General Reports

I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. I guess someone must be paying or prices would drop.

I've got a couple more nights in town, hoping for better luck; but thank goodness for the 600 walk-ups and the 400 brothels. They are likely to get my business after I get my fill of beer in Wanchai.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1764679]I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. .[/QUOTE]Well done not to entertain these ridiculous prices and to stay firm. Hopefully more of us will do the same as you did and not let the little brain take over the thinking and surrender to these surreal prices (for HK standards). It's us who control the demand and thus the prices.

Continuing my researches into expensive venues in TST (see Daily Spa, Coral Spa etc), I visited Luxury Spa (details on the one-four-one web site that Jackson does not allow us to name). The web site made it look interesting, and I became curious about it. Booking by SMS message was easy enough, despite a little language barrier that required a couple of questions to be repeated.

The location isn't so good, as it involves an irascible doorman who kept shouting at me in Cantonese. I didn't understand a word of it and ignored him, but it's not exactly an inconspicuous way to enter a building. But once in the "spa", it's very pleasant. Spa isn't really the right word. It's a small apartment that contains a single room that includes a double bed (in ludicrous Disney Louis Quinze styling), a little shower room, and a gigantic jacuzzi tub.

Only one girl was there; no choice, no mamasan, just one girl. Luckily she was lovely, young, slim and pretty, and called herself Celia. She helped me undress, and then joined me in the shower for a bit of a scrub.

I read a write-up of this place that said the girl then joins one in the jacuzzi for some pre-penetration fun. Celia didn't do that. She had me straight from the shower to the bed, and went straight into the action. This wasn't bad at all, apart from CBJ, and she was happy to accept fingers, DATY, and eventually a good session in a variety of positions, ending in mish. Nothing to complain about.

Then she led me to the tub, and I got in and relaxed. She just sat there next to the tub and watched me. I asked if she was getting in, and she said no. This was extremely uncomfortable. Relaxing in a jacuzzi with a lovely naked girl leaning on you would be heaven. TRYING to relax while the lovely naked girl sits nearby looking bored is exceptionally hard. I gave it five minutes and then gave up, got out, dried myself and got ready to leave. Big black mark there; they are not using their resources well at all.

Total cost HK $2,000, for an hour, which is pretty poor value for money, even given the high quality of the girl's physical attributes and her overall nice attitude.

Also there's no massage here.

Not likely to return; and that's why I'm doing a field report. Taking one for the team is no use if you don't write it down!

[QUOTE=ZuzonX;1761943]It's the general manager at Holiday Inn that has changed and she is a lady (first female hotel GM I come across within 30 years of travelling). She has instructed to cleanup Hari's Bar. But now she complains to the F+B director why business in Hari's has dropped more than half. Wonder what planet she is coming from if she as a hotel GM doesn't understand how things work in hotel bars.[/QUOTE]There are many female general managers out there. The head of Raffles / Swissotel is / a very formidable singaporean lady. Owner of Mulia in Jakarta is a formidable Indonesian lady. Four Seasons, Raffles, Hilton, Hyatt, Sheraton etc all have a successful rosta of female general managers. Many of them have all worked in less senior positions so all know where a bars money comes from.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1765007]There are many female general managers out there. The head of Raffles / Swissotel is / a very formidable singaporean lady. Owner of Mulia in Jakarta is a formidable Indonesian lady. Four Seasons, Raffles, Hilton, Hyatt, Sheraton etc all have a successful rosta of female general managers. Many of them have all worked in less senior positions so all know where a bars money comes from.[/QUOTE]I may swing by Hari's tonight; it's my last night in town and I've got to get up relatively early for my flight home tomorrow, so I think I'd best avoid Wanchai. Will report back if I make it.

Agree with Jy's post. The prices quoted are about right. Have posted for about a year that prices have gone up in the Wanchai Bar areas. Had a friend re-enter the industry after time away and the prices she wanted to charge in Wanchai bars was similar to JY's post.

There is always a different rate for a visitor and a local. Locals always have an advantage in this area.

Prices go up all the time for any service / goods. Sometimes its like guys wish they were in 1975 and not 2015.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1765279]Agree with Jy's post. The prices quoted are about right. Have posted for about a year that prices have gone up in the Wanchai Bar areas. Had a friend re-enter the industry after time away and the prices she wanted to charge in Wanchai bars was similar to JY's post.

