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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1395718]- What are the techniques that work best to convert and flirty chat long-distance to a steamy session in the hotel room? I assume that some of the girls are non-pros and being too forward may scare them off. I'm not sure if Pinays are used to first-date sex.[/QUOTE]You have been given the answer to this question several times both explicitly and through other posts.

Be upfront about what you want and expect but in a non-crude manner.

Use euphemisms but make them clear. If you "scare off" half or even 90% of them then you have saved yourself a heap of time and trouble.

The very last thing you want to do is to meet a very beautiful and sexy woman, spend 1 or 2 hours eating and drinking with her, and then find out that she is totally untouchable. You will have a very pleasant time etc but a few hours later you will realise that you have squandered valuable time for nought all because you didn't want to "scare her off".

I have followed you upon your arrival and your look for top noche girls. You don't find them in DIA that is my nr one. Second I will please advice you not to make many girls meet you at one time. I don't know how you are build but many of these girls are realy pore and don't live exactly where they state to live so even 100piso in their life is a big spending and even money they don't have. I have had girls claiming they did in fact have to borrow 200piso to come meet me from friends (for most of us this is a laugh but reality in shit poor Phils it is true).

So if you meet many girls at one time please give them money for transport back (those you don't like). Transport in Manila area can be rather timeconsuming as logistics don't work as we are used to in western europe / north america. Girls they live in Laguna and Lavite and still claims it is in Manila but in reality it is not. It is far away (atleast if you don't have helicopter).

The top 9-10 girls you will not find inside DIA or any other dating site (you want the best of the best) simply bcs they don't have to join datingsites to have nice living. But yet again I find your postings, as I followed bcs me and you are a bit the same in what we want, somewhat difficult to answer good even if I want to. Simply bcs I don't know what you exact want. Just please let me once more advice you, as I have used various datingsites for 7yrs or more, you will never ever find top top girls here. Then you have to use your own looks, behaviour and contacts to achieve girls like that (or ofcourse go hi so like G clubs, hi so escorts and so on).

But good luck. Wish you all the best.

Some can allways arrest me in saying this as I have quite a fleet of regular girls(none p4p and I know some ISG memebers dont like we meet normal girls as well through normal mechanisms - dont bother) met through also datingsites but i would not state them as as the best of the best - good looking maby 9 and some 10 but it is up to the beholder of eyes(some people dont like what you write will allways try to make you look bad)..

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1395771]I do like a sprinkle of GFE, so will invest in DIA. In spite of time costs. I do agree with JPF that the ladies are flaky and won't show up at the given time.[/QUOTE]Guess we all have different experiences. Have met 10's of gals from DIA (maybe nearly up to 3 figures) and all were pretty much on time and all were fine. Helps that I speak a reasonable amount of Tagalog so they know I'm not a 2 week tourist type. Maybe thats the difference, who knows.

[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos; 1396098]I found this article particularly disturbing as I have recommended and accompanied co-workers to this location as a place to take photos with lavish photographic equipment and have dated several times in the area over the past several months.

MANILA, Philippines—A French national was killed when he allegedly tried to fight off a suspected robber in Pasay City on Friday morning, police said.

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/370403/french-national-shot-and-killed-along-baywalk[/url][/QUOTE]Yes it is distrubing, but was his life worth 750E?

Anybody that resists a robber is a fool. I Manila, or Los Angeles (where I live) or anywhere in the world.

Give them your shit. It can be replaced. Your life cannot.

Thank you all for the valuable insight on DIA process. I like variety and for that reason consider DIA a viable option. I also managed to find few fairly good looking ones. The range of 8-9. Most that I am still talking to are 7s, but few are certainly 8-9. However, the really good looking ones are the least slutty, I found. So, for entertainment purposes I continue chatting them up. My profile on DIA is very clear that I'm looking for fun and not for serious relationship. So, this should be clear to them. What is not clear to them is that the picture on my profile is not mine. I don't know if and how it will pause a problem.

I do like companionship, even without intimacy, when I'm in a new place. When I travel for work, I am usually flanked by a local interpreter anyway and find it helpful to roam around with a local. As I usually can't f*k 24/7 and like other fine things in life (art, cuisine, etc). I don't mind having someone to chat with, while always keeping the upscale P4P options for the night. Of course, a lady must be at least cute to keep me aesthetically pleased. (:

To sum up. This should be an interesting experiment, as I have never dated a Pinay lady. By the time I travel, I expect to have about a dozen cuties from DIA to whom I communicated on Skype and in other ways. I am curious to see how this would transpire into bedroom action. Will report!

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[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1396216]What is not clear to them is that the picture on my profile is not mine. I don't know if and how it will pause a problem.

