Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=Talkyes;2601979]I spent so much money on chaturbate trying to line up some chicas for my trip. I honestly can't say that I'm feeling very confident than any of them will meet me, and I'm 100% confident that some of the ones I spent a lot on will not meet me. Really hammers home the phrase that the only honest women are prostitutes. I know I'm an idiot so there's no need to tell me. That money could have been spent so much better on my trip. And maybe a couple of them will meet with me and make it worth the money I wasted on the ones who won't, but I'm not going to hold my breath. There was a guy on here insisting that it's a decent way to meet women despite everyone saying it's not, and I regret ever reading that post. I really don't think it is a good way (I guess I'll find out soon enough). Most girls will say what you want to hear in an attempt to get tips from you and they are just bottomless pits of want. The more you send, the more they expect. And if they do meet you, it's not because they said they would or to fill their end of the bargain, it's because they hope to keep squeezing more out of the lemon. Maybe there are some girls on there who are sincere, but they're so few and far between that it makes it too risky an endeavour to seek them out. It makes sense that they expect you to send them something to show that you're serious and not a chump, but then it just becomes a slippery slope of exploitation. And they know this but they feign ignorance. Turns out it's not just western women who are manipulative and entitled. I have so much respect for the girls who just straight up say they won't do encounters, even if they're bitches about it.[/QUOTE]If written about this several times, but it seems like nobody pays attention.

Webcam girls already have a job, and if they've been working at it for 6 months or more, it is probably earning them a decent living. Just like many jobs they also have a boss looking over their shoulder. In many cases the boss is the actual person you are chatting with, because the model doesn't have time to try and translate everything.

If the webcam model wanted to make money by meeting strangers for sex, she would be out hooking and not on webcam. Yes, there are some who do both, but you're usually going to pay a much higher rate, not counting what you have to spend just to get their attention.

The problem you will always face when trying to set up something with a webcam model is from her fans. Her fans are guys who would (mostly) never travel to meet her. They live on the fantasy. When she's got 6 guys spending $500 a month on her, all who would freak out if they knew she met someone else, why throw that away for a few hundred dollars?

Webcam is just live action porn. If it's something you enjoy, enjoy it for what it is. If you would rather meet and have sex with women, that's much easier, much cheaper and more dependable than trying to get a webcam model to meet.

Carrera 15 #104-76.

Its a collection, well 5 I think rooms in an exterior hallway of a building where each room have between 1 and 5 or 6 girls that offer massages and happy endings or full service if you want. Quite well known and is on the Bogota map and list from Worldtraveler (a user on here), read the forum a bit and all is answered.

[QUOTE=DerTyperb;2602158]I'm sorry, but what / where are the Mezzanines you are referring to? Is it a casa? Where is the location on Google Maps?[/QUOTE]

Here is a link for a girl at one of the rooms.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/usaquen/extrovertida-y-muy-atractiva-damita-lista-para-ti-id-py6yp[/URL]

[QUOTE=Luminus;2602140]Het everyone, time for an update. Landed in Bogota at 4 am on the 2nd, went up to arrivals and used the ATM, Davivienda did not work with my Scotia Bank card (I'm Canadian), took 1. 000.000 from Servibanca and got charged 16.000 by the ATM, No foreign fees from my bank, almost like Chase for you Americans. I've taken 3 ATM withdrawals so far and when I decline the first rate, the transaction is always cancelled so I start over and just accept the rate, my average is about 200 cop less than the XE posted rate, not good, not bad.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hmm. The exchange rate you get from Scotiabank in Canada is always around 2. 5% less than the mid market rate for that day. They charge you 2. 5%, it is in all of their disclosures, and I am a Scotiabank customer in Canada as well. And they also charge you a $5 Canadian fee for any foreign withdrawals outside of US and Mexico. Plus whatever you pay at the ATM machine you use. If you use Scotiabank / Colpatria you may not have the ATM charge, at least I did not last year. And that really has nothing to do with Scotiabank owning them. Scotiabank doesn't give you any breaks if you have a card back at home. Just FYI. The Canadian banks all charge either 2. 5 or 3. 5% for currency conversion when you withdraw cash at a foreign ATM, plus the $5 or $7 fee.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2602140]

