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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I can confirm there were white ladies available at CM2 recently, don't know if they were russian, assuming they were. Have no idea the cost or such as they are not my thing so didn't even bother to talk to them. But they were most definitely available for the right price whatever that might have been.[/QUOTE]


Probably from Uzbekistan or similar areas, price will be in the region of 5000 baht depending on the quality of the girl and the time of night, price can drop near to closing time.

Orriginally posted by Tulip777

"Japanese pricks throwing 1000b notes around for no apparent reason, or western screw-ups paying them 4000b long time in mediocre places like Nana. I'm not in my 20's or 30's anymore so I have to pay for what I like. But I'm not going to be a dickhead by overpaying, thus making the next trip more difficult and costly for myself and other people."

Dickheads, are you listening?

Amen and thank you for "adding to the chorus" of Thailand/Bangkok mongers who show caring(for fellow mongers), reason and sound judgement in dealing with p4p girls(see my previous post on how to quantify sex in a real-world perspective).

Mongers, there are uncountable fish in the sea in Bangkok/Thailand and p4p Thai girls who will "play ball" when they can see in you eyes that, if they don't "come down to earth" with realistic THAILAND sex pricing, you will take your business five(5)metres away to someone who will.

Everyone wins in this scenario! The cost of living in Thailand is so low that most p4p girls have enough to send home to mum and dad as well as buy cars, live in nice furnished apartments, etc. That extra 1000 Baht you do not give them will not force them to live on the streets!

The travesty of the whole situation is that if you compare what p4p girls in Thailand get for sexual activities figuring the COL(Cost of Living) index, they surpass most of their counterparts in the "much higher cost of living countries" of the world.

Sad, isn't it, so PLEASE, PLEASE be part of the solution and not the problem as the money you will save will be your own!

I wish I could do something about the Japanese, but I can't, so in the interest of not being accused of being a racist, "I will not go there".

Let us educate them to live their p4p lives by the creed that "a little bit of something is better than a lot of nothing".

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Well, 4000 is the stupid quote the mamasan shows on her "rate sheet". It is kind of ridiculous. What is even more ridiculous is that there are people paying these rates. And again, you guys always make the mistake to calculate prices in your home currency. The strength of the baht is no good reason. They buying power of that amount in Thailand is what you should look at.[/QUOTE]

Tiger,

I agree and disagree. I don't like quote/rate sheets. What a turnoff, and of course, the quality of the girls varies from a 4 to an 8 in many of the Go-Go's. Why would someone pay a flat rate. I try to keep it to 3,000 baht or less at Nana. If not, Soi Cowboy has more than enough that are cute enough and would take that price or less. The money exchanged between the guy and girl is their business. Once I pay the barfine, my deal with the house is done. Don't forget guy's, getting phone numbers from the girls at the Soapie's, Oily's, Bars, etc. can get you action for less. Get them on their down time.

I don't agree with the "buying power in Thailand" philosphy. Whether you choose to agree or not, the world is just one big auction. The highest bidders for any type of commodity, wins the prize, so to speak. The other bidders then fight for the next best thing, and so on. The moment you decide to buy your plane ticket, you have accepted that you are going to fully enjoy yourself within whatever budget you have set up for yourself. From that point on, you are in competition with all of the other tourists from Japan, Korea, U.S., Europe, China, Australia, etc.

You are not thinking about the next guy, anymore than he is thinking about you. Yeah, there are those that say take one for the team, think about the other guy, yada yada yada. Next time, ask them what car they bought, what house they bought, what hotel they stayed in, where they ate. Did they think about the other guy in any of those cases? I think not. They paid the asking price and may have negotiated down, but still within the range of what the seller wanted. The seller makes you think you won, but the seller typically got what they wanted.

Peace,
AT2

[QUOTE=TripleX]Wow 4000, I have never been quoted that high for LT, but then again I have never partook in any bar girls from Rainbow. If I was quoted that much though I wouldn't pay it. Since I am from the states and the dollar has fallen so much, 4000 baht is hardly a bargain. It defeats the whole purpose of flying so many miles. I guess it still would be for Europeans.[/QUOTE]

TripleX,

The 4,000 baht may not be a bargain relative to the Thai economy, but you will not find an overnighter in the U.S., Japan, Korea, Europe, etc. for that amount. Most likely, you would need to pay 6,000 baht for an hour or two and 30,000 baht for an overnighter. No one likes the new asking prices, but for most guy's from developed countries, it is still a bargain.