. SNIP. By the time I travel, I expect to have about a dozen cuties from DIA to whom I communicated on Skype and in other ways. I am curious to see how this would transpire into bedroom action. Will report![/QUOTE]You will need to have a reasonable explanation prepared for why the pic you have on DIA is not you. I simply don't post a picture rather than deceive them "up front".

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1394637]In case your hotel does not offer car service or if the price is high, then Margarita Station offers car service from anywhere in metro Manila (2, 600php for a car). The car will have a cooler for your beer / soft drinks and for a modest extra fee they'll stock it for you as well. Need to BYOG though, LOL.

I've used them a few times throughout my stay and drivers were always on time, if not early. Cars were clean late model sedans or mini-vans (no up-charge if car booked and van arrives). Payment is made directly to the driver upon completion of trip.

Link to their rate chart:

[url]http://www.margaritastation.com/oets.html[/url][/QUOTE]I have used Beeline [url]http://www.beelinetravel.com/taxi_index.htm[/url] A few times. The best value is when there are 4-5 people and you take a van. They also stop half way so you can take a wizz and get a starbucks or snacks for the road trip.

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1396216]My profile on DIA is very clear that I'm looking for fun and not for serious relationship. So, this should be clear to them. What is not clear to them is that the picture on my profile is not mine. I don't know if and how it will pause a problem.[/QUOTE]Not a problem. I use a false photo and a false name on DIA. If I'm fairly certain I'd going to bed a girl I just mention that "for privacy I don't use my real name or photo but I'll tell you as you are my good friend who is going to visit me in the hotel". Then I send them a pic. I'm also a little better looking and a little younger looking that the fake photo I use, which I'm sure is not lost on them. So far this has never been a problem with a girl.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1396168]Yes it is distrubing, but was his life worth 750E?

Anybody that resists a robber is a fool. I Manila, or Los Angeles (where I live) or anywhere in the world.

Give them your shit. It can be replaced. Your life cannot.[/QUOTE]Resisting a guy with a gun is just silly. MY homeowners insurance covers things like that. Cash might be a problem as how do you prove how much you had. But I'd rather be looking ofr ATM receipts than getting put in a coffin. Guys, DON"T ARGUE WITH A GUN. I don't care how many Rambo movies you've watched. This is not Hollywood.

[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1396216]My profile on DIA is very clear that I'm looking for fun and not for serious relationship. So, this should be clear to them. What is not clear to them is that the picture on my profile is not mine. I don't know if and how it will pause a problem.

A[/QUOTE]Pic on profile is what attracts the girl to reply to your message. Many good looking young girls told me they get bunch of messages. They weed it out according to appearance on pic. Even if later on chatting you admit saying

You put the wrong pic they would want to know why. Girl's first preference as always is for somebody who they want a serious relationship or at least somebody who will support them.

Mentioning in your profile that you are looking for fun only will draw girls who are hookers or part time hookers. Correct way is to mention that you are looking for friends first. IMHO most of the young good looking girls initially say they are looking for long term
relationship and marriage. At that time you can say you are looking for friendship and company on your visits. Some vanish but you will be surprised how the girls change their mind and ready to be with you.

One time I was going to be in Manila for three days and started trolling DIA. I must have sent messages to close to 50 girls saying I want company. 10 girls replied and ready to be with me. I weeded out and ended up with 3 good girls who took care of me. Of course
they said why I would not let them stay with me more than one day. I had to come up with some lame excuse and promise them it will be more days next time I visit. Real reason is I wanted to sample all three.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1396435]SNIP Mentioning in your profile that you are looking for fun only will draw girls who are hookers or part time hookers. Correct way is to mention that you are looking for friends first. IMHO most of the young good looking girls initially say they are looking for long term relationship and marriage.[/QUOTE]Respectfully, my profile is like Aibolit's."Just looking to have fun in my hotel with the ladies. Nothing more." When I turn it on a few weeks before traveling, I get 40-50 responses per day. That number dwindles within a week, but this kind of profile weeds out the non-willing quickly. I'm only looking for girls willing to be nawty for a night. When I say in the profile that I'm looking for friends, it leads to unwanted consequences later. When my profile mentioned 'friends' or relationship, even girls who agree to a quick meet-and-bang somehow get the wrong idea, and after they want some kind of relationship (usually involving ongoing remittance). Sammon I will PM you about a similar thing.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1396168]Yes it is distrubing, but was his life worth 750E?

Anybody that resists a robber is a fool. I Manila, or Los Angeles (where I live) or anywhere in the world.

Give them your shit. It can be replaced. Your life cannot.[/QUOTE]I agree. Anyone who fights off a robber is a fool. Just let them have what you got. Thats why, though some will tell you to take passports along when you go out of your hotel, my advice is leave them in the hotel.