My novia was being a little weird and did not want to come see me for the first few days, she had to take her kid to school and had classes of her own but was still disappointed. Spent those days just resting from the 14 hours of travel and doing a little recon of my area. Feel totally safe in the areas around the hotel day and night. Met up with the novia Saturday morning and we did the touristy things, (Gold museum, the plaza, Quevedo's jet.) when having lunch she asked if I planned to have sex with other women. This was a topic we discussed before and honesty has always been our motto, even when it hurts the other so I said yes. She said to be careful, don't kiss and wear a condom and now we are just friends LOL. [/QUOTE]Your first mistake, LOL. Seriously, you're a better man than I am.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2602140]Monday I spent all day running around trying to get a unlocked phone that I brought from Canada to work in Colombia. Went to 3 different provider for them all to tell me that yes the phone is unlocked and they don't know why their sim card won't activate in my phone. Finally the guy at a Movistar said the yes it's unlocked but that particular phone is blocked in Colombia. [/QUOTE]What phone is that if you don't mind?

[QUOTE=Talkyes;2602169]But even taking safety out of the equation, It would still be cool to hit up a couple bars with someone from here because life is short and why the hell not.[/QUOTE]When is your trip?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2599124]Might have missed out on the best session of your life running from those ugly chicks.[/QUOTE]+1. I had one like that at the Mezz on and off for years. Those girls from Boyacá are pure fire.

Ironically she appeared as a suggested friend on Insta just like a week ago. LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602265]When is your trip?[/QUOTE]October 12th -26th. Santa fe for the first 5 days, Chapinero Central for the rest.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2602207]If written about this several times, but it seems like nobody pays attention.

If the webcam model wanted to make money by meeting strangers for sex, she would be out hooking and not on webcam. Yes, there are some who do both, but you're usually going to pay a much higher rate, not counting what you have to spend just to get their attention.

The problem you will always face when trying to set up something with a webcam model is from her fans. Her fans are guys who would (mostly) never travel to meet her. They live on the fantasy. When she's got 6 guys spending $500 a month on her, all who would freak out if they knew she met someone else, why throw that away for a few hundred dollars?[/QUOTE]What I did was stupid but I disagree about the reasons why.

Without getting into it too much, Mr E hit the nail on the head when he said those sites only work if you intend to meet right away. When you try to use it to plan ahead, you're just opening yourself up to deception and manipulation. They use that window to try and get as much from you as possible and guilt you when you stop coming to their room or sending them tips. They pretend they don't understand the difference between someone whos tipping them with the intention of meeting and someone who is just tipping to see a show. They act like you're obligated to continuously provide for them if they want to meet you. I bought one girls whatsapp and then she said her phone got stolen and she said she'd give me a good deal on her new number. Just bullshit like that. There's a lot of girls on there, some make a lot of money, some make very little, and their incomes don't seem directly correlated to their looks or experience. Sometimes there were stunners that only had like 4 viewers and none of them even had an account activated to send a tip. I didn't target the girls with a big following. But my point is there's too many girls on there with vastly different incomes to generalize about what they would and wouldn't do. A lot of Colombianas on there work in studios and I've looked into it, the studios don't pay that well at all. And they definitely wouldn't tell their fanbase if they hooked up with a user.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2602207]If written about this several times, but it seems like nobody pays attention.

Webcam girls already have a job, and if they've been working at it for 6 months or more, it is probably earning them a decent living. Just like many jobs they also have a boss looking over their shoulder. In many cases the boss is the actual person you are chatting with, because the model doesn't have time to try and translate everything.

If the webcam model wanted to make money by meeting strangers for sex, she would be out hooking and not on webcam. Yes, there are some who do both, but you're usually going to pay a much higher rate, not counting what you have to spend just to get their attention.

The problem you will always face when trying to set up something with a webcam model is from her fans. Her fans are guys who would (mostly) never travel to meet her. They live on the fantasy. When she's got 6 guys spending $500 a month on her, all who would freak out if they knew she met someone else, why throw that away for a few hundred dollars?

Webcam is just live action porn. If it's something you enjoy, enjoy it for what it is. If you would rather meet and have sex with women, that's much easier, much cheaper and more dependable than trying to get a webcam model to meet.[/QUOTE]During My last visit to Medellin, I encountered a Normal woman in her early 30's, fake breasts, in shorts, wearing glasses walking hurriedly on street and I Just said Hola to her. She turned back and walked to me, had some chat and exchanged phone number. I called her in the evening if she can visit me to my apartment and she agreed. Upon arrival, she had on her a very low cut shirt, shorts, beautiful legs. We started chatting on sofa and she mentioned that she is a webcam girl from [URL]stripchat.com[/URL]. So, I thought that she would ask me for lots of money as she is webcam girl. I just wanted to fuck her and get my load off as we see these girls on computer and fall in love with them and here she is with me in person. I told her that I am falling in love with her and want to take her out for dinner. Started kissing each other and ended up in bed. She put on some erotic Arabic music on her phone and gave me BBBJ very tenderly and then put on condom and fucked me with lots of moans. Cuddled in bed for 15 minutes and ready to go home. I offered her taxi money and she said OK. I gave her 150 mil and she did not even asked how much it was or count and just put in her bag and left with few kisses on my mouth and on cheek.

