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Great list. Thank you very much. I already copied and pasted into my Evernote.

[QUOTE=Andre007; 1212403]Top Hills and Mountain View in Busay (My Area)

Zipline in Busay and also Liloan.

Sky Coaster at Crown regency which is next to Robinsons or next to Silver dollar.

Mactan beach resorts. I personally like the local cheap ones like Marigondon and Hadson Beach myself.

Mactan Beach Jet Ski and Parasailing.

Bantayan Island My number one pick and where the Govenor stays is Hoyohoy Villas.

Bohol Island. Tarsiars and Chocolate Hills.

Colon Street. Take a guide.

I am not into visiting churches but most people visit St Nino in Colon.

South Car Car for umpo and Chichiran (SP) Pork Skins. Beaches further south and resorts.

Southwest Moalboal Famous for water Falls and diving. Probably the Number 1 tourist destination in Cebu.

All I can think of right now. Pm me for more information.[/QUOTE]

Religious holidays kind of slowed the action down. Only the desperate ones are around. I still had my fun but quality went down.

My 23 yrs old keeping me very good company, but they all get clingy. Tonight I will meet two more girls from DIA. Never met them before. I need to go and put my charm on.

I followed this advice and I almost ended up with two ladyboys. Darn, they are so woman like. However, the voice and shoe size won't give them a break. .

[QUOTE=Bob Bowie; 1212794]Good advise from below, I will use it on the next trip.

"After smiling at you the girl will continue to walk and stop at the next corner. It is the invitation for you to approach her. If the girl does not stop she is not available."[/QUOTE]

I ended up with a #10 27yrs old women. No kids, very educated and so so in bed. But every time I looked into her body, I wanted to go more round. Thanks DIA. BTW, she would not even take taxi money from me. Talk about quality

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1212615]Well, there are always fireigners looking for girls at ayala. Ofcourse there are girls as well looking for a foreigner. Just be carefull as there are normal girls who smile with curiousity.

What I have observed is this although I have never picked a girl up mainly because I have a regular firlfriend every time I am in Cebu.

After smiling at you the girl will continue to walk and stop at the next corner. It is the invitation for you to approach her. If the girl does not stop she is not available. Sometimes girls do smile if you are eating alonf at one of the fast food joints.

Discos are tricky. The dealbreaker is usually the girls are hanging out with their friends and hard to say if they are having a good time or looking.

Not all guys get lucky at the mall or disco.[/QUOTE]Try the salesladies, it works for me. But as with most of them, it is hit and miss.

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1212888]I have put them in contact with Ausaid (

[url]http://www.ausaid.gov.au/country/cbrief.cfm?DCon=1148_8702_9418_7487_8517&CountryID=31&Region=EastAsia[/url]

) which details the many aid programs available.[/QUOTE]I hope you weren't serious in telling them that they can get "aid" through the AusAID link were you Jo?

They cannot.

I suspect you threw that in to show what a potentially useful and caring guy you really are LOL.

The Ambassador has a small discretionary fund that is used for special cases where properly constituted organizations might apply for and receive some "seed" money for a local project, but there will be nothing for laser surgery, burials or replacement of carabaos etc.

Their best hope for funds for local emergencies is their local congressman / woman or Senator. They have pork barrel funds that they use for these genuine emergency measures.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1213331]I hope you weren't serious in telling them that they can get "aid" through the AusAID link were you Jo?

They cannot.[/QUOTE]You are right. I was being fictitious in the name of humour. I was surprised by the level of creativity that they felt they had to use in order to get some cash from me. But while I was thinking about it I was surprised by how many programs Australia has running in the Philippines. I hope the aid does get to the right people.

SO, my thoughts are now that in order to have these ladies available for my regular trips, I also need to drip feed them in between. I'm not thinking marriage, I'm not thinking kids, I just want company when I am in town.

I think ayala mall has been over rated for meeting girls. I have been there at least 10 times on trips on my 2 trips in the last year.

I have met woman there. But have not been great quality at least the ones that approach me. I rarely approach, that might be the issue. Juliana Disco is my number one spot. Its open until 6 am or so. Just hang out long enough, they start approaching you after pickings get slim on foreigners. Robinsons mall was on fire my last visit but I thought it was a good pickup place. And right in the middle of the action. But on my next trip I will be back at ayala eating at the terrace. Great place to take dates.

Again the best exchange rate in town is in the basement of the ayala mall near the grocery store. It was. 3 pesos more per us dollar than the place one level up on the main floor.

Problem in such places is the decibel level, unbearable. By the way, where exactly is it?

[hQUOTE=Cuchulain; 1213663]I think ayala mall has been over rated for meeting girls. I have been there at least 10 times on trips on my 2 trips in the last year.

I have met woman there. But have not been great quality at least the ones that approach me. I rarely approach, that might be the issue. Juliana Disco is my number one spot. Its open until 6 am or so. Just hang out long enough, they start approaching you after pickings get slim on foreigners. Robinsons mall was on fire my last visit but I thought it was a good pickup place. And right in the middle of the action. But on my next trip I will be back at ayala eating at the terrace. Great place to take dates.

Again the best exchange rate in town is in the basement of the ayala mall near the grocery store. It was. 3 pesos more per us dollar than the place one level up on the main floor.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo;1213353]You are right. I was being fictitious in the name of humour. I was surprised by the level of creativity that they felt they had to use in order to get some cash from me. But while I was thinking about it I was surprised by how many programs Australia has running in the Philippines. I hope the aid does get to the right people.[/QUOTE]I think you mean " being facetious in the name of humour" LOL, but it's OK. I got your point hehe.

The Australian aid program is directed at "systemic level" support and NOT at individuals, although indirectly some of the smaller recipient groups do experience driect benefits.

The systemic level support is usually given through bi-lateral grants to relevant government agencies using managing contractors as intermediaries.

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1213663]Again the best exchange rate in town is in the basement of the ayala mall near the grocery store. It was. 3 pesos more per us dollar than the place one level up on the main floor.[/QUOTE]I will second that. They offered me the best rates and only one of a handful of places in Cebu that would exchange 500 Euro notes. None of the banks were willing to change 500 Euro notes. There was another place in SM Mall I cannot remember the name of, a small money exchange place inside one of the large departments stores on the ground floor (I think)

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1214278]I think you mean " being facetious in the name of humour" LOL, but it's OK. I got your point hehe.

The Australian aid program is directed at "systemic level" support and NOT at individuals, although indirectly some of the smaller recipient groups do experience driect benefits.

The systemic level support is usually given through bi-lateral grants to relevant government agencies using managing contractors as intermediaries.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. I was going to apply when I get there tomorrow afternoon. Now you've rained on my parade. Guess I'll have to ask USAID for a similar grant.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1214333]Sorry to hear that. I was going to apply when I get there tomorrow afternoon. Now you've rained on my parade. Guess I'll have to ask USAID for a similar grant.

GE[/QUOTE]Hahaha GE I am sure the US lads will give consideration to such an eminent fellow countryman and researcher as yourself to undertake some data-collection to bolster the future proposals and theses to be used by His Excellency Ambassador Thomas.

Us Aussies try to channel our funds towards such grand notions as "governance reform" and "poverty reduction", but success comes slowly.

[QUOTE=Henryv; 1214207]Problem in such places is the decibel level, unbearable. By the way, where exactly is it?

[hQUOTE=Cuchulain; 1213663]I think ayala mall has been over rated for meeting girls. I have been there at least 10 times on trips on my 2 trips in the last year.

I have met woman there. But have not been great quality at least the ones that approach me. I rarely approach, that might be the issue. Juliana Disco is my number one spot. Its open until 6 am or so. Just hang out long enough, they start approaching you after pickings get slim on foreigners. Robinsons mall was on fire my last visit but I thought it was a good pickup place. And right in the middle of the action. But on my next trip I will be back at ayala eating at the terrace. Great place to take dates.

Again the best exchange rate in town is in the basement of the ayala mall near the grocery store. It was. 3 pesos more per us dollar than the place one level up on the main floor.[/QUOTE]

Actually Ayala has been known to most of us who actually live here as the worst exchange rate of any place in town. My suggestions of two places that has always been the highest is 1. In Raintree Plaza which is directly across from National Book Store on Mango. Can't think of the name but is near the rear and you will normally find many people around. 2. Robinsons Place mall in the basement near the grocery store.

[QUOTE=Andre007;1214507]Actually Ayala has been known to most of us who actually live here as the worst exchange rate of any place in town. My suggestions of two places that has always been the highest is 1. In Raintree Plaza which is directly across from National Book Store on Mango. Can't think of the name but is near the rear and you will normally find many people around. 2. Robinsons Place mall in the basement near the grocery store.[/QUOTE]I think even a better rate can be had at the one at the WALK, in IT Park.

You are correct. The Raintree Mall money exchange is near Midtown Hotel and has an armed guard who locks the door each time a customer enters or exits. In fact, next to it is an excellent laundry service to take your dirty clothes if you are in Cebu for longer than a few days. They charge by the kilogram. I went to Cebu at least 2x every year for 15 years, and found the Raintree Mall, and also the Robinson's Mall under the Midtown Hotel, near the grocery store, as the best 2 places to exchange US Dollars. No hassle. Went to SM mall and they wanted to see my passport, wanted the serial numbers of all the bills, etc. Geez. If you are new to exchanging money, please know that you don't have to put up with that crap. But do take clean, crisp $100 bills for the best rates. Iron them before you pack them. Most places will use a printer / calculator to show you both the rate for one dollar, and the amount of pesos they will give you for your total exchange. That way there is no misunderstanding.

[quote=mr hawaii;1214659]in fact, next to it is an excellent laundry service to take your dirty clothes if you are in cebu for longer than a few days. they charge by the kilogram.[/quote]funny you mentioned them. they're called speedy laundry.

i dropped off some laundry at 10:00am expecting them to be done by noon the next day. when i went at noon the next day, they said i need to come back at 3:00pm. that's well over 24 hours and not exactly "speedy" laundry.

then again, i should remember that i'm in the philippines.

[quote=furryfriend; 1214662]funny you mentioned them. they're called speedy laundry.

i dropped off some laundry at 10:00am expecting them to be done by noon the next day. when i went at noon the next day, they said i need to come back at 3:00pm. that's well over 24 hours and not exactly "speedy" laundry.

then again, i should remember that i'm in the philippines.[/quote]heck, one time they lost my shirt. i found it myself in the wrong pile, not even washed yet. you go in there enough and they will remember you. was 1 young girl and an older girl about 5 yrs. ago. most of us mongers have the $$ to just let the hotel do our laundry, and most of the hotels do an excellent job. all offer same day service (rarely needed) for a premium, or next day for "cheap" compared to usa

i used to love this place because they would deliver the done laundry to the nearby hp hotel. but then one day my fav jag shorts went missing. when i mentioned it with some lovelys at the nearby bars, they just laughed and said,"it is being sold at carbon market this weekend."

in all fairness i'm not sure if the jags were lifted by the cleaning staff at hp hotel (before i went to the laundry) or the laundry. x.

[quote=furryfriend; 1214662]funny you mentioned them. they're called speedy laundry.

i dropped off some laundry at 10:00am expecting them to be done by noon the next day. when i went at noon the next day, they said i need to come back at 3:00pm. that's well over 24 hours and not exactly "speedy" laundry.

then again, i should remember that i'm in the philippines.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Mr Hawaii;1214659]You are correct. The Raintree Mall money exchange is near Midtown Hotel and has an armed guard who locks the door each time a customer enters or exits. In fact, next to it is an excellent laundry service to take your dirty clothes if you are in Cebu for longer than a few days. They charge by the kilogram. I went to Cebu at least 2x every year for 15 years, and found the Raintree Mall, and also the Robinson's Mall under the Midtown Hotel, near the grocery store, as the best 2 places to exchange US Dollars. No hassle. Went to SM mall and they wanted to see my passport, wanted the serial numbers of all the bills, etc. Geez. If you are new to exchanging money, please know that you don't have to put up with that crap. But do take clean, crisp $100 bills for the best rates. Iron them before you pack them. Most places will use a printer / calculator to show you both the rate for one dollar, and the amount of pesos they will give you for your total exchange. That way there is no misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]Mr. H,

The Midtown Hotel has since been renamed with possible ownership change. It is now called Summit Circle Cebu.

[QUOTE=Andre007;1214507]2. Robinsons Place mall in the basement near the grocery store.[/QUOTE]This is my preferred money changer. Many times they don't display the exchange rate because it changes several times a day. Last September an attempted robbery by an out of town gang went bad with two security guards going down and becoming heroes.

[url]http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=724301&publicationSubCategoryId=107[/url]

For sure, it an hopping place. Lots of Korean's and Arabs. Many girls for everyone. Freelancer, semi-pros, freebees. One older lady offered a 18 yrs old to me for p1500. I am only interested on freebees and I passed on. However, they gave me a very sexy dances right by my table. Great place to pick up ladies. Sunflower is a waste of time but they do have very good bands if you just like to enjoy the music.

Lots of freelancers are around. Especially by Figaro's and Bo's Cafe. Also lots of ladyboys and you just need to be careful. It is amazing to see how many Westerners and Arabs are interested on ladyboys. I am happy for them, more selection of ladies for me.

Any of you gentlemen met this girl?

Looked very promising before her baby girl but things can change fast.

She is up for meetings, since I have had at least one appointment with her, that fell through. Maybe someone here is even dating here and would like Barba to keep away from her juicy jugs?

B.

[QUOTE=Barba; 1216594]Any of you gentlemen met this girl?

Looked very promising before her baby girl but things can change fast.

She is up for meetings, since I have had at least one appointment with her, that fell through. Maybe someone here is even dating here and would like Barba to keep away from her juicy jugs?

B.[/QUOTE]. And I will swap her for the 25 Nigerians you owe me for. I have it in writing that I found them for you but I certainly didn't receive the money!

[QUOTE=Spanish Main;1216928]. And I will swap her for the 25 Nigerians you owe me for. I have it in writing that I found them for you but I certainly didn't receive the money![/QUOTE]I dream of the day I will have 25 Nigerians. All with mega tits. Spanish Main, I will return for a safari.

B

[QUOTE=D Cups;1216949]Very nice, thanks. Is she lactating. I may have to put Cebu back on the to do list for this visit.[/QUOTE]I am not sure when these pictures where taken. I will PM you her details.

B.

Went there last night and the number and quality of the girls was down. One of my friends was working so I paid the 500 for her and 150 for the go to guy. I still say it is tame and as it is well lit very safe, I was on a motor bike, I had to pull out my wallet and hand over a 1000 to get 500 change and then get the 150 out to pay the guy. My money and credit cards where in full view but no one even looked. I still stress do not go there unless you take a local expat. Maybe I feel safe as the people there know me.

Just not many girls there atm, the girl I know was the best pick.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1217018]I still stress do not go there unless you take a local expat. Maybe I feel safe as the people there know me.[/QUOTE]Please read carefully what Frenzy says here. He lives in Cebu and he is experienced in moving around the "bottom-feeders", (and I say this in a nice way and without intent to insult or flame Frenzy).

I will never return to the basketball court after a harrowing experience even when accompanied by a local expat (and I live in the Phils too).

It is way too risky for me.

I asked about this place to local girls and they told me that it was close to Colon Street. However, it is a kind of place most local Pinoys doesn't go there due to criminal activities. If you are just a tourist, you need to stay away from places like that unless you are looking for trouble. While you can find lots of girls in Mango Square, Ayala Mall or IT Park, why would you go to a place like that?

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1217076]I asked about this place to local girls and they told me that it was close to Colon Street. However, it is a kind of place most local Pinoys doesn't go there due to criminal activities. If you are just a tourist, you need to stay away from places like that unless you are looking for trouble. While you can find lots of girls in Mango Square, Ayala Mall or IT Park, why would you go to a place like that?[/QUOTE]I didn't go into the basketball court area either because it looked too dangerous.

But you don't have to. There are plenty of streetwalkers near Colon and Palaez. There are too many pedestrians and cars on that corner for anything bad to happen and I never felt unsafe. However, I did feel dumb because I was clearly the only pervert. Most people probably knew I was there for mischievous reasons.

If a pimp approaches, you can just ask him to bring the girls out to you instead of venturing into the basketball courts.

[QUOTE=Barba; 1216938]I dream of the day I will have 25 Nigerians. All with mega tits. Spanish Main, I will return for a safari.

B[/QUOTE]And doubtless they will all be working for a bank that has an account with twenty billions dollars in it belonging to a prince that has just died and how lucky to have met you because you can have twenty percent of the money if you marry one of them and give your bank details to her father who is a catholic bishop in charge of an orphanage that has just burned down and needs only ten thousand dollars to save the lives of the disabled children so if you send ten thousand dollars now to Doctor the Reveerand Sir Kevin Dobson who although is Nigerian and has an English name spelled wrongly he will give all the princes money in return for showing him how to write a letter that has some punctuation in it.

If you were here now this could be your finger instead of (or as well as if that floats your boat) mine. Not Nigerian but a very pliable 30 euro's worth of sexy Romanian. I hope to see you soon.

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1217076]While you can find lots of girls in Mango Square, Ayala Mall or IT Park, why would you go to a place like that?[/QUOTE]Because the Junquera girls will work for 300 (her end. 500 yours) , while Ayala 1000-1500, and MS girls ask 2000 for ST. One could ask the converse of what you asked. Two sides of the coin.

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1217076]I asked about this place to local girls and they told me that it was close to Colon Street. However, it is a kind of place most local Pinoys doesn't go there due to criminal activities. If you are just a tourist, you need to stay away from places like that unless you are looking for trouble. While you can find lots of girls in Mango Square, Ayala Mall or IT Park, why would you go to a place like that?[/QUOTE]I have SEEN lots of girls at I T Park, but scoring with them is another story. These are the middle class elite and they have little interest.

In foreigners looking for tonight's girlfriend.

[QUOTE=Questor55; 1217195]I have SEEN lots of girls at I T Park, but scoring with them is another story. These are the middle class elite and they have little interest.

In foreigners looking for tonight's girlfriend.[/QUOTE]I have picked many girls at it park, I think its a good place, as they stop work about 5/6 am, but its all about luck I think, or in the right place at the right time, as you walk about there, having breakfast, on the block where the disco is, is the best place, picked up there 1 morning, back to room breakfast later, so text ed late afternoon to say Hi, hope you had a good sleep etc, next thing started getting texts from some one saying he was her husband, not to contact, all that shit, so I texted back only 1 time, that she was so so hot then blocked the nos he / it was using, so you never no?

There is a squatter area near it park and bar girls also go to the disco arround there so like any place here there are chances you can pick up a girl. Behind mac donalds near water front I have found girls who needed money but they are not there all the time. You need to sit there and wait and watch.

The food places are easy to meet girls but like malls and "good" girls they take time to get the I have problem text. And some are just want the wife offer. Which I am not offering.

All in all I would not recommend it park to meet p4p. The spot behind mac donalds have a look but only if you are in it park.

[QUOTE=Spanish Main; 1217104]And doubtless they will all be working for a bank that has an account with twenty billions dollars in it belonging to a prince that has just died and how lucky to have met you because you can have twenty percent of the money if you marry one of them and give your bank details to her father who is a catholic bishop in charge of an orphanage that has just burned down and needs only ten thousand dollars to save the lives of the disabled children so if you send ten thousand dollars now to Doctor the Reveerand Sir Kevin Dobson who although is Nigerian and has an English name spelled wrongly he will give all the princes money in return for showing him how to write a letter that has some punctuation in it.[/QUOTE]Gee, seems like you can read the contents of my spam folder LOL.

I always reply to these fine fellows offering a phone number and details of a fictional bank with equally fictional bank account number. Love it when they reply and say " sorry sir, but the number seems incorrect "

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1217316]There is a squatter area near it park and bar girls also go to the disco arround there so like any place here there are chances you can pick up a girl. Behind mac donalds near water front I have found girls who needed money but they are not there all the time. You need to sit there and wait and watch.

The food places are easy to meet girls but like malls and "good" girls they take time to get the I have problem text. And some are just want the wife offer. Which I am not offering.

All in all I would not recommend it park to meet p4p. The spot behind mac donalds have a look but only if you are in it park.[/QUOTE]You live here so you should know there is 4 discos withn 5/10 min walk of IT PARK, but the girls I meet work in the call centers.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1217316]There is a squatter area near it park and bar girls also go to the disco arround there so like any place here there are chances you can pick up a girl. Behind mac donalds near water front I have found girls who needed money but they are not there all the time. You need to sit there and wait and watch.

The food places are easy to meet girls but like malls and "good" girls they take time to get the I have problem text. And some are just want the wife offer. Which I am not offering.

All in all I would not recommend it park to meet p4p. The spot behind mac donalds have a look but only if you are in it park.[/QUOTE]I think I T PARK is one the best places to pick a non working girls, as all the girls are working at the call centers and the ones I pick or take out are not in it for the money, and any one looking for a wife or gf there is plenty to pick from if you have the right smile and know how to be polite

There is maybe another 3/4 call center towers and condos being nearly finished so there is going to 1000s girls working in the area.

And its 24hrs, and I not talking about behind mcds,

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1217150]Because the Junquera girls will work for 300 (her end. 500 yours) , while Ayala 1000-1500, and MS girls ask 2000 for ST. One could ask the converse of what you asked. Two sides of the coin.[/QUOTE]No problem getting Ayala girls for 500-1000 ST. Maybe bargain a bit, but never turned down. Guys, make an effort to keep

The prices reasonable. Remember and etch it into your brains. Most girls (the minority who do actually have jobs) , get paid.

LESS than 1500 for a six day week!

I don't think there is a price for a personal safety when you travel. It may be OK for an experienced ex-pat to deal with a problem but not for a tourist.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1217150]Because the Junquera girls will work for 300 (her end. 500 yours) , while Ayala 1000-1500, and MS girls ask 2000 for ST. One could ask the converse of what you asked. Two sides of the coin.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1217316]All in all I would not recommend it park to meet p4p. The spot behind mac donalds have a look but only if you are in it park.[/QUOTE]Frenzy,

Agreed IT park is a horrible place to pickup and not worth the time. Call center agents (CCA) are some of the best jobs a local can hope to secure and as such they are well paid and will not risk there reputation. There are squatter areas located near IT park such as Apas and those girls will most likely be the girls who are willing to p4p. Again every situation is different and a younger gwapo guy will always attract more attention and advances in IT park than the older wrinkled brigade. YMMV.

Also most call center agents have BF's or MU's who work as call center agents as the hours and lifestyles match so lots of eyes always around.

I've never paid more than 500p for ST girls found at Ayala or Robinsons. Bastards don't be driving the price up before I can return.

[QUOTE=Paulr1950; 1217366]I think I T PARK is one the best places to pick a non working girls, as all the girls are working at the call centers and the ones I pick or take out are not in it for the money, and any one looking for a wife or gf there is plenty to pick from if you have the right smile and know how to be polite

There is maybe another 3/4 call center towers and condos being nearly finished so there is going to 1000s girls working in the area.

And its 24hrs, and I not talking about behind mcds, [/QUOTE]You and I will disagree as "best place" I am telling the guys about p4p, hope you meet your future wife on the street at IT park and invite me to your wedding.

As for picking up non working girls call centre jobs are in the highest paid jobs in huge numbers on offer to pina, only IT pays better.

FYI Silver Dollar bar is now renamed Maverick's bar & Grill.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1217520]FYI Silver Dollar bar is now renamed Maverick's bar & Grill.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that Stroker but I betcha taxi drivers and us mongers will always know it as Silver Dollar.

Bit like Eddies Hotel. It's been Beverley Boutique for 2 years now but everybody still calls it "Eddies's".

Some things just don't change hehe.

How do you pick up Cebu girls online? Any website you know that are good.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1212535]Just my two centavos, but there seems to be alot more scruffy looking foreigners hanging around Ayala and Fuente Osmena with that "lost jet-lagged" look. These guys are sometimes in the company of tambok (fat-chubby) older women and when I walk past with my 23yr old thin and very gwapa GF with long hair and even longer legs they shoot me dirty looks. Too bad.

Seems to me the recent flooding in Thailand has made guys change there plans last minute and now the result is Thai bound guys wandering around the malls and streets hoping to catch the eye of a sexy student or two but this is a bad time to try to wing it. Only older hardened pros patrol the malls now. I sat at Greenwich Ayala and watched the guys walk around and around working up a sweat but nothing else. Just my observations, I could be wrong but I doubt it.

On the surface the conditions seem perfect. The schools are on semestral break and so the streets should be full of young students just hanging out waiting to be approached but this week is the 'all saints, all souls' National Holidays and so alot of the students are spending time back in the Province or local cemeteries.

Cebu is a city where its is essential to meet the top quality girls online before your trip. Just showing up limits you to gogo bars and street fishing, and fishing can be no fun when the fish are not biting.[/QUOTE]

On a related note, some guys talk about picking up sales girls at the malls, but one sees very few specifics. I had a GF once working at a mall. I would pick her up a few minutes after closing time at the employee exit. I was one of a couple of hundred guys on motorcycles waiting for their wife or GF. So when you're chatting up that pretty girl at the counter, ask her about her situation.

[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1217253]I have picked many girls at it park, I think its a good place, as they stop work about 5/6 am, but its all about luck I think, or in the right place at the right time, as you walk about there, having breakfast, on the block where the disco is, is the best place, picked up there 1 morning, back to room breakfast later, so text ed late afternoon to say Hi, hope you had a good sleep etc, next thing started getting texts from some one saying he was her husband, not to contact, all that shit, so I texted back only 1 time, that she was so so hot then blocked the nos he / it was using, so you never no?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seyyes;1217591]How do you pick up Cebu girls online? Any website you know that are good.[/QUOTE]Get yourself on tagged. Com, set up a profile with 2-3 pictures of yourself and some basic info.

1. Search for the age group of lady that you want in Cebu.

2. Send a few messages like "Hi, I'm in Cebu and looking to take someone out to dinner, could you be that special lady?" or words to that effect.

3. Have 3-4 bantering messages with them, don't mention fucking or sex! Mention romance, holding hands and free food and being close to your hotel.

4. Ask for their mobile number if they haven't given it to you by that stage.

5. Arrange to meet them at SM or Ayala Starbucks 1 hour apart and then just cancel the other ones.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Seyyes;1217591]How do you pick up Cebu girls online? Any website you know that are good.[/QUOTE]First, welcome to ISG.

Second, RTFF! Loads of great info if you just read back a few months. Under the Philippines section you will find a thread called [b]CHAT ROOMS AND PENPALS[/B]. Go read 20 of the most recent pages and you can find what you want.

Third, I never said you can pick them up online, just meet them online and become friends, the picking up part could happen when you meet and can depend on your age, looks and game (or lack of). Again YMMV.

Also to the guy staying in the next room to me thanks for waking me up at 550am this morning. You started to bang the living crap out of your GF as she was screaming and moaning her head off and your head board was about to break through the wall. I smiled and woke up my GF and we both had a good laugh when the banging only lasted for 6mins, way to go stud, LOL. Then you asked her if she was going to "charge her phone" and I laughed out loud as I wondered if you meant for her to put her phone on vibrate to finish the job. I will also appologize in advance for keeping you awake for several hours tonight with the sounds of my head board and GF.

[QUOTE=Seyyes;1217591]How do you pick up Cebu girls online? Any website you know that are good.[/QUOTE]Join dateinasia. Com It is free. There are loads of girls from Cebu and surrounding areas. Send messages to one or all who interests you. If you post a nice pic there will be lots of girls sending you messages as well. Be upfront about your requirements.

Do not promise them the world. Sex is natural with Phi girls. None of the girls who agreed to come to hotel room refused sex.

If sex is what you are looking for suggest them to come to your room. If you are looking for long term love interest maybe better meet somewhere else and get to know her.

Only problem about meeting first at public places is sometimes they show up with friends and relatives who want a free food. You always pay the check. It is impossible to have one on one conversation. Forget about asking her to come to your hotel. She has her reputation to protect.

Not all girls are interested to be seen with a western guy. The girls will check you out to see if they can scam you into sending them money. Do not send any money to the girl you have not met and liked irrespective how what they promise. Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1217520]FYI Silver Dollar bar is now renamed Maverick's bar & Grill.[/QUOTE]Probably not a good idea to change the name of a long time storied institution like SD.

Sounds like the owner has a fixation with the great state of Texas!

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1218545]Probably not a good idea to change the name of a long time storied institution like SD.

Sounds like the owner has a fixation with the great state of Texas![/QUOTE]Just what I said in Post 6112 Mattrick.

I will always think of it as Silver Dollar.
The owner is an Aussie so I doubt that he has a Texas fixation. I think he inherited the name "Lone Star" when he took over that bar, so maybe he just wants to stick with some sort of theme, although a "Maverick" is not exclusive to Texas or the Wild West.

Maverick has fewer sylabbles than Silver Dollar. I like the new name. I also suggest we immediately call it MAV, since that is even fewer sylables.

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1218545]Probably not a good idea to change the name of a long time storied institution like SD.

Sounds like the owner has a fixation with the great state of Texas![/QUOTE]

Depends on the person. You have to smooth. I met several ladies around IT Park and they like to associate with foreigners.

[QUOTE=Questor55; 1217195]I have SEEN lots of girls at I T Park, but scoring with them is another story. These are the middle class elite and they have little interest.

In foreigners looking for tonight's girlfriend.[/QUOTE]

a couple of weeks ago, frenzy3 was copping a heap of criticism for his posts about his lifestyle, his neighbourhood, his girls, **** sex, and just about everything else that could be slung at him.

just to set the record straight, i have recently been to his house, walked in his neighbourhood, met a number of his girls (plus others) , met the tiny woman who was the butt of accusations about **** sex, and all of the rest.

everything that he says about his lifestyle is true.

been there, done that.

g

i guess i'll give you guys the details of a 6 week trip to the phols and if you can get any benefit from it, all the better. i need to say that my primary purpose in cebu is not mongoring, it's business, but a monger is a monger no matter where he is and why he is there. just some backround. i have posted on this site years ago in the philippines and more recently in the usa but you can read those old posts as you see fit. i am married to a fantastic filipina who is not with me, and whom i miss a lot on this long trip. so your first question might be if he thinks his wife is so great, which she is, why cheat on her? well this type of mongering that i am about to share is not real cheating by my personal definition. you may say that i'm rationalizing or justifying or hypocritical. whatever. i am in love with my wife and these girls are merely sport.

period.

so i landed in manila and checked into a hotel for a night before heading to cebu. i wanted to see a girl i met on facebook. research in places like fb or myspace, or the now defunct friendster, or the new dating in asia are the key to my style of mongering. i do not pay for pussy, unless i make an exception which i occasionally do. i go on these sites, make friends with girls, chat them, get their cell numbers and have a list of 20+ numbers before i even land. you need that many cause filipinas are bold online but when it comes to actually meeting f2f, they chicken out.

i called this 21 year old from fb and she came to my place. we went to eat and then returned. she is not my usual type. she had a child already. i'm a tit guy and after girls have a baby their tits deflate and i am not desperate for pussy and can pick and choose. but she was cute and after we arrived back at my place we turned on the tv and i soon made my move. bad kisser, not a good sign. she was self conscious about her pooch so the shirt stayed on. but then i entered her and she was really tight. this was after 1 minute of head. so 3 strikes. bad kisser, shy, and no cim but the tightness made up for it. i pulled out and blasted on her stomach after about a minute. i should have been at lexington and concord because i'm the original minute man. i wanted to sleep but she kept grinding her ass into my joint and i could not resist. i fucked her 3x and again in the morning. four orgasms for a guy near 60 in less than 12 hours. yeah baby. when we parted, she started to lay this sob story about school being expensive. i told her to quit and gave her 500peso for travel and load. she texted me daily for a month but i ignored her. i needed to get to cebu.

this was an emergency trip so i could not rent a condo as i usually do, so i had to stay in a hotel, expensive but necessary. i went to my little black book and called another milf who kinda tricked me. her photos were old and she was 20 pounds heavier than i expected. she came to my place and we watched a movie. i made my move and she was willing and we did a few positions and i blew my load in a condom. problem with her was the weight and the fact that she would not stop talking about her ex bf who texted 20x during the 2 hours. this chick asked for cab fare when she left and i gave her 200pp about 5 bucks. she never called me again. saw her today at the mall and she did not recognize me.

so i'm here in cebu and it's time to take care of biz. i am not that interested in chasing girls and wining and dining. and i do not go to bars and get prostitutes. no moral issue. i have paid for women many, many times, but i simply learned other ways than at bars. and i also have changed with age and have been laid so many times that getting laid by a prosti kinda turns me off sometimes. i much prefer a a professional massage with a hand job. it gives me pleasure, makes me come, and it's over in an hour. i don't need to talk to them. all pluses. so, here is what i did for the next 4 weeks. 1) d aviary on escario st between the parclane and golden peak hotel. supposedly for gays but they have at least 3 different ladies working. ask for dove. she is the only licensed therapist there and gets the kinks out and offers hj or bj if she goes to your hotel. 280pp + 500 for the hj. note, they all ask for 1000pp for hj but just say its 500. 100% accept 500. went to her 3-4x. now i said that i don't pay for it but 780pp or 18 usd, i don't consider paying when your getting a 1hour pro massage and hj for 18 bucks,"paying" for it but if you do, ok, my bad. then i tried k-1 but they're legit. then i tried the parlour that took over a bar fine bar on ramos st, chuva chuva at 900pp w hj included. very pretty girls but the massage is lacking. so you get but sacrafice. never went back. next was the place across the street from the diplomat hotel, also on ramos st. now there is a massage place right in the diplomat. not there. and another called meridian at street level across the street, but i'm talking about the place in the little strip mall in the back of the parking lot. not sure the name. 500pp for entrance and the girl was a licensed masseuse. wanted all the way for 1500 or 1000 for covered bj but i only wanted a hj. 500 and out. never went back. then i found good earth in mango square. 200pp for massage. been there 3x and twice had reall massage but the 3rd was in need of training. very pretty girls gave me 500pp hjs and a chubby one gave me a horrible bbbj for 1000 but w the massage at 200 you can't lose.

so that was about 5 weeks worth of action and then i wanted some prime rib of beef. i pulled out my list of 20 girls between 18 and 24 and started hunting. calling, texting, emailing. all these girls are gorgeous and took weeks of hard work to get their numbers. but the doctor is not having success. these girls are "good girls" and want to meet me but want me to meet parents, sisters, brothers etc. you need to play these girls like they are prize winning marlins, man, but if you land one you get the prize. so finally, i get this 20 year old student to meet me and she brings her 2 sisters. we drink coffee and i buy them lunch. so she asks what will we do after the mall. i say we can go to my place and watch tv. she says ok but i say she needs to ditch the sisters. she says ok. she is one of those 5' 95 pound spinners with long curly hair and a perfect body, perfect skin, large be or small see boobs and a decent face. for 4 of the next 5 days she. lets put it this way, i'm still looking for my brains. and it would have been 5 out of 5 but i called time-out after the 3rd day. i made the 1st move the 1st day. she played a little hard to get, then it was all her from then on. never asked me for a dime. and if i said go home cause i needed to work she just went. the only reason i ended it with her was because another honey is flying down here from manila tomorrow and i want some variety. sweet girl. wants to be an actress / singer. wonder if i'll see her on tv some day.

so, another spinner comes into town tomorrow and then i'll be back in manila, then back to usa.

hope you get something from this report.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1210841]Good to see you posting again! Hilarious description of a stunt I hope you never needed to use. The Philippine BG version of 'making it rain'.[/QUOTE]Nice trick. I keep a pocket full of small change. When approached by gangs of beggars / thieves I empty it on the ground.

Hi. I'm back to the forum after a long hiatus.

I am glad to see Stroker, X Man, FreebieFan, GoodEnough and all the rest are still alive and well and posting.

Miss you all guys. Good to be back.

Hope this the correct place to post this. Thinking of spending New Years in Cebu. Any suggestions of cool places to go or do on New Year's Eve?

[QUOTE=Rob Raxcal;1221402]Hope this the correct place to post this. Thinking of spending New Years in Cebu. Any suggestions of cool places to go or do on New Year's Eve?[/QUOTE]RR,

I have spent New Years Eve (NYE) in Cebu and can provide you with some info. First if this will be your first trip to Cebu it is not really a good time to visit. The Philippines has a very close family structure and most if not all girls will stay at home and celebrate with family or go home to the province. If you have met the girl before most likely she will ask you to come to her home to spend New Years eve with them and that can be a good experience or a bear trap, again YMMV. If you choose to go to her house expect you will be hit on to provide the basics like a few cases of SM or red horse beer, a few bottles (or many) of tanduay, lechon baboy, lechon manok and the list goes on and on.

If you decide not to go to a girl's house for NYE your best bet will be to buy a ticket to a hotel party and there are lots to choose from. Most have a buffet menu and some kind of open bar. It is best to book one that is over-looking so you can watch the spectacular fireworks display that seems to go on and on for 30 mins around midnight. Crown Regency Fuente and Marco Polo hotels are two that will have great views.

The bar scene is hit or miss, but mostly miss as most of the families spend the night together. Around 1pm some of the younger crowd will excuse themselves from the family party and head for the bar to be with friends, but most are already very drunk well before midnight. Some bars around mango will announce NYE parties but again it is hit or miss.

The gogo bar scene is dead as alot of the girls go home to the province for the holidays and alot of the bars do not even bother to open but it depends on the bar.

Again if this is your first time in Cebu expect almost all the girls to tell you they will be ok to meet but between Christmas and a few days after NYE they will flake on you as family commitments will be the priority.

[QUOTE=Rob Raxcal;1221402]Hope this the correct place to post this. Thinking of spending New Years in Cebu. Any suggestions of cool places to go or do on New Year's Eve?[/QUOTE]Hi. I was there last yr for Christmas and new year, it was my first, and only time, as, just about every bar and resto was closed. I had to go many places just to get some thing to eat, so I will not be going to Cebu at those times again, or if I do will book into Marriot, Marco Polo.

Memories come flooding back in. New Yars sucks in Phillipines, especially if you don't have something pre-arranged. I went expecting huge crowds, but boy was it dead!

Stay away.

[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1221615]Hi. I was there last yr for Christmas and new year, it was my first, and only time, as, just about every bar and resto was closed. I had to go many places just to get some thing to eat, so I will not be going to Cebu at those times again, or if I do will book into Marriot, Marco Polo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler; 1221821]Memories come flooding back in. New Yars sucks in Phillipines, especially if you don't have something pre-arranged. I went expecting huge crowds, but boy was it dead!

Stay away.[/QUOTE]Wow, thanks to all for the info. Perhaps I will plan to be in Manila instead. Or any suggestions?

Sorry Rob, it applies to Manila too. But if you are there, grab something quick and early. Havana or Burgos. I will be there this New Years Day. Trying to get something arranged.

[QUOTE=Rob Raxcal;1221946]Wow, thanks to all for the info. Perhaps I will plan to be in Manila instead. Or any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

I have been in the Philippines for a month now and every day is an adventure. Sometimes things don't work and other times everything falls into place. I have been coming here since 1981 when I was 26 years old. This is my 20th something trip in those years mostly 1 week sprints where I was banging as many girls as humanly possible. This time I am here for a good 6 months but my goals are the same. As I discussed earlier I look much younger then my age. To answer x-man's question every girl I meet I ask her to guess my age and the responses so far have been between 32-45. Nobody has guessed higher then 45. In fact I am 56 and my preferences are 18, 19 year old spinners. I love petite girls with pretty faces. If they had a baby, or smoke or have tattoo's I am not interested.

My first 2 weeks were spent in Manila but Cebu has always been my favorite destination. I have been here for 2 weeks now and Sunday was one of those good days. On Saturday I met a chat mate in Robinson's food court. I was floored when this stunning beauty entered with her ordinary friend. She is 5' 6'.110 pounds, just turned 18 in October. Definitely a head turner. In her first year of college she was in a beauty contest for her college. There were 47 entrants, she came in 2nd place. We had lunch and hung out at the mall for a bit when I took them back to their place. I offered to take her out later that night which she agreed to go but right before I was going to meet her she came up with the typical Filipino bullshit excuse that her mother was sick and she couldn't leave. Of course that took a hundred text messages, you guys know the deal. I figured this beauty wasn't interested and was ready to move on. That night at 1:00 in the morning which luckily had me alone at the time she texted me that she wanted to come over to my place. She came to my hotel and in about 5 minutes times we were banging away. Where else can one meet such an exquisite creature. After 3 intense sessions I bid goodbye to her in the late morning and in the early afternoon I ventured out into the streets of Colon where I stay. I met a 20 year old spinner who was dressed for action and had a quick session with her. She said she was in Colon because a good friend texted her to say she was fighting with her foreign boyfriend. However her friend was not answering her texts and calls so she was just hanging out. I gave her 700 p. And she promised that she had a lot of friends for play in her place so we exchanged cell numbers.

That night I hit the Waterfront casino where I play blackjack on their one blackjack table. There was a young Korean girl standing behind me with 5 100 pesos in chips. She was watching a few minutes so I told her to play a chip or 2 on my hand. She looked at me like I was crazy but after a few more minutes she dived in and won so she sat down next to me. I was able to start a conversation found out she was studying english there and then her friend came over and I had both of them playing on my hand. In a few minutes another of their friends came over. I stopped when I had a 5, 000 profit and they stopped at the same time. I wish I could tell you that these 3 cute korean girls came back to my hotel. I offered to buy take them dinner but they declined. I did give them my cell and well this is the Philippines so you never know. I did establish a good rapport with them, and if I bump into them again I think there is potential.

Since it was only about 9 o'clock and I had an extra 5, 000 pesos on me I figured I would hit a bar. I decided to try Hot Lips and bought a cute 19 year old a drink. In my many years of selecting a bar fine I always look for the freshest face. She met my requirements, no baby, no tattoos and she did not smoke. Plus she was smoking hot and was willing to go overnight for 2, 500. What the hell, I had an extra 5, 000 so I bar fined her and had a great time with this lovely girl who stayed with me until the early morning. The chat mate beauty is apparently already in love with me but tomorrow I head to the province where I have another chat mate who I am not interested in sexually but she needs money for school and I told her I would help her out if she set me up with some girls. Her text to me was "your wish is my command". Sounds promising so I had head out and continue the ever ending pursuit of beautiful female companions. Just another day in paradise.

[QUOTE=Levdog; 1223897]I have been in the Philippines for a month now and every day is an adventure. Sometimes things don't work and other times everything falls into place. I have been coming here since 1981 when I was 26 years old. This is my 20th something trip in those years mostly 1 week sprints where I was banging as many girls...[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to update in such detail. 20 trips, that is good going. If you are back in Cebu in January, let's catch up so we can share that "stunning beauty" cell number*winks.

It truly is an amazing country.

levdog, welcome to the filipines again!

[quote=levdog;1223897]where else can one meet such an exquisite creature. after 3 intense sessions i bid goodbye to her in the late morning[/quote]two years ago i met a chatmate for a drink. she's luscious, but very immature. she brought a friend (of course) , unannounced. i thought them both immature, and possibly ****. they wanted to go to another place, a disco, and off we went. after a bit i was sure i should dump her and head off. i thanked them for a lovely time, dropped two p500 notes on the table to pay for the drinks and told them to keep the rest. i walked out to the street, waiting on a taxi to come by. out walks this real head-turner who had been dancing on the dance floor with about 5 other head-turners. out of the blue she says,"me evelyn." i was dumbstruck. mid-20's, looking like a '9' to me. i almost was unable to talk."h-h-h-i" was what i muttered. its rare a girl's beauty stymies me, but it did. she stared at her shoes and asked me where i was going. i told her back to malate to bedrock bar."i heard it. its nice place maybe. i can come on you?" omg! stunning and wants to come on me! i cracked up, i think she meant to ask if she could come with me. she did. i said sure. she said "wait," and ran into the disco to grab her purse. that started a 4-day run with a stunner who had only seen me for a few minutes in a disco, left boldly to stay with me (a stranger) , and stayed for days without asking for money (i paid for appetizers and drinks several times for her friends. the group of foxes we kept going out with. a man could die happy). where the f*ck else does this happen? mahubay, again levdog, to pilipines!

[quote=levdog; 1223897]and in the early afternoon i ventured out into the streets of colon where i stay. i met a 20 year old spinner who was dressed for action and had a quick session with her. she said she was in colon because a good friend texted her to say she was fighting with her foreign boyfriend. however her friend was not answering her texts and calls so she was just hanging out. i gave her 700 p. and she promised that she had a lot of friends for play in her place so we exchanged cell numbers.[/quote]a white man walking the colon / palaez area is going to get mauled from sw. they range in age from about 12, to older, and from fine to ugly. they always have a friend, and there is a mama who hangs in the area. one tiny thing kept after me everytime i left the hotel. i just smiled and walked off each time. one time she just walked into the hotel with me, then on to the elevator, and up to the room. when she walked in she started stripping before the door was closed and walked into the shower for a rinse. when she came out, my mind told me she was probably a minor, so i told her she had to go. she just smiled, dressed, asked for a tip (haha) and walked out. it was in the same area that i met a girl who brought me several others (pics on photogallery).

[quote=levdog; 1223897]just another day in paradise.[/quote]some call it the wild west of sex.

Great post Levdog. Guess my age? I'm terribly sorry to bust your bubble but most Asians will subtract ten years in order to aovid any conflict or loss of face. It's their culture.

You probably figured that out on your own, but it makes for a good read anyway. Thanks for the report. X.

[QUOTE=Levdog; 1223897]I have been in the Philippines for a month now and every day is an adventure. Sometimes things don't work and other times everything falls into place. I have been coming here since 1981 when I was 26 years old. This is my 20th something trip in those years mostly 1 week sprints where I was banging as many girls as humanly possible. This time I am here for a good 6 months but my goals are the same. As I discussed earlier I look much younger then my age. To answer x-man's question every girl I meet I ask her to guess my age and the responses so far have been between 32-45. Nobody has guessed higher then 45. SNIP

[/QUOTE]

For you cebu regulars, is it best to avoid coming during the festival in Jan, I think it's 12th. 16th or something?

Is it too busy or is it not something that needs to be avoided?

Cheers

[quote=westcoast1; 1224061]levdog, welcome to the filipines again!

a white man walking the colon / palaez area is going to get mauled from sw.

when she walked in she started stripping before the door was closed and walked into the shower for a rinse. when she came out, my mind told me she was probably a minor, so i told her she had to go. she just smiled, dressed, asked for a tip (haha) and walked out.[/quote]it's not just a "white man" walking into the area. anyone who looks remotely foreign will get mauled. i'm asian-american and every time i'm there, they'd stalk me. it's weird seeing a girl follow me from across the street.

by the way, if you suspected she's a minor, weren't you afraid of getting busted? there's a philippine law stating that any adult in a room alone with an unrelated minor can be charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. you could have been set up for a sting. in your experiences in cebu, how worried should i be about being a victim of a sting?

[quote=furryfriend;1224456]by the way, if you suspected she's a minor, weren't you afraid of getting busted? there's a philippine law stating that any adult in a room alone with an unrelated minor can be charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. you could have been set up for a sting. in your experiences in cebu, how worried should i be about being a victim of a sting?[/quote]good question. some of the girls appear very young. after the girl left, i went back down to the street to walk a few blocks to jollibee. i stopped at the front door of the hotel to talk to the security guy. i asked if the girls from the street were ever a problem. he crooked his head towards the mama across the street and said that she ran the girls, and there had never been a problem with the girls in the hotel. he said the woman knows that if there is ever a problem with a guest that her girls cannot come back into the hotel. who knows if he's telling the truth, but since i've tipped him before, he has no reason to lie.

[quote=furryfriend; 1224456]it's not just a "white man" walking into the area. anyone who looks remotely foreign will get mauled. i'm asian-american and every time i'm there, they'd stalk me. it's weird seeing a girl follow me from across the street.

by the way, if you suspected she's a minor, weren't you afraid of getting busted? there's a philippine law stating that any adult in a room alone with an unrelated minor can be charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. you could have been set up for a sting. in your experiences in cebu, how worried should i be about being a victim of a sting?[/quote]generally it is not a sting by police. some hotels ask you to register a girl and need to show i. the. this might protect you somewhat but if the girl and her pimps are intent on extorting you there is nothing you can do but pay up before police gets there. they are also more interested in settlement because if the police are involved they take big slice of the pay off.

cebu probably is safer than manila. but general rule is if somebody looks **** just avoid her to begin with. once she is in the room you are already screwed if it is a scam.

[QUOTE=TravelSessions; 1224399]For you cebu regulars, is it best to avoid coming during the festival in Jan, I think it's 12th. 16th or something?

Is it too busy or is it not something that needs to be avoided?

Cheers[/QUOTE]You probably mean Sinulog usually held on the third Sunday of January but celebrations last the whole week. My advice is avoid like the plague I was there in January. There are plenty of posts on the subject if you search back, so I will not repeat what has been said many times by me and other members.

[quote=sammon;1224605]generally it is not a sting by police. some hotels ask you to register a girl and need to show i. the. this might protect you somewhat but if the girl and her pimps are intent on extorting you there is nothing you can do but pay up before police gets there. they are also more interested in settlement because if the police are involved they take big slice of the pay off[/quote]i would imagine shady cops would recruit these street girls to do their bidding.

also, it seems the girl is more likely to extract a bribe or a bigger one if cops are involved. sure she can get p2000 on her own. but she can get p200000 with cops (she comes out wayyyyy ahead even if the cops take a cut).

granted, it seems **** scams are most prevelant in angeles and manila. there appears to be few reports of this kind of scamming in cebu. still, i'm the paranoid type.

how reliable is philippine id? i doubt colon street girls carry any id at all.

[quote=sammon; 1224605]. .

cebu probably is safer than manila. but general rule is if somebody looks **** just avoid her to begin with. once she is in the room you are already screwed if it is a scam.[/quote]interesting news item yesterday (although i agree with your comment samm)

[url]http://ph.news.yahoo.com/cebu-city-province-highest-crime-volume-central-visayas-014005398.html[/url]

i don't know what the comparison with manila and other parts will be, but as is pointed out, and it's not rocket science, the bigger the population then the more crimes there will be

[QUOTE=TravelSessions;1224399]For you cebu regulars, is it best to avoid coming during the festival in Jan, I think it's 12th. 16th or something?[/QUOTE]Sinulog 2012 is Jan 6 to 15.

[url]http://www.sinulog.ph/index.php/schedule-of-activities-2012/[/url]

I've been in town for One of these, and it seems I will be there again next Jan. I enjoyed it overall.

- Got tickets to "Miss Cebu", deluxe seats close up, purchased the afternoon of the show. Also took my girl to a rock concert that week. Again easy to get tickets. Philippinos do know how to do a beauty pageant!

- Spent an evening at the big square downtown. There was a music festival there. Lots of fun and street barbecue. No worries with the crowd.

- Was going to watch the main parade, but when I told my girl to expect to walk a mile, she lost a lot of interest! Haha we watched it on tv. I was in a hotel near the mall (Parklane) , and it would have been possible to walk up to the parade route, but then you would be standing the entire time. OTOH, being 5'10", no problem having a view!

- It seems the organizers come up with a particular theme music for the festival, and all the competing performers have to do their own version of it. The theme can get tiresome (you hear it Everywhere) , but you can think of it as a kind of week-long rave / trance.

- All over town, in the hotels, airport, and malls, they have the festival decorations out. Its a lot more party oriented that Easter that's for sure. Plenty of good photo and video ops.

- Other than the parade day, I had no problems getting a taxi, except when I was staying on Mactan island. Its been talked about that taxi's don't like to go over there, esp late, as they don't get a fare back. From now on I am staying in town. Thanks for reminding me to get my hotel reservation in.

[QUOTE=TravelSessions; 1224399]For you cebu regulars, is it best to avoid coming during the festival in Jan, I think it's 12th. 16th or something?

Is it too busy or is it not something that needs to be avoided?

Cheers[/QUOTE]Last year I was in Cebu the week prior to Sinulog. I am a regular, well known guest at my particular hotel, having stayed there at least twenty times. I was informed, very apologetically, that they were fully booked during Sinulog, other than certain 'deluxe' rooms that were priced at a 500 % increase! That's right, A 3000 peso room was 15000 pesos during the festival! Therefore, book immediately and ascertain that you're getting the regular rate.

[QUOTE=Questor55;1225101]Last year I was in Cebu the week prior to Sinulog. I am a regular, well known guest at my particular hotel, having stayed there at least twenty times. I was informed, very apologetically, that they were fully booked during Sinulog, other than certain 'deluxe' rooms that were priced at a 500 % increase! That's right, A 3000 peso room was 15000 pesos during the festival! Therefore, book immediately and ascertain that you're getting the regular rate.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the info. I'm going to avoid it this time and get there after the 16th.

Cheers

That the first time I have heard that. I will ask some other hotels as it a great time to be here more girls plenty of eye candy. I enjoy it apart from traffic but Cebu is so small you can walk.

[quote=furryfriend; 1224456]it's not just a "white man" walking into the area. anyone who looks remotely foreign will get mauled. i'm asian-american and every time i'm there, they'd stalk me. it's weird seeing a girl follow me from across the street.

by the way, if you suspected she's a minor, weren't you afraid of getting busted? there's a philippine law stating that any adult in a room alone with an unrelated minor can be charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. you could have been set up for a sting. in your experiences in cebu, how worried should i be about being a victim of a sting?[/quote]generally speaking when you barfine a girl out a well known bar that is your safest option. you still have to guard against the girl stealing your phone or wallet but you are more likely to have problems with a runner or bad performance from a bar girl.

if you pickup on the street that is alot more dangerous. the scam that has been going on in cebu for awhile now is one where the girl will approach you on the street. she will be good looking and will seem very interested in you and promise to be your lbfm in the hotel room and she will agree to almost any price so be wary of girls who say the common phrase "up to you". in most cases the girl will not be **** and look 19+ and when asked for i d she will carry a fake school i'd with her age being 19+ and this will set the monger at ease. when you take the girl to your room she will hold her phone in her hands and text the hotel name and the room number to someone.

once in the room she will take a shower and come out and be playful and then take pics with her phone of herself in a towel or on your bed with you in the background. she will have sex with the monger and while the guy is deep inside her someone will begin to pound and scream at the hotel room door. it will be her family, most likely an uncle or aunt who along with a police relative will get the hotel staff to open the door to reveal you and the girl together. the girl will cry and the family will be upset. the police will take you to the station and tell you that you are in alot of trouble and there might be a way out of the mess. they will show you the evidence, her cell phone pics and her fake school i'd which will show her as 17yrs old. the 19+ i d she showed you will be no where to be found. amount demanded will vary but you are going to pay no matter what.

the newest scam involves motocycles. in the past 6 months there has been an explosion of foreigners renting or buying motocycles to get around cebu. one gang opperating in and around cebu have been targeting foreigners and the scam goes like this.

they see a white guy on a motorcycle and so they position a car in front of the motocycle and then slam on the brakes causing the motocycle to bump into or sometimes crash into the car. the driver of the car gets out and is upset even if there is no damage, at this point they demand payment for repairs just as a police officer arrives on the scene who is involved with the gang. they don't care if you are hurt or not but the police officer will demand you pay the car driver to fix his car. the amount is generally around the 20-30k pesos mark and from what i have been told they try this scam successfully once a week. so if you drive a motorcycle in or around cebu be careful.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1225935]Once in the room she will take a shower and come out and be playful and then take pics with her phone of herself in a towel or on your bed with you in the background. She will have sex with the monger and while the guy is deep inside her someone will begin to pound and scream at the hotel room door. It will be her family, most likely an uncle or aunt who along with a police relative will get the hotel staff to open the door to reveal you and the girl together. The girl will cry and the family will be upset. The police will take you to the station and tell you that you are in alot of trouble and there might be a way out of the mess. They will show you the evidence, her cell phone pics and her fake school I'd which will show her as 17yrs old. The 19+ I D she showed you will be no where to be found. Amount demanded will vary but you are going to pay no matter what.

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They see a white guy on a motorcycle and so they position a car in front of the motocycle and then slam on the brakes causing the motocycle to bump into or sometimes crash into the car. The driver of the car gets out and is upset even if there is no damage, at this point they demand payment for repairs just as a police officer arrives on the scene who is involved with the gang. They don't care if you are hurt or not but the police officer will demand you pay the car driver to fix his car. The amount is generally around the 20-30k pesos mark and from what I have been told they try this scam successfully once a week. So if you drive a motorcycle in or around Cebu be careful.[/QUOTE]Someone recently posted that we shouldn't post negative stuff about filipinos: they might get mad at us. Yet, they do these kinds of things. As long as the culture is scam-oriented, there will be negative posts.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1225935]The newest scam involves motocycles. In the past 6 months there has been an explosion of foreigners renting or buying motocycles to get around Cebu. One gang opperating in and around Cebu have been targeting foreigners and the scam goes like this.

They see a white guy on a motorcycle and so they position a car in front of the motocycle and then slam on the brakes causing the motocycle to bump into or sometimes crash into the car. The driver of the car gets out and is upset even if there is no damage, at this point they demand payment for repairs just as a police officer arrives on the scene who is involved with the gang. They don't care if you are hurt or not but the police officer will demand you pay the car driver to fix his car. The amount is generally around the 20-30k pesos mark and from what I have been told they try this scam successfully once a week. So if you drive a motorcycle in or around Cebu be careful.[/QUOTE]This one has been going on for a long time in Jakarta. Only its white guy driving and Indonesian on the bike. I the Indo version guy falls off bike in great pain, crowd assembles etcetc.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1225982]Someone recently posted that we shouldn't post negative stuff about filipinos: they might get mad at us. Yet, they do these kinds of things. As long as the culture is scam-oriented, there will be negative posts.[/QUOTE]I do not consider my post as being negative, but more of a realist perspective because these things are happening daily. The average guy who spends a few days a year in Cebu has no clue what's really going on as everything seems good on the surface and my post is meant to inform.

I generally agree that posting negative things about filipinos is a slippery slope and should be done selectively and without general bias towards the people as a whole as both good and bad intentioned people can be found in every part of the World with alot of grey areas in between.

This article a few weeks ago made me LOL, and it provides a typical example of the way things work in the Philippines.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2011/11/25/cop-deals-stolen-vehicle-192450[/url]

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1225982]Someone recently posted that we shouldn't post negative stuff about filipinos: they might get mad at us. Yet, they do these kinds of things. As long as the culture is scam-oriented, there will be negative posts.[/QUOTE]isn't the world we live in scam oriented?

C'mon guys, all Filipino scams added together are not even 10% in value compared to Madoff's scam and when it comes to the scam that our governments and banking systems are running on us, the Filipino scams are not even worth mentioning.

Chill out guys at least these people have the excuse of poverty. What's the excuse of the others that really take the skins off you?

[QUOTE=Frenchmen; 1226053]C'mon guys, all Filipino scams added together are not even 10% in value compared to Madoff's scam and when it comes to the scam that our governments and banking systems are running on us, the Filipino scams are not even worth mentioning.

Chill out guys at least these people have the excuse of poverty. What's the excuse of the others that really take the skins off you?[/QUOTE]

What are you trying to say? That we shouldn't talk about Philippine scams because there's scamming everywhere?

The objective of this discussion is to share information that can keep our butts out of a Philippine prison or prevent us from being extorted money we cannot afford.

- Pointing out that Maddof is a bigger scammer is utterly irrelevant and does nothing to achieve that objective.

- Whether the scammer has a good reason to scam is irrelevant either.

- Does bitching about banks and the financial system contribute to this discussion? Nope.

Come to think of it, I don't think there's one word in your post that is relevant or even remotely helpful.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1225982]Someone recently posted that we shouldn't post negative stuff about filipinos: they might get mad at us. Yet, they do these kinds of things. As long as the culture is scam-oriented, there will be negative posts.[/QUOTE]It was me who posted about the negative personal attacks. Writing about scams was not mentioned in my post.

You of all people should know insulting people due to race is not on, we are all humans.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1226067]What are you trying to say? That we shouldn't talk about Philippine scams because there's scamming everywhere?

The objective of this discussion is to share information that can keep our butts out of a Philippine prison or prevent us from being extorted money we cannot afford.

- Pointing out that Maddof is a bigger scammer is utterly irrelevant and does nothing to achieve that objective.

- Whether the scammer has a good reason to scam is irrelevant either.

- Does bitching about banks and the financial system contribute to this discussion? Nope.

Come to think of it, I don't think there's one word in your post that is relevant or even remotely helpful.[/QUOTE]My post is as helpful as the post to which I replied that was saying that the Philippines is a scam-oriented society.

If saying that you think will help someone with anything, be my guest and * as much as you want and convince yourself that the filipina that cons you of 20 bucks is worse than your government that cons you of your life's savings and maybe forces you to retire in the PH because you can't afford to live in your country anymore.

I think the only helpful info would be specific info about what kind of tricks the con artists can work on you and how to avoid it, bashing a nation doesent help in any way.

[QUOTE=Frenchmen;1226695]If saying that you think will help someone with anything, be my guest and * as much as you want and convince yourself that the filipina that cons you of 20 bucks is worse than your government that cons you of your life's savings and maybe forces you to retire in the PH because you can't afford to live in your country anymore.[/QUOTE]Just because I'm scammed by my government doesn't mean I'm open to being scammed on vacation. Don't try to justify or downplay one wrong by pointing out something else is more wrong.

If this forum was designed to talk about rugby and we criticize the Philippines, you'd have a point another us bashing the country. But this is the Philippines subsection of a mongering forum. A discussion of Philippine culture is highly relevant in maximizing our enjoyment and avoiding pitfalls in this thoroughly miserable country where a vast majority want to escape.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1226713]Just because I'm scammed by my government doesn't mean I'm open to being scammed on vacation. Don't try to justify or downplay one wrong by pointing out something else is more wrong.

If this forum was designed to talk about rugby and we criticize the Philippines, you'd have a point another us bashing the country. But this is the Philippines subsection of a mongering forum. A discussion of Philippine culture is highly relevant in maximizing our enjoyment and avoiding pitfalls in this thoroughly miserable country where a vast majority want to escape.[/QUOTE]How do you avoid pitfalls by saying that Philippines is a scam based culture?

[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1226713]Just because I'm scammed by my government doesn't mean I'm open to being scammed on vacation. Don't try to justify or downplay one wrong by pointing out something else is more wrong.

If this forum was designed to talk about rugby and we criticize the Philippines, you'd have a point another us bashing the country. But this is the Philippines subsection of a mongering forum. A discussion of Philippine culture is highly relevant in maximizing our enjoyment and avoiding pitfalls in this thoroughly miserable country where a vast majority want to escape.[/QUOTE]"avoiding pitfalls in this thoroughly miserable country where a vast majority want to escape"

First the pitfalls are well covered in these forums only add real experiences not hearsay

If it so miserable why do you visit here?

No one I know living here wants to escape, please show me where the vast majority are packing up and leaving.

I repeat again your negative attitude about PI is getting tiresome. Either add real experiences, photos or real reports about sex as it is called "internationalsexguide" for a reason

Scams go with the territory. If not, I suggest you find another sport. As far as scams are concerned, Cebu is tame compared to places like Havana, Cuba. Personally, I expect the hustle from the bargirls. I expect to be approached everyday with some sob story or half-assed swindle. My metaphor is the running back with a football in his hands. I'm trying to score. Getting offended by someone trying to tackle me isn't going to get me over the goal line. Sure, I get a little pissed on occasion when the hustle is on. However, all is forgotten when I have a beautiful 90lb Pinay licking my balls. So, let's get back to the game and move the ball in the right direction.

CC

[QUOTE=Frenchmen;1226722]How do you avoid pitfalls by saying that Philippines is a scam based culture?[/QUOTE]Did I say everyone in the Philippines is out to scam me? I've stated many times that a majority of people are good. Nevertheless, there's nothing wrong with sharing strategies to avoid the few bad apples.

Saying that the culture has a lax work ethic, which has been one of my claims all along, does not mean I believe the culture is generally criminally-minded.

Here's a story from Cebu that some senior member might appreciate. I was meeting a DIA contact at the SM mall for lunch. She brought her drop dead gorgeous 19 yo cousin. Who was from the province. This cute little cousin didn't speak much English but she was sure nice to look at. As my DIA contact and I chatted over lunch, two things became obvious. First of all, my DIA friend wasn't interested in making my bed and her cute cousin was impressed with my cheap Nokia cellphone. At the end of lunch, I didn't beat around the Bush. I took a chance and asked that cute little cousin if she'd like a cellphone in exchange for an afternoon of naughty fun. To my suprise, the DIA contact didn't seem at all offended, when her cousin agreed. She just left the restaurant after I promised I'd take good care of the little darling. After waving goodbye it was off to the store. I spent a little over 1000 ph on the phone and sim. Then it was off to the Alpa Suites to unwrap my new toy. I have to admit, that little country girl was a dream. Petite and tight was the best way to describe her. It was funny how she kept wanting to do it doggie style so she could play with her new toy. I didn't mind because her perfect bottom was a treat to look at while I pounded her little pussy. When she left, I gave her an extra 500ph for transportation and load. Well worth it. I love this game!

CC

1. Also Avoid easter week, I wasted 3 days of my trip because of this. Yikes. Was suprised Thursday and Friday were the worse day but easter Sunday almost everything open.

2. Some one talked about protection advice. I just found the best thing its call a Screach alarm. Man its loud and small. I think between that and my pepper spray. I can hold off the ladyboys. Maybe even the kid gangs that hang out around the sogo. Accross the street there is places for them to hang out at night. This is where I see all the purse snatches as well.

If I ever move to cebu, I am bringing Cans of bears spay and and AK, just like the security guards. Rarely do people mess with someone that owns an ak47.

3. The scam does get old, my first trip I was just amused by it, my second trip It started to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off. But as I told one guy, it is not like these people are rocket sceintist, You can usually see it coming a mile away.

My gf wonder why I would get upset the taxi driver was trying to screw me. I asked her is she would get upset if it was her getting screwed and she said of course she would. WTF. I guess I am a big white atm machine. Good thing I dumped her.

4. The downtown area did not seem as loaded as I heard with working girls. I did see some, most I wouldn't fuck or touch. I few cuties. But mostly low quailty street walkers.

5. I am preparing for my next trip and I am looking to add to my list of pay4play girls on Dia, If anyone wants to exchange 5 to 10 dia names of girls who are wiling to pay 4 play. I have a good size list.

Happy hunting guys I love cebu, not to big but lots of available action. And you can find gf types if you want. As well as one of the most affordable cities in the world. I met a guy my last trip from the uk that lived on 500 pesos a day.

[QUOTE=Chicochulo; 1226800]Here's a story from Cebu that some senior member might appreciate. I was meeting a DIA contact at the SM mall for lunch. She brought her drop dead gorgeous 19 yo cousin. Who was from the province. This cute little cousin didn't speak much English but she was sure nice to look at. As my DIA contact and I chatted over lunch, two things became obvious. First of all, my DIA friend wasn't interested in making my bed and her cute cousin was impressed with my cheap Nokia cellphone. At the end of lunch, I didn't beat around the Bush. I took a chance and asked that cute little cousin if she'd like a cellphone in exchange for an afternoon of naughty fun. To my suprise, the DIA contact didn't seem at all offended, when her cousin agreed. She just left the restaurant after I promised I'd take good care of the little darling. After waving goodbye it was off to the store. I spent a little over 1000 ph on the phone and sim. Then it was off to the Alpa Suites to unwrap my new toy. I have to admit, that little country girl was a dream. Petite and tight was the best way to describe her. It was funny how she kept wanting to do it doggie style so she could play with her new toy. I didn't mind because her perfect bottom was a treat to look at while I pounded her little pussy. When she left, I gave her an extra 500ph for transportation and load. Well worth it. I love this game!

CC[/QUOTE]That was hot. Lucky you have encountered like that. Wish to have one too.

[QUOTE=Chicochulo; 1226800]Here's a story from Cebu that some senior member might appreciate. I was meeting a DIA contact at the SM mall for lunch. She brought her drop dead gorgeous 19 yo cousin. Who was from the province. This cute little cousin didn't speak much English but she was sure nice to look at. As my DIA contact and I chatted over lunch, two things became obvious. First of all, my DIA friend wasn't interested in making my bed and her cute cousin was impressed with my cheap Nokia cellphone. At the end of lunch, I didn't beat around the Bush. I took a chance and asked that cute little cousin if she'd like a cellphone in exchange for an afternoon of naughty fun. To my suprise, the DIA contact didn't seem at all offended, when her cousin agreed. She just left the restaurant after I promised I'd take good care of the little darling. After waving goodbye it was off to the store. I spent a little over 1000 ph on the phone and sim. Then it was off to the Alpa Suites to unwrap my new toy. I have to admit, that little country girl was a dream. Petite and tight was the best way to describe her. It was funny how she kept wanting to do it doggie style so she could play with her new toy. I didn't mind because her perfect bottom was a treat to look at while I pounded her little pussy. When she left, I gave her an extra 500ph for transportation and load. Well worth it. I love this game!

