about sin condon prior to her 1st visit, & had declined the 400 k service.
I felt I'd had great value overall & was soon over the disappointment.
The final night was probably an even better experience.
This girl totally loves sex, she probably enjoyed our encounters as equally as me.
She loved vibrator play, she allowed me to make a video of her getting herself off with the wand which she late posted on her OF.
I finished with CIP, as I finished she produced a huge squirt which soaked the bedding.
The bed was still soaking & stinking as I checked out the following morning!
I casually threw a used towel over the damp areas & tucked a 20 k note under the pillow in the hope of avoiding extra charges!
I should add that my trips aren't solely about the mongering.
I love taking trips out to the less touristy areas of the city & I went to several football (soccer?) matches.
A little late and got side tracked with life but here is my report.
9/25.
Arrived late night on 9/25 around 830 pm and had to wait about an hour in customs in MDE. Not too bad but they only had 3-4 agents processing the tourists, def seems on purpose LOL. I had my Airbnb setup a driver and only came out to 120 k cop which is great considering an Uber costs about the same for that distance. I got an airbnb in poblado one block from Provenza and they were guest friendly, no issues whatsoever it was great. The young doorman guy was chill and just checked ID. Since it was late my buddy and I went to glow at lleras to show him the scene. We did the touristy thing where we bought the bottle and had 30+ girls gawking at us. It was great LOL. Only downside was the girl I chose quoted 500 k but then surprised me with 600 k at the Airbnb. She was hot though so didn't think too much of it. Def a mood killer of sorts but we still got it done. Learned my lesson after that.
9/26.
We did the touristy thing and went to walk by Comuna 13. After we walked around and had some beers we went to the 24 HR spot around 6. It's called Luna Lunera. 20 k cover and have to buy a bucket and drinks for the girls for their time. It was empty but man the day time shift was outstanding. It was very affordable at 260 k for a girl for 30 minutes. The one I chose was UH-mazing. What was ironic is the night shift that later came in didn't meet up to the quality of the day shift. At night we did the same thing at Glow but this time knew a little better and waited till I found one that I really liked. Got her for 400 k for a few hours. Cute spinner BBBJ CFS.
It's better to buy a bottle than lounging at the bar.
9/27.
THE BEST DAY.
Did some touristy stuff during the day and went to Pueblito Paisa and had some traditional Colombian food. Explored a little and later had a nice dinner at the famous Colosal. I have a Colombian friend who put me on to various connects including manager who works at La Logia. It's a reggaeton club on La 70, laureles where it's most known for locals and go to party. Much less touristy than Provenza. We got a bottle and vip section. It was just me and my buddies but then I made some magic happen and got 3 civvies to join us. Man were they fuuuun. It was a reggaeton club and puro perreo IYKYK. We had a blast with them and I got their whatsapp (s). More on that later. After we all left I got the same girl from lleras to come by for 300 k for some fun.
9/28.
I ended up taking out one of the civvies out for dinner that Saturday night. She was super nice sweet and fun to be with. Took her to Provenza for dinner and we clicked. It was awesome just hanging out with a Paisa. After dinner she insisted we go back to my Airbnb where I handled business. Typical paisa long black hair thick booty and curvy af. All I paid for was dinner and she bought me churros after. BEST NIGHT EVER. She had to leave to relieve her babysitter. After I charged up I went to lleras again and just took a girl home instead of doing the whole bottle service. Just an FYI it's very expensive to drink at the bar at glow so limit yourself to 1-2 drinks. Found a blonde paisa spinner and took her home for 400 k. She was fun and sexy AF but I will admit I know she did Tussy (pink party drug) beforehand and it showed after. She was kinda tweaking and fidgety. Nothing violent or bad happened but it def killed my vibe. The most I'll ever do is drink and smoke green.
9/29.
We had an early day on Sunday bc we had a day trip to Guatape planned so that took up most of our day. Got back around 7 pm. Later that night I went to La 70 by myself as my friends were too beat. Ended up meeting more civvies and vibing with the locals at some bar. Had a blast. Got their contacts and then went to lleras last minute to bag another tall blonde for 400 k. It was the end of the night so I got her in a desperate moment. This one also used some tussy but it didn't affect her like the last one. She was a real pleasure to be around. Wish I saw her again but she works some days and some weeks. Super paisa accent and beautiful booty.
9/30.
I had another early day and went to get a teeth whitening. Fortunately it was near el centro so I went for a walk to see the goods. It's an urban area and the girls match it. Saw some pretty ones but mostly lower quality and not my vibe. Maybe in a future trip I'll give it a go.
After that I went to Rio Sur Mall to try out a massage. Dharma spa. I'm a masseuse fan so had to try it out. Got the basic HR massage and a pretty masseuse. Short, Brown skin very curvy and hot. Think it was 200 k ish. After some small talk and time passed I asked if she could do it without clothes. She offered her services and said 3 4 and 5 for standard BJ and FS. I was a bit surprised but had to try the BBBJ. I'm sure I'll get some schtick for this but wanted to see her lips on my junk. She was great and I got her whatsapp# to try to get her to come over after hours.
After dinner drinks I was ready and hit up one of the luna lunera girls. She wanted 300 k for outcall so I had her over for some late night fun.
10/1.
Last day in Medellin and went to lleras hooters to watch some soccer. Wish I went there earlier the girls are top tier. I will be going back bc it's great for sports and nfl. Def want to try the girls too.
I wanted to try something different so I try mileroticos girl bc my buddy did the same and he got a good deal. I wish I tried this earlier bc she gave me a solid deal of 500 k for 4 hrs and MSOG. She was tiny beautiful cute and knew how to ride dick like no other.
Ran out of cash shortly after and didn't want to take out more so that was the end of my trip.
Final thoughts:
MDE is amazing and is prob the best city I've ever mongered in due to the limitless options. I'm early 30's and speak the language so maybe my mindset / idea of fun is different than some of youse.
Unfortunately the days of old where girls were 150-200 k are no longer feasible unless you stick to el centro and lower your standards. I def tried to bargain everywhere but sadly 300 k is the minimum for most. It's an expensive city now bc of the foreigners and overall inflation. Honestly you just got to deal with it, it's better than back home by many miles.
I LOVED the club vibe and having to choose from 50+ girls. Glow and lleras are perfect for it. Loved massages and hanging with the locals as well.
The civvies are where it's at and won't be as expensive as a cold street worker ie better return.
That will be my focus when I go back.
Do what makes you happy and try not to overspend while still having fun. I will go back and might try to live there for a bit.
[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2972272]..........9/28.
I ended up taking out one of the civvies out for dinner that Saturday night. She was super nice sweet and fun to be with. Took her to Provenza for dinner and we clicked. It was awesome just hanging out with a Paisa. After dinner she insisted we go back to my Airbnb where I handled business. Typical paisa long black hair thick booty and curvy af. All I paid for was dinner and she bought me churros after. BEST NIGHT EVER. .......[/QUOTE]Did y'all have drinks back at your place?
Thank you for the report!
Can you share the name of the Airbnb? I'm looking for a girl friendly place with security in Poblado.
I'll be in Medellin starting first of February, if anyone wants to share a beer and maybe party together a bit, do reach out!
I'm 29, fit, basic Spanish, looking to explore all Medellin has to offer!
Getting some good Facebook or Mileroticos contacts would also really help me out!
[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2972272]A little late and got side tracked with life but here is my report.
9/25.
Arrived late night on 9/25 around 830 pm and had to wait about an hour in customs in MDE. Not too bad but they only had 3-4 agents processing the tourists, def seems on purpose LOL. I had my Airbnb setup a driver and only came out to 120 k cop which is great considering an Uber costs about the same for that distance. I got an airbnb in poblado one block from Provenza and they were guest friendly, no issues whatsoever it was great. The young doorman guy was chill and just checked ID. Since it was late my buddy and I went to glow at lleras to show him the scene. We did the touristy thing where we bought the bottle and had 30+ girls gawking at us. It was great LOL. Only downside was the girl I chose quoted 500 k but then surprised me with 600 k at the Airbnb. She was hot though so didn't think too much of it. Def a mood killer of sorts but we still got it done. Learned my lesson after that.[/QUOTE]
I left Medellin this morning.
Lines were really packed.
There was a sign fir Foreigners and Colombians to go thru the BioMig system.
I went thru there.
A guy was was helping people to use the machine.
Pit my passport and use the flight number and went thru.
No stamping of my passport.
Took about one minute.
Sureman.
[QUOTE=SureMan;2972735]I left Medellin this morning.
Lines were really packed.
There was a sign fir Foreigners and Colombians to go thru the BioMig system.
I went thru there.
A guy was was helping people to use the machine.
Pit my passport and use the flight number and went thru.
No stamping of my passport.
Took about one minute.
Sureman.[/QUOTE]Same thing when exiting through Bogota El Dorado International Airport. They've had it for some time now.
[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2972272]Unfortunately the days of old where girls were 150-200 k are no longer feasible unless you stick to el centro and lower your standards. [/QUOTE]That is Fake News. The casas are comparable to those rates and even less depending on how much time that you want. Also, on Mileroticos there are plenty of chicas in the 150-200 K price range without lowering your standards. If you were on Mileroticos I know you seen them. There are a lot of chicas that advertise in the Laureles area.
[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2972272]Unfortunately the days of old where girls were 150-200 k are no longer feasible unless you stick to el centro and lower your standards. I def tried to bargain everywhere but sadly 300 k is the minimum for most. It's an expensive city now bc of the foreigners and overall inflation. Honestly you just got to deal with it, it's better than back home by many miles.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MongerHunger;2972917]That is Fake News. The casas are comparable to those rates and even less depending on how much time that you want. Also, on Mileroticos there are plenty of chicas in the 150-200 K price range without lowering your standards. If you were on Mileroticos I know you seen them. There are a lot of chicas that advertise in the Laureles area.[/QUOTE]I agree with your conclusion but for different reasons. When the going rate for decent girls was 150-200 K what was the exchange rate? 2,500 pesos for the dollar. Today it is 4,400 pesos to 1 dollar. So, if you do the arithmetic that would be a range of 260350. In that range there are more good, decent girls than a person could possibly see, even on an extended vacation. And with the mass migration to the cities there are even more girls who grew up in the pueblos that are available today.
Can't PM you unfortunately. How long are you staying? I'll arrive at February 15.
[QUOTE=Streuner37;2972707]I'll be in Medellin starting first of February, if anyone wants to share a beer and maybe party together a bit, do reach out![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Villainy;2973166]I agree with your conclusion but for different reasons. When the going rate for decent girls was 150-200 K what was the exchange rate? 2,500 pesos for the dollar. Today it is 4,400 pesos to 1 dollar. So, if you do the arithmetic that would be a range of 260350. In that range there are more good, decent girls than a person could possibly see, even on an extended vacation. And with the mass migration to the cities there are even more girls who grew up in the pueblos that are available today.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of quality chicas at the 150-200 k rate today at TODAY'S EXCHANGE RATE. Casas, Online Shopping, etc. That's the beauty of it all.
First off the strip clubs:
LA Isla 6 times: Always ask taxi driver for the price before leaving lleras park with them. Got into with one of them trying to charge me 50 mil for a 4 minute drive. Had to shove him into his car and tell the manager at the door to give him shit which they did! Rates have increased from 450,000 to 600,000 after the recent room Reno's and the loss of many hot girls to Europe these days. $50,000 pesos for cover minimum of 6 beers in a bucket 270,000 or a bottle to sit down otherwise you must stand at the bar 40 mil pesos a beer. Still 2 mil pesos minimum for each dancer that comes up after there dance. I do feel like the now have a talent pool of tons if not so great women there every night just to annoy you for 2 mil pesos. I usually find about 2-5 girls that I really want to fuck. Definitely have to do a lap once an hour for your piss or you will miss out if your sitting. Of course the waiting game comes into play when they are all busy with guys having bottle service or throwing American one dollar bills. Sometimes you can strike out. Definitely I prefer week days due to the ratio and several hotties being invited out to parties in guatape or to do tussi all weekend with some young djs here. Here is the drink menu price list link!! It says straight out 220 for the room at the club so girl gets 380 the same as in lleras park food for thought!
[URL]https://farrasnorte.com/pdv/?biz=-Ma953GJdOFCH_U0l8x4[/URL]
Definitely everyone should go at least once.
Fase Dos 2 times: one week day and once on the weekend. Definitely hit or miss in this club. You must buy a bottle minimum or get lucky with one of 8 seats at the bar if you only order beer. On the weekend there was one really cute very tall girl but she was tied up with a table. Club is very dark and harder to see faces etc. Lacks an easy way to do a lap to check out the girls. Weekday was pretty disappointing nothing worth spending $450,000 mil pesos on. Better talent can be had for $400,000 in parque lleras.
Barra ejecutiva one time based on reviews from local expats. Take uber only after 11 pm on a weekend. 17 mil pesos for an guila Found two decent girls there! Asked the waiter he said 180,000 for 30 minutes and that's what the girls charged me. Reviewers have stated 310,00 per hour there. Quite a few really tall women more natural bodies. Mix of mature and very young.
Has anyone TOFT the new strip club cabaret that girls are now handing out cards for? Guessing it is an even worse clip joint than la isla once you get there?
My first extended trip finally spending time in el Centro by hopping on the train to parque berrio from poblado. FYI always keep your valuables in one pocket and put your hand in that pocket on the train to avoid any chance of pick pockets when crowded. Also to note I stayed very drunk until 8 pm one night which is a little late for the area. I had the 8 girls try to do the swarm tactic pulling you in both directions leaving your pockets exposed. Never walk through the center of a big group go to the outside. I'm big and strong enough and already had my Hand firmly in my pocket so I got away safe.
Banged 12 girls there now. Steady roster with a rare unicorn popping up once and a while. Now it's more awkward when the girls all recognize you hoping to go again. Strip clubs near by were trash during the day! Nuttibarra is the hotel right in the heart that is decent! Best girls tend to be on the east side of the street transvestites on the west side of the street mostly further north from where the old white guys sit to drink every day. The odd real girl works that side that is cute near the halfway point. Hotel where trans are at north end is 20 mil pesos but has the nicest cleanest rooms! Some girls take you to that location.
Today was gross though the first 2 of the 3 girls were on their period! Once I saw the blood I stopped immediately! Kind of gross for Centro but the girls need to work apparently.
Today I found a gem with a nice tiny fake butt she said she never works there down at the very far north end near where you turn back to parque berrio.
Girls usually hang out near the restaurant that serves beer on the corner in the heart of the action. 4000 pesos for an guila! Girls give you the nod and look 👀 like the locals and just follow them across the street to the hotel upstairs. Met one really cute girl with red hair and piercings that rides dick better than Veronica Rodrguez! Gets you right to the tip is about to pop out and right back in full of mad energy! She knows she the best there and charged 60 mil pesos but her hotel of choice is only 10 mil there!
One taller black girl curly hair with an amazing body 8. 5 out of 10 natural with a nice ass and great tits! She can twerk like crazy in doggy! Seen her four times! She gets super wet and cums like crazy! [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
One young girl with a big fake butt that can ride reverse cowgirl great and can Deepthroat 5-6 inches of me not bad for Colombia.
One girl with corn rows cute face and tiny butt but had extra baby damage that was turn off!
Also to note I never go for the really young ones FYI not worth jail! Seen an old white dude get harassed by the cops after talking to one they tend to hang out halfway from the restaurant to the church leaning against the wall! I've seen some of the talking multiple times to cops in one day. Also I notice the other girls clear out once and a while and you can tell something is strange that their is only young ones all around you and then usually a cop is around! Would love others opinions on this experience and interpretation etc.
Pay attention on the east side in the middle you'll know where because every now and again a trans will be hanging in that area.
I Think you do need to watch out for trans though even in the really short cute ones! I banged two that I couldn't feel them orgasm and grip of my dick tight enough! They also tend to moan fairly like crazy.
If they are good always grab the WhatsApp contacts for your day game since that really is the only way without trying the brothel / spas.
Also to note send them a Hi right away through the app at least then it's a 50/50 if you will get to see there WhatsApp stories / videos to see how they look and are normally.
Parque lleras cheap beers at the store next to Juan Valdez when doing your laps 6mil for a corona that is cold! I took 3 girls from there! One I knew from Bogota that moved here for the better pay in the parque compared to Santa Fe! One quick score is 400,000 mil vs working the strip clubs seen a few others I recognized as well. Same goes for some of the lleras girls being at Centro but they are lower class by lleras standards on a good night.
I find the hottest ones are around 9:30 to 10:30 or after 3 pm if they missed out at a strip club or decided to make a quick buck after their night out. Also to note Gusto has gone way downhill for quality over the years. You can sit at the pub watching sports directly below it and watch the talent go into the elevators for free while also seeing the parque action FYI!
I Hooked up with 5 models from instagram that hang around the electronic music dj scene usually around 800,000 for a couple of hours at a nice air bnb! Most have been to Europe, Mexico, Ecuador and Bahamas etc to work. We have lost alot Of beautiful women to Madrid, IBIZA, Croatia and Dubai now especially the whole Venezuelan contingent from Cartagena! Weather has been shit in Cartagena but the first week of every year they have tons of raves with models high on tussi all over?
[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2973729]Only down side is her pussy is a tad smelly after she cums but natural for black girls [/QUOTE]That's strange. You say that " it's natural for black girls pussies to be smelly after they cum". That has not been my experience in Colombia or elsewhere when they cum and get wet. Maybe you're selecting the one's with hygiene issues.
[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2973729]Today was gross though the first 2 of the 3 girls were on their period! Once I saw the blood I stopped immediately! [/QUOTE]Maybe they were virgin?
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2973802]Maybe they were virgin?[/QUOTE]If there were virgins in Colombia, Jesus Christ would have been born there. Oh, wait; you'd still need three wise men. Never mind.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2973788]That's strange. You say that " it's natural for black girls pussies to be smelly after they cum". That has not been my experience in Colombia or elsewhere when they cum and get wet. Maybe you're selecting the one's with hygiene issues.[/QUOTE]He provided a context which is based on his experience in Africa. It may just be a coincidence but that is his experience with only one girl in Medellin and probably many in Africa.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2973802]Maybe they were virgin?[/QUOTE]Nope I had slept with one of them before on a few occasions.
When I am in Pattaya and not Medellin. Jajaja. Its true, so much safer in Pattaya. Drunk men wandering back to their hotel rooms late at night with little risk of being robbed. Drinking with girls without worrying about being drugged. In fact you can pass out from drinking, wake up and the girl is sleeping next to you and all your stuff is still there. You don't have to be on guard all the time.
But still I do miss the girls in Medellin and will be back eventually. But always on guard again.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2974201]When I am in Pattaya and not Medellin. Jajaja. Its true, so much safer in Pattaya. Drunk men wandering back to their hotel rooms late at night with little risk of being robbed. Drinking with girls without worrying about being drugged. In fact you can pass out from drinking, wake up and the girl is sleeping next to you and all your stuff is still there. You don't have to be on guard all the time.
But still I do miss the girls in Medellin and will be back eventually. But always on guard again.[/QUOTE]Thailand is great but significant difference in commute time for those in the USA Really need 2 weeks or more for an Asia trip.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2974201]Its true, so much safer in Pattaya. Drunk men wandering back to their hotel rooms late at night with little risk of being robbed.[/QUOTE]That little risk comes in the form of a transvestite, which are known for stealing through non-violent thefts.
[QUOTE=Combo;2974349]Thailand is great but significant difference in commute time for those in the USA Really need 2 weeks or more for an Asia trip.[/QUOTE]I agree. That is one big advantage to Medellin versus anywhere in Asia. For Americans, the flight is much shorter and cheaper. I took a flight that took over 27 hours with the layover to get from United States to Thailand an airline ticket was $1,600. When I fly Spirit to Medellin, It is 7 hours with the layover and $500. If you're flying from Florida, it is even cheaper and shorter. That extra money and time buys you a lot of girls in Medellin. But for guys who have never been to Thailand, coming to Thailand for the first time can blow your mind due to all the options easily available.
I have RTFF but would welcome your thoughts regarding best quality lodging that is guest friendly.
[QUOTE=PilotPete;2974450]I have RTFF but would welcome your thoughts regarding best quality lodging that is guest friendly.[/QUOTE]If only there were a topic here about Medellin hotels.
Try this Thread:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/URL]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2974502]If only there were a topic here about Medellin hotels.[/QUOTE]
It's been a couple of years since I've seen what was a kind of trend Plaza Botero. There was a gang of trans workers who would gang up on unsuspecting victims and rob them. I witnessed it twice in the plaza. It was happening often enough that it had a nickname in the local news: "enredar" the victims. They would encircle the victim, deal out some manly blows, and take their stuff. As I said, I haven't seen or heard about this happening for at least a couple of years but it's something to be aware of.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2974354]That little risk comes in the form of a transvestite, which are known for stealing through non-violent thefts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2974502]If only there were a topic here about Medellin hotels.[/QUOTE]My bad. Didn't scroll down far enough. Thanks.
Purple elixir.
Angel 160 + 50 Mil oral natural.
[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/angel-flaca-jovencita-y-hermosa-paisa-con-una-carita-hermosa/25657129/[/URL]
Purple Elixar*seems to be an up and coming casa that relies on keeping a smaller amount*of girls that you must make appointments with. I saw a few but was in the mode for a skinny girl. *.
I found Angel, who has that runway model look, a rarity in Colombia.
I arrive and inside I see the stairs painted purple. The place has a nice astehntic to it with multiple rooms. The mamasan asks me if I have a cita and I tell her yes with Angel. *.
I go upstairs*and into a room where I wait about 3 minutes for Angel to arrive.
She is gorgeous, about 5 8 102 lbs, flat chested, small ass but still a nice shape. 18 years old a natural beauty model face with no makeup on. * She has the type of face that if she goes heavy or light with the make up she could be on the cover of a magazine. It's not a paisa face but still very pretty.
I give her the cash, and she returns with change and gives some pecks. Her hair is freshly wet from a shower and we start to make out. She goes for my Johnson right away but I like how she uses her hands first on the outside and gets me comfortable.
She gives*slow passionate BJ and takes her time with it. I can tell if she did it a lot she could def make me nut. I play with her pussy a bit which is very*tiny but not has a couple of*days of stubble on it. While she is flat-chested, she has these great light brown eraser nips and just sticks out wanting to be sucked. She enjoys it as I go slowly with her. After about 8 min suck she straps on the rubber and rides me. Her pussy is super tight and I have to stop so I don't cum too fast. We switch positions and I want to nut and she tells me she wants to feel it inside. So I bust in the rubber but after she pulls it out and keeps stroking it in the rubber.
We chat after while she sings all the songs playing. She can tell she won't work there for a long and has ambitions to go to Europe. She is living life in the fast lane. She gives me her private # and a deep kiss goodbye.
Would see again and if you want to bang a runway model in CO this is your best bet. She won't be here for a long time. *.
I'm committed to coming to Medellin in mid February. Since I'm not on a budget I'm thinking to stay at the Marriott or Haven but open to suggestions on current conditions. I'm also looking for a Spanish tutor and guide who can help me score top talent. I would appreciate intel. I will certainly post my experiences.
[QUOTE=PilotPete;2974843]I'm committed to coming to Medellin in mid February. Since I'm not on a budget I'm thinking to stay at the Marriott or Haven but open to suggestions on current conditions. I'm also looking for a Spanish tutor and guide who can help me score top talent. I would appreciate intel. I will certainly post my experiences.[/QUOTE]If budget is not an issue, you should just go to Sao Paulo to visit Scandallo and Casarao. There are plenty of reports there and you would not have problem finding answer to any questions you have. You don't need a guide to find what you are looking for and without the safety issue in Medellin. Food and hotels are much better.
[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/sara3043763602[/URL]
The past couple of girls I been paying for oral natural sucked me for maybe 2 minutnues max so I was looking for someone that really could do just that without really need to fuck. Someone I could lay back to.
I found Sara she says she is 23 but looks like 29. She has pretty face with very big eyes and a nice smile.
I tell her what I want and she gladly accepts and charges me 200 K.
Her place is in manila and right on a happing street. I think other people work in that area or the place has a name or something but when I arrived I just saw her.
Sara is 5 2 with bolt ONS and a HUGE rose tatto on the side of her that wraps around to half way across her stomach. Its ok but looking at her photos I can see where the Photoshop was done.
She leaves the room for about 5 minute after I had her the cash and I get undressed except for my boxers and chill She comes back and undresses reveling really big hard (like almost unsqueezable) full see cup tits see that are good for her build. She is about 115 lb and has a juicy ass and small waist.
She doesn't really kiss just little peaks but its ok. She goes strait to rub herself on me and gets me my boxers off.
I explained before that I don't want her using the wet nap wipes every 15 seconds when she sucks me and she says to make sure I'm super clean and hygenic and I'll have a great time.
She Defiently delivered on that. She starts to suck but then goes a bit too fast and I have to tell her Suave. I play with her little innie pussy a bit while she keeps sucking and stroking. I have her change positions a bit so I can see more and when she looks up with those big brown eyes it's a great site to see!! She got tired about 5 minutes in and would use her hand more then her mouth but I understand. However she did keep going and sucking. I think she went almost an entire 18 minutes before I finally decided it was time to pop. I stood up and shot a big load on her tits avoiding her face like she asked. She had a mistep and didn't keep stroking so I had to take control and finish the finish. She hands me wet naps to clean, then leaves and gets a towel so I can shower next door. The shower is hot and after I dry off and chill.
This is the ONE part that bothers me. I paid for the hour (or so I thought) but with about 17 minutes left as I am relaxing on the bed, she is like "ok time to go" I'm like what I still have X time left. And she is like "no you just paid for service" this kind of bothered me and I got ready and the truth is, I was really relaxing and enjoying chilling on the bed so I had to abruptly leave, it left a BAD taste in my mouth.
So basically go here for good service however after you nut, gett eh fuck out, you can not use any extra credit time to relax.
100 k or less in a casa has always been at least this good in my experience. Maybe it costs more for the silicone tits?
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2975028][URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/sara3043763602[/URL]
The past couple of girls I been paying for oral natural sucked me for maybe 2 minutnues max so I was looking for someone that really could do just that without really need to fuck. Someone I could lay back to.
I found Sara she says she is 23 but looks like 29. She has pretty face with very big eyes and a nice smile.
I tell her what I want and she gladly accepts and charges me 200 K.
Her place is in manila and right on a happing street. I think other people work in that area or the place has a name or something but when I arrived I just saw her.
Sara is 5 2 with bolt ONS and a HUGE rose tatto on the side of her that wraps around to half way across her stomach. Its ok but looking at her photos I can see where the Photoshop was done.
She leaves the room for about 5 minute after I had her the cash and I get undressed except for my boxers and chill She comes back and undresses reveling really big hard (like almost unsqueezable) full see cup tits see that are good for her build. She is about 115 lb and has a juicy ass and small waist..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2975028][URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/sara3043763602[/URL]..........This is the ONE part that bothers me. I paid for the hour (or so I thought) but with about 17 minutes left as I am relaxing on the bed, she is like "ok time to go" I'm like what I still have X time left. And she is like "no you just paid for service" this kind of bothered me and I got ready and the truth is, I was really relaxing and enjoying chilling on the bed so I had to abruptly leave, it left a BAD taste in my mouth.
So basically go here for good service however after you nut, gett eh fuck out, you can not use any extra credit time to relax.[/QUOTE]I don't know about other blokes but I have had similar experiences with escorts at their place. What I try to do now is to fuck for as close to the agreed time as possible nutting just before time is up to maximize utilization of money spent.
The rules of engagement are easy enough to understand as long as we don't get them twisted with our expectations or desires. Any single price quoted for any period of time, unless otherwise explicitly stated, equals one nut. When a 30 minute or one hour fee are offered, the shorter period equals one nut and the longer period equals two nuts. Some of the providers offer as many nuts as you can manage in one hour. Unless you train diligently that is going to equal two nuts. Like I said, once we start mixing in what we want or think we should get, everything becomes confusing and complicated.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2975084]I don't know about other blokes but I have had similar experiences with escorts at their place. What I try to do now is to fuck for as close to the agreed time as possible nutting just before time is up to maximize utilization of money spent.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2975054]100 k or less in a casa has always been at least this good in my experience. Maybe it costs more for the silicone tits?[/QUOTE]I think its cause I gave her specific instructions for oral natural that she would actually have to work her mouth for a while and she couldn't do that wet nap wipe every 20 seconds that these new breed of prepagos been doing the past year or so. Take that precum its good for you!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2975084]I don't know about other blokes but I have had similar experiences with escorts at their place. What I try to do now is to fuck for as close to the agreed time as possible nutting just before time is up to maximize utilization of money spent.[/QUOTE]This is a new phenomenon to me, I recall if I was a one pump chump that lasted 5 minutes that alteat the rest of the time I would get a massage or some good convo or maybe even an additional suck.
Its just behavior its changing I suppose.
But I'm with you, I definitely exercise lots of control if I'm really into it and Ill do the pause so I don't shoot too soon and get maximum value. I had one though, she could tell I was close and I did the pause and she wouldn't let me and rushed the nut!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2975120]The rules of engagement are easy enough to understand as long as we don't get them twisted with our expectations or desires. Any single price quoted for any period of time, unless otherwise explicitly stated, equals one nut. When a 30 minute or one hour fee are offered, the shorter period equals one nut and the longer period equals two nuts. Some of the providers offer as many nuts as you can manage in one hour. Unless you train diligently that is going to equal two nuts. Like I said, once we start mixing in what we want or think we should get, everything becomes confusing and complicated.[/QUOTE]Its not rocket science, whether the deal is one nut or two, fuck for as long as possible within the alotted time.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2975028][URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/sara3043763602[/URL]
The past couple of girls I been paying for oral natural sucked me for maybe 2 minutnues max so I was looking for someone that really could do just that without really need to fuck. Someone I could lay back to.
I found Sara she says she is 23 but looks like 29. She has pretty face with very big eyes and a nice smile.
I tell her what I want and she gladly accepts and charges me 200 K.
Her place is in manila and right on a happing street. I think other people work in that area or the place has a name or something but when I arrived I just saw her.
Sara is 5 2 with bolt ONS and a HUGE rose tatto on the side of her that wraps around to half way across her stomach. Its ok but looking at her photos I can see where the Photoshop was done.
She leaves the room for about 5 minute after I had her the cash and I get undressed except for my boxers and chill She comes back and undresses reveling really big hard (like almost unsqueezable) full see cup tits see that are good for her build. She is about 115 lb and has a juicy ass and small waist.
She doesn't really kiss just little peaks but its ok. She goes strait to rub herself on me and gets me my boxers off.
I explained before that I don't want her using the wet nap wipes every 15 seconds when she sucks me and she says to make sure I'm super clean and hygenic and I'll have a great time.
She Defiently delivered on that. She starts to suck but then goes a bit too fast and I have to tell her Suave. I play with her little innie pussy a bit while she keeps sucking and stroking. I have her change positions a bit so I can see more and when she looks up with those big brown eyes it's a great site to see!! She got tired about 5 minutes in and would use her hand more then her mouth but I understand. However she did keep going and sucking. I think she went almost an entire 18 minutes before I finally decided it was time to pop. I stood up and shot a big load on her tits avoiding her face like she asked. She had a mistep and didn't keep stroking so I had to take control and finish the finish. She hands me wet naps to clean, then leaves and gets a towel so I can shower next door. The shower is hot and after I dry off and chill.
This is the ONE part that bothers me. I paid for the hour (or so I thought) but with about 17 minutes left as I am relaxing on the bed, she is like "ok time to go" I'm like what I still have X time left. And she is like "no you just paid for service" this kind of bothered me and I got ready and the truth is, I was really relaxing and enjoying chilling on the bed so I had to abruptly leave, it left a BAD taste in my mouth.
So basically go here for good service however after you nut, gett eh fuck out, you can not use any extra credit time to relax.[/QUOTE]200 k for just a BJ that's expensive man!
[QUOTE=PilotPete;2974843]I'm committed to coming to Medellin in mid February. [/QUOTE]
I responded because you don't seem to know what you are doing. Even if you can find a guide, you may still not get what you want and the selection will be limited from the guide.
You can look up Renaissance Sao Paulo Hotel and stay there. It is a hotel with many business travelers and is in a good area that is not far from one of the popular clubs. You can even find girls in the bar area. This solves your issue with lodging. For girls, just headed to Scandallo and that solves your other need. For an average person, you are not going to get more from girls in Medellin than what you can get in Brazil. The girls need to pay 50 USD to get in the club and that naturally filter out less desirable girls, You still can get more than 100 girls on site. You will have more than 200 you can choose from between this and Casarao. The main difference is that Brazilian are more likely to go all out in sex while Colombian tend to save something for their (future) boyfriend. Colombian don't kiss like Brazilian for that reason if that is your thing. If you look average and don't speak Spanish, you may have 10% of getting a good DFK, but if you go to Scandallo, the percentage goes up to 90% simply because they are Brazilian and will work to earn your business. Daytime you can go to casa like places. There are several high end ones that have better looking girls. There are a group of members who frequent SP and they will be very helpful if you ask question there. it is more of a sure thing for your situation. Later you can work your way down to Medellin and taking more chances because you can always fall back to Brazil.
If you decide to go, I will help you with any other questions you have when you are on the ground. Head to the SP thread and you can get plenty of help there.
I took the image from this guy's report that admin allowed to post.
[QUOTE=ShoheiOtani;2972806]Here is a blog written by a Japanese guy.
Hot Ladies' Log of YUKIHIRO.
[URL]https://yoasobiman.com/en/[/URL]
On this site, he posts daily about his experiences with nightlife in Japan and other countries around the world.
Reports from Colombia are also included 🇨127476;.[/QUOTE]
I guess I might not get around as much as other guys. I don't remember ever having a girl deploy a wet wipe during a BJ. I know for sure I would never permit it, at any price.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2975131]I think its cause I gave her specific instructions for oral natural that she would actually have to work her mouth for a while and she couldn't do that wet nap wipe every 20 seconds that these new breed of prepagos been doing the past year or so. Take that precum its good for you![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2975319]I guess I might not get around as much as other guys. I don't remember ever having a girl deploy a wet wipe during a BJ. I know for sure I would never permit it, at any price.[/QUOTE]Yeah. It definitely happens.
First thank you Bluechange. I was staying in Belen then moved to Laurles, little did I know I was walking by a great *house everyday.
Saw the post, was going to try and book an appointment but just decided to walk in and see if I could see the lineup which was no problem. I like them lean which can be a challenge at the casa's these days. I would had gladly taken the thin one Bluechange posted pictures of, but to my pleasant surprise of the 10 girls working about 5 where lean and cute.
Felt like a kid in a candy store again, to many casa's now feel like I'm in a goodwill store shopping.
Went with a cute skinny redhead, price was $110 for thirty minutes. It's $160 for an hour, I just got a little confused with my light Spanish so much better deal to take the hour. She gave a great BJ with a lot of salvia, the rest of the session was good not great.
I like casa Tantra but with them raising their prices the Purple casa has a much better lineup. Only problem I don't think they serve beer but a water is included with the session.
[QUOTE=Finsfanfk;2975850]First thank you Bluechange. I was staying in Belen then moved to Laurles, little did I know I was walking by a great *house everyday.