I thought that 150 mil was very less money and she will never talk with me any more. However, A day after, I called her and offered to take her for breakfast or lunch and she agreed for breakfast and gave me her home address to which I was extremely surprised. I took the taxi and she lives in very upscale area of Medellin, I think north of Poblado near some Mall. She have an apartment in a tall multistoried luxury building, security, pool, gym and supermarket. She came down to receive me at the concierge, her hair wet and told me she just came out of the shower and took me to her apartment. Nice apartment, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathroom, balcony, No furniture, only air mattress and few 32" luggage bags that we travel with. She told me that she is moving to this apartment and today is her first day and that is the reason I do not see any furniture. Nice apartment on 20th floor, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, small kitchen, nice shiny floors and luxury bathrooms. Gave me a tour of her apartment and showed me her toys that included various sized dildos, butt plugs, hitachi, and pink thing that vibrates upon someone tipping, some lighting, lots of various creams and lotions. So, now I am very curious and asked her about her business and the money she makes and I was very surprised that she mentioned that her cut is only 30% on dollar. That means 70% goes to the website and girls keep 30%. 70% cut on website includes 50% for technology that keeps and maintains the website, stores her videos and accounts. She mentioned that she is not doing good on webcam and sometimes she makes hardly $30 USD after showing and performing for more then 5 hours.

In another incident, I met a girl on chaturbate her name is Adriana from Medellin and she has a extremly beautiful girl name Ana 26 years performing with her. I tipped Ana and she sent me a thankyou message privately and then one thing led into another. Exchanged private phone number and we talked. She is doing very poorly on chaturbate and hardly making any money to pay her food she mentioned and every day begging regalos from me. I did webcam with her in her house, living very poorly in Barrio, in one bedroom house with two kids. Tired with her begging I had to say goodbye to her and block her. So, I don't think that all webcam girls are making tons of money and can pay their bills. Some are on webcam for extra small income or as hobby.

To give you an idea, I am from London, and have been to Colombia several times, the only reason I fly all the way there is. Other than the Bulgarians! No one beats the skill of a Colombian woman.

This is my one cent worth!

Bogota -- get woodman as your wing man, I ventured out in Santa Fe alone, but only few streets, as soon as I found there is not much people around, I just turned back.

YOu don't need to know Spanish, however knowing Spanish is beneficial (I don't know a word of Spanish!

You can get some girls to show around in day time from 'Show around', if you click, then you might get lucky.

There are message places, and up market places as well.

Strip club is Colombia is -- like FFK, you sit around and find the girl you like, pay at the counter and take her to the room!!

Medellin. Has happening places like Barcelona. Party places. You can read the thread, which will give you some idea.

Centro. Is like frank rut. Near the station places!!

There are entry level and upscale strip clubs you can try in Medellin (30 minutes - 60000 peso -- 300000 peso) based on where you go.

300000 peso is like 80 £ I believe.

Cartagena. Is a Beach town. More toouristic.

- from my experience Cartagena has the most beautiful girls in offer than other strip clubs in Medellin or Bogota.

This is just my view based on my few visits before COVID (3 times to be precise).

Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Djosten;2602195]I would like to ask a few questions here before I come to Colombia for 3 weeks in November. This will be my first stay in Colombia. I am coming alone and I don't speak Spanish. Am neither old nor young. I am no stranger to sports.

1. which city should I choose and why? The choices are Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena. Maybe 5 days Bogota, 7 Medellin and 9 Cartagena? Or should I limit myself to just one city?

2. are any of you in one of these cities at this time and would like to meet up so we can visit some places / bars / clubs together? My English is school level, I am from Germany.

