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[QUOTE=Big Bug]Met with this bird last week. As usual she wanted 800, got her down to 400 and she charged 500 in the room. (I know I put too much money, but she was worth it).

She gave an excellent BJ, nice boody rub, and slow sex. She loved doggy style.
Next day took her for dinner (yes she arrived late 2 hrs & I waited!!!), performance was so so.[/QUOTE]Shit, for that much money I would have done all of that too! The part that gets me is that you said "AS USUAL she wanted 800." You could have gone to one of those model sites and found a high class hooker for half as much. Then you took her to dinner. So you have to add that to the 500 for your total cost. I know I'm beating a dead horse and this is also the photo board, so here is a pic of a R$50 ass licker!

If any of you have been to Bahamas in Sao Paulo, you'd know that quoting $R800 is not out of line there. For short time (40-60 mins), in a room there (which you have to pay for + $R99 entrance fee) will run you minimum of $R300. I seems like all girls want to keep face and don't want to be known to take less than $R300 ST while working at Bahamas. Yet some of them can definitely be had for less during daytime hours when they work at massage places, go figure. That's why I don't go there to f*ck anymore. Most of the girls there have too much plastic surgery for my taste. It does have a PLAYBOY Mansion feel to the place but many of the girls start their quotes at $R500. One night, I asked this super gorgeous girl there why she was all alone in a room full of guys? She looked like the singer Rihanna . . . then I soon found out why . . . she would not take less than $R800 ST! I left her alone.

There are also other outrageously overpriced places in Sao Paulo like W and the W.E. which has the feel of a highpriced social mens club. I think it's also $R800 overnight with their 'staff' satisfaction guaranteed. If you are not happy, supposedly you can complain to the manager and the girl will have to answer for their infraction. I've never used these places myself.

That being said I agree with most of you that this "Vanessa" don't look like she is worth that kind of money. But different strokes for different folks, maybe she looked like a chick back home that BB always wanted to f*ck, who knows. IMHO if the GDP start giving you a laundry list of what she would do for how much money . . . it most likely will lead to a bad session.

But ruining the market for everyone else, I don't think so. It's his money, he should have to right to over-spend. We all have our limits on pricing, just stick to your guns . . . be polite, smile, say "no thanks" and walk away when their quote is not within your budget. You are not forced to pay if you don't want to. The idea is to become an informed customer. I agree 1000% that the price does not necessary guarantee the level of performance. Also factor in how horny and desperate you are at the time! I'd probably pay a bit more if I was on my last night and won't be able to monger anymore back home!

Here's a few from my archive . . .

Ellen pic (I can't find my own candid photo of her) a well-know GDP in Sampa. She can be easily found on the internet. Appeared in Brazilian Playboy + looks exactly like her photos. She had really poorly-done hair extensions which was a minor turn-off and would not kiss on the mouth during my first visit but did later, thank God. ($R250=90mins)

Vison pic, she worked at Bomboa and their short lived, sister boite now a massage place called Vison. GFE all the way, continues to be a good friend.
I see her each time I am in Sao Paulo. ($R250=TLN/16+ hours)

Foto pic, met her at Cafe Photo. She's done amateur porn. Gorgeous natural breasts + braces on her teeth. Photo is of her without any make-up! Most I've ever p4p in Brazil. ($R400=TLN/3-5 hours)

All good experiences, no regrets.

Thanks Homie!!!

I prefer Sampa over Rio and know that the high class places like Bahamas and Photo charge more. Hell, it's supply and demand and the girls are model quality.

Thanks for sharing you informative report. I hope to drop a few reals myself at those establishments in the coming months.

Some of you guys are being too hard on Big Bug, who after all reported honestly on his experiences. Shouldn't such honesty be encouraged?

I now consider myself an experienced monger, but on my first mongering trip to Rio, in fact my first night in Rio several years ago, I made every mistake in the book. I found a beautiful girl at Barbarella's, took one of the ripoff taxis waiting outside to a ripoff love motel somewhere in Copa, and didn't discuss price until we were in the motel room. She asked for R400, which at the 2000 exchange rate was equivalent to US$200. I paid it no questions asked, thinking this was standard for that quality girl from Barbarella's. So my mistake was far worse than Big Bug's. The girl performed quite well, but of course I overpaid. To add insult to injury, I then took another ripoff taxi waiting outside the motel that charged me R20. All in all a very expensive night.

The next afternoon I went to L'uomo for the first time, had two girls just as beautiful as the one in Barbarella's which together cost much less than the girl the night before. It was then that I realized that great pussy could be had for cheap in Rio. Isn't that what life is all about, learning from our mistakes? By the end of that first weeklong trip I had learned my lesson and had internalized what I consider the basic rules of mongering with freelancers:

--RTFF to see what the going rates are;
--do all your negotiating, for both prices and services, before you take the girl out;
--if the girl reneges on the deal when you get to the room, show her the door;
--never take taxis that are waiting outside anywhere, whether it is Barbarella's, Help, or a hotel; you will be ripped off. Walk down the street or around the corner and flag one down.