Saw the post, was going to try and book an appointment but just decided to walk in and see if I could see the lineup which was no problem. I like them lean which can be a challenge at the casa's these days. I would had gladly taken the thin one Bluechange posted pictures of, but to my pleasant surprise of the 10 girls working about 5 where lean and cute.
Felt like a kid in a candy store again, to many casa's now feel like I'm in a goodwill store shopping.
Went with a cute skinny redhead, price was $110 for thirty minutes. It's $160 for an hour, I just got a little confused with my light Spanish so much better deal to take the hour. She gave a great BJ with a lot of salvia, the rest of the session was good not great.
I like casa Tantra but with them raising their prices the Purple casa has a much better lineup. Only problem I don't think they serve beer but a water is included with the session.[/QUOTE]Yeah man! It feels like a 2016 Casa not a 2025 Casa.
Sorry you had bad service, I don't know the red head but the other go to's are.
Lorena who is a petite small bolt on paisa spinner who is always there. IF she has a good vibe with you its dope.
Melissa a skinny mini who also has a similar build to angel and likes to bang.
Thalina who is a vennie with full naturals.
They had cerveza and gatorade when I was there just check the fridge that's near the purple stairs.
Oh and SPEAKING of the purple stairs. What is Hilarious that like 3 years ago and up until the last year Purple Elixar was a hippie flip flop trying to be cool Hostel!! Like you could stay in that place on airbnb and stuff. That I laugh at is, someone took it over and was like "multiple rooms, with beds already. Lets go! They didn't change the name OR even like the cool lights in the room, just truly hilarious!!
Glad my review helped, holla if you are looking for more quality performers.
Hello all.
At VERY short notice, I find myself having the time to take a little side trip to Medellin for a couple of days (this Sunday and Monday). Looks like I'll be staying at the Dorada 70.
This is my first trip, and is a 'taster' for a longer trip. I want to see how I get on with very limited Spanish. If anyone happens to be in town and would have the time and inclination to help me to try to soak up as much 'culture' as I can in that time, please PM me! I have no plans as of now and am trying to build up a few FB contacts for some chicas.
Cheers.
So Blue change seems like you hit almost the entire casa, congrats.
My session was cool, just started off with great energy then when down a little. I will never complain after a great blow job.
I did look in the fridge, just saw water but good to know they are a casa that does not frown on mixing hot young chicas and cerveza.
Did love the decor, was thinking no way this can also double as a hostel.
Had my rotation of Tantra, Playboy club, and Sexy Amigas. Another really nice casa, in a safe Barrio, with many young thin Chicas, will definitely add this casa to the list.
Thanks again, FFF.
Bring ear plugs.
[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2976231]Hello all.
At VERY short notice, I find myself having the time to take a little side trip to Medellin for a couple of days (this Sunday and Monday). Looks like I'll be staying at the Dorada 70.
This is my first trip, and is a 'taster' for a longer trip. I want to see how I get on with very limited Spanish. If anyone happens to be in town and would have the time and inclination to help me to try to soak up as much 'culture' as I can in that time, please PM me! I have no plans as of now and am trying to build up a few FB contacts for some chicas.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2976231]Hello all.
At VERY short notice, I find myself having the time to take a little side trip to Medellin for a couple of days (this Sunday and Monday). Looks like I'll be staying at the Dorada 70.
This is my first trip, and is a 'taster' for a longer trip. I want to see how I get on with very limited Spanish. If anyone happens to be in town and would have the time and inclination to help me to try to soak up as much 'culture' as I can in that time, please PM me! I have no plans as of now and am trying to build up a few FB contacts for some chicas.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Have much fun, hope you read up. Much has been written.
PLEASE, if you hook up with FB internet girls, watch your drinks and don't get "scoped"!
Many have, and been relieved of there valuables. Or worst, killed!
[QUOTE=Finsfanfk;2976263]So Blue change seems like you hit almost the entire casa, congrats.
My session was cool, just started off with great energy then when down a little. I will never complain after a great blow job.
I did look in the fridge, just saw water but good to know they are a casa that does not frown on mixing hot young chicas and cerveza.
Did love the decor, was thinking no way this can also double as a hostel.
Had my rotation of Tantra, Playboy club, and Sexy Amigas. Another really nice casa, in a safe Barrio, with many young thin Chicas, will definitely add this casa to the list.
Thanks again, FFF.[/QUOTE]For SURE!! I actually was there again, I need to post another report.
I made friends with some of the girls and got the real name and numbers etc. I swear these girls like live there and just fuck.
The vibe is REALLY good! It doesn't function as a hostel anymore it just that is what it started as. Its sort like when a building is an Ihop, it moves and is something new but still has the shape of the ihop buidling. That is what this is!!
Good times and good fun! I saw Corona's in the fridge so yeah they keep it stacked for sure, maybe earlier in the day.
Few month old report.
Medellin was awesome the 1st day was good rom Parque Lleras.
2nd and 3rd day not so much. Too many 2 - 5's and could not pick anyone.
Tried La Isla strip club. Was a great experience. Spent some cash got only dances. If you want you can get full service at this club.
Lot of fake tits and assess tho. Found a few that were naturals and went with them. Lot of mileage for the dances. Touching etc.
Tiffany.
160 K + 70 K oral natural.
[URL]https://elixirpurpura.com/o_models/tiffany/[/URL]
I was hanging with a friend and we made out but she got too drunk so I put her in a taxi. I went home with a stiffy so I decided the next day I would go straight to a pro to get it take care of.
Purple elixir is surly becoming my new fav casa. You can tell the vibe is right, there is a more casual loose feel and comfort I have. It's not a crazy rotation of girls either which I think I prefer now. Something farmilar.
I heard good reviews about Tiffany and wanted to see what all the hub bub was about.
It's slightly hot outside, I arrive past the bluish purple gates as a tall girl is arriving as well. The mamasan opens the door and I tell her tengo cita con Tiffany. She shows me up the stairs and the purple banister. I pass by the fridge on the way up and see a full stocked fridge of corona. I skipped drinking as the night before got me. But eventually I got a small water as a comp later when I was already in the room.
I sit down and the room is really nice, plenty of flurry accent blankets, twillo string lights, a fan and an adjacent shower.
Tiffany arrvies, her face isn't like drop dead but her vibe is like very cool. She is all naturally and thick. About 5 3 135 ish but not fat or anything. The photos are photoshopped. She has a little extra on her but nothing that will make you run. But what you see in person and online is different. I give her the cash and she tells me to shower. I hop in, the hot water works thanks to one of those electric showers of death attachments you see here from time to time. Luckily it doesn't have any exposed wiring so I'm good.
I wait 10 min total in the comfy bed and she comes back. She gets undressed and starts to kiss. She does not hold back, she is very passionate and kisses like a GF would. I know it's going to be a good session. She asks me what I like and she is super good. Her head game is strong and she really enjoys giving. We bang in a bunch of positions, she has a small innie pussy and it's hot. Like you can feel the warmth. I finally finish on her tits and we clean up. We talk for about 15 min or so and she is impressed with my Spanish. She tells me she won't be here much longer as she is going to make a move out of the country. You got maybe 4 months left to see her. As I was sitting down waiting for my taxi I saw angel. She greeted me, gave me a peak and said am I coming or going? Next time bby. In conclusion, purple elixir is the move and my go to casa. It used to be energy but they started churning out everyone so I think a place of good regulars is better. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2976557]
[URL]https://elixirpurpura.com/o_models/tiffany/[/URL]
Purple elixir is surly becoming my new fav casa. You can tell the vibe is right, there is a more casual loose feel and comfort I have. It's not a crazy rotation of girls either which I think I prefer now. Something farmilar.
[/QUOTE]What is the street location please? I see the phone number on their website, but no address.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2976710]What is the street location please? I see the phone number on their website, but no address.[/QUOTE]Cl. 30A #83b-45
But don't trust street view in google because its off by a block. Here is the front door.
Just got back to medellin after a week in Bogotá. Went to el Centro and it was a ghost town compared to early January same with lleras park the last 2 nights. Did a raid or round up happen that there are so few girls out and about? Messaged up my favorite Centro girl I know and we met and she told me she is going home right after the deed. Lots of police in the area.
ArmnHammer: to answer your question directly, war, hot open warfare has returned to Colombia and it is affecting Medellin. Gangs and paramilitaries in the barrios have imposed a curfew and even though the police and military are out in force the locals know the massive police and army presence will eventually go away leaving them vulnerable if they break the curfew.
So now you know why the streets are quiet: the locals are scared, paraphrasing your post's title, to death.
In short, the "golden age of peace" in Colombia is over and the country is returning to its historically violent roots.
Caveat emptor. Proceed at your own risk.
Those who can leave have left or are preparing to leave.
If you don't believe me, ok. But you have been duly informed and forewarned.
[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2977186]Just got back to medellin after a week in Bogot. Went to el Centro and it was a ghost town compared to early January same with lleras park the last 2 nights. Did a raid or round up happen that there are so few girls out and about? Messaged up my favorite Centro girl I know and we met and she told me she is going home right after the deed. Lots of police in the area.[/QUOTE]
Hello all,
Longtime user / poster in the USA portion. First time posting or requesting in the international. I am in Medellin for a week. I have done attempted to do my homework on the scene here, but it still seems a little overwhelming. I'm staying at a nice airbnb in parques llera which I learned at checkout today there will be a security guard checking ID and passport at the front. Visitors allowed but no "sex tourism". Well shit, one of the reasons why I got such a nice place so close-the add did not mention security or anything about sex tourism.
Long story short, was hoping for.
Some recommendations. So far, chicks in the street of the Parque asking 300-350. Some say come to my place and others say room for another 90 k. Not to be a cheap bastard, but seems more.
Than I was expecting considering the amount of chicas. But maybe I have been hanging in Tijuana and Mexicali too long.
Questions:
What is the going rate?
Are all these massage places legit massages or are they like the states where tips get you some fun?
Any suggestions on brothels?
Thanks in advance gentleman. I will of course be posting my experiences in order to share the wealth.
Woah it's this bad? When did all this happen? I was thinking about heading down in a few weeks, glad I checked this site.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2977214]ArmnHammer: to answer your question directly, war, hot open warfare has returned to Colombia and it is affecting Medellin. Gangs and paramilitaries in the barrios have imposed a curfew and even though the police and military are out in force the locals know the massive police and army presence will eventually go away leaving them vulnerable if they break the curfew.
So now you know why the streets are quiet: the locals are scared, paraphrasing your post's title, to death.
In short, the "golden age of peace" in Colombia is over and the country is returning to its historically violent roots.
Caveat emptor. Proceed at your own risk.
Those who can leave have left or are preparing to leave.
If you don't believe me, ok. But you have been duly informed and forewarned.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2977214]ArmnHammer: to answer your question directly, war, hot open warfare has returned to Colombia and it is affecting Medellin. Gangs and paramilitaries in the barrios have imposed a curfew and even though the police and military are out in force the locals know the massive police and army presence will eventually go away leaving them vulnerable if they break the curfew.
So now you know why the streets are quiet: the locals are scared, paraphrasing your post's title, to death.
In short, the "golden age of peace" in Colombia is over and the country is returning to its historically violent roots.
Caveat emptor. Proceed at your own risk.
Those who can leave have left or are preparing to leave.
If you don't believe me, ok. But you have been duly informed and forewarned.[/QUOTE]It sounds like more than just a few scammers, thieves and scopolamine incidents. Actually getting dangerous? Or not? How about Poblado?
[QUOTE=Ocdude714;2977397]Hello all,
Longtime user / poster in the USA portion. First time posting or requesting in the international. I am in Medellin for a week. I have done attempted to do my homework on the scene here, but it still seems a little overwhelming. I'm staying at a nice airbnb in parques llera which I learned at checkout today there will be a security guard checking ID and passport at the front. Visitors allowed but no "sex tourism". Well shit, one of the reasons why I got such a nice place so close-the add did not mention security or anything about sex tourism.
Long story short, was hoping for.
Some recommendations. So far, chicks in the street of the Parque asking 300-350. Some say come to my place and others say room for another 90 k. Not to be a cheap bastard, but seems more.
Than I was expecting considering the amount of chicas. But maybe I have been hanging in Tijuana and Mexicali too long.[/QUOTE]There's a few pieces of information for you just on this front page alone. Also go back and read a few more pages or more. You would be surprised on what you can find by just RTFF.
Acts of war, street crimes, drugging robberies, it is a dangerous world here. I had a mileroticos apt girl I met before Christmas over this week. She was better before Christmas.
The week before I stopped into Aiffe. I've never seen it worse. Maybe Purple Elixir has a lock on worthwhile girls I wondered. Plan be was Seccy Amigas, all good there with a "new to me" girl.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2977493]It sounds like more than just a few scammers, thieves and scopolamine incidents. Actually getting dangerous? Or not? How about Poblado?[/QUOTE]
Hey Fellas,
I am heading to Medellin on Monday and staying for a few weeks. I haven't been there for a few years, but still remember how its done and have my Facebook stacked. Last time I stayed in El Poblado at the Leblon hotel and enjoyed it. This time I am looking at some other hotels and potentially other areas in the city. If anyone had any good experiences with some good stays hit me up. O also if anyone wants to meet up and get a drink let me know.
What a waste of! Bad service nothing like the photos.
180 K + 50 K oral natural.
Diana.
https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/diana3222736436
Ok so the mid afternoon delight bug hit me and I was looking for something different.
I found this gothy tatto red head with new fake tits that is in Belen right near unicentro.
I head over and say I might be early and she is like "yeah please come it's fine" I'll get you right away! . She says she works independently and it's an apartment.
I arrive and I'm waiting on the street like a mark! I REALLY hate waiting in front of an apartment especially in a flat road like Belen or Laurles. I'm not giving papaya and keep looking over my shoulder, every time I see a moto coming I am prepared to just throw my phone where it's not accessible and get it later.
After 5 VERY long minutes a girl comes down there dressed in super baggy sweats and a baggy t shirt. An outfit that resembles Vincent and Jules when they were dressed like dorks.
I was like is this her? It is! Fuck, we walk up the stairs that is 3 flights and into a hotel / apartment that moonlights as a jail cell. The metal roof clanged as a ceiling fan rattled waiting to set free from it's loosely placed bolts.
She asks how long and in thinking as she takes off her clothes something cool is Underneath. There wasn't. She has no change and all I have is large bills. So I get her to do 150 K all in for oral natural and some boining for a qucike.
She starts to tug on me and not realty being too passionate. I did enjoy her freshly baked bolt ONS as they stood up solid and and she gave a half suave half duro BJ. After her.
Bi-polar oral she put the rubber on and hopped on top. Her moans were faker than her tits. She is tiny but her pussy was kinda deep. I get in top on the edge of the bed. Then bang her a bit sideways. I'm calling her a little freckled * and I want to nut on her tits but she is like "additional" fuck that! I nutted in rubber, cleaned up and left faster than Carl Lewis.
Please skip this provider, there is also something wrong with her eye. Drugs, lazy or just dumb.
Hard pass.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2977625]After 5 VERY long minutes a girl comes down there dressed in super baggy sweats and a baggy t shirt. An outfit that resembles Vincent and Jules when they were dressed like dorks.
I was like is this her? It is! Fuck, we walk up the stairs that is 3 flights and into a hotel / apartment that moonlights as a jail cell. The metal roof clanged as a ceiling fan rattled waiting to set free from it's loosely placed bolts.
Please skip this provider, there is also something wrong with her eye. Drugs, lazy or just dumb.[/QUOTE]Great reports. Yeah she looks crazy. Can't take a picture without having a finger in her mouth.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2977549]There's a few pieces of information for you just on this front page alone. Also go back and read a few more pages or more. You would be surprised on what you can find by just RTFF.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Did a little more research. Got some great info.
From my experience last 2 nights. Will share.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2977885]As someone who speak Spanish and talks to locals every day and watches the news I can tell you without a doubt that the hate people in Medellin have for tourists right now is at an all time high. In Thailand and the Philippines, the locals welcome you with open arms, and you don't have to be worried about getting drugged or robbed by locals who rejoice when gringos are murdered. Yes there are tolerated zones that are propped up because some businesses fought back but the general sentiment among local is disgust and resentment.
It's not just 'no sex tourists' signs at the airport or airbnbs. It's not just the mayor making speeches practically every week vowing to stop gringos. It is now a deep source of frustration for the locals who are blaming all of the gentrification on foreigners whether it has to do with them or not. The hatred that locals have for foreigners is what allows them to drug and kill tourists without remorse. I'm so tired of people on youtube who want you to sign up for their Patreon and others on these forms that completely downplay the negatives. Tell the truth, let people make their own informed decisions. If this form was honest, every other post would be a story about somebody getting robbed or drugged because it literally happens every day in this city.
2 major streamers just got drugged on stream and people only know about it because it happened on camera. Thats daily life in the city.[/QUOTE]If you know people that rejoice and have no remorse when foreigners are murdered then you should reconsider the company you keep. Also, you don't seem too concerned about it yourself. By your own statements, it's almost like you don't have any concerns about their actions and you don't even show a bit of sympathy towards the victims. It's like you understand the locals point of view. Just an observation Bud.
Just returned from Cali which reminded of my first trips to Medellin 20 years ago. Hardly any gringos and locals don't look at you as if you are a monger. Not as many hookers as Meddy but I nabbed one of the hottest Colombians I've ever had to date there.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2978080]It seems unlikely any of us are acquainted with enough people and what they are thinking to know what the "locals point of view" is.[/QUOTE]If anyone would know it would be the Centro Rats. There are far more less income individuals than there are high income individuals so the lower income spectrum is the majority as in most countries. 2 week millionaires come and go and are expected in the tourist areas and easier to tolerate since they will be gone soon. The higher income locals are less likely to say anything demeaning to the tourists and friends at the higher income will be too nice to tell you (the tourist) the truth. But the lower income are more likely to voice their opinions to tourists. The Rats play, sleep, and eat in Centro and thus are seen and known from a distance by people working in Centro. The Rats also stay longer.
I was a Centro Rat who stayed 6 months at a time for 3 visits. Left December 2023 and not returned. At that time none of the headlines of underage stuff were happening. Nothing was ever said to me but I felt a slight dislike coming from a few of the locals which I am sure would be far worse now which is one of the reasons I have not returned.
Yours if my favorite post of the day so far, by a lot. .
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2978162]If I took your advice I would never get laid! My conduct is reprehensible, I engage with dishonorable **** women, and exercise whenever I can. Thank you for your advice, Father.[/QUOTE]
Hi fellow mongers.
Where do you think is the easiest place in South America (if any) to have bareback sex with a cutie latina spinner? By easiest, I mean easy like in the Philippines or Madagascar for those who know those places.
Drop your recommendations please.
Not only the Puta prices would drop. OMG maybe they will stop building 5 star hotels! One can only hope.
[QUOTE=BlackPantherXX;2978460]Hi fellow mongers.
Where do you think is the easiest place in South America (if any) to have bareback sex with a cutie latina spinner? By easiest, I mean easy like in the Philippines or Madagascar for those who know those places.
Drop your recommendations please.[/QUOTE]There is nowhere in all of Latin America where it is as easy to get bareback as it is in the Philippines. Good luck with that though!
It was the right thing to cave it was a stupid argument.
The ironic thing is that America asks to take certain Colombian criminals to jail. Any of these Narco Guerrilla Leaders get a free trip to the states despite never living in the states by Uncle Sam.
As an expat tariffs would hurt me as a buy my electronics from the states not Colombia (even though some Kalley products aren't bad). This is what diplomacy is for Petro objected to them being brought back on C5 Galaxies but fine with them being handcuffed on a 757.
Shit was a dick measuring contest from the beginning.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2977632]Great reports. Yeah she looks crazy. Can't take a picture without having a finger in her mouth.[/QUOTE]Yeah I dunno what I was thinking to select her to to be honest! Maybe to be different. I didn't realize always fingers in her mouth! Prob one of the worst experience past 5 years.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2978549]There is nowhere in all of Latin America where it is as easy to get bareback as it is in the Philippines. Good luck with that though![/QUOTE]Ok. Thank you.
I think I'm just going to focus offering extra cash here in Colombia for the service.
Feel like I saw the same post in most other countries forums and thought I was going crazy but then realized that yes you are posting on most countries forums LOL. I'm guessing you're planning your trip based on what country gets the better results?? I don't specifically engage in bareback with working girls but from all the countries I've visited nothing beats SEA for the ability to do this with little to no work. However, let's be honest. If you don't practice personal hygiene, you don't look good or at least take care of yourself, unless you have the ability to talk to the girls (speaking the same language isn't a priority but it does help) and if you don't have the ability to pay for it then nowhere is going to get you reliable, good BB even in SEA. I've had the ability to go BB twice in Colombia (Bogota) but it wasn't something that I negotiated at the beginning it happened during the time in the room. One girl didn't care and just spread her legs open after both condoms she had we used and I needed a 3rd one and the 2nd time it happened the girl asked for 200 k more for BB anal (she didn't want me to bb her pussy) which I declined because I was doing fine covered in her pussy and was going to unload on her tits anyways.
Are you getting bareback currently with good results? If you're not going to enjoy your time unless you go BB I would personally just go back to SEA and spend your money there however, Probably your best bet for most South American countries is seeking but personally can't be bothered spending time doing that. Good luck and post back your results.
[QUOTE=BlackPantherXX;2978460]Hi fellow mongers.
Where do you think is the easiest place in South America (if any) to have bareback sex with a cutie latina spinner? By easiest, I mean easy like in the Philippines or Madagascar for those who know those places.
Drop your recommendations please.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2978692]Feel like I saw the same post in most other countries forums and thought I was going crazy but then realized that yes you are posting on most countries forums LOL. I'm guessing you're planning your trip based on what country gets the better results?? I don't specifically engage in bareback with working girls but from all the countries I've visited nothing beats SEA for the ability to do this with little to no work. However, let's be honest. If you don't practice personal hygiene, you don't look good or at least take care of yourself, unless you have the ability to talk to the girls (speaking the same language isn't a priority but it does help) and if you don't have the ability to pay for it then nowhere is going to get you reliable, good BB even in SEA. I've had the ability to go BB twice in Colombia (Bogota) but it wasn't something that I negotiated at the beginning it happened during the time in the room. One girl didn't care and just spread her legs open after both condoms she had we used and I needed a 3rd one and the 2nd time it happened the girl asked for 200 k more for BB anal (she didn't want me to bb her pussy) which I declined because I was doing fine covered in her pussy and was going to unload on her tits anyways.
Are you getting bareback currently with good results? If you're not going to enjoy your time unless you go BB I would personally just go back to SEA and spend your money there however, Probably your best bet for most South American countries is seeking but personally can't be bothered spending time doing that. Good luck and post back your results.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input. Yes I plan my trip based on where I could get the most results. LOL. An posted on different forums as they are specific to countries (can't post Cuba question on Colombia thread for example). I think wherever I will decide to go, I will just increase the offer and see how it goes. Aint planning to use 'seeking', might be expensive and time consuming. Will be posting results.
A penthouse suite and free massages? What do you smoke?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2978793]Why wouldn't they? My visitor status has been checked by the authorities a couple of times while out and about in Colombia. Do you think they would have given me a penthouse suite and free massages had I not been in compliance?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2978841]A penthouse suite and free massages? What do you smoke?[/QUOTE]It seems you are the one smoking by saying that foreigners doing illegal stuff where it concerns the USA should not face the consequences that await them. Then you come here and assume people would not have a problem with Americans doing illegal stuff in Colombia, but nobody has leaned that way. (How could you even think that anyone would?) Everyone here has said that people doing illegal shit no matter where it is should face consequences. This is not about nationality. This is about mfs breaking laws regardless of where they are from.
If you are a guest in someone's house then you be on your best behavior. If someone does not allow you into their house, then you can not sneak in and expect there to not be consequences. And the consequences at this time are only being sent back home. The man put earlier that they could have actually faced 6 months in jail and a $2000 fine. It seems they got off light, but for some reason mfs do not mind looking a gift horse in the mouth.
What a worthless thread.
I came here two weeks ago for dental work and fun, staying at Hotel Nutibara. So far, the Cento scene is better than I expected. I start in the mid-afternoon for coffee, food, and walking about. It feels safe enough that I sometimes don't go back until around 10 pm.
Generally, there seem to be around 50-60 girls milling about in the plaza and by the church, give or take, and some more working out of the bars on Carrera 53. As we all know, the average quality is below that of Parque Lleras but there are gems here and there, especially on busier days. Prices seem consistent at 50 mil for 30 minutes and 12 mil for one of the nearby rooms. Almost all the girls are from Venezuela. Are there any Paisas or Colombians still working in Medellin? Where does one find them?
So far, I have not been aware of any bad vibes or attitudes at my being a gringo. The main client base is older local guys, though I see small groups of foreigners here and there, including around the bench area mentioned in this thread. A fun place to people-watch outside the plaza is the open-air drinking joint on the corner of Calle 51 (the alley next to the church) and Carrera 53. Safety goes down once you exit Calle 51 and walk along Carrera 53 so I wouldn't do that after sundown. But overall, the scene seems like a safer and more relaxed version of Santa Fe in Bogota.
Last Sunday, I went to Parque Lleras with three Canadians I chatted with the day before in Centro. They had come for a week and rented a three-bedroom girl-friendly jacuzzi apartment in the heart of Poblado near Provenza. Even though Sunday was supposed to be a slow day, I was blown away by the number of girls and the quality of some of them. Over 100 girls in the park and spilling out around the area.
My friends had taken several of them to their apartment over the last few days. Opening bids were 400 mil; they got some for 300 or 350 an hour. Some of the girls stayed longer without charge. Between the three of them, they probably took around 8-9 of those girls over four days, and it sounds like only 2 were complete duds (one wanted to leave after 15 minutes). In case it makes any difference, two guys were Chinese Canadians, and one was black; all aged 35-40 ish. One even had a 4-hour session with a Lleras girl, but I don't know if he got a good discount off the hourly rate.
We also went to Fase II when it opened at 9 pm and stayed for over an hour. Girls trickled in, and by the time we left, there were about 15 milling about the tables and bar. We didn't see a strip show, but we talked to a few of them, and the quality was pretty good. Prices were 400 mil for 45 minutes in an on-site private room with the girl and 200 mil for four songs with private lap dances.
If you are very budget-minded, you can get fan rooms at Nutibara for $30 a night net. Otherwise, the nicer rooms with A/C are $40-45. The Mandela Hotel, inside the plaza, looks decent for this area, and it's even cheaper.
Most of what I have shared here might be common knowledge for many of you. But I'm giving this short report in case it's useful for some of the less experienced guys.
If anyone is interested in meeting up to visit more places here, day or night, just PM me.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2978993]I came here two weeks ago for dental work and fun, staying at Hotel Nutibara. So far, the Cento scene is better than I expected. I start in the mid-afternoon for coffee, food, and walking about. It feels safe enough that I sometimes don't go back until around 10 pm.
Generally, there seem to be around 50-60 girls milling about in the plaza and by the church, give or take, and some more working out of the bars on Carrera 53. As we all know, the average quality is below that of Parque Lleras but there are gems here and there, especially on busier days. Prices seem consistent at 50 mil for 30 minutes and 12 mil for one of the nearby rooms. Almost all the girls are from Venezuela. Are there any Paisas or Colombians still working in Medellin? Where does one find them?
So far, I have not been aware of any bad vibes or attitudes at my being a gringo...[/QUOTE]Do you take ladies from the street back to Hotel Nutibara, or go to a short time hotel?
Thank you for this, it is a really nice fact based report. I think it will help a lot of people.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2978993]I came here two weeks ago for dental work and fun, staying at Hotel Nutibara. So far, the Cento scene is better than I expected. I start in the mid-afternoon for coffee, food, and walking about. It feels safe enough that I sometimes don't go back until around 10 pm.
Generally, there seem to be around 50-60 girls milling about in the plaza and by the church, give or take, and some more working out of the bars on Carrera 53. As we all know, the average quality is below that of Parque Lleras but there are gems here and there, especially on busier days. Prices seem consistent at 50 mil for 30 minutes and 12 mil for one of the nearby rooms. Almost all the girls are from Venezuela. Are there any Paisas or Colombians still working in Medellin? Where does one find them?
So far, I have not been aware of any bad vibes or attitudes at my being a gringo. The main client base is older local guys, though I see small groups of foreigners here and there, including around the bench area mentioned in this thread. A fun place to people-watch outside the plaza is the open-air drinking joint on the corner of Calle 51 (the alley next to the church) and Carrera 53. Safety goes down once you exit Calle 51 and walk along Carrera 53 so I wouldn't do that after sundown...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2978936]..... Removing the 14,000,000 illegal aliens who came into the USA illegally during the Biden years and closing the border is one of the main reasons Trump won the election and flipped the Senate Republican. The American people are tired of this BS!......[/QUOTE]This would certainly raise some native American eyebrows.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2979064]Hmm, maybe because I know of Americans that over stay there stay??
Same to you A- hole!![/QUOTE]So you know a couple of overstaying idiots and think that is statistically significant. You can't fix stupid and I don't try any more.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2979065]Not true, many Americans overstay their stay because they have low paying jobs back in the states and with what they have in savings they can live much better in Medellin[/QUOTE]So, genius, if they have such low paying jobs, how did they save enough money for international travel?
Nice report with some useful details. I will be Medellin next month. Hope we can catch up and get your further advice if you will still be there. Thanks.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2978993]I came here two weeks ago for dental work and fun, staying at Hotel Nutibara. So far, the Cento scene is better than I expected. I start in the mid-afternoon for coffee, food, and walking about. It feels safe enough that I sometimes don't go back until around 10 pm.
Generally, there seem to be around 50-60 girls milling about in the plaza and by the church, give or take, and some more working out of the bars on Carrera 53. As we all know, the average quality is below that of Parque Lleras but there are gems here and there, especially on busier days. Prices seem consistent at 50 mil for 30 minutes and 12 mil for one of the nearby rooms. Almost all the girls are from Venezuela. Are there any Paisas or Colombians still working in Medellin? Where does one find them?
So far, I have not been aware of any bad vibes or attitudes at my being a gringo. The main client base is older local guys, though I see small groups of foreigners here and there, including around the bench area mentioned in this thread. A fun place to people-watch outside the plaza is the open-air drinking joint on the corner of Calle 51 (the alley next to the church) and Carrera 53. Safety goes down once you exit Calle 51 and walk along Carrera 53 so I wouldn't do that after sundown. But overall, the scene seems like a safer and more relaxed version of Santa Fe in Bogota..[/QUOTE]
Back in Medellíand!
A quick tip: never select "accept conversion" at the ATM. Always choose "decline conversion. " This morning, I saved about 35 bucks on an approx $480 withdrawal. I took out 2 million COP, and the fee for using a Davivienda ATM was 26,000 COP.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2978993]My friends had taken several of them to their apartment over the last few days. Opening bids were 400 mil; they got some for 300 or 350 an hour. Some of the girls stayed longer without charge. Between the three of them, they probably took around 8-9 of those girls over four days, and it sounds like only 2 were complete duds (one wanted to leave after 15 minutes). In case it makes any difference, two guys were Chinese Canadians, and one was black; all aged 35-40 ish. One even had a 4-hour session with a Lleras girl, but I don't know if he got a good discount off the hourly rate.[/QUOTE]Good report. Just a note here, you generally have two options with the Lleras scene.
1) Short time. This is the one hour charge. Essentially, it means you will take a girl back to your place, chat for a short period of time, and get down to business. Expect one to maybe 2 hours of time spent with the girl and 1 pop. You can chat beforehand, but she will eventually nudge you to get moving and do the business. Don't expect multiple shots and don't expect her to stick around very long after your first pop.
2) Long time - "All night", "toda la noche". This is a multi-hour session. She will generally stay all night, or maybe until way early in the morning (to get back home to kids or something. They will stay all night and sleep for a bit if you insist, though). If you let them, the girls may try to wiggle out and leave after the first pop, but I've found that most girls either don't try to leave too early or are don't argue if I request more time. The going rate for an all-night session should be double the hourly rate. If a girl says it's 400 k for an hour, then expect a quote between 700 k-1 million depending on much she thinks she can get you for. I find that most will easily negotiate down to double their short time price.
You should never be paying for a 4 hour session like you would in the US / Canada / West / Mainland Asia, unless you specifically use online escort agencies or massage parlor joints. If you want to extend time, just move from short time to long time, don't bring up an hourly rate extension.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2978993]I came here two weeks ago for dental work and fun, staying at Hotel Nutibara. So far, the Cento scene is better than I expected. I start in the mid-afternoon for coffee, food, and walking about. It feels safe enough that I sometimes don't go back until around 10 pm.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. You may think it's mostly common knowledge, but there's a lot of good information in that report.
Hey guys came in two days ago and honestly, I don't see what the fuss it about the Colombians hating the gringo's. Now I bet there is some anger towards them, but as a guy who can't speak much Spanish, I have had no issues so far. That said this is my second time here so I know a bit. One thing that has changed is the Facebook girls are mostly unavailable from my experience, they are either out of the country or asking for some outrageous prices. That said the Park is still pretty good with a lot of girls. One thing I will say is that I am not a fan of Heiss Hotel. These guys are acting pretty strict with their visitor policy so be careful of this one. Last time I used Leblon hotel and had no issues. If anyones in the city and looking to meet up for a beer, let me know.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2979171]2) Long time - "All night",[b]"toda la noche"[/b][/QUOTE]I think that is a gringo term. The locals will usually say "amanecida".
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2979204]I think that is a gringo term. The locals will usually say "amanecida".[/QUOTE]Good to know. As a gringo, "toda la noche" has served very well in most every south american country and is an easy translation that most non-spanish speakers can remember. But it always goes to show how there are obvious tells to a gringo, even if that person might speak spanish very well or pass in looks.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2979367]Good to know. As a gringo, "toda la noche" has served very well in most every south american country and is an easy translation that most non-spanish speakers can remember. But it always goes to show how there are obvious tells to a gringo, even if that person might speak spanish very well or pass in looks.[/QUOTE]"Toda de la noche" was used quite liberally by the Colombianas in Costa Rica when I used to go there a lot.
Had a nice trip down in December around the holidays. Lots of great information found on this page, and a few very helpful members made me look forward to my return visit!
Activities:
Night one. Prearranged girl recommended by a frequent poster. Had a good time. No complaints, easy, direct to my room. Hotel du Parc seems to have no issues with a single visitor (135 mll for extras).
Night 2: Loutron. HIGHLY recommend, esp for newbies. Beautiful women, amazing set up, felt super safe with my shitty Spanish. Probably my favorite session.
Day 3: them massage: handy only, but oh my. Again, strong recommendation. Prebooked their recommendation and walked over. Easy access. Showed up, paid, and the lovely lady got me ready. Nice full body sensual massage with a weird use of a feather (for each their own). On the flip, nice nude face to face massage, then onto the handy. She placed her pussy for easy access to my hands which was a nice touch, and after a bit, grabbed my hand, took two fingers and put them inside her. SWEET! I have trouble finishing that was so in defense of my penis and her time, I took matters into my hand and she then crouched at my side and played with me while riding my thumb that was buried in her box. If you can't get FS. Not a bad way to go!
