Online Shopping. Seeking advice from the gents of ISG
It's a relatively new phenomenon this, the act of procuring Thai girls for sex through virtual means. I've never been a fan or a practitioner, but with the recent posts by Siamsin, Eihtooms and others, I'm beginning to wonder. I looked through the pages of the venerable ISG, and I have not found a robust discussion of this facet of mongering in LOS (plenty of very useful reports, but not really a pros-and-cons kinds of discussion), and so I am hoping to get some insights from you all.
I may be wrong, but I think this wave of online activity of finding freelancers has really come into its own in the last 2 years. It was around before, sure, probably since 2010 or so, but it really wasn't a major thing. In the last 2 years, I think a lot of girls have developed a presence on some of the major apps, they all make use of Line, and they make a good side hustle out of it. And so where the gazelles migrate, so go the lions. For example, reports such as this abound here at ISG:
[QUOTE=Breadman;2290651]Been having a very good success rate getting LINE ID's from Thai Friendly[/QUOTE]But for me, I have always been hesitant to go that route for two major reasons. I would appreciate any thoughts you have on these reasons, and whether I am being overly cautious. Or am I right in avoiding the online hustle?
To make this work, I need to set up a dichotomy, which is undoubtedly false, but let's do it anyway. Let's just assume, for the sake of this discussion, that there are two kinds of mongers in LOS: the [I]Traditional Monger[/I] (TM) and the [I]Online Monger[/I] (OM). It should be said that I am imagining this from a visitor's perspective, not an expat's perspective. For the expat, I think being both an OM and a TM makes a whole lot of sense. But it's the traveling monger that I am considering.
[U]The TM[/U] is the guy who operates as mongers have since the invention of the pussy and cock: they arrive in LOS, they go to a gogo bar, club, Suk soi 4, soapy, massage parlor, etc. , find a cutie that rings their bell, boinks said cutie, pays up and saunters off in search of noodles and a beer. You know, the regular thing.
[U]The OM[/U], on the other hand, is the guy who starts early (weeks, months before arrival in LOS), cultivating individual avatars on various sites in preparation for arrival in LOS. They are avatars at this point because all you know about them is what they construct online for you to see, so they are not the real thing. They are a virtual representation of something real. Upon arrival, the OM calls in the chips from those avatars one by one, and slowly works down his list of preferred options. When the avatar transforms into a real human being (they meet in real life), the OM has to either follow through with sex+money, or find an elegant way to bail. And if bail is the option, he needs to go down the list of avatars until he finds the right human being. Not to mention individual names here at ISG, but I think we can all identify those that fit into one model or the other. There are, of course, many who do both, and I think this latter group are the ones who can probably respond to this query the best.
So with that typology of mongers established, here are the reasons I hesitate to make the shift from TM to OM (or a mix of the two).
Reason 1: Hassle.
Reason 2: Online shopping.
[B]Hassle[/B]
From all I have read about how to make the Thai Friendly or Thai Cupid (or whatever) route work, it seems like you need to put in a lot of work. You need to have a reasonable profile, carefully worded to make clear what you want, and then you have to spend time trolling through dozens of profiles. It sounds like you get lots and lots of hits, and the key to making this plan work is to sift through all the pebbles and find the emeralds hiding within.
Even then, once you find a few of those emeralds, you need to cultivate them. You need to strike up conversations, and get a feel for each one of them, and then make arrangements.
Eihtooms, Siamsin and others have given really nice descriptions of how to do this, and to you all I am indebted.
So the thing about all that is that it sounds like a monumental time commitment. It sounds like a tedious process, fraught with potential pitfalls, and it just seems like an inefficient way to procure what is freely available otherwise. I'm not averse to hard work, quite the contrary. But I am averse to inefficient work, which is what this strikes me as. Can anyone dissuade me of that impression? Am I missing something?
[B]Online Shopping[/B]
Remember when no one believed Amazon would work? When everyone was skeptical that people would buy anything online other than books? Now, in 2019, I buy all kinds of shit online, but I only buy things that don't need personal assessment: books, hair gel, Go Pro cameras, cereal, etc. I buy clothes and shoes, but only from brands that I know will fit me. Size 9 shoes from one brand is not the same as size 9 shoes from another. And if you want to try something new, you really need to try it on in person. Alternatively, you can buy something new online, knowing that you may well have to create shipping labels, make the trip to the UPS store and send it back for a refund. Translation: hassle.
