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[QUOTE=Bionicman]Rio definetely is no alcohol, Emperor the same
They just want to avoid somebody gets intoxicated and starts messing around
Not the scene of a sauna.[/QUOTE]
Yes I understand the idea in Rio and thought as well 18 - and somehow prefer the barlike ambiance of East Spa with booze, nigh club like lighting ans sex shows. Thought about that part and felt uneasy with Seamaster report - the part about the 100hkd tip is weird as well, where do you get a banknote from when you walk from the shower to get your shorts ???
Anyway having a good time again in Macau, although for sex I still feel I get the best service from freelancers.
Hit D2 for the firlst time last night, quite fun with a sexy mix of dancers and FLs but one can spend quite a bit on shots with the hostesses. Well over 10k last night with a mate on drinks only and when I left tonight he was going at it again with one of the romanian dancers... considering we ended up bedding overaged south east asian FLs rather than one of the hot dancers that was not a great bargain but at least sex was wild. Hangover was heavy as well, good luck to my mate for his check out and long trip back home tomorrow !
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Besides this visit to D2 most noticeable event this trip happenned with the girls outside the Venetian at 4am. Noticed many times the girls there runing away from the security but nothing serious, and also that many girls are now hanging in and around the City of Dreams. By 4am there were at least 30 girls outside the Venetian and the security was kind of pushing them to street level. We selected two of them and headed inside the hotel where we were renting 2 Rialto suite for a late night party. But the security actually arrested the 2 girls and took them away somewhere in the compound although we insisted on getting them to our rooms?!? Never seen anything like that before... Quite frustrating, but we later picked up two girls from inside The Venetian - and today I moved to a Grand Suite in the MGM - which might well become my hotel of choice in Macau. Posher than Venetian and cool view over the water and bridges to Tampa but I miss the Venetian girls a little...
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[QUOTE=Luis1]...... Thought about that part and felt uneasy with Seamaster report - the part about the 100hkd tip is weird as well, where do you get a banknote from when you walk from the shower to get your shorts ???
[/QUOTE] At Rio you can tip by signing a tip slip with your bracelet number and the tip will be added in your bill at check out.
I used it only when I had a hair cut and the guy insisted I tipped him, in addition to the fee, and was clear on the amount too! It ended up it costed me more than outside, lol
[QUOTE=Luis1] Hangover was heavy as well, good luck to my mate for his check out and long trip back home tomorrow ![/QUOTE] You hit the point too: heavy alcohol is never good for sex (on principle)
The saunas want you to have a good (sex)time. If you get drunk and dont enjoy sex, you might leave as an unsatisfied customer.
[QUOTE=Luis1].... We selected two of them and headed inside the hotel where we were renting 2 Rialto suite for a late night party. But the security actually arrested the 2 girls and took them away somewhere in the compound although we insisted on getting them to our rooms?!? Never seen anything like that before... ...[/QUOTE]
they might have been hardcore girls who gave troubles before...
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[QUOTE=Bionicman]Rio definetely is no alcohol, Emperor the same.
They just want to avoid somebody gets intoxicated and starts messing around
Not the scene of a sauna.[/QUOTE]I've never ordered alcohol at Rio, but at 18 I can confirm that you can definitely order beer. I'm not sure whether it's free or added to your bill though.
I'm glad to see that my fellow mongers are not foolish enough to believe everything they read, but it's a little rude to suspect a report to be fabricated without any personal experience and without any other forum members saying otherwise.
I ordered beer at 18. Everyone else confirmed about alcohol not being allowed at just about every place OTHER than 18. How does that prove that I'm lying? All it proves is that 18 might be different.
As for that comment about how to tip $100 without any banknotes on me after I've stripped down and showered, you've obviously never been to a sauna in Macau, which is fine, but if you're a sauna virgin, don't make false accusations based on your own inexperience. There are more tactful ways to address your concerns.
Thanks, Bionicman, for clearing up the tipping issue for me.
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I can vouch for Seamaster811.
I am a huge fan of 18 Sauna and you can definitely order beer there. I do it all the time. As Luis1 mentioned, it is not in plain sight. But again, do you see Coke or juice in plain sight at 18? No, you have to order it and someone will bring it to you.
