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[QUOTE=Sex Quest]Listen Guys I was scammed at Van Kampen Today. Now I can see that "attitude problem" that some have reported on their experiences at VK on this forum and the importance of reading reports before venturing into unkown territory.

I chose a new cute skinny girl called Nikita (German). She kept on adding extras over the regular fee of 80 euros and then less than 15 minutes into the 30 minute session, she told me that I was too big, and that she was tired and that she can only finish me by hand, irrespective of the deal we had.

I politely refused a few times, she nervously left the room, brought in the manager and another WG that spoke english and I was politely told, either to end the session with a hand job with Nikita, pay for another session with another girl, or leave. All attempts at having a refund or continuing the session as previously agreed was refused.

Turned off, I left for another experience elsewhere. I fly back home after in less than a week, dunno if calling the police will help in these situations, but I doubt it.

I know YMMV at VK but this is just the problem that I would like to avoid.[/QUOTE]

Sorry to hear that you got scamed at VK. But in a way it does not surprise me. I have been unimpressed by how I was treated at VK for some time now. I do not think that they care much for the tourist/non German speaking trade at this establishment. The very least they could have done is to give you back the cash for the unperformed "extras" IMO-and their portion of the fee. But I guess they don't care about repeat business from "auslanders".

I would say though that there is not much to do now except what you have done i.e. write a report here and let us know. And of course do not return to said establishment in the future.

If you are ever back this way drop me a line and I will point you towards some girls in other bordellos who provide good service.

Sternchen LAST WEEK. NO GOOD!

I quite liked the look of their website and previous reports on this forum were not unpromising, so I took myself off to the East side last week for a session.

Never again!

The building is in a grubby street, with a burned out car outside the front door. The entrance is grimy, with no proper signage or doorbell. I had already blown out at a couple of other places earleir in the afternoon, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to go in. The entrance foyer of the appartment was milling with people, a few of the girls and a couple of blokes who probably work there. Not at all discreet. I had called in advance to establish that a certain girl was on duty that afternoon. Christina, and was assured that she was.

The Hausmutti showed me into one of their rooms, an unattractively furnished and somewhat dingy room that was a clear step down from the Charlottenberg appartments that I have become accustomed to. 3 girls appeared. All viciously ugly. Nevertheless, I chose the one who called herself Christina, although she bore no resemblance to the girl of that name on the website. She was a dumpy thing in a basque, big tits but a sullen round face and unfriendly demeanour. She quoted 50E for a basic session of 1/2 hour. When I enquired as to extras such as FO (specifically offered on the webpage), she said she didn't do that. That was enough for me. I left promptly and went back to Monrouge for another session with the delectable Jasmin.

I felt like I was back in the UK in some filthy crack-***** den up north. In short, there is no reason for anyone to waste their money at Sternchen when there are so many better clubs in town. Even if I just caught them on a bad day, I would never again bother to traipse across town on the off chance that they have cleaned up their act. I suggest that you don't either.

Cheers

Charlie

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A number of places offer 'Duette' or 'Lesbische Duette'.

Does anybody have any experience?

This term encompasses a range of possibilities to my mind:

1) Do the girls fully make out - cunni etc, or does one spend 30 minutes sitting in one's socks and pants watching a couple of bints petting and faking sex?

2) Is it part of the service (and included in the price) that the punter gets to enjoy the girls during/after the scene, or is this supposed to be a visual experience only?

3) My German is adequate+, but I don't know the trade venacular for a full 3-person sex scene - does anybody know the correct terminology (assuming that 'duette' doesn't cover it)

4) I know that The Hautnah girls can be booked as pairs, but they don't really do the lezzie stuff, it's more of a 2-on-1 scene (and they're on holiday now anyway). Has anyone here got any specific recent 'duettes' to report/recommend?

Thx

Charlie

I also went to Liberty's last week and found it to be a good place with a nice line-up. I was offered a few girls, perhaps 5, and chose Denise

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/denise2.htm[/url]

She is a pretty girl with a real good figure - nice large tits and a firm body. She speaks with a slight lisp, but not so as to put one off the business at hand. Her English is respectable, but my German is better, so we spoke in German. I selected 40 minutes and FT (BBBJcim) - I can't remember the price but it was about 130E from memory.

Anyway, turns out she doesn't really do FO after all - her idea of a blow job seems to be a hand-job executed in the vicinity of her mouth with the occasional flick of her tongue. I found this to be a real turn-off and quickly started to lose my stiffy. We tried straight-sex, but by now I had lost my enthusiasm and my erection, so I just quit.

She is friendly enough and probably a nice fuck, but this is not a girl to choose if you are into 'extras'.