3. would you recommend me a wingman, so I don't have to walk alone in the evening / night. And where do I find such guys, how much do they charge?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2602370]In another incident, I met a girl on chaturbate her name is Adriana from Medellin and she has a extremly beautiful girl name Ana 26 years performing with her. I tipped Ana and she sent me a thankyou message privately and then one thing led into another. Exchanged private phone number and we talked. She is doing very poorly on chaturbate and hardly making any money to pay her food she mentioned and every day begging regalos from me. I did webcam with her in her house, living very poorly in Barrio, in one bedroom house with two kids. Tired with her begging I had to say goodbye to her and block her. So, I don't think that all webcam girls are making tons of money and can pay their bills. Some are on webcam for extra small income or as hobby.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with you. Some people on this forum hold webcam girls in high regard, as if they are all high earners, and that is not true. My main chica here, whom I know very well, I lived with her for some time, was a cam girl herself and owned a studio for ten years. Six rooms, three shifts, 24/7 operation. She recently sold her share and exited the industry.

Being a cam girl is very hard. The studios and platforms take the lion's share of tokens. Many girls last only a week in the industry; the average duration of a model at a studio is about a month. These girls are real employees, and have EPS insurance included. They get frequent UTI's due to constant dildo action; legit studios even require a doctor's note to stay off work. During the initial stages on the quarantine last year, I read through several years of HR records for her studio, and saw so many doctor's notes which would say, no manual stimulation or penetration of vagina for five days. My chica tells me that she had many models who worked for her, who bailed on their job as soon as a gringo offered to take them to Cartagena or San Andres or Cancun or whatever. No forward thinking. And obviously no commitment to a difficult job.

JuJuBee talked about a girl's following after six months. True, some girls are successful and tremendous earners, but the vast majority of models don't last that long and never make that kind of money. Just scroll through the pages of chaturbate. The majority of girls online have few people in their room. Facebook and Tinder chicas? Many, many of them have worked webcam for a short span. If webcam is supposedly so lucrative, why are they fucking fat and ugly foreigners?

All this is to say, if there is a model you like, give it a go. Understand though, that as someone said recently, many of these girls or the studio use a translator, who is in the office translating between the user and the model, so you need to get past that. Get to social media or whatsapp if you can.

We should only look for girls in these websites, when you are about to travel, like a week before or so.

Look for the new ones, before they get a fan base!

How you find the new one? Look at the promotions. Usually 0-1 $, mostly of them when they join will use this option, that is to lure the users to them.

I haven't see many doing more than 1 week, as soon as they get few regulars, they are done with the promotion.

Its a 40% chance, I lined up nearly 10 of them, I meet 4! In 2019! Off course that is the last time I have been in COL.

One of them only wanted to stay in the room have fun, get the money and go, as she didn't want to be seen with me by anyone else.

I also meet a couple, (no sex) from Jasmin, who helped me to see around places, in a cost effective manner, went to many places otherwise I wouldn't have.

The key is to have a discipline, not to spend!! And when we spent?? To go to pvt, so share our number to whatsapp us! I didn't stay more than a minute or two, max I have stayed is 5 minutes.

I have learned this in the hard way, initially I did spent a lot, as may have done!! We all at some time have experience being an idiot!!

Learn it from it, and improvise!

-live sex Web portals are ideally not the place to look for hookup girls, even we say. May still stick to it!! As you are not moving away from your chair (laziness).

To those people. Porn is free!! Please keep it like that!

Post COVID. It looks travel is now a possibility, and I am traveling to AMS for few months.

Enjoy guys!

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2602370]During My last visit to Medellin, I encountered a Normal woman in her early 30's, fake breasts, in shorts, wearing glasses walking hurriedly on street and I Just said Hola to her. She turned back and walked to me, had some chat and exchanged phone number. I called her in the evening if she can visit me to my apartment and she agreed. Upon arrival, she had on her a very low cut shirt, shorts, beautiful legs. We started chatting on sofa and she mentioned that she is a webcam girl from [URL]stripchat.com[/URL]. So, I thought that she would ask me for lots of money as she is webcam girl. I just wanted to fuck her and get my load off as we see these girls on computer and fall in love with them and here she is with me in person. I told her that I am falling in love with her and want to take her out for dinner. Started kissing each other and ended up in bed. She put on some erotic Arabic music on her phone and gave me BBBJ very tenderly and then put on condom and fucked me with lots of moans. Cuddled in bed for 15 minutes and ready to go home. I offered her taxi money and she said OK. I gave her 150 mil and she did not even asked how much it was or count and just put in her bag and left with few kisses on my mouth and on cheek..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Talkyes;2602309]October 12th -26th. Santa fe for the first 5 days, Chapinero Central for the rest.

What I did was stupid but I disagree about the reasons why.