AT2

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]TripleX,

The 4,000 baht may not be a bargain relative to the Thai economy, but you will not find an overnighter in the U.S., Japan, Korea, Europe, etc. for that amount. Most likely, you would need to pay 6,000 baht for an hour or two and 30,000 baht for an overnighter. No one likes the new asking prices, but for most guy's from developed countries, it is still a bargain.

AT2[/QUOTE]


Typical price for an overnighter in the UK is 50,000 baht, think about that next time you are quoted 4000 baht, I am not suggesting you should pay that for every girl.
If you don't mind "Ugly", there are plenty of 1000 baht deals on offer.

[QUOTE=Footloose]Thanks Tulip777 for your experiences. I don't mind asking the girls about anal, but it would be a hit or miss deal. As my time would be limited I wanted more definitive suggestions. Some one suggested MP Tulip where some girls (Yok e.g.,) would allow that. I realize that is under a differnet forum.[/QUOTE]

If you don't want to get 2 girls at Eden, just go there early enough and book one from the anal side for a takeout. Cost is 3000B from 10:00 pm to 6 am. She'll show up at your hotel room on time. Make sure she gives you good vibes when you pick her. And make sure they have a good lineup. That lady at the bar is notorious for picking the girls she wants for the lineup, while better ones are hanging outside or somewhere else. Make her understand that she needs to have a good line up for you and not somebody who had not been picked for a while. That's a sure thing.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]Typical price for an overnighter in the UK is 50,000 baht, think about that next time you are quoted 4000 baht, I am not suggesting you should pay that for every girl.
If you don't mind "Ugly", there are plenty of 1000 baht deals on offer.[/QUOTE]

JRC, how much is an hour long conventional massage in UK these days? I really need to know so I can figure out how much I have to pay for it in Thailand.

Lexb,

Your written "crusade" can continue, however most people will simply ignore it. In the quote below the comment about "Japanese throwing money around" is in the most incorrect, they come to Thailand for cheap sex, there is no point therefore throwing money around. This is a misconception on the part of some farang, who like to go around moaning over prices all the time.

Quite simply, at the end of the day the level of service you get will be related, in some way or other, to the money you are paying. Look at it this way, if someone is employing you at 50$ a day to do something, and your friend is empoyed at 150$ a day to do the same thing elsewhere, then who has the incentive to work hard and do a good job ?

The girls will also react in the same way, and its often why some men complain that this girls is bad, whilst others will say she is wonderful. This also relates of course to the mans looks, cleanliness, attitude etc.. as well.

If a girl is forced to accept a low rate of money for sex, then sex is all you will get in the most. There will not be anything else apart from functionary sex. Now if that is all you want, then fine, carry on.

If you want good service, if you want her to try hard to offer you a wonderful time such that she wants to try and see you again, your going to have to make her feel good, and that means a better offer.

Now, whilst I agree that people should not "overpay", there is also no need to be a tight ass and constantly "underpay" and for which you'll likely get bad service.

P4P is not just about cumming, you can wank for free. Its about paying for an experience. My experience I pay for should be "special". It should be in a nice enviroment, in a friendly atmosphere and with the girl performing well, and enjoying it (as far as can be) too. I am not going to get that everytime for 1000 Baht, so I am flexible in my payment, it can be from Free to up to 3000 Baht for LT. Most girls happily accept 1500 to 2000 for LT. Some require a little more. Now whilst it is possible to scour around and find someone to go LT for 1000B - that would take me too much time, too much effort and not be part of my wanting a nice overall experience. I do not consider plying the streets of Bangkok at 2am and 3am looking for a cheap fuck as "nice". I'd rather pay a few more baht earlier in the evening, and have a nice evening and morning with a pleasant girl who is not rushing to get out of the door and leave.