18 is a bit of an anomaly in this regard, as most other saunas have a strict no alcohol policy. 18 relaxes the rules a bit so ensure their patrons a more relaxing time. However, they have a very strict no drunks policy too. If managements begins to feel that you've had a bit too much, they will deny you further alcohol. One time I was thirsty and finished 2 beers within half an hour. They denied me a 3rd beer even though I was perfectly fine.
As for whether the price of the beer is included in your bill or not, I'm not sure about that as they never let you have enough to make a significant difference, so I never bothered to ask.
Luis1, I think Seamaster811 may have been offended by your choice of words such as suggesting that Seamaster was "confused" about the avaliability of alcohol at 18 and you feeling "uneasy" with Seamaster's entire report because of it. Perhaps giving other members the benefit of the doubt and directing your concerns to the OP would be better decorum.
My two cents.
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[QUOTE=Luis1]today I moved to a Grand Suite in the MGM - which might well become my hotel of choice in Macau. Posher than Venetian and cool view over the water and bridges to Tampa but I miss the Venetian girls a little...[/QUOTE]
Who would not like the MGM? It is a great hotel with great location, restaurants, and bar. IMHO, it is the best 5* hotel in Macau. The only downside is the price. But if you can afford it, then I say go for it!
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Good to see other members corroborating Seamaster's report. As I know personally one ISG member who writes long and detailed reports about places he has never set a foot in, I become suspicious sometimes...
Was denied beers in Rio and after a couple of visits in 18 I thought it worked the same way, especially that the owner is supposedly the same person. Of those 3 saunas, East Spa would be the place with a very distinct feeling, not 18 - which I hence have visited more often,
As of the 2 girls beeing taken away in The Venetian I also considered they might have caused troubles, but it might as well come from some hotel policy. On my last visit a girl I have been with a few times was inside during daytime. I met her again late at night on the street between The Venetian and City of Dreams where lots of SW are hanging out around that time and it seemed she couldn't enter either. Considering the very few girls present inside The Venetian at that time compared to the many more earlier in the evening, it might come with some special late night policy ??
Dunno but definetely not cool to come in with two girls and see them beeing taken away. One of the girls than showed up at my room at 9.30 in the morning, I guess after the security changed shift - but that was quite a bit late for me welcoming her.
As of the MGM, considering internet is free as well as a lot of drinks in the minibar, the Grand Suite comes at about the same price as the Rialto suite in The Venetian (but with a prepaid booking in MGM), will definetely consider staying here again in the future.
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[QUOTE=Seamaster811]I've never ordered alcohol at Rio, but at 18 I can confirm that you can definitely order beer. I'm not sure whether it's free or added to your bill though.
I'm glad to see that my fellow mongers are not foolish enough to believe everything they read, but it's a little rude to suspect a report to be fabricated without any personal experience and without any other forum members saying otherwise.
I ordered beer at 18. Everyone else confirmed about alcohol not being allowed at just about every place OTHER than 18. How does that prove that I'm lying? All it proves is that 18 might be different.
As for that comment about how to tip $100 without any banknotes on me after I've stripped down and showered, you've obviously never been to a sauna in Macau, which is fine, but if you're a sauna virgin, don't make false accusations based on your own inexperience. There are more tactful ways to address your concerns.
Thanks, Bionicman, for clearing up the tipping issue for me.[/QUOTE]
who is the whole of your message addressed to (apart the clear reference to myself on the last paragraph)?
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[QUOTE=Bionicman]who is the whole of your message addressed to (apart the clear reference to myself on the last paragraph)?[/QUOTE]Looking at the previous posts more carefully, I would have to say Luis1. But it's cool, don't worry about it. I was just in a bad mood after reflecting on my weekend experience with the Lisboa girls so I might have took it the wrong way. I posted a report in the General Information section for anyone who's interested.
To be fair, the first sauna I ever went to was 18, and due to other members' reports about saunas' strict no alcohol policy, I never thought about ordering it. But a Chinese girl chatted me up in the lounge area and asked me if I wanted something to drink "such as Coke or beer". And I was like, "You can drink beer here? " And she said, "Of course! I'll go get it for you. " That's how I found out you can order beer at 18.