Without getting into it too much, Mr E hit the nail on the head when he said those sites only work if you intend to meet right away. When you try to use it to plan ahead, you're just opening yourself up to deception and manipulation. They use that window to try and get as much from you as possible and guilt you when you stop coming to their room or sending them tips. They pretend they don't understand the difference between someone whos tipping them with the intention of meeting and someone who is just tipping to see a show. They act like you're obligated to continuously provide for them if they want to meet you. I bought one girls whatsapp and then she said her phone got stolen and she said she'd give me a good deal on her new number. Just bullshit like that. There's a lot of girls on there, some make a lot of money, some make very little, and their incomes don't seem directly correlated to their looks or experience. Sometimes there were stunners that only had like 4 viewers and none of them even had an account activated to send a tip. I didn't target the girls with a big following..[/QUOTE]There's an old saying where I come from, "don't try to teach your grandma how to suck eggs." What that means is don't try to teach someone something when they have a lot more experience at it than you do.

Without retelling my life story, I worked in webcam, with webcam studios in Colombia. I shared an apartment with a webcam model. I met and talked to webcam models daily for nearly 1 year.

Unless a webcam model has reached a level of success where she can afford to go solo, she works for a webcam studio. If she works for a webcam studio she has a monitor, a person who is running TeamViewer and monitoring everything that goes on in her broadcast, that includes private messages, tip notes and even Whatsapp messages. Among other things the monitor is there to protect the studio's investment in the model. The studio pays the model a percentage of her earnings, usually 50%. If the model is using the studio's equipment and space to bypass the studio's income, the studio seldom approves of it.

The problem isn't the model telling her fan base that she fucked BigDick69 or whatever creative name the user came up with. The problem is the user telling everyone, posting pictures etc.

So the monitor is there answering PMs, running the chat, doing most of the typing, while the model is doing her thing. Do you understand now? Chances are slim that you were ever talking to the webcam models. You were probably talking to a 20-30 year old guy who gets paid 5-10% of what the model brings in. I'm telling you this because I have been in both positions, as the user thinking he was getting somewhere with a webcam model and as the monitor, playing the user to keep the tips flowing.

If you happen to get a model who is still in her first few months, not yet making any money, if she's working for a small studio, if she went from hooking to webcam, then you might be able to land a date with her. But the successful studios aren't putting hookers on webcam. They don't want them because they will quit and go back to hooking once they learn they have to work a regular schedule for months before they start making as much as they made selling ass. Again, I'm telling you this because I've dealt with it. Put a hooker in front of a webcam and she expects 100-200 k for every day she works and it doesn't matter how good she looks, she isn't going to earn that for at least 3 months.

If you're actually going to travel to another country and fuck the women there, every dollar you spend on a webcam model is wasted. Chances are you can find just as good or better once you're in country.

I'll change my tune. Absolutely, the best use of your time and money is to spend it on webcam sites, trying to get models to agree to meet up with you once you're in Colombia. Why go to free websites like Mileroticos or Photoprepagos and find girls? Why go to strip clubs or to Santa Fe, where you can check them out in person for free, or for the price of a beer, when you can spend from $5-$5,000 dollars getting a WhatsApp number from a girl on Chaturbate? Why spend 15 minutes finding a girl who is in the business of selling pussy, when you can spend 5-20 hours a week looking at webcams, trying to find one that will agree to meet you, once you've spent enough money on her?

I was doing adult video chat before there were any webcam sites. I was watching webcams at least15 years ago. Over the years I've spent a ridiculous amount of money on the different sites. And that was before I was working for webcam studios.

Webcam sites are there for the guys who can't, for whatever reason, go out, meet women and fuck them. They're for the guys who prefer the fantasy to reality.

If you like webcams, then watch webcams and spend money. Spend money because, and it seems some people can't understand this, it costs money to put on a webcam show. The webcam sites and the webcam studios all have a big investment in bringing the webcam models to your screen. The entire industry only exists if people continue to make it profitable.

If instead you're interested in actually meeting and fucking women, get a plane ticket and go get your dick wet. There's no need to spend time and money on webcams. With a webcam model you're either dealing with someone who is already a hooker and who will go back to hooking once she realizes that webcam is work, or you're dealing with someone who has no interest in being a hooker. So you're either spending money to get something you can easily find for free, or you're spending money trying to get something that's not for sale.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2602405]To give you an idea, I am from London, and have been to Colombia several times, the only reason I fly all the way there is. Other than the Bulgarians! No one beats the skill of a Colombian woman.

This is my one cent worth!

Bogota -- get woodman as your wing man.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answer. But how can I get Woodman as my wing man?