But as I say, its each to their own. Some people just want their cock inside a girl and cum, they do not care what she looks like, how she feels etc... these tend to be very selfish people, willing to spend thousands on themselves, but who want others to give to them for virtually nothing. Some people like the middle road, good price, good time. Some people like the high end stuff, as they think the more they pay the better it is.

Therefore, you should consider you are representing just your opinions, and whilst you may see them as valid, others may not. You should not really go around calling people "dickheads" just cause what you think they do is wrong.

Life is to be enjoyed, you might be dead tomorrow, and for all the 50 Bahts you save today, you cannot take them with you when you die.

I'd rather die very happy and poor having fucked 5000 girls, than a miserable twat and rich :)


[QUOTE=Lexb]Orriginally posted by Tulip777

"Japanese pricks throwing 1000b notes around for no apparent reason, or western screw-ups paying them 4000b long time in mediocre places like Nana. I'm not in my 20's or 30's anymore so I have to pay for what I like. But I'm not going to be a dickhead by overpaying, thus making the next trip more difficult and costly for myself and other people."

Dickheads, are you listening?

Amen and thank you for "adding to the chorus" of Thailand/Bangkok mongers who show caring(for fellow mongers), reason and sound judgement in dealing with p4p girls(see my previous post on how to quantify sex in a real-world perspective).

Mongers, there are uncountable fish in the sea in Bangkok/Thailand and p4p Thai girls who will "play ball" when they can see in you eyes that, if they don't "come down to earth" with realistic THAILAND sex pricing, you will take your business five(5)metres away to someone who will.

Everyone wins in this scenario! The cost of living in Thailand is so low that most p4p girls have enough to send home to mum and dad as well as buy cars, live in nice furnished apartments, etc. That extra 1000 Baht you do not give them will not force them to live on the streets!

The travesty of the whole situation is that if you compare what p4p girls in Thailand get for sexual activities figuring the COL(Cost of Living) index, they surpass most of their counterparts in the "much higher cost of living countries" of the world.

Sad, isn't it, so PLEASE, PLEASE be part of the solution and not the problem as the money you will save will be your own!

I wish I could do something about the Japanese, but I can't, so in the interest of not being accused of being a racist, "I will not go there".

Let us educate them to live their p4p lives by the creed that "a little bit of something is better than a lot of nothing".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tulip777]JRC, how much is an hour long conventional massage in UK these days? I really need to know so I can figure out how much I have to pay for it in Thailand.[/QUOTE]


Never had a "conventional massage" so I wouldn't know, one hour with sex would be about 10,000 baht, slightly less if you shop around.

I am traveling to Bangkok in a month and have a few questions. Do may of these clubs test for std's? Which clubs have the hottest chicks, price isn't that big of a concern? What are people's thoughts on Pat-Pong. A co-worker of mine enjoys going there when in-town. He says that there are a ton of extremely hot chicks, many with big fake boobs. His only complaint is about being hassled for extra money for beer and minor things like that.

Any information would be appreciated.

It was two long flights from Seattle to Bangkok the other night. About 20+ hours with the stop in Tokyo. Unfortunately the pathetic NWA entertainment system included a badly edited version of "The Beach. " Get me off of this plane. Ever drink snake blood?

Arrived to a long line at Thai Immigration. No problem. The woman let me not use my tourist visa, instead she stamped me in for 30 days as I'm heading to Macau soon (I know, strange syntax here). Quickly caught a cab on the 4th floor (departures) and rolled into Bangkok. Smooth sailing at 1 AM. Arrived at Livingstone's Lodge. Tired, but very happy to be there. Changed my shirt and went downstairs to the bar. Then the fun began.

Started chatting with two girls and ended up BF'ing them and sending a bottle of champagne up to my room. We went out to eat first to a sidewalk seafood place up Suk a few kilometers. Man it was good to be out of the cold, sterile place called America and sitting happily with two Thai lovelies eating pla muk.

Back to the room, drank a bit. Relaxed a bit. Had a little fun. Slept very well. One of the girls left early in the morning. The champagne did not agree with her. The other one stayed and I must say that a real pro sure can make a man feel good! I'm not much for the detailed kiss lick and tell.

