[QUOTE=Freeman 418]I would.. because then it would mean she had barebacked every piece of gutter filth from here to there.. and was past caring.[/QUOTE]
Damn its good to see someone has common sense on this board.
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[QUOTE=Freeman 418]I would.. because then it would mean she had barebacked every piece of gutter filth from here to there.. and was past caring.[/QUOTE]
Damn its good to see someone has common sense on this board.
I have not been posting for a long time as I got a bit concerned about some members bare backing exploits in isaan and their general attitudes
But anyhow.
I m just back from BKK and visited a friend there. He had been chatting with some chick from Korat on a website. The woman wanted to visit him in BKK and wanted to talk. He thought it better to visit the woman in Korat so off he took. In Korat the gal was rather friendly and suggested to stay overnight in a local hotel. After checking in, she became very nice and some sex took place. My buddy is not an idiot and used condoms and did not engage in oral sex or let her do it.
Being a bit worn out from the trip he was relaxing and let her play with his cock. At one point he saw how her hand went between her legs and back to his dick rubbing the top of it. He could not believe it but went to the bathroom and cleaned himself. Still confused he did not kick her out but simply left the next morning.
The result was an STD infection and he got shots and pills for any kind bacteria. The doctors told him that the risk for HIV, Hep or Syphilis is rather limited.
The person goes by Wannisa (also her hotmail account) is 21 yrs old, from Korat, more precisely Nonsung, 160 cm.
She specialized in hitting up foreigners on the web for joined holidays in Phuket and Samui. Pattaya she does not like as a farang kicked her out after 2 days (I wonder why.). Before she had worked in a bar on Ko Samui (last winter season).
I think it is important to warn anyone about this person as she is a health risk and engages in a kind of physical attack that could be lethal.
Below you find the pic. I do not add her hotmail id as those are forbidden to post. I know it is unusual to out a person like that but he might not be her only victim.
Merck's experimental AIDS vaccine fails By LINDA A. JOHNSON, AP Business Writer
10 minutes ago
TRENTON, N.J. - In a disappointing setback, a promising experimental AIDS vaccine failed to work in a large international test, leading the developer to halt the study. Merck & Co. said Friday that it is ending enrollment and vaccination of volunteers in the study, which was partly funded by the National Institutes of Health.
It was a high-profile failure in the daunting quest to develop a vaccine to prevent AIDS. Merck's vaccine was the farthest along and was closely watched by experts in the field.
Officials at the company, based in Whitehouse Station, N.J., said 24 of 741 volunteers who got the vaccine in one segment of the experiment later became infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. In a comparison group of volunteers who got dummy shots, 21 of 762 participants also became infected.
"It's very disappointing news," said Keith Gottesdiener, head of Merck's clinical infectious disease and vaccine research group. "A major effort to develop a vaccine for HIV really did not deliver on the promise."
Michael Zwick, an HIV researcher at Scripps Research Institute, said the vaccine's failure is unfortunate. But he said it's too soon to know if other vaccines using the same strategy would also fail.
"It's par for the course in the HIV field," he said of the Merck result.
The volunteers in the experiment were all free of HIV at the start. But they were at high risk for getting the virus: Most were homosexual men or female sex workers. They were all repeatedly counseled about how to reduce their risk of HIV infections, including use of condoms, according to Merck.
In a statement, the NIH said a data safety monitoring board, reviewing interim results, found the vaccine did not prevent HIV infection. Nor did it limit severity of the disease "in those who become infected with HIV as a result of their own behaviors that exposed them to the virus" — another goal of the study.
Merck's was the first major test of a new strategy to prevent HIV infection. The first wave of attempts to develop a vaccine tried to stimulate antibodies against the virus, but that hasn't worked so far.
The new effort — an approach that Gottesdiener said is being tried in most other current research — is aimed at making the body produce more of a crucial immune cell called killer T cells. The goal is to simultaneously "train" those cells, like an army, to quickly recognize and destroy the AIDS virus when it enters cells in the bloodstream.
