Moscow

[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;1912179]Arrived yesterday at Sheremetyevo. Got a sim card from the Megaphone store in the arrival area. It was pretty easy with the staff being able to speak English. I opted for the 4 gb 200 min package for 300 RUB. Had my first bad experience at Belarusky station when I was trying to explain to the lady at the ticket counter that I needed a troycard, to which she simply replied 'Go please! The metro system can be really hard to understand too. It seems though most people here won't even bother to communicate if you don't speak Russian. All these little encounters made me feel quite sad and left me questioning why I even came here. My biggest worry was how the hell am I supposed to get around by taxi late at night, when I can't even figure out the damn metro.

However, my impression started to get much better as I arrived at the hotel. There I also saw for the first time the first official 'mythical 11' in the lobby making her way out through the exit. Around 177-180 tall platinum blonde in high heels, looking very luxurious and posh. Probably better looking than any fashion model I saw on TV.s.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing MGLbadboi, great report! I can't wait to hear the rest of the trip and in particular your visits to the Loft and other strip clubs in Moscow.

Going to Moscow for the first time, will be staying at Mamaison Pokrovka. Anyone know if this place is girl-friendly?

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Sanman30;1914569]Going to Moscow for the first time, will be staying at Mamaison Pokrovka. Anyone know if this place is girl-friendly?

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Man, that's a tough one. Mamaison Pokrovka is kind of in the middle between a Western hotel and a Russian hotel. Sorry man, you are going to have to blaze the trail!

Before arriving in Moscow, I bought a pair of Italian leather shoes hoping it would comply with the dress code. So on Friday night I put them on and went to check out Loft which was just across the street from Crowne Plaza. There was no cross walk so I had to use the underground pedestrian to get to the other side (The entrance is located 50 meters north of the hotel, but still inside the parking lot). Paid 2000 to enter and I felt very comfortable being there alone. There were 20 + strippers, many of them looked like pros or had huge lips and some were aging. Not my type. Communication can be a problem here if you don't speak Russian, and it can work against you sometimes. I had 2 brunettes earlier, so I had my eyes on this very slutty looking yet doable blonde and she was almost an 8. As I waited for her 2-3 brunettes came to offer dances for 300 RUB each. One of them was a young brunette with a pleasant face (probably the best looking from the crowd) but didn't lead up to anything more private either due to miscommunication. Finally the slutty looking blonde came to me. She had a really sexy village accent, Yay! During our short talk I think she mentioned something about private dance before moving on to other possible customers to solicit dance / sex. Again, language barrier being the cause I guess? Anyway, I wasn't really surprised with the girls there to be honest, so after a couple more drinks I left.

Moved to Novotel Moscow City in the business district the next day. A 3-star hotel with clean rooms and tolerant securities at a reasonable cost. Room key is not needed to use the elevator so its very convenient to bring in girls. I was having some very promising chats with 3 girls from intimacy over whatsapp / msgs.

Anketa- [URL]https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=255839[/URL].

Elivira- [URL]https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=266692[/URL].

Yulya- [URL]https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=269325[/URL].

The first 2 were high on my priority list, as I liked their photos a lot. I wanted to have a long crazy session with Anketa or Elivira, but was worried that I won't be able to hold for very long. So I thought why not call Yulya the black girl first for desert like some kind of warm-up before moving on to the main course. Within half an hour a meeting was arranged with the black girl at 15:00, and another meeting a bit later at 19:00 with Elivira.

Yulya matched the photos, but a bit more petite than the photos. She was actually a very cute black girl, very GFE and I liked hugging her though I would probably not repeat again or with any other black girl. So after sending Yulya away, I had another shower and waited for Elivira. I must say I was blown away when I opened the door for Elivira, a well dressed 180 tall brunette in high heels she was almost 1 feet taller than me. She really seems to enjoy sex and likes to talk during sex. She was also friendly and gave me some really amazing OWO We had sex in the chair, on the sofa and I finished in missionary after which I placed my head between her breasts and rested on her for 5 minutes.

I stayed at StandArt for my last night. After some sightseeing in red square I went back to Vanilia again, but this time I really came at a busy time. I was told to sit on the sofa next to the reception desk and wait for 10 to 20 minutes. Half an hour passed, still no sign of available service for me, but I saw this really good looking blonde, skinny tall definitely a 9 (maybe a 10 to some of you) walked up to the reception and quickly went back in. Finally after another 20 minutes, they were ready to serve me, but the selection was limited to 2 girls, and the pretty blonde was still on clock. The reception suggested that I should come back at 9 pm for better selection. So I left Vanilia, and started trying to arrange something with Anketa, but that never happened either as she has 'spontaneous' schedules. Another girl from intimacy who looked kind of like Megan Fox texted me saying that she was available to meet me, to which I agreed. Well, lets say it was an above average session. By the time it was over, I was tired so I went straight to bed. Didn't bother going back to Vanilia nor Night Flight.

To conclude, I would say Moscow is definitely a top destination for mongering. But a deep pocket and some language skills are the key to maximize the pleasure. If I could start it all over again, I would definitely pay more visits to Vanilia, and try out some other strip clubs with more patience or Night flight.

[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;1915484]Before arriving in Moscow, I bought a pair of Italian leather shoes hoping it would comply with the dress code. So on Friday night I put them on and went to check out Loft which was just across the street from Crowne Plaza. There was no cross walk so I had to use the underground pedestrian to get to the other side (The entrance is located 50 meters north of the hotel, but still inside the parking lot). Paid 2000 to enter and I felt very comfortable being there alone. There were 20 + strippers, many of them looked like pros or had huge lips and some were aging. Not my type. Communication can be a problem here if you don't speak Russian, and it can work against you sometimes. I had 2 brunettes earlier, so I had my eyes on this very slutty looking yet doable blonde and she was almost an 8. As I waited for her 2-3 brunettes came to offer dances for 300 RUB each. One of them was a young brunette with a pleasant face (probably the best looking from the crowd) but didn't lead up to anything more private either due to miscommunication. Finally the slutty looking blonde came to me. She had a really sexy village accent, Yay! During our short talk I think she mentioned something about private dance before moving on to other possible customers to solicit dance / sex. Again, language barrier being the cause I guess? Anyway, I wasn't really surprised with the girls there to be honest, so after a couple more drinks I left..[/QUOTE]Thanks again for sharing your experience. You are not kidding about deep pocket. Checking the web site of the "intimacy" and looks like nothing good below $250 for an hour. Are you able to exchange money freely at the ATM's? Looks like $6500 Rub. For a $100 - is this about correct?

[QUOTE=Georgest;1916153]Thanks again for sharing your experience. You are not kidding about deep pocket. Checking the web site of the "intimacy" and looks like nothing good below $250 for an hour. Are you able to exchange money freely at the ATM's? Looks like $6500 Rub. For a $100 - is this about correct?[/QUOTE]I changed money at Belarusky station, but they deducted 3% for their service which I thought was quite expensive. You can find these small exchange offices everywhere. Make sure to carry USD or EUR as they are more common / accepted. You can also pull local money out from cash machines. With intimacy, my advise is to look on the left and click on 'elite girls'. Go for the better looking, and more expensive ones. Use google translate to read everything on their profile, and the reviews. I found the market in Moscow to be quite mature. You pay more, you get better girl with better service and vise versa.

I say it would be a mistake to not go to Vanilia. I was really amazed with the line up. I still think about this young blond from my last visit to Vanilia even though I was not able to get a massage from her.

[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;1915484]
I stayed at StandArt for my last night. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the report MGLbadboi. Can we say then, that StartArt is "girl friendly"? It looks like it is based on your report. Please confirm. Cheers, Jake.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1916337]Thanks for the report MGLbadboi. Can we say then, that StartArt is "girl friendly"? It looks like it is based on your report. Please confirm. Cheers, Jake.[/QUOTE]The lobby is very small and it felt like the policy was a bit more strict than Crowne Plaza and Novotel. Ask for where to smoke, its actually a hidden exit right next to the elevator that will lead you outside to the other side of the building. In my case, I picked up my girl at 8 pm, outside the main entrance on Pushkinsky, then I took her in through the 'hidden' entrance and were able to get into elevator unnoticed.

The rooms at StandArd are huge and extremely nice. They have gigantic TVs probably 70 inch and when you turn it off, it works as a mirror. Really cool lighting too. It will be perfect if you can get a 9 or 10 from NF or something and move on to some crazy session on those huge comfy bed, if you like mirror all the better.

[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;1916366] In my case, I picked up my girl at 8 pm, outside the main entrance on Pushkinsky, then I took her in through the 'hidden' entrance and were able to get into elevator unnoticed.
[/QUOTE]You sly dog! Well done!! Thanks for the tip!

After a long business week, I decided to throw the cap over the mill and visit a domina in Moscow.

After searching through the web, I found some interesting offers on [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL] , there I came across Mistress Karolina who I have known for some time and had a session with in Vienna before.

As I had already really very good experience with her there, I decided not to tempt fate by looking for something new and called her.

She didn't answer the phone right away, but answered my sms, we arranged a meeting in her BDSM studio. Great place that is well-equipped as well.

Prior to the session we discussed the scenario, I wanted the hard session. Mistress Karolina made her modifications to my plot, she is great at communication, smooth and friendly.

But during the session she gave herself to the process completely without any falsity and artificiality, seemed she likes it herself a lot.

Great experience, wonderful studio, professional level, very good looks as well, exactly as the photos, model body and go go dancer, very hot chick.

I didn't met a better one so far, neither in Europe nor in Moscow. Big plus is that she is fluent in English and understood me completely.

And also has her own site:

[URL]www.moscowfemdom.com[/URL]

Good luch to all!

[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;1915484]Before arriving in Moscow, I bought a pair of Italian leather shoes hoping it would comply with the dress code. So on Friday night I put them on and went to check out Loft which was just across the street from Crowne Plaza. There was no cross walk so I had to use the underground pedestrian to get to the other side (The entrance is located 50 meters north of the hotel, but still inside the parking lot). Paid 2000 to enter and I felt very comfortable being there alone. There were 20 + strippers, many of them looked like pros or had huge lips and some were aging. Not my type. Communication can be a problem here if you don't speak Russian, and it can work against you sometimes. I had 2 brunettes earlier, so I had my eyes on this very slutty looking yet doable blonde and she was almost an 8. As I waited for her 2-3 brunettes came to offer dances for 300 RUB each. One of them was a young brunette with a pleasant face (probably the best looking from the crowd) but didn't lead up to anything more private either due to miscommunication. Finally the slutty looking blonde came to me. She had a really sexy village accent, Yay! During our short talk I think she mentioned something about private dance before moving on to other possible customers to solicit dance / sex. Again, language barrier being the cause I guess? Anyway, I wasn't really surprised with the girls there to be honest, so after a couple more drinks I left...[/QUOTE]Hello MGLbadboi,

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

I have been reading the Moscow forum while sometimes now and intimacy has a lot to offer. I'm really excited and can't wait to my first trip to Moscow.

