Manila

[quote=sofiaydonna; 1402557]hi guys,

i'd like to introduce my self i'm sofia i live philippines city of manila, i am a partime escort. nursing student in 3rd level i'm 23 why / o well educated with pleasing personality, lovely, charming, well-trained and very discreet person. i am doing this because of my personal financial matters.

for my details:

-200usd for foreigner 2 pop for 3 hrs.[/quote]spot on sammon. $200 is p8000. college girls in the states go for less than that. the ones with blond hair sofia (and blue eyes). you're in asia, not new york city.

on a previous trip, i had a chatmate, mid-30's. attractive on cam. she had a niece who was a [nursing student! ], age 20. she wanted to bring the niece by for some hotel joy in exchange for donating p3000 to the family's needs. sure. the niece was a looker in the online pics she sent. i laid out what was expeced (that the chatmate would stay and take pics of the action) and everything seemed fine. we met in the mall, the three of us, and walked and talked a bit. the niece was indeed a hottie. the chatmate was a micf (mother i'd consider f-ing). i asked if they were hungry and we set off for mcdo. they said another girl, a friend of the niece, was in the mall and would be stopping by to say hi. standing in line in mcdo the second gal showed up, fresh in from class (another nursing student from a different school). wow, another looker. i paid the 700 for the food and we sat and ate. micf pulled me aside and asked if the second gal could join in the room, she needed 'a tuation fee'. she asked for p5000 total. i hesitated, wondering how much money i would have in my pocket after mcdo and drinks. i countered with 4000. she thought for a moment and said 'ok. we go soon your hotel. ' we finished the mcdo, stopped for some beer at 7-11, and were off. it was evening. we downed some beers and got down to action. we spent the next 45 minutes putting my white parts into the two nursing students, and sharing the camera. micf was having nothing to do with getting her clothes off, but she was keen and inquisitive with the camera usage. we all crashed on the queen bed in the mighty duck inn on del pilar. originally i had assumed they would go home, but it was not long until all 3 drunk pinay were asleep (micf fully clothed). out went the lights. i woke early as usual, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]'d, and laid down on the floor with a book (too crowded in the bed). i read for two hours. i remember the silence, the only noise was the moving of bodies on the bed as they rolled over. at one point i looked up and all three of them were spooning, slumbering, the micf between the two naked beauties. the other thing i remember was the stench of sex still in the air. they started to rouse about 9am. no breakfast requested. they wanted to get going. p4000 later, 'salamat po', and they were moving up the street.

lets total that cost: p4000+700 food+300beers = 5000 approximately. sofia, was that 200us a mistake? a typo? did you mean $20? like many of you, i've had multiple students happy to come by during 'tuition [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]' crunch time to make a quick 1000. but, its always possible some idiot who is just passing thru manila for a night will connect with sofia from craig's list and think the $200 is a good deal.

[quote=westcoast1; 1402832]spot on sammon. $200 is p8000. college girls in the states go for less than that. the ones with blond hair sofia (and blue eyes). you're in asia, not new york city.

lets total that cost: p4000+700 food+300beers = 5000 approximately. sofia, was that 200us a mistake? a typo? did you mean $20? like many of you, i've had multiple students happy to come by during 'tuition [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]' crunch time to make a quick 1000. but, its always possible some idiot who is just passing thru manila for a night will connect with sofia from craig's list and think the $200 is a good deal.[/quote]hopefully sofia and her classmates will all be reading this and going " oh wow. these guys here talk and discuss sex endlessly. and my what kuripots they are".

as was said earlier. in what way would sex be any different with a nursing student. they are not exactly a rare species as last year over 67, 000 filipinas took the nursing exams.

so sofia honey, good luck on your hunt for us$200 but most us here are a little older and wiser than you might think.

however dante might up your alley. and if you can show up in a rubber suit and guarantee no bodily fluids will get exchanged, theres a fella called pinkpearl who you might like to meet. lol

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1402838]However Dante might up your alley. And if you can show up in a rubber suit and guarantee no bodily fluids will get exchanged, theres a fella called Pinkpearl who you might like to meet. LOL[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Made my day!