Zwick said some researchers still are working on vaccines to neutralize the AIDS virus. He thinks ultimately what's needed is one that combines that approach with a way to stimulate and train killer T cells.
Merck and the HIV Vaccine Trials Network, an international collaboration of researchers and institutions funded by the NIH, co-sponsored the study. The experiment, called STEP, began in December 2004 and had enrolled 3,000 volunteers in Australia, Brazil, Canada, the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru, Puerto Rico and the United States.
The results announced Friday involved volunteers who researchers thought would benefit most because they had never been exposed to the particular cold virus used in the vaccine.
Wall Street, on a generally upbeat day, showed little reaction to the news, with Merck shares rising 44 cents to $51.82.
Analyst Steve Brozak of WBB Securities said the vaccine was considered the most promising candidate both by Wall Street and the science community. He said a vaccine is the only financially feasible way to fight the AIDS epidemic in poor countries and that the company that comes up with the first successful shot would have "a license to print money."
"You're talking about a Carl Sagan kind of number — billions and billions" of dollars, he said.
The Merck vaccine, known only as V520, also was being tested in a similar study in South Africa and in two smaller studies, which also were halted.
The Merck vaccine failure is a "deep disappointment and a scientific setback for the AIDS vaccine field," the AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition said in a statement. However, the nonprofit group added that "while this is a disappointment, it is in no way the end of the search for an AIDS vaccine."
[QUOTE=The Corn Hole]No, actually the accuracy of the ELISA test alone is nowhere near 98% if that is what you're inferring. It's not even 50% and with more and more people in the "low risk" catagory getting tested an accurate positive result is probably even lower than that! Even with a confirmed positive WB test I don't think it's 98% like you said. If the ELISA test had a very low false positive rate I don't really see a need to confirm it with WB. In any case only 25 -30% of positive ELISA patients that test again with PCR test positive for the actual virus itself. This is why I don't have this test done because of it's extreme inaccuracy.
I got the PCR test done for $200 including doctor's visit. Chances are there is a clinic or two that will do it in every major city. I don't know which clinics perform this test in Thailand. To use this test on a Thai bargirl is kind of silly I agree. A standard ELISA would be good enough in my view. But still, it could take 3 months for the antibodies to show up in the blood. Yet another reason this test is flawed.[/QUOTE]
The Corn Hole,
ELISA isn't very specific but very sensitive. Due to this it may produce wrong positive results which must then be confirmed/checked by a more specific (but less sensitive) test. But if it comes back with a negative it's a definitive negative. No need to worry anymore - of course only after the mentioned 3 months period after the incident / possible infection.
Just to remind you guys that there are other nasty things out there.
Went to Cambodia for about a week and brought back a nasty souvenir - Dengue or breakbone fever. It got that name for a reason. Wasn't a nice experience, it's quite dangerous if you aren't blessed with a strong health. I didn't even recognized it in the beginning and the symptoms - fever, ague, muscle pain, general fatigue - mislead me thinking of malaria.
Went to a hospital on my return and the doctor diagnosed that little damn thing which can cause internal bleedings, bleedings of the brain, shock and unconsciousness. In the end I also got a nasty rash that itched like hell. He told me you can get it everywhere, even in Bangkok. It's high season for Dengue right now anyway.
Luckily my immune system got rid of this little guest as he misbehaved beyond any level that could be tolerated. So try to stay save and away from mosquitos if possible.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Just to remind you guys that there are other nasty things out there.[/QUOTE]
Deepest sympathy. I had dengue (was working in the Mexican jungles) 20 years or so ago. Surely makes you wish for death to come quickly. Fortunately, only lasts about a week or so. It's caused by a virus and transmitted by mosquitoes. No vaccine, no cure except time.
Misery.
Hope you're feeling much better.
