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[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2566061]Anyone has any idea about the "going rate" for the SeekingArrangement dates in CO, Bogota, Medellin? I have done an "arrangement" from Badoo once in Brazil where I had a perfect arrangement for 24 hours and she picked me up from the airport. It was quite hot actually. For the 24 hours I paid 1000 BRL, which was about US $ 400 at the time, and the value of about 4 hours of a regular escort. Some said I paid too much, but I don't think so since I had 24 hours of fun with emotional connection and that blind date that was agreed on. I told her: when we meet I see you at the airport and the first thing we do is kiss passionately even before I'll hear your voice for the first time. It was tickling.

Anyway, now I am trying to come up with a reasonable proposal to those SA girls. If I take the same calculation, I would say 250,000 COP x 4 = 1,000,000 COP for 24 hours.

But if I don't even want 24 hours it gets more interesting. 500,000 COP for the night? Would that seem too cheap?

I checked average monthly income in CO is under 450 USD, so 3 such nights and she'd have that average monthly income.

Should we negotiate lower than the rate of the straight up working girl? In this case we'll meet up for coffee just to be sure that there will be some chemistry..[/QUOTE]SS,

Do not mention a price and try to meet them for a drink first. Second, I would start at 200,000 for an 8 or less. 300,000 for a 9 or 10. You send out 100 messages and I bet you will get 30 responses. Do not commit to first one. Play the field until you find one you like. 500,000 is too much. A girl has to be a 10 in bed and in looks to pay much that.

Do not worry too much about hotels. I am not sure where you are staying but hotels usually get girls ID. I have never had an issue with girl in room. Only issue is hotel charging guest fees, but that is more a Medellin problem than Bogota problem.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2566061]Anyone has any idea about the "going rate" for the SeekingArrangement dates in CO, Bogota, Medellin? I have done an "arrangement" from Badoo once in Brazil where I had a perfect arrangement for 24 hours and she picked me up from the airport. It was quite hot actually. For the 24 hours I paid 1000 BRL, which was about US $ 400 at the time, and the value of about 4 hours of a regular escort. Some said I paid too much, but I don't think so since I had 24 hours of fun with emotional connection and that blind date that was agreed on. I told her: when we meet I see you at the airport and the first thing we do is kiss passionately even before I'll hear your voice for the first time. It was tickling.

Anyway, now I am trying to come up with a reasonable proposal to those SA girls. If I take the same calculation, I would say 250,000 COP x 4 = 1,000,000 COP for 24 hours.

But if I don't even want 24 hours it gets more interesting. 500,000 COP for the night? Would that seem too cheap?

I checked average monthly income in CO is under 450 USD, so 3 such nights and she'd have that average monthly income.

Should we negotiate lower than the rate of the straight up working girl? In this case we'll meet up for coffee just to be sure that there will be some chemistry.

And finally, any advice on safety? I have some concerns with the specific information we give about ourselves on the site, we might be subject to some serious robbery rip-offs. Taking the girl to my apart-hotel? I know the theory is better not, but I am looking for experienced advice, not textbook.[/QUOTE]$400 usd is stupid money for Colombia. Ctg. Will be more expensive than the other cities but I think you over thinking this. It's not Walmart with a set price. Generally speaking, if you are dealing with a true SA girl and not a prepago, of which there are many on Seeking, it will be less. I haven't used SA for a few years now but I usually paid around 200 cop + taxi with no time limit. Most true SA girls will like to go to dinner and make a evening out of it if you want, With the hard core prepagos it will be more like a business transaction and more expensive. There is a LOT of desperation and poverty right now in Colombia so negotiate accordingly. But don't be a dick. Many women and families are hurting right now and I do tip more in my hotel and restaurants because a few extra pesos is no skin off my back but could mean the difference to a mom or family buying food. Use you best judgement. Have a great trip and be careful, Colombia is very dangerous right now.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2566083]Do not mention a price and try to meet them for a drink first.
Second, I would start at 200,000 for an 8 or less. 300,000 for a 9 or 10.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2566122]$400 usd is stupid money for Colombia.
Ctg. Will be more expensive than the other cities
Generally speaking, if you are dealing with a true SA girl and not a prepago, of which there are many on Seeking, it will be less.
I haven't used SA for a few years now but I usually paid around 200 cop + taxi with no time limit.
Most true SA girls will like to go to dinner and make a evening out of it if you want,
With the hard core prepagos it will be more like a business transaction and more expensive.
[/QUOTE]Awesome, thanks for sharing what you learned.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2566122]There is a LOT of desperation and poverty right now in Colombia so negotiate accordingly. But don't be a dick. Many women and families are hurting right now and I do tip more in my hotel and restaurants because a few extra pesos is no skin off my back but could mean the difference to a mom or family buying food. Use you best judgement. Have a great trip and be careful, Colombia is very dangerous right now.[/QUOTE]Yes, now how is Colombia very dangerous now? You mean because of that political stuff that's going on on the streets? Or is there big increase in crime?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2566083]Do not worry too much about hotels. I am not sure where you are staying but hotels usually get girls ID. I have never had an issue with girl in room. Only issue is hotel charging guest fees, but that is more a Medellin problem than Bogota problem.[/QUOTE]I was thinking to stay in a suite apartment which is possibly more like AirBnB than a hotel. So I don't know if they have a front desk thing.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2566083]You send out 100 messages and I bet you will get 30 responses. Do not commit to first one. Play the field until you find one you like. 500,000 is too much. A girl has to be a 10 in bed and in looks to pay much that.[/QUOTE]Oh, I am being inundated with those who favorited me. It's actually quite amazing. A little too good to be true. I can really understand now what so many girls are going through on normal dating sites. Lots of stuff coming in, makes it almost hard to manage.

And strange things of one I had a decent chat with and we were all "hasta luego baby" and the next day that profile was gone altogether (or blocked me?) so that made me think that perhaps there are many fake profiles there. Like I said, I don't feel comfortable to be pressured to give my wealth and income numbers, but you can't even opt out of it.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2566361]Awesome, thanks for sharing what you learned.

Yes, now how is Colombia very dangerous now? You mean because of that political stuff that's going on on the streets? Or is there big increase in crime?

I was thinking to stay in a suite apartment which is possibly more like AirBnB than a hotel. So I don't know if they have a front desk thing.

Oh, I am being inundated with those who favorited me. It's actually quite amazing. A little too good to be true. I can really understand now what so many girls are going through on normal dating sites. Lots of stuff coming in, makes it almost hard to manage.

And strange things of one I had a decent chat with and we were all "hasta luego baby" and the next day that profile was gone altogether (or blocked me?) so that made me think that perhaps there are many fake profiles there. Like I said, I don't feel comfortable to be pressured to give my wealth and income numbers, but you can't even opt out of it.[/QUOTE]"hasta luego baby" and the next day that profile was gone altogether (or blocked me?

It's fairly common on SA, you will also see them in one city today and far away the next day. Lot's of fishing and scamming on SA. However there are some good ones.

Danger: I have seen Bogota get very dangerous over the years. It's a big city, like 9 million more or less right now, so every big city has their crime element. Bogota and most of the cities in Colombia in my option is like the perfect storm. Once the Pablo Escobar era came to an end Colombia enjoyed a renaissance of sorts, and tourism took off. There has always been poverty because of, for the most part, no middle class. Now it's a whole new ball game. Covid destroyed all the jobs for the working class, drugs and and the influx of millions of destitute Venezuelans looking for jobs and easy prey has made for a very dangerous time in Bogota. The riots are not protests. It is the left, FARC, ELN and the militant left using this opportunity to do what the have always promised to do for decades, overthrow the current system of government, they don't want calm so until the government comes down hard on them the "protests' will continue. The north is relatively safe, the further you go south the more dangerous it becomes. But it can happen anywhere in a flash. NEVER wear or bring expensive watches etc to Colombian. There is way too much to warn you about but if you pm me I can tell you more. All that being said I love Colombia, the people and the WOMEN jaja. Be careful, have a good time.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2566361]And strange things of one I had a decent chat with and we were all "hasta luego baby" and the next day that profile was gone altogether (or blocked me?) so that made me think that perhaps there are many fake profiles there. [/QUOTE]Not fake at all. You know how many chicks I have known in real life that have done the same thing? Just a couple of weeks ago this chick that I used to mess with in Cali hit me up from a new number saying she had moved to Medellin and is now working at a call center. I have met her mom and sister. Like 2 days later she disappeared.

I was talking to a chick in Dominican Republic. One night we said bye and the next day no more messages from her. Call the regular landline no answer. Next time I was in Santo Domingo I drove across town to the salon she owns to see what happened and it was closed. Just disappeared into thin air. The list goes on.

I have no idea what happens to these women, but I know shit will happen. That is why I always recommend not having all your eggs in one basket and having at least 3 backups. One guy in the Dominican Republic thread found out the hard way the other day when he was ghosted without backups.

[QUOTE=JHS42;2563943]I tried a couple girls on Dominican Cupid and got stood up twice so hate to leave without sampling the local flavor. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JHS42;2563945]Yeah, I was worried about having too many so I was conservativeyou guys even warned me. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]

How about organizing a "house party"? Let's say get together with 3 colleagues here and rent a nice place with 3 bedrooms. Then gather 3 to 6 semi pro chicas. Have everyone STD tested and verify the chicas are on birth control (ideally by injection), bring all supplies and then have fun for a week or however long. We might even get some filming equipment and be like a film crew. That might make these girls even more enthusiastic. Should be no problem to find local talent, or, depending on the venue, even bring some Venezolanas. Not easy to travel to VE, but I hear it's not too difficult for them to travel out of VE. This could be done in a nice place like San Andre. Now leaving the scope of CO, but continuing the thought, in the Dominica Republic (VE to DR travel is easy). If Trinidad & Tobago was open it could be done there.

I don't know anyone here personally and I would not do this with just everyone. There needs to be some trust, for example, that none of the people get all drunk or argumentative or otherwise batshit crazy. There would have to be a certain gentleman's agreement and some rules. And we'd have to meet and get to know each other in person first. And as for in person, that's the downside with importing unknown girls from VE, but perhaps one could audition them over a video chat.

Since I am planning to be in CO for a longer period, I am thinking seriously about it. The benefit of a longer term arrangement is that it is way more relaxing and one can have variety and plenty and the costs of the nice villa or penthouse apartment can be shared. This STD testing plus a few days quarantine would have the benefit that one could do the bareback, which is so much nicer.

Thinking some more, I would be very interested to do this with guys who, like me, are digital nomads, and would, besides the playing, also like to get some work in. It's been always my special dream to do the digital work while a chica hangs out in my lap or gives me a massage. Or lazy at the pool.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2566720]How about organizing a "house party"? Let's say get together with 3 colleagues here and rent a nice place with 3 bedrooms. Then gather 3 to 6 semi pro chicas. Have everyone STD tested and verify the chicas are on birth control (ideally by injection), bring all supplies and then have fun for a week or however long. We might even get some filming equipment and be like a film crew. That might make these girls even more enthusiastic. [/QUOTE]Sounds like you are trying to take the road to disaster.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2566725]Sounds like you are trying to take the road to disaster.[/QUOTE]Tell me more, I'm all ears.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2566725]Sounds like you are trying to take the road to disaster.[/QUOTE]At least he'll be able to use the carpool lane.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2566733]Tell me more, I'm all ears.[/QUOTE]Let's start with getting 3 guys together. I've met some great guys from ISG, guys who I enjoy hanging out with, guys who have become good friends, but spending 24/7 with them might be stretching things a bit. It would probably be okay for a couple of days, with the right guys, but then it starts to get difficult. One guy might be a bit messy. One might keep a much different schedule. Have you ever tried to sleep, when you're completely exhausted and someone is having loud, noisy sex 15 feet away? That's without getting into the issues when 2 guys both want the same girl.

Then there are the girls. You're unlikely to find semi pros in Colombia who will be excited about spending several days with strangers who want to take video of everything. The ones who might get excited about that are already doing webcam work. You're also going to run into problems finding girls who will all be up for being passed around. Not to mention throwing 3 to 6 strangers together and expecting them all to get along.

Of course, one of the biggest risks is when the girls decide to rob you. You and whoever else are likely to wake up and realize everything is gone, possibly including the TV's in your rental house. With 6 girls you can't watch them all, all the time.

There's more. Venezuelans? Colombia is already full of them. No need to import or export them from Venezuela. I assume you think you can get them cheaper, but by the time you pay roundtrip airfare, plus the time spent just finding them, you're spending more and getting complete unknown girls. How do you convince them to fly somewhere to meet up with complete strangers? Most likely by paying in advance, and after they have the money, why get on a plane?

I could easily find another 100 areas where problems could crop up, but I can't find any benefits to make it worth the risks. If I want 2 or 3 girls, for 2 or 3 days, I can easily arrange it. If I want to spend time with other mongers, easily done. If I want to take video, still easy. If I want something fancier than where I'm staying, Motel Ibiza is always there. I can have my fun and not have to deal with roommates while I'm having it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2566725]Sounds like you are trying to take the road to disaster.[/QUOTE]LMAO Hey Squid, are you trying to be High Heffner? This is funny. Sounds like you want to have a Festa, I've had a few in Brazil that were great but not my first trip to Brazil. Best you walk before you run. Don't over pack or plan for your first trip. Find one or two girls you really like. Do a repeat if you like being with them, if they are really cool. Find a few restaurants you like and bring a few outfits and toys for the girls and have fun.

IMHO I would never invite 3 or 4 complete strange women I never met before to my place for a week. The best parties come together spontaneously, when the right people met it can happen, but don't force anything. Many times when I met a strange chic for the first time I broom them before I even kiss them and almost always after I shoot my load. I can't imagine the train wreck that could ensue having 5 or 6 strangers roaming around my apartment unchecked. Remember Squid your not in Kansas anymore.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2566733]Tell me more, I'm all ears.[/QUOTE]You are making it too complicated. I think there is a simple solution. You can stay at Mansion.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2566720]How about organizing a "house party"? Let's say get together with 3 colleagues here and rent a nice place with 3 bedrooms. Then gather 3 to 6 semi pro chicas. Have everyone STD tested and verify the chicas are on birth control (ideally by injection), bring all supplies and then have fun for a week or however long. We might even get some filming equipment and be like a film crew. That might make these girls even more enthusiastic. Should be no problem to find local talent, or, depending on the venue, even bring some Venezolanas. Not easy to travel to VE, but I hear it's not too difficult for them to travel out of VE. This could be done in a nice place like San Andre. Now leaving the scope of CO, but continuing the thought, in the Dominica Republic (VE to DR travel is easy). If Trinidad & Tobago was open it could be done there.

I don't know anyone here personally and I would not do this with just everyone. There needs to be some trust, for example, that none of the people get all drunk or argumentative or otherwise batshit crazy. There would have to be a certain gentleman's agreement and some rules. And we'd have to meet and get to know each other in person first. And as for in person, that's the downside with importing unknown girls from VE, but perhaps one could audition them over a video chat.

Since I am planning to be in CO for a longer period, I am thinking seriously about it. The benefit of a longer term arrangement is that it is way more relaxing and one can have variety and plenty and the costs of the nice villa or penthouse apartment can be shared. This STD testing plus a few days quarantine would have the benefit that one could do the bareback, which is so much nicer.

Thinking some more, I would be very interested to do this with guys who, like me, are digital nomads, and would, besides the playing, also like to get some work in. It's been always my special dream to do the digital work while a chica hangs out in my lap or gives me a massage. Or lazy at the pool.[/QUOTE]Clear case of human trafficking LOL. Esp. With the situation now in VE.

Seriously?

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2566720]How about organizing a "house party"? Let's say get together with 3 colleagues here and rent a nice place with 3 bedrooms. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2566725]Sounds like you are trying to take the road to disaster.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2566801]. The best parties come together spontaneously, when the right people met it can happen, but don't force anything. Many times when I met a strange chic for the first time I broom them before I even kiss them and almost always after I shoot my load. I can't imagine the train wreck that could ensue having 5 or 6 strangers roaming around my apartment unchecked. Remember Squid your not in Kansas anymore.[/QUOTE]If you are talking about getting some of your friends or coworkers together and heading down to Medellin then fine, this has been done several times that I have heard of and they had a great time.

But if you are talking about trying to get some mongers together who never met off of the board and then getting some chicas then there are several things that could go bad and probably will. The mongers themselves may not get along, some things that I have heard about include some monger may get jealous because another monger is into the chica that you are with, some monger may get it in their head that they are over paying for something, be it the accomidation becuase their room is smaller or the party supplies because they only drank 5 beers etc etc,. Then there is that awful chance that you get bad blood going on between the chicas, and these are Colombianas. Passionate Colombianas and so they may figuratively speaking stink the whole place up because they are jealous of some other chica.

Prostitution is legal in Colombia, but there are some vaguely stated laws about "promoting prostitution " so there is an outside chance of the police getting wind and that might be a problem. Granted I would think that was very much an outside chance.

There are gringo parties where lots of chicas show up, I know because chicas have told me about them. I have not seen any postings from a particular Board Member who was living in Medellin and was posting regular a while back but he shared links from Facebook showing "Finca" party (s)? With many chicas and many gringos. That may also have been as far out from Medellin as Guatap. Fincas being places out in the country like a farm. This is probably also an attractive type of spot because most Airbnb places will explicitly state "no parties".

I was talking to a couple of particularly hot chicas once who made me an offer that both of them would spend all night with me if I would throw a Finca party for their friends 18th birthday. I was not going to throw a party for a bunch of barely of age people, no sir. Too much could go wrong.

Make a few trips to Colombia, learn which chicas party together and get along. See if any board members are interested in meeting up for a drink and see if you get along etc, In other words have a network of people that you have gotten to know and feel would vibe well together. Then start talking about a party.

Thanks for setting my head straight. All good points indeed.

A case for a different choice.

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[QUOTE=Nounce;2566841]You are making it too complicated. I think there is a simple solution. You can stay at Mansion.[/QUOTE]Where is the mansion located? Are we talking about Loutron?

I was curious and went over my first old posts in this forum from many years ago. I noticed I had two encounters in Brazil where I ended up paying after the deed. I didn't even remember that. And given that at the time I was quite unexperienced, it surprised me how I even managed to do that! Told me that at the time the customs was still pay afterwards. This seems to be different in Colombia. Once I asked a girl out to indulge me on a long term multi day date, and I offered a price which she accepted. Then I said that of course we needed some contingency if we ended up hating each other's guts after a few minutes or an hour. So I said I'd pay in installments. An up-front for the effort of meeting me, then after some time together another installment, and then a daily installment so that there would always be a way for us to walk away without either one of us feeling cheated. This mirrored the 24 hour setup I had once with a Brazilian pro who I met on Badoo when SA didn't exist yet. It was very well done then, I paid her a piece after she picked me up from the airport, and then again after some good time, and then the rest. But that Colombiana, who totally let me down started arguing that she only works payment upfront, essentially expecting a 24 hour engagement to be paid up front. I said no way, because you already agreed to my scheme. Turns out many don't even pay attention to what you say. That's a bad sign to start with, because nothing that you think was agreed will be remembered.

But my question is: is it really true that Colombia is (now) more or less strictly a pay upfront culture? Or is that just a sign that you are about to be ripped off anyway? Like pay up front and then be annoying so that you end up kicking her out early? Even in Brazil I do not remember that pay afterwards was a thing I had done effortlessly in the past.

In the casas in central areas, its pay up front. But very rarely am I asked by a freelancer to pay upfront. And when I am, as you suspect, it is usually a scene of impending disaster. It seems to me that girls ask for upfront after guy (s) have refused to pay them. And you got to wonder why. In my experience I can suppose that it was bcos they were terrible service and the guy (s) threw them out. I have never had a great experience from paying a freelancer upfront. These days I either cancel immediately, or if I really fancy her I try to make a deal of x% upfront, balance paid afterwards. That kinda works bcos then you can still kick her if she is useless, but you have already given her enough for her troubles.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2567348]I was curious and went over my first old posts in this forum from many years ago. I noticed I had two encounters in Brazil where I ended up paying after the deed. I didn't even remember that. And given that at the time I was quite unexperienced, it surprised me how I even managed to do that! Told me that at the time the customs was still pay afterwards. This seems to be different in Colombia.

But my question is: is it really true that Colombia is (now) more or less strictly a pay upfront culture? Or is that just a sign that you are about to be ripped off anyway? Like pay up front and then be annoying so that you end up kicking her out early? Even in Brazil I do not remember that pay afterwards was a thing I had done effortlessly in the past.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2567348]I was curious and went over my first old posts in this forum from many years ago. I noticed I had two encounters in Brazil where I ended up paying after the deed. I didn't even remember that. And given that at the time I was quite unexperienced, it surprised me how I even managed to do that! Told me that at the time the customs was still pay afterwards. This seems to be different in Colombia. Once I asked a girl out to indulge me on a long term multi day date, and I offered a price which she accepted. Then I said that of course we needed some contingency if we ended up hating each other's guts after a few minutes or an hour. So I said I'd pay in installments. An up-front for the effort of meeting me, then after some time together another installment, and then a daily installment so that there would always be a way for us to walk away without either one of us feeling cheated. This mirrored the 24 hour setup I had once with a Brazilian pro who I met on Badoo when SA didn't exist yet. It was very well done then, I paid her a piece after she picked me up from the airport, and then again after some good time, and then the rest. But that Colombiana, who totally let me down started arguing that she only works payment upfront, essentially expecting a 24 hour engagement to be paid up front. I said no way, because you already agreed to my scheme. Turns out many don't even pay attention to what you say. That's a bad sign to start with, because nothing that you think was agreed will be remembered.

But my question is: is it really true that Colombia is (now) more or less strictly a pay upfront culture? Or is that just a sign that you are about to be ripped off anyway? Like pay up front and then be annoying so that you end up kicking her out early? Even in Brazil I do not remember that pay afterwards was a thing I had done effortlessly in the past.[/QUOTE]Except for most casas and strip clubs, payment is after. I don't recall any situation I've run into where I've had any issues with paying afterwards. In Spanish, siempre pago despues. I always pay after.

New Life casa, unless it's changed, you pay after, depending on the time you spent. Energy Spa I've been asked to pay before and I've been asked to pay after. Not sure what the standard is there.

I've found that when you're having trouble reaching an agreement with a girl the phrase "tal vez un otro día", maybe some other day, works well. It allows her to either accept what you're offering or walk away with no bad feelings. You can toss in "esta bien", it's okay, with it.

The last thing I want to do is get into an argument over payment, services or anything else. There's really nothing to be gained and you're wasting time that could be used to find someone who you can deal with. And often, once the girl realizes you've made your offer and are ready to walk, she'll come around.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2567348]I was curious and went over my first old posts in this forum from many years ago. I noticed I had two encounters in Brazil where I ended up paying after the deed. I didn't even remember that. And given that at the time I was quite unexperienced, it surprised me how I even managed to do that! Told me that at the time the customs was still pay afterwards. This seems to be different in Colombia. Once I asked a girl out to indulge me on a long term multi day date, and I offered a price which she accepted. Then I said that of course we needed some contingency if we ended up hating each other's guts after a few minutes or an hour. So I said I'd pay in installments. An up-front for the effort of meeting me, then after some time together another installment, and then a daily installment so that there would always be a way for us to walk away without either one of us feeling cheated. This mirrored the 24 hour setup I had once with a Brazilian pro who I met on Badoo when SA didn't exist yet. It was very well done then, I paid her a piece after she picked me up from the airport, and then again after some good time, and then the rest. But that Colombiana, who totally let me down started arguing that she only works payment upfront, essentially expecting a 24 hour engagement to be paid up front. I said no way, because you already agreed to my scheme. Turns out many don't even pay attention to what you say. That's a bad sign to start with, because nothing that you think was agreed will be remembered..[/QUOTE]I've had a few experiences with this and I would never pay up front again. , yours may be different than mine but I've had enough to dissuade me from doing so again. Every mistake I've made prepared me for the next chica.

I only pay after, and if they demand money upfront I just give them 20 K pesos max for taxi and tell them to leave.

My first experience was in DR where she demanded payment up front. She looked super hot, we were already in the apartment drinking so I didn't mind. When we got to the bedroom she demanded the money before she got undressed. She kept saying "dinero first pappi, dinero first".

Ok. I pay. She get undressed and starts BB Chupa, her teeth is scraping all up and down my joint so I stop her. I tell her perito, grab my condom and the smell that came from her box was out of this world. I tell her go tot he bathroom to wash up. She comes back, it still smells bad. But she already got my money and can't suck good. I told her this is my first leche off the plane and I want it to be good, took a loss, told her to leave.

Colombia. A week before I flew I matched with this chick on Tinder, all her pictures looked hot and we been talking almost daily on whatsapp. Then the day before I'm supposed to land I'm unmatched from Tinder and her profile photo disappeared from whatsapp and she's not responding to any of me messages. I head to the clock tower and surely enough I see her there and I approach her, she remembers me and I asked why she blocked me and she says allot of gringos just bullshit to get free pics and never actually come to Colombia. So since she see I'm for real she's sorry and will go with me, I didn't even have to negotiate even though she knew I was American she didn't give me the gringo price. We get back to the apartment, I'm excited, been waiting all week for this, she say pay upfront. Ok I pay, then tell her go shower. She comes out wrapped up in a towel. I go shower come out and all the lights are off, she's on the bed wrapped in the towel and under the covers. WTF!? So I turn on the lights pull all the covers off the bed, pull the towel off of her and she had this nasty black and blue mark going down her stomach that looked like a botched surgery and the skin is rottin. After seeing that I couldn't even get hard. So I just went for Chupa until I finished which took her about an hour. Even though I paid for TLN but it wasn't a crazy price I took the loss and told her to leave.

Colombia again. I matched with a girl on tinder again. I message her on whatsapp and she agreed to meet with me but it has to be early morning or late night and she can only do ST. I agreed. First night she shows up, 30 minutes late, I don't care, she's all natural and hot. Sucks me dry BBJCIM I didn't even get to hit but she took all my energy, I pay she leaves. Next day I hit her up she tell me she can't that night but she can see me in an hour. I agreed. She shows up late again, I don't care, I get to hit, its tight she's good, and when I was about to finish she caught all the leche in her mouth. I pay, she leaves. Third day I hit her up for same deal, she says she can't that day but she can the next day. No big deal, I head to the clocktower to get a fresh face, found one and decide to Cafe Del Mar for a few drinks and there she is with a gringo but she didn't see me. So I message her and let her know I see her on the wall in a joking way. She replies back the guy paid her to be with him for the week. So I asked her how were you seeing me then? She said she would just tell him she had an emergency at home and she have to go make sure everything is ok but will be back in an hour or two. So long story short she was with him told him a BS lie then come see me then go back to him. Meanwhile I'm watching him kissing her all in her mouth taking selfies. SMH. Gringo GFE ignorance I suppose. She shows up next day at my place same deal.

Colombia once more. Met this chick at Playa Hollywood. I take her back, she wants payment upfront. Ok I don't mind, I pay. We start out, chupa then I go to hit and her pussy feels like she's been shoving the whole Agulia can up there. I couldn't feel anything, her walls had no grip whatsoever. So I tell her its too loose o back to Chupa. She's saying I have to pay more because she only suck once then sex she don't suck twice. Since I was staying in El Laguito I took the loss and I put her ass out with the quickness walked around the corner and just grabbed another one.

More Colombia. Got a girl out of Space and I was staying in Getsemani. We agreed for a price for ST and walked over to the apartment. She say pay her up front, ok, then she got straight to the point. Everything is finished in 30 minutes. I wash up, I step out the shower, ready to go again, she's already dressed like WTF. She says she have an emergency at home, while she's on the phone talking her driver I hear her tell the Taxi a condo address I previously stayed at in El Lagito. SMH. So wile I was showering some gringo hit her up and told her to come see him, she gives me the excuse to cut my time short so she can go make more money, on top of that she wanted to wait inside the apartment until the taxi showed up out font, I told her "If our business is done then you don't need to be here" and put her ass right out and locked the door.

How serious is this?

[URL]https://youtu.be/WB2isJA1JdU[/URL]

Things are getting back to Almost normal.

Contact Jesus, he will let you know what's going on.

He is in Cali, WhatsApp: 57-323-586-6627.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2570257]How serious is this?

[URL]https://youtu.be/WB2isJA1JdU[/URL][/QUOTE]

Does anyone happen to know the rules if you overstay as a tourist?

Yes, I know there may be a fine, but how much and for how long an overstay? Grcs!

[QUOTE=Nypher;2567441]I've had a few experiences with this and I would never pay up front again. , yours may be different than mine but I've had enough to dissuade me from doing so again. Every mistake I've made prepared me for the next chica.

I only pay after, and if they demand money upfront I just give them 20 K pesos max for taxi and tell them to leave.

My first experience was in DR where she demanded payment up front. She looked super hot, we were already in the apartment drinking so I didn't mind. When we got to the bedroom she demanded the money before she got undressed. She kept saying "dinero first pappi, dinero first".

Ok. I pay. She get undressed and starts BB Chupa, her teeth is scraping all up and down my joint so I stop her. I tell her perito, grab my condom and the smell that came from her box was out of this world. I tell her go tot he bathroom to wash up. She comes back, it still smells bad. But she already got my money and can't suck good. I told her this is my first leche off the plane and I want it to be good, took a loss, told her to leave.

Colombia. A week before I flew I matched with this chick on Tinder, all her pictures looked hot and we been talking almost daily on whatsapp. Then the day before I'm supposed to land I'm unmatched from Tinder and her profile photo disappeared from whatsapp and she's not responding to any of me messages. I head to the clock tower and surely enough I see her there and I approach her, she remembers me and I asked why she blocked me and she says allot of gringos just bullshit to get free pics and never actually come to Colombia. So since she see I'm for real she's sorry and will go with me, I didn't even have to negotiate even though she knew I was American she didn't give me the gringo price. We get back to the apartment, I'm excited, been waiting all week for this, she say pay upfront. Ok I pay, then tell her go shower. She comes out wrapped up in a towel. I go shower come out and all the lights are off, she's on the bed wrapped in the towel and under the covers. WTF!? So I turn on the lights pull all the covers off the bed, pull the towel off of her and she had this nasty black and blue mark going down her stomach that looked like a botched surgery and the skin is rottin. After seeing that I couldn't even get hard. So I just went for Chupa until I finished which took her about an hour. Even though I paid for TLN but it wasn't a crazy price I took the loss and told her to leave.

Colombia again. I matched with a girl on tinder again. I message her on whatsapp and she agreed to meet with me but it has to be early morning or late night and she can only do ST. I agreed. First night she shows up, 30 minutes late, I don't care, she's all natural and hot. Sucks me dry BBJCIM I didn't even get to hit but she took all my energy, I pay she leaves. Next day I hit her up she tell me she can't that night but she can see me in an hour. I agreed. She shows up late again, I don't care, I get to hit, its tight she's good, and when I was about to finish she caught all the leche in her mouth. I pay, she leaves. Third day I hit her up for same deal, she says she can't that day but she can the next day. No big deal, I head to the clocktower to get a fresh face, found one and decide to Cafe Del Mar for a few drinks and there she is with a gringo but she didn't see me. So I message her and let her know I see her on the wall in a joking way. She replies back the guy paid her to be with him for the week. So I asked her how were you seeing me then? She said she would just tell him she had an emergency at home and she have to go make sure everything is ok but will be back in an hour or two. So long story short she was with him told him a BS lie then come see me then go back to him. Meanwhile I'm watching him kissing her all in her mouth taking selfies. SMH. Gringo GFE ignorance I suppose. She shows up next day at my place same deal.[/QUOTE]Is a big no no. I can count on one hand in 30 years of travel, how many times I paid in advance and every time the service sucked. . If they demand payment up front, I broom them. These working girl types are like buses, another on comes along every 5 minutes.

99.9 % of the time the reason they demand you to pay upfront is because the service is going to suck and you have no power or control of the session. You have to think with the big head and don't give in to pay upfront and tell them your no longer interested.

Give them 5 or 10,000 cop and get rid of them. You will save yourself a headache.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2571390]Does anyone happen to know the rules if you overstay as a tourist?

Yes, I know there may be a fine, but how much and for how long an overstay? Grcs![/QUOTE]The only person I know who overstayed was on a different visa. He was only a few weeks late renewing it and they initially told him he would be banned from Colombia for 5 years. He ended up paying a fine and got the visa renewed, but I don't know how much the fine was.

Go to Eucador for day or or two.

[QnUOTE=JustTK;2571390]Does anyone happen to know the rules if you overstay as a tourist?

Yes, I know there may be a fine, but how much and for how long an overstay? Grcs! QUOTE].

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2571515]Is a big no no. I can count on one hand in 30 years of travel, how many times I paid in advance and every time the service sucked. . If they demand payment up front, I broom them. These working girl types are like buses, another on comes along every 5 minutes.

99.9 % of the time the reason they demand you to pay upfront is because the service is going to suck and you have no power or control of the session. You have to think with the big head and don't give in to pay upfront and tell them your no longer interested.

Give them 5 or 10,000 cop and get rid of them. You will save yourself a headache.[/QUOTE]You're so right about those girls, and I have learned over the years. Just like your bus analogy we have one over here as well. JAJAJA.

Chicas are like parking spots. Drive around looking for one and as soon as you find one out of your way and park your vehicle, a better parking spot becomes available that is way more convenient.

When you add in the flights, the hotel, the covid tests, taxis. Its a lot of money just for a stamp in your passport.

For those that want to know, I just had a friend pass thru immigration and they told them. Just go to a domestic immigration office (such as the one in Belen, but they are in most major cities) one week before you plan to leave, and tell them you have overstayed for whatever reason (covid is a good one). The fine will be 50,000 per month.

That sounds like a much better deal and saves a lot of wasted time too. I will try it out in a couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2571554]Go to Eucador for day or or two. [/QUOTE]

This issue has become more complicated recently due to COVID entry requirements.

Am considering the ease and cost of it all to various nearby countries. Entry tests required, travel and health insurance requirements, isolations / quarantines, cost of flight, whether I can just skip immigration in the country of arrival and get back on the return flight. Its quite a tricky call.

My first thought is to get a low cost return flight to Panama. Cost is flights and test reqd to leave Col. If I can get on the return flight without leaving the arrivals hall (just as if I were in transit. No luggage), then I could avoid the extra test reqd in Panama arrivals and 3 day quarantine. But that means I would need to do check in for Panama flight online, and that means I would need to buy a 3 flight ticket. Col-PTY-Col-PTY. Bcos they won't allow online check-in unless you have a flight out of Col on the same reservation. Bit of a waste of money.

Was thinking DR too, but would need to go thru USA. More tests in both directions and extra costs for flights.

Its not easy. Anyone have anything to contribute to this conundrum?

Last night I came across an ATM that allowed 2 million pesos and no fee. It was the Davivienda here in El Rodadero, Santa Marta. I walked up to the machine that the cars drive up to. Maybe the machines inside have a different protocol?

Yes, there are a few in Sta Marta centro that allow 2 million. But its not all machines. You just need to check. For example, the one on the corner of Pqe Bolivar and the Malecon allows 2 million. On La 5, one machine allows, whereas the other doesn't. Am talking here of Davivienda ATMs. Same with the bank of ATMs in the small square on calle 13/14.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2573720]Last night I came across an ATM that allowed 2 million pesos and no fee. It was the Davivienda here in El Rodadero, Santa Marta. I walked up to the machine that the cars drive up to. Maybe the machines inside have a different protocol?[/QUOTE]

Bold move.

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Appreciate if anyone can confirm the curfew restriction on cities below.

Cartagena- curfew at 9 pm.

Medellin- No curfew.

Bogota- curfew at 9 pm.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2575449]Appreciate if anyone can confirm the curfew restriction on cities below.

Cartagena- curfew at 9 pm.

Medellin- No curfew.

Bogota- curfew at 9 pm.[/QUOTE]I can confirm there is no curfew in Medellin. I don't know about the other two cities.

For anyone interested in renting a car and driving in Colombia, here's my 10 day experience.

First thing, it's an additional and almost completely unnecessary expense, plus there are added risks. If driving back home stresses you out, you shouldn't even consider it.

There were 3 components to my driving experience, Medellin, Bogota and driving outside of the cities. Driving in Medellin wasn't bad at all. Traffic was a problem, crazy people on motos were a problem, but it wasn't significantly worse than dealing with the traffic in any major city. What helped was my knowledge of Medellin. I already had a good idea how to get to the places I wanted to go. One issue which popped up, paying at parking garages. I expected to be able to pay on my way out, and ended up blocking the exit for 10 minutes, while I ran back to the payment machine.

The streets in Medellin are mostly in good condition. Potholes weren't too much of a problem, although one in the south end of Itagui snuck up on me. Just make sure to keep your eyes open for the speed bumps. Some of them will destroy a car. I didn't have any issues finding parking. A good spot I found near Parque Lleras was Valet Pro, right across the street from Hooters. If you come in from Calle 7 you can avoid all the traffic.

Driving in Bogota, I didn't do too much. Mainly driving out of and back into the city. One noticeable difference, drivers in Bogota are more impatient. Expect to hear more horns and to have more close encounters with motos. Also, the roads in Bogota are terrible. I've seen potholes that are more than a foot deep. I would rate them as the worst city streets I've seen.

Driving outside of the cities is not for the timid. Although most of the roads were decent, there are many narrow, steep and twisting roads where the trucks are going 5 mph. Passing is a game of Russian Roulette. I had a few close encounters with oncoming traffic, one close enough that I'm pretty sure one guy needed a change of underwear. There are construction zones where they will stop all traffic for 30 minutes or more. All you can do is sit and wait.

The worst problem I encountered was from Google Maps. It directed me off the highway and onto a dirt, one lane road which I was stuck on for 30 miles. Many times I had to stop and back up to find a spot wide enough for 2 vehicles. At least there weren't any tolls.

Speaking of tolls, expect a lot of them. They usually cost about 12 k. It's a good way to get rid of some of your coins.

To me, the biggest advantage was being able to go where I wanted, when I wanted. I took several trips to places outside of Medellin, including Guatape. While I know several girls with cars, I'm much more relaxed driving than riding with someone who is indecisive. I probably won't rent a car again, but I'm happy with my experience.

Almost ready to book my trip to Colombia.

Planning on going from 17th of August until at least 15th of September, possibly longer depending on re-entry rules back to the UK.

Here's my plan, just wanted to know if you lot think I should skip Cartagena and spend more time in Bogota or Medellin instead.

The architecture looks beautiful and I like to walk a lot so the fact it's safer, especially at night, is appealing but I'm not a huge fan of very hot weather or beaches.

This is my plan if I do go to Cartagena.

6 nights Bogota.

11 nights Medellin.

6 nights Cartagena.

6 nights Bogota.

My trip must begin and end in Bogota as it's much cheaper for me and less flights.

Would you lot stick to that or change it?

Also do people know gyms near Parque Lleras, Santa Fe and near the Walled City where you can pay per session or for a short period?

Thank you in advance.

My last time I was in Medellin I met a guy who has been visiting Medellin for the past 15 years.

He said that it was much easier to get dates with locals and girls were so interested in getting to know him.

Now with foreigners visiting Medellin by the thousands and girls' making a typical monthly salary in just one night, what are your opinions on how Medellin will change in the coming years in terms of mongering and meeting local girls for dating?

Let me know what you guys think.

[QUOTE=LionBacker;2577627]Now with foreigners visiting Medellin by the thousands and girls' making a typical monthly salary in just one night, what are your opinions on how Medellin will change in the coming years in terms of mongering and meeting local girls for dating?

Let me know what you guys think.[/QUOTE]In terms of prices, the Venzlas are a real blessing. They are going to keep the prices down for a long time yet.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2577520]Almost ready to book my trip to Colombia.

Planning on going from 17th of August until at least 15th of September, possibly longer depending on re-entry rules back to the UK.

Here's my plan, just wanted to know if you lot think I should skip Cartagena and spend more time in Bogota or Medellin instead.

The architecture looks beautiful and I like to walk a lot so the fact it's safer, especially at night, is appealing but I'm not a huge fan of very hot weather or beaches.

This is my plan if I do go to Cartagena.

6 nights Bogota.

11 nights Medellin.

6 nights Cartagena.

6 nights Bogota.

My trip must begin and end in Bogota as it's much cheaper for me and less flights.

Would you lot stick to that or change it?

Also do people know gyms near Parque Lleras, Santa Fe and near the Walled City where you can pay per session or for a short period?

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]12 days in Bogota sounds too much unless you have connections or family there or an elaborate plan on travel; 4 nights is more than enough. You can add to Antioquia (Medellin plus).

[QUOTE=LionBacker;2577627]My last time I was in Medellin I met a guy who has been visiting Medellin for the past 15 years.

He said that it was much easier to get dates with locals and girls were so interested in getting to know him.

Now with foreigners visiting Medellin by the thousands and girls' making a typical monthly salary in just one night, what are your opinions on how Medellin will change in the coming years in terms of mongering and meeting local girls for dating?

Let me know what you guys think.[/QUOTE]I've read a lot of veteran hobbyists are pivoting to Brazil. Of course this is before covid, not sure it's a good idea to visit there now.

[QUOTE=Questner;2577725]12 days in Bogota sounds too much unless you have connections or family there or an elaborate plan on travel; 4 nights is more than enough. You can add to Antioquia (Medellin plus).[/QUOTE]Ah OK, thanks. Might cut off Cartagena and do 3 weeks in Medellin and 6 nights in Bogota.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2577520]Almost ready to book my trip to Colombia.

Planning on going from 17th of August until at least 15th of September, possibly longer depending on re-entry rules back to the UK.

Here's my plan, just wanted to know if you lot think I should skip Cartagena and spend more time in Bogota or Medellin instead.

The architecture looks beautiful and I like to walk a lot so the fact it's safer, especially at night, is appealing but I'm not a huge fan of very hot weather or beaches.

This is my plan if I do go to Cartagena.

6 nights Bogota.

11 nights Medellin.

6 nights Cartagena.

6 nights Bogota..[/QUOTE]Agree with what another poster said about 12 nights in Bogota. A few days is all you really need. Of course, you could always venture out of Bogota for some of that time to some of the surrounding areas like Villa de Leyva (really nice), Melgar, or Girardot. Yes, walking around the of Cartagena is really nice, but the heat can be oppressive. Cartagena is also more expensive because of it being more touristy.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2577848]Ah OK, thanks. Might cut off Cartagena and do 3 weeks in Medellin and 6 nights in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Check and see if dates have been made for the Fest. If it's same time as your vacation, book well ahead, it may be very crowded and keep in mind prices will be a little higher for rooms at that time. Medellin usually is very crowded during this time with travellers from all over especially Europe. Pluses and minuses but It's really never a bad time there.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2577520]Almost ready to book my trip to Colombia.

Planning on going from 17th of August until at least 15th of September, possibly longer depending on re-entry rules back to the UK.

Here's my plan, just wanted to know if you lot think I should skip Cartagena and spend more time in Bogota or Medellin instead.

The architecture looks beautiful and I like to walk a lot so the fact it's safer, especially at night, is appealing but I'm not a huge fan of very hot weather or beaches.

This is my plan if I do go to Cartagena.

6 nights Bogota.

11 nights Medellin.

6 nights Cartagena.

6 nights Bogota.

My trip must begin and end in Bogota as it's much cheaper for me and less flights.

Would you lot stick to that or change it?

Also do people know gyms near Parque Lleras, Santa Fe and near the Walled City where you can pay per session or for a short period?

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Just my two cents, but this is the worst time to be on the coast. If you want beach, fly to San Andres (there are always breezes on the island- inside the walled city can be so hot, humid, and still it'll crush your soul) from Bogota- it's only about $100 RT. That being said, there are lots of great places in the highlands besides Bogota. I plan to fly to Pereira, rent a car, and tool around El Eje Cafetero. Regardless of how good you think the coffee in Bogota or Medellin is, it's a fraction as good as the stuff they're brewing at the little restaurants around the central highlands. It's also nice and cool- so much so you'll want your blankey at night. There's a couple maps on this site for the major cities of Manizales, Armenia, and Pereira with some monger information; a quick look at photoprepagos and a couple other sites show some pretty decent prospects. If you do go to the coast, consider Santa Marta, as you can get away to Minca and the villages / archeological sites there, as the geography lifts really quickly to Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, one of the highest peaks in Colombia. Anyway, that's my plan and I'll report when I get back as to whether it's a good one or not.

As for the Festival de las Flores in Medellin, it's Aug 6-20 this year. I'm booked in Laureles from Aug 12-16, so I look forward to seeing some of the goin's ONS!

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2578705]Just my two cents, but this is the worst time to be on the coast. If you want beach, fly to San Andres[/QUOTE]Chick I was with 2 days ago in Bogota said this is the worst time to be in San Andres due to the hurricanes that hit recently.

[QUOTE=LionBacker;2577627]My last time I was in Medellin I met a guy who has been visiting Medellin for the past 15 years.

He said that it was much easier to get dates with locals and girls were so interested in getting to know him.

Now with foreigners visiting Medellin by the thousands and girls' making a typical monthly salary in just one night, what are your opinions on how Medellin will change in the coming years in terms of mongering and meeting local girls for dating?

Let me know what you guys think.[/QUOTE]You guys have a real interesting perception of Colombian culture. Some of these girls have been retiring for years and bought fincas on the money they get from foreigners. It's a multigenerational thing- the family business.

They were rolling in tall cotton in the 80's, then they moved to the Arabs from Dubai. There has been plenty of money for girls in Colombia for some time. That's the top tier who are smart enough hang with the big dogs. As long as Colombia's average annual income $41 k / year and Venezuela's is below a dollar, there will be plenty of girls looking for extra money. Colombia culture is widely stratified, and the economy is unlikely to improve dramatically any time soon in either country. Now, if they ever get their shit together in Venezuela so foreigners can visit- I"m going to Caracas, brother!!

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2578719]You guys have a real interesting perception of Colombian culture. Some of these girls have been retiring for years and bought fincas on the money they get from foreigners. It's a multigenerational thing- the family business.

They were rolling in tall cotton in the 80's, then they moved to the Arabs from Dubai. There has been plenty of money for girls in Colombia for some time. That's the top tier who are smart enough hang with the big dogs. As long as Colombia's average annual income $41 k / year and Venezuela's is below a dollar, there will be plenty of girls looking for extra money. Colombia culture is widely stratified, and the economy is unlikely to improve dramatically any time soon in either country. Now, if they ever get their shit together in Venezuela so foreigners can visit- I"m going to Caracas, brother!![/QUOTE]It's good to know that there will always be girls that could use the extra money, but do you guys think that Medellin will become more and more saturated with foreigners and the cost of everything will go up?

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2578719]You guys have a real interesting perception of Colombian culture. Some of these girls have been retiring for years and bought fincas on the money they get from foreigners. It's a multigenerational thing- the family business.

They were rolling in tall cotton in the 80's, then they moved to the Arabs from Dubai. There has been plenty of money for girls in Colombia for some time. That's the top tier who are smart enough hang with the big dogs. As long as Colombia's average annual income $41 k / year and Venezuela's is below a dollar, there will be plenty of girls looking for extra money. Colombia culture is widely stratified, and the economy is unlikely to improve dramatically any time soon in either country. Now, if they ever get their shit together in Venezuela so foreigners can visit- I"m going to Caracas, brother!![/QUOTE]The Colombian income per capita is US $6. 744 or corrected, so called PPP is US $16.264. If we use the nominal income $6. 744 and look at what MiamiSammy says about income inequality; "Colombia culture is widely stratified". Very many girls are among the poor, I have a friend in Miami, born "paisa" who gave we a lot of good advice, "These girls have no opportunities and no expectance of opportunities". Hand to mouth. Venezuelan nominal income is about that which makes their young and pretty flood Mexico, The caribeean, and especially Colombia and then especially Medellin, bring up what ws becoming soaring prices due to a very big influx of overpaying mostly "rich" white men and some Asians.

I could work as personal advice to many girl that have the potential to save to buy a nice finca. But they are not very educated nor smart, on average. Some are both very smart and beautiful. They have a tendency to wanting to move upward in society, becoming a "professional woman", as my friend Yeraldin stated it. Yes, she and her friends at San Juan 84 made 5 million pesos a month, while working in a store pays less than a million, sometimes nothing since if she is hired unregistered she can get fried very easily. 50% have such employment status, 85% in the countryside.

So, yes the incentive are there. There also a limit. If prices goes to high, men tend to navigate to other places even if the girls are less pretty on avergae, like DR, Peru, SE Asia. We all now how beautiful the paisas are. Another girl said" I live in Bogota, there I'm a very beautiful girl, here in Medellin, just average". I met her via Romancelatina. She had been shooting for Playboy-Colombia " I was so drunk when we shoot the photos in the street" nervous like Glenn Close shooting "Fatal Attraction".

I think just MiamiSammy; the show will go on! With 75-80% of the population being below 30 yo and the girls extraordinarily pretty, prices might go up and down in some circle, but it's hard to see a major change. US economy grow fast in terms of income for both work and assets, both short and long-term, so the demand will grow, not decline.

Or maybe I just can't stand the thought that my beloved would loose it's charm and become boring like Bogota?

I'lle be back.

Romancelatina went down like 5 years ago. I have always assumed that such a magnet for paisa beauty would be replaced in one way or another.

Does anyone know about such event creator that good as Romancelatina has come up, since there seems to be a free spot in the market; in their events I have rarely seen so many beautiful girl in one location before, maybe only beaten by Bodytech gym before work session.

Have anyone a clue about new dating site with big parties that attracts many beautiful girls, both prepagos and serious ones?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2576975]For anyone interested in renting a car and driving in Colombia, here's my 10 day experience.

First thing, it's an additional and almost completely unnecessary expense, plus there are added risks. If driving back home stresses you out, you shouldn't even consider it.

There were 3 components to my driving experience, Medellin, Bogota and driving outside of the cities. Driving in Medellin wasn't bad at all. Traffic was a problem, crazy people on motos were a problem, but it wasn't significantly worse than dealing with the traffic in any major city. What helped was my knowledge of Medellin. I already had a good idea how to get to the places I wanted to go. One issue which popped up, paying at parking garages. I expected to be able to pay on my way out, and ended up blocking the exit for 10 minutes, while I ran back to the payment machine.

The streets in Medellin are mostly in good condition. Potholes weren't too much of a problem, although one in the south end of Itagui snuck up on me. Just make sure to keep your eyes open for the speed bumps. Some of them will destroy a car. I didn't have any issues finding parking. A good spot I found near Parque Lleras was Valet Pro, right across the street from Hooters. If you come in from Calle 7 you can avoid all the traffic.

Driving in Bogota, I didn't do too much. Mainly driving out of and back into the city. One noticeable difference, drivers in Bogota are more impatient. Expect to hear more horns and to have more close encounters with motos. Also, the roads in Bogota are terrible. I've seen potholes that are more than a foot deep. I would rate them as the worst city streets I've seen.

Driving outside of the cities is not for the timid. Although most of the roads were decent, there are many narrow, steep and twisting roads where the trucks are going 5 mph. Passing is a game of Russian Roulette. I had a few close encounters with oncoming traffic, one close enough that I'm pretty sure one guy needed a change of underwear. There are construction zones where they will stop all traffic for 30 minutes or more. All you can do is sit and wait..[/QUOTE]Well, while I had a completely different experience with having my own vehicle and being able to move around how I wanted to, I would agree with a few of your points. The potholes seem like they could swallow a bus sometimes. And the Speed Bumps will sneak up on you. Worse is that they trick you by painting them yellow and then sometimes just putting a yellow stripe on the road. You will hit the brakes and find it is just paint then the next time you will fly on through and be launched into the air by the bump. LOL. Another thing I found outside the cities was the use of multiple speed bumps when approaching a stop sign and they will use the same trick of just painting the lines sometimes. They are white and will rock your molars out if you do not slow down for them.

I Loved having the ability to come and go when and where I wanted. I had reserved a car with National before the trip but got a weird message as I landed stating that my reservation had been cancelled due to not having any cars. I am an Executive Level user with them and was all the more annoyed at this. They got an ear full when I got back to the states. Anyway, I found a guy on OLX and rented a car directly from him. It was a nice, older RAV4 at got us around well. Only issue there was that he had the car on GPS and knew everywhere we went. We told him we were going to Santa Marta for a couple of days but when we got there we could not find a decent hotel room or even an AirBNB to rent so we returned to our apartment in Barranquilla. Along the road back he texted us asking why we were returning OMFG! That's when we knew we were being tracked. We told him what happened and didn't hear from him again for a couple of days when we decided to take a trip up into the Mountains to visit my girls family near Sincelejo. He was a bit pissed that we were taking his car way out of the city without letting him know in advance. When we went to give him his vehicle back I took all the blame and said that I was not accustomed to reporting when and where I was going in a rental. He said he had had several stolen and was just protecting himself, which I totally understand.

Anyway, This was the first time in many years that I got pulled over in a roadblock and it was because I was a gringo way out in the middle of nowhere and they probably had never met one. Anyway they separated me from my girlfriend and starting questioning me about when and where I picked up this puta and what I was doing way out here with her. They went through all our stuff int he car and came across a bag of my medications. That's when the real shit started. They asked me where my declaration form was for the meds, handcuffed me and really started pouring on the rough act. I was 99% sure that I didn't need one but they had me on that 1% chance and said they were going to take me to their jail until this got straightened out. Well it was an obvious shake down but they had my girl jumping up and down and cussing everyone and me bent over a motorcycle playing rough. The end result was they took ALL our cash and let us go. Problem was I had too much cash for what I needed and they get it all. Moral of that story is to travel with multiple re loadable VISA or MC with like $100 on each one and hide the bulk of them and only have the one you are using handy and a little cash cause they will take what you have period.

The Tolls are absolutely correct and there are tons of them and they only take cash. This was a problem for us after the cops took all of ours and they didn't care that we had to pay tolls either.

As for driving in the cities, it's a lot like being in a demolition derby while trying to NOT actually hit anyone. The Motos will be all around you and now one pays any attention to lane stripes or stop signs. It's just slow and go. The first one into the opening wins every time. LOL I loved this part as it seems to play right into my style but my girlfriend was horrified that I would drive like a taxi driver. SMH!

Anyway, I loved it and will definitely be renting cars every time I return as the freedom for me is paramount.

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[QUOTE=MrSavant;2498576]If you want something real and more exclusive it is also more expensive but 100% reliable. At gringolovemedellin [URL]https://thesapnation.wixsite.com/website[/URL].[/QUOTE]I even like Rap, but that is not the type of high end image I would go for. Maybe the gold chain crowd would, but universally when you market for a higher end you are marketing towards an older demographic because they usually have more money, and old guys don't like Rap. But for all I know that company could be outrageously successful. I didn't the girls they were showing were that great either. Looks like style and no substance to me. Hmmmm, and only your second post. Something does not feel right here.

[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2581083]Well, while I had a completely different experience with having my own vehicle and being able to move around how I wanted to, I would agree with a few of your points. The potholes seem like they could swallow a bus sometimes. And the Speed Bumps will sneak up on you. Worse is that they trick you by painting them yellow and then sometimes just putting a yellow stripe on the road. You will hit the brakes and find it is just paint then the next time you will fly on through and be launched into the air by the bump. LOL. Another thing I found outside the cities was the use of multiple speed bumps when approaching a stop sign and they will use the same trick of just painting the lines sometimes. They are white and will rock your molars out if you do not slow down for them.

I Loved having the ability to come and go when and where I wanted. I had reserved a car with National before the trip but got a weird message as I landed stating that my reservation had been cancelled due to not having any cars. I am an Executive Level user with them and was all the more annoyed at this. They got an ear full when I got back to the states. Anyway, I found a guy on OLX and rented a car directly from him. It was a nice, older RAV4 at got us around well. Only issue there was that he had the car on GPS and knew everywhere we went. We told him we were going to Santa Marta for a couple of days but when we got there we could not find a decent hotel room or even an AirBNB to rent so we returned to our apartment in Barranquilla. Along the road back he texted us asking why we were returning OMFG! That's when we knew we were being tracked. We told him what happened and didn't hear from him again for a couple of days when we decided to take a trip up into the Mountains to visit my girls family near Sincelejo. He was a bit pissed that we were taking his car way out of the city without letting him know in advance. When we went to give him his vehicle back I took all the blame and said that I was not accustomed to reporting when and where I was going in a rental. He said he had had several stolen and was just protecting himself, which I totally understand.

Anyway, This was the first time in many years that I got pulled over in a roadblock and it was because I was a gringo way out in the middle of nowhere and they probably had never met one. Anyway they separated me from my girlfriend and starting questioning me about when and where I picked up this puta and what I was doing way out here with her. They went through all our stuff int he car and came across a bag of my medications. That's when the real shit started. They asked me where my declaration form was for the meds, handcuffed me and really started pouring on the rough act. I was 99% sure that I didn't need one but they had me on that 1% chance and said they were going to take me to their jail until this got straightened out. Well it was an obvious shake down but they had my girl jumping up and down and cussing everyone and me bent over a motorcycle playing rough. The end result was they took ALL our cash and let us go. Problem was I had too much cash for what I needed and they get it all. Moral of that story is to travel with multiple re loadable VISA or MC with like $100 on each one and hide the bulk of them and only have the one you are using handy and a little cash cause they will take what you have period.