I don't know if it was special service on the girl's part because she was trying to get me to order her (which I eventually did, ha ha) or whatever, but in the 3 times I've been to 18 I've never been denied a beer, whether I order it myself or a girl who's out on the prowl gets it for me. Don't know about ordering more though, because I like to stay sober and sharp when banging these knock out models. Drunk sex is for the barely passable freebies you pick up at bars out of desperation!
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[QUOTE=Luis1]Good to see other members corroborating Seamaster's report. As I know personally one ISG member who writes long and detailed reports about places he has never set a foot in, I become suspicious sometimes...
Was denied beers in Rio and after a couple of visits in 18 I thought it worked the same way, especially that the owner is supposedly the same person. Of those 3 saunas, East Spa would be the place with a very distinct feeling, not 18 - which I hence have visited more often,
As of the 2 girls beeing taken away in The Venetian I also considered they might have caused troubles, but it might as well come from some hotel policy. On my last visit a girl I have been with a few times was inside during daytime. I met her again late at night on the street between The Venetian and City of Dreams where lots of SW are hanging out around that time and it seemed she couldn't enter either. Considering the very few girls present inside The Venetian at that time compared to the many more earlier in the evening, it might come with some special late night policy ??
Dunno but definetely not cool to come in with two girls and see them beeing taken away. One of the girls than showed up at my room at 9.30 in the morning, I guess after the security changed shift - but that was quite a bit late for me welcoming her.
As of the MGM, considering internet is free as well as a lot of drinks in the minibar, the Grand Suite comes at about the same price as the Rialto suite in The Venetian (but with a prepaid booking in MGM), will definetely consider staying here again in the future.[/QUOTE]
Man, this barring freelance girls from casinos puts whole night life in macau a bit down...just sheer watching freelance girls makes life come alive...I suspect that some of the folks who own saunas would have hand in it as everything seems to be very controlled in Macau....they wouldn't want their clients going away before entering the saunas..
Its a crazy theory....just looking for someone to blame hehehe :)..Macau is a big place with many casinos...its just a matter of time..when a venue opens up becoming a hot spot for pick and meet freelancers.
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18 and beer
Have not been to 18 in a while, but last time I was there (I think it may have been in February) was offered a beer by a "waiter" dude, but at that time it did cost and came with a "beer girl" who would hang out in your chair while you would drink the beer. Dont remember the cost, think it was something like HKD 200 (including a girl for I guess 10-20 minutes).
The guy was really pitching for the whole beer and a girl thing at the time, got to be pretty annoying towards the end since we were not interested.
This may have been a trial thing (the beer + "beer girl") they were doing at the time since in previous visits before I never witnessed it.
btw: they were offering Heineken at this time I was there :-)
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[QUOTE=Henio]Have not been to 18 in a while, but last time I was there (I think it may have been in February) was offered a beer by a "waiter" dude, but at that time it did cost and came with a "beer girl" who would hang out in your chair while you would drink the beer. Dont remember the cost, think it was something like HKD 200 (including a girl for I guess 10-20 minutes).
The guy was really pitching for the whole beer and a girl thing at the time, got to be pretty annoying towards the end since we were not interested.
This may have been a trial thing (the beer + "beer girl") they were doing at the time since in previous visits before I never witnessed it.
btw: they were offering Heineken at this time I was there :-)[/QUOTE]
This might explain the comments of Seamaster: additional service for a price.
Saunaa in Macau are often pushing for side services (pedicure, manicure, ear massage, head massage...)
So, why not adding a "Beer option with a girl"?
At Rio, last year I noticed a new service: japanese shower. Just off the locker area, before the usual showers, a girl invites you to sit in a cubicle for a 15 minutes handwash performed by the cutie.+
Easy to go for it, and another 170 MOP added to the bill at check out, lol
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[QUOTE=Henio]Have not been to 18 in a while, but last time I was there (I think it may have been in February) was offered a beer by a "waiter" dude, but at that time it did cost and came with a "beer girl" who would hang out in your chair while you would drink the beer. Dont remember the cost, think it was something like HKD 200 (including a girl for I guess 10-20 minutes).