As always, we all run into language barrier and from time to time we need help from the locals. It would be super if we have someone in Moscow forum offer their assistant, like Il Drago from Budapest forum.

WW

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;1908277]Have already tried "Caf" Ego Gold? It is located close to Metro Mayakowskaya. Seems to be the new real thing. My colleague went there and was really impressed. It is located in the corner between Spiridonovka and Emolaevsky.[/QUOTE]I could not find Cafe EGO GOLD, where is it exactly?

[QUOTE=Chercheur;1918708]I could not find Cafe EGO GOLD, where is it exactly?[/QUOTE]I believe it is in the Peking Hotel complex which is on the west side of Mayakovskaya Square.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1918735]I believe it is in the Peking Hotel complex which is on the west side of Mayakovskaya Square.[/QUOTE]No, it is wrong Jake. Ego gold is just few meters from the Patryarchy Prudi, on the other side of the Sadovaya. I already put the correct address on this Forum. It is the newest Venue in town.

I know about it because my colleague has been there. The place was a karaoke bar before. Now it is a "VIP gentlemen's club" as my buddy put it.

Attention: Face control.

[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;1915484] There were 20 + strippers, many of them looked like pros or had huge lips and some were aging. Not my type..[/QUOTE]Mine neither. It is becoming popular now to enlarge lips. One of my regular WGs asked me if she should do it. I said "no, you don't need it as you already have beautiful lips". Actually their lips look normal, and I was OK with that. Well she did the operation anyway), now she's looking like a female bozo. She agrees that this was a mistake.

Well, of course juicy lips are better for sucking a cock, but other than that I don't see any aesthetic advantages. Before the op she looked normal, now she looks like a professional Dick Sucker.

It has been a old discussion. Overall, where is the better city for mongering and not get ripped off easily, Kir or Moscow. I saw YouTube videos about Kiev and I think Moscow would be more classy and have more other things to do like sightseeing there.

[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;1920079]It has been a old discussion. Overall, where is the better city for mongering and not get ripped off easily, Kir or Moscow. I saw YouTube videos about Kiev and I think Moscow would be more classy and have more other things to do like sightseeing there.[/QUOTE]Wrong question. Correct answer: Petersburg.

Kiev vs. Moscow is a tough question.

I was not long enough in Kiev in order to judge fairly, but I was quite impressed with the quality and talents over there.

Plus the prices are way lower than in Moscow in almost any kind of services.

Mamba is a gold mine.

I use it in Moscow as an elderly man; it is full of women in their 30's and 40's who are attractive and sexually liberated, who have a normal job, decent money, 1 or 2 kids, and no husband or friend. They are very happy to meet a decent man and have sex.

I always pay to avoid any misunderstanding and any further disappointment, but maximum 10,000 rubles (150 $).

They know what is the purpose of the meeting and they accept it, so most of the times, if not every time, they get their clothes off right away, take a shower and we make love like real lovers, woooooo I love the Russian women.

No commitment, just if I want to see them again some time later, I just call them and we set up a meeting, and no question asked.

It is very easy to be busy every day.

I have been learning Russian for 8 years and it pays, if you speak only English, that reduces the number, but the best ones speak English (the real hookers too).

[QUOTE=Chercheur;1922601] I have been learning Russian for 8 years and it pays, if you speak only English, that reduces the number, but the best ones speak English (the real hookers too).[/QUOTE]Oh Gaspodi. 8 years is a long time.

Have you learned in a school or just by speaking on everyday (like I do). I am lazy to go to a language school.

Do you think it is possible to learn it by just speaking to Russians and watching movies / hearing Russian songs?

Which method would you recommend best?

[QUOTE=Chercheur;1922601]Mamba is a gold mine.[/QUOTE]I used Mamba with great success (in Moscow and SPB) for casual sexual encounters for several years and then had a string of bad luck so I stopped. But looking back, the greatest success was with girls (women) who were older than about 27. With younger girls, Mamba was a disaster. All kinds of mis-matched expectations. I agree with you Chercheur, if used correctly, Mamba can be a goldmine.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;1924064]Oh Gaspodi. 8 years is a long time.

Have you learned in a school or just by speaking on everyday (like I do). I am lazy to go to a language school.

Do you think it is possible to learn it by just speaking to Russians and watching movies / hearing Russian songs?

Which method would you recommend best?[/QUOTE]IMHO I don't think you can learn a language which is as different as the Russian language just by speaking; the grammatical is specific, the words are not similar, and the way to talk is different.

On the opposite Portuguese is a Latin language and as a French speaker, I am leaning it just by speaking and reading a school book, 70% of the words are similar.

I start learning Russian at 50 by spending one month every year in a language school in Russia.

On the second year I could meet with only Russian speaking women, and maybe on the fourth year I could take the appointment by phone.

A great advantage of learning Russian is that the Russians love to be loved, and for them to learn their language is a proof of love, and I can see it in my relations with the women.

It is still sometimes difficult to find the Dom, the korpus and the Podvest, but that is not only due to a lack of understanding the lingo.

I quit taking course after 5 year, I should continue, but it is difficult for me because I speak good enough to spend some time in Russia and not enough to have a fluent conversation, and there is still a lot to study and to practice to get there. Now I am on pension, and I would like to find something consistent to do, part time, in Russia; anybody has an idea?

[QUOTE=Chercheur;1925382]
A great advantage of learning Russian is that the Russians love to be loved, and for them to learn their language is a proof of love, and I can see it in my relations with the women.
[/QUOTE]Ha, ha, ha you are so right. This is like an aphrodisiac for some Russian women. However, I do admit that some of the more cynical ladies see right through the ploy. But they appreciate the effort none the less.

Jake has been visiting Russia for 20+ years. Chercheur states in his post he has been visiting Russia for at least four years and also was spending a "month" for at least 4 years in a Russian language school.

Do you (Jake and Chercheur) actually believe that you (Jake and Chercheur) are "typical" mongers to Russia?

Your typical Russian monger visits either StPb or Moscow, hits the clubs, saunas, etc that he finds on this forum or on the web, is middle class (he has a budget in Russia), middle aged or older, tries to find a cheap or reasonably priced hotel or short term rental apartment, is probably European, visits Russia for about a week, and is looking for cheap or free sex with Russian models. He also typically believes that being a western foreign male gives him vast amounts of currency in Russia, that being from the west means he's more sensitive and understanding than Russian men, and that he wouldn't have to be visiting Russia except that all the women in his own country have become bull dyke feminists.

The women he meets are almost always pros or semi-pros.

His idea of learning Russian is memorizing a few phrases from his tour guide on the plane from Paris to Moscow. Now do you actually believe that the 3 hours they invest in "learning" Russian is going to give them access to your Russian experience? You (Jake and Chercheur), when addressing typical mongers, are as venerable Shaolin masters are to peasants, and your suggestions on girl venues and practical stuff is doctrine, but advising typical mongers to "learn Russian"? If your typical monger lucks out and gets a chance to have a conversation with a "normal" Russian girl, he will be much better off playing the "practice English with me I'm a native speaker or good English speaker and I'm a sensitive male and a good listener and all I ask is you wear a short skirt" card, if indeed he can speak English well and can at least fake the sensitivity. Every single young Russian who aspires to a business career is trying to learn English these days, and your peasant monger can get a foot in the door with a "normal" Russian girl during the 7 days he's in Russia just by inviting her to practice her English with him.

[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1925785]
Do you (Jake and Chercheur) actually believe that you (Jake and Chercheur) are "typical" mongers to Russia?
[/QUOTE]I can't speak for Chercheur, but I certainly HOPE we are not the typical mongers to Russia. It's clear that I (we) have struck a nerve with you when it comes to the Russian language. I am not suggesting that the new monger to Russia invest a ton of time learning the language. However, whatever time he DOES invest in learning a little "survival Russian" is time well spent. I know several guys who have lived in Russia for nearly 20 years and STILL don't speak a word of Russian. Yet, they seem to have no trouble finding girlfriends. What ever works for you, works for you. For me, learning Russian has worked wonders for my sex life in Russia. Is it absolutely necessary? No, of course not. It's merely opens a dimension of options and experiences that are not available to those who don't have a working knowledge of the language. That's it.

By the way, I have only been visiting Russia for 10 years. Not 20 as you stated.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1926100] It's merely opens a dimension of options and experiences that are not available to those who don't have a working knowledge of the language. That's it.[/QUOTE]I could not say better.

I have been mongering in South-East Asia when I was in my twenties and early thirties, that was the right place and the right time for me.

Now I monger in Brazil in the winter time and in Russia in the summer time; Rio is a very nice and fun place to live in in January, but, IMHO, not come close to Moscow in term of quality of the women for beauty, education (not sure what is the exact meaning in English, but all possible meanings are included) and sexual appetite.

Come to Russia, start with the English speaking women, and then you will see.

But many of the English speaking women I have met, do travel abroad, so don't expect too much magic from your speaking English, those days are gone for good.

For the guys that come to Moscow only for sex reasons, and stay for a week or two, speak no Russian, you're bloody too late. 15 years too late. Sure you can spend hours a day, everyday for weeks prior to coming to Moscow trying to arrange for paid sex. But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

I assume the reason that guys still come because they still have the illusion of finding a mail order bride type of girl that gets her pussy all wet when seeing a foreign man. I have bad news for you. You're bloody too late. My advice for you guys is to stay home, don't bother coming to Moscow or Russia. But if you're stubborn and insisting to come and see the real situation with your own eyes, then my advice is to go to Night Flight and pick up a copy of Moscow Times. Yes it's in bloody English. Go to the last page. There are a couple escort agency ads.

Yes yes I know you can also go to dance clubs to meet girls. But if you can pull it off, you should be able to pull it off back home, too. Might actually be easier and cheaper.

Nobody likes to accept the reality that pussies no longer grow on trees in Russia. But we can't turn back the clock. Russia has moved on, and so should us. If one insist to something about it, then I suggest to switch to drive a more fuel efficient car back home, turn the thermostat a few degrees lower in winter. Then we might have a slight chance to turn back the clock a bit.

Or you can try to learn Russian.

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[QUOTE=Chercheur;1925382]IMHO I don't think you can learn a language which is as different as the Russian language just by speaking; the grammatical is specific, the words are not similar, and the way to talk is different.

On the opposite Portuguese is a Latin language and as a French speaker, I am leaning it just by speaking and reading a school book, 70% of the words are similar.

I start learning Russian at 50 by spending one month every year in a language school in Russia.

On the second year I could meet with only Russian speaking women, and maybe on the fourth year I could take the appointment by phone.