The Tolls are absolutely correct and there are tons of them and they only take cash. This was a problem for us after the cops took all of ours and they didn't care that we had to pay tolls either.

As for driving in the cities, it's a lot like being in a demolition derby while trying to NOT actually hit anyone. The Motos will be all around you and now one pays any attention to lane stripes or stop signs. It's just slow and go. The first one into the opening wins every time. LOL I loved this part as it seems to play right into my style but my girlfriend was horrified that I would drive like a taxi driver. SMH!

Anyway, I loved it and will definitely be renting cars every time I return as the freedom for me is paramount.[/QUOTE]This should not have cost you more than 50 k in COP:

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2578708]Chick I was with 2 days ago in Bogota said this is the worst time to be in San Andres due to the hurricanes that hit recently.[/QUOTE]Total bullshit. I just went there several weeks ago. It's fine. Those hurricans were almost a year ago.

I'd absolutely recommend San Andres over anywhere on the coast.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2577848]Ah OK, thanks. Might cut off Cartagena and do 3 weeks in Medellin and 6 nights in Bogota.[/QUOTE]I feel the same about MDE and CTG. 3-4 days and I'm peacin out. They're both boring.

Why not check out Pereira, Manizales, Armenia, Bucaramanga?

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2575449]Appreciate if anyone can confirm the curfew restriction on cities below.

Cartagena- curfew at 9 pm.

Medellin- No curfew.

Bogota- curfew at 9 pm.[/QUOTE]There hasn't been a curfew in Bogota for a long time now.

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2582251]There hasn't been a curfew in Bogota for a long time now.[/QUOTE]Just left CTG, curfew is 12 midnight.

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2582249]Total bullshit. I just went there several weeks ago. It's fine. Those hurricans were almost a year ago.
I'd absolutely recommend San Andres over anywhere on the coast.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Hurricane season is just starting up. That area is a rare pathway for hurricanes to take. I live in Florida so I pay attention somewhat to hurricanes. I love guys taking advice from girls because it is almost always wrong. Oh, kinda like the crap so many here give bad information or preach about.

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2582247]This should not have cost you more than 50 k in COP:[/QUOTE]I know that I should have been more forceful but they had me in handcuffs and had called for transport since they were motorcycle cops. They were really putting on the hard ass part about taking me to jail until they found out what pills I had. My girlfriend was flipping out so I just gave it up.

I was in a similar situation many years ago and they took about the equivalent of what you said. I was a passenger at the time and there was a lot of screaming and yelling on both sides.

The take away for me is travel with a lot less money because it seems they want to take what you have. I also think I will get several Prepaid Visa of MC cards and just put $100 on each. I can hide the ones I'm not using and just carry the one and a bit of pocket change in the future.

Be safe and have a blast.

SKY.

Hello friends,

I got both vaccinations and I have a desire to reach Colombia.

Can you tell me what I need to enter the country beyond the Visa in this time of covid-19?

In other words, is it easy or difficult to enter Colombia?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2582543]I got both vaccinations and I have a desire to reach Colombia. Can you tell me what I need to enter the country beyond the Visa in this time of covid-19? In other words, is it easy or difficult to enter Colombia?[/QUOTE]112 posts and you do not realize there are people on this site from all over the world. Nobody knows you or what country you are from in order to tell you what is needed. Best thing to do would be to see if your country has an embassy in Colombia and look on their website. Second best thing would be to look at the State Department from your country website.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2582543]Hello friends,

I got both vaccinations and I have a desire to reach Colombia.

Can you tell me what I need to enter the country beyond the Visa in this time of covid-19?

In other words, is it easy or difficult to enter Colombia?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]It's damn near impossible. A year ago BM SJobs was talking about paying someone to smuggle him into the country. He's since disappeared and hasn't been heard from. I fear the worst.

Have you considered reading the various forums, such as the Medellin, Bogota and Cartagena reports? I'm almost certain that if it's difficult to enter Colombia, the information will be found there.

[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2581083]Well, while I had a completely different experience with having my own vehicle and being able to move around how I wanted to, I would agree with a few of your points. The potholes seem like they could swallow a bus sometimes. And the Speed Bumps will sneak up on you. Worse is that they trick you by painting them yellow and then sometimes just putting a yellow stripe on the road. You will hit the brakes and find it is just paint then the next time you will fly on through and be launched into the air by the bump. LOL. Another thing I found outside the cities was the use of multiple speed bumps when approaching a stop sign and they will use the same trick of just painting the lines sometimes. They are white and will rock your molars out if you do not slow down for them.

I Loved having the ability to come and go when and where I wanted. I had reserved a car with National before the trip but got a weird message as I landed stating that my reservation had been cancelled due to not having any cars. I am an Executive Level user with them and was all the more annoyed at this. They got an ear full when I got back to the states. Anyway, I found a guy on OLX and rented a car directly from him. It was a nice, older RAV4 at got us around well. Only issue there was that he had the car on GPS and knew everywhere we went. We told him we were going to Santa Marta for a couple of days but when we got there we could not find a decent hotel room or even an AirBNB to rent so we returned to our apartment in Barranquilla. Along the road back he texted us asking why we were returning OMFG!.[/QUOTE]I never have had any issues with the police. Twice I was in a taxi late at night and was stopped. Both times they glanced inside and waved us on. Once a cop in Medellin told me I couldn't drink my beer in Parque Lleras. I walked 20 yards out of the park and finished my beer.

I did get pulled over by the transportation police in the rental car, but when he found out it was a rental he let me go.

I rented from Enterprise and had no issues. I'll also probably rent again. It's just nice to be able to hop in and get out of town.

Oh that made me cringe!

I guess some guys want to pretend to live the dream of flexin' and flashin' their bling and sending pics to their social media.

What really made me cringe was how they photoshopped their logo on the bikinis and bling chains on the necks of model pics they scraped off the internet.

[QUOTE=MrSavant;2498576]If you want something real and more exclusive it is also more expensive but 100% reliable. At gringolovemedellin [URL]https://thesapnation.wixsite.com/website[/URL].[/QUOTE]

I need to know some information:

Where are good places to find chicas?

What is the range / cost?

Where should I stay?

Any miscellaneous information would be helpful.

[QUOTE=Pookdog93;2584111]I need to know some information:

Where are good places to find chicas?

What is the range / cost?

Where should I stay?

Any miscellaneous information would be helpful.[/QUOTE]Read the Medellin forum. The answers to your questions, along with the answers to a lot of questions you don't know you will have, can be found there.

[URL]https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/07/24/colombian-fest-chicago-returns-to-humboldt-park/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pookdog93;2584111]I need to know some information:

Where are good places to find chicas?

What is the range / cost?

Where should I stay?

Any miscellaneous information would be helpful.[/QUOTE]Go to the medellin thread and read every page back to 150.

All your questions are answered.

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[QUOTE=Pookdog93;2584111]I need to know some information:

Where are good places to find chicas?

What is the range / cost?

Where should I stay?

Any miscellaneous information would be helpful.[/QUOTE]I would message you bt you're not a paid member.

Sky.

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2582250]I feel the same about MDE and CTG. 3-4 days and I'm peacin out. They're both boring.

Why not check out Pereira, Manizales, Armenia, Bucaramanga?[/QUOTE]That's what I did, because I have that very same problem, out of 2 weeks in MDE I also booked a few days in Pereira and Santa Marta.

Do you think if it is possible to spend one week in Brasil and then one week in Colombia? Restrictions?

Thanks for your answer.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2584901]Do you think if it is possible to spend one week in Brasil and then one week in Colombia? Restrictions?

Thanks for your answer.[/QUOTE]I think I read that you need to have your yellow fever vaccine if your going from Brazil to Colombia, could be wrong though.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2584917]I think I read that you need to have your yellow fever vaccine if your going from Brazil to Colombia, could be wrong though.[/QUOTE]A couple of years ago, I spent a week in Colombia, then a week in Brazil. The Brazilian border folks requested proof of yellow fever vaccination. In the way back, I spent one more night in Colombia. If I remember correctly, they did not ask for any proof of vaccination. However, this is easy to check via Google.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2584917]I think I read that you need to have your yellow fever vaccine if your going from Brazil to Colombia, could be wrong though.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for your answer but you said yellow fever vaccine? Or covid vaccine? Maybe I will try to go first Colombia and after Brasil, in Brasil I think less restrictions.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2585156]Many thanks for your answer but you said yellow fever vaccine? Or covid vaccine? Maybe I will try to go first Colombia and after Brasil, in Brasil I think less restrictions.[/QUOTE]Also need yellow fever vaccination going from Colombia to Costa Rica.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2585070]A couple of years ago, I spent a week in Colombia, then a week in Brazil. The Brazilian border folks requested proof of yellow fever vaccination. In the way back, I spent one more night in Colombia. If I remember correctly, they did not ask for any proof of vaccination. However, this is easy to check via Google.[/QUOTE]Another board member posted that he recently tried to go from Brazil to Colombia last month and they wanted to see proof that he had yellow fever vaccination. He had to stay an extra day to get it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2585194]Another board member posted that he recently tried to go from Brazil to Colombia last month and they wanted to see proof that he had yellow fever vaccination. He had to stay an extra day to get it.[/QUOTE]Many many thanks for advices guys, I didn't know that you need a yellow vaccine from Brasil to Colombia so first I will go to Colombia and then Brasil, thanks one more to telling me, otherwise I would have had problems.

This may help:
It is better to be safe than Sorry.

Brazil:

[URL]https://www.passporthealthusa.com/destination-advice/brazil/[/URL]

Colombia:

[URL]https://www.passporthealthusa.com/destination-advice/colombia/#:~:text=The%20CDC%20and%20WHO%20recommend,%2C%20shingles%2C%20pneumonia%20and%20influenza.&text=Shot%20lasts%202%20years.[/URL]

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2585252]Many many thanks for advices guys, I didn't know that you need a yellow vaccine from Brasil to Colombia so first I will go to Colombia and then Brasil, thanks one more to telling me, otherwise I would have had problems.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2585264]This may help:
It is better to be safe than Sorry.

Brazil:

[URL]https://www.passporthealthusa.com/destination-advice/brazil/[/URL]

Colombia:

[URL]https://www.passporthealthusa.com/destination-advice/colombia/#:~:text=The%20CDC%20and%20WHO%20recommend,%2C%20shingles%2C%20pneumonia%20and%20influenza.&text=Shot%20lasts%202%20years.[/URL][/QUOTE]Great! Thanks, didn't know this website. Colombia " Yellow fever: Required if traveling from a region with yellow fever including Brazil. ".

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2585275]Great! Thanks, didn't know this website. Colombia " Yellow fever: Required if traveling from a region with yellow fever including Brazil. ".[/QUOTE]Yellow fever vaccine is also required if you're traveling to the Amazon basin in Colombia.

I remembered one particular issue with driving in Colombia which will probably be a problem for most people.

In the US and Canada traffic signals are usually mounted on the far side of the intersection. If you're the first car at the light you can usually pull across the crosswalk and still see the lights. In Colombia traffic signals are on the near side of the intersection. If you pull up too far you will be unable to see when the light turns green. It took a conscious effort on my part to stop far enough away to see the light.

Another point, the order of the lights is different. In the US green changes to yellow, yellow changes to red, red changes to green. In Colombia, yellow comes on with red, just before it changes to green. Green flashes off and on just before it changes to red. Once the green flashes off and on you have about 1 second before the cross traffic enters the intersection.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2585275]Great! Thanks, didn't know this website. Colombia " Yellow fever: Required if traveling from a region with yellow fever including Brazil. ".[/QUOTE]I also believe Colombians, last time I checked, need a yellow fever shot to enter Bahamas.

Here is the president of the House of Representatives of Colombia, Jennifer Arias:

[URL]https://twitter.com/MJDuzan/status/1417954205629833216[/URL]

And here is Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi:

[URL]https://www.channel3000.com/wineke-is-nancy-pelosi-the-jan-6-villain/[/URL]

The two ladies perfectly characterize what each country has to offer.

[QUOTE=Pinga98;2587075]Here is the president of the House of Representatives of Colombia, Jennifer Arias:

[URL]https://twitter.com/MJDuzan/status/1417954205629833216[/URL]

And here is Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi:

[URL]https://www.channel3000.com/wineke-is-nancy-pelosi-the-jan-6-villain/[/URL]

The two ladies perfectly characterize what each country has to offer.[/QUOTE]LOL. Great pics. Thing people do not know about Pelosi is when she goes anywhere she travels in a 737 with her 200 person posse surrounded by body guards. She does not carry a gun (but she wants them banned from citizens) but she has more guns around her than Ms. Arias does, more by a long shot.

Last year cops killed 961 people and the press paid little attention to it:[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/[/URL].

But all we heard about is the school shootings and 79 people died in them. [URL]https://everytownresearch.org/maps/mass-shootings-in-america-2009-2019/[/URL].

Viva Colombia!

A general request dor recommendations here. Normally I stock up gels and pills to keep me "rock solid" when I visit thailand. I usually buy kamagra. But due to covid, I am out of stock.

I have been buying macho in Colombia which is super-cheap but a little hit and miss. What does everyone else use? I am looking for economy and frequent use. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2584901]Do you think if it is possible to spend one week in Brasil and then one week in Colombia? Restrictions?

Thanks for your answer.[/QUOTE]Recently I traveled from Brazil to Colombia. Yes, you do need proof of vaccination for Yellow Fever.

Since I did not have this, I went to a local clinic to get the vaccination-but this alone is not enough-you then need to go to GRU airport 2nd floor and find the Anvisa office where they will make a certificate for you to show the airline (most likely Copa Air). Take this to the boarding gate and you will be fine. They do check so if you don't have it you will be denied boarding- no exceptions.

In CTG on August 10 t0 August 16th.

I need a contact for an apartment The Firm Has put me in the Hyatt not good. I would like contact to book with top cost under or at $ 100 USD per night. Must have super good Wi-Fi, walk in shower and hot water not just warm, balcony with good view. Not too far from Clock Tower and over night guest friendly. Let me know.

KC TALENT.

#1 how can I send emails to USA from SA and hide IP address if I use vpn it might show I'm in Afrika or India? I want it to show USA.

I tried expressvpn before and didn't really like it.

I have google fi fone for calls, but need to figure out this email IP address issue.

#2 does anyone know how to re-enter Whatsapp after they block you because your sim card is inactive?

I have several burners and all the Whatsapp accts are frozen asking me to verify the fucking #?

The sim cards are from several different foreign countries and cannot be re-activated.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2589902]#1 how can I send emails to USA from SA and hide IP address if I use vpn it might show I'm in Afrika or India? I want it to show USA.

I tried expressvpn before and didn't really like it.

I have google fi fone for calls, but need to figure out this email IP address issue.

#2 does anyone know how to re-enter Whatsapp after they block you because your sim card is inactive?

I have several burners and all the Whatsapp accts are frozen asking me to verify the fucking #?

The sim cards are from several different foreign countries and cannot be re-activated.[/QUOTE]Anyone try TOR for this?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2571390]Does anyone happen to know the rules if you overstay as a tourist?
Yes, I know there may be a fine, but how much and for how long an overstay? Grcs![/QUOTE]Ok so I went thru all this recently. Here are the details I found.

You get 90 days on a standard tourist entry visa stamp, and you can extend once online for another 90 days. You can stay 180 days as a tourist in any calendar year. But you can only extend your tourist visa one time. So if you arrive close to the end of the year, you must leave before your 180 days are up.

If you overstay or want to overstay, the offical route si that you need to set up an appointment online at your local immigration office. You can make a claim if you are sick etc (e. G. COVID positive cert), and the office will hear and deal with your claim. You cannot simply turn up at the immigration office and expect them to deal with you. They will give you a Salvoconducto and apparently a fine of COP 50.000 per month (unless you can substantiate your claim (e. G. COVID poaitive est result).

The other option is just to leave. I heard from people that they had just turned up at the airport and the immigration official just stamped them as normal and let them go. I guess you might get lucky, especially in a really busy airport like Bogota. I was found out and had to go to the "office". They fined me 550.000 for 6 weeks overstay. Took 30 minutes extra, so if you choose this route, turn up a little earlier.

I left the country for 1 week and re-entered on a second passport. I was a little concerned bcos I used a small aiport for exit and re-entry, but no hassles, they gave me another 3 months (in effect, another 6 months). So effectively, the 180 day rule is per passport number. They don't check names.

Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2589981]Ok so I went thru all this recently. Here are the details I found.

You get 90 days on a standard tourist entry visa stamp, and you can extend once online for another 90 days. You can stay 180 days as a tourist in any calendar year. But you can only extend your tourist visa one time. So if you arrive close to the end of the year, you must leave before your 180 days are up.

If you overstay or want to overstay, the offical route si that you need to set up an appointment online at your local immigration office. You can make a claim if you are sick etc (e. G. COVID positive cert), and the office will hear and deal with your claim. You cannot simply turn up at the immigration office and expect them to deal with you. They will give you a Salvoconducto and apparently a fine of COP 50.000 per month (unless you can substantiate your claim (e. G. COVID poaitive est result).

The other option is just to leave. I heard from people that they had just turned up at the airport and the immigration official just stamped them as normal and let them go. I guess you might get lucky, especially in a really busy airport like Bogota. I was found out and had to go to the "office". They fined me 550.000 for 6 weeks overstay. Took 30 minutes extra, so if you choose this route, turn up a little earlier..[/QUOTE]So if you arrive close to the end of the year, you must leave before your 180 days are up.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2589981]Ok so I went thru all this recently. Here are the details I found.

You get 90 days on a standard tourist entry visa stamp, and you can extend once online for another 90 days. You can stay 180 days as a tourist in any calendar year. But you can only extend your tourist visa one time. So if you arrive close to the end of the year, you must leave before your 180 days are up.

If you overstay or want to overstay, the offical route si that you need to set up an appointment online at your local immigration office. You can make a claim if you are sick etc (e. G. COVID positive cert), and the office will hear and deal with your claim. You cannot simply turn up at the immigration office and expect them to deal with you. They will give you a Salvoconducto and apparently a fine of COP 50.000 per month (unless you can substantiate your claim (e. G. COVID poaitive est result).

The other option is just to leave. I heard from people that they had just turned up at the airport and the immigration official just stamped them as normal and let them go. I guess you might get lucky, especially in a really busy airport like Bogota. I was found out and had to go to the "office". They fined me 550.000 for 6 weeks overstay. Took 30 minutes extra, so if you choose this route, turn up a little earlier.

I left the country for 1 week and re-entered on a second passport. I was a little concerned bcos I used a small aiport for exit and re-entry, but no hassles, they gave me another 3 months (in effect, another 6 months). So effectively, the 180 day rule is per passport number. They don't check names.

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]I too got the extension and of this writing they're sorting out the situation with the Vennies coming over in droves so everything is super slow.

That being said I'm considering getting residency but I defenitely will do a quick trip to the DR when my Visa runs out. I plan to come back to Colombia and I have only one passport.

I wonder if I would be turned around at the airport?

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2589997]I defenitely will do a quick trip to the DR when my Visa runs out. I plan to come back to Colombia and I have only one passport.
I wonder if I would be turned around at the airport?[/QUOTE]I believe so. If you only have one passport. Thats how they check, from the passport number and passport scanning when you enter. Maybe you should "lose" your passport and get another one?

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a touristic Visa on arrival at Bogota Airport?

Thank you.

I am off tomorrow to Medellin!

I filled out the Check Migration form on the Colombia website--it lists it as a 'pre registration' and it says they will email me--but, outside of the 'receipt' I haven't gotten any additional emails. It seems no testing is required. Is it really this easy? Just fill out an online form and then go?

Has anyone traveled to Colombia lately--from a place outside the USA (I will be in Curacao tomorrow when I fly)?

I don't think testing is required for just passing through airports, right? Like if I fly curacao-panama city-Medellin. I don't need a test because one is needed in Panama (if one is needed there--I don't know and that's not the point LOL). Needed Covid tests are only required for clearing customs, right?

This is my 1st time traveling during the pandemic and it seems pretty easy--almost too easy to get to Colombia: fill out the checking form on the Colombia migration site and that's it. Can anyone confirm this or correct me, please?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2591435]I am off tomorrow to Medellin!

I filled out the Check Migration form on the Colombia website--it lists it as a 'pre registration' and it says they will email me--but, outside of the 'receipt' I haven't gotten any additional emails. It seems no testing is required. Is it really this easy? Just fill out an online form and then go?[/QUOTE]You should have received a confirmation email, that's all they send. It really is that easy.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2591435]I don't think testing is required for just passing through airports, right? Like if I fly curacao-panama city-Medellin. I don't need a test because one is needed in Panama (if one is needed there--I don't know and that's not the point LOL). Needed Covid tests are only required for clearing customs, right?[/QUOTE]I have flown through Panama eight times since the pandemic began and there are no requirements for just passing through. Sometimes they take your temperature.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2591435]This is my 1st time traveling during the pandemic and it seems pretty easy--almost too easy to get to Colombia: fill out the checking form on the Colombia migration site and that's it. Can anyone confirm this or correct me, please?
Thanks![/QUOTE]It is that easy to get into Colombia. Getting back into Curacao is a different story, but you probably know that.

I filled out the form last night and never received an email, but it did confirm online that my information was accepted.

I logged on again this morning, but using my phone and it says (translated) It is not possible to send pre-registration, I have a record with the same travel details, verify the information.

I assume I am good, but I guess I will find out in the Bogota Airport. Leaving for the Toronto airport later today. Maybe it is different if Canadian and coming non-stop from Canada, as I am doing.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2591435]I am off tomorrow to Medellin!

I filled out the Check Migration form on the Colombia website--it lists it as a 'pre registration' and it says they will email me--but, outside of the 'receipt' I haven't gotten any additional emails. It seems no testing is required. Is it really this easy? Just fill out an online form and then go?

Has anyone traveled to Colombia lately--from a place outside the USA (I will be in Curacao tomorrow when I fly)?

I don't think testing is required for just passing through airports, right? Like if I fly curacao-panama city-Medellin. I don't need a test because one is needed in Panama (if one is needed there--I don't know and that's not the point LOL). Needed Covid tests are only required for clearing customs, right?

This is my 1st time traveling during the pandemic and it seems pretty easy--almost too easy to get to Colombia: fill out the checking form on the Colombia migration site and that's it. Can anyone confirm this or correct me, please?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2591479]You should have received a confirmation email, that's all they send. It really is that easy.

I have flown through Panama eight times since the pandemic began and there are no requirements for just passing through. Sometimes they take your temperature.

It is that easy to get into Colombia. Getting back into Curacao is a different story, but you probably know that.[/QUOTE]Easy to get in it seems. Got the email confirmation but no other email--could just be a translation thing. Need a test within 48 hours to get back. That should be pretty easy in MDE. Then another test a few days after returning and filling out some forms before the flight. They can't make it too hard-its not good for them or you if you get stuck somewhere LOL.

If I test positive before the return--but then go to another lab and test negative (after using afrin or something) can I just submit the negative results for travel or is the lab that takes the test reporting to the airlines or immigration or some govt entity that could block travel?

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2591545]If I test positive before the return--but then go to another lab and test negative (after using afrin or something) can I just submit the negative results for travel or is the lab that takes the test reporting to the airlines or immigration or some govt entity that could block travel?[/QUOTE]I don't think the labs report the results to the government. I travel on Copa. The counter agent takes a picture of my phone with the test results displayed. They should not need to do that if the airline or government had the information. My test results have always been negative. The labs may have to report any positive results.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2591624]I don't think the labs report the results to the government. I travel on Copa. The counter agent takes a picture of my phone with the test results displayed. They should not need to do that if the airline or government had the information. My test results have always been negative. The labs may have to report any positive results.[/QUOTE]I know in Costa Rica if you get a positive preflight test the Health Department gets notified and you cannot leave the country until you have completed quarantine and test negative, or have sufficient time after symptoms to be given a letter saying you are over it.

So I suspect Colombia would have a similar process. So the airlines would not automatically have all test results, but my bet is that if you test positive you will not be making it to the airport.

And if you are coming back to Canada good luck if anything about your test looks suspicious. Plus of course you will be tested when you arrive back as well.

[QUOTE=Guerinto;2591516]I filled out the form last night and never received an email, but it did confirm online that my information was accepted.

I logged on again this morning, but using my phone and it says (translated) It is not possible to send pre-registration, I have a record with the same travel details, verify the information.

I assume I am good, but I guess I will find out in the Bogota Airport. Leaving for the Toronto airport later today. Maybe it is different if Canadian and coming non-stop from Canada, as I am doing.[/QUOTE]I thought you can fomevij the country in Canada regardless of the test if you are fully vaccinated.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2591545]Easy to get in it seems. Got the email confirmation but no other email--could just be a translation thing. Need a test within 48 hours to get back. That should be pretty easy in MDE. Then another test a few days after returning and filling out some forms before the flight. They can't make it too hard-its not good for them or you if you get stuck somewhere LOL.

If I test positive before the return--but then go to another lab and test negative (after using afrin or something) can I just submit the negative results for travel or is the lab that takes the test reporting to the airlines or immigration or some govt entity that could block travel?[/QUOTE]Does that work? I can't imagine any decongestant having any effect on a Covid test. I can't imagine getting a nasal spray nearly as deep into the sinuses as they jam the swab.

I also can't imagine getting a positive test and then getting on a crowded plane for at least a few hours. I can imagine some of the legal repercussions if, while on the flight you developed life threatening symptoms, and it was discovered you knowingly boarded after testing positive. At a minimum that would probably be your last commercial flight.

I don't know if there is any reporting of positive tests. Delta airlines didn't already know when I informed them of my need to change flights after I tested positive. The hotel I was at also didn't know. However, once I informed them of my need to quarantine, they stuck to protocol.

I can tell you that I went from feeling fine to being flat on my back in a convenience store, wondering if the ambulance would arrive in time in about 90 minutes.

If you use the ATM's in Colombia, you should withdraw money today before 6 pm. The Visa exchange rate is 3979 to $1. That is the rate you should receive if using any Visa card. The value of the dollar is falling fast. Right now, the mid-market rate is 3859 to $1.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2591849]If you use the ATM's in Colombia, you should withdraw money today before 6 pm. The Visa exchange rate is 3979 to $1. That is the rate you should receive if using any Visa card. The value of the dollar is falling fast. Right now, the mid-market rate is 3859 to $1.[/QUOTE]Outlook for COP remains weak. Most currency futures are 4000 next month. Personally, I wouldn't rush to the ATM to stock up on pesos.

What country are you from.

Because you don't need one from the States.

Unless it is some new law?

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2591366]Does anyone know if it is possible to get a touristic Visa on arrival at Bogota Airport?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2591696]Does that work? I can't imagine any decongestant having any effect on a Covid test. I can't imagine getting a nasal spray nearly as deep into the sinuses as they jam the swab.

I also can't imagine getting a positive test and then getting on a crowded plane for at least a few hours. I can imagine some of the legal repercussions if, while on the flight you developed life threatening symptoms, and it was discovered you knowingly boarded after testing positive. At a minimum that would probably be your last commercial flight.

I don't know if there is any reporting of positive tests. Delta airlines didn't already know when I informed them of my need to change flights after I tested positive. The hotel I was at also didn't know. However, once I informed them of my need to quarantine, they stuck to protocol.

I can tell you that I went from feeling fine to being flat on my back in a convenience store, wondering if the ambulance would arrive in time in about 90 minutes.[/QUOTE]The last time I left there (7/7/21) the nurse at the clinic didn't try to scratch the backside of my skull like everyone before had. She said that the new protocol was just in enough to get a nice mucus sample.

I had a test done in the states last week and the same thing. They told me that the protocols for taking the samples have been change for a couple of months now. YAY for us. I hated having to go get those tests because my eyes would water for several minutes.

It seems to me that the airlines had no access to that info or we wouldn't have to show proof of the negative test result.

Have a blast guys.

SKY.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2591849]If you use the ATM's in Colombia, you should withdraw money today before 6 pm. The Visa exchange rate is 3979 to $1. That is the rate you should receive if using any Visa card. The value of the dollar is falling fast. Right now, the mid-market rate is 3859 to $1.[/QUOTE]I just checked and saw that the COP to USD is lower than yesterday by about 150 COP. Not a good sign since it was steadily rising over the past few weeks.

I don't use a credit card for ATM's and always use my debit. Is there any issue with that?

Have a blast.

SKY.

[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2592187]I don't use a credit card for ATM's and always use my debit. Is there any issue with that?[/QUOTE]No issue. I always use a debit card. The transaction goes through the Visa network if the debit card has the Visa logo on it. If you have a debit card that doesn't charge a fee, I don't think there is a better way to get COP.

Last time I came to Colombia in June, I had a test in hand but no one checked or asked for it. Although I don't remember if the airline checked it. When it checked the TripGuard site ([URL]https://www.tripsguard.com/destination/colombia/[/URL]), it said a Covid test wasn't require. Can someone that's flown to Colombia from the US this month confirm?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Xavter;2594813]Last time I came to Colombia in June, it said a Covid test wasn't require. Can someone that's flown to Colombia from the US this month confirm?
[/QUOTE]Doesn't make any difference which country you fly from, a covid test is not required to enter Colombia.

If you have already entered Colombia, can you tell me if you have used the Contingency Check-Mig or the normal Check-Mig? I know the Contingency Check-Mig gives you the QR code.

Thank you.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/21/us/phil-valentine-dies-covid.html[/URL]

This is a friendly wake up call to all you anti vaxers.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2595848][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/21/us/phil-valentine-dies-covid.html[/URL]
This is a friendly wake up call to all you anti vaxers.[/QUOTE]Great if your a subscriber.

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2021/08/20/1029837227/demand-covid-antibody-drugs-soars-regeneron-florida[/URL]

Can I use this as a prophylactic?

[QUOTE=ViceVox;2421781]Can you guys post some links to these websites where your are contacting the chicas? Most of the Colombia forums discussion is around the club scene and I am not the partying type or interested in that kinda game.

Google just gives me links to all inclusive sex resorts with different packages, LOL. I am planning to travel for a week next month and the idea is to meet 2 chicas a day for couple of hours.

I am looking for some reliable agencies who offer GFE and low profile sites where college girls work UTR. I highly appreciate your help with recommendations, links and suggestions.

I have been to couple of different countries and discussions on this site helped me immensely to find UTR sites and top notch agencies. For the life of me I am unable to find anything in the Colombia forums going back 50 pages on each thread.[/QUOTE]Were you able to find anything? Please let me know if you did. I'm also in the same boat as you.

I needed to fill out a checking form to enter Colombia. When I leave later this week, is there anything I need to have filled out to leave? I am asking about the Colombia side of things. I know I need a PCR / NAAT test 48 hours before my flight to go where I am going. That's all set up for my hotel with these people:

[URL]https://www.proanalab.com/[/URL]

And I know I have to fill out a form for the place I am going.

I can't find any info if I need anything from or for the departure spot (Medellin).

I guess not but would like a confirmation. Please.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2596283]I needed to fill out a checking form to enter Colombia. When I leave later this week, is there anything I need to have filled out to leave? I am asking about the Colombia side of things. I know I need a PCR / NAAT test 48 hours before my flight to go where I am going. That's all set up for my hotel with these people:

[URL]https://www.proanalab.com/[/URL]

And I know I have to fill out a form for the place I am going.

I can't find any info if I need anything from or for the departure spot (Medellin).

I guess not but would like a confirmation. Please.[/QUOTE]Good morning Incognito.

You need to fill out the Check Mig form for both your entry and departure.

Happy travels and have a blast.

SKY.

Can anyone confirm what is the earliest time I can complete the check mig form before I fly to Colombia? I've read the earliest you can do it is 24 hours before, is that correct? Worried I'll have some problems completing it, so want to do it ASAP.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2598528]Can anyone confirm what is the earliest time I can complete the check mig form before I fly to Colombia? I've read the earliest you can do it is 24 hours before, is that correct? Worried I'll have some problems completing it, so want to do it ASAP.[/QUOTE]Your travel date opens up 48 hours prior.

You can test it by going through the application and you can see the available date from the dropdown option.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2598642]Your travel date opens up 48 hours prior.

You can test it by going through the application and you can see the available date from the dropdown option.[/QUOTE]Brilliant, thank you.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2598642]Your travel date opens up 48 hours prior.

You can test it by going through the application and you can see the available date from the dropdown option.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the help, appreciate it.

[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2596624]Good morning Incognito.

You need to fill out the Check Mig form for both your entry and departure.

Happy travels and have a blast.

SKY.[/QUOTE]I did not know this. I did not fill anything out prior to departure. Nothing was checked except my covid test I needed for my destination.

Security, check in and everything was very very very quick.

I got to the airport at 330 for a 525 am flight and it couldn't have been easier or faster to get through the check in, then security, then passport lines. Check in asked for my vaccine / test stuff. Passport only wanted my passport and didn't ask a thing or even look at me. I was tempted to bring a big bag of baking flour or baking powder with me just. To have some extra fun with security, but I took cookies instead of choosing to get flagged in the future LOL.

They did ask about me / check my 1/2 filled 7. 25 ounce jar of coconut oil my girl left at my place that I took it with me. But, they let it go with me with no issue once they looked at it after xray.

[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2596624]Good morning Incognito.

You need to fill out the Check Mig form for both your entry and departure.

Happy travels and have a blast.

SKY.[/QUOTE]I did not know this. I did not fill anything out prior to departure. Only prior to arrival. Maybe that info was already in a system? Nothing was checked except my covid test I needed for my destination.

Security, check in and everything was very very very quick.

I got to the airport at 330 for a 525 am flight and it couldn't have been easier or faster to get through the check in, then security, then passport lines. Check in asked for my vaccine / test stuff. Passport only wanted my passport and didn't ask a thing or even look at me. I was tempted to bring a big bag of baking flour or baking powder with me inn my carry on suitcase just to have some extra fun with security, but I took cookies instead of choosing to get flagged in the future LOL.

They did check my 1/2 filled 7.25 ounce jar of coconut oil my girl left at my place that I took it with me. But, they let it go with it with no issue once they looked at it after xray.

I'm travelling to Medellin for the first time in October. Given my job, and the risk, albeit slight, of travel disruption due to COVID, I need to take my work laptop just in case I need to do work whilst on vacation.

People have mentioned getting 2 different locations (eg one hotel, one airbnb) so that your personal belongings are in a different place from your sleeping arrangements. I like this idea but wondering if it is overkill? The only things I don't want to lose are my passport and my work laptop. Everything else, I could live with.

Has anyone done this? Or any other comments regarding laptop security? I employer will not know I'm visiting MDE and a laptop theft will require reporting with full details of my travel and an accompanying police report!

Thanks.

I was able to find many agencies on twitter. Search hashtag + city+ escorts and other variations like hashtag +models + city etc etc.

One will lead you to another. Most of the good agencies will try to charge you double to what the normal rates are.

But I was happy with some of their top talent. There are some chicas who post directly, this is where you will get better deals discussed on the forum.

Be careful with the scams. After few hours you should be able to decode which handle is a scam and which ones are legit. See the responses they get, use a burner etc.

[QUOTE=Mrai7870;2596064]Were you able to find anything? Please let me know if you did. I'm also in the same boat as you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2599105]People have mentioned getting 2 different locations (eg one hotel, one airbnb) so that your personal belongings are in a different place from your sleeping arrangements. I like this idea but wondering if it is overkill? The only things I don't want to lose are my passport and my work laptop.[/QUOTE]TBH I think its way overkill. The risk of losing your laptop in Colombia is no greater than anywhere else in the world. Perhaps choose a hotel with good security service, like most have?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2599389]TBH I think its way overkill. The risk of losing your laptop in Colombia is no greater than anywhere else in the world. Perhaps choose a hotel with good security service, like most have?[/QUOTE]Thanks. I was thinking it was. I'll look into just hotels. Some of the airbnbs look great but security is more important for this trip.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2599454]Thanks. I was thinking it was. I'll look into just hotels. Some of the airbnbs look great but security is more important for this trip.[/QUOTE]Find a place with a safe, and just follow this one rule: Every time you leave your room, put everything away as if you are going to bring a girl back. Even the girls you get to know and "trust" will steal from you. I stay at mainstream hotel properties, so I always have them submit their ID at the front desk, and they don't give the ID back to the girl until I call down or walk the girl down to leave.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2599105]I'm travelling to Medellin for the first time in October. Given my job, and the risk, albeit slight, of travel disruption due to COVID, I need to take my work laptop just in case I need to do work whilst on vacation.

People have mentioned getting 2 different locations (eg one hotel, one airbnb) so that your personal belongings are in a different place from your sleeping arrangements. I like this idea but wondering if it is overkill? The only things I don't want to lose are my passport and my work laptop. Everything else, I could live with.

Has anyone done this? Or any other comments regarding laptop security? I employer will not know I'm visiting MDE and a laptop theft will require reporting with full details of my travel and an accompanying police report!

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I bring a security cable and lock my laptop to the desk.

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Combination-Laptops-Devices-K64673AM/dp/B005J7Y99W/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2LK0J84XVO4C3&dchild=1&keywords=laptop[/URL]+security+cable&qid=1630514699&sprefix=laptop+sec%2 Caps%2 C185&sr=8-1.

My passport I just hide.

[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2599634]Find a place with a safe, and just follow this one rule: Every time you leave your room, put everything away as if you are going to bring a girl back. Even the girls you get to know and "trust" will steal from you. I stay at mainstream hotel properties, so I always have them submit their ID at the front desk, and they don't give the ID back to the girl until I call down or walk the girl down to leave.[/QUOTE]He would force every girl leaving his apartment to open her purse and empty her pockets before he would unlock the door. It might seem like over kill but he never lost anything.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2599781]He would force every girl leaving his apartment to open her purse and empty her pockets before he would unlock the door. It might seem like over kill but he never lost anything.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't it be easier to just keep track of your stuff? I know where I keep my money, my passport and my wallet. I know where the girls are at all times when they are in my room. There's no reason for any girl to be near anything worth stealing, unless she's after my backup condom (always good to have an extra within reach, just in case).

Forgive the newbie questions!

Does any have a current list of girl-friendly hotels within reasonable distance (walk or 10-15 taxi) of Poblado?

Also, is there anywhere I can find a map of love motels in the area? I have googled quite a bit but haven't been able to find anything yet.

Thank you!

What's up forum?

It's been about 10 years since my last trip to Colombia. Been to Medellin multiple times and Cartagena once. Since then, I've had quite a few trips to Africa and have gotten a taste of the chocolate. Now I'm looking to head back to Colombia and have seen many hot afro Colombians on webcam websites. However, I didn't have much luck in Med finding anything like that. Some places in the forums I've heard recommendations for Cartagena and Cali, but haven't been to Cali and Cartagena I didn't really run into any of the dark skinned in my few days there. Which city and spots in the city would you suggest for someone who wants to get some of the big booty chocolate chicas?

[QUOTE=Vector313;2600568] I've had quite a few trips to Africa and have gotten a taste of the chocolate. Which city and spots in the city would you suggest for someone who wants to get some of the big booty chocolate chicas?[/QUOTE]They say Cali is the main city for that, although you will meet a few spread around the other cities. But the main region is Choco. Buenaventura is the main city, Quibdo too. No doubt some conservative people will tell you its too dangerous to go. I have never been there. , but I always take those fears with a pinch of salt myself. Would love to hear some reports on those locations though, as I love dark girls myself too.

We are arriving tomorrow to Medellin. Does anyone know if the taxi / guide list is up to date? Was looking to get a taxi that knows the spots and can speak English.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2600568]What's up forum?

It's been about 10 years since my last trip to Colombia. Been to Medellin multiple times and Cartagena once. Since then, I've had quite a few trips to Africa and have gotten a taste of the chocolate. Now I'm looking to head back to Colombia and have seen many hot afro Colombians on webcam websites. However, I didn't have much luck in Med finding anything like that. Some places in the forums I've heard recommendations for Cartagena and Cali, but haven't been to Cali and Cartagena I didn't really run into any of the dark skinned in my few days there. Which city and spots in the city would you suggest for someone who wants to get some of the big booty chocolate chicas?[/QUOTE]Just visit Dominican Republic. Sure, no Choco or Buenaventura for you, too 'hot' there. Cartagena would be the best choice, but since you're into big butts, again, just visit Dom Rep, the best bang for the buck in your big butt world.

Hello.

If you guys are members of LATINEURO and LatinAmericanCupid, maybe not, or not so frequently on LAC, but practically on all full figures pictures on the girls on LATINEURO. They shrink the size of the head, so it looks very small and feminine, but now seen it for some weeks, I wonder why¿.

It seems strange, nothing can be won by this long term.

Check it out for yourself.

I have always considered LATINEURO to be the best site, most only beautiful girls.

Anyone knows why they change the pictures in this way¿.

[QUOTE=AmoMedellin;2601434]Hello.

If you guys are members of LATINEURO and LatinAmericanCupid, maybe not, or not so frequently on LAC, but practically on all full figures pictures on the girls on LATINEURO. They shrink the size of the head, so it looks very small and feminine, but now seen it for some weeks, I wonder why.

It seems strange, nothing can be won by this long term.

Check it out for yourself.

I have always considered LATINEURO to be the best site, most only beautiful girls.

Anyone knows why they change the pictures in this way.[/QUOTE]This photoshop has been ongoing for years; I think it makes the girls look curvier.

[QUOTE=AmoMedellin;2601434]I have always considered LATINEURO to be the best site, most only beautiful girls.[/QUOTE]I have always considered Latineuro to be a ripoff site. Back in the day you had to pay them like $10 for each chick's address or email you wanted, while you could hop on cupid and pay $99 and talk live to as many chicks that you could stand for an entire year.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2601535]I have always considered Latineuro to be a ripoff site. Back in the day you had to pay them like $10 for each chick's address or email you wanted, while you could hop on cupid and pay $99 and talk live to as many chicks that you could stand for an entire year.[/QUOTE]OK latineuro is not perfect in anyway, the whole sites design looks like a learning apprenticeship thing, no near professional, and stays the same year to year. Yes, but Cupid sites Latin is like hijacked by girl or pretending to be and ask for money, and it's so obvious, why don't Cupid refresh there whole concept. Ukraine date is of course worse, as always Eastern Europe sites are all hoax. In this market, I think Latineuro stands out, but could have a lot better. I was even thinking ensemble risk capital to buy it and get a market leading position, as I have become as many of us a kind of expert.

Yes. I have met beautiful popular girls from Colombian And Latinamerican Cupid and even might found some authentic girl in Kyiv.

But it's not the photoshop it self. Their head is proportional to a length of 300 cm, or 9-10 ft, it looks very strange.

Latineuro also harness prepagos, a lot of them. It's just at Cupid, if you get 20 whatsapp and all 20 ask for money in the same manner and it has been so for 13 years, there must be a market for serious daters?

But I understand, these girls just enter a site and ask for money, that is their only modus operandi, there exist no thoughts of relationship, just sex for free or maybe for sex. Other sites trips to meet girls for 1000th of dollars. 99% of the dating sites are completely fraudulent. In this light Latineuro look good.

Attention all of us seniors. Does Medicare cover multiple PCR tests? Representative at Medicare stated that they covered one test but did not know about additional ones. I could use the additional money to give the chicas a raise.

[QUOTE=AmoMedellin;2601578]Latineuro also harness prepagos, a lot of them. It's just at Cupid, if you get 20 whatsapp and all 20 ask for money in the same manner and it has been so for 13 years, there must be a market for serious daters?[/QUOTE]After 13 years you have not learned to weed out the chicks that may ask for money? In 16 years I definitely have. But it has not always been that way. Unlike you, I fault the guys and not the women. Reading this website you should realize how many guys insist on "paying" women although they do not ask for money? Same thing in those sites; guys go around offering money so the sharks responded to the blood in the water and now there are more chicks there that are looking for money.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2601844]After 13 years you have not learned to weed out the chicks that may ask for money? In 16 years I definitely have. But it has not always been that way. Unlike you, I fault the guys and not the women. Reading this website you should realize how many guys insist on "paying" women although they do not ask for money? Same thing in those sites; guys go around offering money so the sharks responded to the blood in the water and now there are more chicks there that are looking for money.[/QUOTE]Yes it's true. I have changed my tactics a lot. I was too much a pay-er when I had easy access to good salaries for little actual work. For years. But low prestige on that work. Now I have a restricted budget, but interesting work in academics and art. I feel self confident so I attack without artillery (money) support, loose many battles, but when I win, it's my own victory, not my thick wallet, like it was many times before, to a degree that a serious relationship was so frustrating because I wa# addicted to easy sex. We all deserve such times in our lives, but it took over my life.

I even like my new lifestyle so much I want to move to Colombia or Venezuela. Venezuela is like east-Germany 1989.

Prepagos and gringos also tells me about the trend among girls / couples to have Gringo boyfriends, who can visit when they can, just keeping them separate. Each one send a million pesos a month. To the girl- and her lazy immoral novio!

So, yes we spend them away to fool us in childish ways and it works like well it seems.

The competition is fierce. I interpret the guapas of doing that, on there profile text, it says " come and pay mine and my lazy partner's life! Just like Poland 1989. You coulkr buy a wife for a few dollars and everyone was into it. It is a version o& that here. Venezuela's crisis is just the latest example of Latin mismanagement of politics.

It seems that these countries are stuck in a dependency role, often led but a bunch of crazy crooks. So Latinas will continue to be available in great numbers. Today Venezolanas, next crisis might be a Brazilian crisis.

On micro level, it can be a good idea to move to Colombia or a re vitalized Venezuela. If you are location independent. I've seen nerds doing it for years, marrying the neighbourhood most desired girls, in Estadio and Laureles.

Well. Discipline is important. I wasted money, yes. On the other hand, I took learning Spanish seriously, so younger guys betters looks was defied by old me, simply because I could communicate properly with the guapas. That also mean# local paisa friends.

Actually my best female friend is looking around fo4 a serious novia for me. Amazingly, it can happen that she present a very attractive and somewhat serious girl to me. What a luxury. It's quiet normal, but in Medellin, with her standards, she just might present a stunning lady, " just tell me age ankr preferences and I find her". And in Medellin it can happen, in any other country, yes with a leftover girl, in Medellin, with a stunner!

[QUOTE=HoLover1;2601825]Attention all of us seniors. Does Medicare cover multiple PCR tests? Representative at Medicare stated that they covered one test but did not know about additional ones. I could use the additional money to give the chicas a raise.[/QUOTE]Colombia does not require a PCR test anymore and the USA only requires an Antigen test as of 2 weeks ago. So why a PCR test?

Do anyone know what city this traveler was in or have more info?

[URL]https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay[/URL]

A Bronx mother is mourning over the death of their beloved son who was reported missing while on vacation in Colombia.

Felix Jose Almanzar, 31, would call his parents Francisco Torres and Dianna every morning at 7 am.

They say they didn't get their routine wake-up greeting from him and instead spent their Thursday evening delivering the devastating news to loved ones that their son's body was found.

The 31-year-old was vacationing in Colombia with his girlfriend and a group of nine friends. On his third day in the country, his family reported him missing once they learned that he didn't return to his hotel room after getting into a fight with his girlfriend early Saturday morning.

They say his body was found in another hotel three miles away from where he was staying.

Torres tells News 12 that his stepson was identified through his tattoos. He says he believes he encountered the wrong people.

He says both he and his wife tried to convince their son not to go to Colombia because they felt it was dangerous, but believed he shrugged the concerns due to how cheap the flight was.

The Bronx family is now working with Colombian police and the Embassy of Colombia of New York to obtain surveillance footage from the hotel where his body was found.

They say the case has been identified as a homicide. Their focus is on getting his body back to the Bronx, where they can say their final goodbyes.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2603308]Do anyone know what city this traveler was in or have more info?

[URL]https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay[/URL]

A Bronx mother is mourning over the death of their beloved son who was reported missing while on vacation in Colombia.

Felix Jose Almanzar, 31, would call his parents Francisco Torres and Dianna every morning at 7 am.

They say they didn't get their routine wake-up greeting from him and instead spent their Thursday evening delivering the devastating news to loved ones that their son's body was found.

The 31-year-old was vacationing in Colombia with his girlfriend and a group of nine friends. On his third day in the country, his family reported him missing once they learned that he didn't return to his hotel room after getting into a fight with his girlfriend early Saturday morning.

They say his body was found in another hotel three miles away from where he was staying.

Torres tells News 12 that his stepson was identified through his tattoos. He says he believes he encountered the wrong people..[/QUOTE]Medellin, he decided to leave after having a argument with girlfriend and wondered the streets at night alone.

Maybe we drank to much and was a victim.

Maybe this is a stupid question, but in Youtube Videos I see, that most People wear Masks in public spaces.

Is this mandatory? Or are the People just so responsible?

Is there a need to wear medical masks in public? Because I could not find any information on that topic.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2604567]Maybe this is a stupid question, but in Youtube Videos I see, that most People wear Masks in public spaces.

Is this mandatory? Or are the People just so responsible?

Is there a need to wear medical masks in public? Because I could not find any information on that topic.[/QUOTE]Its a gray area.

When I was in CTG there were some with and without. In the discos only the gringos wore masks, no chicas wore masks. In restaurants only the workers wore masks, patrons didn't. When walking around outside some had them on around their chin some had them fully on, some had none but when entering stores like Exito the security guard will tell you to put it on. This was all in CTG though so I'm not sure what the mask enforcement is outside of CTG.

[QUOTE=Vewdew;2604423]Medellin, he decided to leave after having a argument with girlfriend and wondered the streets at night alone.

Maybe we drank to much and was a victim.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the additional info. I figured it had to be somewhere outside of CTG.

I fly next Wednesday to Cartgena for my first trip. Can somebody please verify that no COVID test is required to fly into Colombia, only one is required to fly back to the US?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=FLBill;2605357]I fly next Wednesday to Cartgena for my first trip. Can somebody please verify that no COVID test is required to fly into Colombia, only one is required to fly back to the US?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You can go to the COPA Airlines website where they have COVID info widget or whatever it's called. Try it, it's very easy and for sure up to date but someone here should reply shortly too.

[QUOTE=FLBill;2605357]I fly next Wednesday to Cartgena for my first trip. Can somebody please verify that no COVID test is required to fly into Colombia, only one is required to fly back to the US?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]As of this post no COVID test required to enter. Only negative antigen covid test required to reenter the US.

But with the Mu variant things can change at any time. Keep your eye on the Colombia embassy site.

[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL]

[QUOTE=FLBill;2605357]I fly next Wednesday to Cartgena for my first trip. Can somebody please verify that no COVID test is required to fly into Colombia, only one is required to fly back to the US?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]It's not required, but I wish people stopped asking this question in all the wrong places. There is nothing more fluid than travel restrictions in this day and age. You MUST check the primary source.

[URL]https://colombia.travel/en/covid-19-information[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/opinion/drug-market-prescription-generic.html[/URL]

Can some help me here with restriction information's? I not found websites that gave me information on that most are UK government sites.

What are in the moment now the covid restrictions in Colombia Medellin, Bogota?

Are there contact restrictions or is it allowed to invite 2-3 girls in private house (rent)?

Allowed to make indoor party in private house?

Other restrictions or curfews there? Nightlife restaurant, Bars are closed or open? Wearing masks in shops?

I need good detailed information before I travel to a country.

Before you travel especial in the covid moment, it is wise to know the government / city restrictions of the Destination you want to travel.

Make sense?

I will get flamed for this, but I'm at a stage where if I want to reschedule my trip, I need to do so soon. Please be gentle.

How to fat gringos fare with the ladies of Colombia (Medellin). I have read somewhere that, as long as you are clean and well-groomed, you should be fine, but can anyone confirm?

I'm early 40's, overweight but not obese. I had planned to lose weight and emerge from the plane in Medellin as a new, slim, butterfly. But I'm losing 2 lb per week and at that rate I'm still going to be overweight (c. 180 lb, 5'7' If I would have more success, and more fun, with another 15-20 lb loss, I can hold off until Christmas. It has been 20 months since my last encounter with a lady so I wanted this trip to be one to remember. I don't want to get there and find that I'm snubbed by the ladies LOL.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2607410]I will get flamed for this, but I'm at a stage where if I want to reschedule my trip, I need to do so soon. Please be gentle.

How to fat gringos fare with the ladies of Colombia (Medellin). I have read somewhere that, as long as you are clean and well-groomed, you should be fine, but can anyone confirm?

I'm early 40's, overweight but not obese. I had planned to lose weight and emerge from the plane in Medellin as a new, slim, butterfly. But I'm losing 2 lb per week and at that rate I'm still going to be overweight (c. 180 lb, 5'7' If I would have more success, and more fun, with another 15-20 lb loss, I can hold off until Christmas. It has been 20 months since my last encounter with a lady so I wanted this trip to be one to remember. I don't want to get there and find that I'm snubbed by the ladies LOL.[/QUOTE]The most important thing the women look for is personality. In Bogota "personality" is pronounced "dinero."

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2607410]I will get flamed for this, but I'm at a stage where if I want to reschedule my trip, I need to do so soon. Please be gentle.

How to fat gringos fare with the ladies of Colombia (Medellin). I have read somewhere that, as long as you are clean and well-groomed, you should be fine, but can anyone confirm?

I'm early 40's, overweight but not obese. I had planned to lose weight and emerge from the plane in Medellin as a new, slim, butterfly. But I'm losing 2 lb per week and at that rate I'm still going to be overweight (c. 180 lb, 5'7' If I would have more success, and more fun, with another 15-20 lb loss, I can hold off until Christmas. It has been 20 months since my last encounter with a lady so I wanted this trip to be one to remember. I don't want to get there and find that I'm snubbed by the ladies LOL.[/QUOTE]No problems with the vast majority of the chicas. Just be clean and smell good and have a number of 50 mil notes in your pocket and enjoy.

Seriously I have been partying with both gringo and Colombian friends who are overweight and noticed that the determining factor is how well they can speak Spanish and they use this with being fun with the girls and this is what they love, so learn Spanish and this will take 20% of your body weight off in the eyes of the chicas.

No don't hold off just come as you are and enjoy, you might be very surprised at the fun that awaits you.

And BTW, I have another gringo friend who is almost 70 years old but when he walks he limps and hobbles he like he is 90, I shit you not he regularly does 18 to 22 yo and averages about 2 or 3 each day! So keep your head up, your confidence as this is what they see.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2607410]I will get flamed for this, but I'm at a stage where if I want to reschedule my trip, I need to do so soon. Please be gentle.

How to fat gringos fare with the ladies of Colombia (Medellin). I have read somewhere that, as long as you are clean and well-groomed, you should be fine, but can anyone confirm?

I'm early 40's, overweight but not obese. I had planned to lose weight and emerge from the plane in Medellin as a new, slim, butterfly. But I'm losing 2 lb per week and at that rate I'm still going to be overweight (c. 180 lb, 5'7' If I would have more success, and more fun, with another 15-20 lb loss, I can hold off until Christmas. It has been 20 months since my last encounter with a lady so I wanted this trip to be one to remember. I don't want to get there and find that I'm snubbed by the ladies LOL.[/QUOTE]You should not have any problems. I am 5'8" and around 190 lbs, and a lot older than you. I have more available women than I can handle. As you say, be clean and well groomed, and be respectful. That and some money will take you far in Medellin.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2607410]I will get flamed for this, but I'm at a stage where if I want to reschedule my trip, I need to do so soon. Please be gentle.

How to fat gringos fare with the ladies of Colombia (Medellin). I have read somewhere that, as long as you are clean and well-groomed, you should be fine, but can anyone confirm?

I'm early 40's, overweight but not obese. I had planned to lose weight and emerge from the plane in Medellin as a new, slim, butterfly. But I'm losing 2 lb per week and at that rate I'm still going to be overweight (c. 180 lb, 5'7' If I would have more success, and more fun, with another 15-20 lb loss, I can hold off until Christmas. It has been 20 months since my last encounter with a lady so I wanted this trip to be one to remember. I don't want to get there and find that I'm snubbed by the ladies LOL.[/QUOTE]In the interest of your health I would urge you to hold off till early December, but otherwise just board the plane! LOL.

You are paying these chicks to fuck, they will oblige. As others mentioned be clean and well groomed and direct about what you want when you talk to them. If you miss with one, just move on to the next. There are many. It's a way of life not just for us visitors but the local men partake a lot as well.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2607410]How to fat gringos fare with the ladies of Colombia (Medellin). [/QUOTE]Bring money. Do not overthink it. When you go to Walmart do you think they care about all that other stuff? They care if you can pay for what you pick up. The same with hookers.

Man 180? I was that weight in high school. 30 years later I am 5'9" 250 and have all the free women in Colombia that are not hookers than I could ever dream of. You are definitely overthinking it with hookers.

Thank you all, that is reassuring! I'll keep ploughing on with the weight loss, more for confidence purposes than anything else!

Government info's about restrictions, contact restrictions in Colombia?

I have a question for some of the more experienced travelers to Colombia. Do Colombian immigration have some kind of measure in place to ascertain whether someone who has 2 passports is the same person. Like biometrics for example?

More precisely, would someone with two passports be able to stay 5 months on passport #1, leave the country and then return shortly after and stay another 5 months on passport #2 within the same calendar year?

Asking for a friend, obviously.