CC[/QUOTE]Wow sounds great. If you are willing to share her number I can do the same with some girls in angeles and maybe one or two in cebu? I am in cebu now and you could inbox me

No. They're not into anal. I can assure you that.

I have been to Manila and AC a few times. This is my first trip to CEBU. I have looked and looked and did not see any places like LA CAFE that are a must to go to. So let me ask this. WHat are a few of the good pick up bars? Are there Go go bars in cebu? And where can I find the 18 year old girls at? So maybe a few massage parlors and what not. So if you have a minute maybe give me a little "to do" list to go by.

I also like lotus and city garden hotel in manila. Is there anything of that nature in Cebu?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=George Sims;1228795]I have been to Manila and AC a few times. This is my first trip to CEBU. I have looked and looked and did not see any places like LA CAFE that are a must to go to. So let me ask this. WHat are a few of the good pick up bars? Are there Go go bars in cebu? And where can I find the 18 year old girls at? So maybe a few massage parlors and what not. So if you have a minute maybe give me a little "to do" list to go by.[/QUOTE]First, its been a while since you were in Manila. The former LA Cafe is now Manila Bay Cafe (MBC) , for about 1. 5 years. The main pickup place in Cebu seems to be Juliana's disco, in Mango Square. Its got a combo of freelancers and regular girls and guys there to drink and dance. Bunch of gogo bars on Mango; tell the taxi driver to take you to Vikings bar (about 6 gogo bars right next to each other). The barfine there is about p1800. If you want cheap street girls, either the downtown corner of Colon / Paleaz streets, or the Junquera basketball court.

[QUOTE=George Sims; 1228795]I have been to Manila and AC a few times. This is my first trip to CEBU. I have looked and looked and did not see any places like LA CAFE that are a must to go to. So let me ask this.[/QUOTE][font=courier]Just curious as to why you picked Cebu to visit?[/font]

[QUOTE=George Sims; 1228795]WHat are a few of the good pick up bars?[/QUOTE][font=courier]Any of the various discos at Mango Square or IT Park. [/font]

[QUOTE=George Sims; 1228795]Are there Go go bars in cebu?[/QUOTE][font=courier]There is a cluster of go go / bikini bars on Mango Avenue also known as Gen. Maxilom[/font]

[QUOTE=George Sims; 1228795]And where can I find the 18 year old girls at?[/QUOTE][font=courier]Virtually everywhere but start at Mango Square or the malls. Be careful and check ID's if need be. [/font].

[QUOTE=George Sims; 1228795]So maybe a few massage parlors and what not.[/QUOTE][font=courier]Meridian or Duke's Spa. [/font]

[QUOTE=George Sims; 1228795]I also like lotus and city garden hotel in manila. Is there anything of that nature in Cebu?[/QUOTE][font=courier]Cebu Grand, Crown Garden, Century Plaza and Diplomat on the cheaper end. Elizabeth, Parklane and Crown Regency Fuente on the upper end. [/font]

I can only add to advice below which is right on. Pumps 1, mixer of koreans, regulars and pros. Another disco called sunflower have not bee there but heard more towards a date place until late. Cebu in mostly strip jionts. As said bar fine 1, 800. 00 peso, Short time or long. Taxi money home if needed. Go to SM, Robinson, and Ayala malls. During the day. Sit at coffe shops and watch the eye candy. You will see the pros and the curious. You have a great hotel list allready Hi end and normal price. I like cebu. It is not as crowded as manila, you can be out in the country in 30 minutes north south or moutians to the east. But it has everything minila does. Except 2 million homeless kids living on the street. Which just is depressing to see all the time. It is in cebu but so little you have to look for it.

When leaving the airport. Go out the doors all the way to the right. Go up the stairs and stand in line for the metered cab. They actually give you a fair shake in Cebu.

And in Cebu do not try speak Tagalog

[QUOTE=Redman69;1229007]When leaving the airport. Go out the doors all the way to the right. Go up the stairs and stand in line for the metered cab. They actually give you a fair shake in Cebu.[/QUOTE]At the airport, they will try to direct you to an airport "yellow" taxi. The "yellow" taxi meter rate is nearly double the "white" taxi meter rate. For this reason, I'd recommend getting a "white" taxi unless there are none available and you don't want to wait for one.

[QUOTE=Yujin;1229038]At the airport, they will try to direct you to an airport "yellow" taxi. The "yellow" taxi meter rate is nearly double the "white" taxi meter rate. For this reason, I'd recommend getting a "white" taxi unless there are none available and you don't want to wait for one.[/QUOTE]What's so special about yellow taxis?

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1229015]And in Cebu do not try speak Tagalog[/QUOTE]What is wrong with speaking Tagalog in Cebu? It is the national language of the Philippines. I haven't visited Cebu yet, but I have used Tagalog in chats with many girls from Cebu. All of them seemed to be impressed by the fact that I knew Tagalog.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1229015]And in Cebu do not try speak Tagalog[/QUOTE]I use Tagalog in Cebu and it has never caused me any grief.

Not sure why you make this point Frenzy.

Is it a warning or is it simply to say that Bisayan speakers won't understand you?

I would doubt that since TV programs and movies are all in Filipino (except for the local news updates) and shown all over the Philippines.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1229054]What's so special about yellow taxis?[/QUOTE]Yellow Airport Taxi: 70p flagdown rate- 4. 50p.

White Cebu Taxi: 40p flagdown rate-3. 50p

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1229083]Yellow Airport Taxi: 70p flagdown rate- 4. 50p.

White Cebu Taxi: 40p flagdown rate-3. 50p[/QUOTE]I know the yellow taxis charge more. But why? Do yellow taxis offer something special? Because when I took the yellow taxi, the asshole tried to drive without turning on the meter. So getting a more honest driver doesn't explain the higher fare.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1229113]I know the yellow taxis charge more. But why? Do yellow taxis offer something special? Because when I took the yellow taxi, the asshole tried to drive without turning on the meter. So getting a more honest driver doesn't explain the higher fare.[/QUOTE]You have to report the driver FF.

The whole purpose of the yellow taxis was to raise the profile of the airport transport business and to prevent the scams including hijackings etc that were prevalent when the regular cabs were allowed to operate.

I use yellow cabs regularly in Manila and I have NEVER had any problem.
You should have a trip ticket handed to you by the despatcher when you leave the terminal, and it has the yellow cab registration number and a telephone number to call if you have any problem.

If you allowed your "asshole" to get away with it then he will do it again.

I know one of the owners of the yellow cab consortium, and he would dismiss immediately any driver who tried this on, as there are many guys who want to be yellow cab drivers.

Continued from AC tread.

I landed in cebu around 10 pm. Ms M was supposed to pick me up from the airport but with all the crap that went the day before I wasn't sure if she will turn up. As soon as I landed I switched my phone on to find a txt from her that she is there already with the description of her vehicle and rego number. I was happy it seems she is going to go through with it. Ms M is a nice 27-28 year old realtor that runs her own company employing 25 people according to her. She has won awards as top salesman for Ayala. Educated in Japan, she moves high end property mainly to foreigners and overseas Filipinos. She drove a brand new Hyndai Tucson and had more gold on her then I have seen on any non celeb Filipina. Previous cam interactions showing a luxury condo also indicated that she was telling me the truth. Anyway I walk out of the airport in Cebu her car is just park outside so I get in and yeah she is gorgeous. Dressed in a sexy business suite, nice face and tits to die for DCups would approve. We quickly greet and kiss and off we go to the Radison Blu. The ride is about 10-15 min, some small talk along the way and we are in front of the hotel. She leaves the car for the valley to take care of it as I walk to the reception desk to check in. Its funny because everyone seems to know her and greet her, from the valley to the receptionist and soon enough I get to meet the manager who hands me over vouchers for dinner in the restaurant as a gift. I didn't know what to think, at first to be honest I thought she must be some high class escort with more millage then a second hand car but in the elevator she explained that her company does presentations there and that she was there few hours ago she was doing some presentation to a bunch of Korean investors. We get to the hotel room and I quickly take a shower but she seems content to just watch tv. Now this is where I should have pushed my luck and go for it, this was the defining moment of the night I guess. When you are not sure if the girl will go through with the plan I guess get sure quickly and if no go get ride of her but I misread the situation completely. In turn we went for dinner to IT park, she mentioned couple of new discos there The Loft and something else. Can we get some info on those from the Cebu regulars or locals? She mentioned they only work Friday + weekend. Anyway dinner in a nice posh place, where once again everyone knew her, I get a bill that was ridiculously discounted for 2 * 3 course meals plus drinks I paid just under 500 peso. After that we went to some new disco M2 (not 100% thats the name of the place) or something like that near the port, on the other side of Radison Blu, less then 5 min driving. Once you park in the car park opposite you will see an open bar and then behind there is an indoor disco area with tables on the side. For a Wednesday night the place had maybe 150 people out of which 3:1 female to male ratio with less then a handful foreigners. I got few smiles and she noticed so she immediately pulled me at the back in the seats there. My leg was hurting so I didn't mind but another bad sign that I read well this time. From then on I tried, tried, and tired to licker her up as I had a feeling it will be one of those nights that ends in disappointment. 2 am we are back in my room. She takes shower first, locks the door, comes out dressed in a sexy nighty. I take a shower come out naked and get into bed. First it was the lights, then the tv, then lets not do this, then I haven't been with a man for years, then I don't know you that well, then I am not like this. Well fuck I am. I turn the lights on, I ask her does she remember what she promised and does she realise that my time is precious and I could have had another girl now? She is quite but nods, so I ask her to get dressed and go. She does, but I can tell she is looking at me sort of begging for forgiveness without saying it. I could care less, I fired up my laptop, and I was already cruising DIA as she came to kiss me goodnight. I pulled out and asked her to close the door on her way out. Few min latter I get a knock on the door, I open up its her asking if she could spend the night here anyway, I just slammed the door saying no. Well for the next few min I felt bad, she knew people in the hotel and to be kicked out at 3am it would had to be embarrassing for her but hey how else is she going to learn? I spend the night watching football and sending silly messages on DIA before going to sleep alone.

I woke up around 9ish and I couldn't be bothered with the breakfast. Ordered ice from the hotel for the leg and checked out DIA. Few replies from last night, one that looked promising and the girl was on line. I quickly moved in asking for her phone number and we were speaking few minutes latter. I invited her on a date in SM and she agreed for 11 am. She also asked me if she could bring her two 'sexy friends'. Now normally I don't mind a friend as I can get ride of the quickly if I don't like how things are progressing but I have never encountered anyone so far introducing her friends this way. She even gives me their DIA profiles so I look them up and yeah they seem ok. I agree wondering if this is going to be a big waste of time or did I just hit the jackpot. I start sending more msgs on DIA to girls that are on line and that I like so quickly I fish in another that after 2-3 replies leads to a phone conversation and a date for 5pm. I figure Mango square and bars tonight to end the night where I know its a sure thing.

I meet my DIA date with her 2 friends in tow (lets call them ms B (23yo) , C (28yo) and D (19yo) in front of the SM cinemas. Ms B the girl that I chatted to on DIA turned out to be a punduck (small body girl) that in seemed so much smaller then the photo and the few min webcab I did with her earlier. I love small bodied girls but I came to cebu for the big tits of Ms M. Its funny last trip she would have been perfect then it was the punduck look that I was seeking I guess I can say she was nice but not the flavour of the month. Ms C was the great average, nice girl, someone I would not barfine or talk to in a club but I would not hesitate to fuck if given the opportunity. Ms D the youngest of them all had what seemed like a decent C cup. She definitely had a killo or two more then the others but I would not call her fat or chubby even. Nice body and face, her photo on DIA does not do her justice. They wanted to eat and I was hungry too so went looking for a restaurant. They wanted KFC but the line was so big I couldn't be fucked waiting so we went to Shankies or something like that near by. Spaghetti, for Ms D that was seating next to me and was smiling the whole time, chicken for the other two and offcourse mango shakes for the lot. Small talk mostly with Ms C, they wanted to know how old I am, where do I stay, how long. The usual crap. Bill came to 1300 peso. I told them that my leg hurts and I can't walk too much so they offered to massage me, they wanted to see the hotel too since they have never been there. It was funny walking through SM, each taking a turn to hold my hand and kiss me. If anyone was following us well he would have wondered WTF. At each escalator I had anther babe next to me kissing me. Finally we work out the right exit and we quickly get into the hotel lobby, elevator, my room. Fashion TV on, music, girls, drinks from the mini bar, clothes start to come off I have 3 sets of hands touching me I feel like I am in heven. Ms B then says she has period so she is can't fuck, the other two lead me to the shower. I had everything locked up in the safe but I was still wondering at this stage if there is something more to it. No talk of money so far. In the shower they soap me up and give me a nice soak quick but nice. Then we are back on the bed and they proceed with the massage. 20 min go and they are talking tagalog, each one daring the other to have a go. It seems they are embarrassed to fuck in front of each other. Instead I get a hand job from the 3 of them taking turns on my dick and my balls with only Ms D giving me a blow job. Heaven quickly disappeared I guess. It was frustrating to say at the very least. Just when I thought I struck gold I struck out again. Another 20-30 min go and I finally cum in Ms D's mouth and they quickly start dressing up. I still can't figure what the hell happened or what was the point. I can say this was a unique experience that was weird on so many levels. I can't work out why ms C came in first place? Why ms B would not give e blow job and why neither Ms C or Ms D wanted to fuck. I guess I was done anyway it was approaching 3-3. 30 so I figure time for shopping before the other DIA appointment. I get dressed too, give Ms D 500 peso for her blow job and leave them in front of the taxi rack as I walk in SM mall. Ms C asked for taxi money I refused because she didn't do anything, I figure lunch was enough. I probably should have given her few hundred peso but I did ask her at one point to help ms D out and lick my balls which she didn't want to do. At the end of the day the got lunch and waisted my time I guess that's the bottom line.

After some shopping I went back to the hotel and texted Ms Z (22yr old, spinner with tits) my 5pm DIA. She confirmed our date for 5pm and we agreed to meet up at the cinemas again. She was on time which was great and we went to Bo's for coffee. Before even spending a peso on her she drops a bombshell, she has a period is it still ok, she just wanted to see me. Oh boy, to say that at this stage I am cursing in myself for coming to Cebu would be a gross understatement. All sorts of crap runs through my head, is it something wrong with me, is it just my luck, what are the chances of 2 birds with period in one day, am I going to even going to get laid in Cebu. I even thought about cutting the 'date' here and rushing to the airport for the 6. 30 Cebu flight to AC. The girl was nice though. She was not late and was honest upfront. Is she playing me? Who knows. I decided to stick around go through with the date, recoup my thoughts and it will be bars and Mango square tonight. We had coffee, she turned out quite nice lady, from Zambonga, the place where the most beautiful Filipinas are from, had done IT course of some kind but currently out of job. We talked a lot, she had a strong American accent that I guess she picked up from her former bf. Overall she was pleasant. We ended up watching a movie together. Lots of kissing and filling up during the show, she wasn't shy at all. With no one around us at one point she took of my dick from my pants and started stroking it. Few seconds latter she started kissing it but that was about it. I guess she didn't lie about the period if she was willing to do this in the cinema I can only imagine what she would do in the bedroom. Date was over around 8. 30. 9. I give her 300 peso for her time, she says thanks and off she goes. I got a whole bunch of texts from her saying she could visit me in Manila in few days and so on and so on.

In the cab to mango square I got a phone call from Ms J from AC. She is furious that I lied to her, I should have told her I am still in Philippines. What can I say she gave me a free pass on the condition I don't lie to her and I did. I could have continued with my Bangkok story and tell her I got roaming and all that but I already felt bad and with all the shit happening around me in Cebu to be honest I felt indifferent. I have a whole bunch of girls in Manila that I could call on and I was looking forward to seeing so at the moment I didn't care. Then the txt followed. All sort of drama and then I thought about it. She was the reason for the trip, she was by far the best lay so far, and far better then what I have in Manila. The endless pursuit for better has brought me fuck all in the last 24 hours and I am now in a bar where I can't find anything worth talking to let alone taking out. Cebu is a funny place. It has nice girls but their pay 4 play bar scene is pathetic. Few bars latter I end up in Pussycats (I think thats the name) where few months ago there was a girl that I really really liked. At first I get this ugly bird seating next to me trying to talk to me but I ignore her. She is persistant trying to get a drink. I still ignore her although I started answering her set of usual questions. I finally call the one I like and start talking to her ignoring the other and she finally gets the message and goes. The one I liked remembers be from few months ago when I was there with my manila cutie. We couldn't talk her into a 3some but I told her I will be back for her. She remembered me even remembered what I drank, where we seat, remembered playing pool with us. LOL I guess I must have left a good impression. In haven again. At least for few seconds. She then tells me she is reserved and can be with me tomorrow. I asked for the bill. Payed and moved to Juliana's. I had enough. Cebu was turning out in a disaster. I don't know if its just me but for some reason I am preaty sure I saw few ladyboys in Julianas. I haven't noticed them in the past is this a new trend? I didn't find anything and moved to the other club right next to Julianas. Much nicer place, bit more expensive but at least no ladyboys in sight. I looked around for maybe an hour or so, drinking by the bar when I finally found a nice spinner that was talking to few of her frinds. I invited her over we chatted for a while, I bought her a drink and invited her to my place. She accepted and we went outside for a drink and something to eat. I wasn't going to have my night fucked up again so I was going to ask fucking everything this time. I just didn't care, if she doesn't like it she can go back to the club. I asked and asked and I got the right answers, she laughed a lot but I told her my story in cebu so far so she understood. After eating she just said lets go I will fuck your brains out now so you don't think bad of cebu. Well what can I say. In the taxi she was all over me. In the room we couldn't even get to the shower. I think we fucked twice before going to shower and then continued fucking again and again making use of all the furniture in the room. She stayed until 10am and when I asked what she wants she just said 1500 is enough. I gave her 2000 and off she went.

i had breakfast at the hotel and then had a then some business related meeting until around 2pm. i had earlier scheduled a meeting with another dia cutie, ms k that i have been in touch for some time for 3pm. for 7 pm i had another long term chat mate ms s planned that recently just got married and was in final stages of getting her visa before she moves to europe. now after ms m, ms s was my main goal so i left her for the grand finale. she has been texting me for the past few days all the things she would do to me so i was sure i had a winner there. only problem was how long she could stay considering her circumstances.

around 2. 30 i txtedms k to see if she is on her way. she was and we agreed to meet at the joliebee in sm. to cut the long story short, her battery died, and we could not find each other at the joliebee. i know it sounds crazy but thats what happened. last call i made i could hear she was there but phone conversation cut off a second latter and that was it. you would think she would try to recharge her phone in mc donalds or somewhere but hey that requires a brain. i hang around joliebee for few minutes and then left for the hotel. i got few txts from her in the next few days but i didn't even bother replaying. on her dia i left a 'nice' message and that was it. i watched football until around 6. 30 when i got a txt from ms s that she is on her way. few minutes latter i got another txt from her that she is front of the hotel can i pick her up. i went down and wow. she is far more beautiful then her photos and on cam. she is about 1. 70m tall, great boobs and perfect legs. wearing a a black cocktail dress she puts the hostess in radison blu to shame. i am speechless. i quickly usher her to the elevator as few filipinos are ogling her (there was a weading or some sort of party happening in the hotel). in the room we talk for few minutes before we move on to the bed and at first i get the usual i am married now, lets talk but once my hands touch her pussy she opens up like a flower. she is wet and it takes only few strokes for to take of her panties and for me to bury my face into her. few minutes latter condom comes on she is riding me like she has never seen a dick before. well its been over 6 months for her and i can see she is enjoying it. i flip her over and do her doggy for a while as she strougles to take off all her clothes. then we move on to the chair and she is rocking for a second i think of my leg and what if the chair collapses so i put her on the desk and finish her there. we both cum at the same time smiling. we get back to bed talk more before another round. this time while she is riding me i start playing with her ass and then a bury my finger inside. she is hurting but she has done anal before so she doesn't resist. she rides me for a while with first my index finger in her ass then my thumb. i do her doggy and again with lots of spit i start inserting one then two fingers in her ass getting her moist and ready. i make her play with her pussy while i insert my dick in her ass and she yells a bit but she is not refusing. slowly centimetre by centimetre i am deeper and deeper inside her. she rocks her body on to me for the last few centimetres i guess wanting to get it quicker. well i was in haven. this time for real. i fucked her for a while cuming all over her back on the end. she looks at the time and she needs to go soon so we go to the shower. she washes me and then outside she gives me a nice blow job before i decide to go for one last ride. about 30 min latter i explode inside her mouth she insisted she wanted a piece of me. she swallowed it all smilled and got dressed. i gave her 3000 she refused saying its way too much and that she doesn't want money, can she have some chocolates instead. i talked her into taking the money after all this one i intend to keep in my stable. she is moving in january to europe, in a city which i spend a week or so every year so i figure this one is worth keeping. i have recived plenty of txts from her thanking me, it turns out that she ended up needing the money after all cristmas is on the corner and her husband send less then what he normally does as he is coming over before new year. turned out perfect i guess.

anyway back to story. she lives around 10. 15 pm i take another shower and decide to go to the discos in it park that ms m told me about. i get dressed and walk downstares i get give number 14 in taxi que in the hotel so i walk to sm hoping to catch a cab there. no luck there either so i walk onto the street. i start walking towards mango square hoping to catch a taxi on the way. we often criticize manila cabs but fuck me cebu are just as bad. infect i would say worse. few cabbies stopped and once i told them where i am heading they just drove off. not even malate style negotiation start with the fucking ridiculous and get 100 peso over the fare. nothing, just a blank face and foot on the gas. i was once again cursing thinking number 14 was not so bad lol. then a cab stopped and asked me where i am going. he then pointed to a passanger at the back and said, sure i will take you there once i drop of ms v at mango square. i set at the front, meter was showing 194 peso but it was already too late. to be honest i could not care about the money but i thought this may turn ugly or another bangkok style taxi highjek. the driver was cool though. he intrdoced me to ms v and asked me if i am after a girl. i told him i want to check out it park but yeah thats what i am after. he smiled and said maybe i should turn back to your hotel with his head pointing at ms v. i turned around and she was nice. slim, nice face wearing a skinny black t shirt that revealed a nice set of boobs. well i changed my mind and told the driver i am going to mango too. he smiled and just said maybe you want to seat at the back. i smiled, he pulled over. i transferred at the back and the 3 of us were now laughing. ms v kept saying oh my god i have never done this before, the cab driver was fixing up his mirror knowing that a show is about to start. i could not care less so i started touching and whispering to ms v, the usual crap, how old is she and so on. i was really ripping into her when we arrived. meter was around 240 or so, i gave the cab driver 300 and walked out. i was planning on few quick drinks with ms v and a meal, i wanted some time to recover from ms s but then i saw the cabby handing ms v 100 peso. they rigged the meter how fucking typical, i knew i was being conned but hey 10 mines of top entertainment plus a ride hm, who gives a fuck. we line up for julianas her expecting me to pay but i just whispered use the money the cab driver gave you, and paid for myself only. inside she hung around me for few minutes lol, but once she saw me talking to other girls she went to her friends and that was the end of ms v. like the night before julianas didn't do it for me so i moved on to the club beside. i stayed there for couple of hours enjoying the music and slowly getting drunk exchanging txts with ms j from ac. she was suppose to meet me in manila tomorrow but because i lied to her she wouldn't. my mind was made up that i want to spend the last 2 days with her, i figured at abc they will look after me my leg is still not recovered, manila would be far more walking so i finally talked her into giving me another chance. the deal was i had to make my way to ac. with that finally done, it took like 100 txts typical filipino drama i guess but she was worth it, i moved on to a honey with what seemed like enormous jugs for her body frame. a drink latter, we were out of the club together. across the road for some chinese and then the cab back to the hotel. we fucked couple of times, she received few txts and at around 4 she wanted to leave and asked for 2000, i told her this is really short time and all i will give her is 1000 or she can stay another 2 hours with me if she wants the 2k. she accepted 1000 gave me her phone number and left. at that point i realised that in few hours i got a plane to catch so i rang reception to organise a wake up call for 6. 30am. i set my cell phone alarm clocks and go to sleep.

no prices for guessing what happens next. i wake up at 9am an hour before my flight lives. i pack, i check out, i get 30 min before the flight to the airport but check in closes 45 min before the flight so i missed it. i go to the ticket counter and the choice is cebu pacific 12 noon or zest in 10. 30. i gamble on zest air, notorious for being late or cancelled but at $42 i figure i due some luck on this trip. zest air leaves 11. 45 of to ac via manila we go.

to be continued on ac board.

huh. few notes from this trip. cebu has never been a good hunting spot for me. i realise i haven't given this city the respect and time it deserves but this is largely due to my circumstances. i have it good in manila and ac so cebu for me turns into a 3-4 day side trip that is nowhere near enough to get the best out of the city. its also hard to follow up on ac when it comes to p4p or manila when it comes to nightlife p4p or anything really. one is a city of 20 mil another of 700k. i know many regulars would probably disagree with what i write here but i think cebu is a city of average. average nightlife, average beaches, average food, average accommodation. its cheaper then manila so thats another attraction. i still think the best looking cebuanas in the p4p scene are in manila or ac. burgos has far more beautiful cebuanas then any of the bars in cebu and if you really want to find a top notch cebuana just go to angel witch in ac. i went to most bars on my second night and i found 1 that i would barfine. thats it folks only one. in sm mall i saw few nice girls but nothing special. i got few smiles but not even close to the action you have in malate. julianas has gone down in quality and so have the other discos around mango square. if i have to rate them i would put them on part with mbc with far far far less stock even quality for a friday night. again price is cheaper, girls drinks, entry fees (compared to manila discos) and so on. overall i say give it a shot before you go to manila or ac, stay at last 10 days to make it work and perhaps not a bad place to retire. for less time then that go elsewehere.

Just left a couple days ago. Good trip overall. Spent 3 days in Cebu. Been there many times but this is my first post.

Arrived with a friend from Mindanao who had been in Manila with me for 2 days. Was a second meet with her. She said only second guy she's been with. Who knows. I don't want to be the first. But ooh was she tight. Could barely put a finger in at first. Got it nice and wet with the tongue for awhile which she seemed to enjoy. Then I really lubed her up and played. By the time she was comfortable with two fingers switched to sex. Nothing like a nice tight clean philipina. 18 yo, tight body, sweet but sexy face. I'm going and enjoying myself. She hurting but I think lubed up enough that it's not killin her. Anyways, I get to the top and I'm really feelin it and I exclaim oh shit in ecstasy as I cum. This sweet young thing stops and she looks at me and says "what" like she's hurt me or something. I just bust up laughin! Cute and innocent.

Spend a few days in Manila but I've got some other friends I want to meet in Cebu but I'm not done with this girl so I bring her to Cebu with me. We get there and I've only got 3 days in Cebu and I'm trying to decide how much of it to spend with ms Mindanao. So we go to Juliana first night and she gets really drunk. Been pretty shy up to his point. I'm seeing some other lookers and making some good eye contact so I ask her to go back to the hotel and meet me there. I say I have some friends to say Hi to. She protests and is really disappointed but goes. I play for a few hours and I'm trying to figure out what to do. But she's in my hotel room do options limited.

I go back to the hotel. She asleep on the couch. I wake her up and apologize and ms shy girl turns porn star on me. Oh shit is right this time. She jumps me and is riding me like a cowgirl and in control of the action. No innocent "what" this time.

Don't really understand the transformation. The alcohol, me dissin her, what. But worked out good for me whatever it was. One of the best sessions ever.

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1229173]Huh. Few notes from this trip. Cebu has never been a good hunting spot for me. I realise I haven't given this city the respect and time it deserves but this is largely due to my circumstances. I have it good in Manila and AC so Cebu for me turns into a 3-4 day side trip that is nowhere near enough to get the best out of the city. Its also hard to follow up on AC when it comes to P4P or Manila when it comes to nightlife P4P or anything really. One is a city of 20 mil another of 700K. I know many regulars would probably disagree with what I write here but I think Cebu is a city of average. Average nightlife, average beaches, average food, average accommodation. Its cheaper then manila so thats another attraction.[/QUOTE]Great set of reports.

Here is the problem that I discovered on a recent trip. Most of us use either P4P, or dating site contacts. Prior to that trip, I was batting 99% with dating site contacts. Like McDon, I was chatting up ladies on cam who agreed to the meet-and-bang. My dating site profile is like RK's, very specific looking for nawty only. Talking about it in advance always worked before. But on that trip, bouncing around filipines (both Cebu and provinces) , I was getting rejected at the meeting point (often Bo's or Starbucks or such). In CDO over the course of several days, I batted zero, striking out with more online girls than I could shake a stick at. I'm not used to that kind of thing, sitting at Starbucks Lemkatki, having a girl who previously said YES to every nawty thing say NO she can't come to my hotel. Send her on her way, txt another girl who shows up 45 minutes later, only to hear the same thing. Makes you want to get more intimate with the local P4P scene again (its a crappy scene in CDO).

On the other hand, as you can see from the many pics, I've done well in Cebu. Where else are girls (pros or dating site contacts) fine with 500 or 700? Where else, after banging them, do they offer to bring friends, cousins, sisters?

Also McDon, you mentioned in one of your reports you visited the Mango gogo bars. Was that the Vikings group? You said you didn't see anything that lit you up. I think if you sit in Vikings or Sisters and don't see quite a number of cuties who make the flag stand up, too picky? We often see on the reports the gent says he was looking for this-type of girl, or he only likes that-type of girl. How many times have we seen reports saying: "Made the loop through MBC, didn't see anything that floated my boat." Do we set ourselves up for failure when we do that?

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1229231]Great set of reports.

On the other hand, as you can see from the many pics, I've done well in Cebu. Where else are girls (pros or dating site contacts) fine with 500 or 700? Where else, after banging them, do they offer to bring friends, cousins, sisters?

Also McDon, you mentioned in one of your reports you visited the Mango gogo bars. Was that the Vikings group? You said you didn't see anything that lit you up. I think if you sit in Vikings or Sisters and don't see quite a number of cuties who make the flag stand up, too picky? We often see on the reports the gent says he was looking for this-type of girl, or he only likes that-type of girl. How many times have we seen reports saying: "Made the loop through MBC, didn't see anything that floated my boat." Do we set ourselves up for failure when we do that?[/QUOTE]I don't do as well in cebu anymore either. It was great for me six years ago when I first came here.

Met tons of girls and also p4p was very good.

My attitude has changed and I am too picky now but I have the same problems with the dating site as McDon.

I have been living in angeles. I have more fun because more friends more girls and more time.

So many factors of why cebu has gone downhill for me. I am attracted to the nicer girls but they arent naughty enough and want more commitment.

Burned out a bit on the bar girls.

Have been to the vikings club and had really good expierences 4 5 and 6 years ago.

Now is not as good for me?

Still a lot of it is me. I don't want to invest the time or the money to make it work out.

So yes I like it as a short side trip not bad but not my favorite anymore.

Still looking for that young, skinny nice and naughty girl that just really gets me turned on.

Maybe in my dreams?

McDon,

Thank you for your reports. Fun to read. Bummer about Cebu but IMHO you could maybe have fucked that business woman. Pinays are trained to say things and answer in a specific way, so best is to not talk to much and just help them decide in a more direct manner. If she was in your room like that, she was perhaps just playing hard to get to ensure her future market value in your eyes. I think she wanted the hammer, and with some hands on love and affection you would have had her pussy juiced up, her lips around your hammer and her sticky panties over your face. Do feel free to share her contacts details if you think she is up for more adventures.

Merry Christmas, mongers!

B.

Cebu is a great destination for normal, dating site girls. Ofcourse if on meeting they might not be interested in you irrespective of what they promised in chat. It is not cebu proper but you can get girls surrounding provinces including whole leyte area girls to come to cebu. If they come to cebu things are sort of guaranteed. Local cebu girls will leave if they do not like you.

I have not taken any P4P girls in Cebu or frequented bars except for a couple of drinks. Mainly because my normal girls have kept me happy and good companionship.

In Manila the girls icluding normal girls seem to have more choices and are jaded by big city life, not naive like province girls. Because Manila is expensive city to live in they expect and want more support and expensive gifts.

Ofcourse they know about all the latest gadgets.

Going to smaller province towns is not a good idea. Even the girls want to protect their reputation even if they live far away. Seen with a older foreign man is still taboo for a young girl.

So the best way is to fly her to cebu. If it works it will be great. Ofcourse there will be some dissappointments but overall you have not spent much on air-ticket or remuneration.

[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1229171]Continued from AC tread.

I landed in cebu around 10 pm. Ms M was supposed to pick me up from the airport but with all the crap that went the day before I wasn't sure if she will turn up. As soon as I landed I switched my phone on to find a txt from her that she is there already with the description of her vehicle and rego number. I was happy it seems she is going to go through with it. Ms M is a nice 27-28 year old realtor that runs her own company employing 25 people according to her. She has won awards as top salesman for Ayala. Educated in Japan, she moves high end property mainly to foreigners and overseas Filipinos. She drove a brand new Hyndai Tucson and had more gold on her then I have seen on any non celeb Filipina. Previous cam interactions showing a luxury condo also indicated that she was telling me the truth. Anyway I walk out of the airport in Cebu her car is just park outside so I get in and yeah she is gorgeous. Dressed in a sexy business suite, nice face and tits to die for DCups would approve. We quickly greet and kiss and off we go to the Radison Blu.

I got few smiles and she noticed so she immediately pulled me at the back in the seats there. My leg was hurting so I didn't mind but another bad sign that I read well this time. From then on I tried, tried, and tired to licker her up as I had a feeling it will be one of those nights that ends in disappointment. 2 am we are back in my room. She takes shower first, locks the door, comes out dressed in a sexy nighty. I take a shower come out naked and get into bed. First it was the lights, then the tv, then lets not do this, then I haven't been with a man for years, then I don't know you that well, then I am not like this. Well fuck I am. I turn the lights on, I ask her does she remember what she promised and does she realise that my time is precious and I could have had another girl now? She is quite but nods, so I ask her to get dressed and go. She does, but I can tell she is looking at me sort of begging for forgiveness without saying it. .[/QUOTE]McDon:

Good report.

But I think the business lady liked you and wanted you all to herself. She wanted more than you would probably ever give her. In the end you probably saved yourself some "commitment dramas" later-when she would try other methods of attaching a leash of some sort to keep you all to herself.

Who knows how many "good" guys she has struck out on so far in her life so; hence, her playing hard to get. But, you could've hit that P*ssy real hard with a bit of patience explaination that: (1) you don't enjoy hard to get games, (2) you were feeling sexually frustrated and needed release (is her mouth working?) and (3) there was no point sleeping together if no sexual release, openess and bodily exploration was in the offering. Nothing personal, honesty is the best policy.

I'd bet a dollar that she could've probably blown your mind with the sex-which is what I think she came back knocking on the door for. I feel sorry for the lad that will end up marrying and taking her to his home country. I'd bet she'd use sex as negotiating tool and a weapon and would leave his ass the moment she got what she wants. I've seen this script one too many times.

I do understand your frustration with her though. Your description of her responses to you in bed read like what my ex-wife used that used sex as a negotiating tool did during our marriage. In the end I got fed up and left her ass; life is too short to spend frustrated in bed. These days, I let the women know up front that their hard to get games are not cool with me. Nothing personal; just not cool. Calling their BS usually get them to lossen up more often than not with me now.

Next time, call it and hit it.

BL2K

The main area I visited was Mango Avenue. About 500 meters away from Mango Square there are around 12 bars.

Drinks are not expensive. 50 pesos average.

Lady drink about 120 pesos.

If you to take a lady out it costs 1. 800 – 2. 000 pesos.

Not high quality but you can find some of them very beautiful.

Hotels are cheaper than Angeles City and Manila.

I recommend you to look for accommodation around Mango Square, Ramos Street.

I stayed in Diplomat Hotel, room cost 1. 400 pesos without breakfast.

A little nearer to the area it is Holiday Inn Plaza hotel, room cost 1. 800 pesos with a very nice breakfast (for one person, breakfast for two people it costs 2. 000 pesos)

No problem to get the lady inside in any of them.

I remember in the area the Vikingo Bar and another beside. The place worth a visit, and if you look for well you can find a beautiful one.

No problem with any of the ones I took.

Another tip; do not forget to attend a cockfighting, quite interesting.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1229239]Cebu is a great destination for normal, dating site girls. Ofcourse if on meeting they might not be interested in you irrespective of what they promised in chat. It is not cebu proper but you can get girls surrounding provinces including whole leyte area girls to come to cebu. If they come to cebu things are sort of guaranteed. Local cebu girls will leave if they do not like you.

I have not taken any P4P girls in Cebu or frequented bars except for a couple of drinks. Mainly because my normal girls have kept me happy and good companionship.

In Manila the girls icluding normal girls seem to have more choices and are jaded by big city life, not naive like province girls. Because Manila is expensive city to live in they expect and want more support and expensive gifts.

Ofcourse they know about all the latest gadgets.

Going to smaller province towns is not a good idea. Even the girls want to protect their reputation even if they live far away. Seen with a older foreign man is still taboo for a young girl.

So the best way is to fly her to cebu. If it works it will be great. Ofcourse there will be some dissappointments but overall you have not spent much on air-ticket or remuneration.[/QUOTE]Sammon I agree with your report except for one thing. Yes the province is very different but it's not taboo for a young girl to be with an older man. As long as its a serious relationship. Girls just don't want to bring someone there that is going to be gone in a couple months or going to hit on her friends. Foreigners are very welcome in the provinces and I'm talking in the deep province where quite a few people haven't had interaction with a foreigner. But of course you have to watch yourself anywhere you go, like in my case, their are some serious admirers of my girl and I can tell 2 or 3 don't like me. But the rest love me so no worries!

On Friday fire destroyed the Gaisano Capital building located in Colon. When fire crews first arrived at the building they were refused entry by "some unidentified men" as thick black smoke poured from the main floor and receiving area.

The fire raged for more than 18hrs with fire crews unable to gain access to the upper floors of the 7 story structure due to heat and thick smoke. The breakdown of all three aerial ladder trucks available within the general Cebu City area made the fire more difficult to control.

No one was injured but an estimated 1000 employees are now without a job so if anyone has a honey or chatmate working there expect a message asking you to play santa.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1229818]On Friday fire destroyed the Gaisano Capital building located in Colon. When fire crews first arrived at the building they were refused entry by "some unidentified men" as thick black smoke poured from the main floor and receiving area.

The fire raged for more than 18hrs with fire crews unable to gain access to the upper floors of the 7 story structure due to heat and thick smoke. The breakdown of all three aerial ladder trucks available within the general Cebu City area made the fire more difficult to control.

No one was injured but an estimated 1000 employees are now without a job so if anyone has a honey or chatmate working there expect a message asking you to play santa.[/QUOTE]Is that the Gaisano Metro mall downtown?

It was Gaisano South across from McDo not Gaisano Metro. See details.

At sunstar cebu online.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1229852]Is that the Gaisano Metro mall downtown?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1229818]The breakdown of all three aerial ladder trucks available within the general Cebu City area made the fire more difficult to control.[/QUOTE]I have worked for the UN and they have a safety manual for travellers in SE Asia.

One piece of advice is to always stay in rooms on 6th floor or lower because fire brigades in SE Asian cities rarely have ladders that will extend beyond the 4th to 6th floore.

In this case it seems even that wouldn't have been safe if the fire had been in a residential building because the ladders were all broken.

I arrived back in Cebu Christmas Eve on the Cathay flight from HK. Arrivals was very smooth and quick for a change and apart from waiting 40 minutes for my luggage no other hassles. Daisy and the kids were waiting to meet me and before long we were in a taxi heading to the Waterfront in Lahug. Hotel is still busy over Christmas though there are not many Westerners here at the moment, it is mainly Koreans. Breakfast was entertaining this morning, I was having breakfast with Daisy's kids watching some obese Korean kid about 11 years old throwing a tantrum.

I left Daisy and the kids with money to buy dinner last night and I headed off to do some exploring alone. I met a couple of DIA dates, one at the Metro Colon Street and the other at the Metro in Mandaue. Got myself a bit confused as both appointments were within the space of one hour and as they were both at different places called Metro, at one point I forgot who was who.

Met both girls and the usual entourage that accompanied them and although cute I was only interested in them if they were going to open up their legs that night. Both girls were not typical DIA contacts, they were more interested in dating than fucking and will require a little more work than I was prepared to invest at the moment.

I went for a walkabout in Colon Street and surrounding area last night at around 11. Most shops were shut but Colon Street had been closed to traffic and there was a massive thriving street market. Lots of people around and quite a few young hookers who approached me but they were typical street girls and not really to my taste.

I went to Jonquera at about midnight and was hounded by 3 street pimps who would not leave me alone. In the end I settled outside one of the shacks with a female pimp and shared a beer with her. I was introduced to about 10 young girls all questioningly hovering around the 18 mark but again nothing took my fancy. I spent about 45 minutes watching the world go by and then took a stroll into the heart of Jonquera. There was an impromtu disco going full blast with lots of people about all having a good time. Absolutely no problems even though I was alone I felt safe but I was sober and as always fully alert.

I then took a cab to Mango Square, it seemed business as usual and I took a stroll into Juliannas or whatever it is now called. Quite busy inside, an SM light cost 60 pesos and with a 100 peso cover charge it was not too bad. Mainly Korean girls inside and not many pros or semi pros that I could see.

There were some old faces outside, regular girls I seem to see everytime I am in town. The cafe opposite was very busy, with lots of older Western guys sipping coffees and beers alone and looking quite miserable. All the bars up the road were closed, Vikings, Hot Lips etc.

I have quite a few DIA appointments lined up for today (Christmas Day). I thought it might be difficult to meet girls over the holiday period but so far it does not seem to have had any adverse effect. I think Ayalla Mall is still open today, I hope so as I have a few dates lined up!

Merry Christmas to all my fellow Mongers

Hey Mortman,

I am in Cebu from Christmas day for 3 days. Do you know if the Mango St bars are open Christmas night (25th) or if not, when they will be open again?

Snow.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1229932]I arrived back in Cebu Christmas Eve on the Cathay flight from HK. Arrivals was very smooth and quick for a change and apart from waiting 40 minutes for my luggage no other hassles. Daisy and the kids were waiting to meet me and before long we were in a taxi heading to the Waterfront in Lahug. Hotel is still busy over Christmas though there are not many Westerners here at the moment, it is mainly Koreans. Breakfast was entertaining this morning, I was having breakfast with Daisy's kids watching some obese Korean kid about 11 years old throwing a tantrum.

I left Daisy and the kids with money to buy dinner last night and I headed off to do some exploring alone. I met a couple of DIA dates, one at the Metro Colon Street and the other at the Metro in Mandaue. Got myself a bit confused as both appointments were within the space of one hour and as they were both at different places called Metro, at one point I forgot who was who.

Met both girls and the usual entourage that accompanied them and although cute I was only interested in them if they were going to open up their legs that night. Both girls were not typical DIA contacts, they were more interested in dating than fucking and will require a little more work than I was prepared to invest at the moment.

I went for a walkabout in Colon Street and surrounding area last night at around 11. Most shops were shut but Colon Street had been closed to traffic and there was a massive thriving street market. Lots of people around and quite a few young hookers who approached me but they were typical street girls and not really to my taste.

I went to Jonquera at about midnight and was hounded by 3 street pimps who would not leave me alone. In the end I settled outside one of the shacks with a female pimp and shared a beer with her. I was introduced to about 10 young girls all questioningly hovering around the 18 mark but again nothing took my fancy. I spent about 45 minutes watching the world go by and then took a stroll into the heart of Jonquera. There was an impromtu disco going full blast with lots of people about all having a good time. Absolutely no problems even though I was alone I felt safe but I was sober and as always fully alert.

I then took a cab to Mango Square, it seemed business as usual and I took a stroll into Juliannas or whatever it is now called. Quite busy inside, an SM light cost 60 pesos and with a 100 peso cover charge it was not too bad. Mainly Korean girls inside and not many pros or semi pros that I could see.

There were some old faces outside, regular girls I seem to see everytime I am in town. The cafe opposite was very busy, with lots of older Western guys sipping coffees and beers alone and looking quite miserable. All the bars up the road were closed, Vikings, Hot Lips etc.

I have quite a few DIA appointments lined up for today (Christmas Day). I thought it might be difficult to meet girls over the holiday period but so far it does not seem to have had any adverse effect. I think Ayalla Mall is still open today, I hope so as I have a few dates lined up!

Merry Christmas to all my fellow Mongers[/QUOTE]

SK.

I have no idea but if I was a betting man I would wager a very large amount of money on the bars being shut again tonight. I will probably head back there tonight anyway at least Mango Square seems to be business as usual. Both SM and Ayalla malls were absolutely brimming with people today, it all seems so strange when compared to the UK where everything literally shuts down on Christmas day.

Ended up with an 18 year old girl I met last night outside Robinsons in the early hours. Very very shy, I thought she was a street hooker at first but that was not possible given her acute shyness. She was with her sister and friend and I arranged to meet them again outside Robinsons this afternoon. After some negotiation with her sister I arranged for her to come to my hotel for 1000 pesos.

Well when I say my hotel I was referring to the Queensland! Paid my 350 for the room which by the way had completely been refurbished to a high standard. The towels were freshly laundered and sealed in polythene, but they still looked like rags I would wash my car with back home. Can't see the point of refurbishing a room to such a high standard and then providing towels that look like they belong in some back street 200 peso slum *****house.

Erica was tiny with a very very tight pussy that took some playing with to get her ready, but she was more than eager and willing once I started to penetrate her. I was not in the mood for a long passionate sex session nor was I interested in giving pleasure and climbed aboard missionary style for what may have lasted a few minutes at most. This was sex at its most basic and primitive form with me climaxing very quickly.....well it has been a few days!

Taxi back to Robinsons where I dropped off Erica where her friends were waiting eagerly for her to buy dinner with her new found wealth of 1000 pesos. I just felt relieved and contented and headed back to see Daisy and the kids at the Waterfront!

[QUOTE=Cheapy; 1229891]It was Gaisano South across from McDo not Gaisano Metro. See details.

At sunstar cebu online.[/QUOTE]Yes that's correct and at the same time the fire was burning inside Gaisano, fire also broke out inside the McDo! The restaurant was full of people and it appears a generator overheated. LOL, fortunately there were alot of firemen around to put the fire out quickly in McDo.

Many are speculating that the Gaisano fire is suspicious because of the timing. The main office is located on the upper floors and all the tax records for 2011 went up in smoke. Now they can rebuild new for next to nothing and only remit a low-ball tax estimation. The same owner is involved with white gold club located on lower Mango. That building went up in flames long ago and was never rebuilt and now stands as a empty shell awaiting a condo developer to come knocking on the door.

Fire is a daily event in the Philippines and it touches many lives. The electrical standards are non-existant and everything is just good enough to work so no one questions or looks into the future to what can happen.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1230010]Well when I say my hotel I was referring to the Queensland! Paid my 350 for the room which by the way had completely been refurbished to a high standard. The towels were freshly laundered and sealed in polythene, but they still looked like rags I would wash my car with back home. Can't see the point of refurbishing a room to such a high standard and then providing towels that look like they belong in some back street 200 peso slum *****house.[/QUOTE]Mortman.

Welcome back to Cebu.

What Queensland did you go to? V. Rama or one of the two locations on lower Mango between CC City Health and the white gold corner? I heard Queensland is now asking for the 3hr room fee up front. Can you confirm?

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1230149]Mortman.

Welcome back to Cebu.

What Queensland did you go to? V. Rama or one of the two locations on lower Mango between CC City Health and the white gold corner? I heard Queensland is now asking for the 3hr room fee up front. Can you confirm?[/QUOTE]It was the one nearest SM Mall, price was 350 short time and I paid on checking out.

For the record, all the bars were open last night except for Loan Star Saloon which is closed 23, 24 and 25 which means it is open tonight.

The bars and clubs around Mango Sq all seem to be open as well.

There is a big club at the back called "J Ave". Is this Julianas?

Snow.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1230010]SK.

I have no idea but if I was a betting man I would wager a very large amount of money on the bars being shut again tonight. I will probably head back there tonight anyway at least Mango Square seems to be business as usual. Both SM and Ayalla malls were absolutely brimming with people today, it all seems so strange when compared to the UK where everything literally shuts down on Christmas day.

[QUOTE=Snow Koala; 1230362]There is a big club at the back called "J Ave". Is this Julianas?

Snow.[/QUOTE]YES, thats julianas.

Met up with WR another well known ISG member for drinks at Bo's on the terrace of Ayalla today. I also had arranged to meet a DIA date at the same place, someone I had never met on cam and someone I had only exchanged mail with a couple of times. Half way through our drinks, 18 year old Cherry arrived. She was very slim and very cute, not in a beautiful way but in a fresh innocent looking sort of way if that makes sense. She seemed very shy but soon got chatting and it turns out she has been having sex since the age of 13. Her first foreigner was a Korean at the age of 15 and she has not looked back since. It is amazing how some of these girls can appear quite innocent until you get chatting to them, however the giveaway with this girl was a large but tasteful tatoo above her right breast and clearly visible through the skimpy top she was wearing. A tatoo on a girl is often a good indication that she has been round the block more than a few times!
I normally run a mile when I see a a tatoo it has always been the one thing that turns me off women. However Cherry was an endearing girl and I took a shine to her immediately, as did WR. She would not win any beauty contests but she was still a lovely cute girl.
Anyway I cut short my meeting with WR and headed back to the hotel with my new found friend. I had to temporarily evict Daisy and the kids from the room so I had the place to myself and then we got down to business. Both of us showered and within minutes we were on the bed in a naked embrace, towels left in a wet pile by the edge of the bed.
Cherry wasted no time at all and started sucking my nipples, before gradually moving down to suck my now hard and throbbing cock. She interspersed the sucking to come up briefly and French kiss me in the mouth. I then pushed her onto the bed on her back and began kissing her body all over and then sucking her nipples and she was getting visibly excited, breathing more heavily as I moved to her small tits and nipples. I began sucking them delicately at first before sucking more strongly. Cherry had a beatiful body, perfectly toned with not one ounce of fat anywhere. Enough was enough and after about 15 minutes of this I was in no mood to wait any further, I pushed her on her back and mounted her wet pussy, sliding in slowly and building up a steady and slow rythym. I lasted about 7-8 minutes before exploding (yes I would not win any sexual marathons) and my excuse is that I did not want Daisy and the kids to be kept waiting for the room. I settled back to relax and chat for a few minutes. A very quick joint shower followed, we got dressed and took a taxi back to Ayalla. I gave her 1000 and took her for a pizza before sending her on her way. She is coming back tomorrow with a student friend of hers so I hope to have more fun tomorrow. Have given WR the number of Cherry I hope he has as much fun as I did during our brief encounter.
Met back up with WR at his hotel for a drink where he introduced me to one of his (many) female friends. Probably one of the best looking girls I have ever seen...,period! I am not exagerrating when I say that this girl could easily work at the best up market Korean clubs in town and still outshine many of the girls there. WR you are one lucky SOB

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1230162]Don you have me so excited about my virgin trip to Cebu. You talk like it is a holy grail or something. Then to read that you were disappointed and thought you wasted your time with those chicks? There are guys who spend much more for a back crack and jack. Is there something I am missing here? To me it reads like it was time and money well spent. I especially like how you did not give Ms C any taxi money because she didn't do anything. This shows you are not a cream puff guy.[/QUOTE]What can I say, VALUE FOR MONEY absolutely. The thing is I was looking for sex, for the first time ever in phils I spent a night alone and to say that I was frustrated its just an understatement. Few guys here picked it up I think I went to cebu with the wrong attitude. I treated Ms M like a common AC bar girl and she wasn't. It was a major fuck up the night before and when I set up the meeting with Ms B after few messages on DIA and a phone conversation I though I did well. When I saw the 3 I though I did really well. I was up only to be let down during lunch, poor conversation that kind of led me to believe I am not going to get anywhere. Then up again walking down the mall each one taking turns to kiss and hold me, up again in the room when they started striping without even been asked to do so then down when they didn't want to fuck or even suck (with the exception of Ms D. Like the entire trip it was a constant battle of ups and downs. I didn't get what I wanted but yeah I agree with you anywhere else in the world any other time even in phils this would have been one great experience. Even now when I think about it, it was enjoyable. I guess it wasn't what I was looking for at the time.

Good luck in Cebu. Its very different to Manila or AC, never the less its still fun.

[QUOTE=Barba; 1229236]McDon,

Thank you for your reports. Fun to read. Bummer about Cebu but IMHO you could maybe have fucked that business woman. Pinays are trained to say things and answer in a specific way, so best is to not talk to much and just help them decide in a more direct manner. If she was in your room like that, she was perhaps just playing hard to get to ensure her future market value in your eyes. I think she wanted the hammer, and with some hands on love and affection you would have had her pussy juiced up, her lips around your hammer and her sticky panties over your face. Do feel free to share her contacts details if you think she is up for more adventures.

Merry Christmas, mongers!

B.[/QUOTE]You are probably right. I no longer want anything to do with her I can pass on phone number and her ym user name, she is no longer on dia. Let me know if you want it.

[QUOTE=Blacklisted2010; 1229286]McDon:

Good report.

But I think the business lady liked you and wanted you all to herself. She wanted more than you would probably ever give her. In the end you probably saved yourself some "commitment dramas" later-when she would try other methods of attaching a leash of some sort to keep you all to herself.

Who knows how many "good" guys she has struck out on so far in her life so; hence, her playing hard to get. But, you could've hit that P*ssy real hard with a bit of patience explaination that: (1) you don't enjoy hard to get games, (2) you were feeling sexually frustrated and needed release (is her mouth working?) and (3) there was no point sleeping together if no sexual release, openess and bodily exploration was in the offering. Nothing personal, honesty is the best policy.

I'd bet a dollar that she could've probably blown your mind with the sex-which is what I think she came back knocking on the door for. I feel sorry for the lad that will end up marrying and taking her to his home country. I'd bet she'd use sex as negotiating tool and a weapon and would leave his ass the moment she got what she wants. I've seen this script one too many times.

I do understand your frustration with her though. Your description of her responses to you in bed read like what my ex-wife used that used sex as a negotiating tool did during our marriage. In the end I got fed up and left her ass; life is too short to spend frustrated in bed. These days, I let the women know up front that their hard to get games are not cool with me. Nothing personal; just not cool. Calling their BS usually get them to lossen up more often than not with me now.

Next time, call it and hit it.

BL2K[/QUOTE]You are right. In the txts that she sent me while in AC and the last few chats we had she sort of hinted that she is not into friends with benefits and wants an exclusive relationship. I don't lie to them, so they know upfront what I am after and that they won't be the only one that I will be seeing. I think it was a combination of few things that ruined it for me that night. First I went to cebu with the wrong mindset, second I wasn't patient enough with her and third I should have maybe been more gentle let her settle in the bed before making advances.

The thing is she did promise me the world over ym. Now I didn't put this in the report because I wanted to keep it shorter and only trip related but promises included sex on yacht, cruising to virgin islands near cebu (day 2 was planned for that initially) , also sex on some rooftops and funky apartments that she had access to as a realtor. What can I say we both had creative minds LOL.

Another thing I didn't mention is that she had only one previous relationship in her life and it ended up badly. The guy use to abuse her and beat her up to the point that she had to call the cops on him who couldn't do anything because he was related to a household name in the Philippines. One of the cops suggested she should live manila if he was such a bad bloke. She did and since she has been using vibrators. She also had a bad business experience with a Chinese man so she seemed like she had build a wall when it came to dealing with man. I could see her going down the path of one of my Jakarta favourites who few months ago ended up in a sperm bank and is now pregnant because she reached 30 and all her relationships were ending badly. I can actually see this one doing the same thing.

I think it could have happened under the right circumstances. Too late now, time to work on the next one.

I don't remember who it was that mentioned a Cebu Pacific flight from Cebu to AC, but I wish that I would have read it or at least had the sense to google before booking my roundtrip non-refundable MNL CEB flight on Philippine Air. That booking cost me 2454 PHP. I was supposed to leave Cebu at 11:10am and arrive in Manila at 12:30pm. From there I would have taken the Victory Liner bus to Angeles probably arriving around 5pm; almost 6 hours of travel time for the day.

After looking online and finding that Cebu Pacific flight that leaves Cebu at 5pm and arrives in Angeles at 6:20pm I decided to jump on it for 2289 PHP and take the 1227 PHP loss on the CEB MNL leg. To me it sounded like a damn good deal considering a taxi from Manila to Angeles is 2000 PHP. Also, I will be able to stay in Cebu a few hours longer and arrive directly into AC without wasting 2 or 3 hours in a bus or taxi only spending 1 hour and 20 minutes of travel time for the day. Sweet.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1230500]I don't remember who it was that mentioned a Cebu Pacific flight from Cebu to AC, but I wish that I would have read it or at least had the sense to google before booking my roundtrip non-refundable MNL CEB flight on Philippine Air.

After looking online and finding that Cebu Pacific flight that leaves Cebu at 5pm and arrives in Angeles at 6:20pm I decided to jump on it for 2289 PHP and take the 1227 PHP loss on the CEB MNL leg. To me it sounded like a damn good deal considering a taxi from Manila to Angeles is 2000 PHP. Also, I will be able to stay in Cebu a few hours longer and arrive directly into AC without wasting 2 or 3 hours in a bus or taxi only spending 1 hour and 20 minutes of travel time for the day. Sweet.[/QUOTE]The Cebu Pacific (CP) flight into AC from Cebu operates a few days a week and is the most direct route, but on occasion the flight is cancelled when the load factor is low. As a result you will be flown to Manila on the next available flight providing there are available seats and then bused to AC.

IMO it's worth booking the flight and rolling the dice. Worst thing that happens will be a longer journey to AC. Not sure if CP's website allows you to check how many seats have been sold like they do on PAL. This info might give you a good idea if the flight is a go.

For Mongers wanting to come to Phil for a 10 day trip, then the loop of Manila. Cebu. AC. Manila is a good round trip.

Cebu Pacific or Philippine Airlines from Manila to Cebu (1 hour). Cebu Pacific from Cebu to Clark (Angeles City airport) and then road from AC to Manila is a good round trip. Road from AC to Manila can be coach or if you want to get direct to the airport, you can get a driver with a company like beeline travel.

Cebu girls or Cubanas are definitely my favourite. In general they are kind, soft, sweet natured, good fresh positive outlook personalilities and speak reasonably good english.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1230514]The Cebu Pacific (CP) flight into AC from Cebu operates a few days a week and is the most direct route, but on occasion the flight is cancelled when the load factor is low. As a result you will be flown to Manila on the next available flight providing there are available seats and then bused to AC.

IMO it's worth booking the flight and rolling the dice. Worst thing that happens will be a longer journey to AC. Not sure if CP's website allows you to check how many seats have been sold like they do on PAL. This info might give you a good idea if the flight is a go.[/QUOTE]

I just checked in to the SuperCat from Cebu to Tagbilaran and there are been some changes. First of all, we now have to buy the ticket across the round and around the corner, not inside the door as before. It maybe a good idea to buy tickets in advance next time. The ticket now only includes 15kg luggage or Porter allowance and since we had dive gear, we had to pay an additional 400 peso but the funny thing is the number of control points:

1. 10 peso at the gate while in the taxi to get onto the pier.

2. Long queue to buy the ticket, lucky we arrived early.

3. Security guard to get into the building.

4. Machine luggage check.

5. Dog luggage check.

6. Weighing of the luggage and paying the mandatory 'Porter fee'

7. Ticket check and photo.

8. Check in.

9. Boarding ticket check.

Don't Filipinos love to put up barriers and control points.

Snow

[QUOTE=Dwight Fry;1230413]Was wondering why WR does not post anymore. We miss his reports.[/QUOTE]Yes I was also wondering where WR disappeared to.

He was very generous regarding recommendations from his substantial "TRAP LINE"

A Canadian Term. I have fond memories.

However, I know that he worked in Dubai and posted from there 3 years or so back.

Maybe he is off in the restricted middle east building up his $ for more fun.

Fun and frolicing in Cebu!

All the best wherever you are

[QUOTE=Snow Koala; 1230918]I just checked in to the SuperCat from Cebu to Tagbilaran and there are been some changes. First of all, we now have to buy the ticket across the round and around the corner, not inside the door as before. It maybe a good idea to buy tickets in advance next time. The ticket now only includes 15kg luggage or Porter allowance and since we had dive gear, we had to pay an additional 400 peso but the funny thing is the number of control points:

1. 10 peso at the gate while in the taxi to get onto the pier.

2. Long queue to buy the ticket, lucky we arrived early.

3. Security guard to get into the building.

4. Machine luggage check.

5. Dog luggage check.

6. Weighing of the luggage and paying the mandatory 'Porter fee'

7. Ticket check and photo.

8. Check in.

9. Boarding ticket check.

Don't Filipinos love to put up barriers and control points.

Snow[/QUOTE]Never complain about security. We Americans learn the hard way. Total security is good for all including passengers. As you know Phi has an insurgency and they would love to kill innocent people.

I never complain delay, waiting in line etc all because of security.

[QUOTE=Snow Koala;1230918]Don't Filipinos love to put up barriers and control points.Snow[/QUOTE]This reminds me heavily of another country setting up checks and controls within eyeview of the other controller.

[QUOTE=Snow Koala; 1230918]I just checked in to the SuperCat from Cebu to Tagbilaran and there are been some changes. First of all, we now have to buy the ticket across the round and around the corner, not inside the door as before. It maybe a good idea to buy tickets in advance next time. The ticket now only includes 15kg luggage or Porter allowance and since we had dive gear, we had to pay an additional 400 peso but the funny thing is the number of control points:

1. 10 peso at the gate while in the taxi to get onto the pier.

2. Long queue to buy the ticket, lucky we arrived early.

3. Security guard to get into the building.

4. Machine luggage check.

5. Dog luggage check.

6. Weighing of the luggage and paying the mandatory 'Porter fee'

7. Ticket check and photo.

8. Check in.

9. Boarding ticket check.

Don't Filipinos love to put up barriers and control points.

Snow[/QUOTE]You can buy fastcraft tickets at various locations around Cebu and not only at the pier. Personally I would not buy them more then a few days in advance and I would consult PAGASA to make sure the conditions will be safe to travel. A few months ago the fastcraft Weesam Express 8 left Tagbilaran heading for Cebu and ran aground near Talisay. The 200+ passengers and crew had to be rescued and the fastcraft was towed to Cebu.

Because you purchased Supercat tickets and not regular ferry tickets the luggage allowance is smaller. Faster=lighter and you paid the same as if you would have booked a flight on Cebu Pacific.

It's the Holiday period and increased security measures are in place since around Dec 20th. The main method to travel from island to island is by ferry, hence all the increased security. It doesn't sound to me like you went through any additional security because you were a foreigner and seemed pretty normal. Also armed gangs are somewhat bolder during the holiday period with more cash being spent in the malls and stores. Some of those gangs will travel to other islands to commit holdups and robberies and most will use ferries.

The use of a porter is not manditory and given the fact you had extra bags of dive gear the porter option is a good one. The price is small and as long as you didn't have anything too fragile in your bags, was worth it.

[QUOTE=David_33;1231091]I am in touch with WR and he is still as perverted as ever. He has a special cutie in Cebu and for personal reasons has stopped posting for the moment. He promises to return "better than ever" in the future.[/QUOTE]I hope WR has a lot of fun with is "special cutie in Cebu" and returns to the boards soon. Reading about his exploits made for a lot of fun.

HW

[QUOTE=David_33;1231091]I am in touch with WR and he is still as perverted as ever. He has a special cutie in Cebu and for personal reasons has stopped posting for the moment. He promises to return "better than ever" in the future.[/QUOTE]Does "better than ever" mean he has gone beyond just putting a dog collar and leash on his tarts and fucking them in the arse as they bark at the moon? Perhaps, he now puts a saddle on their backs, inserts a bit into their mouths and then rides them around the room as he digs his spurs into their sides and makes them feel the lash of his whip!

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1231251]Does "better than ever" mean he has gone beyond just putting a dog collar and leash on his tarts and fucking them in the arse as they bark at the moon? Perhaps, he now puts a saddle on their backs, inserts a bit into their mouths and then rides them around the room as he digs his spurs into their sides and makes them feel the lash of his whip![/QUOTE]Givin' me a woody here!

Yesterday afternoon I arranged to meet Erica the 18 year old girl from Robinsons again, this time at my hotel the Waterfront. I told her I was interested in a threesome and she told me she had an older sister aged 19 who would be willing to join us, so I agreed to meet the both of them. We arranged to meet early in the afternoon and late morning we exchanged the customary 100 million text messages before the meeting. I received the usual message "we are very hungry" as they were travelling in the taxi to the hotel and I resigned myself to the cost of a Jollibees once they arrived.

I don't know whether my tolerance levels are very low at the moment but when they had not arrived after 30 minutes of waiting out the front of the hotel, I told them if they were not here in 5 minutes I was history. I knew that this would cause panic since they were in a taxi with no means to pay the taxi, so several further text messages folllowed pleading with me not to leave.

Anyway after about a further 7-8 minutes a taxi pulls up and I recognise Erika in the front seat. However what unfolded next was a truly horrifying experience, as what looked like a family of slum dwellers emerged from the back seat of the taxi, four siblings ranging from the age of 13 to 19. The nineteen year old was introduced to me. Short, covered in acne, wearing the standard slum dwellers outfit of baggy shorts and basketball shirt and totally ugly. The rest of the tribe looked like they needed a good bath and delousing. My first words to Erika was "what the * is going on" and she just looked forlornly at me. I was so angry at these uninvited guests that my usual tact and diplomacy evaporated and I told her Erika to take her tribe of unwashed and " @%£ * the hell out of here". I also told her that her sister resembled a pig and no way would I have sex with her, even if she paid me!

I walked off towards the IT Park in total disgust hoping that none of the other guests had noticed that the circus was in town. Lots of text messages followed, begging for forgiveness, pleading they had no money to go home. I knew they had no money at all and no way of getting back to Mandaue so I relented ordered Erika back alone to the hotel and gave her the quickest, hardest loveless fuck she has probably had in a long time. I told her beforehand that I would only pay her 500 as punishment (I always pay 1000 for short time) for bringing her entire family and I gave her an extra 200 for the taxi. Before she left I asked her where her tribe of Neanderthals were hanging out and she told me they had gone home. That seemed strange as I knew they had no money but I did not think anymore about it. Once Erika was in the taxi and on her way I started receiving text messages from her clan asking me to tell Erika they were waiting by the IT Park.

I explained that she had already left for home, following which I must have had about 25 texts begging me for money to get home. Well to some of you mongers I may seem very harsh but I told them I had not wanted them to come to visit me, I had not asked them to come and visit me and it was not my problem (well apart from the one ugly sister that I had invited). Maybe it was cruel, I don't know what happened and how they got home, but no lasting harm came to them as Erika was on the phone this morning to me, texting her undying love for me.

Erika spent all day texting me declaring her undying love and I spent all day texting back saying I would only see her if she found a nice girl to join us for a threesome. I gave her my specifications, no older than 20, slim and cute. She told me she had many neighbours and she would bring a nice girl. I guess I should not continue to be surprised at the complete and utter stupidity of some Pinays, but guess who she turned up with at our pre arranged meeting place, Bo's Coffee inside Robinsons Mall?

Some of you may have already guessed the answer, she turned up again with her pig of a sister. To say I looked shocked on seeing them arrive is an understatement and as they sat down to join me at the table I whispered to her " you fucking stupid imbecile" to which she replied "what is an imbecile"

A very terse conversation followed with me trying to keep a cap on my boiling rage. I was just about to thrust a 20 peso note in her hand for the jeepney ride home just as she was protesting how good her sister was in bed when another Foreigner joined our table uninvited. He was an ageing unshaven American wanabee hippy, probably in his early 60s with a long grey pony tail and he interuppted our conversation and said to me " Hey my friend what scam are these two trying to pull on you?" Now I am sure he was just being helpful in his own way but he caught me at the wrong moment and I told him to mind his own %$& business and that I was a Cebu Veteran and I would take care of this myself. It was a particularly acidic response to his intervention and I did feel a bit bad afterwards but then I thought to myself, he had just made an entirely wrong assumption and interfered where he was not needed or not wanted. If you happen to be reading this I apologise, I was in a bad mood and you caught me at the wrong time. He looked a bit surprised muttered some apology and went back to join his other hippy friend at their own table.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1231392]Yesterday afternoon I arranged to meet Erica the 18 year old girl from Robinsons again, this time at my hotel the Waterfront. I told her I was interested in a threesome and she told me she had an older sister aged 19 who would be willing to join us, so I agreed to meet the both of them. We arranged to meet early in the afternoon and late morning we exchanged the customary 100 million text messages before the meeting. I received the usual message "we are very hungry" as they were travelling in the taxi to the hotel and I resigned myself to the cost of a Jollibees once they arrived.