A great advantage of learning Russian is that the Russians love to be loved, and for them to learn their language is a proof of love, and I can see it in my relations with the women.

It is still sometimes difficult to find the Dom, the korpus and the Podvest, but that is not only due to a lack of understanding the lingo.

I quit taking course after 5 year, I should continue, but it is difficult for me because I speak good enough to spend some time in Russia and not enough to have a fluent conversation, and there is still a lot to study and to practice to get there. Now I am on pension, and I would like to find something consistent to do, part time, in Russia; anybody has an idea?[/QUOTE]BTW: it's "podezd" not "podvest".

Dom, Korpus and "podvest" can all be found pretty easily on google maps these days. In the old days we used to have to lug around the "Atlas Moskvi".

Not sure why my previous message was treated as "private", while it was not private at all since it wasn't directed to the specific user (though was a reply to one) but to everyone on the thread. My point was, if [I]anyone[/I] on the forum wants my assistance as Russian speaker, he can (respectfully to forum rules) pm me. Information of interest to all readers on this thread, I guess.

[QUOTE=OblikoMoralee;1927054]Not sure why my previous message was treated as "private", while it was not private at all since it wasn't directed to the specific user (though was a reply to one) but to everyone on the thread. My point was, if [I]anyone[/I] on the forum wants my assistance as Russian speaker, he can (respectfully to forum rules) pm me. Information of interest to all readers on this thread, I guess.[/QUOTE]Obliko,

We can't PM you. I imagine you are not a paying member? I would love to get more information and help from you.

[QUOTE=JonathanPine;1926410]For the guys that come to Moscow only for sex reasons, and stay for a week or two, speak no Russian, you're bloody too late. 15 years too late. Sure you can spend hours a day, everyday for weeks prior to coming to Moscow trying to arrange for paid sex. But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

I assume the reason that guys still come because they still have the illusion of finding a mail order bride type of girl that gets her pussy all wet when seeing a foreign man. I have bad news for you. You're bloody too late. My advice for you guys is to stay home, don't bother coming to Moscow or Russia. But if you're stubborn and insisting to come and see the real situation with your own eyes, then my advice is to go to Night Flight and pick up a copy of Moscow Times. Yes it's in bloody English. Go to the last page. There are a couple escort agency ads.

Yes yes I know you can also go to dance clubs to meet girls. But if you can pull it off, you should be able to pull it off back home, too. Might actually be easier and cheaper.

Nobody likes to accept the reality that pussies no longer grow on trees in Russia. But we can't turn back the clock. Russia has moved on, and so should us. If one insist to something about it, then I suggest to switch to drive a more fuel efficient car back home, turn the thermostat a few degrees lower in winter. Then we might have a slight chance to turn back the clock a bit.

Or you can try to learn Russian.[/QUOTE]I think its the most accurate current description of Moscow mongering scene. This post should be considered similar to double espresso in the morning.

[QUOTE=JonathanPine;1926410]For the guys that come to Moscow only for sex reasons, and stay for a week or two, speak no Russian, you're bloody too late. 15 years too late. Sure you can spend hours a day, everyday for weeks prior to coming to Moscow trying to arrange for paid sex. But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

I assume the reason that guys still come because they still have the illusion of finding a mail order bride type of girl that gets her pussy all wet when seeing a foreign man. I have bad news for you. You're bloody too late. My advice for you guys is to stay home, don't bother coming to Moscow or Russia. But if you're stubborn and insisting to come and see the real situation with your own eyes, then my advice is to go to Night Flight and pick up a copy of Moscow Times. Yes it's in bloody English. Go to the last page. There are a couple escort agency ads.

Yes yes I know you can also go to dance clubs to meet girls. But if you can pull it off, you should be able to pull it off back home, too. Might actually be easier and cheaper.

Nobody likes to accept the reality that pussies no longer grow on trees in Russia. But we can't turn back the clock. Russia has moved on, and so should us. If one insist to something about it, then I suggest to switch to drive a more fuel efficient car back home, turn the thermostat a few degrees lower in winter. Then we might have a slight chance to turn back the clock a bit.

Or you can try to learn Russian.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 100%.

[QUOTE=OblikoMoralee;1927054]Not sure why my previous message was treated as "private", while it was not private at all since it wasn't directed to the specific user (though was a reply to one) but to everyone on the thread. My point was, if [I]anyone[/I] on the forum wants my assistance as Russian speaker, he can (respectfully to forum rules) pm me. Information of interest to all readers on this thread, I guess.[/QUOTE]Hi,

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[QUOTE=JonathanPine;1926410] But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

[/QUOTE]In my last trip to Germany I went to a Puff, there I was talking to a Romanian hooker about Germany and Russia during one break between the act, and she said they used to have a Russian girl in that Puff, but she left to a better place (upgrading) a FKK flat rate club in Bavaria, whatever it might be. Well anyway she said local German and Romenian WGs don't always get along with some Russians because they seem to be more popular among German mongers. Once in Cologne I was in another Puff and I had a very young blond Russian student, oh man I can tell you, she did everything I wanted, and she seemed to be a newbie according to the way she behaved, you could feel that odor of fresh meat. I went to the same place again after 1 year. But she was not working there anymore and the Puffmutti was angry, because I left the place without ordering any of the other girls. She probably got upgraded too, or married a German Hartzler)))

[QUOTE=WingForwing;1932456]In my last trip to Germany I went to a Puff, there I was talking to a Romanian hooker about Germany and Russia during one break between the act, and she said they used to have a Russian girl in that Puff, but she left to a better place (upgrading) a FKK flat rate club in Bavaria, whatever it might be. Well anyway she said local German and Romenian WGs don't always get along with some Russians because they seem to be more popular among German mongers. Once in Cologne I was in another Puff and I had a very young blond Russian student, oh man I can tell you, she did everything I wanted, and she seemed to be a newbie according to the way she behaved, you could feel that odor of fresh meat. I went to the same place again after 1 year. But she was not working there anymore and the Puffmutti was angry, because I left the place without ordering any of the other girls. She probably got upgraded too, or married a German Hartzler)))[/QUOTE]Ah yes, once you are spoiled by Russian fresh meat, it is hard to be satisfied by anything else. September in Moscow (and Kiev) is magical because there is always a fresh crop of students from the provinces.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1933380]Ah yes, once you are spoiled by Russian fresh meat, it is hard to be satisfied by anything else. September in Moscow (and Kiev) is magical because there is always a fresh crop of students from the provinces.[/QUOTE]Hi Jake and all,

Talking about students. Where are these days the places and cafes in Moscow where you can meet the crop of students? Any hints?

Cheers,

Liabatyd14

[QUOTE=Liabatyd14;1935536]Hi Jake and all,

Talking about students. Where are these days the places and cafes in Moscow where you can meet the crop of students? Any hints?

Cheers,

Liabatyd14[/QUOTE]If you have spent any time at all reading this forum, you would have learned that one of the best student hang outs (for our purposes) in Moscow is Papas Place located at Nikolskaya St, 10.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1936158]If you have spent any time at all reading this forum, you would have learned that one of the best student hang outs (for our purposes) in Moscow is Papas Place located at Nikolskaya St, 10.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Did not know this was still actual. Good to know.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1926100]I can't speak for Chercheur, but I certainly HOPE we are not the typical mongers to Russia. It's clear that I (we) have struck a nerve with you when it comes to the Russian language. I am not suggesting that the new monger to Russia invest a ton of time learning the language. However, whatever time he DOES invest in learning a little "survival Russian" is time well spent. I know several guys who have lived in Russia for nearly 20 years and STILL don't speak a word of Russian. Yet, they seem to have no trouble finding girlfriends. What ever works for you, works for you. For me, learning Russian has worked wonders for my sex life in Russia. Is it absolutely necessary? No, of course not. It's merely opens a dimension of options and experiences that are not available to those who don't have a working knowledge of the language. That's it.

By the way, I have only been visiting Russia for 10 years. Not 20 as you stated.[/QUOTE]IMHO "speaking russian" in mongering is just an "urban legend", a myth. Either you LIVE in Russia at least for some months and it is obviously helpful.

But as a tourist (or a monger) it is not. You just need "survival russian" (asking directions, reading signs of Metro stations, understanding menus in restaurants etc).

As for communication with average russian women, if they speak only a little your language, let them talk! You are not here to practice your (fresh) russian, but to show that you like to hear this woman speaking even bad your language. It helps a lot to put her in your bed!

Anyway if you can not have (spontaneously) a long discussion with your woman in russian or in your language, you save time and efforts! What other things can you do both together?

And in the meantime, while we discuss about fakettes or not fakettes, learning Russian or not learning Russian.

The real Miss Moscow is offering escort services in Dubai, in perfect English ha ha. This world is unfair)

[QUOTE=WingForwing;1937631]And in the meantime, while we discuss about fakettes or not fakettes, learning Russian or not learning Russian.

The real Miss Moscow is offering escort services in Dubai, in perfect English ha ha. This world is unfair)[/QUOTE]Absolutely true man: There is so much Russian pussy in Dubai that it outnumbers all other WGs and lets say all together is equal to Russian women in DXB.

Such a true anecdote.

Cheers.

Spoiler alert. Don't bother to read any further as there was no sessions to report. Only disappointments from a visit to Penthouse and Vanilia Massage (Arbat).

I had convinced myself that I was just going to hang out in my hotel room after long couple of days but decided, wrongly, that I should check out Penthouse as I was close by and then maybe walk over to Vanilia to get a nice massage. Well, I did make it to both but if I had to do over again, I would have stayed in and saved myself 3000 rub and a near mugging.

So, let's see as briefly as possible.

- Took a taxi from the Radisson Slavaskya to Penthouse as it was raining. Taxi driver ripped me off by charging 900 rub for a 5 min ride. Strike 1.

- Entered the Penthouse club and had to pay 2000 rub cover. Read the cover was 1000 rub and said so but the girl insisted 2000 rub. Perhaps my info is old. Anyways, about 12 guys and about 20 girls. Some definite hotties in there. I sat at the bar and asked to get a drink at which point the bar tender said "One second" and never came back. I had a nice looking blonde come up to me and did the usual, where are you from, etc. Then hit me with a "let's go to room and play". I asked what the cost was and she said 10000 rub for her and 5000 rub for the house for 1 hour. WOW! No thanks! At this point, I decided I didn't want to stick around. The vibe of the club was not good for me so I decided to leave. At the exit the security guys who patted me down asked "Tip for security". Uh. No! - Strike 2.

- Checked Google Maps and Vanilia was a short walk away and walked over there. Well, there were a line of 5 guys waiting and I decided to head back to the hotel. I was in a bummed out mood and decided to walk. It was now 2 am in the morning but New Arbat St is nicely lit. I was almost back to the hotel when two Russian guys were walking the opposite direction of me and one of them decided to grab my arm and said somethin in Russian and I pushed him away and quickly sprinted to the hotel. Luckily they didn't follow. Strike 3 and 4 . So I am out already per baseball parlance.