1. When you go out on an outing, just take slightly more than what you need.

2. Leave all your credit cards, except the one you plan to use.

3. If you need to withdraw money using your ATM, do it ahead of time, and leave your ATM card in the room.

4. Leave your passport in your room, and take your drivers license with you, or some other non-travel identification.

5. If you have jewelry or expensive watch, leave it the room.

6. If you are wearing nice clothes, wear them, but not ones that make you stick out.

7. When I mean in your room, leave everything above in the safe.

8. Plan your outing ahead of time. Ask questions if need be from hotel staff.

Taling about DIA and paid subscriptions, I thought I'd write my 2 cents here. I have used both services considerably. The response rate from girls in both sights has gone down considerably in recent years but overall always hooked up with someone nice. I guess, either by being fooled or word of mouth, a lot of the girls are aware of what is going on. Having said that, this is what I found. I agree with one poster here, let them know exactly what you want. Don's mislead them to think you are going to marry them. That is not cool. My response to them have always been, I am looking for a girl friend, and I am not sure if I am interested in a serious realtionship if things don't work out.

FC:

It is a paid subscription service. This is not a free service, though you can sign up and browse. I found that more of the women in this site are older than the site in DIA. I also found a lot more of the girls are educated and employed in FC. I think there is a perception that if a man pays to sign up, he is serious about a relationship. I usually sign up for a 30 days period. And them mine it for all it's worth. It is hard to figure out which site has better looking girls. I think they are all about the same. There are many high level scammers on FC. They know men who signed up have money, or are willing to take a greater risk. They usually have very pretty pictures, and they will connect with you unsolicited. Always, always ignore the girls who contact you first. It is extremely rare that a girls connects with you first is genuine, as they are already getting bombarded by a lot of guys. There are many cam for fee, paid sex show solicited on FC. I am not a fan for this, but if you are into that, cool. Again it is usually the pretty ones. They will start like, come to this website.

DIA:

This is a free site. There are a lot more younger girls here. A lot of girls here are there for money. Almost one out of two will hit you up for things like, mother needs blood transfusion, or my daughters birthday is 1 week and so on. I did give to single moms, couple of times, and when I got to Manila, they treated me like I was royalty. It is all up to to you. But many are scammers, generally low level scammers, not like the ones in FC. The girls here like to hit up for cash from many guys. It is like those homeless guys at freeway offramps asking for money. DIA does have a whole lot more girls than paid sites. And more variety. Less older women, especially between 30 and 45. I like 30 to 45, because I like to carryone a temporary relationship with multiple girls. I did connect two women together who were interested in trying out other women. Turned them into bi's, and had a threesome from it. Had to get both of them drunk first, hehehehe.

One rule you should follow is never entertain a girl who contacts you first. One, you are not in control. Two, they always have turned out to be scammers. They will make you spend a lot of time, and they are really good at getting your attention. If you like a girl, and want her to contact you first, just click on her profile, and close it. That will show up on her profile that you looked. Then if that person contacts you, then it generally turns out to be a good connection. Because you are controlling the conversation and you sort of initiated the contact.

The other rule is, make sure you see them online, on cam before you meet. You are a fool if you don't.

Collect the contacts and use skype, yahoo messenger or something similar to communicate with them. You do have to spend time cultivating relationship. And you can get some really nice ones, that you can maintain for a period of time, until you get tired of them. They sometimes will figure out you are not serious and will move along. I have had girls reconnect after a year because they wanted sex.

Also, get online a couple of days, preferably a week. Modify your profile to say, you will be in Phills on such a such a date. It makes the girls make quick decisions, especially the young ones.

i for one do not assume they only want my money. maybe the want to fuck me. maybe they want to fuck my date. maybe the want to kidnap me. maybe they are their to kill me and do not want blood on the money when i am dead. i for one try to stay alive. but if i think i can kill them first and life another day i will. i sure do not want to be tied like a dog raped daily while in some nipa hut waiting for some one to give them money as they cut off my fingers to prove i am not dead just to cut my head off when they figure out everyone i know will keep the money and my government sure as shit will not pay for me. i am real close to ssn and it is broke now. so i do not see it as just my money. i see it as my life and how i live. living free and dieing free is important to me. maybe some would like some of the other options we read about to death. and that is their right. but for me to be free on a good day is the best day of my life. now i am not saying if their are 10 with m16's standing at distances i would not take that into consideration in when to make a move. but i would be looking to make one. and would rather die trying to die as many over there do. to each his own. but i do not judge a man for acting like one. i repect him. my two cents. viva la france

Any good options of a strip club in Makati / Manila? Something different and more relaxed from Burgos where 4 girls try to grab your dikk at the same time. A place where you can whach the show, talk to a girl, buy her drink, get conection and maybe even take her to your hotel rom. A place with a bit of class.