Anyway after about a further 7-8 minutes a taxi pulls up and I recognise Erika in the front seat. However what unfolded next was a truly horrifying experience, as what looked like a family of slum dwellers emerged from the back seat of the taxi, four siblings ranging from the age of 13 to 19. The nineteen year old was introduced to me. Short, covered in acne, wearing the standard slum dwellers outfit of baggy shorts and basketball shirt and totally ugly. The rest of the tribe looked like they needed a good bath and delousing. My first words to Erika was "what the * is going on" and she just looked forlornly at me. I was so angry at these uninvited guests that my usual tact and diplomacy evaporated and I told her Erika to take her tribe of unwashed and "@£ * the hell out of here". I also told her that her sister resembled a pig and no way would I have sex with her, even if she paid me![/QUOTE]Mort that is some funny ass shit. I can't stop laughing. But the first time it was your fault. You only said you wanted a threesome. And to leave the selection of the third person to some other party is really asking for it. Even the second time when you said "cute." Cute is different to different people. But she really was an imbecile for bringing the same person back. LOL. We are very hungry. And y'all mfs are going to stay hungry if you are waiting on Mort to feed you. A man after my own heart.

Mortman, as a Cebu veteran you know how the Pinay family system works. I imagine that your cutie received the family psychological pile on in order to share the wealth, and there was pretty much nothing she could do about it.

[QUOTE=David_33;1231495]Mortman, as a Cebu veteran you know how the Pinay family system works. I imagine that your cutie received the family psychological pile on in order to share the wealth, and there was pretty much nothing she could do about it.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree. Chances are the sister or other family members put on the pressure to share the wealth and she was trapped into bringing her sister a second time.

Mortman personally I can understand your reactions and I would have been thinking the same thing you said out loud, but I would have kept them to myself. There was no use explaining your wants or situation to your girl that has limited mobility from her family or didn't really understand your requirements for a threesome.

I hate to play Monday morning quarterback so to speak but here is what I would have done. When the family piled out of the taxi I would have been upset too but it's pretty common for a girl to bring family members to get a free ride. Most just want to meet you and maybe get a meal. Since you met at IT park across from Waterfront I would have greeted everyone Hello, and then given your girl 300p for her younger siblings to go eat at Jollibee while you and her sister went back to your hotel room. Since you didn't buy any food or drinks for your girl or her sister the 300p you gave to her siblings is the same price you would have spent for the three of you to eat so you break even on that deal.

I would have went back to your room and even if the sister was not good looking there are ways around that. LOL. I dunno about you but banging two sisters at once is a bonus and should be looked upon as a nice little gift to yourself. Position the one you don't like with her ass in the air so you don't have to look at her, or get her to 69 with her sister so you can bang the good looking one from behind and then take your unit out and put it into the fugly ones mouth and get her to suck her sis's juice off and then back inside the cute one. If you really didn't like the sister close the blinds and darken the room and get her to undress who knows maybe she had a good body or something would have turned you onto her. If not there is something devilishly twisted when you cum on one sister and get the other one to lap it up or play with it, but hey to each there own. (insert big smiliey grin here).

If nothing about the sister turned you on get her to hold the camera and take plenty of pics of you ramming the cute one. Nothing says have a nice day like some good sex-pix from Cebu. I would have payed the sisters 500p each and given your girl 200p for a taxi. So that's a grand total of 1500p for a threesome. That's less than a barfine on Mango and you got to bang two sisters!

Once you have taken the fugly sis for the threesome you can tell your girl you didn't like her sister and want someone new. The sister will understand and that will allow your girl to save face and the freedom to invite new girls to the mix. I think you have found a very valuable source of threesomes with this girl you just have to remain calm, play your cards right and understand the girl's situation.

StokerAce88.

Each to their own, I personally prefer to leave farmyard animals where they belong and not bring them to my hotel room. Your suggested scenario may have worked well for you and for others, but I just felt like throwing up when I read your post. Maybe you would have felt different if you had seen the girl in the flesh so to speak.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1231544]StokerAce88.

Each to their own, I personally prefer to leave farmyard animals where they belong and not bring them to my hotel room. Your suggested scenario may have worked well for you and for others, but I just felt like throwing up when I read your post. Maybe you would have felt different if you had seen the girl in the flesh so to speak.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with the above. Whats the point of shagging something you don't like even if its free?

Mortman one suggestion though, if you have time leave Erika hanging for few days. Ocationally reply to her txt but make it clear that she fucked up and she owes you big time. Then find a suitable candidate for 3some and invite her and her only telling her you have a girl in the room and if she doesn't turn up alone she is out. Once you cut the hand that feeds they quickly learn the lesson.

Without seeing Erika's sister, there is no telling how any of us would have reacted. Stroker Ace88 sounds like he took a page from my father's book. He was a cross country trucker ever since I can remember. Once while riding with him, stopped a traffic light, he let out with a wolf whistle at some fat, ugly girl in the crosswalk. When I asked him why he would do such a thing, he replied "Even fat and ugly women need some loving. And since they don't get much attention from most men, they will do a better job of trying to please you than the pretty ones will." I'm not saying he was right, but there may be some wisdom to his logic. :D

Enjoy the hunt!

HW

Yes some good advice there. I would have used her to hold the camera or done her ass wr style I still keep thinking that post, she might even been good sex. Still one less fucked pussy out there for us others.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1231544]StokerAce88.

Each to their own, I personally prefer to leave farmyard animals where they belong and not bring them to my hotel room. Your suggested scenario may have worked well for you and for others, but I just felt like throwing up when I read your post. Maybe you would have felt different if you had seen the girl in the flesh so to speak.[/QUOTE]Alright point taken no way to tell because I was not there and didn't see her for myself, just saying there were options available that's all. I think if she was that bad no need to jerjer her or remove her clothes but handing her a camera is a good solution. ;)

[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos; 1231584]First off he should be happy that he is fortunate enough to flee from whatever Western bastion of hell he calls home where most likely he ignored and marginalized.

Second he requests a threesome from Non-pro if my reading compression serves me correctly then berates the girl when she doesn't show up with his idea of what 'threesome' mate should look like. Insults towards the girl impoverished family and words like imbecile, stupid being aimed at an 18 year old Filipina who in addition to this is willing to suffer the indignity of sleeping with a man old enough to be her grandfather and probably not in good physical or as it appears mental health.

What is amusing is that he felt the need to apologize to a faceless American monger he berated and not the Filipina who he abused emotionally and physically.

For her unforgivable deeds of bringing her family along and an 'ugly threesome mate' to meet this great guy he gives her in his own words a 'hard, loveless fuck' as if she hasn't experienced enough by being in his presence.

But then we are saddened when men like this are murdered on their knees begging for their lives in AC or struck by an assassin's bullet on the streets of Manila.

With such a mean temper and abusive nature it's no wonder he has to resort to paid sex with hungry 18 yr old squatters. No Western female or middle class Filipina would tolerate his shit. Not even one his age.[/QUOTE]I never quite thought about it before but you made some good points there. Maybe a lot of mongers come to the Philippines with a lot of anger in their hearts and can be abusive at times. We can never know if their murders were related to hard loveless fucks and treating the locals like barnyard animals. The very nature of mongering would indicate that mongers are men incapable of love and hence all of their fucks are loveless. As to whether the fucks are hard or not depends on age, physical fitness, psychological state, dosage and potency of dick pills consumed to induce a standing Hampton. I suspect that most mongers cannot deliver a 'hard' fuck like local tricycle driver, Froilan, who spends most of his waking hours pedaling around town. Whatever most mongers are able to muster in performance is likely to be sheer amusement to these girls.

Anyways, you are right. We should not be shedding tears for mongers who meet their end. They all led relatively comfortable and wealthy lives in the West. They made a conscious and informed choice to come to the Third World and pursue the hobby. Crying because they got gunned down by locals makes as much sense as crying for investors who lost their shirt in the stock market. They died they way they wanted it with their mongering boots on chasing pussy on a wing without a prayer. I wonder if there is a special place where dead mongers go and what it might be like.

Options are not really something a lot of mongers have at home. Are there exceptions? Sure there are but for many they lead sexless, loveless lives at home where they maintain a false image of respectability. They may have been fleeced and cast aside by wives, cheated out of pension by corporations and marginalized by society. So, they're mad. When they deplane in the Philippines they're in a foul mood. They don't want to just fuck someone. They want to fuck someone in the ass! Best to steer clear of them especially when they're soused and looking like angry birds. The last people they're looking to compromise with or empathize with are the girls who they intend to fuck to relieve their frustrations. You have to give the girls credit for being able to do what they do for 500 pesos and come back for more.

Some guys have said they would have handled the situation differently and compromised, but they must realize they are in the minority. Others are not so patient, flexible or concerned about the personal circumstances of the girls. Individual behavior can and will vary along with the sense of fairness. Just be thankful you're not the one on the receiving end.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1229015]And in Cebu do not try speak Tagalog[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1229074]What is wrong with speaking Tagalog in Cebu? It is the national language of the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Frenzy is right in that you will be better off trying to speak the local Bisayan dialect which is also spoken in Bohol, Negros and much of Mindanao. Tagalog is taught in the schools but less then 20 percent of the vocabulary is shared. Cebuanas can understand Tagalog but most Tagalog speakers have a very difficult time understanding Bisaya. The languages are not mutually intelligible.

Guess I need a break from the Philippines, the normal stupid little everyday irritations that life in the Philippines brings and that I normally shrug off as part of the deal of being here have begun to annoy me more and more. I was in SM Mall today collecting some medication from Watsons. (I am not yet in need of monger's pharmeceutical assistance as one silly poster suggested, nor am I at the grandfather age. Well not quite). The queues extended outside the shop so that it was difficult even to get to the front of the queue to collect my numbered ticket in order to be served.

Mine was number 65 and with 21 showing on the display I took a walk thinking 20 minutes would be plenty of time. I returned to find that they had processed 10 customers during my absence and were now serving number 31. I was eventually served at around the 30 minute mark, ordered my medication and paid for it. The cashier then walked off with my money in a little basket around the back of the shop to a cashier who then processed the order. I was told to wait at another counter where my medicine would be brought. About 20 minutes later another shop assistant brought my change and my medicine.

The shop was chaotic with customers and I counted 8 members of staff in the shop, plus one who was shop side helping customers who were unable to select goods from the displays as the queues went through the entire shop.

Went to Julianas again the other night, this time it was a 50 pesos cover charge, got my wrist stamped which means you can come and go as you please if the noise gets to much and you need a break. Lots of freelancers, lots of koreans and lots of local students. I had one girl would not take no for an answer and pushed her ass into my crotch, gyrating to the sound of the beat until she made me hard. She was very disappointed when I politely declined her request to come back to my hotel. I don't often use Juliannas but so long as you have a pulse, you will always find something to pull. The highlight of my evening was watching some Pinoy wanabee 'gangstas' shaven heads and little goatee beards trying to hip hop badly on the stage.

Spent last night with Cherry the DIA girl I met when having coffee with WR the other day. She is a real delight, cute and slim and she spent the night at my hotel. We finally got to sleep at 3am in the morning. Hers is a typically sad story, her father died when she was very young, she lives in a slum area just off Escario Street in Cebu City, she has no siblings and her mother abandoned her to go and work in Kuwait and has never sent a penny to her since leaving. She makes a living the only way she knows how. I dropped her off at Ayalla this afternoon after paying her and it was great to see her eyes light up when I gave her a massive bar of Tobelerone. Just received a text from her this evening wanting to come round again. I wonder how many short time fucks she has had during the afternoon from Ayalla punters?

Mortman, I know the feeling when all the fuses goes at once. In her world I am sure she tried, but it is so easy to get frustrated on these constant half ass attempts at everything. The up side is that this cultural trait means that this country is always f*cked, and allows old foreign men to bang young local women for material benefits.

Sure, I can see a point in FP:s and CM:s posta but I recent any attempt to victimize these girls. If an 18 year old girl is a victim, we are in a sense all victims. I rather see us all as capable and at the same time responsible to evolve as humans. Even a teenage pinay is responsible for her choices, however limited they might be.

In general I think many pinays will "bring a friend" that will not impose any risk of replacing her as the main attraction. Only the ones that are well into the P4P referral game, will bring you the gems, simply because they have a defined financial system that will rewards them both in any case. I think Frenzy3 is the expert in this area with his constant flow of petite stunners, that all seem to know each other well.

We all have different strategies in life, and mine is to always try to just forget or avoid any games of qualifying and / or hard fostering. A behavior is more efficiently modified with kindness, motivators and a smile. These are very young girls in a country of despair. No need for an adult man to profile oneself against what we consider to be the girls lack of judgement. Easy to say, but I also have the greatest respect for how hard it is to keep smiling and maintain self control when disappointed, after building up expectations and solid blue balls. Some years ago I waited three hours for the blow job expert Candy to bring in her "slim teenage friend with huge tits", only to meet a middle aged cow that probably did the Asian tour for a decade before landing in the P4P backwaters of Davao. I did not smile when I walked away. But evolution means setting up standards that we work towards.

Barba's strategy to keep this asset on the list would be simple and honest;

"Erica, I did not find your sister attractive so I will find a girl myself, and then I will text you for the threesome. I will pay you 1000 peso after we had the threesome. Please confirm if this sounds like a good plan for you. Please feel free to share the Facebook page of any friend you might find that are willing to see me in private or participate in the threesome. I am looking forward to see you soon."

Simple marketing build up of the message:

Introduction.

Positive information (1000 PHP awaiting her)

Negative information (sharing Mortman to possible competitors that might be prettier than her and her sister)

Positive information ("I care for your company and you have future incomes to collect")

All the best from Barba.

HNY

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1231660]Frenzy is right in that you will be better off trying to speak the local Bisayan dialect which is also spoken in Bohol, Negros and much of Mindanao. Tagalog is taught in the schools but less then 20 percent of the vocabulary is shared. Cebuanas can understand Tagalog but most Tagalog speakers have a very difficult time understanding Bisaya. The languages are not mutually intelligible.[/QUOTE]I did not say that it was a bad thing to learn to speak the local Bisayan dialect while in Cebu. I was simply disputing Frenzy's comment that you should not even "try to speak Tagalog" in Cebu. I agree that it would be better to speak Bisayan, but it should be no problem to speak Tagalog. I know that most of the Manila natives would not understand any of the other dialects from various areas of the Philippines. I dated, and almost made the fatal mistake of marrying a girl that came from Bislig. She could speak Tagalog, Bisayan, some Muslim dialect, English and Korean. She was a very smart Filipina. Unfortunately, it is much easier to find study material for learning Tagalog than it is for Bisayan or any other dialect. If a monger has the time and interest to study all the dialects of the Philippines, good for him. If he manages to learn only Tagalog, he should be able to at least get around. He may not understand everything being said around him, but I bet most mongers don't know any language of the localities they visit. There's not much need for speaking when fucking is the main purpose of your visit.

HW

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1231811]I did not say that it was a bad thing to learn to speak the local Bisayan dialect while in Cebu. I was simply disputing Frenzy's comment that you should not even "try to speak Tagalog" in Cebu. I agree that it would be better to speak Bisayan, but it should be no problem to speak Tagalog. I know that most of the Manila natives would not understand any of the other dialects from various areas of the Philippines. I dated, and almost made the fatal mistake of marrying a girl that came from Bislig. She could speak Tagalog, Bisayan, some Muslim dialect, English and Korean. She was a very smart Filipina. Unfortunately, it is much easier to find study material for learning Tagalog than it is for Bisayan or any other dialect. If a monger has the time and interest to study all the dialects of the Philippines, good for him. If he manages to learn only Tagalog, he should be able to at least get around. He may not understand everything being said around him, but I bet most mongers don't know any language of the localities they visit. There's not much need for speaking when fucking is the main purpose of your visit.

HW[/QUOTE]First they speak English more than tagalog. Second it is a insult to them as they speak cubano at home in shops and government agencies it shows you are ignorant. Third some Tagalog word are cubano words with different meanings.

That last point is one that also will get you no respect learn the culture here even bar girls are still human. The only reason PI is a good monger spot is the peso is devalued they still have a society here one that makes the family first. We are also lucky that it is a mans world here with laws that do not protect women but still there are laws against prostitution.

Try spending time learning about the place. I find guys who do not end up hating the place, as they just see it for a place to get sex and dislike every thing else.

For me I love the cubano people the sex is just a bonus.

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1231811]I did not say that it was a bad thing to learn to speak the local Bisayan dialect while in Cebu. I was simply disputing Frenzy's comment that you should not even "try to speak Tagalog" in Cebu. I agree that it would be better to speak Bisayan, but it should be no problem to speak Tagalog.

There's not much need for speaking when fucking is the main purpose of your visit.[/QUOTE]Frenzy is correct when he posted it's bad to speak Tagalog in Cebu. Seems there has been a subtle but very real shift in perception about foreign men visiting the Philippines for sex. When you bust out the 'Taglish' chances are you will raise red flags from alot of the women in Cebu.

This subtle shift has happened within the 12 months and makes getting close and gaining the trust of the hottest of the hot girls in Cebu more difficult than in the past. The average girls might find it 'cute' that you know some Tagalog or not really care at all, but the ramp model ones spend alot more time checking and analyzing who the guy is and what his intentions are.

The word is out on foreigners in Cebu and I hear many stories from girls. How a foreigner came to meet a girl they know be it a classmate, family member or neighbor and he promosed marriage to the girl and her family. He spends a week banging the girl and then walks away or sends the girl home and on to the next girl. Now she is ashamed and embarassed and doesn't know what to tell her family and her family is boiling mad with all the bola2.

So my advice to anyone meeting a girl is to keep the Tagalog to yourself, never mention you have visited Thailand and be straight with the girls about your intentions and do not promise marriage to get into her panties.

Bargirls, semi-pros or P4P will laugh at the Bisaya or Tagalog words you mix up so no need to hide it from them.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1231867]So my advice to anyone meeting a girl is to keep the Tagalog to yourself, never mention you have visited Thailand and be straight with the girls about your intentions and do not promise marriage to get into her panties.[/QUOTE]SA88 this is very good advice. I have been questioned twice in the last year by prospective gfs if I have ever visited Thailand. Despite their limited knowledge of geography and the world in general, Thailand now has a similar reputation in the Philippines to the one it has acquired in the Western hemisphere, as a sex tourist destination. It is kind of ironic since most of us are here in the Philippines for the same thing we seek in Thailand.

Of course I lied convincingly to the girl and told her I had never set foot in the country. She was one of the best fucks I ever had!

Ah Jezuz Fucking CHRIST are we going to start this shit AGAIN!

Most Humble suggestion: 1 post per day per BM, ONE (1) response per perceived insult.

I am going to have ta ignore bm's left and right to get to any useful reporting.

[QUOTE=Snow Koala; 1230608]For Mongers wanting to come to Phil for a 10 day trip, then the loop of Manila. Cebu. AC. Manila is a good round trip.

Cebu Pacific or Philippine Airlines from Manila to Cebu (1 hour). Cebu Pacific from Cebu to Clark (Angeles City airport) and then road from AC to Manila is a good round trip.[/QUOTE]If you going Cebu Pacific pay attention to there baggage fees or you might be in for a big surprise, speaking from experience. Everything on that airline is an add-on even choosing a seat prior to flight. Also if your plane breaks down in Cebu they most likely don't have the parts because they are located in Manila. That is what happen to me on a flight leaving Cebu, lucky I was able to get on another flight but almost missed my international connection in Manila.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1231392]Yesterday afternoon I arranged to meet Erica the 18 year old girl from Robinsons again, this time at my hotel the Waterfront. I told her I was interested in a threesome and she told me she had an older sister aged 19 who would be willing to join us, so I agreed to meet the both of them. We arranged to meet early in the afternoon and late morning we exchanged the customary 100 million text messages before the meeting. I received the usual message "we are very hungry" as they were travelling in the taxi to the hotel and I resigned myself to the cost of a Jollibees once they arrived.[/quote]I personally don't see "we are very hungry" as the norm, it should be a red flag, especially the 'we' part.

[quote]I don't know whether my tolerance levels are very low at the moment but when they had not arrived after 30 minutes of waiting out the front of the hotel, I told them if they were not here in 5 minutes I was history. I knew that this would cause panic since they were in a taxi with no means to pay the taxi, so several further text messages folllowed pleading with me not to leave.[/quote]I have the same tolerance level problem, after a while the Philippines can get you down that's why every 59 days at the end of my first extension I go to Thailand or someplace for a vacation. You have to spend time here to really understand this.

Here's a little tip that has worked out pretty good for me, always tell a Pinay to meet you 30 minutes earlier than you really want her to meet you. If she shows up on time and text asking where you are just text her back 'wait me' she will understand, also this should be a green flag that you have probably found a good Pinay.

[quote]Anyway after about a further 7-8 minutes a taxi pulls up and I recognise Erika in the front seat. However what unfolded next was a truly horrifying experience, as what looked like a family of slum dwellers emerged from the back seat of the taxi, four siblings ranging from the age of 13 to 19. The nineteen year old was introduced to me. Short, covered in acne, wearing the standard slum dwellers outfit of baggy shorts and basketball shirt and totally ugly. The rest of the tribe looked like they needed a good bath and delousing. My first words to Erika was "what the * is going on" and she just looked forlornly at me. I was so angry at these uninvited guests that my usual tact and diplomacy evaporated and I told her Erika to take her tribe of unwashed and " @%£ * the hell out of here". I also told her that her sister resembled a pig and no way would I have sex with her, even if she paid me![/quote]What they looked like is exactly what they are. As someone else pointed out she had a lot of pressure from her sibling to share the wealth. You would have been better served to leave the pig remark out, but I understand your frustration. Remember family loyalty is a very big thing here and she felt obligated to help her sister make some money.

The extra people could have been avoided by not putting her in a taxi to begin with. You could have told her to use the same method of transportation that she used to get to the mall, probably Jeepney.

I only pay for taxis when there is no other choice. If a non bar girl insist on a taxi it should be a big red flag, she is a full blown working girl and probably not going to be a GFI. I have a friend who says only two kinds of people use taxis in Cebu, foreigners and hookers, if she insist on a taxi ask her which she is and then move on.

If you are just in a hurry for her to arrive then have her take a motorcycle taxis, or 'Habal-Habal' as they are called, it's cheaper (depending on distance) and faster than a regular taxi, but more expensive than a Jeepney.

[quote]I walked off towards the IT Park in total disgust hoping that none of the other guests had noticed that the circus was in town. Lots of text messages followed, begging for forgiveness, pleading they had no money to go home. I knew they had no money at all and no way of getting back to Mandaue so I relented ordered Erika back alone to the hotel and gave her the quickest, hardest loveless fuck she has probably had in a long time. I told her beforehand that I would only pay her 500 as punishment (I always pay 1000 for short time) for bringing her entire family and I gave her an extra 200 for the taxi. Before she left I asked her where her tribe of Neanderthals were hanging out and she told me they had gone home. That seemed strange as I knew they had no money but I did not think anymore about it. Once Erika was in the taxi and on her way I started receiving text messages from her clan asking me to tell Erika they were waiting by the IT Park.[/quote]She was probably thinking wow please punish me some more. If you are paying anyone other than bar girls more than 500p you are over paying IMHO.

[quote]I explained that she had already left for home, following which I must have had about 25 texts begging me for money to get home. Well to some of you mongers I may seem very harsh but I told them I had not wanted them to come to visit me, I had not asked them to come and visit me and it was not my problem (well apart from the one ugly sister that I had invited). Maybe it was cruel, I don't know what happened and how they got home, but no lasting harm came to them as Erika was on the phone this morning to me, texting her undying love for me.[/QUOTE]I don't think you were 'harsh' by our standards, but remember you must be very simplistic here, even then they seem to hear only what they want to hear. In this case I suspect she was with them when they were texting you begging for money.

I doubt they used that 200p for taxi, most likely they met up and jumped on a 7p Jeepney, for a grand total of 28p or 56p if it was 'two rides' as they say.

One other thing is the age, if a Pinay says she is 18 she may very well only be 17, even girls that are 25 refer to themselves as 26, I think it must be an Asian thing, they seem to think they are one at birth. So I strongly suggest you trust but verify.

This post is intended to be helpful in nature and should not be viewed as being derogatory to Mortman in any way, shape, or form. Judging from his post Mortman and I think a lot alike, and I've made a lot of the same mistakes. Mortman thank you for sharing your experience with us.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1232572]Your saying works both ways. If he's getting fucked over maybe he paying to little.

Still amazes me guys spend thousands on air and hotel to come here then complain about $2[/QUOTE]Amen Frenzy. It's a great mystery to me as well. For those of us who live here, the possibility of getting scammed is one of the life's minor inconveniences. As I've said before, if you allow this stuff to get to you, you're going to wind up angry for most of the time you spend here. Unless one is somewhat masochistic, then I can't understand the motivation for seeking a state of permanent anger. I've met guys who build themselves into states of towering fury over getting ripped off for less than a dollar. Life is ineed a mystery.

GE

There is a great divide in the breath and knowledge or lack-there-of when it comes to the Philippines, and therein lies the real crux of the issue. There are several categories of guys on the Philippine board.

-Lurker who has never visited.

-Someone who plans to visit one day (maybe just a fantasy)

-Someone who spent a few days in the Philippines some years ago.

-Someone who spent a week total in the Philippines.

-Someone who spends a week a year in the Philippines.

-Someone who visits a few times a year but does not stay long.

-Someone who spends 200+ days a year in the Philippines.

-Those who live in the Philippines.

Philippine society is more like an onion. It has many layers each one digging deeper and deeper into the fabric and culture. On the surface things seem simplistic and relatively straight forward. The real problem begins when a question of culture, etiquette or ethics (western or Filipino) comes up on the board. Guys in the last two categories spend great amounts of time and effort trying to explain to the rest of the board the real reasons and motivations behind certain local actions and reactions, with little success. It's not a question of IQ or observation that's lacking, but of experience and understanding. The more time someone spends in the Philippines the more one learns.

The recent 'hot button' topics that have been labeled by some as outright scams are a perfect example of issues that go deeper. Some of these incidents are scams only on the surface but to the guys in the last two categories it's a cultural issue. No amount of explaining will convince some otherwise. Many senior members have in the past thrown up there hands in frustration and stopped posting for that very reason.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1232902]. SNIP.

Philippine society is more like an onion. It has many layers each one digging deeper and deeper into the fabric and culture. On the surface things seem simplistic and relatively straight forward. The real problem begins when a question of culture, etiquette or ethics (western or Filipino) comes up on the board. Guys in the last two categories spend great amounts of time and effort trying to explain to the rest of the board the real reasons and motivations behind certain local actions and reactions, with little success. It's not a question of IQ or observation that's lacking, but of experience and understanding. The more time someone spends in the Philippines the more one learns.

The recent 'hot button' topics that have been labeled by some as outright scams are a perfect example of issues that go deeper. Some of these incidents are scams only on the surface but to the guys in the last two categories it's a cultural issue. No amount of explaining will convince some otherwise. Many senior members have in the past thrown up there hands in frustration and stopped posting for that very reason.[/QUOTE]Excellent analysis Stroker.

Count me in as one of the senior members who lives (and works) here and who has thrown up my hands in frustration at some of the classically erroneous information posted here based on a few days in town. The metaphor of the Philippines as an onion with lots of layers is so true.

National Book Store has a whole shelf devoted to understanding Filipino cultures, norms, folk lores, business practices etc, and I often give one of these books to any visiting foreign staff to read before they launch themselves into dealing with Filipino colleagues.

Some titles picked at random from my own personal bookshelf:

- Working with Filipinos: a cross-cultural encounter (Author: F. Landa Jocano)

- Understanding Filipino Values: a Management Approach (Author: Tomas D Andres)

- Understanding (Ilocano, Visayan, Tagalog) Values. 3 books all written by Tomas D. Andres.

For guys who genuinely want to understand what is going on around them, I suggest you indulge yourself in some self-education. Such a ploy helped me considerably to assimilate into the local environment, and to understand just what was going on in some of these b/gs, DIA profiles and FLs minds.

For the 2 week "slash and burn" monger, no need to worry about it. Just carry on full tilt, wreak havoc, and leave without a backward glance, but please don't complain on forums like ISG about how things are so very different here when you don't try to analyse why.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1232914]- Working with Filipinos: a cross-cultural encounter (Author: F. Landa Jocano)

- Understanding Filipino Values: a Management Approach (Author: Tomas D Andres)

- Understanding (Ilocano, Visayan, Tagalog) Values. 3 books all written by Tomas D. Andres.[/QUOTE]Nice. On one of the other boards a few years ago, some guy posted a link to some cultural anthropology. Some european sociologists went to Philippines and lived with several tribes in the 1920's, and another group went in the 1950's. The group from the 1920's lived with a kampapangan community for about one year, then moved north and lived with a tribe east of the baguio mountain area, then went to the farthest north tip of Luzon and lived with a tribe there for a year. In their writing (some journal) , which was extensive, they described dating, marriage, divorce / separation, food gathering (farming and trading for fish) , parties, social activities, and war-making (which was not uncommon with neighboring tribes). Interestingly, they describe many of the current filipine cultural oddities that we see today:

* filipinos in all tribes like to leave decision-making up to anyone other than themselves (bahala ka. Its up to you. I can't decide, so you decide). Fortunately there was always one person or a group that would make important decisions, even if the europeans thought those decisions were terrible.

* filipinos in all tribes like to bring gifts to others, and receive gifts when others visit them (pasalubong)

* filipinos often begged repeatedly for gifts / money from any stranger passing through the village. This asking of money from the europeans was constant in every community they lived in, during their entire stay (up to one year) with the villagers. Tribal leaders would routinely ask the europeans to go to the nearest town and buy things for the tribe. While the tribe had enough resources to trade for what they wanted, the tribe attempted to get the sociologists to pay for what they wanted. Does this not sound like the many, many men who visit with their pinay's family, only to be dragged to a restaurant and made to pay for the family's meal? Or he is dragged to the mall?

* tribal filipinos have trouble saying "I don't know" when they don't know an answer. They will make up any answer before saying "I don't know."

There were several journal articles, and they were long. Very interesting reading. One tribe had interesting pre-marital customs for the young couple to be married (it all sounded like teenage drama, but for the whole tribe to watch and enjoy). Some of the things reported have disappeared as the culture advances into westernization.

I've known RK for quite a while now, and he's a seriously smart guy and a student of human (Pinoy-human) nature, so he does understand the mores, the habits and motivations inhering in local culture much better than most, and we've spent some pleasant hours together discussing the aforementioned. While I find it generally true, that the longer you stay here, particularly if you work with Filipinos, the more you understand, it's equally true that there are some aspects of the culture that I've given up even trying to understand. I've concluded that either my understanding is purely superficial or that there's no set of unifying principles to the place at all.

The reluctance, for example to engage in critical thought, to analyze personal situations, to plan for the longer range in a way that doesn't resemble wish fulfillment are all traits that I've rarely (perhaps never) observed here, even among seriously smart Filipinos. The absence of a true literary corpus, of a national musical heritage, the absence of widespread indigenous theater and the lack of poetry are lacunae that I don't think I've ever observed elsewhere. Nor can I understand the fatalism-the "other-directedness"-that seems to pervade the culture. And there's nothing in my training, my experience or my reading that has helped me to understand.

I was with a French friend who lives here, a few nights ago, and we were discussing French poetry, and then the more general subject of poetry. All of a sudden he said something like: "You know, I could never have this conversation with a Filipino. Filipinos do not 'get' poetry." And he went on to say that even his wife, who spent a decade with him in France, has any grasp of what poetry is, and why he "needs" expat friends with whom he can share his traditional cultural milieu. I feel the same. I could never survive here in a Filipino bubble, no matter how well educated, kind and well meaning my friends were. The bottom line for me, is that there's little or no intellectual engagement here, and precious little in the way of abstract thought.

The most startling characteristic of the onion is that it has no core. Just a series of layers that, once removed, reveal nothing at all. Perhaps then, the analogy of this country to the onion is more apt than I realized, because I think the same may be true of the Philippines.

GE.

GE

GE,

At the risk of soundling like a snob, I quite agree that intellectually I am not challenged here. I have been working in Philippines for 1. 5 years for a foreign company in a highly specialist technical area. Although I work with some very smart Filipinos with international working experience who I enjoy working with, I find I crave the conference calls with the head office just to engage in intellectually challenging conversation. The concepts of "what if", risk analysis and scenario based planning, I have simply given up on the attempts at conversation.

For me this converstaion came up when thinking longer term about retiring here in Philippines. After recently travelling around Philippines and talking to a few early retirees, I realised my brain would go to mush which I don't think I am ready for that.

Snow.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1233069]I've known RK for quite a while now, and he's a seriously smart guy and a student of human (Pinoy-human) nature, so he does understand the mores, the habits and motivations inhering in local culture much better than most, and we've spent some pleasant hours together discussing the aforementioned. While I find it generally true, that the longer you stay here, particularly if you work with Filipinos, the more you understand, it's equally true that there are some aspects of the culture that I've given up even trying to understand. I've concluded that either my understanding is purely superficial or that there's no set of unifying principles to the place at all.

The reluctance, for example to engage in critical thought, to analyze personal situations, to plan for the longer range in a way that doesn't resemble wish fulfillment are all traits that I've rarely (perhaps never) observed here, even among seriously smart Filipinos. The absence of a true literary corpus, of a national musical heritage, the absence of widespread indigenous theater and the lack of poetry are lacunae that I don't think I've ever observed elsewhere. Nor can I understand the fatalism-the "other-directedness"-that seems to pervade the culture. And there's nothing in my training, my experience or my reading that has helped me to understand.

I was with a French friend who lives here, a few nights ago, and we were discussing French poetry, and then the more general subject of poetry. All of a sudden he said something like: "You know, I could never have this conversation with a Filipino. Filipinos do not 'get' poetry." And he went on to say that even his wife, who spent a decade with him in France, has any grasp of what poetry is, and why he "needs" expat friends with whom he can share his traditional cultural milieu. I feel the same. I could never survive here in a Filipino bubble, no matter how well educated, kind and well meaning my friends were. The bottom line for me, is that there's little or no intellectual engagement here, and precious little in the way of abstract thought.

The most startling characteristic of the onion is that it has no core. Just a series of layers that, once removed, reveal nothing at all. Perhaps then, the analogy of this country to the onion is more apt than I realized, because I think the same may be true of the Philippines.

GE.

GE[/QUOTE]

Snow Koala, I would argue that, having come to that realization, you're in a good position to retire, since you have rocognized that you will continue to need protracted, regular contact with foreigners who share similar intellectual interests. It's that perception, or should I say acting on that perception that enables me to survive and thrive here. The fact is that you can find a circle of similarly-minded friends, and once you've done that, you can preserve your brain, your sanity, and your sexual appetite. It's recognizing the limitations of the country, and figuring out how to live well within them, that enables RK, several others whom I know well and me to survive quite well and to enjoy our lives here. It depends on where you live and, to a certain extent on what you do with your time.

GE

ge rk and others who move here do not stop trying to peel the onion. pi is made up of so many different people enjoy it. i have 4 gf who live with me and the differences in experiance and iq is so varied. the highest iq is also the best looker and the one i spend more time with her and her family. the next girl is the dumbest and who's family is in and out of jail she use to work in the bars she started work when she was 14 knows the life of hard knocks. the next is the farmers daughter. the last is the cousin of one of my longest serving employees she got into it as she saw how much i pay. tell me where else you get such a mix.

point is it is a rich life of many experience and never dull. sure i have time to read forums, books and also work. most of the time expats have to drag me away from my life here.

I have used the onion analogy for a long time to explain culture.

But I start from the inside. The core of the onion is basic animal behaviour, survival, procreation.

The first time that I was in PNG, a long time ago, most of the people behaved this way.

Over time, and helped by outside influence, layers of the onion are added by society. Each layer increasingly inhibits basic animal behaviour, and inhibits our actions. As time goes by, society adds more layers, more regulations, more rules, more inhibitions.

Obviously some societies have many more layers than others.

So from my perspective, the behaviours that I observe in most filipinos are those of the hunter-gatherer culture. And there are far less layers that on those from western culture, particularly countries of British origins, who have been trapped by the Victorian ethic regarding sexuality and sexual behaviour.

The predilection of young pinays to hav children reflects an onion with many fewer layers, much closer to the core behaviours of procreation and survival.

Similarly, mating rituals in the Philippines are both less complex and more complex than those of western countries, particularly of those countries infused with the Victorian ethic.

I can talk about this stuff for a long time, because I have had a particular interest in cultures for a long time.

G

Hi Guys,

Just thought I'd put a shout out to all of the mongers I see wandering around Ayala each day. Hope you are enjoying the pickings. It is hard to walk through the centre of the Terraces without being asked by a young one if I am looking for a lady, or do I have the time etc. Initially when I strolled through looking fo rclassic hookers I was looking for high heled short skirt hotties. The talent on offer is so much more subtle.

I stopped off at TGI Fridays expecting to chat to one of the ladies wandering bye or to see if I was approached there. Ending up chatting to a drunk young lady and the rest is history. So far, three freebies in three nights. It really is a wonderful country.

Will update if I venture into the P4P scene.

AJ.

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo;1233142]three freebies in three nights.[/QUOTE]When I read this kind of comment I cringe. The girls won't lower themselves to ask for money. If one would RTFF they might learn a little about the Philippine girl mindset.

[QUOTE=David_33;1233275]When I read this kind of comment I cringe. The girls won't lower themselves to ask for money. If one would RTFF they might learn a little about the Philippine girl mindset.[/QUOTE]If I ask them if they want money or am I supposed to give them money what will they say? Is there any case or situation when a girl would be a freebie?

Most girls will ask for money at some point. If she doesn't ask I would still give her something but at the end of the day I think sometimes we are too nice to DIA's or mall pick ups. I realise that they are poor and all that and help will be appreciated but there is the argument that we are getting them use to money and in some ways we are pushing them to prostitution. Long time ago I brought a regular girl that worked in the department store in SM to LAC in malate. My next trip I found her in LAC, she ditched her job to because she figured she would make more money in LAC.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1233285]Is there any case or situation when a girl would be a freebie?[/QUOTE]If she has a well paying job and a car. Maybe someone like the real estate executive kicked out of a forum member's room at the Radisson.

But I think that not giving a girl who lives in abject poverty 500 or 1000 pesos after she has made you happy is not something to be proud of. I don't think that this amount of money will be spoiling thechica, it will probably be spent on a bag of rice for the family.

[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1233250]Aussie Jo,

I'm looking forward to your report.

By the terraces are you referring to the open area, with the steps and the fountains?

I'll be in Cebu this May.[/QUOTE]Yes. I am amazed at how many western single men frequent the area. I'll generalise and say that most of us are juggling various txt messages and looking at hotties. The lift at the hotel is busy with punters taking their catches to the rooms. I'm not sure if I should wink at them in the lift or what. I'm working during the day and like to give the guys support keeping the game up during the day light hours.

Aj

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1233285]If I ask them if they want money or am I supposed to give them money what will they say? Is there any case or situation when a girl would be a freebie?[/QUOTE]It is very easy. Slide a 1000P in her pocket and say this is for your taxi, cell load.

Robb

[QUOTE=David_33;1233275]When I read this kind of comment I cringe. The girls won't lower themselves to ask for money. If one would RTFF they might learn a little about the Philippine girl mindset.[/QUOTE]I agree. It amazes me when I read so many reports of girls scamming on DIA, but I think a lot of guys who use the site scam the girls just as much. If they lived here and seen the true local living conditions of these girls maybe they would have more compassion.

Robb

GE,

I think you have hit the nail on the head. I have been here in Makati for 1. 5 years but I was posted here because the Philippine office of our company was a basketcase. Now the customers are happy, the staff are happy and the business is profitable again, however, the cost is that I have worked extremely long hours during this time. This means I have work, mongering, some dive drips around Phil and sleep and not a lot else. Ex-pat consultants come from head office to visit once per month and I know a couple of local expats but I have not had time to spend time with them. Since the business is now doing well I have a 2012 objective to get a better balance.

To use your words, I survive here but I don't thrive here.

I need to get some out of work things to do preferrably with ex-pats. I have been working as an ex-pat for 13 years now around the world in 8 countries and generally I can get on-top of the job within 3-6 months but not here.

Snow.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1233113]Snow Koala, I would argue that, having come to that realization, you're in a good position to retire, since you have rocognized that you will continue to need protracted, regular contact with foreigners who share similar intellectual interests. It's that perception, or should I say acting on that perception that enables me to survive and thrive here. The fact is that you can find a circle of similarly-minded friends, and once you've done that, you can preserve your brain, your sanity, and your sexual appetite. It's recognizing the limitations of the country, and figuring out how to live well within them, that enables RK, several others whom I know well and me to survive quite well and to enjoy our lives here. It depends on where you live and, to a certain extent on what you do with your time.

GE[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1233295]Most girls will ask for money at some point. If she doesn't ask I would still give her something but at the end of the day I think sometimes we are too nice to DIA's or mall pick ups. I realise that they are poor and all that and help will be appreciated but there is the argument that we are getting them use to money and in some ways we are pushing them to prostitution. Long time ago I brought a regular girl that worked in the department store in SM to LAC in malate. My next trip I found her in LAC, she ditched her job to because she figured she would make more money in LAC.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me. Once I needed to replace my watch battery. Went to Robinson and found a booth. The good looking girl working there told me to leave the watch and asked for my phone number so that she will call me when it is ready. Philippinos are just lazy to do the job right away which only takes few minutes. Anyway she did call me in about an hour and told me to come and pick up the watch. I went paid and got the watch back.

Later in the evening she sent me a text asking me if the watch is working ok? We continued chatting and I invited her for dinner after she got off at 7PM. We had dinner and parted. There was no discussion about coming to my hotel. I did not want to push it because I wanted the offer to come from her. She texted me again next evening telling me she is free for the evening. I asked her to come to my room. Anyway it was fun. Later we went to dinner and she wanted to go to a disco. Since I did not know any other dancing place except LA cafe, I took her there and went upstairs. We danced, drank and she was impressed by the set up. She was probably impressed by the number of foreigners there. During the time we spent there she did talk to some girls in tagalog. We did meet few more times but spent most of the time in the room enjoying each other.

After a few months I went back to LA cafe and there she was dressed up. She told me that she got laid off from her job etc and that is why she went to LA cafe to look for a foreigner BF. I wished her luck.

I did not see her after that in LA cafe. Maybe she got a sponsor.

I had a 21 yr old gal from Tagged for a few hours. She served me well and also allowed some great pictures. I gave her 700 and she seemed genuinely surprised. In a good way. I'm not sure if she was getting less from others or was a newbie at the game. She's been wanting another meeting every since. X.

[QUOTE=David_33; 1233312]If she has a well paying job and a car. Maybe someone like the real estate executive kicked out of a forum member's room at the Radisson.

But I think that not giving a girl who lives in abject poverty 500 or 1000 pesos after she has made you happy is not something to be proud of. I don't think that this amount of money will be spoiling thechica, it will probably be spent on a bag of rice for the family.[/QUOTE]

Recently pre Christmas in Manila for work so threw in a few days in Cebu for good measure.

Arrived International airport and after reading the motivational platitudes at the airport toilet, walked over to domestic.

Personally I think they should change the toilet slogans to something like 'Foreigners, Please leave your expectations here at the airport and collect on departure. Obviously with the exception of girls and beaches. '

If you follow that simple advice possible problems and annoyances in the Philippines will be significantly reduced.

I write this because I've seen an increase in meltdowns, people losing it over small things.

The most classic was an American guy screaming in a restaurant, 'it's called Fish and Chips! They're supposed to come together! Now this guy was screaming at a tiny little waitress and almost physically threatening her because his chips came a bit after the fish.

Anyhow, just an observation.

Back to the trip. I arrived and walked over to the domestic terminal. Immediately spotted extremely beautiful girl sitting by Davao flight, but she was hemmed in by other passengers.

Waist length hair, mid 20's. Great body wrapped in tight blue jeans, light white top.

Made mental note to visit Davao.

Noticed several other guys checking her out.

However when the Davao flight was called she got up and moved to the crowd waiting for the Cebu flight.

Unfortunately she was still blocked by other passengers.

But then the usual PA announcement, 'sorry due to blah blah the flight to Cebu has been delayed'.

Picked up bags and literally squeezed my way through people, over people until I managed to make it next to the stunner and said something genius, like. 'Is the Flight delayed? '

And that was it. Turned out she works in a call centre and she was her way to Cebu for a wedding.

A new world record for me as I'the only been in the country 15 minutes.

Maybe the result of the motivational statement on the toilet wall so possibly I should refute earlier statement.

The flight was delayed for an hour but it seemed like 10 seconds as we were getting along great.

She apologised for not being able to catch up in Cebu as she was just there for one night. But when I'm back in Manila to call.

Made mental note, return to Manila early.

After a bumpy flight arrived in Cebu to find a very long queue at the top of the part by the casino. Only one taxi there and maybe 60 people. Heavy rain.

So kept on going to the very first drop off point and walked directly to the first taxi dropping people off. He pointed at the huge queue and the parking guard guy, so offered him 500 pesos to take me to the Marriott.

Sure no problem.

The Filipino lady getting out of the taxi said in a big loud voice, 'Yes Sir thats how the Philippines works! '

Had a few DIA girls numbers generated all in about 48 hours so sent out the messages.

First girl replied, 'great but can I bring a friend. '

One of my best ever Cebu girls wasn't the DIA girl but the friend so I replied, Sure.

Next day, wandered over to Ayalla, the colliseum of Cebu, and totally suprised to get a text from the girl saying we're here. On time. Shock. Horror.

Agreed to meet outside Figaro but couldn't see 2 girls, just some guy from behind and a girl.

Walked over when I realised it was the girl, and she said, 'Hi this is my Dad. '

Got to say this was a first for me.

Lesson learn't, always ensure the friend is a girl.

But she was cute so took them inside and let them loose on the menu. Nearly always they choose the biggest chocolate type cake / cheesecake.

Got talking. Dad turned out to be a truly good guy. He didn't have a job, but made wooden boats to sell. For each boat he received about 70 pesos and he could at best make 2 to 3 boats a day.

I'the just spent 900 pesos on cheesecake / coffees etc.

I then asked about the family and his reply was he had 3 daughters until he got lucky and had a son.

He said this in front of the daughter, who just accepted it as this is how things are.

He was quite up front about wanting to marry his daughters off to foreigners and asked if I was looking to marry.

Had to reply unfortunately not, but he still suggested I should get to know his daughter, take her out a few times.

In all this time the girl had said about 3 words so decided against it.

Met a couple of other DIA girls, one a total mall hustler, another quite nice but not really me.

DIA is hit and miss. It's great if you've got time but if you're just in Cebu a few days its probably not the most productive use of time.

The mall hustler girls have got DIA figured. Someone should catalogue the categories or actually colour code the girls.

From the hard call mall pro who uses the mall daily as her office, maybe whacking several guys a day, through to irregular mall girl who just uses it occasionally to meet guys for bill payments then my favourite category the girl who doesn't know she's a 'mall girl' and just needs a bit of charm.

Did get lucky with a last category of mall girl who pimped her friend, who was both hot and fun and for me finding girls that are fun to be with is key to it.

Anyhow back to Manila and texted the beauty from the airport.

After a couple of false starts we organised to go out to dinner at Greenbelt and I had her get a taxi to the Shangri La.

Another hotel that seems to get worse each time I stay there almost degrading before my eyes.

Oops remember airport slogan.

She arrives wearing a tight red dress and looking as good as first appearance.

During dinner learn't about the life of call centre workers, working usually all night, an upside down life. She was selling insurance or something in America and I thought about some guy in a small American town getting a call from this girl and having no idea that she looked like a fantasy girl from a magazine.

The call centre people often date each other but in her words she didn't work with anyone worth dating.

She had very pale skin which doesn't make any difference to me but to Filipinos this made her look Hi.so and she said some Filipinos assumed she was a snob or were too scared to approach her because of this.

She said, most men stared at her, but few if any approached. I was the first foreigner to ever try.

We drank quite a lot of wine then basically long story short, had 3 days of non stop sex.

Reminded me of why Filipino girls are great, that hint of Latin giving them a real true sex drive, unequalled, I believe in Asia.

She really was great, with one handicap, she kept saying 'I think I've found the one. '

She's a great girl and would make someone a great wife.

I'll keep in touch with her.

Even though I've told her I'll never be the one.

At no time did she ask for money, need me to buy her a phone, or similar.

But I did leave her with a sizeable donation given as taxi money when she left.

All in a good Philippines experience with the most important lesson being, even girls who look unapproachable. Approach them.

Back to departure, gathered my expectations and flew off to Thailand.

[QUOTE=Parnellcat; 1233871]Recently pre Christmas in Manila for work so threw in a few days in Cebu for good measure. Arrived International airport and after reading the motivational platitudes at the airport toilet, walked over to domestic. Personally I think they should change the toilet slogans to something like 'Foreigners, Please leave your expectations here at the airport and collect on departure. Obviously with the exception of girls and beaches. If you follow that simple advice possible problems and annoyances in the Philippines will be significantly reduced. [SNIP]

All in a good Philippines experience with the most important lesson being, even girls who look unapproachable. Approach them. Back to departure, gathered my expectations and flew off to Thailand.[/QUOTE]Nice report but did you post it from an IPhone or Ipad? Horribly spaced and takes up half a page. Even worse some members who will quote your post will be too lazy to use a simple cut and paste or backspace technology to edit and [SNIP]. But I digress.

When I read your post the first time I thought you had landed in Cebu since this is the Cebu thread. You never specified what city or airport you landed at. I was confused when you mentioned you were in Manila already 'pre-Christmas' and then you arrived International airport? When you posted you saw a girl waiting in the domestic terminal for a flight you lost me. I thought you had arrived in Cebu on an International flight and then walked over to the domestic arrivals since that's where the taxi line is located. Only after reading further did I figure out what the heck you just posted.

OK so when arriving at NAIA there are two airport washrooms, both located on either end of the customs and baggage claim level under the stairs on opposite sides of the terminal. I do not remember ever seeing any 'motivational platitudes' as you call it posted there. Maybe I missed something or maybe it was recently installed. What exactly does this sign say? Curious.

Cebu is not a city where the sex scene is in your face or on display 24-7. It's much more subtle at times and is more known for providing good online dating GFE company. You mentioned you made a handful of DIA contacts before your visit. Seems you never fully explored or put in the time necessary to come up with quality girls to meet. You must be willing to pick up alot of rocks before you can hold a true diamond in your hands.

I think your experience in other SEA Countries served you well when you visited the Philippines. You stayed calm and you went with the flow. No need to get upset about fish and chips unless the five second rule was is in play LOL. You approached the girl in NAIA and things worked out for you. However I would advise caution. It's best to wait and watch who she is with to make sure she is really available. I watched many a foreigner say Hi to a girl when her husband or BF was nearby and that can cause a few moments of 'difficulty' for the foreigner.

Following the forum advice whenever a girl asks to bring a cousin or bring a sister I usually politely ask if the third wheel will pay their own way. Usually this gets them off my back. On Wednesday night I was setup. Tagged lady in a taxi for an hour to see me and then ten minutes out, suddenly says she has her cousin with her and can thy join our little party. Prior to this point we were straight to foyer coffee bar and then hotel room. Bugger. I felt even worse when I met the cousin and couldn't work out if it was a boy, a girl or what. SHe walked like a girl, talked like a girl but had an adam's apple and whiskers. Anyway, the night went on, I paid coffee for three, taxis to Croon, dinner for three and then eventually said that was enough, the cousin goes or you go as well. Anyway the night ended and I invited the original Tagged hottie to come back the next night. She herself was quite hot, nice tagged photos, slim, nice shoes, high, cute.

So, the reason for the report is that I didn't follow the forum advice and got setup. Grr, anyway, I learned my lesson.

In the hotel room the following night the hottie couldn't resist asking me what I thought of her cousin. And of course, the cousin was a gay.

The rest of the night and morning went to plan. Two of the nicest headjobs I've had in a while. On my current average I'm running that the majority of philippine women like cum in mouth. I'll keep a tally as I go ahead. Although the result bathroom gag reflex isn't always so romantic. Having them remove their retainers before oral is also a turnon and reassures me of their university student age.

Tonight's plan is a carry over from more of the forum advice. (always approach the otherwise unapproachables) On my last trip I asked the airport check-in agent for her phone number. Sure enough, about 30 minutes later while I was waiting in the lounge a palm sized piece of paper with her name and number came floating my way. I fantasized that if I was successful I'd have a lifetime supply of free upgrades when leaving Cebu. That part hasn't turned out as she has resigned from the airport job.

I've moved to the Waterfront Casino for a change of scene. It is certainly not as convenient for the sport as the Marriott. I'll write more of that in the Cebu Hotels thread.

Happy punting.

AJ

[QUOTE=Parnellcat; 1233871] She had very pale skin which doesn't make any difference to me but to Filipinos this made her look Hi. So and she said some Filipinos assumed she was a snob or were too scared to approach her because of this.

She said, most men stared at her, but few if any approached. I was the first foreigner to ever try.

We drank quite a lot of wine then basically long story short, had 3 days of non stop sex.

Reminded me of why Filipino girls are great, that hint of Latin giving them a real true sex drive, unequalled, I believe in Asia.

At no time did she ask for money, need me to buy her a phone, or similar.

But I did leave her with a sizable donation given as taxi money when she left.

All in a good Philippines experience with the most important lesson being, even girls who look unapproachable. Approach them.

Back to departure, gathered my expectations and flew off to Thailand.[/QUOTE]Parnellcat,

More power to you. I ought to have these words tattooed onto my chest to inspire me.

I think the greatest challenge for the male traveler in the PI is the fact that THE RULES HAVE CHANGED. Many times I've caught myself falling into old habits, seeing Filipina women through American eyes ("She's too good looking / young / thin / hot to ever take an interest in me.").

Thanks for the reminder.

This is an interesting story.

Different forum members have given different advice on allowing the friend / cousin. I can understand the "no friend" policy if you've already worked out a "straight to the bed" arrangment with the gal, but I've had some excellent results by being flexible. I'm not sure why you are calling it a "setup".

At some point did you ask your target for some alone time on that first night? She gave it up on the second night, so my thinking is she needed the "friend" to vet you. It sounds like you were reasonable with the ladyboy and you probably have him / her to thak for the good service the next night.

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1234188]Following the forum advice whenever a girl asks to bring a cousin or bring a sister I usually politely ask if the third wheel will pay their own way. Usually this gets them off my back. On Wednesday night I was setup. Tagged lady in a taxi for an hour to see me and then ten minutes out, suddenly says she has her cousin with her and can thy join our little party. Prior to this point we were straight to foyer coffee bar and then hotel room. Bugger. I felt even worse when I met the cousin and couldn't work out if it was a boy, a girl or what. SHe walked like a girl, talked like a girl but had an adam's apple and whiskers. Anyway, the night went on, I paid coffee for three, taxis to Croon, dinner for three and then eventually said that was enough, the cousin goes or you go as well. Anyway the night ended and I invited the original Tagged hottie to come back the next night.

SNIP.

AJ[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man; 1234486]This is an interesting story.

Different forum members have given different advice on allowing the friend / cousin. I can understand the "no friend" policy if you've already worked out a "straight to the bed" arrangment with the gal, but I've had some excellent results by being flexible. I'm not sure why you are calling it a "setup".

At some point did you ask your target for some alone time on that first night? She gave it up on the second night, so my thinking is she needed the "friend" to vet you. It sounds like you were reasonable with the ladyboy and you probably have him / her to thak for the good service the next night.[/QUOTE]Thanks XMan, you are once again a voice of reason.

The 'date' girls v the WL are certainly a little more time consuming but also good company.

My airline check-in girl last night was good company. SHe took me to Park Mall, she likes drinking beer, listening to live bands and then back to the hotel.

Now, this afternoon, I'm doing a ground hog day and going back to my university student of day 1.

I love this sport.

Ditto, Sarge. To me, it is the best place on earth! I am going to retire there in a few years but for now I just go 2X a year to scope it out. I love that they speak English in the PI and the girls are so damn lovable and available. Whenever I see a beautiful 20-something in the USA who snubs me I just think of her Asian counterpart who I will be banging sometime soon! This is what motivates me! My productivity and performance at work is at an all-time high. Career best effort. And the reaon is all that great pussy in Asia just waiting to be plucked!

[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1234465]Parnellcat,

More power to you. I ought to have these words tattooed onto my chest to inspire me.

I think the greatest challenge for the male traveler in the PI is the fact that THE RULES HAVE CHANGED. Many times I've caught myself falling into old habits, seeing Filipina women through American eyes ("She's too good looking / young / thin / hot to ever take an interest in me.").

Thanks for the reminder.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups;1234709]Whenever I see a beautiful 20-something in the USA who snubs me I just think of her Asian counterpart who I will be banging sometime soon![/QUOTE]Oddly, when I'm at home, I don't go about sex the same way as when overseas. Here, I have a list of playmates in my phone. I rarely bust out looking for new blood. I'm quite content seeing the same girls on an irregular basis for booty call here. They are older, not like the girls I get in SE asia. They are all 30-60 in age. As long as they are fine with the booty call (only) , I'm fine with them. I never get snubbed by beautiful young girls because I normally don't bother with them. My booty calls are never for money, just former gf's.

However, I do keep two college girls on the dole when I'm in the mood for youth. One is a cute young spinner, one is more plain-jane (nice body, plain face). Oddly they have not become infected with high price requests, and they work for just a bit more than asian girls go for. One day I asked the plain-jane if she was OK to the money agreement. Her reply: "Hey, this is a month's worth of gas in my car. I'm good."

I think there is a common misperception, both in the west and in pinas, that we are traveling there for pussy only. Not necessarily so. I get my share of punani here, and mostly for free. One doesn't need to travel to get laid, you can get it free or pay for it at home. I like to travel, to experience other things and places and people I don't normally see. The fact that pilipines is a 'wild-west' in many ways makes it attractive.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1234768]Oddly, when I'm at home, I don't go about sex the same way as when overseas. Here, I have a list of playmates in my phone. I rarely bust out looking for new blood. I'm quite content seeing the same girls on an irregular basis for booty call here. They are older, not like the girls I get in SE asia. They are all 30-60 in age. As long as they are fine with the booty call (only) , I'm fine with them. I never get snubbed by beautiful young girls because I normally don't bother with them. My booty calls are never for money, just former gf's.

However, I do keep two college girls on the dole when I'm in the mood for youth. One is a cute young spinner, one is more plain-jane (nice body, plain face). Oddly they have not become infected with high price requests, and they work for just a bit more than asian girls go for. One day I asked the plain-jane if she was OK to the money agreement. Her reply: "Hey, this is a month's worth of gas in my car. I'm good."

I think there is a common misperception, both in the west and in pinas, that we are traveling there for pussy only. Not necessarily so. I get my share of punani here, and mostly for free. One doesn't need to travel to get laid, you can get it free or pay for it at home. I like to travel, to experience other things and places and people I don't normally see. The fact that pilipines is a 'wild-west' in many ways makes it attractive.[/QUOTE]Well, it is not easy to find young fuckfriends if you are old in USA. There are plenty of young guys there for them. However once in a while you find some girl who likes older men. But you need to be discreet. She usually does not want to be seen with you in public except at casinoes, good restaurents. Sometimes when they go out with their friends and get drunk will drop in for the booty call unannounced. There is always a age barrier in public perception in western countries. It is also there in rest of the world but because of the poverty it is often overlooked.

As for being a sex tourist, once you are outside your home base you are free and do not have the constraints. Free to do whatever you want as to being with girls who look agewise daughters or granddaughters in some cases.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1234784]Well, it is not easy to find young fuckfriends if you are old in USA. There are plenty of young guys there for them. However once in a while you find some girl who likes older men. But you need to be discreet. She usually does not want to be seen with you in public except at casinoes, good restaurents. Sometimes when they go out with their friends and get drunk will drop in for the booty call unannounced. There is always a age barrier in public perception in western countries. It is also there in rest of the world but because of the poverty it is often overlooked.

As for being a sex tourist, once you are outside your home base you are free and do not have the constraints. Free to do whatever you want as to being with girls who look age wise daughters or granddaughters in some cases.[/QUOTE]I once read that there is a socially acceptable age gap in the West whereby the female needs to be at least 50 percent of the males age + 7 years. So that it acceptable for a 22 year old guy to go out with a 18 year old girl, a 50 year old to go out with a 32 year old woman and a 60 year old a 37 year old. It always struck me that this rule seems about right in the West. Unless of course you are a major rock star or billionaire. Beyond that gap there is definitely a "raised eyebrows factor". Interestingly I think the same sort of rule holds within the Phils for Phil guy and Phil girl relationships. Fortunately it has been acceptable within the Phils to ignore this social rule for Foreigner. Phil girl relationships. That's changing of course as the economy develops (eg the expansion of call centre jobs for young female graduates) , just as it has changed very rapidly in places such as China. For those at the bottom of the economic heap in Phils the old mantra of "age is just a number" is still chanted, but whereas 3 years ago on DIA 18-80 age range was as common as "accept me for who I am" the better looking / more educated, nulliparas who are not just looking to score some short term cash are definitely lowering their maximum ages range.

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1235052]. .For those at the bottom of the economic heap in Phils the old mantra of "age is just a number" is still chanted, but whereas 3 years ago on DIA 18-80 age range was as common as "accept me for who I am" the better looking / more educated, nulliparas who are not just looking to score some short term cash are definitely lowering their maximum ages range.[/QUOTE]I agree with GL on this.

Within the last 6 months I have noticed that the better educated filipinas with the sensible profiles are much more specific about their required age range, and it is certainly not the "one age fits all" 18 to 80 that the mindless girls use.

These better educated ones have now lowered their required upper age range, and it often stops at 40 or 45.

However, they certainly are specific about "no filipinos", and especially not young filipinos.

From what I am told, there are many young pinoy guys on DIA hitting on the older women, so I guess there are some women who want that, and others who rather vehemently do not.

As has been said here many times, feel free to take no notice of what women say in their profiles and send them a message anyway even if your intentions do not match with their requirements. In my experience, many women actually forget what is in their profile anyway, especially if they didn't write it or just cut and pasted it from another profile.

Yes I have noticed this and commented on it previously. Many Philippine girls are following the example of the girls in Indonesia and Thailand. In those countries it is almost impossible to find a young non-lady boy who puts "18-80". I think this is a function of younger guys getting on DIA. If no younger guys were writing the girls, they wouldn't be so picky.

[QUOTE=David_33;1235494]Yes I have noticed this and commented on it previously. Many Philippine girls are following the example of the girls in Indonesia and Thailand. In those countries it is almost impossible to find a young non-lady boy who puts "18-80". I think this is a function of younger guys getting on DIA. If no younger guys were writing the girls, they wouldn't be so picky.[/QUOTE]What I find amusing is the number of posters on those sites who are specific about a younger age range and yet blithely contact me, regardless of the fact my profile clearly shows an age 20 years beyond their own specified 'due date'. And no, the majority are not hustlers. I agree whole-heartedly with Red Kilt. Ignore what's on the profiles.

My Cebu visit has come to a close. Over the week that I was in town I managed to bed five ladies with a variety of experiences. When I say experiences I am referring to the type of lady as much as the bedroom experience. Four of my ladies were sourced from Tagged. My Tagged list still has 10 backup names and numbers that I just never got around to calling.

I have detailed four of the experiences in an earlier post and will just discuss my airport girl. This lady I met by random when I was checking in to depart from my last visit (Oct 2011). I had kept in intermittent contact with her over those couple of months. When in Cebu we caught up for a coffee at Waterfront Casino and then headed out to Ayala for some dinner. She was keeping her distance although was taking the centre seat in the taxi.

After dinner at Ayala we went upstairs and had a beer at Yellow Taxi whicih I didn't even thing sold beer. This did give us a goof view of the live entertainment playing on a stage in the centre of the Terraces. Reasonable music, beers and good company, whom could ask for more.

Ding Ding, goes my phone, it's a text from my random pickup girl from two nights earlier."Hi, I'm at Ayala watching some live music, why don't you come and join me?" Well that surely made me shit myself, all I needed was a confrontation. I quickly encourage a beer sculling and we exited Ayala as soon as possible. Ms Random Pickup thought I was at my hotel tired in bed.

We headed to Park Mall. Now that was a great entertainment venue. We tried a couple of bars, both with live music. At one venue we order a bucket of beers and food for a total cost of P330. Pretty good value me thinks.

Eventually my airline lady and I end up back at the hotel, in bed and with a little bit of encouragement, she was beautiful. I think she was quite genuine in only expecting to turn up for coffee and not expecting to be in bed. Once she had made the mental decision to enjoy herself, she certainly did. We are keeping in contact for future visits.

For the final two nights, I went back to one of my earlier dates, based solely on her ability for CIM. She didn't disappoint and I have a lovely image of cum on her face. BUT going back for the second time does have dangers. She was certainly much more comfortable that she was onto a good thing. I enjoy getting pampered, dried after my shower, getting my 'smalls' hand washed. I ended up asking her to leave earlier than we had planned for her to stay. I just needed the personal room and was a little concerned with her interest in my personal affairs. I sent her home with P2k for taxi and clothes. As a 22yo uni student she is trying to keep in contact.

For my return trip later this year, I'll just be satisfying myself with the abundant supply of P4P at Ayala and the clubs. A lot less 'overhead' before and during the visit.

See you guys when I'm next in town.

AJ

I like to try to find the gem in the street walker scene. Looking for new areas. I know they are out there. These are the areas I know of. 1. Mango square usually around dusk they start coming out. But there are lots ladyboys around here. 2. Colon all over down here but have not seen many gems of late, around the sogo behind the street where mcsherrys is. Further up that street on the corner across from jolliebee is the main corner at night, right in front of jollibee that whole streett during the day. After jollebes closes less girls on that corner. I consider all these parts of colon 1 area, since it's all pretty much about 2 blocks. 3. Mcdonalds area in colon, basically the street that goes to the emall, there are a bunch of little dive hotels. Mostly ugly bettys I have seen. 4. Port road downtown near the port area, have not been down here yet but heard there are more gems than colon. 5. Around the arena club. I know there are other hot spots out there.

Please share if you know of any.

So having RTFF, I've come to the conclusion that Cebu is a very fun place to monger, if time is a plenty or you can get on to DIA. Unfortunately, I have not much time, DIA is a no-go due to home situation and so, I'm stuck with only two real options. And Manila, sadly, staying in Ortigas for one night, with most likely no chances there either.

My visit to Cebu is going to be four nights, plenty one might say. But I'm working US hours and staying at the Waterfront with my US colleagues. Grumble, grumble, grumble.

It seems like I could go for one of the overpriced hookers in the lobby. Which is a risk because of work colleagues. However, if I time it right, there seems to be a secret basement of other hookers. And perhaps a chance of a 10am fully nude oil massage. I'm wondering if anyone has chanced their hand at these options and what sort of prices did they see? Was the service good? My previous experiences with Pinoys has been lacklustre, so not sold on this option.

The other option is to visit Finland or Wild Orchid massage when the colleagues are busy. Does anyone have a price for those places and will I get my brains fucked out by a dirty little fuck machine? Damage?

THanks guys. Promise to write up.

Oi Sinulog!

To everyone in Cebu that will attend the parade and festivities today have a safe and happy Sinulog!

Just friendly reminders, Tanduay is not a condiment, garbage bags can be turned into a rain jacket with a few modifications, the line you waited in for 30mins was not the line to the CR but the line for henna, stay away from the meat on a stick unless you like azkal, accepting sexual advances from a woman when your beer goggles are in full effect not recommended.

OoooHHHHoooohhhhhh Sinulooooog! :D

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1238212]I think too many posters here post crap they read , not what really goes on.[/QUOTE]Amen to that Frenzy. It is much more enjoyable to read about [B]experiences[/B] had by guys and then we can draw our own conclusions from that.

As has been said many times before, after 14 years of regular visits to Cebu, I have never experienced any extortion, threat or mishap, otherwise I would have reported it. I am inclined to think think that these things might happen more in AC than Cebu (or Manila) simply because of the nature of AC (Fields and Perimeter anyway).