So with girls, when I pick up girls in LOS, whether in a gogo bar, a soapie, a night club or off the street, I'm not looking for a vagina. They all have vaginas, so that is a given. What differentiates vagina 1 from vagina 2 are all accoutrements: shape of her legs, hips-to-waist ratio, flab on the belly, liveliness of her skin tone, the bounce in her gait, quality of her finger nails, etc. These are the kinds of things one cannot gauge online, since they are issues of personal fit. The analogy seems absurd now, but it's like a size 9 shoe: not all size 9 shoes fit me properly.
How does one figure out all those other things when interacting with a carefully manicured avatar? How can I tell if the details of her physique will live up to my needs? Perhaps I am being too picky, but that's my concern.
So TM I am, no question about it. But reading the posts on ISG (especially the recent ones), it seems like I might be missing something very substantial with the online scene. Guys, help get this luddite up to speed, please. I have less than two weeks before I hit the dirty streets of Sukhumvit. Should I take the plunge with online mongering options, or should I hold steady to my old ways?
Traditional vs Social Media hook ups.
The recent posts on social media hookups versus traditional hook ups are interesting. In what follows, I realise there's also a lot of potential overlap too, especially referring to the social apps discussed.
I suppose I see three prongs to hooking up as a visitor.
First the traditional methods such as Gogos, BJ bars, FL locations street, Thermae and so on.
Second, social apps which are overtly used by girls offering services, such as wechat, which I've used before successfully, etc. You find someone, agree a price and service and they come over for an agreed time. I like this method especially as I don't like the crap and loud music in GoGos and their like, plus the idea of Bfs. Yes, I'm not in my 20 or 30's so this (loud bars) is now a factor for me.
Third, traditional dating apps such as Thai Cupid. These can possibly throw up a free lay with everything going well age, looks, game, rapport etc. But even then who's to know if a date isn't really partly gaming and going to expect some remuneration (even if it isn't asked for haven't folks here said they'd slip some baht into her purse to help out with the buffalo or whatever)?
If one is prepared to invest a lot of time (and maybe a few dating site subs) to groom the sweet popsies, which, ultimately, could be a blow out, why not save all this time and effort by just going route 1 if bars and traditional set ups are your thing (and who can say there's not a thrill for the occasional monger playing this game in the social environment?) Or route 2 and just select at the moment of need from wechat or similar location based services?
I can see that nurturing a contact over several days or weeks before contact can pay off, especially if she offers it up for free, and then becomes available for return visits when you're in town. What could be better, I'd say.
After all this, I still have come down hard in one category. I can forecast for my next visit to BKK my strategy will fall between route 1 and route 2.
Online Shopping for Thai girls
Hi guys.
I think everyone will have different opinions regarding this topic. I have been using one form or another of online apps and in the earlier days, 2000 to 2008 chat rooms to procure sex in Asian countries. Particularly in Indonesia where I didn't have time to go to clubs to find girls due to being with my wife. Back to the present regarding Thailand TF has a place in our hobby now. In my last 3 trips I have used it as well as beer bars and gogos to find partners. Where TF is handy is that if you are in your room say at 10 am and feel like a fuck you can have one there in 1/2 hour. Now we all know the downfall to online shopping is old pics and picture enhancing apps, so always video call before you seal the deal. If they don't want a call be wary and go to the next profile.
Earlier this month my brother secured about 12 girls from TF and I saw about 8 of them and they were all between 7 to 9's. He did try to pre book some before he arrived but was either ignored or told to contact when in Pattaya and when he did most came either within the hour or at the agreed time. Looking at it from a girls point of view why work stupid hours in a bar or gogo or stand for so many hours on Beach Road when you can be in the comfort of your own home or doing what needs to be done and still be capable of earning money.
The positive I have gotten out of it is meeting girls who are part time and in 1 occasion not P4 P and getting the real GFE.
I think as time goes by the cleverer girls will be doing more online and you will find that it will be the newer girls or girls indebted that will be working in the bars and gogos.