Bottom line, compared to my first trip to Moscow and Vanilia this was a huge disappointment. I think fun can still be had in Moscow. I chalk this up to an off night.

[QUOTE=FredZee;1938348]Spoiler alert. Don't bother to read any further as there was no sessions to report. Only disappointments from a visit to Penthouse and Vanilia Massage (Arbat).[/QUOTE]Man, I am really sorry to hear about your bad experience. Security tip? WTF? Never heard of such a thing. That and the near mugging indicate to me that the economic situation may have worsened to the point where people are trying stupid shit. I assure you, this sort of thing is not typical. I think you got it right; you had a bad night. Hope you have better luck next time.

When being in Moscow I usually check the local escort directories such as [URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/[/URL] , [URL]http://otsos2.com/[/URL], [URL]http://devochki10.com/[/URL] and [URL]http://msk-prostitutok.net/[/URL].

Usually these sites are a hit or a miss. I usually do not trust the too glamorous studio pictures but give it a try with ladies who post more natural photos or even selfies. I also enjoy the video clips you can find in many profiles, which also increase the chance the lady you are going to meet is really the one who uploaded the profile.

I also have good experiences with finding escorts on some international escort directories such as renowned sits City of Love and Punterlink. The advantage is that girls speak often better English than the ones you will find only through the local directories. Downside is that often agencies post fake photos on such international directory sites. I had a very memorable date with a lady of the agency I found here: [URL]http://www.slavic-companions.com/international-erotic-services-nightlife/russia/moscow-escorts-call-girls/young-and-pretty[/URL] I met actually the girl of the pics: Angela. She was recommended by the agency operator (who was very kind and patient with me) because she speaks fair English and seem to be willing to offer what I was looking for: a genuine GFE with deep French kissing and oral without. She happened to be a lovely young doll, similar as in the pictures with a slim body an angelic eyes. She is very active and playful in bed with only a few limits such as CIM. I will not easily forget the great natural blowjob and 69 session with her. If all the girls of this agency will deliver the same level of service, then this agency deserves a place in the bookmarks of the frequent Moscow traveler.

I am looking to visit a strip club. When I search strip club Moscow, it appears [URL]http://goldengirls.ru[/URL]. Anyone been to this club? Any comment?

[QUOTE=Slavicgourmet;1936749]IMHO "speaking russian" in mongering is just an "urban legend", a myth. Either you LIVE in Russia at least for some months and it is obviously helpful.

But as a tourist (or a monger) it is not. You just need "survival russian" (asking directions, reading signs of Metro stations, understanding menus in restaurants etc).

As for communication with average russian women, if they speak only a little your language, let them talk! You are not here to practice your (fresh) russian, but to show that you like to hear this woman speaking even bad your language. It helps a lot to put her in your bed!

Anyway if you can not have (spontaneously) a long discussion with your woman in russian or in your language, you save time and efforts! What other things can you do both together?[/QUOTE]I guess I am the exception, but over the years, I managed to learn enough Russian for mongering purposes, and have spent time in provincial cities where no one speaks English.

I went to club Angel last night. The entrance fee is 2000 ruble. Drinks are in reasonable price. Tips for a dance is various few hundreds. Private dance costs 2000 ruble at one song's time in a room. Since it is Monday night, not many man inside and around 20 gals. Some single man sitting a sofa who can speak Russian gets a value deal, min charge 3000 a sofa, maybe it's weekday, most of the time two gals sitting around and stay long time drinking and chatting with the guy. Overall, a fairly good experience.

[QUOTE=RainMan8;1941724]I am looking to visit a strip club. When I search strip club Moscow, it appears [URL]http://goldengirls.ru[/URL]. Anyone been to this club? Any comment?[/QUOTE]Yes. It's ok. I believe it's located at the old Golden Palace casino. Nothing special. I prefer Angels / The Loft / Aurora 911 / Penthouse Club. Better girls, better on site facilities.

Hi,

Anybody experience with the following girls? I am on my way to Moscow.

Marina.

[URL]http://www.mamba.ru/mb1307288305[/URL]

Ekaterina:

[URL]http://www.mamba.ru/mb1491736526[/URL]

Thanks for help.

Hi,

Why on [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL], there are many Masseuses that charge 29 $ for 1 hour and 99 $ for 2 hours? What is the logic?

Shall I avoid those?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Rankine;1942989]Hi,

Why on [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL], there are many Masseuses that charge 29 $ for 1 hour and 99 $ for 2 hours? What is the logic?

Shall I avoid those?

Thanks![/QUOTE]You're asking about logic?

In Russia?

[QUOTE=JohnKen;1890674]I found what I want with Diana (found on the first page of Rusdosug). She is exactly as her pictures (this does not happen so often!) and is all I wanted. We did everything (no anal, but I put my finger in her ass while eating her pussy, very nice).

It was a pretty good GFE (a lot of deep kisses and licking and variety in the sexual activities). Because of Vodka I was very long to come, but the girl never complained. Over the 2 hours I came only once and she did her best to make me come a second time with no success. Actually she took the lead after the first shot to get be back to business, she could have left. I fucked her then in every position until I really had to crush in my bed. She almost apologized for not making me come a second time.

Tonight I plan on Anya, but she is not so responsive on Whatsapp, so we'll see how it turns out!

Oh, I forgot to mention that Diana was really cheap. 110 (no extra)! That's the cost of a massage for 2 hours of unlimited sex.[/QUOTE]Any more insight about Diana? Did someone had her with her red hair girlfriend for a threesome? Does she do anything without condom?

Hi,

Around middle November I will land early morning in SVO.

I should be ready around 5 AM in airport or 5.40 in Belorusskaya station.

9 AM I have a meeting.

Any suggestion about how to spend 2 hours of fun?

Thanks mates.

[QUOTE=MinoMancini;1945444]Hi,

Around middle November I will land early morning in SVO.

I should be ready around 5 AM in airport or 5.40 in Belorusskaya station.

9 AM I have a meeting.

Any suggestion about how to spend 2 hours of fun?

Thanks mates.[/QUOTE]There are many massage places right near Beloyusskaya station.

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Any reports on Virgin Club in Moscow? They seem to have opened a second club, so it must be good? I really want to go now, since visiting their webpage. Seems like they have a lot of hot dancers.

Guys can anyone here point out any good resources for mature women BTW 50-65 yrs old. I'm really into big old ladies but not sure how to go about finding them in Moscow & St. Petersburg for my upcoming trip. I have shortlisted few profiles at rusdosug, otsos2 all ranging between 2 k-3 k rub, but not sure how genuine those profiles are, moreover I want to play safe specially when I'm visiting an unknown apartment. So verified listing is something I'm looking for.

Can someone recommend an massage place near SVO?

[QUOTE=CumerBareback;1892035]I met last week again with Tanya ([URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi27612-1.htm[/URL]). She is really a nice woman and it is a pleasure to talk with her as well. Sex was very passioante and as last time it was possible without rubber. If you treat her like a lady it should be no problem. She told me that she does not mind to have unprotected sex with a nice man. Be nice to her.[/QUOTE]Tried Tanya a couple of weeks ago. Not really my type, a little to old. Guess you have to add another 6 -8 years on top of the advertising, but can confirm CummerBareback. She is very passionate and a friendly woman. Paid 150 $ for an hour with a massage.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1948416]Guys can anyone here point out any good resources for mature women BTW 50-65 yrs old. I'm really into big old ladies but not sure how to go about finding them in Moscow & St. Petersburg for my upcoming trip. I have shortlisted few profiles at rusdosug, otsos2 all ranging between 2 k-3 k rub, but not sure how genuine those profiles are, moreover I want to play safe specially when I'm visiting an unknown apartment. So verified listing is something I'm looking for.[/QUOTE]Hi Andy7.

I share your interest in mature women. Russia should be the perfect place for this, but I seem to always get distracted by the younger ones. I would be glad to hear if you have any luck. I was came across brothel in Moscow by chance where there were only mature ladies, something like 32-55 years old. Unfortunately I could never find it again, but something like that would be perfect because it is so hit and miss following up one ad at a time.

Cucumber.

[QUOTE=Gepard32;1950267]Tried Tanya a couple of weeks ago. Not really my type, a little to old. Guess you have to add another 6 -8 years on top of the advertising, but can confirm CummerBareback. She is very passionate and a friendly woman. Paid 150 $ for an hour with a massage.[/QUOTE]Agree! I met you some days ago again and it seems that she is a bit older. It is nor a problem for me since I sometimes like mature ladies with a sexy body. I just saw she changed also her age to 38. First time I met her she was still 32. Booked her for a night and it was again very good. I always have the feeling she enjoyed sex and also to get my juice inside her. If anyone likes older ladies, she is strongly recommended.

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Well I've heard about this place but whoa. I'm a are'and't guy and this is the best I've ever had. $100 AU for an hour with a 25 yo, model looks. 10/10 massage, 10/10 tug. Shower before and after, full touching. If you are in Moscow and you want to relax, go here! Unfortunately I've got to go to st Petersburg tomorrow so can't go back. But I must find a similar place there. Suggestions welcome.

[QUOTE=DeeDeeRamone;1958011]Well I've heard about this place but whoa. I'm a are'and't guy and this is the best I've ever had. $100 AU for an hour with a 25 yo, model looks. 10/10 massage, 10/10 tug. Shower before and after, full touching. If you are in Moscow and you want to relax, go here! Unfortunately I've got to go to st Petersburg tomorrow so can't go back. But I must find a similar place there. Suggestions welcome.[/QUOTE]Yes, guys, very good location, all the advice, 10 of 10.

Met again with Tanya last week. Still one of my favorite mature ladies in Moscow. We agreed on 350 Euro for the night; it seems she is also in crisis mode. I met her at 20:00 at the lobby of my hotel and took her to my room. She was looking very sexy. A dress with stockings. I asked her to wear it. Since we knew each other, we had sex right when entering my room. Very good performance and I still have the feeling that she likes a lot when getting cum inside her pussy. Later we had a rest, spoke a bit and had a drink. Later we had an other round where she allowed me to cum in her mouth. Still a 10 out of 10 if you like maturate ladies. If you ask for bareback, just be polite. It is at her discretion.

Looking for advice on where to go for two nights in Moscow? Definitely will check out night flight, trying to decide which strip clubs to try between aurora 911, Penthouse club, Rasputin, Virgins, loft or golden girls. I'm OK with paying a little more if the girls are amazingly beautiful. Any advice? What is the usual rates in rubles these days?