My [B]experience[/B] with the text from the alleged hubby / boyfriend was reported on the Chat thread as an actual [B]experience[/B] to assist guys to draw whatever conclusion they like to apply in future to their own experiences.

[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1239666]I say hit Juliana's around midnight. You won't find yourself having wasted a thousand pesos or so on ladies' drinks, and end up broke and alone.

You may just wind up seeing the very women you were looking to barfine earlier in the evening.

As one Australian friend of mine said when asked to purchase a ladies' drink: "Ladies' drink"? Where are the ladies? They're nothing but a bunch of tarts. Get me a lady and I'll buy her a ladies' drink."[/QUOTE]Haha, I deserved that feedback. By that Sunday night I was totally shagged. I should have mentioned I'd also ran in the Cebu marathon that morning up since 2:30am with a Cebuana gf giving me a HJ for good luck. In the week that I had been in town hadn't gotten to visit any Mango bars so it was a last ditch effort. My days start early as I am working on Sydney time ie work starts at 5:30am Cebu time.

[QUOTE=X Man;1239851]The freshest thing about Mavs was MM. Wow.[/QUOTE]Ohhhh yes. I was there last year while it was still called SD. I saw MM up there "dancing" as I walked in, and knew instantly that I had to have her. I was first hijacked by a girl I "knew" from an earlier visit, played some pool with her, and managed to ease MM into the equation. Turns out they were friends, so no problem. I took them both back to my hotel, spent most of the time with my tool inside MM's body, just like I wanted. She was a bit shy with the other girl there, but once she hid in the bathroom, MM loosened up considerably and proved to be a great fuck, with realistic sound effects too! She is a hot little package with a perfect set of breasts, not huge, but just right.

Other than that, there wasn't much going on there, and I had the place all to myself. The girls were complaining about lack of business.

[QUOTE=X Man;1239851]The freshest thing about Mavs was MM. Wow.[/QUOTE]You got that right. I was there last year while it was still called SD. I saw MM up there "dancing" as I walked in, and knew instantly that I had to have her. I was first hijacked by a girl I "knew" from an earlier visit, played some pool with her, and managed to ease MM into the equation. Turns out they were friends, so no problem. I took them both back to my hotel, spent most of the time with my tool inside MM's body, just like I wanted. She was a bit shy with the other girl there, but once she hid in the bathroom, MM loosened up considerably and proved to be a great fuck, with realistic sound effects too! She is a hot little package with a perfect set of breasts, not huge, but just right.

Other than that, there wasn't much going on there, and I had the place all to myself. The girls were complaining about lack of business.

I was deliberately being a little vague, but after your post Mavs will have a queue outside with guys asking for Ms. Mm. Ha, ha, there won't be anything left of the poor girl. Well, since the cat is out of the bag, she pressured me to take her friend. So I guess she's already changed. X.

[QUOTE=Quarry; 1239923]You got that right. I was there last year while it was still called SD. I saw MM up there "dancing" as I walked in, and knew instantly that I had to have her. I was first hijacked by a girl I "knew" from an earlier visit, played some pool with her, and managed to ease MM into the equation. Turns out they were friends, so no problem. I took them both back to my hotel, spent most of the time with my tool inside MM's body, just like I wanted. She was a bit shy with the other girl there, but once she hid in the bathroom, MM loosened up considerably and proved to be a great fuck, with realistic sound effects too! She is a hot little package with a perfect set of breasts, not huge, but just right.

Other than that, there wasn't much going on there, and I had the place all to myself. The girls were complaining about lack of business.[/QUOTE]

White Castle KTV in Lapu-Lapu was raided by police and anti [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] task force last Friday. Six employees of the Korean owned bar have been charged. Sounds like they refused to pay the right people and as a result the Korean owners and managers are in jail.

Of particular interest is a comment half way down the report,"At least one adult online forum identifies the White Castle KTV Bar, which is located in Barangay Pusok, as a place to pick up girls."

That comment serves as a warning. This is an open forum and many locals and lurkers read these pages. Has anyone bothered to take a look at the 'who's online' tab? If there are 100 forum members online at one time, there are four or five times that number of lurker 'guests'.

If you go to the last section of the report there is a comment area and judging from the comments the forum in question is not ISG. ISG has a zero tolerance level when it comes to posting under 18 info and rightfully so. Hopefully this will enlighten and highlight why many members take the extra time to crop pics, blur faces and change names.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/01/21/ktv-charged-trafficking-43-rescued-201758[/url]

I sent a couple of my girls out to get pizza from Pizza Hut Fuente circle last evening (having invited a couple of new girls to come for a swim and fuck)

One of them came back a bit later after meeting another guy for a drink. By the time she came back an hour later a guy had been shot dead just outside Pizza Hut.

I was in Cebu 4 days during Christmas time. I stayed one night at Cebu Century Hotel downtown

And 3 days at Diplomat Hotel uptown. The Cebu Century is a really honorable hotel with

Recently renovated large rooms. Unexptected comfort for such a price 850PHP / night.

I can confirm outside of Cebu Century there are some pimps (3) offering girls (a service

That I didn't use) , but about FL / SW, sorry but there is nothing to talk about.

One skinny woman with half teeth missing, smiling you from the other side of the road,

It doesn't allow me to classify the area as a hot area whatsoever. I wandered around

Evening and night time, I did not see nothing.

Many reports about this area talk about "plenty of.", now they all seems kind of

Fantasy to me, sorry. Maybe I am blind.

The Diplomat Hotel is honorable too, but I didn't feel comfortable there. Yes, the hotel

Is fine, clean and modern, but I always had a feeling of not being welcome, a feeling

That the Diplomat share with most of the other places I've been in the Philippines, even

Angeles! (see report). The restaurant service sucks.

I wandered around the nearby Robinson Mall (as well as many other malls in the

Philippines, like SM in Angeles and Cebu, SM and Robinson in Manila, but I've never

Never never seen any FL or girls looking for. Never, nowhere.

It is not true that on Osmena circle and around there are FL. One day, one girl get to

Me on the stairs the way in Robinson mall. She asked me if I wanted a girl. One girl. One.

I've been 2 nights to the girlie bar on Mango ave, namely the red lips and Planet X.

In the red lips none didn't care about me, as well as to the other guys (there were not

Many people, a dozen more or less). Except 2 korean boys, the girls didn't care about

Anyone. One girl dancing with a bored face and all the others packed in a corner jggling

With smartphones. When I told to the bartender that girls were all hidden, she just

Notch her shoulder. That was the red lips. I left after while and I didn't go back. At

Planet X the girl were more friendly (also because I was the only customer) , some also

Doable but yet I didn't barfine any. Kind of feeling that the whole thing was a scam,

Like what has become Angeles.

Had 3 DIA contacts. 2 no show and 1 three hours late and ("have to go now").

My experience in Cebu was overall zero.

I understand reading this report one could think that I am a kind of monster even the

Ugliest woman in the most desperate situation will never touch, but I am normal man 48

Caucasian white, healthy and neutral look. Since now I've never had problem with P4P, as

My previous reports prove.

So, what happens in Cebu? Don't know, but for sure do not happens sex.

[QUOTE=Brenno;1241849]So, what happens in Cebu? Don't know, but for sure do not happens sex.[/QUOTE]Not sure what was happening in your hotel. But surely you saw your share of middle-aged western males going to their room with young 20 year old cuties?

What about the guys at malls walking around with cuties?

And the girls at Planet X, would have been happy to join you. Sex does pay.

Can't wait to get back there.

[QUOTE=Brenno;1241849]My experience in Cebu was overall zero.[/QUOTE]

Maybe Cebu was quiet because it was Christmas time.

When I was there last October, the street scene near Colon / Pelarez and around Mango Square at night was very active. There's no way I could walk through the area without a few solicitations.

My experience with the malls, like yours, was equally dead. Maybe I was in the wrong part of Ayala Mall. People keep talking about the "terraces" there. I don't recall any terraces. Then again, I didn't exactly walk through the entire mall either.

I'm surprised your flake rate with online girls was so high. Nevertheless, my rule is, multiply the days you'd be in-town by 2 and that's how many girls you should have tried to meet. Since you were there for 4 days, you should have lined up 8 girls (to account for flakers, uglies, non-chemistry, she doesn't like you, or other reasons).

My flake rate has been pretty low (10-15%). Then again, I avoid top tier girls (cute ones under 23 years old).

I'm pretty sure which online prospect would eventually show up. When you offer to meet, those who would show would reply with enthusiasm. Some will volunteer their numbers. Others will say "it will be my pleasure to meet you in personal" or "I'm so excited to meet you". Others will probe for your arrival date and where you'd be staying.

Those likeliest to flake will say something drab like "sure, why not" when you ask to meet. That's a nice way of saying "fuck off, loser". Those are the girls I stop corresponding immediately. Doesn't matter how cute she is. My time there is too short to waste on convincing someone to show up.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1240609]Of particular interest is a comment half way down the report,"At least one adult online forum identifies the White Castle KTV Bar, which is located in Barangay Pusok, as a place to pick up girls."[/QUOTE]It was more then likely a Korean fourm since most of the customers are Korean and the like. A few years back I did mention the place after I visited but have not seen anything about this KTV on ISG since.

Yes sounds like they missed their payments. Being in that business, I'm sure they took every measure to make sure all their employees were of legal age. Dental exams are not very accurate and can be off by as many as two years!

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1241033]One of them came back a bit later after meeting another guy for a drink. By the time she came back an hour later a guy had been shot dead just outside Pizza Hut.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately shite happens! During Sinulog, a group of Italian touristas were being robbed at gunpoint and one of them put up a fight. He did not live to tell the tale. But Cebu still has a low murder rate per capita.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1242012]My experience with the malls, like yours, was equally dead. Maybe I was in the wrong part of Ayala Mall. People keep talking about the "terraces" there. I don't recall any terraces. Then again, I didn't exactly walk through the entire mall either.[/QUOTE]The Ayala Terraces area is that outside courtyard lined by restaurants. Sitting around the large tree in the middle on one of the benches by yourself is a good place to start. Others have mentioned sitting at any of the cafes at an outside table by yourself. Also the area around the outside elavators seems to be poplar for eye contact.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1240426]A rookie knows little about filipina jealousy and how to deal with tampo situations and is not familiar with some of the childish behavior, and if he gets himself involved with a young socialite woman do you really see it working out? I don't. If a girl feels rightly or wrongly that she has been scorned and lied to and is in tears, what rich well connected father wouldn't ease her pain and make a few calls to send the guy packing. I am not saying that's what will happen, just something for the guy to think about.[/QUOTE]Yes you are probably right Stroker Ace88. As an advice to a first time visitor to any culture, it is probably wise to suggest not to target the pickiest ones in a specific society. It is much easier to fail and if you bend the truth to actually do get Miss Hilton in to bed, you must be prepared to handle a possibly stronger reaction to the revelation of the truth, than you would get from a desperate squatter girl.

If you run into them. Fine, but I see no direct point in targeting "upper class / rich girls" specifically, unless one either has a struggling ego that needs it, or the naive idea to benefit from these relations financially. An important addition to the claim I often do that "there are all types of people everywhere", is that the concentration of a specific trait do vary quite a lot. The normal distribution slides on the X axis so to speak. Many of these princesses are just as childish and shallow as any other pinay, but prideful, smug and vain. Obnoxious to listen to for more than a few minutes and quite an explosive mix if you light the fuse. Intelligence does not correlate with the size of daddy's wallet, so if that is the objective it is better to focus on student groups or specific professions. Once again and as you suggest Stroker Ace88, there is no real point in targeting upper class / rich girls IMHO.

I know it is a generalization but in my experience IT students often tend to be sharp. This education cost a little bit more so many of these girls are from families that are not totally poor. Teacher (students) quite often also offers some sort of intelligent conversation after sex, but many of these girls are dirt poor it seems. The H&R students are often homely and want to cook after sex. Simple and caring girls as far as I experienced. The nurses I had where from all over society and all where, without exception, horny caretakers that had a relaxed approach to sex and bodies.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1240391]I noted that probably 98% of passers-by dragged their feet, whether they were plastic slippers (thongs / flip flops) , rubber shoes (sneakers) and especially that variety of heeled shoe that girls wear by inserting the toe into the front section and the back portion flaps free and makes a clickety-clack sound.[/QUOTE]LOL, yes it can get on my nerves as well sometimes. According to wikipedia,"synesthetic experiences can have measurable behavioral consequences", and I wonder if my synapses aren't tuned into the sound of high heel shoes not being properly walked in. When Farfalas opened in Davao the girls where all dressed in rather stylish suits with semi high heels. Unfortunately Selina (or whatever her name is) forgot to instruct the girls to lift their feet. Especially one girl would sort of slide around in the restaurant with slightly bent knees and just small lifts, making an annoying schwish sound followed by a clonk when the heel hit the floor. This girl never stood still and she produced a hypnotic schwish klonk schwish klonk schwish klonk, all night through starters, dinner and desert. .

B.

I will soon be in the Philippines!

Too difficult to go into everything as to reason why etc but I will only be in Cebu from time to time during the day. I will be arriving by ship about 7am and leaving that same evening about 7pm.

I have heard of a few short time hotels I could use like the Sogo and one that has themed rooms. I am just wondering the best place to pick up a decent enough girl. Not looking for show stoppers just a decent one- I am sure you know what I mean. Only for about 2 to 3 hours.

Any ideas of the best place to wander around to pick one up.

A few years back I was walking around near some cinema- cannot remember exactly where but in the dwontown area. I got a nice girl about 23 and she was accompanied with an older woman (not in the room!) and went to a very small hotel which I recall years ago was a massage place. Paid 200 pesos for room and gave girl 500 pesos. Was a bit put off finding out she had bad stretch marks!

Anyone got any suggestions etc.

Many thanks!

Well the old Silver dollar bar on Funtes circle. I do not know the new name. Opens at 12 am. Serves lunch, And you know sogo and queensland. The girls will know where to tell the taxis. 1800 peso fine. 350pesp for 3 hours qeensland I belive. I would take two in htat short a time and keep them working. Make sure they know it is 3 hours and not one pop. Same price for lt. They will be happy. Give them taxis fare back to Silver dollar and flag down a cab and be on your way.

Based on your design that is what I would do. Ask what the new name of the silver dollar is. Our goggle it and the place will come up on 20 sites for location purposes. Get to Robinson Mall next door at 10 am. Window shop there for something to do. Then hit silver dollar if nothing is bought before hand. RED

Things I do during the day in cebu.

It is actually nice to read real reports and information for a change. Once people start reporting and we quit talking about bs stuff, we actually gert some great information on here!

The old silver dollar is called the Maverick I have not been there yet but will be trying it in April when I arrive. I have been to the silver dollar many times and it was where I bar fined my first girl in cebu.

During the day this is what I spend some time doing.

1. Right next to the sogo downtown there is a massage parlor to the right, green sign and you have to go up the stairs.

Full body 1 hour massage is I think is 110 pesos, under $3 us dollars, they never offered extra service and I never tried. I have had many massages there.

2. I get a pedicure, manicure, hair cut at least once a week 50 pesos each on average.

3. Robinson Mall. It caught on fire the day I arrived last time, but this was going to be where I was going to spend some quality time picking up girls, there are freelancers here during the day being so close to mango. I think you might have luck on the upper levels waiting for foreigners to come accross on the footbridge. I have not had much luck at ayala during the day, I think early evenings later in the week and saturdays are the best times. I have picked up women at ayala but not as many as I should of for how much time I have spent there. But I am usually gone by dark. Sm mall I have had zero luck and I do not know where the spots are to pick up woman there. Hopefully someone will share that info.

4. Downtown street walkers. Around the cebu century hotel there are street walkers (or standing) during the day. Be careful theses girls are usually on drugs and most I wouldn't fuck with your dick. Wrap it (twice)! I have seen gems down here though.

Also if you stay on century hotel side of the street right in front of the Jollibe there are tons of street walkers on this side of the street all the way down to the end on the corner. Most work out of the hope hotel just around the corner. Most are pretty nasty and can be had for a few hundred pesos. Again be more than careful down here. This is the bottom of the barrel and. But if your bored and downtown you can do a little looking.

5. You can also get extra service downtown. There is a place that looks like a barber shop downtown. Almost directly across the street from the cebu century hotel. I have never seen anyone getting a hair cut here, but you can get a BJ for about 500 pesos if you negotiate very very well. I have only been in there one time. I am sure there are other places to get services during the day. I just have not found them yet maybe someone will share.

6. I know lots of guys walk around collecting phone numbers to text girls to see if they can get a hookup later that night.

I drink very little so I am not uaually suffering from a hangover in the morning, so I am always looking to stay busy during the day as well. I am sure. I hope otrers can add to the list of things to do.

I hope this helps a little.

[quote=sammon; 1243531]i do not think this guy means " pimp " in the pimp sense. it is just that once you meet girls and give them enough incentive by way of money and gifts they will bring their friends or relatives to make more money.

caution in this are there could be many **** girls which is hard to know. another thing is if any of girl's relatives or neighbours find out what this guy is doing it will be a big problem.

in philippines everybody watches everybody especially in cebu. do not believe these girls keep their mouth shut. sooner or later words get around that there is a foreigner seducing all teenage girls by money and.

gifts (in his own words ).

having been to cebu many times it is not a good idea to do what this guy is doing. keeping couple of contacts and having few girls coming over should be ok. but to get as many girls as possible using teenage.

girls will definitely get him in trouble. cebu is a small place compared to manila.

it is not a country where everybody minds their own business. philippine people are somewhat tolerant when they see foreigners with young girls although they comment and sometimes curse. my gf tells him what they are saying since i do not speak tagalog or visayan. and those comments are outright offensive and threatening. imagine one these school girls this guy is having sex with tells her folks about it when questioned?

he should really watch out and keep his activities under the radar.[/quote]100% agree. i have done somewhat simular things in manila where a friendly ex bar girl has fixed me up with lots of her non bar friends but nothing like what levdog describes. this were largely freebies or 500. 1000 peso fucks in manila with some small gift to my friend. if you analyse the text better after the commission of the "pimp" and the girls cut it works out that levdog is probably overpaying in cebu. yes he is getting fresh girls but it takes only one incident for the whole situation to turn on his head. i hope levdog is smart enough to move around often and has not given his real name to the hotel and girls. gifts such as phones to girls that don't own one is asking for trouble. the phone will not go unnoticed at home and then the trouble will start.

levdog i wish you all the best, i hope you are not taking this the wrong way, make sure you take extra care.

happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1243544]100% agree. I have done somewhat simular things in manila where a friendly ex bar girl has fixed me up with lots of her non bar friends but nothing like what Levdog describes. This were largely freebies or 500. 1000 peso fucks in manila with some small gift to my friend. If you analyse the text better after the commission of the "pimp" and the girls cut it works out that Levdog is probably overpaying in Cebu. Yes he is getting fresh girls but it takes only one incident for the whole situation to turn on his head. I hope Levdog is smart enough to move around often and has not given his real name to the hotel and girls. Gifts such as phones to girls that don't own one is asking for trouble. The phone will not go unnoticed at home and then the trouble will start.

Levdog I wish you all the best, I hope you are not taking this the wrong way, make sure you take extra care.

Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Mc don I would not advise some one to keep breaking the law and that he will alright if moves around ans give false names, they have a way of doing things in PI, they are called "set up", I would recommend any one reading this to follow the laws, it really is a small world in cebu, as you pointed out giving new girls phones starts people talking, I always use the line I will pay you for your time (just like the bar fine system) , and then it is on me if they just leave, he saying he only pays for results will get up some one nose and land him in hot water.

As I said there are ways of doing things here and people who already run the risk and they get paid for a reason, do not mess with it.

I'm based in Cebu City now, I'm coming accross a few hot prospects based in Lapu Lapu. It's too much hassle / too far to ship them to Cebu City given the availability of girls in Cebu City so I'm happy to pass along contact details or mention I've got a friend in LL. I've not met these girls in person so no guarantees but I'm only interested in 18-30 slim girls with no kids so they wil have passed that test. PM me if interested.

Hi GL, you don't post much lately so good to hear you're still out there having fun and helpin' people make friends. Several times I've had morning flights out of Cebu and on the way to the airport I am amazed at the huge number of ladies on their way to work at MEPZ (did I spell it right?). I keep thinking I should spend a few days in Lapux2.

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1243714]I'm based in Cebu City now, I'm coming accross a few hot prospects based in Lapu Lapu. It's too much hassle / too far to ship them to Cebu City given the availability of girls in Cebu City so I'm happy to pass along contact details or mention I've got a friend in LL. I've not met these girls in person so no guarantees but I'm only interested in 18-30 slim girls with no kids so they wil have passed that test. PM me if interested.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man;1244101]Hi GL, you don't post much lately so good to hear you're still out there having fun and helpin' people make friends. Several times I've had morning flights out of Cebu and on the way to the airport I am amazed at the huge number of ladies on their way to work at MEPZ (did I spell it right?). I keep thinking I should spend a few days in Lapux2.[/QUOTE]Yes I'm back in town and you are right I am much more circumspect about helping out guys with contacts etc than I was before. Or posting details of my somewhat unorthodox set up. (You and one or two other senior mebers have every right to call Ï told you so" on that one.) The problem is that there is not much upside and plenty of downside in trying to help people out. Eg Guys often hold you semi responsible for how things pan out with the girls even if you arejust doing them a free favour and there can be no guarantees also in a couple of cases girls I have thought I knew quite well and could recommend did some bad stuff eg one or two things stolen etc. The other problem for me is that maybe 50% of the guys on ISG are into bare back sex which means that girls caneasily pick up STD s if they go with too many of the guys from ISG.

I do have quite a few nice girls here and am happy to help out guys who are genuinely looking for a wife or newbies wanting a nice holiday GFE etc but not the many guys here who are just looking to fuck as many girls as possible who are more than cabale of finding their own contacts LOL.

I enjoyed your update on the pitfalls of helping ISG people out. It really has to be a buyer beware, make your own fun, type of arrangement. The forums are full of people with good stories, bad stories, flaky women and even flakier punters.

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1244410]The other problem for me is that maybe 50% of the guys on ISG are into bare back sex which means that girls caneasily pick up STD s if they go with too many of the guys from ISG.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure that this can be reliably predicted. Many men care about their health. In my short couple of visits to Cebu I have been offered bareback by the women. I only want to to have sex with condom which they don't always enjoy as much. I am surprised at the lack of contraceptive and STI education.

The withdrawal method was espoused by two of the ladies I met. Pretty sure my formal high school sex education classes debunked the effectiveness of that. These women were in the 30-35 age group.

Another one I heard was the concern about pregnancy more than catching any STI. These came from 22-24 age group. They know about condoms to stop pregnancy but unsure about how condoms can reduce incident of STI.

Anyway, I think many men can be easily presuaded if the girl is willing to go without. These guys have to understand that that is a decision by the pinay without education.

AJ

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1244720]I enjoyed your update on the pitfalls of helping ISG people out. It really has to be a buyer beware, make your own fun, type of arrangement. The forums are full of people with good stories, bad stories, flaky women and even flakier punters.

I'm not sure that this can be reliably predicted. Many men care about their health. In my short couple of visits to Cebu I have been offered bareback by the women. I only want to to have sex with condom which they don't always enjoy as much. I am surprised at the lack of contraceptive and STI education.

The withdrawal method was espoused by two of the ladies I met. Pretty sure my formal high school sex education classes debunked the effectiveness of that. These women were in the 30-35 age group.

Another one I heard was the concern about pregnancy more than catching any STI. These came from 22-24 age group. They know about condoms to stop pregnancy but unsure about how condoms can reduce incident of STI.

Anyway, I think many men can be easily presuaded if the girl is willing to go without. These guys have to understand that that is a decision by the pinay without education.

AJ[/QUOTE]Yes I'm afraid this is becomes a heated topic on which people have strongly held views so all I would wish to do is put forward my personal perspective rather than enter into a slanging match with anyone.

It's certainly true that maybe 90% of the sex these girls have with their Phil BFs is without a condom relying mainly on the withdrawl method. As a result maybe 65% of the girls on DIA are single mums as the Pinay BF almost always disappears as soon as the girl says she is pregnant. When a girl does get preggie here there is real heartache re abortion which is illegal here. There is often denial fro 3 or sometimes 6 months. One of my GFs from last year had a fat Christian goody 2 shoes tutorial partner who collapsed one day at the Catholic college they attended. She was takento hosital and they found she was 7 months pregnant and needed an emergency caesarian or she or the baby might die. This being the Phils no money no operation and her family had no immediate funds so guess who had to "lend"her the funds. Anyhow at least they both survived the baby was under 3 pounds I think so not sure how healthy long term. Her 19 year old sister came around to "repay" the debt plus earn some money so that the hospital would release the baby (typically the hospital will hold the baby hostage until all the bils are paid). Many times the girls try to find abortion piulls but its diffcult to be sure they get non fake drugs or advice as to exactly how to take them. If things go very wrong as they did with the brother of another one of my ex GFs who her mum tried to abort late in pregnancy you can be left with a mentally handicapped kid. All in all its a VERY BAD scene. I think the bare back guys are opening themselves up to the "darling I'm pregnant" can you marry me / support me etc etc risk. Sometimes the guys just cut and run at this point. I've also known guys who bit the bullet and married really very, very unsuitable girls and plenty end up sending $300 a month for a long time to support a kid that may or may not be theirs.

Re STDs of course condoms can only reduce not eliminate the risk. This is a message much promoted by the Catholic church : condoms are not 100% effective etc which is interpreted as OK no pioint in using them, despite the fact that they might be 99% effective. Almost all guys will swear blind that they are "clean" which they may or may not really believe but then what of the 10 or so bar / Mango girls he might have fucked bare back during the last 2 weeks? I take it with the same pinch of salt as the belief of 90% of guys that they have a bigger than average cock or are great in bed. Again my experience is that quite a few girls do pick up STDs who knows whether its from ISG type contacts or Pinoy BFs but almost invraiably they don't have the funds / knowledge to get early treatment so it can get quite bad before they finally get treatment.

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1244720]The withdrawal method was espoused by two of the ladies I met. Pretty sure my formal high school sex education classes debunked the effectiveness of that. These women were in the 30-35 age group.

Another one I heard was the concern about pregnancy more than catching any STI. These came from 22-24 age group. They know about condoms to stop pregnancy but unsure about how condoms can reduce incident of STI.

AJ[/QUOTE]This should not come as any surprise, as there is no sex education in filippine schools. Many people of all ages are filled with odd superstitions there.

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1244410]Yes I'm back in town and you are right I am much more circumspect about helping out guys with contacts etc than I was before. Or posting details of my somewhat unorthodox set up. (You and one or two other senior mebers have every right to call Ï told you so" on that one.) The problem is that there is not much upside and plenty of downside in trying to help people out.[/QUOTE]Interesting.

First, regarding the gents and expectations. I rarely share my girls contact info (mostly because I am spoiled and quite picky). I had my first shared girl 3. 5 years ago in cebu. A cano that I met on F Ramos street, at Bo's Coffee, just across from Robinson's, exchanged phone numbers with me, and later would give me the YM of one of his cebuana regulars. He was not at that time an ISG member. He told me that it might be hard to get into her knickers, at least a few dates. Also what a prude she was, no oral, etc. Nothing could have been further from the truth: she was a complete sl*t, liked posing for the cam, brought me her best friend for a 3-some, and liked to blow bubbles with my cum while I shot closeups of her face with my point / shoot camera (and was fine with p500+taxi). A few months later when I was in town he txt to meet across the street from Juliana's. We were talking about her, and just as I was about to tell him that she was no prude, he mentioned that he was going to increase her ST from 1000 to 1500 because she was becoming more nawty in the bed. I wisely kept my mouth shut as to not embarrass him. She now has a pinoy bf and won't do anyone else apparently.

I had two more shared girls after that from two regular ISG members, and also there were odd differing expectations. One of those gals I wrote about previously (I handed that cebuana p500 for an afternoon's fun, and she started hollering for 2000). These kinds of things make me ask the gent more questions now about the girl's particulars, and it must look like I'm looking a gift horse in the mouth. The difference in expectation can be quite extreme. When I mentioned on the open board about the argument with the cebuana over money, it ignited a small fire of disagreement here about what the going rate is in cebu. In PM, I got a number of notes from regular board members chastising me for low payment, and some freely admitted regularly paying cebuanas: 500, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000, and (no kidding) 8000 pesos for ST in cebu city."Cheap bastard!"

Following those girls, I had one recommended in Makati from a board member. When I asked him what she expected for ST, he said 1500-2000. Seemed very reasonable. In chat with her in YM, she was fine with that. We hit it off and she got more than she asked for.

Recently an aussie that I met previously in AC (not sure if he's on ISG) was chatting me in YM, and said he had a girl in CDO. Enthusiastically he gave me her YM and said he had mentioned me to her. He told me that he was too shy to use a camera during sex, and asked if I went there and banged her, could I take and send him pics (no kidding, I get this kind of request sometimes). Sure. I chatted her up, age 19, seems workable, she was agreeable to my kind of fun. Later in asking him what she would want for payment he said she never spends the night and he gives her 5000. What? Is she one of those over-priced gogo bar girls in CDO? Nope, just an unemployed po gal. He then said he also has a girl in butuan he wants me to meet, he also gives her 5000. WTF? 5000 is a month's wages for a butuana.

Now to the girls. Except for the Makati girl, every gal that another gent has recommended to me has been flaky in one odd way or another. I thought one of the gals had drifted off to sleep, and I rinsed in the shower (60 seconds). When I stepped out of the CR with a towel, she was dressed, her purse was over her shoulder, my wallet was in her left hand, and all the pesos were in her right hand: caught red-handed. Sheepish look on her face, as in addition to theft, she had agreed to LT. One recommended gal showed up with an ugly older friend, telling me I could f*ck the ugly one instead for the same amount of agreed money, while the cute one waited in the lobby. Sheesh.

As GL is hesitant to give out contact details (and me also) , I am hesitant to accept them, without asking questions (is she ok to cam?) , and then asking the girl the same questions (you're ok to swallow my cum?) in YM chat in advance of my visit. Doing this eliminates almost all of the girls now who are recommended to me. GL and I don't know each other, but if he were to recommend a cebuana who wants more than the mango ave bar girls, or one who is not as wild as those girls, it's not worth his time to recommend her, nor mine to chat the girl up. I think each time one of these oddities happens, its embarrassing for either myself or the recommending gent; hence my reticence (and GL's).

I think we are all little different which makes it very difficult to offer someone else a perfect girl. What does it for me may not do it for you. Also the girls tend to act different around different punters. I can understand why GL may have had high thoughts for some girls, after all he has been around with them for some time, looked after then so yeah they would not steal from him and would do much more to please him then say someone that he recommended that may have not treated them just as nice. Bottom line is in Phils where girls are plenty anyone reading this forum should know where to go and find girls. Info should be shared when specifics are in question, if someone wants a good spinner, big boobs and so on. Also reading reports and looking at photos from some of the regulars I can now tell with who I have somewhat similar taste and yeah I would probably enjoy their recommendations. It helps when the gent is also specific as to when he will provide assistance or the other person who is asking to be specific and explain what exactly he is looking for. Bottom line is like GL said, if helping there is plenty of downside, little upside, those that help and have access have been long around to have worked out ways of getting what they want anywhere in phils, at least thats my experience.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1240609]White Castle KTV in Lapu-Lapu was raided by police and anti [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] task force last Friday. Six employees of the Korean owned bar have been charged. Sounds like they refused to pay the right people and as a result the Korean owners and managers are in jail.[/QUOTE]Drove by there the other night and they were open for business. You have to take much of what you read in Philippine newspapers with a grain of salt.

Thanks for the info. But I was the one that posted the info about girls around the arena and near the national book store on this forum last month.

I was talking about a squater area like juanquera where the bring the girls out for you to look at. I guess it's going to take a slum expert to figure this out.

I am not saying that the locals are here to brag rather than give info isn't to put someone down. It is just what ii see. I do not live in cebu and give lots of detailed info when I can. Trying to help out my fellow traveler. I have also messaged a few people that live in cebu way before I called them out on not sharing info. Of course they shared nothing.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1245081]I am one of the guys who live here and I get pm from guys thanking me for my input. Most expats have gf so what do you expect. I was going to tell you where the other area is but insulting me you can find it yourself It was posted by some one living here but they did not impress you.

Guys from this forum who have made the effort and met me I have helped guys like you who post public insults will never get any help.

Any way off being the hard arse the other 2 street girl area is off mango the road down from national book store. And down from arena towards the port area the port road.

But next time lay off the insults the few guys I know who live here and post on the forum are helpful. We just do not bar hop every night. And unless we meet you we do not hand over our contacts. Often I get guys visiting who fuck me over so blame the pricks before you if you think we are hard.[/QUOTE]

I usually don't bother with the Go Go bars in Cebu City as my experience as they just compare to the ones in Angeles or Thailand, but my girlfriend was back in her province and I got the itch to play.

I went into BJ's on maxilon / mango at about 10 pm and the place was dead. To my suprise their was a number of cuties there, and I think I was 1 of 2 guys in the place. The first girl up on the stage was a long legged beauty-with a nice soft smile, great skin tone, and a nice set of breasts. That's what I was after. My girlfriend is smokin hot, but she's pretty flat. I don't mind that as I'm an ass man, and man, she has a great ass.

Anyway, tonite I wanted to play with some nice tits. The mamasan was friendly and I bought her a ladydrink. That usually does wonders for how your treated in those places. I asked the name of the girl on stage. Meg was her. And asked if she could join me for a drink. Mamasan said sure, after her dance.

About 10 minutes after I had come in the place, this skinny old Korean dude comes in and sits down. Just as Meg's dance is winding down, he calls to the mamasan, and motions that he wants Meg. I'm thinking "ohh, shit, their not going to screw me for the Korean, are they?"

Well, they did. The mamasan says, sorry (pointing to me) she's taken. So he gets up goes to this other lady, whom I assume is the GM or something and has words with her. Then he sits down right in front of the stage, to cock block me. Meg walks off, and the GM lady tells to go to the Korean jerk. My mamasan girl tries to intercede, but GM Dragon Lady is having none of it.

She actually has the gall to come over to me and say that, sorry, the other guy was first. Bullshit, but I know the score, the Cebu bars are for Koreans Only. White men, stay out.

Needless to say, I'll not go to BJ's again this side of the grave.

[QUOTE=Riverman; 1245581]She actually has the gall to come over to me and say that, sorry, the other guy was first. Bullshit, but I know the score, the Cebu bars are for Koreans Only. White men, stay out.

Needless to say, I'll not go to BJ's again this side of the grave.[/QUOTE]Riverman, she said "the other guy pays more" in Philippino dialect of English. You could overbid, get nasty and add friction to their choice to lie, or just accept this downside of the purest form of capitalism.

As for the moralizing discussion I am just stunned. What happened to to concept of freedom of choice for legally adults? If I want to lay bricks, kick a ball or take it up my ass for a living, I assume it is my moral right to choose this? For sure there are illegal aspects to this story but then we are all illegal. Morally I think there is not much difference in supporting an industry that is an easy way out, attracting girls to open their fanny for a penny, or to just ask the girl directly. For sure the Oligarks make less money if you pay the girl directly but this is hardly immoral. One can have opinion on prostitution as a whole and stick to well matured girlfriend ladies, but ISG is not the appropriate hangout then. Levdog maybe have to deal with some shitty karma for his choice in life, but so will most of us here. Most of us are addicts under our dick and a desperate and uncontrollable sexual drive. We work to fuck and fuck to have a reason to work. Yes there is more to most of our lives but IF you are on ISG, fucking more than one woman IS a big deal in your life. Levdogs strategy is efficient and somewhat heartless and cynical. Surely he is bound to miss out on the softer sides of sex at times, and female performance might be affected from the lack of bonding, but to call him an immoral criminal for hooking into the broker culture of Asia is just way out of line. What if these girls are happy to score all this money and if Levdog was a gentleman and a great fuck? Is it still immoral? Should he perhaps make it sound a bit prettier with some disclaimers of what a great guy he is and how sweet he is to these girls during the one hour sessions, and then it could pass the moral filter of ISG?

And if the justice system is totally corrupt and lawless as supposed, I guess it does not matter what he does since any crime will just be invented and slapped in your forehead anyway. Illogical reasoning to say that Levdog should stop fucking legal teens before the arbitrary justice system catch him and invent a crime. Most guys here use brokers in some way. Friends, mamasan, hotel staff, the guard, etc. It is all trafficking in the Philippines if a judge wants it. Maybe best for some people to just stay at home.

When I see all the hypocritic posts I realize I might need another hobby than reading the Cebu thread on ISG.

You can lie to yourself but you rarely convince others with the transparent crap that comes out of your mouth.

Barba.

Somebody earlier mentioned they never had any success with SM mall pick ups and asked if anyone knew of a pick up spot there.

Its true that the action there appears to be less than Ayala and Robinsons, however, there is some pick up action there, tho its not great.

A somewhat central and popular spot for white foreign guys to eat is the French Baker resto. Often semi-pro girls will hang out on the rail in front of that place trying to get the eye of a foreign guy. The girls that I've seen there trying to pick me up haven't excited my interest, so I didn't bother.

SM is a central transport hub for the v-hire vans and jeeps coming in from the provinces, so you get alot of young but relatively conservative girls passing thru and shopping there. My experience is the somewhat higher end cebu city girls hang at Ayala for pick ups, and at Robinsons its a bit of a mix of higher end, thru just about street girl types.

As some of you may have read my experience in Manila last month, well, at the end of it, things did turn around, but not as I was expecting it to be, so I had made a decision never to return, however, reaching back home and looking at my options, the nightmare of being alone and with my hands began again. There are really few or if any good options for an Indian guy to gets its load off once in a year or so within budget.

Price wise and cost of living wise with Visa extension, No place could come close to PH IMO. Thailand is an option but you know the way they treat Indians and our smell does not get taken lightly plus one beer. 5 guys, one girl thingy and its better not to venture that route any more.

With my budget, I could go for a week vacation in Europe if I could get a visa that is, even if I get a visa, I could stay no more than a month, south america is an option but long term visa is a problem. Plus language. Everywhere I turn around. PH stands out in all points. There is truly no place like PH for me. No matter how bad it gets from time to time.

Considering.

1. Cost of living. On par with India.

2. Visa extension. 2 yrs.

3. Language. English not a problem.

4. Pollution, corruption, infrastructure. Not like the west. But way better than India.

5. Getting laid. In abundance not a problem at all.

So from a guy from third world perspective. PH is a paradise that I can ill afford to miss.

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In the end. I had to re-prioritize my options and see where I did go wrong and found it to be Manila and not PH in general. Its was too fast paced and chaotic scene for me.

So by April. I'm planning my trip to Cebu, I should have sticked with this option. Planning to stay for over a year or so. Any advice on Condo renting would be great as I found, folks are finding it hard to find a good condo in Cebu.

Thanks

FF, I agree with you at times but you constantly end up in these keyboard fights. Chill a bit, mate. You know as well as anyone that they primarily care abut the money and not the race. Faster money and more money is what counts. Why would it be relevant for you if someone prefers Asian-Americans? This itself is exactly the same form of stupidity you point at. These bar people that in your opinion are preferring you as a customer, categorize you as fast money and possibly smaller damage to the girls vagina, and this can be just as wrong or right as saying all Koreans are arrogant. And it will certainly not have any reflection, good or bad, on you as a person. Even indicating that someone else is less fortunate or "good" than you, based on the prejudice of the staff in a bar in Cebu, is a highly unreliable and questionable strategy for self fulfillment.

It is normal that we categorize humans in groups based on culture / behavioral patterns and look, and then make certain generalizations based on this. It is, or at least was, a vital survival strategy for thousands of years during the course of evolution. Not saying anyone here hates Koreans, but a fellow IS allowed to hate Koreans IF he wants. His life, his choice, his karma. Where does all moral polices and opinion polices get their air from anyway? Is this the miss universe interview or a place where working girl mongers gather to pass time before next fuck for cash-trip? Today one guy, out of the blue, shared details to a 4"11' pregnant and broke girl with big juicy tits. Now that's what I call an ISG role model.

Starchild I know nothing about condos but respect for your honesty!

Barba

[quote=mattrick;1245041]drove by there the other night and they were open for business. you have to take much of what you read in philippine newspapers with a grain of salt.[/quote]heard the korean owners payed some fines and made the requested payments to the proper people to reopen. only a matter of time before they stop paying and another 'rescue operation' will be put in place. the grain of salt in this case was true, just the saving face move of calling it a 'rescue operation and **** investigation' was more for the local officials to save face with the public and hide behind some noble quest. the real motive of the operation was a shakedown and everyone knows that.

if indeed the korean owners refused to pay they would not be allowed to reopen. club jaguar was an example of a owner who refused to pay, the local officials enacted a law to close him down for good when he tried to reopen under another persons name.

you play, you pay. goes perfect with the new moto of the philippines,"it's more fun in the philippines".

[QUOTE=Brenno;1246227]Life is short and world is big, why should I go back to Cebu?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Brenno; 1246228]You know what I think? I think that Cebu has nothing to offer. However even in the desert something can be found, this doesn't make the desert a paradise. People who do not have anything to say, just do not write reports. I think the majority of people (99%) going to Cebu do not find nothing but they silently skip over and none know nothing about them. See, how many names write on cebu thread? 10, 15 maybe?

Sorry, this is what I think.[/QUOTE]I must be the 1 percent. These are all mall pickups (well, they picked me up). I liiiiiiike Cebu.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1245155]I was one of the guys you PM and you never contacted me when you got here? And you said April you get here? Some of the other guys you pm do not live here

I am the slum expert and there is no place like you describe, that is my street today due to the tsunami alert as you can see I live in the middle of it.[/QUOTE]Frenzy,

You were the only one who mentioned the Negros-Cebu earthquake and the tsunami scare that happened Monday morning and was all the talk of the Philippines and had nerves on edge for awhile. Alot of the members engaged in flame wars have never visited Cebu. Just goes to show how few spend time in Cebu and are plugged into what's going on.

I left CC early Monday morning for white sand and was in a van on the road when the earthquake hit. I didn't feel a thing and narrowly missed the chaos. However I felt smaller after-shocks as late as Wednesday morning farther away from the epicenter.

The ring of fire has brought about a change of topic, let's move on.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1246236]You state you know how to move? You where in cebu 4 days and you could not get a girl? You sound disabled to me and I think you are blind you could not see the other bars, as I replied to you before there are more than 2 bars in cebu, if you visit for 4 days do a bar hop every night, do not waste time on malls and DIA or you will end up wanking in your hotel room.[/QUOTE]Dude I was in Cebu 2 months ago and getting ready to go again. I did my home work. Had lots of DIA girls on tap. Guess what I did not even call one of them. I stayed at Parklane. I walked to Ayala Mall. With in 5 minutes I picked up two hotties from the province. Every time I walked over there I had some action. Also went to a few bars and found a few beauties easily. Dude- if you can't get laid in Cebu- you can't get laid.

Had 2 meetings set up with new girls I met on DIA this morning.

The first one, when she was about to leave for Robinson's where we were to meet, asked me if she could bring 3 friends instead of 1 for the first meeting, and would I pay for a taxi to and from Talisay (meeting her at the drive in, when they arrived, to pay). I told her emphatically NO. In fact, don't come at all. I have no doubt I could have gotten laid by her, if not all her friends too. But obviously she was setting herself up to be a real piso burner.

In my experience, the good ones never try and hit you for high $$$ before even meeting in person and they can and should take a jeep. If they are well off enouph to take a taxi to the first meeting, good for them, but don't tell me about or ask for piso for it. (Once I know them and have received good service, then fine, a reasonable taxi allowance will be built into the deal.) Furthermore I had no interest in paying for 4 meals and or 4 Bo's overpriced coffee concontions, which, sure as the sun sets in the west would have been next. 1 or 2 cheap meals I'm happy to write off as the cost of doing business, but 4 is just damn irritating.

The 2nd one arrived on time, and alone. Both great signs. She was 19, very pretty, with a fantastic body. Surprisingly she wasnt hungry for Jollibee or Mang Inisal or something like that, and all she wanted was a 50 piso shake from the food court. All to the good.

The bad was, however, that she was angling for a boyfriend, not a playmate, despite what I indicated to her in prior chat. Ohh, well, I would have liked to bang her, but it wasnt meant to be. If your mining the DIA route, this is par for the course. A certain perctage of girls know what your after, but are desparate to meeting a foreign guy for LTR and hope they can flip you to that, even when you are up front with your short term desires. I gave her 50 piso for jeeps and sent her on her way. Hope she changes her mind later and txts me for a booty call.

So, with those 2 strike outs I called one of my regulars (found on DIA) and had a great 2. 5 hour session with her in the afternoon. Paid her PHP 500 for the short time plus PHP 200 for taxi, and we parted company, both happy.

This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.

In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.

I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.

Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.

That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.

Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.

What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.

I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.

So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?

[QUOTE=Afaire; 1252316]This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.

In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.

I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.[/QUOTE]You have made a few big mistakes. Cebu is a good place for having great non-pro GFE hookups that are met primarily over the internet. You did not do your homework to develop and find suitable women to meet [b]before your trip[/b] And to cultivate some kind of relationship using YM chat weeks before your trip. Just combing through DIA and sending messages to woman asking for there CP# and to meet for fun when you are already in Cebu is a fatal mistake. Your DIA and SMS messages will mostly go ignored by the average girls leaving only those who can be considered online pros to reply.

What average woman on a dating site wants a guy to send her a message when he is already in town? [b]NO ONE! [/b] Most woman in Cebu (and in the Philippines) like to get to know you before your trip so they can tell all there friends (chika-chika) they have a foreigner coming to meet them and they feel special. Most want to get to know you through online chat and after they get comfortable most will be ok staying with you in your hotel and taking good care of you in bed. You did not give them enough time to get excited about your arrival.

Caution, this is not about pouring sweet bullshit into there ears as one guy put it. You can be yourself and make no promises about love, marriage or commitment and even better if they know you are not serious as the chat sessions just function as a getting to know each other period.

Also note that even if you do chat with dozens of woman before your trip and they all say they are ok to come to your room a certain percentage will meet but not follow through so always have a Plan B-C-D ect. Some will refuse to meet no matter what.

[quote]Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.[/quote]You are only paying the Juiliana girls 500p for taxi? Dude that's karipot prices! 500p is good for short time street pickups but for Juliana girls most expect 1000p short time or 1500-2000p all night depending on the quality of the girl. These girls talk and if you do not pay the going rate most will quickly leave you alone.

[quote]That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.

Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.[/QUOTE]You are new and your main problem is you can't tell the difference between a girl who is a semi-pro working the mall and average girls having 'hangout time' at the mall. Most average girls when approached will not go with you but are open to exchanging numbers and becoming text-mate friends, but only if you seem nice and not a sex-maniac. No girl wants to look like a GRO infront of her friends di ba. Use some charm, be smooth and don't expect every girl to fall at your feet.

SM mall is not the place for free-lancers, but some do make the rounds. You have to have some experience to spot them and some game and balls to approach normal women but it can be done. Gwapo guys and guys that present themselves well stand the best chance at instant pickup success. Short, over-weight, smokers, unshaven, very loud abrasive talkers or guys who need underarm will find YMMV greatly in a place like Cebu.

[quote]What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.

I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.[/QUOTE]You will have to have some game and be smooth to pickup normal girls. The women who work in the malls have all been chatted up before and the word is out on foreigners coming to Cebu for sex with very few guys marriage minded. Hard to score these woman as many co-workers are watching you talk to her and again she doesn't want to look like a GRO infront of everyone.

[quote]So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?[/QUOTE]Again you did NOT do your homework online before arrival so now you are stuck in your hotel room with your dick in your hand. Try picking up normal girls during the day, but since you are shy that will be hard for you. I do not know how much longer your trip will last, but my advice to you would be to go back online and search for a few suitable girls who are online at the same time you are. Send them a short message to the effect you are looking for someone sweet and nice to spend time with as you will be arriving in Cebu soon. Screen the replies carefully and focus on the ones who seem most enthusiastic you will meet them. Send them a reply and tell them you will arrive in a few days and then go from there.

While that game plan is brewing go to the bars in the early evenings and barfine a girl (or two). I know you mentioned you are not looking for pro's but since you did not do any homework before arrival and you strikeout picking up average girls it's either that or your dick in your hand. You choose.

You mentioned you had a few good experinces with some DIA hookups, why not meet them again? I think I know why, you didn't properly hold up your end of the deal if you gave them 500p (or nothing) and they will not return because you are branded karipot. Maybe you can clarify.

Again, some free advice. Just because a few guys posted they had a great time in Cebu (or any other place) doesn't mean girls will fall at your feet when you get off the plane. Guys posting it's "easy" to pickup average girls in the Philippines sometimes bend the truth alittle (or alot) and often leave out vital details like they paid 2-3-4000p for the experience. Nothing is ever as easy as it sounds and picking up girls requires work, game, effort and social graces. Also some guys are better looking or have a more appealing personality and it takes little effort for them to get laid no matter where they are.

If all else fails make a big sign and walk around Colon "Wanted: Women for sex, apply within, no experience necessary, OJT rates apply" and that should ensure success. ;)

YMMV should be stamped in your freakin' passport upon arrival.

Well said Stroker Ace88. Cheap Charlies are not appreciated. These guys think that because the girl doesn´t ask for money, she doesn´t need it.

Thank you for the comments guys,

Dateinasia: indeed, the 3 girls who I got, I contacted them before arrival, I continue to see one of them. I was not aware of this important "before" issue.

Malls and street: ok, I just have to grow some balls. Still, I don't understand why it was easy for me to approach girls in latin america and why here I feel uncomfortable. I feel like flirting is not welcome. But it may be just my bug.

Money: I've always paid 500p for short time + occasional meals. Now I see your reaction. So how much one should give to freebies in cebu?

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1252363]You have made a few big mistakes. Cebu is a good place for having great non-pro GFE hookups that are met primarily over the internet. You did not do your homework to develop and find suitable women to meet [b]before your trip[/b] And to cultivate some kind of relationship using YM chat weeks before your trip. Just combing through DIA and sending messages to woman asking for there CP# and to meet for fun when you are already in Cebu is a fatal mistake. Your DIA and SMS messages will mostly go ignored by the average girls leaving only those who can be considered online pros to reply.[/QUOTE]Great info Stroker Ace88, must read info for a newbie.

[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1252546]Great info Stroker Ace88, must read info for a newbie.[/QUOTE]Agree with Starchild and David. Post of Distinction about Cebu.

Just a point about DIA (I will put it here rather than on the Chat etc thread).

Guys need to realise that some of the hot girls on DIA get (literally) 100s of hits PER DAY.

If they reply to your message and then don't seem to remember you when you write back it is because they do not have a good "filing system" either in their head or on their computer, especially if they are online in a cafe for 30 or 60 minutes.

I met an "average" woman a few weeks ago and she showed me her DIA on my laptop. She had 55 messages received in the recent 10 hours since she last logged on. It gets damn difficult for her to know who is who.

Just saying this so you can cut some of the girls some slack if they don't answer your messages in the way you expect. You need to make yourself [B]STAND OUT[/B]

[url]http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest[/url]%2BNews / Singapore / Story / A1Story20120229-330733. Html.

Six arrested over webcam love scam.

POLICE have busted an Internet love-scam syndicate comprising six individuals who allegedly extorted about $100, 000 from at least five victims by threatening to circulate compromising videos of them.

The suspects, comprising three men and three women aged between 17 and 47, were nabbed yesterday at a flat in Marsiling. From which their illicit operations are believed to have been carried out. And in the vicinity of Ang Mo Kio.

Among them was a couple. A 22-year-old man and a 17-year-old girl. Believed to be the masterminds of the syndicate.

Items such as laptops, mobile phones, ATM cards, Internet-banking devices and bank books were also seized.

During a press conference held yesterday at the police headquarters in New Phoenix Park, Deputy Superintendent of Police (DSP) Aileen Yap, who is deputy head of investigation at Ang Mo Kio Police Division, said that the "female subject would befriend potential victims online and gain their trust through chats".

This was conducted on popular Internet website Alamak. Com, where webcam chats would take place between them.

Once a victim's trust had been gained, the suspect would undress to persuade the male victim to strip in front of the webcam. The suspect would then record it, DSP Yap added.

The suspect would then threaten to circulate the footage online unless the victim transferred money to her.

The scam came to light after a 22-year-old man lodged a police report on Sunday, after being scammed of at least $97, 000 over a nine-month period.

The victim had made more than 80 transactions during that time to various bank accounts provided by the suspects.

The police said two other scam reports made in February last year and early this month may be linked to the same syndicate, but at least two other victims have yet to make reports.

If convicted, the suspects face a jail term of up to seven years, along with caning for the male suspects.

[url]http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_771921.html[/url]

Man $97, 000 poorer after online striptease in video chat.

The young man thought he had found a friend.

The 17-year-old girl he met on an online chatroom called Alamak. Com was friendly. Very friendly, in fact.

Within a month, their online chats had moved on to video chats, which then turned risque. She started stripping for him.

He did the same, but that one session of cyber titillation ended up with him being terrorised for nine months and $97, 000 poorer.

[url]http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1185802/1/.html[/url]

Police bust online love syndicate, victims lost over $100, 000.

SINGAPORE: Police have busted an online syndicate which extorted at least $100, 000 from unsuspecting individuals looking for love.

The case arose when a 22-year-old man lodged a police report on Sunday, alleging that he was a victim of extortion.

Initial investigations reveal that the man had befriended a woman in May last year, via an Internet chat room.

Both engaged in webcam conversations which led to the woman persuading the victim to appear naked in front of the webcam.

Unknown to the victim, the woman had recorded the footage. She then threatened to circulate the footage online if the victim did not transfer money to her.

The man complied and this went on for nine months, with several other suspects entering the fray.

In all, the man made over 80 transactions, amounting to at least $97, 000 to various bank accounts provided by the suspects.

The suspects, three men and three women, aged between 17 and 47, were arrested on separate occasions on Tuesday.

The first arrest of four suspects was made at about 4am at a unit in Block 32 at Marsiling Drive.

The other two suspects were arrested later at 3. 30 pm in the vicinity of Ang Mo Kio.

It has been revealed that at least four other victims were conned, with the suspects receiving a total of at least $100, 000.

Two of the suspects, a 22-year-old man and a 17-year-old woman, will be charged in Court on Wednesday for an offence of Extortion with Common Intention. Investigations are still on-going for the remaining suspects.

If convicted, the suspects could be jailed up to seven years and caned.

Police gave this advice.

DSP Aileen Yap, Deputy Head of Investigation at Ang Mo Kio Police Division, said: "Exercise caution when dealing with unknown people over the internet. Do not accede to any request that may put yourself in a vulnerable position such as performing compromising acts in front of the webcam."

Singapore dollars I assume, Singapore chat site and Singapore scam. Wienie waggers beware. This is another post worthy to be included in the "paranoid members" thread.

Just got back from a weeks holiday in Cebu. Had a great time.

Being North American (didn't see too many other NA there) , it was refreshing to go to a place where almost everyone spoke and understood me well. Although I speak a little Spanish and Portugeese it was so much easier in Cebu. That and the freindly attitude of the native population was especially nice. Nowhere I have travelled, and I've been to many places have the locals been so friendly and polite.

David recommended the Marriot for us and it was perfect; next to the Ayala Mall was a bunus as we always walked to dinner and found many nice girls to talk to. Beware though, there were a few Ladyboys lurking by (np if thats your thing).

I couldn't agree more with David and the other senior contributors to this Forum. To really enjoy the Full experience you need to do your homework. We did and it paid off hansomely. Thanks to a little help from my friends I had ample pro and non-pro action. Average cost was about 2500P or about $60 USD. I have np with that. In a week I had 3 pros and 7 non-pros and all were good in there own way. Personally, although I prefer the Latins in Rio, Cartagena and Havana; BUT, women here were pationate and every one of them tried there best to accomodate my needs. I was never rushed and no-one ever asked for money up front except for the small Bar-Fines I paid (700p) , about 18 USD. All in all would recommend Cebu.

BTW-its a good idea getting a local Sim card and some minutes-I had a non-locked phone I put in a SIM and 500 minutes for 600p thats $15USD. That was plenty for the week and was indispensible in texting the various dates we had.

*URGENT*Scam ALERT.

A very popular forum [url]www.livingincebuforums.com[/url] Was run by a convict from US, who has now scammed millions of pesos from newbies in Cebu, the person Paul Petrea who has a history of scamming in US and PH is now on the run. His gate keepers are trying to suppress his whereabouts and his sister sites like [url]www.cebuexpatservices.com[/url] Is run by his cohorts. Please do not deal with any of these sites or the persons. Before, escaping he told the forum, he is going to US, but he has a fake passport and bribed the authorities to stay in PH, he cannot escape from the PH, as he has cases in US also, Please inform police if you see him in your city in PH.

As is the general rule as senior members know already here. Never ever deal with your own kind, they are the first ones to scam you. The guy played a LONG CON. Opened forum. Let it run for five years, gained the trust of many members and then started an investment scheme and in first round, he paid out. Words spread that its a good investment and expats invested most of their savings. Never to be seen again.

[url]http://paulpetrea.blog.com/[/url]

[url]http://liveinthephilippinesforum.com/showthread.php?tid=124[/url]

Please go through the above links to see the extent of the scam and learn that never ever to trust your own kind first. How seemingly guys who appear to help you out of their way are the first ones to take everything you have.

If this doesn't wake you up to not trust anyone in PH especially your own kind, then god save you.

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I have no personal agenda against the guy, I just came to know about the scam today and people losing their savings, I'm just warning you so that you won't fall for it. Not now. But in the next five years. When this story dies down and he plays his scam again as he has done before. He is now hiding to let time run out on the story so that he can con again. Please be careful. Thanks

[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1254297]*URGENT*Scam ALERT.

Was run by a convict from US, who has now scammed millions of pesos from newbies in Cebu, the person Paul Petrea who has a history of scamming in US and PH is now on the run. His gate keepers are trying to suppress his whereabouts and his sister sites like.

Is run by his cohorts. Please do not deal with any of these sites or the persons. Before, escaping he told the forum, he is going to US, but he has a fake passport and bribed the authorities to stay in PH, he cannot escape from the PH, as he has cases in US also, Please inform police if you see him in your city in PH.

[SNIP]I have no personal agenda against the guy, I just came to know about the scam today and people losing their savings, I'm just warning you so that you won't fall for it. Not now. But in the next five years. When this story dies down and he plays his scam again as he has done before. He is now hiding to let time run out on the story so that he can con again. Please be careful. Thanks[/QUOTE]SC,

Things are never as they appear on the surface. I was aware of both LinC and the blog for sometime now but unaware of the drama bubbling under the surface about a potential scam. I have no insider knowledge of who wrote the blog or if the real motivation behind it is revenge or trying to wake up the Cebu expat community about a scammer.

The blog in question has been active for awhile, and someone has been trying to dig up and find dirt on ALOT of the members (pinoy (a) and foreigner expats alike, mostly mods and admin). Posting divorce records, financial transactions, real estate dealings and criminal records of some senior expat members seems to me like a vendetta and smear campaign, but that's just what I see looking in from the outside.

I am not a member there nor do I know anyone personally from LinC but use the info posted by members to guide me to find goods and service in the Cebu area and will continue to do so. I would NEVER lend-donate-give-buy-invest anything from anyone I met over the internet or even in person. Sucks that the World is full of leeches and the nice guys get thrown in the same box with them, but better safe than sorry.

Personally always best to use caution when approached by someone (tourist, expat, local ect) who says they have discovered a way to make good extra income. If it was so good they wouldn't be needing your money. Alot of shit gets thrown around by fellow expats in the Philippines from time to time over money, jealousy, life-style choices they don't agree with and possible competing forums.

Starchild You can PM me and we can take this discussion private.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1254420]SC,

Things are never as they appear on the surface. I was aware of both LinC and the blog for sometime now but unaware of the drama bubbling under the surface about a potential scam. I have no insider knowledge of who wrote the blog or if the real motivation behind it is revenge or trying to wake up the Cebu expat community about a scammer.

The blog in question has been active for awhile, and someone has been trying to dig up and find dirt on ALOT of the members (pinoy (a) and foreigner expats alike, mostly mods and admin). Posting divorce records, financial transactions, real estate dealings and criminal records of some senior expat members seems to me like a vendetta and smear campaign, but that's just what I see looking in from the outside.

I am not a member there nor do I know anyone personally from LinC but use the info posted by members to guide me to find goods and service in the Cebu area and will continue to do so. I would NEVER lend-donate-give-buy-invest anything from anyone I met over the internet or even in person. Sucks that the World is full of leeches and the nice guys get thrown in the same box with them, but better safe than sorry.

Personally always best to use caution when approached by someone (tourist, expat, local ect) who says they have discovered a way to make good extra income. If it was so good they wouldn't be needing your money. Alot of shit gets thrown around by fellow expats in the Philippines from time to time over money, jealousy, life-style choices they don't agree with and possible competing forums.

Starchild You can PM me and we can take this discussion private.[/QUOTE]Very well said SA, I totally agree with you, they have a well oiled con game running in Cebu for a while now. There modus operandi is quite smart, they opened a forum and troll other forums and scout on unsuspecting newbies with as much valuable information as possible to gain their trust, they go out of their way in helping you settled down in Cebu like with their other website [url]www.cebuexpatservices.com[/url]. Once they have their confidence they play the game of investment after 4-5 years of trust and they have around 20 newbies in their arms. First they trick you with small investment and pay you off and then they play the final card and play the long con and you invest millions as many did and one fine day they run away with it.

The story is very true, I know the person who have lost considerable amount of money.

The guy Paul is hiding in the PH claiming that he is in US, where he can't go, he has around 20 million pesos worth of investment and he will wait it out, before starting a new con as he has done since arriving in the PH. Many expats have now lost their life saving to this bottom feeder. Please be very careful.

Those who are outside Cebu expat circles will have no idea about the investment con game that he started in August 2011, many expats are pissed and are hunting for him. He is a smart con artist and have cohorts with similar background pimping for him.

My point is these story will die down or he may get arrested if the expats who lost their money makes a complaint, but the important lesson to learn here is to never ever trust anyone especially your own kind. Thanks

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1246254]I must be the 1 percent. These are all mall pickups (well, they picked me up). I like Cebu.[/QUOTE]Two of the four photo's are tourist photo's. No indication they ever went your bedroom.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1270957]Two of the four photo's are tourist photo's. No indication they ever went your bedroom.[/QUOTE]SX4,

Westcoast posted those pics a few months ago, what's with the delayed comment? Anywhoo, while I generally tend to agree with alot of the things you post I will have to respectfully disagree on this one. Chances are very good Westcoast met them in Ayala (one pic was taken in Bo's coffee Ayala) and did the deed with one or both of them. No reason to think otherwise unless you saw the same pics posted somewhere else on the net, but that's doubtful IMO as WC has been posting his pics forever without any issues.

Sx4 are you feeling ok? You seem pretty grumpy today.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1271245]SX4,

Westcoast posted those pics a few months ago, what's with the delayed comment? Anywhoo, while I generally tend to agree with alot of the things you post I will have to respectfully disagree on this one. Chances are very good Westcoast met them in Ayala (one pic was taken in Bo's coffee Ayala) and did the deed with one or both of them. No reason to think otherwise unless you saw the same pics posted somewhere else on the net, but that's doubtful IMO as WC has been posting his pics forever without any issues.

Sx4 are you feeling ok? You seem pretty grumpy today.[/QUOTE]I was trying to keep Westy up to his usual hard core form.

Even so, newbies should know, you can meet and take pics of girls in Malls, but that does not necessarily mean photographer, or yourself, will make it to the bedroom with them. Hardcore evidence is expected of Westy. He failed me. Myself too shy to take pics, depend on folks like Westy to show me what the brave hearts get up to.

I was in Cebu last few weeks – mainly for diving (Moalboal) but checked out possibilities in Cebu City on way in and out.

Bars. Pretty disappointing. Sisters, Vikings, Papillion, BJ's, El Gecko. + a couple of others in same area. Only went 2 nights and both times fairly early (before midnight). Girls very marginal and I was rejecting plenty much nicer in Angeles. I was the only westerner in several of the bars and there were large groups of Japnese and Korean visitors being dropped off in minibuses. Pushy in terms of requests for LDs at Sisters and BJs. OK elswewhere. In the end – I did not barfine and wasn't that disappointed to go home alone.

Mall walking. Approached by multiple girls of the Terraces at Ayala and also by Ladyboys. Took one nice dark skinned girl who approached me back to Parklane and enjoyed everything on offer including anal. Gave her a 1000 tip for her trouble. Found it hard to make a cold call approach on girls by themselves or with their friends. Ironically the bookshop at the Terraces was where I had success with this approach and I enjoyed a nice girl I met there. But effort vs reward was pretty high. If you are inherently lazy like me, then you will get sick of the Terraces circuit quickly! Saw plenty of other mongers 'working the strip' so to speak so I guess the pickings must be better than I was able to obtain. Hello if that was you last week!

DIA and contacts. A bit hit and miss. Had plenty of contacts; and made sure that they knew I wanted them in the room and in bed. Nonetheless, two turned up wanting no more than a cuddle or comfortable bed for the afternoon. Sorry! I think you need to be very explicit in your screening. Two others had a quite professional attitude and were competent providers . They made clear they expected payment before we got down to business and so I gave them 1500 each. One other DIA contact I ended up taking on my dive trip and she was very open for all kinds of new experiences so generally very satisfied. But I had to put in a lot of effort and give many free consultations (I am MD) so again effort vs reward was marginal.

Overall – I doubt I would go back to Cebu if mongering was the only thing on the agenda. However if you are interested in the beaches and diving and other things, then it's a good destination.

[QUOTE=Bubba999;1272103]put in a lot of effort and give many free consultations (I am MD)[/QUOTE]I hope they weren't like the consultations that one medical or dental professional gave in Peru. I made the mistake of fixing this guy up and later got some feedback that the girl I had fixed him up with was insisting on CBJs. This is very strange behavior in Peru so I got on her case and told her that she was making me look bad by insisting on this ridiculous practice. She told me that this guy had spent the whole time showing her graphic mouth disease photos on his laptop and telling her that this would be her future if she kept on giving BBBJs. I had to show her some statistics and get her mind right.

So I have been willing to share info and meet fellow ISGers.

Now it seems 1 of our own has told my GF about this site and my handle here!

What is the protocol in this situation?

I am tempted to call him out by name.

What say you all?

WR please weigh in.

Out him if you are certain he's the one, but you shouldn't double post. I imagine you are seeing red, but still forum members interested in Cebu read all the threads, so no reason to post on more than one. I just saw W. R. Half an hour ago and am sure he will have something to say about your situation.

[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot; 1272137]So I have been willing to share info and meet fellow ISGers.

Now it seems 1 of our own has told my GF about this site and my handle here!

What is the protocol in this situation?

I am tempted to call him out by name.

What say you all?

WR please weigh in.[/QUOTE]UP.

We have known each other a long time, and I know your gf also. A real keeper.

And we know who did this so best mention his handle and ask why he acted like an asshole. Maybe because he wants her for himself and this way he proves you the bad man.

David33 would have more views on that aspect as the guy is very likely doing this for purely self serving reason and not for anything else.

If he bothers to have the courage to FR here then be interested to hear his view as most of those who do this get flamed badly for their acts.

Sorry to hear that it may not be all nice now with the gf but talk to her and see what she says.

And the ISG member. I know who you are but will let UP disclose and see if you any 'balls' to respond intelligently and in a rationale manner.

Rant over. UP enjoy Cebu

[QUOTE=David_33;1272201]Out him if you are certain he's the one, but you shouldn't double post. I imagine you are seeing red, but still forum members interested in Cebu read all the threads, so no reason to post on more than one. I just saw W. R. Half an hour ago and am sure he will have something to say about your situation.[/QUOTE]I have no doubt who it is, but am curious what his response, if any, to me will be.

Give him that opportunity before I name names.

Joined him and some of his friends last yr on his be'day and had the silly idea to bring my GF along barhopping w / them.

Perhaps he can never tell a lie so when she asked him how he knew me recently he told her, live and learn.

Been trying to be a good boy and get this young woman thru college, at a cost of 1000s, dollars not pesos.

I haven't been as active as I should on this board myself so I can't knock him on that front.

Will be back and forth Marriott and Radisson for the next few weeks, lounge drinks on me.

Cheers

Search may be on soon for a new GF, I can only hope for the success you have had.

Silly old me assuming what happens on ISG stays on ISG.

On an aside I have been told that obtaining a drivers license in Cebu allows one discounted rates at hotels. Looking into that now. Anyone else tried that?

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1272207]UP.

We have known each other a long time, and I know your gf also. A real keeper.