Night 3: Santa's Spa. Late arrival, didn't prebook anyone, just verified availability. Showed up, girl met me at door and led me upstairs. No lineup. She was more than acceptable, just a bit more T+A than my preference. AMAZING cocksucker. I usually don't ask for an extended session of that, but she put her head back on my thighs and kept it going. Little bit of a dive place, only real downside was when we finished she didn't put on new sheets, just straightened the bed as we talked:
Day 4: Heading out of town, so went quick an easy to Jade Palace. It was easy and quick, but probably wouldn't repeat unless only option. Attendant gave a mediocre massage and service.
For my last day, arranged a meeting with say 1 girl and for her to bring a friend. Actually ended up being a bit of a pain (lost papers, excuse after excuse, friend bailed, I need more money, etc, uber more expensive on Christmas). Finally said to cancel when she said 'No I'm on my way' Solo session, fun but not the amazing repeat that I was hoping for (no crazy chemistry). When she was leaving, she said that her friend was suddenly available if I wanted her to come over! I declined, cut losses and went out for drinks with another ISG buddy!
Hope this helps some newbies. My ISG friend that I hung out with used Seeking with amazing success. May try that next time.
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Night 2: Loutron. HIGHLY recommend, esp for newbies. Beautiful women, amazing set up, felt super safe with my shitty Spanish. Probably my favorite session.
[/QUOTE]Please elaborate on Loutron: What night of the week? What time of day? How many girls presented for you? How many were trashy, with tattoos, silicone? How many were natural? Did you use the notebook and pencil to write down your favorites? Did the lovely you selected try to upsell in the room? Was she successful? How many positions were included in the standard price? What is the base price now? Everything is covered, unless you pay how much? Thanks,
[QUOTE=TheCane;2979372]"Toda de la noche" was used quite liberally by the Colombianas in Costa Rica when I used to go there a lot.[/QUOTE]I heard toda la noche alot in Mexico but when I started going to Bogota and later to Medellin I quickly picked up the word "amanecida" from the vennies. It comes from the word amanecer meaning to wake up. You may have heard "como amanecio?" in Medellin it means how do you awaken.
-Gabacho.
[QUOTE=Ricki01;2979198]Hey guys came in two days ago and honestly, I don't see what the fuss it about the Colombians hating the gringo's. Now I bet there is some anger towards them, but as a guy who can't speak much Spanish, I have had no issues so far.[/QUOTE]Maybe you are blending in so good that they can not tell you are a gringo.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2979372]"Toda de la noche" was used quite liberally by the Colombianas in Costa Rica when I used to go there a lot.[/QUOTE]Been to every Spanish speaking country in South and Central America and have never heard 'amanecida' or 'dawn. '.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2979372]"Toda de la noche" was used quite liberally by the Colombianas in Costa Rica when I used to go there a lot.[/QUOTE]It is like when I first started going to Rio. All the hookers would say bambinos because the gringos would say bambinos. Bambino is Italian, not Portuguese. (I think the same was happening with the word chicas there.) Brazilians do not normally say that.
I think it is the same with the money. Here in the Philippines the other night I was talking with a girl I knew. I forget what we were talking about, but she was talking in dollars. I asked her why she was talking in dollars and not in pesos. She said because most foreigners do not understand pesos. And I have been told the same by chicks in Colombia. So yes, something may be used quite liberally with gringos, but that is probably more so because they have realized that is what the gringo understands better and not because it is something from their usual lexicon.
(It is not that the chicks are trying to rip you off by talking in dollars, but more so because so many foreigners they have come across do not understand pesos and have to bring out a calculator.).
It is the same with toda la noche. When you are around the ones that do not come into contact with many gringos, you will hear amanecida, not toda la noche. If you are looking online at ads you will also see amanecida, not toda la noche. Back home we probably would not ask our girlfriends to "come over for all night"; we would ask them to "come spend the night". Subtle, but that is the difference.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2979444]It is like when I first started going to Rio. All the hookers would say bambinos because the gringos would say bambinos. Bambino is Italian, not Portuguese. (I think the same was happening with the word chicas there.) Brazilians do not normally say that.
I think it is the same with the money. Here in the Philippines the other night I was talking with a girl I knew. I forget what we were talking about, but she was talking in dollars. I asked her why she was talking in dollars and not in pesos. She said because most foreigners do not understand pesos. And I have been told the same by chicks in Colombia. So yes, something may be used quite liberally with gringos, but that is probably more so because they have realized that is what the gringo understands better and not because it is something from their usual lexicon.
(It is not that the chicks are trying to rip you off by talking in dollars, but more so because so many foreigners they have come across do not understand pesos and have to bring out a calculator.)..[/QUOTE]I get what you're saying. But I lived and worked around and played with Colombianas for a solid four years in Central and South America, including Colombia itself, and I don't recall ever hearing or seeing that word. That's a long enough time that I think if it were that common I would recall hearing it used or seeing it written, but I don't (shrugs). By the way, I have never thought someone was trying to rip me off just because they gave me a price in dollars. Of course they're doing it because they're interacting with a foreigner. For me it's never been a problem. Let the buyer beware. And let the buyer know the exchange rates and proceed accordingly!
Which Spa are you talking about for this review please?
[QUOTE=LR123;2979399]…..
Day 3: them massage: handy only, but oh my. Again, strong recommendation. Prebooked their recommendation and walked over. Easy access. Showed up, paid, and the lovely lady got me ready. Nice full body sensual massage with a weird use of a feather (for each their own). On the flip, nice nude face to face massage, then onto the handy. She placed her pussy for easy access to my hands which was a nice touch, and after a bit, grabbed my hand, took two fingers and put them inside her. SWEET! I have trouble finishing that was so in defense of my penis and her time, I took matters into my hand and she then crouched at my side and played with me while riding my thumb that was buried in her box. If you can't get FS. Not a bad way to go!.[/QUOTE]
The very first time that I heard the word "Bambino" used in that context was said by a local in the Dominican Republic.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2979403]Please elaborate on Loutron: What night of the week? What time of day? How many girls presented for you? How many were trashy, with tattoos, silicone? How many were natural? Did you use the notebook and pencil to write down your favorites? Did the lovely you selected try to upsell in the room? Was she successful? How many positions were included in the standard price? What is the base price now? Everything is covered, unless you pay how much? Thanks,[/QUOTE]I have not visited Loutron just yet and no expert however I believe it is one of the more upscale casas in Medellin. Energy I have been to a few times and really like. I can't wait to visit MDE again (first trip in 2005, last trip the end of 2019 before it "all went down" Now I scared of all the gringos being drugged / robbed and some killed from poor date choices however I never liked dating via social media just a see and meet "casa" man! .
[QUOTE=Huacho;2979441]Been to every Spanish speaking country in South and Central America and have never heard 'amanecida' or 'dawn. '.[/QUOTE]They most definitely use Amanecida in Colombia which means "hasta la amanecida."
Better not to commit to amanecida until you're tried her out short-time.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2979581]I get what you're saying. But I lived and worked around and played with Colombianas for a solid four years in Central and South America, including Colombia itself, and I don't recall ever hearing or seeing that word. That's a long enough time that I think if it were that common I would recall hearing it used or seeing it written, but I don't (shrugs). By the way, I have never thought someone was trying to rip me off just because they gave me a price in dollars. Of course they're doing it because they're interacting with a foreigner. For me it's never been a problem. Let the buyer beware. And let the buyer know the exchange rates and proceed accordingly![/QUOTE]I never do business with anyone in any country quoting me in USD unless that is the official currency.
A short story I was living in Bogota for a while and needed a dentist Woodman posted one, so I went to him, my Espanol sucks and he speaks Ingles.
So off I went, I meet this guy and he's practically jumping up and down off of the ceiling when I start speaking in Ingles, I talk to him a while and tell him where I live and what I'm doing working there.
Yet he still starts mentioning prices in USD and I very sternly stopped him and said I don't live in the USA haven't in quite some time and I haven't seen USD in quite some time.
Tell me the prices in COP but as he's going thru my mouth he just keeps quoting in USD, they do this so you think in dollars, not COP, its not rocket science.
They are trying to manipulate your thinking, I probably asked him 10 times to give me the prices in COP but he absolutely refused so I went somewhere else.
So he rec'd ZERO COP from me and ZERO USD.
[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2979715]I have not visited Loutron just yet and no expert however I believe it is one of the more upscale casas in Medellin. Energy I have been to a few times and really like. I can't wait to visit MDE again (first trip in 2005, last trip the end of 2019 before it "all went down" Now I scared of all the gringos being drugged / robbed and some killed from poor date choices however I never liked dating via social media just a see and meet "casa" man! .[/QUOTE]It's been a year or so since I visited Loutron. If you prefer the casa scene, it is worth a visit. It's definitely a safe environment. It's overpriced, imo. But it's your money. I'd also say, in my experience, ymmv rules the day. I've had some good sessions, one great session and one really bad sesion. If I remember correctly, the price was somewhere around 400 k. My biggest criticism of the place? The quality. My best selection was an 8. Hard to complain about an 8. But in my opinion. I've not seen the quality others have reported. (Very subjective, of course.).
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[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;2979864]I never do business with anyone in any country quoting me in USD unless that is the official currency.
A short story I was living in Bogota for a while and needed a dentist Woodman posted one, so I went to him, my Espanol sucks and he speaks Ingles.
So off I went, I meet this guy and he's practically jumping up and down off of the ceiling when I start speaking in Ingles, I talk to him a while and tell him where I live and what I'm doing working there.
Yet he still starts mentioning prices in USD and I very sternly stopped him and said I don't live in the USA haven't in quite some time and I haven't seen USD in quite some time.
Tell me the prices in COP but as he's going thru my mouth he just keeps quoting in USD, they do this so you think in dollars, not COP, its not rocket science..[/QUOTE]I'm not joking. You're in control of your own mental faculties (if healthy). So, don't let some shifty shyster manipulate your mind. You wouldn't have needed him to tell you the price in pesos if you yourself understood the exchange rate. I say again let the buyer beware. And even more importantly, let the buyer know the exchange rate! You already didn't trust him. So why would you trust him to give you the correct rate in pesos? I ask you the same thing. Are you kidding me? People need to take charge by educating themselves. Most people aren't trying to scam you just because they quote a price in dollars. And if they are trying to rip you off, then [B]you[/B] protect yourself by knowing the appropriate exchange rate in advance.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;2979864]A short story I was living in Bogota for a while and needed a dentist Woodman posted one, so I went to him, my Espanol sucks and he speaks Ingles.
So off I went, I meet this guy and he's practically jumping up and down off of the ceiling when I start speaking in Ingles,[/QUOTE]My brother took his wife to Cali to get veneers because she had seen some dentist on Instagram that advertised to foreigners. Yeah that should have been the first clue. Of course the price was cheap from an American perspective, but outrageous from a Colombian perspective. At least she has not had any problem with the work and it has been a few years.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2980122]My brother took his wife to Cali to get veneers because she had seen some dentist on Instagram that advertised to foreigners. Yeah that should have been the first clue. Of course the price was cheap from an American perspective, but outrageous from a Colombian perspective. At least she has not had any problem with the work and it has been a few years.[/QUOTE]I don't want to pay a gringo surcharge just because they speak my language, I can get by w / o English, I have looked online for different services here and there and I invariably avoid websites.
That advertise We Speak English or We Accept USD EURO CAD Jaja no thanks.
The only way I would be interested is if they could convince me they were better and cheaper than everyone else.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2980122]My brother took his wife to Cali to get veneers because she had seen some dentist on Instagram that advertised to foreigners. Yeah that should have been the first clue. Of course the price was cheap from an American perspective, but outrageous from a Colombian perspective. At least she has not had any problem with the work and it has been a few years.[/QUOTE]I had a Brazilian sugar baby recommend her dentist who got her a complete set of all bright white teeth. Only problems I had were being unable to understand Portuguese, a severe gum infection from their temporary veneer strip, 4-5 repeat visits to redo the crown he did and a trip to a periodontist and my regular dentist for the gum infection. Now after 7 months the gum pain has gone down.
Imagine if I had gotten the work done in Cali, for a cheap price. How would I pay for the 4-5 repeat visits, airfare and hotel stays, to treat the resulting gum inflammation and crown problem?
And his dental assistant was a dentist from Cali who did some of the work. She had to be a dental assistant in the US because she was not licensed as a dentist yet in US.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2979441]Been to every Spanish speaking country in South and Central America and have never heard 'amanecida' or 'dawn. '.[/QUOTE]What about Guyana, Suriname and French Guiana.
Anyone here actually on the ground in Medellin?
I will be staying in Centro, and am looking for casas, clinicals, whatever they call them in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2980468]Anyone here actually on the ground in Medellin?
I will be staying in Centro, and am looking for casas, clinicals, whatever they call them in Colombia.[/QUOTE]There is a list of casa in the sub thread.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2980468]Anyone here actually on the ground in Medellin?
I will be staying in Centro, and am looking for casas, clinicals, whatever they call them in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Purple elixir is a popular option. Go to their page and you can contact them to make an appointment with one of the girls. I'm not sure if you can just walk-in to that place, I believe that it is appointment only.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2980468]Anyone here actually on the ground in Medellin?
I will be staying in Centro, and am looking for casas, clinicals, whatever they call them in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Elixir Purpura, Tantra, Playboy club, Conejitas Playmates, Ellas Erotic, and Sexy Amigas.
[QUOTE=Jimbox;2980507]There is a list of casa in the sub thread.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2787-Map-of-Casas-of-Centro-in-Medellin[/URL]
It's kind of elderly, but it's a start, thank you.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;2980407]What about Guyana, Suriname and French Guiana.[/QUOTE]What about them? They do not speak Spanish there and I have not been to them[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
[QUOTE=Sparky12;2980522]Elixir Purpura, Tantra, Playboy club, Conejitas Playmates, Ellas Erotic, and Sexy Amigas.[/QUOTE]He should not omit New Life, Energy and Loutron.
[QUOTE=Jimbox;2980506]The only problem I have in Colombia is that I never seem to have enough time or energy to meet more girls. Some of them get pissed off because I can only see them once.[/QUOTE]Sad to see so many tattoos. Maybe she was in prison and her cell mate did those. They are all the same color ink. Or maybe she was owned by the drug cartel. Makes me wonder.
[QUOTE=LR123;2979399]Had a nice trip down in December around the holidays. Lots of great information found on this page, and a few very helpful members made me look forward to my return visit!
Activities:
Night one. Prearranged girl recommended by a frequent poster. Had a good time. No complaints, easy, direct to my room. Hotel du Parc seems to have no issues with a single visitor (135 mll for extras).
Night 2: Loutron. HIGHLY recommend, esp for newbies. Beautiful women, amazing set up, felt super safe with my shitty Spanish. Probably my favorite session.
Day 3: them massage: handy only, but oh my. Again, strong recommendation. Prebooked their recommendation and walked over. Easy access. Showed up, paid, and the lovely lady got me ready. Nice full body sensual massage with a weird use of a feather (for each their own). On the flip, nice nude face to face massage, then onto the handy. She placed her pussy for easy access to my hands which was a nice touch, and after a bit, grabbed my hand, took two fingers and put them inside her. SWEET! I have trouble finishing that was so in defense of my penis and her time, I took matters into my hand and she then crouched at my side and played with me while riding my thumb that was buried in her box. If you can't get FS. Not a bad way to go!
Night 3: Santa's Spa. Late arrival, didn't prebook anyone, just verified availability. Showed up, girl met me at door and led me upstairs. No lineup. She was more than acceptable, just a bit more T+A than my preference. AMAZING cocksucker. I usually don't ask for an extended session of that, but she put her head back on my thighs and kept it going. Little bit of a dive place, only real downside was when we finished she didn't put on new sheets, just straightened the bed as we talked:
Day 4: Heading out of town, so went quick an easy to Jade Palace. It was easy and quick, but probably wouldn't repeat unless only option. Attendant gave a mediocre massage and service.
For my last day, arranged a meeting with say 1 girl and for her to bring a friend. Actually ended up being a bit of a pain (lost papers, excuse after excuse, friend bailed, I need more money, etc, uber more expensive on Christmas). Finally said to cancel when she said 'No I'm on my way' Solo session, fun but not the amazing repeat that I was hoping for (no crazy chemistry). When she was leaving, she said that her friend was suddenly available if I wanted her to come over! I declined, cut losses and went out for drinks with another ISG buddy!
Hope this helps some newbies. My ISG friend that I hung out with used Seeking with amazing success. May try that next time.[/QUOTE]Now just imagine if you lived in Medellin for 15 years like a handful of us on this forum / that's to say a very few, I am talking full time, also your a single mid aged fit gringo who enjoys Latinas, so too you have disposable income to travel and spend how you wish, over the course of a decade or more in Medellin you have tried all avenues of P4 P in Medellin and every other city and pueblo in Colombia for that matter and have seen the transformation of the various sources to find fresh girls, new stock every week, have a stable of friendly and over the top sensual paisas whom are reliable and trustworthy who are eager and just literally a text away / come on over in an hour and you get the best passionate sex in your lifetime and it only gets better with each and every visit!
By god I am a lucky man.
The Tall Man.
Hey all. I've gone back about 40 pages in the forum related to Medellin. Looking forward to my first trip during or after my trip!
Let me know if anyone else will be in town, would be happy to grab a drink and people watch around Lleras!
[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2969258]I've been spending Christmas and New Years in MDE for the past 5 years and simply put, I love it! I can see why many are apprehensive about being here during this time due to increased crime and girls flaking out with family events. And if you're a newbie, it's definitely one of the worst times to go, but for me it's the best time. I speak the language, immersed in the culture, and have done many barrio parties and family outings with chicas in Aranjuez, Buenos Aires, Manrique, and even up in Popular. And that's without even mentioning the North side. I've known a lot of the chicas for years (pre-Covid) and some I don't even mess with anymore, but they're fun to hang out with and would hook me up with new and cute barrio chicas that need some gringo money and I'll say to them, take my money honey! Better get them now before they turn jaded and spoiled by the passport bros / weekend warriors / poblado papis.
BTW, I'm a fellow chino, in my 40's, and can pass as 30's. I definitely don't blend in and don't expect to be treated as a local. I'll always be the typical "gringo with money" to the barrio folks, but they're friendly, fun and filled with a thirst for guaro and I'm here for it! I love it when the grandmas introduce me to their fellow barrio neighbors and almost always there's a young hottie to meet. Don't get me wrong, I still hang out in Poblado / Lauleres spots for a nice dinner date, and as matter of fact those were the places I exclusively stayed at my first couple years here (before the gringo gold rush) and I've been coming here for over 10 years.
In closing, I just read a couple reports about the recent pricing out in Parque Lleras and the strip clubs. And it's crazy what the going rates are now. I'm just glad it doesn't affect what I pay and who I pay because I hunt in a whole different way. For those here right now, enjoy the 'hoe'lidays![/QUOTE]Thanks for the useful info. Fellow chino here going to Medellin for the first time in April. Having travelled in other LatAm countries, sometimes I get mixed reactions from the locals. Based on your experiences though it seems like we're well received in the area though. Much appreciate it if you have any specific advice but otherwise I'll be back after my trip to post reports.
Been in Medelland a few days been lurking a few weeks. Tried to post earlier but this forum was a little difficult to figure out. First day went to casa prpura saw a girl who was very pretty and friendly. She looked just like the pictures all activities were covered. We really hit it off and she ended up giving me her personal number and we hung out the next day at a mall.
Next day I was browsing a site for chicas en laureles (idk if I can say which site bc it has photos) I saw two I liked and messaged them both, turns out they both work at a place called casa aphrodite I believe. I ended up choosing melody, a pretty and petite venezolana. She gave amazing oral with a cover on, I'm pretty well endowed and she was able to get most of it, she could probably completely swallow 15 cm with ease. We ended up going through every position imaginable. After we were both satisfied we later there and talked for like an hour past out appointment. She was very intelligent and I honestly enjoyed the conversation.
I ended going to look around parque lleras, never felt so handsome in my life hahaha what an illusion. Also I'm sure this is common knowledge but all the clubs around there pay girls to dance and convince you to buy them drinks. I met two of them who were so nice that I didn't mind buying them a couple drinks but I saw how fast that it could add up if you're not paying attention or asking for prices. Anyways me and those 2 ended up going to get lunch the next day and we might make plans to visit some other places.
To be honest I was expecting really hot girls with less than average service here. Every one chica that I've met so far have all been super FRendly, great service besides the lack of GFE, and they all seemed like intelligent and genuine people. I must just be getting lucky. YMMV.
I'll be in town until Saturday if anyone would like to grab a beer let me know! I'm in laureles but will be hanging out in Provenza / parque lleras as well.
Let me know if why'all have any questions or recommendations.
[QUOTE=FeatherStepper;2981017]
To be honest I was expecting really hot girls with less than average service here. Every one chica that I've met so far have all been super FRendly, great service besides the lack of GFE, and they all seemed like intelligent and genuine people. I must just be getting lucky. YMMV.
[/QUOTE]Great first report FeatherStepper! Hope you will tell us more of your experiences. Can I guess you are somewhat age appropriate or speak spanish that these friendly chicas wanted to meet up at the mall and / or hang out for lunch with you? But yeah compared to the rest of the world the chicas in Medellin generally treat a guy like there's a possibility of him becoming a return customer. And often we are jaja. Regarding lack of GFE (you mean BBBJ right?) I think you need to be more assertive. It's generally not a problem for chicas in Medellin. Just tell them you enjoy oral a lot more without the latex on your dick. If they still hesitate ask them how much propina for chupar sin condon. Usually it's a low enough number to make an easy decision for you.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2981061]Great first report FeatherStepper! Hope you will tell us more of your experiences. Can I guess you are somewhat age appropriate or speak spanish that these friendly chicas wanted to meet up at the mall and / or hang out for lunch with you? But yeah compared to the rest of the world the chicas in Medellin generally treat a guy like there's a possibility of him becoming a return customer. And often we are jaja. Regarding lack of GFE (you mean BBBJ right?) I think you need to be more assertive. It's generally not a problem for chicas in Medellin. Just tell them you enjoy oral a lot more without the latex on your dick. If they still hesitate ask them how much propina for chupar sin condon. Usually it's a low enough number to make an easy decision for you.[/QUOTE]Thank you, I would say you're a good guesser! I'm also from a very popular place and many Colombians have never met someone from my country. It tends to spark interest, if I said I'm currently living in USA it would come with way more assumptions. My first thought is that they just want repeat business but surprisingly some of them just want to go out and have fun / try something new (for free of course). If you come out here you better at least TRY to speak and learn Spanish. Yes To me GFE would be BBBJ but also LFK / DFK. I plan on visiting someone who advertises those services and making sure that it's part of the deal.
[QUOTE=FeatherStepper;2981017]Been in Medelland a few days been lurking a few weeks. Tried to post earlier but this forum was a little difficult to figure out. First day went to casa prpura saw a girl who was very pretty and friendly. She looked just like the pictures all activities were covered. We really hit it off and she ended up giving me her personal number and we hung out the next day at a mall.
Next day I was browsing a site for chicas en laureles (idk if I can say which site bc it has photos) I saw two I liked and messaged them both, turns out they both work at a place called casa aphrodite I believe. I ended up choosing melody, a pretty and petite venezolana. She gave amazing oral with a cover on, I'm pretty well endowed and she was able to get most of it, she could probably completely swallow 15 cm with ease. We ended up going through every position imaginable. After we were both satisfied we later there and talked for like an hour past out appointment. She was very intelligent and I honestly enjoyed the conversation.
I ended going to look around parque lleras, never felt so handsome in my life hahaha what an illusion. Also I'm sure this is common knowledge but all the clubs around there pay girls to dance and convince you to buy them drinks. I met two of them who were so nice that I didn't mind buying them a couple drinks but I saw how fast that it could add up if you're not paying attention or asking for prices. Anyways me and those 2 ended up going to get lunch the next day and we might make plans to visit some other places.
To be honest I was expecting really hot girls with less than average service here. Every one chica that I've met so far have all been super FRendly, great service besides the lack of GFE, and they all seemed like intelligent and genuine people. I must just be getting lucky. YMMV.
I'll be in town until Saturday if anyone would like to grab a beer let me know! I'm in laureles but will be hanging out in Provenza / parque lleras as well.
Let me know if why'all have any questions or recommendations.[/QUOTE]A great place to take a girl or girls for a date is to have a picnic at the Jardines Botnicos in Medellin. Bring some drinks, snacks, finger foods, some music and find a nice quiet place in the park. I had a great time there and Gringos don't even talk about this. It's a beautiful place to spend some romantic time and right off the metro line. Think outside the box and like a local. Don't follow the template of the Gringos and being predictable doing what the 99% do. Also taking a cable up to Parque Arvi is a good option too. It's good to find out what the locals like doing and go on a Colombian date, learn some culture and traditions. I love going places where there is little or no Gringos. Let them stay in Poblado, Provenza, Calle 10 and Parque Lleras.
Met up with Ricki01 in Poblado a couple times this week. He has a lot of experience dating in Medellin. In early 2023, he spent 3 months living here and did real dating by meeting girls online. Cupid, FB, etc. Back then, he posted under a different handle. Anyway, he's mixed p4 p with regular dating this trip and all was going well until three days ago when a girl tried to scope him. She was from FB, maybe just 18 or 19, and based on appearance and behavior, presented as very fresh and inexperienced.
During the date, she was nervous and he thought it was due to her lack of experience. But she kept wanting to drink and get him to drink with her and got sloppy with swapping cups as part of a game, etc. At some point, she did something to one of the drinks but he was being careful. As soon as he tasted just a drop, his heart rate jumped and he knew what was going on. He immediately got up and told her to take her stuff and get out. After she was out, he tried a drop more and looked up the initial effects of a tiny amount of scopolamine and sure enough, his reaction fit perfectly.
He's on his way back home and asked me to share the story here as a warning. Some of these girls are extremely good actresses so you should never let your guard down. The girl might have really been inexperienced but whoever was directing here would have pounced had Ricki fallen asleep.
Seems like there may be a lot of gems but some of the bad ones are extremely good at faking it.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2981292]He has a lot of experience dating in Medellin. In early 2023, he spent 3 months living here and did real dating by meeting girls online. Anyway, he's mixed p4 p with regular dating this trip and all was going well until three days ago when a girl tried to scope him.
[b]But she kept wanting to drink and get him to drink with her[/b] and got sloppy with swapping cups as part of a game, etc.[/QUOTE]In 20 years of going to Colombia and doing 95% regular dating versus 5% hookers, I have [B]never[/B] had a regular dating chick want me to drink. Sure they will have a drink if we are out at a restaurant or a couple of beers if we are at a party or at the beach, but say drink this, drink this, [B]never![/B].
Once (and this was last year) a chick told me that she liked red wine. I bought some before she came over. It was sitting on the kitchen counter in plain view. After she left, I asked her why she did not drink her red wine or take it with her. She said that I never offered it to her. I ended up leaving it for the owner or next person in the airbnb.
A regular dating chick is not going to be a big drinker and is most of all not going to suggest drinking together as an activity or coaxing you to drink. Once again proves that all these scoping stories have something to do with drinking. Even in the video of that streamer guy, you see the girls putting the cups to the guys lips getting them to take drinks. Cut out the fucking drinking and you do not have to worry about getting drugged. But as always has been the case throughout human history, when pussy says to do something, guys simply follow instructions because they do not want to lose the pussy by saying no.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2981288]A great place to take a girl or girls for a date is to have a picnic at the Jardines Botnicos in Medellin......[/QUOTE]I have been to the Jardin Botanico many times, it is a great pick up spot. Now, I have never seen a girl there by herself but look for those with their young son / daughter, they're easy pickings. A rudimentary knowledge of Spanish and a phone app will help. You're welcome guys.
All,
I am now in Laureles area for a few days now, really need guidance to let me know the cases with working girls nearby, appreciate.
I just returned today to Medellíand and, like always, I m staying at the Nutibara Hotel. That morning, as I wandered near the Parque Berrío metro station, I noticed her. Young, maybe 23, with that unmistakable Venezuelan look—petite, curvy in all the right places, dressed in tight dress. She was selling coffee for 1,000 pesos.
I ordered a coffee, taking my time, letting my eyes roam over her body. She wasn't particularly friendly, but she wasn't pushing me away either. As we talked, I reached out, running my fingers along her arm. She didn't flinch. I told her she was beautiful.
I asked if she wanted to grab lunch, maybe go shopping with me. She shook her head. "I can't," she said. "I have kids in school. I work here during the day. " Then, without hesitation, she said.
"But if you want fuck me, I can do that. ".
She said it, direct. 50,000 pesos. I didn't even hesitate.
I told her we could go to my hotel, but she smirked. "No hotels," she said. "But for 5,000, we can use the toilets at the panadería. ".
I followed her without question. The small bakery by the metro had a handful of customers taking their morning coffee. She walked straight to the counter, handed a few bills to the girl working there, and got the key. Then she turned to me. "Come. ".
The restroom was small, but private enough. The second the door locked behind us, I pressed her against the wall, my hands grabbing at her body. She was soft. She let me kissed her with tongue, as I pulled her dress up.
She dropped to her knees without a word, undoing my belt, then she sucked my dick. Then I put her to the wall, and I started to fuck her with my fingers and then I fucked her directly bareback.
Three positions, ten minutes—until she whispered, "Hurry. Finish. ".
I came insode her pussy.
When we were done, she adjusted her dress, I asked for her number, but she just shook her head. "No phone," she said. "If you want me, come back. I'm here every day. ".
As I stepped out of the restroom, I noticed another gringo who was waiting for her. And after few minutes, he was going to the toilets too with her.
Hello my husband and I are going to Medellin on Sunday. I want to watch him with other woman, it's a fantasy I've had for years. I am Canadian and he is Uruguayan and speaks Spanish. Any advise? I cannot find much info on couples.
No talent in Parque Botero yesterday, due to heavy police presence. The ladies moved down Avenida Carabobo to the area in front of the Veracruz church.
Unfortunately, there has been lots of rain lately.
[QUOTE=CrisKris;2982122]Hello my husband and I are going to Medellin on Sunday. I want to watch him with other woman, it's a fantasy I've had for years. I am Canadian and he is Uruguayan and speaks Spanish. Any advise? I cannot find much info on couples.[/QUOTE]The girls should be fine with this. I've had other people in the room and if they didn't participate then there wasn't an extra fee, but if both of you participate then you will most likely have an additional cost. My advise is to find the girl that you both like and approach her and tell her the scenario and ask for a price. I don't foresee you having challenges fulfilling your fantasy. Or if you are concerned then have your husband approach first, negotiate a price, start walking to the hotel and then he tells her that you are going to sit and watch.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2982109]I just returned today to Medelland and, like always, I m staying at the Nutibara Hotel. That morning, as I wandered near the Parque Berro metro station, I noticed her. Young, maybe 23, with that unmistakable Venezuelan lookpetite, curvy in all the right places, dressed in tight dress. She was selling coffee for 1,000 pesos.
I ordered a coffee, taking my time, letting my eyes roam over her body. She wasn't particularly friendly, but she wasn't pushing me away either. As we talked, I reached out, running my fingers along her arm. She didn't flinch. I told her she was beautiful.
I asked if she wanted to grab lunch, maybe go shopping with me. She shook her head. "I can't," she said. "I have kids in school. I work here during the day. " Then, without hesitation, she said.
"But if you want fuck me, I can do that. ".
She said it, direct. 50,000 pesos. I didn't even hesitate.
I told her we could go to my hotel, but she smirked. "No hotels," she said. "But for 5,000, we can use the toilets at the panadera. ".[/QUOTE]This story is fantastic! Thank you for sharing. She's a freaking pro, but I love your story. I won't be partaking in this with her, but that sounds like a hot experience. At least until you realized that another gringo was waiting for her LOL.
It rained really hard last night and there were very few working girls out there. I am sure the day of the week had something to do with as well. It's the first time I have seen more more "working" people than girls.
[QUOTE=CrisKris;2982122]Hello my husband and I are going to Medellin on Sunday. I want to watch him with other woman, it's a fantasy I've had for years. I am Canadian and he is Uruguayan and speaks Spanish. Any advise? I cannot find much info on couples.[/QUOTE]I can't speak for downtown, but you shouldn't have an issue in Parque Lleras or at the bars around there. Your husband can just talk to them and tell them what's up and they'll tell you if they are good with it (hint hint, most are). If you are joining in, expect the joiner fee (usually double the ST or LT rate). The rate could be less if you both are exceptionally hot, but being real, Lleras girls are generally not in the mood of giving discounts for that sort of thing. But since you're just watching, expect that most of the ladies will still try to charge double even if you're just watching. Just be firm and negotiate it down. Expect some surcharge in the end and remember that if you're planning to record it, that is always a separate charge. Clear that with the girls as well because it's been hit or miss for me with girls in Medellin.
Happy hunting and don't worry, it won't be too hard to get that done.
The police presence is reduced, so there are ladies working the park at Plaza Botero. But most ladies are hanging around Avenida Carabobo.
Not that the talent level is very high. Lots of Miss Universe type civvies walking around, but the working girls, not so much.
BTW, I haven't seen a lady younger than 50 serving coffee in Plaza Botero.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2982109] "No hotels," she said. "But for 5,000, we can use the toilets at the panadera. ".
I followed her without question. The small bakery by the metro had a handful of customers taking their morning coffee. She walked straight to the counter, handed a few bills to the girl working there, and got the key. Then she turned to me. "Come. ".
The restroom was small, but private enough. The second the door locked behind us, I pressed her against the wall, my hands grabbing at her body. She was soft. She let me kissed her with tongue, as I pulled her dress up.
She dropped to her knees without a word, undoing my belt, then she sucked my dick. Then I put her to the wall, and I started to fuck her with my fingers and then I fucked her directly bareback.
I noticed another gringo who was waiting for her. And after few minutes, he was going to the toilets too with her.[/QUOTE]Love this "thinking outside the box" and is not this what makes for some great memories. The best part was 5 mil for the use of the toilet stall for a few minutes, my gawd life is good. Been doing shit like this for decades here in Colombia and never gets old rather adds to the allure, living life on the edge!
TTM.
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I am not sure how far it is true, but a friend told me that after the session better to take the condom of cum either with you or flush it in the toilet. In some casas, particularly popular one among gringos recently remodeled casa, in el centro, after the session, they take the condom and put it in small black plastic bag and leave it in the garbage bin. I am not sure what do they do with it and why do they do it with it instead flushing in toilet, afraid of clogging the toilet? However, anything is possible if they have your details, and you are a frequenter to the casa.
You can have your own wild imagination. Anything can happen in Colombia.
Since it is not big a deal, you can favor yourself to flush the condom in the toilet.
[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2981847]All,
I am now in Laureles area for a few days now, really need guidance to let me know the cases with working girls nearby, appreciate.[/QUOTE]Purple Elixar.
[URL]https://elixirpurpura.com/[/URL]
Its in Belen / Laurlres.
Fantasias Energy.
(google it).
The Classic casa.
Is in Laurles Estadio area.
Ellas erotica.
Laurles LOS Colores.
[URL]https://ellaserotic.com/[/URL]
Angels Spa.
Carrera 81 #42-60.
I suggest contacting them first, find a girl you like and then make an appointment so you can be ontime with everything.
[QUOTE=ElPostino;2982425]I am not sure how far it is true, but a friend told me that after the session better to take the condom of cum either with you or flush it in the toilet. In some casas, particularly popular one among gringos recently remodeled casa, in el centro, after the session, they take the condom and put it in small black plastic bag and leave it in the garbage bin. I am not sure what do they do with it and why do they do it with it instead flushing in toilet, afraid of clogging the toilet? However, anything is possible if they have your details, and you are a frequenter to the casa.