[QUOTE=LoverOfTravel;1965757]Looking for advice on where to go for two nights in Moscow? Definitely will check out night flight, trying to decide which strip clubs to try between aurora 911, Penthouse club, Rasputin, Virgins, loft or golden girls. I'm OK with paying a little more if the girls are amazingly beautiful. Any advice? What is the usual rates in rubles these days?[/QUOTE]Looks like you read the forum. Good man. I think you have all of the info you need for two nights in Moscow. The going rate in NF is anywhere from 12,000 to 20,000 rubles. About the same for on-site sex in Angels. PH is a little more because of the goofy hotel room arrangement.

I met Ellena several days ago, it was already my second time I saw her and I really enjoyed it again. She has it all. A great personality, beauty and body, matched by an obvious love of sex. We agreed on 400 euro for 5 hours of eating out and sex at her place. She looked very sexy wearing a dress with stockings and boots. It was an incredible experience and she certainly knows how to turn a guy on. She is an interesting person and has a university degree in history which was a nice bonus as she told me interesting details about Russian history and famous people. She also knows a lot about Moscow as from her own words she worked as a guide when a student.

After dinner, we went to her place, which is a great location in the center and very cozy and good. I asked Ellena to bring her Victoria Secret lingerie (which she wears in several of her photos). Coming out of the shower I was greeted by her wearing stockings and suspender and we started with lots of touching all over before moving to the bedroom. After an extended and extremely deep throat, taking me to the edge on several occasions, I had a lovely time licking her pussy, it tasted so sweet and tight and was astonished when she squirted, then we moved to sex and I was amazed when she came (and squirted) again almost as soon as I entered her. I find it hard to believe but she came and squirted three times more before I also came. Ellena genuinely loves sex and if she is relaxed and enjoying your company, I am sure you will have an equally fantastic experience. She has a great body, smooth and soft, as for her age, she is 32 as she confessed, a bit older that on her site, but looks amazing.

Her web-site where I found her: [URL]vipelegantescort.com[/URL].

Just arrived in Moscow and in my hotel, there are several flyers for clubs, are any of these good for a monger? Or are they just places to pay for high-priced drinks and get nothing else?

Provocateur.

Night Flight.

Virgins.

Burlesque.

LE Rouge.

[QUOTE=DocInHeat;1967259]Just arrived in Moscow and in my hotel, there are several flyers for clubs, are any of these good for a monger? Or are they just places to pay for high-priced drinks and get nothing else?

Provocateur. -

Night Flight.

Virgins.

Burlesque.

LE Rouge.[/QUOTE]Night Flight is the original. The rest are upstarts. Might be good but I have not tried them.

If you have dinner in the restaurant, entrance to the club is complimentary. Otherwise, entry is about $50.

If you go for dinner, don't arrive before 9:30 PM. If you are just going straight to the club, don't arrive before 11:00 PM.

Have fun.

My first night free from work and went with a friend to Night Flight at 2230. Had free coupon from hotel, otherwise would've been 1800 rubles with a free drink.

Only one other guy there in the whole place and passed a line of women sitting, many of whom quickly stood in front of us after we sat down and 2 of the oldest women soon sat down.

Had 2 drinks for 1000 rubles and soon was offered time at our hotel for $500. I almost started laughing, but didn't want to be too rude. She offered a discount, but I was definitely not interested in her and didn't want to even begin the hassle of negotiations at those prices. Ended up leaving and went to a regular bar. Will try elsewhere soon.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1967418]Night Flight is the original. The rest are upstarts. Might be good but I have not tried them.

If you have dinner in the restaurant, entrance to the club is complimentary. Otherwise, entry is about $50.

If you go for dinner, don't arrive before 9:30 PM. If you are just going straight to the club, don't arrive before 11:00 PM.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]

Also, as soon as one girl got up another quickly took her place and I should note that the last girl that I spoke with was a Ukarainian named Illyana, who was tall and thin and definitely doable. But my friend wanted to move on, so I didn't even start talking prices with her.

[QUOTE=DocInHeat;1967912]My first night free from work and went with a friend to Night Flight at 2230. Had free coupon from hotel, otherwise would've been 1800 rubles with a free drink.

Only one other guy there in the whole place and passed a line of women sitting, many of whom quickly stood in front of us after we sat down and 2 of the oldest women soon sat down.

Had 2 drinks for 1000 rubles and soon was offered time at our hotel for $500. I almost started laughing, but didn't want to be too rude. She offered a discount, but I was definitely not interested in her and didn't want to even begin the hassle of negotiations at those prices. Ended up leaving and went to a regular bar. Will try elsewhere soon.[/QUOTE]

I will be in Moscow on a Saturday and Sunday night which night should I try night flight and which night is the strip club best to attend. Also any recommendations for the best strip club.

[QUOTE=LoverOfTravel;1968036]I will be in Moscow on a Saturday and Sunday night which night should I try night flight and which night is the strip club best to attend. Also any recommendations for the best strip club.[/QUOTE]Friday and Saturday are dead at Night Flight. Sunday is better but only a little in terms of selection. As for strip clubs, any night is good. My personal favorites are Angels and Aurora 911.

[QUOTE=DocInHeat;1967912]Had 2 drinks for 1000 rubles and soon was offered time at our hotel for $500. I almost started laughing, but didn't want to be too rude. [/QUOTE]That sucks. One would have hoped that they were more competitive. Business can't be THAT good. I forgot to mention that in these places, the moment the negotiation start in dollars, you might as well walk away. ALWAYS quote rubles. The going rate in Moscow for a tier one fuck these days is 15,000 rubles ($230). Tell the girls that you will pay 12,000 rubles maximum and say no more. Even if she walks away, word will spread quickly amongst those vipers and one will be sure to discuss it with you further.

This is an excellent idea!

We were pegged as Americans as soon as we walked in speaking english to the door people and I think that's what got them thinking they could rip us off. That's why we have ISG!

[QUOTE=Jake993;1968353]That sucks. One would have hoped that they were more competitive. Business can't be THAT good. I forgot to mention that in these places, the moment the negotiation start in dollars, you might as well walk away. ALWAYS quote rubles. The going rate in Moscow for a tier one fuck these days is 15,000 rubles ($230). Tell the girls that you will pay 12,000 rubles maximum and say no more. Even if she walks away, word will spread quickly amongst those vipers and one will be sure to discuss it with you further.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jake993;1968353]That sucks. One would have hoped that they were more competitive. Business can't be THAT good. I forgot to mention that in these places, the moment the negotiation start in dollars, you might as well walk away. ALWAYS quote rubles. The going rate in Moscow for a tier one fuck these days is 15,000 rubles ($230). Tell the girls that you will pay 12,000 rubles maximum and say no more. Even if she walks away, word will spread quickly amongst those vipers and one will be sure to discuss it with you further.[/QUOTE]Are these rates for an hour or for night?

Generally an hour

[QUOTE=WanderTheWorld;1968708]Are these rates for an hour or for night?[/QUOTE].

If you want to do take out, then Night Flight. If eat in, do a strip club!

[QUOTE=Jake993;1968347]Friday and Saturday are dead at Night Flight. Sunday is better but only a little in terms of selection. As for strip clubs, any night is good. My personal favorites are Angels and Aurora 911.[/QUOTE]

After the Night Flight fiasco, decided to try a strip club the next free night and it was great. At least 50 women, all of them 7 to 9. 75 (to me 10 is perfection and there is no such thing in real life!

About a quarter of the women are waitresses, who will do lap dances if you want, but I don't think they will go into a room with you, the rest will. Private lap dance is 2000 rubles, going into a room for an hour will cost 10,000 rubles for the girl and 5000 rubles for the room rental. I took Illyara, a gorgeous blonde with spectacular breasts. She was great, sexy and pretty eager to please and would've been fine with 2 shots, but given that it was 3:30 am, I only had one in me The only small problems were everything was covered and she didn't speak any english whatsoever. I still left happy, as did my 2 wingmen.

Planning another trip to Moscow around late December. Will definitely go back to Vanilia. And fulfill some of my other desires which I didn't do in my last trip in the summer, like taking a hot girl from NF across the street to standard hotel and make love in those amazing beds. I also want to try Aurora 911.

I remember reading somewhere that Moscow becomes a ghost town during new year, as people move away to their hometowns to celebrate the holiday.

Is this true? I hope this does not affect the operations of these venues mentioned above? How is the mongering scenes in general around Dec 23-26?

I forgot to mention, that one of my business hosts brought me to the City Space Bar in the top of the Swissotel. Unfortunately, he didn't have too many guests like me were interested in getting dirty and so had just heard that there were hostesses for hire there. Unfortunately, we were there on a Tuesday, which was apparently an off night. There were definitely some business types there talking to young beautiful girls and there seemed to be someone working as the girls' manager. But when my contact asked, he was told that no one was available because it was a quiet night.

So there definitely are hostesses there, but I have no idea if you need to be connected to get service and if you can do more than talk. And I'm sure it'd be expensive.

Hi,

That is general in Russia.

But mainly the first week in Jan is national holiday so people usually go to family.

During western Christmas live is as normal.

Marty.

[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;1969038]Planning another trip to Moscow around late December. Will definitely go back to Vanilia. And fulfill some of my other desires which I didn't do in my last trip in the summer, like taking a hot girl from NF across the street to standard hotel and make love in those amazing beds. I also want to try Aurora 911.

I remember reading somewhere that Moscow becomes a ghost town during new year, as people move away to their hometowns to celebrate the holiday.

Is this true? I hope this does not affect the operations of these venues mentioned above? How is the mongering scenes in general around Dec 23-26?[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;1969038]Planning another trip to Moscow around late December. Will definitely go back to Vanilia. And fulfill some of my other desires which I didn't do in my last trip in the summer, like taking a hot girl from NF across the street to standard hotel and make love in those amazing beds. I also want to try Aurora 911.

I remember reading somewhere that Moscow becomes a ghost town during new year, as people move away to their hometowns to celebrate the holiday.

Is this true? I hope this does not affect the operations of these venues mentioned above? How is the mongering scenes in general around Dec 23-26?[/QUOTE]The Russian Orthodox church never adopted the Gregorian calendar, they are still on the Julian calendar, so Christmas and New Year in Russia are off by a couple weeks.

The Soviet government did adopt the Gregorian calendar, so New Year is celebrated on January 1st, along with the rest of the world. This is followed by the "old" Christmas on the 7th and the "old" New Year on the 14th. The 24th and 25th of December are pretty much like the 4th of July in London.

There is never a time when Moscow is a "ghost town", any more than New York, or London or Paris could be ghost towns. There are millions of people who live in Moscow and they aren't going anywhere, at least not in the dead of winter. It may be that many of the dyeffki you are hoping to meet, who moved to Moscow from the provinces for the specific purpose of fleecing the gringos, will return to Yaroslavl, or Ivanovo or Goose Khrystal to celebrate with their families.