I would go to Liberty's again, I'm sure, but next time I'll make sure to choose a dirtier girl - this one wasn't for me at all

Cheers,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Anyway, turns out she doesn't really do FO after all - her idea of a blow job seems to be a hand-job executed in the vicinity of her mouth with the occasional flick of her tongue. I found this to be a real turn-off and quickly started to lose my stiffy. We tried straight-sex, but by now I had lost my enthusiasm and my erection, so I just quit.[/QUOTE]
... is [i]Fransoezisch Ohne mit Handeinsatz[/i].

Did you ask her to stop the [i]Handeinsatz[/i] part? Some women will accept suggestions. Some of them won't.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]A number of places offer 'Duette' or 'Lesbische Duette'.

Does anybody have any experience?

This term encompasses a range of possibilities to my mind:

1) Do the girls fully make out - cunni etc, or does one spend 30 minutes sitting in one's socks and pants watching a couple of bints petting and faking sex?

2) Is it part of the service (and included in the price) that the punter gets to enjoy the girls during/after the scene, or is this supposed to be a visual experience only?

3) My German is adequate+, but I don't know the trade venacular for a full 3-person sex scene - does anybody know the correct terminology (assuming that 'duette' doesn't cover it)

4) I know that The Hautnah girls can be booked as pairs, but they don't really do the lezzie stuff, it's more of a 2-on-1 scene (and they're on holiday now anyway). Has anyone here got any specific recent 'duettes' to report/recommend?

Thx

Charlie[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Sorry, no direct experience with duos here in Berlin so all I can do is answer in general terms.

Duos are probably one of the greatest fantasies and often, when realized, the greatest disappointments. I have experienced several over the years and only one stands out. That was with two university students who were offering the service to supplement income out of their dorm room. They were in fact lovers but were bi (well-one was more bi than the other actually) and it was fantastic.

Now a days, as my fantasy has been realized, I would not look for this service. Though if the right opportunity came along...

I would say that unless you have specific fore knowledge that the girls will be interactive with you and with each other it is pretty much a crap shoot as to whether things will go the way you want them to.

My feeling is, if you really want to experience this, that you should call Kamila Dee's and speak with the Hausmutti about what it is exactly that you want and and if they have a pair of girls that can satisfy your needs. I am sure that you can find someone there that speaks English well enough to get what you want across.

But it will cost you I am sure.

I know that there is a very tasty duo team at KD's (Nicole& Mia) but I have no knowledge about what is exactly that they do or how is the service. Unfortunately they do not work regularly (which can be a good sign IME) or often.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm[/url]

If you do see them please, please do write a report.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,

Duos are probably one of the greatest fantasies and often, when realized, the greatest disappointments. I have experienced several over the years and only one stands out. That was with two university students who were offering the service to supplement income out of their dorm room. They were in fact lovers but were bi (well-one was more bi than the other actually) and it was fantastic.[/QUOTE]I am also thinking about whether I should pursue this fantasy. I haven't yet. My first impression is that it would be kind of confusing more than anything else. Then upon further research, I understand that the experience would definitely be better if the girls were bi and therefore into each other. If not, then things can get a bit awkward.

I'll probably try this sometime in Montreal if I'm up to it.

Angus

Thanx for your response.

I have had some experience with threesomes in the past. 2 of my previous girlfriends were also into girls, and I had a number of sessions in my teens and then in my thirties with a girlfriend and a buddy. On occasions it was a terrific experience, but I agree that in general it can be a hit-and-miss affair.

KD, as you pointed out in your excellent recent dissertation on Berlin Bordells, is a 'Franzosich safe' establishment only, which rules out that venue for me.

Perhaps I'll try and organise something via one of the girls I see at Monrouge or Liberty's - I'll post a report once the deed is done

Cheers,

Charlie

I just returned from a long weekend trip to Berlin and was able to stop at a couple of places while I was there. Thanks to the info on this board, I was able to feel confident that I wouldn't go wrong with either of these places. Thanks to all who have posted.

The first place I went was Tantrazentrum Massage. I saw Katharina. She is very cute and has a good body. She isn't skinny, but I would certainly not call her big. She just has a good body. Her English is not great, but we could communicate. I had an 1-3/4 hour appt.

This place to me is first class (or I am easily impressed). It is very clean, I had a fresh robe and towels available when I showered, and the masage bed was even heated. It felt great after taking a shower to lay down on a nice warm bed. Katharina gave a very thorough massage mostly with her hands and arms, but occassionally used her body. She kept clothes on most of the time except during body-to-body portions. I didn't try to touch her at all. I was just along for the ride. I know many people say this is a steep price to pay for what essentially amounts to a HJ, but the massage was exceptional and I left feeling great. I can't really complain. I recommend this place and if you go on a Sunday the rates are discounted.