And we know who did this so best mention his handle and ask why he acted like an asshole. Maybe because he wants her for himself and this way he proves you the bad man.

David33 would have more views on that aspect as the guy is very likely doing this for purely self serving reason and not for anything else.

If he bothers to have the courage to FR here then be interested to hear his view as most of those who do this get flamed badly for their acts.

Sorry to hear that it may not be all nice now with the gf but talk to her and see what she says.

And the ISG member. I know who you are but will let UP disclose and see if you any 'balls' to respond intelligently and in a rationale manner.

Rant over. UP enjoy Cebu[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot; 1272137]So I have been willing to share info and meet fellow ISGers.

Now it seems 1 of our own has told my GF about this site and my handle here!

What is the protocol in this situation?

I am tempted to call him out by name.

What say you all?

WR please weigh in.[/QUOTE]UP,

Hmmm, sticky situation indeed. Can you provide some background info, did you post pics of her on ISG or post details that would lead another member to zero in on her? How did the member in question connect the dots and come into contact with her? What was your GF's reaction?

I can tell you are very upset with this recent turn of events but IMO there are ALOT of loser asshole members and lurkers around. Never give out too much info and you can never be burned.

I feel for you UP. I have been burned before when a guy showed ISG pics I posted to the girl. My advice, give the member some time to post a reply and defend his actions. If he refuses to reply post his name only as a last resort, because to most of us posting his real name is a mortal sin.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1270957]Two of the four photo's are tourist photo's. No indication they ever went your bedroom.[/QUOTE]Sxxxx, apology. I missed this post before. I'd be interested to know (thru PM please) where you found those tourist photos (all of them belong to me). In the original post of 4 pics, the girl in my room was obviously in my room. But of the two in yellow shirts, here is at least one of them with me (a hard drive problem, I lost most of the rest in '10). For the other two girls in blue / pink, same (hard drive problem). As I didn't gift any of these originals to anyone, I'm curious as to how they got 'tourist'why. I do sometimes share pics in the email with others, but I usually watermark them.

Forgive the duplicity of my threads.

Thanks to those who have responded & provided support.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1272281]UP,

Hmmm, sticky situation indeed. Can you provide some background info, did you post pics of her on ISG or post details that would lead another member to zero in on her? How did the member in question connect the dots and come into contact with her? What was your GF's reaction?

I can tell you are very upset with this recent turn of events but IMO there are ALOT of loser asshole members and lurkers around. Never give out too much info and you can never be burned.

I feel for you UP. I have been burned before when a guy showed ISG pics I posted to the girl. My advice, give the member some time to post a reply and defend his actions. If he refuses to reply post his name only as a last resort, because to most of us posting his real name is a mortal sin.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot; 1272137]So I have been willing to share info and meet fellow ISGers.

Now it seems 1 of our own has told my GF about this site and my handle here!

What is the protocol in this situation?

I am tempted to call him out by name.

What say you all?

WR please weigh in.[/QUOTE]Take no prisoners if she is your life partner! If someone fucks with my family, I will make him or her feel my pain severely. If it is "just another girlfriend" that was affected, you should perhaps just let go of the hot coal.

Your reaction should of course relate to your loss. No protocol can explain what you need to do. Forget pride and ask yourself if he really harmed you or if he did you a favor?

B.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1246254]I must be the 1 percent. These are all mall pickups (well, they picked me up). I liiiiiiike Cebu.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sxxxx;1270957]Two of the four photo's are tourist photo's. No indication they ever went your bedroom.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1271304]I was trying to keep Westy up to his usual hard core form.

Even so, newbies should know, you can meet and take pics of girls in Malls, but that does not necessarily mean photographer, or yourself, will make it to the bedroom with them. Hardcore evidence is expected of Westy. He failed me. Myself too shy to take pics, depend on folks like Westy to show me what the brave hearts get up to.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Westcoast1;1272321]Sxxxx, apology. I missed this post before. I'd be interested to know (thru PM please) where you found those tourist photos (all of them belong to me). In the original post of 4 pics, the girl in my room was obviously in my room. But of the two in yellow shirts, here is at least one of them with me (a hard drive problem, I lost most of the rest in '10). For the other two girls in blue / pink, same (hard drive problem). As I didn't gift any of these originals to anyone, I'm curious as to how they got 'tourist'why. I do sometimes share pics in the email with others, but I usually watermark them.[/QUOTE]WC,

Am I missing something or are you? LOL, hmm. You originally posted the pics a few months ago on this thread, I included a link to your post below.

Sxxxx was making a very delayed comment about the subject matter of your pics. He originally questioned that your pics looked very "touristy" in nature because some were taken at Ayala and mused here that maybe you did not bang them silly. He later explained that he was just yanking your chain somewhat as he felt let down there was no following nude pics of the girls. No harm, no foul.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1246254#post1246254[/url]

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1272411]WC,

Am I missing something or are you? LOL, hmm. You originally posted the pics a few months ago on this thread, I included a link to your post below.

Sxxxx was making a very delayed comment about the subject matter of your pics. He originally questioned that your pics looked very "touristy" in nature because some were taken at Ayala and mused here that maybe you did not bang them silly. He later explained that he was just yanking your chain somewhat as he felt let down there was no following nude pics of the girls. No harm, no foul.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1246254#post1246254[/url][/QUOTE]Yes I went back and re-read the posts. My concern was that Sxxxx had found one or more of the pics on some tourist website, or FB.

[QUOTE=Bubba999;1272103]But I had to put in a lot of effort and give many free consultations (I am MD) so again effort vs reward was marginal.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the FR. Nothing like combining scuba diving with muff diving! Cebu is definitely not the place for a lazy monger. For another option, you should have hit a few of the nightclubs in Mango Square as many times it's easy pickings.

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has cum across this Tagged lady?

She says she is 19. Seems to dress well.

Any recommendations?

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1273501]Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has cum across this Tagged lady?

She says she is 19. Seems to dress well.

Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]That's Ms Dayne. I chat with her on yahoo chat and facebook on occasions. Send her a PM if your interested or just send her a message and she will give you her contact details.

She's supposedly got a aussie bf (in her facebook pics) and possibly a jap guy paying for her school fees.

[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1273851]That's Ms Dayne. I chat with her on yahoo chat and facebook on occasions. Send her a PM if your interested or just send her a message and she will give you her contact details.

She's supposedly got a aussie bf (in her facebook pics) and possibly a jap guy paying for her school fees.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mik hcmc. I have been in direct contact with her. Just wondering if anyone has any first had experience / recommendations about her.

I guess if she can manage two overseas boyfriends, she can easily manage a casual monger!

Happy hunting.

Just came from the Cebu office (going for an extention) was refused entry because I was wearing shorts, sorry if this is old news or a repeat. Trousers of course can be rented 100 peso

[QUOTE=Col Law;1274912]Just came from the Cebu office (going for an extention) was refused entry because I was wearing shorts, sorry if this is old news or a repeat. Trousers of course can be rented 100 peso[/QUOTE]They got me on that one too, but the trouser renters will accept 50P and maybe less if you haggle enough.

I am the person in question whom UP claims "outed" him to his gf. Please allow me to give my side of the story.

I'm not a very active member of this forum (2011 was my last login) and only learned about this when UP sent me a message on DateInAsia of all places. Last year UP, his gf and some other americans met up at ayala for my bday. After that we went for a small barhop together. UP and I are acquaintances and only met that one time. We've exchanged a dozen or so emails over the past year and a half.

Last week I ran into a buddy at Seattle's Best Coffee Ayala and he was sitting with two girls, one of the girls was UP's girlfriend. I joined them and she remembered me from last year but I didn't remember her. She said she always sees me at julianas with different girls. I've been here for 4 months and only been to julianas about 5 times, so for her to see me there all the time means she is the one there all the time. The sexy hostess at sumosam who I've liked for a year came up and talked to her. Realizing they were friends I asked to be introduced but the hostess was leaving so UP's gf and I exchanged #'s with the intent of txting me the hostess's number later.

While we were sitting together UP's gf was checking her YM, DIA, pinalove, and having an x rated discussion with a guy on facebook. UP was also Yming her and she told him she was with Blaze. UP acted like he didn't know me so I told her to message him "ISG ultrapilot". I didn't say he is a member of Internationalsexguide. Com and his screenname is ultrapilot, its a website about foreigners fucking filipinas and posting pics. I'm not stupid, I know the monger code and don't reveal sensitive information. There is no way she could know anything about ISG. Furthermore, if you do a google search for combinations of ISG, cebu, ultrapilot ultra pilot, or UP's real name, nothing at all comes up.

I realize now it was a mistake to even divulge that minimal amount of information to a filipina. And I've apologized several times to UP for this breach of protocol. However, for UP to claim that this is the reason for their breakup is a flat out lie. First of all, she told me she isn't UP's gf and she meets tons of foreigners. Her friend that was meeting my friend is a total working girl and has fucked another one of my friends since that meeting. Birds of a feather. She won't stop texting me and wants to meet one of my friends who came up to us at seattle's best. I gave her his number and he told me she texts him ten times a day wanting to meet. I have deleted her number and told her to stop texting me. She also begged me to give her 3000 and offered her iphone as collateral but I politely declined. She also claims that UP stopped paying tuition last year.

I could say a few more things but its not like I broke up a happy marriage here. UP fucks other girls and she fucks other guys. The one time I met UP he seemed like a cool guy but he definitely overreacted in this situation.

Blaze

[QUOTE=Col Law;1274912]Just came from the Cebu office (going for an extention) was refused entry because I was wearing shorts, sorry if this is old news or a repeat. Trousers of course can be rented 100 peso[/QUOTE]Yes, CL, I recall seeing a sign mentioning that in the office in Davao. Bottom line is they want to be treated with respect. I imagine that the same standards apply in all federal government offices. Just don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off because 'A little power can be a dangerous thing. '

[QUOTE=Col Law;1274912]Just came from the Cebu office (going for an extention) was refused entry because I was wearing shorts, sorry if this is old news or a repeat. Trousers of course can be rented 100 peso[/QUOTE]All Philippine Government offices in Cebu require long pants to enter. Immigration, NBI ect. Most Provincial offices also demand long pants or refuse entry such as the Capitol building, Cebu City hall. I think the only place I entered wearing shorts was Cebu City health office but as a general rule I wear long pants.

I was with my GF when we visited her university to pick up her diploma and she was wearing a sleeveless t-shirt. The guard refused entry so I took her to a nearby store and paid for a more acceptable shirt. So it's not only Government offices that have dress codes. When in doubt ditch the flip-flops, shorts and tshirt.

[QUOTE=Col Law;1274912]Just came from the Cebu office (going for an extention) was refused entry because I was wearing shorts, sorry if this is old news or a repeat. Trousers of course can be rented 100 peso[/QUOTE]LOL. It was about time. Whats up with western men and brown khaki shorts, sandals and white shirt and they think they could go anywhere they please. Its an eye sore guys. I'm seeing the same fashion statement all over Asia. I see them at Airports, Immigrations, Malls, hospitals, bars and just plain walking on the streets.

Dressing well is a mark of respect to other human beings. I understand the heat and humidity in Asia etc, but what about changing that "TYPICAL Westerner" look of Shorts and Sandals with socks. Yikesss. I agree, even Asians wear it, but not all the time and not certainly all of us.

I hope, they ban them from all places. Its an eye sore. Times change but seems like fashion doesn't for farangs. LOL

[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1275336]Dressing well is a mark of respect to other human beings.[/QUOTE]Starchild, you once again display what a fantasy castle you live in. I like the consequences of your fantasy world. It is respectful. Yet it is 100% pure imagination. Subjective fantasies. A bit like religion. Pure fantasies but still quite a nice outcome for the most parts. Like the Philippines as well. Nice but so f*cking distorted.

I dress well, even when I [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] the weak in the face, so gents please have my blessing to wear whatever the h*ll you wish. It is all just subjective opinions by people who grip every straw to make themselves (ourselves) fell better during this short and pathetic visit on earth. Dressing like redneck Joe will make it harder to score girls since they also live in a fantasy world, but deep inside we all know that the length of the cloth on your legs has nothing to do with anything.

Thank FSM (replace with whatever fantasy alpha male in the sky you believe in) we are more people seeing the (absence of) light every day:

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523[/url]

Barba

[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1275336]LOL. It was about time. Whats up with western men and brown khaki shorts, sandals and white shirt and they think they could go anywhere they please. Its an eye sore guys. I'm seeing the same fashion statement all over Asia. I see them at Airports, Immigrations, Malls, hospitals, bars and just plain walking on the streets.

Dressing well is a mark of respect to other human beings. I understand the heat and humidity in Asia etc, but what about changing that "TYPICAL Westerner" look of Shorts and Sandals with socks. Yikesss. I agree, even Asians wear it, but not all the time and not certainly all of us.

I hope, they ban them from all places. Its an eye sore. Times change but seems like fashion doesn't for farangs. LOL[/QUOTE]SC2012,

I prefer to wear cargo shorts t-shirt and flip flops when running around on days when the mercury levels are elevated and the sun is high in the sky. Summer is upon us in the Philippines, shorts and stylish flip flops are a must to avoid melting in jeans or long pants. I do not wear shorts and flip flops when going anywhere official or out to dinner in the evening.

I can agree that some guys look fugly in the way they dress, but to each there own. I guess some guys are lauging at me too from time to time so what goes around comes around. The guy would look funny and stick out if he was back in the west, but he is in the Philippines where westerners can and do wear anything. Atleast I have not seen many westerners sitting outside a carinderia, with there shirt rolled up to expose there jelly-belly drinking red horse.

I also think that other westerners can look at another westener and tell if that guy has money or is travelling on a budget (generally speaking). I find the local population has a harder time. They just see a foreigner and think we are all millionaries, but we can look at another foreigner and tell with just a glance they are budget backpackers travelling on the cheap or a retired guy on SS.

I do recall a discussion on ISG years ago about some special plaid pants that made me lmao. I vote to bring back the plaid a-la Ron Burgundy style! You stay classy Cebu. *big grin smiley*

[QUOTE=Barba; 1275392]Starchild, you once again display what a fantasy castle you live in. I like the consequences of your fantasy world. It is respectful. Yet it is 100% pure imagination. Subjective fantasies. A bit like religion. Pure fantasies but still quite a nice outcome for the most parts. Like the Philippines as well. Nice but so f*cking distorted.

I dress well, even when I [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] the weak in the face, so gents please have my blessing to wear whatever the h*ll you wish. It is all just subjective opinions by people who grip every straw to make themselves (ourselves) fell better during this short and pathetic visit on earth. Dressing like redneck Joe will make it harder to score girls since they also live in a fantasy world, but deep inside we all know that the length of the cloth on your legs has nothing to do with anything.

Thank FSM (replace with whatever fantasy alpha male in the sky you believe in) we are more people seeing the (absence of) light every day:

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523[/url]

Barba[/QUOTE]One of the most endearing talents of my good friend Barba is his ability wax philosophical over even mundane statements. I agree that, in terms of meeting of objective of scoring with multiple, nubile young things, one's dressing style probably doesn't matter. I've seen the archtypal shorts / dirty tee shirt / flip flop and beer belly types dragging around lovely young things. On the other hand, I tend to cringe when I encounter these types, since I agree that the way one dresses says something not only about his self-respect, but also about the respect he has for others. To see guys walking around in outfits I wouldn't even sleep in just turns me off and I tend to avoid venues that would attract the badly dressed. It's a personal preference, but a strong one.

GE

And have offered apology and consider this hatchet buried.

Sent PMs here in an effort to clarify but got no response so I tried DIA.

Drinks on me if anyone cares to join.

[QUOTE=Blazepontaine; 1275011]I am the person in question whom UP claims "outed" him to his gf. Please allow me to give my side of the story.

I'm not a very active member of this forum (2011 was my last login) and only learned about this when UP sent me a message on DateInAsia of all places. Last year UP, his gf and some other americans met up at ayala for my bday. After that we went for a small barhop together. UP and I are acquaintances and only met that one time. We've exchanged a dozen or so emails over the past year and a half.

Last week I ran into a buddy at Seattle's Best Coffee Ayala and he was sitting with two girls, one of the girls was UP's girlfriend. I joined them and she remembered me from last year but I didn't remember her. She said she always sees me at julianas with different girls. I've been here for 4 months and only been to julianas about 5 times, so for her to see me there all the time means she is the one there all the time. The sexy hostess at sumosam who I've liked for a year came up and talked to her. Realizing they were friends I asked to be introduced but the hostess was leaving so UP's gf and I exchanged #'s with the intent of txting me the hostess's number later.

While we were sitting together UP's gf was checking her YM, DIA, pinalove, and having an x rated discussion with a guy on facebook. UP was also Yming her and she told him she was with Blaze. UP acted like he didn't know me so I told her to message him "ISG ultrapilot". I didn't say he is a member of Internationalsexguide. Com and his screenname is ultrapilot, its a website about foreigners fucking filipinas and posting pics. I'm not stupid, I know the monger code and don't reveal sensitive information. There is no way she could know anything about ISG. Furthermore, if you do a google search for combinations of ISG, cebu, ultrapilot ultra pilot, or UP's real name, nothing at all comes up.

I realize now it was a mistake to even divulge that minimal amount of information to a filipina. And I've apologized several times to UP for this breach of protocol. However, for UP to claim that this is the reason for their breakup is a flat out lie. First of all, she told me she isn't UP's gf and she meets tons of foreigners. Her friend that was meeting my friend is a total working girl and has fucked another one of my friends since that meeting. Birds of a feather. She won't stop texting me and wants to meet one of my friends who came up to us at seattle's best. I gave her his number and he told me she texts him ten times a day wanting to meet. I have deleted her number and told her to stop texting me. She also begged me to give her 3000 and offered her iphone as collateral but I politely declined. She also claims that UP stopped paying tuition last year.

I could say a few more things but its not like I broke up a happy marriage here. UP fucks other girls and she fucks other guys. The one time I met UP he seemed like a cool guy but he definitely overreacted in this situation.

Blaze[/QUOTE]

Didn't mean to imply she was my life partner but I have been helping her in no small way to get through college.

Gather she had numerous reasons to want to be rid of me but it didn't help in the heat of our discussions to hear her mention my ISG handle.

How much of it she put together I am unsure, at the time it seemed like a biggie, in my 20/20 hindsight maybe not so.

Have extended an olive branch to Blaze and harbor no ill will.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Barba; 1272383]Take no prisoners if she is your life partner! If someone fucks with my family, I will make him or her feel my pain severely. If it is "just another girlfriend" that was affected, you should perhaps just let go of the hot coal.

Your reaction should of course relate to your loss. No protocol can explain what you need to do. Forget pride and ask yourself if he really harmed you or if he did you a favor?

B.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Col Law;1274912]Just came from the Cebu office (going for an extention) was refused entry because I was wearing shorts, sorry if this is old news or a repeat. Trousers of course can be rented 100 peso[/QUOTE]I only ever put up my episode at the immigration office in the first place so that others do not make the same mistake as I did, but others wish to pass comment on the dress code or non that some people follow, how shallow people can get is beyond my reasoning. To me the only time to worry about dress code, is if you get refused entry as I did, clothes do not maketh the man no matter what country your in. It may seem stupid the girls always say my wallet is sexy I do not know what they mean

Have access to the lounges at Radisson and Marriott so perhaps we can have a get together.

Location dependent upon the day. Mid days are best for me.

I have some champagne and lounge drinks.

Marriott on weekends has decent snacks too.

Any takers PM

[QUOTE=Barba; 1275392]Starchild, you once again display what a fantasy castle you live in. I like the consequences of your fantasy world. It is respectful. Yet it is 100% pure imagination. Subjective fantasies. A bit like religion. Pure fantasies but still quite a nice outcome for the most parts. Like the Philippines as well. Nice but so f*cking distorted.

I dress well, even when I [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] the weak in the face, so gents please have my blessing to wear whatever the h*ll you wish. It is all just subjective opinions by people who grip every straw to make themselves (ourselves) fell better during this short and pathetic visit on earth. Dressing like redneck Joe will make it harder to score girls since they also live in a fantasy world, but deep inside we all know that the length of the cloth on your legs has nothing to do with anything.

Thank FSM (replace with whatever fantasy alpha male in the sky you believe in) we are more people seeing the (absence of) light every day:

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523[/url]

Barba[/QUOTE]Did I hit the nerve somewhere barba. LOL. You are making it too complicated than it has to be man. Whats wrong with dressing well and moving on with times. As GE and SA mentioned. These types have become too common in Asia now. Nothing personal.

Being from India, I came to know, South East Asians, Farangs and no one likes our curry smell. I thought its natural whats wroung with it. Spices and curries are good for health. My ego got the better of me. But my 5000 years of cultural history was wroung. I made effort to correct it and everyone was happy.

I make an effort to not smell curry at all. So that others don't get annoyed of my smell. You probably never heard people complain in Asia about the dress of farangs. Because, here people are too passive to judge or make negative comments mostly.

No matter how poor a Filipino is. He always tries to dress well and make an effort not to smell at all. Its easier this way in metro's and in malls. If there was nothing wrong it, the immigration office would not have banned shorts. I went further and in good faith. Just pointed out the obvious which never was mentioned here.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1275596]SC2012,

I prefer to wear cargo shorts t-shirt and flip flops when running around on days when the mercury levels are elevated and the sun is high in the sky. Summer is upon us in the Philippines, shorts and stylish flip flops are a must to avoid melting in jeans or long pants. I do not wear shorts and flip flops when going anywhere official or out to dinner in the evening.

I can agree that some guys look fugly in the way they dress, but to each there own. I guess some guys are lauging at me too from time to time so what goes around comes around. The guy would look funny and stick out if he was back in the west, but he is in the Philippines where westerners can and do wear anything. Atleast I have not seen many westerners sitting outside a carinderia, with there shirt rolled up to expose there jelly-belly drinking red horse.

I also think that other westerners can look at another westener and tell if that guy has money or is travelling on a budget (generally speaking). I find the local population has a harder time. They just see a foreigner and think we are all millionaries, but we can look at another foreigner and tell with just a glance they are budget backpackers travelling on the cheap or a retired guy on SS.

I do recall a discussion on ISG years ago about some special plaid pants that made me lmao. I vote to bring back the plaid a-la Ron Burgundy style! You stay classy Cebu. *big grin smiley*[/QUOTE]I agree. Can you imagine if 100 Indians came up with that attitude in Cebu and said. To hell with it, its my money. I don't care what they think about my smell. I'm going to do whatever I feel like doing. Half of the cebu will be empty with an epidemic sign of smelly plague. Not saying all Indians are changing. But with comments from Farangs, filipinos about our smell. Most of the Indians are changing.

We in India think its ok with our curry smell as have our 5000 years of curry smelling was no issue. However, when we went out, we realized its a big problem for others. There are now big debates in India about smell and the use of deodorant in our society.

Its just an impartial observation about farangs dress and the reason, they got banned in immigration. Obviously there was some issue. I did not ever read any Indian going bonkers about smelly indian comment here. We learned and move on. I tell every Indian who ask my advice on visit to PH. To take care of our smell and bring in expensive deo's etc.

I don't want anyone to suffer because of my hygiene, if I go to any filipinos birthday party, I dress well, 'because I don't want him to feel embarrassed about me around his other friends thinking. What kind of smelly badly dressed Indian friend you have.

When in Rome.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1275602]scoring with multiple, nubile young things, one's dressing style probably doesn't matter. I've seen the archtypal shorts / dirty tee shirt / flip flop and beer belly types dragging around lovely young things.

GE[/QUOTE]GE.

Are you referring to me. (why are there no smileys!) But I smell nice, speak well and look like Brad Pitt so that also helps regardless of dress code and why I drag a few lovely things around LOL.

But in some places I have been the dirty vest, unshaven and smelly westerner is not for me either. And I agree you can tell a man by his dress even if is the above

[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1275779]Did I hit the nerve somewhere barba. LOL. You are making it too complicated than it has to be man. Whats wrong with dressing well and moving on with times. As GE and SA mentioned. These types have become too common in Asia now. Nothing personal.[/QUOTE]Sure it hits a nerve, but if it I need to explain what nerve it hits, I will just let it rest for now. Blink. I just want to urge you to consider what true respect for a mans or womans freedom of choice really is. Conformity to majority? Fantasies about what to show or not to show? I know I am just agitating now, but the topic interests me. Fantasies of mankind. Burkas and long dresses. Evolution will sort them out. Religion will die.

Nothing wrong with dressing in long pants (or what you might refer to as "well"). But it just has nothing to do with respect or disrespect. Some people just likes shorts, and if that is perceived as disrespectful, it is just in the head of the viewer. If a smell is bad, it will require isolation the one that smells bad and can be considered disrespectful, even thought it most likely is just thoughtless. Koreans fart in my elevator all the time. Or burp. Or both. Clothes will not require distance to avoid an immediate discomfort.

I normally wear shorts only when I am in water. Most days I dress for business, but this is since I travel light and must carry these clothes anyway. It also attracts pussy, because females are lazy and shallow. It is like a signboard saying "choose me, I have money that you can get without working anything but your little beaver". When I am an old, fat alcoholic I will also dress in shorts and shirts with flowers that match my red and swollen face. And I will sit next to you, Starchild and smell your curry, while we discuss all the pianys we liked and loved. LOL.

Barba

[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot;1275714]Have extended an olive branch to Blaze and harbor no ill will.[/QUOTE]Bros before hoes.

B.

BTW Where can I buy Cialis / Maca in Philippines? Specifically in Manila.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Fralalala; 1277997]BTW Where can I buy Cialis / Maca in Philippines? Specifically in Manila.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]This is the Cebu section, please post your question in the Manila section. If you can't find the Manila section don't worry, just ask the immigration officer upon landing at NAIA or MCIA if they have any Cialis for sale. If you get no reply, ask the customs officer and they will provide you with [b][i]SOMETHING[/i][/b]. *wink smiley*

In Cebu fake Vitamin C and V can be bought from touts around fuente osmena. Up to you to make a deal on price. The only time I bought from the street was back in 2009 and it did NOT work. You can buy the real thing from mercury drugs or some other pharmacy but it will be more expensive. Try the mercury drug location on the corner of fuente circle and Mango.

Enjoy the Philippines.

Frenzy, just wanted to thank you here in public for an enjoyable evening. I learned a lot. Enjoyed seeing how you pulled it all off. Also the neiborhoods. The girl who walked me out would not even let me buy her a pop. She is everything you said. I can say it is not the life I would want. But it was good for me to see it. Thanks again. I stayed pretty much with the same girl the whole time there. Went out one night alone to Mango sq. And went to Qeensland in Guadalupe for an hour. Then went to the old silver dolllar and went to Q, again for about two hours. Two girls. Mamasan at the old silver dollar seemed straight up and honest. I have found asking their advice and following thier recomendations have workded out well for me in the RP scene.

Missed You David and WR. Would have loved to buy you guys whatever.

Rented a car. In cebu this is a hard thing to do. Drove up the coast in the north. Went to Coco palms in Danao for two nights. They are adding 25 new rooms and the ocean is clean there. Then went up to Bogo and San Regim for three nights. Nice hotel out in the middle of nowhere. And drove back down the west coast and across the mountians to cebu. Lots of construction on the west coast road. Saw the country side and know that is not for me. I am a city boy. Went to my A / A meetings at the redemporist church. Keep me grounded and went to mass their on Sunday also.

Well, I have been burned out before and am sure I will fall back into my old desirers again. But I did a lot of thinking and site seeing this last trip. And feel different about RP. It is one dirt poor country. The hospital system is a mess. But have been told a few of the private are good. Wish you could own land and house. I guess I would allways be a renter. So would not build a tool shed or stuff to do in my old age. Knowing I could not leave it to my kids. I am still on this journey called life. Want to find happiness. But know it is fleeting. Thanks for all the input from you guys over the years. Sorry but the girl would not allow pictures. I did try. She cryed and so I gave up. Would not even allow me to use the butt plugs I brought. So no anal. But she does seem to like to suck dick, Just not CIM. Makes you wonder what you are paying for. You all know the steady ones cost less than wifes but more than bar girls, RIGHT. God bless. RED

Hello again gentlemen,

I propose this question to those who live in cebu and ajoining area. Are there any hotels that offer club membership? I think there are a few golf clubs but I not play golf but would join is it gave me access to their facilities, for example, when there was a cebu plaza I bought a sports club membership. Nothing to do with staying at the hotel. I could come use their swimming pools anytime. Discount at their mini golf, and shooting range. I stayed in an apartelle near cebu plaza and could walk to the "old" cebu plaza to enjoy the day. A club membership is worth it if one visits cebu often. I go back to the days where there was one bridge connecting mactan to cebu proper. I miss the old magellan hotel that had a nice pool.

I miss the "balls" club that was own by the ruieller family. The pawnshop king. My spelling is off. French name. The only things that have really changed is more people and higher prices but cebu still better than manila every day of the week.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1278711]Hello again gentlemen,

I propose this question to those who live in cebu and ajoining area. Are there any hotels that offer club membership? I think there are a few golf clubs but I not play golf but would join is it gave me access to their facilities, for example, when there was a cebu plaza I bought a sports club membership. Nothing to do with staying at the hotel. I could come use their swimming pools anytime. Discount at their mini golf, and shooting range. I stayed in an apartelle near cebu plaza and could walk to the "old" cebu plaza to enjoy the day. A club membership is worth it if one visits cebu often. I go back to the days where there was one bridge connecting mactan to cebu proper. I miss the old magellan hotel that had a nice pool.[/QUOTE]The only place I know that's located right in Cebu City is the Cebu City Golf and Country Club. I think you can get a social membership or non-golf membership but it will be very pricy. They have a pool, tennis courts and a barber. I posted about it on the "Cebu Golf Courses" thread if you want to read the info.

[quote]I miss the "balls" club that was own by the ruieller family. The pawnshop king. My spelling is off. French name. The only things that have really changed is more people and higher prices but cebu still better than manila every day of the week.[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about the "balls club" as you put it, LOL first time I have heard the name. Not sure if its an old twist on a 'teabag' theme or it was a sports related place.

The clan that owns all the pawnshops is the L'huillier family. The head of the family has a big mansion up on Monterrazas de Cebu sub-division over looking Parklane. It has an elevator built in along with other plunder and riches. LOL.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1278711]

[QUOTE=MangoBob68;1278711]I miss the "balls" club that was own by the ruieller family. The pawnshop king. My spelling is off. French name. The only things that have really changed is more people and higher prices but cebu still better than manila every day of the week.[/QUOTE]The newbies wouldn't know the Balls Club on Mango Avenue. Many years ago, history, some time ago now. Balls was intended for upmarket Filipino ladies and gents. Never really got going. Balls as in Soccer, son of L'huillier founder, and a soccer fanatic, owned the place. It didn't last all that long. Don't get your balls tied in knots over that one, ancient history now.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1278711]Hello again gentlemen,

I propose this question to those who live in cebu and ajoining area. Are there any hotels that offer club membership? I think there are a few golf clubs but I not play golf but would join is it gave me access to their facilities, for example, when there was a cebu plaza I bought a sports club membership. Nothing to do with staying at the hotel. I could come use their swimming pools anytime.[/QUOTE]Waterfront Lahug offers a membership for their excellent fitness center and swimming pools. You can also buy a day pass as well. There is also a place called the Sandtrap that has a pool, tennis courts, bar and restaurant with no membership fee. It recently changed hands so it will be interesting to see improvements if any.

I just read your replies. Appreciate the information. I will look into the waterfront and the sandtrap when I get to cebu. Plus the day pass sounds probably the best way to go. I was just reliving past good memory. I not know about the rest of you. But I got to have a swimming pool near by to survive in the Philippines. A great day is sitting pool side in the shade with a mango shake, fruit platter, listening to good musica + a hot chicka babe who doesn't need pads in her bra to look 36B. I will share. Probably the only good bola bola pick up line I have that makes the girls smile. Compare "her" smile or hair or lips to a filipina pop singer. Example: your smile is like Rachelle Go, or your hair reminds me of Sherlyn Regis or your dark beautiful brown skin is like Pops fernandez.

Trust me the girls love it. They will laugh and smile and thank you. Good lead in. No I do not know these pop singers. I looked up pinoy entertainment. Search pop singers and looked at some photos and took it from there. Earlier some were talking about competition. So to stand out from the other guys. Use some humor. You know the filipinas love love musica. Use it to your advantage.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1279562]Probably the only good bola bola pick up line I have that makes the girls smile. Compare "her" smile or hair or lips to a filipina pop singer. Example: your smile is like Rachelle Go, or your hair reminds me of Sherlyn Regis or your dark beautiful brown skin is like Pops fernandez.

Trust me the girls love it. They will laugh and smile and thank you. Good lead in. No I do not know these pop singers. I looked up pinoy entertainment. Search pop singers and looked at some photos and took it from there. Earlier some were talking about competition. So to stand out from the other guys. Use some humor. You know the filipinas love love musica. Use it to your advantage.[/QUOTE]I once told a cashier that she looked like Judy Ann Santos.I really thought she did. She lit up, and it was an instant opportunity that I could have followed up on had I not already had a girlfriend at the time. A compliment like this that involves flattery as well as some knowledge of the culture is golden.

[QUOTE=SergeantRay;1280243]I once told a cashier that she looked like Judy Ann Santos.I really thought she did. She lit up, and it was an instant opportunity that I could have followed up on had I not already had a girlfriend at the time. A compliment like this that involves flattery as well as some knowledge of the culture is golden.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Knowing what's going on within the Philippines in terms of news, gossip and celebrities will make it alot easier to understand some of the inside jokes.

One word of caution when complementing a filipina that she looks like a star can backfire. I once told a woman she had a nice smile just like 'Anne Curtis'. The complement did not go over well. The woman frowned and said "you think I have a big mouth? You think I talk too much?" She was not impressed because to some locals Anne Curtis is seen as having a big mouth on a small frame. LOL. My bad.

Overall complementing a filipina on her looks or comparing her to a filipina star works 9 times out of 10 and as others have observed it can help to break the ice and start a conversation.

Enjoy Cebu.

Starting June 4th there will be a series of lane closures on the Marcelo Fernan bridge, better know as the 'new bridge' for repairs. Seems the expansion joints have to be replaced. The work is scheduled to take 88 days, but chances are high the work will take longer. One lane (out of the four) will be closed at a time for the work. Expect increased traffic delays going to or coming from Mactan.

hello,

it almost seems like, if you want to meet girls from dia cebu is a better place to travel to.

how easy is it to get these girls in cebu to meet up and have some fun without to much hassel?

like getting [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] accusations on you etc?

and how far and how much does a flight cost from manila?

Been trying the Baseline tennis club w / some friends.

Taxi drivers seem to know it and rather close to Ayala.

Not sure exact prices since my buddy was paying but I think in the neighborhood of 500p for 2 hrs which included some equipment for the girls and a quite capable ball boy.

Tennis isn't really my cup of tea but its a nice way to work off the afternoon tea & scones at the Marriott Executive Lounge which is a new and welcome addition there, albeit prices keep climbing there.

As I am a fool for things that fly also found some good frisbee leads.

As usual PM for details. Enjoy

Have been of the opinion that props are for boats for the last quarter century however I am working on a checkout in a small single engine plane out of Mactan.

So after 20 yrs in jets the prop had me smiling. Very special treat for a date w / the potential for some inter island treks.

If you have some interest in piloting its the sort of thing 2 can do for not much more $ than 1.

I am not looking to make money but can be priceyat$100usd / hr depending.

PM if you are into that sort of thing. Happy trails

[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot;1283090]nice way to work off the afternoon tea & scones[/QUOTE]I thought I was the only one eating those scones. No one else seemed interested when I was there except for Wicked Roger. The girls in the lounge didn't have much of a clue and called them "stones" due to texture I suppose. They also had them at the J. W. In Jakarta. Maybe they are Asian wide.

Intended to let this die but have been urged by a few to air this episode.

Could easily be a top ten list but consider the following.

Have met some interesting guys from this board and some I consider friends.

It was my befriending effort that led to my meeting blaze for his be'day gathering last yr and I had a college student w / me as my date that I had been on my scholarship program since 2009.

1.) For some reason when he met her at a later time he thought it would somehow be amusing to divulge my ISG handle to her, sorry I didn't find it amusing.

2.) Blaze assured me he would "NEVER" fuck a girl that was known to be linked to another guy.

Upon examination of his txts to her I would describe his pursuit of her as semi relentless but in any event he did fuck her.

But in his defense he did poney up jeepny fare to offset the abject poverty that has been her life.

3.) I have to chuckle at his facebook page under the same Blaze Pontaine pseudonym, whereby he subscribes to the teachings of Jesus.

Guess his calling me an asshole during my attempt to determine his motivations in PMs was from the Old Testament.

I would encourage WR & Frenzy33 to make our common female friends aware of his generosity.

Any curious if you know or have seen him might have a look at his DIA, Blaze in Cebu, then proceed with caution should you encounter him.

Gentlemen feel free to flame me, but please don't Blaze me! Rant over

[QUOTE=David_33;1283093]I thought I was the only one eating those scones. No one else seemed interested when I was there except for Wicked Roger. The girls in the lounge didn't have much of a clue and called them "stones" due to texture I suppose. They also had them at the J. W. In Jakarta. Maybe they are Asian wide.[/QUOTE]David. Scones are so English hence we like them with clotted cream and lashings of strawberry jam. I appreciate Americans find it hard to appreciate them given that many think Mexican food such as burritos etc is actually edible. Where are the smileys as there would be a lot here at this moment (David. Did you mention this to J?)

But is it a nice addition and whenever am invited to the lounge I hope the scones are there as I am the only to eat them.

Could have been a top 10 list but I digress.

Wanted to let this die but have been encouraged to air my grievance.

Recap. Had an opportunity to join Blaze be'day party bar hop last yr. Took my date that has been on my scholarship plan since 2009.

1.) Somehow he thought it would be amusing to divulge my ISG handle to this young woman at a recent meeting they had, excuse me if I didn't see the humor.

2.) Blaze assured me he would "NEVER" fuck any girl associated with a foreigner he knew. But alas judging by the txts he sent her I would describe as semi-relentless he succeeded in fucking her. Congrats to him. And lucky her came away w / a reported 200p.

3.) Had to chuckle after trying to determine his motivations thru PMs that he found it necessary to call me an asshole which given his facebook page, listed under the same pseudonym, claiming his subscribing to the teachings of Jesus left me wondering what the hell?

For WR, Frenzy33 & those who we share so many mutual female friends you might consider having these girls check out his DIA profile Blaze in Cebu so they may be aware of the riches that await them should they allow him to bed them. Proceed w / caution friends. Rant over.

[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot; 1283222]2.) Blaze assured me he would "NEVER" fuck any girl associated with a foreigner he knew. But alas judging by the txts he sent her I would describe as semi-relentless he succeeded in fucking her. Congrats to him. And lucky her came away w / a reported 200p.

3.) Had to chuckle after trying to determine his motivations thru PMs that he found it necessary to call me an asshole which given his facebook page, listed under the same pseudonym, claiming his subscribing to the teachings of Jesus left me wondering what the hell?[/QUOTE]200 pesos is cheap charlie rates Blaze if what UP says is true (easy to find out I can make a few calls). And not Christain either. Seems you take the Lord's word in vain. The 200 pesos would not even cover a taxi fare if the girl had come from Toldeo etc to see you.

Time to check out FB. Thanks UP for the handle information, it will be a fun evening after all.

(Jackson. Please can we have the smileys back? I would have used plenty in this FR)

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1283162]David. Scones are so English hence we like them with clotted cream and lashings of strawberry jam. I appreciate Americans find it hard to appreciate them given that many think Mexican food such as burritos etc is actually edible. Where are the smileys as there would be a lot here at this moment (David. Did you mention this to J?)

But is it a nice addition and whenever am invited to the lounge I hope the scones are there as I am the only to eat them.[/QUOTE]WR, it seems you've forgotten much of the culinary education I've tried to impart to you over the years, so let me explain. Americans tend to like burritos and other Mexican foods because they contain something we in the US (and much of continental Europe) call "spices." Because of the spices, these foods have something we call "taste." I realize, as a devotee of such English delicacies as scones and beans on toast, taste is a thoroughly unfamiliar concept to you, but I will personallly take it upon myself to introduce you to "food with taste" the next time you venture to Davao. Of course, we'll stock up on beans and plain white bread in case you find the spices indigestible. After all, what are friends for?

GE

I don't like the idea of putting another members DIA and Facebook info on the site. It's just classless.

Is it worse than divulging the ISG handle to a girl I was supporting?

Promising me he would never fuck any girl I introduce him to but then come to learn he did fuck her?

Did my best to resolve this w / him by PMS.

And given his FB is quite private its not as if I posted his name and address.

But I accept your opinion, please tell me how I might better have handled this?

Regards[QUOTE=Bob Bowie;1283696]I don't like the idea of putting another members DIA and Facebook info on the site. It's just classless.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1283513]WR, it seems you've forgotten much of the culinary education I've tried to impart to you over the years, so let me explain. Americans tend to like burritos and other Mexican foods because they contain something we in the US (and much of continental Europe) call "spices." Because of the spices, these foods have something we call "taste." I realize, as a devotee of such English delicacies as scones and beans on toast, taste is a thoroughly unfamiliar concept to you, but I will personallly take it upon myself to introduce you to "food with taste" the next time you venture to Davao. Of course, we'll stock up on beans and plain white bread in case you find the spices indigestible. After all, what are friends for?

GE[/QUOTE]LOL

Thanks for reminding me GE.

Make sure you stock up real cuisine when I visit (smiley here) so don't forget the baked beans (Heinz is best) , sauages (ie bangers) , mash potatoes, peas (mushy as well) plus toad in the hole (I will explain the delights of that when we meet!) , and good wholesome puddings such as spotted dick (again that may need an explanation!) , bread and butter pudding and semolina with lashings of jam in the middle. And don't forget the custard.

Perhaps we canb find that someone in Davao? See you soon

[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot; 1283710]Is it worse than divulging the ISG handle to a girl I was supporting?

Promising me he would never fuck any girl I introduce him to but then come to learn he did fuck her?

Did my best to resolve this w / him by PMS.

And given his FB is quite private its not as if I posted his name and address.

But I accept your opinion, please tell me how I might better have handled this?

Regards[/QUOTE]If he did that it is reprehensible. On the other hand, why would you trust another monger around your girl? How much was this monger's word worth to you? Mongers betray each other over women all the time. Mongering is not a team sport. Introducing girlfriends to other mongers is just begging for this kind of trouble.

Have never had an issue w / this prior to this incident. Have been willing to share contact info and given many leads w / o incident. Perhaps I have been unaware or overly lucky but your point is well taken. Call me naive but apparently the code I assumed in place more nearly a guideline.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1283914]If he did that it is reprehensible. On the other hand, why would you trust another monger around your girl? How much was this monger's word worth to you? Mongers betray each other over women all the time. Mongering is not a team sport. Introducing girlfriends to other mongers is just begging for this kind of trouble.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1283914]If he did that it is reprehensible. On the other hand, why would you trust another monger around your girl? How much was this monger's word worth to you? Mongers betray each other over women all the time. Mongering is not a team sport. Introducing girlfriends to other mongers is just begging for this kind of trouble.[/QUOTE]Hey I trust my girls around other guys from this forum, but I would hope the guy told me if they knew the girl was lying we as men should stick together, finding out a girl is lying helps other men, finding out a is guy lying helping the women to lie needs to be told, so to me the guy in question must be named and shamed as he is a little girl,

[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot; 1283710]Is it worse than divulging the ISG handle to a girl I was supporting?

Promising me he would never fuck any girl I introduce him to but then come to learn he did fuck her?

Did my best to resolve this w / him by PMS.

And given his FB is quite private its not as if I posted his name and address.

But I accept your opinion, please tell me how I might better have handled this?

Regards[/QUOTE]UP, I am not defending the guys action. I don't like people giving out info on a board like this. It starts a bad precedent.

You have to draw the line somewhere. With the info you have anyone could find his DIA account and Facebook information.

Some lurker could contact all of his friends and make up stories about him, it could ruin his relatinships with family members, friends and co-workers.

I understand there was an interesting turn of events between two mongers on this site regarding bangN one of our fellows mongers pinay attachment. Granted it is unsportsmen like to invade another mongers territory without his permission and in No way is it necessary or right to go after a friend's girl, there are just too many to choose from. With that said I think Blaze did you a favor. You found out how far your girl's loyalty stretch's and you learn a very valuable lesson. If you want to keep your pinay girlfriend Relatively faithful then marry her but understand that as long as there is this distance between you too, then she is going to to fuck others that's just a fact. I have a pinay that I have a great relationship with I can call it a friendship I informed her that if things change for me than I might even marry her, I told her this knowing that she has a pinoy boyfriend and even if we are engage she going to fuck others. We have a realistic understanding. So if you really care for this girl forgive her, she's only human if was just sex, she may very well love you. Men have to get off this caveman fantasy about the Asian women, western culture dominates this world, she watch's soap operas and Twilight about love triangles. These women are not saints just a tad bit better than western women. I grew up around a pimp and he told me that in order to do what he does and be successful that you have to truly care for the woman your exploiting and treat everyone as a girlfriend and most importantly you have to Recondition yourself and accept that she is fuckN others. That's something the average man can't understand or handle. So, in conclusion there is no need to be vindictive towards another monger or to expose him publicly that is a greater offense than the one he committed. Recondition yourself and accept the realty.

[QUOTE=Jbiz979;1284077]I understand there was an interesting turn of events between two mongers on this site regarding bangN one of our fellows mongers pinay attachment. Granted it is unsportsmen like to invade another mongers territory without his permission and in No way is it necessary or right to go after a friend's girl, there are just too many to choose from. With that said.[/QUOTE]Why give a girl, another members ISG Handle other then to undermine his (UP) credibility in the girls eyes, and to enhance ones own. I bet it was not with moral indignation. Perhaps some mongers do not have no morals where sex is concerned, but I know I would be pissed off if any of my lady friends found out about this board and some of my inputs. A sure way to close the board down with its networking and understanding amongst some members.

[QUOTE=Col Law;1284088]Why give a girl, another members ISG Handle other then to undermine his (UP) credibility in the girls eyes, and to enhance ones own. I bet it was not with moral indignation. Perhaps some mongers do not have no morals where sex is concerned, but I know I would be pissed off if any of my lady friends found out about this board and some of my inputs. A sure way to close the board down with its networking and understanding amongst some members.[/QUOTE]Your 100% correct I'm not defending Blaze's actions. There cowardly and unmanly. I just wanted our fellow monger to take a lesson from it.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1283997]Hey I trust my girls around other guys from this forum, but I would hope the guy told me if they knew the girl was lying we as men should stick together, finding out a girl is lying helps other men, finding out a is guy lying helping the women to lie needs to be told, so to me the guy in question must be named and shamed as he is a little girl,[/QUOTE]You would trust Prison Break after he tried to sex your girls?

By the way, I still have a few girls getting in touch with me on one of the chat sites, even though I have left Cebu. One has impressed me; seems authentic, is cute (have seen her on webcam, nothing naughty) , and is a student who just turned 18. Appears to just be really horny, and not overly interested in money just wants to meet a nice clean foreigner. PM me if you want contact information and are in Cebu or arriving soon. However she seems innocent and I will try not to send any of the ISG undesirables her way.

[QUOTE=David_33;1284625]However she seems innocent and I will try not to send any of the ISG undesirables her way.[/QUOTE]And there are plenty of those.

Is she shaved? Best mention that to her David. You know it makes sense LOL. Maybe I should take a quick break following my rehab? Need to get my nose into something sweet LOL

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1284634]Is she shaved?[/QUOTE]I hope not, and since I am looking forward to meeting her in a few months when I get back, I will try to make sure that she doesn't end up looking like one of your plucked chickens.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1284557]You would trust Prison Break after he tried to sex your girls?[/QUOTE]Hehe that why I trust my girls, they asked me why the guy was trying to chat them on FB, I would not help him now, and we have a saying for guys like him I would not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on him if he was on fire.

[QUOTE=David_33;1284635]I hope not, and since I am looking forward to meeting her in a few months when I get back, I will try to make sure that she doesn't end up looking like one of your plucked chickens.[/QUOTE]LOL.

Well she can grow it back when you old fashioned neanderthals arrive in Cebu LOL. Before then she will be 'educated' on the merits of using a razor. Maybe laser treatment David? LOL. We really need the smileys back

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1285298]LOL.

Well she can grow it back when you old fashioned neanderthals arrive in Cebu LOL. Before then she will be 'educated' on the merits of using a razor. Maybe laser treatment David? LOL. We really need the smileys back[/QUOTE]Using razor hey end up more scratchy, get them to wax or leave it natural. Hehe.

David just send her my way and her pussy will never get used. Is she the size of my mary jane?

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1285343]Using razor hey end up more scratchy, get them to wax or leave it natural. Hehe.

David just send her my way and her pussy will never get used. Is she the size of my mary jane?[/QUOTE]Natural = smoothe as a baby's bottom LOL David knows this just hates to admit it.

As for letting her see your girls Frenzy, she will end up prefering pussy to todger LOL

Just wanted to extend a warm and hearty thanks to Frenzy3 for taking the time to meet me.

We met for lunch the other day. Wound up hanging out for the rest of the afternoon talking about living and mongering in Cebu as well in the Philippines in general. As my ulterior motive for this trip is to get an idea about living here, Frenzy was gracious enough to invite me to his home to give me a better idea of the living conditions here and, I suspect, to show off his ladies too (insert big grin). Aside from being very beautiful, they're a great bunch of girls; they're all very intelligent and articulate young ladies. My hats off to you Frenzy and thanks again!

You have managed to disappear completely from the forum, including your PMs. Please get in touch with me, I have something of interest for you (nothing to do with the Blaze situation).

Went into a place called 'Salon Rose' (Ayala mall, across from Pizza Hut) for a haircut. After the buzz cut, the barber massaged my scalp, shoulders, upper arms and back. This lasted about 5-6 minutes and then he finished up washing off my face and scalp with a hot towel. Is getting this type of massage after a haircut a common practice here in the Phils? Or was that something unique to this salon?

All I can say is that I left there feeling very refreshed as well as with my hair high and tight – all for 100 pesos (plus a generous tip to the barber)!

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1285773]Went into a place called 'Salon Rose' (Ayala mall, across from Pizza Hut) for a haircut. After the buzz cut, the barber massaged my scalp, shoulders, upper arms and back. This lasted about 5-6 minutes and then he finished up washing off my face and scalp with a hot towel. Is getting this type of massage after a haircut a common practice here in the Phils? Or was that something unique to this salon?

All I can say is that I left there feeling very refreshed as well as with my hair high and tight – all for 100 pesos (plus a generous tip to the barber)![/QUOTE]Yes. It is common and a standard practice in most salon's in the PH. They wash your face with hot towel and suck your cut hair with a vacuum cleaner in the end. Which I never knew back home could be done hehehe. Plus they do a general massage on your head and shoulders all for 100 pesos

Hi guys,

Arrived in Cebu from Manila yesterday. Staying at Kiwi, but will relocate to Waterfront in a few days. I will be staying at least a week.

Yesterday I went to Mango Ave, and visited a few bars. Vikings and BJ (BG?) , and a few others. After Manila I must say it was a bit of a dissapointment. About 20-40 girls each place and 3-4 customers. Quiet as a grave. Is this normal or did I just come at a bad time? Or am I at the wrong places? Don't get me wrong, I was very happy with the number of girls. Just seemed like every bar was about to go to sleep.

Where to go if I want a livelier place?

If I want to play golf, any advice? Read that most clubs in the Phils are members only.

And any advice on daytime activities? Aside from hanging around the malls looking at the goodies (which I will be doing aplenty).

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Bongster; 1287820]Hi guys,

Arrived in Cebu from Manila yesterday. Staying at Kiwi, but will relocate to Waterfront in a few days. I will be staying at least a week.

Yesterday I went to Mango Ave, and visited a few bars. Vikings and BJ (BG?) , and a few others. After Manila I must say it was a bit of a dissapointment. About 20-40 girls each place and 3-4 customers. Quiet as a grave. Is this normal or did I just come at a bad time? Or am I at the wrong places? Don't get me wrong, I was very happy with the number of girls. Just seemed like every bar was about to go to sleep.

Where to go if I want a livelier place?

If I want to play golf, any advice? Read that most clubs in the Phils are members only.

And any advice on daytime activities? Aside from hanging around the malls looking at the goodies (which I will be doing aplenty).

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I have to ask, why wait until after you arrived in Cebu to ask questions instead of RTFF in advance and doing some of your own homework? Chances are good you will not even read the advice until after you have left Cebu, but I digress.

Bars. Cebu bars have been going downhill for awhile and if you want a good bar scene stay in Manila or go to AC. Having said that each bar is different and the number of customers will fluctuate from night-night and week-week. The hot dry summer weather ended recently in the Philippines and the start of the rainy season is here which means a smaller number of visitors.

Cebu is better known for non-pro GFE connections made online or through chance encounters while on the ground around CC. The bar scene in Cebu is for guys who have zero skill or no game in picking up filipinas or guys who want a sex for money evening without the headaches of a GF.

It's BG's not BJ's. Although a bar called BJ's might be a popular place. LOL.

If you are looking for a 'livelier place' I would head over to Julianas AKA "J-Ave" on Mango Saturday night. It's pay week in the Philipiines and there will be lots of filipinas around in need of a foreigner to buy them a tanduay ice or three. 100p entry fee includes one drink. Enjoy.

There's info posted on the 'Cebu Golf Courses' thread that deals with golf in and around Cebu. All you have to do is go read it.

Enjoy Cebu.

Bongster, red lips is always packed, but why you complain that the bars are empty with heaps of girls?

I like how guys come here and compare Cebu to x, WTF this is Cebu this place has some of the best looking girls in PI and you complain about punter numbers? Are you gay and need a white man?

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; ]but why you complain that the bars are empty with heaps of girls?
(--) and you complain about punter numbers? Are you gay and need a white man?[/QUOTE]Some guys might be shy and need to hide in the crowd. Or when only a few guys are around they become a target for too many (aggressive?) WG's

[QUOTE=Bongster; 1287820]Hi guys,

Yesterday I went to Mango Ave, and visited a few bars. Vikings and BJ (BG?) , and a few others. After Manila I must say it was a bit of a dissapointment. About 20-40 girls each place and 3-4 customers. Quiet as a grave. Is this normal or did I just come at a bad time? Or am I at the wrong places?[/QUOTE]I can't help with your golf question. But Mango Square doesn't get happening until well past 10:00pm. I was there during early evening and it was pretty dead. Me and my two female companions were the only people in a karaoke joint until about 8:30pm.

At around 1:00am, you can expect good sized crowds and random girls should solicit you, some following you.

In Cebu, you have to hit the dating websites. This city is not a mongering hotspot and you have to make an effort to uncover the gems. I see Cebu less as a sex destination but a social destination where you can meet lots of girls (but sex may or may not happen).

Thank you so much for your answers!

Friday and Saturday were much more fun at the gogo bars. Tried them all this time.

Saturday went to J-Ave / Julianas. So many girls. And they wouldn't leave me alone. Absolutely awesome.

Someone told me Julianas is open every day of the week. Hope there will be some action on the weekdays as well. So far my favorite place in Cebu.

Only problem were the street children. I walked from the bars to Mango Sq, and got mobbed by them. Hands all over, trying to get into my pockets.

The reason I "complain" about the lack of other customers is that I think the girls are more fun if they have something to work for. In my experience if there are 40+ girls and only three customers, most of the girls will sit on the sofa wishing they were at home or sleeping. No real complaint though. I manage to have fun anyway.

And just to give you all a good laugh. On Saturday at 4 AM I couldn't get my girl into the Waterfront. She had no I'd. And I had been thinking about too many other things to ask her beforehand. So close to the goal but no score. My first night in the PH without a companion. Got some much-needed sleep though.

[QUOTE=Bongster; 1288598]Thank you so much for your answers!

Friday and Saturday were much more fun at the gogo bars. Tried them all this time.

Saturday went to J-Ave / Julianas. So many girls. And they wouldn't leave me alone. Absolutely awesome.

Someone told me Julianas is open every day of the week. Hope there will be some action on the weekdays as well. So far my favorite place in Cebu.

Only problem were the street children. I walked from the bars to Mango Sq, and got mobbed by them. Hands all over, trying to get into my pockets.

The reason I "complain" about the lack of other customers is that I think the girls are more fun if they have something to work for. In my experience if there are 40+ girls and only three customers, most of the girls will sit on the sofa wishing they were at home or sleeping. No real complaint though. I manage to have fun anyway.

And just to give you all a good laugh. On Saturday at 4 AM I couldn't get my girl into the Waterfront. She had no I'd. And I had been thinking about too many other things to ask her beforehand. So close to the goal but no score. My first night in the PH without a companion. Got some much-needed sleep though.[/QUOTE]J ave and Ayala have a lot of freelance action now, like herding cats they can go away with out any reason.

Do not walk the mango ave , you will get robbed , a taxi is 40 peso

All bars in Cebu the girls sit away from the punters, you can ask for a line up and pick who you want to buy ladies drink. If you want fun do not be cheep buy the girls drinks.

As for no I'd sounds you picked a bad apple they use that as excuses to stop girls they know who lie and thieve, never try to sneak girls in and make sure the guards see the girl a few freelancers are banned from bars and hotels due to problems, so use a condom as girls who fail hygiene also turn to freelance.

How long are you in town, I live here

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1288696]As for no I D sounds you picked a bad apple they use that as excuses to stop girls they know who lie and thieve, never try to sneak girls in and make sure the guards see the girl a few freelancers are banned from bars and hotels due to problems, so use a condom as girls who fail hygiene also turn to freelance.[/QUOTE]This is very good advice from Frenzy.

I posted on another thread about a chat I had with security at Waterfront.

They are very familiar with many of the popular bgs because they see them regularly as they pass in and out (with different guys of course hehe). They also keep tabs on the problem girls too.

Lack of an I D can sound a few warning bells for a punter so be on your guard about this.

I was at J Ave Thursday night.

Ok the Action may be there but that music if so friggen loud I cannot go in there. How does one talk with the girl when the music is so loud. Does the staff last very long at that place? Even my guts were vibrating.

Even sitting at the bar across the parking road entrance it was way too loud.

The bouncer introduced to to a pair and took them back for a 3some. One was so cute and nice titty for her size frame.

Going back to my hotel (Summit Circle) everyone was after my money, not just the kids. Pill pushers, car door openers cigarett pushers, everyone, like a gauntlet.

BTW forgot to mention.

Went to Red Lips with another white guy and had the strangest experience.

I had been warned though, by a report from Sailor Joe on Whorist. That they will ignore you. So just ask for a lineup.

We came in. Lots of lookers. Lots of potential at first sight. But as warned, we were completely ignored. Not one look our way. And the 3-4 girls "dancing" on stage, had all their attention on the mirror, all the time. Correcting their makeup and hair like they were in the bathroom. Every single one with their backs turned.

Even with the warning it was strange to be ignored to such a degree. Then I asked for a lineup. 10 mins, nothing happened. I ask again. 10 mins more, and the girls start dragging their way towards us, looking at the floor the whole time. Very reluctantly they line up, some hiding behind others. No one looking at us.

First time experience for me. What was that all about?

I even asked one of the mama-sans. Only explanation was that the girls were shy.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1288696]Do not walk the mango ave , you will get robbed , a taxi is 40 peso[/QUOTE]I have been going to the Mango Bars for many years, often walking sometimes not. I have often walked from Julianas to Vikings and the other bars and then continued walking to Banilad, where I often stay or the Waterfront. Never ever had a problem apart from one time when I made the mistake of taking on a couple of persistent and aggressive ladyboys who would not leave me alone. Even on that occasion I courted the problem by being aggressive rather than assertive and polite. I have seen this kind of scare mongering many times here on this thread and it has already been debated endlessly before. However I never get drunk as you might as well walk round with a target on your back (same applies in many Western cities also) , I try to be assertive but polite (apart from the one occasion I mentioned) and I try always to be aware of my surroundings.

Will be back later this month for my second trip and can't wait to start having fun.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1290898]I have been going to the Mango Bars for many years, often walking sometimes not. I have often walked from Julianas to Vikings and the other bars and then continued walking to Banilad, where I often stay or the Waterfront. Never ever had a problem apart from one time when I made the mistake of taking on a couple of persistent and aggressive ladyboys who would not leave me alone. Even on that occasion I courted the problem by being aggressive rather than assertive and polite. I have seen this kind of scare mongering many times here on this thread and it has already been debated endlessly before. However I never get drunk as you might as well walk round with a target on your back (same applies in many Western cities also) , I try to be assertive but polite (apart from the one occasion I mentioned) and I try always to be aware of my surroundings.

Will be back later this month for my second trip and can't wait to start having fun.[/QUOTE]I live here and see the people who work that street, there is a group who are randomly there it not the first time a guy has posted about that problem. So I wait until you meet them and see how you handle it.

[QUOTE=Bongster; 1290534]BTW forgot to mention.

Went to Red Lips with another white guy and had the strangest experience.

I had been warned though, by a report from Sailor Joe on Whorist. That they will ignore you. So just ask for a lineup.

We came in. Lots of lookers. Lots of potential at first sight. But as warned, we were completely ignored. Not one look our way. And the 3-4 girls "dancing" on stage, had all their attention on the mirror, all the time. Correcting their makeup and hair like they were in the bathroom. Every single one with their backs turned.

Even with the warning it was strange to be ignored to such a degree. Then I asked for a lineup. 10 mins, nothing happened. I ask again. 10 mins more, and the girls start dragging their way towards us, looking at the floor the whole time. Very reluctantly they line up, some hiding behind others. No one looking at us.

First time experience for me. What was that all about?

I even asked one of the mama-sans. Only explanation was that the girls were shy.[/QUOTE]When I go there I always have fun I buy the girls drinks, as for the line up yes the shy hiding ones do not pick them get the ones who look at you that you like. Pay the fee on here so I can PM you and go out with you, I never have a problem bar hopping.

[QUOTE=Jp Slicky; 1288738]Ok the Action may be there but that music if so friggen loud I cannot go in there. How does one talk with the girl when the music is so loud. Does the staff last very long at that place? Even my guts were vibrating.

Even sitting at the bar across the parking road entrance it was way too loud.[/QUOTE]Always have a pair of foam earplugs with you when you travel.

I am sure this asked before but this site is so difficult to search and find targeted information on. The fact of being able to create targeted informational threads. Oh on say,"Everything you wanted to know about malls for FLs". Instead everything is just dumped in common threads where the search is not that great.

If someone could provide comprehensive information on mall pickup, it would be greatly appreciated.

1. What' the general opinions on the best malls to visit?

2. What location (s) are the best places to haunt?

3. What are the best times to visit?

Structure could look like this:

Ayala.

Locations. A, B, C.

Best Time to visit. X-Y.

SM.

Robinsons Fuente.

Cybergate.

Country mall.

E-mall.

Gaisano locations.

Etc.

Thanks for providing a more comprehensive list of mall information.

Does anyone have information of what options there would be for P4P, FL, etc. During the 9am. 3pm time Mon. Fri?

Thanks!

I didn't see if this was already posted here, sorry if it was.

Anyway I'm here in Cebu and just read that Red Lips was closed last Thursday due to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url].

Some kind of undercover operation. Probably somebody forgot to pay the officials for not raiding the place.

[QUOTE=Going Low; 1296724]I didn't see if this was already posted here, sorry if it was.

Anyway I'm here in Cebu and just read that Red Lips was closed last Thursday due to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url].

Some kind of undercover operation. Probably somebody forgot to pay the officials for not raiding the place.[/QUOTE]GL,

Old news. The info was posted on the Cebu Bars thread.

[QUOTE=Kckid; 1296623]Does anyone have information of what options there would be for P4P, FL, etc. During the 9am. 3pm time Mon. Fri?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Ayala, when ever it is open (it can have bad days )

Mango square from 10 pm to 5 am. (same as above)

And try the bars on mango ave open 8 pm always have girls you just have to bar hop

[QUOTE=Kckid; 1296622]Instead everything is just dumped in common threads where the search is not that great.

If someone could provide comprehensive information on mall pickup, it would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]The malls in Cebu do not lend themselves to this kind of summary Kckid, and that's why you need to do your homework.

As many of us have posted here time and time again, you can go to every mall every day of the week between 10am and 3 pm and you may have no luck at all and then, without warning, you get hit on 3 or 4 times in one day.

I have said here previously that the most successful times have been when I go to have a cup of coffee and a snack, read and sit back and watch the passing parade, and suddenly I have luck when I am least expecting it.
When I go with a plan to find someone it rarely happens.
I see so many expats prowling around up and down feverishly eye-balling every potential woman and the "deer-in-the-headlights" look just does not go down well, and other expats will be sniggering at you.

Anyway. Answer to your question (from my perspective)

Ayala Mall is best.

Anytime in the day, as long as you are patient.

Probably Bo's Coffee Shop on 2nd level facing the courtyard (sit outside; get a book or newspaper; take your time; look nonchalant but also look friendly (smile, don't scowl).

Be aware of prospects but be cool too if you want to meet a regular freelancer.

The hard-core pros will come straight up to you. My last visit there I was approached by a very attractive woman (not a LB) at around 4. 30 pm who asked "Hi sir. Do you want to f*k me?" This might have appealed to some but this approach is not my scene, so I politely told her I was waiting for my wife. She just said OK as though she has asked me for the time, and moved on to another victim.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1290927]When I go there I always have fun I buy the girls drinks, as for the line up yes the shy hiding ones do not pick them get the ones who look at you that you like. Pay the fee on here so I can PM you and go out with you, I never have a problem bar hopping.[/QUOTE]The hot girls in red lipps prefer korean and japanese and also some only work for drinks.

Hi Guys,

I'm after a bit of advice if anybody is able to help.

For my next trip to Cebu, I'm trying to squeeze as much out of the 21 days as I can.

Now, the return leg of my flight home departs Cebu at 00. 50, a flight I presume any of you who go via Seoul will also have been on.

My question is, if technically the flight departs on the 22nd day (I. E. 50 minutes into it) would this be picked up on by passport control or as I pay to leave the country? It seems a

Waste to return a day earlier if 50 minutes is regarded as a day for those purposes, but likewise I wouldn't want to incur a fine or pay the visa extension fee, or create a problem for myself where any future entry into the country is concerned.

Hope this makes sense!

Thanks in adavance!

Sexbomb

Well I take that flight, I do not know the answer. I can tell you that you need to check in two hours early. Board 20 minutes early. So you would go thru imagration before the 22nd day. But that is using logic. Logic is hard to find in RP. I would think you were safe because if you get there 50 minutes before the plane leaves you are screwed any how. You will not be on the flight. Secound thing. If you have steady get hotel near airport before leaving and just do an extra day. If in the city. Many hotels will let you stay late for a fee. Like 500 peso. You might want to ask about that before check in. Hope this helps. Also show your return ticket when arriving and ask. But that will mean nothing when you come back. Unless you did pay for an extra 60 days. But still. Do not arrive at airport 50 minutes before flight. Lots of Koreans young bucks doing stand by

[QUOTE=Redman69;1308888]Well I take that flight, I do not know the answer. I can tell you that you need to check in two hours early. Board 20 minutes early. So you would go thru imagration before the 22nd day. But that is using logic. Logic is hard to find in RP. I would think you were safe because if you get there 50 minutes before the plane leaves you are screwed any how.[/QUOTE]Thanks Redman, that's my point. Logic would dictate that it would be ok. I'll obviously be at the airport from 10pm onwards and sat by the departure gate by about 11pm. But I

Don't want to get stung by a fine, if technically I wouldn't be leaving RP until the following day.

I'll probably either a) take an alternative flight on Cathay, be) leave a day earlier or see) work permitting, make the trip something like 26 days so at least paying for the extra 60 days is at least somewhat worthwhile.

I would be interested to know if anybody has experienced this though. The last time I was there, the girl incorrectly stamped my passport upon arrival and I had 23 days stamped between arrival and necessary departure date. My trip was, coincidentally, for 23 days. When I left RP, on the date of departure stamped in my passport, the passport control guy stared at my passport for about 30 seconds, shook his head, raised his eyebrows and then handed the passport straight back to me. For that 30 seconds, I was concerned that a 'fine' of some sort would be enforced.

If the ticket says 22 days from your arrival you will have to pay I think I have seen them calc up the days when I flown in to see if I am over staying just book the 21 days or apply for a 59 day visa

[QUOTE=SexBomb123; 1308518]Hi Guys,

I'm after a bit of advice if anybody is able to help.

For my next trip to Cebu, I'm trying to squeeze as much out of the 21 days as I can.