The guy was really pitching for the whole beer and a girl thing at the time, got to be pretty annoying towards the end since we were not interested.
This may have been a trial thing (the beer + "beer girl") they were doing at the time since in previous visits before I never witnessed it.
btw: they were offering Heineken at this time I was there :-)[/QUOTE]So you're saying that if I hadn't taken the girl for a session they would have charged me 200 just for drinking with her? Wow, what a rip!
However, if that's the case, I think the 200 is deducted if you do indeed order the girl because I didn't notice an extra 200 on my bill.
Can anyone else shed some light on this?
In the meantime, I'll only be ordering beer from girls that I want to take for a main course.
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Seamaster, that was an informative report on the Venetian food court girls. Next time I am in Macau, I will have to check out that scene. I love Chinese eye candy.
When I was last in Macau in March, I stopped by the Lisboa racetrack every night for 15 to 20 minutes on my way to MGM Grand or MP3 bar. There is something about seeing attractive Chinese working girls dressed up nice wandering around the mall that is intoxicating. But my experiences were similar to others.
1st night, the girls walked past me and gave me no eye contact. After about 10 minutes of watching the girls walk by as I drank some mango juice I purchased at the fruit store, I stopped one and said hi. She got down to business real quick and asked 1400hk. I smiled and said that was too beaucoup. I told her I knew the real price was 800hk. She said yes, but that was for Chinese men only. You no Chinese. I said damn right! I am an American and is not my money just as good as Chinese man's money. She reiterated 1400hk. I smiled, said no thanks it's your loss, and walked away.
2nd night was more of the same. The girls tried their best to ignore me as they passed by while I drank my mango juice. I just acted like I did not give a damn, and I didn't because I was getting all I needed and then some in the saunas and bars. A funny incident occurred while I was there that night. An old Chinese geezer (he must have been around 70) walked into the arcade. 4 or 5 of the hottest girls literally threw themselves at this 3 pack a day leathered old crocodile. I could not believe it. It was one of the most amazing things I saw on the trip!
3rd day I started to get some looks from a couple of girls and one girl even smiled and approached me. She was not the hottest of the bunch, but she was OK. We talked a little, she gave me the lowdown and then she gave me her quote: 1000hk. Now, if she had been one of the really pretty girls I would have given her a try and I still think it might have been interesting, but instead I politely declined her offer.
My take on this is that the Lisboa girls are very reluctant to get it on with Western men. This attitude is definitely based on prejudice and ignorance. But, if you have the time and the patience the ice will melt. Would it be worthwhile to put in the necessary effort in order to get it on with one of superstar fillies? Maybe, but since there are so many really fine Chinese girls just waiting for handsome western man in the saunas; a racetrack girl's attitude would have do a complete 180 before I would spend my hard earned money and go upstairs with one. Just walk into MP3 bar around midnight. That is the attitude I'm talking about!
Next time, I will give the Venetian girls a look see. I like “B” cups and “A” cups, but I am a real sucker for a pretty face. "C" cups are ok too, but "D's" are too much of a good thing unless the girl is very young, IMHO. One thing we can agree upon: the saunas in Macau are #1.[/QUOTE]I was in Macau back in July and was talking with one of the Lisboa girls. The main reason they are reluctant to have "laowai" (foreigners) customers is because "laowai have diseases". :-)
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[QUOTE=Seamaster811]So you're saying that if I hadn't taken the girl for a session they would have charged me 200 just for drinking with her? Wow, what a rip!
However, if that's the case, I think the 200 is deducted if you do indeed order the girl because I didn't notice an extra 200 on my bill.
Can anyone else shed some light on this?
In the meantime, I'll only be ordering beer from girls that I want to take for a main course.[/QUOTE] Actually I do not remember what the price was, but I do remember thinking "nah, I aint that thirsty for beer" when I heard the price. I do not go much to 18 any more as I think they are a bit overpriced. Every now and then when I have a friend that has never been to a sauna I will take him to 18 just for the sheer volume of girls there, but personally I like the smaller mid price saunas such as Sanado, East, Golden.... There the girls will hang out with the clients casually without you having to buy overpriced beer and your bill at the end of your visit will be something like 40% less....and dont get me started on Rio or Supreme, rip-off prices IMO.