You can have your own wild imagination. Anything can happen in Colombia. :)
Since it is not big a deal, you can favor yourself to flush the condom in the toilet.[/QUOTE]You absolutely cannot flush condoms down the toilet in Colombia and should not do it anywhere. Any plumber will tell you that.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2982259]No talent in Parque Botero yesterday, due to heavy police presence. The ladies moved down Avenida Carabobo to the area in front of the Veracruz church.
Unfortunately, there has been lots of rain lately.[/QUOTE]I don't think police presence around the plaza makes a difference. Even when there are big groups of police, the girls hang around and are open to going with guys in plain view. Nobody seems to care. I did see one skanky looking girl being dragged away and handcuffed by a few police in the afternoon. But I think she tried to snatch somebody's property and got caught.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2982438]You absolutely cannot flush condoms down the toilet in Colombia and should not do it anywhere. Any plumber will tell you that.[/QUOTE]Turn them inside out and use them twice.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2982259]No talent in Parque Botero yesterday, due to heavy police presence. The ladies moved down Avenida Carabobo to the area in front of the Veracruz church.
Unfortunately, there has been lots of rain lately.[/QUOTE]What's your comparison of Colombian chicas to the Thai babes? Which do you prefer generally?
[QUOTE=ElPostino;2982425] after the session, they take the condom and put it in small black plastic bag [/QUOTE]Anybody that has been to Tantra in Bogota knows that they do the exact same thing.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2982446]I don't think police presence around the plaza makes a difference. Even when there are big groups of police, the girls hang around and are open to going with guys in plain view. Nobody seems to care. I did see one skanky looking girl being dragged away and handcuffed by a few police in the afternoon. But I think she tried to snatch somebody's property and got caught.[/QUOTE]The issue that day was the large number of police in the park. Once they left for other places, things returned to normal. However, the number of ladies in the park area is tiny compared with the ladies along Avenida Carabobo.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2982606]What's your comparison of Colombian chicas to the Thai babes? Which do you prefer generally?[/QUOTE]If you consider civvies, Colombianas would be close to the best in the world. I have seen plenty of Miss Universe types walking around. In Rio, the number of doable garotas you would see on the streets is maybe 1%, mostly due to the aforementioned enormous weight gain. But the number of doable chicas in the streets is much higher.
Unfortunately, the working chicas I have seen in Medellin, not so good. I suspect most aged out and got booted by their husbands, leaving them penniless and desperate.
As for Thailand, its a different type of lady, very few "robust" types with a big ass and tits, and most of those are ladyboys. So, Thailand is okay as a change of pace, plus, there is generally a better work ethic.
They always do this and have been for a long time. It is much cheaper to change a small baggy that they can get much cheaper than a large trash bag for the bin. I have seen it done in Asia, Europe and other latin America countries.
[QUOTE=ElPostino;2982425]I am not sure how far it is true, but a friend told me that after the session better to take the condom of cum either with you or flush it in the toilet. In some casas, particularly popular one among gringos recently remodeled casa, in el centro, after the session, they take the condom and put it in small black plastic bag and leave it in the garbage bin. I am not sure what do they do with it and why do they do it with it instead flushing in toilet, afraid of clogging the toilet? However, anything is possible if they have your details, and you are a frequenter to the casa.
You can have your own wild imagination. Anything can happen in Colombia. :)
Since it is not big a deal, you can favor yourself to flush the condom in the toilet.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ElPostino;2982425]I am not sure how far it is true, but a friend told me that after the session better to take the condom of cum either with you or flush it in the toilet. In some casas, particularly popular one among gringos recently remodeled casa, in el centro, after the session, they take the condom and put it in small black plastic bag and leave it in the garbage bin. I am not sure what do they do with it and why do they do it with it instead flushing in toilet, afraid of clogging the toilet? However, anything is possible if they have your details, and you are a frequenter to the casa.
You can have your own wild imagination. Anything can happen in Colombia. :)
Since it is not big a deal, you can favor yourself to flush the condom in the toilet.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] Don't be paranoid and don't flush condoms.
I have lived in Laureles now for almost 3 years and speak pretty good spanish. As many have said the quality of casa chicks has dropped significantly from before COVID. I hadn't been to any casas lately but with a friend in town we decided to go to Tantra to see if any talent. We get there and we are presented with 9 cows, overweight, old and ugly, the best one maybe a 5/10. So we get up and say thanks but no thanks, when the manager says its a 20 mil viewing fee for each of us, so 40 mil. I told him in spanish that we both came with money in our pocket hoping to spend it here at your establishment, that we took the time to come here instead of going to one of your competitors like Energy or downtown, paid for an uber, and now you want to charge us for "viewing" your ugly lineup? Bad business. Like a car dealership trying to convince you to go look at cars, but if you go and you don't see anything you like, you need to pay them for looking. Just plain dumb. I even told him, I don't know if you have this 20 mil viewing fee for everyone even colombians or just for gringos, but you are going to discourage guys from even taking the time and money to come here to take a look if you are going to hit them with a 20 mil viewing fee. He didn't care. So public service announcement. Don't go to Tantra. They think we are stupid.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2939545]Greetings all,
I am planning my return to Medellin (haven't been back in 5 years) with all the problems with scopping and underage girls I am asking for recomendations on airbnb's that 1. - Allow girls in and 2. - have security that checks the girls coming in and out.
Can you guys share some apartments? You can send me a private message if you don't want to share your diamond in the rough.
Thanks in adavance.[/QUOTE]Hey Jim, Did you end up staying at an AirBNB? Would you recommend it? I tried to PM you but your box is full.
Thanks, Reemo.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2982428]Purple Elixar.
[URL]https://elixirpurpura.com/[/URL]
Its in Belen / Laurlres.
Fantasias Energy.
(google it).
The Classic casa.
Is in Laurles Estadio area.
Ellas erotica.
Laurles LOS Colores.
[URL]https://ellaserotic.com/[/URL]
Angels Spa.
Carrera 81 #42-60.
I suggest contacting them first, find a girl you like and then make an appointment so you can be ontime with everything.[/QUOTE]Thanks for information.
I have been Fantasias Energy spa at a noon time. There are about 6 or 7 girls lineup, mostly about 20 years old. I have no issue with this, but the mamasan insisted to charge far more than local rate I believe, it was 155 k for 30 mins. I don't speak Spanish.
[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2982408]I am at La Boyaca as of 5:23 pm 12 February, but I didn't see you here.[/QUOTE]Wrong place. It's Ancora Cafe, right in the plaza. I go there for afternoon coffee and great people watching. There are about 6 tables outside and it's next to a bigger restaurant with lots of outside seating. Sometimes, if I see someone interesting, I get up or invite them over long enough to get what's app. Today, I even saw Cuba Dave at the next table for a few minutes.
Around 6 pm, it's nice to go to that place on the corner of corner of Calle 51 (the alley next to the church) and Carrera 53 (Avenida Cundinamarca). Lots of guys sitting at the tables there with a drink while the girls stand right in front. It's a hotspot for checking the girls out and sometimes when it rains, they come inside. Around that corner, I usually see plenty of younger girls Wed-Sat.
[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2982408]I am at La Boyaca as of 5:23 pm 12 February, but I didn't see you here.[/QUOTE]You can go there after 4 PM or a little earlier. Go to the restaurant Que chimba right next to the church to have a beer or dinner. The owners are gringos and speak English. You should not have problem there. There usually are a bunch of gringos hanging around and you can talk to them. You an just sit there and observe and ask the girl you like to come to your table and talk. The restaurant closes around 7 or 8 pm. It's best not be around after. Inside the plaza is fine, avoid the backside if you are not sure.
Look at the direction toward the metro from there. You will see playboy bunny sign and that is a strip club at the corner that you can go. Several doors to the right is another strip club. Both are used to gringos.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2982743]...... Today, I even saw Cuba Dave at the next table for a few minutes......[/QUOTE]THE Cuba Dave of Panama fame?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2982832]THE Cuba Dave of Panama fame?[/QUOTE]It was Costa Rica that put him in prison.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2982842]It was Costa Rica that put him in prison.[/QUOTE]The other problem with this story is that he passed away. So perhaps a look alike, or some sort of miracle (or an erroneous story about his passing).
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2982864]The other problem with this story is that he passed away. So perhaps a look alike, or some sort of miracle (or an erroneous story about his passing).[/QUOTE]I had not heard that until now, and was not able to find an obituary: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Strecker?wprov=sfti1[/URL]#.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2939545]Greetings all,
I am planning my return to Medellin (haven't been back in 5 years) with all the problems with scopping and underage girls I am asking for recomendations on airbnb's that 1. - Allow girls in and 2. - have security that checks the girls coming in and out.
Can you guys share some apartments? You can send me a private message if you don't want to share your diamond in the rough.
Thanks in adavance.[/QUOTE]Search for the word Energy in AirBnb and that's my recommendation for Airbnb. Also as another option, any of the hotels will check the ID before allowing your guests to enter.
[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2982697]Thanks for information.
I have been Fantasias Energy spa at a noon time. There are about 6 or 7 girls lineup, mostly about 20 years old. I have no issue with this, but the mamasan insisted to charge far more than local rate I believe, it was 155 k for 30 mins. I don't speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]She charged you 155 k or you thought it should be 155 k?
[URL]https://chicasenergy.com/blog/[/URL]
Per their website it appears 155 k is the short stay rate.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2982864]The other problem with this story is that he passed away. So perhaps a look alike, or some sort of miracle (or an erroneous story about his passing).[/QUOTE]Who told you he passed away? He looks like he's doing fine for being mid 70's. That is the second time I've seen him at that same restaurant. The first time was 2-3 weeks ago and I approached him then as he was leaving. He gave me his FB and he added me. Apparently he's into hiking these days. He told me he stays near Estadio.
This time, he sat at a table with 3-4 gringo regulars but they all left after 10 minutes. If you know any of the guys who hang out in Centro (one is a chubby looking Asian guy), they should confirm he's fine since he knows some of them well enough to stop by their table.
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;2982670]I have lived in Laureles now for almost 3 years and speak pretty good spanish. As many have said the quality of casa chicks has dropped significantly from before COVID. I hadn't been to any casas lately but with a friend in town we decided to go to Tantra to see if any talent. We get there and we are presented with 9 cows, overweight, old and ugly, the best one maybe a 5/10. So we get up and say thanks but no thanks, when the manager says its a 20 mil viewing fee for each of us, so 40 mil. I told him in spanish that we both came with money in our pocket hoping to spend it here at your establishment, that we took the time to come here instead of going to one of your competitors like Energy or downtown, paid for an uber, and now you want to charge us for "viewing" your ugly lineup? Bad business. Like a car dealership trying to convince you to go look at cars, but if you go and you don't see anything you like, you need to pay them for looking. Just plain dumb. I even told him, I don't know if you have this 20 mil viewing fee for everyone even colombians or just for gringos, but you are going to discourage guys from even taking the time and money to come here to take a look if you are going to hit them with a 20 mil viewing fee. He didn't care. So public service announcement. Don't go to Tantra. They think we are stupid.[/QUOTE]Tantra has always been on the moo side of things with the L / you but showing fees used to be like 4 mil pesso etc. I think its just rising tides for all. It sucks.
That said better to go to the reliable spots that you know are good and you'll be fine.
I'm with you. I have bad memories of blubber and silicone from the place. Those memories are several years old. It's a little far out of the way also for a Centro rat.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2982940]Tantra has always been on the moo side of things with the L / you but showing fees used to be like 4 mil pesso etc. I think its just rising tides for all. It sucks.
That said better to go to the reliable spots that you know are good and you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mongeron88;2982920]She charged you 155 k or you thought it should be 155 k?
[URL]https://chicasenergy.com/blog/[/URL]
Per their website it appears 155 k is the short stay rate.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reminding me the price list.
She wanted to charge me 185 k for whatever reason, and I showed her our Whatsapp conversation message that she quoted 155 k. Finally she charged 155 k. Now I know it's on the price list.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2982864]The other problem with this story is that he passed away.......[/QUOTE]You may be confusing him with the guy who used to post on ISG who was convicted in Medellin for relations with under aged girls.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2983106]You may be confusing him with the guy who used to post on ISG who was convicted in Medellin for relations with under aged girls.[/QUOTE]As far as I know Cuba Dave lives in the Medellin region. He does or did have a IG page where he posted pictures of him hiking around Guatape.
Either way the guy has been keeping it as quiet as a church mouse.
The guy was as addicted to biohacking as he was to pussy he was on Peptides and TRT.
Actually I don't know if he's alive or dead but if he died I'the think he'the want guys to know. I do know that he keeps tabs on the online mongering scene.
Trip.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2982936]Who told you he passed away? He looks like he's doing fine for being mid 70's. That is the second time I've seen him at that same restaurant. The first time was 2-3 weeks ago and I approached him then as he was leaving. He gave me his FB and he added me. Apparently he's into hiking these days. He told me he stays near Estadio.
This time, he sat at a table with 3-4 gringo regulars but they all left after 10 minutes. If you know any of the guys who hang out in Centro (one is a chubby looking Asian guy), they should confirm he's fine since he knows some of them well enough to stop by their table.[/QUOTE]It was either this list or perhaps CRT from Costa Rica where there was some discussion about his death. But as I alluded to, there are always crazy stories floating around, and perhaps rumors of his death were exaggerated, and if he has been seen and is alive and those that have seen him know him then that is pretty good evidence that he is alive.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2983556]It was either this list or perhaps CRT from Costa Rica where there was some discussion about his death. But as I alluded to, there are always crazy stories floating around, and perhaps rumors of his death were exaggerated, and if he has been seen and is alive and those that have seen him know him then that is pretty good evidence that he is alive.[/QUOTE]You guys are getting Cuba Dave mixed up with that guy Jake, he was pimping UA girls and got arrested and killed himself in prison. Cuba Dave is very much alive, I see him regularly.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2983613]You guys are getting Cuba Dave mixed up with that guy Jake, he was pimping UA girls and got arrested and killed himself in prison. Cuba Dave is very much alive, I see him regularly.[/QUOTE]Yeah Colombia Jake! That's the one. Cuba Dave, Colombia Jake, David Peru. Easy to get these names mixed up as time passes.
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;2982670]As many have said the quality of casa chicks has dropped significantly from before COVID. [/QUOTE]Funny thing, I was at Loutron last week, they actually had a really decent lineup of at least 15 girls. I saw a new face, quite a hot one, Geraldine. I went with her and asked her what she did before working at Loutron. She said she started out at Luna Lunera but after that did web camming. But the webcam business was quite slow and difficult she said that's why she went back to doing the real thing.
I'm pretty sure this is one of THE reasons that quality in general went down a bit, during covid girls switched to webcamming. Anyway it's hopeful to see that at least some are making the switch back.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;2983655]I went with her and asked her what she did before working at Loutron. She said she started out at Luna Lunera but after that did web camming. But the webcam business was quite slow and difficult she said that's why she went back to doing the real thing.[/QUOTE]I would have been curious to know her plans of what she is going to do next.
I was reading a report about the massage services at the Rio Sur Mall. There seem to be a few options. Anyone have any experience or recommendations on which place to go with?
[QUOTE=Stl24;2983760]I was reading a report about the massage services at the Rio Sur Mall. There seem to be a few options. Anyone have any experience or recommendations on which place to go with?[/QUOTE]Yeah but its pricey and the girls aren't all that. I think there are better jack shacks like thai spa. Its also pricey but better quality massage. However those girls will not do any suck, its strickly like a super western style happy ending with some light mutal touching.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;2983655]Funny thing, I was at Loutron last week, they actually had a really decent lineup of at least 15 girls. I saw a new face, quite a hot one, Geraldine. I went with her and asked her what she did before working at Loutron. She said she started out at Luna Lunera but after that did web camming. But the webcam business was quite slow and difficult she said that's why she went back to doing the real thing.
I'm pretty sure this is one of THE reasons that quality in general went down a bit, during covid girls switched to webcamming. Anyway it's hopeful to see that at least some are making the switch back.[/QUOTE]Yes that impacted the hobby as well as social media and IG more specificlly. These chicks started to realize JUST how hot they were on a worldwide scale and were getting crazy offers to go to EU and Dubai. Furthermore prior to Dec 2015 the Schengen visa requirement for CO citizen changed and they could go 90 day visa free to Europe. I'll NEVER forget how fast all these chicks hoped on a plane taking pics in front of the Effiel tower that their sponsor took a photo of.
Never the same, BUT still some gems. And yes Webcam requires such a massive ammount of time to get liftoff that most of them burn out and just go back to hooking.
I was SOO surprised, I hit it up a couple of independants, seperate days apart and saw THIS price chart being used!!
Once I see ANY USD, I AM OUT!
I really hope this is an isolated incident and not a trend. Keep in mind this also is with NO extras!!
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2983613]You guys are getting Cuba Dave mixed up with that guy Jake, he was pimping UA girls and got arrested and killed himself in prison. Cuba Dave is very much alive, I see him regularly.[/QUOTE]Colombia Jake used to post on ISG, I used to read his posts and always thought he was living dangerously.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2983873]Colombia Jake used to post on ISG, I used to read his posts and always thought he was living dangerously.[/QUOTE]I remember seeing him one time in one of the el centro casas. He was there with a couple guys, his clients I suppose. I just nodded a Hello, as I don't really go to casas to socialize. Was pretty shocked to hear of his arrest some time later, and even more shocked to hear he killed himself in Bellavista.
Thanks for the info sometimes I'm looking for just a nice relaxing experience and a nice HJ etc. I can get Thai / asian here in US. I'm looking for a spot or two down in Medellin that would be good. If the massage isn't phenomenal I'm ok with that. I just want to roam with my hands while getting massaged and get a nice HJ and or BJ. Any suggestions?
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2983841]Yeah but its pricey and the girls aren't all that. I think there are better jack shacks like thai spa. Its also pricey but better quality massage. However those girls will not do any suck, its strickly like a super western style happy ending with some light mutal touching.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2983849]I was SOO surprised, I hit it up a couple of independants, seperate days apart and saw THIS price chart being used!!
[/QUOTE]If I had to pay that much per hour for fucking, I most certainly would not want it to be with the same girl. That is like paying for an expensive all-inclusive resort, but for breakfast, lunch, and dinner they had the same one meal.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2983849]I was SOO surprised, I hit it up a couple of independants, seperate days apart and saw THIS price chart being used!!
Once I see ANY USD, I AM OUT!
I really hope this is an isolated incident and not a trend. Keep in mind this also is with NO extras!![/QUOTE]I've seen it before too. Anytime I see "dolares" I head to the opposite direction.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2983613]You guys are getting Cuba Dave mixed up with that guy Jake, he was pimping UA girls and got arrested and killed himself in prison. Cuba Dave is very much alive, I see him regularly.[/QUOTE]I'm not getting them mixed up. Know about both. But there was a story that Cuba Dave died of a heart attack or stroke. But the story was a year or more ago, and obviously incorrect. Sorry.
I guess the question is who is foolish enough to pay those prices? If they are advertising it, it could be there are alot of fools out there.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2983849]I was SOO surprised, I hit it up a couple of independants, seperate days apart and saw THIS price chart being used!!
Once I see ANY USD, I AM OUT!
I really hope this is an isolated incident and not a trend. Keep in mind this also is with NO extras!![/QUOTE]
Sorry, I should have clarified. I can get the massage / HJ from Asian women up here in the states. I'm looking for good looking for a massage and HJ / BJ from good looking Hispanic women.
[QUOTE=Stl24;2983987]Thanks for the info sometimes I'm looking for just a nice relaxing experience and a nice HJ etc. I can get Thai / asian here in US. I'm looking for a spot or two down in Medellin that would be good. If the massage isn't phenomenal I'm ok with that. I just want to roam with my hands while getting massaged and get a nice HJ and or BJ. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2983849]I was SOO surprised, I hit it up a couple of independants, seperate days apart and saw THIS price chart being used!!
Once I see ANY USD, I AM OUT!
I really hope this is an isolated incident and not a trend. Keep in mind this also is with NO extras!![/QUOTE]I ran into this in Bogota recently. It's not even the insanely hot ones doing it, at least in Bogota. So I look at it as the delusional / fake / Instagram "hot" girls doing it. I say have at it.
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[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2984485]Upon arrival to FLL Fort Lauderdale from Medellin yesterday the entire group of passengers had their passports taken and place in separate room. We had to wait while Customs Officials searched our luggage and carryons. I was like WTF I had Global Entry! It did not matter I was stuck in that room with hundreds of others with no explanation.[/QUOTE]Explanation? That is their entire job sir. Global Entry is not a skate through Customs without being checked card.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2984485]This isn't a political blog but this smells like Trump. It's very difficult to make flight connections as it is but to add a an additional layer of baggage checks is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]LOL. Customs is not new. It was around way before Trump was even born. It is not an additional layer. It is a normal thing to be searched by Customs in any country.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2984485]Here what you can expect: any prescription drugs MUST have the your name on it or a document that authorizes it. Any other pills or supplements will be check to see if they are an illegal substance. Do not bring back a "joint" or any controlled subtstance.[/QUOTE]This is nothing new. This information can be found on their website.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2984485]It took one hour to go through this bullshit before I was allowed to leave and go through another check for my domestic flight![/QUOTE]Of course. You have to be cleared before entering any country. You do not get to decide how fast it will be.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2984485]If it's going to be like this I am not going to waste my time being harassed by " Homeland Security" after I paid for and was vetted by Global Entry. Be careful there was sense of a "cowboy" attitude while these searches were taking place.[/QUOTE]So you are never leaving the country again?
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2984485]Upon arrival to FLL Fort Lauderdale from Medellin yesterday the entire group of passengers had their passports taken and place in separate room. We had to wait while Customs Officials searched our luggage and carryons. I was like WTF I had Global Entry! It did not matter I was stuck in that room with hundreds of others with no explanation.
[/QUOTE]Damn, that sucks. I've heard others say they haven't had any issues returning so maybe it is random. Trump is talking about returning 5 K to taxpayers. If that happens, we will probably see an uptick in passport bros and mongers traveling to places like Medellin and Sosua. That could potentially increase the wait time entering Medellin from the USA and also perhaps entering the USA from Colombia. Someone on one of those Youtube videos made the assertion that travel through MDE had already increased 260% since before the pandemic.
Border controls have always been random because there are so many more travelers than there are control resources. Part of the strategy has been deterrence through unpredictable risk of capture. It has never been a good idea to travel with contraband. Perhaps even more so recently. Reminders from time to time can be helpful to avoid undesirable situations.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2984548]Damn, that sucks. I've heard others say they haven't had any issues returning so maybe it is random. Trump is talking about returning 5 K to taxpayers. If that happens, we will probably see an uptick in passport bros and mongers traveling to places like Medellin and Sosua. That could potentially increase the wait time entering Medellin from the USA and also perhaps entering the USA from Colombia. Someone on one of those Youtube videos made the assertion that travel through MDE had already increased 260% since before the pandemic.[/QUOTE]
Spot on, you have to expect this and be prepared. Or stay home.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2984490]Explanation? That is their entire job sir. Global Entry is not a skate through Customs without being checked card.
LOL. Customs is not new. It was around way before Trump was even born. It is not an additional layer. It is a normal thing to be searched by Customs in any country.
This is nothing new. This information can be found on their website.
Of course. You have to be cleared before entering any country. You do not get to decide how fast it will be.
So you are never leaving the country again?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2984548]Damn, that sucks. I've heard others say they haven't had any issues returning so maybe it is random. Trump is talking about returning 5 K to taxpayers. If that happens, we will probably see an uptick in passport bros and mongers traveling to places like Medellin and Sosua. That could potentially increase the wait time entering Medellin from the USA and also perhaps entering the USA from Colombia. Someone on one of those Youtube videos made the assertion that travel through MDE had already increased 260% since before the pandemic.[/QUOTE]I got escorted into the back room in Miami in November and again in January. No problem arriving in December. In November he told me he worked for Homeland Security and he searched my phones and laptop. Wanted to know why I travel to the places I do which are mostly eastern European countries, Cuba and Medellin. I told him the truth. He wanted to know if I was traveling to Venezuela from Colombia. I told him I'd like to but think it's probably too dangerous.
In January I told him hey I was just taken back here a couple months ago. He checked in the computer and let me go quickly. I've been going to Medellin for ten years and only recently has there been issues like this coming back.
Seems to me tourism to Medellin has increased about one thousand percent since the pandemic. Before covid there was no long waiting line in immigration that I can recall.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2984575]Spot on, you have to expect this and be prepared. Or stay home.[/QUOTE]That's nonsense I have been traveling internationally for years to several countries. When you arrive to the Philippines it says something to the effect that people who are involved in the drug race are put to "death. " That comes from a nearly 3rd world country.
If that's what's going to happen then it should be posted. I don't even drink just posted to let people know what's happening.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2984573]Border controls have always been random because there are so many more travelers than there are control resources. Part of the strategy has been deterrence through unpredictable risk of capture. It has never been a good idea to travel with contraband. Perhaps even more so recently. Reminders from time to time can be helpful to avoid undesirable situations.[/QUOTE]It wasn't random everyone on the flight was forced into this. It's lazy!
Visit to Loutron and unfortunately a disappointment. If this is a place with top girls in Medellín and, I expected girls who look similar to the porn actress featured in films shot in these hills (BTW, Thorze girls often travel around Europe). Meanwhile, I was shown about 10 girls in the range of 4-7. To be fair, one might have been a stretch to call an 8. I stayed for about an hour and a half, paid 30 k just for looking. For the record, the price per hour is 440 k.
I meant random in the sense that it does not happen to all flights. It's worth mentioning that personal electronics are also subject to inspection and seizure. It's best not to travel with anything on them that would be inconvenient to share with agents.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2984644]It wasn't random everyone on the flight was forced into this. It's lazy![/QUOTE]
We will have to agree to disagree that it's nonsense to avoid traveling with anything that can get you into legal trouble if discovered.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2984642]That's nonsense I have been traveling internationally for years to several countries. When you arrive to the Philippines it says something to the effect that people who are involved in the drug race are put to "death. " That comes from a nearly 3rd world country.
If that's what's going to happen then it should be posted. I don't even drink just posted to let people know what's happening.[/QUOTE]
Hi guys, has anyone here gotten a refund back from the Mansion for cancelling your reservation yet? Geraldine told me late November last year that the refund will be processed in a couple weeks. I sent them a follow up email in early January and never got a reply back. It is now February and I still haven't received it. It was not a lot of money but still, it's the principle of it. At this point I'm guessing they're going to stiff me. BTW, anyone knows if they opened up M2 yet? TIA.
[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2984700]Hi guys, has anyone here gotten a refund back from the Mansion for cancelling your reservation yet? Geraldine told me late November last year that the refund will be processed in a couple weeks. I sent them a follow up email in early January and never got a reply back. It is now February and I still haven't received it. It was not a lot of money but still, it's the principle of it. At this point I'm guessing they're going to stiff me. BTW, anyone knows if they opened up M2 yet? TIA.[/QUOTE]I heard they will not open M2. My guess is they have taken everyone's deposits and disappeared. It's now probably too late to dispute the charge with your credit card company.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2984573]Border controls have always been random because there are so many more travelers than there are control resources. Part of the strategy has been deterrence through unpredictable risk of capture. It has never been a good idea to travel with contraband. Perhaps even more so recently. Reminders from time to time can be helpful to avoid undesirable situations.[/QUOTE]Knowledge, I just went through this in Lauderdale. It is not random. Everyone with Global Entry I saw was placed in a line. I assume they were doing a more thorough background check than usual because of Trump being in office, and our bags were put through a scanner. It added an hour to the usual process. I hope this is a one time thing and once the thorough background has been performed things go back to usual. Maybe after the political spat, USA customs was told not to trust Colombian customs and their screening process.
In the USA, the agents and the passengers were both very respectful.
As for searching a laptop and telephone, I would offer to turn the devices on but I would refuse to let the government look at the content of the devices. [URL]https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-when-encountering-law-enforcement-airports-and-other-ports-entry-us[/URL].
The government believes this authority to search without individualized suspicion extends to searches of electronic devices such as laptops and cell phones, but that is a contested legal issue. A federal judge in New York said that a warrantless search of those items violates the 4th amendment. So instead of telling the customs agent to get a warrant, I would say a federal judge ruled you need probable cause to search those items, what is your probable cause?
Keep in mind that: Officers may not select you for a personal search or secondary inspection based on your religion, race, national origin, gender, ethnicity, or political beliefs. So if I am an agent unless I have a really good reason to detain the passenger, I am going to be like fuck it and leave the guy alone because it is so easy to accuse an agent of profiling.
And this is from the website: USA Citizens have the right to enter the United States, so if you are a USA Citizen and the officers' questions become intrusive, you can decline to answer those questions, but you should be aware that doing so may result in delay and / or further inspection.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2984618]
Seems to me tourism to Medellin has increased about one thousand percent since the pandemic. Before covid there was no long waiting line in immigration that I can recall.[/QUOTE]Def sucks. The youtube vids did a lot of damage. Then when I see American women traveling to a spot that began as a mongering destination, I know its a wrap.
A point to consider that I hope the ACLU covers is refusal to allow inspection of electronic devices routinely results in the agents seizing them. The devices will be inspected and later returned to you. I think the ACLU verbiage about delay and further inspection. My practice is to not have anything on my devices I would not want to be discovered.
I hadn't thought about this before this thread appeared and reminded me that something similar happened to me. A few months ago arriving in Miami, a handful of customs and immigration agents were in the corridor leading to passport control. A passenger near me was stopped and asked to show his passport. I remember noticing the passenger during the flight because he looked like the Gary Oldman character in the film True Romance. He had dreadlocks and a bohemian style of dress. I've seen the agents profile passengers before in that situation over the years. Flashy jewelry and rasta style hair and clothing seems to be a red flag. About a year and a half ago I took the short lived American direct flight from Medellin to JFK. The entire flight was diverted to secondary inspection and everyone's luggage was searched.
I think you might be using the term customs differently. Customs agents inspect passengers as they enter countries. Immigration agents inspect passengers as they enter and as they leave countries.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2984714]Knowledge, I just went through this in Lauderdale. It is not random. Everyone with Global Entry I saw was placed in a line. I assume they were doing a more thorough background check than usual because of Trump being in office, and our bags were put through a scanner. It added an hour to the usual process. I hope this is a one time thing and once the thorough background has been performed things go back to usual. Maybe after the political spat, USA customs was told not to trust Colombian customs and their screening process.
In the USA, the agents and the passengers were both very respectful.
As for searching a laptop and telephone, I would offer to turn the devices on but I would refuse to let the government look at the content of the devices. [URL]https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-when-encountering-law-enforcement-airports-and-other-ports-entry-us[/URL].[/QUOTE]
Hi STL,
I've visited a few of the spas in Rio Sur and always had a positive experience. They offer light massages and happy endings. However, I've had full service a few times. One small spa there (I think closed now), I had a MILF type 'therapist' that started out massage and transitioned on full on full service, great time! In another popular spa, one of the therapists and I took a liking to each other and I engaged in full service with her 2 x. I actually took her out on a date one time, that was fun too.
As mentioned, its a pricier option, but I like the more professional atmosphere.
[QUOTE=Stl24;2983760]I was reading a report about the massage services at the Rio Sur Mall. There seem to be a few options. Anyone have any experience or recommendations on which place to go with?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jimbox;2979105]Back in Medelland!
A quick tip: never select "accept conversion" at the ATM. Always choose "decline conversion. " This morning, I saved about 35 bucks on an approx $480 withdrawal. I took out 2 million COP, and the fee for using a Davivienda ATM was 26,000 COP.[/QUOTE]Absolutely true. I learned it the hard way. Also, many of the local ATMs have a 600,000 COP withdrawal limit with transaction charges attached to each and every withdrawal.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2984808]I think you might be using the term customs differently. Customs agents inspect passengers as they enter countries. Immigration agents inspect passengers as they enter and as they leave countries.[/QUOTE]Customs agents inspect goods, not people. They do not make a determination as to the status of a person. That is the job of immigration agents. My experience has been that I hardly ever see a customs agent when entering the US. The immigration agent makes the determination as to whether a passenger needs to see a customs agent or not.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2984903]Customs agents inspect goods, not people. They do not make a determination as to the status of a person. That is the job of immigration agents. My experience has been that I hardly ever see a customs agent when entering the US. The immigration agent makes the determination as to whether a passenger needs to see a customs agent or not.[/QUOTE]In the USA they do both jobs. That is why it is called ICE. Immigration Customs Enforcement. So in the USA, whenever you see an immigration officer that is the same as seeing a customs officer.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2983873]Colombia Jake used to post on ISG, I used to read his posts and always thought he was living dangerously.[/QUOTE]Always will be a new guy to replace them and Gringos willing to pay: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNBgyHgf4cE[/URL].
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have any recommendations on a particular one or two to try out? I know there are several located in the mall. Thanks again!
[QUOTE=ChikSika;2984835]Hi STL,
I've visited a few of the spas in Rio Sur and always had a positive experience. They offer light massages and happy endings. However, I've had full service a few times. One small spa there (I think closed now), I had a MILF type 'therapist' that started out massage and transitioned on full on full service, great time! In another popular spa, one of the therapists and I took a liking to each other and I engaged in full service with her 2 x. I actually took her out on a date one time, that was fun too.
As mentioned, its a pricier option, but I like the more professional atmosphere.[/QUOTE]
I have a lot of vids from my exploits, if others do too PM me.
Hey guys I'll be coming back to Medellin from September 5 - 13 but this time solo. Last time I came I stuck exclusively with Loutron and La Celestina to see girls so I'll prob do the same or end up going to Luna strip club also. I ended up seeing someone from Parque Illeras but didn't really like the selection I saw when I was there. For me Loutron had few 8's in there maybe 1 or 2 9's. Purely subjective of course so others have a few diff opinions. Anyone got any recommendations to find those model types around the same quality facially as the girls in Loutron? I'm 25 yrs old so prefer looking for girls 20 -29 yrs old but early 30's will do also haha. If anyone else is heading down there the same time too let me know.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2984911]In the USA they do both jobs. That is why it is called ICE. Immigration Customs Enforcement. So in the USA, whenever you see an immigration officer that is the same as seeing a customs officer.[/QUOTE]You are all wet. ICE agents do not work in the airports. ICE is Immigration AND Customs Enforcement. It's possible one individual may be certified as both an Immigration Agent and a Customs Agent, but they are not ICE agents. They are CBP (Customs and Border Protection) agents. Have you heard of Tom Homan using his agents in an airport? There may be a circumstance where his agents would go to an airport to arrest someone, but ICE agents don't do document and baggage checks on arriving passengers.
The following are quotes from the ICE website:
"The agency has an annual budget of approximately $8 billion, primarily devoted to three operational directorates Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) and Office of the Principal Legal Advisor (OPLA). A fourth directorate Management and Administration (M&A) supports the three operational branches to advance the ICE mission."
"Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) is the principal investigative component of DHS and is responsible for investigating, disrupting, and dismantling transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) and terrorist networks that threaten or seek to exploit the customs and immigration laws of the United States"
"While ERO has significant assets near the border, the majority of its immigration enforcement mission takes place in the interior of the country. To accomplish ICE's important immigration enforcement objectives, ERO coordinates closely with law enforcement partners within the U.S. and around the world."