There is an extended holiday period in early January, I believe it's about 2 weeks. But this is primarily for government offices; the Post Office will close during this time. But private businesses should still be operating.

So, as long as you don't need to mail a letter, you should be fine.

BTW--you do speak Russian, don't you?

Hello friend,

I'm coming to Moscow for the first time in January.

Is there any sex parties in Moscow like what used to be called "Lady Marmalade Parties" (LMP) / and today "The Phoenix Club" in London? These are Sex Parties that last 2 hours and plan for 6 working girls, with only single male guests to a maximum ratio of 2:1, and 3 parties every day. You can fuck with all the girls for as many times as you can, all for 160 pound.

Is there anything similar in Moscow?

Thanks.

Well, it sounds like a lot of fun, but I don't think you can find such venues in Russia because it would be against the existing Russia Law against prostitution.

This is the reason why on this Thread the guys basically discuss more about strip clubs, which is boring for my taste.

I'd love to visit a Russian LMP (it is similar to German / French Gangbang parties or sex FlatRate parties), but no way you will find it on Russian territory.

[QUOTE=TheLover2017;1971015]Hello friend,

I'm coming to Moscow for the first time in January.

Is there any sex parties in Moscow like what used to be called "Lady Marmalade Parties" (LMP) / and today "The Phoenix Club" in London? These are Sex Parties that last 2 hours and plan for 6 working girls, with only single male guests to a maximum ratio of 2:1, and 3 parties every day. You can fuck with all the girls for as many times as you can, all for 160 pound.

Is there anything similar in Moscow?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Event yourself if you speak good Russian, but like wingman said there will always be a risk, and to party under fear can be a big turnoff.

Hi brothers,

I am in Moscow for 4 days want to know some good erotic parlor near hotel Novotel Moscow city.

Also if anyone has good escort no.

PM me. It would great help and will reciprocate for Kazak and Moldova and Dubai area.

[QUOTE=DocInHeat;1969172]I forgot to mention, that one of my business hosts brought me to the City Space Bar in the top of the Swissotel. Unfortunately, he didn't have too many guests like me were interested in getting dirty and so had just heard that there were hostesses for hire there. Unfortunately, we were there on a Tuesday, which was apparently an off night. There were definitely some business types there talking to young beautiful girls and there seemed to be someone working as the girls' manager. But when my contact asked, he was told that no one was available because it was a quiet night.

So there definitely are hostesses there, but I have no idea if you need to be connected to get service and if you can do more than talk. And I'm sure it'd be expensive.[/QUOTE]Oh yes, those girls are available for all activities. Sorry for slow reply as I have been traveling with limited access to ISG.

[QUOTE=WingForwing;1971192]Well, it sounds like a lot of fun, but I don't think you can find such venues in Russia because it would be against the existing Russia Law against prostitution.

This is the reason why on this Thread the guys basically discuss more about strip clubs, which is boring for my taste.

I'd love to visit a Russian LMP (it is similar to German / French Gangbang parties or sex FlatRate parties), but no way you will find it on Russian territory.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the slow reply. I have been traveling and had limited access to ISG.

There are no such parties per se. However, the Russian version of this activity is "banya" or "sauna".

ALL banyas can organize girls to come in an look after your needs.

[URL]https://sauna.ru/[/URL]

Pick a banya that's close and fits your budget and have fun.

I will be back in Moscow next week.

Does anyone has a good recommendation (Escort) for me? Preferably without any taboos.

[QUOTE=MGLbadboi;1969038]Planning another trip to Moscow around late December. Will definitely go back to Vanilia. And fulfill some of my other desires which I didn't do in my last trip in the summer, like taking a hot girl from NF across the street to standard hotel and make love in those amazing beds. I also want to try Aurora 911.

I remember reading somewhere that Moscow becomes a ghost town during new year, as people move away to their hometowns to celebrate the holiday.

Is this true? I hope this does not affect the operations of these venues mentioned above? How is the mongering scenes in general around Dec 23-26?[/QUOTE]No, I been in Moscow last year in late Dec (20-28) it was no problem, don't worry about that.

Also thank you for prompt appeal to an escort agency beauty students, Janna is real very nice gall! By the way I also can recommend you one very nice girl-Diana, who I tried before Janna, last month in my trip, from first page of Rusdosug ([URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi197541.htm[/URL]), was a very nice experience with call-girl in Moscow, before I saw discussion of her person on this forum and decided her to write, for me, Korean guy, she was my first non-Asian girl, I worried a bit, but she was really good, much better than her photos, really tall and big breast, nice tattoo on back side, she really can speak good English, all service was real, blowjob without condom was fantastic, before there were doubts, confused low price, but it was true. By the way, she very friendly with Asian, speak Chinese a little, pretty nice and funny, I spend 3 hours in her company that's why can recommend! Also from Rusdosug I had nice ebony lady Merit ([URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi224075.htm[/URL]), but is different story, she was nice and no more, too hight price for her.

Hope my experience was useful and maybe help you, thanks again!

JamesKim86.

Started the night at penthouse club some beautiful girls only one ten in my books though. I like the layout of the club.

Next was the loft not as many girls but 3 tens in my books. Nice layout as well.

Next stop was angels! Not as many beautiful girls and I was not a fan of the layout inside.

Hi Friends! I am coming to attend a conference in Moscow in the last week of Feb 2017. The organisers have suggested the President Hotel (the conference would take place there) but I found the prices to be a bit steep. Can you guys suggest some hotel which is reasonably priced, not very far from President and where our activity is allowed? Thanks a lot in advance!

Visited this beautiful, kinky lady today, and thought I would share as she was incredible.

[URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi236516.htm[/URL]

She seemed a bit unfriendly on the phone but she was really nice, if a little awkward in person. Once we got down to business though she was absolutely wild, and really knows how to use her tongue stud. She's a little on the high side price wise but it was definitely worth it. Everything is included including, apparently, anal. I was enjoying her pussy so much that I didn't confirm this one.

One thing, her English is almost none existent. It never seemed like a problem though.

Hi,

A great way to find freebies or "normal" girls who are interested to meet in return for a small present is to use Russian dating websites (one in particular). Many of the girls speak English at least to that extent that a date can be set up. I can send you the info in PM.

Date & time of session: December 20th. 13:00.

Location: Vanilia Massage by Noviy Arbat street.

Name: Maya.

Nationality & Language: Russian Girl knows about 30 words in English.

Age: 20-21.

Face: 4/5.

Body: 5/5 Perfect body. 6 ft, athletic, with long legs, and a tits and ass to die for. Simply an angel from Heaven.

Skill: 5/5 Never been happier with a massage service.

Service: 10/10 Well I've heard about this place but whoa. The lineup was world class.

This service is the best I've ever had. $100 USD for 90 minutes, model looks. 10/10 massage, 10/10 tug. If you are in Moscow and you want to relax, go here!

GFE: 5/5 full touching and fondling. Playing with ass and pussy. Showers before and after.

PSE: 5/5 The sight of her pussy and asshole on your face while she was sitting on you and dancing while giving you a rub was unbelievable. I thought I was high on meth or something.

Price & Session Length: About 110 $ USD, for 90 minutes. Shower, A Legitimate massage, A body to body massage and a hand-job of a lifetime to be closed with an intimate shower.

Repeat: Most definitely.

I asked for a picture afterwards, met with a polite refusal, however when I asked for a picture with no face, she agreed. As I have said before, never been happier with a paid sex service before.

At that price, I simply cannot wait to go back to Russia.

I always wanted to try sex with Russian girl. I decided to try independent girl because I heard lot of bad reviews about agencies. My choice put to escort directory website escortnews. I found Olga without face, she has sexy body. I wrote her whatapp to send me selfie with face, she sent me to her website [URL]www.honeyolga.com[/URL]. Finally I decide to invite her in hotel. I really was surprised! She looks sexy and cute, good process. I can say, I had super experience. My recommendations!

The most dependable clubs to find pretty girls you can fuck are Aurora and Angels. For 15000 rub, they do most sexual acts too. I especially enjoy performing DATO on them, with their ass in the air and in 69 position.

Was cold to go find girl, I decided to call escort girl. My impression took [URL]classyelena.com[/URL]. When I called her, it was late, but I was lucky. She arrived to room. I had hot time, and very sensual massage. I payed 10.000 rubles for an hour, it was fantastic. I am enjoyed.

I'll be visiting Moscow in a couple of weeks with few colleagues. We're interested in trying a sauna this time. I found a website with hundreds of saunas to choose from, so that part is easily done. But does anyone have recent knowledge about the prices of the girls available? We'll likely need 4 girls for 2-3 hours. Should we be prepared for the 5000-10000 rubles / girl / hour price range when we let the sauna operator bring in the girls, or are they more expensive than normal prostitutes? I assume we pay for time, so switching who of us takes which girl for second round might be negotiable for same price?

A friend of mine speaks basic Russian, and we've experienced prostitutes, massages and brothels in St. Petersburg and Moscow before, but now it would be fun to test a sauna. Money isn't really the issue, but it would be good to know a rough estimate of price before booking the sauna so we'll bring enough cash with us.

Went to six strip clubs in two nights. Definitely would have to rank them as follows:

Loft #1 the most beautiful girls but not as many in total.

Penthouse club #2 lots of girls with a few tall beautiful blondes.

Aurora 911 #3. Layout of this club is OK. Almost as many girls as penthouse with two hotties.

Angels #4. Did not like the layout of this club. The least beautiful girls of the big 4 clubs.

Was convinced by a taxi driver to try a couple other clubs which were terrible.

Next summer I want to try egoist gold and egoist.

Love me some Russian women.

[QUOTE=Kaappo22;1985717]Money isn't really the issue, but it would be good to know a rough estimate of price before booking the sauna so we'll bring enough cash with us.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the price of sauna girls is a bit of a moving target based on the place you visit. Generally speaking, you should budget about 2000 rubles per hour per girl. This will get you basic "sauna companions" who will be good for a little slap and tickle and to sit and drink with you. You have to remember, ordering girls for the sauna does not necessarily mean that you are going to have sex with them. I know it sounds a bit goofy, but often a group of Russian guys will order up girls for the sauna for the company and to see them prance around naked and to whack them with birch branches (viniki). You have to admit that there certainly is something a little bit erotic about lying bare ass naked in the sauna being beaten by a naked woman with a birch branch.

If you want to get into more serious sex, the girls will let you know how much. And for that you probably need to be prepared to spend an additional 5,000 - 10,000 rubles depending on what you have in mind. And don't forget to offer then food and drinks. It makes them feel a little less like prostitutes and gets them in a more festive mood.

[QUOTE=Sarangdharp;1979781]Hi Friends! I am coming to attend a conference in Moscow in the last week of Feb 2017. The organisers have suggested the President Hotel (the conference would take place there) but I found the prices to be a bit steep. Can you guys suggest some hotel which is reasonably priced, not very far from President and where our activity is allowed? Thanks a lot in advance![/QUOTE]Hi!