Much respect and appreciation for passing on your knowledge and experience to a lowly monger such as myself.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2607754]Thank you all, that is reassuring! I'll keep ploughing on with the weight loss, more for confidence purposes than anything else![/QUOTE]You got a lot of good comments.

I want to add / enlarge the thought about shedding the weight as my story is a prime example.

I am a Tall Man and over the past 4 years have dropped from 280 plus pounds to my now weight of 220 pounds and my knees and ankles and heart and lungs all thank me daily for it, seriously having more than 60 pounds less to carry around has so many advantages including the stamina with the chicas.

I am about 20 years older than you and I will tell you that the older we get the more difficult it gets to keep excess weight off and lose weight so start now.

There is no magic in it, walk, exercise, play some sports, hike, walk more and more, take the stairs (little things add up), no junk food, little sugar drinks, stay active and keep your body in movement. The results and how you feel once you gain control will result in so much confidence and really a different view on life.

Good luck to you!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Dg1980;2608056]I someone who has 2 passports is the same person. Like biometrics for example?
More precisely, would someone with two passports be able to stay 5 months on passport #1, leave the country and then return shortly after and stay another 5 months on passport #2 within the same calendar year?
Asking for a friend, obviously.[/QUOTE]Hehe. I can reply on behalf of a good friend obviously. No they don't check. You can leave and re-enter on another passport and stay the whole year. They only track per passport number, not by name, not by facial recognition. So my good friend assures me.

[QUOTE=MarcoPatz;2608023]Government info's about restrictions, contact restrictions in Colombia?[/QUOTE]You can find it all here: [URL]https://coronaviruscolombia.gov.co/Covid19/index.html[/URL].

Found 5 countries where you can have fun with girls without get trouble with police or get caught for jail through the weekend.

(meeting freelancers and drink alcohol in public like in Pattaya= forbidden without mercy).

I can read such information on Europe Forums.

These 5 countries I have on my list for 2022.

Name of these 5 countries? Nope, you not give me information so I not give you some, is that easy.

[QUOTE=MarcoPatz;2608279]Found 5 countries where you can have fun with girls without get trouble with police or get caught for jail through the weekend.[/QUOTE]Only 5? You should do more searching.

[QUOTE=MarcoPatz;2608279]Found 5 countries where you can have fun with girls without get trouble with police or get caught for jail through the weekend.

(meeting freelancers and drink alcohol in public like in Pattaya= forbidden without mercy).

I can read such information on Europe Forums.

These 5 countries I have on my list for 2022.

Name of these 5 countries? Nope, you not give me information so I not give you some, is that easy.[/QUOTE]Weird you only found 5? Yes it's that easy a blind guy can come up with more then 5, how did you find out this valuable information and will not share? Do tell inspector.

[QUOTE=MarcoPatz;2608279]Found 5 countries where you can have fun with girls without get trouble with police or get caught for jail through the weekend.

(meeting freelancers and drink alcohol in public like in Pattaya= forbidden without mercy).

I can read such information on Europe Forums.

These 5 countries I have on my list for 2022.

Name of these 5 countries? Nope, you not give me information so I not give you some, is that easy.[/QUOTE]Weird you only found 5? Yes it's that easy a blind guy can come up with more then 5, how did you find out this valuable information and will not share? Do tell inspector.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2608318]Only 5? You should do more searching.[/QUOTE]Be nice to him! I really need the names of those 5 countries.

[QUOTE=MarcoPatz;2608279]Name of these 5 countries? Nope, you not give me information so I not give you some, is that easy.[/QUOTE]It's not hard to find 5 countries where it is legal. Don't really need your information about them. It's not a secret.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2608318]Only 5? You should do more searching.[/QUOTE]I think he meant 5 in Central America. But even that is understated by 1.

[QUOTE=MarcoPatz;2608279]Found 5 countries where you can have fun with girls without get trouble with police or get caught for jail through the weekend.

(meeting freelancers and drink alcohol in public like in Pattaya= forbidden without mercy).

I can read such information on Europe Forums.

These 5 countries I have on my list for 2022.

Name of these 5 countries? Nope, you not give me information so I not give you some, is that easy.[/QUOTE]Not to piss on your parade, but this statement is based on false premises.

You presume that you can't get in trouble in countries where prostitution is legal.

Nothing can be farther from the truth. It's always a word of a local girl against yours and the fact that you're a 'rich' gringo worthy of a good squeeze, makes you a target for the police.

Enjoy your 5 'safe' countries, LOL.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2608345]Be nice to him! I really need the names of those 5 countries.[/QUOTE]I can tell him what to do with those names, but you are the one being wicked here. 😂128514;.

I am an experienced traveler and monger. I been to Colombia three times and familiar with the scene. I am planning for arriving at the end of November and spending 1 week in country with 1 or 2 friends from the USA. We are primarily going for the women but will be a few tourists things as well. Should we stay in Medellin the whole time and would a side trip to Santa Marta or CTG for a few days be a good idea. In Medellin. Places to stay? The Mansion? Airbnb suggestions? Any input would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2608191]You got a lot of good comments.

I want to add / enlarge the thought about shedding the weight as my story is a prime example.

I am a Tall Man and over the past 4 years have dropped from 280 plus pounds to my now weight of 220 pounds and my knees and ankles and heart and lungs all thank me daily for it, seriously having more than 60 pounds less to carry around has so many advantages including the stamina with the chicas.

I am about 20 years older than you and I will tell you that the older we get the more difficult it gets to keep excess weight off and lose weight so start now.

There is no magic in it, walk, exercise, play some sports, hike, walk more and more, take the stairs (little things add up), no junk food, little sugar drinks, stay active and keep your body in movement. The results and how you feel once you gain control will result in so much confidence and really a different view on life.

Good luck to you!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Sir!

I used to be a regular runner, and c150 pounds but an injury followed by COVID means that I picked up some very bad habits and around +50 pounds acquired in the past couple of years. Part of the problem for me was not having a goal (trip) to focus on. Since I've had my Medellin trip, it is a lot easier to sacrifice comforting habits for the rewards to come.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2608429]Not to piss on your parade, but this statement is based on false premises.

You presume that you can't get in trouble in countries where prostitution is legal.

Nothing can be farther from the truth. It's always a word of a local girl against yours and the fact that you're a 'rich' gringo worthy of a good squeeze, makes you a target for the police.

Enjoy your 5 'safe' countries, LOL.[/QUOTE]And, to throw in a curveball, some of the places where prostitution is not legal can, arguably, be safer to monger than in some of the countries were it is legal. Thailand is a good example, provided you don't do anything stupid. For places like Pattaya, where prostitution is strictly speaking illegal, there is safety in expat numbers if you pick the right friends!

Ultimately, you're only as safe as your common sense allows.

"Actually my best female friend is looking around fo4 a serious novia for me. Amazingly, it can happen that she present a very attractive and somewhat serious girl to me. What a luxury. It's quiet normal, but in Medellin, with her standards, she just might present a stunning lady, " just tell me age ankr preferences and I find her". And in Medellin it can happen, in any other country, yes with a leftover girl, in Medellin, with a stunner!"


I almost married a woman from Cali 10 years ago but she was so jealous that I gave up. So instead I married a Mexican woman and she let me do what I want; that was in the contract; we plan to live together in Colombia in a year when I retire; I will have the best of both worlds;.

Hi!

Thanks for some tips here and for the Colombia country link (restrictions).

Yes I have found only 5 countries. Maybe I be to blind to find that kind of information? Too old?

But you won't believe it, Friday I have wrote 1 post in a German travel forum (travel + sex reports) about best destinations and their covid restrictions and wham! 24 hours later I be banned on that forum, please guys I not write a joke here.

So with the Colombia link you gave me here for me it's hard to find such information the first 5 pages in google, I found most cases US embassy an UK government info, who is not so helpful, often their info are different so I need the info from the destination country direct, I think it will be more accurate.

Some on Europe forums wrote that when you in public drink alcohol and speak with hookers in Pattaya some tourists was in jail through the weekend, so that make me feel little bit scared.

Want a relative normal fun holiday. When some pubs or restaurants close at 10. Pm in evening, I can live with that.

Maybe you are more experienced to find good sex fun information. When there are more than 5 countries I can choose that is super!

Have a nice day.

[QUOTE=MarcoPatz;2608852]But you won't believe it, Friday I have wrote 1 post in a German travel forum (travel + sex reports) about best destinations and their covid restrictions
I found most cases US embassy an UK government info, who is not so helpful...Have a nice day.[/QUOTE]I can't speak for everyone here, but I really have trouble understanding what on Earth your talking ahout. Your problem could simply be a language barrier.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2608467]"Actually my best female friend is looking around fo4 a serious novia for me. Amazingly, it can happen that she present a very attractive and somewhat serious girl to me. What a luxury. It's quiet normal, but in Medellin, with her standards, she just might present a stunning lady, " just tell me age ankr preferences and I find her". And in Medellin it can happen, in any other country, yes with a leftover girl, in Medellin, with a stunner!"


we plan to live together in Colombia in a year when I retire; I will have the best of both worlds;.[/QUOTE]Are you looking for someone to grow old together or just nightly fun?

If to grow old I'd buy me a finca and live in peace, If not I'd roam free and whenever possible let my babies swim in the mouths of attractive, talented chicas! That'swhat I'd do.

So, this is a general Colombia query, so I'm asking in the general thread. But this doesn't appear to be as active as other threads. But I'm hoping someone more experienced can advise (and the people won't judge!

I'm visiting in a few weeks. I have a particular activity that I like to perform on a lady. In Tijuana I can mention 'beso negro' and be understood. Does that translate accurately in Colombia? Or is there another phrase for eating ass?

Genuine question. Otherwise I'm stuck with saying gusta besar and pointing to the region. Hopefully, I can be more suave than that. There must be a local term for it.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2612258]So, this is a general Colombia query, so I'm asking in the general thread. But this doesn't appear to be as active as other threads. But I'm hoping someone more experienced can advise (and the people won't judge!

I'm visiting in a few weeks. I have a particular activity that I like to perform on a lady. In Tijuana I can mention 'beso negro' and be understood. Does that translate accurately in Colombia? Or is there another phrase for eating ass?

Genuine question. Otherwise I'm stuck with saying gusta besar and pointing to the region. Hopefully, I can be more suave than that. There must be a local term for it.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Beso negro is a term that's understood in Colombia.

Correction. Someone recently stated in the Medellin thread that the 50,000 bill is the largest. Nope. 100,000. I have seen 3 but not had one in my hands yet. I am surprised that one of the two week millionaires or guys living here never corrected it, but my Cheap Charlie ass knows of its existence.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/negocios/billetes-de-cien-mil-pesos-poca-circulacion-FJ7193968[/URL]

Since March 31 of last year, the Banco de la Repblica put into circulation a first group of $ 100,000 bills. However, to this day the paper money that bears the image of former President Carlos Lleras Restrepo and the wax palm has been a ghost among Colombians' cash. *Surely, you are one of the majority group of those who have not seen them, which opens a discussion about whether it was a good idea or not to bring them to the market.

At the end of 2016, the Issuer reported that 44.2 million of these pieces were printed in its annual production, although it is a print run that was not released in its entirety to such an extent that, at present, there are only on the streets 5.2 million of these banknotes, that is 11%.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2612415]Beso negro is a term that's understood in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Many thanks. Glad to get that question out of the way! Jajaja.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2612483]Correction. Someone recently stated in the Medellin thread that the 50,000 bill is the largest. Nope. 100,000. I have seen 3 but not had one in my hands yet. I am surprised that one of the two week millionaires or guys living here never corrected it, but my Cheap Charlie ass knows of its existence.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/negocios/billetes-de-cien-mil-pesos-poca-circulacion-FJ7193968[/URL]

Since March 31 of last year, the Banco de la Repblica put into circulation a first group of $ 100,000 bills. However, to this day the paper money that bears the image of former President Carlos Lleras Restrepo and the wax palm has been a ghost among Colombians' cash. *Surely, you are one of the majority group of those who have not seen them, which opens a discussion about whether it was a good idea or not to bring them to the market.

At the end of 2016, the Issuer reported that 44.2 million of these pieces were printed in its annual production, although it is a print run that was not released in its entirety to such an extent that, at present, there are only on the streets 5.2 million of these banknotes, that is 11%.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but useless note. Trying to get Colombians to make change at the best of times is a nightmare: they expect you to be the fucking bank. I'm sure 99% of them would tell you to fuck off if you gave them that.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;2612765]Yeah, but useless note. Trying to get Colombians to make change at the best of times is a nightmare: they expect you to be the fucking bank. I'm sure 99% of them would tell you to fuck off if you gave them that.[/QUOTE]I went down to CTG with a stack of those in my pocket. It made paying the chicas much easier as I can hand them 3 bills and be done with it.

The big problem is cabs won't take it, street vendors won't take it, even some bars won't take it because they can't make change for it. I got around this by having my chicas break the bills for me.

The 50 can be problematic as well but not to an extent. As I have learned the 20's are the way to go but it can be too much to carry.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2612258]So, this is a general Colombia query, so I'm asking in the general thread. But this doesn't appear to be as active as other threads. But I'm hoping someone more experienced can advise (and the people won't judge!

I'm visiting in a few weeks. I have a particular activity that I like to perform on a lady. In Tijuana I can mention 'beso negro' and be understood. Does that translate accurately in Colombia? Or is there another phrase for eating ass?

Genuine question. Otherwise I'm stuck with saying gusta besar and pointing to the region. Hopefully, I can be more suave than that. There must be a local term for it.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Beso negro is correct sir! LOL.

Having read umpteen years of reports on the Medellin board I'm wondering what percentage of punters speak serviceable Spanish. My interactions with fellow mongers in the Mansion over the years has led me to believe that almost none of the guys there spoke any. Other gringos I met in Lleras and other places spoke nary a word. One guy with a heavy southern accent told me he had been in Colombia for 25 years and didn't speak a lick (and had no intention of trying? Yet according to the reports, many guys roam at will, communicating, negotiating etc with the girls and having amazing experiences.

During the pandemic I took a Spanish language class over Zoom, 6 days a week from March to November when I finally tired of it. I'll probably book a trip to the Mansion in the next week or two and while far from fluent, I'm looking forward to a quantum improvement in my day to day communication with the citizens. I know what it was like to know only a little bit and it could be trying for both parties.

Or is that many of the punters here are Americans of Hispanic descent who are bilingual.

[QUOTE=DashingDon;2615320]Yet according to the reports, many guys roam at will, communicating, negotiating etc with the girls and having amazing experiences.
During the pandemic I took a Spanish language class over Zoom,
Or is that many of the punters here are Americans of Hispanic descent who are bilingual.[/QUOTE]My Spanish is ok. I wouldn't say I was fluent by any means, but I communicate with the lcoals in Spanish. But then when I came the first time, I came with the intention of staying and living here for a while. Learn the language and culture. So I also did a few courses but found that one on one private lessons worked best. The issue is always audio- trying to understand what they say. Thats the difficult part. Especially since the society is so god darn noisy! Hehe. Plus I am not as young as I used to be and find it harder to pick up the full range of tones.

Regardless, I am sure you will have fun with it. Adds a new dimension to your encounters. Haha.

And no, I am not of Spanish descent. And no one of Spanish descent lives in my home country either.

[QUOTE=DashingDon;2615320]Having read umpteen years of reports on the Medellin board I'm wondering what percentage of punters speak serviceable Spanish.[/QUOTE]I used to live in Medellin and honestly cannot imagine living or spending much time there without speaking Spanish; I'm fully fluent. I also think it would be super boring to have to dick around with a translator while with a chica. Boring for both parties.

Hi,

On my last trip, 2 years ago, I purchased a Claro sim card. I know that the number it was assigned would be deactivated. Can I use the Claro app to get a new number and package or do I have to visit a Claro store?

[QUOTE=CuriousFun;2616463]On my last trip, 2 years ago, I purchased a Claro sim card. I know that the number it was assigned would be deactivated. Can I use the Claro app to get a new number and package or do I have to visit a Claro store?[/QUOTE]You have to go to the store. The number is on the SIM. Can't get a new number without a new SIM.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2615690]I used to live in Medellin and honestly cannot imagine living or spending much time there without speaking Spanish; I'm fully fluent. I also think it would be super boring to have to dick around with a translator while with a chica. Boring for both parties.[/QUOTE]That's about it, if you can't speak the language. In my early years before I could speak Spanish I remember how tiring time would get with a girl when we couldn't communicate. I remember speaking broken English to her in hopes that she would understand me better. Ajajaj Trying to communicate usually turned into me and her just saying Si. When you go so tired of it just say Si Too much work for me. When she finally left it was a relief.

You can Pop a language CD in anytime your in the car and it helps.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2608191]You got a lot of good comments.

I want to add / enlarge the thought about shedding the weight as my story is a prime example.

I am a Tall Man and over the past 4 years have dropped from 280 plus pounds to my now weight of 220 pounds and my knees and ankles and heart and lungs all thank me daily for it, seriously having more than 60 pounds less to carry around has so many advantages including the stamina with the chicas.

I am about 20 years older than you and I will tell you that the older we get the more difficult it gets to keep excess weight off and lose weight so start now.

There is no magic in it, walk, exercise, play some sports, hike, walk more and more, take the stairs (little things add up), no junk food, little sugar drinks, stay active and keep your body in movement. The results and how you feel once you gain control will result in so much confidence and really a different view on life.

Good luck to you!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I lost 20 lbs during my last visit. I dare say Tall Man may shrink away to nothing if he keeps this up. Slow down! LOL.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2618332]I lost 20 lbs during my last visit. I dare say Tall Man may shrink away to nothing if he keeps this up. Slow down! LOL.[/QUOTE]Have to change his name to The Thin Man.

During my year in Medellin I went from 260 down to 190. I'm a couple of inches shorter than TTM. Same recipe, I walked every day. First time I walked up the hill from Poblado metro station I had to stop twice and then rest for 20 minutes in Parque Poblado. By the time I left I could take that hill without breaking a sweat.

I need to go back for 6 months and get back to that.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2618332]I lost 20 lbs during my last visit. I dare say Tall Man may shrink away to nothing if he keeps this up. Slow down! LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JjBee62;2618433]Have to change his name to The Thin Man.

During my year in Medellin I went from 260 down to 190. I'm a couple of inches shorter than TTM. Same recipe, I walked every day. First time I walked up the hill from Poblado metro station I had to stop twice and then rest for 20 minutes in Parque Poblado. By the time I left I could take that hill without breaking a sweat.

I need to go back for 6 months and get back to that.[/QUOTE]Way to go JjBee62 on the weight, again my knees thank me every day for the 60 to 70 pounds that I shed off my body over the past 4 years.

Right now I am in centro Santa Marta and a prime example of walking is I simply walked 4 hours today, sweat like a stuffed pig in roast as it is hot and humid but keep myself hydrated and honestly never felt better in my life.

And to The Don Carlos, great for you with shedding 20 pounds, keep it up.

The Tall Man.

I'm diving into the Colombia scene. I know a lot of it is done by social media. Find one semi-pro and work your way into her crowd, right?

I probably don't want to use my real identity as I get into this scene though. For that, I'll need a new phone. Someone here suggested the BLU V81 V0630 WW. What other ones should I consider?

I've been thinking of just getting an old iphone 5's. It's cheap ($30), virtually disposable, and in the Apple ecosystem, which I'm more familiar with.

I monger in Europe and Canada, and it could be useful there for calling agencies and looking up information. Also a camera to take racy photos on and move to the cloud.

With a burner phone, no history to incriminate me when I cross borders either.

Your thoughts?

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2618769]I've been thinking of just getting an old iphone 5's. It's cheap ($30), virtually disposable, and in the Apple ecosystem, which I'm more familiar with.[/QUOTE]Is it a GSM or a CDMA network phone? It must be GSM. Checking the internet, it appears the 5's was mostly produced for the CDMA networks, although one model was for GSM.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2618912]Is it a GSM or a CDMA network phone? It must be GSM. Checking the internet, it appears the 5's was mostly produced for the CDMA networks, although one model was for GSM.[/QUOTE]Good point. Yes. Thank you. This is exactly the advice I was looking for! GSM is SIM so I can switch between countries but CDMA is hooked to the network. Maybe that's why someone suggested the Blu, it's a dual sim. I don't know if a dual sim is that important to me. Any other considerations?

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2618919]Good point. Yes. Thank you. This is exactly the advice I was looking for! GSM is SIM so I can switch between countries but CDMA is hooked to the network. Maybe that's why someone suggested the Blu, it's a dual sim. I don't know if a dual sim is that important to me. Any other considerations?[/QUOTE]The GSM or CDMA are just mobile networks. The iphone 5's works with both. Just make sure it is unlocked.

[URL]https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5s-5685.php[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sun08;2618991]The GSM or CDMA are just mobile networks. The iphone 5's works with both. Just make sure it is unlocked.

[URL]https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5s-5685.php[/URL][/QUOTE]After doing some research, I guess I got some education. The 5s is supposedly 4G capable. If so, then it will operate on 4G networks which do not use GSM or CDMA. As Sun08 posted, if it is unlocked, it should work in Colombia and other countries, dependent on the frequencies used.

Here is a link to an article that explains the different networks much better than I can: [URL]https://www.pcmag.com/news/cdma-vs-gsm-whats-the-difference[/URL].

I seldom listen to this kind of panic, but actually there arre some truth about it, it can be dangerous. Since we guys from very rich countries seldom experience this kind of violence, it always happens in the poor immigrants "hoods", them attack each other; but entering Latin-American we tend to take un-necessary risks, we should be carful, people from Estrato 1-2/3 can be desperate and don'are care if they serious hurt you with a knife or escopolamina [URL]https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escopolamina[/URL].

Normally I have taken serious risks, without knowing I did. My careful friend took risks since he didn't want to spend money on taxi, saving 6000 pesos and walked home to Belen in Medellin from la 70. He got robbed with knife on the bridge!

Normally I just think; wow Colombia is heaven! And this is what I report here. This is a message to just straighten up your security, I got it on Latin American Cupid, maybe 50% is not true, but can happen, especially if women or drugs or money are involved;.

"I don't know you.

You don't know me.

But; that it is not going to stop me for me to tell you this:

Few men here on the site.

Really appreciated what.

I told them.

The same thing that I am going to tell you:

Thanks to the UBER driver.

Before yesterday.

I found out That there are.

Several women using Dating sites from Colombia.

Venezuela and Ecuador.

To kill Americans and Europeans.

I connected yesterday on.

Youtube.

And what it was there it was really awful and very sad;

So sad that I ended crying for a Rumanian man.

He fell in love with a 20 years old girl from Colombia.

Sent money to her by Wester Union.

Finally decided to fly to Colombia few weeks ago to meet her in person.

And she took him to a.

Horrific Department, sent.

Him to take a Shower.

And her Real young boyfriend.

Shot the Rumanian guy straight to his right Eye.

She robbed him all his cash.

More than $9.000.

All his credit cards.

Camera.

They thought he was dead;.

But he wasn't.

Now he says that he wants to die.

Because he can not live with just one Eye.

The girl and her Boyfriend are in jail in Cali Colombia now.

But they are just about to get out.

Jesus Christ.

What a Law there.

It sucks.

Another Colombian girl.

Put poison into a German man Drink and killed him to rob him.

Several girls from Colombia are using.

Dating Sites like.

Tinder and OK Cupid.

You never know if Latin Cupid as well.

Please stay away from Colombians, girls from Venezuela and Ecuador.

Don't be part of those Dead Tourist too.

Please be Safe!

I just want to warn you.

Take it or leave it.

It is up to you.

I am embarrassed.

Because women like that.

Damage my Reputation.

They just don't have fear to God.

Some others are taking the organs out to those Tourist men.

And dumb the bodies with nothing inside in farms to the Pigs.

Jesus Christ.

This is Horrific.

I wanted to share it with you.

There is something on that on Youtube in English.

But mostly are programs in Spanish.

If you ever go out your Country to meet a girl.

Please let your Family to know.

Where are you going to.

Where are you staying as well.

And the most important.

Who is the girl that you are meeting and her address; so.

If something ever happens to you, someone can help you out.

God bless you!

Be safe please!

[QUOTE=AmoMedellin;2621318]I seldom listen to this kind of panic, but actually there arre some truth about it, it can be dangerous. Since we guys from very rich countries seldom experience this kind of violence, it always happens in the poor immigrants "hoods", them attack each other; but entering Latin-American we tend to take un-necessary risks, we should be carful, people from Estrato 1-2/3 can be desperate and don'are care if they serious hurt you with a knife or escopolamina [URL]https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escopolamina[/URL].

Normally I have taken serious risks, without knowing I did. My careful friend took risks since he didn't want to spend money on taxi, saving 6000 pesos and walked home to Belen in Medellin from la 70. He got robbed with knife on the bridge!

Normally I just think; wow Colombia is heaven! And this is what I report here. This is a message to just straighten up your security, I got it on Latin American Cupid, maybe 50% is not true, but can happen, especially if women or drugs or money are involved;.

"I don't know you.

You don't know me.

But; that it is not going to stop me for me to tell you this:

Few men here on the site.

Really appreciated what.

I told them.

The same thing that I am going to tell you:

Thanks to the UBER driver.

Before yesterday.

I found out That there are.

Several women using Dating sites from Colombia.

Venezuela and Ecuador.

To kill Americans and Europeans.

I connected yesterday on.

Youtube.

And what it was there it was really awful and very sad;

So sad that I ended crying for a Rumanian man.

He fell in love with a 20 years old girl from Colombia.

Sent money to her by Wester Union.

Finally decided to fly to Colombia few weeks ago to meet her in person.

And she took him to a.

Horrific Department, sent.

Him to take a Shower.

And her Real young boyfriend.

Shot the Rumanian guy straight to his right Eye.

She robbed him all his cash.

More than $9.000.

All his credit cards.

Camera.

They thought he was dead;.

But he wasn't.

Now he says that he wants to die.

Because he can not live with just one Eye.

The girl and her Boyfriend are in jail in Cali Colombia now.

But they are just about to get out.

Jesus Christ.

What a Law there.

It sucks.

Another Colombian girl.

Put poison into a German man Drink and killed him to rob him.

Several girls from Colombia are using.

Dating Sites like.

Tinder and OK Cupid.

You never know if Latin Cupid as well.

Please stay away from Colombians, girls from Venezuela and Ecuador.

Don't be part of those Dead Tourist too.

Please be Safe!

I just want to warn you.

Take it or leave it.

It is up to you.

I am embarrassed.

Because women like that.

Damage my Reputation.

They just don't have fear to God.

Some others are taking the organs out to those Tourist men.

And dumb the bodies with nothing inside in farms to the Pigs.

Jesus Christ.

This is Horrific.

I wanted to share it with you.

There is something on that on Youtube in English.

But mostly are programs in Spanish.

If you ever go out your Country to meet a girl.

Please let your Family to know.

Where are you going to.

Where are you staying as well.

And the most important.

Who is the girl that you are meeting and her address; so.[/QUOTE]I'm going to rate that about 92% garbage.

About 4 million foreigners visit Colombia every year, 10-15 are killed.

Yes, there are dangers and there are risks, but most of those risks are controlled by you. Even the foreigners killed are usually not the result of a planned murder.

In a case where someone is sending money Western Union, why kill him, particularly in your house. You keep him alive and happy so he keeps sending the money.

You need to be aware of your safety and be aware of your surroundings. You don't need to run and hide under your bed. And if you want to stay away from Colombian, Venezuelan and Ecuadorian women, then don't go to Colombia or Ecuador.

Simple problem, simple solution.

Me and my girl were at the river in Valledupar today. There was a guy with a kufi on selling shrimp. I asked my girl if the guy was Muslim. She said that she did not know. Maybe he just has that as a part of the uniform. I told her that it seems weird he would be selling shrimp when the food laws forbid the eating of shrimp.

Later on I saw the guy again and asked if he was Muslim. He said yes. I said well how the hell are you going to be selling shrimp when it is forbidden to eat? He said yeah, but I still got to get this money. I hear you brother!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2621500]Me and my girl were at the river in Valledupar today. There was a guy with a kufi on selling shrimp. I asked my girl if the guy was Muslim. She said that she did not know. Maybe he just has that as a part of the uniform. I told her that it seems weird he would be selling shrimp when the food laws forbid the eating of shrimp.

Later on I saw the guy again and asked if he was Muslim. He said yes. I said well how the hell are you going to be selling shrimp when it is forbidden to eat? He said yeah, but I still got to get this money. I hear you brother![/QUOTE]I had never heard that shrimp was forbidden in Islam, so I did some quick research. These guys express what I found, which is that the majority view is that shrimp is halal, and therefore OK to eat:

[URL]https://youtu.be/jn_W1L5lrSk[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/Ih4ZFVZMAe4[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2621503]I had never heard that shrimp was forbidden in Islam, so I did some quick research. These guys express what I found, which is that the majority view is that shrimp is halal, and therefore OK to eat:

[URL]https://youtu.be/jn_W1L5lrSk[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/Ih4ZFVZMAe4[/URL][/QUOTE]Shrimp is the same as catfish, a bottom feeder. Might as well have a slice of ham with that shrimp. I just searched too. It seems the answers are all over the place.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2621518]Shrimp is the same as catfish, a bottom feeder. Might as well have a slice of ham with that shrimp. I just searched too. It seems the answers are all over the place.[/QUOTE]And I love both of them too. Catfish (farm raised) and shrimp. And I will never give up pork ribs either! When I was in Dubai, I was at a hotel that had a BLT sandwich on the menu. I ordered it to see what I would get. It was a beef, lettuce, and tomato sandwich. It was good too.

People wiser than me.

I am in the early stages of planning a visit and want to get some thoughts from you experts. RT flight to Bogota from my home base in the US Northeast are very inexpensive for February. Right now, I am also planning to visit Cartagena and Medellin.

I have about 7-10 days for the total length. How many days in each city? And is there a suggested order?

Spanks in advance.

P.S. I will read each city's forum before I do any granular planning, but if you have local guides for hire to suggest, that would be great.

[QUOTE=Spanky28;2621833]People wiser than me.

I am in the early stages of planning a visit and want to get some thoughts from you experts. RT flight to Bogota from my home base in the US Northeast are very inexpensive for February. Right now, I am also planning to visit Cartagena and Medellin.

I have about 7-10 days for the total length. How many days in each city? And is there a suggested order?

Spanks in advance.

P.S. I will read each city's forum before I do any granular planning, but if you have local guides for hire to suggest, that would be great.[/QUOTE]Spanky,

Find a cheap flight to Fort Lauderdale or to Miami. There is a train connecting these two airports. I just checked and there are nonstops from Lauderdale to Medellin for $150 on Spirit and $200 on Jetblue. (I would probably opt for Jetblue because Spirit sucks). Also, I see spirit has a nonstop from Newark to Lauderdale for $40.

A lot of times you have to separate the Florida and Colombia flights. Separating the flights usually saves me a few hundred bucks.

The main thing is just getting to Colombia. Flights within the country are usually really cheap even last minute.

As for the cities, if you want the prettiest women, go to Medellin. If you want the most women, go to Bogota. If you want weather and the beach, then you head to Cartagena. I would not go to Cartagena for women, and I love the city. It is too expensive for what is there.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?585-General-Info&p=2621975&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2621975.

The force is with me.

Thanks for the input. Right now, I'm seeing $240 RT on either Avianca or American to Bogota out of JFK. Just waiting to pull the trigger!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2621930]Spanky,

Find a cheap flight to Fort Lauderdale or to Miami. There is a train connecting these two airports. I just checked and there are nonstops from Lauderdale to Medellin for $150 on Spirit and $200 on Jetblue. (I would probably opt for Jetblue because Spirit sucks). Also, I see spirit has a nonstop from Newark to Lauderdale for $40.

A lot of times you have to separate the Florida and Colombia flights. Separating the flights usually saves me a few hundred bucks.

The main thing is just getting to Colombia. Flights within the country are usually really cheap even last minute.

As for the cities, if you want the prettiest women, go to Medellin. If you want the most women, go to Bogota. If you want weather and the beach, then you head to Cartagena. I would not go to Cartagena for women, and I love the city. It is too expensive for what is there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spanky28;2621833]People wiser than me.

I am in the early stages of planning a visit and want to get some thoughts from you experts. RT flight to Bogota from my home base in the US Northeast are very inexpensive for February. Right now, I am also planning to visit Cartagena and Medellin.

I have about 7-10 days for the total length. How many days in each city? And is there a suggested order?

Spanks in advance.

P.S. I will read each city's forum before I do any granular planning, but if you have local guides for hire to suggest, that would be great.[/QUOTE]I've been to BOG and Cartagena, but not Medellin. 7 days is a non-starter for three cities. 10 days can work for 3 days each.

Remember that Bogota can hit you with altitude sickness, so hitting the ground running can be an issue. Some people have it, other don't.

If you like doing touristy stuff, I don't think 10 days are enough. Cartagena is a great historic city, and from what I've read Medellin is also worth exploring. BOG has its moments too, but I'd say in 1-1. 5 days you can see all major sights.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2622393]I've been to BOG and Cartagena, but not Medellin. 7 days is a non-starter for three cities. 10 days can work for 3 days each.

Remember that Bogota can hit you with altitude sickness, so hitting the ground running can be an issue. Some people have it, other don't.

If you like doing touristy stuff, I don't think 10 days are enough. Cartagena is a great historic city, and from what I've read Medellin is also worth exploring. BOG has its moments too, but I'd say in 1-1. 5 days you can see all major sights.[/QUOTE]My opinion is that 2 cities is the max for 10 days. You lose at least half a day when changing cities. Just doing 2 cities in 10 days, you've wasted 15% of your trip in the travel process.

For most I wouldn't even recommend Bogota for their first trip. It has advantages, but it can be intimidating.

New entry rules to return to USA go into effect 12:01 Monday 8th. Plan accordingly.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2622519]New entry rules to return to USA go into effect 12:01 Monday 8th. Plan accordingly.[/QUOTE]And the new rules are? Thanks, no more testing to come back I hope!

[QUOTE=RacShack;2622729]And the new rules are? Thanks, no more testing to come back I hope![/QUOTE]USA Citizens and Legal Permanent Residents (LPRs) who are eligible to travel but are not fully vaccinated will need to provide proof of a negative COVID-19 test one (1) day before their flight's departure. You. S citizens and LPRs who are fully vaccinated will need to present airlines with proof of vaccination and of a negative COVID-19 test three (3) days before their flight.

Non citizens require proof of vaccination and negative test. Citizens who are vaccinated, it's unchanged, just have to show your vaccination card and a negative test within 3 days. Unvaccinated citizens have to get tested within 1 day.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2622869]USA Citizens and Legal Permanent Residents (LPRs) who are eligible to travel but are not fully vaccinated will need to provide proof of a negative COVID-19 test one (1) day before their flight's departure. You. S citizens and LPRs who are fully vaccinated will need to present airlines with proof of vaccination and of a negative COVID-19 test three (3) days before their flight.

Non citizens require proof of vaccination and negative test. Citizens who are vaccinated, it's unchanged, just have to show your vaccination card and a negative test within 3 days. Unvaccinated citizens have to get tested within 1 day.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know -- do you show them the actual physical vaccination card? Or is it the registration of the card (which I think you can do with the CDC)? Easiest would be a picture of the card on your phone.

Resident Ivand Duque announced from Paris, where he held talks with his French counterpart Emmanuel Macrand, that as of November 16, his government has mandated the vaccine certificate for all persons attending public or private events. The obligatory certificate issued by the Ministry of Health and known as MiVacuna will also be required to enter bars, gastrobars, discotheques, casinos, cinemas, dance clubs, billiard halls and churches, to name a few listed in the new decree.

The decision to extend the mandate to the entire country comes after Bogot reopened to 100% crowd capacity, including its sports stadiums, movie theatres and cultural institutions. Health Minister Fernando Ruz conditioned entry to public and private establishments upon presentation of MiVacuna. "Currently the entire adult population has access to vaccines, so there is no reason why not to get vaccinated," stated Ruz. On Sunday, the government began vaccinating children between the ages of 3 and 11.

According to the latest data from the Ministry, 47,490. 157 doses have been administered and 21.4 million persons have completed their vaccination scheme. In Bogot, 80% of the eligible population have received at least one dose of a coronavirus vaccine, equivalent to 4,923.961 individuals. Colombia is averaging 1,200 new cases per day, and daily deaths are below 50. Wednesday marked the first day since April 2020 without a confirmed death from the virus. Despite the encouraging news, however, Ruz warned that the fourth wave of new infections has been "deferred" given the vaccination roll-out and obligatory wearing of face masks until, at least, the end of this year.

PS.. I quoted this from a colombian english language newsource, but in my copy and paste I lost the source information. I will try to find which on line periodical I found this in..

Yesterday I flew into Bogota for the first time in two years. Exited plane and after a short line for the immigration desks, upon scanning my passport the official asked if I had filled out the immigration form online (system notified that I hadn't) which I did not know about. Previously, on the airplane we were given a paper form to fill out but now you must do it online. The immigration official sent me to the side of the hall where there were tablets ready to fill out the form. After filling out the standard questions and nearly done, I accidentally pressed a 'back' button and had to start all over again! Once completed, went back to the line, which had now grown long! What hassel for not knowing a simple thing. When settled in to my hotel room, I searched the emails containing flight information from Avianca and also the web-check in email, and never was there a notice about the migration check-in, which is required to enter Colombia. You must also do the check-in when leaving Colombia. The new system does work well, in that you can do the check-in the day of the flight before even arriving to the airport, but it would have been nice to have been notified of this. You can find the Mig-Check at: [URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf[/URL].

Huh. I flew in on COPA and they notified me about the requirements for both Colombia and Panamá. I already knew about them, though, because I always check the entry requirements of any country I plan to go to. And not on a hooker board either. IATA (International Association of Travel Agents), the country's immigration website, and my home country's embassy info.

I never did any check in when leaving the country. This was two weeks ago.

[QUOTE=Frogg;2626016]Yesterday I flew into Bogota for the first time in two years. Exited plane and after a short line for the immigration desks, upon scanning my passport the official asked if I had filled out the immigration form online (system notified that I hadn't) which I did not know about. Previously, on the airplane we were given a paper form to fill out but now you must do it online. The immigration official sent me to the side of the hall where there were tablets ready to fill out the form. After filling out the standard questions and nearly done, I accidentally pressed a 'back' button and had to start all over again! Once completed, went back to the line, which had now grown long! What hassel for not knowing a simple thing. When settled in to my hotel room, I searched the emails containing flight information from Avianca and also the web-check in email, and never was there a notice about the migration check-in, which is required to enter Colombia. You must also do the check-in when leaving Colombia. The new system does work well, in that you can do the check-in the day of the flight before even arriving to the airport, but it would have been nice to have been notified of this. You can find the Mig-Check at: [URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf[/URL].[/QUOTE]I'm surprised the airline didn't check before you boarded. It's been in place since early last year, although the actual form has changed a few times. It is an improvement over the paper form.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2625274]Resident Ivand Duque announced from Paris, where he held talks with his French counterpart Emmanuel Macrand, that as of November 16, his government has mandated the vaccine certificate for all persons attending public or private events. The obligatory certificate issued by the Ministry of Health and known as MiVacuna will also be required to enter bars, gastrobars, discotheques, casinos, cinemas, dance clubs, billiard halls and churches, to name a few listed in the new decree

PS.. I quoted this from a colombian english language newsource, but in my copy and paste I lost the source information. I will try to find which on line periodical I found this in..[/QUOTE]So how does a visiting foreigner show a "vaccine certificate?" Do we carry our physical card from the CDC? Or can we register our vax status somewhere?

[QUOTE=Combo;2626236]So how does a visiting foreigner show a "vaccine certificate?" Do we carry our physical card from the CDC? Or can we register our vax status somewhere?[/QUOTE]The probable plan is that Colombia will have an app, similar to the current one to enter the country. But I don't know any specifics.

Probable way.

- When you fill out your check Mig before entering the country it will also ask for proof of vaccination if you have it. If you do, the QR code generated will be what is used to get into places as well as into the country.

When you want to go into a bar or restaurant they scan your QR code, and look at your ID. If they match you are good to enter.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2626283]The probable plan is that Colombia will have an app, similar to the current one to enter the country. But I don't know any specifics.

Probable way.

- When you fill out your check Mig before entering the country it will also ask for proof of vaccination if you have it. If you do, the QR code generated will be what is used to get into places as well as into the country.

When you want to go into a bar or restaurant they scan your QR code, and look at your ID. If they match you are good to enter.[/QUOTE]Thanks. How about when you leave Colombia to return to the US (sorry I realize all here aren't from the US, but I am). I know you need to get a Covid test within 3 days of leaving (if you're vaccinated).

Do you know how you prove vaccination status to the US authorities?

[QUOTE=Combo;2626312]Thanks. How about when you leave Colombia to return to the US (sorry I realize all here aren't from the US, but I am). I know you need to get a Covid test within 3 days of leaving (if you're vaccinated).

NM

[QUOTE=Combo;2626312]Do you know how you prove vaccination status to the US authorities?[/QUOTE]With your vaccination card, but there are not really any US authorities that are going to ask. They really only do random spot checks for the test.

[QUOTE=Frogg;2626016]Yesterday I flew into Bogota for the first time in two years. Exited plane and after a short line for the immigration desks, upon scanning my passport the official asked if I had filled out the immigration form online (system notified that I hadn't) which I did not know about. Previously, on the airplane we were given a paper form to fill out but now you must do it online. The immigration official sent me to the side of the hall where there were tablets ready to fill out the form. After filling out the standard questions and nearly done, I accidentally pressed a 'back' button and had to start all over again! Once completed, went back to the line, which had now grown long! What hassel for not knowing a simple thing. When settled in to my hotel room, I searched the emails containing flight information from Avianca and also the web-check in email, and never was there a notice about the migration check-in, which is required to enter Colombia. You must also do the check-in when leaving Colombia. The new system does work well, in that you can do the check-in the day of the flight before even arriving to the airport, but it would have been nice to have been notified of this. You can find the Mig-Check at: [URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf[/URL].[/QUOTE]This is surprising. Are you sure it did not end up in your Junk email folder?

I've flown down twice this year and JetBlue makes sure to send the email notifying of filling out the form They would not let me check my bag unless I showed them the email conformation the form was completed and they checked again before allowing me to board the plane. I've never flown Avianca but it should be similar for them as well.

Same process with departure.

I would strongly suggest to fill out the form within that 48 hours window prior departure as their system can be wonky and you do not want to be that person at the airport last minute trying to do it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2626343]With your vaccination card, but there are not really any US authorities that are going to ask. They really only do random spot checks for the test.[/QUOTE]It will be the airline before you are allowed to board.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2626620]It will be the airline before you are allowed to board.[/QUOTE]Do they accept a photo of your vaccination card or do you have to carry the actual card?

[QUOTE=Combo;2626815]Do they accept a photo of your vaccination card or do you have to carry the actual card?[/QUOTE]Don't know. You would have to check with your airline. I have mine on my phone, but I'm not from the US.

[QUOTE=Combo;2626815]Do they accept a photo of your vaccination card or do you have to carry the actual card?[/QUOTE]I would advise you to have the actual card, same as you have to have your actual passport. Several people have to verify it and not just one. Just because one entity accepts a photo, it does not mean the next will. The airline told somebody that I know that a photo would not be accepted in Peru, but when I entered Peru the day before I showed the lady in immigration the card on my phone and had no problem. Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2626998]I would advise you to have the actual card, same as you have to have your actual passport. Several people have to verify it and not just one. Just because one entity accepts a photo, it does not mean the next will. The airline told somebody that I know that a photo would not be accepted in Peru, but when I entered Peru the day before I showed the lady in immigration the card on my phone and had no problem. Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I guess I'll bring the physical copy.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2626494]This is surprising. Are you sure it did not end up in your Junk email folder?

I've flown down twice this year and JetBlue makes sure to send the email notifying of filling out the form They would not let me check my bag unless I showed them the email conformation the form was completed and they checked again before allowing me to board the plane. I've never flown Avianca but it should be similar for them as well.

[/QUOTE]I checked all my email folders and at no time did Aviaca notify of check-mig, nor in any of their messages regarding the flight. I booked a flight from Colombia to Mexico with Viva Aerobus and there was a prominent notice about the Colombian Check-Mig in their confirmation purchase email. I don't take checked bags so that hurdle did not trigger for me.

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At airport in medellin, the covid testing cost 90 k antigen. Cash only. Pcr 240 k. Results texted to you within an hour. Didn't ask but sign says testing is open 24 hours. Pretty efficient.

Make sure you have check mig, usa attestation, and negative covid test before getting boarding pass. You can print them out at the airport papeleria if need be.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2627868]Make sure you have check mig, usa attestation, and negative covid test before getting boarding pass.[/QUOTE]You do not need check mig to leave Colombia, only to enter.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2627901]You do not need check mig to leave Colombia, only to enter.[/QUOTE]They asked me Check Mig to fly from Colombia to my country. But there is a public computer at Airport where you can fill the Check Mig and if you have any problems, there is a woman next to it to help people fill it out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2627901]You do not need check mig to leave Colombia, only to enter.[/QUOTE]Hmmm I would recheck that info.

See attachment.

From the AA website as of today.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2627933]Hmmm I would recheck that info.

See attachment.

From the AA website as of today.[/QUOTE]Yes there has always been an exit option on the website / app, but nobody ever asks for it on exit. It is only needed when entering the country. I made sure NOT to fill it out the week before last on exit just to be sure.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2627957]Yes there has always been an exit option on the website / app, but nobody ever asks for it on exit. It is only needed when entering the country. I made sure NOT to fill it out the week before last on exit just to be sure.[/QUOTE]Interesting, I've been asked by the airline agents each time I've exited Colombia.

You're probably right, you'll most likely be ok without it, until the one time they ask for it, then you'll have to do it real quick.

Obviously do what you want, however, since it's technically required, I just get it done, and not worry about surprises.

I wouldn't post that it's not required though, because it actually is, just not enforced much it seems in your experience.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2628040]Interesting, I've been asked by the airline agents each time I've exited Colombia.

You're probably right, you'll most likely be ok without it, until the one time they ask for it, then you'll have to do it real quick.

Obviously do what you want, however, since it's technically required, I just get it done, and not worry about surprises.

I wouldn't post that it's not required though, because it actually is, just not enforced much it seems in your experience.[/QUOTE]Plus it only takes 2 minutes and you can do it up to 48 hours in advance. I'd rather spend 2 minutes filling out a form I might not be asked for than to deal with the possibility I will have problems filling it out if I am asked. My phone's data connection works great, except when I really need it.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2628040]Interesting, I've been asked by the airline agents each time I've exited Colombia.[/QUOTE]My buddy said I got lucky. He said he was asked for it last week. Other people here have reported not being asked for it as well. So again like you said, better to have it and not need it. Only takes 2 minutes to fill out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2628203]My buddy said I got lucky. He said he was asked for it last week. Other people here have reported not being asked for it as well. So again like you said, better to have it and not need it. Only takes 2 minutes to fill out.[/QUOTE]Avianca wouldn't let me in line to check in at JFK without filling out the ChkMig app. Do it 48 hours before your flight. Doing it at the airport is a PITA.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2628099]
My phone's data connection works great, except when I really need it.[/QUOTE]Haha that's always the case!

Anyone test positive for Covid when leaving Colombia? That is sort of my nightmare for my upcoming trip. For my job as well as family holiday obligations, I can't really afford to be quarantined in Colombian an extra two weeks. I'm only going for a week, so it seems likely that if I pick it up while there, I might not even test positive until I'm already home. Especially since I'm vaccinated, I can do the test three days before departing so I plan on getting the test Wednesday for my Saturday flight back to the US.

I recall JBee saying he tested positive while there. Anyone else? Thoughts?

[QUOTE=Combo;2628760]Anyone test positive for Covid when leaving Colombia? That is sort of my nightmare for my upcoming trip. For my job as well as family holiday obligations, I can't really afford to be quarantined in Colombian an extra two weeks. I'm only going for a week, so it seems likely that if I pick it up while there, I might not even test positive until I'm already home. Especially since I'm vaccinated[/QUOTE]If you are vaccinated why worry? I am not vaccinated and have been to Colombia like 6 times this year and nothing. Last time I was there I went and took an antibody test figuring maybe I had it before and did not know it. But nope; it was negative.

[QUOTE=MusicIsLove;2628228]Avianca wouldn't let me in line to check in at JFK without filling out the ChkMig app. Do it 48 hours before your flight. Doing it at the airport is a PITA.[/QUOTE]JetBlue got me with that on my first trip this year. Completely blindsided by it when going to check a bag and they said we cannot check a bag without showing the form was completed. Then they gave us the form in Spanish. SMH.

By the time the second trip came around I have it all filled out in the 48 hour window and breezed through security and bag drop.

Ill be landing tomorrow for the third trip. Check MIG already filled out and I'm looking forward to landing and breezing through security.

As I've said before, you don't want to be that person at the airport trying to do it last minute jajaja.

[QUOTE=Combo;2628760]Anyone test positive for Covid when leaving Colombia? That is sort of my nightmare for my upcoming trip. For my job as well as family holiday obligations, I can't really afford to be quarantined in Colombian an extra two weeks.[/QUOTE]To return to US without a Covid test, all you have to do is fly to a Mexican border city and cross into US by vehicle or foot and continue to your destination. Mexico does not require a Covid test to enter neither flying nor by land, and US does not require test when entering by land. Tijuana is ideal since you gain easy entrance to US from the airport via CrossBorderXpress exclusive to air passengers who land in Tijuana airport (I don't know if other border cities have similar crossing). Just make sure you go the right way after unboaring plane, once I took a wrong turn, missed CrossBorderXpress, went into the general area and was not permited re-entry to access CrossBorderExpress and had to go to the regular crossing, took a brutal three hours.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2628768]If you are vaccinated why worry? [/QUOTE]The vaccines do not prevent you from getting Covid-19, they prevent you from being placed on a respirator or in a grave (according to medical authorities).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2628768]If you are vaccinated why worry? I am not vaccinated and have been to Colombia like 6 times this year and nothing. Last time I was there I went and took an antibody test figuring maybe I had it before and did not know it. But nope; it was negative.[/QUOTE]The vaccines are only 90-95% effective, so you can definitely still get it. FWIW I'm not that worried about Covid itself -- I'm in good shape and not that old. But I am worried about a positive test keeping me quarantined in Colombia and missing two weeks of work and having to tell my boss I'm stuck in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Combo;2628840]The vaccines are only 90-95% effective, so you can definitely still get it. FWIW I'm not that worried about Covid itself -- I'm in good shape and not that old.[/QUOTE]I am not surprised you are not worried if you think the vax is 90-95% effective. Haha. Which glossy pharma brochure did you find that stat in?

[QUOTE=Combo;2628760]Anyone test positive for Covid when leaving Colombia? That is sort of my nightmare for my upcoming trip. For my job as well as family holiday obligations, I can't really afford to be quarantined in Colombian an extra two weeks.
I recall JBee saying he tested positive while there. Anyone else? Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Its a risk that you have to balance and accept if you want to travel. If you can't "afford" 2 weeks, then why not take out insurance against it? If you were vaxd recently, the efficacy of the vax would be far superior than if you wer vaxd say 5 months ago. Also if your healthy you can help prevent contracting it. It seems you know all this already.

Well, welcome to the new dystopian future!

[QUOTE=Combo;2628760]Anyone test positive for Covid when leaving Colombia? That is sort of my nightmare for my upcoming trip. For my job as well as family holiday obligations, I can't really afford to be quarantined in Colombian an extra two weeks. I'm only going for a week, so it seems likely that if I pick it up while there, I might not even test positive until I'm already home. Especially since I'm vaccinated, I can do the test three days before departing so I plan on getting the test Wednesday for my Saturday flight back to the US.

I recall JBee saying he tested positive while there. Anyone else? Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I was vaccinated in May. Exposed at the end of July and tested positive in less than 48 hours after exposure. My case was very mild. Just wanted to point out you can test positive very quickly.

I am posting this in the Colombia section because air travel is read more here, and it is the first time I have travelled with the new USA restrictions on testing.

So I meet my Colombian gal in Cancun, and the shootings there have done absolutely nothing to slow people down. The Cancun airport is busier now than I have seen it in years. We are back to pre-Covid levels.

Spirit told me the lines were long and to get to the airport 3 hours early. I just needed a boarding pass as I was carrying on, and they would not let me get it online. I tried the computer terminal and it would not work and now I was stuck in this God awful long line at check-in. I thought I would miss my flight, but I then checked the Spirit Airlines app on my phone and I saw a boarding pass there (Thank God) and then went to security. I have been able to check in online internationally with United no problem but have had shitty luck with the other airlines.

So even though I had my boarding pass, I figured that they would check my passport and Covid test at the gate, and they did. What surprised me is that even though I got my test done within 24 hours of departure, the Spirit employee insisted on seeing my vaccine card. I showed her a photo of the card that I was on my phone at the gate, and she was happy and all was well.

So we can debate the vaccine card but the airlines have IMO been unfairly burdened with this vaccine crap, and I think they are worried and can be fined for letting people into the country who do not have the test or do not have a vaccine card. So you may be in a position where you have a choice between being vaccinated and not travelling. It has never been like this before.

I am wondering if the people using fake cards are going to be caught because the federal government is recording who has been vaccinated and who has not been. It seems like it would be super easy to catch people using fake cards. As of now, I just had to show the test and the card, so it would be possible to fake both, but I just do not know how long that is going to last.

I will say the social distancing rules have gotten stupid. In the photo, you can see how crowded things were. The seats were interesting. Every other seat is forbidden to be used because of social distancing. As you can see, two women are sitting next to each other, breaking the rules.

It is not in the photo but if you were to look past them, there were empty seats marked off as not in use due to social distancing and there were people standing cramped next to each other.

This social distancing crap is not working anymore. If you made people do that, the lines would have been out of the terminal. Cancun has gone from one terminal open now to three, and they are all packed.

I got through Mexican customs in an hour. It took her two. When she got back to Bogota, once again, she was in line for 2 hours. In the USA, customs lines were the same this time for me.

But things have changed and IMO they have changed now for the worst.

Hey fellas, have been scanning through back posts but still have some questions. I was going to The Philippines twice a year for 3 years and loved it, but my patience is running out on its reopening. I love it there for a few reasons. It's cheap as hell. The girls are petite. My type. I'm a good looking, tall fit youngish white guy and it's like shooting fish in a barrel, in the civilian clubs and the gogo bars. Hell half the time it was free and I'd give the girls 'cab money', although a fair amount. And lastly, bareback is the norm there, and is fairly important to me. I barebacked over 100 girls there with never an issue. I do take pharmaceutical preventatives while I'm there.

I speak excellent Spanish. I lived in South America for a few years in my 20's. So my question is. If I go to Colombia, what city gets me closest to this type of environment? Somewhere that's a party town, with options to go out to bars and clubs and try my hand, and then backup paid options at girl bars. I also enjoy bringing the girls back to my hotel. I'm not really a 'go upstairs and bang one out' kinda guy. Walking around and chilling during the day. And, if bareback options are non-existent, I might just have to keep waiting for PH to open.

Unrelated but semi on-topic: My friend (a girl) went to Colombia a couple of months ago, got off the plane, tested positive for Covid, and was locked in a hotel room for 2 weeks. Got out, went straight to the airport and back to the US. Not ideal. I don't think she was vaccinated though.

[QUOTE=JohnHancock11;2629229]I was vaccinated in May. Exposed at the end of July and tested positive in less than 48 hours after exposure. My case was very mild. Just wanted to point out you can test positive very quickly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2629508]Hey fellas, have been scanning through back posts but still have some questions.

Unrelated but semi on-topic: My friend (a girl) went to Colombia a couple of months ago, got off the plane, tested positive for Covid, and was locked in a hotel room for 2 weeks. Got out, went straight to the airport and back to the US. Not ideal. I don't think she was vaccinated though.[/QUOTE]That would be a nightmare being locked in a room in quarantine in Colombia for two weeks. Has me seriously rethinking my upcoming trip. Or maybe getting the Booster shot beforehand to (hopefully) lesson my chances.

I test positive in the US, no big deal. I can work from home, play piano, and do what I want inside my large comfortable condo.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2629265]I am posting this in the Colombia section because air travel is read more here, and it is the first time I have travelled with the new USA restrictions on testing.

So I meet my Colombian gal in Cancun, and the shootings there have done absolutely nothing to slow people down. The Cancun airport is busier now than I have seen it in years. We are back to pre-Covid levels.

Spirit told me the lines were long and to get to the airport 3 hours early. I just needed a boarding pass as I was carrying on, and they would not let me get it online. I tried the computer terminal and it would not work and now I was stuck in this God awful long line at check-in. I thought I would miss my flight, but I then checked the Spirit Airlines app on my phone and I saw a boarding pass there (Thank God) and then went to security. I have been able to check in online internationally with United no problem but have had shitty luck with the other airlines.

So even though I had my boarding pass, I figured that they would check my passport and Covid test at the gate, and they did. What surprised me is that even though I got my test done within 24 hours of departure, the Spirit employee insisted on seeing my vaccine card. I showed her a photo of the card that I was on my phone at the gate, and she was happy and all was well.