Now, the return leg of my flight home departs Cebu at 00. 50, a flight I presume any of you who go via Seoul will also have been on.

My question is, if technically the flight departs on the 22nd day (I. E. 50 minutes into it) would this be picked up on by passport control or as I pay to leave the country? It seems a

Waste to return a day earlier if 50 minutes is regarded as a day for those purposes, but likewise I wouldn't want to incur a fine or pay the visa extension fee, or create a problem for myself where any future entry into the country is concerned.

Hope this makes sense!

Thanks in adavance!

Sexbomb[/QUOTE]Phi immigration seek out the entry stamp and then only departure stamp is placed next to entry stamp. 21 days are calculated from the day of the entry stamp, not on the time entry is made. Last time in May I entered on 2 nd and departed on 23 Road. Immigration lady checked and made sure I did not stay more than 21 days. Do not know whatever happened with extending visa to 30 days?

[quote=sexbomb123; 1308518]hi guys,

i'm after a bit of advice if anybody is able to help.

for my next trip to cebu, i'm trying to squeeze as much out of the 21 days as i can.

now, the return leg of my flight home departs cebu at 00. 50, a flight i presume any of you who go via seoul will also have been on.

my question is, if technically the flight departs on the 22nd day (i. e. 50 minutes into it) would this be picked up on by passport control or as i pay to leave the country? it seems a

waste to return a day earlier if 50 minutes is regarded as a day for those purposes, but likewise i wouldn't want to incur a fine or pay the visa extension fee, or create a problem for myself where any future entry into the country is concerned.

hope this makes sense!

thanks in adavance!

sexbomb[/quote]

as sammon mentioned, there was some news that visa on arrival has been extended from 21 days to 30 days.

[url]http://www.canadaupdates.com/node/18063[/url]

new philippines visa rules offer longer visa-free stay for foreigners.

visa-free stay for 30 days in philippines—so, the new philippines immigration rules will allow foreigners to stay in the philippines without a visa for a period of 30 days. currently, the maximum stay for foreigners without having a valid philippines visa is limited to 21 days.

[url]http://www.eturbonews.com/28575/philippines-offers-foreign-visitors-30-day-free-visa[/url]

manila, philippines. tourists from 166 countries can now avail of the expanded 30-day free visa upon arrival and six months for retirees as part of the government efforts to prove "it is more fun in the philippines".

tourism secretary ramon r. jimenez said this in a speech before the general membership meeting of the makati business club that the department of foreign affairs and the bureau of immigration have issued circular to extend the free visa upon arrival to 166 countries to 30 days from 21 days and for retirees to enjoy 6 month free visa upon arrival.

"this is to show that the philippines is more fun no matter what age you are," jimenez said.

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com.sg/showtopic-g294245-i3256-k5340714-easier_entry_philippines_visa_waiver_extended_to_30_days-philippines.html[/url]

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however, as you can read in comment, seems like its not implemented yet on the ground even after 3 months when tourism secretary himself said it,

has anyone recently tried this? could someone confirm if they got 30 days extension?

[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1308993]As Sammon mentioned, there was some news that Visa on arrival has been extended from 21 days to 30 days.

SNIP.

However, as you can read in comment, seems like its NOT implemented yet on the ground even after 3 months when tourism secretary himself said it,

Has anyone recently tried this? Could someone confirm if they got 30 days extension?[/QUOTE]It is not yet being implemented. It has not yet been passed into "law".

See.

[url]http://immigration.gov.ph/[/url]

[QUOTE=SexBomb123; 1308518]Hi Guys,

I'm after a bit of advice if anybody is able to help.

For my next trip to Cebu, I'm trying to squeeze as much out of the 21 days as I can.

Now, the return leg of my flight home departs Cebu at 00. 50, a flight I presume any of you who go via Seoul will also have been on.

My question is, if technically the flight departs on the 22nd day (I. E. 50 minutes into it) would this be picked up on by passport control or as I pay to leave the country? It seems a

Waste to return a day earlier if 50 minutes is regarded as a day for those purposes, but likewise I wouldn't want to incur a fine or pay the visa extension fee, or create a problem for myself where any future entry into the country is concerned.

Hope this makes sense!

Thanks in adavance!

Sexbomb[/QUOTE]You are crossing the border the time you pass through immigration and your passport is stamped. Simply make sure it is before midnight.

The flight departure time does not count.

[QUOTE=El Greco; 1309225]You are crossing the border the time you pass through immigration and your passport is stamped. Simply make sure it is before midnight.

The flight departure time does not count.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. As always, your advice on this board is invaluable. On this basis, I would take my chances and make the most of the 21st day.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1309152]It is not yet being implemented. It has not yet been passed into "law".

See.

[url]http://immigration.gov.ph/[/url][/QUOTE]Yes. 21 day is still in effect.

[QUOTE=SexBomb123; 1308518]Hi Guys,

I'm after a bit of advice if anybody is able to help. I'm trying to squeeze as much out of the 21 days as I can. Now, the return leg of my flight home departs Cebu at 00. 50, a flight I presume any of you who go via Seoul will also have been on.

My question is, if technically the flight departs on the 22nd day (I. E. 50 minutes into it) would this be picked up on by passport control or as I pay to leave the country? It seems a

Waste to return a day earlier if 50 minutes is regarded as a day for those purposes, but likewise I wouldn't want to incur a fine or pay the visa extension fee, or create a problem for myself where any future entry into the country is concerned.[/QUOTE]The day you arrive in the Philippines is not counted and included in the 21 day tourist visa no matter what time you arrive. So for example you arrive 12:45am on August 1st, your 21 day tourist visa would start on August 2nd and the visa would be valid until August 22nd. It's also common for some BI agents to grant you an extra day making your total stay 23 days if your International flight arrives later in the evening.

If you over stay the 21 day tourist visa for an extra day you will be asked to pay a fine when departing the Philippines. Gone are the days when a foreigner can sweet talk and smile his way out of paying the fine. Now it's all about collecting cash. A few months ago I witnessed a female travelling with kids pull a nasty tantrum at NAIA when she was told she over stayed an extra day and would need to pay a small fine.

[QUOTE=El Greco; 1309225]You are crossing the border the time you pass through immigration and your passport is stamped. Simply make sure it is before midnight.

The flight departure time does not count.[/QUOTE]The time you passed through immigration is not normally noted. Usually only the arrival and departure flight numbers and airline codes are writen in pen next to the stamp.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1309304]The day you arrive in the Philippines is not counted and included in the 21 day tourist visa no matter what time you arrive. So for example you arrive 12:45am on August 1st, your 21 day tourist visa would start on August 2nd and the visa would be valid until August 22nd. It's also common for some BI agents to grant you an extra day making your total stay 23 days if your International flight arrives later in the evening.[/QUOTE]Stroker, this would explain why I received the 23 days last time. My flight arrived from Seoul at 23. 40 into Cebu. Certainly useful information, but it would appear to remain a rather greyarea! NThis at least gives me the extra day I was looking for, but next time I will really pay attention to the stamps entered into my passport upon arrival. If the new 30 day visa did

Come into effect, it would be a god send for me personally based on the number of days vacation I can usually take from work, especially in the summer.

[QUOTE=SexBomb123;1309268]Thanks guys. As always, your advice on this board is invaluable. On this basis, I would take my chances and make the most of the 21st day.[/QUOTE]SB, I tried to PM you with some help of a different kind regarding your timeframe, but you are not yet a paid member. If you're going to ask for help, please pay up the $20 membership fee (as you can afford an airline ticket and hotels and girls and blah blah).

This maybe old news and if so I apologise.

Was at Cebu Macatan airport other night en route Singapore. All single girls were asked to fill in a form, pre printed and given to them by immigration officials.

Same for guys with a cutie regadless if a wife or not (one guy had wife and kid and had to sign an affadavit about sponsoring, etc)

All peopel effectively signing the form which IMHO is crazy as half the girls were alone and still allowed on board, did not see any offloaded.

Immigration also scan the passport etc of the guy as well.

For me this is new as never been asked before when with a cutie so was surprsied to see this.

PS: same flight a policeman / security official boarded the plane befoe we took off. An Indian guy had left the restaurant without paying his bill (around 2000 PHP) so came to collect. Inteeresting conversation (albeit brief)

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1309467]SB, I tried to PM you with some help of a different kind regarding your timeframe, but you are not yet a paid member. If you're going to ask for help, please pay up the $20 membership fee (as you can afford an airline ticket and hotels and girls and blah blah).[/QUOTE]Westcoast, you beat me to it by about 10 minutes. A valid point nonetheless, one of those thing I've been meaning to get around to! I have signed up now so just waiting for it to be activiated. Then feel free to PM away!

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1309499]This maybe old news and if so I apologise.

Was at Cebu Macatan airport other night en route Singapore. All single girls were asked to fill in a form, pre printed and given to them by immigration officials.

Same for guys with a cutie regadless if a wife or not (one guy had wife and kid and had to sign an affadavit about sponsoring, etc)

All peopel effectively signing the form which IMHO is crazy as half the girls were alone and still allowed on board, did not see any offloaded.

Immigration also scan the passport etc of the guy as well.

For me this is new as never been asked before when with a cutie so was surprsied to see this.

PS: same flight a policeman / security official boarded the plane befoe we took off. An Indian guy had left the restaurant without paying his bill (around 2000 PHP) so came to collect. Inteeresting conversation (albeit brief) [/QUOTE]WR,

BI had previously requested single female passengers (who they suspected of sex trafficking) and some younger male passengers (suspected of working in another SEA country without the proper stamps and the Philippine bean counters losing out on revenue) who were flying to certain destinations in SEA to fill out a form. There was no hard guideline that BI used to implement who they asked to fill out the form. It was left up to the BI agents to decide.

The fact that married filipinas who were travelling with there foreign spouse have to fill out the form is a new change in policy. Usually once BI looks around the filipinas passport and they see a few balikbayan stamps, they just process and move on to the next passenger without any questions. Thanks for the updated info.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1309306]The time you passed through immigration is not normally noted. Usually only the arrival and departure flight numbers and airline codes are writen in pen next to the stamp.[/QUOTE]I wrote a totally different thing. Read my post again.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1309499]Immigration also scan the passport etc of the guy as well.[/QUOTE]I wonder where all of that information goes. With the number of people moving in / out of the country it would be some interesting software that would be needed for anything meaningful.

I was recently in Cambodia where they match the arriving person, their finger prints and their on arrival photograph. Upon exiting the country they then match my fingerprints with my passport to make sure I was the same physical person carrying the document and leaving. I can see that they had the software and were actively working to reduce [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url].

The Phils BI approach just seems half-hearted.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1309304]The day you arrive in the Philippines is not counted and included in the 21 day tourist visa no matter what time you arrive. So for example you arrive 12:45am on August 1st, your 21 day tourist visa would start on August 2nd and the visa would be valid until August 22nd. It's also common for some BI agents to grant you an extra day making your total stay 23 days if your International flight arrives later in the evening.[/QUOTE]"The reckoning of the 21 days begins on the day after arrival in the Philippines and this visa-free stay allows for regular tourism and business meetings."

[url]http://www.philippineconsulate.com.au/visas.html[/url]

All over the world the day of arrival and departure do count. It seems that in Philippines they exercise a different procedure.

I was not aware of it so I booked my tickets to exit on the 21st day. Next time I might use that extra day.

Thanks

[QUOTE=El Greco;1309653]"The reckoning of the 21 days begins on the day after arrival in the Philippines and this visa-free stay allows for regular tourism and business meetings."[/QUOTE]Anyone every had problems with the carrying of Peso notes? I notice on the immigration form says you have to declare if carrying more than USD10,000 or more than P20,000. It's not hard to be carrying more than P20k.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain; 1309649]I wonder where all of that information goes. With the number of people moving in / out of the country it would be some interesting software that would be needed for anything meaningful. [SNIP]

The Phils BI approach just seems half-hearted.[/QUOTE]BD,

Information? BI software? Nooooo LOL. The info goes into a file folder. A simple folder that very possibly had been passed around 87 times before it landed at the BI airport office. Nothing ever gets thrown away in the Philippines. Reuse is the mantra to great success.

The word technology for the most part has never been used at BI. A whole illegal logging operation somewhere in the Philippines forks over there truckload of logs on a daily basis just to provide the required three photocopies of everything. Photocopy paper rules the Philippines, not microchips or cloud technology.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1309843]Anyone every had problems with the carrying of Peso notes? I notice on the immigration form says you have to declare if carrying more than USD10,000 or more than P20,000. It's not hard to be carrying more than P20k.[/QUOTE]Bring in USD $ you get better buy rates here. I never needed more than php10k to get to a money exchange

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1309843]Anyone every had problems with the carrying of Peso notes? I notice on the immigration form says you have to declare if carrying more than USD10,000 or more than P20,000. It's not hard to be carrying more than P20k.[/QUOTE]No need to carry around the kind of money to enter the Philippines. Just carry enough pesos (mostly in smaller bills) to get you through the first few days. I think 10000p should be enough. Go to a Citibank or HSBC or other well known ATM to withdraw pesos as needed. I often withdraw the max at Citibank to cut down on ATM fees (15000p).

Technically you are supposed to report if you are bringing in pesos and-or US currency in excess of the limit, but many bring it in and few report. Just don't bring in a suitcase full of bills or so many bills that you need a rubber band to hold your bank roll.

BI might also request to see that you have the means to support yourself (pesos or other currency) while you are in the Philippines. This has never happened to me personally but technically they could ask.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1310101]BD,

Information? BI software? Nooooo LOL. The info goes into a file folder. A simple folder that very possibly had been passed around 87 times before it landed at the BI airport office. Nothing ever gets thrown away in the Philippines. Reuse is the mantra to great success.

The word technology for the most part has never been used at BI. A whole illegal logging operation somewhere in the Philippines forks over there truckload of logs on a daily basis just to provide the required three photocopies of everything. Photocopy paper rules the Philippines, not microchips or cloud technology.[/QUOTE]Ok, I agree with you there. I proposed a small technology use at a local institution in which many people are utilised preparing monthly reports. I pointed out that it could easily be done in MYOB in about 3 minutes. I could feel the silence as everyone realised that lots of very nice people would be out of a job for the price of the software. Not something I was going to implement or the govt boffin. I do have so much to learn.

But technology for handling the data matching and effectiveness of BI. Now that is a great project. Would cost $$, would increase trade, would reduce dodgy trade barriers etc etc. But this is not the forum for that.

As for taking honeys out of the country on holiday. Something I want to investigate more.

BD.

(BD: This might be off topic and it can be removed / relocated if needed.)

Has anyone checked out the first 7-11 in Cebu which opened a few days ago on Escario? Any other locations?

Just wondering.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1310117]Has anyone checked out the first 7-11 in Cebu which opened a few days ago on Escario? Any other locations?

Just wondering.[/QUOTE]I am intrigued by your question Stroker.

I am wondering why you are "just wondering"?

I am not being a smart ass. I am just intrigued why you need intel on a 7/11.

My experience has been that "you see one you see them all". At least that's my experience in Manila and Australia.

7/11s ; Mini Stops they are all clones di ba?

Yeah I read the news a said shit there goes the neighborhood, this place is getting more like a place I left because I am unique, I avoid these type of places and hope they close up and leave.

Maybe I am just strange but I like Cebu I moved to 5 years ago, not the new yank version.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1310111]Go to a Citibank or HSBC or other well known ATM to withdraw pesos as needed. I often withdraw the max at Citibank to cut down on ATM fees (15000p).[/QUOTE]No ATM fees if you withdraw from HSBC apart from any imposed by your own card issuer

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1310236]Yeah I read the news a said shit there goes the neighborhood, this place is getting more like a place I left because I am unique, I avoid these type of places and hope they close up and leave.

Maybe I am just strange but I like Cebu I moved to 5 years ago, not the new yank version.[/QUOTE]Frenzy,

I agree 100 percent. Cebu is slowly starting to look just like all the other places, and the queen city of the south is losing it's small city charm. Cebu is changing and not for the better IMO.

Or maybe I'm just getting cranky in my old age.

[QUOTE=Dark Vader;1310278]No ATM fees if you withdraw from HSBC apart from any imposed by your own card issuer[/QUOTE]That was exactly my point. ATM fees imposed by my bank card issuer. Not everyone is a HSBC client and should be aware to withdraw the max to cut down on related bank fees.

My point also was to stick to well-known banking ATM's when withdrawing funds. Any mishap such as the machine eatting your card, brownout, and-or an ATM machine malfunction where the machine debits your account but does not dispense any pesos (a problem in the Philippines) can be dealt with quicker when using a multinational bank ATM or one of the stronger Philippine banks such as BPI and BDO.

Use one of the regional Philippine bank ATM's at your peril. I say this because every few months a smaller Philippine bank goes bust and if the bank ATM you use is one of those banks and they are in the process of defaulting you will have a hard time proving and getting your money back if the ATM does not dispense any pesos.

[QUOTE=Dark Vader;1310278]No ATM fees if you withdraw from HSBC apart from any imposed by your own card issuer[/QUOTE]I checked them in different places around the world. They might not show an ATM fee as such but if you check the rate you'll notice that it is in there.

I used three different cards from three different banks same time Same amount on same machine and then checked my charges. The cheapest one was always my old Greek bank. Maybe this is one of the reasons they are broke now. lol The worst was always HSBC.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1309633]WR,

BI had previously requested single female passengers (who they suspected of sex trafficking) and some younger male passengers (suspected of working in another SEA country without the proper stamps and the Philippine bean counters losing out on revenue) who were flying to certain destinations in SEA to fill out a form. There was no hard guideline that BI used to implement who they asked to fill out the form. It was left up to the BI agents to decide.[/QUOTE]It is the loss of fees for POEA and all the OFW seminars etc that they want to catch and collect. Always comes back to revenue and cash. From talking to some people appears many have visas for work in other SEA countriesbut want to avoid what they seem as unnecessary 'seminars' that the government insists they attend (many apparently only held in Manila) for which there is a fee. SO they go to the new country as a tourist then convert to OFW on arrival thus avoiding the fees and the incredibly long tme it takes to process all this extra paperwork.

Only in the Philippines.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1310355]SO they go to the new country as a tourist then convert to OFW on arrival thus avoiding the fees and the incredibly long tme it takes to process all this extra paperwork.

Only in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Except that when things go belly-up, as they usually do for undocumented filipinos working abroad, they run to the government pleading for help.

A huge percentage of the filipinos in deep shit in Syria are UN-DOCUMENTED. They are now pleading for repatriation.

The Head of BOI was on local TV yesterday discussing this very problem.

He indicated that it was OK for workers to do direct contracting rather than through an agent IF THEY KNEW THE JOB WAS LEGIT, but often it is not. He just requested that they register with POEA so that GoP knows they are overseas.

Employers in foreign countries LOVE the pinoys and pinays who come unregistered. They rip them off mercilessly. They are a bit more circumspect when there is an official document.

I spoke with a woman yesterday who was undocumented and worked in a Gulf state Hard Rock Cafe. The manager, another filipina, ripped her off to the extent that her 28, 000 per month (php) promised salary became just 12, 000 per month through sheer theft by the manager. When she complained about the situation to the owner the manager kicked her out. The owner did nothing.

She went to the Philippines authorities but they could not do anything as she had no official papers but at least they helped her get back home.

Now she is working abroad again and is a strict advocate for being registered by POEA.

I agree that the seminars etc that they require are often seen as useless by us but at the end of the day filipinos get shafted by everybody.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1310355]It is the loss of fees for POEA and all the OFW seminars etc that they want to catch and collect. Always comes back to revenue and cash. From talking to some people appears many have visas for work in other SEA countriesbut want to avoid what they seem as unnecessary 'seminars' that the government insists they attend (many apparently only held in Manila) for which there is a fee. SO they go to the new country as a tourist then convert to OFW on arrival thus avoiding the fees and the incredibly long tme it takes to process all this extra paperwork.

Only in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]On a related point, was reading South China Morning Post yesterday in HK. Was telling the story that many helpers, after working in HK for 5 years have less money than when they arrived in HK. Reason being they become guarantors for other peoples loans, they lend money to one of their OFW with the usual sob stories (yes they rip each other off same as they try to rip us off LOL) or just waste it on expensive presents when they go back home.

Some of the seminars they attend in Manila do actually tell them to only spend what they can afford, but it seems to fall on deaf ears often.

Was in Beijing this week and due to rain stopped in a small Italian restaurant. And of course the waitress there is Pinay. Ask here if she got the job thru an agent, she says no. Ask her if she has a permit to work in China, she says no.

Ask her how she got to Beijing, said she took a flight to Macau and arranged a China tourist visa from there. Sadly she was short and fat otherwise I'm sure I would been asking her a whole lot more!

[QUOTE=El Greco; 1310287]I checked them in different places around the world. They might not show an ATM fee as such but if you check the rate you'll notice that it is in there.

I used three different cards from three different banks same time Same amount on same machine and then checked my charges. The cheapest one was always my old Greek bank. Maybe this is one of the reasons they are broke now. LOL The worst was always HSBC.[/QUOTE]Some banks have agreements not to charge each other's customers ATM fees and / or the bank absorbs the ATM fee and / or you are important to the bank.

I get some free withdrawals in Europe from Deutschbank but haven't found any in Pi that have arrangements with an Aussie bank.

I like ATMs as easy to get cash without have to manage USDs.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1310397]Except that when things go belly-up, as they usually do for undocumented Filipinos working abroad, they run to the government pleading for help.

Employers in foreign countries LOVE the pinoys and pinays who come unregistered. They rip them off mercilessly. They are a bit more circumspect when there is an official document.

I spoke with a woman yesterday who was undocumented and worked in a Gulf state Hard Rock Cafe. The manager, another Filipina, ripped her off to the extent that her 28, 000 per month (php) promised salary became just 12, 000 per month through sheer theft by the manager. When she complained about the situation to the owner the manager kicked her out. The owner did nothing.

I agree that the seminars etc that they require are often seen as useless by us but at the end of the day Filipinos get shafted by everybody.[/QUOTE]I agree with general reasoning as you said RK not how it is administered which seems more like money grab than real advice. Pinays being ripped off by pinays / pinoys is part of Filipino culture and I can give you many examples, especially with domestic helpers (DHs). They go through all the seminars etc and still end up in some Middle East countries where the agent makes them sign a new contract at 50% less. Naïve etc they do and then work 7 days a week. Very typical and is why the Philippines and some ME countries still to agree on DH contracts (main issue is that the locals won't pay 15, 000 PHP a month and give a day off saying they can get Africans for 50% and no days off.)

In the UAE I am told salaries are becoming lower as so many Filipinos looking for work that the employers take advantage. Example no medical coverage (illegal) , no ticket home (illegal)

The other main problem is the Philippine Embassy and Missions who IMHO are not active enough to stop. When I last asked a few years ago the UAE mission had 43 runaways in its accommodation waiting for someone to send cash to send them home.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1310406]Reason being they become guarantors for other peoples loans, they lend money to one of their OFW with the usual sob stories (yes they rip each other off same as they try to rip us off LOL) or just waste it on expensive presents when they go back home.

Some of the seminars they attend in Manila do actually tell them to only spend what they can afford, but it seems to fall on deaf ears often.

Was in Beijing this week and due to rain stopped in a small Italian restaurant. And of course the waitress there is Pinay. Ask here if she got the job thru an agent, she says no. Ask her if she has a permit to work in China, she says no.

Ask her how she got to Beijing, said she took a flight to Macau and arranged a China tourist visa from there. Sadly she was short and fat otherwise I'm sure I would been asking her a whole lot more![/QUOTE]See my earlier post. The guarantor issue is a major problem in the Middle East. I know of a pinay who did this for a relative, who promptly took the cash and departed for PI never to be seen again. Banks and police are chasing her but I have some friends in the country advising her so while she is not in jail (as she can't pay the monthly instalments and live at the same time) , she is managing to keep them away. This was a close relative who she told me she 'trusted'

Met a pinoy waiter last night in KL and chatted to him. He earns around 30, 000 PHP a month and could not survive unless he was single. Said he is there illegally, is buying visa he said etc.

Another I know paid an agent 60, 000 PHP for a job in SEA but so far earns 15, 000PHP as only part time work. Go figure.

FF I think you should have been more magnanimous and taken one for the team with the waitress as she clearly needed help. Or least a huge tip (and I don t mean shave your pussy and lose weight LOL)

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1310490]See my earlier post. The guarantor issue is a major problem in the Middle East. I know of a pinay who did this for a relative, who promptly took the cash and departed for PI never to be seen again. Banks and police are chasing her but I have some friends in the country advising her so while she is not in jail (as she can't pay the monthly instalments and live at the same time) , she is managing to keep them away. This was a close relative who she told me she 'trusted'

Met a pinoy waiter last night in KL and chatted to him. He earns around 30, 000 PHP a month and could not survive unless he was single. Said he is there illegally, is buying visa he said etc.

Another I know paid an agent 60, 000 PHP for a job in SEA but so far earns 15, 000PHP as only part time work. Go figure.

FF I think you should have been more magnanimous and taken one for the team with the waitress as she clearly needed help. Or least a huge tip (and I don t mean shave your pussy and lose weight LOL) [/QUOTE]WR, I couldn't have done this one. Small, fat and dark, with some dental issues. I just couldn't. But for sure I thought about it when I shocked her with my best Tagalog.

She was there on a "student visa". If you meet many Pinays in KL you will find those who are living in KL are also all on student visas. They enroll in a school, pay the minimum student tuition deposit to get the visa and then never go to the school. Tried and tested trick to get a long stay visa in many countries.

Whilst the agents in Manila are very avaricious and shark like, the Indonesian agents can be even worse. Its quite common for a DH in HK, to give up the first 6 months of her salary to pay the agent fees.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1310493]She was there on a "student visa". If you meet many Pinays in KL you will find those who are living in KL are also all on student visas. They enroll in a school, pay the minimum student tuition deposit to get the visa and then never go to the school. Tried and tested trick to get a long stay visa in many countries.[/QUOTE]Seems to be an excellent idea for Pinay to enter Australia as well. Many young WLs I meet here in Australia are here to 'learn english'. One Pinay I met in Cebu is trying to get into Aust but she needs to show she has some cash in her bank. She's applied twice already. I'd consider sponsoring her entry with some cash in her hands but I don't want to have my name on her visa application. Of course she is quite pretty and when she (23 year old) sees all the good looking Aussie 'boys' her middle aged boyfriend (me) might not look so attractive!

[quote=wicked roger; 1310488]i agree with general reasoning as you said rk not how it is administered which seems more like money grab than real advice. pinays being ripped off by pinays / pinoys is part of filipino culture and i can give you many examples, especially with domestic helpers (dhs). they go through all the seminars etc and still end up in some middle east countries where the agent makes them sign a new contract at 50% less. naïve etc they do and then work 7 days a week. very typical and is why the philippines and some me countries still to agree on dh contracts (main issue is that the locals won't pay 15, 000 php a month and give a day off saying they can get africans for 50% and no days off.)

in the uae i am told salaries are becoming lower as so many filipinos looking for work that the employers take advantage. example no medical coverage (illegal) , no ticket home (illegal)

the other main problem is the philippine embassy and missions who imho are not active enough to stop. when i last asked a few years ago the uae mission had 43 runaways in its accommodation waiting for someone to send cash to send them home.[/quote]very true. sadly, its the case with most third world countries, in india as well, they give big promises while in india and when you go to gulf, your passport is confirep001ed and told to work 16 hours a day to pay off the loan amount you were brought in for. there were riots involving indians and their contractors in the middle east couple of years ago when the tallest building in the world al burj was being built. middle east is hell for asians for the most part. indians and filipinos send the highest number of workers to the middle east by far from asia.

the administration who looks after these cases in both countries are a joke, paid and brought off by the royal family sponsored companies. i'm sometimes astonished by the exact degree of cheating and lies that governments and recruitment agencies shell out in both countries to its own people. its almost perfect that these scams work in both countries 5000 miles apart with different country and culture...they dish out the exact bs to both countries and get away with it...

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1310690]Seems to be an excellent idea for Pinay to enter Australia as well. Many young WLs I meet here in Australia are here to 'learn english'. One Pinay I met in Cebu is trying to get into Aust but she needs to show she has some cash in her bank. She's applied twice already. I'd consider sponsoring her entry with some cash in her hands but I don't want to have my name on her visa application. Of course she is quite pretty and when she (23 year old) sees all the good looking Aussie 'boys' her middle aged boyfriend (me) might not look so attractive![/QUOTE]I could only imagine what the money in the bank would do once she got it. Are there any Aussies who have taken a bar girl back to Aust from Cebu? I had guys ask me and I always reply none that I know.

Does anyone know any cam site where there are only cebu girls? Or which is the best phillipine cam site to have some fun and possibly meet the girl? Sorry if this question is not meant for this section obviously I'm new LOL.

[QUOTE=BGolf74;1310877]Does anyone know any cam site where there are only cebu girls? Or which is the best phillipine cam site to have some fun and possibly meet the girl? Sorry if this question is not meant for this section obviously I'm new LOL.[/QUOTE]My thoughts, there are two approaches.

1. Meeting girls for dates and then validating them via a webcam.

2. Looking for webcam fun.

Would the freewebcams site work for this fun? I think they have an asian offshoot website which can be selected by country. I doubt it would get down to selection by City though.

Some of the girls I've met on various dating website are happy to go to Yahoo Messenger for web chat. Each girl has their favourite webcam program that they understand. Sometimes it is easier to just install the various alternate cam programs ie Skype, Google, whatever. The alternative trying to get them to install new software, setup an account takes a lot of patience. I can be installed and registered a lot quicker. I think even Facebook has webchat now.

BD

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1310690]Seems to be an excellent idea for Pinay to enter Australia as well. Many young WLs I meet here in Australia are here to 'learn english'. One Pinay I met in Cebu is trying to get into Aust but she needs to show she has some cash in her bank. She's applied twice already. I'd consider sponsoring her entry with some cash in her hands but I don't want to have my name on her visa application. Of course she is quite pretty and when she (23 year old) sees all the good looking Aussie 'boys' her middle aged boyfriend (me) might not look so attractive![/QUOTE]Does she appreciate the fact that she needs a lot of cash for tuition fees too BD. University is not free in Australia unless she has a scholarship (competitive) and her study will be strictly monitored too. If she doesn't attend classes or shows that she is there for reasons other than study she will be kicked out AND black-listed too. Most of the SE Asian girls studying English in Australia come from wealthy families or they are smart girls (Vietnamese, Indonesian, Filipina, etc) who have won scholarships or are on the Australian Government Development Scholarships scheme.

The fact that she has applied twice and been rejected means she is flagged on the list and any 3rd application will be watched closely.

Pinays have a rose-colored view of Australia and don't believe me when I say that I it is very expensive to live in Australia. Your final sentence is your own very good reason why you should not "sponsor" her. If you do there is no way you can avoid having to provide a letter of support for her with your name and passport number. I know how difficult it was to get my (then gf now wife) a visa for her first trip. After the first one was granted we have returned at least twice a year.

[QUOTE=BGolf74;1310877]Does anyone know any cam site where there are only cebu girls?[/QUOTE]

I never found any in Cebu when I had the same very bad idea that you have. Almost all were in Manila or around that area. The local authorities have an extremely dim view of girls working on webcam sites. This is why there are no longer any private rooms in the cyber cafes.

Having experienced how unbelievably easy it is to meet girls in Cebu, I realized that spending money on webcam chats trying to hunt down a girl who was living in Cebu and was interested in meeting me was a waste of time and money. There are a few individuals on this forum who seem to not have anything better to do with their time than spend every waking hour chatting with girls on DIA for months and months (check the Chat Rooms & Pen Pals thread). They then try to analyze who is a scammer, who is a lady boy, who will actually meet them, how large the boobs are etc. etc.. You might want to join this "club of losers". However if you actually HAVE A LIFE and will actually be TRAVELING TO CEBU, simply read the forum and don't worry. Even if you look like Quasimodo, as long as you have $30 or $40 bucks to spend (at the very most), you will find plenty of company.

By the way, congratulations on paying your $19.95 so that you can send and receive PMs. This is very useful since some forum members can help fix you up if you need a little help.

[QUOTE=David_33; 1311291]Even if you look like Quasimodo, as long as you have $30 or $40 bucks to spend (at the most) , you will find plenty of company.[/QUOTE]I agree with David's comments and vouch that he does look like Quasimodo but still has plenty of fresh young cuties seeing him when he visits Cebu LOL.

D33. Still no news about meeting in my office.

[QUOTE=David_33;1311291]You might want to join this "club of losers".[/QUOTE]Yes, BGolf74 join the winners and stick to the hoes in Cebu. They have fucked 1000 "phorigners" before you and knows exactly when to say "ooh" and "ahh". In bars, on the street corners and the P4P hangouts in the malls you will find the freshest, cutest, prettiest and sweetest girls. The more time the spend working as cum receptacles, the sweeter they will get. Do not bother with the skanky virgin teens that are chasing dreams on DIA or other social sites.

B.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1311244]The fact that she has applied twice and been rejected means she is flagged on the list and any 3rd application will be watched closely.[/QUOTE]That is an excellent point.

I was going to catch up with her again when I'm in Ph later this month. Maybe I might have to reconsider that. I think being a cynic and looking after her when I was in Cebu previously is OK. Inviting her again in the midst of her Visa application might give her the wrong message. And, as we all know there is no shortage of nice Pinay in Cebu.

Thanks for the info I have visited cebu many times. I guess I was just bored LOL. I'm coming in October the forums have been very helpful learning more and more I get more experience every time I visit. I appreciate all your guys info.

Check out caddylax on dia. She might be able to help you out. X.

[QUOTE=BGolf74;1310877]Does anyone know any cam site where there are only cebu girls? Or which is the best phillipine cam site to have some fun and possibly meet the girl? Sorry if this question is not meant for this section obviously I'm new LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Barba; 1311394]Do not bother with the skanky virgin teens that are chasing dreams on DIA or other social sites.

B.[/QUOTE]Barba. Ypo don't chase those virgins but I know what you do like. Maybe in a few months there is someone you can meet LOL

[QUOTE=Barba; 1311394]Yes, BGolf74 join the winners and stick to the hoes in Cebu. They have fucked 1000 "phorigners" before you and knows exactly when to say "ooh" and "ahh". In bars, on the street corners and the P4P hangouts in the malls you will find the freshest, cutest, prettiest and sweetest girls. The more time the spend working as cum receptacles, the sweeter they will get. Do not bother with the skanky virgin teens that are chasing dreams on DIA or other social sites.

B.[/QUOTE]There is a big difference between checking out DIA a few weeks before actually traveling to Cebu and getting some contacts, and spending months and months chatting and obsessing. I'm sure we all use DIA and other webpages to a certain extent, (I found my present GF on a dating site ONCE I WAS ACTUALLY IN CEBU), but there are a few forum members who have been agonizing over DIA girls for months and seem to have not even come close to purchasing their airline tickets. I am referring to these guys.

Despite rumours to the contrary the immigration still gave me a 21 day visa on arrival.

Seems that the recently announced increase in tourists in the first half of this year (all over the news) could mean the government won't change the rules (?) as lots more people are still visiting regardless. Bizarre logic if it does happen but this is PI and there is no logic to many things

[QUOTE=David_33;1311588]There is a big difference between checking out DIA a few weeks before actually traveling to Cebu and getting some contacts, and spending months and months chatting and obsessing. I'm sure we all use DIA and other webpages to a certain extent, (I found my present GF on a dating site ONCE I WAS ACTUALLY IN CEBU), but there are a few forum members who have been agonizing over DIA girls for months and seem to have not even come close to purchasing their airline tickets. I am referring to these guys.[/QUOTE]Some of the newer crop of members that have taken up residence over on the chat rooms thread during the past six months have been handing out DIA profiles and telling everyone to contact them. Wow, all that goodness and civility out of the purity of there hearts? Bless those little gremlins, Gee they must really want us to meet some cute filipinas in need of some pesos and all because they care so so much that our dicks go without bilat juice for even one day!

My thought, they are NGO busy-bodies, or some net trolls looking to complicate lives of a few sexpats who are not net-savy or wise to there game. They create fake filipina profiles, then give out the profiles to any and all. They say "oh but she seems so nice and horny, if only I can visit her but I cannot right now so I give out her profile and small background info as an offering to those more fortunate to be visiting the RP soon". Boooo-Hoooo hooooo.

To the guys who took the bait and contacted the filipinas on offer, you better have been wise enough to use a fake name on your dating profile and give out a monger use FB and YM profile and to keep your life back in your country of residence private. Otherwise if you give out your personal info to trolls or NGO parasites disguised as simple filipinas you could be in for more 'fun' than you expected.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1311617]Despite rumours to the contrary the immigration still gave me a 21 day visa on arrival.

Seems that the recently announced increase in tourists in the first half of this year (all over the news) could mean the government won't change the rules (?) as lots more people are still visiting regardless. Bizarre logic if it does happen but this is PI and there is no logic to many things[/QUOTE]Yes, the tourist visa is currently still 21 days. The increase to 30 days has no firm implementation date.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1311707]Yes, the tourist visa is currently still 21 days. The increase to 30 days has no firm implementation date.[/QUOTE]Filipino efficiency: Count on January. 2017 for that 30-day visa to take place.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1311617]Despite rumours to the contrary the immigration still gave me a 21 day visa on arrival.

Seems that the recently announced increase in tourists in the first half of this year (all over the news) could mean the government won't change the rules (?) as lots more people are still visiting regardless. Bizarre logic if it does happen but this is PI and there is no logic to many things[/QUOTE]I posted on another thread about how this was still going through the processes and was not yet a law. Check out the website WR [url]http://immigration.gov.ph/[/url]

At least the departure tax (200 php) in Manila is now (as from August 1) included in the ticket. Not sure about Cebu yet.

If ticket was booked before Aug 1, it still must be paid as before at the regular windows.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1311731]I posted on another thread about how this was still going through the processes and was not yet a law. Check out the website WR.

[url]http://immigration.gov.ph/[/url]

At least the departure tax (200 php) in Manila is now (as from August 1) included in the ticket. Not sure about Cebu yet.

If ticket was booked before Aug 1, it still must be paid as before at the regular windows.[/QUOTE]Saw that bit forgot LOL Must be age or that am tired LOL.

As for whether the 200 pesos is included for Cebu am sure the country's great efficiencies will make sure this is done buy 2017 as SA said earlier. But reall it is up to the airlines to do

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1311738]Saw that bit forgot LOL Must be age or that am tired LOL.

As for whether the 200 pesos is included for Cebu am sure the country's great efficiencies will make sure this is done buy 2017 as SA said earlier. But reall it is up to the airlines to do[/QUOTE]I've been paying that annoying P500 (or is it now P550) foreigner departure tax. Always have to be sure I have just enough pesos left to cover airport taxi and that tax.

Makes me laugh how they have that counter, carefully hand the tax tix to me and then in less than another metre it is collected by another person. Having the airlines include it will dramatically improve the net bottom line to the airport assuming they reduce staff accordingly.

BD

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1311731]I posted on another thread about how this was still going through the processes and was not yet a law. Check out the website WR.

[url]http://immigration.gov.ph/[/url]

At least the departure tax (200 php) in Manila is now (as from August 1) included in the ticket. Not sure about Cebu yet.

If ticket was booked before Aug 1, it still must be paid as before at the regular windows.[/QUOTE]Yes. One more point, we have to make sure to have copy of the e-ticket while asking for exception from departure tax, otherwise, you would end up paying both on ticket as well as on the counter.

Ohh. Not that easy, I just Googled it for more info as the days pass on, new stuff comes up.

[url]http://manilastandardtoday.com/2012/08/02/airport-fee-rules-clarified/[/url]

Airport fee rules clarified.

THE Manila International Airport Authority has started integrating the P200 domestic terminal fee in the airline tickets but clarified that it only covers departures from Terminals 2, 3 and 4 of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport.

The Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines clarified that domestic passengers boarding at all other airports will still have to pay the terminal fee at designated counters of their airport of origin.

The terminal fee for international airline companies, according to MIAA General Manager Angel Honrado, shall eventually be included in the cost of a ticket when the second phase of the integration project gets implemented.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1311706]Some of the newer crop of members that have taken up residence over on the chat rooms thread during the past six months have been handing out DIA profiles and telling everyone to contact them. Wow, all that goodness and civility out of the purity of there hearts? Bless those little gremlins, Gee they must really want us to meet some cute filipinas in need of some pesos and all because they care so so much that our dicks go without bilat juice for even one day!

My thought, they are NGO busy-bodies, or some net trolls looking to complicate lives of a few sexpats who are not net-savy or wise to there game. They create fake filipina profiles, then give out the profiles to any and all. They say "oh but she seems so nice and horny, if only I can visit her but I cannot right now so I give out her profile and small background info as an offering to those more fortunate to be visiting the RP soon". Boooo-Hoooo hooooo.

To the guys who took the bait and contacted the filipinas on offer, you better have been wise enough to use a fake name on your dating profile and give out a monger use FB and YM profile and to keep your life back in your country of residence private. Otherwise if you give out your personal info to trolls or NGO parasites disguised as simple filipinas you could be in for more 'fun' than you expected.[/QUOTE]Yes I think guys who have to follow links to dia that get posted here from any one needs to question why the links are getting posted. I use this site to find out if guys know a girl and for that you only need to post your own photos, I notice that some trolls claim to know a girl but have no photos to prove they met.

As for the NGO they are using forums and it is easy to see why, some guys do not follow rules here, they are probably the same guys who can not follow laws, so they make good targets for the NGO to get more funding.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1312091]As for the NGO they are using forums and it is easy to see why, some guys do not follow rules here, they are probably the same guys who can not follow laws, so they make good targets for the NGO to get more funding.[/QUOTE]It would be more cost effective to set up a couple of fake profiles and direct stupid people to them. It costs less than trying to police ie visit bars and interview girls.

I guess the sad thing is they will catch people, but only the stupid ones.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1312091]Yes I think guys who have to follow links to dia that get posted here from any one needs to question why the links are getting posted. I use this site to find out if guys know a girl and for that you only need to post your own photos, I notice that some trolls claim to know a girl but have no photos to prove they met.

As for the NGO they are using forums and it is easy to see why, some guys do not follow rules here, they are probably the same guys who can not follow laws, so they make good targets for the NGO to get more funding.[/QUOTE]Frenzy,

Had a member send me a few DIA profiles via PM. He told me "tell her you are a friend of (insert name)." I assume he sent the same profile message to a few ISG members and used a different name on each message to make it easy to tell who was who. I deleted the message and did not bother to check out the profiles.

The sharing of DIA or other contact info on p4p girls from one senior member to another (with the girls approval) has been happening forever on ISG and has resulted in many happy encounters. Alot of the senior members have met one another or have mutual friends on the board and most of the time things go smooth. The red flags start to go up when a newbie wants to help me out and I don't know him from a bucket of spicy chicken joy.

A 36yr old filipina and a 46yr old male from the USA have been arrested in Cebu for pimping out her 14 and 15yr old daughters and according to one of the daughters the mom and the 46yr old dude also sold there younger siblings back in Leyte.

I dunno WTF that guy was thinking, but if the story is true he will have alot of time to think in jail. He might want to brush up on his dance moves because he will be dancing to Michael Jackson in his orange jumpsuit the rest of his life.

Another example of a foreigner who got off the plane and thought no one would notice or care what he did because he was in a third-world country. NGO's will use this story to publicize and promote there mission statement for the next 24months.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/08/10/mom-seized-cebu-pimping-girls-236686[/url]

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1313654]A 36yr old filipina and a 46yr old male from the USA have been arrested in Cebu for pimping out her 14 and 15yr old daughters and according to one of the daughters the mom and the 46yr old dude also sold there younger siblings back in Leyte.

I dunno WTF that guy was thinking, but if the story is true he will have alot of time to think in jail. He might want to brush up on his dance moves because he will be dancing to Michael Jackson in his orange jumpsuit the rest of his life.

Another example of a foreigner who got off the plane and thought no one would notice or care what he did because he was in a third-world country. NGO's will use this story to publicize and promote there mission statement for the next 24months.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/08/10/mom-seized-cebu-pimping-girls-236686[/url][/QUOTE]If this is true "Timagos said Jane ran and hid in the ladies' room to avoid her mother. Out of fear, Jane confessed to her teacher that she was being pimped by her mother at night. She also said Roger maltreated and abused her. Jane recently moved in with her grandmother, Dina's mother, who supported Jane's accusation against Dina.

'We saw her mother (Dina) on Pelaez St. Standing together with the American national. Her older sister was there, prompting us to arrest their mother, ' added Timagos.

Based on their investigation, Timagos said Jane's older sister was pimped, prompting them to rescue her.

Timagos said prostitutes usually hang out in the area where the suspects were arrested." and since the cops here are not dumb these people need to rot in jail

The kids and their grandma is saying they did it.

I have searched this section but didnot see anything recent. Will be traveling to Cebu for the first time ever! What's the situation there in a nutshell? I understand there is Mango square area with bars. What girly bars are good and what can you get there? What are the rules and the scams? I have been to Thailand a few times, is it similar?

What about freelancers in the mall? What's the standard gift amount? How about asking a girl to accompany you to a resort for a few days? How much should I be awarding her?

Thanks for help in advance!

[QUOTE=Start123; 1313943]I have searched this section but didnot see anything recent. Will be traveling to Cebu for the first time ever! What's the situation there in a nutshell? I understand there is Mango square area with bars. What girly bars are good and what can you get there? What are the rules and the scams? I have been to Thailand a few times, is it similar?

What about freelancers in the mall? What's the standard gift amount? How about asking a girl to accompany you to a resort for a few days? How much should I be awarding her?

Thanks for help in advance![/QUOTE]I am dumbfounded that you can say "I have searched this section but did not see anything recent".

I follow this section closely and there are usually 3 or 4 helpful posts EVERY day about Cebu.

All of your questions are answered in the top 3 Cebu threads. You need to search back around 2 or 3 pages on each thread.

The situation "in a nutshell" is that Cebu is a very hot mongering destination as the threads testify

Went to the bars and none would admit allowing bar fines. I am sure there is a way around it but I would not bother. Found yet another hottie in Mango Square tonight from 1. 5 hours north of Cebu. She comes in on weekends to meet tourists. Inexperienced so I needed to be a bit tolerant-ended sex session a bit prematurely. Yet really pretty, soft skin. 19 yo, totally non-pro acting (although pro technically). Spent the day with a 20 yo DIA girl who it turns out dated one of Roger's mates 2 weeks ago. Thanks to Frenzy and Roger for their advise. They are both gentlemen and scholars.

[QUOTE=El Greco; 1309653]"The reckoning of the 21 days begins on the day after arrival in the Philippines and this visa-free stay allows for regular tourism and business meetings."

[url]http://www.philippineconsulate.com.au/visas.html[/url]

All over the world the day of arrival and departure do count. It seems that in Philippines they exercise a different procedure.

I was not aware of it so I booked my tickets to exit on the 21st day. Next time I might use that extra day.

Thanks[/QUOTE]If you take a look in your passport, you can check out your prior Philippine arrival stamps. Each is dated the day you arrive and also has a date for your departure entered. That day has always been 21 days after my entry date. For example: Arrived July 5, Departure date July 26.

[QUOTE=Start123; 1313943]I have searched this section but didnot see anything recent. Will be traveling to Cebu for the first time ever! What's the situation there in a nutshell? I understand there is Mango square area with bars. What girly bars are good and what can you get there? What are the rules and the scams? I have been to Thailand a few times, is it similar?

What about freelancers in the mall? What's the standard gift amount? How about asking a girl to accompany you to a resort for a few days? How much should I be awarding her?

Thanks for help in advance![/QUOTE]In a nutshell you can pay as low as 600 to as high as 8000. Where ever you see a girl who wants you and you have cash that will get her to your room.

[QUOTE=David_33;1311588].but there are a few forum members who have been agonizing over DIA girls for months and seem to have not even come close to purchasing their airline tickets. I am referring to these guys.[/QUOTE]Then I must fully agree. If there are actually guys chatting with females and pretending that they will visit the Philippines, it is just really sad. To call such a man a looser, would be too harsh, David. That guy is just a very sad and selfish wreck. I think I do not follow ISG close enough because I never detected any users that I suspected to live purely a monger fantasy life behind the keyboard. I read about them, but never manage to figure out whom people refer to.

I work behind the computer and enjoy to have some social site on one monitor. Association contacts are fun. And sometimes it takes 2-3 months before I meet the girl, but the advantage is that you know each other well and do not have to waste valuable field time before ripping the panties of her teenage body. To seduce via the chat or a social site is an art. A tier 1 teenage girl will be easier for me to work on a social site than to catch her on the fly, and chat her up. If I only apply this strategy I will end up with the ones that used to be tier 1, at best. At least a part (the best part) of the girls I aim for, will require me to be a bit more dedicated. I understand the strategy of logging into some sites just 2-3 weeks before you land, but for some places and some type of girls, it will just not work well enough. Some girls will need to know you well to feel comfortable. We need to adapt the strategy to the target group, right? I find that you can most often forget that you chat up a teen model or prepare a virgin (a real one and not the fantasy virgins I read about here) mentally in just 2 weeks. Maybe Cebu is different from other places I have been, but the 5-6 times I was in Cebu I mostly met teenage and 21-22 year old pros that I in all honesty I would reject in another setting. The one girl I really liked would only agree to jerk me off because she felt she did not know me well enough to let me open up her tiny little pussy (and now she has a baby so that train left the station).

B.

I have had spotty luck with the mall freelancers. Since they usually stay for only one pop, I give them 1k plus a hundred for taxi. If I've been treated very well, I tend to go to 1, 500.

The beach gals, you should probably think about the same, but of course you'll be paying for all her food, transport, expenses and maybe a swimsuit or t'shirt here or there. The last gal I took to the beach had a regular job and wouldn't take any money. But of course I paid for all expenses. I tend to give my beach date a few thousand right up front. Partly to give them peace of mind, but also if my wallet goes missing, we still have some money.

A lot of the bar girls won't go to the beach unless you pay some kind of long-term bar fine. I prefer to find a gal online. Good luck. X.

[QUOTE=Start123; 1313943]SNIP.

What about freelancers in the mall? What's the standard gift amount? How about asking a girl to accompany you to a resort for a few days? How much should I be awarding her?

Thanks for help in advance![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Barba; 1314650]The one girl I really liked would only agree to jerk me off because she felt she did not know me well enough to let me open up her tiny little pussy.

B.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good post [B]Barba[/B], written from the heart. This sentence stood out to me. I have visited Cebu three times in the past 9 months. Easy to find mall girls and online dates using the websites 2-3 weeks out- which has been by MO each time. But now, there is one lady whom I have dated twice, she likes me well enough to give me a BBBJ but not well enough to get into her pussy. Now, on my next trip she will date me again and promises to stay the night.

What is interesting though is the various tiers that we have to work through. Landing into town for a few days will not grant access to the higher tiers. Too fast for the quality ladies.

But to be fair though, some of the girls whom do accommodate our short term punting plans are still pretty awesome!

BD

With my limited Cebu experience I am still awestruck by the talent pool.

I have posted earlier about by MO of connecting via the dating sites 2 weeks out. On each of my visits there is always such a new pool of talent looking to meet up.

When I try and contact prospects that I didn't meet just three months ago, their mobiles don't answer or are disconnected. Yep, they do change numbers frequently but I also thinking many of them don't date like this anymore, have met a partner (you!) or have simply moved on. In each case though they have been replaced with new babes.

When I browse dating sites here on home soil, they are the same ladies whom have been there for years.

The Philippines is just such a rich vein of talent.

Happy times.

BD

Yes living here I get offers all the time, hence my number of gf, I boot out any that lie or have attitude, I pick the looks I like before I let them live with me, as some have stayed on for years.

Gentlemen,

I get quoted 7k for a round-trip to Argao and 5k to Toledo at the Marriott.

I am not keen on the 3-5 hour drive and the M limo would drive over there, pick up her and bring her to the M.

Now how would I do this with a taxi and how much cheaper would it be.

Thanks

[QUOTE=PigGagaFunf; 1315729]Gentlemen,

I get quoted 7k for a round-trip to Argao and 5k to Toledo at the Marriott.

I am not keen on the 3-5 hour drive and the M limo would drive over there, pick up her and bring her to the M.

Now how would I do this with a taxi and how much cheaper would it be.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Less than 50% but she can get a taxi / V-car (van?) herself and you can pay when it arrives at the M. I have done this before and is much cheaper.

[QUOTE=PigGagaFunf; 1315729]Gentlemen,

I get quoted 7k for a round-trip to Argao and 5k to Toledo at the Marriott.

I am not keen on the 3-5 hour drive and the M limo would drive over there, pick up her and bring her to the M.

Now how would I do this with a taxi and how much cheaper would it be.

Thanks[/QUOTE]They come from those places by bus for me, cheap. Why taxi, why you go there? She comes to you, and by bus.

[QUOTE=PigGagaFunf; 1315729]I get quoted 7k for a round-trip to Argao and 5k to Toledo at the Marriott.

I am not keen on the 3-5 hour drive and the M limo would drive over there, pick up her and bring her to the M.

Now how would I do this with a taxi and how much cheaper would it be.[/QUOTE]Highly doubt that Marriott has a limousine on call more likely a sedan or van. Round trip taxi fare to Toledo should be between 1200-1500php but of course they will start out asking for more. Argao around 2000+. Bus or V-hire would be the more sensible way to go but if you insist on a taxi, call Ken's or Scorpion taxi service as they are straight shooters. Many locals believe that outside the city the only people that ride taxis are prostitutes and foreigners!

[quote=stroker ace88; 1310117]has anyone checked out the first 7-11 in cebu which opened a few days ago on escario? any other locations?

just wondering.[/quote]yup there is a location in jy and another in the tune complex. good for those of us who sometimes jones for a slurpee!

[quote=mattrick;1315967]yup there is a location in jy and another in the tune complex. good for those of us who sometimes jones for a slurpee![/quote]yes they are doing well,

Correct. The Marriott's limo is a Chevy.

I am not going there; I want them to come over.

They do not have the the means for a bus-ride and they haven't asked me for "help".

A taxi would give me control of their arrival (or not) and I can plan my day better, with the ones I am with. (I wouldn't want to have wasted a day in anticipation / expectation and all the grief that goes with the 269 texts of the adventure.)

Noted the belief that only prostitutes & foreigners ride taxis. Not good for the girls.

Can you buy Cialis or Viagra at the pharmacies in Cebu? I know you can get it outside robinsons but I don't really want to buy off the street. I was just curious if you can get it at the pharmacies and how much does it cost?

apparently caltex (chevron-texaco brand) signed and agreement to turn all of their minimarts to 7-11 franchises.

[quote=mattrick;1315967]yup there is a location in jy and another in the tune complex. good for those of us who sometimes jones for a slurpee![/quote]

I bought from Metro Pharmacy but they ask for a prescription. Just tell them you are a tourist and don't have it with you. They never refused me.

[QUOTE=BGolf74;1317801]Can you buy Cialis or Viagra at the pharmacies in Cebu? I know you can get it outside robinsons but I don't really want to buy off the street. I was just curious if you can get it at the pharmacies and how much does it cost?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1317985]I bought from Metro Pharmacy but they ask for a prescription. Just tell them you are a tourist and don't have it with you. They never refused me.[/QUOTE]I recall reading something like this as a part of Singapore travel forum for visitors to Sing. Never thought of using to source Viagra.

I will try thi. I don't the stuff in Aust but 2-3 Pinay per day puts me past my mid-life limits.

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1317985]I bought from Metro Pharmacy but they ask for a prescription. Just tell them you are a tourist and don't have it with you. They never refused me.[/QUOTE]Saw this on Lonely Planets.

[QUOTE]If you happen to take any regular medication bring double your needs in case of loss or theft. In most Southeast Asian countries, excluding Singapore, you can buy many medications over the counter without a doctor's prescription, but it can be difficult to find some of the newer drugs, particularly the latest antidepressant drugs, contraceptive pills and blood-pressure medications.[/QUOTE]Read more:

[url]http://www.lonelyplanet.com/philippines/practical-information/health#ixzz24EQzOOx2[/url]

Surely Viagra would be a big seller in Cebu.

[QUOTE=BGolf74;1317801]Can you buy Cialis or Viagra at the pharmacies in Cebu? I know you can get it outside robinsons but I don't really want to buy off the street. I was just curious if you can get it at the pharmacies and how much does it cost?[/QUOTE]Yes, you can buy VitaminV and C in Cebu pharmacies. It's more expensive but it's better than the fake crap they sell outside Robinsons and around Fuente. Try Mercury drugs right on Fuente. If they refuse go into another pharmacy and you should get what you want.

I have also found that male pharmacy assistants rarely ask me for a prescription, but many females will ask. Sometimes you have no control over who serves you because of the priority number system but getting a guy to serve you helps. I would also suggest you write down the name of the drug you want on a small slip of paper and include the generic equivalent if you are shy. Sometimes there can be as many as 30 people waiting at the counter and asking for VIAGRA in front of everyone will bring about some strange looks from the mostly older aunties and lola's.

Enjoy Cebu.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain; 1318151]Saw this on Lonely Planets.

[SNIP]Surely Viagra would be a big seller in Cebu.[/QUOTE]No Viagra is not a big seller. Smaller pharmacies don't stock it. It's mostly foreigners who buy it. From what I am told the locals use balut with a red horse chaser. Supposed to raise even the limpest of noodles, but I can't speak from experience. I just can't get past the beak. Bleeaach!

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1318244]Yes, you can buy VitaminV and C in Cebu pharmacies. It's more expensive but it's better than the fake crap they sell outside Robinsons and around Fuente. Try Mercury drugs right on Fuente. If they refuse go into another pharmacy and you should get what you want.

I have also found that male pharmacy assistants rarely ask me for a prescription, but many females will ask. Sometimes you have no control over who serves you because of the priority number system but getting a guy to serve you helps. I would also suggest you write down the name of the drug you want on a small slip of paper and include the generic equivalent if you are shy. Sometimes there can be as many as 30 people waiting at the counter and asking for VIAGRA in front of everyone will bring about some strange looks from the mostly older aunties and lola's.

Enjoy Cebu.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips on the shop assistants. I'll try on Sunday afternoon.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1318620]Thanks for the tips on the shop assistants. I'll try on Sunday afternoon.[/QUOTE]You are welcome.

Enjoy Cebu.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1318979]You are welcome.

Enjoy Cebu.[/QUOTE]One question. Do you suggest asking for a particular gram tablet or are they standard pack sizes? Just so I don't sound like a noob.

Wikipedia tells me:

[QUOTE]Viagra pills are blue and diamond-shaped with the word "Pfizer" engraved on one side, and "VGR xx" (where xx stands for "25", "50" or "100", the dose of that pill in milligrams) engraved on the other. The dose of sildenafil for erectile dysfunction is 25 mg to 100 mg taken not more than once per day between 30 minutes and 4 hours prior.[/quote]

[QUOTE=BrainDrain; 1319223]One question. Do you suggest asking for a particular gram tablet or are they standard pack sizes? Just so I don't sound like a noob.[/QUOTE]I would ask for Viagra. If you are shy write it on a slip of paper and hand it over when your priority number is called. Most of the places like Mercury drugs might only carry one size tablet and the pharmacist will return with the boxes and inform you about tablet size options (if any). I would inquire about the price at that time before handing over any money because some pharmacies price per box and some are per tablet.

Enjoy Cebu.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1319480]I would ask for Viagra. If you are shy write it on a slip of paper and hand it over when your priority number is called. Most of the places like Mercury drugs might only carry one size tablet and the pharmacist will return with the boxes and inform you about tablet size options (if any). I would inquire about the price at that time before handing over any money because some pharmacies price per box and some are per tablet.

Enjoy Cebu.[/QUOTE]Go to the chemist in the alley between Feuente Circle and llorente Street the ally in Feuente circle has a KFC at the entrance to it, It is a generic pharmacy little to no queues and I have had good service (tablets) from there every time.

[QUOTE=Col Law;1319483]Go to the chemist in the alley between Feuente Circle and llorente Street the ally in Feuente circle has a KFC at the entrance to it, It is a generic pharmacy little to no queues and I have had good service (tablets) from there every time.[/QUOTE]As it turned out I didn't have time to try this pharmacy before girl #1. While waiting for #2 I just walked into a random one at Ayala. It was Rose Pharmacy. I had the name written upon my iphone notepad. Just showed that to the female attendant as there were no males around. A few minutes later I walked out with a supply 4 tabs. They were happy to sell me whatever.

I was a little surprised at the price though. It was about P3, 000 for 4 50mg tabs.

Anyway, girl #2 showed. She seemed to have a good night and morning.

Happy hunting guys.

BD

Hey, I am planning another trip to Cebu I September, perhaps combined with an Angeles City visit. Last time I met the nicest girls / had the best time in the Mango Ave girlybars but also had two successful DIA hookups and some good times at Juliana's at mango Square mall, now called J. Ave I see, all in all I had a good time in Cebu!

I have started the DIA and tagged. Com hunt as I find it pretty entertaining / exciting to do some of the work before the actual trip hehe, but I need an advice I was contacted by a "joeven" on DIA, saying she wants discreet sex but I am suspicious when she asked me about my cock size and when I gave here the length and girth in centimeters she wanted me to convert it to inches, I thought it was almost only Americans that used inches? Do some phils girls don't know the metric system? I don't want to sit and flirt online with some fat american bloke haha

By posting her DIA I'd she is now going to have a ton of people atleast going to her profile and perhaps plenty of takers. With no photo, I would definately cam with this girl and careful she is married.

I would not worry about her asking your cock size, also plenty of metric conversion websites.

Inches and you should cam then that way you will know it is not a fat American guy or worse (?) a LB. Always C2C as the only way and if no cam don't bother IMHO.

Girls always ask size wherever in the world you LOL

[QUOTE=Col Law;1319483]Go to the chemist in the alley between Feuente Circle and llorente Street the ally in Feuente circle has a KFC at the entrance to it, It is a generic pharmacy little to no queues and I have had good service (tablets) from there every time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. I've taken my own when going to Cebu, but would not mind buying locally if not too steep in price. How much does that place charge?

Thanks guys, she seems pretty believable in our mail conversations, she sent photos that looked "real" etc, perhaps I do some cam-session later but I am not too worried as I am not spending too much time / effort on any particular DIA girl. But I got surprised about her using inches, all I found on internet pointed to Phils using metrics system?

[QUOTE=MrHombre;1320805]Thanks for the tip. I've taken my own when going to Cebu, but would not mind buying locally if not too steep in price. How much does that place charge?[/QUOTE]I do not know the up to date price, but that place is certainly the cheapest legit retailer I have found.

[QUOTE=Wiild;1320985]Thanks guys, she seems pretty believable in our mail conversations, she sent photos that looked "real" etc, perhaps I do some cam-session later but I am not too worried as I am not spending too much time / effort on any particular DIA girl. But I got surprised about her using inches, all I found on internet pointed to Phils using metrics system?[/QUOTE]If she seems tok good to be true. Then she is and is a LB LOL.

Cam with this person, call her on YM or Skype and hear the voice. If you don't you maybe surprised / disappointed. One of my good ISG mates who told me he could spot a LB at a "thousand yards" was 'surprised' twice in Cebu as he broke his own rules. He relied on the DIA / FC picture not a C2C session. I found it amusing but he did not LOL

Day 4, Tuesday: Cebu.

I didn't sleep well as my meeting with Lina in Manila Bay Café was playing on my mind. The walls are thin in Amazonia so I lay awake listening to the groans coming from the room next door. The man definitely wanted value for money. After they'the fucked for the second time the girl wanted to sleep and an argument ensued. Minutes later the headboard was banging against my wall again.

In the morning I took a metered taxi from Ermita to Terminal 3 of Nino Aquino airport. The driver was a character. We talked the whole journey and he told me about his 19 year old niece who is a nurse."She is very beautiful" he told me,"would you like her mobile number?". The flight took an hour and as ever I was impressed by the quality of stewardesses that Cebu Pacific employ. I got a taxi from the front of Mactan Airport and felt excited to be back in Cebu. I'd enjoyed my visit two years ago and wondered whether I would meet any girls of the same quality.

Once again I stayed at BEVERLEY BOUTIQUE HOTEL. It was formerly known as Eddies but has rebranded itself as a business / boutique hotel to attract higher paying customers. When I told the taxi-driver 'Beverley Boutique' I was greeted with a blank stare. I explained where it was (on F. Manalo, next to Iglesia Ni Cristo church) and he said "Ah, you mean Eddies"! It's the perfect location for the Mango gogo bars and is girl-friendly. My standard room cost 1480 pesos per night. It had air-con, its own bathroom and a TV but it didn't have a safe or fridge.

It was early evening so after a shower and a meal in the excellent restaurant downstairs, it was time for me to hit the gogo bars. The main gogo area in Cebu is located on General Maxilom Avenue, next to the huge Iglesia Ni Cristo church. On one side of the road is Viking, BG's Bar and Erik The Red, all of which look deceptively small from the outside but are large inside. The next block contains Planet X (formerly Hot Rod) and Sisters. On the opposite side of the street are Pussycats, Dimples, Love City and Papillon. They look more impressive with bright neon signs but two years ago only Pussycats impressed me. The others were over-priced and despite being aimed at big-spending Koreans, they had the same quality of girls as the cheaper bars over the road. This is the main concentration of gogo bars in Cebu although a short walk away are Lone Star and Red Lips, both of which I planned to visit.

The time was 8. 30pm when I walked down the stairs and entered VIKING. It's a large basement filled with red sofas facing a stage. Only one girl was dancing with half a dozen sat on couches at the side. I sat on a stool at the bar and bought myself a San Miguel light for 50 pesos. It's not the easiest bar to survey the talent as the girls sit in a dark corner but I was soon joined by a pretty girl called Nerce (an 8/10 on my scale). She was 22 and as well as long curly hair and a sexy figure, she had a bubbly personality. I bought her a lady-drink for 150 pesos and we played pool. She beat me in one frame by wiggling her bum in my line of vision as I tried to pot the black. It worked, she had a nice bum. I decided that she'd be a good option for later. By the time I left at 9. 30pm the place was busy with customers. There were probably 20 girls in total, including a few very pretty ones.

Next door is BG'S BIKINI BAR. It's a more intimate venue that gives you a better view of the girls. Only one was dancing, a fair-haired girl with large, firm (but almost certainly fake) tits. 20 girls were crowded on to the couches in front of the stage, some of whom were very attractive. I bought a San Miguel for 60 pesos and waited for the big-boobed blond to finish dancing. Disappointingly, she went to sit with a customer at the back of the room. Two Korean men walked in and had the mamasan line all of the girls up in front of them so they could choose their companion. The girl next to me said "Koreans rude, no respect" which sums up my opinion of them.

It gave me chance to survey the talent and I was impressed. My favourite was a cute girl who looked fresh to the business. The bar-fine in BG's is 1700 pesos, great value considering the quality of girls.

Two years ago I fucked a girl from Hot Rod, who memorably turned out to be a virgin. Hot Rod is now PLANET X. There is a square stage in the centre, surrounded by comfy seating. Three girls were dancing on the stage when I walked in and about 30 were dotted around the bar. All were young. I ordered a beer (65 pesos) and immediately a girl with a 7/10 face and a 9/10 body sat next to me. Her name was Gemma and she was very flirty, rubbing her hand up and down my leg. A waitress asked whether I'd like to buy her a lady-drink. When I agreed the waitress said "Baileys. 300 pesos, is that okay sir?". I know I could have insisted on a 'single' for 150 pesos but I don't like looking a cheapskate in front of a girl I might want to fuck later. Gemma gave lots of sexy vibes so I asked about her bar-fine. It was 2000 pesos but she suggested that we could meet at my hotel when she finished work at 3. 30am. It would save me paying the bar-fine and she'd get more too, without the bar taking their cut. (please note, for the sake of this diary, I've changed her name to Gemma to protect her in case the management at Planet X ever read this). I knew I'd be asleep by then so suggested we could meet next afternoon and I'd pay her 1500 for 2 hours. We agreed to meet at 1. 30pm at Bo's Coffee Shop.

Planet X is a mixed bag. It has a great layout with more girls than other Mango gogo bars and some pretty ones too. But it's more expensive and there is too much pressure to buy lady-drinks.

It was 10. 30pm and time to pick a girl. There were a few candidates but my favourite was Nerce as she seemed likely to provide the 'girlfriend sex' I was after. I entered Viking but couldn't see her. I asked a waitress but was told that Nerce was 'absent' which I interpreted to mean that she'd been bar-fined. That's the danger when you like to bar-hop like me.