Greetings all,
I will most likely be visiting Bangkok for the first time in a few months. I'm somewhat new to all this and wondering the risks of contracting something strictly via BBBJ or going down on the girl (I'll be using a condom for everything else). Anyhow, how bad or prevalent is it in Bangkok? While I'm there, because of my schedule (amongst other reasons) I won't be able to do too much of the bar/MP scene. Which means ultimately I'll be hitting up the escort agencies and I'm wondering if it is somewhat fair to say that the pricier agencies and girls might mean safer, and more freedom in those departments?
Again, I apologize for my ignorance, like I said this is all new to me. Thank you all for your advice and insight, much appreciated.
Cheers, J
[QUOTE=Jsurf]Greetings all,
I will most likely be visiting Bangkok for the first time in a few months. I'm somewhat new to all this and wondering the risks of contracting something strictly via BBBJ or going down on the girl (I'll be using a condom for everything else). Anyhow, how bad or prevalent is it in Bangkok? While I'm there, because of my schedule (amongst other reasons) I won't be able to do too much of the bar/MP scene. Which means ultimately I'll be hitting up the escort agencies and I'm wondering if it is somewhat fair to say that the pricier agencies and girls might mean safer, and more freedom in those departments?
Again, I apologize for my ignorance, like I said this is all new to me. Thank you all for your advice and insight, much appreciated.
Cheers, J[/QUOTE]
You won't get a straight answer because there isn't one about BBBJ and going down. It is up to you to decide if the risk is acceptable. Don't be fooled into think a more expensive girl will be any less of a risk or more for that matter. The only ones I would personaly stay away from are those on the streets who couldn't get a job in a bar or brothel.
[QUOTE=Jsurf]
the risks of contracting something strictly via BBBJ or going down on the girl (I'll be using a condom for everything else).
Cheers, J[/QUOTE]I got the most virulent strain of gonorrhea from BBBJ at the Eden Club in Bangkok the year before last. The girls were scrupulous about using condoms for everything else.
I ended up giving the clap to my German girlfriend who was not best pleased.
The strain of gonorrhea was highly antibiotic resistant and I ended up having to have a series of injections in the ass.
The venerologist explained the following:
As far as gonorrhea is concerned, it can live in the mucous membranes of the throat as well as in the vagina. If the infected girl deep throats her customer, then it is relatively easy for him to get infected. It is common among gay men. It does not live in the mouth, so the risk of getting it from a bit of sucking and licking is not that great.
As for DATY it is unlikely a man will get gonorrhea from this, though not impossible. In which case it will colonise his throat and he'll give it to anyone he deep throats. Those of you that swing both ways be warned.
Syphilis is another story entirely, and I'm not entirely sure if it transmits orally. Do you own research.
You can certainly get HIV from any kind of sexual activities where the infected person's body fluids enter the blood stream of the other person. A nick on your dick, or bleeding gums will do the job.
As to all the other wonderful bugs that women seem to get, such as chlamidia, tricho, yeast infections etc etc, yeah, you can get non specific infections from them. But they are no big deal, or at least not in the same league as syphilis, gonorrhea or HIV.
This is a repeat post......did you ever contact the management and inform them that the girl needed medical attention so she doesn't pass this on to others? I am not a customer of Eden, and could care less about their business....but you have now mentioned the place twice in reference to an incident of STD. Do you have some other agenda?
[QUOTE=Lama Di Bali]I got the most virulent strain of gonorrhea from BBBJ at the Eden Club in Bangkok the year before last. The girls were scrupulous about using condoms for everything else.
I ended up giving the clap to my German girlfriend who was not best pleased.
The strain of gonorrhea was highly antibiotic resistant and I ended up having to have a series of injections in the ass.
The venerologist explained the following:
As far as gonorrhea is concerned, it can live in the mucous membranes of the throat as well as in the vagina. If the infected girl deep throats her customer, then it is relatively easy for him to get infected. It is common among gay men. It does not live in the mouth, so the risk of getting it from a bit of sucking and licking is not that great.
As for DATY it is unlikely a man will get gonorrhea from this, though not impossible. In which case it will colonise his throat and he'll give it to anyone he deep throats. Those of you that swing both ways be warned.