One more thing: this argument that mongers who "overpay" are spoiling it for others is total bullshit. Guys who make this argument are usually losers who illustrate Oscar Wilde's quip about people who know the price of everything but the value of nothing. I pay a girl what I think the experience with her was worth. If a garota provides me with a world class GFE with no attitude, I will reward her generously, oftentimes well beyond what she agreed on. If this causes somebody else problems, tough! My suggestion is to work hard (probably a totally alien concept to these guys) and increase your net worth, then such things won't be a matter of concern to you.

Since this is the Photo Gallery, I suppose I should post a photo. Unfortunately I've already posted all my garota photos, and the Forum won't let you post a photo twice. So Here's a photo of the view from my room at the Sheraton last August.

Lorenzo

It is good to see that some people are not just here to flame. The cheap charlies are always mad when someone pays more than what they think is right. BB's post just makes all of us remember our first time being a monger virgin. We all did it some just don't want to admit it.

[quote=tiantain]i have always wondered about how good or bad the sex would be with little people. with them being only half the size of an average person, does that mean they would be super tight or would they be the same size as an average women? years ago someone had told me that they saw a little guy peeing, they said he had a large size penis, i do not see how that could be. if anyone has first hand knowledge, inquiring minds would like to know.[/quote]

i have not seen her personally - but only the pics posted here. is she really a "little person" as in a dwarf? she does not seem so in the picture. sure she is short and has some features that you see in dwarf but she at least to me does not like a full blown (no pun intended) dwarf.

[QUOTE=Tom N Jerry527]
I paid only R150, and she wants me to visit her at her house. Probably will not do that. But, she wants to return tonight. She was very good. BBBJ, and greatest GFE in a good while.

As I have had many of these girls tell me, when you over pay, you get a so so performance because they know you have "GRINGO" stamped on you forehead.
T&J[/QUOTE]

I think this is an excellent point you made here. All newbies should read this post over and over again until it's etched into their minds. Whatever your budget and spending habits may be, one has to admit that paying R400 at one time to a gdp is not the same as paying that amount back in '02 and '03 when the real was trading over 3 to 1 against the dollar. That is $200 today (I can only imagine how much he spent on drinks & entrance in that place) and as the above post states you will almost certainly not get a better performance out of her. Just the opposite. This applies not only to Brazil but all over the world as well.

Again, the above point is very important. After all, we all have stories of getting taken to the cleaners as newbies but nobody wants to be widely known as THAT one guy time and time again.

[QUOTE=Big Bug]Met with this bird last week. As usual she wanted 800, got her down to 400 and she charged 500 in the room. (I know I put too much money, but she was worth it).[/QUOTE]Take a mental note of these babes you run into in SP charging an arm and leg. When they come to Rio, the price goes was down. I guess they think if you're rich enough to be hangin' in SP you can afford it.

[QUOTE=Crypton]I have not seen her personally - but only the pics posted here. Is she really a "little person" as in a dwarf? She does not seem so in the picture. Sure she is short and has some features that you see in dwarf but she at least to me does not like a full blown (no pun intended) dwarf.[/QUOTE]I don't think she is a dwarf. I think she is a midget.

[QUOTE=The Corn Hole] After all, we all have stories of getting taken to the cleaners as newbies but nobody wants to be widely known as THAT one guy time and time again.[/QUOTE]
Yes, we all have been newbies at one point in time, and yes, we all do have stories of getting fleeced or worse. Whether some of us admit it or not is another issue. But IMHO, the important thing is: some of us might not even REALIZE we were getting taken to the cleaners until we find out later. How do we find out? Either by ourselves, through our own experience... or because others tell us so. Like on this forum, for example.

Based on the above, and considering that this board is about the exchange of information about sex with women, I do think it is OK to tell someone who posts a picture or pricing information here what we think about it, provided this is done in the form of constructive criticism and in the spirit of helping a fellow monger avoid repeats in the future and ensure he has a better experience.

As a matter of fact, I do appreciate someone like BB posting here, including the details that he posted: the pictures, where he found the girl, how much she initially wanted, what they agreed upon, how much she ultimately wanted, and the overall experience. As a non-newbie monger, this kind of information is important for me for a number of reasons:

Number one, I have never been to Bahamas in Sao Paulo (SP), as a matter of fact, I have never been to SP, but I am sure that I will visit SP at one point in time in the future, and based on the information provided by BB and others on this board, I will make sure NOT to go there. Based on information posted on the Sao Paulo board just recently, Bahamas charges an entrance fee of R$ 123, which includes 0 drinks, and they charge R$ 101 for a room for one hour. A coke is R$ 10.00, a beer R$ 18.00. So provided he took her for an hour there, the R$ 500 that BB paid for the girl (he didn't specify how long) at least cost him R$ 500 + R$ 123 entrance + R$ 101 room = R$ 724, not including any drinks for him or her! So we are up to roughly USD 350.00.

Number two, the pictures help me determine the looks (in my book, of course). Something that is not terribly important for me, as I have stated in the past, as I usually pick chemistry over looks. Yes, I have read that they all have model types at Bahamas... based on BB's picture, I wouldn't say that she was, though, not by a long shot. But that's just me and my humble opinion.