There is always a different rate for a visitor and a local. Locals always have an advantage in this area.

Prices go up all the time for any service / goods. Sometimes its like guys wish they were in 1975 and not 2015.[/QUOTE]Indeed, it just seems like a lot of money for Hong Kong; I expect those prices in Singapore at Brix, but it seems the inflation here has hit pretty quickly. I'm relatively quite new to the game, having made my first foray into the HKG scene maybe 3 years ago - 4 at most. I'm pretty sure 1200 was the going LT rate back then. And I don't really understand how the prices have gone up so much here, since there are so many bars and so many lovelies packing in each one night after night. But. Who knows!

Another question for you. What's up with New Makati? It was absolutely dead on Friday, and only slightly crowded on Saturday. On past trips it's been jam packed every night I've visited. It still remains my favorite venue, as I seem to have taken a fancy to your countrywomen and they're usually there vs. Other clubs! =).

I will not be paying these prices, methinks I will stick to 141 girls, Temple St and surround walk ups, K pressure, Mongkok walk-ups, I will be in Wanchai just for beers and dance. Also Macau side trips.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1764679]I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. I guess someone must be paying or prices would drop.

I've got a couple more nights in town, hoping for better luck; but thank goodness for the 600 walk-ups and the 400 brothels. They are likely to get my business after I get my fill of beer in Wanchai.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1765367]Indeed, it just seems like a lot of money for Hong Kong; I expect those prices in Singapore at Brix, but it seems the inflation here has hit pretty quickly. I'm relatively quite new to the game, having made my first foray into the HKG scene maybe 3 years ago - 4 at most. I'm pretty sure 1200 was the going LT rate back then. And I don't really understand how the prices have gone up so much here, since there are so many bars and so many lovelies packing in each one night after night. But. Who knows!

Another question for you. What's up with New Makati? It was absolutely dead on Friday, and only slightly crowded on Saturday. On past trips it's been jam packed every night I've visited. It still remains my favorite venue, as I seem to have taken a fancy to your countrywomen and they're usually there vs. Other clubs! =).[/QUOTE]HK prices and Singapore prices have always been similar. That's why a number of Singapore based escorts travel to HK and vice versa. Hk prices have gone up a little in Wanchai, but there hasn't been a dramatic increase. Long term prices? It depends on your definition. Some guys take a girl at at 5 am and the girl is gone by 9 am or 10 am. And guys call that long term. Other gents consider long time to be a 12 hour booking.

Makati. Started to lose business 18 months ago when the Indo overstay / refugee ladies had to leave HK. Then with the unfortunate events of September 14 business dropped off even more. Business at makati is slowly improving but it still only 50% of two years ago. Also more Indo ladies are working online instead of going to bars.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1765367]
Another question for you. What's up with New Makati? It was absolutely dead on Friday, and only slightly crowded on Saturday. On past trips it's been jam packed every night I've visited. It still remains my favorite venue, as I seem to have taken a fancy to your countrywomen and they're usually there vs. Other clubs! =).[/QUOTE]NM was always a favourite of mine as well. Frequented by DH's who were more than happy to keep you happy and for very little financial return as I have reported often in the past. The DH price norm was in the region of $500, gratefully received. Always presented and seen as a "gift".

I'm glad I have a few DH phone numbers that I can still use for my next visit coming up, but I am aware the price has gone up slightly. I have a feeling that the NM venue suffered following on the murder last year and it seemed to me that the DH's were frequenting some of the other bars more often. At least many I spoke to in other bars purported to be a DH, maybe to save face of course.

It's still a great place to monger, but supply / demand always seems to be a factor as well. I recollect breaking the bank earlier in the year in Escape and paying $2000 - but she was worth it! Hope I don't have to repeat too often.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1765279]Agree with Jy's post. The prices quoted are about right. Have posted for about a year that prices have gone up in the Wanchai Bar areas. Had a friend re-enter the industry after time away and the prices she wanted to charge in Wanchai bars was similar to JY's post.

There is always a different rate for a visitor and a local. Locals always have an advantage in this area.

Prices go up all the time for any service / goods. Sometimes its like guys wish they were in 1975 and not 2015.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. A commodity that consistently increases in price, easy access and entry, and recession proof. Need more at these times. LOL.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1764679]I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. I guess someone must be paying or prices would drop.