So we can debate the vaccine card but the airlines have IMO been unfairly burdened with this vaccine crap, and I think they are worried and can be fined for letting people into the country who do not have the test or do not have a vaccine card. So you may be in a position where you have a choice between being vaccinated and not travelling. It has never been like this before.

I am wondering if the people using fake cards are going to be caught because the federal government is recording who has been vaccinated and who has not been. It seems like it would be super easy to catch people using fake cards. As of now, I just had to show the test and the card, so it would be possible to fake both, but I just do not know how long that is going to last.

I will say the social distancing rules have gotten stupid. In the photo, you can see how crowded things were. The seats were interesting. Every other seat is forbidden to be used because of social distancing. As you can see, two women are sitting next to each other, breaking the rules.

It is not in the photo but if you were to look past them, there were empty seats marked off as not in use due to social distancing and there were people standing cramped next to each other.

This social distancing crap is not working anymore. If you made people do that, the lines would have been out of the terminal. Cancun has gone from one terminal open now to three, and they are all packed.

I got through Mexican customs in an hour. It took her two. When she got back to Bogota, once again, she was in line for 2 hours. In the USA, customs lines were the same this time for me.

But things have changed and IMO they have changed now for the worst.[/QUOTE]I flew home from Cancun on Wed. The airport was a mad house. Flew United and there was almost no line to check a bag at around 2 pm. Had premier access and waited like 1 minute. I saw the mess at Spirit and was so glad I don't fly them. When I got to security check they asked me where was some stupid tiny health form from Mexico with tiny print you could barely read. Said I had to fill it out right there even though I jumped through all of United's covid hoops. So I had to go back and fill the damn thing out and then show it to them but they didn't even look at it or take it from me. Typical Mexico stuff. I have global entry so got through US customs in less then 5 minutes.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2629508]I speak excellent Spanish. I lived in South America for a few years in my 20's. So my question is. If I go to Colombia, what city gets me closest to this type of environment? Somewhere that's a party town, with options to go out to bars and clubs and try my hand, and then backup paid options at girl bars. I also enjoy bringing the girls back to my hotel. I'm not really a 'go upstairs and bang one out' kinda guy. Walking around and chilling during the day. And, if bareback options are non-existent, I might just have to keep waiting for PH to open.[/QUOTE]Well I bought a condo in the AC before the pandemic and before I completed my SRRV, so you know I fucking pissed about the country being closed for so long. I'm done, going to toss my tenant, sell the place and never go back. I can't do any of that until they open the fucking door! My first time in Colombia and I kick my own ass daily for not coming sooner. I'm in Cali. This place has none of the walking street vibe your describing, but there is literally pussy everywhere. I think you want Cartagena, but who wants those prices! If your a Spanish speaker why even go to Asia? Filipinas have bodies like boy scouts. The only reason I really kept returning is because I'm was lazy to learn Spanish, but since I see what I have missed- pimsleur here I come.

Oof that really sucks about the condo. I've had thoughts of doing that. I love Angeles City. The condo complex 1 Euphoria looks amazing and is recently completed but nobody to fill it with.

We have different taste in women. Petite asian girls are my jam. There's a youtube guy who films himself walking around red light areas in Colombia and I'm generally not impressed with the girls. Very thick, with a few exceptions. I'm sure there would be enough exceptions for me to have a good time though.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2629594]Well I bought a condo in the AC before the pandemic and before I completed my SRRV, so you know I fucking pissed about the country being closed for so long. I'm done, going to toss my tenant, sell the place and never go back. I can't do any of that until they open the fucking door! My first time in Colombia and I kick my own ass daily for not coming sooner. I'm in Cali. This place has none of the walking street vibe your describing, but there is literally pussy everywhere. I think you want Cartagena, but who wants those prices! If your a Spanish speaker why even go to Asia? Filipinas have bodies like boy scouts. The only reason I really kept returning is because I'm was lazy to learn Spanish, but since I see what I have missed- pimsleur here I come.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2629594]My first time in Colombia and I kick my own ass daily for not coming sooner. I'm in Cali. This place has none of the walking street vibe your describing, but there is literally pussy everywhere. I think you want Cartagena, but who wants those prices! If your a Spanish speaker why even go to Asia? Filipinas have bodies like boy scouts. The only reason I really kept returning is because I'm was lazy to learn Spanish, but since I see what I have missed- pimsleur here I come.[/QUOTE]LOL. Just like I say on the Sosua thread. Go somewhere else to see what a terrible mongering place Sosua really is. My first time on LatinAmericanCupid I said I got to learn some Spanish. Almost 17 years later and I have not looked back. Still on the site enjoying life.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2629594]The only reason I really kept returning is because I'm was lazy to learn Spanish, but since I see what I have missed- pimsleur here I come.[/QUOTE]LOL, Pimsleur won't get you too far. It's better than nothing, but that ain't much to say.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2629911]LOL, Pimsleur won't get you too far. It's better than nothing, but that ain't much to say.[/QUOTE]Pimsleur will get you to the bank and restaurant, and a nice hotel room with a balcony, if my memory serves me well. Haha.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2629926]Pimsleur will get you to the bank and restaurant, and a nice hotel room with a balcony, if my memory serves me well. Haha.[/QUOTE]Exactly! Like I said, not too far, LOL.

[QUOTE=Combo;2628840]The vaccines are only 90-95% effective, so you can definitely still get it. FWIW I'm not that worried about Covid itself -- I'm in good shape and not that old. But I am worried about a positive test keeping me quarantined in Colombia and missing two weeks of work and having to tell my boss I'm stuck in Colombia.[/QUOTE]My boss wasn't too happy when I informed him I would be gone an extra 2 weeks, but there wasn't anything he could do about it. The company put a policy in place at the beginning of the pandemic that any symptoms, you couldn't work until either testing negative or after 2 weeks, for people who refused to be tested.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2629799]Oof that really sucks about the condo. I've had thoughts of doing that. I love Angeles City. The condo complex 1 Euphoria looks amazing and is recently completed but nobody to fill it with.

We have different taste in women. Petite asian girls are my jam. There's a youtube guy who films himself walking around red light areas in Colombia and I'm generally not impressed with the girls. Very thick, with a few exceptions. I'm sure there would be enough exceptions for me to have a good time though.[/QUOTE]My ideal girl is 5' 4" or shorter and 100# or less. I never need to go outside of that range in Colombia, although occasionally I'll get an urge for something different. You aren't going to learn much from YouTube videos.

1898; Kill all over 10.

1964-1973, bombing a poor country fighting for it's freedom for a century back to the stoneage.

Generally speaking, arrogant sons of bitches, only worse are people of of the city that God forgot; Buenos Aires.

1990-today, political and military suicidal invasion, overstays on extremely poor countries.

Preferred number 1 country of Colombianas, United Arab Emirates; (hooker paradise todays Gomorrah).

Join forces then, the ugliness of humanity!

We will fight you back, be sure of that, FXXX gringos and putas!

Sometimes it snows in April. The Good side. We can win. Never forget! Never forget!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2630798]My boss wasn't too happy when I informed him I would be gone an extra 2 weeks, but there wasn't anything he could do about it. The company put a policy in place at the beginning of the pandemic that any symptoms, you couldn't work until either testing negative or after 2 weeks, for people who refused to be tested.[/QUOTE]Hey thanks for your response JjBee. I remember you reporting that you tested positive while in MDE. Would you mind telling what you had to do after the test? Did you have to change apartments? Were you allowed to walk around outside? Did you have to test negative before you could leave the country? Heck, how did you go about getting food to eat? Just order in from Rappi?

[QUOTE=Combo;2631295]Hey thanks for your response JjBee. I remember you reporting that you tested positive while in MDE. Would you mind telling what you had to do after the test? Did you have to change apartments? Were you allowed to walk around outside? Did you have to test negative before you could leave the country? Heck, how did you go about getting food to eat? Just order in from Rappi?[/QUOTE]I was actually in Bogota when I tested positive, in a hotel by the airport. I didn't try to walk around outside and for most of the quarantine didn't feel like getting out. For about 10 days just walking to the bathroom was a struggle.

For food I ordered from the hotel restaurant. They bagged everything up, put it on a cart parked blocking my door and stood across the hall until I retrieved the food.

Before returning to the US I had to get a certificate of recovery, because you can test positive for up to 3 months after getting infected. I found a medical service online and they sent a doctor to my hotel room to check me out and give me the certificate. Cost was 150 k. Once I had that I was able to get out. At the airport I had to show both the certificate and the positive test result.

The hotel wouldn't even allow anyone in to clean the room. Instead they dropped off a crate with cleaners, sheets, towels, sanitizing wipes and masks.

The hotel was fabulous. Every day the manager would call to ask how I was feeling, and whenever I ordered room service they would ask how I felt. They even put a little handmade get well card in with my food. Without even asking, as soon as I informed them I needed to quarantine they dropped the room price from $71 to $59 per night.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2629508]Hey fellas, have been scanning through back posts but still have some questions. I was going to The Philippines twice a year for 3 years and loved it, but my patience is running out on its reopening. I love it there for a few reasons. It's cheap as hell. The girls are petite. My type. I'm a good looking, tall fit youngish white guy and it's like shooting fish in a barrel, in the civilian clubs and the gogo bars. Hell half the time it was free and I'd give the girls 'cab money', although a fair amount. And lastly, bareback is the norm there, and is fairly important to me. I barebacked over 100 girls there with never an issue. I do take pharmaceutical preventatives while I'm there.

I speak excellent Spanish. I lived in South America for a few years in my 20's. So my question is. If I go to Colombia, what city gets me closest to this type of environment? Somewhere that's a party town, with options to go out to bars and clubs and try my hand, and then backup paid options at girl bars. I also enjoy bringing the girls back to my hotel. I'm not really a 'go upstairs and bang one out' kinda guy. Walking around and chilling during the day. And, if bareback options are non-existent, I might just have to keep waiting for PH to open.
[/QUOTE]Speaking as someone with experience in both countries I have bad news- you will find it a real challenge to get anything beyond an uncovered blowjob in Colombia. Some cities are worse than others- steer clear of Bogota. A fellow ISG monger had pretty good luck getting BBFS this past summer in Medellin, but it was mostly with SA girls that often flaked or otherwise required an inordinate amount of BS and wasted time. There really is nothing like AC for getting that hot raw, CIP. Thailand is much much better than South America, but doesn't quite match. The Medellin thread is full of Medellin lovers who will talk it up big time, but they generally like fat ass girls or just have never been to SEA and have no means of comparison.

So many guys in the Colombia forums just shrug at my need for BBBJ and BBFS-having been conditioned to do without for so long I suppose. I'm glad you have the same feeling about it I do.

I'm headed back to Rio in a couple of weeks and then more than likely Thailand for the summer. Philippines just doesn't seem to have their act together- when do you think you will make it back there?

I saw a story last night that they are having problems with the Check Mig form and are temporarily not requiring the online form be filled out. However, until it's fixed, they are using the paper forms again and recommend arriving at the airport 3 hours early to deal with the line at Migracion.

[URL]https://www.larepublica.co/economia/migracion-colombia-suspende-exigencia-de-check-mig-por-fallas-en-el-sistema-3268473[/URL]

[QUOTE=Frogg;2628805]To return to US without a Covid test, all you have to do is fly to a Mexican border city and cross into US by vehicle or foot and continue to your destination. Mexico does not require a Covid test to enter neither flying nor by land, and US does not require test when entering by land. Tijuana is ideal since you gain easy entrance to US from the airport via CrossBorderXpress exclusive to air passengers who land in Tijuana airport (I don't know if other border cities have similar crossing). Just make sure you go the right way after unboaring plane, once I took a wrong turn, missed CrossBorderXpress, went into the general area and was not permited re-entry to access CrossBorderExpress and had to go to the regular crossing, took a brutal three hours.[/QUOTE]I just took a PCR, and does anyone know if the antigen is sufficient to return? Some guy posted here (I can't find it, or just to lazy) that he tested positive, and bolted to Tijuana to cross at the border. How is that possible because the clinic wanted my itinerary, passport info, address and vax card info. How did he leave? I fully expect the health dept. To show up at my door, or snatch me up if I leave if I test positive.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2631358]I was actually in Bogota when I tested positive, in a hotel by the airport. I didn't try to walk around outside and for most of the quarantine didn't feel like getting out. For about 10 days just walking to the bathroom was a struggle.

For food I ordered from the hotel restaurant. They bagged everything up, put it on a cart parked blocking my door and stood across the hall until I retrieved the food.

Before returning to the US I had to get a certificate of recovery, because you can test positive for up to 3 months after getting infected. I found a medical service online and they sent a doctor to my hotel room to check me out and give me the certificate. Cost was 150 k. Once I had that I was able to get out. At the airport I had to show both the certificate and the positive test result.

The hotel wouldn't even allow anyone in to clean the room. Instead they dropped off a crate with cleaners, sheets, towels, sanitizing wipes and masks.

The hotel was fabulous. Every day the manager would call to ask how I was feeling, and whenever I ordered room service they would ask how I felt. They even put a little handmade get well card in with my food. Without even asking, as soon as I informed them I needed to quarantine they dropped the room price from $71 to $59 per night.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2631358]I was actually in Bogota when I tested positive, in a hotel by the airport. I didn't try to walk around outside and for most of the quarantine didn't feel like getting out. For about 10 days just walking to the bathroom was a struggle.

For food I ordered from the hotel restaurant. They bagged everything up, put it on a cart parked blocking my door and stood across the hall until I retrieved the food.

Before returning to the US I had to get a certificate of recovery, because you can test positive for up to 3 months after getting infected. I found a medical service online and they sent a doctor to my hotel room to check me out and give me the certificate. Cost was 150 k. Once I had that I was able to get out. At the airport I had to show both the certificate and the positive test result.

The hotel wouldn't even allow anyone in to clean the room. Instead they dropped off a crate with cleaners, sheets, towels, sanitizing wipes and masks.

The hotel was fabulous. Every day the manager would call to ask how I was feeling, and whenever I ordered room service they would ask how I felt. They even put a little handmade get well card in with my food. Without even asking, as soon as I informed them I needed to quarantine they dropped the room price from $71 to $59 per night.[/QUOTE]BBFS can be done. I managed to get 3 on my first trip this year but it was allot of duds form the ones I wanted. I found it to be a certain age range on the apps. Anything over 25 will give trouble because they are on hardcore puta mode. On my second trip I didn't even have to ask them when I told them I was back, they already knew. On my third now and it's rinse and repeat.

Just make sure they show up with a clean test.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2631743]BBFS can be done. I managed to get 3 on my first trip this year but it was allot of duds form the ones I wanted. I found it to be a certain age range on the apps. Anything over 25 will give trouble because they are on hardcore puta mode. On my second trip I didn't even have to ask them when I told them I was back, they already knew. On my third now and it's rinse and repeat.

Just make sure they show up with a clean test.[/QUOTE]If you can share some BBFS girls with me, I would really appreciate that brother. I would contribute to the boards by sharing my reviews of them I'm going to Colombia in January and want to have some really openminded experiences. Thank you!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2629884]LOL. Just like I say on the Sosua thread. Go somewhere else to see what a terrible mongering place Sosua really is. My first time on LatinAmericanCupid I said I got to learn some Spanish. Almost 17 years later and I have not looked back. Still on the site enjoying life.[/QUOTE]I bought a girl a beer in Sosua and she acted like she owned me. Went away in a huff. That was 2007. Colombian Cupid has not impressed at all. Hotties I aim for don't reply and I get grandmas hundreds of miles away making a play for the Gunz. Yeah, I still got it! Tinder is my honey trap, joven single mommies are so thirsty!

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2631643]I just took a PCR, and does anyone know if the antigen is sufficient to return? Some guy posted here (I can't find it, or just to lazy) that he tested positive, and bolted to Tijuana to cross at the border. How is that possible because the clinic wanted my itinerary, passport info, address and vax card info. How did he leave? I fully expect the health dept. To show up at my door, or snatch me up if I leave if I test positive.[/QUOTE]Antigen is sufficient to return to the Yew Ess. The guy you referred to tested positive at the airport and not at a clinic, so that was the difference.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2631643]I just took a PCR, and does anyone know if the antigen is sufficient to return? [/QUOTE]An antigen test is sufficient to return to the US.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2631374]Speaking as someone with experience in both countries I have bad news- you will find it a real challenge to get anything beyond an uncovered blowjob in Colombia. Some cities are worse than others- steer clear of Bogota. A fellow ISG monger had pretty good luck getting BBFS this past summer in Medellin, but it was mostly with SA girls that often flaked or otherwise required an inordinate amount of BS and wasted time. There really is nothing like AC for getting that hot raw, CIP. Thailand is much much better than South America, but doesn't quite match. The Medellin thread is full of Medellin lovers who will talk it up big time, but they generally like fat ass girls or just have never been to SEA and have no means of comparison.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that post. Hopefully it will discourage some of the SEA mongers from going to Medellin.

Does anyone know where I can get a PCR test for Covid in Cartagena? The US gov't list has dead links, some live, but their websites don't list Cartagena. Thanks in advance.

Might be a good idea to have an N95 mask when transiting airports anywhere. As I was leaving Cali one huge douche checking passports / boarding passes decided he was a mask expert and would not allow me to go on to immigration. Mine was black and looked quite similar to others. I had to go to the pharmacy to buy a POS paper mask that was not N95, which did not even survive the plane ride before the string broke.

From the CDC website:

"Travel Requirements have changed. Starting December 6, all air passengers, regardless of vaccination status, must show a negative COVID-19 test taken no more than 1 day before travel to the United States. ".

They don't specify if it is 24 hours before travel, or anytime during the day before travel. Hopefully, it is like the prior 3-day requirement when it was anytime during the previous 3 days, not 72 hours.

Biden advisors just trying to exert more control over the people. Here is what he read from his teleprompter "We're going to fight this variant with science and speed, not chaos and confusion". That is a bunch of BS. Why is he not requiring tests of people crossing the Southern border?

I am trying to fill the check mig form. When I select origin, no option to select USA. Any idea?

Also what happens if I don't fill this. Would there be any issue in boarding? Or extra time at BOG airport?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2633617]Why is he not requiring tests of people crossing the Southern border?[/QUOTE]I think it is bcos when you cross a border by air you are a risk to fellow passengers in the airport, taxies, buses, plane, restaurants etc. But when you cross a border in your own car, you are a risk to no one. The idea is to lower the risk of infection to fellow passengers. I could be wrong of course, just my idea.

[QUOTE=SamPeter71;2633643]I am trying to fill the check mig form. When I select origin, no option to select USA. Any idea?

Also what happens if I don't fill this. Would there be any issue in boarding? Or extra time at BOG airport?[/QUOTE]It's because the list is translated from Spanish. Look for United States in the "E's", for Estados Unidos.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2633617]From the CDC website:

"Travel Requirements have changed. Starting December 6, all air passengers, regardless of vaccination status, must show a negative COVID-19 test taken no more than 1 day before travel to the United States. ".

They don't specify if it is 24 hours before travel, or anytime during the day before travel. Hopefully, it is like the prior 3-day requirement when it was anytime during the previous 3 days, not 72 hours.

Biden advisors just trying to exert more control over the people. Here is what he read from his teleprompter "We're going to fight this variant with science and speed, not chaos and confusion". That is a bunch of BS. Why is he not requiring tests of people crossing the Southern border?[/QUOTE]I can think of a few reasons.

1. Commercial traffic. Many of those trucks cross the border several times each day. The delays would grind commercial transport to a halt.

2. Many of the people crossing, cross daily, for work, shopping or other business. At busy border crossings it's unlikely enough testing capacity is available.

3. Incubation period. There's a delay between exposure and when a person will test positive. With a high percentage of land border crossings by people who have been out of the country less than a day, testing wouldn't be very effective.

Curious why you're only concerned about the southern border? There's a northern border as well and a lot of people are crossing it every day.

Look for Estados Unidos.

[QUOTE=SamPeter71;2633643]I am trying to fill the check mig form. When I select origin, no option to select USA. Any idea?

Also what happens if I don't fill this. Would there be any issue in boarding? Or extra time at BOG airport?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamPeter71;2633643]I am trying to fill the check mig form. When I select origin, no option to select USA. Any idea?

Also what happens if I don't fill this. Would there be any issue in boarding? Or extra time at BOG airport?[/QUOTE]Look for the Spanish version of "United States", which is "Estados Unidos".

I think it depends on the airline if you would have an issue boarding, but almost assuredly you will have an issue going through immigration in Colombia.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2633689]I think it is bcos when you cross a border by air you are a risk to fellow passengers in the airport, taxies, buses, plane, restaurants etc. But when you cross a border in your own car, you are a risk to no one. The idea is to lower the risk of infection to fellow passengers. I could be wrong of course, just my idea.[/QUOTE]I understand you said it's just your idea, but if that were the reason, why isn't everyone who gets on a flight, regardless of origin, required to have the test. It's the same risk.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2633740]I understand you said it's just your idea, but if that were the reason, why isn't everyone who gets on a flight, regardless of origin, required to have the test. It's the same risk.[/QUOTE]LOL. You think Brandon knows the answer to that? It is going to be 3 more years of shit not making sense.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2633740]why isn't everyone who gets on a flight, regardless of origin, required to have the test.[/QUOTE]I thought that was what you said the new rule is? " Starting December 6, all air passengers, regardless of vaccination status, must show a negative COVID-19 test taken no more than 1 day before travel to the United States. ". ".

[QUOTE=JustTK;2633752]I thought that was what you said the new rule is? " Starting December 6, all air passengers, regardless of vaccination status, must show a negative COVID-19 test taken no more than 1 day before travel to the United States. ". ".[/QUOTE]He means why don't you have to do any testing if you are on a plane domestically in the USA.

In the infinite wisdom of the brain dead administration, they force law abiding citizens with the where-with-all of being health conscious and being able to wash their hands and afford a plane ticket to now get tested regardless of Vaccination status, are now be forced into a tight 24 hour window to find a lab that will do the test and get the results back to you before your flight leaves you stranded. However, millions of illegal criminals, who have traveled months without a roof over their heads and no testing of any sort, limited hand washing at best, are dispersed far and wide in our country to help spread the covid virus. But that's OK.

I never thought a political party in The United States would do this much damage to our society for the sole purpose of adding liberals to the Democratic voting roles. Their veiled excuse of caring for these people is laughable. I have made hundreds of trips to South and Latin America over the last 2+ decades and love the Latin people and culture. I have helped many of the less fortunate, more than any one of the hypocrites in the current administration. History will judge these liberal scoundrels harshly.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2633763]In the infinite wisdom of the brain dead administration, they force law abiding citizens with the where-with-all of being health conscious and being able to wash their hands and afford a plane ticket to now get tested regardless of Vaccination status, are now be forced into a tight 24 hour window to find a lab that will do the test and get the results back to you before your flight leaves you stranded. However, millions of illegal criminals, who have traveled months without a roof over their heads and no testing of any sort, limited hand washing at best, are dispersed far and wide in our country to help spread the covid virus. But that's OK.

I never thought a political party in The United States would do this much damage to our society for the sole purpose of adding liberals to the Democratic voting roles. Their veiled excuse of caring for these people is laughable. I have made hundreds of trips to South and Latin America over the last 2+ decades and love the Latin people and culture. I have helped many of the less fortunate, more than any one of the hypocrites in the current administration. History will judge these liberal scoundrels harshly.[/QUOTE]I can explain most of this. However, it's unlikely everyone will understand.

1. Washing your hands is primarily to protect yourself. Unless you work in healthcare or food service, the probability you will infect someone because you haven't washed your hands is low. Washing your hands reduces the risk that you'll stick a contaminated finger in your nose. So whether you wash your hands 20 times a day or once a week doesn't matter.

2. Masks are worn to protect others. Depending on the mask and how well it fits it might give you some protection but that's not the primary purpose.

3. Vaccination reduces the risk you will become infected. It doesn't prevent infection. It also reduces the risk of serious illness or death.

4. Testing works in conjunction with 1, 2 and 3. It's to identify people who are potentially contagious, so they can be isolated to prevent further spread.

5. It's not about you. You might be the perfect law abiding, vaccinated citizen with clean hands. The guy sitting next to you on the plane might not be any of those things. Just recently we had a post about a guy who tested positive, got on a plane, flew to Tijuana and walked across the border because not infecting others was inconvenient.

5. There is a delay between becoming infected and being contagious. There's also a delay between becoming infected and testing positive. Shortening the testing window means less contagious people are getting on the crowded planes or waiting in lines in crowded airports. If a person is infected, but tests negative within 24 hours of their flight, there's a good chance they'll be away from the crowds before they are infectious. If an infected person tests negative 3 days before their flight, chances are they will be contagious before they board the plane.

Concerning the "millions of illegal criminals", I can't help you with that. They only exist within the twisted imaginations of some very disturbed people. However, if you're talking about the thousands of immigrants and refugees, I have some good news. If they've been traveling for months, and they've been exposed to Covid, chances are they either died along the way, or recovered and are no longer contagious. If you're planning to let one of them stick a finger in your nose, ask them to wash their hands first.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2633763]In the infinite wisdom of the brain dead administration, they force law abiding citizens with the where-with-all of being health conscious and being able to wash their hands and afford a plane ticket to now get tested regardless of Vaccination status, are now be forced into a tight 24 hour window to find a lab that will do the test and get the results back to you before your flight leaves you stranded.[/QUOTE]I kind of knew the tight 24 hrs window was coming when I realized the difference since I came back to the US from Colombia 8 months ago vs Brazil 2 months ago. They kept tightening up the window. 8 months ago, it was just 3 days no matter the vaccination status, and 2 months ago, it was vaccinated is 3 day and non vac is 1 day. I didn't want to take my chances when I boarded the plane back to the US (I saw a dude got denied when he did his test within 2 days while I was boarding the plane in Colombia), so I took the test within 24 hrs even though I am vaccinated (had to do to see Cristo Redeemer) haha. Now I guess vaccination status doesn't mean anything anymore, does that mean no more vaccination discrimination? LOL.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2633808]I kind of knew the tight 24 hrs window was coming when I realized the difference since I came back to the US from Colombia 8 months ago vs Brazil 2 months ago. They kept tightening up the window. 8 months ago, it was just 3 days no matter the vaccination status, and 2 months ago, it was vaccinated is 3 day and non vac is 1 day. I didn't want to take my chances when I boarded the plane back to the US (I saw a dude got denied when he did his test within 2 days while I was boarding the plane in Colombia), so I took the test within 24 hrs even though I am vaccinated (had to do to see Cristo Redeemer) haha. Now I guess vaccination status doesn't mean anything anymore, does that mean no more vaccination discrimination? LOL.[/QUOTE]And getting 2 Pfizer shots and a booster was bullshit. Brandon and Fauci have lied to us since the beginning. I now need 3 vaccine shots and a one day test to enter my country. But criminals can come and go as they please. How did these two s#it for brains ever get in charge of anything.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2633795]I can explain most of this. However, it's unlikely everyone will understand.

1. Washing your hands is primarily to protect yourself. Unless you work in healthcare or food service, the probability you will infect someone because you haven't washed your hands is low. Washing your hands reduces the risk that you'll stick a contaminated finger in your nose. So whether you wash your hands 20 times a day or once a week doesn't matter.

2. Masks are worn to protect others. Depending on the mask and how well it fits it might give you some protection but that's not the primary purpose.

3. Vaccination reduces the risk you will become infected. It doesn't prevent infection. It also reduces the risk of serious illness or death.

4. Testing works in conjunction with 1, 2 and 3. It's to identify people who are potentially contagious, so they can be isolated to prevent further spread.

5. It's not about you. You might be the perfect law abiding, vaccinated citizen with clean hands. The guy sitting next to you on the plane might not be any of those things. Just recently we had a post about a guy who tested positive, got on a plane, flew to Tijuana and walked across the border because not infecting others was inconvenient.

5. There is a delay between becoming infected and being contagious. There's also a delay between becoming infected and testing positive. Shortening the testing window means less contagious people are getting on the crowded planes or waiting in lines in crowded airports. If a person is infected, but tests negative within 24 hours of their flight, there's a good chance they'll be away from the crowds before they are infectious. If an infected person tests negative 3 days before their flight, chances are they will be contagious before they board the plane.

Concerning the "millions of illegal criminals", I can't help you with that. They only exist within the twisted imaginations of some very disturbed people. However, if you're talking about the thousands of immigrants and refugees, I have some good news. If they've been traveling for months, and they've been exposed to Covid, chances are they either died along the way, or recovered and are no longer contagious. If you're planning to let one of them stick a finger in your nose, ask them to wash their hands first.[/QUOTE]Alas, someone who has read some actual science. Cheers.

Not sure where to post this, but I'll just post it here.

How would you guys split up your time between Medellin, Bogota, and Cartagena if you were going over to Colombia for 2 weeks. 16 days to be exact? I'm a serious monger and want to bang as many hot girls every day that I'm there LOL I was planning to stay mostly in Medellin, but open to suggestions.

I will be out in Colombia from January 1st until 16th.

Would love to hear your thoughts. I'm liking the street girls scene in Santa Fe, Bogota, and not liking the situation going on in Cartagena with the tight restrictions over freelance girls being in the Clock Tower area. I figure all the hot girls are in the side streets or in the clubs.

Looking to hear see what you guys think.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2633795]I can explain most of this. However, it's unlikely everyone will understand.[/QUOTE]The problem is not that not everyone will understand. The problem is that many (a large minority) have no desire to understand as the quote below can attest to. If antivaxxers had their way during the hugely successful vaccination programs of the 20th century, we would still live with smallpox, polio, mumps and measles.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2633900]And getting 2 Pfizer shots and a booster was bullshit. Brandon and Fauci have lied to us since the beginning. I now need 3 vaccine shots and a one day test to enter my country. But criminals can come and go as they please. How did these two s#it for brains ever get in charge of anything.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I was in Cali and I got some good and bad experiences. I met only black girls. I like only regular girls, I don't like pros. Even if I would have liked to meet some white girls and stay with her for a week or more, I did not succeed because I am old and I had to pay a lot of the money compared to costs of Cali.

I didn't like all this very much.

If you know other Colombian cities well, could you tell me if Cali is the best Colombian city to meet regular girls and if Cali is the easiest city to meet them? Or are there some other cities better than Cali?

Thank you!

For anyone confused about the more restrictive Covid testing requirements which began today, here's some help.

You're required to get tested within 1 day of your flight. If you are flying out at 10 pm on Wednesday, you have to be tested anytime Tuesday or Wednesday, before your flight. If your outbound flight is very early morning, the distinction doesn't matter much. However, if you fly late at night you have almost a 2 day window to meet the requirement.

Since there are plenty of labs giving results in less than 1 hour, this shouldn't be an issue.

[QUOTE=Blingz;2634065]Not sure where to post this, but I'll just post it here.

How would you guys split up your time between Medellin, Bogota, and Cartagena if you were going over to Colombia for 2 weeks. 16 days to be exact? I'm a serious monger and want to bang as many hot girls every day that I'm there LOL I was planning to stay mostly in Medellin, but open to suggestions.

I will be out in Colombia from January 1st until 16th.

Would love to hear your thoughts. I'm liking the street girls scene in Santa Fe, Bogota, and not liking the situation going on in Cartagena with the tight restrictions over freelance girls being in the Clock Tower area. I figure all the hot girls are in the side streets or in the clubs.

Looking to hear see what you guys think.[/QUOTE]The girls are still in CTG they are not just at the clock tower. All the girls moved to the 1 square block of Space / Dulce and Delirium, yes, even the trannies too so be careful if that's not your thing. But at random times cops come down on bikes blasting sirens forcing everyone to clear the sidewalks. This is where most the girls run into Space, Dulce is picky about which girls they let in since their target audience is guys who like fake ass and tits and that's mostly the type of girls they let in.

Also, many of my Chicas have bene telling me, this is only going on for Christmas so families can enjoy the decorations, after Christmas things will return to normal as 75% of tourists come there for sex, even the married man who brought his family along with him. One chica told me if they stop the girls from working CTG would loose a ton of tourist dollars and they will have no propose of building a bigger airport (the translator app must have translated wrong because I have no idea why CTG needs a second Airport).

[QUOTE=Nypher;2635045]The girls are still in CTG they are not just at the clock tower. All the girls moved to the 1 square block of Space / Dulce and Delirium, yes, even the trannies too so be careful if that's not your thing. But at random times cops come down on bikes blasting sirens forcing everyone to clear the sidewalks. This is where most the girls run into Space, Dulce is picky about which girls they let in since their target audience is guys who like fake ass and tits and that's mostly the type of girls they let in.

Also, many of my Chicas have bene telling me, this is only going on for Christmas so families can enjoy the decorations, after Christmas things will return to normal as 75% of tourists come there for sex, even the married man who brought his family along with him. One chica told me if they stop the girls from working CTG would loose a ton of tourist dollars and they will have no propose of building a bigger airport (the translator app must have translated wrong because I have no idea why CTG needs a second Airport).[/QUOTE]I hope the chicas are right! Ctg is one of my favorite cities!

Colombia Requires COVID-19 Vaccinations for Travel to Colombia.

Colombia will begin to require COVID-19 vaccinations for travel to Colombia starting on December 14 for those 18-years old or older.

The President of Colombia, Iváand Duque announced this Monday that starting on December 14,2021, a vaccination certificate will be required to enter Colombia for people over 18 years of age.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2635192]The President of Colombia, Ivand Duque announced this Monday that starting on December 14,2021, a vaccination certificate will be required to enter Colombia for people over 18 years of age.[/QUOTE]The president said, "Cuando una persona tiene una prueba negativa, eso no quiere decir que de pronto no pueda tener el virus. " When a person has a negative test it does not mean they will not suddenly have the virus.

??? neither does having a vaccination card.

[URL]https://m.elcolombiano.com/colombia/salud/viajeros-internacionales-necesitan-carnet-de-vacunacion-anticovid-para-entrar-a-colombia-BE16124234[/URL]

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2635192]Colombia Requires COVID-19 Vaccinations for Travel to Colombia.

Colombia will begin to require COVID-19 vaccinations for travel to Colombia starting on December 14 for those 18-years old or older.

The President of Colombia, Ivand Duque announced this Monday that starting on December 14,2021, a vaccination certificate will be required to enter Colombia for people over 18 years of age.[/QUOTE]This is a trend among countries. I expect that it will become the norm for international travel for most of the world. It now is the standard for all visitors into the US, into Canada, now Colombia. And many other countries.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2635264]This is a trend among countries. I expect that it will become the norm for international travel for most of the world. It now is the standard for all visitors into the US, into Canada, now Colombia. And many other countries.[/QUOTE]I anticipated this, and half the reason I got vaccinated was for the travel / political reasons, but that does not mean this is a smart move for Colombia. I said the travel ban was stupid and this is from the health minister in the article from Mr. E.

Health Minister Fernando Ruiz spoke out against canceling flights to prevent the arrival of the variant, this measure seeks to restrict the entry of unvaccinated from abroad. "The speed of the variants always exceeds the detection capacity. This is why border closures are so ineffective. Today the poorest countries tend to close for political reasons, not technical, "Ruiz had written through his Twitter account on December 2.

End of quote.

I agree with you that it is in vogue to do this, but I will tell you that Mexico will never require vaccination, and President Duque has said tourism will be Colombia's next oil. It is not farfetched in that Cancun generates $20 billion per year in tourism dollars, and Colombian oil varies but it is in the $10 billion a year area.

If you want tourists though, you do not make it harder on them. Hell, Mexico is way easier than Colombia and Cancun was fucking packed when I went a few weeks ago even after the murders in tourist areas.

I saw an Indian wedding at my Cancun hotel. There were a 100 people in probably 50 rooms dancing outside and spending huge cash on food, drinks, and entertainment. If just one person in the whole party was not vaccinated, they could not have that event in Colombia.

How much did the travel ban cost Colombia? At least they admitted it was pointless. Now the question is how much is this vaccination card bit going to cost them? This is not showing leadership but following the crowd and being stupidly PC.

If you want tourism, you get money and improve infrastructure. In Peru, Mexico, and Ecuador, I rented a car and drove the highways always averaging 60 miles in hour. Hell, Mexico in some parts has better roads than the USA has.

I drove halfway between Medellin and Bogota and averaged 25 MPH. Seriously. And not only that the roads were dangerous to boot. In Cartagena, Bocagrande has two points where you enter into the peninsula like area, and that road is seemingly always flooded and causes traffic jams on the way to the nicest part of the city.

In Mexico, they are building a railway connecting Tulum and Cancun and putting in an airport in Tulum. In Cartagena, they are shooing away the hookers from the clock tower. Which approach do you think is going to win?

[QUOTE=Nypher;2635045]The girls are still in CTG they are not just at the clock tower. All the girls moved to the 1 square block of Space / Dulce and Delirium, yes, even the trannies too so be careful if that's not your thing. But at random times cops come down on bikes blasting sirens forcing everyone to clear the sidewalks. This is where most the girls run into Space, Dulce is picky about which girls they let in since their target audience is guys who like fake ass and tits and that's mostly the type of girls they let in.

Also, many of my Chicas have bene telling me, this is only going on for Christmas so families can enjoy the decorations, after Christmas things will return to normal as 75% of tourists come there for sex, even the married man who brought his family along with him. One chica told me if they stop the girls from working CTG would loose a ton of tourist dollars and they will have no propose of building a bigger airport (the translator app must have translated wrong because I have no idea why CTG needs a second Airport).[/QUOTE]Oh nice! Sounds good. Well I plan to mainly stay in Medellin and then I do like 3 days in Bogota and 3 days in Cartagena let's see. Can't wait.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2635337]I anticipated this, and half the reason I got vaccinated was for the travel / political reasons, but that does not mean this is a smart move for Colombia. I said the travel ban was stupid and this is from the health minister in the article from Mr. E.

Health Minister Fernando Ruiz spoke out against canceling flights to prevent the arrival of the variant, this measure seeks to restrict the entry of unvaccinated from abroad. "The speed of the variants always exceeds the detection capacity. This is why border closures are so ineffective. Today the poorest countries tend to close for political reasons, not technical, "Ruiz had written through his Twitter account on December 2.

End of quote.

I agree with you that it is in vogue to do this, but I will tell you that Mexico will never require vaccination, and President Duque has said tourism will be Colombia's next oil. It is not farfetched in that Cancun generates $20 billion per year in tourism dollars, and Colombian oil varies but it is in the $10 billion a year area.

If you want tourists though, you do not make it harder on them. Hell, Mexico is way easier than Colombia and Cancun was fucking packed when I went a few weeks ago even after the murders in tourist areas.

I saw an Indian wedding at my Cancun hotel. There were a 100 people in probably 50 rooms dancing outside and spending huge cash on food, drinks, and entertainment. If just one person in the whole party was not vaccinated, they could not have that event in Colombia.

How much did the travel ban cost Colombia? At least they admitted it was pointless. Now the question is how much is this vaccination card bit going to cost them? This is not showing leadership but following the crowd and being stupidly PC.

If you want tourism, you get money and improve infrastructure. In Peru, Mexico, and Ecuador, I rented a car and drove the highways always averaging 60 miles in hour. Hell, Mexico in some parts has better roads than the USA has.

I drove halfway between Medellin and Bogota and averaged 25 MPH. Seriously. And not only that the roads were dangerous to boot. In Cartagena, Bocagrande has two points where you enter into the peninsula like area, and that road is seemingly always flooded and causes traffic jams on the way to the nicest part of the city.

In Mexico, they are building a railway connecting Tulum and Cancun and putting in an airport in Tulum. In Cartagena, they are shooing away the hookers from the clock tower. Which approach do you think is going to win?[/QUOTE]It is not a flight ban, or a ban on tourists. It is just a vaccination requirement. And for many parts of the world you need to be vaccinated to get on a plane, so if the country you are going to requires it there is no difference. And I have to be fully vaccinated to get into the USA and many other places. So they are only doing what the US is already doing.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2635219]The president said, "Cuando una persona tiene una prueba negativa, eso no quiere decir que de pronto no pueda tener el virus. " When a person has a negative test it does not mean they will not suddenly have the virus.

??? neither does having a vaccination card.

[URL]https://m.elcolombiano.com/colombia/salud/viajeros-internacionales-necesitan-carnet-de-vacunacion-anticovid-para-entrar-a-colombia-BE16124234[/URL][/QUOTE]On Colombia's Ministry of Health (MinSalud), I saw this:

"El segundo grupo (extranjeros que no residen en Colombia sino que visitan el pais por turismo.) tiene que tener al menos una dosis de vacuna para poder entrar al pais tendran que tener una prueba PCR negativa 72 horas antes. ".

In a nutshell, they are saying that us foreigners must have a minimum of one dose of a vaccine [U]AND a negative PCR Covid Test taken 72 hours before[/U].

Am I interpreting it right that us foreigners ALSO need a negative PCR test to enter Colombia?

[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;2635409]In a nutshell, they are saying that us foreigners must have a minimum of one dose of a vaccine [U]AND a negative PCR Covid Test taken 72 hours before[/U].

Am I interpreting it right that us foreigners ALSO need a negative PCR test to enter Colombia?[/QUOTE]Yes. That makes more sense than just the card.

[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;2635409]On Colombia's Ministry of Health (MinSalud), I saw this:

"El segundo grupo (extranjeros que no residen en Colombia sino que visitan el pais por turismo.) tiene que tener al menos una dosis de vacuna para poder entrar al pais tendran que tener una prueba PCR negativa 72 horas antes. ".

In a nutshell, they are saying that us foreigners must have a minimum of one dose of a vaccine [U]AND a negative PCR Covid Test taken 72 hours before[/U].

Am I interpreting it right that us foreigners ALSO need a negative PCR test to enter Colombia?[/QUOTE]No, it is the test or the vaccine card.

[URL]http://www.news.cn/english/2021-12/08/c_1310357588.htm[/URL]

Travelers wishing to enter Colombia must present a negative COVID-19 PCR test or a vaccination certificate starting on Dec. 14, Health Minister Fernando Ruiz announced on Tuesday.

Here is the part that is confusing:

If you have been vaccinated less than 14 days before, you must also submit the PCR test 72 hours in advance.

So this marks the eighth change in Colombian entrance policies in the last 15 months. You know now that the Duque administration and Colombia is truly an American ally because they have done the unthinkable: they have made the CDC look reasonable.

Apologies if this is a read-the-fucking-thread thing, but I'm having a problem here that I haven't had traveling elsewhere: no ATMs will give me money. I put the card in, it asks me if I want to withdraw from savings or checking account (neither works), and then it says the transaction failed. I called JP Morgan Chase and they couldn't tell me anything. What gives? I had to get COP from one of those shitty currency exchanges using my cards.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2635337]I agree with you that it is in vogue to do this, but I will tell you that Mexico will never require vaccination, and President Duque has said tourism will be Colombia's next oil. It is not farfetched in that Cancun generates $20 billion per year in tourism dollars, and Colombian oil varies but it is in the $10 billion a year area.
[/QUOTE]Cancun is not Colombia. Cancun is heavily advertised, not just to average beach goers as a perfect vacation spot but to college kids having no hold barred, all you can drink, uninhibited sex vacation. Most people still view Colombia as a country with heavy crime rates with drugs and gangs.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2635520]Most people still view Colombia as a country with heavy crime rates with drugs and gangs.[/QUOTE]I am from the USA and most Americans that I know don't view Colombia any kind of way because they do not know anything about it. It might as well be Mexico as far as they are concerned. Most Americans break the world down to White, Black, Mexican, Chinese.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2635574]I am from the USA and most Americans that I know don't view Colombia any kind of way because they do not know anything about it. It might as well be Mexico as far as they are concerned. Most Americans break the world down to White, Black, Mexican, Chinese.[/QUOTE]I put your claim to the test nearly 5 years ago, before moving to Medellin for a year. I told everyone what I was going to do and almost everyone had the same response: "Colombia is very dangerous. " While very few knew much about it, everyone could differentiate between Colombia and Mexico.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2635574]Most Americans break the world down to White, Black, Mexican, Chinese.[/QUOTE]You're spot on, Mr. E.

Heading into Bogota on Saturday, then on to check out Frogg's recent discovery, Villavicencio. Been coming here since 1970, and Colombia's an always-exciting, wonderful place, filled with a colorful cast of great people.

Too bad so many Americans fear it so much. But, hey, better for the rest of us.

Happy hols to all.

Poly.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2635420]No, it is the test or the vaccine card.

[URL]http://www.news.cn/english/2021-12/08/c_1310357588.htm[/URL]

Travelers wishing to enter Colombia must present a negative COVID-19 PCR test or a vaccination certificate starting on Dec. 14, Health Minister Fernando Ruiz announced on Tuesday.

Here is the part that is confusing:

If you have been vaccinated less than 14 days before, you must also submit the PCR test 72 hours in advance.

So this marks the eighth change in Colombian entrance policies in the last 15 months. You know now that the Duque administration and Colombia is truly an American ally because they have done the unthinkable: they have made the CDC look reasonable.[/QUOTE]Hmmm not sure about your info, I saw this:

"Colombians, foreigners residing in Colombia, and diplomats and their families:

Pre-registration form of Migracióand Colombia with the data of your trip on the Check-Mig page before coming to Colombia. You must enter the following link: Check-Mig.

Vaccination card showing that they were vaccinated at least 14 days before the date of entry to the country.

If they have not been vaccinated, they can bring a PCR test performed 72 hours in advance and with a negative result.

Foreigners not residing in Colombia but visiting the country for tourism or business purposes:

Pre-registration form for Migracióand Colombia with your travel information on the Check-Mig page before coming to Colombia. You must enter the following link: Check-Mig.

Vaccination card showing that they were vaccinated at least 14 days before the date of entry to the country. It is accepted to have at least one dose.

They must bring a PCR test performed 72 hours in advance and with a negative result".

Looks like visitors will need both the vaccine and the test.

There are two separate categories of travelers.

[QUOTE=Implying1;2635432]Apologies if this is a read-the-fucking-thread thing, but I'm having a problem here that I haven't had traveling elsewhere: no ATMs will give me money. I put the card in, it asks me if I want to withdraw from savings or checking account (neither works), and then it says the transaction failed. I called JP Morgan Chase and they couldn't tell me anything. What gives? I had to get COP from one of those shitty currency exchanges using my cards.[/QUOTE]You should continue trying your card. A while back, the international ATM network was not working in Colombia. For almost a week, no withdrawals were possible with a foreign bank card. Also, try other banks. Davivienda and Scotiabank Colpatria always have worked for me if the network was working. Bancolombia has been a crap shoot for me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2635574]I am from the USA and most Americans that I know don't view Colombia any kind of way because they do not know anything about it. It might as well be Mexico as far as they are concerned. Most Americans break the world down to White, Black, Mexican, Chinese.[/QUOTE]You got that right.

I was born in a developing country then immigrated to America so I view the world differently. Where I'm from, hot water is a luxury. I have friends whos been living in East New York for 30+ years and constantly ask me if I'm not scared to go to CTG because its dangerous. The irony of them asking me that like the crime in East New York on a summer weekend is equal to the a whole years worth of crimes in CTG. Many Americans don't have passports or even travel out of their own state and base their views through TV shows, movies and stories they hear. Its like they watched Narcos on Netflix and that's all the info they need to come to a conclusion on Colombia.

I had the same problem with a CS debit card at a few ATMs, but another card worked perfect.

Called CS, they said wrong pin too many time, they had to block it out. Reset the PIN, card works now.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2635782]Hmmm not sure about your info, I saw this:

"Colombians, foreigners residing in Colombia, and diplomats and their families:

Pre-registration form of Migraciand Colombia with the data of your trip on the Check-Mig page before coming to Colombia. You must enter the following link: Check-Mig.

Vaccination card showing that they were vaccinated at least 14 days before the date of entry to the country.

If they have not been vaccinated, they can bring a PCR test performed 72 hours in advance and with a negative result.

Foreigners not residing in Colombia but visiting the country for tourism or business purposes:

Pre-registration form for Migraciand Colombia with your travel information on the Check-Mig page before coming to Colombia. You must enter the following link: Check-Mig.

Vaccination card showing that they were vaccinated at least 14 days before the date of entry to the country. It is accepted to have at least one dose..[/QUOTE]A number of article used the word PCR or vaccine. I see what you read. Now here is one saying you need both. [URL]https://www.aviacionline.com/2021/12/colombia-begins-to-require-pcr-test-and-vaccination-to-enter-the-country/[/URL].

God, I hate this shit.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2635782]Hmmm not sure about your info, I saw this:

"Colombians, foreigners residing in Colombia, and diplomats and their families:

Pre-registration form of Migraciand Colombia with the data of your trip on the Check-Mig page before coming to Colombia. You must enter the following link: Check-Mig.

Vaccination card showing that they were vaccinated at least 14 days before the date of entry to the country.

If they have not been vaccinated, they can bring a PCR test performed 72 hours in advance and with a negative result.

Foreigners not residing in Colombia but visiting the country for tourism or business purposes:

Pre-registration form for Migraciand Colombia with your travel information on the Check-Mig page before coming to Colombia. You must enter the following link: Check-Mig.

Vaccination card showing that they were vaccinated at least 14 days before the date of entry to the country. It is accepted to have at least one dose..[/QUOTE]As I read it, the second category needs a PCR test if they only have one jab of the two jab vaccines. It would be nice to have some clarification on this as I am traveling to Colombia in a few weeks.

This may get you started.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1PUfkhjrv3onyVnQ-7YJ-idHEite-w24Y&ll=4.138977665539278%2C-73.62349845000001&z=15[/URL]

[QUOTE=PolyOrchid;2635593]You're spot on, Mr. E.

Heading into Bogota on Saturday, then on to check out Frogg's recent discovery, Villavicencio. Been coming here since 1970, and Colombia's an always-exciting, wonderful place, filled with a colorful cast of great people.

Too bad so many Americans fear it so much. But, hey, better for the rest of us.

Happy hols to all.

Poly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MusicIsLove;2636006]As I read it, the second category needs a PCR test if they only have one jab of the two jab vaccines. It would be nice to have some clarification on this as I am traveling to Colombia in a few weeks.[/QUOTE]I think it is full vaccine status or one shot and and a PCR test. Here is what Medellin Guru is saying:

"For tourists visiting Colombia, must have a completed vaccination record or at least one vaccination and a PCR test with a negative result taken within 72 hours."

I have scheduled a test just in case, but I don't think it is required. Anyone else have more information?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2635846]A number of article used the word PCR or vaccine. I see what you read. Now here is one saying you need both. [URL]https://www.aviacionline.com/2021/12/colombia-begins-to-require-pcr-test-and-vaccination-to-enter-the-country/[/URL].

God, I hate this shit.[/QUOTE]I hope we get the official word on the 14th that is either fully vax or PCR and not both for tourists.

For what it's worth, here is an official update from the USA Embassy.

"Entry and Exit Requirements .

Are USA Citizens permitted to enter?8239;Yes.

As of December 14, all visitors to Colombia aged 18 or older will need to provide proof of complete vaccination for entry. If your final COVID vaccine was less than 14 days before entry to Colombia you will need to have a PCR test 72 hours prior to arrival in Colombia.

Travelers must complete Migracióand Colombia's online Check-Mig form within 48 hours of boarding an inbound or outbound flight from Colombia. If the normal form's website is down travelers can find a contingency website here. ".

[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL]

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2636147]I hope we get the official word on the 14th that is either fully vax or PCR and not both for tourists.[/QUOTE]Appears that it is either. From the minister of health: Show a completed vaccination card in which you have taken the final dose at least 14 days before the flight. If you have not gotten the completed vaccine doses before 14 days then you have to show a negative PCR test from a maximum of 72 hours before the flight. It does not say anything about must have a vaccine card.

So the question is are they viewing a person with no doses the same as a person with not the full amount of doses? His statement does not distinguish. A person with no doses has incomplete doses, but a person with incomplete doses does not mean they have no doses.

El segundo grupo (extranjeros que no residen en Colombia, sino que visitan el pas por turismo u ocio) tiene que presentar su carn de vacunacin con esquema completo, al menos 14 das antes del vuelo. Si tiene el esquema incompleto o no ha cumplido los 14 das de haberlo terminado, para poder entrar al pas debe tener una prueba PCR negativa con mximo 72 horas de antelacin.

[URL]https://www.minsalud.gov.co/Paginas/Carne-de-vacunacion-o-prueba-PCR-seran-obligatorios-para-entrar-a-Colombia.aspx[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2636164]Appears that it is either. From the minister of health: Show a completed vaccination card in which you have taken the final dose at least 14 days before the flight. If you have not gotten the completed vaccine doses before 14 days then you have to show a negative PCR test from a maximum of 72 hours before the flight. It does not say anything about must have a vaccine card.

So the question is are they viewing a person with no doses the same as a person with not the full amount of doses? His statement does not distinguish. A person with no doses has incomplete doses, but a person with incomplete doses does not mean they have no doses.

El segundo grupo (extranjeros que no residen en Colombia, sino que visitan el pas por turismo u ocio) tiene que presentar su carn de vacunacin con esquema completo, al menos 14 das antes del vuelo. Si tiene el esquema incompleto o no ha cumplido los 14 das de haberlo terminado, para poder entrar al pas debe tener una prueba PCR negativa con mximo 72 horas de antelacin.[/QUOTE]We'll see but your article is from December 7 like my first link when they said vaccination or PCR. My second link was from the 8th where they said for tourists it is vaccination and PCR. So no one knows yet which one it will be for sure but my guess is that it is going to be both PCR and vaccine.

The one thing for sure is that in a few months it will change after this policy puts a major dent in their tourism dollars. They have changed things eight times in the last 15 months.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2636164]So the question is are they viewing a person with no doses the same as a person with not the full amount of doses? His statement does not distinguish. A person with no doses has incomplete doses, but a person with incomplete doses does not mean they have no doses. ... [URL]https://www.minsalud.gov.co/Paginas/Carne-de-vacunacion-o-prueba-PCR-seran-obligatorios-para-entrar-a-Colombia.aspx[/URL][/QUOTE]It appears they consider an incomplete vaccination the same as no vaccination. Also, it's up to the airlines to enforce the requirement, so it's possible to have different requirements with different airlines. I'll be checking the airline's website before my next trip to verify their requirement.

Biden's stupid one day requirement is the real hair in the ointment. He constantly promotes vaccinations, but makes no distinction between the vaccinated and unvaccinated when entering the US by air. I had made my reservation prior to his mandate and I return on a Monday. Not many options of getting the test on a Sunday.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2636183]It appears they consider an incomplete vaccination the same as no vaccination. Also, it's up to the airlines to enforce the requirement, so it's possible to have different requirements with different airlines. I'll be checking the airline's website before my next trip to verify their requirement.

Biden's stupid one day requirement is the real hair in the ointment. He constantly promotes vaccinations, but makes no distinction between the vaccinated and unvaccinated when entering the US by air. I had made my reservation prior to his mandate and I return on a Monday. Not many options of getting the test on a Sunday.[/QUOTE]Are you departing from CTG?

I have a contact in CTG that can get you the Antigen for 160 K. They come directly to your location and you get the results in 1 hour.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2636183]It appears they consider an incomplete vaccination the same as no vaccination. Also, it's up to the airlines to enforce the requirement, so it's possible to have different requirements with different airlines. I'll be checking the airline's website before my next trip to verify their requirement.

Biden's stupid one day requirement is the real hair in the ointment. He constantly promotes vaccinations, but makes no distinction between the vaccinated and unvaccinated when entering the US by air. I had made my reservation prior to his mandate and I return on a Monday. Not many options of getting the test on a Sunday.[/QUOTE]The airport testing site is supposedly open 24/7. Also some of the home testing kits are acceptable if they are performed according to the directions, which requires a video call to the testing company so they can observe you performing the test.

I'm certain there are also testing locations in Medellin which are open on Sunday, but I didn't feel like spending another 2 minutes finding the information. I can see how spending a couple of minutes finding out easily accessible information can be completely exhausting. That damned Biden.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2636195]The airport testing site is supposedly open 24/7. Also some of the home testing kits are acceptable if they are performed according to the directions, which requires a video call to the testing company so they can observe you performing the test.

I'm certain there are also testing locations in Medellin which are open on Sunday, but I didn't feel like spending another 2 minutes finding the information. I can see how spending a couple of minutes finding out easily accessible information can be completely exhausting. That damned Biden.[/QUOTE]When you log in for an appointment you will see Sundays especially is limited hours. Also the best, most reliable site for info on entering Colombia can be found here:

[URL]https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php[/URL]
Just click on the country that you need info on.

Straight from AA site:

Take notice that I entered a Dec 10 departure for Colombia.

According to the site Unvaccinated now cannot enter.

Also notice that it says Vaccinated do NOT require a PCR test.

Hey guys,

I was just curious, can anyone confirm if the weather forecast is correct? Because it is saying that it is raining every single day up to next weekend. That doesn't seem right. Says its raining for Medellin, Bogota and Cartagena. No way, can't be true.

Can someone confirm this for me? I heard the weather is amazing right now from a friend whose out there but he's at Pereira.

So can someone whose in Colombia confirm whether this is true or not?

I'm not going to Colombia now, but I'm definitely a little worried if it keeps raining. I'm going the first 2 weeks of January and I need good weather to really enjoy my first trip to Colombia.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2636609]Straight from AA site:

Take notice that I entered a Dec 10 departure for Colombia.

According to the site Unvaccinated now cannot enter.