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2984721]Def sucks. The youtube vids did a lot of damage. Then when I see American women traveling to a spot that began as a mongering destination, I know its a wrap.[/QUOTE]When I was stuck in a 3 hour line at Medellíand Immigration, I saw a boatload of American female tourists. I never saw any on the streets afterwards though, so they must be going someone.
Anyway, I learned something: always fly into Medellíand via Bogotá, and go through Immigration there, that's what I will do next time.
Gringo Sausage Fest Arrival.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2986098]You are all wet. ICE agents do not work in the airports. ICE is Immigration AND Customs Enforcement. It's possible one individual may be certified as both an Immigration Agent and a Customs Agent, but they are not ICE agents. They are CBP (Customs and Border Protection) agents.[/QUOTE]Dude. They are the same agents. It only depends on the duty they are performing at the time. Like the Secret Service. The mission of the Secret Service is to investigate counterfeiting. So there are offices full of special agents doing this. The same agents in the offices and running around investigating counterfeiting can be assigned to protection details such as guarding the president or dignitaries.
Just like in the Navy. We have people on a ship and people on shore duty. The same job title performs different duties. It is not either or. A mechanic can be assigned recruiting duty, but that does not mean they are not a sailor. CBP / ICE can be assigned to the field as well as the border, such as the airport or seaport. Just because you see them in an airport does not mean that is the only place they can be assigned.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2986133]Anyway, I learned something: always fly into Medelland via Bogot, and go through Immigration there, that's what I will do next time.[/QUOTE]That is like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
Wow, that's crazy. I saw that on the denuncias Antioquia feed. I wonder whether there was some sort of flight arrival schedule hiccup. It's been a while since that situation has come up in the news.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2986143]Gringo Sausage Fest Arrival.[/QUOTE]
Bogota has its moments too. I will say I've never seen the immigration lines understaffed as is sometimes the case in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2986133]When I was stuck in a 3 hour line at Medelland Immigration, I saw a boatload of American female tourists. I never saw any on the streets afterwards though, so they must be going someone.
Anyway, I learned something: always fly into Medelland via Bogot, and go through Immigration there, that's what I will do next time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2984711]I heard they will not open M2. My guess is they have taken everyone's deposits and disappeared. It's now probably too late to dispute the charge with your credit card company.[/QUOTE]Lately the Mansion was just not run properly! Still going to miss the place though, had good times there. Wonder if there is something similar.
*I'll be visiting Medellin in two weeks to meet up with some military veterans. They know the country well, but it'll be my first time there. I like using SA when I travel to places where I don't know many locals—though here in Peru, I've been living for a year, so I don't really need it. That said, I'd appreciate any advice or helpful info!
I don't drink much, but I do smoke (plant medicine for PTSD). I also know a local tattoo artist who was referred to me by my artist here in Lima.
I'm 38, American-Italian from Brooklyn, NY. I prefer 20-25 petite chicks—funny enough, all my friends are obsessed with fake ass and tits, but that's not my thing, so it actually helps when we travel.
DM me if you have any tips, and safe travels!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2986224]Dude. They are the same agents. It only depends on the duty they are performing at the time. Like the Secret Service. The mission of the Secret Service is to investigate counterfeiting. So there are offices full of special agents doing this. The same agents in the offices and running around investigating counterfeiting can be assigned to protection details such as guarding the president or dignitaries.
Just like in the Navy. We have people on a ship and people on shore duty. The same job title performs different duties. It is not either or. A mechanic can be assigned recruiting duty, but that does not mean they are not a sailor. CBP / ICE can be assigned to the field as well as the border, such as the airport or seaport. Just because you see them in an airport does not mean that is the only place they can be assigned.[/QUOTE]ICE and CBP are two different agencies within the Department of Homeland Security. Both are involved with immigration and customs, but their focus is different. CBP works at the border to stop illegal immigration and smuggling, while ICE works within the country to enforce immigration and customs law. ICE consists of two divisions, ERO (Enforcement and Romoval Operations) and HSI (Homeland Security Investigations). ERO is what most people think of as ICE. They work with the immigration court system. HSI works with the criminal court system. CBP works at or beyond the border and cosists of three divisions. OFO (Office of Field Operations) are the guys who work at the airports and other ports of entries inspecting people and goods as they cross the border. The Border Patrol patrols the borders between ports of entry. Air and Marine Operations patrol the coast along with the Coast Guard, as well as patrol the borders with aircraft.
TL; DR CBP works to stop it, ICE works to catch it after it's already happened.
[QUOTE=LetsGoMets;2986285]*I'll be visiting Medellin in two weeks to meet up with some military veterans. They know the country well, but it'll be my first time there. I like using SA when I travel to places where I don't know many localsthough here in Peru, I've been living for a year, so I don't really need it. That said, I'd appreciate any advice or helpful info!
I don't drink much, but I do smoke (plant medicine for PTSD). I also know a local tattoo artist who was referred to me by my artist here in Lima.
I'm 38, American-Italian from Brooklyn, NY. I prefer 20-25 petite chicksfunny enough, all my friends are obsessed with fake ass and tits, but that's not my thing, so it actually helps when we travel.
DM me if you have any tips, and safe travels![/QUOTE]Looks like you have some reading (RESEARCH) to do.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2986238]Wow, that's crazy. I saw that on the denuncias Antioquia feed. I wonder whether there was some sort of flight arrival schedule hiccup. It's been a while since that situation has come up in the news.[/QUOTE]Yep, it affects everything. Prices going up. Rentals, Ubers, wait times, etc. Expect a line at MDE. Long gone are the days when you breezed through in 10 minutes. If you are blessed by the Gods, you might luck out but there is typically a slow process getting through immigration.
[QUOTE=Grem;2986273]Lately the Mansion was just not run properly! Still going to miss the place though, had good times there. Wonder if there is something similar.[/QUOTE]I cut my teeth at the mansion 18 years ago. Met some good people and then went out on my own. There were some quality girls back then. I got to know the staff. I started at the Mansion and then moved up to the Castillo (M2) when I wanted more privacy and less interaction. Greg had his issues, but always treated me well and put on a good show. And I still keep in touch with Boyd. MDE has certainly changed a lot and not necessarily for the best.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2986239]Bogota has its moments too. I will say I've never seen the immigration lines understaffed as is sometimes the case in Medellin.[/QUOTE]When I was in the 3 hour Immigration line at Medellin, I counted the number of Immigration officers handling the hundreds of foreigners waiting patiently: one.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2986227]That is like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.[/QUOTE]I always fly into Bogota first, and when leaving the same Unless I have a very late night flight out direct, always go into Bogota first. Even with a long time it's staffed enough to get you thru and also the reality is.
They handle so much volume and don't have the headline grabbing pressure that Med does, looking to make examples out of people.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2986556]I always fly into Bogota first, and when leaving the same Unless I have a very late night flight out direct, always go into Bogota first. Even with a long time it's staffed enough to get you thru and also the reality is.
They handle so much volume and don't have the headline grabbing pressure that Med does, looking to make examples out of people.[/QUOTE]Is it always the case that it is much faster for a domestic flight in MDE vs an Intl flight? I may fork out a layover just to skip the 3 hours wait in MDE customs.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2986556]I always fly into Bogota first, and when leaving the same Unless I have a very late night flight out direct, always go into Bogota first. Even with a long time it's staffed enough to get you thru and also the reality is.
They handle so much volume and don't have the headline grabbing pressure that Med does, looking to make examples out of people.[/QUOTE]So is it worth taking a layover or even a longer layover through Bogota than flying direct to MDE to avoid the long lines? I would expect some long lines for domestic flights as well?
Cheers.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2986556]I always fly into Bogota first, and when leaving the same Unless I have a very late night flight out direct, always go into Bogota first. Even with a long time it's staffed enough to get you thru and also the reality is.
They handle so much volume and don't have the headline grabbing pressure that Med does, looking to make examples out of people.[/QUOTE]I went through Bogota last time on my way to Santa Marta. I couldn't believe how long the line was, but yes, it was well staffed and made it through in about 90 min. I haven't been to Medellin in a while. That sucks-- a 3 hour wait! I remember it being fast in the past. I would transfer in Panama City and land in Medellin. Landing in Cali through Panama City had about a 5 min wait in line!
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2986556]I always fly into Bogota first, and when leaving the same Unless I have a very late night flight out direct, always go into Bogota first. Even with a long time it's staffed enough to get you thru and also the reality is.
They handle so much volume and don't have the headline grabbing pressure that Med does, looking to make examples out of people.[/QUOTE]I can see doing that. The Bogota agents were always more professional than what I saw in Medellin. Bogota is a big business town and Cartagena is a tourist town, so they seem to handle people differently. I could feel the disgust of a Medellin agent who thought I was a typical monger until she saw my gal and her daughter and then the agent completely changed her attitude. It was an eye opener because I had never been treated that badly anywhere else.
There was a Spirit flight from Orlando to Cartagena that was the first international flight to arrive. If you were in the front of the plane, you could get through immigration / customs in 5 minutes tops. I do not recall a problem getting out of Medellin but with Cartagena where they check your BP and ID, sometimes they have one person and 1 hour plus waits. Most times it is well staffed and you can get through quickly. Bogota is pretty efficient and consistent with all their machines now.
When you fly back into the USA, lately customs has not been that ridiculous. New York was probably the worst as expected but not by much. On the flip side, the crew at Orlando was by far the nicest and even though it is a zoo, I really like all the amenities at the Orlando Airport. If I had my way, I would always connect there over Lauderdale or Miami.
That is wacko. I'm thinking it might be another labor protest.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2986407]When I was in the 3 hour Immigration line at Medellin, I counted the number of Immigration officers handling the hundreds of foreigners waiting patiently: one.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2986407]When I was in the 3 hour Immigration line at Medellin, I counted the number of Immigration officers handling the hundreds of foreigners waiting patiently: one.[/QUOTE]3 hours looking at sausages is ruff. Why they don't use technology to speed people through makes little sense.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2986647]3 hours looking at sausages is ruff. Why they don't use technology to speed people through makes little sense.[/QUOTE]Why don't they use technology for anything. I was in Cartagena trying to get a bus ticket to Barranquilla. There was a bus company office across from my hotel. I went over to try to buy a ticket. The lady said I would have to go to the bus station to buy a ticket. Why the fuck do they pay for an office there and someone to be at the office if you can't even buy a ticket. Hell, they could just put a sign on a utility pole to say go to the bus station to buy a ticket. Moreover, why the hell can't you buy a ticket online? Same with the ATM with a line 1 mile long of people to pay bills, while folks in the first world can pay a bill with 2 clicks on their mobile phone. It is 2025 Colombia!
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2986647]3 hours looking at sausages is ruff. Why they don't use technology to speed people through makes little sense.[/QUOTE]I hope Medellin charges more for everything. Maybe the sausage fest will slow down. Bogota is not as beautiful scenery outdoors but the girls are! Few gringos make it that extra 1 hour from out of usa/ Florida. And but then there is Brazil. An extra 6 hours. If I could use Bogota as a rest between Brazil, that would be perfect. Probably not that much rest but breaking up those hours in a row on the plane over 2-3 days layover sounds invigorating.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2986671]Why don't they use technology for anything. I was in Cartagena trying to get a bus ticket to Barranquilla. There was a bus company office across from my hotel. I went over to try to buy a ticket. The lady said I would have to go to the bus station to buy a ticket. Why the fuck do they pay for an office there and someone to be at the office if you can't even buy a ticket. Hell, they could just put a sign on a utility pole to say go to the bus station to buy a ticket. Moreover, why the hell can't you buy a ticket online? Same with the ATM with a line 1 mile long of people to pay bills, while folks in the first world can pay a bill with 2 clicks on their mobile phone. It is 2025 Colombia![/QUOTE]You can buy bus tickets online in Colombia. I do it all the time when I'm there. There's a website and app called Redbus.
[URL]www.redbus.co[/URL]
You type in your Origen and destino and it will show you all the different bus companies that have that route and the times and location of departure and you can pay for the ticket online or in the app with a credit card or debit card and it will email you the ticket.
I Medellin there is terminal del Norte off of the caribe metro station and also terminal del sur near Poblado station and certain routes only leave from the sur bus terminal so make sure you pay attention to that.
Gabacho.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2986727]Bogota is not as beautiful scenery outdoors but the girls are! [/QUOTE]Wish I could breathe with the Bogota altitude and Viagra in my system. I have had to switch to Cialis because Viagra stuffs up my nose. And the air is so thin in Bogota it's hard to make it up a flight of steps!
And I run 5 ks for sport.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2986647]3 hours looking at sausages is ruff. Why they don't use technology to speed people through makes little sense.[/QUOTE]The technology isn't the problem.
Having just one Immigration officer for hundreds of people in line is ridiculous.
While planing my upcoming trip to Medellin, I've been setting up a few dates with some Instagram and Facebook girls. Luckily I came across a post in a Facebook group, about one of girls I've been talking to (Maria Alejandra). In the post it states she has drugged and robbed a client. I also read in another forum she mostly only sees foreigners and is always high on some drug called tussy. I'm assuming she pays off the cops, cause from what I've read she been a working girl for over 5 years and also does some porn (DM for links). DM if you want her phone number, don't think I'm allowed to post it here. I think I dodged a bullet, stay safe guys.
P.S. Thanks to everyone who posts in this forum, I'm somewhat new to the scene and this forum has been extremely helpful for my upcoming trip.
[QUOTE=Degenerate24;2986597]So is it worth taking a layover or even a longer layover through Bogota than flying direct to MDE to avoid the long lines? I would expect some long lines for domestic flights as well?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Domestic flights don't go through customs and immigration so no line.
[QUOTE=Degenerate24;2986597]I would expect some long lines for domestic flights as well?
[/QUOTE]No lines for domestic flight arrivals. Just think about it, why would there be a line?
[QUOTE=Degenerate24;2986597]So is it worth taking a layover or even a longer layover through Bogota than flying direct to MDE to avoid the long lines? I would expect some long lines for domestic flights as well?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]So instead of leaving Miami at 8 am and arriving in Medellin at 11 am to wait in a 3 hour line that lets you out at 2 pm, you propose leaving Miami at 8 am and arriving in Bogota at noon. Then you will wait in a 90 minute line which will release you at 130 pm to go over and catch your 3 pm flight, getting you to Medellin at 4 pm. You just wasted 2 hours of your life because you did not want to wait in the Medellin line.
There are no lines for domestic flights. You scan your boarding pass and go through the gate and put your stuff through the xray then walk to your gate.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2986903]The technology isn't the problem.
Having just one Immigration officer for hundreds of people in line is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Agreed. BKK does not use technology and it has no problem like this.
MDE already has enough technology if they can get it to work properly and utilize it. That's check-mig and stop asking questions that already been answered or just no question at all. That is the same as the airports with technology.
You know what, they got this bright idea of charging for luggage cart and even had a man to guard them with a rope but virtually no one use them all the times when I saw them. They can charge 25 USD for express line and should be able to hire more agents to solve it. I am sure many will be gladly pay for it. LOL.
I also agree with you on Bogota. It definitely is faster and they even send me to some kind a fast lane when I have a short connection,
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2986645]That is wacko. I'm thinking it might be another labor protest.[/QUOTE]It takes me 10 minutes when I arrive and about the same when I leave. I have been to MDE 14 times in 3 years.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2986885]Wish I could breathe with the Bogota altitude and Viagra in my system. I have had to switch to Cialis because Viagra stuffs up my nose. And the air is so thin in Bogota it's hard to make it up a flight of steps!
And I run 5 ks for sport.[/QUOTE]There is a nasal spray that I have bought at pharmacies that has helped, but I know what you mean.
The thing that shocked me is we stayed in a hotel on the Northern outskirts of Bogota called the Sabana Park in the suburb of Cajica, and there was not that awful nasal stuffiness. It is 45 minutes from the airport if there is no traffic, and that is probably going to be my go to hotel in Bogota now.
They have an Andres de Res restaurant in the suburb of Chia and I liked it better than the one in Bogota around the Andino mall. The service was way, way faster in Chia, and Andres is on this road Diagonal 13 with an amazing number of restaurants that looked good.
Yeah, you are not close to Santa Fe but there is some action in the North. There are some colleges up that way, and I wonder if the women there would have down for sugar relationships. I bet they would.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2986903]The technology isn't the problem.
Having just one Immigration officer for hundreds of people in line is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Technology could solve some problems. BioMig and other things seem to work well and speed up the process. CheckMig was a disaster because of incompetence, but it could have saved time and hassle if it was working well and the government was using it for that. It's almost like they need to contract out someone to streamline the process for them. Hiring more agents would help, but I'm not a fan of the work ethic and potential labor slow downs, etc. , so I would prefer to see automation. I enter cities like London now with no human contact and no stamp. I don't see why it can't be the same for city like Medellin, especially if you are a repeat visitor.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2987015]Technology could solve some problems. BioMig and other things seem to work well and speed up the process. CheckMig was a disaster because of incompetence, but it could have saved time and hassle if it was working well [/QUOTE]I am at my girl's house in Dominican Republic. It is 8:44 am and the water is off in the neighborhood as it is every morning. It was off a period last night too. But that online immigration shit they have works like a top. Never had any problem with it. Never had a problem with the water being off in Colombia, but they have the shittiest immigration system ever. Even leaving the country, those Biomig machines can not read my passport. Dominican Republic (Punta Cana specifically) all you have to do is scan your boarding pass when you are leaving and the gate opens (like the ones for domestic flights in Bogota).
Checkmig helps speed up the lines in immigration. It is optional. You will notice if you don't use checkmig the immigration agents will ask you the same questions that are on the checkmig form. It doesn't make a big difference for the time any individual traveler spends at the immigration booth, but multiply that by however many are filling the immigration hall when you land and it easy to see the opportunity. If more people used it the line would move faster. I don't go back and forth enough to do it automatically. When I do remember I do it.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2987015]Technology could solve some problems. BioMig and other things seem to work well and speed up the process. CheckMig was a disaster because of incompetence, but it could have saved time and hassle if it was working well and the government was using it for that. It's almost like they need to contract out someone to streamline the process for them. Hiring more agents would help, but I'm not a fan of the work ethic and potential labor slow downs, etc. , so I would prefer to see automation. I enter cities like London now with no human contact and no stamp. I don't see why it can't be the same for city like Medellin, especially if you are a repeat visitor.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2987082]Checkmig helps speed up the lines in immigration. It is optional. You will notice if you don't use checkmig the immigration agents will ask you the same questions that are on the checkmig form. It doesn't make a big difference for the time any individual traveler spends at the immigration booth, but multiply that by however many are filling the immigration hall when you land and it easy to see the opportunity. If more people used it the line would move faster. I don't go back and forth enough to do it automatically. When I do remember I do it.[/QUOTE]I always use CheckMig and still get asked some of the same questions by the Agent. Also, you're not supposed to be able to Checkin to go to Colombia without it (or this was the policy before) so in theory everyone should have done it. At that point, like Mr E referred to in the DR and has been my experience in other countries, particularly now with facial recognition, the machine can check your passport and verify it is you. The machine can even calculate the amount of days you stayed in the country. Europe is moving towards this. The Agents can be more like the Helpers at a Self Checkout. I see this in the USA as well when you are boarding a plane and the facial recognition opens the gate. I think we all have a Biometric chip or something like that embedded in our passports.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2986885]Wish I could breathe with the Bogota altitude and Viagra in my system. I have had to switch to Cialis because Viagra stuffs up my nose. And the air is so thin in Bogota it's hard to make it up a flight of steps!
And I run 5 ks for sport.[/QUOTE]Here is a possibility for you to consider. Instead of flying directly to Bogota and suffering for a few days (or however long it takes your body to adjust to the altitude) try spending a few days in Medellin first. The altitude is about 4700 feet. A few days there and you will adjust to that altitude presumably with fewer problems. Then go to Bogota and you may find that the adjustment from 4700 feet to 8500 feet is not nearly as taxing.
March 3 article
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-03-03/facebook-tinder-airbnb-apps-are-used-for-sex-trafficking-in-colombia
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2987101] particularly now with facial recognition, the machine can check your passport and verify it is you[/QUOTE]It has been available for at least 5 years or more in some developed countries. One can enter and depart without talking to airline agent or immigration. And when there is a problem with machine, it tells you to go to an agent and there is no line either, stamped and left. I saw Avianca tried to automate baggage drop-off with machines but it was still huge lines and did not work as well as those in the developed countries with similar setup.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2987244]It has been available for at least 5 years or more in some developed countries. One can enter and depart without talking to airline agent or immigration. And when there is a problem with machine, it tells you to go to an agent and there is no line either, stamped and left. I saw Avianca tried to automate baggage drop-off with machines but it was still huge lines and did not work as well as those in the developed countries with similar setup.[/QUOTE]BioMig uses something like this and has been in Colombia for a couple of years now so they are aware of the technology. Why they haven't expanded this to foreigners entering the country is the question. What is the Agent doing that can't be automated?
CheckMig collected information but there were programming errors that were easily fixable and it didn't function or was down way too often. Could probably get some high school kids in the USA to design an app that correctly translates into different languages, collects the information and doesn't always crash.
There seems to be competing objectives between not wanting to make entry by foreigners a quicker and easier process versus wanting more tourist revenue for the country.
All the most infamous cases are in the story. I hadn't heard about the Divencezo case in probably two years. The new angle are social media and share apps. Yesterday was a bad day for the public affairs departments of those Silicone Valley companies. They have much too much money to face any significant problems in Colombia. If anyone still wonders why border agents are asking to see social media, this is the reason. We can thank the youtube guys dand the infamous passport bros for this.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2987166]March 3 article
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-03-03/facebook-tinder-airbnb-apps-are-used-for-sex-trafficking-in-colombia[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2986645]That is wacko. I'm thinking it might be another labor protest.[/QUOTE]There is no labor protest anymore, the long lines were here before the protest and afterwards, the problem is not having enough agents on to handle the amount of people and that is what the protest was about, staffing.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2987347]There is no labor protest anymore, the long lines were here before the protest and afterwards, the problem is not having enough agents on to handle the amount of people and that is what the protest was about, staffing.[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong but the from my experience the custom agents in Medellin have always been more difficult than say in Bogota or Cartagena. Especially if you don't know Spanish, I can't imagine the back and forth between Trump and President Petro will make them any nicer.
[QUOTE=KhaosMamba;2985993]Hey guys I'll be coming back to Medellin from September 5 - 13 but this time solo. Last time I came I stuck exclusively with Loutron and La Celestina to see girls so I'll prob do the same or end up going to Luna strip club also. I ended up seeing someone from Parque Illeras but didn't really like the selection I saw when I was there. For me Loutron had few 8's in there maybe 1 or 2 9's. Purely subjective of course so others have a few diff opinions. Anyone got any recommendations to find those model types around the same quality facially as the girls in Loutron? I'm 25 yrs old so prefer looking for girls 20 -29 yrs old but early 30's will do also haha. If anyone else is heading down there the same time too let me know.[/QUOTE]Keeping you in the Lleras area there is also Gusto. They are more expensive, but you can usually have the girl for several hours. I was just there last weekend and the prices were between 300-400 dollars. Yes, those girls want dollars, but I had one willing to accept PayPal. You can ask the door guys if there are girls there yet. It's usually about 11 pm - 11:30 pm when the selection starts arriving. Lleras is hit or miss, but the young ones often come out later, let's say midnight.
Purple Elixir is another fantastic option.
This place is fantastic. I was there twice last week and had sessions with Valery and Lorena. I also met most if not all of the girls listed on their website and they look pretty darn similar to their photos. The price for an hour was 160 - 180 mil pesos, or roughly $40-$45 dollars. No additional fee for the house. You can message them on WhatsApp and book an appointment for just show up, open the gate, and ring the doorbell. They will bring the girls for a lineup. Pay the girl directly in the room and that's it.
The only negative for me is that it's not a GFE which I enjoy, but these girls are pros.
Lorena was absolutely flawless. She's probably 25-27 years old with no body fat. Fake tits, but not huge, her butt was real and super firm. You can also pull out of the house and back to your hotel.
Valery had an adorable personality. I met her when she was on break and wearing some little crop top and tiny shorts. I did the lineup, which was missing Lorena and Angelas they were busy with one of you guys LOL. I chose Valeryand she was fun and flexible. My only complaint about her is I wish that I pushed for a shower first or maybe wash her hands, because she smelt like cigarette smoke. I don't smoke so I don't want that smell and I didn't realize it until we already started so I just dealt with it. The session was still fantastic.
Valery says that she was 22 and she's probably between 22-25. Its so hard for me to tell now LOL.
Valery is a tiny, all-natural, blanquita, but a smoker, but I feel like a lot of these girls are smokers.
My next time there I will choose Angel. If you like the skinny girls, then look at Angel on the Purple Elixir website, and those pics are very accurate.
Reference, I'm in my mid 40's, and I typically only pick young, tiny, 20-year-olds. I'm dating a few in this age range (you have to love Colombia) so I should be a good gauge of age, but who knows anymore. I keep getting older and they stay the same age LOL.
[URL]https://elixirpurpura.com/[/URL] For the lineup and their WhatsApp info.
[QUOTE=LetsGoMets;2986285]*I'll be visiting Medellin in two weeks to meet up with some military veterans. They know the country well, but it'll be my first time there. I like using SA when I travel to places where I don't know many localsthough here in Peru, I've been living for a year, so I don't really need it. That said, I'd appreciate any advice or helpful info!
I don't drink much, but I do smoke (plant medicine for PTSD). I also know a local tattoo artist who was referred to me by my artist here in Lima.
I'm 38, American-Italian from Brooklyn, NY. I prefer 20-25 petite chicksfunny enough, all my friends are obsessed with fake ass and tits, but that's not my thing, so it actually helps when we travel.
DM me if you have any tips, and safe travels![/QUOTE]Greetings from Queens. Home of the Mets.
How many friends are you bringing? Depending on your lodgings you may have some trouble going at the same time to some of the outcall spots. If you're willing to split up or go based on your reservation time [URL]https://elixirpurpura.com/[/URL] this spot seems to have been getting some solid reviews.
[QUOTE=Sparky12;2987385]I was just there last weekend and the prices were between 300-400 dollars. Yes, those girls want dollars, but I had one willing to accept PayPal. [/QUOTE]Damn, that's crazy. I walked through there last Saturday because I happened to be in the area. Was talking to a girl that works at one of the bars. I looked around for a bit and there were a few cuties. This was around 2 am.
Didn't know they were talking those kind of numbers. Dudes really ruined that market.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2987463]Damn, that's crazy. I walked through there last Saturday because I happened to be in the area. Was talking to a girl that works at one of the bars. I looked around for a bit and there were a few cuties. This was around 2 am.
Didn't know they were talking those kind of numbers. Dudes really ruined that market.[/QUOTE]Those are Gusto numbers. Not so much outside of the club in Lleras.
I came in January and the prices have skyrocketed. There are women 6's and 7's demanding $200, $250 and even $300 USD an hour. I would never pay those outrageous prices even in the US! Just a year or 2 the women were happy with 50-75 and now these women have become entitled. What have you guys done to this place? These prices are outrageous and are only going up. Must you weekend warriors ruin everything?!
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2987799]I came in January and the prices have skyrocketed. There are women 6's and 7's demanding $200, $250 and even $300 USD an hour. I would never pay those outrageous prices even in the US! Just a year or 2 the women were happy with 50-75 and now these women have become entitled. What have you guys done to this place? These prices are outrageous and are only going up. Must you weekend warriors ruin everything?![/QUOTE]I've been traveling to Medellin several times a year for years. I rarely go to Poblado. I wondered if the weekend warriors were really a problem because there were only a few on the flights I've been on. Those flights were usually mid-week. I returned to the US last Sunday. I saw the problem. Close to half the people on that flight were young gringo men. Very few family units, which made up most of the mid-week passengers. I have many young female acquaintances in Medellin who still provide what I want for under 300 mil, but I have communicated with new ones who want 4-500 mil. One quoted one million pesos. I wrote her off as someone who didn't want to see me.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2987799]I came in January and the prices have skyrocketed. There are women 6's and 7's demanding $200, $250 and even $300 USD an hour. I would never pay those outrageous prices even in the US! Just a year or 2 the women were happy with 50-75 and now these women have become entitled. What have you guys done to this place? These prices are outrageous and are only going up. Must you weekend warriors ruin everything?![/QUOTE]I remember saying the same thing years ago when the prices went over $10!
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2987818]IClose to half the people on that flight were young gringo men. [/QUOTE]Yep, Medellin and Sosua are pretty much a wrap now. I'm guessing the same for Cartagena? I'm not about nostalgia, but we got to be realistic. Mongering will always be around but gone are the "good ole days. " Prices rarely, if ever, go down. Enjoy it while it lasts because nothing lasts forever. Part of what made these places great was that there weren't a lot of knuckleheads. Now they are run over with Knuckleheads.
My guess is more dudes will eventually make their way to Bogota. I'm sure the reviews on this site of specific places there will help spread the word.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2987818]I've been traveling to Medellin several times a year for years. I rarely go to Poblado. ...I have many young female acquaintances in Medellin who still provide what I want for under 300 mil, but I have communicated with new ones who want 4-500 mil. One quoted one million pesos. I wrote her off as someone who didn't want to see me.[/QUOTE]Sometimes it's our breath, weight, short pants and sandals with socks, age being almost 70, some of these chica chicks just think we have shriveled dicks that match the wrinkles on our face. But thanks to the wonder drug, vitamin V and Cialis I can fuck with the best of the young punks, at least every other day!
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2987830]Yep, Medellin and Sosua are pretty much a wrap now. I'm guessing the same for Cartagena? I'm not about nostalgia, but we got to be realistic. Mongering will always be around but gone are the "good ole days. " Prices rarely, if ever, go down. Enjoy it while it lasts because nothing lasts forever. Part of what made these places great was that there weren't a lot of knuckleheads. Now they are run over with Knuckleheads.
My guess is more dudes will eventually make their way to Bogota. I'm sure the reviews on this site of specific places there will help spread the word.[/QUOTE]I don't see it with Bogota. Purely for mongering, it's great. But the weather is much less pleasant than Medellin and it's not a particularly attractive city.
You are right though. Guys will find other places. Though it might be a good idea to not spread the word! Even though that's the purpose of this website.
[QUOTE=Combo;2987864]I don't see it with Bogota. Purely for mongering, it's great. But the weather is much less pleasant than Medellin and it's not a particularly attractive city.
You are right though. Guys will find other places. Though it might be a good idea to not spread the word! Even though that's the purpose of this website.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm strictly talking mongering not a vacation destination. As more and more of the blueprint becomes available to everyone and guys travel with their crews and those groups grow exponentially, it will probably happen. We're not talking tomorrow. It will take some time.
If anyone is able to let me know that for those hotels in centro, such as Nutibara Hotel, Mandala Hotel, ect. When we take girls or other female guest to my room, the reception of the hotel normally will take the girls ID?
I ask this question, the aim is to know more before I choose one of these centro hotels.
Many thanks guys.
Is there a thread on San Andres? I want to go soon for 2-3 days, looking for advice. I might fly in a Medellin amiga but not if it is not necessary. Please PM if you like.
If anyone is able to let me know that for those hotels in centro, such as Nutibara Hotel, Mandala Hotel, ect. When we take girls or other female guest to my room, the reception of the hotel normally will take the girls ID?
I ask this question, the aim is to know more before I choose one of these centro hotels.
Many thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2987901]Is there a thread on San Andres? I want to go soon for 2-3 days, looking for advice. I might fly in a Medellin amiga but not if it is not necessary. Please PM if you like.[/QUOTE]Yes.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2164-San-Andres[/URL]
[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2987901]Is there a thread on San Andres? I want to go soon for 2-3 days, looking for advice. I might fly in a Medellin amiga but not if it is not necessary. Please PM if you like.[/QUOTE]If you look down the list of thread titles, San Andres is there.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2987799]I came in January and the prices have skyrocketed. There are women 6's and 7's demanding $200, $250 and even $300 USD an hour. I would never pay those outrageous prices even in the US! Just a year or 2 the women were happy with 50-75 and now these women have become entitled. What have you guys done to this place? These prices are outrageous and are only going up. Must you weekend warriors ruin everything?![/QUOTE]Your use of the word "demanding" makes me want to puke. I've said this a million times before don't ask how much they want, tell them how much you pay, simple. And just because chicas are asking crazy numbers doesn't mean you have to pay it or that they are getting it regularly. I just spent four nights in Meddy and had two different chicas that were drop dead gorgeous and agreed to MY list of demands prior to hitting the cama. I paid both of them 400 k for several hours and they are begging me to return. One girl has offered to take the 5 hour bus ride from Meddy to Manizales where I live for an extra 100 k. 99% of these girls need money badly, there are only a select few that don't and they are easy to spot by any monger worth his salt. I'm very generous to the chicas that take care of me but they are not captain of the ship, I am. Be nice, don't haggle over small numbers but don't let these chicas think that their pussy is made of gold, it's not. And no, Medellin is not ruined. There is certainly some weekend warriors from up north trying to but Medellin is too big of a city, they are a piss hole in the snow unless your demographic is only Parque Lleras, go where those guys aren't and you will see that Medellin is still a mecca for quality poontang.
I stayed in Nutibara end of October / early November 2024 and yes, they took the girl's ID, made a copy, a notation in a notebook and then we went to the room.
The ID was returned when we went back downstairs to leave, this makes sure you're ok and no problems.
I haven't looked in or stayed at the Mandala, so I can't comment on that one.
Nutibara is a nice, albeit dated, hotel and I would definitely pay the $10-15 more a night to get the Superior Double Room with Terrace because you get a walkout onto the rooftop, with fences separating your room's part of the terrace from others. It's really a spectacular view, but especially at night.
On top of that I found the personnel to be super nice, very helpful, and the breakfast was just mas o menos, but since it's included, I always ate there.
[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2987912]If anyone is able to let me know that for those hotels in centro, such as Nutibara Hotel, Mandala Hotel, ect. When we take girls or other female guest to my room, the reception of the hotel normally will take the girls ID?
I ask this question, the aim is to know more before I choose one of these centro hotels.
Many thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2987900]If anyone is able to let me know that for those hotels in centro, such as Nutibara Hotel, Mandala Hotel, ect. When we take girls or other female guest to my room, the reception of the hotel normally will take the girls ID?
I ask this question, the aim is to know more before I choose one of these centro hotels.
Many thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Yes, the hotel will check their ID and make sure that they are of age before you take them upstairs.