I returned to BG's and watched a sleazy girl with tattoos gyrate sexily on stage. She had big tits and a slutty appeal with far too much make-up, but when she finished she walked to another customer. It was a shame, she'd be an interesting fuck. Standing nearby at the bar was a tall girl with pale skin who looked Japanese. I bought her a lady-drink (150 pesos) and we chatted. Her name was Angel and she was good fun, the type who'd probably provide a good service. I decided that she'd be a good choice so paid her 1700 peso bar-fine. I hoped Angel might be a devil in the bedroom as we left hand-in-hand.

It took two minutes for us to walk back to my hotel. As soon as she entered my room her personality changed. I switched the TV on so that we could find a movie on 'Star Movies' (she told me that she loves movies in the bar) but she acted surprised."You want to watch a movie?" she said,"I'm here for short-time, you need to ask in bar if you want longer". Her cold business-like attitude was a turn-off. You expect it in Amsterdam ("50 Euros, suck and fuck, two positions") but not in Asia. Last time I was in Cebu all three girls I bar-fined stayed all night without question.

It went down-hill from there. She told me that she hated her job and that she cried the first time she had a customer, an old Japanese man. One of my rules of sex tours is that I will never fuck a girl who doesn't want to be in the industry but on the other hand, I'd paid her bar-fine and if she doesn't want to fuck customers, she's in the wrong job. When I pointed this out to her she told me that she had a kid and was doing it for him.

I weighed up the situation and told her that my only option was to take her back to the bar and get a refund on the bar-fine."But I'll get in to trouble" she said sadly. She was expecting me to pay her bar-fine and get nothing in return! I stood up and told her to put her clothes back on.

She quickly changed her tune. She pulled me towards her and a few minutes later I was fucking her. She groaned loudly, a loud, fake groan, like she was trying to make me finish sooner. We did a few positionss and as I was fucking her doggy-style, she looked over her shoulder and said "finish, okay?". Again it reminded me of fucking a prostitute in Amsterdam's red light district. I told her 'you on top' and she rode me to a climax. As we were getting changed afterwards she told me that in three months she'd only slept with six customers.

What a strange experience. I'd wanted 'girlfriend sex' but I'd got a girl with attitude who hated her job (in stark contrast to how fun and flirty she had been in the bar!). On the plus side, it was my fourth fuck of the trip and I had seen some pretty girls on my bar-crawl, some of whom would be good options for another night. I'd also arranged a daytime meet with Gemma from Planet X for the next day. Things were happening.

(The previous three days appeared on the Manila thread. Please note that my visit was in March this year but I haven't had chance to post it before now).

[QUOTE=Wiild; 1320622]Hey, I am planning another trip to Cebu I September, perhaps combined with an Angeles City visit. Last time I met the nicest girls / had the best time in the Mango Ave girlybars but also had two successful DIA hookups and some good times at Juliana's at mango Square mall, now called J. Ave I see, all in all I had a good time in Cebu!

I have started the DIA and tagged. Com hunt as I find it pretty entertaining / exciting to do some of the work before the actual trip hehe, but I need an advice I was contacted by a "joeven" on DIA, saying she wants discreet sex but I am suspicious when she asked me about my cock size and when I gave here the length and girth in centimeters she wanted me to convert it to inches, I thought it was almost only Americans that used inches? Do some phils girls don't know the metric system? I don't want to sit and flirt online with some fat american bloke haha[/QUOTE]Any filipina that wants you to send her your johnson measurements in inches (including girth) and has no pic posted on her-his dating profile is a LB without question. Only a 'size queen' would ever ask for your measurements before meeting, and most of those are chubby western woman looking to fill up their rather large void.

Unless the crying game is to your taste drop this one. I would also encourage you to cam-cam with all filipinas before meeting to check that her looks matches her profile pic as others have suggested.

A few minutes of chat and cam time is priceless.

Thank you Sir Lancelot for your play by play. I've been there, done that, but it's interesting nevertheless. Since some of the Cebu bars were recently raided, it's probably not such a good idea to be so explicit about the p4p situation, but I guess it can't be helped.

I do want to make a few comments about what you wrote below. I also find it annoying when they do the lineup, but like you it has given me an opportunity to size up the dancers. In AC they typically put as many gals on stage as possible, but in a big place like Viking, you often see one at a time.

As for the stereotype about Koreans, I see plenty of Koreans sitting and chatting and spending money with the gals. I like to chat with the girls and get to know them, but for someone with no English skills this might be a waste of time and money. I also see that many of the gals who get in the lineup are doing their best to get picked. So not all of the ladies are as discerning as the one you talked to. And lastly, this wouldn't happen if the bars didn't allow it, or more likely, didn't encourage it.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1321173]Day 4, Tuesday: Cebu.

SNIP.

Two Korean men walked in and had the mamasan line all of the girls up in front of them so they could choose their companion. The girl next to me said "Koreans rude, no respect" which sums up my opinion of them.

SNIP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1321173]Day 4, Tuesday: Cebu. [SNIP]

Two years ago I fucked a girl from Hot Rod, who memorably turned out to be a virgin. Hot Rod is now PLANET X. There is a square stage in the centre, surrounded by comfy seating. Three girls were dancing on the stage when I walked in and about 30 were dotted around the bar. All were young. I ordered a beer (65 pesos) and immediately a girl with a 7/10 face and a 9/10 body sat next to me. Her name was Gemma and she was very flirty, rubbing her hand up and down my leg. A waitress asked whether I'd like to buy her a lady-drink. When I agreed the waitress said "Baileys. 300 pesos, is that okay sir?". I know I could have insisted on a 'single' for 150 pesos but I don't like looking a cheapskate in front of a girl I might want to fuck later. Gemma gave lots of sexy vibes so I asked about her bar-fine. It was 2000 pesos but she suggested that we could meet at my hotel when she finished work at 3. 30am. It would save me paying the bar-fine and she'd get more too, without the bar taking their cut. (please note, for the sake of this diary, I've changed her name to Gemma to protect her in case the management at Planet X ever read this). I knew I'd be asleep by then so suggested we could meet next afternoon and I'd pay her 1500 for 2 hours. We agreed to meet at 1. 30pm at Bo's Coffee Shop.[/QUOTE]You did the right thing to change her name, many locals read ISG and if she still works at the bar this would cause trouble for her. I don't know if you exchanged CP numbers with her, but if you didn't chances of her showing up would be under 50percent because you have never barfined her before. But I wait for your confirmation on that.

Past performance does not dictate future performance. Two years is a long time in the life-cycle of a bar scene and things change. Also 300p for a LD, that's on the high end IMO but to each there own and you are spending your money. From my experience a BG would respect you MORE if you told her she was only allowed the regular LD instead of the more expensive option, but YMMV.

[quote]I returned to BG's and watched a sleazy girl with tattoos gyrate sexily on stage. She had big tits and a slutty appeal with far too much make-up, but when she finished she walked to another customer. It was a shame, she'd be an interesting fuck. Standing nearby at the bar was a tall girl with pale skin who looked Japanese. I bought her a lady-drink (150 pesos) and we chatted. Her name was Angel and she was good fun, the type who'd probably provide a good service. I decided that she'd be a good choice so paid her 1700 peso bar-fine. I hoped Angel might be a devil in the bedroom as we left hand-in-hand.

It took two minutes for us to walk back to my hotel. As soon as she entered my room her personality changed. I switched the TV on so that we could find a movie on 'Star Movies' (she told me that she loves movies in the bar) but she acted surprised."You want to watch a movie?" she said,"I'm here for short-time, you need to ask in bar if you want longer". Her cold business-like attitude was a turn-off. You expect it in Amsterdam ("50 Euros, suck and fuck, two positions") but not in Asia. Last time I was in Cebu all three girls I bar-fined stayed all night without question.

It went down-hill from there. She told me that she hated her job and that she cried the first time she had a customer, an old Japanese man. One of my rules of sex tours is that I will never fuck a girl who doesn't want to be in the industry but on the other hand, I'd paid her bar-fine and if she doesn't want to fuck customers, she's in the wrong job. When I pointed this out to her she told me that she had a kid and was doing it for him.

I weighed up the situation and told her that my only option was to take her back to the bar and get a refund on the bar-fine."But I'll get in to trouble" she said sadly. She was expecting me to pay her bar-fine and get nothing in return! I stood up and told her to put her clothes back on.

She quickly changed her tune. She pulled me towards her and a few minutes later I was fucking her. She groaned loudly, a loud, fake groan, like she was trying to make me finish sooner. We did a few positionss and as I was fucking her doggy-style, she looked over her shoulder and said "finish, okay?". Again it reminded me of fucking a prostitute in Amsterdam's red light district. I told her 'you on top' and she rode me to a climax. As we were getting changed afterwards she told me that in three months she'd only slept with six customers.[/QUOTE]You should of made your expectations clear to her in the bar BEFORE paying for the barfine and with the mamasan standing there listening."Hon I want to sex you many times. I want to dress you up in heels and tback and take lots of naughty pics. I want you to stay all night and I want to use sextoys and spank your ass some. I want to pull on your hair and for you to give me BBBJ and you to swallow my cum, is that ok with you? I am looking for sweet GFE and PSE with no drama." Simple.

I doubt she had only 6 customers in three months, more like 6 customers in two weeks. When she was trying to pull a runner, you should of gone with your first instinct. Bring her back to the bar, it's only 400ft from the hotel. She clearly only wanted your cash not your johnson. Any sex that happened after you told her you were going to take her back to the bar would of been robotic filipina starfish motions.

[quote](The previous three days appeared on the Manila thread. Please note that my visit was in March this year but I haven't had chance to post it before now).[/QUOTE]Your info is 6months old and the bar scene has changed. Six months?

[QUOTE=X Man;1321326]Thank you Sir Lancelot for your play by play. I've been there, done that, but it's interesting nevertheless. Since some of the Cebu bars were recently raided, it's probably not such a good idea to be so explicit about the p4p situation, but I guess it can't be helped.[/QUOTE]Agree, recent events in Cebu have changed the bar scene.

[QUOTE=X Man;1321326]. I also see that many of the gals who get in the lineup are doing their best to get picked. So not all of the ladies are as discerning as the one you talked to. And lastly, this wouldn't happen if the bars didn't allow it, or more likely, didn't encourage it.[/QUOTE]Because they spend cash (lots) have small dicks don't last long etc. We all know the stories but I know a few bar girls who all say the same.

The Koreans smell bad (due to eating too much smelly Korean food am told) but "who care when it lasts 2 minutes sir WR and they pay big".

Our (ie westerner) problem is generally the reverse. We don't pay as high, we have much larger dicks and want to shag forever or multiple times.

While am about it and bars in Cebu. Was in Thailand recently and the bars there are not tame as we know and far more naughty than Cebu but as Thailand does need USA finance the NGOs won't go there. But what will happen when Subic is again taken over by the US military. Will the NGOs make it an exclusion zone or will those busy bodies go and work somewhere else. Interesting conundrum?

[QUOTE=X Man; 1321326]Thank you Sir Lancelot for your play by play. I've been there, done that, but it's interesting nevertheless.

As for the stereotype about Koreans, I see plenty of Koreans sitting and chatting and spending money with the gals. I like to chat with the girls and get to know them, but for someone with no English skills this might be a waste of time and money. I also see that many of the gals who get in the lineup are doing their best to get picked. So not all of the ladies are as discerning as the one you talked to. And lastly, this wouldn't happen if the bars didn't allow it, or more likely, didn't encourage it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the compliment. Regarding Koreans, I don't mean to stereotype and later in my diary I compliment a Korean guy who was a lot of fun and had all of the girls in a small bar in Angeles in hysterics with his antics. But he was an exception and I think a lot of their behavior is disrespectful to the girls. I actually don't mind them lining up the girls because this is how they seem to do things and, as you say, the bars seem to encourage it. It might be quite ruthless but it's also a good way to see the talent on offer as quickly as possible.

What irritates me is when a Korean man walks in to a gogo bar, right up to the stage, checks each of the girls and then walks out. This must have happened at least a dozen times on my trip and it's only ever elderly Korean men who do this (maybe they go to the front of the stage because their eyesight isn't very good?). I know for a fact that the girls find it very rude.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1321352]I don't know if you exchanged CP numbers with her, but if you didn't chances of her showing up would be under 50 percent because you have never barfined her before. But I wait for your confirmation on that[/QUOTE]I didn't swap cellphone numbers with Gemma so I wasn't holding my breath for her to show up. As you'll see in the diary I will post later, you and I were totally right to be sceptical, she didn't show up!

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1321352]Also 300p for a LD, that's on the high end IMO but to each there own and you are spending your money. From my experience a BG would respect you MORE if you told her she was only allowed the regular LD instead of the more expensive option, but YMMV.[/QUOTE]Great point about the lady-drink. My stance is that I will pay for a double if it's a girl I really want to bar-fine as she'll see me as generous and know that there is a good tip for her next morning if she performs well. But the respect issue is something I hadn't considered. These girls are very shrewd and definitely respect money.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1321352]You should of made your expectations clear to her in the bar BEFORE paying for the barfine…[/QUOTE]I agree that listing expectations in the bar beforehand is a guaranteed way of getting what you want but we all have different modus operandi. I think that if you treat a girl like a hooker, she will act like one. I like to make it as informal and relaxed as possible and in my experience it's much more likely to lead to the 'girlfriend experience'. Of course sometimes my instincts about a girl are proved wrong, as this incident shows. However, bear in mind that this was my first night back in Cebu after a two year absence. Two years earlier all three girls I bar-fined stayed 'long-time' without me even having to ask. A lot has changed in two years. As you'll see as my diary progresses, I've realized that now you MUST stipulate 'long-time' or otherwise you'll have a 'Dexy' on your hands (midnight runner).

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1321352]Your info is 6months old and the bar scene has changed.[/QUOTE]My apologies but I did have a very good reason. I wanted to contribute something to this forum though, given how many questions I asked!

Day 5, Wednesday: Cebu.

After a lie-in and leisurely breakfast I walked to ROBINSONS to meet Gemma, the girl I'd met in Planet X the night before. Robinsons is located on Osmena roundabout and it was 1. 25pm when I arrived. Bo's Coffee Shop is situated on the 1st floor in the central walkway, offering a good view of shoppers walking past. I ordered a coffee and sat down at a table. We had arranged to meet at 1. 30pm but I knew it would be a miracle if Gemma showed up on time ('Filipino time' stipulates that Filipino's must be at least 30 minutes late for any given appointment). I sipped my coffee and read a book until 2pm but there was no sign of her. I saw some attractive female shoppers walk past but no Gemma. I waited until 2. 45pm before I gave up and left.

Although I'd hoped to get some afternoon action, Gemma's 'no show' wasn't unexpected. It summed up what has been a frustrating start to this trip. Manila Bay Café had been disappointing and my time in Cebu had started badly too, with Angel's poor performance last night and now being stood up by Gemma. So far I'd fucked four girls but only one of them, the cute blond from Manila Bay Café, was anywhere near the quality I expected in the Philippines.

I didn't want to waste my trip to Robinsons so went for a walk around the canteen downstairs. Two years ago I thought it seemed a good place to meet girls as it is a large open-plan food hall where you can get something to eat, sit down at a table and make eye contact with girls. Robinsons employ a lot of pretty shop attendants and most of them spend their break in the canteen. However the food hall now has dividing walls around the tables which means it's impossible to survey the whole food hall for likely targets.

You can still try to swap numbers with pretty shop assistants though. Some of them will be more than happy to fuck foreigners for a little extra cash and if you had time on your hands and plenty of charm, there could be rich pickings. These girls don't like to be seen to be prostitutes in front of their colleagues though, so discretion is key. I once saw a man with silver grey hair, wearing a T-shirt that said 'I make cute babies', approaching a pretty girl in the middle of the canteen, in full view of everyone. He whispered something in to her ear but she shook her head and he made a hasty retreat. She laughed awkwardly with her friend but it was clear that she was extremely embarrassed by the incident. Respect the girls and be discreet.

I had dinner at Sideline Garden, one of the restaurants recommended in my tour guide. It's situated on a side-street off General Maxilom Avenue near National Bookstore. It's open-sided and the ceiling fans rotating lazily above did little to cool me down from the heat and humidity. I ordered crispy pork and it was delicious. I enjoyed watching premiership football from back home until the waiters changed the channel to basketball.

It was 8. 20pm before I set out for the gogo bars. My goal was to find a 8/10 or higher to provide me with some long overdue 'girlfriend sex'. It was about time this sex-tour delivered.

I started at RED LIPS as it receives good reports online. Walking away from the church I turned left 30 meters after Planet X down a small road between Yellow Cab Pizza and Vienna Café. I found Red Lips a short distance down this road. Only one girl was dancing when I walked in but a few more were getting ready. The interior theécor had an upmarket feel but the place felt sleepy and I was the only customer. Some websites suggest that 8pm is the time to arrive at gogo bars in Cebu but it's too early. The best time to arrive is 9pm. Most girls will be there by that time but there won't be many other customers, so you still get pick of the girls.

I bought a San Miguel for 50 pesos and sat down on a leather couch in front of the stage. As time marched on, more girls appeared. By 9pm there were three girls dancing sexily and ten more were sat on couches to the right of the stage, wearing just bikinis. The only other customers were a group of three middle-aged Filipino men. One of the dancers was wearing a figure-hugging all-in-one white 'Von Dutch' dress that showed off a spectacular curvy figure. I was hypnotised for a couple of minutes, watching her hips sway and gyrate. When I snapped out of my trance I decided that Red Lips definitely has potential.

On the way out I asked a waitress how much the bar-fine was. She looked unsure, then said 'we no have bar-fine'. A number of bars in Philippines have been shut down which has forced bars to revise their payment system. In Red Lips it's up to you to negotiate directly with the girl. According to online forums. 1700 pesos is the going rate for a good-looking girl in Red Lips.

I couldn't resist going back to VIKING to find Nerce. Her playful personality suggested she'd provide the 'girlfriend experience' I craved. A tall girl was slow-dancing sexily when I entered as eight girls watched on from a dark corner. I don't understand why some bars in Cebu operate like this. The girls should be show-cased with more than one girl dancing and those that aren't on stage shouldn't be hidden in a dark corner. I sat at the bar and the barmaid recognized me."I go find Nerce" she said. She returned a minute later and told me apologetically that Nerce wasn't available. It seemed that she was a popular girl, not surprising given her pretty face, enticing curves and bubbly personality.

I was joined by a girl called Lovely who lived up to her name. She had a pretty face and looked sexy in her tiny bra and tight shorts. I was surprised when she told me that she was 26 as she looked much younger. I bought her a lady-drink for 150 pesos and enjoyed chatting to her. She pointed to a bayut (ladyboy) that was standing near the entrance and told me that she / he is the make-up artist and charges girls 50 pesos to do their makeup but 100 pesos if they get bar-fined. I found this amusing. Lovely was sexy, flirtateous and fun. And the way she wrapped her legs around me and wiggled her bum on my lap, fixing me with a sexy stare, suggested that she would be a good choice. I decided to talk numbers.

The bar-fine in Viking is 1700 pesos but the waitress told me that I had to pay the bar-fine directly to Lovely as 'it's expensive to pay the police'. Lovely went to get changed. Normally I like to visit 3 or 4 bars but sometimes you have to act decisively if you find a girl you like early in the night. The night before I'd missed out on Nerce because I'd hesitated and I didn't want it to happen again.

She appeared five minutes later wearing a rock'and'roll T-shirt and a tiny pair of denim shorts. It took two minutes to walk back to my hotel and as predicted she was lots of fun. She loved her nipples being sucked and groaned loudly when I was fucking her (so loud I felt self-conscious that guests in neighbouring rooms might knock on the wall). We tried lots of positions and after fifteen minutes I asked her what position she liked best. She chose a position I'd taught her earlier. Missionary but with one of her legs flung over so she was twisted on to her side and her pussy was tight.

We finished with her on top and as she lowered herself on to me, she massaged my ego by saying 'big dick'. Some of these bar-girls aren't used to fucking European men. She grinded her hips on mine until I shot my load in a shuddering climax. 'You last long time' she gasped as she lay on top of me and we got our breaths back.

We lay next to each other naked, chatting. She told me that her nightly wage is 200 pesos but for every 150 peso lady-drink she is bought, she makes 40 pesos. On an average night she gets about ten lady-drinks which means that she can make over 400 pesos just by talking to customers. If you add her wage, that's 600 pesos per night without having to spread her legs. When you consider that if she gets bar-fined, she only makes 800 pesos, plus an optional tip, you can see why popular girls can be picky about which customers they go with. Staying in the bar can be lucrative and much less effort.

Disappointingly she asked to leave at midnight. Two years ago all of the girls I bar-fined in Cebu happily stayed all night without being asked, but the climate has changed for the worse. If you want long-time, you now have to ask for it. I hadn't specified 'long-time' in the bar so I couldn't blame Lovely for wanting to leave, to try and make herself more money. She was a great girl though, so I told her "tip in morning if you stay". We fell asleep arm-in-arm.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1321665]Day 5, Wednesday: Cebu.

"It was 8. 20pm before I set out for the gogo bars. My goal was to find a 8/10 or higher to provide me with some long overdue 'girlfriend sex'. It was about time this sex-tour delivered."

May I suggest that you try Lone Star? If you haven't spotted it, it's up the street of your hotel going away from the go-go bars: At the corner, turn left and it's up the street on your right. Owned by a couple of Aussies. When I was there in July there were a whole bunch of prime ladies. A couple of sisters escorted me back to a dark corner in the bar and encouraged me to take them both out. They were stunners, but unfortunately I had other plans already. Will suggest Cobra Bar also in my next message.

[QUOTE=MrHombre; 1321891]

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1321665]May I suggest that you try Lone Star? If you haven't spotted it, it's up the street of your hotel going away from the go-go bars: At the corner, turn left and it's up the street on your right. Owned by a couple of Aussies. When I was there in July there were a whole bunch of prime ladies. A couple of sisters escorted me back to a dark corner in the bar and encouraged me to take them both out. They were stunners, but unfortunately I had other plans already. Will suggest Cobra Bar also in my next message.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I visted Lone Star and was impressed. Good music, good atmosphere, nice layout and most importantly some nice girls. Not so sure about the stuffed animals on the walls though. It seemed very popular with ex-pats which is always a sign of good value.

[QUOTE=MrHombre; 1321891]May I suggest that you try Lone Star? If you haven't spotted it, it's up the street of your hotel going away from the go-go bars: At the corner, turn left and it's up the street on your right. Owned by a couple of Aussies. When I was there in July there were a whole bunch of prime ladies. A couple of sisters escorted me back to a dark corner in the bar and encouraged me to take them both out. They were stunners, but unfortunately I had other plans already. Will suggest Cobra Bar also in my next message.[/QUOTE]A couple of Aussies? From what I understand the sole owner of Lone Star is Graham, who also owns Mavericks. Maybe you are thinking of Chris and John who used to own Silver Dollar years ago. If there are indeed two owners I have yet to meet the other one.

My two centavos. Lone Star is an ok place. Good bar to enjoy a meal and have a cold beer and chat with a few expats. The centrally located dancefloor with barstools on three sides is great for watching the girls on stage.

I do not barfine from LS. The girls seem sweet and flirty enough in the bar but once in the room they tend to forget alot of what had been previously agreed upon in the bar. Most are runners. Again YMMV. The mamasan is not very friendly and will side with the girls on every matter. When one of the barmaids asked me why I no longer buy LD's and barfine I tried to explain the situation to her and the mamasan. She just brushed it off or made excuses for the girls actions. When the manasan does not require the girls to provide good service and keep the customers happy then it's all a big nothing. The girls do not fear losing there jobs or upsetting the mamasan because they know she has there back. No fear of losing there job = bad jerjer and runners.

I used to go into LS and spend 1500-2000p a night on drinks and food for me and the girls. I did that several times a week for almost two months. Graham for the most part never came over to say hello and chat, never bought me a beer and never chatted with the girls I barfined telling them to take good care of me. I know, I know I sound like a bit*h complaining. LOL. When the girls did not perform and started to run I said the heck with it and took my business somewhere else.

I know a few other bar owners who are 'good sh*ts' as the saying goes. They come say hello, sit and talk. I buy them a drink and they buy me a few in return. All of them instruct the girls I am with to take good care of me. All of the girls gave me perfect no drama service because of it.

When someone goes out of there way to make sure the customer is happy, the customer returns again and again. Happy customers keep the pesos flowing.

FYI, Cobra Bar is for sale, so if anyone wants to burn a couple million pesos get in touch with the expat owner.

I was in there the end of May for 2 separate days and both times there was me and another ther person in there, girls dancing for empty chairs. This owner could be hurting I thought.

I did not bar fine and the owner was pushing drinks on me when he saw I was having hot tea. Only one girl came up to me.

I do not like bar fining much because you pay in advance and most never do that with an FL.

You been in Cebu long time and you not know LS and maverick both have silent partners.

Where you been, they both in the bar in evenings most nights.

Day 6, Thursday: Cebu.

Sometimes I like to dilute my girlie adventures with a bit of tourism, so I woke early and got a taxi to the port, where I took a Supercat ferry to Bohol. Bohol is home to the 'Chocolate Hills', one of Philippines most famous sights, as well as tiny tarsier monkeys that have huge eyes that make them look like they're in a permanent state of shock. It was an enjoyable day. My tour finished at 4pm so I killed time in Tagbilaran walking around a large mall, where there was no shortage of attractive female employees. The ferry back took two hours.

I got back to my hotel at half eight, so had a quick shower and put some smart clothes on. I will never, repeat never, go to a gogo bar wearing shorts and a T-shirt on! I walked up to the junction on General Maxilom Avenue where the gogo bars are located and wondered which to start at. One of my rules of sex tours is that I never bar-fine two girls from the same bar. 'Loss of face' issues aren't as prevalent as Thailand but it can cause embarrassment to the first girl if you take another girl from the same bar. This meant that my chances with Nerce had vanished. I also like to try and sleep with as many girls as possible each trip, so I decided to skip Viking.

The time was 8. 50pm when I walked in to ERIK THE RED. It was quiet with only one dancer and just a sprinkling of girls sat on the sidelines. I noticed a very attractive girl with a 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' look, chatting with a guy at the bar. Sat on a couch in the far corner was a sexy looking girl, every inch Hollywood's clichéthe portrayal of an Asian hooker. Although I prefer the cute, innocent types, I love to mix things up every now and then with something from the other end of the scale. However, when she walked past a few minutes later she was a bit older than I first thought and not as pretty, maybe a 6/10.

I like Erik The Red. It has a good layout, good music and the glitterball adds to the romance. There are nice girls too. I went to the male toilet and there were five girls in there, carefully applying makeup in front the mirror. A few were young and pretty. I would suggest 9. 30 is the time to arrive at Erik The Red as that's when it starts to liven up.

Next I went to LONE STAR. I'd never been before but it was easy to find. I walked down F Manalo Street, the road opposite the Viking Bars that runs alongside the church, past Beverley Boutique and at the T-junction I turned left. Lone Star is a short distance down this road on the right. It doesn't look lively from the outside but I was pleasantly surprised when I walked in. It was busy with customers and there was a nice buzz. Two girls were dancing on stage and probably 15 were circulating around the bar. Most customers were expats, always a sign of good value. My San Miguel cost 80 pesos and I sat at the long table that runs along three sides of the stage, giving me a good close-up view of the dancers. The two on stage weren't to my taste but I saw others who were.

The place had other plus points. The music was excellent and as 'Supersonic' by Oasis played, I was approached by two girls. They were good fun so I offered to buy a lady-drink (190 pesos) for the one who could guess closest to my age. The winner was a cutie called Leanna who was 21. I might have considered bar-fining her but lookswise she was too similar to Lovely from the night before.

Ten minutes later a girl with plenty of curves was on stage. She danced sexily right in front of me and then leaned down to speak."I like your face" she said,"you're like ice-cream, I want to lick you". She was a 6/10 but had a great body and seemed the type guaranteed to provide a wild time. Maybe one for later.

I walked back to the Mango Bars. The side of the street with Viking, BG's, Erik The Red and Planet X is where good looking girls can be bar-fined for reasonable prices. The opposite side of the street is where girls of a similar standard can be bar-fined for much higher prices, mainly by big-spenders who are happy to be seen splashing their cash.

Two years ago I visited Papillon, Dimples and Love City but I wasn't impressed. There were nice girls of course but no nicer than those in the cheaper bars opposite. The bars might look impressive but don't be lulled in by the flashing lights.

The exception on this side of the road is PUSSYCAT. It's set back from the other bars and you are watched by a big pair of cats eyes as you approach. It was 11pm when I entered. Three girls were dancing on the stage in the middle of the room so I sat on a stool behind them, giving me a great view of their jiggling arses. 15 girls were huddled on to a couch near the door. The place didn't have the 'anything goes' atmosphere of two years ago. Back then a horny girl got me hard by grinding against me and slipping my hand in to her bikini top and I saw other girls sat astride customers. It seemed tamer by comparison.

There were of course some nice girls though. I bought a lady-drink (190 pesos) for a 7/10. She was a sweetie but since I was in Pussycats, I wanted a tiger. A sexy dancer caught my eye but her stare was transfixed on a big spender sat opposite. The bar-fine in Pussycat is 2000 pesos.

I left and considered my options. Although it was getting late and I hadn't found a standout girl yet, I was having an enjoyable evening. It's always fun visiting different bars and having drinks with sexy young girls.

I went to RED LIPS as it had impressed me the night before. It had been quiet at 9pm but by 11. 30pm it was busy with customers and there were lots of girls. They were all young and I spotted a few 8/10 or higher. I went to the bar to buy a drink but had to wait as the bar-maid stacked glasses. A man shouted 'hello' to her from over my shoulder. She recognised him and they exchanged chit-chat before she asked "would you like a drink?". Despite the fact that I had been waiting patiently and it was obvious that I should be served first, she served a man stood behind me! I don't like poor customer service so I walked out.

BG'S BIKINI BAR is a good bet to find gorgeous girls. As I entered I brushed past a 9/10, her tiny bikini showing off a large pair of fake tits. She gave me a smile as I walked past. In my opinion, BG's has the prettiest selection of girls in Cebu. I bought a beer and sat on a stool at the bar. One girl was dancing and 15 sat shoulder-to-shoulder on a long couch in front of the stage. One of those girls was Angel, the girl I bar-fined on my first night in Cebu. She smiled sheepishly towards me. Despite her poor performance two nights earlier, I sent a tequila over to her. I felt sorry for her, doing a job she disliked to support her child. She seemed surprised when the waitress handed her the drink and pointed towards me to indicate who had bought it. She mouthed 'thank you' and raised her glass in my direction.

I got chatting with a gorgeous 23 year old girl with fantastic tits. She was an 8. 5/10 and, coincidentally, the older sister of the 9/10 who smiled to me when I entered. I bought her a tequila but she downed it almost instantly and without another word, stood up and went to sit with another customer! I wasn't impressed. When I buy a girl a drink it's my way of expressing an interest, I don't expect them to walk away.

I noticed Angel weaving her magic on a big black guy at the bar. Despite her cold attitude in the bedroom, she was the life of the party, laughing loudly and wrapping her legs around him suggestively. I had to smile. Some of these girls are born actresses. Nearby I saw a cute, pale-skinned girl with light brown hair. She was tall and flat-chested, with Japanese features. A definite 9/10. Sadly she was with another customer, a huge hulk of a blond man, possibly Dutch. It was becoming a frustrating night.

At midnight I went to PLANET X. I bought a beer and found a seat in front of the stage. Just as I was admiring the sexy moves of an oriental blond with pigtails, two average lookers joined me."Would you like to buy the girls a drink?" a waitress said, pointing to the girls. I hate this kind of pressure. I like to buy a drink for my own choice of girl, which of course increases the chances of me paying the bar-fine. Soon I was surrounded by four girls, none of whom I was interested in."Drinks for the girls?" the waitress asked again. I opted to buy one for the sweet young girl sat to my left. She wasn't the prettiest but was the one I felt would benefit most from the confidence boost of a lady-drink from a 'gwapo' man like myself (so the ladies say and they would never lie about such a thing).

A familiar face walked over. It was Gemma, the girl who had stood me up in Robinsons."Where were you?" I asked but without even apologising or offering an explanation, she said "We meet later, okay?". I had to admire her nerve!

After a long day, suddenly I felt tired so decided to head back to the hotel. It had been a frustrating night. I hadn't been impressed by the waitress at Red Lips or the big-boobed hottie in BG's and it seemed that all of the girls I really liked were already with customers. Sometimes that's the way it goes on bar-crawls. You're not in the right place at the right time.

As I walked to my hotel, a girl started walking alongside me."You wan go with me?" she said,"500 pesos". I was tempted because she had large tits but she had a masculine face and a strong jawline. I think 'she' was probably a 'he'.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1322213]A couple of Aussies? From what I understand the sole owner of Lone Star is Graham, who also owns Mavericks. Maybe you are thinking of Chris and John who used to own Silver Dollar years ago. If there are indeed two owners I have yet to meet the other one.

My two centavos. Lone Star is an ok place. Good bar to enjoy a meal and have a cold beer and chat with a few expats. The centrally located dancefloor with barstools on three sides is great for watching the girls on stage.

I do not barfine from LS. The girls seem sweet and flirty enough in the bar but once in the room they tend to forget alot of what had been previously agreed upon in the bar. Most are runners. Again YMMV. The mamasan is not very friendly and will side with the girls on every matter. When one of the barmaids asked me why I no longer buy LD's and barfine I tried to explain the situation to her and the mamasan. She just brushed it off or made excuses for the girls actions. When the manasan does not require the girls to provide good service and keep the customers happy then it's all a big nothing. The girls do not fear losing there jobs or upsetting the mamasan because they know she has there back. No fear of losing there job = bad jerjer and runners.

I used to go into LS and spend 1500-2000p a night on drinks and food for me and the girls. I did that several times a week for almost two months. Graham for the most part never came over to say hello and chat, never bought me a beer and never chatted with the girls I barfined telling them to take good care of me. I know, I know I sound like a bit*h complaining. LOL. When the girls did not perform and started to run I said the heck with it and took my business somewhere else.

I know a few other bar owners who are 'good sh*ts' as the saying goes. They come say hello, sit and talk. I buy them a drink and they buy me a few in return. All of them instruct the girls I am with to take good care of me. All of the girls gave me perfect no drama service because of it.

When someone goes out of there way to make sure the customer is happy, the customer returns again and again. Happy customers keep the pesos flowing.

FYI, Cobra Bar is for sale, so if anyone wants to burn a couple million pesos get in touch with the expat owner.[/QUOTE]Stroker, my experiences differ greatly from yours in this respect. Graham is the only owner as far as I'm aware, and he has always bought me a beer every night or so when I've been in there. I am also a regular in Maverick as well, though and I do spend a fair bit on SM Light whilst there. I just prefer the feel in those places as opposed to some of the others which are generally full of arrogant Koreans.

Personally, I have always got on very well with the Mamasan in Lonestar, she's certainly quite a character. I don't know when you visited last but there were previously two that I knew, and I think the other one left. Admittedly, I didn't really know her that well. I also like the other staff and feel they are more personable than some of the Mango bars but there are one or two exceptions. I haven't visited El Gecko since it changed hands again recently from Wayne but that was always a good starting place too.

I certainly agree that women can change drastically from being in the bar to when they get to your hotel room. I've only really ever had a problem once like this before with a girl from one of Graham's bars (admittedly that is in part because I feel there are better lookers on bars at Mango, such as Viking or Planet-X, even if the rumours are that they do not undergo particularly stringent checks in some) and when I told him he gave me the next one for free without an issue.

Like everything, especially in Cebu it seems, YMMV.

Day 7, Friday: Cebu.

I don't travel to the other side of the world to drink beer, I come to sleep with lots of girls. But after three nights in Cebu I'd only fucked two, both for 'short-time' and one of those had a poor attitude. Cebu had impressed me two years ago but on this trip I'd been underwhelmed so far. This was my final day in Cebu. I needed to end my time here in style.

I considered looking for some daytime action. Cebu has plenty more to offer than gogo bars. I visited the downtown brothel area of JONQUERA two years ago, which was an adventure. You walk in to what is little more than a slum and hookers appear from the ramshackle houses. In terms of sleaziness it beats anything I've done (even sleazier than the 'gang 3' brothels in Yogyakarta, Indonesia, or the soi 6 'short-time' bars in Pattaya, Thailand). Another option is to find streetwalkers. Apparently lots hang about on the corner of Colon Street and Palaez, near Century Hotel. I love the sleaziness of picking up girls from the street. It's exciting bargain-basement banging but in the relentless heat, scouting for girls on the street seemed a lot of effort.

A massage parlour would be a good alternative but that is an area where Philippines lags a long way behind Thailand. FINLAND is meant to be Cebu's best but the price is 3000 pesos, for just one hour with a girl probably less attractive than those that can be bar-fined from the gogo bars for almost half price. In terms of value for money, massage parlours aren't worth it unless you know you're getting top notch quality, for example Nataree in Bangkok (I've never seen so many pretty girls in one place at a time).

I considered going online and logging on to DATE IN ASIA. Before the trip I'the made a few contacts but it's a hit and miss way to meet girls. It's time consuming, the girls can be unreliable and often they turn up for dates with friends or family in tow! If you lived in Philippines I think it would be a goldmine of available pussy but with just one afternoon at my disposal, it wasn't likely to yield a positive result. Another option is JULIANA'S disco. It's in the Mango area and supposedly there are a lot of freelancers, especially after 2am when girls from the gogo bars supposedly turn up. Nightclubs are an exciting way to meet girls but the disadvantage is that you have to wait until the early hours of the morning to see any action. I'm usually asleep by then after fucking a gogo girl.

There are plenty of ways to meet pay-for-play girls in Cebu but I decided to have a relaxing day, to recharge my batteries for another gogo bar crawl.

I had dinner at Beverley's Boutique and again the food was excellent. It was 9. 15pm by the time I was ready to visit my first bar. Although I had enjoyed visiting the gogo bars in Cebu, I had been disappointed with the end results. Tonight though, things were about to change.

I started at ERIK THE RED. The night before I'd seen some very pretty girls before I left and was keen to see them again. I bought a beer (60 pesos) and sat on a stool at the bar. A tall, slim girl was slow-dancing to a power-ballad and 15 girls were crowded on some couches to the left of the stage. At such a distance it was difficult to assess the talent or make eye contact but I noticed a couch was free near to where they were sat. It proved to be the ideal vantage point. I could watch the dancer on stage while checking out the girls and since I was closer, they now returned my smiles and playfully flirted with me. One girl pointed to her friend and they both collapsed in a fit of giggles. I saw the pretty 'Crouching Tiger' girl from the previous night and a few other hotties.

After five minutes, two waitresses dragged a tiny girl over and pushed her towards me. Much to the amusement of the other girls, she fell on to my lap with a scream. When the girl had stopped blushing, she introduced herself. Her name was Rosalyn, she was 21 years old and she was extremely pretty. She had a lovely face and the cute, innocent girl-next-door look I like. She had long, straight hair with a fringe, unusual for Filipino girls. My luck was changing. I introduced myself and offered to buy her a lady-drink. When her beer arrived we clinked bottles.

She was good company and held my hand as we chatted and hugging up to me when we laughed. I knew I'd found my girl, the very first girl from the very first bar! I usually don't like to bar-fine so early but I couldn't let this girl slip through my fingers. She was pretty, had a playful personality and she liked me too. I teased her and asked why she had screamed when she was pushed towards me and she told me that she was 'shy'. Apparntly the waitresses had dragged her over to me because she had innocently told them that she thought I was 'gwapo' (handsome).

It was her turn to dance. Since she was shy I expected her to be one of those girls who shuffle self-consciously for a few songs but I was mistaken. Rosalyn was a very sexy mover and then suddenly, unexpectedly, she did the splits, her leather boots making a loud bang on the stage. Every person in the bar including customers, waitresses and the others girls, watched closely. She was the best dancer in the bar. She contorted her body in to all kinds of amazing positions and my mind raced. At one point a waitress walked past and waved her hand in front of my face to wake me from my trance!

She returned to my couch and we cuddled up to each other. I told her how amazing she was and bought her another drink. I noticed other customers looking over to her, so I hugged her tighter. A girl walked past wearing regular clothes and Rosalyn sprang up and said "hairdresser! Wait here!". Before I had chance to answer, she ran off excitedly. Ten minutes later she came back with her hair curled. I'd really liked her hair straight but she looked cute with curls too.

There is always a moment when you tell a girl that you'd like to bar-fine her, when you worry she'll tell you that she's a cherry girl or on her 'mens', but she smiled and said 'okay'. She went to get changed and I paid her barfine (1800 pesos) and bought a tequila for the waitress who pushed Rosalyn on to my lap, to thank her. The waitress was a mute ladyboy and obviously didn't get bought many lady-drinks because she gave me a hug and looked like she might start crying. Who would have thought that it would take a mute ladyboy to get this trip up-and-running?

Rosalyn appeared five minutes later wearing a pretty black and white dress and we walked back to my hotel. A negative of the Mango gogo bars is that beggars congregate outside and it's annoying being pestered when you're with a girl. Back in the room we showered and then cuddled up to each other on my bed. She had a lovely warm body and small but firm tits. A film was on TV but we chatted, kissed and cuddled. After an hour we fell asleep, legs intertwined.

Day 8, Saturday: Cebu / Angeles.

It's a great feeling spending the night cuddled up to a gorgeous young girl. I was concerned that she might attempt to leave first thing in the morning, without any sex, but I needn't have worried.

She woke and we were soon kissing. She was a good kisser and before long our hands were stroking each other. She had small tits but her nipples were erect. Her pussy was wet so I inserted a finger and slowly fingered her as we continued to kiss. After a while I was erect, so I rolled a condom on, climbed on top and slid inside. Her pussy was tight and we had the kind of 'girlfriend sex' I'd been craving, with lots of kissing and eye contact. We fucked in a variety of positions including her on top, slowly grinding her hips on mine. After a while she put both feet on the bed and rode me in 'Asian cowgirl', bouncing up and down on my dick as she closed her eyes tightly. I usually like to climax with the girl on top but I flipped her over in one movement and fucked her hard in missionary, her ankles on my shoulders. She groaned as I pounded her pussy hard until I came. It was a fantastic session with a truly gorgeous girl, one of the top 10 girls I've met in Asia.

We cuddled for half an hour before she showered and got changed. I took some photos and slipped her a generous tip before she left. What a girl. If I was staying in Cebu for longer I would have got her mobile number and arranged to meet again.

My flight to Clark was late afternoon. During the one hour flight I saw one of the prettiest stewardess I have ever seen. She had an amazing face with sexy slanty eyes so I&8200; tried to photograph her when the cabin crew did their usual mid-flight games. The photo was blurred and didn't capture her beauty but if I could bar-fine any girls as pretty in Angeles, I'the be happy. I was excited to be returning to the 'Gogo Capital of the World'. There are many bars and thousands of girls. I met some stunners there two years ago and along with Pattaya in Thailand, it is Asia's 'supermarket of sex'.

(Diary continued on Angeles thread)

Been a while 10 months since I been there, over the 5 years I lived here I never met the aussie owner I use to go there often as most the girls where 6/10 but did anal. I would not rush back as it seems to be the bar for the girls who have worked long time in the game, hence the you set the price with the girl. I never paid more than 1000 plus the bar fee and every girl I told her anal or stay there.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1322733]Day 7, Friday: Cebu.

"She woke and we were soon kissing. She was a good kisser and before long our hands were stroking each other. She had small tits but her nipples were erect. Her pussy was wet so I inserted a finger and slowly fingered her as we continued to kiss. After a while I was erect, so I rolled a condom on, climbed on top and slid inside. Her pussy was tight and we had the kind of 'girlfriend sex' I'd been craving, with lots of kissing and eye contact. We fucked in a variety of positions including her on top, slowly grinding her hips on mine. After a while she put both feet on the bed and rode me in 'Asian cowgirl', bouncing up and down on my dick as she closed her eyes tightly. I usually like to climax with the girl on top but I flipped her over in one movement and fucked her hard in missionary, her ankles on my shoulders. She groaned as I pounded her pussy hard until I came. It was a fantastic session with a truly gorgeous girl, one of the top 10 girls I've met in Asia.

We cuddled for half an hour before she showered and got changed. I took some photos and slipped her a generous tip before she left. What a girl. If I was staying in Cebu for longer I would have got her mobile number and arranged to meet again."

Sorry, MrNewbie here doesn't know how to do a proper quote.

This girl you were with is the kind that makes it all worth while, huh? I was fortunate to have a such a GFE from my only selection from MBC in Manila in July. Our second meeting, she stayed overnight. I woke in the middle of the night in pitch dark with the urge, reached for her, found her willing and able. The lovemaking we did was better than anything I ever experienced in 16 years of marriage, or a whole lot of years after that, LOL. She was holding me tight, passionately kissing, fully and totally into it. It was wonderful.

Now, on to your next posts from Manila!

SL: Great field report. More!

Wonderful job with yer postings, for sure. Look forward to more.

Mr J, Westcoast, JP.

Thanks for your compliments. I will be posting the remaining 15 days on the Angeles thread (with a brief interlude in 'Other Towns'. Coron). You can also read the first four days on the Manila thread.

Hi All, fabulous reading all over these threads. Thanks. I have a 3. 4 day window of opportunity to indulge a bit of mongering, and my mind has recently fixed on the Phillipines, to where I have never been! (Yeah, I know!) I don't feel like constantly moving, so wonder should I just stay in Manila / Angeles, or give Cebu a try. I ask this because I have met some stunning. It seems. Mid-20 somethings on DIA from Cebu, and while nothing is promised, they are, as mentioned, stunning. So, question is, hang in Angeles and deliriously bang my balls off (as seems to be the case) or give the honeys of Cebu a shot? Other than what DIA tosses up, is Cebu worth a stay for that brief period?

Thanks in advance for all responses.

[QUOTE=WazWallaby; 1327986]Hi All, fabulous reading all over these threads. Thanks. I have a 3. 4 day window of opportunity to indulge a bit of mongering, and my mind has recently fixed on the Phillipines, to where I have never been! (Yeah, I know!) I don't feel like constantly moving, so wonder should I just stay in Manila / Angeles, or give Cebu a try. I ask this because I have met some stunning. It seems. Mid-20 somethings on DIA from Cebu, and while nothing is promised, they are, as mentioned, stunning. So, question is, hang in Angeles and deliriously bang my balls off (as seems to be the case) or give the honeys of Cebu a shot? Other than what DIA tosses up, is Cebu worth a stay for that brief period?

Thanks in advance for all responses.[/QUOTE]I would go to angles as AC beats the rest hands down. For a short stay, you will never run out of options.

[QUOTE=WazWallaby;1327986]Hi All, fabulous reading all over these threads. Thanks. I have a 3. 4 day window of opportunity to indulge a bit of mongering, and my mind has recently fixed on the Phillipines, to where I have never been! (Yeah, I know!) I don't feel like constantly moving, so wonder should I just stay in Manila / Angeles, or give Cebu a try. I ask this because I have met some stunning. It seems. Mid-20 somethings on DIA from Cebu, and while nothing is promised, they are, as mentioned, stunning. So, question is, hang in Angeles and deliriously bang my balls off (as seems to be the case) or give the honeys of Cebu a shot? Other than what DIA tosses up, is Cebu worth a stay for that brief period?[/QUOTE]If you only have a few days and have never been to Philippines, I would stick with Angeles. DIA girls are not a sure thing, bar girls are. Three days goes by quickly when your having fun!

Can you fly direct to AC? If so, do it. If you plan to fly into MNL and also want to visit AC you need to review the times and travel options available to you. It might make more sense just to stay in Manila.

I personally don't have the option of a direct flight to AC, so I would go to Cebu. It's a less stressful, less congested city (than Manila) and you can much better mix the DIA with the bars. X.

[QUOTE=WazWallaby; 1327986]Hi All, fabulous reading all over these threads. Thanks. I have a 3. 4 day window of opportunity to indulge a bit of mongering, and my mind has recently fixed on the Phillipines, to where I have never been! (Yeah, I know!) I don't feel like constantly moving, so wonder should I just stay in Manila / Angeles, or give Cebu a try. I ask this because I have met some stunning. It seems. Mid-20 somethings on DIA from Cebu, and while nothing is promised, they are, as mentioned, stunning. So, question is, hang in Angeles and deliriously bang my balls off (as seems to be the case) or give the honeys of Cebu a shot? Other than what DIA tosses up, is Cebu worth a stay for that brief period?

Thanks in advance for all responses.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WazWallaby; 1327986]Hi All, fabulous reading all over these threads. Thanks. I have a 3. 4 day window of opportunity to indulge a bit of mongering, and my mind has recently fixed on the Phillipines, to where I have never been! (Yeah, I know!) I don't feel like constantly moving, so wonder should I just stay in Manila / Angeles, or give Cebu a try. I ask this because I have met some stunning. It seems. Mid-20 somethings on DIA from Cebu, and while nothing is promised, they are, as mentioned, stunning. So, question is, hang in Angeles and deliriously bang my balls off (as seems to be the case) or give the honeys of Cebu a shot? Other than what DIA tosses up, is Cebu worth a stay for that brief period?

Thanks in advance for all responses.[/QUOTE]You're best bet is to go to Angeles. The reason is when you have a short time like a few days, Angeles is lots of fun. I promise you will have a great time. Cebu is great but the club scene is much better in Angeles City. Enjoy your stay. I am sure you will be back, the Philippines is addicting.

Thanks to all who responded, I really appreciate all that. I can fly direct to both Angeles and Cebu, as I will be coming from Sing after a conference. (Kerist! Imagine that, from a conference in Sing to whatever awaits in Phil hahaha ya got to laugh) I am getting such good feedback from DIA Cebu gals. Fully aware of the potential snafus of course. That I might tend that way. Whichever way the dice. The undies. Finally fall, I will be sure to report back, and add my little bit to this wonderful site.

Thanks again those of you who gave me some of your good oil!

[QUOTE=WazWallaby; 1328841]Thanks to all who responded, I really appreciate all that. I can fly direct to both Angeles and Cebu, as I will be coming from Sing after a conference. (Kerist! Imagine that, from a conference in Sing to whatever awaits in Phil hahaha ya got to laugh) I am getting such good feedback from DIA Cebu gals. Fully aware of the potential snafus of course. That I might tend that way. Whichever way the dice. The undies. Finally fall, I will be sure to report back, and add my little bit to this wonderful site.

Thanks again those of you who gave me some of your good oil![/QUOTE]Waz.

Read the FRs in the other thread. And take that advice seriously as when senior members advise AC best listen as the chances of a total mess up in Cebu with DIA girls is high IMHO. DIA girls regardless of city are very variable in quality and reliability. AC girls will give you what you want no hassles no messing around, no jeepney / taxi for 1-3 hours to meet you in Ayala etc, and then they arrive 1-3 hours late and say they must be home by 10pm.

Read the forum about DIA and you will see these comments have validity and substance

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1329286]Waz.

Read the FRs in the other thread. And take that advice seriously as when senior members advise AC best listen as the chances of a total mess up in Cebu with DIA girls is high IMHO. DIA girls regardless of city are very variable in quality and reliability. AC girls will give you what you want no hassles no messing around, no jeepney / taxi for 1-3 hours to meet you in Ayala etc, and then they arrive 1-3 hours late and say they must be home by 10pm.

Read the forum about DIA and you will see these comments have validity and substance[/QUOTE]Roger, I am getting the message loud and clear now! You, mate, are doing a sterling job on this site and I thank you for your advice. I'll advise on my AC adventures as a total AC newbie soon!

Can you fly Singapore to Clark daily? I'm guess you've already done your homework on this. What is the flight time? Have fun! X.

[QUOTE=WazWallaby;1329492]Roger, I am getting the message loud and clear now! You, mate, are doing a sterling job on this site and I thank you for your advice. I'll advise on my AC adventures as a total AC newbie soon![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man;1329608]Can you fly Singapore to Clark daily? I'm guess you've already done your homework on this. What is the flight time? Have fun! X.[/QUOTE]Certainly Tiger and Cebu Pacific fly direct at around 11am and 4pm but can't vouch for Air Asia or AirPhil Express.

[url]http://www.skyscanner.net/flights/sin/crk/121005/121012/airfares-from-singapore-changi-to-clark-international-in-october-2012.html[/url]

Always helpful for people like me but the site does not cover all airline so more homework should be done gentlemen

When researching flighst and unsure of which airlines service a place I go to the airport's wiki entry. For Mactan (Cebu) it cna be found here:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mactan-Cebu_International_Airport[/url]

The table "Terminals, airlines and destinations" gives you all the info.

Silkair is also an option and is excellent but not cheap.

BD

Especially for non-English countries, assuming the info is updated if there are changes, Wikipedia is a great help in finding out in advance what terminals specific airlines or flights depart from. The same airlines may depart from many different terminals depending where the flights are heading, I. E. domestic or international etc.

Nonexistent or unclear/wrong signs and directions are big problem especially at China's huge regional airports where English is not used. You will be walking forever between terminals since ground shuttles are not available. It would be difficult to ask for help without command of local languages.

To make doubly sure, call the airlines and confirm again what terminals / gates your flights depart from. You don't want to walk to the wrong terminals then spend another half or full hour trying to race to the right places.

Believe me confirming all info in advance may save you missing flights and headaches at local airports where there are no signs and directions are unreliable.

Hate to miss the flights and have the girls wait while you have to buy new tickets and wait for the next flight.

Thanks for posting this tip.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain; 1329841]When researching flighst and unsure of which airlines service a place I go to the airport's wiki entry. For Mactan (Cebu) it cna be found here:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mactan-Cebu_International_Airport[/url]

The table "Terminals, airlines and destinations" gives you all the info.

Silkair is also an option and is excellent but not cheap.

BD[/QUOTE]

Luke and BrDr seem to be on to something. Thanks for the tip.

This is a very good site

[url]http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByRoute.do[/url]

It tracks arrival, departure, terminals etc.

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I'm visiting Cebu in October and was looking for info on getting rid of my double chin. Has anyone hear had any type of procedure done in cebu? I have heard from chatting with girls that belo is the best but none of them know the cost. Hope I can get some useful info here thanks.

Hi guys can you please update me on weather I. E. Rainfall in month of December on long range forecasts on web are not very clear thanks

[QUOTE=Pagal Chacha;1330538]Hi guys can you please update me on weather I. E. Rainfall in month of December on long range forecasts on web are not very clear thanks[/QUOTE]This is the Philippines always hot and raininig

[QUOTE=BGolf74;1330468]I'm visiting Cebu in October and was looking for info on getting rid of my double chin. Has anyone hear had any type of procedure done in cebu? I have heard from chatting with girls that belo is the best but none of them know the cost. Hope I can get some useful info here thanks.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.chonghua.com.ph/[/url] Is the only place I would recommend as for prices contact them, I think once you visit here you would not worry about cosmetic surgery as the girls will help your ego to feel 20 again and the Ed medication will make you fick like a 20 year old

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1330628][url]Http://www.chonghua.com.ph/[/url]

Is the only place I would recommend as for prices contact them, I think once you visit here you would not worry about cosmetic surgery as the girls will help your ego to feel 20 again and the Ed medication will make you fick like a 20 year old[/QUOTE]BG.

We are all Brad Pitt when we get here. So why bother unless you are chasing cuties back at home and feel it would help?

Also try Thailand as some very good places there. Chong Hua is the best place IMHO.

Belo will be expensive due to the name regardless of the procedure

[QUOTE=BGolf74;1330468]I'm visiting Cebu in October and was looking for info on getting rid of my double chin. Has anyone hear had any type of procedure done in cebu? I have heard from chatting with girls that belo is the best but none of them know the cost. Hope I can get some useful info here thanks.[/QUOTE]Belo is the best but I would suggest you look into their Manila offices. You pay premium only if Dr Belo does the surgery (I think its about 30% extra). You can send them an email with what you want done and they will respond back. For some procedures you may need to get the OK from a GP (can be done in phils or your own county but you need it in writing) and also you may need to get some blood tests done in advance so its best you get in touch with them.

[QUOTE=Pagal Chacha;1330538]Hi guys can you please update me on weather I. E. Rainfall in month of December on long range forecasts on web are not very clear thanks[/QUOTE]Isn't it typhoon (otherwise known as hurricanes) season?

December tends to be rainy, but a typhoon is quite rare in December.

[QUOTE=Pagal Chacha;1330538]Hi guys can you please update me on weather I. E. Rainfall in month of December on long range forecasts on web are not very clear thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man;1333492]December tends to be rainy, but a typhoon is quite rare in December.[/QUOTE]X Man is correct although I don't recall anything but intermittent rain in my experience.

Typhoons after mid-October are extremely rare. For Cebu there are very few instances of there ever being much impact from any typhoons.

Weather is much cooler and settled in December / January. It's a good time to visit.

Monsoon rains have virtually finished by then.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1333494]X Man is correct although I don't recall anything but intermittent rain in my experience.

Typhoons after mid-October are extremely rare. For Cebu there are very few instances of there ever being much impact from any typhoons.

Weather is much cooler and settled in December / January. It's a good time to visit.

Monsoon rains have virtually finished by then.[/QUOTE]That was very constructive reply

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1333494]X Man is correct although I don't recall anything but intermittent rain in my experience.

Typhoons after mid-October are extremely rare. For Cebu there are very few instances of there ever being much impact from any typhoons.

Weather is much cooler and settled in December / January. It's a good time to visit.

Monsoon rains have virtually finished by then.[/QUOTE]The odd earthquale tremor of course. Or was that you with some cutie.

Last Decemeber and a lot of January (this year) it rained every day (sometimes very heavy). I know was there, but it is cooler and if you don't like really hot and sticky weather (as opposed to girls) then is a better time to visit

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1333580]Last Decemeber and a lot of January (this year) it rained every day (sometimes very heavy).[/QUOTE]I think that is part of the weather cycle aberrations WR.

I was there for 9 days in 2008 during Sinulog and it was very hot for the whole time with no rain.

We agree though that, in general, the whole Philippines is a bit cooler (meaning 20 to 25 degrees rather than 30 to 30 plus) during December / January.

Rainfall seems to be difficult to predict because the world systems are not behaving normally (which is why the weather predictions fluctuate so much).

Just carry a payong in case of rain.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1333680]I think that is part of the weather cycle aberrations WR.

Rainfall seems to be difficult to predict because the world systems are not behaving normally (which is why the weather predictions fluctuate so much).

Just carry a payong in case of rain.[/QUOTE]Or maybe as I was there and I rarely see rain where I live. Or maybe it wanted to keep me indoors with the peach more.

But I find the weather lovely all year around whether it is wet or not and rain = chance to stay in the hotel and do our favourite hobby so we can't really complain.

Cooler RK? Defintely but for me that is the winter temperature I am used to LOL.

See you soon

There is going to be another ISG Free Lunch this Fri. Oct. 12. Lots of delicious FREE food with no strings attached. No time share sales pitch. No sales pitch or hidden agenda at all. Just conversation and food. PM me if you want to come.

[QUOTE=David_33;1335225]There is going to be another ISG Free Lunch this Fri. Oct. 12. Lots of delicious FREE food with no strings attached. No time share sales pitch. No sales pitch or hidden agenda at all. Just conversation and food. PM me if you want to come.[/QUOTE]LOL. Dammit man. Why do you always do it when I am not there? Guess I will have to catch you in Lima.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1335237]LOL. Dammit man. Why do you always do it when I am not there? Guess I will have to catch you in Lima.[/QUOTE]Sorry, no free lunches in Lima, just Cebu.

In some ways I can understand filipinas. I can understand motives, needs, wants and fears, but when it comes to the supernatural I give up.

Today I read this in the paper, 'Evil spirit possesses 17 students'.

With catch-phrases like dark figure, Catholic organization that specializes in exorcising evil spirits, infestation, one of the students reportedly levitated during the exorcism rites are all accepted as fact, I came to the realization I will never fully understand the Philippines.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/10/09/evil-spirit-possesses-17-students-247112[/url]

[QUOTE=Cheapy; 1063405]I took my GF to both Viking and Red Lips two nights ago and no drama. We played pool at Vikings. Red Lips is my pick for upmarket but reasonalbly priced drinks and good floorshow.

Cheapy[/QUOTE]The price now in all of the bars in cebu is 3k for barfine. I would suggest you to get a girl in red lips bar its where they have the good looking and sexy girls. But they are more into japanese and koreans. Sisters is not a very nice bar but its where we meet the two crazy, wild, and fun bi girls. And I suggest you look for a girl named Maria.

Enjoy.

Planning another trip to Cebu as I miss the place so much, but just found out that November 1st& 2nd are public holidays? Does anyone know if the bars will be closed during these two days as they are non working holidays?

Thanks

[QUOTE=CrazyKido; 1337137]Planning another trip to Cebu as I miss the place so much, but just found out that November 1st& 2nd are public holidays? Does anyone know if the bars will be closed during these two days as they are non working holidays?

Thanks[/QUOTE]All saints, all souls day. Some bars will be open with reduced staff, some closed. Depends on the bar location and owner. Some bars on Mango will be open but turn off the neon to show respect for the holiday and save on veco. Walk around and try the door of your favorite bar, you might be surprised.

Enjoy Cebu.

[QUOTE=CrazyKido;1337137]Planning another trip to Cebu as I miss the place so much, but just found out that November 1st& 2nd are public holidays? Does anyone know if the bars will be closed during these two days as they are non working holidays?[/QUOTE]This holiday is actually more important to many filipinos than Holy Week and Christmas, because it is the time when they remember their dead relatives (and it all appears to be very sincere too).

The 2 days "official" holiday actually morphs into 3 or 4 days as people need travel time before and after to get home and back.

It is the only day in the whole year when malls actually close.

Some bars will open but operating with a skeleton crew only. This applies to all Philippines, and not only Cebu.

So I'm 99% sure I will be coming to Cebu for dental work. Why? Shit, why not? The clinics I spoke to seemed top notch and its a place I've always wanted to go to. I figured its as good a place as any to spend some time. I am trying to get there in the next couple of weeks. If it doesn't work out, it'll have to wait to the beginning of March as I will be busy with my business.

1. I am seeing that R / T flights from MNL are only $77. 00. Is that right?

2. I have to admit that I have been spoiled by Latin America. Rarely, and I do mean rarely, have I ever gone with a P4P girl. OK, maybe they have been part timers, but not full fledged 'hos. I like to meet normal type girls. Its a little more unpredictable, but I like the chase, and the reward are GREAT. How do normal girls react to foreigners in general (yes, a very broad question).

3. I have had great success in the past on Badoo. I see DIA mentioned a lot here and have seen PinayLove also. I have RTFF so I know it can be flaky, but should one even bother?

4. I love to motorcycle and have done so in every place I've been to. Rentals are cheap there. Is it safe to transverse out into the countryside? I like hanging out in the countryside. Is that cool?

5. I have found that if one explores the smaller surrounding cities of a metropolis, the rewards can be fantastic. Is that so for Toledo, Mandaue, Talisay, Danao, etc?

5. After hundreds of girls, I'm getting harder to please and expect more out of girls. Latina girls accept CIM and anal MOST of the time. Is this status quo for pinays?

I have showed the ropes to a lot of you ISG guys over the years up until one took advantage of me and I stopped. I am a straight shooter and would seek the advice of you guys on the ground.

More questions to come.

Thank you senior members! Looks like I have chosen bad time to enjoy Cebu! But the trip must go on and have to enjoy with what they offer! Will report after my trip!

Ps on a quick note, are the barfines back? Been looking at some bar reports and members are reporting that it is going to be dealt with the girls and not mamasan? I went there after red lips had been raided (around July) and remember I had to wait for the girl to finish work before inviting them!

Sorry for so much questions!

Cebu Taxi's are pretty safe. I have been to Costa Rica many times. I have rented a car in cebu one time in 6 trips and drove north. It is safe. As far as mongering outside of city it is not like CR where there is much going on. Now as far as renting a bike I do not know. But I am 57 and seeing how they drive and reading how many people get killed on those little 50cc I have never had a desirer to try. Taxi's are 90% real honest and cheap. The problems for me. I like A / C, room internet and clean joint. Is when you travel cebu the local places just do not offer that style. So, you will end up at some beach resort that is out of town and cost way to much. And only the girls on work training are the best you will get. Now I am sure if you lived in one of the citys you mentioned. You and the locals would learn the pricing and for them a chance at some strang. But as a traveler I would stay with Cebu, Matacan, Lapu-lapu, Mandeuea is jsut a suburb or cebu. I have been to Danao, There is not much there besides a few ferrys. I would not ride a small bike up that way. But on personal level the whole island is safe. Unless of course a father or husband decides he don't like you hitting on his shit. But you know that is true the world over. The ones that want to play in RP will let you know. Happy hunting

[QUOTE=La Isla; 1337887]So I'm 99% sure I will be coming to Cebu for dental work. Why? Shit, why not? The clinics I spoke to seemed top notch and its a place I've always wanted to go to. I figured its as good a place as any to spend some time. I am trying to get there in the next couple of weeks. If it doesn't work out, it'll have to wait to the beginning of March as I will be busy with my business.

1. I am seeing that R / T flights from MNL are only $77. 00. Is that right?

2. I have to admit that I have been spoiled by Latin America. Rarely, and I do mean rarely, have I ever gone with a P4P girl. OK, maybe they have been part timers, but not full fledged 'hos. I like to meet normal type girls. Its a little more unpredictable, but I like the chase, and the reward are GREAT. How do normal girls react to foreigners in general (yes, a very broad question)..[/QUOTE]I have had dental work done in cebu. 2,3 crown bidges and a couple others, as well as about 4/5 root canels, cost, was about 7000/8000 per route canel and crown, done over 2 yrs ago and no probs/

As for rideing a bike here, good luck,

Girls, there is everything here for you just depends on your personality and charm, and a little cash,

I like going out of the city as well, but as some one said its just a little harder, to find girls and good rooms.
there are plenty flights to cebu from manila for about that price.

[Crossposted to Manila forum too]

I had a 20 days of trip to Cebu, Bohol, Davao and Manila (Makati) and I had a great time.

Rose Marie.

This lady was a 28 yrs old DIA contact. Single, no kids. She came to my hotel at 2am to meet me. She insisted that we should go to the hills for a good time which the taxi driver even refused to go due to bad weather and roads. I took her to Mango square and I was not comfortable with her. After paying for her taxi fare, I buried her into my memory lane and took the delete action from my address book and yahoo messenger. Next please.

Janice.

This 28 yrs old single mother was my first action during the trip. She was in my room at 8am before going to her afternoon job at queensland Hotel Cebu. She was an 8 with only post kid boobs that starting to look like pancakes. Rest of the body and attitude were awesome. However, she got too clingy. After leaving for her duty in the hotel, I decided to make it last time. Next day, she called me only 21 times. My decision was right to off load her and informed her that I was not interested on a stalker. After few hundred unanswered txt messages, she got the point.

Xyza.

Young 20 years old tourism marketing student with a 9 body. She met we first time and brought a friend with her who was a perfect 10. I liked her friend better but it was impossible to separate them to make a pass to her. We had a great Thai dinner in Ayala Mall which they never had before. It was a great experience. I wanted to Lyka to join us but she left since Xyza wanted to stay with me. We had a great time together. This gal had the tightest vagina for a long time I met. She was not good in bed and very lack of experience but she tried to make me happy. Very nice B+ perky breasts with Pinay style nipples. She kept me company several times during my trip.

Rhona.

35 years old nursing student with no kids, another DIA contact was a great hook up. Nice body but she was just 4'11" and too short for me. After having a coffee in breakfast she came to my room and had a great afternoon session with me. After 3 pops, I had to cut her lose. She started talking about her love and other boring stuff. After successfully sending her back to her dormitory, I decided to keep this for only one time affair. Keeps texting me regarding her love to me and the pleasure she had after 5 years of hiatus having a physical relationship with a man.

Rose Lee.

Previous Cebu contact and another DIA girl. 27 yrs old no kids and married to 70 yrs old american ex-pat. She is now selling condos for a developer. Great body She met me again this trip and she was in my room less than 30 minutes of Starbucks coffee meeting. Right away into the business. After our session, she tells me how much she loves me blah blah blah. So nicely got rid of her. She keep texting me at least 4 times a day. She wants to form a business and wants my help now to make her family independent.

Ivy.

A DIA contact of 3 years. She is now 27 years old. No kids and never married. She hooked up with a Danish guy couple of years ago and she has been a good sport and very good upfront personality. Last year in November she hooked me up with her 23 years old perfect 10 cousin whom I had a great time during my Nov. 2011 Cebu trip. Now her cousin back to her old pinoy bf and 5 months pregnant, Ivy kept me company and later she started sleeping with me. She is a 9 but she has a tramp stamp tattoo and A size boobs. But she is a multiorgazmic, pleaser. A men's dream in the bed. She will always remain as a friend. I hope she will get married to this Danish guy, so I can see her in my European trips.