I've got a couple more nights in town, hoping for better luck; but thank goodness for the 600 walk-ups and the 400 brothels. They are likely to get my business after I get my fill of beer in Wanchai.[/QUOTE]Agreed! Although a Mongolian / Russian does sound delicious, $2500 is way too much. The walk up / brothel scene in Kowloon is a no brainier IMO. About 10 days ago I had a cute mainland gal at a Soy street brothel for just $380, hell I could've taken all 5 of the girls they showed and still not racked up a bill for $2500!

Mainland Chinese prostitute stabbed to death in frenzied brothel attack had only been in Hong Kong 24 hours.

[URL]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1852647/mainland-chinese-prostitute-45-chopped-death-brutal-hong[/URL]

PUBLISHED: Wednesday, 26 August, 2015,9:30 am.

UPDATED: Thursday, 27 August, 2015,10:12 am.

News›Hong Kong›Law & Crime.

CRIME.

Clifford Lo.

A mainland prostitute was allegedly killed in a frenzied knife attack by her client in a Yau Ma Tei brothel on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after arriving in the city.

The 20-year-old suspect is accused of having sex with another mainland prostitute next door before stabbing the 45-year-old woman. He allegedly fled the brothel in his underpants and jumped into the sea in an apparent suicide attempt.

A passerby called police and the man was arrested on the Kwun Tong promenade after swimming ashore.

"he was wearing underpants and a cloth bag was also wrapped around his waist at the time of the arrest," a police source said.

It is understood he found the bag after running out of the flat, and jumped into a taxi that took him to Kwun Tong. On Wednesday night, police were questioning the man, a new mainland immigrant.

The killing happened in a second-floor subdivided flat in Reclamation Street at about 3. 45 am. Police said the motive remained unknown. The victim. Li Jianfeng. Suffered multiple stab wounds, and a bloodstained knife was found at the scene.

"Initial examination showed she suffered more than 20 stab wounds to the neck and chest," said Superintendent Calvin Mohammed, acting assistant Yau Tsim district commander (crime). He said the suspect was believed to be a customer who went to the flat to buy sex.

"A woman heard the victim screaming and went to check. She found a man running out from the flat," the source said.

Li was found unconscious on the floor inside the flat. She was taken to Kwong Wah Hospital in Yau Ma Tei, where she was declared dead at 4. 18 am.

Li, holder of a two-way permit allowing travel from the mainland to Hong Kong and Macau, came to Hong Kong on Tuesday. The woman who found the body is a friend and also from the mainland. It is understood she alerted a male brothel-keeper, who called police.

Another police source said many subdivided flats in Yau Ma Tei, Tsim Sha Shui and Mong Kok were used as brothels for mainland prostitutes. "Each pays about HK $350 a day to rent a subdivided flat for the purpose of prostitution during their seven-day visit," he said. "They solicit clients on the street and offer sex services in such flats, which are used as their accommodation. ".

Immigration figures show that 2,502 sex workers, mostly from the mainland, were arrested in the first seven months of this year. A total of 2,685 were nabbed in the same period last year.

Police figures show there were 11 reports of homicide in the first six months of the year, compared with 13 in the same period last year. There were two reports of homicide in July and this month.

[QUOTE=DirtyHog;1765692]I will not be paying these prices, methinks I will stick to 141 girls, Temple St and surround walk ups, K pressure, Mongkok walk-ups, I will be in Wanchai just for beers and dance. Also Macau side trips.[/QUOTE]Your going to pay way more in Macau. Only cheap ones I had in Macau are the horney Viet Massage girl that comes over after shift, 141 Macau gals at MetroPark, Casa Real and other mid range hotels for 700-800 mop for 1 HR maybe or more like one pop and done.

The cheaper ones are definitely in Mongkok and surrounding areas.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1766001]... Need more at these times. LOL.[/QUOTE]Wow -- posts by Chantik, Jack the Lad 2 and Boarer, and all in row at that. Seems almost like good times. And yet the news makes it seem like HK will be a quick stopover (an escape from SexPrisonUSA) on the way to BKK, or AC or Jakarta / Bali, a side dish.

And not much in the way of the full meal, if even Wan Chai is lacking in talent.