[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2987901]Is there a thread on San Andres? I want to go soon for 2-3 days, looking for advice. I might fly in a Medellin amiga but not if it is not necessary. Please PM if you like.[/QUOTE]Bring a girl with you. San Andres is a fantastic destination when you bring a girl with you. I've heard about a some guys doing prepagados online and that the girls are actually there on the island, but I have not experienced this nor have I seen any true evidence supporting this and I've spent months in San Andres.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;2987799]I came in January and the prices have skyrocketed. There are women 6's and 7's demanding $200, $250 and even $300 USD an hour. I would never pay those outrageous prices even in the US! Just a year or 2 the women were happy with 50-75 and now these women have become entitled. What have you guys done to this place? These prices are outrageous and are only going up. Must you weekend warriors ruin everything?![/QUOTE]The cost is climbing on everything my friend. The cost of eggs, chicken, gas, and chicas. But you can still negotiate on chicas.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2988015]Your use of the word "demanding" makes me want to puke. I've said this a million times before don't ask how much they want, tell them how much you pay, simple. And just because chicas are asking crazy numbers doesn't mean you have to pay it or that they are getting it regularly. I just spent four nights in Meddy and had two different chicas that were drop dead gorgeous and agreed to MY list of demands prior to hitting the cama. I paid both of them 400 k for several hours and they are begging me to return. One girl has offered to take the 5 hour bus ride from Meddy to Manizales where I live for an extra 100 k. 99% of these girls need money badly, there are only a select few that don't and they are easy to spot by any monger worth his salt. I'm very generous to the chicas that take care of me but they are not captain of the ship, I am. Be nice, don't haggle over small numbers but don't let these chicas think that their pussy is made of gold, it's not. And no, Medellin is not ruined. There is certainly some weekend warriors from up north trying to but Medellin is too big of a city, they are a piss hole in the snow unless your demographic is only Parque Lleras, go where those guys aren't and you will see that Medellin is still a mecca for quality poontang.[/QUOTE]Well spoken words of wisdoms from someone with real experience and knowledge in Colombia. A lot of these guys come down to Medellin and all they ever know is Poblado and parque Lleras. They are afraid to go to Centro and Bello or barrios like Aranjuez, Popular, and Santo Domingo yet they speak as if they are experts based on what a few hookers in parque Lleras' asking prices.
Not only that, but these guys also never go to the real towns of Colombia where you can find quality women at much lower prices, places like Pereira Armenia and Villavicencio outside of Bogota or even Cucuta on the border when Venezuela. Instead they stay in their gringo expat camps in el Poblado in their plastic barrios and get ripped off and then complain that Colombia is ruined.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2988040]They are afraid to go to Centro and Bello or barrios like Aranjuez, Popular, and Santo Domingo yet they speak as if they are experts based on what a few hookers in parque Lleras' asking prices..[/QUOTE]El Centro was good before the pandemic. Haven't been in awhile but used to love the strip clubs and casas. Fell off IMO, especially the casa scene. I'm usually only in El Centro now to see concerts or shows on the weekends.
Never mongered in those barrios but have delt with regular babes. What are the monger spots in Santo Domingo or Bello? I've only gone on dates in those areas.
Never mongered in Lleras but I can see the appeal. Most guys want point and click near their hotels or apartments. Also, the Facebook mongers are probably pulling chics from those areas without having to go there.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2988099]
Never mongered in those barrios but have delt with regular babes. What are the monger spots in Santo Domingo or Bello? I've only gone on dates in those areas.[/QUOTE]No I'm not talking about clubs or casas. I'm talking about meeting chicas online thru Facebook for example. Alot of them live in those barrios and in Bello. I've mongered in Bello with a Facebook chica and subsequently her cousin who met up with me at a 3 hour short time hotel called Hotel America in Bello. There are other short time fuck hotels in Bello as well.
Many chicas also come from santo domingo and popular 1 and 2 as well as Aranjuez area. Many of them can be found thru Facebook.
-Gabacho.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2988111]No I'm not talking about clubs or casas. I'm talking about meeting chicas online thru Facebook for example. Alot of them live in those barrios and in Bello. I've mongered in Bello with a Facebook chica and subsequently her cousin who met up with me at a 3 hour short time hotel called Hotel America in Bello. There are other short time fuck hotels in Bello as well.
Many chicas also come from santo domingo and popular 1 and 2 as well as Aranjuez area. Many of them can be found thru Facebook.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I mentioned that the FB mongers are probably hooking up with chics in those areas.
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[QUOTE=Medclubber;2988309]If you go to Cucuta, or any venezuelan border town, you're really an idiot. Especially these days.[/QUOTE]Spoken by a true idiot himself LOL.
Maybe you need to do more research and investigation and read some of the reports on Cucuta by yours truly as well as members Pokeris and TheTallMan.
But hey, it's fine I get it, you're one of the Poblado Boys. Stick to what you know in parque lleras and gustos. It's actually probably better if you don't go making it rain in the other cities and pueblos and go fucking it up like you did el poblado.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;2988585]If you go to a war zone because the pussy is cheaper there, yeah you're and idiot.
[URL]https://efe.com/mundo/2025-02-22/violencia-catatumbo-cucuta/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/otras-ciudades/declaran-toque-de-queda-en-cucuta-por-crisis-de-seguridad-en-la-frontera-3428907[/URL]
[URL]https://www.infobae.com/colombia/2025/03/09/nuevo-enfrentamiento-entre-el-eln-y-disidencias-de-las-farc-en-el-catatumbo/[/URL]
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/23/colombia-violence-eln-cucuta[/QUOTE]They've been pushing propaganda in the media for many years. Hell when I was going to cucuta it was right after they tried to shoot down Ivan Duque's helicopter. And guess what? Nothing happened to me. Except I fucked a bunch of vennies for 25 mil COP on la setenta and stayed at Mar Hotel for 50 mil COP a night.
If you believe all the propaganda maybe you should just stay home in your mother's basement wanking your little wee wee, because the US Department of state just issued travel advisories to 126 countries and Colombia is now level 3 reconsider travel. So yea if you believe all the news bullshit then just stay home.
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/warnings-issued-americans-traveling-126-destinations-2041288[/URL]
Appreciate gents who answered my question regarding centro hotels, again with you that some centro.
Hotel is a convenient one to stay.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2988322]Spoken by a true idiot himself LOL.
Maybe you need to do more research and investigation and read some of the reports on Cucuta by yours truly as well as members Pokeris and TheTallMan.[/QUOTE]Come on man. You are mentioning outliers. Most people are afraid of their own shadow and have to fuck in hospital conditions. Look at all the people who were afraid during covid. Meanwhile I was smack dab in the middle of Santa Fe with no vax.
I hung out with Pokeris in Rio. He does not give a damn either. He will walk into the middle of a cannibal tribe if he heard they have pussy there. He does not let shit like not knowing the language or crime statistics stop him. He is 100% the real deal.
[QUOTE=Sparky12;2988028]The cost is climbing on everything my friend. The cost of eggs, chicken, gas, and chicas. But you can still negotiate on chicas.[/QUOTE]If you "negotiate" with them to lower the price then you get a shorter session, they will stop and try to upcharge for "extras" and leave you with blue balls.
[QUOTE=Nomars777;2988019]I stayed in Nutibara end of October / early November 2024 and yes, they took the girl's ID, made a copy, a notation in a notebook and then we went to the room.[/QUOTE]Were they still limiting visitors to specific hours?
[QUOTE=Sparky12;2987390]
[URL]https://elixirpurpura.com/[/URL] For the lineup and their WhatsApp info.[/QUOTE]What was the damage and which neighborhood are they in?
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2988587]They've been pushing propaganda in the media for many years. Hell when I was going to cucuta it was right after they tried to shoot down Ivan Duque's helicopter. And guess what? Nothing happened to me. Except I fucked a bunch of vennies for 25 mil COP on la setenta and stayed at Mar Hotel for 50 mil COP a night.
If you believe all the propaganda maybe you should just stay home in your mother's basement wanking your little wee wee, because the US Department of state just issued travel advisories to 126 countries and Colombia is now level 3 reconsider travel. So yea if you believe all the news bullshit then just stay home.
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/warnings-issued-americans-traveling-126-destinations-2041288[/URL][/QUOTE]La Septima*.
Would be interested in some of these fb groups. Seems like a better plan than getting ripped off on lleras. I'm heading to Medellin today.
I was charged no fee, but it was around 6 PM. I remember hearing that they charge a fee after 6 or 7 PM, but I can't say how much it was since I only ever took girls to the room during the afternoon.
[QUOTE=L00PY;2988662]Were they still limiting visitors to specific hours?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2988611]Come on man. You are mentioning outliers. Most people are afraid of their own shadow and have to fuck in hospital conditions. Look at all the people who were afraid during covid. Meanwhile I was smack dab in the middle of Santa Fe with no vax.
I hung out with Pokeris in Rio. He does not give a damn either. He will walk into the middle of a cannibal tribe if he heard they have pussy there. He does not let shit like not knowing the language or crime statistics stop him. He is 100% the real deal.[/QUOTE]I hung out with Pokeris in Jakarta. We even went to the infamous train tracks where street hookers fuck in the shacks for $10. Unfortunately we got there too early to see the action, I guess it starts around 9 or 10 pm and we got there around 6 pm. He's a great dude to go exploring with tho, a fearless monger such as myself. In fact we hung out on several occasions in Jakarta ate street food at an ayam goreng street stall, I showed him Classic Terminal 5, we hit up the Kota Indah bars and Travel too. I can't imagine this medclubber guy doing anything like that, "afraid of his own shadow" is an accurate description.
Gabacho.
[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2988602]Appreciate gents who answered my question regarding centro hotels, again with you that some centro.
Hotel is a convenient one to stay.[/QUOTE]Hotel Casa Real (not to be confused with hotel calle real) is a cheap hotel in Centro located close to an exito and close enough to walk to Plaza Botero and Parque Berrio areas. Lots of good cheap restaurants nearby as well. I used to stay there before I got my apartment. At the time it was 28 k COP per night. Hotel is girl friendly and charges a small 6 k fee per guest.
It's located on el palo con el huevo. That's carrera 45 #46-09.
-Gabacho.
My girl in crocoda says there a lot of problems. And even before the problem she told me I couldn't go anyplace on the street aside from the casino. You may have better luck if you don't look like me because I look pretty much like a gringo. Which granted I am with some of the guys on here are too.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2988322]Spoken by a true idiot himself LOL.
Maybe you need to do more research and investigation and read some of the reports on Cucuta by yours truly as well as members Pokeris and TheTallMan.
But hey, it's fine I get it, you're one of the Poblado Boys. Stick to what you know in parque lleras and gustos. It's actually probably better if you don't go making it rain in the other cities and pueblos and go fucking it up like you did el poblado.[/QUOTE]
Just curious, where did you pull a chica from at that time of day? Just curious because I am going to be looking around that time as well. Wasn't sure if the ladies were out Parque Lleras yet.
[QUOTE=Nomars777;2988733]I was charged no fee, but it was around 6 PM. I remember hearing that they charge a fee after 6 or 7 PM, but I can't say how much it was since I only ever took girls to the room during the afternoon.[/QUOTE]
The afternoon, I generally spend downtown (el centro) near Plaza Botero and as that was the case, plus I wanted to try out Hotel Nutibara, I stayed at the Nutibara. Nice older hotel.
Because the short time rooms are available for $12-15 k for 20-30 minutes, I usually just take them to one of those rooms. If I've been with one and know she's good, I took her to the Nutibara, where before 6 PM at least, there was no chica charge. I didn't ask, but should have, about the cost after 7 PM or whenever time the cutoff is, but even then it's supposed to be reasonable.
Now, that said, I have wandered Lleras on a Sunday afternoon last October and had quite a few good choices wandering around. Not nearly as many as after dark when ALL the girls come out, but there were more than a handful that were to my liking, plus fewer other customers, so the rates were good. Had a nice mocha complected one that I took back for 2+ hours to my hotel for only $200 k. Very nice service, she even fell asleep after we'd finished the deal, so sweet.
Anyway, I digress. Basically the Nutibara is a decently nice, very reasonably priced hotel right across the street from all the Botero craziness.
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Stl24;2988863]Just curious, where did you pull a chica from at that time of day? Just curious because I am going to be looking around that time as well. Wasn't sure if the ladies were out Parque Lleras yet.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2979413]I heard toda la noche alot in Mexico but when I started going to Bogota and later to Medellin I quickly picked up the word "amanecida" from the vennies. It comes from the word amanecer meaning to wake up. You may have heard "como amanecio?" in Medellin it means how do you awaken.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Hi Gabacho,
How are you? I follow your posts and reviews and honestly I am very grateful for your reviews.
Kevin.
[QUOTE=Nomars777;2988865]The afternoon, I generally spend downtown (el centro) near Plaza Botero and as that was the case, plus I wanted to try out Hotel Nutibara, I stayed at the Nutibara. Nice older hotel.
[/QUOTE]Is Nutibara a roach hotel?
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2988929]Is Nutibara a roach hotel?[/QUOTE]I once had one of the bigger variety in my room.
I do not consider it a roach hotel, no.
The upper floor room I stayed in was actually quite nice, see pictures at [URL]Booking.com[/URL], my room looked exactly like that.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2988929]Is Nutibara a roach hotel?[/QUOTE]
I've stayed there only one night when I was having some work done at my apartment. I saw roaches. I didn't see a lot of roaches and I only have one night's experience, so I would take that with a grain of salt.
[QUOTE=Nomars777;2988982]I do not consider it a roach hotel, no.
The upper floor room I stayed in was actually quite nice, see pictures at [URL]Booking.com[/URL], my room looked exactly like that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2988834]Hotel Casa Real (not to be confused with hotel calle real) is a cheap hotel in Centro located close to an exito and close enough to walk to Plaza Botero and Parque Berrio areas. Lots of good cheap restaurants nearby as well. I used to stay there before I got my apartment. At the time it was 28 k COP per night. Hotel is girl friendly and charges a small 6 k fee per guest.
It's located on el palo con el huevo. That's carrera 45 #46-09.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]My problem with Centro hotels is the noise. I did not have that problem at Nutibarra but others such as Le Gran were quite problematic. How is Casa Real for noise?
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2988998]I've stayed there only one night when I was having some work done at my apartment. I saw roaches. I didn't see a lot of roaches and I only have one night's experience, so I would take that with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]I just came from El Centro 10 minutes ago. Centro is great for shopping. Especially, buying fruit and vegetables.
I've seen roaches in casas. I seen rats in Parque Bolivar. I would have been kinda surprised if there were no roaches in Nutibara. The place looks old and there is filth and crackheads and junkies all around there. For some people, it's not a big thing. I was just curious because I have entertained the idea of staying there for the experience.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2989009]My problem with Centro hotels is the noise. I did not have that problem at Nutibarra but others such as Le Gran were quite problematic. How is Casa Real for noise?[/QUOTE]Yea it an get quite noisy especially with the buses going by that corner there. Even at night there is alot of noise until like 3 am.
[QUOTE=LoneWolf76;2986909]While planing my upcoming trip to Medellin, I've been setting up a few dates with some Instagram and Facebook girls. Luckily I came across a post in a Facebook group, about one of girls I've been talking to (Maria Alejandra). In the post it states she has drugged and robbed a client. I also read in another forum she mostly only sees foreigners and is always high on some drug called tussy. I'm assuming she pays off the cops, cause from what I've read she been a working girl for over 5 years and also does some porn (DM for links). DM if you want her phone number, don't think I'm allowed to post it here. I think I dodged a bullet, stay safe guys.
P.S. Thanks to everyone who posts in this forum, I'm somewhat new to the scene and this forum has been extremely helpful for my upcoming trip.[/QUOTE]Do you know of any other chicas that do porn. It's on my bucket list to hook up with a porn star. I'll be in medellin next month. TIA.
I've stayed at the Nutibara a bunch of times. You'll occasionally see them treating for pests. I didn't see any roaches when I've stayed there. The higher up in the building you are the better off you are. The lower floors are definitely target a different clientele, more local. For some reason I got the impression that at one point you had outpatient recovery on some of the lower floors even. They're nice basic rooms.
The rooms I've stayed in were very loud. If you wanted to turn in early, you really couldn't with the music from the clubs below blasting. They shut off promptly at closing time though.
The area was on the rougher side, like on the edge of barely acceptable by my standards. Walking past panhandlers, homeless, and druggies while entering or exiting the hotel was pretty common place. I never felt terribly unsafe walking to or from the hotel, even from the nearby strip clubs well after midnight.
That all said, it's right in El Centro. I really enjoy the location personally and think that more than makes up for its downsides. If you like El Centro, the action, the clubs, and the nearby casas, it's a great hotel to stay in. If you're more of a Parque Lleras or Gustos type guy, I wouldn't recommend it.
I think there will be a lot less noise if you get a Nutibara room that looks out on the back side of the hotel.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2989009]My problem with Centro hotels is the noise. I did not have that problem at Nutibarra but others such as Le Gran were quite problematic. How is Casa Real for noise?[/QUOTE]
This video popped up in my feed. The guy shows the usual suspects making it rain in a bar in Parque Lleras and also talks about how Provenza is like the old Lleras when locals would party there.
[URL]https://youtu.be/HIPiZk2eoHE?si=9kDeXVT8lowUGa7C[/URL]
I always get the Penthouse Suite.
No noise and a great view.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2989308]I think there will be a lot less noise if you get a Nutibara room that looks out on the back side of the hotel.[/QUOTE]
Greetings all,
I am planing my next trip to Medellin since before the pandemic, I usually stayed at Medellin Plaza (La Mansion / El Castillo) because I loved being with other people who were into the same hobby, also, I don't have personal friends who are into the hobby so I always travel single, and it was a good place to meet other guys who would go out into the wilderness with you.
Anyway, since I travel alone and now I have no other place were I can join a hunting pack, how do you guys would approach my situation?
Also, do you guys know of a company that it's taking the mansion's place in the market? Is there somewere similar?
You help would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2989533]Greetings all,
I am planing my next trip to Medellin since before the pandemic, I usually stayed at Medellin Plaza (La Mansion / El Castillo) because I loved being with other people who were into the same hobby, also, I don't have personal friends who are into the hobby so I always travel single, and it was a good place to meet other guys who would go out into the wilderness with you.
Anyway, since I travel alone and now I have no other place were I can join a hunting pack, how do you guys would approach my situation?
Also, do you guys know of a company that it's taking the mansion's place in the market? Is there somewere similar?
You help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]One reasonable alternative would be to stay at the San Peter. It is in Laureles so if you can't speak any Spanish you might be reluctant to venture out of Poblado. There is a bar on the registration floor and I'm sure you would meet a lot of like minded individuals there.
Anyone up for La isla anywhere this weekend?
[QUOTE=Villainy;2989554]One reasonable alternative would be to stay at the San Peter.[/QUOTE]San Peter Suites is ok but be prepared for all the street noise and music blasting from La 70. You can even hear it from the upper floors. Also it is only a stones throw away from the Exito which is convenient. Lot of chicas work out of the La 70 area in Laureles. It's a party strip with lots of bars, clubs, restaurants and shops. You can also catch a Chiva Rumba there for a few hours of fun with the locals. A metro station is not that far away.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2989554]One reasonable alternative would be to stay at the San Peter. It is in Laureles so if you can't speak any Spanish you might be reluctant to venture out of Poblado. There is a bar on the registration floor and I'm sure you would meet a lot of like minded individuals there.[/QUOTE]I concur on San Peter; the small bar downstairs is mostly mongers, and some girls hang there too (not many, but some do). In Poblado there are a number of hotels that are all mongers too, but nothing like the old Hotel M or with a lobby gathering of guys like that. There is a new place in Laureles called CH Lofts that is all AirBnb rentals, also has a cool glass-floor rooftop restaurant, and they recently opened a basement bar / club that may or may not be a gathering place. But I haven't been there yet (plan to go next week to check it out). It, however, shows some promise. But honestly, nothing like the old Hotel M seems to have appeared yet, and it definitely shows a big opportunity for an entrepreneurial soul.
[QUOTE=Stevio;2989083]Do you know of any other chicas that do porn. It's on my bucket list to hook up with a porn star. I'll be in medellin next month. TIA.[/QUOTE]There are many girls that do regular web cam work and only fans and some have quite big followings. Traditional 'porn' is not as big a market as live-video feeds and only fans are now. I've become quite familiar with this industry recently as one of my regular hookups is one with a big following (literally have had dudes recognize her from advertising or from online at restaurants in Poblado). She's also has had online customers who've taken trips down just to see her in person. But traditional 'porn star', I'm not sure that really exists as much any more.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2989683]But traditional 'porn star', I'm not sure that really exists as much any more.[/QUOTE]Not since everyone has access to the equipment (webcams or cell phone cams) and distribution (internet) these days. Amateur, homemade, and do it yourself porn has taken over.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2989533]Greetings all,
I usually stayed at Medellin Plaza (La Mansion / El Castillo) because I loved being with other people who were into the same hobby, also, I don't have personal friends who are into the hobby so I always travel single, and it was a good place to meet other guys who would go out into the wilderness with you.
Anyway, since I travel alone and now I have no other place were I can join a hunting pack, how do you guys would approach my situation?
.[/QUOTE]If you go to and around Parque Lleras, the majority of gringos hanging out around there are probably mongers. Shouldn't be hard to go to a sports bar or any place where you see people drinking and meet other mongers.
I think there is still a meet me in (insert location here) thread. You can probably enlist some road dogs in there. Another option is the New Life waiting rooms. They are always full of gringo punters, often in pack formation. New Life of course offers the further benefit of available women. If you prefer to focus on the punters, you can buy a drink and hang out with them until you have your fill or join up with them to check out other venues.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2989533]Greetings all,
I am planing my next trip to Medellin since before the pandemic, I usually stayed at Medellin Plaza (La Mansion / El Castillo) because I loved being with other people who were into the same hobby, also, I don't have personal friends who are into the hobby so I always travel single, and it was a good place to meet other guys who would go out into the wilderness with you.
Anyway, since I travel alone and now I have no other place were I can join a hunting pack, how do you guys would approach my situation?
Also, do you guys know of a company that it's taking the mansion's place in the market? Is there somewere similar?
You help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2989533]Anyway, since I travel alone and now I have no other place were I can join a hunting pack, how do you guys would approach my situation?.[/QUOTE]You don't need to travel with a pack, especially with people that you don't even know. Solo travel is great and you get to do what you want and go to wherever you want to. Explore different places to get an authentic Colombian experience. Get out of where all the tourists and Gringos hang out or you will be doing what everyone else is doing, the same old thing.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2989554]One reasonable alternative would be to stay at the San Peter. It is in Laureles so if you can't speak any Spanish you might be reluctant to venture out of Poblado. There is a bar on the registration floor and I'm sure you would meet a lot of like minded individuals there.[/QUOTE]The name of the bar is Medellin Sports Bar, there are working girls that pass through there from time to time, they hang out for a while and then they head to Parque Lleras, there are two very hot waitresses that work there but not sure if they are in play. I stay down the street from there and go there regularly, their burgers are good too. Bring a sweater or jacket as it is always freezing cold in there.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2989682]I concur on San Peter; the small bar downstairs is mostly mongers, and some girls hang there too (not many, but some do). In Poblado there are a number of hotels that are all mongers too, but nothing like the old Hotel M or with a lobby gathering of guys like that. There is a new place in Laureles called CH Lofts that is all AirBnb rentals, also has a cool glass-floor rooftop restaurant, and they recently opened a basement bar / club that may or may not be a gathering place. But I haven't been there yet (plan to go next week to check it out). It, however, shows some promise. But honestly, nothing like the old Hotel M seems to have appeared yet, and it definitely shows a big opportunity for an entrepreneurial soul.[/QUOTE]First of all, thanks to everyone for answering, great usefull comments.
I do speak spanish, guys at La Mansion would love to go out with me to help them out translating.
I've checked San Peter at [URL]Expedia.com[/URL] and it looks fine, prices are ok, not too flashy, anyway, one more question, do you guys know if San Peter is visitor friendly? It's a deal breaker for me if its not.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2989963]First of all, thanks to everyone for answering, great usefull comments.
I do speak spanish, guys at La Mansion would love to go out with me to help them out translating.
I've checked San Peter at [URL]Expedia.com[/URL] and it looks fine, prices are ok, not too flashy, anyway, one more question, do you guys know if San Peter is visitor friendly? It's a deal breaker for me if its not.[/QUOTE]Yes, San Peter is very guests friendly. I have stayed there every year since 2019. Just make sure your guest has a valid Colombian ID or passport. I brought a guest there one time and she only had a Venezuelan ID, and they would not accept that.
Hear me out! LOL I know that in Medellin the mayor said that sex tourists are not welcome. Does that include legal brothels? What about freelance prostitutes that are 18+? Is there anywhere that info is available to what is accepted?
[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2989966]Yes, San Peter is very guests friendly. I have stayed there every year since 2019. Just make sure your guest has a valid Colombian ID or passport. I brought a guest there one time and she only had a Venezuelan ID, and they would not accept that.[/QUOTE]A few footnotes to the recent references to the San Peter Apartments (and its first floor Medellin Sports Bar) as a partial replacement for the sadly departed Mansion in Poblado.
As many have commented over the years on this thread (but not mentioned in the recent posts), the one big knock on the San Peter as a place to bed down is the noise level in the apartments from the discos on Carrera 70 (the La Setenta entertainment strip) below, causing many mongers to move out and seek shelter elsewhere, despite the girl-friendly service, good security, and nice location.
As others have noted, the sports bar is small, bordering on the miniscule. Last year, Joe (the owner) was promoting it as somewhat of a Mansion bar-style pick-up joint, with Ladies Night on Fridays and promotional events such as wet tee-shirt contests.
However, since I've been back here in January, he's dropped all such events and seems to be operating the place just as a combo sports bar and one-table casino (blackjack or Texas Holdem most every night).
Many evenings one will still find a few chicas hanging out at the bar, but at most only two to four--so its no longer all that fruitful as a Mansion-replacement, mongering venue (if it ever was).
In respect to getting Venezuelan chicas past reception, they do accept Venezuelan passports even if their dates of validity have expired.
I'm glad, I just come back from Medellin after 2 full weeks fucking girls bareback! I fucked 12 girls, all bareback! Only 1 accepted to fuck with me bareback on the second meeting!
I met only 2 girls from Facebook, 2 from Tinder, 2 from 2 casas Purple Elixir and Ellas Erotic, and 3 nice Venezolana girls who work in the street near Parque Berrio, 1 pornstar and 1 girl who is camgirl on chaturbate!
I changed many times of hotel because it's really not easy sometimes to change girl everyday in the hotels! So I went to Hotel Nutibara, Hotel Dorado, Hampton by Hilton, Hotel Dix. Some hotels accept you bring a different girl everyday and some hotels want the same girl for all your stay in the hotel! This is a fucking big problem in Colombia and it's not funny to change hotel everyday!
In Thailand Pattaya / Bangkok they don't care you bring 1 or 10 girls in the same day in your room!
I went to Santa Marta with 1 of my sexy girls from Facebook! It was really nice! Girls accept everything with me because I'm nice, good looking like they say, and of course generous. I think I pay them little bit more than the other customers, and I like buy them some little gifts like clothes, perfums. They enjoy being with me.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2990018]I'm glad, I just come back from Medellin after 2 full weeks fucking girls bareback! I fucked 12 girls, all bareback! Only 1 accepted to fuck with me bareback on the second meeting!
I met only 2 girls from Facebook, 2 from Tinder, 2 from 2 casas Purple Elixir and Ellas Erotic, and 3 nice Venezolana girls who work in the street near Parque Berrio, 1 pornstar and 1 girl who is camgirl on chaturbate!
I changed many times of hotel because it's really not easy sometimes to change girl everyday in the hotels! So I went to Hotel Nutibara, Hotel Dorado, Hampton by Hilton, Hotel Dix. Some hotels accept you bring a different girl everyday and some hotels want the same girl for all your stay in the hotel! This is a fucking big problem in Colombia and it's not funny to change hotel everyday!
In Thailand Pattaya / Bangkok they don't care you bring 1 or 10 girls in the same day in your room!
I went to Santa Marta with 1 of my sexy girls from Facebook! It was really nice! Girls accept everything with me because I'm nice, good looking like they say, and of course generous. I think I pay them little bit more than the other customers, and I like buy them some little gifts like clothes, perfums. They enjoy being with me.[/QUOTE]Any links, names, descriptions, ages, rates, or any crucial information that could be included in such reports so that others can use this information or is this just an embellishment for your personal gradification?
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2989963]First of all, thanks to everyone for answering, great usefull comments.
I do speak spanish, guys at La Mansion would love to go out with me to help them out translating.
I've checked San Peter at [URL]Expedia.com[/URL] and it looks fine, prices are ok, not too flashy, anyway, one more question, do you guys know if San Peter is visitor friendly? It's a deal breaker for me if its not.[/QUOTE]Yes it is girl friendly. Make sure they have a cedula original. No pictures are allowed. If you choose to pay on site I was made to pay in cash no credit card. I do not know if that is true now. The streets around there are loud at night.
Can anyone suggest a place to stay near parque berrio which is Chica friendly and similar or better then Hotel nutribara?
A buddy and I spent three days in Medellin entertaining Facebook girls in the afternoon and pulling from Lleras at night. The apartment was just a block off the park, convenient but also very noisy. After picking up snacks and libations, we'd warm the girls up in the hot tub, which was on a private patio, then bring them inside for banging. No-rush, girlfriend experience and BBBJ was agreed ahead of time (we both speak Spanish), which was not usually a problem.
A building security guard photographed their IDs, and we kept everything locked up in the safes, plus there being two of us it felt fairly secure. Twice I pulled a pair of girls from Lleras, which was a treat. A day trip to the city center turned up lots of girls (and trans) but none good looking enough to bring home.
We paid 250 k or 300 k. Some wanted more but we didn't go with them. We were confident of the price and girls generally accepted it without hesitation.
Fun trip. Medellin is great.
[QUOTE=VW1936;2989985]Hear me out! LOL I know that in Medellin the mayor said that sex tourists are not welcome. Does that include legal brothels? What about freelance prostitutes that are 18+? Is there anywhere that info is available to what is accepted?[/QUOTE]Sex tourism is about guys coming to have sex for money. And if that description fits then you are lumped together with child molesters and everything.
Sure, some aspects of it are legal but they don't want people coming to the city or country for that reason. And partly they want the sex business to be invisible, and not have foreign publicity, etc.
I'll be in town late Saturday through Tuesday night. Anyone else going to be around and want to pal around?
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2989533]Greetings all,
I am planing my next trip to Medellin since before the pandemic, I usually stayed at Medellin Plaza (La Mansion / El Castillo) because I loved being with other people who were into the same hobby, also, I don't have personal friends who are into the hobby so I always travel single, and it was a good place to meet other guys who would go out into the wilderness with you.
Anyway, since I travel alone and now I have no other place were I can join a hunting pack, how do you guys would approach my situation?
Also, do you guys know of a company that it's taking the mansion's place in the market? Is there somewere similar?
You help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Miss that place as well. Planning a trip next month and hopefully find some similar options by the.
I know Hotel Nutibara is old and not the best hotel we like to stay in Medellin but if you like mongering in El Centro Parque Berrio, I think it's the best hotel! You can bring your girls without any problem during the day. And in the evening, the guy from the reception just ask the ID of the girl and let you go your room without any problem. I was there 4 nights and I din't get any problem. The breakfast is not the best but is OK! I paid only 31 Euros / night. And for the room, I suggest you to ask the room 811. It's the best room of the hotel.
[QUOTE=Ullo200;2990162]Can anyone suggest a place to stay near parque berrio which is Chica friendly and similar or better then Hotel nutribara?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2989735]You don't need to travel with a pack, especially with people that you don't even know. Solo travel is great and you get to do what you want and go to wherever you want to. Explore different places to get an authentic Colombian experience. Get out of where all the tourists and Gringos hang out or you will be doing what everyone else is doing, the same old thing.[/QUOTE]Words to live by.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2990187]Sure, some aspects of it are legal but they don't want people coming to the city or country for that reason. And partly they want the sex business to be invisible, and not have foreign publicity, etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2990187]Sure, some aspects of it are legal but they don't want people coming to the city or country for that reason. And partly they want the sex business to be invisible, and not have foreign publicity, etc.[/QUOTE]The biggest issue is that people would be more okay with it if the general profile of those travelers wasn't so tainted. While many mongers are quiet and do their business in a fair, discreet way, there is a very sizable portion that does not. Ignoring the obvious pedophiles and others who are actively trying to engage in criminal activities, mongering also brings a certain breed of men to sex-friendly areas. You get a lot of bros coming in packs to be loud, boisterous, and disrespectful to the women and locals. Drunk, party bro attitudes tend to lead to more fights and general bad behavior. You get a lot of old-heads who exclusively push the line of legality by hunting for 18-year-olds, which is generally problematic since it incentives underage trafficking in the community. Overall, it's kind of a race to the bottom if you don't put restrictions in place. In my many years of doing this, even with restrictions, I've never had a problem mongering since I, and most mongers, are/am the ideal traveler for government; a gringo who peacefully comes to inject (hehe) money into their economy.
Unless a country is willing to go all in and accept that kind of profile and create boisterous zones, or even cities, where the community looks the other way (for example, Bangkok / Pattaya), it will always be a fight to keep mongers in check. Hispanic countries, in particular, due to religion will never be so open to just allow out and open acceptance of the sex trade.
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First time in Medellin. Been to South America though.
Have two objectives, find like two girls that I can call whenever to be with me for a few days or hours, join me clubbing and going out.
I'd like to line them up before getting there, what's the best way to do it?
Any of you ever had a foursome? Like 3-4+ girls at once? Any help on that would be great.
Staying in el Poblado, will be there next month.
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Okay so first time in Medellin, first time in Colombia!
Staying in El Poblado. Reached out to a bunch of massage places on Whatsapp (Google Maps Websites wa_me links).
Des Spa - 370,000 / HR.
Happy Spa - 380,000/ HR + extras.
Loutron - 550,000/ HR starting.
All for B2 B. Are these prices negotiable?
These prices seem very high compared to what I've been reading. I was expecting 200 k / session in El Poblado and $100 k / session in Bolado. What am I missing?
[QUOTE=CTGucci;2990579]Any of you ever had a foursome? Like 3-4+ girls at once? Any help on that would be great.[/QUOTE]This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
Also, It's obvious by your questioning that you don't read this forum or do any research of your own. Try doing that and I'm sure that you will answer some of your own questions. You need to learn more about Medellin.
I'm not sure where to start looking on fb or X and prefer not to pay for seeking. Looking for help to at least find girls before arriving so I have options.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2990750]This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
Also, It's obvious by your questioning that you don't read this forum or do any research of your own. Try doing that and I'm sure that you will answer some of your own questions. You need to learn more about Medellin.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MehediKhan;2990681]Okay so first time in Medellin, first time in Colombia!
Staying in El Poblado. Reached out to a bunch of massage places on Whatsapp (Google Maps Websites wa_me links).
Des Spa - 370,000 / HR.
Happy Spa - 380,000/ HR + extras.
Loutron - 550,000/ HR starting.
All for B2 B. Are these prices negotiable?
These prices seem very high compared to what I've been reading. I was expecting 200 k / session in El Poblado and $100 k / session in Bolado. What am I missing?[/QUOTE]You are missing reality. The girls are sharks and you are a lamb to your slaughter. They will laugh at you if you suggest / offer 200 K while in El Poblado. They are looking for the fools with money, that's all. And then they try to upsell in your room and try to make all the rules. If you try to negotiate the price, then they cut back on the time with you. They all try to take anything they can from your hotel room, starting with the mini bar drinks, which are theirs by their reasoning. And then they go into your bathroom and steal from your shaving kit, come back in the room and say they started their period and you have to pay them anyway for their time with you.
It's been a minute since I dropped a large review. I have been here a couple months plowing away and I figure it is time to forge ahead and get this forum back on track to reviews!
Mega review.
Valeria 160 K + 50 K oral natural.
[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/me-llamo-carolina-escort-de-lujo-y-muy-complaciente/25360886/[/URL]
Name: Valeria.