The next day I went to Salon Prestige. I had to walk around a little to see the sign that showed where it was. Just keep your eye out and it's easy after that. I was sat down in a room and the girls came in one-by-one to introduce themselves. There were four to choose from. I picked Michelle and paid my 60 euros for the half hour.

Michelle was a medium height blonde girl. She was on the slim side and looked fairly young. Very cute face. You can see her body pics on the website. Her English was pretty good and we had no problem talking. The room was clean and I was offered some mineral water before the session.

I won't go into details on this session because I went there after essentially walking the city all day and was super tired. Michelle did wonderfully, but I wasn't completely up to the task. I did what I needed to though and left happy. I think she is worth a visit.

Well that's my trip. This is my first post, so my apologies if I didn't include enough details. If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

Thanks again for all your help.

Hi,

I just wondering if there are pick-up bars in Berlin, like they have in Asia (e.g. Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur, or Manhattan in Shanghai or Ipanema in Singapore). I don't want to go to a brothel or a sauna club. I need the feeling that I meet a girl occasionally while drinking beer.

You could give Cafe Pssst! a try. Sorry, no recent reports as far as I know. And the web page is annoying (to say the least) and fairly uninformative.

I think the price for taking a girl to a room is 125€/hr. and I imagine that it would be hard to get away without buying a few drinks for her as well so that pushes the cost up...

Have fun and don't forget to write a report.

Hello all,

I finally got around to taking the plunge and getting a membership since I'm now going to be travelling to Europe more often. I'm going to Berlin in September for a little R&R and looking for a hotel recommendation. Since I want to get around via public transportation I'm hoping someone can recommend a good, 3 star hotel that it is OK to bring girls to (in case that is the way I end up going).

I have searched through the board but not sure if cars are required at the hotels listed. Any help would be appreciated and reports to follow.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]You could give Cafe Pssst! a try. Sorry, no recent reports as far as I know. And the web page is annoying (to say the least) and fairly uninformative.

I think the price for taking a girl to a room is 125€/hr. and I imagine that it would be hard to get away without buying a few drinks for her as well so that pushes the cost up...

Have fun and don't forget to write a report.[/QUOTE]
.. who wants to know about this place too.

I've read about it since forever but have never had the chance to visit.

From all descriptions it is set up like a pick up bar but not a regular bar with alcoholic drinks, instead as a milk bar (?). Can this be true?

No, I don't believe you milk the women.

Here is the website:

[url]http://www.cafe-pssst.de[/url]

According to RF reports, the women are supposedly non-pros who have 9-5 jobs and do this on the side. However, the posters doubt that this is really the case. The women do a bit of marketing, they say.

Three other Berlin addresses which are worthwhile trying (according to the RF):

a) The bar at the Crown Plaza hotel,
b) Diagonally cross from the Hilton at Gendarmenmarkt is the Newton Bar,
c) The Hotel Estrell also has a bar and nightclub

Tip a) is unconfirmed. Postings on the other two read like they are more certain.

At c) there are very nice looking younger women who don't look like pros but once you have a conversation with them they will come very quickly to the point.

[QUOTE=Jackyo].. who wants to know about this place too.

I've read about it since forever but have never had the chance to visit.

From all descriptions it is set up like a pick up bar but not a regular bar with alcoholic drinks, instead as a milk bar (?). Can this be true?

No, I don't believe you milk the women.

Here is the website:

[url]http://www.cafe-pssst.de[/url]

According to RF reports, the women are supposedly non-pros who have 9-5 jobs and do this on the side. However, the posters doubt that this is really the case. The women do a bit of marketing, he said.

Three other Berlin addresses which are worthwhile trying (according to the RF):

a) The bar at the Crown Plaza hotel,
b) Across from the Hilton at Gendarmenmarkt is the Newton Bar,
c) The Hotel Estrell also has a bar

Tip a) is unconfirmed. Postings on the other two read like they are more certain.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for including the link. I forgot.

When I first moved here to Berlin I lived very close to Cafe Pssst. At the time I had very little money so such places were not an option for me. But I did pass by often in the evening and was always kind of curious about the place. I often saw some pretty attractive ladies going inside and it does indeed look just like a normal neighborhood bar. So I am quite curious to see an up to date report.

But I really do suspect that it would be a bit over priced. I guess the one advantage (IMO) it would have is the "pick-up" scenario/fantasy. I guess that there is something in that....

Angus and Jackyo,

Thanks for your answers! Today I had no chance due to custumer reqirements.

The Pssst is probably not my target.

Crown Plaza (on Nürnberger Strasse?) I tried before without result.

Estrell is the big conf centre in the east?

Probably tomorrow I go to Newton on Gendarmen market.

Yeah, I report on success!