Also notice that it says Vaccinated do NOT require a PCR test.[/QUOTE]So much shit going on with this tests and vaccination demands. I'm sitting at gate 32 in Mexico City International airport, fully checked in and waiting for an 00:40 flight with Avianca to Bogota. I was told no requirements for PCR tests nor vaccination.

I did fill out the online Checkmig card for Colombian immigration, and they did ask if you had received a vax, but no prohibition notices. Will publish my results after I clear immigration. In 5 hours. Fingers crossed.

[QUOTE=Blingz;2636634]Hey guys,

I was just curious, can anyone confirm if the weather forecast is correct? Because it is saying that it is raining every single day up to next weekend. That doesn't seem right. Says its raining for Medellin, Bogota and Cartagena. No way, can't be true.

Can someone confirm this for me? I heard the weather is amazing right now from a friend whose out there but he's at Pereira.

So can someone whose in Colombia confirm whether this is true or not?

I'm not going to Colombia now, but I'm definitely a little worried if it keeps raining. I'm going the first 2 weeks of January and I need good weather to really enjoy my first trip to Colombia.[/QUOTE]The rain in Colombia, especially in Medellin, can happen at any time, is unpredictable, and is a fact of life. It does not rain heavily all day long for days on end. Bring an umbrella and don't worry about it. If you really can't handle rain, don't go to Colombia. It rains quite a bit in most places.

[QUOTE=Blingz;2636634]I was just curious, can anyone confirm if the weather forecast is correct? Because it is saying that it is raining every single day up to next weekend. That doesn't seem right. Says its raining for Medellin, Bogota and Cartagena. No way, can't be true.
.[/QUOTE]Its grey, cool and wet for much of the year in Medellin. Some call it the city of eternal spring. I call it the city of eternal winter.

The Caribbean coast has a much drier climate. It hardly rains for most of the year, but it does have a rainy season (when I caught dengue fever) from May-June. Also apparently CTG can be wet in Oct-Nov.

[QUOTE=Blingz;2636634]Hey guys,

I was just curious, can anyone confirm if the weather forecast is correct? Because it is saying that it is raining every single day up to next weekend. That doesn't seem right. Says its raining for Medellin, Bogota and Cartagena. No way, can't be true.

Can someone confirm this for me? I heard the weather is amazing right now from a friend whose out there but he's at Pereira.

So can someone whose in Colombia confirm whether this is true or not?

I'm not going to Colombia now, but I'm definitely a little worried if it keeps raining. I'm going the first 2 weeks of January and I need good weather to really enjoy my first trip to Colombia.[/QUOTE]You're going in January and its December, way too early to be worrying about weather or predict it.

You're not saying where you're going. Medellin, Bogota and Cartagena have completely different climates. For example, I'm in CTG allot and its always a surprise rain shower that lasts about an hour and it can happen at any time.

Also, my chicas tell me the rainy season is from August to December.

[QUOTE=Blingz;2636634]Hey guys,

I was just curious, can anyone confirm if the weather forecast is correct? Because it is saying that it is raining every single day up to next weekend. That doesn't seem right. Says its raining for Medellin, Bogota and Cartagena. No way, can't be true.

Can someone confirm this for me? I heard the weather is amazing right now from a friend whose out there but he's at Pereira.

So can someone whose in Colombia confirm whether this is true or not?

I'm not going to Colombia now, but I'm definitely a little worried if it keeps raining. I'm going the first 2 weeks of January and I need good weather to really enjoy my first trip to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Having lived in Bogota and had many trips there, the best way to describe the weather there is schizophrenic with the rain. Prepare for most days there to have at least showers, especially in the afternoon. Also important to remember that Bogota is much further up in elevation and is distinctly cooler than MDE and CTG. Prepare accordingly.

Bogota is the one city in the world I've ever lived in where I never paid much attention to the forecast because there was just no point other than 50/60's with showers / rain.

[QUOTE=Quiksilver;2636955]Having lived in Bogota and had many trips there, the best way to describe the weather there is schizophrenic with the rain. Prepare for most days there to have at least showers, especially in the afternoon. Also important to remember that Bogota is much further up in elevation and is distinctly cooler than MDE and CTG. Prepare accordingly.

Bogota is the one city in the world I've ever lived in where I never paid much attention to the forecast because there was just no point other than 50/60's with showers / rain.[/QUOTE]+ 100. That is the perfect description of Bogota weather.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2636192]Are you departing from CTG?

I have a contact in CTG that can get you the Antigen for 160 K. They come directly to your location and you get the results in 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Hi. Can you share the contact? When I have left CTG the past few times this year, the testers were super slow getting results back.

[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2637007]Hi. Can you share the contact? When I have left CTG the past few times this year, the testers were super slow getting results back.[/QUOTE][URL]https://goo.gl/maps/FG5M3qFhiJKUsJde7[/URL]

Blue building.

160 K for the Antigen, call and they will come to you or you can go to the location and set up the appointment. I Usually do it with them when I stay in Centro.

Here is another where you can walk in and get the test. This is by the large Exito close to the clock tower.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/6Na8aaWKnoFoKB4W8[/URL]

[QUOTE=Blingz;2636634]Hey guys,

I was just curious, can anyone confirm if the weather forecast is correct? Because it is saying that it is raining every single day up to next weekend. That doesn't seem right. Says its raining for Medellin, Bogota and Cartagena. No way, can't be true.

Can someone confirm this for me? I heard the weather is amazing right now from a friend whose out there but he's at Pereira.

So can someone whose in Colombia confirm whether this is true or not?

I'm not going to Colombia now, but I'm definitely a little worried if it keeps raining. I'm going the first 2 weeks of January and I need good weather to really enjoy my first trip to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Weatherman? Jaja no need for a weatherman because it can rain at any minute, You'll see lots of Bogotanas carrying an umbrella on a sunny day. I have been out early in the morning on a warm sunny day and go to the mall in a short sleeve shirt and when I exit the mall it's freezing cold and raining like a the end of the world. Just the other day my Novia was telling me it was hailing in Bogota. My advice, be ready for anything.

If a country make cannabis legal, and maybe some other pills like Tradamdol, etc.

And the criminal gangs loose their income, what happens?

I suggest; Liberalization creates even more dangerous criminal gangs; out of business they re-invent themselves as kidnappers, extortion, attacking sensitive businesses vital to the function of the society.

This while in drogwars, Gang A kills Gang be members only and vice versa.

Is it the best option to just accept that we can't get a better society, this is "As Good As It get's."

Are there any empirical, historical studies on this?

If the limit, imagined by both Police and criminals, that the battle we are fighting is about drogmoney, there might be a red lline to cross.

In comparison drug-related criminality are relatively "mild" compared with assassinations of politcal or business competitors, or vendettas.

[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL]

As of December 14,2021, visitors to Colombia ages 18 or older will need to provide proof of complete vaccination for entry. If your final COVID vaccine was less than 14 days before entry to Colombia you will also need to have a PCR test 72 hours prior to arrival in Colombia. Visitors ages 18 or older who have not had any vaccine will not be eligible for entry to Colombia.

Unvaccinated Colombian residents are permitted to enter with a negative test. Tourists are not! Huge change in attitude compared to their former unvaccinated, no-testing policy. The only fully-green countries for North Americans now are Mexico, Costa Rica, El Salvador and Dominican Republic -- no medical requirements.

[URL]https://www.kayak.com/travel-restrictions?&origin=US[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2636885]Its grey, cool and wet for much of the year in Medellin. Some call it the city of eternal spring. I call it the city of eternal winter.

The Caribbean coast has a much drier climate. It hardly rains for most of the year, but it does have a rainy season (when I caught dengue fever) from May-June. Also apparently CTG can be wet in Oct-Nov.[/QUOTE]I'm thinking the grey, cool, and wet would be Bogota. I've been in Medellin when it rained, but I never have been there when I would call it cool.

But Bogota is such that you want a jacket in the evening at least virtually all year long. And an umbrella handy.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2636885]Its grey, cool and wet for much of the year in Medellin. Some call it the city of eternal spring. I call it the city of eternal winter.

The Caribbean coast has a much drier climate. It hardly rains for most of the year, but it does have a rainy season (when I caught dengue fever) from May-June. Also apparently CTG can be wet in Oct-Nov.[/QUOTE]Back in the days many report said very negative things about Medellin. Simply to hold off competitors to fly in and ruin the game.

This post comes in a time when Medellin is widely accepted as a superb destination for a longer holiday with or without "prepagos", or retirement location.

Medellin practically always have good weather, I have never experienced bad. It sometimes rain a lot, but not for days and days, like in in Asia with the Monsun.

Practically all days are good, very good.

Winter? Medellin has 21-22 Celsius in medium, range is like 15-33 Celcius, very very stable.

Somehow a funny report. The guys, back in the days; Medellin is under siege from criminal gangs, etc etc, calling a splendid summer a winter does not do the trick to keep away competitors for Luxury _Pocahontas_Pussy.

This is what Medellin iss best known for and is also real; Pocahontas Babes are everywhere and they love gringos! Literarlly!

Now I don't want to be disturbed anymore by Plebejians, I'm listening to Harmonielehre (John adams).

[QUOTE=AmoMedellin;2640359]If a country make cannabis legal, and maybe some other pills like Tradamdol, etc.

And the criminal gangs loose their income, what happens?

I suggest; Liberalization creates even more dangerous criminal gangs; out of business they re-invent themselves as kidnappers, extortion, attacking sensitive businesses vital to the function of the society.

This while in drogwars, Gang A kills Gang be members only and vice versa.

Is it the best option to just accept that we can't get a better society, this is "As Good As It get's."

Are there any empirical, historical studies on this?

If the limit, imagined by both Police and criminals, that the battle we are fighting is about drogmoney, there might be a red lline to cross.

In comparison drug-related criminality are relatively "mild" compared with assassinations of politcal or business competitors, or vendettas.[/QUOTE]Your theory would be "be nice with the narcos because they can be nastier". Drug cartel can actually not be more nefarious. Kidnapping, extortion corruption, mass murders already happen despite their juicy business.

I told my chicks that I expect them to be taking me on a trip with this raise they are getting.

Recientemente el presidente Iván Duque anunció el incremento del 10.7 % en el salario mínimo que regirá en 2022. De tal forma que los trabajadores que devengan este monto recibirán un millón de pesos (252 dólares) más el auxilio de transporte, es decir, un total de 1.117.000 pesos (cerca de 282 dólares).

[url]https://www.eltiempo.com/amp/mundo/eeuu-y-canada/salario-minimo-en-estados-unidos-cuanto-es-en-pesos-colombianos-640172[/url]

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2640410][URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL]

As of December 14,2021, visitors to Colombia ages 18 or older will need to provide proof of complete vaccination for entry. If your final COVID vaccine was less than 14 days before entry to Colombia you will also need to have a PCR test 72 hours prior to arrival in Colombia. Visitors ages 18 or older who have not had any vaccine will not be eligible for entry to Colombia.

Unvaccinated Colombian residents are permitted to enter with a negative test. Tourists are not! Huge change in attitude compared to their former unvaccinated, no-testing policy. The only fully-green countries for North Americans now are Mexico, Costa Rica, El Salvador and Dominican Republic -- no medical requirements.

[URL]https://www.kayak.com/travel-restrictions?&origin=US[/URL][/QUOTE]So I have had the single dose J&J and no boosters of any kind.

Do I still need the Negative PCR to enter?

I live in Barranquilla about half my time and have been searching all over for the answer to this so I don't show up for my flight tomorrow morning and get denied.

Thanks for any help guys.

May I say Merry Christmas and an incredible New Year to come for all.

SKY.

[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2641537]So I have had the single dose J&J and no boosters of any kind.

Do I still need the Negative PCR to enter?

I live in Barranquilla about half my time and have been searching all over for the answer to this so I don't show up for my flight tomorrow morning and get denied.

Thanks for any help guys.

May I say Merry Christmas and an incredible New Year to come for all.

SKY.[/QUOTE]If your shot was more than 14 days ago, you don't need the PCR test, just your vaccination card showing the J&J vaccine.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2641297]I told my chicks that I expect them to be taking me on a trip with this raise they are getting.

Recientemente el presidente Ivn Duque anunci el incremento del 10.7 % en el salario mnimo que regir en 2022. De tal forma que los trabajadores que devengan este monto recibirn un milln de pesos (252 dlares) ms el auxilio de transporte, es decir, un total de 1.117.000 pesos (cerca de 282 dlares).

[url]https://www.eltiempo.com/amp/mundo/eeuu-y-canada/salario-minimo-en-estados-unidos-cuanto-es-en-pesos-colombianos-640172[/url].[/QUOTE]Not sure how far you're going to travel on 102.000 COP split 2 ways.

[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2641537]So I have had the single dose J&J and no boosters of any kind.

Do I still need the Negative PCR to enter?

I live in Barranquilla about half my time and have been searching all over for the answer to this so I don't show up for my flight tomorrow morning and get denied.

Thanks for any help guys.

May I say Merry Christmas and an incredible New Year to come for all..[/QUOTE]The way I understand it you just need to complete the recommended dosing schedule for your vaccine. You shouldn't need a booster or a PCR test.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2641570]The way I understand it you just need to complete the recommended dosing schedule for your vaccine. You shouldn't need a booster or a PCR test.[/QUOTE]I had the same struggle. There is no info out there if J&J is considered a full single dose vaccine by the Colombian government. At least that I could find.

I came in last week with J&J back in August and a J&J booster just 24 hrs before my flight. They didn't say or ask anything. I do think the booster should not have been considered in any way shape or form since it wasn't 14 days old.

I'm trying to complete this form online and when I put the flight number in I get a response that the number is incorrect. I have checked it 10 times with no luck. I'm positive I put the right number in. I wonder if I can get this corrected at the airport. I know you have to have the form sent in no later than one hour before the flight. Anyone please advise what I should do?

John Gault.

As I remember the flight number takes only numbers, not alphabet.

What airline are you flying? I don't think they will help you at the airport.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2647887]I'm trying to complete this form online and when I put the flight number in I get a response that the number is incorrect. I have checked it 10 times with no luck. I'm positive I put the right number in. I wonder if I can get this corrected at the airport. I know you have to have the form sent in no later than one hour before the flight. Anyone please advise what I should do?[/QUOTE]Are you traveling to Colombia or leaving? Make sure the flight number is the flight arriving or leaving Colombia, and only use numbers, no letters. I only fly Copa, and their counter agents are good with helping people fill out forms. Hopefully other airline agents are also helpful.

[URL]https://www.consumerreports.org/carry-on-luggage/when-carry-on-luggage-isnt-carry-on-size/[/URL]

Check your air tickets for luggage allowances. Most tickets should allow you 1 carryon luggage under 22 x14 x9 inches which fit in the overhead bin, also a soft bag for personal items. If your luggage exceeds 22 x14 x9 inch including wheels and handles, check luggage fee can be expensive. Airlines will dick you for high check luggage fee.

I bought an American Tourister carry-on flexible roll along case in Bogota. It fit inside the box at the VivaAerobus' counter, but they nailed me for $145 fee for a flight from Medellin to Mexico city.

At Volaris' counter in Mexico City, agents told me the piece did not have to check in, it's slightly large but would fit in the overhead bin. But at the gate, Volaris agents refused to let me board, had no workers to take it back to the counter, told me to take it back, which was half the airport away with long waiting lines, would take hours and I would miss the flight. Damn.

I came back to the gate talking to the English-speaking flight crew chief. He said he could not take the chance not being able to close the overhead bin and the plane could not take off. He had a real safety and regulation concern as a bursar, not trying to dick me for extra luggage money. After all passengers boarded, he told me my luggage would have to stay behind. Lucky I had a smaller pilot roll-along case that fit inside the big one. I packed valuables into the smaller case, wore an extra sweater under the jacket, discarded some old clothes inside the brand-new Am Tourister alleged carry-on case at the gate and boarded the plane to go home. Another passenger also had to discard his big hard case and carried all his clothes in a trash bag onto the plane. That was allowed.

So buy a pilot carry on case 22 x14 x8 to prevent ridiculous check luggage fees by cheap airlines. Don't forget this perfect Medellin beauty by Botero.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2647929]Are you traveling to Colombia or leaving? Make sure the flight number is the flight arriving or leaving Colombia, and only use numbers, no letters. I only fly Copa, and their counter agents are good with helping people fill out forms. Hopefully other airline agents are also helpful.[/QUOTE]I used only numbers. I'm going to MDE.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2647962]I used only numbers. I'm going to MDE.[/QUOTE]The only time I had that problem it was because I had chosen the wrong destination airport. I had selected the Olaya Herrera Airport instead of the Jose Maria Cordova Airport.

I'm considering a trip to CTG and MDE in early March. I took a few trips last year and the situation was decent some places and less decent others re: restrictions. Are things generally open and open late? (I went to Portugal last summer and everything closed at 7! Brazil was cool, but they made you wear your masks everywher -- even the beach.) Is the chica scene in CTG and MDE decent nowadays? (I primarily use Facebook in Colombia, so I assume this is not a problem.

I have heard that some normally GF places are being stricter on letting girls in.).

Thanks in advance for any advice about coming / not coming early March.

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2649310]I'm considering a trip to CTG and MDE in early March. I took a few trips last year and the situation was decent some places and less decent others re: restrictions. Are things generally open and open late? (I went to Portugal last summer and everything closed at 7! Brazil was cool, but they made you wear your masks everywher -- even the beach.) Is the chica scene in CTG and MDE decent nowadays? (I primarily use Facebook in Colombia, so I assume this is not a problem.

I have heard that some normally GF places are being stricter on letting girls in.).

Thanks in advance for any advice about coming / not coming early March.[/QUOTE]I just flew into MDE on Jan 6th, and for the first time I was asked to show my vacc card and inspected by the migra.

MDE has no curfew in effect. Leaving for CTG tomorrow, but as of last year Oct there was 2 am curfew in effect.

Chica scene is still decent so far in MDE, but I can only speak for el centro area Botero Plaza. I would still "cum".

Any of you entered Colombia with a first dose plus neg PCR since 12/14?

There is some mixed info floating around that only double vaxed can enter, also that first vac and neg PCR can enter. Since I had the shit last year my doctor recommending just have the first dose, which I did.

Any of you have direct info from the Col. Gov about this in Spanish?

[QUOTE=Ornitomovil;2651095]Any of you entered Colombia with a first dose plus neg PCR since 12/14?

There is some mixed info floating around that only double vaxed can enter, also that first vac and neg PCR can enter. Since I had the shit last year my doctor recommending just have the first dose, which I did.

Any of you have direct info from the Col. Gov about this in Spanish?[/QUOTE]Why are you asking random strangers about things that are listed on Colombia's official Embassy site? The shouldn't be any mixed info floating around anywhere. If its not stated on Colombia's official site then do not believe it, or you can chance it and the worst that can happen is you get denied entry and your money and time wasted.

Get your up to date information from the source:

[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/health-alert%e2%80%afnew-covid-19-entry-requirements-colombia/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ornitomovil;2651095]Any of you entered Colombia with a first dose plus neg PCR since 12/14?

There is some mixed info floating around that only double vaxed can enter, also that first vac and neg PCR can enter. Since I had the shit last year my doctor recommending just have the first dose, which I did.

Any of you have direct info from the Col. Gov about this in Spanish?[/QUOTE]I just got back last weekend from BAQ. My plans to fly for the Christmas / New Year Holiday took a very sudden turn when they changed the rule in early December. I was not Vaxd when the Ministry of Health proclaimed that all Non-Residents must either be fully vaxd or show a Neg PCR. At the time I couldn't find the Rapid PCR near me so I went with the Johnson 1 Poke as I still had time for the 2 weeks required to be considered FULLY VAXD.

I was shocked that I had my card checked twice in FLL Airport before leaving and it was heavily examined upon arrival in BAQ by La Migra. Once there I was asked to show it at several restaurants and clubs.

If you want to enter many of the upscale restaurants and night clubs you will need you Vax card with you at all times.

My card is only a month old and almost worn out from constantly getting it out and showing it around. These things are larger than a normal wallet so you have to fold them and they are crappy card stock so it seems that they wear out pretty quickly. Don't really know what to do about that when it is unreadable.

Any thoughts on that would be helpful.

Be safe and have a blast.

SKY.

[QUOTE=Ornitomovil;2651095]Any of you entered Colombia with a first dose plus neg PCR since 12/14?

There is some mixed info floating around that only double vaxed can enter, also that first vac and neg PCR can enter. Since I had the shit last year my doctor recommending just have the first dose, which I did.

Any of you have direct info from the Col. Gov about this in Spanish?[/QUOTE]I don't have the link, but I read it in Spanish (when it first came out) and it seemed very clear. Non residents need to be fully vaccinated to enter.



Edited to add: I did a search and on https://colombia.travel/en/covid-19-information it indicates that indeed you may be able to enter with first dose of vaccine plus PCR test..

[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2651331]

If you want to enter many of the upscale restaurants and night clubs you will need you Vax card with you at all times.

My card is only a month old and almost worn out from constantly getting it out and showing it around. These things are larger than a normal wallet so you have to fold them and they are crappy card stock so it seems that they wear out pretty quickly. Don't really know what to do about that when it is unreadable.

Any thoughts on that would be helpful.

Be safe and have a blast..[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me in December in CTG Dolce did not let anyone in unless proof of vaccine was shown, same with upscale restaurants in Centro. But once we got to El Lagito, Bocagrande and Getsemeni no one asked. I leave the card in the safe and use the app, over here in NJ we have the Docket app that shows vaccine status and across the bridge in NY they have Excelsior Pass. You may want to check if your state also have its own version of the app and take a screenshot of the vaccine app as its faster to pull up a photo.

Thanks for checking.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2651353]I don't have the link, but I read it in Spanish (when it first came out) and it seemed very clear. Non residents need to be fully vaccinated to enter..[/QUOTE]

Seal it in plastic, just like I do with the copy of my first two pages of my passport.

[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2651331]I just got back last weekend from BAQ. My plans to fly for the Christmas / New Year Holiday took a very sudden turn when they changed the rule in early December. I was not Vaxd when the Ministry of Health proclaimed that all Non-Residents must either be fully vaxd or show a Neg PCR. At the time I couldn't find the Rapid PCR near me so I went with the Johnson 1 Poke as I still had time for the 2 weeks required to be considered FULLY VAXD.

I was shocked that I had my card checked twice in FLL Airport before leaving and it was heavily examined upon arrival in BAQ by La Migra. Once there I was asked to show it at several restaurants and clubs.

If you want to enter many of the upscale restaurants and night clubs you will need you Vax card with you at all times..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2651720]Seal it in plastic, just like I do with the copy of my first two pages of my passport.[/QUOTE]Do you mean laminate it or just put it in a plastic bag? If you laminate it you will not be able to write the monthly boosters on it later.

Just put it in one of these.

Just copy and laminate the first two pages of your passport.

Wanted to buy few bottles of liquor and coffee back to the states and is it better to purchase them at duty free?

Usually never buy anything and curious to see how is works.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2654333]Wanted to buy few bottles of liquor and coffee back to the states and is it better to purchase them at duty free?

Usually never buy anything and curious to see how is works.[/QUOTE]At Duty Free you will pay more than the local store. You do not have to declare coffee or liquor if its only a few bottles. I've brought back liquor and coffee many times, I just put it in my checked luggage, I just have to warn you, wrap that coffee several times in a sealed bag, its strong and will remain on your clothes until you wash them. If you're the carry on only type then you will not get through security with any liquor bottles and must go Duty Free. Also be aware just because you see something on the arrival side of Duty Free does not mean it will be on the departure side (I learned this the hard way in CTG when we came in they had allot of local Colombian rum, and I thought ill buy it to take back home when leaving, when time came to leave, they had zero on the departure side.)

Another thing to be aware of, unless you have a straight flight with no transfers in another country, Duty Free may be an issue.

I had an issue when leaving Asia I brought liquor from Duty Free on the departure side, allowed on the plane with it, landed in another country for my connecting flight to return to the US and they would not let me on the plane with it. They stated that because I did not buy it from Duty free in their country it is not allowed in the main cabin. I had the choice of buying a small suitcase right then and there in the airport put the liquor inside and check the bag for an extra cost and pray the bottles didn't break or forfeit the liquor. Needless to say the cost of the suitcase + bag check fee was more than the liquor that was inside it. A very expensive lesson.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2654333]Wanted to buy few bottles of liquor and coffee back to the states and is it better to purchase them at duty free?

Usually never buy anything and curious to see how is works.[/QUOTE]Go to the grocery store and buy it if you don't want to get ripped off. I bought coffee for my daughter once and some ladies shopping in the store told me to get Sello Rojo brand.

Don't know what kind of liquor you plan on buying. Really the only thing Colombia has is aguardiente. (They take shots of it; it tastes like black licorice - get the sugarless kind if you want to avoid a headache.) Things from any other country then you would come out better buying it at the store where you live.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2654333]Wanted to buy few bottles of liquor and coffee back to the states and is it better to purchase them at duty free?

Usually never buy anything and curious to see how is works.[/QUOTE]Liquor will need to go in check-in if you buy at other than duty free. And carryon from duty free is good only to where you first land.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2654387]Liquor will need to go in check-in if you buy at other than duty free. And carryon from duty free is good only to where you first land.[/QUOTE]Unless you want to be selected for secondary. If you put Coffee on the customs form or they know you have it, they will select you for xray. It's an agricultural screen for bugs etc. I brought coffee home from CR years ago. If you don't mind going to additional screening ok but I just want to breeze through, I'll but the coffee in the USA.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2654836]Unless you want to be selected for secondary. If you put Coffee on the customs form or they know you have it, they will select you for xray. It's an agricultural screen for bugs etc. I brought coffee home from CR years ago. If you don't mind going to additional screening ok but I just want to breeze through, I'll but the coffee in the USA.[/QUOTE]Not saying you are wrong, but I have had different experiences. I always bring coffee from Colombia in my checked bag because the people in Panama will not allow ground coffee in carry-on bags. They say it is a powder. I have Global Entry so I do not fill out any customs form. Sometimes the agent asks if I am bringing anything from Colombia, and I tell them coffee. They send me on my way without any further checks.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2654851]I have Global Entry so I do not fill out any customs form. Sometimes the agent asks if I am bringing anything from Colombia, and I tell them coffee. They send me on my way without any further checks.[/QUOTE]Where do they still have forms? Isn't it all facial recognition now? You just tell the officer what you have when they ask, or if you have something over the limit you just tell them.

"Roasted Coffee: Travelers are permitted to bring unlimited quantities of roasted coffee in their luggage without restriction through any U.S. port of entry. However, as with all agricultural products, you must declare the product at entry."

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2654852]Where do they still have forms? Isn't it all facial recognition now? You just tell the officer what you have when they ask, or if you have something over the limit you just tell them.

"Roasted Coffee: Travelers are permitted to bring unlimited quantities of roasted coffee in their luggage without restriction through any U.S. port of entry. However, as with all agricultural products, you must declare the product at entry."[/QUOTE]On my last trip down to CTG on JetBlue the flight attendant walked through the cabin and handed out the form for anyone who had anything to declare. At first I thought it was the immigration form so when she got to my row before she even spoke I told her I already filled out the CheckMIG, but she told me it was if I had to something to declare. I was surprised as I have not seen that form in a long time both entering and leaving US. Maybe its random?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2654852]Where do they still have forms? Isn't it all facial recognition now? You just tell the officer what you have when they ask, or if you have something over the limit you just tell them.[/QUOTE]The OP mentioned putting coffee on the customs form, so I was responding to that. For approximately the last year, it has been only facial recognition for me when going through customs in the US.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2654852]Where do they still have forms? Isn't it all facial recognition now? You just tell the officer what you have when they ask, or if you have something over the limit you just tell them.

"Roasted Coffee: Travelers are permitted to bring unlimited quantities of roasted coffee in their luggage without restriction through any U.S. port of entry. However, as with all agricultural products, you must declare the product at entry."[/QUOTE]Last October,2021 True no more paper forms to fill out in any of the major cities. I may be wrong but I think I remember answering some custom questions on the kiosk. Some many trips seem to melt together anymore.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2655212]Last October,2021 True no more paper forms to fill out in any of the major cities. I may be wrong but I think I remember answering some custom questions on the kiosk. Some many trips seem to melt together anymore.[/QUOTE]When you had to scan your passport at the kiosk (before facial recognition), there were questions about if you brought certain products. Also, you had to verify your flight number.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2654884]On my last trip down to CTG on JetBlue the flight attendant walked through the cabin and handed out the form for anyone who had anything to declare. At first I thought it was the immigration form so when she got to my row before she even spoke I told her I already filled out the CheckMIG, but she told me it was if I had to something to declare. I was surprised as I have not seen that form in a long time both entering and leaving US. Maybe its random?[/QUOTE]I can also confirm this information as I recently visited Colombia via Houston on an United airlines flight. I'm thinking that this new protocol was ushered in with the new year because this form was not handed out on my previous trip to Colombia last July.

A couple things I found strange with The new form was a question that asked exactly how much cash you had on you. If you answered previously that you were not carrying more than 10 k USD, why would there be a follow up question about your cash? Another strange question was asking passengers to describe their luggage brands as well as the cost and color of their baggage. I'm sorry but this is pointless question! Do you really want to now how much I paid for my luggage?

Fwiw, The migration officer who stamped me did not ask to see the form and neither did the officer who questioned me after I gathered my luggage. I was simply asked if I had anything to declare, by which I answered no. The folded up form never left my pocket.

[QUOTE=OJeito;2655240]I can also confirm this information as I recently visited Colombia via Houston on an United airlines flight. I'm thinking that this new protocol was ushered in with the new year because this form was not handed out on my previous trip to Colombia last July.

A couple things I found strange with The new form was a question that asked exactly how much cash you had on you. If you answered previously that you were not carrying more than 10 k USD, why would there be a follow up question about your cash? Another strange question was asking passengers to describe their luggage brands as well as the cost and color of their baggage. I'm sorry but this is pointless question! Do you really want to now how much I paid for my luggage?

Fwiw, The migration officer who stamped me did not ask to see the form and neither did the officer who questioned me after I gathered my luggage. I was simply asked if I had anything to declare, by which I answered no. The folded up form never left my pocket.[/QUOTE]They are test questions to see if you are a mule and taking luggage that's not yours, given to you by someone else. Looking to catch you in a lie.

Booked a flight US to Medellin. I had to cancelled it in less 24 hours. I called their costumer service and was told that for refund to my credit card I must email VivaAir. Sent the email, received ticket number, but no response in 2 week. It takes up to 15 business days for them to respond according to the website. Does anyone has any experience with refund with VivaAir? I believe it is their policy to fully refund if flight is from US and cancelled in less than 24 hrs after booking. Thanks guys.

Price of a 32 page Colombian passport is 172,000 pesos. Price of a 48 page Colombian passport is 262,000 pesos. Both are valid for 10 years.

"El pasaporte tiene un costo de 172.000 pesos, si es regular y de 262.000 pesos si es ejecutivo. La diferencia entre los dos tipos de pasaporte radica en que el ordinario tiene 32 páginas y el ejecutivo cuenta con 48. En ambos casos el documento tiene una vigencia 10 años."

[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/economia/sectores/pasaporte-colombiano-2022-precios-y-paso-a-paso-para-solicitarlo-649656[/URL]

I was taken aback at the "members in common" feature on Facebook when you are part of an eg. Expat group.

My friends list is private (because there are many hookers in there), but Facebook makes it easy to see which guys who have same hookers as friends, so presumably others can also see that I have hookers as friends.

Border agents sometimes look at social media and it makes me uncomfortable to realise how easy it would for them to link me to others in the mongering community, especially as not all are law-abiding.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2660995]Border agents sometimes look at social media and it makes me uncomfortable to realise how easy it would for them to link me to others in the mongering community, especially as not all are law-abiding.[/QUOTE]If you have not committed any crimes, what is your worry? You think they are not off fucking hookers on their off days and vacation? They are normal people with a job to catch criminals. The job is not the person. Do you know how many law enforcement people are in the groups that I am in and that I have met that are even board members here? Even my own brother is a police officer and gets away from his wife to monger as often as he can. You are not doing anything top secret that was invented yesterday.

[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2658630]Booked a flight US to Medellin. I had to cancelled it in less 24 hours. I called their costumer service and was told that for refund to my credit card I must email VivaAir. Sent the email, received ticket number, but no response in 2 week. It takes up to 15 business days for them to respond according to the website. Does anyone has any experience with refund with VivaAir? I believe it is their policy to fully refund if flight is from US and cancelled in less than 24 hrs after booking. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]I once booked a flight to SAI for four of us, we got there alright but what a shitty airline. I Once booked a flight from Bog to Ctg. For my girl when you could only get to the USA out of Ctg. But things changed and because the flight was only like $40 USD I just blew it off, not worth the time or effort to get it back. It's been my experience, trying to get a refund or return something is next to impossible anywhere in South / Latin America.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2234858]You can get Viagra, or the generic, sildenafilo, at any pharmacy. No prescription is needed. It is available in 50 and 100 MG doses. You can also get Cialis, generic tadalafilo. Prices vary widely.[/QUOTE]Any other common drugs that may be prescription only in the States available OTC in Colombia?

[QUOTE=Lou32;2667203]Any other common drugs that may be prescription only in the States available OTC in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Quite a few. I've bought the generic Lunesta, a sleep aid, antibiotics and prednisolone, a steroid used for breathing issues and joint pain. You can also get 800 MG ibuprofen. Except for most narcotics, you can many things without a prescription.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2667206]Quite a few. I've bought the generic Lunesta, a sleep aid, antibiotics and prednisolone, a steroid used for breathing issues and joint pain. You can also get 800 MG ibuprofen. Except for most narcotics, you can many things without a prescription.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I am going to try to buy Simvastatin and Atorvastatin when I come back in a few weeks. I'll see how that goes at the Drogueria.

I noticed today that the Check-mig site and app will only allow completion of the form on the day of travel, even though their pop-up message says it can be completed up to 72 hours before the flight. Maybe it's just a temporary software glitch rather than a change of policy.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2668446]I noticed today that the Check-mig site and app will only allow completion of the form on the day of travel, even though their pop-up message says it can be completed up to 72 hours before the flight. Maybe it's just a temporary software glitch rather than a change of policy.[/QUOTE]The pop up that I get says from 48 hours until 1 hour before the flight. As of now the form can be filled out up to March 1. Dates after March 1 give an error message.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2668446]I noticed today that the Check-mig site and app will only allow completion of the form on the day of travel, even though their pop-up message says it can be completed up to 72 hours before the flight. Maybe it's just a temporary software glitch rather than a change of policy.[/QUOTE]FL, no one asked for check MIG on my way in or out of Colombia. I was there in the beginning of February. I think it is being phased out.

Both Visa and Mastercard are denying booking with Avianca. Even Orbitz denied it and I thought it would be okay being an American company (I assume). I called Avianca and they said I needed to go to a travel agency. Has anybody here had any success? The tickets are way cheaper than American or Copa but does it come with a price?

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2668519]Both Visa and Mastercard are denying booking with Avianca. Even Orbitz denied it and I thought it would be okay being an American company (I assume). I called Avianca and they said I needed to go to a travel agency. Has anybody here had any success? The tickets are way cheaper than American or Copa but does it come with a price?[/QUOTE]I've also had booking issues with Avianca in the past, but for the past few months no issues. When the web site booking process asks you for a Colombia phone number I use my Col hotel phone number. But when you get to credit card portion of the booking process, there I don't fudge it as I pay with my US CC. The AV site asks for the country of issue and your billing address, and local telephone number. Haven't had any issues with any of my domestic Colombia purchases recently. Good luck, Luvchicas.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2668519]Both Visa and Mastercard are denying booking with Avianca. Even Orbitz denied it and I thought it would be okay being an American company (I assume). I called Avianca and they said I needed to go to a travel agency. Has anybody here had any success? The tickets are way cheaper than American or Copa but does it come with a price?[/QUOTE]I have used Avianca with 0 problems for the past 20 years booking on the Colombian site for better prices. But since their BK filing during COVID my experience has been the polar opposite. In July 2021 I had a refundable ticket that I couldn't request a refund on the website. I had never had a problem before with a refund in the past. Max 2 weeks to get see. See. Refunded. The website denied me. I had to go in person to the office in Oviedo Mall in MDE to request the credit. 90 days later still pending. I had to dispute with AMEX and after proving up the ticket was refundable AMEX credited back the fare after inquiring with Avianca and not getting a response through a charge back.

Fast forward to 2 weeks ago. I had to purchase 2 tickets. One route NVA to BOG for my GF (Ticket 1) and one route BOG to PEI for both of us. (Ticket 2). I purchased Ticket 1 and purchase goes as expected. I purchase Ticket 2 and purchase goes as expected until 6 hours later I get an email from AV saying that the purchase did not go through due to irregularities with my payment type (CC). I follow up with AMEX as charge for Ticket 2 goes from Pending to Charged on CC.

Here is where it gets weird. After all tickets have been charged to my AMEX I check ticket status on [URL]Avianca.com[/URL]. I check Ticket 2 which had a problem, and I can confirm this flight on the website. I check Ticket 1, which went through with no problem, and can't confirm flight on website. I call Avianca and through the representative that both tickets are confirmed and they send me a copy of the tickets to my email to prove confirmation. No explanation why Ticket 1 still can't confirm on the website. So, all tickets confirmed, but still a little nervous about having to confirm flights once I am in country.

My first thought was that because of the charge back though AMEX that this card was "banned" or something, but the charges all went through. Fortunately I will be able to confirm in country as I arrive before the dates of the flights for Ticket 1 and Ticket 2. Sharing my story to help others.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2668501]FL, no one asked for check MIG on my way in or out of Colombia. I was there in the beginning of February. I think it is being phased out.[/QUOTE]I just got back from 10 days in Bogota and no one asked for the Check-mig to or from Colombia. They were more interested in my Vaccine card going to Colombia and my Antigen test going back to the USA. I did complete my CHeck-mig both ways but it seemed to work much better on my Iphone than my laptop.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2668501]FL, no one asked for check MIG on my way in or out of Colombia. I was there in the beginning of February. I think it is being phased out.[/QUOTE]I had a different experience. Maybe you got the good looking pass. Hahaha. I was asked to provide it before I was issued a paper boarding pass leaving US even though I had already done everything online but didn't keep a copy of the MIG on my phone so I had to do it again at the counter and leaving Medellin I had my boarding pass on my phone even though I didn't do a MIG because it was required while filling everything else out but agent in MDE had me fill it out at the counter.

Early to Mid Feb time frame but different treatment. Lots of checkpoints and lines at MDE while leaving so allow plenty of time before your flight. May e it was because it was a Monday.

After the trouble with the credit cards and Avianca, I read further and there are many customers complaining about Avianca. Plus the credit card representative said that they were having multiple problems with Avianca which was why the did not let the charge go through. My only experience with Avianca was ten years ago when I flew from Sao Paulo to Bogota. It was an excellent flight. The bankruptcy probably did them in.

Copa Airlines has been very reliable in the past. It seems as if they are always on time. But the difference in price between Avianca and Copa probably would have paid for all my Medellin adventures since I like to fly business class. Oh well. I am old. You can't spend it after you're turned into ashes.

[QUOTE=LuvChicas;2668735]I've also had booking issues with Avianca in the past, but for the past few months no issues. When the web site booking process asks you for a Colombia phone number I use my Col hotel phone number. But when you get to credit card portion of the booking process, there I don't fudge it as I pay with my US CC. The AV site asks for the country of issue and your billing address, and local telephone number. Haven't had any issues with any of my domestic Colombia purchases recently. Good luck, Luvchicas.[/QUOTE]Nope. I just tried and it would not go through. At first it gave me an error message before going to the payment section. Then I tried again and used my old Colombian number, but on the payment section I used my normal US number like you said. It would not go through again. I tried once more and put my old Colombian number in both places and it worked.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2668840]I had a different experience. Maybe you got the good looking pass. Hahaha. I was asked to provide it before I was issued a paper boarding pass leaving US even though I had already done everything online but didn't keep a copy of the MIG on my phone so I had to do it again at the counter and leaving Medellin I had my boarding pass on my phone even though I didn't do a MIG because it was required while filling everything else out but agent in MDE had me fill it out at the counter.

Early to Mid Feb time frame but different treatment. Lots of checkpoints and lines at MDE while leaving so allow plenty of time before your flight. May e it was because it was a Monday.[/QUOTE]I fly to Barranquilla monthly from FLL on Spirit Air and get asked for it every time as part of the check in process. I fill it out to leave but have never been asked for it by Colombian Migracion. I noticed that they added some Vaccine questions in December.

[QUOTE=SkyBuilder;2669170]I fly to Barranquilla monthly from FLL on Spirit Air and get asked for it every time as part of the check in process. I fill it out to leave but have never been asked for it by Colombian Migracion. I noticed that they added some Vaccine questions in December.[/QUOTE]I flew into Cartagena from Orlando this month. Sprit asked for vaccine info, check MIG, and return reservation. In Colombia, customs asked for passport and vaccine card but no check MIG.

I did not fill out check MIG last trip and flew in on Viva to Medellin last time but Spirit was different.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2672011]I flew into Cartagena from Orlando this month. Sprit asked for vaccine info, check MIG, and return reservation. In Colombia, customs asked for passport and vaccine card but no check MIG.

I did not fill out check MIG last trip and flew in on Viva to Medellin last time but Spirit was different.[/QUOTE]Colombian immigration does not need to ask for Checkmig when you arrive. They can see you are in the system and have already done it. When I arrived 2 weeks ago there were people at the immigration desk filling out the old paper forms because they had not done the Checkmig before arrival.

"In Colombia, Saint Joseph's Day is also referred to as "DIA del Hombre", meaning "Day of Men". It is seen as a celebration not only of Joseph and of the role of good fathers, but also of the role of men in general in society."

It's coming up next Monday. Wondering if anything or everything will be closed. Or else if they'll be specials on offer, in honor of, you know, us.

Kind of unrelated to Medellin so if this doesn't belong here I apologize and can be deleted this just seems like an active thread. I am pretty nervous about the future of mongering. How long is it until girls start to migrate to OnlyFans or just do digital whoring? I feel like now a girl can just be an 8 and have offers from rich chinese and Arabs to go shopping for a day. I am looking at the reports in Germany and it looks pretty grim. Please tell me this is a passing trend. I already know women don't make that much on OF but its scary none the less.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2684518]Kind of unrelated to Medellin so if this doesn't belong here I apologize and can be deleted this just seems like an active thread. I am pretty nervous about the future of mongering. How long is it until girls start to migrate to OnlyFans or just do digital whoring? I feel like now a girl can just be an 8 and have offers from rich chinese and Arabs to go shopping for a day. I am looking at the reports in Germany and it looks pretty grim. Please tell me this is a passing trend. I already know women don't make that much on OF but its scary none the less.[/QUOTE]I've reported on this before with the girls of DR. The social media influence of OnlyFans made allot of the good looking girls stop walking the street and now they just sit at home and sell clips and pictures. This was another reason many stopped going to DR and started going to Colombia because there was nothing but a bunch of overweight or worn out chicas walking around while the younger ones are just doing OnlyFans. The same thing is starting to happen in CTG as well, when you get the chicas instagram they have a link to their OnlyFans and they no longer want to come out unless your paying top dollar. We can thank those guys sitting at home sending these girls money, and the girls show they are making allot of money by flexing with iPhones with 3 cameras in mirror selfies. SMH.

There are different mongers with different mindsets and they don't realize the long term effects.

Some mongers think their on vacation to have a good time so it doesn't matter if they have to spend a few extra dollars to get what they want and enjoy their limited time overseas. That few extra dollars is then to be expected of the next monger who comes along.

Some mongers think that if they spend more and raise the overall price it will phase out the mongers who cannot afford the inflated price. This is why the chicas are talking in Dollars and now Euros instead of Pesos.

Some mongers think they can monopolize a chicas time by flying her out for a few days or even a month as I've seen with chicas being flown out to other areas outside of Colombia such as Cancun, Croatia or Germany. Now some chicas don't want work unless you take them for a few consecutive days.

So now we have chicas raising the price on mongers who they have done business with before because some other monger came along and gave her the false mindset that she should be earning more money for the same service.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2684789]I've reported on this before with the girls of DR. The social media influence of OnlyFans made allot of the good looking girls stop walking the street and now they just sit at home and sell clips and pictures. This was another reason many stopped going to DR and started going to Colombia because there was nothing but a bunch of overweight or worn out chicas walking around while the younger ones are just doing OnlyFans. The same thing is starting to happen in CTG as well, when you get the chicas instagram they have a link to their OnlyFans and they no longer want to come out unless your paying top dollar. We can thank those guys sitting at home sending these girls money, and the girls show they are making allot of money by flexing with iPhones with 3 cameras in mirror selfies. SMH.

There are different mongers with different mindsets and they don't realize the long term effects.

Some mongers think their on vacation to have a good time so it doesn't matter if they have to spend a few extra dollars to get what they want and enjoy their limited time overseas. That few extra dollars is then to be expected of the next monger who comes along.

Some mongers think that if they spend more and raise the overall price it will phase out the mongers who cannot afford the inflated price. This is why the chicas are talking in Dollars and now Euros instead of Pesos.

Some mongers think they can monopolize a chicas time by flying her out for a few days or even a month as I've seen with chicas being flown out to other areas outside of Colombia such as Cancun, Croatia or Germany. Now some chicas don't want work unless you take them for a few consecutive days.

So now we have chicas raising the price on mongers who they have done business with before because some other monger came along and gave her the false mindset that she should be earning more money for the same service.[/QUOTE]LOL. Someone pays more and then she has a false mindset that she can earn more. Uhhh. Hmm. And preferring on line to fucking ugly gringos. That is really hard to understand. And your very own conspiracy theory that there are a whole bunch of mongers purposely paying more to price out the less wealthy mongers. Now that is really funny.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2684789]I've reported on this before with the girls of DR. The social media influence of OnlyFans made allot of the good looking girls stop walking the street and now they just sit at home and sell clips and pictures. This was another reason many stopped going to DR and started going to Colombia because there was nothing but a bunch of overweight or worn out chicas walking around while the younger ones are just doing OnlyFans. The same thing is starting to happen in CTG as well, when you get the chicas instagram they have a link to their OnlyFans and they no longer want to come out unless your paying top dollar. We can thank those guys sitting at home sending these girls money, and the girls show they are making allot of money by flexing with iPhones with 3 cameras in mirror selfies. SMH.

There are different mongers with different mindsets and they don't realize the long term effects.

Some mongers think their on vacation to have a good time so it doesn't matter if they have to spend a few extra dollars to get what they want and enjoy their limited time overseas. That few extra dollars is then to be expected of the next monger who comes along.

Some mongers think that if they spend more and raise the overall price it will phase out the mongers who cannot afford the inflated price. This is why the chicas are talking in Dollars and now Euros instead of Pesos..[/QUOTE]And some mongers prefer to blame someone else rather than solve the problem. Sorry if that offends you. I'll explain.

7 years ago, before OnlyFans, my experience in the DR was that for every hooker I found attractive, there were 2 who I considered fat. OnlyFans didn't cause that.

Sure lots of working girls decide to go on Webcam or start selling videos. Guess what they are doing 2 months later. The same thing they were doing before. The reason is simple. Most working girls aren't willing to work a regular job and keep a regular schedule, which are requirements if you're going to make money online. That's been going on for at least 10 years in Colombia. I know about it firsthand. I had to deal every day with Webcam models who would not show up for 3 days, or who would work for 45 minutes and decide to take the rest of the day off. Maybe 1 of every 50 girls who try to make the jump to online content ends up making as much as they made hooking and many of them keep hooking, because they understand about working towards goals.

You can go back to any point in history and see that wealthy guys were lavishly spending on hookers. It's nothing new and 1% of the customers don't control 100% of the market. There are plenty of girls in Medellin who have been all over the world, on some monger's dime, and they're still available at a reasonable price. I know because I've had a few.

If you look at the big picture, prices in Medellin haven't gone up enough to complain about. In many circumstances they've gone down. The price at New Life 5 years ago was 45 k. Is it 65 k now? 5 years ago you got 2500 COP for $1, now you get 3800. Price went from $18 to $17. Fb, El Centro, actual cost has gone down. About the only spots where you will pay more now are La Isla, Fase 2 and Gusto.

If the mongering scene is dying in Medellin, it's news to me. Every day I've got girls trying to get on my schedule.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2684837]LOL. Someone pays more and then she has a false mindset that she can earn more. Uhhh. Hmm. And preferring on line to fucking ugly gringos. That is really hard to understand. And your very own conspiracy theory that there are a whole bunch of mongers purposely paying more to price out the less wealthy mongers. Now that is really funny.[/QUOTE]I'm mostly speaking on my CTG observations as my chicas are telling me I should go to Medelin as its much cheaper but I keep telling them those motoconcho robberies need to calm down first and I need to know more Spanish as I don't want to be constantly be looking over my shoulder. Jajaja.

But the stupid shit some of these mongers say and observations on what chicas I've known for years is now doing is funny to see it play out.

I don't have a conspiracy theory, I'm just saying what I hear these travel bros say when they are next to me because they appear to want everyone in a 6' radius know what they are talking about like they have no volume control. The plane lands they're talking about it, they're on the line to get through immigration they're talking about it, they're waiting for luggage off the carousel, they're still talking about it. I'm not going to tell them paying more won't stop other mongers, their train of thought and their pockets.

The whole online to make money as opposed to fucking gringos, well they got that figured out. On my August trip was my first encounter with CTG club chica taking online payment via Zelle, PayPal I knew but Zelle was new, and they already know how to link it all to Nequi. Many chicas I've stopped talking to because they want to sell me pictures and videos and when I ask them why would I want to give them money for pictures and video when we have already fucked they want to get mad. SMH.

Its allot of laughable stuff, I can agree.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2684518]I am pretty nervous about the future of mongering. How long is it until girls start to migrate to OnlyFans or just do digital whoring?[/QUOTE]All you can do is work with what you have. No sense in worrying about what you do not have access to.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2684518]Kind of unrelated to Medellin so if this doesn't belong here I apologize and can be deleted this just seems like an active thread. I am pretty nervous about the future of mongering. How long is it until girls start to migrate to OnlyFans or just do digital whoring? I feel like now a girl can just be an 8 and have offers from rich chinese and Arabs to go shopping for a day. I am looking at the reports in Germany and it looks pretty grim. Please tell me this is a passing trend. I already know women don't make that much on OF but its scary none the less.[/QUOTE]You may be onto something here but this hobby has been thru a lot of ups and downs. The internet has made it possible to connect with women that before the net you had no hope of meeting.

But it can also be a negative. You never know when a slight change, like the closing of Help and T. A. Can almost collapse the hobby in Copa. Or Covid in many places in the world for that matter for 2 plus years. All you can do is make the best of it.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2685185]You may be onto something here but this hobby has been thru a lot of ups and downs. The internet has made it possible to connect with women that before the net you had no hope of meeting.[/QUOTE]Its another way for a sexy girls to make a living. Sexy girls have always had a few options. But the thing is. Will demand for online porn ever be enough to employ all sexy and desperate girls? I doubt it very much.

Personally I reckon other factors, that global poverty and birth rates, will effect the availability far more. Even the war in Ukraine. Can you imagine the potential effects there? The economic effects of pretty girls in not just Ukraine and Russia, but evn Venezuela! There is talk that the USA will stop its hideous and immoral embargo against Venezuela in the hope that the West can buy their oil. Then the flood of girls will go home to mow the new lawns! Can you imagine?

Myself, I am looking fwd to the day when AI removes our need for women. Then the boot will be on the other foot. Blow up dolls don't yet do it for me.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2684847]And some mongers prefer to blame someone else rather than solve the problem. Sorry if that offends you. I'll explain.

7 years ago, before OnlyFans, my experience in the DR was that for every hooker I found attractive, there were 2 who I considered fat. OnlyFans didn't cause that.

Sure lots of working girls decide to go on Webcam or start selling videos. Guess what they are doing 2 months later. The same thing they were doing before. The reason is simple. Most working girls aren't willing to work a regular job and keep a regular schedule, which are requirements if you're going to make money online. That's been going on for at least 10 years in Colombia. I know about it firsthand. I had to deal every day with Webcam models who would not show up for 3 days, or who would work for 45 minutes and decide to take the rest of the day off. Maybe 1 of every 50 girls who try to make the jump to online content ends up making as much as they made hooking and many of them keep hooking, because they understand about working towards goals.

You can go back to any point in history and see that wealthy guys were lavishly spending on hookers. It's nothing new and 1% of the customers don't control 100% of the market. There are plenty of girls in Medellin who have been all over the world, on some monger's dime, and they're still available at a reasonable price. I know because I've had a few..[/QUOTE]No offence taken, I read text neutrally.

I was more speaking on my observations in CTG. From what my chicas tell me, Medelin is "muy economico" so not much have changed there.

Brand new to the game. Can get laid here (USA) but as I go up in age (mid 30's) the quality has kinda gone down.

I've decided I'm doing this, I'm going to travel to a foreign country to bang hot chicks, my mind's made up, it's happening.

I've been browsing around researching and really have my heart set on Medellin. Not really interested in the Asian countries as I dated a Chinese girl for a few years, never been with a Latina though.

I'm looking to go for 10 days and try to stay under my budget of $3000. I've been considering the Hotel M as I saw multiple posts recommending it for first timers like me.

I guess I'm just here asking for any and all advice / tips / recommendations really anything people are willing to help out with.

I plan on going sometime in the next 4-6 months. I really want to take my time, do my research, plan accordingly, touch up on my Spanish, and get into a bit better shape haha.

Anyways, sorry if this is a long post or in the wrong place but thanks in advance for any help.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687310]Brand new to the game. Can get laid here (USA) but as I go up in age (mid 30's) the quality has kinda gone down.

I've decided I'm doing this, I'm going to travel to a foreign country to bang hot chicks, my mind's made up, it's happening.

I've been browsing around researching and really have my heart set on Medellin. Not really interested in the Asian countries as I dated a Chinese girl for a few years, never been with a Latina though.

I'm looking to go for 10 days and try to stay under my budget of $3000. I've been considering the Hotel M as I saw multiple posts recommending it for first timers like me.

I guess I'm just here asking for any and all advice / tips / recommendations really anything people are willing to help out with..[/QUOTE]Trust me, that wasn't a long post.

My first bit of advice is to plan on going sooner, if at all possible. If you can get that down to 6-8 weeks from now it's better. One reason is because you will have better weather. Less rain.

However, the main reason is that shit happens. Something comes along and forces you to move it back a little, then something else. Before you know it, you're pushing 50 and you still haven't gone.

Whenever you go, start tracking ticket prices now for your flight. Buying at the right time can save you 10-20%. And if you're like many of us, you'll be thinking about starting to get in better shape up til the day you're on the plane. Start today.

The Mansion is a good choice for a rookie. It's in a convenient location with several food options within walking distance, girls on site who are familiar with inexperienced mongers who don't know much Spanish. Plus, there will be guys there who can help you get started. The rooms are a bit over market rate, but not outrageous.

If you choose to stay there, make your reservation early as possible and try to be sure you get a room in M1, not M2. It's only 2 blocks away, but that hill will test you.

Depending on how much your flight costs, $3000 should be fine, unless you're going to pull 3 Mansion girls per day. If you do plan on 3 girls per day, get someone to take you on a casa run. You can do 2 casa girls for half the price of 1 Mansion girl.

A few basic tips:

1. Bring your own condoms.

2. Don't carry your wallet. Keep it locked in the safe. Only carry what you need.

3. Add WhatsApp and Google Translate to your phone.

As you think of questions, ask.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2687360]Trust me, that wasn't a long post.

My first bit of advice is to plan on going sooner, if at all possible. If you can get that down to 6-8 weeks from now it's better. One reason is because you will have better weather. Less rain.

However, the main reason is that shit happens. Something comes along and forces you to move it back a little, then something else. Before you know it, you're pushing 50 and you still haven't gone.

Whenever you go, start tracking ticket prices now for your flight. Buying at the right time can save you 10-20%. And if you're like many of us, you'll be thinking about starting to get in better shape up til the day you're on the plane. Start today.

The Mansion is a good choice for a rookie. It's in a convenient location with several food options within walking distance, girls on site who are familiar with inexperienced mongers who don't know much Spanish. Plus, there will be guys there who can help you get started. The rooms are a bit over market rate, but not outrageous..[/QUOTE]You're an absolute legend. I couldn't have asked for a better response.

You seem to know what you're talking about so I'm going to take your advice. The earliest I can manage is 10 weeks.

I guess the only other questions I really have are quality of women and prevalence of anal, that's hard to get here though it wouldn't be a deal breaker. Also potential threesomes. Like I said, complete first timer, definitely want experience the things I can't get here / live some fantasies ya know.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687464]You're an absolute legend. I couldn't have asked for a better response.

You seem to know what you're talking about so I'm going to take your advice. The earliest I can manage is 10 weeks.

I guess the only other questions I really have are quality of women and prevalence of anal, that's hard to get here though it wouldn't be a deal breaker. Also potential threesomes. Like I said, complete first timer, definitely want experience the things I can't get here / live some fantasies ya know.[/QUOTE]My initial impression on the quality of women in Medellin was that they were almost all stunning. They took care of themselves, dressed sexy and looked good. After awhile I became acclimated and got used to seeing women who weren't fat and young attractive women who would smile at some guy obviously much older. I expect you will find plenty of acceptable women at the Mansion. When I went there to check it out I wasn't disappointed.