Age: 27.
Location: Laurlres.
Tits: Fake Cs.
Hygiene: Cigarette breath.
Face 5/10.
Body 6/10.
Attitude 7/10.
Oral 7/10.
Sexual Performance 4/10.
Kiss Yes DFK.
Reccomend Ehh.
Heavy traffic into Laurrles but I arrive at the casa. It was raining and I get into the apartment. I ring the bell a friend of the girl answers the door and enter into a dimly light sort of dingy apartment that was a house trying to look like a commercial space. It has a branded Pilsen beer fridge that has no beer in it besides a half eaten container of frisbys. I wait about 5 minutes while another guy was sitting in the corner on a stool that looked like it was from the 90's. Valeria finally comes and looks about 20 lbs overweight however, because I just came from a bait and switch in Las Palmas. I give her the cash and it turns out she is actually a really good kisser. We make out some more and then I suck on her fake tits. I'm getting hard and she wipes me down quick and gives a good, sloppy suck. Puts the rubber on and hops on top. It was sort of mechiancila but her kissing made it still into it. I finished in the rubber. After she gave me a pretty good massage thought but I knew I wouldn't be repeating.
Elle's erotic.
[URL]https://ellaserotic.com/prepago/lucia/[/URL]
Lucia 160 mil HR + 50 mil oral natural.
Name Lucia.
Age 20.
Location LOS Colores.
Tits Perky.
Body Type Thin.
Face 6. 9/10.
Body 7/10.
Attitude 10/10.
Oral 9/10.
Sexual Performance 9/10.
Kiss Yes Very Passionate GFE DFK.
Reccomend Yes.
I've been to this casa before I think at a different location but I don't mind going here cause the location is near. It's in Laurles / colores right next to a cherrys lingere shop. I text them before I arrive so that when I ring the bell they are prepared and I don't have to wait that long on the street. I arrive right before rush hour and head up the stairs. There are about 6 or 7 rooms in total each on opposite sides of the floor and some chicas green room in the back where you can hear all the girls congregating. This place really insiste on making an appointment with a girl before hand so there isn't any big line up or showing. It feels more professional here as an older women wearing a aqua blue cleaning uniform directs me to a room in the back. I wait what feels like an eternity (5 minutes but might as well be till 2026 when you are trying to get your rock off, time moves like a sloth dipped in molasses) FINALLY Lucia arrives and is bubbly as fuck. She has braces, a lot more freckles and birth marks on her face as well as tattoos. Yes her photos looks amazing online but you won't be disappointed in person, just slightly humbled. But don't worry her performance more then makes up for her photos. She kisses me, a lot, collects the cash then walks out of the room for a minute. She comes back with all her cleaning accessories and is wearing a school uniform with a little tie collar attachment. We start making out more and have a lot of passion. She loves the sound of my Spanish and I notice her accent and ask her if she is Vnz. She is. I guess the city she is from and was more impressed. She takes my clothes off down to my boxers and I'm grinding my hard on into her can feel the heat.
And wetness from her 20 yo pussy and can tell this is going to be a crazy ride. I squeeze and suck her tits and she really gets off and is wanting more. I almost want to put it in but I'm dying to know.
What her mouth feels like. She flips over, quickly wipe my cock and does the slow lick from the bottom of the shaft all the way up to the tip. She keeps licking and sucking and then goes to town on my balls. I stand up and make her suck me looking and her and while I do, she knows I see in the mirror on the bed and sees me looking. She starts to shake her ass while sucking me and I can see her pussy lips jiggling. The site of her lips make me want to ram it into her but not before I feel throat her till she gags on it. We strap up and I go into her tight pussy with no lube and it's feels like Lava. We try in all positions and when I'm on top the second time she starts begging for my cum. She tells me.
She wants it all over her and when I go to bust I rip off the rubber and jerk it everywhere. She grabs it as well and stokes it while rubbing the cum on her body like lotion. We clean off and kick it. I get her personal info and we dig the vibe. She asked later if I wanted a round two but I didn't have the energy. Definitely high on the list, she is a true nympo.
Elle exotics.
[URL]https://ellaserotic.com/prepago/devora/[/URL]
Devora.
160 k + 50 k oral naturale.
Face 7/10.
Location LOS Colres.
Body 8. 5/10 (massive tits).
Attitude 8/10.
Oral 7/10.
Sexual Performance 7/10.
Kiss Yes, but light Pecks.
Reccomend Yes.
The photos of this chick with her huge bolt on tits I just had to check her out for my self. These reviews happened a view weeks ago part between my other visit at Elle's but I'm putting it here as I remember it now. I arrive and Devora enters the room about a minute after. She is a 25 yo Vnz with more tattoos then her photos suggest. She also has a small see scar but you can't notice unless you look. Her body though is build to take a pounding! Her tits are really HUGE! And fun as well, fake but still feel very soft. Her ass, also a dream! We start I try a DFK but she does more pecks. She is into talking and getting to know more about me. Something I wasn't expecting, I figure she just wanted to go at it. She starts light touching with her finger tips and asks more questions etc. We start playing more and I get to devour her massive tits. I play suck and stoke as they get more and more errect. She really enjoys it as I also play with her innie pussy. She gets to stroking me and after a bit of cleaning she puts me in her mouth. It's smooth and as she bends over to suck I can see her sticking her thick ass out in the air. She lubes up and gets on top, it's actually tighter than I thought. I try to fuck her on top but this girl body is built for cuatro. I don't want to bust too quick but it just feels really good so I get her sideways and then ask her where to finish. She wants it all over her tits and her sexy face really shows how bad she wants it. It's those eyes begging for it. I make her suck me more and finish and 8 roper on her tits. We clean up, she gets more personal with me. I ask her why she does pecks and she says I get to.
Know better it can get better. Fair enough. Will repeat. Elle's has good talent here. They changed their WhatsApp so be sure to go to the site and get the update. Also their telegram has a good update of the roster.
Dulce 120 k + 80 k oral natural cum in mouth.
[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-dulce-maria-paisa-hermosa-lista-para-hacerte-feliz-quieres-probar/25711552/[/URL]
Age 22.
Location Estudio.
Face 6/10.
Body 6/10.
Attitude 9/10.
Oral 10/10.
Sexual Performance 9/10.
Kiss Yes DFK full * porn kiss.
Reccomend Yes, especially for a BJ.
I was looking for a girl that I could blast in the face or mouth and found dulce. The casa is located in estadio right next to energy in a white door. I made the mistake of going during game day, however it was still the afternoon so it wasn't full blown insanity yet. I arrive and walk up a couple flights of stairs. I get to the top and 90 lb dulce answrs the door. Her face isn't anything to write home about but her eyes are very seductive. This girl is absolutely a * and loves sex. The casa is like a series of rooms where girls work independently. I am taken all the way to the back room where there are several different beds, a round one, a big one, a huge couch, even a massage table. I shower inside the room which is a half door option with an electric heater for the hot water. We kiss very passionate and she lays back and spreads her legs. She wants her box munched which I was surprised at but I go ahead. This girl really likes it hard, she is into me putting fingers in and going to town on her clit. But I'm here for her to suck me off. Man, Dulce knows what she is doing and as soon as she starts I already want to nut. But I pause in between and make her take her time. I keep playing a lot with her pussy and she keeps sucking more and more. We 69 and she starts having Os and can't focus on my cock. Eventually I want to finish and with her hazel eyes she begs for me to cum in her mouth. I shoot a ton and she takes it alll. Like wow. She cleans up, We hang around more, she wants me to order rappi as she is hungry but I don't want to (I tell her it didn't work etc) eventually I get ready for another round and let her suck me again. She wants me to fuck her but I'm not feeling the rubbers they have there. She let me slap my cock on her clit and I'm pretty sure with the vibe she would have let me go raw if I gave more time and money. I decided against it and just went and jerked another load into her mouth while her head hung off the edge of the bed. If you want a paisa * you can thrown around this ones for you. P.S. She is a touch darker in person and has stubble in her pubs area.
Angy 150 k + 50 k oral naturale.
[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/angy-hermosa-flaca-hemosa-cuerpo-escultural-rica/25682601/[/URL]
Age 23.
Location Laurlres.
Face 7/10.
Body 8/10.
Attitude 9/10.
Oral 7/10.
Sexual Performance 9/10.
Kiss Yes DFK.
Recommend Yes.
I have been wanting to see this chick for a while but the reality is she rarely answers and when she does she gets booked up quick. I later find out when I see her she is in school and learning to be a chef which is why she isn't really a pro, despite having a pros body. The taxi arrives into a motel micro apartment complex and I'm told to pay 10 K to a guy that watches the apt etc. No worries. I head all the way upstairs and a metal door is open and out pops the paisa princess. She is very tiny but big fake tits and a glorious smile. The room is super tiny, and I see its pack with nic nac personal effects. It's her friends that she borrows to work in from time to time. I get the sense she smokes but she was just a bit tired. She admires my white skin but I tell her she is white as well. I give her the money and she asks me to wash my hands. I'm cool and I'm chewing gum and offer her some. She likes it and we start smooching. Some lip sucking and biting I play with her tits that are a bit hard but still feel nice. She takes my clothes off and starts kissing all on my body. She does the quick wipe down and goes to town on my cock. She is really into ball play and it feels awesome.
Not too much suction and very smooth. She lubes up her pussy but still keeps sucking, she encourages me to play with her while she deep throats. We start going at it, she puts on the rubber a bit too hard as it snaps in place and she apologizes. I start fucking her on the edge of the bed and I can see her tits boucning and I thrust deeper.
The vibes are really getting intense. She directs my hands to her throat and makes me choke her and asks to go deeper and deeper. We get on all 4's and she loves the hair pulling. Her long Pochanontas hair is fun to wrap up and grab from the roots her hair back. I can see her glouriuus.
Ass taking a pounding and I am really surprised at how it's really and soo firm! I of course slap it and do the rub of it after which she enjoys tremendously. I turn her back around and she is half way off the bed using the pillows to prop her up and she starts begging for the Leche. I gladly pull out and shoot everywhere which is happily embraces. We clean up and afterwards she is being sweet lying on top of me. I get more info and she was suppose to live in EU but plans changed. I get more info and eventually her other number. We make arrangements to see each other again and I got her to hang out at my place for a second time. Much longer, Gave her only.
A little bit more but the vibes were great and she even cooked for me.
Ailen (formerly Tania) 150 k + 70 oral natural.
Erotic massage.
[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/tania3006430291[/URL]
Age 28.
Location Belen La Mota.
Face 6. 5/10.
Body 7/10.
Attitude 10/10.
Oral 10/10.
Sexual Performance 9/10 (massage).
Kiss Yes but takes time to get DFK.
Recommend Yes.
I was really in the mood for a pro massage. I had been to a couple other places but found this provider off the beaten path. Her apartment is in belen la mota which means you got to go thru the hood to get there. I arrive and go up a couple flights of stairs. Sure enough is a very cute red girl with pale skin and a big smile. She is about 5 3 wearing neon green spandex onesie that had web hole cut outs everywhere. , with those big stretched earrings in her ear. I enter and the room has all types of green laser lights and disco type vibes. The music is soft Relaxing and I can tell she takes it serious. I give her the money, get undressed and lay flat on the bed. She has all types of lotions and oils that she applies as she starts the massage. She gets very deep and has a lot of knowledge to know where to give the massage. She hits every angle on my body and does what feels like 45 minutes on my back and legs before the flip even comes. She has every single massage gadget known to man. The head massager the powered massager even some rolling type. She even walks on your back the right way. Finally she teases my balls while I'm on my back and kisses the back of my neck. She puts oil on and rubs her body with mine. I'm getting harder and really excited for the flip. She ask me to turn over and asks me if I like it etc. Of course I do! She rubs my front but then positions herself on top of me with her firm ass facing me. She rubs it in a way so I can see her super innie pussy rubbing the shaft of my cock. She does this what feels like a long time, long enough for me to get the visual of her riding me. The feeling is outstanding. Finally she gets into position and looks at me with those big eyes she has and slowly starts to suck me. I swear it feels like she is toothless and her mouth is wrapped silk. She knows the perfect rhythm, angles, suction and it is just really smooth. I wanted to finish right away but she knew how to help me hold it. She came up to lay next to me and stroke it and she was being more generous with her kisses. More tounge and lip sucking. I let her know I wanted to finish on her tits but she is still laying in her side next to me. She strokes more and more and as I'm about to pop she rushes to let her perky A cups get doused in a thick 8 roper of the finest custard. I was her last customer and went to take a shower. She washed up and while I was bathing a cat came into the bathroom. Haha. She got me some water and put on her regular clothes to leave for the night. She is very cute even in girl next door outfits. I wish I had seen her sooner and more often on my trip. I talked to her recently and she took my advice on having a more accessible area and is currently also in Envigado.
Angel.
160 k + 50 K oral natural.
Purple elixar.
[URL]https://elixirpurpura.com/o_models/angel/[/URL]
Age 19.
Location Belen.
Face 9/10.
Body 8/10 (if you like model type).
Attitude 9/10.
Oral 7/10.
Sexual Performance 7/10.
Kiss Yes.
Recommend Yes.
I had seen Angel before and we clicked but her being a pot head makes her lazy to answer her personal number. I had to make an appointment at purple elixar as it seems this chick practically lives there. I arrive and she smiles and jumps almost excited to see me and gives me a high five into a hug and a smooch as she greets me. She really should be doing runway with her build but her tattoos make her a tough sell. She also does not take the best professional photos so who knows if she will peruse it. We are very comfortable with each other and she forgets to collect the money first after we are already making out, there is a knock and she has to go attend to make sure I paid ha. She comes back and her Hershey kiss nips are super errect. She grabs at me to get my clothes off and this time doesn't even bother to wipe me off and takes me straight into her mouth. For a 19 yo she actually has great BJ skills. I ask her if she likes oral to her and with her actually being smooth down there (she usually has 5 day stubble) she tells me she loves it. I do lots of tricks and clit sucking until I figure out what makes her go to an O. She was holding back a bit but finally I saw the blood rush to her face as she started to jerk her paper thin hips and let out a large O. We hadn't boned yet and she already needed a break and took puffs of her cotton candy flavored vape. She took deeps breaths for a couple minutes as I let my finger tips slowly run around her body. We DFK more and then I ask her if she wants me to fuck her. She says in English pleeaasseee fuck me. (It's cute I been giving her English lessons) I get her sideways doggy and I honelsyy didn't last that long. With her for some reason I always nut in the rubber. I'the like to shoot it on her but oh well, next time. I have all her info and reality is she is going to skip town soon so if you want a leggy super model thin tall type paisa, you better move quick.
Jazmin 170 K + 50 k oral natural.
The Garden.
Age 22.
Location Las Palmas /.
Face 5/10.
Body 6/10 (long nips).
Attitude 6/10.
Oral 6/10.
Sexual Performance 4/10.
Kiss peaks.
Recommend no.
I have been meaning to try out The Garden as the videos and the views seem chill. Granted it's not in the best area so it's best to take a taxi directly to the front door, message them and tell them to be ready by the door to let you in when you ring the bell. When I go to casa like this I always feel a rush and excitement of adrenaline thinking of the lengths we go to get quality pussy for bargin prices. I arrive very late like 8:30 and my choices were only Jazmin or Jade. I get offered water or beer which is nice. Originally I wanted Jade but if you message them they will send you off catalog photos and I saw that Jade is full sleeve covered in tattoos. Not really my thing so I chose Jazmin. I arrive and Jazmin is 5 5 cinnamon Venezuelan with Full be cups with Grape like nipples. She has nice thigh gap and a smooth innie pussy. She tells me that Jade just got a customer and that at this late at night I am actually the first customer she had. Haha her face, to be honest isn't anything to write home about. She's not ugly but has kind of a shonze that's a bit pointy. The place is winding down and it's dead quiet, like I'm in an after hours of a resturant that closed. We get into the room, I give her the cash and she asks me.
What I like and don't like. She has a very innocent sexy laced white bra and panties that contrast well with her darker skin tones. I'm in the first room on the left as you enter the stairs, it's nice and spacious but I'm trying to figure out the lighting. I hate these super bright harsh 1000 w bulbs that this entire country has and I see a light bar with warm light. I get it right and finally lay down. I already down to my boxers when she returns. She kiss but it's just peaks and she isn't into DFK. I squeeze her tits and lick them a bit and they are actually quite perky. She wants to talk for a bit in between and I knew ebohgh about her that it was like a mini speed date. She was fascinated I could peg the obscure cities in venezuela and how I though Vnz arepas were much better then colombian ones. We get to the BJ and after a long slow double cleaning with the wipes she sucks me. I can tell she isn't that into it or has the experience and her hand is doing that two finger jerk and she isn't really commanding it. She gets some lube and hops on top. She has a little bit of rhythm but not getting that full experience. We switch to a couple and I nail her in doggy and it's nice seeing her little compact ass while I thrust deep. I get her back on her feet and try and fuck her off the edge of the bed but she isn't as flexible, despite having long legs. I finish with a HJ from her. It was ok but after I cleaned up I asked her while she waits all day for 1 client who the most popular was. She says it was Jade and Amatista. I knew in the back of my mind who to book next. I didn't bother with the shower as It was late and I prefer to get out of that area and shower at home. When I left the casa asked me WhatsApp a rating and performance and then I told them the truth but that I wanted an appoint with Amatista the next day.
Amatista 170 K + No Oral Naturale.
The Garden.
Face 7/10.
Body 8/10.
Attitude 6/10.
Oral 3/10 (no natural offered).
Sexual Performance 7/10.
Kiss pecks.
Recommend maybe just to try it.
I wasn't joking when I said the next day I was down to go see her. I made arrangement to be there at 12 but I had an appointment and traffic that made it run over so I was a bit late. The casa was not happy but I said I would pay the full hour even if I didn't use it cause I know how they get booked. I wanted Amastia because she's an 18 yo Lolita who's always booked and her body and face in photos looked great. I arrive and she greets me at the door in a silk robe. Offers me a water or beer, I take the beer. I was sure it was her but it was, the photos aren't a bait and switch but they leave out a lot. Like her crooked teeth and big Beauty mole on her face. Don't get me wrong, she is still a smoke show but I realize that The Garden marketing department is outstanding. We get into the room which is across the hall from where I was last night with Jazmine and as I enter I see a super skinny cute dirty blond girl with blue eyes. She is the girl sussnae I saw on their telegrams. I feel like SHE is the one I should have seen! It was her first day too! Oh well. I get into the room with Amastia and she disrobes. She has super super tight skin with almost stomach muscles showing. Her tits, while flat are still that stand up perky type you only see from a girl that age. Very nice nips too. We kiss a bit, do some exploring and this girl I find out does not do oral natural. However she sucks me with the rubber on but has NO problem licking and sucking my bare balls. We get into a couple positions and she knows how to move. Very very tight pussy and I get her on the edge of the bed with her legs in the air so I can see how deep it goes. She takes cock great for a girl her size. Does all the girations and rotations. I don't have much time so I shoot a load into the latex and she cleans me up. She says I can take a shower and brings me up stairs. The view from.
There is spectacular, I know she is booked so I'm left to my own devices and take a nice long slow hot shower in the upstairs maze like shower. Seriously the cost of this shower was insane cause it was built with a walk around wall and could house multiple people with a little area just to freshen up and chill. I get dressed and take some videos of the view and I really want to come back to the jacuzzi for the package deal they have with the girls. As I'm leaving I see sussane and ask about her. She finished up and I have my eye on her next. Over all I think that The Garden is a much better option compared other classic casas in the same price range like Fantasia Energia. Much better rooms and lighting for starters. Also they like to do a bingo with a live drawing where if you see someone during the week they assign you a number and if it's drawn live you get a free session with a chica. This might be my new favorite casa.
Violeta.
160 K + 50 K Oral Naturale.
Purple elixar.
Face 7/10.
Body 6/10 (if you like model type).
Attitude 6/10.
Oral 7/10.
Sexual Performance 6/10.
Kiss some light kiss.
Recommend One time Use.
It was a rainy Sunday and I wanted to go out and it seemed only a couple girls were working. I decided on Violeta. I like the casa so I figure it should be ok. I arrive and we get assigned a room on the first floor, Big mistake. The first floor room is trash as the door is all fucked up and won't lock properly. You can also hear other girls and smell the food from next door. The bathroom is also directly outside so someone can always use it and you generally don't have privacy. I get there and Violeta is a bit darker than her photos but has cute as a button face with a nice shaped booty and full be tits. She asks me if I been here before and I explain I have seen a few and she likes my accent. We get confit and she goes to my Johnson but she sees a black mark. Haha. I realize it's lint from the wash but she freaked out for a second. Next I see I had toothpaste on my chest from brushing and running fast. At that moment she made a choice (which I don't blame her) for me to shower throughly. I was laughing and explained I rushed out and I am hygenic but she was totally cool about it. We had a false start but the room was getting cold. I even pop a mint in and we start to make out. The Kissing pretty good and I grab her little cute button nose face and get more passionate. She inspects my cock again but doesn't bother with the wipes and gives a great BJ with lots of Saliva. I play with her pussy a bit and keep grabbing her tits. She straps on and reverse cowgirls and I can actually see her juicy ass. It's more plump than the photos let on. She knows how to ride, switches to the front froggy with her feet planted on my thighs. I can really watch it go in deep. We get into quattro and I'm slapping it a bit too hard for her, then then I ask if I can finish on her ass and she is cool with it. I pull out and jerk it and she wiggles her booty as I'm shooting my load, it ends up hitting her back a bit more and she laughs. We clean up and bounce. Ok session but the other talent in the house is more my speed.
Luciana.
200 mil.
Bait & switch.
Spa Santa agua.
Face 0/10.
Body 0/10 (if you like model type).
Attitude 0/10.
Oral 0/10.
Sexual Performance 0/10.
Kiss no.
Recommend No bait and switch.
I've seen this place host many many girls and messages. I arrive and am confused what door.
Is what. There are guys posted outside across the street that direct you in. I'm guessing this is the security etc.
I arrive and Tell them I am here for Luciana. I wait in the lobby and am texting with her saying she will come soon. They start presenting others though, like wtf. First a moo cow. No thanks, then another thick one, then finally a petite girl with HUGE the cup fake tities. I finally go talk to someone and say, what's going on? They tell me she is unavailable and I should just choose one that is close. No, I walked out. Later texting them they just to throw in my face the things I wanted and I am a waste of time?? THEY are the ones advertising with a face the girl and try to show someone else. Anyway part of me still wants see this chick but just be aware, spa Santa will try and bait you rather then be transparent.
Vane tinder free. Ish.
Just diner.
Name Vanessa.
Age 22.
Location Estudio.
Tits Nice be.
Body Type Thin with thick.
Face 8/10.
Body 8/10.
Attitude 4/10.
Oral 0/10.
Sexual Performance 0/10.
Kiss GFE DFK.
Reccomend no.
Ok this was a WERID chick. She was super cute in person the photos didn't do her justice. I made her FaceTime me to confirm it was her. She lives near estudio but her address looked like a mess. I sent a taxi to pick her up, she arrives looking like a smoke show with long jeans on and her tight stomach showing. She really was intrested in me cooking her dinner. She flaked the night before and I had a steak already on deck, it was salted for 24 hours and I decided to give her another shot for the next day. The steak came out great, we are having wine. But she is telling me she wants more liquor. We walk to the corner store and get a bottle of rum. We head back and she is making rum and cokes but making sure that in drinking. I still have my guard up and make sure there is nothing in my drink etc. We kiss and make out but then I see she is talking on multiple WhatsApp. I'm trying to smash but she is saying it's the first time we are seeing each other etc. She never asked for money so maybe she actually is a real chick etc. She has an iPhone but her phone doesn't connect to blue bubbles so it made me think it's secondary number. Later she said my camera phone was better and she wanted to take a selfie with it. I sent it to her etc. We made out more but something felt off. I told her it was pretty late and I'm sure her mom is worried. I sent her off. In the coming days she would disapear online and offline, try to make plans but something was off. I'm pretty sure she was trying to get inventory of my things (I keep it all hidden) and the photo of my phone was being sent to someone else to see my valuables. I remember always keeping my drink very far away and my security knew to not let anyone leave without me giving the ok.
Webcam chick.
Bumble 600 K bb todo la noche.
Name Webcam Chick.
Age 24.
Location Jardin.
Tits Nat Cs.
Body Type Thick.
Face 7/10.
Body 8/10.
Attitude 9/10.
Oral 9/10.
Sexual Performance 9/10.
Kiss GFE DFK deep.
Reccomend Yes.
This chick is super fun. I had seen her before and it has been a year or so since we last saw each other. She is fun, bubbly with just the right amount of crazy. Amazing kisser, firm body and a real giver. She doesn't like oral done to her but loves to rub her pussy consently. When giving head, when foreplay, when fucking, even when washing up in the shower she rubs and rubs.
I made a joke that she is Taking her work home with her by playing with herself. She loves for me to give her facials when she puts her glasses on, she even licked a bit of the cum off of it! Nasty one. She will retire soon but her English is improving and she says she's going to work at hotel or something.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2990858]You are missing reality. The girls are sharks and you are a lamb to your slaughter. They will laugh at you if you suggest / offer 200 K while in El Poblado. They are looking for the fools with money, that's all. And then they try to upsell in your room and try to make all the rules. If you try to negotiate the price, then they cut back on the time with you. They all try to take anything they can from your hotel room, starting with the mini bar drinks, which are theirs by their reasoning. And then they go into your bathroom and steal from your shaving kit, come back in the room and say they started their period and you have to pay them anyway for their time with you.[/QUOTE]That's why it's better to go to Botero / Veracruz church area in Centro and fuck the girls that start out at 40 k and 50 k COP. Plus there is nothing of yours to steal and definitely no minibar in the cheap 30 minute hotel rooms. And if you want to fuck another one after you can just go back downstairs and lick another one to fuck. Maybe have lunch or a drink at any number of surrounding restaurants then back to fuck agn.
Centro is way better than Poblado and a much better value for the money.
Gabacho.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2990947]It's been a minute since I dropped a large review. I have been here a couple months plowing away and I figure it is time to forge ahead and get this forum back on track to reviews!
[/QUOTE]Awesome review, appreciate it!
[QUOTE=CTGucci;2990847]I'm not sure where to start looking on fb or X and prefer not to pay for seeking. Looking for help to at least find girls before arriving so I have options.[/QUOTE]You to be careful when dealing with 2-3 girls at one time because you can't watch them all when you are occupied. If you want to have a threesome, 4 some or more some, I suggest that you rent a separate room other than your primary location. Don't bring anything of value and don't leave any drinks unattended. Make your own drinks if drinking. Make sure to vet the girls and the front desk hold the IDs or gets a copy. I hope that you have lots of fun but be careful. Read back a few pages in the forum for some suggestions. Also you can go to some Casas and request a threesome or 4 some. That maybe an option for you. Good Luck.
Thanks for getting everything back on track Blue. Great reviews and will be a huge resource when I visit next month.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2990947]It's been a minute since I dropped a large review. I have been here a couple months plowing away and I figure it is time to forge ahead and get this forum back on track to reviews!
Mega review...[/QUOTE]
Review recapping two trips I have made to Medellin in April 2024 and again in late January 2025. I am going again in April. For context, I am 30 middle eastern with 0 Spanish.
Airport arrival:
April 2024 airport immigration area had a bunch of anti sex tourism stuff plastered literally everywhere on the walls. It's pretty much gone now but there is a wall or so still showing warnings. Immigration was pretty simple both times but on the first trip the line moved extremely slowly before picking up. They speak English. I filled out check mig (online immigration form) but guys in line didn't and they didn't have issues. There is a gift shop near ticketing / bag drop called verano or something like that which sells Claro SIM cards for around 20 k and lasts 10 days. I read earlier that you need to go register the phone / sim at an official Claro store with your passport or else your phone would eventually get blacklisted but the gift shop worker told me I didn't have to. She wasn't lying. I went back on my 2nd trip using the same phone after not registering and the phone worked fine. Also the store was open at 3 am on the 2nd trip on a Wednesday / Thursday so looks like it's open 24 hours too. ATMs are around here as well. Open a Fidelity or Schwab checking account to get all ATM fees refunded. Make sure to decline the conversation rate when prompted on the screen. Outside the airport on the first floor, are official white taxis to take you where you need to go. They charged me 130 k late at night but I recall it being like 110 k on my first trip. While they are safe and official, we really should be taking the bus. For me personally there is something about putting all my trust into a taxi driver that I still don't like. I used Uber to get around everywhere else not the airport, get in the front seat so you look like a friend being picked up.
Housing:
I stayed in San Peter both times in Laureles. It is located on a busy street called la 70 which is a long street full of clubs and restaurants. Felt safe walking around. I stayed in room 302 both times, not by choice. This room sucks. Hot water doesn't work well at all, tiny bathroom, and the toilet on the 2nd trip had stains that bleach couldn't remove. They also require 300 k security deposit when not booked through airbnb which you get back as you leave which you can't spend except at the airport since you're literally leaving. Friendly and easy staff, 24/7. They ID chicas you bring back. Just have your room number when checking her in. For check-out, the chica just leaves and that's it, you don't have to tell them. I did walk them out though. Very easy food delivery to this location and ATM and pharmacy are very close by. Overall not bad but I'the try to avoid room 302. Hopefully not all units have poor hot water. 40-50 usd a night. I do like the apartment style layout.
Casas:
I only went to Centro casas. First trip I went to New Life, Club sexi de amigas and Massejes Aiff. My conclusion after my 2nd trip is that New Life is probably one of the best parts about visiting Medellin. It's easy to get to, just Uber to the address. Don't just type in "new life" though and type in the street name and number, it took me somewhere else initially. There is a light blue door to enter making it easy to locate. 70 k for 30 minutes and 120 k for an hour. Most girls offer BBBJ for reasonable tip, I was offered 30 k but never partook. I recall after my first trip that I actually didn't like the casa experience for a few reasons. I've since changed my mind. One is that it isn't exactly close by and can take up to 30-40 minutes to get to with daytime traffic. The girls on average are about a 6. They also have fucked other guys before you so they aren't as tight as a girl that hasn't fucked yet that day. But for the straightforward low price, avoiding of catfishes, and relative ease / safety I'the have to give casas and specifically new life a recommendation. I haven't explored too many other casas but I've been told new life is the best one in terms of quality. Club sexi has less girls but equal quality when I went. Aiff only had 2 girls when I went in April 2024 and I'the say it was a bust. I personally don't think I'll explore other centro casas but let me know if I'm missing out.
Spa / massages:
I mostly get massages back home so I obviously had to partake in this. I know this isn't everyones cup of tea. I really like this experience personally. I found official massage spots on miIo eroticos. Bendito spa, thao spa, samadi spa to name a few. On average the cost is 250 k for 60-90 minutes which isn't cheap but an equivalent experience at home would be $300. Something about a beautiful Colombian woman sliding all over you is really hot to me. I pretty much got one every morning I was here on both trips. The women on average are prettier. Most don't offer extras from my experience, at the places I went to.
Facebook girls:
I'm not sure how I feel about Facebook girls. I have a side FB account and I've gathered over 1000 chicas on there over the years. Lots of accounts are probably fairly inactive. Good amount of catfishes / inaccurate pics. Girls flakey as hell. Charging 400 k an hour which I obviously decline. Just not something you want to deal with on a 3-4 day trip where time is more limited than money. Feels like such a waste of time having to sift through chicas or worse just have one not show up, which happened. Even having some chicas scheduled a week prior to your arrival in Medellin doesn't entirely help cause they can still just flake on you and not respond. I felt more annoyed by this on my most recent trip. Most girls from my experience are also not available until night time. Despite all this, I was able to find decent girls with reasonable prices I guess.
Parque Lleras:
April 2024 had ID check to enter the park but this is now gone. Girls on average are prettier and younger looking than centro casa girls. I didn't partake my first trip but did my 2nd trip. Paid 500 k for 2 hours. A lot of girls declined this offer if I can recall. Most wanted 400 k an hour. I went around 1 AM so maybe later at night you can get better deals. On the plus side, you can see the girl first before committing so you get that benefit over a Facebook girl and she's not going to flake since you pull her in person. Late at night, it's still not a bad option I guess.
Other options I didn't do and can't speak of personally:
- I never went to centro to check out the street walkers.
- I never went to centro strip clubs or any strip club for that matter. While strip clubs are pricey I do see the added benefit of just seeing a bunch of women all in one place and feeling them out before committing. I would imagine the quality at centro strip clubs is about the same as centro casas though.
- I never went to non-centro casas like Loutron or Energy.
- I never called up any "pros" off a website.
- I never used a dating app.
- I never tried to pick up 'regular' girls.
To close I have a few questions.
Does anyone have any housing recommendations? I saw someone mentioned CH Lofts a few pages back. Looks promising, has a balcony, jacuzzi, and 24/7 front desk for $80 a night. I messaged them and they said after 8 pm it costs 60 k to bring a guest up. Not bad. If anyone has tried this place could you please share your experience? Any other places you guys liked? After staying in San Peter twice I really am looking for an upgrade.
Do why'all have any additional suggestions on how to make my experience with FB girls better? So far I've gone down public friend lists and have amassed over 1000 chicas on my friend list but I feel like most are pretty inactive. If that's the best it gets, it is what it is and I'm ok with that but I'd like to find more active girls.
Does Parque Lleras pick up with more girls and better prices after 2 AM? I've only been a few times and always before 2. Have why'all also been getting a lot of 400 k an hour?
Thanks for reading.
[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2991116]Does anyone have any housing recommendations?[/QUOTE]You actually have the better room because you have not complained about the noise. Just get a different floor from a different owner. 400 K is the opening price of many Lleras girls. Do you not negotiate?
If you are there longer than a few days, then your phone likely will be blocked eventually. 20 K should get you a month.
[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2991116]I recall after my first trip that I actually didn't like the casa experience for a few reasons. They also have fucked other guys before you so they aren't as tight as a girl that hasn't fucked yet that day.[/QUOTE]What in the old wives tales is this? A vagina does not stretch and stay loose. It is more like a rubber band. It stretches when things are entering and exiting, then goes back to it's original form.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2991289]If you are there longer than a few days, then your phone likely will be blocked eventually. 20 K should get you a month.[/QUOTE]Which carrier has that price? I use Claro and the cheapest price for 30 days is 30,500.
[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2991116]Outside the airport on the first floor, are official white taxis to take you where you need to go. They charged me 130 k late at night but I recall it being like 110 k on my first trip.
Do why'all have any additional suggestions on how to make my experience with FB girls better? So far I've gone down public friend lists and have amassed over 1000 chicas on my friend list but I feel like most are pretty inactive. If that's the best it gets, it is what it is and I'm ok with that but I'd like to find more active girls.[/QUOTE]There is an official rate for the white taxis. It's posted on the wall either just outside the exit doors or just before you get to the exit doors. I don't remember which because I always take the bus. I think it was 110 K last year. They probably raised the price, but I don't think it's 130 K. The price includes the tolls, so don't get scammed by a driver wanting extra for tolls.
FB is changing. It's not as easy as before to find chicas on there. Many are locking their accounts so you can't evaluate them. I get one or more friend requests almost every day from chicas whose profiles are locked. I don't know if they are fake or they are only looking for suckers. Why would any intelligent person accept a friend request from someone who doesn't provide any of their information? Also, almost all my FB friends have hidden their friends list so it's more difficult to find new chicas. Most of my somewhat reliable FB chicas are available during the daytime, not at night.