WC

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1402838]However Dante might up your alley. And if you can show up in a rubber suit and guarantee no bodily fluids will get exchanged, theres a fella called Pinkpearl who you might like to meet. LOL[/QUOTE]LOL. Too funny, nicely woven in the multiple personalities.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1402832]We spent the next 45 minutes putting my white parts into the two nursing students, and sharing the camera. MICF was having nothing to do with getting her clothes off, but she was keen and inquisitive with the camera usage.[/QUOTE]Great story WC and fair fare on 4000 for LT menage a trois; perhaps Sofia will adjust her "advertised" rates accordingly, LOL.

I'm enjoying this exchange among West Coast, Freebie and the nursing student, who has lofty ambitions but a poor understanding of reality. My advice to her would be to find some newbie foreigner who knows nothing about the country and thinks that $200 is a bargain. She's totally wasting her time on this forum.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1402883]I'm enjoying this exchange among West Coast, Freebie and the nursing student, who has lofty ambitions but a poor understanding of reality. My advice to her would be to find some newbie foreigner who knows nothing about the country and thinks that $200 is a bargain. She's totally wasting her time on this forum.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. Its laughable. She would have to be something damned special to justify that price tag. Even Katy, the high class, half Ozzy, call girl who is at the top of my spoil myself rotten wish list, only has the temerity to ask 6k for 2 pops. And she is hot as hell.

[QUOTE=SofiayDonna;1402811]Well that is my price for foreigner and if you want to know my price in local its 4000 pesos.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your prompt answer. I'd like to know a little more about your reasoning behind your double pricing aka price discrimination. I often hear I should pay more than the locals in Philippines because of the color of my skin. I guess you are aware of the fact that there are many rich pinoys around, who could easily afford USD 200? As I understand it they would also get the "pinoy rate"?

[QUOTE=SofiayDonna;1402811]And I'm sorry I don't give my self for free ride.[/QUOTE]Of course, I understand that. It was just an example to make you better understand his usual budgetary considerations. The girls who fuck him in exchange for a free ride home have usually managed to get a few ladies drinks from foreigners earlier in the evening, so you might want to consider that part of the total renumeration package.

PS
You forget to comment on Trust Choco, did you ever use them with your pinoy bf? Not? What brand do you prefer?

[quote=freebiefan; 1402838]they are not exactly a rare species as last year over 67, 000 filipinas took the nursing exams.

[/quote]so plentiful are they that many end up working for free at hospitals for a year or more with the hope it leads to a paying gig. those who don't have the connections to get (er... buy) work in a gov't hospital end up heading to the gulf and hope that after 3-5 years they may be able to secure a work visa to canada. i know nurses with years of experience who happily accept caregiver visas to the uk.

[quote=sofiaydonna;1402817]guys who against with my rate please don't compare me...[/quote]honey, one learns very early in life to compare and contrast things. in fact, even you've done so by the very fact of your discriminatory two-tier pricing. of course in a free market a seller can set whatever price she wants, but one who actually desires to make a sale will understand the market conditions and adjust price and / or improve quality and service accordingly. seems to me your strategy is to rely on the windfall from the occasional dupe. is your p8000 fee just a number you pulled out of thin air or is it based on your research of market conditions?

anyway, i'm inclined to kick the tires, so to speak. what does the vagometer read? you know, how many hours of in-and-out action has your vagina undergone? what are you doing to regularly maintain your tool of the trade? daily kegels? luna balls? vaginal cones?

you're only mentioned condoms, 2 pops, and time. what else can a customer expect? any special skills? are you a gymnast or a contortionist? [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord121][CodeWord121][/url] enthusiast? a list of will-do and won't-do activities may help you make the sale.

[quote=hutsori; 1402948]s.

anyway, i'm inclined to kick the tires, so to speak. what does the vagometer read? you know, how many hours of in-and-out action has your vagina undergone? what are you doing to regularly maintain your tool of the trade? daily kegels? luna balls? vaginal cones?

you're only mentioned condoms. 2 pops, and time. what else can a customer expect? any special skills? are you a gymnast or a contortionist? [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord121][CodeWord121][/url] enthusiast? a list of will-do and won't-do activities may help you make the sale.[/quote]at the end of the day, she thinks she's special. but we learned mongers all know, she probably has the pre requisite parts but not much more to bring to the dance.

after all we've all heard the moaning, fake and real, we've all seen the pussies shaved part shaved or bald, we've all had both front and back entries, big and small boobs, fabulous and lousy blows. what can she bring that allows her to say "don't compare". unless its 3 boobs? conjectures on a postcard please.