I don't know the percentage who do anal because I'm not interested. However, it has been offered to me and many guys report having no problems finding it. YMMV.

If anal is just something you would like to add, rather than something you need to have, I recommend approaching the subject casually. The more eager you are for it, the more likely the price will go up. Girls will try to get more if they think you'll pay, but will do the same thing for free if they think it doesn't matter to you.

Threesomes are often tricky in Colombia. Getting 2 girls in your bed at the same time is easy. Getting an actual threesome is much harder. Instead you'll end up with a trio, a 2 on 1 tag team session. While one is doing you, the other will be on her phone. Then they switch.

First, avoid any girl who you haven't been with who asks to bring her friend along, unless you have a fantasy to watch some girl send messages while you're having sex with her friend. Because that's what will happen.

If you have a girl who checks all your boxes, talk to her about it, while you're still in bed. Ask if she likes girls and tell her what you want. Be specific. If she's willing, she already knows someone who will do it. Ask to see pictures and ask her to get her friend to agree to your requirements. Have them both meet you at the bar the next day with the understanding that if the other girl meets your approval, it's on, if not it's off.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2687489]My initial impression on the quality of women in Medellin was that they were almost all stunning. They took care of themselves, dressed sexy and looked good. After awhile I became acclimated and got used to seeing women who weren't fat and young attractive women who would smile at some guy obviously much older. I expect you will find plenty of acceptable women at the Mansion. When I went there to check it out I wasn't disappointed.

I don't know the percentage who do anal because I'm not interested. However, it has been offered to me and many guys report having no problems finding it. YMMV.

If anal is just something you would like to add, rather than something you need to have, I recommend approaching the subject casually. The more eager you are for it, the more likely the price will go up. Girls will try to get more if they think you'll pay, but will do the same thing for free if they think it doesn't matter to you.

Threesomes are often tricky in Colombia. Getting 2 girls in your bed at the same time is easy. Getting an actual threesome is much harder. Instead you'll end up with a trio, a 2 on 1 tag team session. While one is doing you, the other will be on her phone. Then they switch..[/QUOTE]Man, you should get a finders fee. You've totally sold me on this.

I guess I should ask some of the more important questions like general safety. Don't go out at night, don't be flashy I get but maybe some less known things could be helpful as well.

Also curious about places like la Isla and Fase dos.

Can't thank you enough for taking the time to write this up!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2687489]My initial impression on the quality of women in Medellin was that they were almost all stunning. They took care of themselves, dressed sexy and looked good. After awhile I became acclimated and got used to seeing women who weren't fat and young attractive women who would smile at some guy obviously much older. I expect you will find plenty of acceptable women at the Mansion. When I went there to check it out I wasn't disappointed.

I don't know the percentage who do anal because I'm not interested. However, it has been offered to me and many guys report having no problems finding it. YMMV.

If anal is just something you would like to add, rather than something you need to have, I recommend approaching the subject casually. The more eager you are for it, the more likely the price will go up. Girls will try to get more if they think you'll pay, but will do the same thing for free if they think it doesn't matter to you.

Threesomes are often tricky in Colombia. Getting 2 girls in your bed at the same time is easy. Getting an actual threesome is much harder. Instead you'll end up with a trio, a 2 on 1 tag team session. While one is doing you, the other will be on her phone. Then they switch.

First, avoid any girl who you haven't been with who asks to bring her friend along, unless you have a fantasy to watch some girl send messages while you're having sex with her friend. Because that's what will happen..[/QUOTE]You deserve a finders fee, you've seriously sold me.

I'm a bit curious about places like la Isla and Fase dos and really any general safety tips or advice on anything really. The more information I gather before hand the better.

How do I book there?

I went to the website it said to email, I tried to call but some guy just kept saying Hello, lmao.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687527]Man, you should get a finders fee. You've totally sold me on this.

I guess I should ask some of the more important questions like general safety. Don't go out at night, don't be flashy I get but maybe some less known things could be helpful as well.

Also curious about places like la Isla and Fase dos.

Can't thank you enough for taking the time to write this up![/QUOTE]General safety.

Staying at the Mansion you shouldn't have much to worry about. Don't leave a bunch of cash lying around in the room.

The Mansion is located 1 block off of Avenida Poblado. I've walked down that section many times at all hours of the day and night and never had a problem. You'll probably just be walking back from the local restaurants. Anything much farther, spend the $2-$3 for a taxi.

When you go to the ATM, and there's a Davivienda ATM right next to La Strada (where you'll probably have a few meals), take whatever card you're using and not your wallet. Wallets make easy to spot bulges.

I keep my pockets organized like this:

Left front pocket. Phone.

Right front pocket. Most of my cash and keys, if I have a room with a regular key.

Back left pocket. Identification. I carry my US Passport card for ID, along with pictures on my phone of my passport, and entry stamp page (and this time, vaccination card). You can have the Hotel make a copy of your passport to carry. Also my room key, if its a key card.

Back right pocket. The rest of my cash, mostly the small bills wrapped in a 50 k bill. In the event of a robbery, that's the first thing I would hand over. It's where I normally carry my wallet, so It's where I would naturally reach.

Other general safety tips:

1. Be suspicious of anyone (outside the Mansion bar) who wants to drink with you, or offers you a drink. Chances are too high they have bad intentions.

2. Be aware of your surroundings. If you need to look at your phone, step inside a business, or stop and put your back to the wall. Don't walk around with your nose glued to your phone.

3. Watch your step. There are holes and curbs where you can break an ankle.

4. Don't assume traffic will stop for pedestrians. Don't assume that traffic won't speed up if they see you trying to cross the street.

5. Always check the meter when you get in the taxi. It will be an LED display, on the rear view mirror, on the dash or on the windshield. It should read 3800 when you get in. If it's reading something higher, point it out to the driver.

La Isla and Fase 2- The prices are about the same, the talent varies depending on the night. However, the seating at Fase 2 is some of the most uncomfortable you will find. La Isla is much more comfortable. Get your waiter to give change for a 50 k bill. You'll get a stack of 2 k bills to tip with. In both places, if you want to take a girl, she will take you to the bar to pay. Rooms are on-site.

Personally, unless I'm going with a group of friends, I won't go to either one. If I'm solo and get a strip club urge, I'll go to one of the clubs in El Centro.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2687722]General safety.

Staying at the Mansion you shouldn't have much to worry about. Don't leave a bunch of cash lying around in the room.

The Mansion is located 1 block off of Avenida Poblado. I've walked down that section many times at all hours of the day and night and never had a problem. You'll probably just be walking back from the local restaurants. Anything much farther, spend the $2-$3 for a taxi.

When you go to the ATM, and there's a Davivienda ATM right next to La Strada (where you'll probably have a few meals), take whatever card you're using and not your wallet. Wallets make easy to spot bulges.

I keep my pockets organized like this:

Left front pocket. Phone..[/QUOTE]Awesome stuff.

Diet and exercise started today. Going to get the covid shot now. Looking into passport, apparently it takes 6-8 weeks. So taking the trip in 8-10 weeks seems feasible.

Not sure if you saw my post about booking at hotel m. I reached out to them via email, checking flights daily. Looks like the end of June is pretty pricey but there are some cheap ones at the start of July. Just going to keep checking in.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687706]How do I book there?

I went to the website it said to email, I tried to call but some guy just kept saying Hello, lmao.[/QUOTE]Go to the website. Click on make a reservation. Send an email to the email address listed. In the email, give them how many nights you want and a date range. Also tell them that you learned about it on ISG and that you're a member of ISG. They should respond within a day.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687745]Looking into passport, apparently it takes 6-8 weeks. So taking the trip in 8-10 weeks seems feasible.[/QUOTE]Do bear in mind that you most likely won't be able to actually book a flight until the passport comes, because you will need the number and expiration date.

Hi, does Medellin have traditional brothels? Like a place where I can walk in, girls are in front of their rooms, where I can take a look and then buy the services there?

[QUOTE=Huacho;2687770]Do bear in mind that you most likely won't be able to actually book a flight until the passport comes, because you will need the number and expiration date.[/QUOTE]Damn, that could put a damper on things! Thanks for the heads up, I set a passport appointment for this Friday. I guess I'm forming over the $60 for the expedited arrival.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2687765]Go to the website. Click on make a reservation. Send an email to the email address listed. In the email, give them how many nights you want and a date range. Also tell them that you learned about it on ISG and that you're a member of ISG. They should respond within a day.[/QUOTE]Yeah I actually did get in touch with them. They want 2-3 weeks advance and 1-2 day deposit, this the norm?

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687837]Yeah I actually did get in touch with them. They want 2-3 weeks advance and 1-2 day deposit, this the norm?[/QUOTE]Yes. They want 2 days deposit to hold the room and want the remainder in cash. I believe there is a discount for cash.

[QUOTE=Raul69;2687822]Hi, does Medellin have traditional brothels? Like a place where I can walk in, girls are in front of their rooms, where I can take a look and then buy the services there?[/QUOTE]They are referred to as "Casas." You can search for reports about them in the Medellin thread. You walk in, someone will direct you to a waiting area, then the girls will all come past you one at a time and introduce themselves. Once the lineup is finished, you'll be asked who you want. A few minutes later she will come and lead you to the room.

Most casas request payment in advance. One exception is New Life.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687745]Awesome stuff.

Diet and exercise started today. Going to get the covid shot now. Looking into passport, apparently it takes 6-8 weeks. So taking the trip in 8-10 weeks seems feasible.

Not sure if you saw my post about booking at hotel m. I reached out to them via email, checking flights daily. Looks like the end of June is pretty pricey but there are some cheap ones at the start of July. Just going to keep checking in.[/QUOTE]How was is this plan going to work where you're trying to run before you can walk?

You've done all your reading, research, planning to finally make the trip, but you don't have a passport, which means that you cannot even get a plane ticket, your not vaccinated, but your making hotel reservations?

Are you going solo?

I have to ask, are you a new applicant or renewing an expired passport?

[QUOTE=Nypher;2687864]How was is this plan going to work where you're trying to run before you can walk?

You've done all your reading, research, planning to finally make the trip, but you don't have a passport, which means that you cannot even get a plane ticket, your not vaccinated, but your making hotel reservations?

Are you going solo?

I have to ask, are you a new applicant or renewing an expired passport?[/QUOTE]I am a legit nooby, hence the name haha. First time leaving the states. I think it's good if things take a bit longer and aren't too rushed. Gives me plenty of time to make sure I'm properly prepared.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687918]I am a legit nooby, hence the name haha. First time leaving the states. I think it's good if things take a bit longer and aren't too rushed. Gives me plenty of time to make sure I'm properly prepared.[/QUOTE]First time leaving the states and your going into Medellin? Jaja.

I would strongly suggest going with someone who has been there before or meet up with someone from ISG who is a vet over there so you don't get blindsided by things that can turn your first trip into a bad one. Everyone's first trip should be an enjoyable one that makes them want to return ASAP Jajaj.

Waiting to her your adventures when you land.

Happy mongering jajaja.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687918]I am a legit nooby, hence the name haha. First time leaving the states. I think it's good if things take a bit longer and aren't too rushed. Gives me plenty of time to make sure I'm properly prepared.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with that. Until about 10 years ago I had no passport. I had been into Mexico and Canada, but back then no passport was required within the tourist zone.

Then I needed to get a passport for work. Since I was only going to be driving into Canada I just got the passport card. A few months later I decided to take my first trip to Colombia. I had to stop my trips to Canada and mail in my passport card to get a new card and passport.

It doesn't matter when you start. It only matters that you start.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687918]I am a legit nooby, hence the name haha. First time leaving the states. I think it's good if things take a bit longer and aren't too rushed. Gives me plenty of time to make sure I'm properly prepared.[/QUOTE]Do you speak Spanish? I think MDE could be a good destination for a first timer just because there is so much prostitution but the more Spanish a first timer has, the less risk he will face. Also I think the Mansion might be a good landing point but am of the opinion you do not want to stay there for ten days. Maybe three days there and a week in a hotel. First timers should not mess with apartments, Airbnb and such. Too risky.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2688181]Nothing wrong with that. Until about 10 years ago I had no passport. I had been into Mexico and Canada, but back then no passport was required within the tourist zone.

Then I needed to get a passport for work. Since I was only going to be driving into Canada I just got the passport card. A few months later I decided to take my first trip to Colombia. I had to stop my trips to Canada and mail in my passport card to get a new card and passport.

It doesn't matter when you start. It only matters that you start.[/QUOTE]Yessss this is the energy I need!

I've been looking up about the crime in Medellin and it's spooking me a bit LOL. Still moving forward with the plan, though I am considering other locations as possible alternatives for a first time trip.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687836]Damn, that could put a damper on things! Thanks for the heads up, I set a passport appointment for this Friday. I guess I'm forming over the $60 for the expedited arrival.[/QUOTE]LN, you can get a passport faster than that: [URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/get-fast.html[/URL].

Call 1-877-487-2778 from 8:00 am To 10:00 pm ET, Mondays through Fridays. Our appointment line for Urgent Travel Service is closed on weekends and federal holidays.

What you will get is a directory of places you can go to and get a passport that same day. I flew to El Paso, had an appointment at 1 PM and walked out with a new passport and passport card that same day. I recommend you get both. You can carry the card with you for an ID and leave the book in your hotel room. The card allows you to get into Mexico and Canada by land but you need the book for air travel. I also recommend that you get the passport with extra pages in it. I think my old one was 25 pages and my current one is 50.

You can just book travel and cancel it later. I booked a hotel in Mexico that was $50 a night and cancelled it so I had a travel reservation to meet the requirement of traveling in 2 weeks. The cancellation cost me nothing.

Even the expedited passport option takes 5 to 7 weeks. You have to go to a federal building yourself to get the same day passport last I checked. Before you could pay a few hundred to an agency, but that was not available last I checked.

The federal building with the most availability to get into when I checked was in El Paso, but you should call and see. Good luck.

Anyone visiting Bogota should be prepared for rain and a lot of it. This is the time of year that you can get rain everyday. The rain does wash away a lot of the litter and clears out some of the air pollution but it makes it hell to get a taxi and even prevents some girls from wanting go out. I've had a lot of girls tell me over the years and ask to reschedule on heavy rain days. You can still have a good time but I would recommend have one of your favoritas over for a night or two, bring toys and use Rappi. Jaja.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2688618]LN, you can get a passport faster than that: [URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/get-fast.html[/URL].

Call 1-877-487-2778 from 8:00 am To 10:00 pm ET, Mondays through Fridays. Our appointment line for Urgent Travel Service is closed on weekends and federal holidays.

What you will get is a directory of places you can go to and get a passport that same day. I flew to El Paso, had an appointment at 1 PM and walked out with a new passport and passport card that same day. I recommend you get both. You can carry the card with you for an ID and leave the book in your hotel room. The card allows you to get into Mexico and Canada by land but you need the book for air travel. I also recommend that you get the passport with extra pages in it. I think my old one was 25 pages and my current one is 50.

You can just book travel and cancel it later. I booked a hotel in Mexico that was $50 a night and cancelled it so I had a travel reservation to meet the requirement of traveling in 2 weeks. The cancellation cost me nothing.

Even the expedited passport option takes 5 to 7 weeks. You have to go to a federal building yourself to get the same day passport last I checked. Before you could pay a few hundred to an agency, but that was not available last I checked..[/QUOTE]Oh didn't even know about same day! I literally just got back from handing in the passport application at USPS, paid the $60 for expedited service, 5-7 weeks.

Work out and diet holding strong. Appreciate all the help from everyone here! Not this month and maybe not next month but it's happening!

The Yew Ess is so fucked up. $60 for expedited service my ass. I went to the Yew Ess Embassy in the Third World Shithole Country I currently live in, and got my Yew Ess passport renewed in 16 days. And instead of $60 for 'expedited service,' I committed to paying an unknown amount to have it sent to Paradise City where I live, instead of going back to Shit Hole Capital. The unknown amount eventually translated to about five US dollars.

My amigovia here has four passports and I am [B]so [/B]jealous.

It seems I have a problem every time I need to fill out the Check Mig form and it always turns out to be something I did wrong.

The first time, I had selected the wrong Medellin airport. I spent 10 minutes before I looked where the form thought I was going. This time, by habit I picked the right Medellin airport, except I'm entering through Bogota.

After that problem it still wouldn't go through. I wasn't entering the flight number correctly. I forgot to eliminate the leading zero. For example, if your flight number is DL0555, the flight number to enter is just 555.0555 won't work.

It's done, accepted and confirmed. Just need to put in about 26 hours of work before Tuesday morning and I'm all set.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2689571]It seems I have a problem every time I need to fill out the Check Mig form and it always turns out to be something I did wrong.

The first time, I had selected the wrong Medellin airport. I spent 10 minutes before I looked where the form thought I was going. This time, by habit I picked the right Medellin airport, except I'm entering through Bogota.

After that problem it still wouldn't go through. I wasn't entering the flight number correctly. I forgot to eliminate the leading zero. For example, if your flight number is DL0555, the flight number to enter is just 555.0555 won't work.[/QUOTE]Helllll yeaaaaa, be safe, enjoy yourself, and keep us updated! Not only with the women but anything! If you get a chance of course!

Please advise on the latest Covid-19 regulations.

[QUOTE=Shamester;2689909]Please advise on the latest Covid-19 regulations.[/QUOTE]Where? What areas of regulation - travel, restaurants, vaccine, etc?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2689571]It seems I have a problem every time I need to fill out the Check Mig form and it always turns out to be something I did wrong.

The first time, I had selected the wrong Medellin airport. I spent 10 minutes before I looked where the form thought I was going. This time, by habit I picked the right Medellin airport, except I'm entering through Bogota.

After that problem it still wouldn't go through. I wasn't entering the flight number correctly. I forgot to eliminate the leading zero. For example, if your flight number is DL0555, the flight number to enter is just 555.0555 won't work.

It's done, accepted and confirmed. Just need to put in about 26 hours of work before Tuesday morning and I'm all set.[/QUOTE]Of all the stupid things these Country's do this Check Mig form rates up there with the USA giving you only one day to get the covid test. In GYE my flight was for a Monday. I had a hard time finding a place on Sunday to get the test. This would be so simple if they would do it like when they first had Covid problems before there was no vaccination. As I entered BOG all they did was give everyone a temperture check. If I was King of the world I would mandate Temp checks and a completed vaccination Form. No stupid test and you avoid the possible false test results.

[QUOTE=Shamester;2689909]Please advise on the latest Covid-19 regulations.[/QUOTE]What other up to date COVID information are you looking for that is not listed on the official Embassy site?

[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2690054]Of all the stupid things these Country's do this Check Mig form rates up there[/QUOTE]How is that? You have to fill out immigration forms for most countries you go to. With Checkmig you are just doing it electronically. So you want to go back to doing the longer 2 paper forms instead of the short electronic form?

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2690054]If I was King of the world I would mandate Temp checks and a completed vaccination Form. No stupid test and you avoid the possible false test results.[/QUOTE]And that is exactly what they would do if the vaccines really worked at a reliable rate. But since they make you have a test as well, that should tell you something.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2690054]Of all the stupid things these Country's do this Check Mig form rates up there with the USA giving you only one day to get the covid test. In GYE my flight was for a Monday. I had a hard time finding a place on Sunday to get the test. This would be so simple if they would do it like when they first had Covid problems before there was no vaccination. As I entered BOG all they did was give everyone a temperture check. If I was King of the world I would mandate Temp checks and a completed vaccination Form. No stupid test and you avoid the possible false test results.[/QUOTE]Always seem to have a problem with this crudely designed form. I actually got so pissed off by this form during the early days of the pandemic I cancelled my trip the day of. Once I couldn't even find an occupation for sales! So I started putting down I was a Nuclear Scientist and it took it jaja However I did have much better luck doing the form on my I-phone rather than my laptop.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/medidas-contra-el-covid-lo-que-necesitan-los-viajeros-para-ingresar-a-colombia-GN17299690[/URL]..[quote]A partir del 1 de mayo cambiaran en Colombia las medidas contra el covid-19 y las condiciones para los viajeros no son la excepcion. El Ministerio de Salud anuncio que ahora las personas provenientes de otros paises podran ingresar con una prueba negativa de PCR o antigenos, sin necesidad de contar con el esquema completo de vacunacion.

Entre las aclaraciones, Minsalud explic que el test tendra que practicarse en las 72 horas anteriores a la llegada a Colombia 48 horas si es prueba de antigenos. Ademas, se mantendra la opcion de presentar el esquema de vacunacion completo, sin requerir una prueba adicional. [/quote].

But as I always tell my fellow travelers, if its not on the embassy site then take it with caution as the Airline has to be informed and update their policies as well as Migracion.

[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL]

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2690269]Always seem to have a problem with this crudely designed form. I actually got so pissed off by this form during the early days of the pandemic I cancelled my trip the day of. Once I couldn't even find an occupation for sales! So I started putting down I was a Nuclear Scientist and it took it jaja.[/QUOTE]Yes you can put down anything as a job the same as you can do for where you are staying. That is for statistics purposes. The system does not know you. Why would you be surprised that it was accepted?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2689941]Where? What areas of regulation - travel, restaurants, vaccine, etc?[/QUOTE]My question is for international travelers entering Colombia. Is a shot card showing 2 shots and a booster sufficient for entry?

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2690269]Always seem to have a problem with this crudely designed form. I actually got so pissed off by this form during the early days of the pandemic I cancelled my trip the day of. Once I couldn't even find an occupation for sales! So I started putting down I was a Nuclear Scientist and it took it jaja However I did have much better luck doing the form on my I-phone rather than my laptop.[/QUOTE]It is poorly designed. It would be much better if, after entering name it had you enter airline and flight number (and it understood that 0555 and 555 are the same number). At that point it knows your port of entry.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2690285]Yes you can put down anything as a job the same as you can do for where you are staying. That is for statistics purposes. The system does not know you. Why would you be surprised that it was accepted?[/QUOTE]Nothing surprises me in Colombia anymore.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2690269]Always seem to have a problem with this crudely designed form. I actually got so pissed off by this form during the early days of the pandemic I cancelled my trip the day of. Once I couldn't even find an occupation for sales! So I started putting down I was a Nuclear Scientist and it took it jaja However I did have much better luck doing the form on my I-phone rather than my laptop.[/QUOTE]LOL. When I took a friend to Colombia, I filled my form out no problem. He was using his phone and for whatever reason, checkMIG would not take any of his email accounts. I just said "Fuck it. Put mine in. " and it worked. Why? Who the fuck knows?

[QUOTE=Shamester;2690299]My question is for international travelers entering Colombia. Is a shot card showing 2 shots and a booster sufficient for entry?[/QUOTE]Your shot card is good, but no booster needed. Fully vaccinated, one shot of J&J, two shots of the others.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2690375]LOL. When I took a friend to Colombia, I filled my form out no problem. He was using his phone and for whatever reason, checkMIG would not take any of his email accounts. I just said "Fuck it. Put mine in. " and it worked. Why? Who the fuck knows?[/QUOTE]Because he had a space after it. It will not work if it is.

Has anyone been to any tours or caught a soccer game in medellin.

I am going in September for a week.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2690383]Your shot card is good, but no booster needed. Fully vaccinated, one shot of J&J, two shots of the others.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Does Colombia require a negative covid 19 test for entry?

[QUOTE=Havana927;2690488]Has anyone been to any tours or caught a soccer game in medellin.

I am going in September for a week.[/QUOTE]I went to a soccer / fútbol game and it was a great time but don't sit in the student or young peoples area unless you are a kid. They stand up and sing and dance the whole game. While it's fun to be in the middle of it all, it is also tough standing the whole game. Getting into their section also takes a long time due to all the searches.

It was a great time for me and I would say do it without a doubt.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687918]I am a legit nooby, hence the name haha. First time leaving the states. I think it's good if things take a bit longer and aren't too rushed. Gives me plenty of time to make sure I'm properly prepared.[/QUOTE]Preparation is a good thing. How's your Spanish? I only scanned the posts. Here's my point. You can plan and prepare and then within a half a day of getting here be faced with a slew of scenarios that were not on your radar. Not disasters, but I gave up "planning" for Medellin a long time ago. Yes, it's a good idea to have a hotel reservation before you get there. Concentrate on the broad strokes and stay open to the possibilities. One of my sayings is, "Don't ask what you have planned for Medellin, ask what Medellin has planned for you".

I booked a return ticket today to Medellin. The feedback I am getting from my chicas is too irresistible to ignore. My Numero Dos Novia, Scarlet, is in her childhood home alone, and has been more or less abandoned by the rest of her family. She's a big girl. She has said we can fill those four bedrooms with as many chicas as I want, not strangers but friends of hers I have known for a year or more.

I seem to have cracked the code to an El Centro puta hotel that normally doesn't do in-calls, but my favorite physical pussy is contacting me every day from there to stay with her as long as I want, all I have to do is pay the room rate at 25.000 COP per day, jeje. Of course I would give her more than $6 USD per day, it would be slimy of me not to.

My friend Secret is still recruiting Nubile Newbies who want to get into the P4 P game. I have permission from Secret to call any of the NN's direct without going thru her. For fun I will try to see if I can find a foto of each NN, there should be four so far. NNN1-4 or Nublie Newbie Number One, Two, Three and Four.

Numero Uno Catgirl is going to let me choose the girl for our next trio, for a change. Up until now they have all been her girlfriends.

And much more. I couldn't take it any more, sitting here in pussy prison. So I bought a one-way ticket to MDE.

The above scenarios amount to little more than fantasies at this point. Fantasies that motivated me to buy the ticket, but I know from experience once I get there everything could be different. The girls relocate, move, disappear, find a new lover, male or female. I go from being desirable to replaceable to expendable, jeje. The beauty is, whatever develops or ends up happening is often just as fun and exciting if not more so, than what held my attention in the first place.

Once you get here you will quickly realize, "We are not in Kansas anymore, Toto."

Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On.

[QUOTE=Shamester;2690663]Thanks. Does Colombia require a negative covid 19 test for entry?[/QUOTE]If you have had only 1 shot of a 2 shot vaccine, or if it's been less than 14 days since your second shot a negative PCR test is required. However, the vaccination requirement is rumored to be ending May 1.

[QUOTE=Shamester;2690663]Thanks. Does Colombia require a negative covid 19 test for entry?[/QUOTE]To answer you question, Yes a negative COVID test is required for entry.

Visit Colombias official Embassy site and read what the COVID entry requirements are as no one knows your vaccine status. [URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Nypher;2691040]To answer you question, Yes a negative COVID test is required for entry.

Visit Colombias official Embassy site and read what the COVID entry requirements are as no one knows your vaccine status. [URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Pretty sure that's not true.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2691167]Pretty sure that's not true.[/QUOTE]I just showed my vaccine card to enter Colombia in February. That seems to be old info. As far as I know entry into Colombia they only accept a vaccine card now. It's still true to enter the USA you will need a negative Antigen test with 1 day prior to entry.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2691167]Pretty sure that's not true.[/QUOTE]I'm 100% positive you're correct.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2691167]Pretty sure that's not true.[/QUOTE]It's true based on how OP asked the question as OP did not say when they were fully vaccinated, or if they are in the process of being vaccinated.

It's tricky to answer a vague question without knowing OP vax status which is why I provided the link to the embassy site so they can see if they needed a COVID test or not based on their vax status.

At JjBee62 broke down the information on the embassy site in detail when a COVID test is needed to enter Colombia which is listed on the embassy site listed under Entry and Exit Requirements at the second bullet point.

But all this won't really matter on Sunday as articles started vaccinates are no longer required to enter Colombia. So if OP is set to travel after May 1st, then they are all clear as no vax card or test is required. I would still bring the card though but that's just me as it's better to have the card and get through than not have it and be denied.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2687918]I am a legit nooby, hence the name haha. First time leaving the states. I think it's good if things take a bit longer and aren't too rushed. Gives me plenty of time to make sure I'm properly prepared.[/QUOTE]Book a flight to San Diego.

Cross into Tijuana and stay at Cascadas.

And get your feet wet.

Captain Solo can show you around he's a great monger there.

Not many know more about Tijuana than him.

I've been going there a long time but I think he lives an hour north and has been going every weekend for 35 yrs!

You won't regret it!

To the fellows who have sampled the various destinations, if you were back in your early 30's and had the chance to retire on $2500 USD passive income per month, where would you choose? More specifically, I'm having the hardest time figuring out where the attitudes of the population are fun, welcoming and friendly to be around.

The amount of income needed depends on your lifestyle and how much of that is taxed. As a general rule of thumb, I'd say your money goes 2.5 to 3 x as far in Colombia as the USA So $2500/ mth is similar to $80,000 to $90,000 lifestyle in the USA.

$2500 should be fine if you live a basic lifestyle with no car (expensive in Colombia), nice 2 bedroom in safe area, eat out regularly, and a couple dates a week. If you're not fluent in Spanish and haven't been to Colombia frequently I would suggest Medellin to start and look at Laureles and maybe Poblado (after you figure out your budget). It's getting more expensive, but the Paisa attitude is pretty chill and there are enough gringos around that you could find a social group.

Check out Medellin Guru for more info. I personally think I'd be bored to death if I retired that early, but to each their own!

[QUOTE=MikeBen78;2692277]To the fellows who have sampled the various destinations, if you were back in your early 30's and had the chance to retire on $2500 USD passive income per month, where would you choose? More specifically, I'm having the hardest time figuring out where the attitudes of the population are fun, welcoming and friendly to be around.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MikeBen78;2692277]To the fellows who have sampled the various destinations, if you were back in your early 30's and had the chance to retire on $2500 USD passive income per month, where would you choose? [/QUOTE]Pattaya, Thailand for me.

[QUOTE=MikeBen78;2692277]To the fellows who have sampled the various destinations, if you were back in your early 30's and had the chance to retire on $2500 USD passive income per month, where would you choose? More specifically, I'm having the hardest time figuring out where the attitudes of the population are fun, welcoming and friendly to be around.[/QUOTE]Depends who will give you residency. Montenegro is pretty flexible and has some good looking women. Kotor or Budva, perhaps. Chile will let you in. Valparaíso or Viña del Mar.

[QUOTE=MikeBen78;2692277]To the fellows who have sampled the various destinations, if you were back in your early 30's and had the chance to retire on $2500 USD passive income per month, where would you choose? More specifically, I'm having the hardest time figuring out where the attitudes of the population are fun, welcoming and friendly to be around.[/QUOTE]My top 3 places:

3 hours direct to POP.

5 Hours direct to CTG.

20 hours with a transfer in DXB to BKK.

I'm far from 40 and if its $2500 a month it would be Pattaya Thailand, The money goes further and the girls are on their best behavior where if the gringo does not go looking for trouble to get set up and extorted he will not find it. Also once I got away from the bar girl scene and went to freelancer clubs I just had a much better experience where many girls were willing to do it for free and was not all about P4P, they just wanted a good time and some foreign chocolate jajaja.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I really appreciate your input and it's been the most interesting suggestions I've gotten so far!

I've been reading the forums as a lurker for a few months and it's been really interesting to see that all the mongers in SE Asia say South America is the new paradise. Although several of you recommended Thailand, the SE Asia mongers are leaving that scene and are adamant it has been ruined.

I'll definitely do more research on Chile and Montenegro, but I would be lying if I told you I wasn't partial to Medellin. The weather alone is a huge attraction for Medellin, but my biggest concern is knowing very basic Spanish (not enough to carry a full conversation). I'm sure I can pick it up relatively quick at my age but it's still a concern.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=MikeBen78;2692720]Thanks everyone for the feedback. I really appreciate your input and it's been the most interesting suggestions I've gotten so far!

I've been reading the forums as a lurker for a few months and it's been really interesting to see that all the mongers in SE Asia say South America is the new paradise. Although several of you recommended Thailand, the SE Asia mongers are leaving that scene and are adamant it has been ruined.

I'll definitely do more research on Chile and Montenegro, but I would be lying if I told you I wasn't partial to Medellin. The weather alone is a huge attraction for Medellin, but my biggest concern is knowing very basic Spanish (not enough to carry a full conversation). I'm sure I can pick it up relatively quick at my age but it's still a concern.

Thanks again![/QUOTE]Its amazing how many of the SEA mongers you observe saying that its ruined and Latin America is the new paradise so they will head there, but then they go to Latin America and do the same shit that ruined SEA. Its similar to the guys in Miami, NYC, and ATL saying the local girls are too entitled because others are throwing money recklessly so they travel to DR to get away from it but since the exchange rate makes their little money go a long way, now they start throwing money recklessly which in turn make the girls become too entitled. Jajaja its a vicious cycle.

I remember my first trip to SEA I was at the bar and backpackers twice my age was saying how us new travelers messed up everything by offering money needlessly for everything so in turn police were now trying to arrest foreigners to get bribes, or taxis were not turning on the meter and just say a fair that was 4 x the meter amount.

Uganda, Tanzania, or Nigeria is next to become ruined.

[QUOTE=MikeBen78;2692720]The weather alone is a huge attraction for Medellin, but my biggest concern is knowing very basic Spanish.[/QUOTE]Very, very rare to have such a narrow, comfortable, year-round, range in temperature, which is the usual dominant weather feature wherever you are in the world. We are close enough to the equator and at elevation but not too high, which is the reason for the season.

We just finished the rainiest month of the year, April. I grew up in Tampa Bay, Florida and the total rainfall per year was roughly the same, depending on your source. One feature about the rain in Medellin I have never seen mentioned is the large amount that falls between midnight and sunrise, which I consider a plus.

As my grandma used to say, unless you're made of sugar you're not going to melt when it rains, and it will be neither freezing or sweltering here when it does.

As far as learning Spanish, there is no better proven method than "immersion" or being forced to use it because of where you are living of visiting. And stop for a moment and think about learning Spanish compared to Thai or Vietnamese or any SE Asian language, and the benefit becomes more obvious.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2612483]Correction. Someone recently stated in the Medellin thread that the 50,000 bill is the largest. Nope. 100,000. I have seen 3 but not had one in my hands yet. I am surprised that one of the two week millionaires or guys living here never corrected it, but my Cheap Charlie ass knows of its existence.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/negocios/billetes-de-cien-mil-pesos-poca-circulacion-FJ7193968[/URL]

Since March 31 of last year, the Banco de la Repblica put into circulation a first group of $ 100,000 bills. However, to this day the paper money that bears the image of former President Carlos Lleras Restrepo and the wax palm has been a ghost among Colombians' cash. *Surely, you are one of the majority group of those who have not seen them, which opens a discussion about whether it was a good idea or not to bring them to the market.

At the end of 2016, the Issuer reported that 44.2 million of these pieces were printed in its annual production, although it is a print run that was not released in its entirety to such an extent that, at present, there are only on the streets 5.2 million of these banknotes, that is 11%.[/QUOTE]Yeah, these big bills suck! I hit up the Cali airport ATM a couple weeks back for 600 k and it gave me six of the 100 k COP bills! Thankfully I had smaller bills from prior trips for the cab. I could only break the 100 k at the casas and strip clubs, so I guess the ATM knew where I was heading!

[QUOTE=Nypher;2692947]others are throwing money recklessly so they travel to DR to get away from it but since the exchange rate makes their little money go a long way, now they start throwing money recklessly which in turn make the girls become too entitled. Jajaja its a vicious cycle.

Uganda, Tanzania, or Nigeria is next to become ruined.[/QUOTE]First, there's much more than the exchange rate that goes into cost of living and standard of living, mainly price. Even if you get a a million plunkets for one dollar, [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue].

I won't comment about how spending creates an atmosphere of entitlement among sex workers or makes cops want to seek bribes. Those are fairly specific examples you used. I don't have enough knowledge of all the markets you mentioned, either. The Dominican Republic is a much smaller place than Colombia and perhaps the supply of wet holes was unable to keep up with the demand by swinging dicks, and that will drive up price in a free marked every time.

However, Colombia is much larger place and the sex worker trade is a free market, and price is determined by supply and demand, and not by what mongers spend. You did not specifically mention the price of Pay for Play, so maybe that was not what you meant when you talked about markets getting "ruined" but I think that is at the core for most mongers.

Ostee Out.

[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL]

[QUOTE]As of May 1, 2022, visitors to Colombia ages 18 or older will need to provide proof of complete vaccination for entry or a negative COVID test (48 hours in advance of travel for an antigen test or 72 hours in advance of travel for a PCR test). Travelers should be prepared to show their original, physical vaccination card or digital certificate both at airline check-in and when passing through Colombian Immigration. The vaccination document must include the individual’s full name, date of vaccination, name of the vaccine administered, and the number of doses administered. A photo of one’s vaccination card may not be accepted. If you completed your vaccination scheme within 14 days before entry to Colombia you will also need to have an antigen test 48 hours prior to arrival or a PCR test 72 hours prior to arrival in Colombia. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2693268]First, there's much more than the exchange rate that goes into cost of living and standard of living, mainly price. Even if you get a a million plunkets for one dollar.

I won't comment about how spending creates an atmosphere of entitlement among sex workers or makes cops want to seek bribes. Those are fairly specific examples you used. I don't have enough knowledge of all the markets you mentioned, either. The Dominican Republic is a much smaller place than Colombia and perhaps the supply of wet holes was unable to keep up with the demand by swinging dicks, and that will drive up price in a free marked every time.

However, Colombia is much larger place and the sex worker trade is a free market, and price is determined by supply and demand, and not by what mongers spend. You did not specifically mention the price of Pay for Play, so maybe that was not what you meant when you talked about markets getting "ruined" but I think that is at the core for most mongers..[/QUOTE]When I mentioned "ruined" it was outside the pay for play world.

Examples I given in, Thailand were of gringos recklessly throwing money caused cabs to not turn on the meter when they see a gringo even though its illegal for then to do that, or cops looking to arrest gringos for bribes. No one wants to go to Thai prison, no one. Jajaja.

In Sosua throwing extra money caused motoconchos (moto taxi) usually it 50 peosos maybe even 100 pesos max to go from Playa Sosua to Anvhee or vice versa, but gringo comes along and its all of a sudden 200 pesos. (little to gringos, but allot to a local).

This is already effecting Cartagena where prices are higher where gringos frequent such as Playa Hollywood, as opposed to a 5 minute walk on the same beach toward to ElLaguito where many gringos don't go, the same exact menu items are cheaper. Or my favourite is when the club where the gringos frequent all of a sudden stop serving domestic beers and only have imported more expensive beers after a certain time at night.

I'm not sure if Medelin was effected as I've never been and I doubt there are gringos stupid enough to throw money in the air there (literary) the way they do in DR clubs or Cartagena clubs (Personally I've seen this in Dolce and Delirium and videos online of them even doing it at the ClockTower).

We'll, I've been checking my passport status every day basically since I initially handed in the application and made my first post. Since then I've been researching, getting in shape, and trying to plan a trip.

Initially I was all in on Colombia, though after research I must admit I've definitely been mulling over other options, though I'm still leaning pretty heavily towards Medellin (considering Costa Rica, Brazil, and Dominican Republic).

At first I planned for the first week of July. Now it seems I'll be able to go in as early as 4-5 weeks.

So idk, I guess it's going to happen a bit earlier than I anticipated. Prolly still lookin at hotel m. 9 ish day trip.

I guess hit me with any last minute preparations, need to knows, or anything else.

So far basically what I've gathered:

Use Uber over taxis.

Don't wave money around.

Don't wear jewelry.

Buy a cheap burner phone for public use / don't use phone in public.

Don't go far at night.

Don't go to clubs alone.

Be aware of your surroundings.

Keep your valuables locked in the safe.

Only carry what you can afford to lose.

Don't let anyone give you a drink / touch your drink / accept an already open drink.

Tip security and tell them not to let a girl leave unless she's escorted by you.

That's basically my general safety list. Def want to have a good time but also be careful. As my trip looks like it's getting moved ahead quite a bit for sure would like to get all bases covered ASAP.

As always appreciate the insight you guys have offered.

Special shout out to jbee. You might not have said much but it actually motivated the fuck out of me. I'm nervous but ready.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2694087]We'll, I've been checking my passport status every day basically since I initially handed in the application and made my first post. Since then I've been researching, getting in shape, and trying to plan a trip.

Initially I was all in on Colombia, though after research I must admit I've definitely been mulling over other options, though I'm still leaning pretty heavily towards Medellin (considering Costa Rica, Brazil, and Dominican Republic).

At first I planned for the first week of July. Now it seems I'll be able to go in as early as 4-5 weeks.

So idk, I guess it's going to happen a bit earlier than I anticipated. Prolly still lookin at hotel m. 9 ish day trip.

I guess hit me with any last minute preparations, need to knows, or anything else.

So far basically what I've gathered:

Use Uber over taxis.

Don't wave money around.

Don't wear jewelry..[/QUOTE]If you're staying at Hotel M, you can dismiss most of your worries. Don't leave your valuables out and that's about it. The girls there are aware that they need to behave.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2694087]We'll, I've been checking my passport status every day basically since I initially handed in the application and made my first post. Since then I've been researching, getting in shape, and trying to plan a trip.

Initially I was all in on Colombia, though after research I must admit I've definitely been mulling over other options, though I'm still leaning pretty heavily towards Medellin (considering Costa Rica, Brazil, and Dominican Republic).

At first I planned for the first week of July. Now it seems I'll be able to go in as early as 4-5 weeks.

So idk, I guess it's going to happen a bit earlier than I anticipated. Prolly still lookin at hotel m. 9 ish day trip.

I guess hit me with any last minute preparations, need to knows, or anything else.

So far basically what I've gathered:

Use Uber over taxis.

Don't wave money around.

Don't wear jewelry.

Buy a cheap burner phone for public use / don't use phone in public.

Don't go far at night.

Don't go to clubs alone.

Be aware of your surroundings.

Keep your valuables locked in the safe.

Only carry what you can afford to lose.

Don't let anyone give you a drink / touch your drink / accept an already open drink.

Tip security and tell them not to let a girl leave unless she's escorted by you.

That's basically my general safety list. Def want to have a good time but also be careful. As my trip looks like it's getting moved ahead quite a bit for sure would like to get all bases covered ASAP.

As always appreciate the insight you guys have offered.

Special shout out to jbee. You might not have said much but it actually motivated the fuck out of me. I'm nervous but ready.[/QUOTE]If so and the Del Rey is still open I would say try CR first. I haven't been following your posts but I am assuming your just getting into the hobby. Go to the Del Rey and get your feet wet. CR is like Monger college LOL see. Are. Is good for a newbee because you can hit the ground running. Colombia, Peru and and Brasil for sure, may be roo much for a first time, depending on the city. BUT it sounds like you have been doing your homework and you have gotten lots of good advice. So make your decision, have fun and be safe.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2694298]If you're staying at Hotel M, you can dismiss most of your worries. Don't leave your valuables out and that's about it. The girls there are aware that they need to behave.[/QUOTE]Assuming I go to Medellin, I will be at Hotel M for sure. I am curious if I'll be able to invite other girls that aren't working the hotel in, like for instance if I find girls from a website which BTW I would love to know some reputable sites if you guys have any suggestions.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2694406]If so and the Del Rey is still open I would say try CR first. I haven't been following your posts but I am assuming your just getting into the hobby. Go to the Del Rey and get your feet wet. CR is like Monger college LOL see. Are. Is good for a newbee because you can hit the ground running. Colombia, Peru and and Brasil for sure, may be roo much for a first time, depending on the city. BUT it sounds like you have been doing your homework and you have gotten lots of good advice. So make your decision, have fun and be safe.[/QUOTE]In addition to the Del Rey, I'd consider Panama City. Hit up Don Julios and some of the other clubs, couple massage / spas. There should be a map in that area of the board, just need to verify what's still open from posts. I usually stay at the Hyatt (like 1. 5 blocks from Don Julios) and one girl per day was fine with no upcharge as long as you book for 2. Now the cost is higher in Panama, typically $100-$150 for ST, and almost always covered, but quality very high. You can use USD, and girls have some knowledge of English. Also guys there to help you out. As you get more comfortable there you can try other spots.

If you do go to Costa Rica then I would check on the latest for the Del Rey. I haven't been to that area in 6 years, but I did understand that much of it has shut down. In addition to the Del Rey you can also spend a few days in Jaco and hit up the Hotel Cocal. It's generally packed as well with girls from all over latin america. I haven't been in some time, but another more tame environment and similar price range. Plus you have the beach and plenty of outdoor activities. The only downside is that Hotel Cocal is overpriced and many other hotels in the area are as well. You can easily spend $120-$150/ nt for a hotel.

Good luck with all and be safe!

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2694469]In addition to the Del Rey, I'd consider Panama City. Hit up Don Julios and some of the other clubs, couple massage / spas. There should be a map in that area of the board, just need to verify what's still open from posts. I usually stay at the Hyatt (like 1. 5 blocks from Don Julios) and one girl per day was fine with no upcharge as long as you book for 2. Now the cost is higher in Panama, typically $100-$150 for ST, and almost always covered, but quality very high. You can use USD, and girls have some knowledge of English. Also guys there to help you out. As you get more comfortable there you can try other spots.

If you do go to Costa Rica then I would check on the latest for the Del Rey. I haven't been to that area in 6 years, but I did understand that much of it has shut down. In addition to the Del Rey you can also spend a few days in Jaco and hit up the Hotel Cocal. It's generally packed as well with girls from all over latin america. I haven't been in some time, but another more tame environment and similar price range. Plus you have the beach and plenty of outdoor activities. The only downside is that Hotel Cocal is overpriced and many other hotels in the area are as well. You can easily spend $120-$150/ nt for a hotel.

Good luck with all and be safe![/QUOTE]
It's been a decade or two since my last trip to Jaco, is the Beetle bar still open? Although CR is in the thick part of their rainy season, the beach is always an added plus to trips. The few times I looked at reports on Costa Rica It seemed they were having some strict protocols during the pandemic and was slow coming back. Check newest trip reports.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2694466]Assuming I go to Medellin, I will be at Hotel M for sure. I am curious if I'll be able to invite other girls that aren't working the hotel in, like for instance if I find girls from a website which BTW I would love to know some reputable sites if you guys have any suggestions.[/QUOTE]Yes. You can bring outside girls in as long as they have their cedula. The only exception would be girls who have been banned from Hotel M.

Passport came today, it's in my hand. I put in my request for time off, hope it'll be approved by the end of this week. Then I'll be looking at booking flights and making reservations.

I'm going the last week of June, Friday the 24th I believe until Sunday July 1st.

I'm still not 100 on DR or Colombia but I was looking at plane tickets today and they were almost exactly the same, about $800 round trip. If that's the case I will for sure be going to Medellin over Sosua as the women of Colombia seem to be much more attractive than DR, in my eyes at least.

Ya, idk. It's happening. I'll be in Poblado and Parque Lleras 90% of the time. Def interested in at least a couple tours around, otherwise I'll end up spending literally all my time in a room fucking.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2695291]Passport came today, it's in my hand. I put in my request for time off, hope it'll be approved by the end of this week. Then I'll be looking at booking flights and making reservations.

I'm going the last week of June, Friday the 24th I believe until Sunday July 1st.

I'm still not 100 on DR or Colombia but I was looking at plane tickets today and they were almost exactly the same, about $800 round trip. If that's the case I will for sure be going to Medellin over Sosua as the women of Colombia seem to be much more attractive than DR, in my eyes at least.

Ya, idk. It's happening. I'll be in Poblado and Parque Lleras 90% of the time. Def interested in at least a couple tours around, otherwise I'll end up spending literally all my time in a room fucking.[/QUOTE]$800 round trip!? Holy shit!

That ticket price is twice as much as it is normally. Usually it's about $200 max to fly out and about $300 max to fly back in unless your flying out of nowhere in the middle of America and have to make a transfer in Miami. Good fucking luck if you do have to make a transfer in Miami. I've had enough horror stories connecting at that airport to avoid transferring at it at all costs. Straight flight or I'm not going anywhere.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2695498]$800 round trip!? Holy shit!

That ticket price is twice as much as it is normally. Usually it's about $200 max to fly out and about $300 max to fly back in unless your flying out of nowhere in the middle of America[/QUOTE]That's about what it was when I checked a month ago, I guess it's more expensive in the summer? Flying out of bwi.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2694501]It's been a decade or two since my last trip to Jaco, is the Beetle bar still open? Although CR is in the thick part of their rainy season, the beach is always an added plus to trips. The few times I looked at reports on Costa Rica It seemed they were having some strict protocols during the pandemic and was slow coming back. Check newest trip reports.[/QUOTE]Beetle bar has been gone for several years now.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2695590]Beetle bar has been gone for several years now.[/QUOTE]As far as I know it's mostly the Hotel Cocal now. There were a couple dance clubs on the outskirts with part-time girls, but I think Covid killed those off.

[QUOTE=LegitNooby;2695291]Passport came today, it's in my hand. I put in my request for time off, hope it'll be approved by the end of this week. Then I'll be looking at booking flights and making reservations.

I'm going the last week of June, Friday the 24th I believe until Sunday July 1st.

I'm still not 100 on DR or Colombia but I was looking at plane tickets today and they were almost exactly the same, about $800 round trip. If that's the case I will for sure be going to Medellin over Sosua as the women of Colombia seem to be much more attractive than DR, in my eyes at least.

Ya, idk. It's happening. I'll be in Poblado and Parque Lleras 90% of the time. Def interested in at least a couple tours around, otherwise I'll end up spending literally all my time in a room fucking.[/QUOTE]Go to Medellin, the people who travel to Sosua are obnoxious as hell. Especially the 1's that fly in on jet blue from New York for the weekend.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2696042]Go to Medellin, the people who travel to Sosua are obnoxious as hell. Especially the 1's that fly in on jet blue from New York for the weekend.[/QUOTE]Can confirm which is why on weekends I stay away from Centro. Every plane trip down it's either the hood travel bros or hood surgery sisters and they are loud. You can clearly hear their entire conversation from 10 feet.

Also never go on a holiday weekend where the clowns can get an extra day off work to do more clown shit like in the video below. They won't dare do clown stuff like that in Medellin.

[URL]https://youtu.be/eAHEjxiw9xw[/URL]

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2695590]Beetle bar has been gone for several years now.[/QUOTE]Is Bar Idem still open In SJ?

[QUOTE=Nypher;2697742]Can confirm which is why on weekends I stay away from Centro. Every plane trip down it's either the hood travel bros or hood surgery sisters and they are loud. You can clearly hear their entire conversation from 10 feet.

Also never go on a holiday weekend where the clowns can get an extra day off work to do more clown shit like in the video below. They won't dare do clown stuff like that in Medellin.

[URL]https://youtu.be/eAHEjxiw9xw[/URL][/QUOTE]Exactly, they must be starved for attention or something.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2698264]Is Bar Idem still open In SJ?[/QUOTE]It was closed and looked like it was gone. But I heard rumors it may be back, but really not sure.

From the US prospective.

1) Get Google Fi.

2) If you have T-Moble plan such as Magenta, you get internet services in many countries including Colombia. Problem is that it is limited and it's 3 G.

3) Pay high fees and pay for roaming from Verizon and other providers.

4) Get local SIM when you exit the international baggage area in Bogota airport. It is the first store you see. But the price is very expensive. You know the price is expensive because it is priced in US dollars. Lowest level was about US $20 for a few gigs; price was about double for about a quarter of what you can get with Claro.

5) Best option (for value): get pre-paid plan with Claro (or with other providers). Problem is that it's somewhat inconvenient since you can't get it at the airport.

Warning: You can get ripped off. I got scammed. I should have known.

I did something new. I went to a store west of Santa Fe. It was on the second level with a Claro sign. I thought it was an official Claro store, but it was just a Claro payment center. Inside, a few people pretend to be to Claro employees. They have Claro shirts. Those MFers! I attempted to get Claro service. But they said that foreign phones are not allowed to get Claro service. That is a fuckin LIE. They want to sell you their phones. They even took my passport and pretended to check their computers. They have an act. That place scam foreigners.

Not sure why I did this, but I paid for a SIM card from them. Got charged 10 mil. Another scam. Price is 3 mil at the Claro store. Then I loaded the 40 mil package. It didn't work. Only got the unlimited social apps enabled. Internet, text, and phone did not work. Later I was told it was because the SIM card was "not unauthorized".

Here are the facts. SIM cards you get from the street has to be registered with a local ID. It can work IF the seller adds an authorized ID. But be careful if you use this option. I remember a poster saying his credits got erased, probably after the seller reported it lost.

This is what I always do. I go to the Andino Mall (or go to any OFFICIAL Claro store). They have a big, official Claro store on the second level. They have great customer service that will help you. I get the pre-paid package of 40 mil. You get 12 gigs and unlimited phone and text for 30 days. They have other packages which are cheaper. SIM is 3 mil. You need a passport. A copy of my passport has always been accepted.

Just a reminder, Sunday is an election day. All alcohol sales are prohibited between 4 pm Saturday and noon on Monday. Plan accordingly.

Also, the Metro and Transmilenio in Bogota, are free all day Sunday. There will be a lot more passengers than a normal Sunday.

Tourists can only stay in Colombia for 6 months total in any calendar year (Jan 1 to Dec 31). If I land September 1, 2022 and stay 3 months I will get an online extension to cover the December 1 to December 31 time frame. Now in 2023, I get another 3 months with 3 month extension.

But do I have to leave the country too since the new calendar year started my new 6 months stay?

If "yes", do I have to leave Colombia at the end of 2022 or leave and come back quickly the first few days or weeks in January 2023?

Does the Colombian government allow me to leave and return in the same day (same day visa run)?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2701456]Tourists can only stay in Colombia for 6 months total in any calendar year (Jan 1 to Dec 31). If I land September 1, 2022 and stay 3 months I will get an online extension to cover the December 1 to December 31 time frame. Now in 2023, I get another 3 months with 3 month extension.

But do I have to leave the country too since the new calendar year started my new 6 months stay?

If "yes", do I have to leave Colombia at the end of 2022 or leave and come back quickly the first few days or weeks in January 2023?

Does the Colombian government allow me to leave and return in the same day (same day visa run)?[/QUOTE]Read this:

[URL]https://expatgroup.co/english/expats-in-colombia/extend-your-tourist-stamp/[/URL]

And also read the long details at migracion Colombia website.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2700385]From the US prospective.
This is what I always do. I go to the Andino Mall (or go to any OFFICIAL Claro store). They have a big, official Claro store on the second level. They have great customer service that will help you. I get the pre-paid package of 40 mil. You get 12 gigs and unlimited phone and text for 30 days. They have other packages which are cheaper. SIM is 3 mil. You need a passport. A copy of my passport has always been accepted.[/QUOTE]Overall, this is an outstanding post. A few tweaks.

Go to a company store: This is true for all carriers. And in all countries, not just Colombia. However, in Colombia you need only visit the company store to get your sim and pay your first month as prepago. If you run out of data or more than 30 days, then you can get a refill in many many tiendas. Rates are the same, just pay the cash and wait in the store about a minute to get the text confirmation that the payment went thru. This is a pro-tip for anyone spending time outside of major cities where there are no company stores!

The Andino store is good, but it isn't a full customer service store it's Claro Tech. There to sell equipment and do basic stuff. If you have something more complicated, you need to be at a full Claro store like the one on 15th near parque 93.

Depending on how much time you spend in locumbia, you may want to choose between the prepago and postpago. Novia tells me I can only do prepago with claro, but she is just trying to be humorous. Postpago got more complicated late last year.

In terms of Claro, Movistar, and everyone else. Claro has the best coverage by far throughout the country and in the cities.

"Everyone else" can be a little cheaper but you can hit issues with coverage and not being able to easily refill.

If you leave and come back to Colombia frequently and have a need to keep the same number for whatever reason (incl Whatsapp), then you may get your number released if you are out of country too long. Claro couldn't explain to me. Maybe someone here knows for sure?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2701456]Tourists can only stay in Colombia for 6 months total in any calendar year (Jan 1 to Dec 31). If I land September 1, 2022 and stay 3 months I will get an online extension to cover the December 1 to December 31 time frame. Now in 2023, I get another 3 months with 3 month extension.

But do I have to leave the country too since the new calendar year started my new 6 months stay?

If "yes", do I have to leave Colombia at the end of 2022 or leave and come back quickly the first few days or weeks in January 2023?

Does the Colombian government allow me to leave and return in the same day (same day visa run)?[/QUOTE]Check out the Gringo Paisa Medellin Facebook Group and do a search in the upper right side of the page. There are quite a few threads on this same scenario.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2700385]From the US prospective.

1) Get Google Fi.

2) If you have T-Moble plan such as Magenta, you get internet services in many countries including Colombia. Problem is that it is limited and it's 3 G.

3) Pay high fees and pay for roaming from Verizon and other providers.

4) Get local SIM when you exit the international baggage area in Bogota airport. It is the first store you see. But the price is very expensive. You know the price is expensive because it is priced in US dollars. Lowest level was about US $20 for a few gigs; price was about double for about a quarter of what you can get with Claro.

5) Best option (for value): get pre-paid plan with Claro (or with other providers). Problem is that it's somewhat inconvenient since you can't get it at the airport.