[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2991116]I'm not sure how I feel about Facebook girls. Most girls from my experience are also not available until night time.[/QUOTE]That is because they are working in the casas in the daytime.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2991333]
FB is changing. It's not as easy as before to find chicas on there. Many are locking their accounts so you can't evaluate them. I get one or more friend requests almost every day from chicas whose profiles are locked. I don't know if they are fake or they are only looking for suckers. Why would any intelligent person accept a friend request from someone who doesn't provide any of their information? Also, almost all my FB friends have hidden their friends list so it's more difficult to find new chicas. Most of my somewhat reliable FB chicas are available during the daytime, not at night.[/QUOTE]When I have this situation, I accept the request, evaluate the profile, and then decide whether to keep them as a friend or remove them as a friend. I assume they are locking the profiles to limit what can be seen publicly (family, friends, mongers) and / or to reduce the number of requests they are receiving.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2991326]Which carrier has that price? I use Claro and the cheapest price for 30 days is 30,500.[/QUOTE]You can go to Claro or a Claro dealer and have them show you all packages on their computer terminal. You should see it on the list.
I tried a few of the spas and casas now.
Spa fantasia energy, about 10 girls 7/10 and better. 200 for an hour, sex included. No kissing no licking, the girl I had didn't do much b2 b.
Went out at 6 ish in centro, found a ridiculously cute petite girl, 50 k for sex, 20 extra for some basic kisses and having some nipple fun.
Later went back, in to playmates bar show, diff name on the door, but this find it on the maps. Good fun, good prices. Mostly avg girls but you can have some titties in your face for 2 k. They go round after a show to collect tips. Locals give 2 k each mostly, some will work a bit for this. If they did a great show or came really close to collect their tips I'd give 4, which made them extra happy (yeah cheap but don't want to ruin the local market haha). Girl was happy to sit with me for some girly drinks. Honestly I had much more fun than I did in La isla.
Just got to find a taxi driver to drop you in centro because they do not like bringing you there at night haha.
Also went to golden house in laurales, had a single girl for me, was my type so why not. Good enough experience 180 k for an hour.
2 things I can't seem to find though, an actual good B2 B massage, mostly done with the body instead of hands.
And girls that girls that love to do french kissing. (My oral hygiene is perfect) But still this seems to be hard here.
Any suggestions for the last 2?
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2991333]There is an official rate for the white taxis. It's posted on the wall either just outside the exit doors or just before you get to the exit doors. I don't remember which because I always take the bus. I think it was 110 K last year. They probably raised the price, but I don't think it's 130 K. The price includes the tolls, so don't get scammed by a driver wanting extra for tolls.
FB is changing. It's not as easy as before to find chicas on there. Many are locking their accounts so you can't evaluate them. I get one or more friend requests almost every day from chicas whose profiles are locked. I don't know if they are fake or they are only looking for suckers. Why would any intelligent person accept a friend request from someone who doesn't provide any of their information? Also, almost all my FB friends have hidden their friends list so it's more difficult to find new chicas. Most of my somewhat reliable FB chicas are available during the daytime, not at night.[/QUOTE]I used to ignore friend requests from locked accounts because you don't see anything about them but now I have changed my mind. If you accept the friend request, you can immediately see their account and their pictures. If you don't like what you see, you can immediately unfriend them. No harm, no foul.
[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2991116] They also require 300 k security deposit when not booked through airbnb which you get back as you leave which you can't spend except at the airport since you're literally leaving. [/QUOTE]San Peter accepts USD for deposits. You do not have to pay in Colombian Pesos. I've done it. No problem.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2990858]You are missing reality. The girls are sharks and you are a lamb to your slaughter. They will laugh at you if you suggest / offer 200 K while in El Poblado. They are looking for the fools with money, that's all. And then they try to upsell in your room and try to make all the rules. If you try to negotiate the price, then they cut back on the time with you. They all try to take anything they can from your hotel room, starting with the mini bar drinks, which are theirs by their reasoning. And then they go into your bathroom and steal from your shaving kit, come back in the room and say they started their period and you have to pay them anyway for their time with you.[/QUOTE]Most p2 p girls are sharks, but this is a bit too extreme. I'm not super experienced but I have seen over 100 girls from Medellin and probably 40-50 from Poblado, mostly Lleras. I think the girls on Calle 10 can definitely be more scammy and you should always be wary, but I've never had any of the issues you have stated, except for the mini bar thing. And you simply need to tell them not to use it + just buy some simple snacks or some shit. Spend $10-20 dollars total on some water / juice and some simple snacks and leave them out on the open and you should be good for multiple days. I have never had a girl grab more than one snack / drink, and most only want water. If you're really worried about that stuff, then just stay in Lleras because I have never had a girl there upsell, gatekeep services, leave early, or steal shit. Note, I'm not talking about whether service was good or not, simply about the issues mentioned above.
Unfortunately, the bathroom hot water problem exists in CH loft. Also, internet on TV keeps on disconnecting (I tried switching 3 different rooms just for this reason). It is not fun when there is no music in the room when you are with a girl. Their rooftop has decent food but ripoff prices. I have not been to the new underground bar. Also, the rooms are not much bigger than San Peters may be slightly bigger.
[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2991116]Review recapping two trips I have made to Medellin in April 2024 and again in late January 2025. I am going again in April. For context, I am 30 middle eastern with 0 Spanish.
Airport arrival:
April 2024 airport immigration area had a bunch of anti sex tourism stuff plastered literally everywhere on the walls. It's pretty much gone now but there is a wall or so still showing warnings. Immigration was pretty simple both times but on the first trip the line moved extremely slowly before picking up. They speak English. I filled out check mig (online immigration form) but guys in line didn't and they didn't have issues. There is a gift shop near ticketing / bag drop called verano or something like that which sells Claro SIM cards for around 20 k and lasts 10 days. I read earlier that you need to go register the phone / sim at an official Claro store with your passport or else your phone would eventually get blacklisted but the gift shop worker told me I didn't have to. She wasn't lying. I went back on my 2nd trip using the same phone after not registering and the phone worked fine. Also the store was open at 3 am on the 2nd trip on a Wednesday / Thursday so looks like it's open 24 hours too. ATMs are around here as well. Open a Fidelity or Schwab checking account to get all ATM fees refunded. Make sure to decline the conversation rate when prompted on the screen. Outside the airport on the first floor, are official white taxis to take you where you need to go. They charged me 130 k late at night but I recall it being like 110 k on my first trip. While they are safe and official, we really should be taking the bus. For me personally there is something about putting all my trust into a taxi driver that I still don't like. I used Uber to get around everywhere else not the airport, get in the front seat so you look like a friend being picked up.
Housing:
I stayed in San Peter both times in Laureles. It is located on a busy street called la 70 which is a long street full of clubs and restaurants. Felt safe walking around. I stayed in room 302 both times, not by choice. This room sucks. Hot water doesn't work well at all, tiny bathroom, and the toilet on the 2nd trip had stains that bleach couldn't remove. They also require 300 k security deposit when not booked through airbnb which you get back as you leave which you can't spend except at the airport since you're literally leaving. Friendly and easy staff, 24/7. They ID chicas you bring back. Just have your room number when checking her in. For check-out, the chica just leaves and that's it, you don't have to tell them. I did walk them out though. Very easy food delivery to this location and ATM and pharmacy are very close by. Overall not bad but I'the try to avoid room 302. Hopefully not all units have poor hot water. 40-50 usd a night. I do like the apartment style layout.
Casas:
I only went to Centro casas. First trip I went to New Life, Club sexi de amigas and Massejes Aiff. My conclusion after my 2nd trip is that New Life is probably one of the best parts about visiting Medellin. It's easy to get to, just Uber to the address. Don't just type in "new life" though and type in the street name and number, it took me somewhere else initially. There is a light blue door to enter making it easy to locate. 70 k for 30 minutes and 120 k for an hour. Most girls offer BBBJ for reasonable tip, I was offered 30 k but never partook. I recall after my first trip that I actually didn't like the casa experience for a few reasons. I've since changed my mind. One is that it isn't exactly close by and can take up to 30-40 minutes to get to with daytime traffic. The girls on average are about a 6. They also have fucked other guys before you so they aren't as tight as a girl that hasn't fucked yet that day. But for the straightforward low price, avoiding of catfishes, and relative ease / safety I'the have to give casas and specifically new life a recommendation. I haven't explored too many other casas but I've been told new life is the best one in terms of quality. Club sexi has less girls but equal quality when I went. Aiff only had 2 girls when I went in April 2024 and I'the say it was a bust. I personally don't think I'll explore other centro casas but let me know if I'm missing out.
Spa / massages:
I mostly get massages back home so I obviously had to partake in this. I know this isn't everyones cup of tea. I really like this experience personally. I found official massage spots on miIo eroticos. Bendito spa, thao spa, samadi spa to name a few. On average the cost is 250 k for 60-90 minutes which isn't cheap but an equivalent experience at home would be $300. Something about a beautiful Colombian woman sliding all over you is really hot to me. I pretty much got one every morning I was here on both trips. The women on average are prettier. Most don't offer extras from my experience, at the places I went to.
Facebook girls:
I'm not sure how I feel about Facebook girls. I have a side FB account and I've gathered over 1000 chicas on there over the years. Lots of accounts are probably fairly inactive. Good amount of catfishes / inaccurate pics. Girls flakey as hell. Charging 400 k an hour which I obviously decline. Just not something you want to deal with on a 3-4 day trip where time is more limited than money. Feels like such a waste of time having to sift through chicas or worse just have one not show up, which happened. Even having some chicas scheduled a week prior to your arrival in Medellin doesn't entirely help cause they can still just flake on you and not respond. I felt more annoyed by this on my most recent trip. Most girls from my experience are also not available until night time. Despite all this, I was able to find decent girls with reasonable prices I guess.
Parque Lleras:
April 2024 had ID check to enter the park but this is now gone. Girls on average are prettier and younger looking than centro casa girls. I didn't partake my first trip but did my 2nd trip. Paid 500 k for 2 hours. A lot of girls declined this offer if I can recall. Most wanted 400 k an hour. I went around 1 AM so maybe later at night you can get better deals. On the plus side, you can see the girl first before committing so you get that benefit over a Facebook girl and she's not going to flake since you pull her in person. Late at night, it's still not a bad option I guess.
Other options I didn't do and can't speak of personally:
- I never went to centro to check out the street walkers.
- I never went to centro strip clubs or any strip club for that matter. While strip clubs are pricey I do see the added benefit of just seeing a bunch of women all in one place and feeling them out before committing. I would imagine the quality at centro strip clubs is about the same as centro casas though.
- I never went to non-centro casas like Loutron or Energy.
- I never called up any "pros" off a website.
- I never used a dating app.
- I never tried to pick up 'regular' girls.
To close I have a few questions.
Does anyone have any housing recommendations? I saw someone mentioned CH Lofts a few pages back. Looks promising, has a balcony, jacuzzi, and 24/7 front desk for $80 a night. I messaged them and they said after 8 pm it costs 60 k to bring a guest up. Not bad. If anyone has tried this place could you please share your experience? Any other places you guys liked? After staying in San Peter twice I really am looking for an upgrade.
Do why'all have any additional suggestions on how to make my experience with FB girls better? So far I've gone down public friend lists and have amassed over 1000 chicas on my friend list but I feel like most are pretty inactive. If that's the best it gets, it is what it is and I'm ok with that but I'd like to find more active girls.
Does Parque Lleras pick up with more girls and better prices after 2 AM? I've only been a few times and always before 2. Have why'all also been getting a lot of 400 k an hour?
Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2991430]San Peter accepts USD for deposits. You do not have to pay in Colombian Pesos. I've done it. No problem.[/QUOTE]To add to this:
When you pay your deposit at San Peter in USD they will put it in an envelope and return it to you at check out.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2991430]San Peter accepts USD for deposits. You do not have to pay in Colombian Pesos. I've done it. No problem.[/QUOTE]To add to this:
When you pay your deposit at San Peter in USD they will put it in an envelope and return it to you at check out.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2991341]That is because they are working in the casas in the daytime.[/QUOTE]That is generally not true. That may be true for a small number of girls but most younger girls are busy going to classes or working or just have things to do. There are a lot of girls on Facebook who do not want to work full-time as a prostitute but are happy to do it occasionally to earn some extra money. The so-called semi-pros. But I have not done any scientific studies on this issue.
[QUOTE=Dvil00;2991376]
2 things I can't seem to find though, an actual good B2 B massage, mostly done with the body instead of hands.
And girls that girls that love to do french kissing. (My oral hygiene is perfect) But still this seems to be hard here.
Any suggestions for the last 2?[/QUOTE]Peep my review, a girl named Ailen. She does all the tricks and b2 b style nuru etc.
[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/peliroja-y-deseosa-para-darte-el-mejor-sexo/24491343/[/URL]
For DFK you can find some in the Casa BUT will have better luck with Indepdeants. So go to the ads and chat with them in WhatsApp and specicllay explain what ouu are looking for. Also let them know you are hygenic, you take it very serious, and its important the same etc. But there are PLENATY. I recall here and Brasil being like one the one place I went and was surprised at how much DFK they will do.
[QUOTE=Dvil00;2991376]And girls that girls that love to do french kissing. (My oral hygiene is perfect) But still this seems to be hard here.
Any suggestions for the last 2?[/QUOTE]The majority of working girls in Medellin that I met reserve it for their boyfriends or they are going to hold back even if they do it for an average customer. Even if you can get it, they rarely will go all out. Go to Brazil because the girls don't hold back right off the bat or go with non-working girls if you have the opportunity.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2991604]There are a lot of girls on Facebook who do not want to work full-time as a prostitute but are happy to do it occasionally to earn some extra money. The so-called semi-pros. But I have not done any scientific studies on this issue.[/QUOTE]This is a monger fantasy / fallacy. There is no such thing as a part time hooker. Like some chick is saying I only fuck for money Thursdays from 3 pm to 6 pm. Or if some guy calls her up right after she has left another guy, she is not going to say well my shift is over. I am only semi-pro so I will not be able to fuck again for money until next week.
No. She is going whenever someone calls her to come. Now if she does not get many calls that is a different thing. But you do not call someone on a professional sports team a semi-pro because they ride the bench or is only on the practice squad. How much playing time one gets does not determine their level of pro-ness. It is their proficiency at the job that does. And if she has fucked strangers for money more than a few times, then I would say she is pretty damn proficient, regardless of the schedule at which she does it.
I agree with MoonShot, A lot of the girls on FB have families / kids at home and are trying to make ends meet. There are a few that I know that of have worked the casas before but not many. Most I would say are going to school or have kids at home.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;2991604]That is generally not true. That may be true for a small number of girls but most younger girls are busy going to classes or working or just have things to do. There are a lot of girls on Facebook who do not want to work full-time as a prostitute but are happy to do it occasionally to earn some extra money. The so-called semi-pros. But I have not done any scientific studies on this issue.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2991676]This is a monger fantasy / fallacy. There is no such thing as a part time hooker. Like some chick is saying I only fuck for money Thursdays from 3 pm to 6 pm. Or if some guy calls her up right after she has left another guy, she is not going to say well my shift is over. I am only semi-pro so I will not be able to fuck again for money until next week.
No. She is going whenever someone calls her to come. Now if she does not get many calls that is a different thing. But you do not call someone on a professional sports team a semi-pro because they ride the bench or is only on the practice squad. How much playing time one gets does not determine their level of pro-ness. It is their proficiency at the job that does. And if she has fucked strangers for money more than a few times, then I would say she is pretty damn proficient, regardless of the schedule at which she does it.[/QUOTE]There are hardened girls in certain casas / clubs / wherever that work there several times a week, sometimes literally every day, for quite some time. And then there are girls who are there for only a short period and then just don't return. They do it because they needed some extra cash at some point but it's not something they do for an extended period of time.
It's of course up to you if you see them as different, but I do find them different, in attitude mostly.
In town until Tuesday night. If anyone is in town and wants go out on the hunt together let me know.
Also looking for recommendations on the massage places at Rio Sur. There are a few. For those that partake in that what have your experiences been? Which place would you recommend or recommend to avoid?
It's a thin line between reality and the persistent myths, fantasies, and confirmation bias that make the hobby fun. The rational mind tells us that a chica who accepts money for sex on demand is a pro. This widely accepted fact of life can be dull if it isn't spiced up with fantasy dimension. It's not that different from exclusive marriages in which the couple engages in cosplay, swinging or whatever to break up the routine. In our world, there is a tendency to sprinkle concepts like "sugar baby," "part timer," "semi-pro," "college girl," "facebook girl who spent more than 2 hours with me" etc. Into the mix to justify costs and fill what need there may be for something beyond the deed. Savvy providers pick up on the orientation and use it to their advantage. If there is perceived value in a Julia Roberts / Pretty Woman scenario for a Captain Save a Hoe oriented guy, the more clever providers will slide right into that role. Depending on the woman, I enjoy interaction beyond the deed but I'm not generally willing to pay a premium for it. There is no wrong or right way to do it as long as no one gets victimized financially or emotionally. I personally prefer to commoditize the transaction and keep it separate from other interaction because I've found I have fewer regrets whether or not I decide to hang out with a girl before and / or after the deed.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2991676]This is a monger fantasy / fallacy. There is no such thing as a part time hooker. Like some chick is saying I only fuck for money Thursdays from 3 pm to 6 pm. Or if some guy calls her up right after she has left another guy, she is not going to say well my shift is over. I am only semi-pro so I will not be able to fuck again for money until next week.
No. She is going whenever someone calls her to come. Now if she does not get many calls that is a different thing. But you do not call someone on a professional sports team a semi-pro because they ride the bench or is only on the practice squad. How much playing time one gets does not determine their level of pro-ness. It is their proficiency at the job that does. And if she has fucked strangers for money more than a few times, then I would say she is pretty damn proficient, regardless of the schedule at which she does it.[/QUOTE]
My experience has always been that French kissing is the norm with the Facebook girls I see and happens occasionally (maybe 30%) with casa girls. It feels pretty passionate and organic with half or more of the ones I do it with. I like to pull back a little and see if the girl follows me when we are kissing as a test of if she's really into it I remember a guy saying on here that he thought that Colombian women didn't like French kissing a while back and thinking "what are they talking about?
Anyway, all our experiences vary and I don't think there is a single norm. I do speak Spanish and I make sure I am clean, smell good, have good oral hygiene, and actively try to make them feel relaxed and ease. I do think you need some chemistry with a woman, pro or not, to have the very best experience possible.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2991624]The majority of working girls in Medellin that I met reserve it for their boyfriends or they are going to hold back even if they do it for an average customer. Even if you can get it, they rarely will go all out. Go to Brazil because the girls don't hold back right off the bat or go with non-working girls if you have the opportunity.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Recondite;2992089]My experience has always been that French kissing is the norm with the Facebook girls I see and happens occasionally (maybe 30%) with casa girls. It feels pretty passionate and organic with half or more of the ones I do it with. I like to pull back a little and see if the girl follows me when we are kissing as a test of if she's really into it I remember a guy saying on here that he thought that Colombian women didn't like French kissing a while back and thinking "what are they talking about?
Anyway, all our experiences vary and I don't think there is a single norm. I do speak Spanish and I make sure I am clean, smell good, have good oral hygiene, and actively try to make them feel relaxed and ease. I do think you need some chemistry with a woman, pro or not, to have the very best experience possible.[/QUOTE]I personally do not want to be making out with casa girls as these girls are very high mileage. They are there for many hours & the pretty ones are doing guy after guy after guy. If I go in at 1 pm for a session the best ones might have already serviced 4-8 guys, do you really want to be kissing a girl who has already sucked 6 cocks that day? Yuk! Even worse, at the termas in Rio, they have sucked many cocks that day before you get there + besos negros is very common in Brazil so they have probably licked numerous assholes also! Double yuk!
Guys, I will be in Medellin on 3/28. Do you have recommendations to find a date?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2992089]My experience has always been that French kissing is the norm with the Facebook girls I see and happens occasionally (maybe 30%) with casa girls. average customer[/QUOTE]Do you consider yourself [B]average[/B] in terms of age, look.... ? Also bad hygiene will be below [B]average[/B]. I compared them side by side when a girl bring non-working friend to feel the difference.
It's what I was told explicitly by the girls. I have asked one girl that I have seen many times to not hold back and I could see the change in her facial expression like she was caught. She said I was her novio and no more other girls afterward. There was another who would sometimes ask to stay with me all night without me asking and even told me I could have sex for free. She told me the same thing.
(c) Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. --Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce or resides, either temporarily or permanently, in a foreign country, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
Beware if you are from the US and go to any foreign country for sex. This is not politics, it is news and fact.
They just imprisoned a state senator from ND. [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/27/raymon-holmberg-sentenced-czechia-sex-with-minors/82694777007/?tbref=hp[/URL]
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2993235](c) Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. --Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce or resides, either temporarily or permanently, in a foreign country, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
Beware if you are from the US and go to any foreign country for sex. This is not politics, it is news and fact.
They just imprisoned a state senator from ND. [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/27/raymon-holmberg-sentenced-czechia-sex-with-minors/82694777007/?tbref=hp[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds like we ALL could go to jail for 10 years like that guy, if we "travel or reside temporarily. In any foreign country and engages in sexual conduct with another person. " Glad I would never do such a thing! LOL.
I suppose they expect us to travel to another country and not eat their food, drink their wine, and masturbate!
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2993235](c) Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. --Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce or resides, either temporarily or permanently, in a foreign country, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
Beware if you are from the US and go to any foreign country for sex. This is not politics, it is news and fact.
They just imprisoned a state senator from ND. [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/27/raymon-holmberg-sentenced-czechia-sex-with-minors/82694777007/?tbref=hp[/URL][/QUOTE]Key word in the statute is "illicit". If prostitution is legal in the country to visit, you're OK. If you are breaking the law in the foreign country, you're also breaking US law.
This website has a history of complicating simple issues in ways that confuse the newer members. The facts of the North Dakota / Czech Republic case is the subject was convicted of engaging in activity that is expressly illegal in both countries. Neither the travel nor the subject's occupation are significant. Having sex in the United States or anywhere else with a consenting adult is not illegal per se. If consent and / or adulthood are out of the picture then it is risky.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2993235](c) Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. --Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce or resides, either temporarily or permanently, in a foreign country, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
Beware if you are from the US and go to any foreign country for sex. This is not politics, it is news and fact.
They just imprisoned a state senator from ND. [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/27/raymon-holmberg-sentenced-czechia-sex-with-minors/82694777007/?tbref=hp[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2993235](c) Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. --Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce or resides, either temporarily or permanently, in a foreign country, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
Beware if you are from the US and go to any foreign country for sex. This is not politics, it is news and fact.
They just imprisoned a state senator from ND. [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/27/raymon-holmberg-sentenced-czechia-sex-with-minors/82694777007/?tbref=hp[/URL][/QUOTE]I hope no one on this site is doing what that guy was doing. If so, they should go to jail.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2993235](c) Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. --Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce or resides, either temporarily or permanently, in a foreign country, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
Beware if you are from the US and go to any foreign country for sex.
This is not politics, it is news and fact.[/QUOTE]The source of that information is Section 2423 (c) of Title 18 of the United States Code. That section also defines illicit sexual conduct as "(1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109 A if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States; (2) any commercial sex act (as defined in section 1591) with a person under 18 years of age; or (3) production of child pornography (as defined in section 2256 (8))." Staying away from minors and having sex with prostitutes where it is legal should not present a problem.
I'd say I do better than average in Colombia and Latin America in general. I just turned 40, speak the language well, and have had enough women tell me I'm handsome to not think they are all just buttering me up. I date for fun in Medellin and have had several nonpro amigas as well as having a girlfriend at one point.
There is a range of experiences with kissing and I know what you mean about holding back. I've had women not want to kiss, give me the pecks and also women that kind of repetitvely french kiss (I classify it as French if the tongue is involved).
Almost all the women I've met off of Facebook / Instagram have at least done the repetitive kissing thing. I can only think of a couple that did pecks. I've had quite a few passionate experiences at this point as well. As I said before I tend to find that the casa girls that are higher volume hold back more. But I've also had a top 10 sexual experience with a casa girl who was making out with me like crazy and looking at me with that lustful look women sometimes give during sex that made me feel like she wanted to eat me alive.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2992121]Do you consider yourself [B]average[/B] in terms of age, look.... ? Also bad hygiene will be below [B]average[/B]. I compared them side by side when a girl bring non-working friend to feel the difference.
It's what I was told explicitly by the girls. I have asked one girl that I have seen many times to not hold back and I could see the change in her facial expression like she was caught. She said I was her novio and no more other girls afterward. There was another who would sometimes ask to stay with me all night without me asking and even told me I could have sex for free. She told me the same thing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CatBert55;2993277]Key word in the statute is "illicit". If prostitution is legal in the country to visit, you're OK. If you are breaking the law in the foreign country, you're also breaking US law.[/QUOTE]Not quite that simple. You are breaking the law in the US and many other countries if you have commercial sex with someone under 18 no matter what the law of the country is where it happened. So age of consent in Colombia is irrelevant.
I'll be in Medellin Monday 3/31. Hit me up if any of you want a wingman. Cheers!
[QUOTE=CatBert55;2993277]Key word in the statute is "illicit". If prostitution is legal in the country to visit, you're OK. If you are breaking the law in the foreign country, you're also breaking US law.[/QUOTE]Not sure what "illicit" means. Sounds like its a bad word. Maybe it means habitual? Depends on who you get on the jury. If its a bunch of old women, they will convict you for anything involving having fun!
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2990373]I know Hotel Nutibara is old and not the best hotel we like to stay in Medellin but if you like mongering in El Centro Parque Berrio, I think it's the best hotel! You can bring your girls without any problem during the day. And in the evening, the guy from the reception just ask the ID of the girl and let you go your room without any problem. I was there 4 nights and I din't get any problem. The breakfast is not the best but is OK! I paid only 31 Euros / night. And for the room, I suggest you to ask the room 811. It's the best room of the hotel.[/QUOTE]I might book this for when I'm here in May. Do they charge guest fee?
[QUOTE=DidierD;2993964]I might book this for when I'm here in May. Do they charge guest fee?[/QUOTE]Yes. 100 mil after 6 pm.
So what's the Brothel / strip club / massage parlor situation like?
I'm not really super fond of rolling the Dice on Escorts but I don't like over paying.
I was in Medellin for two weeks in November 2023 and at that time there were a lot of concerns about getting robbed on the street at gunpoint. Has this situation improved? Or are there still weekly horror stories?
[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2991116]The girls on average are about a 6. They also have fucked other guys before you so they aren't as tight as a girl that hasn't fucked yet that day. But for the straightforward low price, avoiding of catfishes, and relative ease / safety I'the have to give casas and specifically new life a recommendation.
[/QUOTE]Why bother flying to Medellin to fuck 6's? You could have 8-10's in Tijuana HK for less hassle, similar cash.
[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2991116]
I mostly get massages back home so I obviously had to partake in this. I know this isn't everyones cup of tea. I really like this experience personally. I found official massage spots on miIo eroticos. Bendito spa, thao spa, samadi spa to name a few. On average the cost is 250 k for 60-90 minutes which isn't cheap but an equivalent experience at home would be $300. Something about a beautiful Colombian woman sliding all over you is really hot to me. I pretty much got one every morning I was here on both trips. The women on average are prettier. Most don't offer extras from my experience, at the places I went to.
[/QUOTE]Just to confirm: the girls do nuru body slides + he, correct? How would you rate these girls 1-10?
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2994636]Why bother flying to Medellin to fuck 6's? You could have 8-10's in Tijuana HK for less hassle, similar cash.
[/QUOTE]Because people travel for more reasons than finding hookers to fuck.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2994636]Why bother flying to Medellin to fuck 6's? You could have 8-10's in Tijuana HK for less hassle, similar cash.
Just to confirm: the girls do nuru body slides + he, correct? How would you rate these girls 1-10?[/QUOTE]I disagree, Medellin chicas are better looking than HK chicas. I've been to both dozens of times, but Medellin a lot more lately because it's actually first world in the part I stay in el Poblado. Equal to being in US but much cheaper. Even if you pay the chica 400 K p & that's towards the higher end, that's equal to #100 US.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2994636]Why bother flying to Medellin to fuck 6's? You could have 8-10's in Tijuana HK for less hassle, similar cash.[/QUOTE]It's really dumb to try and compare the entire City of Medellin to a simple club in Tijuana called Hong Kong. This really shows your intelligence level and maturity. A proper comparison would be to compare HK to La Isla or HK to Fase Dos, which are two clubs in Medellin. If it's going to be Medellin vs HK Club then there is no comparison because Medellin wins hands down by a thousand miles. There are many things to do and much more options than just going to a club or bar. Have you ever been to Medellin?
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2994725]I disagree, Medellin chicas are better looking than HK chicas. [/QUOTE]He is not saying that based on what he quoted. In a way, he was saying why fly to Medellin to fuck 6 in casa. He probably was wrong about the price comparison.
[QUOTE=Phreeman69;2990164]A buddy and I spent three days in Medellin entertaining Facebook girls in the afternoon and pulling from Lleras at night. The apartment was just a block off the park, convenient but also very noisy. After picking up snacks and libations, we'd warm the girls up in the hot tub, which was on a private patio, then bring them inside for banging. No-rush, girlfriend experience and BBBJ was agreed ahead of time (we both speak Spanish), which was not usually a problem.
A building security guard photographed their IDs, and we kept everything locked up in the safes, plus there being two of us it felt fairly secure. Twice I pulled a pair of girls from Lleras, which was a treat. A day trip to the city center turned up lots of girls (and trans) but none good looking enough to bring home.
We paid 250 k or 300 k. Some wanted more but we didn't go with them. We were confident of the price and girls generally accepted it without hesitation.
Fun trip. Medellin is great.[/QUOTE]I never pay more than 300 k for 2 hours session with top Facebook girl, girls want more because american, yes and I said american overpaid girls in Medellin.
Has anyone tried seeking arrangements in Medellin? How did it go?
[QUOTE=Caboteur;2995414]I never pay more than 300 k for 2 hours session with top Facebook girl, girls want more because american, yes and I said american overpaid girls in Medellin.[/QUOTE]When I see folks talk and brag about their chikas and prices I only think that they are either desperate or new to the game, and don't have any clue what so ever. I know that this statement will disappoint or make mad to lots of guys. Last year I paid as low as 140 mil peso to 250 mil peso with either one way taxi or round trip. This year early I paid 200 mil to 250 mil peso with same one way taxi or round trip taxi. Some showed up by moto taxi. Always paid when chicas were leaving. I know that locals are not paying what you are paying. All the sessions were non rushed and GFE. Seeking is ok if you are there for more than month. It has lot of bait and switch some times. There are many regular to colombia guys that i know of who don't post here anymore and have gone silent lately cuz they disagree with what's happening in the medelln. One of my buddy is a frequent and he even pays less then I do or some time just a dinner and drink deal for his regulars. I have not figured out his secret formula yet.
I spent a few days in Lisbon, Portugal a couple of years ago and I had a wonderful time with a woman I met through seeking arrangements. I see that tons of beautiful girls are on seeking in Medellin. I wonder what type of prices they charge.
[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2995606]When I see folks talk and brag about their chikas and prices I only think that they are either desperate or new to the game, and don't have any clue what so ever. I know that this statement will disappoint or make mad to lots of guys. Last year I paid as low as 140 mil peso to 250 mil peso with either one way taxi or round trip. This year early I paid 200 mil to 250 mil peso with same one way taxi or round trip taxi. Some showed up by moto taxi. Always paid when chicas were leaving. I know that locals are not paying what you are paying. All the sessions were non rushed and GFE. Seeking is ok if you are there for more than month. It has lot of bait and switch some times. There are many regular to colombia guys that i know of who don't post here anymore and have gone silent lately cuz they disagree with what's happening in the medelln. One of my buddy is a frequent and he even pays less then I do or some time just a dinner and drink deal for his regulars. I have not figured out his secret formula yet.[/QUOTE]There is no single entity called a Facebook or Seeking girl. All types of girls are on these sites. Young and old, pretty and ugly, slim and chubby. They do not check with each other and agree to charge the same amount. Some will ask for more, some will ask for less. In El Centro, the girls are close together and the guys ask the girls in quick succession how much so the prices tend to be in a tight range. That is not the case with Facebook or Seeking girls because the prices are not visible or mentioned anywhere on the profiles so there is no price transparency for either the girls or the guys.
Just offer what you are willing to pay and if the girl says no, move on. It really doesn't matter what the girl is asking. It only matters what you are willing to pay and whether she will accept it.
Hey all, I'll be in Medellin from this Saturday the 12th through Monday the 21st. I'll be staying close to Parque Lleras, just because I like that area more than Botero, but will be heading to Botero probably late morning to mid-afternoon every day because I am after all an "el centro hoodrat".
All this to say, I'll confirm prices that I am offered and what I can negotiate when I'm there.
I also will say that this whole discussion of price oftentimes devolves into apples v. Oranges comparisons. I try to convert pricing into an equivalent time period to get a better understanding of where things stand.
As an example from my last trip to Medellin in November 2024:
Plaza Botero girls. All right around $40 k for a short time, plus room, or $50 k-60 k for short time and they paid the room, but either way, figure $60 k for 20 minutes in a short time room across from the church. If you convert that into an hourly rate, you're looking at $180 k, since the room charge is for each short time visit. Perhaps the girl would go cheaper for the second or third extension, but in practice I've generally paid an additional $40 k, but sometimes less, just depends. So figure, round numbers, $180-200 k for a solid hour of chica time.
Parque Lleras. Also November 2024 - each and every girl was $200 k or below, but never lower than $150 k and each gave well over an hour, with several of them going to 2 hours, but that was generally the cutoff.
If you just compare the 2 at face value, you're thinking $40 k + room = $60 k which is way better than $200 k. But is it?
Personally, I'd pay the $200 k and get the girl for a full 2 hours (always negotiate this, plus additional pops if you think you can do it) and then compare to an equivalent short time girl rate and often the longer term Parque Lleras price is better.
At least for me it is.
I love Botero and the surrounding area mainly for short time product testing. Siempre digo estoy probando la mercancia. So a 20 minute test drive is all good for that rate. If a Botero girl ends up being particularly impressive, then I may take her for longer, and I've noticed that if our test drive went well, she treats me nicer and with better perks for the next visit at a standard rate. Or I may take her for a full 2 hours and only pay her $100 k and maybe buy her a rotisserie chicken meal as an extra.
Bottom line, compare prices for equivalent services and equate them to equivalent time periods and then judge the value for yourself.
And remember, YOU CAN ALWAYS TURN THEM DOWN! Jesus, no pussy is worth paying any price for if the girl is a giant pain in the ass. Just send them on their way and pick one of the 400+ other ones offering you her pussy. No one has to pay $400 k, $500 k or whatever. Just say no!
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2995614]I spent a few days in Lisbon, Portugal a couple of years ago and I had a wonderful time with a woman I met through seeking arrangements. I see that tons of beautiful girls are on seeking in Medellin. I wonder what type of prices they charge.[/QUOTE]LOL, have you heard a gringo gets killed about every 2 weeks from getting scopolamine? Countless others robbed. Most seeking and tinder girls. Watch yourself. Another member already warned you.