First of all I would encourage you to have a good education and a nice reliable work forbyour future. Maby this audience inside ISG is not your crowd you should try to cater as many here are well known to pricesettings for various services provided.

I wish you good luck in your "offer" even if it for me stands out more in the line of regulations rather than a offer. You should focus more on what makes you so special. A genuine pick, not photoshopped, of yourself and offering A+ service along with some wetsex as an example to make you stand out from the rest of the pinay crowd. This will maybe justify your pricequoting a tad and I guess this will do good for your business.

Phil is the land of barebacking and most girls would not even mention use of condoms before sessions. This is your choice and I can nothing but to respect that. But once again. As long as you are not a porn star, hi so girl or former miss Quezon city. You have to do sth making you stand out. So far you are just a another girl trying to charge rediculess prices hoping to meet newbees mongerers (and maby you are successful. I wish you good luck).

Remember also you are operating in a 3 world country where everything is cheap. I may not belong to a pricesensitive crowd but as beeing a part time mongerer for the last 7 years (asia, south america and to some extent europe as well) I don't like paying way to much for service normaly priced a lot lower atleast if not sth very special is on offer and nursing is not special at all (and once again I get back to your regulations 2 pops and so on).

But in doing business it is no shame adjusting offers and service according to what the market is willing to pay so if you operate here just make some adjustments and everything will be fine. But I guess you have some other angels of providing your services as well as in various datingsites, private adds and so on.

But if I can have multiple backdoor poppings then we can meet in a few weeks when I return Manila. I like the GFE or PSE and in the morning I will leave a nice ammount of cash in your purse if you perform well. I can use lube if you like.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1403002]Phil is the land of barebacking and most girls would not even mention use of condoms before sessions.[/QUOTE]Mrs Skogis and Sofia may be in agreement you use condoms next time.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1402905]Couldn't agree more. Its laughable. She would have to be something damned special to justify that price tag. Even Katy, the high class, half Ozzy, call girl who is at the top of my spoil myself rotten wish list, only has the temerity to ask 6k for 2 pops. And she is hot as hell.[/QUOTE]Now that I've taken a shot at Sofia, allow me to also defend her a bit. There are always high-priced girls in the big cities. Remember the guy in NY city a few years ago, the mayor, or District Attorney, or Governor. He left office in disgrace when it was discovered he was spending lavishly on his expense account with call girls. Some of the girls were $4k / hour. I'm not sure what makes one girl worth $4, 000 to one man, and $75 to another man. They are just girls (albiet pretty).

A few years ago I was looking for a date for a local gala. The girls that I "friends w / benefits" with are older, modestly attractive. I thought it might be nice to go to the gala with a younger hottie. There was an ad on craigslist for an escort in the area, so I contacted her via email telling her what I needed. She wanted $200 for a 3 hour block of time for the gala. She didn't list an age, but she had described herself as "attractive, refined, perfect for all occasions." She said the $200 was for the gala only, and if I wanted more, then anything extra was $200 / hour after the gala. I asked for a pic, which she sent back. The pic showed a early-30's lady, tight-fitting dress, modest (at best) figure, plain face. $200 for this? The next day she sent an email: "Are we on for Saturday night? I have other clients and need to plan accordingly."

I was not sure what to do. I contacted a local junior college girl here, whom I've utilized before. She's happy with $75 for a quick in / out in the past. I was not sure if she was a right girl to take to a gala, as she might not have nice clothes for the evening. Also worse, she's a bit goth looking; tats and piercings. I called and explained that I needed a date for the event. She said sure, and didn't mention money. So I offered her $100 for the event and she said OK. I sent an email to the middle-aged escort saying that I would not need her for Saturday. She shot one back: "Thanks for ruining my weekend. My other client found another date. You're both assh*les."

The goth girl showed up at my place in a body-hugging off-the shoulder hugging dress that ended just below the butt. Almost too nawty. The piercings were gone and the tats covered. She had her regular small purse, and she also brought this huge purse, which I didn't look in, and we left at my place. Off to the gala. I was not sure how she would be recieved by the higher-end crowd, but there were a thousand people there, so who cares. At one point I was chatting with a city engineer and lost track of my date. Where did she go? Bathroom? Looking across the room I saw her chatting up a Councilman's wife. Sh*t no! They were both animated and smiling. When I caught back up to her I decided it was time to go. Drinks, chat, in / out in 30 minutes. Back at my place she said for $200 total she could stay the night."Its 9 o'clock. What now?" So we changed out of the nice clothes into jeans (that's what that large bag held; she was thinking ahead) and went out to: Denny's!