I stayed at the President hotel last summer. Yes, the price is a little high, but the level of this hotel enough high. If you don't want to be disappointed, I don't recommend you to stay at a too cheap hotel. It will spoil your impressions about Moscow. Better to spent money on more exciting things. So, my recommendations of this hotel!

Dateline Moscow, January 17th, 2017.

President of Russian Federation Confirms Quality of Russian Prostitutes.

In a public statement made today, during a news conference with the President of Moldova, President Vladimir Putin made a clear and convincing statement regarding the quality of prostitutes in Russia. In response to a question, the President of the Russian Federation stated, "Without a doubt, they are the best in the world".

This statement was made in response to a question from the press regarding the visit of Mr. Donald Trump to Moscow and his experiences with prostitutes during his stay.

President Putin declined to speak specifically about the actions of Mr. Trump while in Moscow, however, there was some question about President Putin's controversial response with regard to whether or not he was referring to Russian prostitutes, or American politicians, but the general feeling was that President Putin was referring to Russian prostitutes.

USA President Barack Obama declined to comment.

[QUOTE=DeeDeeRamone;1958011]Well I've heard about this place but whoa. I'm a are'and't guy and this is the best I've ever had. $100 AU for an hour with a 25 yo, model looks. 10/10 massage, 10/10 tug. Shower before and after, full touching. If you are in Moscow and you want to relax, go here! Unfortunately I've got to go to st Petersburg tomorrow so can't go back. But I must find a similar place there. Suggestions welcome.[/QUOTE]There is a romantic sexy place I Liked. It's Zavist bar in St. Petersburg. There are always a bright, enchanting girls who are ready to dance a private dance for you. I felt exciting, like on the top of the wave. Drinks, snacks, girls. All for you. Awesome!

[QUOTE=EddyBeg;1988358]There is a romantic sexy place I Liked. It's Zavist bar in St. Petersburg. There are always a bright, enchanting girls who are ready to dance a private dance for you. I felt exciting, like on the top of the wave. Drinks, snacks, girls. All for you. Awesome![/QUOTE]I looks like there are 3 of them there. Is it a chain or just coincidence? And, can I have private dancers in all 3 places?

Thanks.

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[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1987686]Dateline Moscow, January 17th, 2017.

President of Russian Federation Confirms Quality of Russian Prostitutes.

In a public statement made today, during a news conference with the President of Moldova, President Vladimir Putin made a clear and convincing statement regarding the quality of prostitutes in Russia. In response to a question, the President of the Russian Federation stated, "Without a doubt, they are the best in the world".

This statement was made in response to a question from the press regarding the visit of Mr. Donald Trump to Moscow and his experiences with prostitutes during his stay.

President Putin declined to speak specifically about the actions of Mr. Trump while in Moscow, however, there was some question about President Putin's controversial response with regard to whether or not he was referring to Russian prostitutes, or American politicians, but the general feeling was that President Putin was referring to Russian prostitutes.

USA President Barack Obama declined to comment.[/QUOTE]Hahaha that was hilarious.

Hello everyone!

Will be stuck in Moscow international airport for few hours. Can anybody advise any action inside airport area. Someone mentioned massage therapy inside airport. Can experienced members please confirm. Any help is appreciated.

Hi,

Last week I have been in Moscow for a short business trip.

I contacted this girl, Diana, from Rusdosug:

[URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi212202.htm[/URL]

Everything available on her menu. Called her around 8 pm and agreed for two hours in my hotel, including pissing (me on her) and anal licking, 180 euro, unlimited shots.

She replied quickly, via whatsapp, to my enquiries, and she reached my hotel on time, at 9 pm.

The photos are real, although she is a little bit overweight compared to the photos on the website.

Willing to please, very good oral skills, long anal licking, final with a nice CIM.

Sex in any position, she offered anal as additional service for 50 euros more, but I declined.

Not a clock watcher, I did not regret.

I would repeat.

[QUOTE=EddyBeg;1987311]Hi!

I stayed at the President hotel last summer. Yes, the price is a little high, but the level of this hotel enough high. If you don't want to be disappointed, I don't recommend you to stay at a too cheap hotel. It will spoil your impressions about Moscow. Better to spent money on more exciting things. So, my recommendations of this hotel![/QUOTE]Hi Bro, thanks for your response. I agree with you and have already booked the President. Now coming to our favorite activity, are there in-house girls available in the bar or do I need to go out. What's the most reasonable route to get a girl in the room. I presume, President is a Green hotel for us?

Thanks in advance!

Gents,

As we all know most of the pics on the various website are fake, photoshopped and appear on various different portals. I will be in Moscow end of Feb and I am really interested to spent a night at the hotel with a lady.

Maybe somebody has a recent good experience he can share.

Any recommendation is welcome.

Some phone numbers respond on via text or WhatsApp. But a friend told me to be careful. The lady that will rock up is most probably not the one from the pictures you saw.

I remember similar situation a while back in Istanbul. I was lucky that night. The real lady was way more attractive than the one I saw on the escort page.

Back home after an awesome trip to Moscow.

On Friday we went to Vanilla massage at Bolshaya Molchanovka. The hostess offered us one of the VIP programs claiming it's by far their most popular choice. Price was rather high, 8000 rubles for 70 minutes. We knew that she's trying to make easy money from tourists, but since two of our group were first timers, we chose that program instead of the cheaper ones we've had there before. You can check their website or ask for English menu at the salon to see what's available and what the prices are. There were about 10 pretty girls available at 5 pm. I chose Afrodita, [URL]http://5massage.ru/photomassage/bodi-massazh2[/URL].

She had a slim body with size 1,5 breasts. Her ass was nice, large and round, and she had big lips made for sucking cock. She told me she her family background is from Greece, that explained the slightly exotic look. Massage and erotic massage were OK, she was a pleasure to watch from the big mirror on the wall. She didn't speak English at all, some of the girls chosen by us spoke a few words, some basic English.

On Saturday it was time to test the sauna like planned. We asked the girl at the hotel reception to start calling places from sauna. Ru and after a few calls she found a place that was available and reasonably priced. Meanwhile my friend had convinced the Central Asian lady working at the hotel restaurant to meet in his room after her shift. That feat was done mostly with a pen and paper since she knew about three words of English.

After a short taxi ride we arrived to the address of the sauna. It looked like your average Moscow apartment building, so after walking around it twice we called the sauna's number ourselves. Turned out the sauna was operating in the basement of a small restaurant. There was a pool, jacuzzi, huge Turkish bath with a massage table, common room and two bedrooms. There was a button on the wall that we could use to call the girl working at the restaurant downstairs. After some drinks, food, kaljan (shisha), sauna and socializing with friends it was time to call the waitress downstairs again and ask for girls. She told that the price is 10 000 rubles for a girl for two hours. We decided to order four girls.

About an hour later two women in their forties appeared, a blonde and a black haired. They wanted money, we payed the agreed price. They were happy and outgoing, but hardly spoke any English. Luckily they were true professionals, and knew how to use their cellphones to translate the conversation. It didn't take long until my friend disappeared with the blonde. Shortly later the black haired led me to a bedroom, but my friend and the blonde were busy there so we went to the toilet for suck and fuck. After that we returned back to the common room for more drinks and partying.

The blonde started talking to me, so I went over and opened her towel to see her boobs and pussy. We went to sauna, and she gave me a decent massage. We went back to the common room, and three more girls, this time in their twenties, appeared. They looked nice, so we decided to keep them all and have five girls instead of four. I took a tall, sexy looking redhead to the bedroom, but it was reserved again. I suggested we go to the toilet for sex, but she knew that there's the second bedroom as well. So we went there, she gave a nice BBBJ and we had sex.

The restaurant was closing by now, so we had to dress up and head out. The elder pros had already left after their two hours expired, but the 3 stayed and partied with us until closing time. The price for sauna was 2000 rubles an hour, but the drinks, food and kaljan drove the price much higher. All the prices could be seen in the restaurant menu that we had downstairs, so no surprises.

I had moved on to the next girl, a tall skinny black haired girl. I played with her breasts and fingered her while we were waiting on stairs to get out. She told me that she likes strangling, is a lesbian and would love to see her friends being fucked. I'm not quite sure if strangling is my thing, but had she spoken up an hour earlier I could have filled at least two of her wishes. One of the girls decided to leave, an old Lada came to pick her up. The red haired I fucked earlier and my new girl decided to join us to our hotel. The girls emptied my friend's minibar while I went back in a taxi to get the rest of our group. After we all finally got there it was getting pretty late. The girl I was fooling around with wanted 6000 rubles for two more hours. I was getting tired and both the girl and I were pretty wasted, so I instead offered her 6 000 for the whole night which would be mostly sleeping and an early wake up so I can catch my plane. She had to make a phone call, but didn't get a permission to agree to my offer from the person on the other end. I played a little more with her naked body, and off to the night she went.

Total damages for the night for our group besides a lost phone, watch and pants are murky, cloudy and unknown, but we all think it was well worth for whatever we paid. We headed home happy but tired.

Yandex taxi was great for getting around, we knew the price beforehand and no need to communicate with the driver.

Last time I was in Moscow was about a year ago, so I thought I would check out a couple of clubs before I leave, first club I went was Angels, the choice of girls was OK and one in particular caught my eye, she gave a very GFE and was great.

However more to the point prices have gone up since my last visit, entrance now seems to be 2,000 roubles and room rent 6,000 a year ago entrance was 1,500 and room rate for an hour was 5,000, with the British pound being weaker and the British being poorer after Brexit, an hour of pleasure is now pretty expensive.

The girls still charge 10,000 for 1 hour so at least they have not raised their prices.

To add to that the cost of a drink is around 400 and add to that a few tips to the girls, and the total bill soon adds up to around almost £300.

Last night I tried Loft as I heard good things about the place, the club is bigger than Angels and I guess there were probably more girls to chose although the quality was no different from that at Angels, only one girl stood out from the lot, had the perfect body but she the wrong attitude it certainly was not the GFE experience I had at aurora.

Just a quick question on the African ladies on Dosug, Any experience with these ladies? Can it be worth while or is it a rip off.

I am in good old Moscow next week and was thinking of trying.

[QUOTE=Goei1163;2008305]Just a quick question on the African ladies on Dosug, Any experience with these ladies? Can it be worth while or is it a rip off.

I am in good old Moscow next week and was thinking of trying.[/QUOTE]Please report back what you find. I am considering the same in May when I return.