This is what I always do. I go to the Andino Mall (or go to any OFFICIAL Claro store). They have a big, official Claro store on the second level. They have great customer service that will help you. I get the pre-paid package of 40 mil. You get 12 gigs and unlimited phone and text for 30 days. They have other packages which are cheaper. SIM is 3 mil. You need a passport. A copy of my passport has always been accepted.[/QUOTE]VERY Important. If you plan to return to Colombia ensure that your phone is registered. You may receive some texts on this a week or so after you start using in Colombia To do this you need a Colombian Cedula (or someone elses) as a passport won't work. I bought a cheap unblocked Samsung S9 in the states, used it in Colombia for 2 weeks and it was blocked while I was back in the states as I was unable to register it. When I returned to Colombia took me a day and a lot of time to get the issue resolved, including going the man Claro store to have my device unblocked and then to a computer store to have my phone hacked and bands opened up again. I do not recommend so make sure it's registered!

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2702041]VERY Important. If you plan to return to Colombia ensure that your phone is registered. You may receive some texts on this a week or so after you start using in Colombia To do this you need a Colombian Cedula (or someone elses) as a passport won't work. I bought a cheap unblocked Samsung S9 in the states, used it in Colombia for 2 weeks and it was blocked while I was back in the states as I was unable to register it. When I returned to Colombia took me a day and a lot of time to get the issue resolved, including going the man Claro store to have my device unblocked and then to a computer store to have my phone hacked and bands opened up again. I do not recommend so make sure it's registered![/QUOTE]If you get your SIM at a full service Claro store they will properly register it, etc. As he said, you need your passport. But if you were to buy a SIM on the street if it functions that means it is already registered to someone else, or will need to be registered in the next couple of weeks. Perhaps with that scenario the website will not accept a passport ID, I don't know. But yes, be sure it is registered. It is the PHONE that needs to be registered with a valid Colombian number, or the next time you come you won't be able to use that phone for anything, with any company or any number.

I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2702109]I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.[/QUOTE]Having been to most Countries in South and Central American countries for more years than I care to remember, it's very possible to be in a regular relationship BUT the odds are not in your favor. I had 2 serious relationships in Brazil out of maybe 100 different women I have met. An 8 year relationship with a Tica, again out of many many women. 2 very serious ones in Colombia. Currently engaged to a STEM major in the Nat'l University who has never been prepago, in fact I'm not sure she even knows what that is. Jaja. The other is now a Chef in Paris.

2 absolutes are required.

You both need to speak the same language fluently, either both speak English or Spanish, better Espanole so you can interact with her family, a very important part of a serious deal.

The other is you both need to live in the same country, or at the very least she needs a 10 year visa so you can alternate visiting each other every month or so. I don't recomend trying this with a prepago, there are some successful relationships like this but very, very few. Too many built in problems with that deal. If you really want to try this, don't go to SF, or escort web sites, instead, live in Colombia, go to a language school and meet some normal women, join a gym, etc. If you fall in love with a working girl you will be falling in love by yourself. Good luck.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2702109]I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.[/QUOTE]How successful are you at finding STR in the US? If you aren't finding it easy at home, it will be extremely difficult in Colombia.

You'll have more difficulty regardless. Unless you put yourself in the middle of a middle class or better neighborhood and go native, most of the girls you meet will be from low income families. The good news is that those are the ones most likely to be interested in a STR with a gringo. The bad news is they expect payment.

The middle and upper class girls won't expect payment, but they are less likely to go for a 1 night stand, or a short affair.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2702109]I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.[/QUOTE]It is simple. If you.

Meet a hooker then it is P4P. If you meet a normal chick then you can have a normal relationship. How could you not want to be a walking ATM if you would not mind a seeking type arrangement? You understand the premise is the same give money-get pussy relationship as any other P4P? Show up to a seeking type relationship without money and see what you get.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2702109]I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.[/QUOTE]What's a blackpiller and redpiller?

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2702922]What's a blackpiller and redpiller?[/QUOTE]Blue Pill = They still believe the fairytale they were told growing up and happily ever after is real. Think of the gringo who believes he has a Colombian girlfriend who stopped being a working girl to be his girlfriend as long as the gringo sends her support money every month and when he visits the 2 weeks every few months they will be together as a couple.

Red Pill = Free thinking and able to see that most of what they were told was a lie. Think of the gringo who comes to Colombia and knows the girl he's fucking has a gringo boyfriend from America, Europe, and England all sending her support money every month while she still have a local Colombian boyfriend living with her off of the gringos money and she still continues to be a working girl. I know many like this in CTG, and DR. The chicas are even so bold to have the boyfriend drop them off at your place and pick them up after you finish. So that taxi driver where she was sitting in the front seat? Think twice about it and accept the truth.

Purple Pill = When the blue pill believes in the fairytale but starts to see the truth of the wife just want to use him as a retirement plan so he rides the border accepting the truth and the lies depending on the day.

Black Pill = Nothing in life matters and there is nothing you can do to change it. Things will always be this way and there is no changing them. Think of the phrase "you can't turn a hoe into a house wife". "They will only see you as a walking ATM." "If you can't get this type of girl where your from what makes you think she cares because your a foreigner."

Red Pill Rage = My favourite! When the blue pill realizes they been living a lie and it all comes crashing down to where they are forced to accept the truth they go into deep rage of everything is a lie. Think of paternity fraud where a wife gets pregnant outside the marriage and the husband raises the child as his own not knowing it's not his. Then one day something is wrong with the child and it has a genetic disorder but it doesn't run in the husbands family or the wives family so a DNA test is done and he finds out he's been raising that child for 18 years and it's not his. Very high percentage of men out there raising kids that aren't theirs.

[QUOTE=DigLicker;2702109]I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.[/QUOTE]I have a little over 10 years on you and been doing this traveling thing for over 10 years and I'm certain there are members on this forum that have 10,20 maybe even 30 years more than me and still going strong in the travelling game. Listen to them and take it all in to see where things are going before you get to that point.

As at LatinaLover said, the most important thing is that you must speak the same language. The chica will want to take you home and show you off to her family as you are the big catch to make her life easier. If you cannot communicate with her mom, aunts or grandmother it will be difficult as those are the ones you will have to impress and Latin culture is all about family, we are talking multiple generations under 1 roof.

You will have to move to her country, do not bring them to yours because once they realize you aren't anything special and there are better options for them because they outclass all other women around them with their natural beauty, or getting lots of attention from other men they will leave you. If you don't move there you run the risk of just being the gringo boyfriend who only sees her a few times a year and she will get lonely when all her friends are out with their boyfriends posting instagram pictures, etc causing her to get a local boyfriend. Remember in her country she's a dime a dozen, in your country she's in high demand. If you have a remote job that you can do overseas for months at a time, this may work.

Get away from paid services and talk to local girls who have normal jobs. They might still do sex work on the side once in a while when they need the new iPhone with 3 cameras, or need a new fridge, or washing machine, or big hospital bill for mom, but they do not depend on it to survive (don't ask them, and you may have to overlook it if you encounter it). If they ask you for money on the first date you know where its going.

You can fall into that small percentage that it will work but I do not know anyone personally that has made this work. The most I've seen it last was about 3 years but the back and forth travelling became too much time consuming as the years went on and either she found someone closer willing to live there or he found someone local to him.

Either way you are still very young so good luck with whatever choice you make.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2703024]I have a little over 10 years on you and been doing this traveling thing for over 10 years and I'm certain there are members on this forum that have 10,20 maybe even 30 years more than me and still going strong in the travelling game. Listen to them and take it all in to see where things are going before you get to that point.

As at LatinaLover said, the most important thing is that you must speak the same language. The chica will want to take you home and show you off to her family as you are the big catch to make her life easier. If you cannot communicate with her mom, aunts or grandmother it will be difficult as those are the ones you will have to impress and Latin culture is all about family, we are talking multiple generations under 1 roof.

You will have to move to her country, do not bring them to yours because once they realize you aren't anything special and there are better options for them because they outclass all other women around them with their natural beauty, or getting lots of attention from other men they will leave you. If you don't move there you run the risk of just being the gringo boyfriend who only sees her a few times a year and she will get lonely when all her friends are out with their boyfriends posting instagram pictures, etc causing her to get a local boyfriend. Remember in her country she's a dime a dozen, in your country she's in high demand. If you have a remote job that you can do overseas for months at a time, this may work..[/QUOTE]This is another great answer to the wrong question.

He wasn't asking about LTR, long term relationships, he was asking about STR, short term relationships. Date and fuck for a few days or weeks, then move on.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2701456]
But do I have to leave the country too since the new calendar year started my new 6 months stay?

Does the Colombian government allow me to leave and return in the same day (same day visa run)?[/QUOTE]Yes youn eed to leave bcos they will only 2 extension per entry. But you could stay until slmost end if Feb.

I did a same day visa run, but using different passports. I did research if you could do it on the same passport. Some folks said they did it NP. Others said you needed to eait X days, but could never provide any evidence when asked, so I think they were just repeating what others had said.

So to summarise, several confirmed they had done it, and I never found any evidence to refute it. Please let us know if you find out.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2703017]Blue Pill = They still believe the fairytale they were told growing up and happily ever after is real. Think of the gringo who believes he has a Colombian girlfriend who stopped being a working girl to be his girlfriend as long as the gringo sends her support money every month and when he visits the 2 weeks every few months they will be together as a couple.

Red Pill = Free thinking and able to see that most of what they were told was a lie. Think of the gringo who comes to Colombia and knows the girl he's fucking has a gringo boyfriend from America, Europe, and England all sending her support money every month while she still have a local Colombian boyfriend living with her off of the gringos money and she still continues to be a working girl. I know many like this in CTG, and DR. The chicas are even so bold to have the boyfriend drop them off at your place and pick them up after you finish. So that taxi driver where she was sitting in the front seat? Think twice about it and accept the truth.

Purple Pill = When the blue pill believes in the fairytale but starts to see the truth of the wife just want to use him as a retirement plan so he rides the border accepting the truth and the lies depending on the day.

Black Pill = Nothing in life matters and there is nothing you can do to change it. Things will always be this way and there is no changing them. Think of the phrase "you can't turn a hoe into a house wife". "They will only see you as a walking ATM." "If you can't get this type of girl where your from what makes you think she cares because your a foreigner."

Red Pill Rage = My favourite! When the blue pill realizes they been living a lie and it all comes crashing down to where they are forced to accept the truth they go into deep rage of everything is a lie. Think of paternity fraud where a wife gets pregnant outside the marriage and the husband raises the child as his own not knowing it's not his. Then one day something is wrong with the child and it has a genetic disorder but it doesn't run in the husbands family or the wives family so a DNA test is done and he finds out he's been raising that child for 18 years and it's not his. Very high percentage of men out there raising kids that aren't theirs.[/QUOTE]Yeah I'm going to keep it honest DigLicker keep that weird shit in the states when you come down to Colombia.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2703229]This is another great answer to the wrong question.

He wasn't asking about LTR, long term relationships, he was asking about STR, short term relationships. Date and fuck for a few days or weeks, then move on.[/QUOTE]Oh I'm completely off on this one then. I thought they were looking for something ongoing like a few months as to me STR is a few months. For a few days or weeks then Seeking just may be the way to go.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2703276]Yes youn eed to leave bcos they will only 2 extension per entry. But you could stay until slmost end if Feb.

I did a same day visa run, but using different passports. I did research if you could do it on the same passport. Some folks said they did it NP. Others said you needed to eait X days, but could never provide any evidence when asked, so I think they were just repeating what others had said.

So to summarise, several confirmed they had done it, and I never found any evidence to refute it. Please let us know if you find out.[/QUOTE]Sry, am pretty sure that is not what I wrote. I will try again.

Yes you need to leave bcos they will only give 1 extension per entry. But you could stay until almost until end of Feb.

I did a same-day visa run, but using different passports. I did research if you could do it on the same passport. Some folks said they did it, NP. Others said you needed to wait X days, but they could never provide any evidence when asked, so I think they were just repeating what others had said and perhaps spreading false information.

So to summarise, several confirmed they had done it, and I never found any evidence to refute that. Please let us know if you find out.

I will be returning to Bogota again in 2 weeks and it seems like the only thing going up faster than airfare is gas. I just got back from Bogota and planning another trip in 2 weeks and I swear the already over priced airfare has almost doubled from the prices last month. I never fly Spirit because they suck but their price for Atlanta to Bogota is almost as much as Delta. I can afford to pay it but I'm not happy. I hate being gouged. Plus the dollar continues to go down, from 4000 a week or so ago to in the 3700 range. So I'm wondering if these events are holding any of you guys back from making a trip.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2704136]I will be returning to Bogota again in 2 weeks and it seems like the only thing going up faster than airfare is gas. I just got back from Bogota and planning another trip in 2 weeks and I swear the already over priced airfare has almost doubled from the prices last month. I never fly Spirit because they suck but their price for Atlanta to Bogota is almost as much as Delta. I can afford to pay it but I'm not happy. I hate being gouged. Plus the dollar continues to go down, from 4000 a week or so ago to in the 3700 range. So I'm wondering if these events are holding any of you guys back from making a trip.[/QUOTE]I was in MDE 2 weeks ago, for a long weekend, Friday thru Sunday. Exchange rate was 4100.

Was using my spirit frequent flier miles, now the trip mileage to spend has almost doubled, could be because it is June and summer vacation too.

Now airfares have gone up, so I am sitting home. Yes.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2704136]I will be returning to Bogota again in 2 weeks and it seems like the only thing going up faster than airfare is gas. I just got back from Bogota and planning another trip in 2 weeks and I swear the already over priced airfare has almost doubled from the prices last month. I never fly Spirit because they suck but their price for Atlanta to Bogota is almost as much as Delta. I can afford to pay it but I'm not happy. I hate being gouged. Plus the dollar continues to go down, from 4000 a week or so ago to in the 3700 range. So I'm wondering if these events are holding any of you guys back from making a trip.[/QUOTE]The amount that my flights have increased would pay for 9 days in my hotel and I usually stay 2 weeks so yes it is keeping me away. I always fly COPA.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2704158]I was in MDE 2 weeks ago, for a long weekend, Friday thru Sunday. Exchange rate was 4100.

Was using my spirit frequent flier miles, now the trip mileage to spend has almost doubled, could be because it is June and summer vacation too.

Now airfares have gone up, so I am sitting home. Yes.[/QUOTE]The airlines are out of control. The problem with sitting out is it may be a while before things level off if ever. Polical pundants insist this is by design by the administration to inflict pain on the energy sector. The problem is how long before we have ELECTRIC planes. Jaja. I saw a news clip of a travel expert say it can be 1 or 2 YEARS before the travel industry returns to normal. One problem is they buy the fuel 3 to 6 months ahead of delivery time. So if your in the same camp as me and believe fuel will be even more when the airlines buy for the next purchase period it just might be even more expesive, sooo looks like flights will continue to get more and more expensive: looks like the future for mongers is going to get worse and worse'er jaj.

Pique and Shakira are splitting.

"During a podcast appearance in February, Shakira said that she and her "poor husband, slash boyfriend, slash baby daddy" sometimes disagree about timeliness because of their different upbringings.

'Cause Colombian time is not the same as Catalonian time, Spanish time'.

And I get frustrated when a hooker who I have never met does not arrive on time. There is no hope. LOL.

I just checked the US Embassy website and it says that in order for me to bring my girl from Medellin to the US for a road trip with me for a few weeks that she needs a tourist visa. To get this visa she needs an interview in Bogota. The site says there is a 696 day waiting period for this interview!

Whats the trick? It can't really take 2 years for me to get her a visa so she can travel to the US with me for a couple of weeks, could it?

Who knows the scoop on how to get a girl with a Colombia passport a visa so I can fly her to the USA with me for 2-3 weeks.

I am a US citizen with a US Passport-but I live outside the USA. The plan is for her to come to where I live and then fly with me to the states for 2-3 weeks. We met on Seeking and have been hanging out quite a bit over the last 1. 5 years. We have a cool vibe together and have done small trips already, so I don't need lectures about having a girl for 2-3 weeks or traveling with a chica. I am only seeking information on how I get her a visa to visit the USA with me for a couple of weeks-hopefully not 2 years from now. LOL.

Anyone know anything about getting my girl a visa to visit the USA?

Thanks!

I heard on the fox radio a few minutes ago No more antigen chess needed to enter the USA as of Monday.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2707078]Whats the trick? It can't really take 2 years for me to get her a visa so she can travel to the US with me for a couple of weeks, could it?[/QUOTE]The trick is that the wait is now over 700 days. All you can do is make an appointment and wait your turn. By then she probably will not be your girl anymore.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2707078]I just checked the US Embassy website and it says that in order for me to bring my girl from Medellin to the US for a road trip with me for a few weeks that she needs a tourist visa. To get this visa she needs an interview in Bogota. The site says there is a 696 day waiting period for this interview! [/QUOTE]And at the interview, will she be able to show sufficient funds in her name to cover the length of the trip? Does she have an 'en blanco' taxpaying job or property in her name? If not, it's unlikely she will get the visa even if you are able to accelerate the interview. And of course no money back on denial.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2707170]The trick is that the wait is now over 700 days. All you can do is make an appointment and wait your turn. By then she probably will not be your girl anymore.[/QUOTE]Yeah, sadly, I think you are right. Lame.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2707078]I just checked the US Embassy website and it says that in order for me to bring my girl from Medellin to the US for a road trip with me for a few weeks that she needs a tourist visa. To get this visa she needs an interview in Bogota. The site says there is a 696 day waiting period for this interview!

Whats the trick? It can't really take 2 years for me to get her a visa so she can travel to the US with me for a couple of weeks, could it?

Who knows the scoop on how to get a girl with a Colombia passport a visa so I can fly her to the USA with me for 2-3 weeks.

I am a US citizen with a US Passport-but I live outside the USA. The plan is for her to come to where I live and then fly with me to the states for 2-3 weeks. We met on Seeking and have been hanging out quite a bit over the last 1. 5 years. We have a cool vibe together and have done small trips already, so I don't need lectures about having a girl for 2-3 weeks or traveling with a chica. I am only seeking information on how I get her a visa to visit the USA with me for a couple of weeks-hopefully not 2 years from now. LOL.

Anyone know anything about getting my girl a visa to visit the USA?

Thanks![/QUOTE]OMG that's a far cry from what it was 3 years ago. My girl applied for her interview she got the interview in a few weeks, like 2/3 weeks, was called down for the interview. She brought her passport and grades with her from the Nat'l university and a letter from me stating I would be responsible for her welfare during her time in the USA, and that's it, no bank statements etc, NADA!

The interviewer asked her a few questions in Spanish, she answered, he then asked if he could ask her a few in English, she said sure, answered them and he stamped her papers and approved 10 year visa. He told her she would be notified in a few weeks when to come down and pick up her passport with the visa in it They notified her in less than a week to come get it and that was it. She's been coming to the USA now many times to meet me and never a problem. Not sure why the extreme difficulty now, especially when any knucklehead who can fog up a mirror can walk across the border, get free money, a phone, an apartment and food stamps. How can our country be so messed up and make it so difficult for someone trying to do it the legal way, The only thing that has changed is we had a different President back then when my girl applied. You may have to do your road trips in Canada or Mexico.

It appears next week, after Monday at 7 pm, will be a good time to use the ATM's. The exchange rate is now 3944/1 (COP/USD). If it continues to rise, hold off; but if it declines, you have the next day to get the higher rate.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2707078]I just checked the US Embassy website and it says that in order for me to bring my girl from Medellin to the US for a road trip with me for a few weeks that she needs a tourist visa. To get this visa she needs an interview in Bogota. The site says there is a 696 day waiting period for this interview!

Whats the trick? It can't really take 2 years for me to get her a visa so she can travel to the US with me for a couple of weeks, could it?

Who knows the scoop on how to get a girl with a Colombia passport a visa so I can fly her to the USA with me for 2-3 weeks.

I am a US citizen with a US Passport-but I live outside the USA. The plan is for her to come to where I live and then fly with me to the states for 2-3 weeks. We met on Seeking and have been hanging out quite a bit over the last 1. 5 years. We have a cool vibe together and have done small trips already, so I don't need lectures about having a girl for 2-3 weeks or traveling with a chica. I am only seeking information on how I get her a visa to visit the USA with me for a couple of weeks-hopefully not 2 years from now. LOL.

Anyone know anything about getting my girl a visa to visit the USA?

Thanks![/QUOTE]My understanding is they turn down about 70% of the applicants also, they want strong ties to the community, $ in bank, house ownership etc.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2707233]OMG that's a far cry from what it was 3 years ago. My girl applied for her interview she got the interview in a few weeks, like 2/3 weeks, was called down for the interview. She brought her passport and grades with her from the Nat'l university and a letter from me stating I would be responsible for her welfare during her time in the USA, and that's it, no bank statements etc, NADA!

The interviewer asked her a few questions in Spanish, she answered, he then asked if he could ask her a few in English, she said sure, answered them and he stamped her papers and approved 10 year visa. He told her she would be notified in a few weeks when to come down and pick up her passport with the visa in it They notified her in less than a week to come get it and that was it. She's been coming to the USA now many times to meet me and never a problem. Not sure why the extreme difficulty now, especially when any knucklehead who can fog up a mirror can walk across the border, get free money, a phone, an apartment and food stamps. How can our country be so messed up and make it so difficult for someone trying to do it the legal way, The only thing that has changed is we had a different President back then when my girl applied. You may have to do your road trips in Canada or Mexico.[/QUOTE]Canada, not, Not even close.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2707282]Canada, not, Not even close.[/QUOTE]I was under the impression Canada was very easy to get in. I know of a few girls that elected to go to Canada if they couldn't get into the states. Is getting into Canada more difficult now?

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2707251]My understanding is they turn down about 70% of the applicants also, they want strong ties to the community, $ in bank, house ownership etc.[/QUOTE]When I went through the process to get my visa to come to America my country turned my down twice. Once they found out I had allot of family already in America they were afraid I would leave and never come back (they were right but better opportunities, better life). Third world countries don't like to give out visas when they see residents leaving. I've have a few Colombians that were born in Colombia and immigrated to America, when they returned to visit family, even though they came in with an American Passport, it always says country of birth, once they saw Colombia, they would not let them leave the country until they had all their Colombian documents up to date and a valid Colombian passport. They were stuck there for an additional 3 weeks to get it all in order.

Similar happened to me when I went home to me country for a funeral. Came in on the foreigner line and when the saw my country of birth was there they sent me to the citizen line. Asked me all sorts of questions of why I haven't returned to the country in over 10 years? Where's my original countries passport, then tells me I need to update all my info in order to leave. Within a week I had to go register for a voting party, get a national ID for my country and by the time I left it wasn't even ready. I had to ask a family member to pick it up and give it to someone to give to me when they were coming up on vacation.

Third world countries don't play when it comes with these visa approvals especially when they see the applicant have the means and network to leave and not return. Its tough.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2707304]When I went through the process to get my visa to come to America my country turned my down twice. Once they found out I had allot of family already in America they were afraid I would leave and never come back (they were right but better opportunities, better life). Third world countries don't like to give out visas when they see residents leaving. I've have a few Colombians that were born in Colombia and immigrated to America, when they returned to visit family, even though they came in with an American Passport, it always says country of birth, once they saw Colombia, they would not let them leave the country until they had all their Colombian documents up to date and a valid Colombian passport. They were stuck there for an additional 3 weeks to get it all in order.

Similar happened to me when I went home to me country for a funeral. Came in on the foreigner line and when the saw my country of birth was there they sent me to the citizen line. Asked me all sorts of questions of why I haven't returned to the country in over 10 years? Where's my original countries passport, then tells me I need to update all my info in order to leave. Within a week I had to go register for a voting party, get a national ID for my country and by the time I left it wasn't even ready. I had to ask a family member to pick it up and give it to someone to give to me when they were coming up on vacation.

Third world countries don't play when it comes with these visa approvals especially when they see the applicant have the means and network to leave and not return. Its tough.[/QUOTE]The tourist visa for the US is granted by the US Embassy. If the girl already has her passport, there's no involvement with the Colombian Migration Department.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2707623]The tourist visa for the US is granted by the US Embassy. If the girl already has her passport, there's no involvement with the Colombian Migration Department.[/QUOTE]I went through the process in the 90's and my country was so strict they decided who could get appointments to go get the visa as we had to travel to Barbados to go to the US Embassy. It was such a frustrating process but once we got the green light, interview and everything went good.

Hopefully OP's chica have a better and faster experience than I did.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2707291]I was under the impression Canada was very easy to get in. I know of a few girls that elected to go to Canada if they couldn't get into the states. Is getting into Canada more difficult now?[/QUOTE]My understanding is that it is as difficult, if not more difficult, than the USA. It might depend on what country we are talking about though. Mexicans may have an easier time getting into Canada as tourists than people from other central and South American countries. But I have not researched it deeply, only a bit with respect to Costa Rica, and it is very difficult for ticas to get visas to visit Canada.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2707696]I went through the process in the 90's and my country was so strict they decided who could get appointments to go get the visa as we had to travel to Barbados to go to the US Embassy. It was such a frustrating process but once we got the green light, interview and everything went good.

Hopefully OP's chica have a better and faster experience than I did.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but you just don't know what you are talking about. Visa are issued by the destination country and the country of residence is just plain not involved.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2707932]I'm sorry but you just don't know what you are talking about. Visa are issued by the destination country and the country of residence is just plain not involved.[/QUOTE]I was referring to the frustrating process I went through to get my visa to come to America. Different countries operate differently, yes the destination country is the one who approves or denies the visa but what I poorly explained was that my country prevented us from getting to that point because they didn't want allot of people to leave.

I'm from a country where if you were not a registered voter of the current political party in power then you won't get far.

So the government will prioritize those who voted for them when it comes to things such as buying land, government jobs, and providing the paperwork to submit to get the visa. My experience was back in the 90's, back then my island didn't have the abundance of free information as the world have today, all we knew was in order to get the visa we had to go to the government building in town, fill out the paperwork and hand it in. They will then process it and send it on.

Years later after a different political party gained power, come to find out the previous political party inserted themselves into the visa process and were approving or denying applications from moving forward to where they needed to go. So they would tell the applicant the application was denied but essentially they just threw it in the trash.

Again, this was my frustrating experience with it in my country with its politics and corruption.

For us ISGers, when we travel to Bog or Med, I've heard that we should use our gringo status to our advantage, so should I dress "loudly" to make it even more obvious that I'm a tourist to stir up some more interaction from the chica s? (Like wearing highlighter-colored Nike, American sports attire, Yankees hat etc?? Or will that lead to getting my ass robbed rolling through El Centro looking like that?

Bro, out.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2707932]I'm sorry but you just don't know what you are talking about. Visa are issued by the destination country and the country of residence is just plain not involved.[/QUOTE]You are probably correct in this case. BUt it is worth noting that some countries DO prevent their own citizens from travelling. Immigration prevents them leaving, or DHA make the issuance of passports extremely difficult. (Its country of passport, not resisence).

[QUOTE=ExoticBro;2708166]For us ISGers, when we travel to Bog or Med, I've heard that we should use our gringo status to our advantage, so should I dress "loudly" to make it even more obvious that I'm a tourist to stir up some more interaction from the chica s? (Like wearing highlighter-colored Nike, American sports attire, Yankees hat etc?? Or will that lead to getting my ass robbed rolling through El Centro looking like that?.[/QUOTE]Don't forget a pimp hat with a long feather.

When you step into El Centro, everyone within 50 yards can tell you're a gringo, regardless of how you are dressed. The only difference the clothes make is whether they immediately think you're slightly foolish, or a complete idiot.

Is your goal to get girls to demand more money? That seems to be your approach. If they see a gringo walking around with a big "steal my shit" sign over his head, the price is going to double or triple, unless someone decides to relieve you of your sports attire and money first.

Here's how prostitution works on the street in El Centro. Girls stand around waiting for customers. A few might try to grab a customer, although usually it's just an attempt to pick his pocket. The customer approaches the prostitute and negotiations begin. Whether you're wearing Walmart jeans and a t-shirt you found at Goodwill, or a tuxedo, if you don't talk to the girls, they'll just watch you walk by, except for the pickpockets.

On the other hand, thieves tend to be more proactive when choosing clients.

[QUOTE=ExoticBro;2708166]For us ISGers, when we travel to Bog or Med, I've heard that we should use our gringo status to our advantage, so should I dress "loudly" to make it even more obvious that I'm a tourist to stir up some more interaction from the chica s? (Like wearing highlighter-colored Nike, American sports attire, Yankees hat etc?? Or will that lead to getting my ass robbed rolling through El Centro looking like that?.[/QUOTE]Yes, please enter into a third world country looking like you are going to record a rap video, maybe you will be in that small percentage that won't get robbed after a few days there.

Wherever you heard this shit from, they are setting you up for failure. Only the criminals care how expensive you look. But don't take my word for it, a simple YouTube search of "robed in Medellin" and you can make your own conclusions if you want to advertise you have money in a country where many do not.

[QUOTE=ExoticBro;2708166]For us ISGers, when we travel to Bog or Med, I've heard that we should use our gringo status to our advantage, so should I dress "loudly" to make it even more obvious that I'm a tourist to stir up some more interaction from the chica s? (Like wearing highlighter-colored Nike, American sports attire, Yankees hat etc?? Or will that lead to getting my ass robbed rolling through El Centro looking like that?

Bro, out.[/QUOTE]No need to wear loud clothes for the girls. They can tell easily enough. The drawback is that if they know from the drop that you're a tourist they'll charge you more (or have more time to think about a bigger figure). Also you'll catch the attention of thieves and your every-day crazy drugged out street people (which is a hassle in of itself).

During the day I personally dress down as much as possible. Jeans, dark shoes, solid color t-shirt, unique, but cheap watch and sunglasses. At night I dress nicely in dark clothes, but not flashy and no jewelry. Scores of guys are robbed every year be / see they don't want to leave their gold necklace at home.

Remember, while Colombians are nice, you are still a walking ATM in the eyes of most!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2708366]Don't forget a pimp hat with a long feather.

[/QUOTE]Had me laughing out loud with that reply! Lmao. 🤣

Almost spilled my morning coffee.

[QUOTE=ExoticBro;2708166] I've heard that we should use our gringo status to our advantage... Or will that lead to getting my ass robbed rolling through El Centro looking like that?[/QUOTE]We have had this convo many times. I am all for loud clothes and not caring about what attention I create. Bcos I create attention anyways, so I have never tried to hide. Many others will tell you that you will be a target for looking like a tourist, but there is zero evidence to suggest that. My suggestion is to wear what you want, and avoid being a target by looking nervous or vacant / unattentive. ... and don't carry expensive or important stuff.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2708465]My suggestion is to wear what you want, and avoid being a target by looking nervous or vacant / unattentive. ... and don't carry expensive or important stuff.[/QUOTE]Like officially licensed, expensive sportswear and $300 sneakers, stuff incredibly popular with the kind of guys who rob tourists?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2708366]Don't forget a pimp hat with a long feather.

When you step into El Centro, everyone within 50 yards can tell you're a gringo, regardless of how you are dressed. The only difference the clothes make is whether they immediately think you're slightly foolish, or a complete idiot.

Is your goal to get girls to demand more money? That seems to be your approach. If they see a gringo walking around with a big "steal my shit" sign over his head, the price is going to double or triple, unless someone decides to relieve you of your sports attire and money first.

Here's how prostitution works on the street in El Centro. Girls stand around waiting for customers. A few might try to grab a customer, although usually it's just an attempt to pick his pocket. The customer approaches the prostitute and negotiations begin. Whether you're wearing Walmart jeans and a t-shirt you found at Goodwill, or a tuxedo, if you don't talk to the girls, they'll just watch you walk by, except for the pickpockets.

On the other hand, thieves tend to be more proactive when choosing clients.[/QUOTE]Jjbee is a legend; that was some hilarious shit! Seriously. I think you're probably spot-on! But ironically, I am literally the opposite of the pimp guy you described; I typically am overly casual and dress very basic with zero jewelry, so I should be fine with my status quo. I think I allowed myself to be misguided by a stereotype- being a brother, oftentimes females make negative assumptions towards us unless we "portray" certain characteristics. But in hindsight, I guess correct; none of that stuff should apply since bro tourists / any tourist will be viewed as an ATM by Colombian chicas. I will provide feedback once my trip starts on the 23rd.

Hello,

I was hoping to get advice from someone with experience as to which city would be the best place to go for someone who has never visited Colombia.

I have been to Sosua before and got around OK.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Prhodes;2709755]Hello,
I was hoping to get advice from someone with experience as to which city would be the best place to go for someone who has never visited Colombia.
[/QUOTE]Medellin overall, if you know a bit of Spanish even more so. Some may say Cartagena as more people speak English, the beach, and the clubs. It depends a bit more on what you're looking for.

It didn't take long to see the results of the Colombian election. Today, the USD is up more than 100 COP. Currently, it is 4023/1 COP / USD. The relationship between the [URL]Xe.com[/URL] rate and the Visa rate has changed. Visa no longer changes their rate at midnight GMT. I haven't determined when it changes, and what rate they use. Last week, I received 4016/1 from the ATM. Yet [URL]Xe.com[/URL] shows the high for the past 30 days was 3980. To get an accurate rate for the ATM's, I think you will have to look at the Visa and MasterCard foreign exchange rates.
[URL]https://usa.visa.com/support/consumer/travel-support/exchange-rate-calculator.html[/URL].
[URL]https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/personal/get-support/convert-currency.html[/URL]

Interesting tidbit: Visa shows current rate at 3912 and MasterCard is 3905.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2711347]It didn't take long to see the results of the Colombian election. Today, the USD is up more than 100 COP.[/QUOTE]How many USD does it take for a gallon of gas today in the EEUU? Its all relative.

I learned something today. Visas for entry into the US are valid until the expiration date. Duh. Yeah, everyone already knows that. The bit that I learned is they are valid even if the passport has expired and been renewed. The person just needs to travel with both the new, current passport and the expired passport which contains the visa.

Everyone probably already knew that as well. I just found out because my girlfriend* might be coming to visit me for a few days and she recently had to renew her passport. No sense in planning the visit if her visa needs to be renewed.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2711380]How many USD does it take for a gallon of gas today in the EEUU? Its all relative.[/QUOTE]When I'm in Colombia, I don't buy gas in the EEUU. But to answer your question, the average price for a gallon of regular gas where I live in the US is $4.70 today.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2711459]I learned something today. Visas for entry into the US are valid until the expiration date. Duh. Yeah, everyone already knows that. The bit that I learned is they are valid even if the passport has expired and been renewed. The person just needs to travel with both the new, current passport and the expired passport which contains the visa.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is visas for anywhere. In the USA, when you get a new passport they are supposed to keep the old one. But when you tell them there is a visa inside that you need and they will invalidate the old passport by punching holes in the picture page and send it back to you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2711675]Yes, that is visas for anywhere. In the USA, when you get a new passport they are supposed to keep the old one. But when you tell them there is a visa inside that you need and they will invalidate the old passport by punching holes in the picture page and send it back to you.[/QUOTE]At least now there's proof that:

1. I don't know everything.

And.

2. I can still learn. Slowly.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2711675]Yes, that is visas for anywhere. In the USA, when you get a new passport they are supposed to keep the old one. But when you tell them there is a visa inside that you need and they will invalidate the old passport by punching holes in the picture page and send it back to you.[/QUOTE]I have every passport I've ever had. They don't keep the old one. Not sure where you heard that. I normally renew by mail and they send the old passport back with holes punched in it. I renewed in person at the US Embassy this time and it was the same thing. That was in February.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2711675]Yes, that is visas for anywhere. In the USA, when you get a new passport they are supposed to keep the old one. But when you tell them there is a visa inside that you need and they will invalidate the old passport by punching holes in the picture page and send it back to you.[/QUOTE]They cut out the corner of the passport cover and send it back always.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2711764]I have every passport I've ever had. They don't keep the old one. Not sure where you heard that. I normally renew by mail and they send the old passport back with holes punched in it. [/QUOTE]I did not hear it, I experienced it. Okay it was a different situation than it expiring. I sent it in for more pages and they kept it saying it was damaged because the corner of the picture page was coming up. When I told them about the visas they fedexed it back to me.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2711770]They cut out the corner of the passport cover and send it back always.[/QUOTE]I am looking at my expired passport now, not the last one but the one before that. No corner cut on the cover. Two holes punched through the front cover and that's it.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2711770]They cut out the corner of the passport cover and send it back always.[/QUOTE]For me (US Passport), they always just punched 2 holes in the cover and first page with the photo and send it back, Visas or no visas.

I have no idea why they send back the old one when renewing but its appreciated. I like flipping through the pages of my previous 3 passports and looking at all the different shapes and colours of the stamps each country uses.

DR on arrival they use the dog tag shaped one but on departure they use the square one.

Thailand on arrival its square but on departure its triangle shape one.

Canada shaped like a postage stamp on arrival and on departure its the oval shaped one.

Colombia with the orange and purple.

My favorite is the multiple "canceled without prejudice" stamps on my US visa in my original's country passport LOL.

I checked Visa and MasterCard. They both changed the exchange rate at midnight local time. I imagine they adjust the rate according to the time zone of the transaction. I can't imagine they would use EST worldwide.

Got to Baggage about 6 am and went straight to the Cambio next to the baggage carousel. Got 4,000 to 1 so fuck the ATM, all of the airport cambios have sucked for years. For some reason the one next to baggage started giving very close to the official rate and they are continuing this for my last 3 or 4 trips this year. I hope it continues.

I just checked the Visa exchange rate for tomorrow and it will be 4,129.87 per dollar. This is one of the best rates in a very long time.

Remember the ATM (cajero) basics: don't get your cash from Bancolombia because they have a 600 mil limit and charge a sizeable fee. Better banks to use are Davienda, Colpatria or BBVA. Also [B] never accept any conversion rate that is offered [/B] if you just decline that offered rate you will get the Visa Exchange rate which will be [B] considerably [/B] higher.

I am in Thailand using my Schwab check card. The daily limit is automatically set at $1000. I have a couple of large purchases to make so I called to see if the limit could be raised. I was able to raise it to $4000 for tomorrow only. She said that the limit resets everyday at 3 am EST. So if you took out $1000 today you would not be able to withdraw again until 3 am the next day.

All of this however is independent of the ATM you are using. So the lady said I would probably have to run around to different banks' ATMs to withdraw the money since each bank also sets a daily limit for your card.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2713740]I am in Thailand using my Schwab check card. The daily limit is automatically set at $1000. I have a couple of large purchases to make so I called to see if the limit could be raised. I was able to raise it to $4000 for tomorrow only. She said that the limit resets everyday at 3 am EST. So if you took out $1000 today you would not be able to withdraw again until 3 am the next day.

All of this however is independent of the ATM you are using. So the lady said I would probably have to run around to different banks' ATMs to withdraw the money since each bank also sets a daily limit for your card.[/QUOTE]I managed to get my maximum daily withdrawal limit permanently raised to $1,500 a few years ago.

Today, 7 days later it's already up to 4,203.274 a great exchange rate. Now if only airfares would come down from the stratosphere.

I found out couple of months ago, if you are flying into Colombia from Brazil, you are required to show a yellow fever vaccination card. You don't need yellow fever vac card flying into Brazil.

The Avianca clerk at Rio airport took pity on my despondent face, and she told me the "hack" flying on Avianca. Purchase a full fare, refundable ticket from Bogota to Quito, Ecuador (or anywhere else). Then she can put the 2 flights together, using Bogota as a layover. Then she doesn't need to see your vac card. Then when you are in Bogota, leave immigration. The small risk is if border agent ask to see your yellow fever vac card.

Then after you enter the baggage claim area, go and cancel your flight. It took me an hour to get my bags. Minor problem is that Avianca gave a flight voucher (good for 1 year) instead of a full refund.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2717278]I found out couple of months ago, if you are flying into Colombia from Brazil, you are required to show a yellow fever vaccination card. You don't need yellow fever vac card flying into Brazil...[/QUOTE]Actually, this rule has been in effect for at least 5 years. I remember flying to Sao Paulo from Medellin, and I was told about that rule. I just traveled to SEA recently, and Singapore required that vaccination for folks who had traveled to Colombia recently.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2717357]Actually, this rule has been in effect for at least 5 years. I remember flying to Sao Paulo from Medellin, and I was told about that rule. I just traveled to SEA recently, and Singapore required that vaccination for folks who had traveled to Colombia recently.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that reminder. Do you know if Philippine, Thailand and Indonesia also require the Yellow Fever vaccine proof?

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2717376]Thanks for that reminder. Do you know if Philippine, Thailand and Indonesia also require the Yellow Fever vaccine proof?[/QUOTE]It depends on which countries you have visited in the past whatever. It is not that they require it overall.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2717583]It depends on which countries you have visited in the past whatever. It is not that they require it overall.[/QUOTE]It will be Colombia. Colombia entry and exit stamps all over my passport these days. I checked the CDC website, only Brazil is listed. Not sure about Colombia though, and I can't find any info about such requirements.

I think you are currently in SEA, did Immigration ask you for the Yellow Fever Vax card?

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2717758]It will be Colombia. Colombia entry and exit stamps all over my passport these days. I checked the CDC website, only Brazil is listed. Not sure about Colombia though, and I can't find any info about such requirements.

I think you are currently in SEA, did Immigration ask you for the Yellow Fever Vax card?[/QUOTE]No. Only time I have ever been asked for it was in Australia. We got to the counter and the guy was processing us in and my buddy mouthed off to the guy that I had recently been to Africa. He asked which country. I told him and he looked at a list behind him. Then he said step aside. They asked for my card but I did not have it with me. They made me fill out some paperwork and told me to watch myself for any illness for the next how many ever hours. I do not think it is routinely asked for unless you are coming directly from a country where yellow fever is a problem.

In the past customs in Colombia was for me a real pain in the ass. Now with the form you have to fill out online that gives them all the info that they want to know such as all your personal info and where you will be staying. So now when you reach the person who stamps your passport there is no delay or questions. It is now a very speedy procedure. The funny thing is I always hated to fill out that form as it was always a hard task till I learned exactly how to fill it out. Of course it is my nature to complain so riddle me this. Why does Colombia make you fill out a form to leave the country?

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2719725]Why does Colombia make you fill out a form to leave the country?[/QUOTE]For one to know if you have overstayed. Many countries make you fill out a form to leave the country. Maybe you are just not thinking along those lines. When you enter you will fill a form out with 2 parts, but you keep the second part with you and turn it in when you leave. Before, people on visas to the USA would have to turn in the I94 form before they left. In many countries everything is becoming electronic with systems (airline & government) crossing each other so they are able to track it like that these days.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2719725]In the past customs in Colombia was for me a real pain in the ass. Now with the form you have to fill out online that gives them all the info that they want to know such as all your personal info and where you will be staying. So now when you reach the person who stamps your passport there is no delay or questions. It is now a very speedy procedure. The funny thing is I always hated to fill out that form as it was always a hard task till I learned exactly how to fill it out. Of course it is my nature to complain so riddle me this. Why does Colombia make you fill out a form to leave the country?[/QUOTE]What form? I flew in and out in May and July and didn't do the mig or any paper forms. Did I skip steps or do they no longer require?

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2719855]What form? I flew in and out in May and July and didn't do the mig or any paper forms. Did I skip steps or do they no longer require?[/QUOTE]They still want you to fill out the form online. I'm surprised you were able to enter the Country without doing the form online.

Hey all,

Wanted to hear some thoughts. I'm thinking about visiting Colombia later this year, my first solo vacation in south america. I'm not SPECIFICALLY going for hobbying, but ideally it would be nice to find a woman (or women) I can hang with for extended company.

I'm in my late 30's, in decent shape. My Spanish isn't great but its good enough that I can understand 80%, and I can speak enough to hold basic conversation and get the idea across for whatever I want to say. Ideal vacation for me would involve being on the water, doing ocean activities like snorkeling and booze cruising. A little bit of nightlife / clubbing / dancing. I'm not big on visiting historical sites. I don't want to be among too many tourists if possible. I know this is very open-ended, but it would be cool to do a once-in-a-lifetime activity of some sort while on vacation (for example another idea was whale-shark diving in the Yucatan before I settled on Colombia).

What's the best place in Colombia for this? Cartagena seems like the most likely option, but I'm wondering if there's a better place that's less touristy, and more unique, while not being so far out in the boonies that its going to be dangerous, stressful, no infrastructure.

Also the potential trip wouldn't be super long. Maybe only about a week. What would be the best way to go about finding some attractive arm candy for the trip to keep me company for most of the time? Is there a way to go about that at all? Seems most of the posts are about short term 1-2 hours, or at most 1 night stay. Is this even a good idea to try to do this? Might cause drama when its time for me to leave. How would I find vet them before I show up, to make sure they're not weird, or going to try to rob me?

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2720029]Hey all,

Wanted to hear some thoughts. I'm thinking about visiting Colombia later this year, my first solo vacation in south america. I'm not SPECIFICALLY going for hobbying, but ideally it would be nice to find a woman (or women) I can hang with for extended company.

I'm in my late 30's, in decent shape. My Spanish isn't great but its good enough that I can understand 80%, and I can speak enough to hold basic conversation and get the idea across for whatever I want to say. Ideal vacation for me would involve being on the water, doing ocean activities like snorkeling and booze cruising. A little bit of nightlife / clubbing / dancing. I'm not big on visiting historical sites. I don't want to be among too many tourists if possible. I know this is very open-ended, but it would be cool to do a once-in-a-lifetime activity of some sort while on vacation (for example another idea was whale-shark diving in the Yucatan before I settled on Colombia).

What's the best place in Colombia for this? Cartagena seems like the most likely option, but I'm wondering if there's a better place that's less touristy, and more unique, while not being so far out in the boonies that its going to be dangerous, stressful, no infrastructure.

Also the potential trip wouldn't be super long. Maybe only about a week. What would be the best way to go about finding some attractive arm candy for the trip to keep me company for most of the time? Is there a way to go about that at all? Seems most of the posts are about short term 1-2 hours, or at most 1 night stay. Is this even a good idea to try to do this? Might cause drama when its time for me to leave. How would I find vet them before I show up, to make sure they're not weird, or going to try to rob me?[/QUOTE]You should check out Santa Marta or san andreas island.

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2720029]Hey all,

Wanted to hear some thoughts. I'm thinking about visiting Colombia later this year, my first solo vacation in south america. I'm not SPECIFICALLY going for hobbying, but ideally it would be nice to find a woman (or women) I can hang with for extended company.

I'm in my late 30's, in decent shape. My Spanish isn't great but its good enough that I can understand 80%, and I can speak enough to hold basic conversation and get the idea across for whatever I want to say. Ideal vacation for me would involve being on the water, doing ocean activities like snorkeling and booze cruising. A little bit of nightlife / clubbing / dancing. I'm not big on visiting historical sites. I don't want to be among too many tourists if possible. I know this is very open-ended, but it would be cool to do a once-in-a-lifetime activity of some sort while on vacation (for example another idea was whale-shark diving in the Yucatan before I settled on Colombia).

What's the best place in Colombia for this? Cartagena seems like the most likely option, but I'm wondering if there's a better place that's less touristy, and more unique, while not being so far out in the boonies that its going to be dangerous, stressful, no infrastructure.[/QUOTE]There are many unique experiences to be found in Colombia, depending on your interests, tolerance for roughing it, fitness level, risk tolerance, etc. However, finding an ideal companion for any type of adventure is extremely difficult without spending a lot of time weeding them out.

It's easy to find a woman who will agree to do whatever you want. Finding one that isn't going to turn it into a disaster is another matter. In addition to all the drama which can ruin your trip, many women will have unreasonable expectations, or will commit to the entire time when they have no intention to stay more than 2 days.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2720365]You should check out Santa Marta or san andreas island.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Added both to my list of potentials destinations! How would you differentiate the vibe and activities between those two locations? Looks like san Andres has better ocean activities while Santa Marta is more of a small / medium sized city with more history / culture, is that correct?

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2720029]Hey all,

Wanted to hear some thoughts. I'm thinking about visiting Colombia later this year, my first solo vacation in south america. I'm not SPECIFICALLY going for hobbying, but ideally it would be nice to find a woman (or women) I can hang with for extended company.

I'm in my late 30's, in decent shape. My Spanish isn't great but its good enough that I can understand 80%, and I can speak enough to hold basic conversation and get the idea across for whatever I want to say. Ideal vacation for me would involve being on the water, doing ocean activities like snorkeling and booze cruising. A little bit of nightlife / clubbing / dancing. I'm not big on visiting historical sites. I don't want to be among too many tourists if possible. I know this is very open-ended, but it would be cool to do a once-in-a-lifetime activity of some sort while on vacation (for example another idea was whale-shark diving in the Yucatan before I settled on Colombia).

What's the best place in Colombia for this? Cartagena seems like the most likely option, but I'm wondering if there's a better place that's less touristy, and more unique, while not being so far out in the boonies that its going to be dangerous, stressful, no infrastructure.

Also the potential trip wouldn't be super long. Maybe only about a week. What would be the best way to go about finding some attractive arm candy for the trip to keep me company for most of the time? Is there a way to go about that at all? Seems most of the posts are about short term 1-2 hours, or at most 1 night stay. Is this even a good idea to try to do this? Might cause drama when its time for me to leave. How would I find vet them before I show up, to make sure they're not weird, or going to try to rob me?[/QUOTE]A very tall order. Most people in Colombia, like most everywhere, can't just drop everything they are doing and go off for a week with a total stranger. So for sure only a sex worker, and even then one that doesn't have much of a life. And if you are looking for arm candy that would weed out many of those. But there are chicas waiting for just such a chance. Someone they can get close to and then drug and call their accomplices in to rob, and if you are lucky, to leave you unconscious.

Anyway. Once you live in a place for a while, get to know people, you may find a girlfriend of some sort that would vacation with you. But to expect to just come in and find someone that is "arm candy" to hang out with you and travel around is, I think, unrealistic, and possibly risky.

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2720029]Hey all,

Wanted to hear some thoughts. I'm thinking about visiting Colombia later this year, my first solo vacation in south america. I'm not SPECIFICALLY going for hobbying, but ideally it would be nice to find a woman (or women) I can hang with for extended company.

I'm in my late 30's, in decent shape. My Spanish isn't great but its good enough that I can understand 80%, and I can speak enough to hold basic conversation and get the idea across for whatever I want to say. Ideal vacation for me would involve being on the water, doing ocean activities like snorkeling and booze cruising. A little bit of nightlife / clubbing / dancing. I'm not big on visiting historical sites. I don't want to be among too many tourists if possible. I know this is very open-ended, but it would be cool to do a once-in-a-lifetime activity of some sort while on vacation (for example another idea was whale-shark diving in the Yucatan before I settled on Colombia).

What's the best place in Colombia for this? Cartagena seems like the most likely option, but I'm wondering if there's a better place that's less touristy, and more unique, while not being so far out in the boonies that its going to be dangerous, stressful, no infrastructure.

Also the potential trip wouldn't be super long. Maybe only about a week. What would be the best way to go about finding some attractive arm candy for the trip to keep me company for most of the time? Is there a way to go about that at all? Seems most of the posts are about short term 1-2 hours, or at most 1 night stay. Is this even a good idea to try to do this? Might cause drama when its time for me to leave. How would I find vet them before I show up, to make sure they're not weird, or going to try to rob me?[/QUOTE]And the other aspect of this is from the chica's point of view. These gals have a dangerous occupation. Not many are going to go off with someone they don't know without their own protection. We can look at it from our point of view, of danger to us. But the danger is far greater for them, going off with someone they don't know for who knows what sort of kinky stuff. So again, I would be very suspicious of any takers on your plan.

Best visit places you want to see and hook up locally in places where everyone feels safe. Ie a hotel that will copy or hold the gal's cedula while you are in the room with her. Then everyone knows there is some public record there of who saw who when, which means that no one is likely to go criminal in some way.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2717376]Thanks for that reminder. Do you know if Philippine, Thailand and Indonesia also require the Yellow Fever vaccine proof?[/QUOTE]Thailand immigration asked for yellow fever vaccination proof when I was arriving from Nairobi. I have never been asked when arriving from Asian countries or north america.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2720606]And the other aspect of this is from the chica's point of view. These gals have a dangerous occupation. Not many are going to go off with someone they don't know without their own protection. We can look at it from our point of view, of danger to us. But the danger is far greater for them, going off with someone they don't know for who knows what sort of kinky stuff. So again, I would be very suspicious of any takers on your plan.

Best visit places you want to see and hook up locally in places where everyone feels safe. Ie a hotel that will copy or hold the gal's cedula while you are in the room with her. Then everyone knows there is some public record there of who saw who when, which means that no one is likely to go criminal in some way.[/QUOTE]Yeah I kinda figured it would be a pretty low chance of success. I know in the dr they have agencies that will let you hire a girl to give you tours and sleep with you. Don't mind paying the money honestly.

Another question if you guys don't mind. Are there times I should or shouldn't visit? Seems most places say try to visit Jan. / Feb. Or late summer for most places in Colombia, for weather reasons. Is that correct?

I saw a post somewhere that during elections, everything closes early and they don't serve alcohol or something. I assume there won't be another election for a while again (not annual I hope?) but any other random things like that I have to avoid?

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2720029]Hey all,

Wanted to hear some thoughts. I'm thinking about visiting Colombia later this year, my first solo vacation in south america. I'm not SPECIFICALLY going for hobbying, but ideally it would be nice to find a woman (or women) I can hang with for extended company...

...Also the potential trip wouldn't be super long. Maybe only about a week. What would be the best way to go about finding some attractive arm candy for the trip to keep me company for most of the time? Is there a way to go about that at all? Seems most of the posts are about short term 1-2 hours, or at most 1 night stay. Is this even a good idea to try to do this? Might cause drama when its time for me to leave. How would I find vet them before I show up, to make sure they're not weird, or going to try to rob me?[/QUOTE]One of my best mongering experiences ever was taking a beautiful 22 year old Paisa I met at the Mansion on a 2 day trip to visit Hacienda Napoles. Had I known how good it would be I would have made it a 7 day trip. We had not had sex before the trip. She was "occupied" with another Gringo staying at the Mansion. But I had gotten to know her hanging out and knew she wanted to see Napoles. I asked if she'd like to go once he returned to the US and she said absolutely. (I don't think he was thrilled, but she was not his wife). We had a great time (including sex) and when we got back I asked her what the appropriate payment was. She said she felt like she should pay me. I still gave her something like 600,000 COP. She later took me to her family home and I knew she needed it. I was in my forties at the time.

It can be done. They aren't all mercenaries. But you need to get to know them a bit first. Don't think you can pick a girl off the street corner and go away for a week. Mansion is a good place to try. (I am not a shill, Mansion's wrong for the budget punter who just wants as many SWs as possible.).

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2721923]Another question if you guys don't mind. Are there times I should or shouldn't visit? Seems most places say try to visit Jan. / Feb. Or late summer for most places in Colombia, for weather reasons. Is that correct?

I saw a post somewhere that during elections, everything closes early and they don't serve alcohol or something. I assume there won't be another election for a while again (not annual I hope?) but any other random things like that I have to avoid?[/QUOTE]Weather wise, Bogota is now in the rainy season. It can be cold by Colombian standards, I don't mind the temperature. In general Central and S. America clears up in December and continues that way until March / April. Remember predicting the weather is dicy at best. We had a destination wedding for one of my daughters in Saint Lucia, was in the dry season, well so much for the dry season, it rained cats and dogs for 3 of the 4 days we were there, you pays for money and you take your chances.

Also I would advise to avoid Christmas time and Semana Santa. Election time and one day Holidays wouldn't have more than a day or so effect. Take the plunge, enjoy and be safe.

[QUOTE=Buksida1;2720655]Thailand immigration asked for yellow fever vaccination proof when I was arriving from Nairobi. I have never been asked when arriving from Asian countries or north america.[/QUOTE]I was recently in Singapore, prior to taking my trip, I checked Singapore's embassy website for travel requirements. In the case of yellow fever vaccination, it was required only if one visited a set of countries, in the last 30 days. I was not affected so I did not read further but the countries were listed in their website. I suggest you do the same, check both the destination country and the US websites. They will most likely have the answer to your question.

My girl was in the states in June just 60 days ago. Now I see 2 new forms she mut complte. Has anyone had experience with these new requirements?

Mandatory pre-registration form.

And.

Mandatory travel attestation form?

First time I've seen this.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2722588]My girl was in the states in June just 60 days ago. Now I see 2 new forms she mut complte. Has anyone had experience with these new requirements?

Mandatory pre-registration form.

And.

Mandatory travel attestation form?

First time I've seen this.[/QUOTE]Are you referring to Check MIG form and the attestation form that said the traveler has been tested negative from COVID? If so, that's been going on since last year. The attestation form I filled out was back in August last year, then in November they didn't give me one, only Check MIG, also was there in March and it was only the Check MIG, no attestation form. This was on JetBlue. If it's not those forms, then disregard this post.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2597607&viewfull=1#post2597607[/URL]

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2722588]My girl was in the states in June just 60 days ago. Now I see 2 new forms she mut complte. Has anyone had experience with these new requirements?

Mandatory pre-registration form.

And.

Mandatory travel attestation form?