The moral of the story (or the reality of) is this: Its not the girl who is worth more, its the guy who is willing to pay her rate. One girl is fine with 200 for the night, the other will need 200 just for a gala. Its the men who make up this difference. If Sofia can command $200 in Manila, you go girl. But the girls often lie to customers and each other. Keep in mind Sofia's sister, cousin, or friends may be doing this also, for p1500, and telling nobody. A number of pinay Craigslist girls, escort girls, models, and contacts from gents right here, who advertise or claim they go for, say p5000/10000, have come to me and settled for 2000 (and returned and been happy with 1000 or 1500). A case in point will come up in the PG later.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1403046]Now that I've taken a shot at Sofia, allow me to also defend her a bit. There are always high-priced girls in the big cities. Remember the guy in NY city a few years ago, the mayor, or District Attorney, or Governor. He left office in disgrace when it was discovered he was spending lavishly on his expense account with call girls.[/QUOTE]His name is Elliott Spitzer. He was the governer of new york with a bright future. Him and his wife are extremely rich. He can throw $50000 out without even blinking.

Forget about big western cities or BKK or Tokyo. There are very expensive escorts there.

We are talking about Phi. At the moment known as cheapest, friendliest, GFE girls you can find anywhere. Even normal girls can be had cheaply irrespective of your age.

So somebody asking anything more than 3000 pesos better have something really good.

Dear Colleagues,

I apologize if I'm posting my question in a wrong place. I am almost ready for my trip to Manila and need to figure out where to change cash and how to get my smart phone turn into local Phil phone.

- Do I change all the cash in the airport, or only enough to get me to the hotel? Do I change the rest in the bank or at some change point?

- Do I get SIM at the airport? I would need SIM only to do some texting and some calls. No data (unless the latter is cheap).

Or should I get the SIM card in the city?

Many thanks for the advice!

A

Sofiaydonna is truly a prima donna. She had problems with her pimp because she refused to play by his rules and felt he was getting too big a cut of the trap money. She went freelance because her pimp got tired of dealing with an out-of-pocket ho who didn't respect the game. Now, Sofia is on ISG looking for suckers to buy her service with an attitude. It seems like she didn't learn anything about business under the tutelage of her pimp at Chozadate. So, here are some tips for Sofia:

1. Pussy is a commodity it doesn't matter if the owner can solve quadratic equations. All girls have pussy and can potentially enter the already saturated pussy market in the Philippines.

2. When selling pussy in a market where supply outstrips demand the buyers make the rules and set the price. This will continue to be the case until demand outstrips supply. With all the fresh pussy entering the market each day in the Philippines the market is unlikely to correct itself anytime soon. The favorite local past time continues to be breeding without regard to financial circumstances.

3. When selling in a commodity market branding and ancillary services are ways in which you can distinguish your product. You have to make your pussy stand out like a Louis Vuitton purse. And no, nursing doesn't do that for you. One gentleman suggested that you add value by offering unlimited ass pops. That's a good start, you could probably throw in unlimited deep-throat BJs with swallow to round out your $200 service package and extend the time to 8 hours.

4. Don't try to sell a service full of restrictions and limits to customers in market where the norm is bareback unlimited pops for a fraction of your asking price. Knowledgeable consumers will just laugh at you and move on to the vendor of a more reasonable service at a much lower price.

5. Charging foreigners more than twice as much for the same pussy you sell to pinoy trike drivers at a steep discount is not a way to interest foreigners in your business, especially when they know that pinoys are fucking you bareback but foreigners are expected to bring and use condoms.

6. Consider getting out of service oriented occupations. You're quite willing to discriminate against foreigners. If you manage to pass the nursing exam I pity the poor foreigner who ends up as your patient. I can just see some unfortunate geriatric expat being left to wallow in his shit or go without his medication because your priorities are rendering care to the Filipinos with less pressing issues first. You might even demand that your foreign patient pay you some extra money personally just to receive care. I don't think you score very high marks on your bedside manner.

7. Get another pimp and follow the rules next time. This independent thing clearly isn't working for you.