Number three, the performance-related information BB posted is important for me, combined with the pricing info, in that it confirms what I have personally found: high-end prices for less than high-end material (ripoff) usually equals lackluster performance. This was additionally predicted by the fact that she changed her price once they were in the room. Never a good sign.

Short of hitting the jackpot (finding a girl with great looks and fantastic performance who pays me!), I guess that, like all of us mongers, I am trying to find the best price/value ratio. Looking at the individual elements of this, price is a highly relative thing (depending on our individual budgets and time constraints). Value, too: how do we define value in the first place? Looks? Performance? Probably a combination of both, to varying degrees. Others are willing to pay a hefty premium for upscale surroundings and where they do the girls. I don't care. But that's me.

And based on how I personally define this price/value ratio, BB was ripped off big time. Apparently, a lot of people seem to agree.

I don't care whether BB's continues to throw away his money (it is his money after all, and if he has tons to throw out the window, GOOD FOR HIM!), and I agree with Lorenzo in that somebody else's overpaying only affects me marginally (actually, their overpaying and reporting here helps me in avoiding it). I also agree with Lorenzo that yes, we should appreciate someone's honesty, even if they honestly paid way too much.

How? By helping them do it better the next time. Unless they WANT to be labeled a sucker forever. And that's the spirit in which I am writing this.

BTW, the most interesting thing for me was seeing how much Bahamas in Sao Paulo seems to compare to Barbarella in Copacabana in terms of pricing, entrance fees, drink prices (of course, Barbarella has no on-site facilities). So in that respect, BB's post sure helped me stay clear of Bahamas in the future: because for me personally, R$ 400-800 asking price is just plain ridiculous, and I won't pay R$ 141 anywhere in Brazil just to look at girls and have a choppe. Surferr3 will disagree, I am sure, in his "hope to drop a few reals myself at those establishments in the coming months". Why do I have a feeling that your prayers will be heard, Surferr3? With that attitude, my friend, they will love you there :)

But enough of this. Now I am thinking of it, let me apologize for this lengthy diatribe by contributing one more photo, actually of a Barbarella chick I ran into Meia Pataca one evening back in 2004.

EA

You're better off reading the forum 'BEFORE' making a trip.

Donnie D


[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Some of you guys are being too hard on Big Bug, who after all reported honestly on his experiences. Shouldn't such honesty be encouraged?

I now consider myself an experienced monger, but on my first mongering trip to Rio, in fact my first night in Rio several years ago, I made every mistake in the book. I found a beautiful girl at Barbarella's, took one of the ripoff taxis waiting outside to a ripoff love motel somewhere in Copa, and didn't discuss price until we were in the motel room. She asked for R400, which at the 2000 exchange rate was equivalent to US$200. I paid it no questions asked, thinking this was standard for that quality girl from Barbarella's. So my mistake was far worse than Big Bug's. The girl performed quite well, but of course I overpaid. To add insult to injury, I then took another ripoff taxi waiting outside the motel that charged me R20. All in all a very expensive night.
--RTFF to see what the going rates are;
--do all your negotiating, for both prices and services, before you take the girl out;
--if the girl reneges on the deal when you get to the room, show her the door;
--never take taxis that are waiting outside anywhere, whether it is Barbarella's, Help, or a hotel; you will be ripped off. Walk down the street or around the corner and flag one down.

Lorenzo[/QUOTE]

Butt always remember CAVEAT EMPTOR*:

The first foto is Nina's foto in the Karla's Escort Catalogue, the next is her foto in real life (as of JUL '06).

As you might notice that the foto in JUL '06 foto, the breasts are less firm and have fallen a tad. Additionally, the tummie is fatter and looser. Also, the thighs are considerably less firm. However, much to my approval, the pussy was just like it was in the foto. My conclusion is Karla's advertises Nina based on a foto that is maybe 1-3 years old!

She showed up, I did not think that she looked like her foto, but I fucked her anyway!

* for all you non-Catholic high school grads, Caveat emptor = Latin for Buyer beware!

[QUOTE=Kcrl01]

The first foto is Nina's foto in the Karla's Escort Catalogue, the next is her foto in real life (as of JUL '06).

She showed up, I did not think that she looked like her foto, but I fucked her anyway!

[/QUOTE]

If all I saw was the foto in real life, I would have gladly fucked her! lol

In fact, the next time I am in Rio, I will!!!!!

Referring to the r800-r500 prices people are paying in SP. Novembre '05 in Rio right off the beach in Ipanema or from the Agencies I got girls comprable to these r800 ones in this tread for r100-r300 for 1-2hrs varying on the garota and my transaction with no haggling. That was taking them back to my place and getting that wild rio play. If I wanted a pic of them dressed w/mug shot, free. If I wanted the naked body or genital shot w/o face it was free. You can get Russian, Latina or Korean girls that look as good of any of yours in most N. American Citiesfor $400.

This is the photo section. It is for posting photos only. Can we keep all the comments to other sections, the whole "he paid to much" argument just does not belong here.