Syphilis is another story entirely, and I'm not entirely sure if it transmits orally. Do you own research.
You can certainly get HIV from any kind of sexual activities where the infected person's body fluids enter the blood stream of the other person. A nick on your dick, or bleeding gums will do the job.
As to all the other wonderful bugs that women seem to get, such as chlamidia, tricho, yeast infections etc etc, yeah, you can get non specific infections from them. But they are no big deal, or at least not in the same league as syphilis, gonorrhea or HIV.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jsurf]...wondering the risks of contracting something strictly via BBBJ or going down on the girl (I'll be using a condom for everything else). ...wondering if it is somewhat fair to say that the pricier agencies and girls might mean safer, and more freedom in those departments?[/QUOTE]
If you back up about a month in this forum, you'll see a fairly lively discussion about this subject. Lots of truth and lots of not truths. But this is a subject you'll have to do your own research on as the members all seem to have their own "verifiable" opinions and horror stories. There is a lot of good information in that discussion, though.
J, spending more money on an expensive girl will not protect you from STDs unless you use the empty space in your wallet for more condoms which you use. I've never used an escort agency but seem to think they cost a lot more than I like to pay. And I've heard the quality can be very good or very bad. Same as every where else!
Have fun. The LOS is an amazing place, the women are amazing and you're gonna have a good time. Hope you'll have the time to see places other than Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]This is a repeat post......did you ever contact the management and inform them that the girl needed medical attention so she doesn't pass this on to others? I am not a customer of Eden, and could care less about their business....but you have now mentioned the place twice in reference to an incident of STD. Do you have some other agenda?[/QUOTE]After my session at Eden I flew on to Germany where the symptoms presented themselves. I did not visit Bangkok again until a year later. It hardly seemed reasonable to make a fuss after such a length of time.
So no, I did not report it to management. I have no axe to grind with them at all. Nor with the girl herself. I'm sure it was not deliberate. Shit happens.
My sole purpose is to disabuse anybody of the belief that getting an STD from a blow job is rare.
Calls from Germany to Thailand can be had for very cheap.....either by calling card or the local Pakistani with a phone store. I certainly believe that you can in fact get an STD from a blow job......so I certainly am not one who is disagreeing with you.
My posts about contacting the management were so that the girl could get some medical attention so that this very virulent strain would not be passed on to many more customers by bj and kissing. Do you realize that based on your own comments, a mini epidemic could get started by her and all the blow jobs she provides at Eden? All I was saying that once you went as far as to identify where this came from, that notification to the manager would have yielded some possible protection to your brother mongers.
[QUOTE=Lama Di Bali]After my session at Eden I flew on to Germany where the symptoms presented themselves. I did not visit Bangkok again until a year later. It hardly seemed reasonable to make a fuss after such a length of time.
So no, I did not report it to management. I have no axe to grind with them at all. Nor with the girl herself. I'm sure it was not deliberate. Shit happens.
My sole purpose is to disabuse anybody of the belief that getting an STD from a blow job is rare.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]Calls from Germany to Thailand can be had for very cheap.....either by calling card or the local Pakistani with a phone store. I certainly believe that you can in fact get an STD from a blow job......so I certainly am not one who is disagreeing with you.
My posts about contacting the management were so that the girl could get some medical attention so that this very virulent strain would not be passed on to many more customers by bj and kissing. Do you realize that based on your own comments, a mini epidemic could get started by her and all the blow jobs she provides at Eden? All I was saying that once you went as far as to identify where this came from, that notification to the manager would have yielded some possible protection to your brother mongers.[/QUOTE]OK, alright already, next time I get the clap, no matter where in the world I got it and no matter where in the world I happen to be, I will do my best to contact the establishment concerned.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
[QUOTE=Lama Di Bali]OK, alright already, next time I get the clap, no matter where in the world I got it and no matter where in the world I happen to be, I will do my best to contact the establishment concerned.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.[/QUOTE]
OK...so let's just move on now.