Rizz.

A 25 yrs old Tagged contact in Davao. An HRM officer in a call center. No kids and great body 9 plus. I was in Davao for 5 days and she treated me like her king. She was nice smooth, great sex and a great pleaser. I was her first man after 4 months of slip from her pinoy bf. I really did not understand why a man would leave a woman like her except me since I have no desire to get married at anytime soon. We had a great time in Samal Island and other tourist activities in Davao area. Davao is a great place to visit. It is not a mongering place except meeting prearranged ladies.

Catherine Park

30 years old Korean tourist in Cebu. A perfect 10 and great catch. I met her in the bookstore and invited her for a coffee. After refusing with my invitation, she followed me to Starbucks and joined me there for a drink. While I was getting a drink for her another Starbucks lounge lizard was making moves on her. She politely got rid of him and we continued our conversation. She was staying in Tunes hotel and I invited her to mine. Cebu really got infected by Koreans and guys are very aggressive and throw money around to impress local ladies. Scoring with this lady was a perfect revenge for me. I did not have a Korean chick since my US Army days. She was not great in bed but her perfect body made it very nice to have her. Her sexy body and outfit will always stay in my mind as a good memory.

Kristine.

19 years old DIA contact with no kids kept txt messaging me. Finally decided to meet her in Ayala Mall. After seeing her look and presentation, I decided to pass. I really did not feel comfortable to take her to my hotel. So, I stood her up and went back to my hotel.

Edwina.

Another DIA contact. I know her from online almost two years. 25yrs old single teacher with a pinoy seaman bf. Looks like the guy comes there 3 months out of a year and she feels lonely and she has a gambling problem. She came to meet me in Ayala Mall after a long trip. But she kept talking about her debts and her sorrow life which turned me off. She is really looking for a sugar daddy to feed her gambling addiction. So politely I cut her loose and she did not even chance to see my hotel room. Sometimes thinking by the right head keeps your sanity intact.

Gisebel.

23 yrs old Hotel Resort management graduate. I met her in the lobby of Quest Hotel where she was applying for a position. She is perfect 10 with a million dollars smile. We had a great conversation. After exchanging several txt messages it was obvious that she was with someone and did not want to step out. I wish her the best.

Joan.

19 years old DIA contact from Cavite. She met me in Mall of Asia after a long trip to Manila. She gave me a perception that she was an average girl. Most of the times profiling works but in her case profiling failed in a big time. This girl works in Epson plant and has a good job for a regulars. I wonder why they hired her. Perfect personality on a 10 body. After bringing to my hotel, New World in Makati, we had a great time. She did not have lots of experience but a quick learner gave me a great pleasure. Being 50 years old this gal can cause me a stroke after a month of consecutive living together.

Havana Cafe.

It is up and running. I think it has a new management from Middle East. Ladies are more elegant compare to other clubs but aging 6-7 scale looks. Around the place is infested with ladyboys who are extremely aggressive. Last night 3 of them surrounded me to pressure me. Thanks to security guard of Greenbelt who came to my rescue. I think Mall management needs to be more proactive to keep the aggressors out of the mall.

I did lots of scheduling and shuffling around but sometimes mongering requires serious creativity. I am not into bargirl / wg scene. I like to do my homework and find my own connections. Even sometimes not everything pans out, still I do have the best of the travel adventures and mongering.

Since I started coming, cebu became a serious tourist destination for the asian travelers and somewhat europeans. Getting girls became more difficult despite to my fair look. You really have to put some effort into the mongering scene. Especially Korean infestation here is significant and makes me hate Samsung, Kia and Hyundai. For a curiosity I took a look at the us census bureau trade statistics with Korea and USA is in an average of $13B / year trade deficit. Technically they are traveling in the expense of US taxpayers while we do take care their defense bill and everything else. I think we need to dump this country like an hot potato and concentrate of Philippines which is a true ally of America.

Maybe it's been mentioned in the forum before, but Abellana Sports Complex is a good option for for those of you who enjoy a bit of running exercise if you are staying near Osmeña Circle. The place has among other attractions a pool with lanes and a track for running. It gives you a chance to escape the worst of the traffic noise and pollution while doing your exercise.

As an added bonus the complex at times hosts a very nice display of sporty filipinas, if that's your thing. I'm a big fan of sporty babes myself, so during my stay in Cebu I went there a couple of times to do some track running and to enjoy the view of the occasional track babe.

It's definately not a classic hunting ground, but I believe a good place to approach the girls will be at the south-eastern part of the track near the concrete steps. Almost everyone stops for a break once in a while and this must be a good moment to try and chat up the girls while they are trying to catch their breath.

The entrance is opposite of St. Vincent's hospital on R. Landon Extension (road name). It's roughly 500 m south of Osmeña Circle. Entrance fee to the complex is maximum 15 pesos (extra fee is applied if you want access to the pool) and as far as I remember it's open from 6 AM until 7 or 8 PM. The place normally gets quite busy from 3 to 6 PM when people get off work.

Stay healthy!

The only running I'll be doing is chasing a cute filipina in the bedroom.

[QUOTE=Trail Runner; 1346766]Maybe it's been mentioned in the forum before, but Abellana Sports Complex is a good option for for those of you who enjoy a bit of running exercise if you are staying near Osmeña Circle. The place has among other attractions a pool with lanes and a track for running. It gives you a chance to escape the worst of the traffic noise and pollution while doing your exercise.

As an added bonus the complex at times hosts a very nice display of sporty filipinas, if that's your thing. I'm a big fan of sporty babes myself, so during my stay in Cebu I went there a couple of times to do some track running and to enjoy the view of the occasional track babe.

It's definately not a classic hunting ground, but I believe a good place to approach the girls will be at the south-eastern part of the track near the concrete steps. Almost everyone stops for a break once in a while and this must be a good moment to try and chat up the girls while they are trying to catch their breath.

The entrance is opposite of St. Vincent's hospital on R. Landon Extension (road name). It's roughly 500 m south of Osmeña Circle. Entrance fee to the complex is maximum 15 pesos (extra fee is applied if you want access to the pool) and as far as I remember it's open from 6 AM until 7 or 8 PM. The place normally gets quite busy from 3 to 6 PM when people get off work.

Stay healthy![/QUOTE]This is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Right up there with the guy who wanted to hang around outside universities and hand out business cards that mentioned he was seeking sex in exchange for tuition payments.

From what I heard that track is used by alot of PNP recruits training for the endurance exam. LOL, chat up a recruit and come across as a pervert and you might be sorry.

For the expats who live in Cebu and those who visit that think the Philippines have been 'invaded' (locals term not mine) by Koreans, you have not seen anything yet.

Roughly 35000 Korean nationals are set to come to the 'central visayas' to study english in December. I would think most of them will settle in and around Cebu and some in Bacolod. The department of tourism wants the Koreans to be required to attend a mandatory safety seminar about the laws and regulations of the Philippines. The department also wants PNP officers to learn some simple Korean phrases.

Good luck with that LOL.

Hello all,

I am planning a trip to Cebu for next month and am looking to get some advice from the local guys in the know! So I am usually based in Tokyo but occasionally visit Cebu for family purposes. I will only be in Cebu for a really short time; 2 nights in the Marriott between flights from Japan and trips to neighboring islands to stay with family at Christmas. I will have only a few hours to find a girl and get her back to the hotel at most. So of course, I'm looking to fill my bed with a hot, wild, young Filipina and maybe there are some guys who can offer some wise words as to how best to go about it. Whilst I know there are loads of possible girls in Cebu City, I'd like to meet a really super hot one, around 18-22 yrs if possible. I have read the forums as much as I can and have 3 plans of attack at the moment:

1. Hit a bar on Mango Street or such. I did this last time I stayed in Cebu but didn't barfine. I got a dancer's number and met her the next day for some private fun for free. I could try this again and am not completely adverse to paying for it.

2. Use DIA to hook up with someone before. I have set up a profile and have been looking around, messaging some hot looking girls a bit. I have been openly stating in my profile that I am only looking for fun and not marriage etc. I have a few girls looking to meet up with me but am slightly sceptical that I may be wasting my time, particularly if she isn't all that when we meet. Worst still, there have been some ladyboys messaging me which has made me more nervous of doing the DIA thing. I would not have enough time to meet another DIA girl after.

3. Hit Ayala in the evening after I arrive and look to game a girl straight back to my room. I am reasonably young. 30 yrs old, Caucasian and not bad looking so maybe this route would work better?

I would welcome suggestions and advice from the local crowd. If you have any DIA suggestions too that would be really appreciated. If you go to Tokyo and are looking for advice, I'd be happy to hook you up. Thanks all.

BC

[QUOTE=Basementcello; 1348025]Hello all,

I am planning a trip to Cebu for next month and am looking to get some advice from the local guys in the know! So I am usually based in Tokyo but occasionally visit Cebu for family purposes. I will only be in Cebu for a really short time[SNIP][/QUOTE]Pay for it. If you are searching for the hottest filipina and you have only a few hours, go to the Mango bars where you can pick exactly the type of filipina you desire. If you prefer chasing semi or non pros on dating sites it will take time to meet and sort out the quality from the average filipinas, time you do not have. There are alot of young bucks around Cebu these days, so being 30 will get you a few more looks and giggles but in the end we all have to pay one way or another.

[QUOTE=Basementcello; 1348025]Hello all,

I am planning a trip to Cebu for next month and am looking to get some advice from the local guys in the know![/quote]Hi Cello,

I'm not local but if I were you I'd book a room a Diplomat and walk around the corner to Maverick Bar (opens early aftn). That way you can have several.

Good luck.

Hi there. Thanks for the advice. Can anybody recommend good bars / KTV recently that have a nice atmosphere and good girls? I prefer younger bar girls and am not so bothered on bar fine price since I'll only be there one night at first. I went to a bar called 'Papillon' before, the girls were ok but just wondering where it's at these days.

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1348229]Hi Cello,

I'm not local but if I were you I'd book a room a Diplomat and walk around the corner to Maverick Bar (opens early aftn). That way you can have several.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]

I stumbled upon this on the internet, can't see that it has been posted before. Great footage, interesting interviews, not sure if everything is 100% objective / true.

[url]http://www.channelfix.com/video/239/[/url]

[QUOTE=Wiild; 1353047]I stumbled upon this on the internet, can't see that it has been posted before. Great footage, interesting interviews, not sure if everything is 100% objective / true.

[url]http://www.channelfix.com/video/239/[/url][/QUOTE]I can not play the link back on the iPad, but I am sure that site is associated with the jimmy in Cebu guy who made a hate video about Cebu, so I would say read the comments the guys who made it and run the site have NFI, the jimmy dude was a sleaze who had to leave town it sounds like the same reading the comments the guy is also a low life.

Prostittution in Cebu is no different to any city it here to cater for the locals and visitors, most girls I know live at home with their families, the main thing I find is drug use they use drugs to cope with the late hours and other shit. I have no problem paying girls who take drugs I never ask for drugs and will do drugs with the girls.

F3, since you aren't a native English speaker you may have mistyped. I pretty sure you meant to write, "...nor will I do drugs with...", or "...don't do drugs with....". Native speakers surely understood what you meant, but others might take it the wrong way. X.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1353157]I can not play the link back on the iPad, but I am sure that site is associated with the jimmy in Cebu guy who made a hate video about Cebu, so I would say read the comments the guys who made it and run the site have NFI, the jimmy dude was a sleaze who had to leave town it sounds like the same reading the comments the guy is also a low life.

Prostittution in Cebu is no different to any city it here to cater for the locals and visitors, most girls I know live at home with their families, the main thing I find is drug use they use drugs to cope with the late hours and other shit. I have no problem paying girls who take drugs I never ask for drugs and will do drugs with the girls.[/QUOTE]

It's professionally done and they are fairly objective in most parts. THe beginning and the end are where things seem out of whack. I'm guessing those funding it wanted a little more sensationalism so there was a last minute edit. I could be wrong.

Most bar girls were abused as children. I don't buy that.

Eighty percent are on shabu / meth. I don't think so. Yes, you do see a really wild dancer once in a while. And the next day she looks dazed. Fairly rare, meth users burn out and / or cause problems for bars.

The so-called Sexpat says he treats the girls well, but then at the end seems to say something entirely different. And he refers to religion several times. Suggests everyone deserves forgiveness. I thought it was odd that they showed him unpacking his finished laundry. Oh, but wait, he has a tiny blouse belonging to a girl that he uneasily calls a gf.

Exterior of Mango bars and Lapu2 Mermaid are shown. IBC, near the new convention center is also featured. If that really is an owner or manager on the film, I guess I can understand why the place no longer exists. I don't recognize any of the interior shots. Nor the very well done dance routines. Looks more like something you might find in AC.

If the film footage is legit, it's probably done a whole lot of grief to the people who were interviewed. Either they are actors or they were tricked into appearing on film. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

[QUOTE=Wiild; 1353047]I stumbled upon this on the internet, can't see that it has been posted before. Great footage, interesting interviews, not sure if everything is 100% objective / true.

[url]http://www.channelfix.com/video/239/[/url][/QUOTE]

Thought I'the post about my first brush with an STD and how to get treatment here in Cebu. Four days into a 10 day spell and my foreskin is swollen and there's a small clear liquid discharge, but no pain [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url] – it seems I've got chlamydia. On my first night I had a DIA P4P girl drop by with her cousin. Both I'the had together before without incident. Next day another previous acquaintance (from Pina Love) comes to stay for 24 hours. No girls since then. Unprotected sex with loose women is dangerous – 'no shit Sherlock'.

Anyway, to the main reason for this post: what to do & what it costs. I looked on the net for local urologists and found.

[url]http://www.chonghua.com.ph/index.php/doctors/bio/490.html?type=view[/url]

Nice guy, seemed perfectly competent to me, based in the Chong Hua Medical Arts Centre (taxi driver knew it). I did have to wait nearly 2 hours for him to show up as he has other clinics – on arrival I'the been told to come back an hour later. His fee was 500 pesos for which I got a script for a 3 day course of Azithromycin and (just to be on the safe side) a jab of Ceftriaxone against gonorrhea to be administered in the Emergency Room of the nearby Chong Hua Hospital, near Mango Square ironically enough. The Azith cost 500 pesos and the ER processing and injection cost 1, 870 pesos. So all in all the process took about 4 hours and 3k pesos which obviously could've been better spent. Apparently I might have some diarrhea to look forward to as side effects of the medication and a lot of alcohol is off the menu for a few days. What of course it also costs is a ruined sex holiday (doctor advises no sex for a week) or maybe a divorce (if I was married) when unwanted gifts home get taken home!

I did feel embarrassed as the cute young female ER nurses asked me what my symptoms were, but otherwise there was no guilt-loading from anyone I saw! I tend to travel with Amoxicillin and use it for dealing with strep throat as well as mongers' insurance. But I'm no doctor and self-diagnosis is a fool's game. Best face the consequences and see a doctor ASP, even if it does take hours of waiting around.

I don't know for sure that it was Miss 'Pina Love' who gave the gift of sharing but probably it was, since she has just said 'thanks for telling me hon'! Miss DIA said it couldn't be her or her cousin as they hadn't had sex for weeks (yeah, right!). But neither of them indicated any intention to immediately get checked out despite my plea to do so. And there's another real warning: unless they have the money to get treatment, they won't, even if they know they are a risk. The next monger might just be how they pay for the visit to the doc, so 'caveat emptor' everyone!

[QUOTE=X Man; 1353402]I'm guessing those funding it wanted a little more sensationalism

Most bar girls were abused as children. I don't buy that.

Eighty percent are on shabu / meth. I don't think so. .[/QUOTE]Yeah agree, not an expert on the Cebu scene, with only 3 visits to the Phils but to me it seems drugs and troubled pasts are much less common theyn in other countries, it seems like they wanted to show a dark side of prostitution when to me the Cebu girlie bar prostitution might be one of the more "happy" or less problematic in the world.

[QUOTE=UnhealthyGuy;1353853]His fee was 500 pesos for which I got a script for a 3 day course of Azithromycin and (just to be on the safe side) a jab of Ceftriaxone against gonorrhea to be administered in the Emergency Room of the nearby Chong Hua Hospital, near Mango Square ironically enough. The Azith cost 500 pesos and the ER processing and injection cost 1, 870 pesos. So all in all the process took about 4 hours and 3k pesos which obviously could've been better spent.[/QUOTE]Firstly, I'd like to express my surprise at a separate Cebu forum that links from the main forum. I used to post here 2 years back, with a different handle (lost my password and the email is inactive). Is Cebu now not in the Philippines? LOL!

You could have saved yourself all the trouble and the costs by getting azithromycin directly from the pharmacy. I don't recommend self medicating, but on my mongering trips, Zithromax is always something I buy (be it Africa, or the Far East). It's a good braod spectrum antibiotic that works for throat / chest infections, STD's etc. I use it for tonsillitis which I am prone to. On first signs of infection take 500mg (1g for chlamydia / gonorrhea) , and then 500 mg everyday for 3-4 days. Remember to keep it away from meals (1hr on both sides) or you will have a bad case of indigestion.

[QUOTE=UnhealthyGuy;1353853]I don't know for sure that it was Miss 'Pina Love' who gave the gift of sharing but probably it was, since she has just said 'thanks for telling me hon'! Miss DIA said it couldn't be her or her cousin as they hadn't had sex for weeks (yeah, right!). But neither of them indicated any intention to immediately get checked out despite my plea to do so. And there's another real warning: unless they have the money to get treatment, they won't, even if they know they are a risk. The next monger might just be how they pay for the visit to the doc, so 'caveat emptor' everyone![/QUOTE]Unless you pay for them they will not get it fixed, times like this just buy them the meds and pay them to take it, but serious guys use condoms, I posted last week another monger had a std and was had sexed 10 or more girls with out condoms.

The reports breaks down cebu into a number of areas where to find girls.

Mall hunting.

The 3 malls mentioned is.

Robinsons. I went there on weeknights and a Saturday morning and I have found the pickings very slim ie 1-2 potientials but in order to do this activity with some measure of success you would have to be prepared to sit at the coffee shop for hours. I was there for about an 1hr and was bored to tears, tho I have noticed some older white guys willing to sit for what looks like 3-4 hours just sitting and nursing a cup of coffee, secondly the possible girls that are working as freelancers I would rate as 4-5 maybe a few 6 and it has been reported that is 1000 ps 1usd=40ps ie 25 USD in my mond not worth the effort.

SM mall. This place is huge and I didn't know where to look but I would suspect the same BS.

Ayala terraces. Here I sa more freelancers but as usual they were not very attractive.

Local brothel CASA.

I went with a local guide tipped him 100 ps to take me to a local Casa by taxi, only went to one where I was quoted 1300 originally but then I complained that was too much and it was dropped down to 1000 which I would assume included his commission, this casa was in the jaksosalem / bonifacia area but given what I saw which was girls that looked at best 6 / s but they looked dirty and druggies I made a quick retreat. I have read that there are other casa in that area in the streets running off jaksosalem but I assume they would be of the same quality and given the inconvenieced I passed on looking for other alternatives.

Streetwalkers.

I jave heard but did not bother to look at the street walkers in junquera or juanan osmana gieb my impression is that the walkers are dangerous, not very attractive and not that cheap.

Freelancers at disco.

Pump. I went to pump and it was mostly transexuals, I asked a korean who was tehre after I saw him negotiate with a younger girls who was prob only a 6 but was prob 22yrs old but he told me she wanted 3000ps as opening bid.

Julianna / Jave. This place had more freelances but given the attractivesness of the freelances ie 6-7s compared to the 8-9s in the bikini bars I didn't bother to try with the freelances because of these reasons. To talk to these girls who have to appraoch them they don't give you more clear cut signals compared to viet / indo freelancers so you run the risk of offending a normal girl, then why need to offer to buy them a drink worth 2 dollars before you can even start price negotiations so imagine if you were to approace 5 girls. I'm not one to like wasting money. So given the prices of 1500-2000mfor these girls compared to the bikinibar girls I stuck with bikini bars.

Areas around the discos.

At night outside the disco are freelancers without money to pay the 100ps entry fee, generally they have been very unattractive girls ladyboys or other undisirables.

Dating Sites.

Admittedly I left this to the very last minute and so I didn't do the proper screening so this could have been a better outcome, but I contatced 3 girls via the site. 1 go 3 number 2 replied back. 2 wanted to do the friends thing sure ill prob be able to seduce them prob as the same level of success as in Vn but here I just wanted a quick fuck and I made that clear with them both telling me to cease communications.

Bikini bars.

Right now the bars in cebu are undergoing close scrutiny by the police so many bars are claiming there are no bar fine and without a bar fine system girls are now setting there own prices based on what they think they are worth some are accurate others are laughable.

I won't name bars as that might not be a good but I would give a general idea of what to expect.

Bar A.

No bar fine, drinks are 60-65pes lady drink 150-200pes supposedly you can organise to meet the lady after the bar closes at 3pm and do something again each girl would be setting her own prices, I haven't asked any girls at this bar.

BAr B.

Similar drink and lady drink costs, I had a friend get a girl for 2200 and I asked a girl and she wanted 3700 her friend 4000 here the girls 6-8s in looks prob only 2 who are 8 / s.

BAr C.

Drinks same as before lady drink 150, many pretty girls here with the cost being purchase 5 ady drinks =750 + 1700 to the girl =2450 in my mind one of the better bars which I intend to take 1-2 girls from later.

Bar D.

Drink 65 LD 150 here I couldn't get a definate asnswer to the cast of the ladies but tehre was one attractive girl worth my attention.

Bar E.

Drinks here 75 LD 200 and was told cost ladies 2000. Lost of young heavily made up girls some passable but prib in the 7's mostly.

Bar F drinsk 75+ Ld 200, I took a 8 from here she asked 2500 and I said the bars here were 1700 but I'm happy to give her 2000. I had previously visit 2 times before once with her flirting with me for no LD, the second time bought 2 LD and me massaging her breasts and french kissing. When I took her I paied 1 LD, gave her 2000 and she stayed with me from 11pm to 10am 3 shots I tipped her 300 so thats a total of 2500 or roughly 60 USD of some very good sex and a very GFE.

Bar G.

Drinks only 50, LD 120, some VERY sexy girls here but here the cost is negotiated with the girls and I asked two girls one wanted 3000, the other wanted 4000-5000, this pace is a good place to enjoy a drink and watch girls dance.

Bar H.

This bar drinsk 75, LD200 cost is 2000 and in my eyes 2-3 grils worthe the effort, I too a girl that had a 8 face but no breast and tiny body but for whatever reason had no skin elasticity but nevertheless was very sexy, she had agreed to stay till morning but as after I fucked her the first time but couldn't cum I said lets sleep and let me rest as I'm more suited for morning fucks. She then told me that she had awork function that she had to attend at 8am otherwise she would be fined, something about her made me trust her so she stayed from 11pm till 2am. I fucked her 2 times payed 2200+300tip=2500 for another GFE.

There are a few more bars but given the lass attarctive girls and / or higher drink / LD prices I can't be bothered to describe.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken; 1355396]The reports breaks down cebu into a number of areas where to find girls.

Mall hunting.[/QUOTE]MC.

This is what I wrote on the other forum.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2618-Cebu&p=1355587&viewfull=1#post1355587[/url]

Some recent information for those coming the first time to Cebu City:

Hotel:

Stayed at the Beverly Boutique Hotel (formerly known as Eddies) – totally girl friendly. Had booked a double room.

Taxi from the airport to the hotel costs 200 PHP.

'bikini bars' (Sisters, Pussycat, Eric the Viking, etc.) are a 2 minutes walk away.

Bikini bars:

Drinks are cheaper than in AC, but take-out of any girl costs 3. 000 PHP (long time)

Mango Square:

A 10 minutes walk from the a. M. Hotel.

A lot of lady boys around – beware.

SW can be found here too (street towards Robinsons).1. 000-1. 500 PHP short time. But not the best looking girls.

Beer bars on Mango square: nice for watching the parade of girls and lady boys.

Juliana Disco: some stunners can be found here – charge 2. 500-3. 000 PHP

[url]http://weather.com.ph/announcements/super-typhoon-bopha-26w-update-number-018[/url]

NAME HAS CHANGED TO "PABLO" FOR LOCAL PHIL ZONE / Should diminish to a "Cat 3" by the time it strikes Cebu and certainly Negros / Expect widespread flooding; Resort areas may be washed out on places like Mactan Island (Lapu-Lapu)

According to the Saffir-Simpson damage scale the potential property damage and flooding from a storm ofBopha'sstrength (category 4) at landfall includes:

Storm surge generally 4. 0-5. 5 metres (13-18 feet) above normal.

Curtainwall failures with some complete roof structure failures on small residences.

Shrubs, trees, and all signs are blown down.

Complete destruction of mobile homes.

Extensive damage to doors and windows.

Low-lying escape routes may be cut by rising water 3-5 hours before arrival of the centre of the storm.

Major damage to lower floors of structures near the shore.

Terrain lower than 3 metres (10 feet) above sea level may be flooded requiring massive evacuation of residential areas as far inland as 10 km (6 miles).

There is also the potential for flooding further inland due to heavy rain.

[url]http://jtwccdn.appspot.com/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/warnings/wp2612prog.txt[/url]

[url]http://weather.com.ph/announcements/super-typhoon-bopha-26w-update-number-018[/url]

Important Note: This howler is similar in strength and track of Super Typhoon Mike (Ruping) which passed over Palau in November 1990. Please take all precautionary measures on this extremely dangerous cyclone

Not according to CDN that says it will hit same area that Sendong did last year such as CDO and Illigan etc. Will be rain etc in Cebu and am sure localised floods but not directly Cebu.

Which is why I like the place as seems well protected from most things albeit there is the odd earthquake but that is fine (been in worse earthquakes elsewhere in the world and the Cebu stuff was for baklas LOL)

[url]http://www.cdn.ph/news_details.php?id=15302[/url]

But friends etc in Cebu are watching this closely to see if it changes course. This is a normal day in the Philippines, a country that has so many typoons etc a year

I am now in Cebu if anyone is around. I was unable to post in the travel section for some reason.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1355820]Not according to CDN that says it will hit same area that Sendong did last year such as CDO and Illigan etc. Will be rain etc in Cebu and am sure localised floods but not directly Cebu.

Which is why I like the place as seems well protected from most things albeit there is the odd earthquake but that is fine (been in worse earthquakes elsewhere in the world and the Cebu stuff was for baklas LOL)

[url]http://www.cdn.ph/news_details.php?id=15302[/url]

But friends etc in Cebu are watching this closely to see if it changes course. This is a normal day in the Philippines, a country that has so many typoons etc a year[/QUOTE]Most are presently looking at the bright sunshine and not preparing in the least, having been deeply affected by "manana syndrome", LOL. So right now would be the ideal time to evacuate if one is staying at one of those so-called "beachfront" resorts. Sorry, but this is not just another typical typhoon. The very same attitude is what did New York in, which I just survived. Of course I'm also assuming that you all have seen the videos of the silly panic over a non-existent "tsunami" that occurred during the earthquake (I have been there since then). The only "protected" area might be AFTER landfall in Cebu, but that's only rolling the dice. I wouldn't gamble with my own life as some had done here in "Mobwives Land", and lost their lives in the process along the shoreline.

I saw the CDN post, it's much in the same lassez-faire style, I suggest those in or about to visit the area to take heed, this is not a "chicken little" warning in the least. The track will be mostly unpredictable as is usual for a typhoon of this size. Have you even noted it's size, LOL? It's strength is in the "Super Typhoon range at the moment still gathering strength, and even if it diminishes by passing over Mindanao (which would be unusual) there is till a considerable body of water to regain power before making it's next landfall. Apparently you have never seen the evidence of the last Super Typhoon's damage to Mactan and Cebu proper named "Mike":

[url]http://www.livingincebuforums.com/ipb/topic/54719-major-typhoon-heading-for-cebu/page__st__60[/url]

This is direct surge action against the coast. I'd recommend moving to higher ground as soon as it's possible, especially considering that movement is a specialty developed by those of us on this forum. That way you'll have a jump on the locals who may not get the word until it's too late, and move in a fashion similar to the panic in the streets as previously noted, and clog up the transport that is needed. Find out when high tide is going to occur, for that will be the time of worst combined wave action (14 feet recorded at Battery Park in NYC) making travel impossible anyway.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VKFJp56lqq0[/url]

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[QUOTE=Midniterider;1355984]This is direct surge action against the coast.[SNIP][/quote]MR,

Very bad form to 'flood post'! IE; to multi-post the same basic content over and over without a reply. Also a [b]BIG[/b] No-no to cut and paste direct quotes from other forums even if you were the one to post it on the other forum, which you did not. Are you in Cebu now? No reason to get so hysterical IMO.

I agree with WR, the storm will pass to the south and Cebu will not take a direct hit. There will be heavy rains, high winds, localized flooding, some storm surge, many people who have built in or along drainage canals will have homes washed away. The sun will come out on Wednesday and the cleanup will begin.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken; 1355396]The reports breaks down cebu into a number of areas where to find girls.

Mall hunting.

The 3 malls mentioned is.

There are a few more bars but given the lass attarctive girls and / or higher drink / LD prices I can't be bothered to describe.[/QUOTE]I have to say your experience is in line with mine. I do not think Cebu is much of a short term destination for mongering, at least to the unguided.

[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;1356471]I have to say your experience is in line with mine. I do not think Cebu is much of a short term destination for mongering, at least to the unguided.[/QUOTE]For short holidays stick to AC, Cebu is best when you have a month or more, I live here so I long term here, it was better 5 years ago, it good for guys looking to pick up girls but not like AC from what I hear.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1356467]MR,

I agree with WR, the storm will pass to the south and Cebu will not take a direct hit. There will be heavy rains, high winds, localized flooding, some storm surge, many people who have built in or along drainage canals will have homes washed away. The sun will come out on Wednesday and the cleanup will begin.[/QUOTE]And that is what happened. Winds and lots of rain nothing much, some localised flooding which is not unusal given how bad the infrastructure is in parts of Cebu.

Am told by friends that Butuan took hammering.

Cebu is fine and seems some people are going to Starbucks etc so life seems OK if that is true

Ok, advice taken. I was probably wasting my time on here trying to help anyway, no biggie. Now I know what to expect next time. Funny I was commended for keeping people informed on other forums, as they were returning the favor in real time. I'll be back soon, but sometimes a slightly different perspective is useful, as it certainly was for those on Mindanao.

[QUOTE=Midniterider;1357448]Ok, advice taken. I was probably wasting my time on here trying to help anyway, no biggie. Now I know what to expect next time. Funny I was commended for keeping people informed on other forums, as they were returning the favor in real time. I'll be back soon, but sometimes a slightly different perspective is useful, as it certainly was for those on Mindanao.[/QUOTE]Unless you are posting personal experiance or some useful link that is hard to find in google (like the ones that where posted in the linc forums) , then no point spamming this forum I did not find your post useful, I also did not bother posting a report about Cebu as we did not get the storm. If any one asks here I will reply.

Do not post here about Mindanao there is another thread in the Philippine area for that area.

Going to Cebu Feb 4 to 28.

Is anyone going to be wing man?

There are alot of great places in Cebu too.

[QUOTE=YellowStar45; 1369625]Going to Cebu Feb 4 to 28.

Is anyone going to be wing man?

There are alot of great places in Cebu too.[/QUOTE]YS45,

I was going to suggest you post in the Philippine Travel Announcements section but I see you already did that. I notice your stay will be longer than 22 days, that means you will need to get a visa extension from BI in Mandaue. Cost 3030p* (2012 prices not sure if there was an increase Jan 1st). Wear long pants, closed toe shoes, and a shirt with a collar like a golf shirt. Although a clean tshirt will do as long as it`s not a wife beater. No shorts, no flipflops, no sandals. If you forget and show up with flipflops or shorts there are a few locals that hang around the gate and will `rent`you some shoes or long pants, but they are dirty and small.

Post a trip report stud.

Enjoy the Philippines.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1369962]YS45,

I was going to suggest you post in the Philippine Travel Announcements section but I see you already did that. I notice Enjoy the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Or if you arrive in Manila NAIA Terminal 1 see earlier FRs.

A little bit of RTFF does not hurt!

You most likely will be going to Ayala mall a few times to meet girls or shop. You can drop your passport off at Olivis travel and pick up your new visa the next day. It's a big time saver and time is money when your in the Philippines. I believe I payed a service fee of 500 peso. I assume any mall will have at least one agency offering the service.

[QUOTE=Bob Bowie;1370856]You most likely will be going to Ayala mall a few times to meet girls or shop. You can drop your passport off at Olivis travel and pick up your new visa the next day. It's a big time saver and time is money when your in the Philippines. I believe I payed a service fee of 500 peso. I assume any mall will have at least one agency offering the service.[/QUOTE]With the number of Cebu tourists on the rise there has been an increased number of 'visa service' companies that have opened shop. Personally taking the risk of losing my passport far outweighs the couple of hours that I spend at BI and I get the visa extension on the spot. Trusting a visa service with your passport can be risky. The visa service companies mostly use middlemen or fixers to get the visa extension and the foreigner is often unaware that their passport goes through several hands before being returned and that increases the chance your passport could be lost.

I used a visa service years ago but the last time I used one the fee started to increase and the normally reliable visa service took 6 days to return my passport. I told myself never again. Every day I would go to the visa service office and they would give me excuses and there I was shitting bricks worried they had lost my passport. I was kicking myself for trusting a local with something that was valuable to me. Never again.

Not sure how it is in Cebu but in Davao there is a visa service office right next to the immigration office at Victoria mall. No passing around of passports. You can actually see the person take your passport and walk over to the long line. Risk is close to zero and I personally know of about 40-50 cases where it was used with 100% success. So maybe this could be an option also in Cebu? I hate to stand in line.

Barba

[QUOTE=Barba; 1370945]Not sure how it is in Cebu but in Davao there is a visa service office right next to the immigration office at Victoria mall. No passing around of passports. You can actually see the person take your passport and walk over to the long line. Risk is close to zero and I personally know of about 40-50 cases where it was used with 100% success. So maybe this could be an option also in Cebu? I hate to stand in line.

Barba[/QUOTE]BI Mandaue is located just off a busy industrial area and is tucked down a small mostly residential side street. While there might be a few visa service offices around BI, why pay the extra when you already made the trip and it's much easier to walk in BI and get the extension done in the same time. Most visa service offices are located on Mango or in a mall that foreigners frequent. I have not seen any signs near BI recently that offer visa services.

Please note that as of mid 2012 BI Mandaue and NBI Cebu offices (I can't comment on other Gov locations in the Philippines) have implemented a [b]NO FIXER[/b] Policy. This wholesale reform means it takes just as long to process the application-extension as the fixer will take. Gone are the days when long lines exist and the fixers walk to the front of the line and have instant access to the officials to get their papers processed first.

Previously BI Mandaue was a distaster with long lines and even longer wait times. Things are much much better and it's a very easy process now at BI. Even NBI has gone digital and getting an NBI clearance takes an hour not weeks like it did with the old system.

Barba, I hear ya about waiting in line and I agree. I used a visa service before 2011 when paying up to 1000php to a visa service office was well worth it to avoid waiting in lines all day in a crowded office for a priority number to be called. Now things have improved to the point where it's a simple process. Last time in BI it took me 60mins to get the extension and it wasn't crowded or hot. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1371356Now things have improved to the point where it's a simple process. Last time in BI it took me 60mins to get the extension and it wasn't crowded or hot. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Evolution. Cebu is some years before Davao in many aspects, and probably also when it comes to this. Few things annoy me more than these fixers jumping in front of me in lines. I also implement a NO FIXER policy if I am in the line. This "fixing" a means to an end for many guys and girls that have no other work, I get that, but in this case it is just dysfunctional and annoying.

B.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1371356]. .

Please note that as of mid 2012 BI Mandaue and NBI Cebu offices (I can't comment on other Gov locations in the Philippines) have implemented a [b]NO FIXER[/b] Policy. This wholesale reform means it takes just as long to process the application-extension as the fixer will take. Gone are the days when long lines exist and the fixers walk to the front of the line and have instant access to the officials to get their papers processed first.[/QUOTE]I am trying to find the announcement from late last year that BOI (from a certain date that I cannot remember) will no longer allow tourist agencies and others to process visa applications and extensions. It must be done in person by the passport holder. Does anyone have it?

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1371479]I am trying to find the announcement from late last year that BOI (from a certain date that I cannot remember) will no longer allow tourist agencies and others to process visa applications and extensions. It must be done in person by the passport holder. Does anyone have it?[/QUOTE]It should be on the BI website, I will take a look.

RK,

Here is the news release from BI.

[url]http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=839&Itemid=103[/url]

Some very interesting stories and news releases on the BI website, like the two Chinese nationals who faked BI entry and exit stamps to avoid paying extension fees.

There is a immigration office on the basement level of Casino in Cebu . Not sure of what services they do?

I was going to check it out but they were closed that day for some holiday.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1371652]There is a immigration office on the basement level of Casino in Cebu. Not sure of what services they do?

I was going to check it out but they were closed that day for some holiday.[/QUOTE]There are three PAGCOR casinos located in and around Cebu. One located on the 3rd floor Crown Regency Fuente, one in Waterfront Lahug, and another in Waterfront Mactan. I will assume you mean Waterfront Lahug.

There is no BI office in Waterfront Lahug but there is a Philippine Retirement Authority (PRA) office located on the second floor of the main lobby. This office deals only with foreigners or previous Filipino nationals who reside outside the Philippines and want to retire in the Philippines. The PRA office does not have anything to do with normal immigration issues and no regular BI services are offered at the office.

The PRA is a PI government created entity that is under the control of the Board of Investments (BOI). At the PRA office anyone looking to retire in the Philippines can apply for a Special Residents Retiree's Visa (SRRV). This type of visa is a multiple entry visa issued by BI and SRRV visa holders have increased privileges such as;

-Option of permanent residency

-Multiple entry

-Exempted from BI exit clearance and re-entry permits and annual report.

-Exempted from import and customs duties and taxes for household personal goods up to $7000USD.

-Exempted from travel tax and special study permit fees

-Tax free remittance of annuities and pensions.

[u][b]SRRA visa holders also have access through the PRA to get assistance and advice when dealing with other PI Gov issues such as;[/b][/u]

-Obtaining alien employment permit. NBI clearance.

-Tax exemption-extension certificates.

-BIR Tax identification number

-PI drivers license.

[u][b]I visited the PRA office in 2009 when I was looking at buying a condo in Cebu. They were helpful but there is a downside to obtaining a SRRV.[/b][/u]

-Applicants have to be 35+
-Obtain valid medical and NBI clearances plus a police certificates from the current country of residence.

-One time processing fee of 1400USD. Annual report fee (not disclosed)

-Certificate of Retirees Deposit: -
-1A-Without Pension-35-49yrs old 50000USD- 50yrs+ 20000USD.

-1B-With Pension- 50yrs+ 10000USD.

-Under the 'with pension' scheme the applicant can't engage in a business or be employed in the Philippines.

-Minimum amount of monthly pension for single applicant- 800USD. Married applicant- 1000USD.

The money is held 'in trust' in an authorized PI bank and can only be applied to approved investments inside the Philippines. These investments include;

-Purchase of a condo.

-Long term lease of house and lot (lease not shorter than 20yrs)

-Purchase of a golf club or country club membership.

If a foreigner was looking at buying a condo in the Philippines the SRRV can be a win-win visa, but keep in mind that if the value of the property drops below the minimum investment the government can demand you add additional funds. If you sell your condo your visa will be suspended within 30 days unless the proper investment level is manintained in trust at a PI bank.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1371813]there is a Philippine Retirement Authority (PRA) office located on the second floor of the main lobby. This office deals only with foreigners or previous Filipino nationals who reside outside the Philippines and want to retire in the Philippines. The PRA office does not have anything to do with normal immigration issues and no regular BI services are offered at the office.[/QUOTE]SA.

This office has been relocated but I need to remember where. My brain is not working today. But I received an email and a text from the lady I met there.

[url]http://www.pra.gov.ph/main/srrv_program[/url]

[url]http://www.pra.gov.ph/main/about_pra?page=1#cebu[/url]

RK FR a good one on retirement etc in another thread also for those interested

Going online I can find a Tagalog translation webpage that helps me get the general jist of online chatter that I want to understand. Is there a good site for Cebuano / Visayan?

Full disclosure, I just want to understand more of what I read online when my Filipina friends converse on FB. For example, a gal posts on FB saying she got a random phone text asking about "ms abc". The first thing I think is that one of her foreign friends has made a mistake. From what I can understand in their language, one of her friends replies,". Blah, blah, is it a foreinger. Asking. Blah?". And then her answer is,"Hahay, puhon na mars. Lagi lisod man dii ning gwapa noh kay monitoron man". If anyone cares to do a translation, I'd appreciate it.

Meanwhile, I should study a bit.

[QUOTE=X Man; 1382799]Going online I can find a Tagalog translation webpage that helps me get the general jist of online chatter that I want to understand. Is there a good site for Cebuano / Visayan?

Full disclosure, I just want to understand more of what I read online when my Filipina friends converse on FB. For example, a gal posts on FB saying she got a random phone text asking about "ms abc". The first thing I think is that one of her foreign friends has made a mistake. From what I can understand in their language, one of her friends replies,". Blah, blah, is it a foreinger. Asking. Blah?". And then her answer is,"Hahay, puhon na mars. Lagi lisod man dii ning gwapa noh kay monitoron man". If anyone cares to do a translation, I'd appreciate it.

Meanwhile, I should study a bit.[/QUOTE]If you go to yahoo answers.Philippines, you can post your question there. Normally at least one Pinay is happy to translate for you.

I enjoyed reading the cebu forum while on holiday here in the Phils, some good stories although the malls and nightspots seemed a bit vague with mixed reports. So as I was bored this past Sunday with not much to do I thought I would check out the situation and write a report. I'm pretty rusty as I haven't done any mongering in 4 years but what the hell you only live once and I'll probably never be back to Cebu. My previous experience has been BBK, Pattaya, Dubai, Sinapore.

I'm 35, tall, in good shape.

At about 12. 30pm first stop was Robinsons Mall / Center, I read it is near all the nightspots and noticed some of them on the way past. I found some European guys in the coffee at the back on the ground floor, most of them alone. No one at Bo's out front. After a walk around I grabbed a computer at the internet cafe and spent an hour playing on the net and keeping an eye on anything going on in the coffee shop and outside. From what I could tell there was 0% with only regular shoppers. I was trying to find out on the net if the bars were open Sunday night? Decided to flag Robinsons and head to Ayala.

Must have got to Ayala about 2pm. Went in past Bo's coffee (mentioned in forums a couple of times) where some European guys were hanging out. Had a good walk around for an hour. Noticed a few European guys walking around by themselves. Nothing out of the ordinary caught my eye, sure there was a lot of talent but I can't say I had any girls making any real eye contact except for a couple of girls inside one of the restaurants thru the safety of the glass. I didn't bother trying to chat up shop girls as I'm not after a girlfriend. A tall girl at one of the stalls was friendly when I talked to her as they all are. After I finished my shopping and a late lunch I decided to check out the terraces. I couldn't see anything happening at Bo's, and the coffee shop below had 3 European guys sitting at 3 different tables outside playing on their cell phones looking desperate. I did a lap and ended up at a coffee place on the ground floor far at one end semi under cover from the walkways above. A couple of European guys were sitting around but once again I witnessed 0% action although I did noticed a couple of darker skin Filipinos around. Correct me if I'm wrong but in Thailand the darker skin is normally a good sign of a working girl (as the poorer girls from the provinces generally have darker skin. I presume this is the same in Phil's?) Just before I got up to leave a European guy walked past by himself heading toward the entrance of the complex looking like he was on his way out. After I left the coffee place I walked the same way and noticed he was sitting chatting to a girl. This left me wondering if this was a pickup or not, I had the feeling it was a pickup but who knows. I decided to give it some time and check out the same place later on to see if I could get the desired result. I decided in the mean time to go see if I could find a place to get a back massage and kill some time. I spent about half an hour walking around trying to find a massage shop or find one of the mall-map kiosks that actually worked. When I walked past the tall girl at the stall mentioned previously she gave me a friendly look and a smile. With me thinking I have been walking around to long in here with no shopping to show for it. Then 5 minutes later (maybe about 4:30pm) randomly while I was walking along on the second floor in the middle of the mall a girl just approaches me from behind and starts a conversation, she said that she is a (funny enough) massage girl who works in one of the other malls but now she has finished work and would I like a massage. I decided just to go along and see where this took me so I said sure why not. She also told me to walk with her almost straight away so we didn't draw attention. Its quite hard to judge a girls looks when at such short notice but she had a lovely face and after she walked a head of me a couple of times I was very happy to judge her a 8/10, nice slim body good figure and about 5'5 with normal shoes. So while walking along we had a bit of a chit chat all the usual nonsense, I suggested we go into a coffee shop but that didn't seem to register. Then she asked were I was staying, I told her I wasn't staying in town (which I wasn't) to which she suggested we get a short time hotel for three hours 250 Pecos. (I didn't know they existed in Cebu even after I had read the forums). So Anyway I said sure lets go (thinking now this girl is definitely a pro but possible GFE). On the way out we walked past the stall girl I mentioned previously who was having a good laugh with her friends as I'm sure she knew what was going down. (the walk of shame in a mall is a new one for me)

So to summarize Ayala, in my short experience. I would say it would be a pretty brave girl to approach a guy sitting at Bo's or the coffee shop under it. Its pretty much in full public view of all the terraces, and this one defiantly didn't want to be seen picking up in the mall. I think the far end away from the crowds and observers on the balcony's would be a better bet as a first try. Keep an eye out for girls with slightly darker skin. Experienced mongers please correct me if I'm wrong. Shop girls I didn't try but could be a possibility if your after a GF rather than a hooker.

So we got to this short time hotel, I have no idea what it was called or where it was. The girl I'm with knew the lady there (pro pro pro) and quickly organized a room with supplied condom. Her personality definably changed once we got to the hotel, it was like we are at the hotel now I can stop being GFE. I have read similar reports on here and now know what you guys mean. This is different from all the Thai's I've had who generally keep their personality consistent. At this stage I had only agreed to a massage, so anyway she goes in to use the toilet and comes out in some pretty sexy underwear. I was kinda expecting we both shower but apparently they don't do that here. I asked how much the massage was and she said 500, to which I thought okay whatever this isn't going to be where it ends, agreed and stripped down to my underwear and let her go to work. After a whole 2 minutes she asked me to turn over and then proceeded to started rubbing my cock through my underwear and asked if I would like extra service. She took her bra off and let me rub her tits to help me make my decision, unfortunately she must have had tissues stuffed in her bra back at the mall because her tits were a disappointment. Not to worry however I'm more of a ass man and she had a great ass and figure. She then mentioned sex and when I asked how much she said 5000 Pecos, with me thinking geeze she must think I have no idea. Anyway I wasn't going to let her get away with that so offered her the going rate (replacing massage cost) which she accepted to my surprise with no further negotiation (a bad sign maybe ). Things started to go downhill pretty quickly from there. She was pretty intent on getting on with business by rubbing me hard despite my saying "what about the rest of my massage". Then I asked if I could play with her kitty to which she said "bleeding only sex condom etc". Unfortunately my last experience with a bleeding girl was a do anything German, the short of it was. Blood everywhere and it really turned me off doing that ever again. So at this point I was really put off. She was a little upset (probably thinking she wasn't going to get any money). I explained to her that she moved way to fast and it wasn't going to happen like this. At this point she decided it was a good time to finish my massage and spent a good 30 minutes on me after which I gave her a massage (I actually quite enjoy massaging a girl especially if they have a hot body) That regained some arousal and we finished by me sitting on her while she gave me a handjob. I did pay her, no tip or taxi money.

In conclusion this was only one experience, but I wouldn't recommend Cebu malls for no strings sex unless you really have nothing else better to do, a GF maybe although you can find a GF by just being in the Philippines, using public transport and talking to people. I have to say this was worse than my worst experience in Thailand, at least they tell you they are bleeding before you decide to take them home!

[QUOTE=Huboon;1393758]I enjoyed reading the cebu forum while on holiday here in the Phils, some good stories although the malls and nightspots seemed a bit vague with mixed reports. So as I was bored this past Sunday with not much to do I thought I would check out the situation and write a report. I'm pretty rusty as I haven't done any mongering in 4 years but what the hell you only live once and I'll probably never be back to Cebu. My previous experience has been BBK, Pattaya, Dubai, Sinapore.[SNIP][/quote]Hu,

Umm you mentioned you were not looking for a pro, but you went with a pro. You didn't bother to interview her and ask important Q's. Things like, are you on your period? How much? How long? What do I get for the price? Anal, CIM, Facial or BBBJ available? Shaved, waxed or hairy as my imported asshole crack?

She did her job mate. You didn't do yours. So why were you upset she changed into a pro from a playful GFE? That's her job, to get you off and get your cash as quick as possible. You fell for the illusion. You confess you are not a monger so I will cut you some slack. There are 3 or 4 Queensland hotels around Cebu City, they are the king of short-time stays. Many other smaller short time hotels around. Taxi drivers all know them. (Eurotel, SOGO, Prince Court, ect).

FYI, many newbies to Cebu confuse Robinsons Mall with Robinsons Cybergate Mall. Both are located on Fuente circle. I watched a dozen or more newbs walk in or around Cybergate a few weeks ago. Some needed help loading a phone, some asked the guard where to get a netcafe when they just walked past it on the way inside. Some asked the guard where Bo's coffee was located, so clearly they were lost.

I do however think you visited the right Robinsons. You missed my posts awhile back where I mentioned that most of the freelance action has moved down stairs to the food court area. The word has gotten out with locals about Bo's on the first floor being a spot for pickup girls. So next time make the rounds downstairs or go walk around on the upper floors and you might be surprised. But then again you seem too green to realize which filipinas are there to shop and socialize and which filipinas are there to be picked up.

Ayala mall. There are freelance filipinas around Ayala. Most are high mileage, most are filipinas who are either former bargirls who can't work in a bar for various reasons or are current bargirls. They walk the mall during the day and work in the bar at night. Personally I avoid the high mileage filipinas and seek out the younger student semi-pros. Just be careful, if you go up to a filipina who is not there to meet guys you might get your ass in trouble. Also FYI there are 3 or 4 Bo's coffee locations in Ayala mall. The one most mentioned is on the second floor next to Watsons pharmacy, but again the girls who stand around at the railing are higher mileage filipinas. IMO the better time of day to go looking for mall freelancers would be in the late afternoon 3-6pm. Filipinas will sleep in late and if its hot outside most might wait until it cools off to go out hunting fat foreigner tummies to ride.

Your impression that darker skinned girls are more likely to be working girls is bola. It's true somewhat in Thailand but in the Philippines it's not true. Filipinas that go with foreigners come in alot of colors.

Your experience there seems different than mine, SA. I'm in there a lot, either to eat occasionally at the food court or to do grocery shopping in the supermarket, and I don't recall seeing anything. Pro or semi-pro. Just lots of eye-candy (damn, I love those schoolgirls in uniforms!).

Perhaps I'm just missing things. I'll take your word for it that there are possibilities there. I generally rely on getting The Look, but I've never received that sort of eye contact there.

Outside, near the pedestrian overpass and the corner of F. Ramos is another story, of course.

Especially in Ayala near Bos where SA noted, lots hang there and I have seen a few newbies think they are chatting up a hot women. As I noted before, they sit by Watsons and then go inside to see their mates to get some free hair curling and make up so they are good for the evening.

Plenty girls Ayala but you neeed to observe for example any schoolie in uniform with FM high heels is likely on the look out. All schools only school allow 2" max or flats not the FM stuff I like. Have seen a few with FM heels on (clearly changed when got to mall) and lots eye contact.

But as SA said be careful. Look, learn and watch don't just rush in as you may get your backside fried

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1393792]Hu,

Umm you mentioned you were not looking for a pro, but you went with a pro. You didn't bother to interview her and ask important Q's. Things like, are you on your period? How much? How long? What do I get for the price? Anal, CIM, Facial or BBBJ available? Shaved, waxed or hairy as my imported asshole crack?

She did her job mate. You didn't do yours. So why were you upset she changed into a pro from a playful GFE? That's her job, to get you off and get your cash as quick as possible. You fell for the illusion. You confess you are not a monger so I will cut you some slack.[/QUOTE]Hu, that's about every 'newb' mistake one can make. In the same vein, recently a gent wrote on the AC thread, saying he had walked the streets for hours each day and night, looking for fresh GFE. He stated he was uninterested in 'pro's. AC is not that kind of place, the snatch is mostly in the bars (pros). He, and Hu, have apparently went to Phils without spending a lot of time reading the Phils boards. In defense of Hu, the Cebu thread has been bare lately; not a lot of reports.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1394116]Especially in Ayala near Bos where SA noted, lots hang there and I have seen a few newbies think they are chatting up a hot women. As I noted before, they sit by Watsons and then go inside to see their mates to get some free hair curling and make up so they are good for the evening.

Plenty girls Ayala but you neeed to observe for example any schoolie in uniform with FM high heels is likely on the look out. All schools only school allow 2" max or flats not the FM stuff I like. Have seen a few with FM heels on (clearly changed when got to mall) and lots eye contact.

But as SA said be careful. Look, learn and watch don't just rush in as you may get your backside fried[/QUOTE]WR,

There is a morality policy that has been adopted by most of the schools in Cebu. If a filipina is seen by a school official wearing her school uniform while in the company of a foreigner who is not a blood or family relation. The filipina faces being expelled from school and might not be allowed to graduate. Some semi-pro former students have started to wear old uniforms around because they know it brings them more pesos from horny foreigners.

This is the same morality policy that got a few Cebu students into trouble for posting bikini and smoking pics on FB last year.

[QUOTE=Azil; 1394027]Your experience there seems different than mine, SA. I'm in there a lot, either to eat occasionally at the food court or to do grocery shopping in the supermarket, and I don't recall seeing anything. Pro or semi-pro. Just lots of eye-candy (damn, I love those schoolgirls in uniforms!).

Perhaps I'm just missing things. I'll take your word for it that there are possibilities there. I generally rely on getting The Look, but I've never received that sort of eye contact there.

Outside, near the pedestrian overpass and the corner of F. Ramos is another story, of course.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing you're a new arrival (within the last 8months) to Cebu. Yes my experience differs greatly from yours because you are new to Cebu and I am not. On the Cebu [b]General Reports[/b] Thread someone mentioned semi-pro street meat over on Junquera, and you replied "Where on Junquera?", so that tells me you know little to nothing about Cebu. Everyone knows about Junquera, and I'm not putting you down just calling it the way it is.

So just to recap. There's semi-pro action available at Robonsons fuente. Look downstairs around the food court or on the upper levels. Alot of the semi-pros will not walk right up to you and announce in front of all the other locals they are for sale, but the action is there. It's just not so in-your-face as it was previously. Gessuuss DS has been posting about (and enjoying) the semi-pros he pulls from Robinsons for over a decade. I think you can't see the forest through the trees.

In the good ol' days guys would gather at Bo's coffee and the filipinas would circle. Back then there were fewer foreigners in Cebu and most of the locals could care less what happened. There used to be a alot of semi-pro filipinas that would work Robinsons both inside and out and the quality was ten times better IMO. The corner of Ramos and Mango used to be a big spot for pickup girls, not anymore. Things have changed.

It seems Robinsons is trying to clean up it's image. Locals have known for years that the mall and in particular Bo's coffee was the place to see filipinas go with imported guys in exchange for pesos. Now Robinsons has changed the planter boxes on the corner of Mango-Ramos from a flat granite top (where the pimps, viagra touts, street kids and semi-pros used to sit and offer services to passing foreigners. The new granite is peaked to prevent 'stand-by'. The mall has also stationed a new guard that walks between the employee entrance over to the fruit stall on Ramos. He is there to make sure everyone who is hanging around leaves the area. Notice the locals who sell puppies have moved from the Ramos side of the walk-over to the other side? The guy with the peanut cart is gone too. Now you know the reason why.

Also the guard stationed inside Robinsons department store on the first level (between Bo's and Cafe de Paris) has been moved from inside the store to 20ft outside the door in the main portion of the mall. His job now is to watch shoppers who exit the store and to watch out for semi-pro and locals inside the mall who are not there to shop. Subtle changes indeed but it has forced the action away from Bo's. Yet whenever I walk past Bo's I shake my head at the half dozen or so desperate looking sexpats who continue to sit there and cast a line into an empty pond. I have seen the same guy with the same worried and sexually frustrated look for the past couple of months. He has balding jet black frizzy hair down in kind-of a mullet. He has thick black beard growth, dark eyes, no tan and always wears the same clothes. Black sneakers, black socks, black cargo shorts and a black t-shirt. The only thing that changes is the t-shirt. He hangs at both Cybergate and Fuente malls. Is that you Azil?

Couple those factors with the stigma that's been attached to being seen at Bo's coffee inside Robinsons fuente and you know why the action has moved away from that spot. Geessus if you can't spot the semi-pros around the food court stop at the first table behind the lechon baboy store and infront of the grocery. Ask the old time expats to show you the semi-pros. After the laughter stops (5-10mins) they will be happy to point out the filipinas or call one over for you.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1394251]WR,

There is a morality policy that has been adopted by most of the schools in Cebu. If a filipina is seen by a school official wearing her school uniform while in the company of a foreigner who is not a blood or family relation. The filipina faces being expelled from school and might not be allowed to graduate. Some semi-pro former students have started to wear old uniforms around because they know it brings them more pesos from horny foreigners.

This is the same morality policy that got a few Cebu students into trouble for posting bikini and smoking pics on FB last year.[/QUOTE]I know about this SA and I reckon it has always been there. The farcial fuss over the bikini pictures on the girls Facebook is a good example of the world going mad (well the Philippines and some crazy Catholic faulty) and I think the parents won the court case as wel.

There was another more recent 'scandal' with a USJR student taking a sex video with her then boyfriend and this being posted. She is also still at school and it made the headlines locally plus all the Facebook chatter. Pathetic from our viewpoint (well mine)

My Cebu hottie is still at school so tells me all the stories and she is more of a rebel and will walk with me and wear the uniform (and she wears it for other reasons LOL).

But while the morality police don't want the girls to be seen in uniform with us naughty white boys it does nothing about the pinoys who hang outside most colleges and pick up girls for tutition fees on a regular basis. Happens all the time but the school authorities won't act as they all know we are the ones who corrupt their students not the pinoys LOL

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1394.

My Cebu hottie is still at school so tells me all the stories and she is more of a rebel and will walk with me and wear the uniform (and she wears it for other reasons LOL).

But while the morality police don't want the girls to be seen in uniform with us naughty white boys it does nothing about the pinoys who hang outside most colleges and pick up girls for tutition fees on a regular basis. Happens all the time but the school authorities won't act as they all know we are the ones who corrupt their students not the pinoys LOL[/QUOTE]Used to love when my 18 year old would arrive in my place, put on her uniform, and her 6 inch heels and then say " whats todays lesson Prof ". These lovely young ladies know the effect their schoolies have on us.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1394120]Hu, that's about every 'newb' mistake one can make. In the same vein, recently a gent wrote on the AC thread, saying he had walked the streets for hours each day and night, looking for fresh GFE. He stated he was uninterested in 'pro's. AC is not that kind of place, the snatch is mostly in the bars (pros). He, and Hu, have apparently went to Phils without spending a lot of time reading the Phils boards. In defense of Hu, the Cebu thread has been bare lately; not a lot of reports.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the lessons guys, I admit I'm a total newb in Phil's and was just guessing on the skin color thing from my observations that day. Was just intrigued by this mall thing and wanted some adventure for the day (which I got so shouldn't complain) and to prove that things do happen at Alaya. If I'm ever in the same situation again I will take your advice and do a interview prior to leaving the mall. I didn't say anywhere that I wasn't looking for a pro. I can see your point that she wants to "get you off and get your cash as quick as possible" I guess in the past I have just been lucky in other countries where they have quite often stuck around longer than they needed to and performed a much better service without the need for me to specify what is required beforehand. I did most of the mongering in my 20's so maybe that has something to do with it!

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1394282]A long string of insults.[/QUOTE]I disagreed with you. I'm sorry I haven't seen the pros / semipros there. I don't see why a simple disagreement is worthy of the sort of crap you posted.

[QUOTE=Azil;1394848]I disagreed with you. I'm sorry I haven't seen the pros / semipros there. I don't see why a simple disagreement is worthy of the sort of crap you posted.[/QUOTE]You basically posted that since you did not see any kind of semi-pro action inside Robinson fuente, that I was mistaken. I took offense to your bola assertion that since you visit alot you knew the down low. Clearly you do not. I simply pointed out where to find the available filipinas, and why the action had moved.

Welcome to the NFL playa'. <insert big grin smiley

Has any one had taken a girl with them as a travelling companion from Cebu airport on an international flight , was wondering if it is the same problems as is encountered at Manila, thanks for any advice

[QUOTE=Col Law;1410530]Has any one had taken a girl with them as a travelling companion from Cebu airport on an international flight , was wondering if it is the same problems as is encountered at Manila, thanks for any advice[/QUOTE]Yes CL many times.

Similar but IMHO opinion the officials are not as anal as in Manila or Clark (which am advised is really bad). Singapore tends to be the one more questions are asked and you maybe asked to sign an affadavit tos ay she will return etc (even a married white guy with kids had to do this!) but that is nothing much so just sign and move on.

Some mongers going overseas have an affdavit ready to show (ONLY if asked) saying he will pay all costs associated with the vacation and bring the cutie back.

I would always chose Cebu over other airports for international travel but the the drawback is the limited number of destinations that the budget airlines fly to.

Email me for more details but the destination has some influence (Singpaore harder IMHO, HK much easier) but am sure others will / may have a contrary opinion

Thanks for the PM but can't reply as your box too full, check your email also for my reply

The subject of the PM is now local news BTW

WR,

Ok cleaned out the inbox some. PM me.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1412254]Thanks for the PM but can't reply as your box too full, check your email also for my reply.

The subject of the PM is now local news BTW[/QUOTE]No reason to be bashful and withhold information as it is public record and pertinent to this board:

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/392839/nbi-agents-nab-aussie-rescue-15-women-girls[/url]

More feminazi parasite NGO B.S.. Bill Gates should be ashamed that he is funding the poorly named "International "Justice" Mission" which is behind all these scandals. Just trying to keep the money coming in so they can continue to ride around in their 4WD vehicles, eat at top restaurants and live the 5 star lifestyle. As all here should know, the cyber-sex, porn webpage, trafficking charges are ridiculous. He booted a few of the girls after they ripped him off and this is the result. A good lesson regarding the extent to which "Pinoy Pride" can have nefarious consequences. W. R. and others of us who saw the papers today decided not to mention anything, since after all its a load of NGO crap as usual (like the infamous "nude wrestling minors" bust). But unfortunately it will take a long time for things to get cleared up and in the meantime he'll be in jail. This is what comes from giving a bunch of poor girls a job at 10, 000 a month (doing online book keeping entries) plus paying for their schooling. As anyone who met the girls knows, they were not available to anyone for anything. If he was enjoying their company that was between him and the girls. I'm sure the IJM will now pay the monthly wages that the girls will no longer be receiving as well as the cost of their schooling. Fat chance!

[QUOTE=Buko Max; 1412430]No reason to be bashful and withhold information as it is public record and pertinent to this board:

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/392839/nbi-agents-nab-aussie-rescue-15-women-girls[/url][/QUOTE]Its not like most of the people can't connect the dots and figure out who it is.

[QUOTE=David_33;1412436]Just trying to keep the money coming in so they can continue to ride around in their 4WD vehicles, eat at top restaurants and live the 5 star lifestyle.[/QUOTE]They like to lead a lead free lifestyle as well, I presume, as they seem to focus, with surgical precsion, on softer targets like Aussie accountants. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they yet have to raid their very first pinoy-run casa?

[QUOTE=Buko Max; 1412430]No reason to be bashful and withhold information as it is public record and pertinent to this board:

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/392839/nbi-agents-nab-aussie-rescue-15-women-girls[/url][/QUOTE]The person arrested was until fairly recently a former high profile Cebu poster of ISG. I have detailed info about this person, but not going to discuss on a public forum. I feel sorry for him, but did not approve of his activities, just the same. He was too reckless to survive, too reckless. Liked a high profile. Dynamite when your doing what he does, grey area, especially in a foreign country, in this case Philippines. Sad, cause he didn't have to go about it the way he did. Over confident, boastful type. Low profile is the best profile, when in foreign countries.

Long term established ISG members, who I am familiar with, can PM me. Maybe I will offer more info to them, not sure. Others, no way Jose. No reply to your PM and you know I am not willing to divulge any more info on the individual concerned.

[QUOTE=Pute Nut;1412627]they yet have to raid their very first pinoy-run casa?[/QUOTE]Very astute observation.

By the way, another forum member just PMd me with a link to a porn site supposed to have been run by the person in question. It is blocked in the Philippines. So I may be wrong as far as the guy not having anything to do with pics for pay. I had visited his place about half a year ago and also met with him a couple of times for a bite to eat in my hotel. He never mentioned the porn site and only spoke about his social media marketing project and online bookkeeping work.

Here's full report.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2013/04/18/cybersex-apartments-cebu-raided-278112[/url]

It's official:

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/394167/aussie-faces-trafficking-child-pornography-charges[/url]


[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1412645]The person arrested was until fairly recently a former high profile Cebu poster of ISG.[/QUOTE]

Yes I realized that and was trying to get members here to put two and two together without naming him directly!

"a porn site supposed to have been run by the person in question". I remember someone previously pointed out that one of his girls had appeared on a porn site before and attached a picture of the girl sitting in a jacuzzi. He later said that yes, she had previously modeled in a porn site. I wonder if it was his own site?

[QUOTE=Imagemakers;1415251]"a porn site supposed to have been run by the person in question". I remember someone previously pointed out that one of his girls had appeared on a porn site before and attached a picture of the girl sitting in a jacuzzi. He later said that yes, she had previously modeled in a porn site. I wonder if it was his own site?[/QUOTE]Not according to him. Supposed to have happened before he met her.

[QUOTE=Imagemakers;1415251]"a porn site supposed to have been run by the person in question". I remember someone previously pointed out that one of his girls had appeared on a porn site before and attached a picture of the girl sitting in a jacuzzi. He later said that yes, she had previously modeled in a porn site. I wonder if it was his own site?[/QUOTE]The sad part about all this is that there is a certain barangay in Taguig Metro Manila where there are many many many "sex dens" where lewd shows for paying customers happens all day every day. Nothing to seems to happens about shutting them down. The fair maidens of course would never do such a dastatdly thing as showing their intimate parts unless a big bad foreigner coerced them to do so. More hypocracy in the Philippines. I mean, more fun.

My next PI trip is quickly approaching. Usually I fly with a full arsenal of adult toys, massage oils, etc, but this time I am thinking of traveling light and buying local. Anybody know of any adult stores in Cebu where I can purchase some decent equipment?

[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1426914]My next PI trip is quickly approaching. Usually I fly with a full arsenal of adult toys, massage oils, etc, but this time I am thinking of traveling light and buying local. Anybody know of any adult stores in Cebu where I can purchase some decent equipment?[/QUOTE]While I love the toys for the cuties I bring mine in if I can or I get in Manila I'm as there are a few shops. But these are so expensive. Saw a rabbit vibe for 12000 pesos! These cost nothing in other places so I would recommend you bring in to save cost unless you really want to save weight and the bags.

But someone else may know better than me as I have asked around and found very little and what there was hugely overprices. I do tend to know vibe etc prices elsewhere for some reason LOL

Sup guys,

Was wondering if someone could tell me about some clubs with young and / or University girls. Also, anyone know of any clubs around town or on the outside of Cebu with mostly Province girls?

Thanks

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1429432]Sup guys,

Was wondering if someone could tell me about some clubs with young and / or University girls. Also, anyone know of any clubs around town or on the outside of Cebu with mostly Province girls?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Plenty of information in the thread if you read it, mentioned many times, same goes for your comment on the hotels. Even a google search can find some answers so why not try that.

Am sure the next FR will be "where can I find hot chicas and can I have their numbers please"

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1429654]Plenty of information in the thread if you read it, mentioned many times, same goes for your comment on the hotels. Even a google search can find some answers so why not try that.

Am sure the next FR will be "where can I find hot chicas and can I have their numbers please"[/QUOTE]About the only places I see mentioned are Mango Square and girlie bars. I am not talking about that.

Will go back and double check (there certainly won't be plenty info on what I asked about as it is not common for people on this forum to go to them)