The night of the first day, the three of us had a poolside dinner at Livingstone's.- great food and incredible ambiance. Crashed early last night. The time change and jet lag finally got the better of me. But today. Fresh and ready to go again. Even got to see the Pats beat the Chargers on ESPN at 5am. Ah Thailand. Gotta love it!

Snake blood? Not me!

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]TripleX,

The 4,000 baht may not be a bargain relative to the Thai economy, but you will not find an overnighter in the U.S., Japan, Korea, Europe, etc. for that amount. Most likely, you would need to pay 6,000 baht for an hour or two and 30,000 baht for an overnighter. No one likes the new asking prices, but for most guy's from developed countries, it is still a bargain.

AT2[/QUOTE]Yeah I agree, it still is a bargain for overnight in U. S. But maybe not after considering travel expenses. However you can get better prices than your quoting for ST in U. S. About $120(less than 6, 000 baht) all over Los Angeles or if convenient just head down to Mexico. Well no big deal anyways on the prices. There are always complaints about them but it didn't hurt me too badly on my last trip. I was just patient and turned down some chicks I really wanted to get with only to find even hotter ones later for lower prices. The highest I think I heard was 3, 000 baht though which was from a beer girl at Nana. The highest bar fine I was quoted was 1, 000 baht at coyote bar in Pattaya. I was gonna go back to Coyote at 1 am to get this girl there, who was so cute, because the bf was supposed to drop back down to 600. But then while I was waiting I found an equally cute girl for way less. I wound up spending the rest of my time in Pattaya with her.

[QUOTE=Member #1848]I am traveling to Bangkok in a month and have a few questions. Do may of these clubs test for std's? Which clubs have the hottest chicks, price isn't that big of a concern? What are people's thoughts on Pat-Pong. A co-worker of mine enjoys going there when in-town. He says that there are a ton of extremely hot chicks, many with big fake boobs. His only complaint is about being hassled for extra money for beer and minor things like that.

Any information would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
1848, all your questions have been asked, answered, and asked again.
Invest 2 hours, grab a pen, start reading in several of the threads, and you will have wayyyy more information than the answer to 3 or 4 questions you asked. Dive in and enjoy. Or as some are fond of saying, RTFF.

[QUOTE=Member #1848]I am traveling to Bangkok in a month and have a few questions. Do may of these clubs test for std's? Which clubs have the hottest chicks, price isn't that big of a concern? What are people's thoughts on Pat-Pong. A co-worker of mine enjoys going there when in-town. He says that there are a ton of extremely hot chicks, many with big fake boobs. His only complaint is about being hassled for extra money for beer and minor things like that.

Any information would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I don't know about the clubs requiring testing but I have been with a couple of girls who did it of their own accord. I went with them when they got tested. If you stay with one girl for a while there and are worried about it, you could suggest she get tested and go with her yourself. Could make for a much more enjoyable trip. I would sacrifice variety for a little peace of mind.

I hate Pat-Pong, mainly because of a really bad experience I had pulling two girls from Pat-Pong for a threesome. They seemed really friendly and playful with each other so I thought it was going to be a really good session. It was horrible, their attitude did a 180 as soon as I barfined them and they took every oppurtunity to try and wrangle more money from me. I stuck to my price and powered through the session but it really sucked. Now I associate Pat-Pong with crappy tourist trinkets and scams. I am sure it is probably okay but I haven't gone back and haven't missed it.

Sorry for the noob question, but I've spent an hour searching the forum and haven't really found any info on this subject. What are the best short time bars in Bangkok? Are there any said short time bars that are open in the afternoon? I hate to compare BKK to Pattaya yet again, but in Patters there's a great short time bar on Soi 3 called the Welkom Inn that's open during the day and offers punters loads of stunners at 1000 baht short time on the premises. Jade also offers the same. And of course there's Soi 6 - where there are about 50 short time bars open from midday until late at night - 1000 baht for short time (including barfine).

So are there any places like these in Bangkok? I'm sure there are, but from my searching the only one I've found any info on is Biergarden. Are there any others? Thanks!