First time I've seen this.[/QUOTE]The first is the address where she'll be staying and the second is her Covid vaccination info.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2722680]Are you referring to Check MIG form and the attestation form that said the traveler has been tested negative from COVID? If so, that's been going on since last year. The attestation form I filled out was back in August last year, then in November they didn't give me one, only Check MIG, also was there in March and it was only the Check MIG, no attestation form. This was on JetBlue. If it's not those forms, then disregard this post.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2597607&viewfull=1#post2597607[/URL][/QUOTE]True the check mig has been around for awhile, it's the forms that just surfaced for entry to the USA as Jjbee outlined below.

I have mongered a good bit in Southeast Asia (mainly Thailand and Indonesia), but I have never been to Colombia. Does anybody here know both SE Asia and Colombia and could you compare them? I am especially interested in the following:

- Access to petite / short girls / spinners (very good in SE Asia, I expect Colombians are generally taller).

- Soft pubic hair (many SE Asian girls have very soft / sparse pubic hair, I expect Colombians have coarser public hair, more like Southern Europeans).

- Safety (very good in SE Asia, seems not so good in Colombia).

- Prices (have risen a good bit in Thailand, may be beginning to rise in Indonesia. Colombia seems pretty cheap for the time being judging from posts on the forum).

Contrasts / comparisons on other aspects also welcome.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2723646]I have mongered a good bit in Southeast Asia (mainly Thailand and Indonesia), but I have never been to Colombia. Does anybody here know both SE Asia and Colombia and could you compare them?
- Prices (have risen a good bit in Thailand,[/QUOTE]Colombia is not Southeast Asia so do not go there looking for it. If you want Southeast Asia then go to Southeast Asia. The only prices that have risen in Thailand is for gasoline. It costs me twice as much to fill up my motorbike than it did last year and before. Condo rental prices have actually fallen. My monthly apartment rent has been the same $120 for the last 14 years. I am still paying taxis $30 from the airport to my place an hour and a half away in Pattaya. I am still giving chicks the same $30 for all night that I have always given them. If you want to go through a middleman such as a bar to get chicks, then maybe there is an increase in price. But there is no reason to get chicks that way. Hell you can even go there to meet them and have them come over after work for a more normal price. Go experience Colombia for Colombia but do not expect it to find Southeast Asia (where even different countries and even cities within the same countries are different.).

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2723646]
- Access to petite / short girls / spinners (very good in SE Asia, I expect Colombians are generally larger
- Soft pubic hair (many SE Asian girls have very soft / sparse pubic hair, I expect Colombians have coarser public hair, more like Southern Europeans).
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Colombianas shave it. You're welcome.

You can access something small / petite that won't intimidate you.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2723646]I have mongered a good bit in Southeast Asia (mainly Thailand and Indonesia), but I have never been to Colombia. Does anybody here know both SE Asia and Colombia and could you compare them? I am especially interested in the following:

- Access to petite / short girls / spinners (very good in SE Asia, I expect Colombians are generally taller).

- Soft pubic hair (many SE Asian girls have very soft / sparse pubic hair, I expect Colombians have coarser public hair, more like Southern Europeans).

- Safety (very good in SE Asia, seems not so good in Colombia).

- Prices (have risen a good bit in Thailand, may be beginning to rise in Indonesia. Colombia seems pretty cheap for the time being judging from posts on the forum).

Contrasts / comparisons on other aspects also welcome.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]From my experiences, I do visit both areas quite frequently, and my 2 cents opinion:

I think Latin chicas are slightly more attractive and nicer curves, fuller tits and asses to caress than SE Asians. But don't get me wrong, I see a lot of pretty faces in SE Asia too! I would say communication enhances having a good time. Meaning I prefer hobbying in the PI, as Pinays also speak English.

As I am fluent in Espanol, I prefer to chase chicas in Medellin due to its share availability and low costs. Yes, more bang for the buck! Also in Colombia, you will find many hungry chicas from Venezuela plying the market. But yes, do give MDE a ride.

Want to plan another trip to Bogota or MDE after spending the last 6 years all over Thailand.

How's the general vibe in the streets re crime, riots, civil unrest, etc.? Last time I was there was when the Venezuelan chics were pouring in when everything was turning to shit and they were buying whatever they could to bring back home.

I see Woodman is still hanging and banging which is a good sign lolol. Wonder if he still remembers Coolio?

And color me stupid but someone please explain to me the currency exchange again? I keep seeing 40/50 mil thrown around and I'm thinking mil as in millions of pesos but when I go to the currency calculator there's no way that can be right.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2723646]I have mongered a good bit in Southeast Asia (mainly Thailand and Indonesia), but I have never been to Colombia. Does anybody here know both SE Asia and Colombia and could you compare them? I am especially interested in the following:

- Access to petite / short girls / spinners (very good in SE Asia, I expect Colombians are generally taller).

- Soft pubic hair (many SE Asian girls have very soft / sparse pubic hair, I expect Colombians have coarser public hair, more like Southern Europeans)..[/QUOTE]1- Access to petite short women in Latin America is a good recipe to get set up for an underage trap and extorted for money. Most Latin women are not built like Asians. If you are looking for Petite, get a verified contact from a board member, as a first timer I would advise against going to look for it in the street, especially Medellin.

2- I have never encountered a chica with pubic hair in Colombia. DR yes, Colombia, no.

3- Depending on where you go you will get taken advantage of. Higher chance in Medellin and now its an uptick in Cartagena. But this is where the problem is, in Asia chances are you will encounter a girl who speaks English, not so much in Colombia, it will be mainly Spanish and if you do not speak Spanish and have to rely on the translate app on your phone you will be advertising goods to be robbed depending on where you are, for example Medellin. No one will attack you in public, it will be mostly something missing from your room or robbed at gunpoint if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stay in the tourist zones!

4- Colombia is not exactly cheaper. It varies. Type of girl such as Venezuelan vs Colombian (many cannot tell the difference). Variables that come into play: Are they legally in the country? How old are they? Are you in Medellin, Cartagena, Cali, Santa Martha, Barranquilla? Are you going to Casas? Getting them from the street? Or getting them from the clubs? All this plays into the price and the further away from the tourist area the cheaper the price but also the higher the danger if you are a new face and do not speak the language.

If its your first time I would suggest to link up with someone whos a vet where they can show you what's what and you don't end up like that other board member Dublin12 who went to Colombia with a SEA mindset and got a rude awakening despite the multiple warnings multiple board members gave him that Latin America mongering is a whole different level than SEA.

Safe travels and happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2723646]I have mongered a good bit in Southeast Asia (mainly Thailand and Indonesia), but I have never been to Colombia. Does anybody here know both SE Asia and Colombia and could you compare them? I am especially interested in the following:Thanks.[/QUOTE]Dude! I have been going to Phils and Thailand since the 80's. I have always been afraid of the language barrier and not come to the Spanish countries, while drooling over Latin women on dating sites. If you really need petite, then stay in Asia. I have always said Filipinas are built like boy scouts. Some guys like the slim body, and more power to you. Me, I prefer the big tits, and round ass of a WOMAN! I finally came to Colombia, forced to by COVID, and not looked back. I have yet to be scoped by these Colombian women, and you will never have to deal with any Asian chic putting shit in your drink. Asian women are by nature, very sweet, which I love, but very sneaky bitches you can't trust. My Thia GF made her husband get her huge dee cup boobs, which I enjoyed after they broke up. Visually my preference is the full figured Latina. I'm smashing a 5'8 Negra, with her own dee cups at the moment.

[QUOTE=Craftyone;2723772]Want to plan another trip to Bogota or MDE after spending the last 6 years all over Thailand.

How's the general vibe in the streets re crime, riots, civil unrest, etc.? Last time I was there was when the Venezuelan chics were pouring in when everything was turning to shit and they were buying whatever they could to bring back home.

I see Woodman is still hanging and banging which is a good sign lolol. Wonder if he still remembers Coolio?

And color me stupid but someone please explain to me the currency exchange again? I keep seeing 40/50 mil thrown around and I'm thinking mil as in millions of pesos but when I go to the currency calculator there's no way that can be right.[/QUOTE]It's getting more dangerous outside the main tourist areas. This is due to more and more Venezuelans coming in and the crime came with them. Motorcycle robberies are rising where they are just pulling up on a motorcycle, rob everyone in the restaurant at gunpoint and take off. They are now following people from the airport to their hotel and robbing them when they get out of the cab. Many videos are on YouTube of this happening.

The currency thing was confusing to me as well when I first started learning the pesos LOL. Long story short "mil" means thousand in Spanish. So "40/50 mil" will translate to 40/50 thousand but keep in mind 1 US dollar at a 4. 4 exchange rate will be around 4. 4 thousand pesos or 4. 4 mil. So 40/50 mil is only about 9 to 10 dollars. Is the app you are using the Xe Currency converter app? It worked great for me in Thailand, DR, and Colombia to understand what I'm paying in relation to what I would be paying back home for the same service / item / etc.

[QUOTE=Craftyone;2723772]And color me stupid but someone please explain to me the currency exchange again? I keep seeing 40/50 mil thrown around and I'm thinking mil as in millions of pesos but when I go to the currency calculator there's no way that can be right.[/QUOTE]Mil is Spanish for thousand.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2723646]I have mongered a good bit in Southeast Asia (mainly Thailand and Indonesia), but I have never been to Colombia. Does anybody here know both SE Asia and Colombia and could you compare them? I am especially interested in the following:

- Access to petite / short girls / spinners (very good in SE Asia, I expect Colombians are generally taller).

- Soft pubic hair (many SE Asian girls have very soft / sparse pubic hair, I expect Colombians have coarser public hair, more like Southern Europeans).

- Safety (very good in SE Asia, seems not so good in Colombia).

- Prices (have risen a good bit in Thailand, may be beginning to rise in Indonesia. Colombia seems pretty cheap for the time being judging from posts on the forum).

Contrasts / comparisons on other aspects also welcome.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]1. The typical girl I'm with in Medellin is 5'3" or less and under 95#.

2. I've only found 1 girl with pubic hair in Colombia. It wasn't especially coarse.

3. I've had no real issues with safety, except when trying to cross a busy street.

4. Prices are what you want to pay. If you want to pay $10 or less for sex, or $100 or more, you can find someone to take your money.

I can't compare any of that to SEA. If you're looking for the experience you enjoy in SEA, you need to go to SEA. If you go to Colombia and compare it to SEA you'll be disappointed. Not because it's worse, but because it's not SEA.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2723946]It's getting more dangerous outside the main tourist areas. This is due to more and more Venezuelans coming in and the crime came with them. Motorcycle robberies are rising where they are just pulling up on a motorcycle, rob everyone in the restaurant at gunpoint and take off. They are now following people from the airport to their hotel and robbing them when they get out of the cab. Many videos are on YouTube of this happening.

The currency thing was confusing to me as well when I first started learning the pesos LOL. Long story short "mil" means thousand in Spanish. So "40/50 mil" will translate to 40/50 thousand but keep in mind 1 US dollar at a 4. 4 exchange rate will be around 4. 4 thousand pesos or 4. 4 mil. So 40/50 mil is only about 9 to 10 dollars. Is the app you are using the Xe Currency converter app? It worked great for me in Thailand, DR, and Colombia to understand what I'm paying in relation to what I would be paying back home for the same service / item / etc.[/QUOTE]There are also lots of YouTube videos showing talking dogs, but I've yet to encounter one in person. Getting your information on any country from YouTube is like learning about farming by reading the ingredients in Captain Crunch.

Yes, there is crime. If you paint a target on your back it will find you. If you pay attention to your personal security, your risk is no worse than at home.

People referring to the "SA" site. What is the url for this site?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2724076]There are also lots of YouTube videos showing talking dogs, but I've yet to encounter one in person. Getting your information on any country from YouTube is like learning about farming by reading the ingredients in Captain Crunch.[/QUOTE]Stay away from youtube. Stay away from TV. Then walk outside and tell me what you see. Nothing like media told you it is. Like when they cover protests and it is only 4 people out there protesting but they make it seem like there are hundreds. Like if Black people go outside they are going to get killed by the police. Like the whole world is dying of Covid.

My dad came to my house this morning talking about his throat was hurting and he thinks he may have Covid. So I whipped out a test and wouldn't you know it. The man knows his stuff. Gets shingles from the shots and now gets Covid any damn way. Meanwhile one of his 2 unvaccinated son's test is as negative as always so he headed for Colombia. Media promised us we would die without the shots. Glad I don't pay attention to youtube.

[QUOTE=BigPowder;2724141]People referring to the "SA" site. What is the url for this site?

Thank you![/QUOTE]I believe this means Seeking Arrangements. It's changed to [URL]Seeking.com[/URL] now.

Mr E has a stable of chicks he has know for years. My hotel in Thailand is half of what it was pre pandemic. But airfare will eat up that savings. Depending on where you're coming from Colombia will be a cheaper ticket. Some guys learn the culture and don't overpay. Your preference is a personal choice. I prefer SE Asia.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2723646]I have mongered a good bit in Southeast Asia (mainly Thailand and Indonesia), but I have never been to Colombia. Does anybody here know both SE Asia and Colombia and could you compare them? I am especially interested in the following:

- Access to petite / short girls / spinners (very good in SE Asia, I expect Colombians are generally taller).

- Soft pubic hair (many SE Asian girls have very soft / sparse pubic hair, I expect Colombians have coarser public hair, more like Southern Europeans).

- Safety (very good in SE Asia, seems not so good in Colombia).

- Prices (have risen a good bit in Thailand, may be beginning to rise in Indonesia. Colombia seems pretty cheap for the time being judging from posts on the forum).

Contrasts / comparisons on other aspects also welcome.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2724298]I believe this means Seeking Arrangements. It's changed to [URL]Seeking.com[/URL] now.[/QUOTE]That is what I was looking for!

Gents who like to drink whiskey / vodka after every session, do you buy it in the city or buy a big stash from duty free when you arrive in Bogota? I love myself a good single malt whisky or a high end vodka after a session and I wonder if I should just get like 4 bottles for me from the duty free when I arrive in Bogota instead of buying it in the city.

Hey guys,

I've never traveled to Bogota or Medellin. If traveling there solo is it recommended to get a guide or how can you get information while there? My Spanish is decent but not great. Thanks.

This is a very general question. I have never travelled overseas on a sex tour, but I've lived overseas and had sex in strange places like Kazakhstan. It seems like it will take me about 16 hours to fly from (my local airport) to Medellin at a cost of around $1,000, round trip. That seems reasonable. I'd prefer to be on the coast where I can do some (possibly nude) sunbathing. Any recommendations?

Is it safe to travel there when I have a USA passport? My company owns a manufacturing facility in Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico, and the last time I went there, they to me took their manufacturing facility in an armored vehicle. It was kind of like when I worked for the Feds when, after the Iraq War ended and I spent some time in the Green Zone to help clean up some oil spills. The US Army met me on the tarmac, rushed me into an armored personnel carrier, and the next thing I knew, I was in Saddam Hussein's palace, now called "The Green Zone. ".

I never knew that my company, as small as it is, owned a small army armored personnel carriers. Wow.

[QUOTE=Squonk64;2727334]This is a very general question. I have never travelled overseas on a sex tour, but I've lived overseas and had sex in strange places like Kazakhstan. It seems like it will take me about 16 hours to fly from (my local airport) to Medellin at a cost of around $1,000, round trip. That seems reasonable. I'd prefer to be on the coast where I can do some (possibly nude) sunbathing. Any recommendations?Is it safe to travel there when I have a USA passport? My company owns a manufacturing facility in Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico, and the last time I went there, they to me took their manufacturing facility in an armored vehicle. It was kind of like when I worked for the Feds when, after the Iraq War ended and I spent some time in the Green Zone to help clean up some oil spills. The US Army met me on the tarmac, rushed me into an armored personnel carrier, and the next thing I knew, I was in Saddam Hussein's palace, now called "The Green Zone. ".I never knew that my company, as small as it is, owned a small army armored personnel carriers. Wow.[/QUOTE]Speaking as a person that worked in Iraq I doubt if your company "owned" the vehicle. There are very many up armoured vehicles there with 360 degree video, bullet and bomb proof, radios that talk to anyone in the world, but I digress. I say go and have a blast in Colombia. I really don't understand how people can live in Mexico without their own Army. I lived in San Diego for years and crossed into Tijuana and knew right away I can't do this country very long. WTF! Kaza who! What was that like? Oh, and post in the KAZA section!

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2726734]Gents who like to drink whiskey / vodka after every session, do you buy it in the city or buy a big stash from duty free when you arrive in Bogota? I love myself a good single malt whisky or a high end vodka after a session and I wonder if I should just get like 4 bottles for me from the duty free when I arrive in Bogota instead of buying it in the city.[/QUOTE]If you know your Favorite whiskey / vodka can't be found in Bogota then Yes you should either pack bottle (s) in checked bag or buy Duty Free (if available). However, if you know [URL=https://www.google.com/search?q=where+to+purchase+liquor+in+bogota+colombia]specific liquor/grocery store in Bogota[/URL] carry your drink then purchase there if price is right.

[URL]https://cigarreriareal.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ParkWay92;2727212]Hey guys,

I've never traveled to Bogota or Medellin. If traveling there solo is it recommended to get a guide or how can you get information while there? My Spanish is decent but not great. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Spanish decent but not great. Doesn't tell me much. But unless you are talking about something specific your question is unanswerable. Guide for what? I suppose if you were going through a travel company perhaps there are guides available for various tourist destinations. Don't know.

Like this.

I keep them up to date when you guys post the information when I can't get there in person.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists&p=2533089&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2533089

[QUOTE=ParkWay92;2727212]Hey guys,

I've never traveled to Bogota or Medellin. If traveling there solo is it recommended to get a guide or how can you get information while there? My Spanish is decent but not great. Thanks.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Squonk64;2727334]This is a very general question. I have never travelled overseas on a sex tour, but I've lived overseas and had sex in strange places like Kazakhstan. It seems like it will take me about 16 hours to fly from (my local airport) to Medellin at a cost of around $1,000, round trip. That seems reasonable. I'd prefer to be on the coast where I can do some (possibly nude) sunbathing. Any recommendations?

Is it safe to travel there when I have a USA passport?[/QUOTE]Cartagena is the only beach city with a generous supply of P4P women in Colombia. I don't think you will find any nude beaches there. You may want to look into traveling to St. Maarten. There are some P4P women there from various parts of the world, and the French side (St. Martin) has nude beaches.

It is safe to travel in Colombia, and the people are very nice. Use the same precautions you would in any major city in the US.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2727611]If you know your Favorite whiskey / vodka can't be found in Bogota then Yes you should either pack bottle (s) in checked bag or buy Duty Free (if available). However, if you know [URL=https://www.google.com/search?q=where+to+purchase+liquor+in+bogota+colombia]specific liquor/grocery store in Bogota[/URL] carry your drink then purchase there if price is right.

[URL]https://cigarreriareal.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing the link. Looked up the prices in cigarreiareal and they are much more expensive. I like a drink of Cragganmore or Port Charlotte or Beluga.

After RTFF I can't see any major differences with going to Bogota or Medellin to pick up girls. Yet the Medellin forum here is much more active. Why?

Cartagena seem to have the drawback of higher (tourist) prices but maybe the benefit of a fun tourist-destination. Right?

Chicas are basically the same in Bogota / Medellin / Cartagena right? Any differences when it comes to safety?

[QUOTE=Andersson25;2729181]After RTFF I can't see any major differences with going to Bogota or Medellin to pick up girls. Yet the Medellin forum here is much more active. Why?[/QUOTE]Weather / Altitude, Vibe, Facebook.

[QUOTE=Andersson25;2729181]After RTFF I can't see any major differences with going to Bogota or Medellin to pick up girls.

Chicas are basically the same in Bogota / Medellin / Cartagena right? [/QUOTE]That's like saying that the women in Los Angeles are the same as the ones in New York City. You probably haven't researched Colombia enough to know any differences within the culture and the women. In your mind it's all the same when it actually isn't.

Thanks for the reply.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2729183]Weather / Altitude, Vibe, Facebook.[/QUOTE]Bogota has higher altitude and is cooler, check. Vibe is more relaxed and fun in Medellin + chicas have Facebook?

Weather and Vibe in the city would be strong arguments for to go to Medellin instead.

[QUOTE=Andersson25;2729643]Thanks for the reply.

Bogota has higher altitude and is cooler, check. Vibe is more relaxed and fun in Medellin + chicas have Facebook?

Weather and Vibe in the city would be strong arguments for to go to Medellin instead.[/QUOTE]Prices are different too, Bogota tends to be cheaper with Cartagena on the higher end and Medellin in the middle.

[QUOTE=Andersson25;2729643]Vibe is more relaxed and fun in Medellin + chicas have Facebook?[/QUOTE]In Medellin chicks whoar off facebook. Foreigners search for and add the hookers to their friends list before they arrive, then when they get there they call the girl to come over for a session and / or to hangout for no less than 150,000 pesos. In Bogota the facebook hooker deal is not a thing.

[QUOTE=Andersson25;2729181]After RTFF I can't see any major differences with going to Bogota or Medellin to pick up girls. Yet the Medellin forum here is much more active. Why?

Cartagena seem to have the drawback of higher (tourist) prices but maybe the benefit of a fun tourist-destination. Right?

Chicas are basically the same in Bogota / Medellin / Cartagena right? Any differences when it comes to safety?[/QUOTE]The MDE forum is more active because it's an easier city to access. It has a very pleasant climate (average high about 80 vs Bogota 65). It's not as high altitude as Bogota so most visitors don't need time to adjust as many do with Bogota. It's also not nearly as big as Bogota so it's easier to figure things out.

IMO there's little difference in chica looks between the two cities. But I have limited experience in Bogota so maybe I'm judging from a small sample size. There's certainly more chicas in Bogota as it's a much bigger city.

I also think the Mansion had a lot to do with MDE taking off as a monger destination. It's an easy comfortable place for a new monger to stay, so a lot of guys starting coming here and things just took off.

Cartagena is definitely a worthwhile place to visit as it has some excellent tourist things to do. The chica action is generally a bit more expensive on average than Bogota or Medellin. But still pretty reasonable.

Is a layover 1 H 40 m in Fort Lauderdale enough for passport control and for taking the connection?

Medellin to FLL to Denver with Spirit.

My other option has layover for 6 h 41 m, not nice, but no risk to miss the connection.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2729837]Is a layover 1 H 40 m in Fort Lauderdale enough for passport control and for taking the connection?

Medellin to FLL to Denver with Spirit.

My other option has layover for 6 h 41 m, not nice, but no risk to miss the connection.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]If you have Global Entry then it is no problem. It takes me less than 5 minutes to clear Customs in FLL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2729722]In Medellin chicks whoar off facebook. Foreigners search for and add the hookers to their friends list before they arrive, then when they get there they call the girl to come over for a session and / or to hangout for no less than 150,000 pesos. In Bogota the facebook hooker deal is not a thing.[/QUOTE]100% agree with Mr. E. I've tried, but have never found the FB dynamic to work anywhere else to level it does in MDE. Not Bogota, Cali, Barranquilla, Panama City, the DR, or CR. It's ridiculously easy.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2729837]Is a layover 1 H 40 m in Fort Lauderdale enough for passport control and for taking the connection?

Medellin to FLL to Denver with Spirit.

My other option has layover for 6 h 41 m, not nice, but no risk to miss the connection.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I definitely don't want to spend 6 hours in FLL. If the flight leaving MDE is on time, you should be okay with 1 hour 40 min. The problem you can run into is going back through check-in after going through immigration and customs. Sometimes that line extends out onto the sidewalk for a ways. It has been many years since I went through FLL. The times I went through there, getting your bags, then re-checking them was very slow.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2730128]I definitely don't want to spend 6 hours in FLL. If the flight leaving MDE is on time, you should be okay with 1 hour 40 min. The problem you can run into is going back through check-in after going through immigration and customs. Sometimes that line extends out onto the sidewalk for a ways. It has been many years since I went through FLL. The times I went through there, getting your bags, then re-checking them was very slow.[/QUOTE]Been through FLL many times but not for the last year or so. Lots of construction going on but it has been one of my least favorite connections. The passport control area is archaic if it hasn't been updated yet, with lots of foreigners passing through. A bit of a walk, with your checked baggage in tow to get to connecting flights. As was mentioned, you need to go up the escalator and pass through TSA again to get to your gate. My girl returned to Colombia twice in the last 3 months nd both trips were a night mare. What should have been a 7 hour trip back to El Dorado from the east coast took almost 48 hours both times, with a closure of DFW for a 1 hour storm, refueling in bum fuck west Texas airport, only to miss her connecting flight back to Bogota, had to sleep overnight in DFW and then a new connection to Mia and finally an evening flight to Bogota, arrive at 1 AM the third day. And this was just on the last trip 3 weeks ago, the one before that was another similar disaster. There is so much disarray in air travel nowadays you can't count on anything. Also the time of day is important, if it's not a first flight for the day it gets very dicy. Afternoon thunder storms are frequent in S Florida so more possibilities to get fucked over. Under the current situation in air travel I would opt for the safer long layover. You want to talk about long. , try the line at the help desk trying to get rebooked on a missed or cancelled flight. I'm going back to Bogota next month and I will choose driving a long to the airport and paying double for a direct flight to Colombia to avoid all the shit. Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2729837]Is a layover 1 H 40 m in Fort Lauderdale enough for passport control and for taking the connection?

Medellin to FLL to Denver with Spirit.

My other option has layover for 6 h 41 m, not nice, but no risk to miss the connection.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Your flying spirit and flying from Fort Lauderdale, good luck, but once you get their it's all worth it! Travel safe have fun! If not book yet do jet blue from fll, worth its weight in gold!

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2730139]I'm going back to Bogota next month and I will choose driving a long to the airport and paying double for a direct flight to Colombia to avoid all the shit. Good Luck.[/QUOTE]If you are near a city serviced by Copa, you might try them. I think all their flights have a connection in Panama, but I haven't had any problems there. I have flown more than 30 trips on Copa to Medellin during the past six and a half years. I don't think Copa makes any connections in the US, so that possible headache is avoided.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2730185]If you are near a city serviced by Copa, you might try them. I think all their flights have a connection in Panama, but I haven't had any problems there. I have flown more than 30 trips on Copa to Medellin during the past six and a half years. I don't think Copa makes any connections in the US, so that possible headache is avoided.[/QUOTE]I like Copa and they are a member of the Mileage plus program which is always a good plus. Prices from the mid-atlantic area are crazy high sometimes. I used to be a card carrying member on Continental RIP but for the last decade or so I look for the best deal without any loyalty to any airline. Flew a lot on Jetblue they had good fares and did a great job but now under the new regulations they have become another Spirit. Pay for everything, carry on, check bag international, pay for a seat etc. Air travel was once fun and reasonable, no more.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2730214]Flew a lot on Jetblue they had good fares and did a great job but now under the new regulations they have become another Spirit. Pay for everything, carry on, check bag international, pay for a seat etc.[/QUOTE]Not true at all. I flew JetBlue Monday last week from Cuba to Fort Lauderdale, FL and a carry-on bag was included. I did not have to pay for it and it was and international flight. I also flew Viva from Medellin to Miami and carry-on was included. Spirit does charge for carry-on as well as Frontier.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2730296]Not true at all. I flew JetBlue Monday last week from Cuba to Fort Lauderdale, FL and a carry-on bag was included. I did not have to pay for it and it was and international flight. I also flew Viva from Medellin to Miami and carry-on was included. Spirit does charge for carry-on as well as Frontier.[/QUOTE]But only if you buy the Blue fare for about an extra 70/80 bucks. The base ticket called Blue Basic does not include any of that.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2730395]But only if you buy the Blue fare for about an extra 70/80 bucks. The base ticket called Blue Basic does not include any of that.[/QUOTE]Thanks all for your insights. My home destination is Denver. Leaving MDE on September 29. I bought the Spirit with 6 h layover in MIA. I know I'll be tired enough to not willing to risk to miss the connection and have to fight during the night to find the a new one. In a 6 h layover I have 3 h for all the security checks and then only 3 h waiting idle on a seat.

Spirit is expensive on bags: Carry-On=$46.20 Checked bag=$40.95. The checked bag is only for 40 lb instead of 50. I guess they hope on travelers error to charge the extra at the airport. The one-way went up to $330, bought directly on their site.

I use Skyscanner for searching, are you aware of any better search engine?

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2730457]Thanks all for your insights. My home destination is Denver. Leaving MDE on September 29. I bought the Spirit with 6 h layover in MIA. I know I'll be tired enough to not willing to risk to miss the connection and have to fight during the night to find the a new one. In a 6 h layover I have 3 h for all the security checks and then only 3 h waiting idle on a seat.

Spirit is expensive on bags: Carry-On=$46.20 Checked bag=$40.95. The checked bag is only for 40 lb instead of 50. I guess they hope on travelers error to charge the extra at the airport. The one-way went up to $330, bought directly on their site.

I use Skyscanner for searching, are you aware of any better search engine?[/QUOTE]Copa has a flight on September 29 for $392, which includes seat selection, carry-on bag, and one checked bag (50 lbs). You also get a hot meal. Connection is in Panama.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2730457]Thanks all for your insights. My home destination is Denver. Leaving MDE on September 29. I bought the Spirit with 6 h layover in MIA. I know I'll be tired enough to not willing to risk to miss the connection and have to fight during the night to find the a new one. In a 6 h layover I have 3 h for all the security checks and then only 3 h waiting idle on a seat.

Spirit is expensive on bags: Carry-On=$46.20 Checked bag=$40.95. The checked bag is only for 40 lb instead of 50. I guess they hope on travelers error to charge the extra at the airport. The one-way went up to $330, bought directly on their site.

I use Skyscanner for searching, are you aware of any better search engine?[/QUOTE]Kayak allows you to do +/- 3 days on fares. It is not better than skyscanner as a search engine but it allows you to find different fares more easily. It also lets you more easily pick two one way fares more easily than skyscanner does.

As for your layover, Miami has a really nice Amex Centurion club, but you need an Amex Platinum to get in, and it is a $695 annual fee, but here is the thing. You can get 4 cards for $865 so you can get them for a little over $200 if you have people you can trust with a credit card.

The food at these clubs is great. They have a full bar, and time flies when you are there. $695 seems like a lot but when you add up all the perks it is quite the value: [URL]https://www.cnbc.com/select/is-the-amex-platinum-worth-it/[/URL].

The real kicker though is the points offer up front. [URL]https://upgradedpoints.com/credit-cards/reviews/american-express-platinum-card/100k-offer/[/URL].

So if you use the card and get the points, that will pay for anywhere from 5 days to 2 weeks of a free stay at a nice hotel in Colombia. In essence, you are paying nothing for the card the first year.

Unfortunately, FLL does not have a centurion club like Miami.

Amex allows you a credit on baggage fees, but Spirit, Avianca, and Viva are not a part of their network, so you are stuck with those fees even if you use Amex. I have gotten around baggage fees by using a United credit card for United flights and having gold status with American in addition to having the Amex card. Thing is that even with the baggage fees Spirit and Viva are often way cheaper. Avianca seems just as expensive as the American airlines.

If you can get the global entry, do it. With the included TSA precheck and global entry, I get through security at most airports in less than 5 minutes and through American customs in less than 2.

If you travel more than 3 times a year, these perks are well worth it. They seem expensive until you are in a crowded airport for hours at a time.

Thanks to all who replied to my questions about Southeast Asia vs Colombia. The Colombia thread seems friendly and helpful.

Avianca also charges $45 for a carry on. I purchased over the phone with credit card. The Avianca telecommunications system is a nightmare with 5 of my calls being disconnected in one hour. Its the SOS "please go to the website".

I'm trying to find how time in advance will be a lotted to complete the Colombian migration docs before departure?

Last I flew it was only 24 hours in advance and link was sent from carrier (JetBlue).

I almost missed my last flight because of the difficulties I had at airport trying to complete form at airport -.

If your not to hip with the phones and apps I would make sure you complete this before arrival at airport.

[QUOTE=Adinga;2734225]I'm trying to find how time in advance will be a lotted to complete the Colombian migration docs before departure?

Last I flew it was only 24 hours in advance and link was sent from carrier (JetBlue).

I almost missed my last flight because of the difficulties I had at airport trying to complete form at airport -.

If your not to hip with the phones and apps I would make sure you complete this before arrival at airport.[/QUOTE]I've never used the link from JetBlue and always went to the site directly.

[URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf[/URL]

When you access the site after selecting language and mean of transport the disclaimer pops up letting users know it can be done 72 hours before departure and up to 1 hour before the trip closes.

I usually travel with my laptop and it makes it much easier than doing it on a phone and I normally fill it out the night before the flight before going out to party as I'm usually too messed up to want to do anything in the morning. So the more I do the night before while I'm sober the less I have to worry about I may have forgotten in the morning of when I'm hung over LOL.

I would suggest filling it out 48 hours before your departure date as it gives you one less thing to worry about on departure date.

I've seen many battle this hurdle at the airport in CTG after they pass the passport control and going to the Immigration Officer only to be sent back out to complete it and they are scrambling to try completing it on their phone or don't understand what they are supposed to do.

[QUOTE=Adinga;2734225]I'm trying to find how time in advance will be a lotted to complete the Colombian migration docs before departure?

Last I flew it was only 24 hours in advance and link was sent from carrier (JetBlue).

I almost missed my last flight because of the difficulties I had at airport trying to complete form at airport -.

If your not to hip with the phones and apps I would make sure you complete this before arrival at airport.[/QUOTE]You can complete it up to 72 hours in advance.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2730604]

Amex allows you a credit on baggage fees, but Spirit, Avianca, and Viva are not a part of their network, so you are stuck with those fees even if you use Amex. I have gotten around baggage fees by using a United credit card for United flights and having gold status with American in addition to having the Amex card. Thing is that even with the baggage fees Spirit and Viva are often way cheaper. Avianca seems just as expensive as the American airlines.

If you can get the global entry, do it. With the included TSA precheck and global entry, I get through security at most airports in less than 5 minutes and through American customs in less than 2.

If you travel more than 3 times a year, these perks are well worth it. They seem expensive until you are in a crowded airport for hours at a time.[/QUOTE]Amex is the tits and definitely worth the price of admission. In regards to the baggage or seat selection, spirit is definitely an option. Used it a few times to CO and just used it this week for a domestic flight. I normally use it for the big front seat selection. Plus priority pass is fantastic In CO and Asia, or hell most places internationally compared to the crap we have stateside. Also, don't forget the clear credit on personal and biz platinum. Clear plus pre check is a god send when leaving the states.

[QUOTE=Andersson25;2729181]

Cartagena seem to have the drawback of higher (tourist) prices but maybe the benefit of a fun tourist-destination. Right?

[/QUOTE]Don't forget the ridiculous humidity in CTG, that and all the touts put it way behind BOG or MDE for me. But otherwise, a good time.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2734293]When you access the site after selecting language and mean of transport the disclaimer pops up letting users know it can be done 72 hours before departure and up to 1 hour before the trip closes.[/QUOTE]The site says 72 hours, but it's actually less than that. The drop-down box lists three dates, which includes the day you access it. It would be more accurate to say two calendar days before the day of your flight. It's just a technicality; but if I had a Wednesday morning flight, I would expect to be able to check in Sunday afternoon, which is not possible.

[QUOTE=Adinga;2734225]I'm trying to find how time in advance will be a lotted to complete the Colombian migration docs before departure?

Last I flew it was only 24 hours in advance and link was sent from carrier (JetBlue).

I almost missed my last flight because of the difficulties I had at airport trying to complete form at airport -.

If your not to hip with the phones and apps I would make sure you complete this before arrival at airport.[/QUOTE]When it first came out the Check-mig was a pain in the ass. I once actually cancelled a trip to Colombia because I was so frustrated and returned a few days later once I got it down. For me. The form seems easier using my Iphone than my laptop.

Spent 82 days already this year in Colombia and going back to Bogota next month to use all my 180 days for the tourist visa.

I have done this exact thing the past three years, and extended my visa online through the Colombian immigration website (prerroga de permancia) from 90 to 180 days with zero problems.

I have submitted the extension paperwork three times this past month, hoping it was just a disgruntled employee rejecting me, and each time received a "rechazo" (rejection) response from them with no other explanation.

Pretty annoying.

I even included my return ticket back to the states, along with my passport bio and entry / exit stamp from earlier this year in the documentation.

I'm going to have to go in person to the immigration office when I land for the visa extension, I hope to god they extend it.

Has this happened to anyone else?

Thanks for your time as always.

JW.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2735330]Spent 82 days already this year in Colombia and going back to Bogota next month to use all my 180 days for the tourist visa.

I have done this exact thing the past three years, and extended my visa online through the Colombian immigration website (prerroga de permancia) from 90 to 180 days with zero problems.

I have submitted the extension paperwork three times this past month, hoping it was just a disgruntled employee rejecting me, and each time received a "rechazo" (rejection) response from them with no other explanation.

Pretty annoying.

I even included my return ticket back to the states, along with my passport bio and entry / exit stamp from earlier this year in the documentation.

I'm going to have to go in person to the immigration office when I land for the visa extension, I hope to god they extend it.

Has this happened to anyone else?

Thanks for your time as always.

JW.[/QUOTE]What is your home country?

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2735508]What is your home country?[/QUOTE]American. I work remote. Thinking it could have something to do with the new visa digital nomad thing? Or maybe the new president? I have no idea TBH.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2735655]American. I work remote. Thinking it could have something to do with the new visa digital nomad thing? Or maybe the new president? I have no idea TBH.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's me that is confused, but in a calendar year you can stay a total of 180 days, up to 90 days at a time. Without any paperwork. If that is true, we are talking about an 8 day difference if you are truly trying to use the rest of your time this year. So if that's true, either leave the country for a day to reset the clock, or cut your trip short 8 days to avoid the issue.

Curious about your situation though since it would apply to me too. I really hope you are wrong though.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2736040]Maybe it's me that is confused, but in a calendar year you can stay a total of 180 days, up to 90 days at a time. Without any paperwork. If that is true, we are talking about an 8 day difference if you are truly trying to use the rest of your time this year. So if that's true, either leave the country for a day to reset the clock, or cut your trip short 8 days to avoid the issue.

Curious about your situation though since it would apply to me too. I really hope you are wrong though.[/QUOTE]One consideration is Colombia calculates days as all days you've spent any time in Colombia. For example, if you arrive Monday night and leave the next morning, that is two days, even though you were there less than 24 hours.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2736040]Maybe it's me that is confused, but in a calendar year you can stay a total of 180 days, up to 90 days at a time. Without any paperwork. If that is true, we are talking about an 8 day difference if you are truly trying to use the rest of your time this year. So if that's true, either leave the country for a day to reset the clock, or cut your trip short 8 days to avoid the issue.

Curious about your situation though since it would apply to me too. I really hope you are wrong though.[/QUOTE]You can only stay up to 90 days in a calendar year on a tourist visa (without the extension). The clock only resets every year on January 1st.

If you want to stay the full 180 days on the tourist visa, you have to file the 90 day extension on the Colombian immigration website in the "prorroga de permanencia" section and pay the 99 k cop fee.

Just google "Colombia tourist visa extension" , there's a lot of websites that show the step by step process.

I've done this the past three years, staying 80 or so days in the spring / summer, filing an extension online, and heading back to complete the 180 days in the fall. This time they're just denying the online extension with no explanation.

But yea, thanks for the tip funlovr, It looks like I'll only have like 5-6 days left when I land, so I'll be heading straight to the immigration office when it opens in the morning to file the extension in person. Fingers crossed.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2736060]You can only stay up to 90 days in a calendar year on a tourist visa (without the extension). The clock only resets every year on January 1st.

If you want to stay the full 180 days on the tourist visa, you have to file the 90 day extension on the Colombian immigration website in the "prorroga de permanencia" section and pay the 99 k cop fee.

Just google "Colombia tourist visa extension" , there's a lot of websites that show the step by step process.

I've done this the past three years, staying 80 or so days in the spring / summer, filing an extension online, and heading back to complete the 180 days in the fall. This time they're just denying the online extension with no explanation.

But yea, thanks for the tip funlovr, It looks like I'll only have like 5-6 days left when I land, so I'll be heading straight to the immigration office when it opens in the morning to file the extension in person. Fingers crossed.[/QUOTE]That might be what I have to do tomorrow. Hopefully my Colombian friend can come since I don't speak Spanish.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2736164]That might be what I have to do tomorrow. Hopefully my Colombian friend can come since I don't speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]Um so you want to keep going to this country for six months at a time but you can't be bothered to learn their language? Wow.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2736328]Um so you want to keep going to this country for six months at a time but you can't be bothered to learn their language? Wow.[/QUOTE]I am taking lessons and learning. But very doubtful I could navigate a government office with what I know in Spanish. Knowing vocabulary and some basic phrases does not mean I know Spanish. This is my third time back this year that is pushing me over the 90 days and language is hard for me. Not that I really need to explain anything to you. And even if I wasn't, I don't judge other people that come to the US that don't speak English.

Also, not that anyone should take my advice, but after reading many websites and having my friend call immigration the verdict is........ As of a 2020 law / regulation

That I don't need to do the online renewal since I left before 90 days and reentered the country. My new stamp in my passport says 90 days, and I will be using less. Presumably if I came back in and only had 3 weeks left, my stamp would say 21 days. After googling the phrases, the language used seemed to say the additional paperwork was needed if you wanted to stay consecutively for more than 90 days up to the 180.

So I still might be wrong but it makes sense to me. I am curious what immigration tells you.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2736462]Also, not that anyone should take my advice, but after reading many websites and having my friend call immigration the verdict is........ As of a 2020 law / regulation

That I don't need to do the online renewal since I left before 90 days and reentered the country. My new stamp in my passport says 90 days, and I will be using less. Presumably if I came back in and only had 3 weeks left, my stamp would say 21 days. After googling the phrases, the language used seemed to say the additional paperwork was needed if you wanted to stay consecutively for more than 90 days up to the 180.

So I still might be wrong but it makes sense to me. I am curious what immigration tells you.[/QUOTE]You are correct.

JohnnyWalker55's post is a little misleading. It would be more clear if he stated "You can only stay up to 90 [B]consecutive[/B] days in a calendar year on a tourist visa (without the extension)."

Hey guys,

Looking for some advice on sites to use. I have tried out latinAmericaCupid and Tinder. The price structure is quite high LAC and you can't respond to emails unless you have upgraded your membership. The problem there is most of the women also have basic profiles so you really can't communicate. I've also looked at Tinder without much success. Let me know if there are any sites anyone recommends to meet and chat with Colombian women. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Parkway95;2740124]Hey guys,

Looking for some advice on sites to use. I have tried out latinAmericaCupid and Tinder. The price structure is quite high LAC and you can't respond to emails unless you have upgraded your membership. The problem there is most of the women also have basic profiles so you really can't communicate. I've also looked at Tinder without much success. Let me know if there are any sites anyone recommends to meet and chat with Colombian women. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I had some mixed results, but when I go back I plan to use sites more. Here's what I found:

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/sofia-flaca-tetona-natural-muy-caliente/22960654/[/URL]

[URL]https://ellaserotic.co/model/fernanda/[/URL]

[URL]https://catadorcolombia.com/[/URL] <-This site has some good reviews.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/[/URL]

Good luck!

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2740328]I had some mixed results, but when I go back I plan to use sites more. Here's what I found:

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/sofia-flaca-tetona-natural-muy-caliente/22960654/[/URL]

[URL]https://ellaserotic.co/model/fernanda/[/URL]

[URL]https://catadorcolombia.com/[/URL] <-This site has some good reviews.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/[/URL]

Good luck![/QUOTE]Great, thanks for the tips. I do find Latin America cupid quite entertaining browsing and getting all the likes and emails (that neither of us can read), but want to find a nice penpal where I can practice my Spanish and work up enough of a relationship to go visit.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2736480]You are correct.

JohnnyWalker55's post is a little misleading. It would be more clear if he stated "You can only stay up to 90 [B]consecutive[/B] days in a calendar year on a tourist visa (without the extension)."[/QUOTE]So apparently some law changed? Or it's always been this way?

I've always had to pay the 99 k cop fee online to get a 90 day visa extension on the tourist visa, as I was under the impression you could only stay 90 days on a tourist visa without an extension.

But when I got to the airport they marked a "90" on my passport, meaning I have another 90 days here, having already spent 84 in the spring.

They said I get 180 total days per calendar year, and the 90 *consecutive* days restart when you leave the county. The extension is only if you want more than 180 total days in a calendar year.

So, for future reference to anyone reading this, you get 180 total days a year in Colombia as a tourist, but cannot stay more than 90 consecutive days.

The consecutive day counter restarts when you leave the country, and the 180 days restart on Jan. 1st every year.

All that headache for nothing! LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2740942]So apparently some law changed? Or it's always been this way?

I've always had to pay the 99 k cop fee online to get a 90 day visa extension on the tourist visa, as I was under the impression you could only stay 90 days on a tourist visa without an extension.

But when I got to the airport they marked a "90" on my passport, meaning I have another 90 days here, having already spent 84 in the spring.

They said I get 180 total days per calendar year, and the 90 *consecutive* days restart when you leave the county. The extension is only if you want more than 180 total days in a calendar year.

So, for future reference to anyone reading this, you get 180 total days a year in Colombia as a tourist, but cannot stay more than 90 consecutive days.

The consecutive day counter restarts when you leave the country, and the 180 days restart on Jan. 1st every year.

All that headache for nothing! LOL.[/QUOTE]Overcomplicates it from what I understand.

First, without an extension you can only stay in the country for 90 days. But, if you get the extension while within the country you can stay up to 180 days total.

If you come into the country, stay less than or up to 90 days, and then leave, you can then re-enter and stay up to another 90 days. You don't have to do anything in particular to do this.

The extension only applies in situation 1. And without some other type of visa you cannot get an extension to stay more than 180 days.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2741074]Overcomplicates it from what I understand. First, without an extension you can only stay in the country for 90 days. But, if you get the extension while within the country you can stay up to 180 days total. If you come into the country, stay less than or up to 90 days, and then leave, you can then re-enter and stay up to another 90 days. You don't have to do anything in particular to do this. The extension only applies in situation 1. And without some other type of visa you cannot get an extension to stay more than 180 days.[/QUOTE]Do you mind pointing to your reference for this data? I'm also being told that if you stay for instance, 65 days, and then you leave. An immigration guy said that counter picks up where it left off when you left, and you only have 25 days before you need to submit an extension, not another 90 days.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2741163]I'm also being told that if you stay for instance, 65 days, and then you leave. An immigration guy said that counter picks up where it left off when you left, and you only have 25 days before you need to submit an extension, not another 90 days.[/QUOTE]That is not true. The maximum allowed stay is 90 days for EACH entry. When you leave the country, you get an exit stamp and must complete CheckMig. And when you re-enter, you get a new dated visa stamp. On the lower right corner of the visa stamp, the immigration officer hand writes the number of days it is good for. All my stamps have written "90" although I have never entered the country within 90 days of being issued a previous entry visa. Foreigners are limited to 180 total days in a calendar year. But no where is it written that you must stay out for a minimum of 90 consecutive days after your previous entry stamp date. For the sake of simplicity, let's say each month is 30 days, instead of 31 or 28. Suppose you enter on Jan 1, then you must leave by March 30. Suppose you exit March 28. And you re-enter March 29. Then is your new visa stamp only good for 1 day? Doesn't seem to me any government would issue 1 day visas since the risk of overstay would be extraordinarily high. Suppose the same scenario, you enter Jan 1 and exit March 28. And re-enter April 1. Then you get a fresh 90 day visa because your new entry date is outside the 90 days of your previous visa. It is illogical. Every time you legally exit the country, your 90 day allowance resets, with the exception being if you have already stayed 91 days for more in that calendar year. For example, if you've already stayed 100 days, then your new visa would be good for 80 days, not 90.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2741163]Do you mind pointing to your reference for this data? I'm also being told that if you stay for instance, 65 days, and then you leave. An immigration guy said that counter picks up where it left off when you left, and you only have 25 days before you need to submit an extension, not another 90 days.[/QUOTE]I don't have a reference, but here is real life data. I also have an exit on 28 Feb 2022 and an entrance on 3 Jun 2022, on other pages. All four entrances have 90 days authorized.

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2741298]That is not true. The maximum allowed stay is 90 days for EACH entry. When you leave the country, you get an exit stamp and must complete CheckMig. And when you re-enter, you get a new dated visa stamp. On the lower right corner of the visa stamp, the immigration officer hand writes the number of days it is good for. All my stamps have written "90" although I have never entered the country within 90 days of being issued a previous entry visa. Foreigners are limited to 180 total days in a calendar year. But no where is it written that you must stay out for a minimum of 90 consecutive days after your previous entry stamp date. For the sake of simplicity, let's say each month is 30 days, instead of 31 or 28. Suppose you enter on Jan 1, then you must leave by March 30. Suppose you exit March 28. And you re-enter March 29. Then is your new visa stamp only good for 1 day? Doesn't seem to me any government would issue 1 day visas since the risk of overstay would be extraordinarily high. Suppose the same scenario, you enter Jan 1 and exit March 28. And re-enter April 1. Then you get a fresh 90 day visa because your new entry date is outside the 90 days of your previous visa. It is illogical. Every time you legally exit the country, your 90 day allowance resets, with the exception being if you have already stayed 91 days for more in that calendar year. For example, if you've already stayed 100 days, then your new visa would be good for 80 days, not 90.[/QUOTE]I reported further down a Colombian friend called and it's up to 90 days each time, not to exceed the 180. Not that anything government related has to make sense, but it truley is the only thing that makes sense and is manageable. The government wants our tourist dollars and I seriously doubt many people claim the tax rebate.

There's a small chance I am coming back with only like 25 days left before year end. I'll report back if I do and a smaller number is written on my passport. I'm also leaving in October and will report back if anyone says anything.

I recently took a trip to Medellin and stayed in the Poblado area. I can walk for hours where I live with no problems but there are zero hills where I am. Walking in Poblado is completely different. I'm in my early fifties and am of average height and about average BMI. Hill walking is much much harder than flat walking. If you're not used to it, I recommend hitting the treadmill at an incline to maybe make it easier. That's what I'm going to do next trip.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2740328]I had some mixed results, but when I go back I plan to use sites more. Here's what I found:

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/sofia-flaca-tetona-natural-muy-caliente/22960654/[/URL]

[URL]https://ellaserotic.co/model/fernanda/[/URL]

[URL]https://catadorcolombia.com/[/URL] <-This site has some good reviews.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/[/URL]

Good luck![/QUOTE]Update on Colombian dating sites. The sites mentioned are escort sites above which could be useful. I've tried these 2 sites and more information:

[URL]https://www.latinamericancupid.com[/URL] - interesting site and lot of attractive women to browse. I figured out a way to email with a Brazilian girl but turned out to be a scam attempt. I get lots of messages, but you and they cannot read responses with a standard account. I get a lot of messages from women who also have standard accounts so it's near impossible to communicate. So even if you do get a premium account you can't communicate with standard users. It is entertaining but overall kind of pointless.

[URL]https://la-date.com[/URL] - you get some free message and communication but quickly free credits run out. The messages I get are obviously either fake or generated by profiles that the site creates. It appears they create their own fake profiles and just have staff that send you messages. I get crazy messages like I want to come fly to see you.

It seems like there has to be some way to meet real Colombian women online for free (non-escorts) but wading through all the fake profiles is tough. I try to go through both sites and look for non-professional type photos but even those I think are fake.

Ok, so now I have the correct info, and I won't be dealing with the guy with the huge immigration website for Colombia anymore. His reply to me with the 65 day thing seemed a bit shady.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2741542]I recently took a trip to Medellin and stayed in the Poblado area. I can walk for hours where I live with no problems but there are zero hills where I am. Walking in Poblado is completely different. I'm in my early fifties and am of average height and about average BMI. Hill walking is much much harder than flat walking. If you're not used to it, I recommend hitting the treadmill at an incline to maybe make it easier. That's what I'm going to do next trip.[/QUOTE]Or you can stay in Laureles and avoid all the hills.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2741868]Or you can stay in Laureles and avoid all the hills.[/QUOTE]I was talking with a nice guy in the airport and he talked about how he stayed in an AirBnB in Laureles. I think that's what I'm going to do for my next trip. I'll look for a guest friendly AirBnb and go there.

[QUOTE=Parkway95;2741551][URL]https://www.latinamericancupid.com[/URL] - interesting site and lot of attractive women to browse. I figured out a way to email with a Brazilian girl but turned out to be a scam attempt. I get lots of messages, but you and they cannot read responses with a standard account. I get a lot of messages from women who also have standard accounts so it's near impossible to communicate. So even if you do get a premium account you can't communicate with standard users. It is entertaining but overall kind of pointless.[/QUOTE]I have been on cupid for over 17 years and met hundreds of women that are not hookers. Of course you can communicate with standard female members when you are a premium male member.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2741954]I have been on cupid for over 17 years and met hundreds of women that are not hookers. Of course you can communicate with standard female members when you are a premium male member.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the insight. I get tons of emails from girls and of course since I have a standard account I can't email back. From the look of the girls it almost looks too good to be true. Colombia must really be that awesome. I'll go ahead and give the gold membership a try.

[QUOTE=Parkway95;2742773]Thanks for the insight. I get tons of emails from girls and of course since I have a standard account I can't email back. From the look of the girls it almost looks too good to be true. Colombia must really be that awesome. I'll go ahead and give the gold membership a try.[/QUOTE]I did the gold membership on LatinaAmerica cupid and seems worthwhile. I got tons of messages and likes so have to sift through all the girls and figure out which ones are legit. It seems pretty easy to sort out scams although some take a bit of time to uncover.

[QUOTE=Parkway95;2742975]I did the gold membership on LatinaAmerica cupid and seems worthwhile. I got tons of messages and likes so have to sift through all the girls and figure out which ones are legit. It seems pretty easy to sort out scams although some take a bit of time to uncover.[/QUOTE]Just another update on LatinaAmerica cupid. So there are actually some real girls on there. I chatted with one average type girl and she chatted my head off. Quite nice but I could feel the desperation. I was kind of feeling it out to get the feel if she was an actual real person and she was. I'm sure some of these girls really want to escape from a very difficult life where they are. I'm not looking for hookers on that particular site, but again I'm not looking for a wife either LOL. Will keep searching to find something in between.

Ok so after one week of LatinamericCupid, my inbox is filled. I would say 30-40% look like fake profiles and I got a few from Brazil that gave me their email and obvious fake after I gave them my burner email. Lot of fake profiles from Brazil. Maybe 25% Colombian messages I get are the homely a bit overweight type, but cute. They seem to be looking for the lottery out of Colombia to the US and really want an American husband. They are sweet but seem very desperate. Ok, to chat with but not what I'm looking for when I visit. I found a few cute 40 ish type girls that seem real and are hot. The chats are brief and cutesy. The other thing I am seeing are a ton of Dominican women sending me messages; some AA. I really don't have any desire at this point to visit DR but maybe in the future. The site is a bit overwhelming w / so many women emailing and having to filter through fake profiles. The girls that really want to chat again are the homely type. Nice to chat with but I can only imagine the cling-on situation if I visited. The site takes some time investment but it is fun.

My friend is unable to swallow and as a result he must constantly spit into a cup. This can be a bit nauseating for some people. Looking for suggestions on where to take him. I know someone will hang with him, but would like for him to have the best experience possible. Any suggestions would be highly appreIciated.

[QUOTE=BigTimeFun;2747202]My friend is unable to swallow and as a result he must constantly spit into a cup. This can be a bit nauseating for some people. Looking for suggestions on where to take him. I know someone will hang with him, but would like for him to have the best experience possible. Any suggestions would be highly appreIciated.[/QUOTE]Sorry to read this about your friend. Most casas have a 30 to 60 minute time limit. If your friend could restrain from spitting for that time it would greatly help him, this could be a problem anywhere in the world. A suggestion would be to take in some cotton in the mouth to absorb the saliva for a quick casa session and just not saying anything to the girl. Good luck.

I don't remember exactly what the XE was when I first went to Colombia but I think it was around 1500/1600 to USD. At that time I was mongering mostly with prepagos and paying something like 200,000 more or less for top talent in Tourist Traps like Lylos etc and was around $125 at the old XE.

Now even if a girl wants 300,00 it's around $66 usd. At the current XE no matter how you shake it, it's good for us.

Wonder what's in store for the dollar? Everything I read is a negative outlook for the dollar and if that will impact the COP / USD situation. I may be living in Colombia next year so trying to decide on a future budget for Colombia is dicy at best. I'd be interested in what any of our Wharton grad. Members have to say on the subject.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2750333]I don't remember exactly what the XE was when I first went to Colombia but I think it was around 1500/1600 to USD. At that time I was mongering mostly with prepagos and paying something like 200,000 more or less for top talent in Tourist Traps like Lylos etc and was around $125 at the old XE.

Now even if a girl wants 300,00 it's around $66 usd. At the current XE no matter how you shake it, it's good for us.

Wonder what's in store for the dollar? Everything I read is a negative outlook for the dollar and if that will impact the COP / USD situation. I may be living in Colombia next year so trying to decide on a future budget for Colombia is dicy at best. I'd be interested in what any of our Wharton grad. Members have to say on the subject.[/QUOTE]Feds going to bump the rate 75 points again next month most likely.