[QUOTE=Meesee;2008434]Please report back what you find. I am considering the same in May when I return.[/QUOTE]For the most part, the African ladies speak good English in Moscow. Most of the ones I have encountered are from Uganda, Nigeria, Mali, and a handful of sub-Saharan African countries. Unlike girls from Dubai, they tend NOT to be from African Muslim countries where "female circumcision" is practiced. In my opinion this is good as girls who are "cut" tend not to find sex as enjoyable.

The handful of sexual experiences I have had with black girls in Moscow have all been "wet and wild".

Good hunting.

P.S. - by the way, most of the higher end strip clubs (Angels, Aurora 911, Penthouse) have an African contingent so if you can't find one on Rusdosug that you like, you can always try there.

Hi guys,

I am wondering which escort websites in Moscow can be trusted? I have been reading that most of the websites you find with that search word will be fake, or the girls photos are only for reference, or you will find that when they arrive they are older or more over weight, as prostitution in Russia is illegal any website that has a face will not be true. So I am wondering in your guys experience which sites will actually be legit and which ones actually have good looking ladies?

Thanks!

Thank you Jake993, always a relay-able source when it comes to Moscow scene.

In Moscow from tomorrow so I will check it out!

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Twfunguy;2009295]Hi guys,
So I am wondering in your guys experience which sites will actually be legit and which ones actually have good looking ladies?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Strictly speaking, they ALL have some degree of bait and switch. The ones you see on the back pages of Moscow Times are probably the worst. Not because they will send you an ugly girl but because the turnover is so frequent that it's tough to keep the website updated so the girl you choose on the web site could be long gone and will be replaced by one who looks similar. IMHO, the smaller sites are more reliable. Do you have any specific sites that you are suspicious of?

As promised I report on the growing scene of African girls in Rusdosug. I managed to call on promising looking very young girl that appears on Rusdosug and made an appointment to come to my hotel near pavletskaya (Swiss Hotel). All went fine and she called me when she was there. We made an appointment for a few hours as her English was quite good on the phone and I was in for a little chat. We went to the Skyview restaurant in my hotel and what followed was of course a sad story that is behind a lot of these girls if you ask a little deeper. Normally I do not do that, but for some reason I did this time and it almost got me of the wish to have sex with her, I guess she was more or less honest, did not ask me for anything and a little hesitant to talk.

Anyway I managed to overcome that in the end and we went to my room for what became one of the best sex experiences of the past 5 year! Really passionate, GFE, PSE whatever a roller-coaster I would call it. Could have been the hour spend listening to her story, I believe it was part of it but also she I believe for a moment felt that she was not really working (at least that is what I tell myself).

Now being as experienced as I am, mongering for many many years all over the place, normally used to the German FKK scene, I can say I am spoiled and not easily pleased. I still remember the old days in Moscow, 15 years ago when even Nightflight was a great place, since that time I come to Moscow 4 to 5 times per year but this experience comes in my top 5 ever!

[QUOTE=Goei1163;2008305]Just a quick question on the African ladies on Dosug, Any experience with these ladies? Can it be worth while or is it a rip off.

I am in good old Moscow next week and was thinking of trying.[/QUOTE]You know, I had experience with black girls in Moscow couple of times. I can't say there are really nice, they work not independently.

And they say they receive only 30-40%, respectively, they are not very interested in meetings, African lady in Moscow mostly don't like sex, black girls are lazy, and their service is very poor, only classic sex and oral in condom, despite the low cost and the attractive pictures, I do not recommend calling them.

Best Regards, JamesKim86.

Hey,

Is there anybody used this website: [URL]http://www.love-students.ru/[/URL] .

Are they showing real pictures? What about their quality?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=KareteKid90;2011986]Hey,

Is there anybody used this website: [URL]http://www.love-students.ru/[/URL] .

Are they showing real pictures? What about their quality?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hello!

As I said before I met Janna from this agency. Real girl but a lot of photoshop. And many photos from other sites, not real.

[QUOTE=JamesKim86;2012328]Hello!

As I said before I met Janna from this agency. Real girl but a lot of photoshop. And many photos from other sites, not real.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply.

I like to get your opinion (and other users), how can I get five star ladies? Which website is best for this purpose?

Thanks.

I am coming to Moscow for many years and I am a big fan of Nightflight, because it is the best and safest place after my opinion for non Russian speakers. In the recent months Nightflight was not so crowded as before and sometimes it is even a little bit boring. So my questions is. If I have missed any alternatives. A couple of years ago, there had been CF or Cabanas or similar places. I still will visit NF reguarly, but would appreciate any advice for an alternative, especially for the days during the week.

[QUOTE=Mng23;1982117]Date & time of session: December 20th. 13:00.

Location: Vanilia Massage by Noviy Arbat street.

Name: Maya.

Nationality & Language: Russian Girl knows about 30 words in English.

Age: 20-21.

Face: 4/5.

Body: 5/5 Perfect body. 6 ft, athletic, with long legs, and a tits and ass to die for. Simply an angel from Heaven.

Skill: 5/5 Never been happier with a massage service.

Service: 10/10 Well I've heard about this place but whoa. The lineup was world class..[/QUOTE]Was also in this massage parlor recently, again came to Moscow for work. Natasha surprised me. And I also tried the new program "Aphrodite". Was pleasantly surprised and once again killed in that good and quality place. Links will not be left, because they have been blocked once, but it is not difficult to find it on the Internet. I advise!

[QUOTE=KareteKid90;2014604]Thank you for your reply.

I like to get your opinion (and other users), how can I get five star ladies? Which website is best for this purpose?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I usually use [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL], they have a lot of ladies with different prices, in first 4-5 mostly speak English.

Yes, many fakes, especially in Moscow. I found a funny site. Shows where the stolen photos. [URL]http://blacklistmoscow.escortbook.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=JamesKim86;2015184]I usually use [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL], they have a lot of ladies with different prices, in first 4-5 mostly speak English.[/QUOTE]If verified photo [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL] is better.

But from russia you can not get to the site with the normal browser. Better to use opera with VPN.

On [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL] a lot of cheap girls.

I don't know how good they are, I read on another resource that in Moscow, a fine look escort girl with English, costs from min 8000 rubles -10.000 or more per hour incall / outcall.

I found on Rusdosug some girls from 150 $ -200 $. Possibly they are OK.

Some of them have good discount, half or more than first hour for second hour.

As for the agencies, most of them do not use real photos of girls. They even speak in English only a few phrases. Perhaps because English speaking girls do not stay in agencies for a long time. They go to work themselves, I somehow heard from girls that agencies take half from their earnings.

I think it's better to look for real independents, in my experience they are more interested and the service is better. Another question is that many agencies position photos of a girl as an independent.

Hi Members,

This is my first post after long long time. I am from India and will be visiting Moscow for official purpose in April first week and will be there for 5 days. I will be staying in Park Hotel, Fili Bolshaya. I have gone through Moscow thread and based on FR's have marked few profiles from [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL] (Diana, tatya, tati), bright model agency website and Elena who has her own website. I have few doubts, can any of members help me out here.

1. Is park hotel Fili vistor friendly, like escort agrees, can I call her to my room for few hours. Anybody has any experience with this hotel. As I do not know local language to travel and due to shortage of free time, I thought safe option would be to call escort to my room in evening after 6 or 7 pm.

2. I tried to contact diana ([URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi197541.htm[/URL]) but she blocked me on what's app and no reply to my email. My doubt, are these escorts reluctant to meet Indians. Any suggestions are welcome.

3. Saw many profiles in rusdosug.com and their servies offered. But there is no mention DFK. So does it mean are they open to DFK or it depends on escort. Coming from India DFK is very uncommon among escorts or working girls so posting this doubt to understand how it is in Moscow.

4. Coming to rate, what should be ideal rate I should be paying. I Don't want to end up paying very high price.

5. Any other suggestions I need to take care of are also welcome.

Thanks in advance for support.

Iceman.

[QUOTE=Iceman2007;2016337]Hi Members,

This is my first post after long long time. I am from India and will be visiting Moscow for official purpose in April first week and will be there for 5 days. I will be staying in Park Hotel, Fili Bolshaya. I have gone through Moscow thread and based on FR's have marked few profiles from [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL] (Diana, tatya, tati), bright model agency website and Elena who has her own website. I have few doubts, can any of members help me out here.

1. Is park hotel Fili vistor friendly, like escort agrees, can I call her to my room for few hours. Anybody has any experience with this hotel. As I do not know local language to travel and due to shortage of free time, I thought safe option would be to call escort to my room in evening after 6 or 7 pm.

2. I tried to contact diana ([URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi197541.htm[/URL]) but she blocked me on what's app and no reply to my email..[/QUOTE]As I took already a lot of useful information from this community and I am right now in Moskau I decided to join and add some comments here.

I had an appointment with Diana the other night and can confirm that she is not willing to deal with Indian man. Seems she had some disappointing experience in the past. In any case in can not agree 100% to the reviews in this thread. For me she is a 6/10 and this rating I give only cause a good CIM finish. Gravity took already over control about her boobs, even though she is just 21. We had some discussion about blow job without condom, its included according to her add but she wanted 50 more for this service. Later she admitted not being in good mood because of her hairdresser. Anyway.

I can just warn about this lady:

[URL]http://moskva.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/outcall-2-hrs-100-night-200-7-926-143-46-00-whats-app-viber-24-7/2734438[/URL]

You will find her on other platforms as well. She is fake, there must be an agency behind. They send me 4! Different girls to my room, I refused all of them as a matter of principle.

Last night I end up with Tanya:

[URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi27612.htm[/URL]

Same valid for her in regards to Indians, she block them in what's up and mail.

She is a real mature lady, I do not believe any age with a 3 as a first digit. She passed the zenith off her carrier and she knows it. Very professional in a positive way. Perfect deep throat and CIM. Could have here without condom but I was not brave enough. Will repeat for sure, 9/10 (if you are open for mature lady's).

DFK is not popular at all. It doesn't matter where you go. Ether you are able to set up some chemistry to a lady and she is somehow really exited about you DFK is not going to happen.

Pricing: I would not estimate anything different than app. 200 for 2 hours unless you like cook sucking with condom and just average service.

Enjoy,

Cheater564.

[QUOTE=Cheater564;2017014]As I took already a lot of useful information from this community and I am right now in Moskau I decided to join and add some comments here.

I had an appointment with Diana the other night and can confirm that she is not willing to deal with Indian man. Seems she had some disappointing experience in the past. In any case in can not agree 100% to the reviews in this thread. For me she is a 6/10 and this rating I give only cause a good CIM finish. Gravity took already over control about her boobs, even though she is just 21. We had some discussion about blow job without condom, its included according to her add but she wanted 50 more for this service. Later she admitted not being in good mood because of her hairdresser. Anyway.

I can just warn about this lady:

[URL]http://moskva.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/outcall-2-hrs-100-night-200-7-926-143-46-00-whats-app-viber-24-7/2734438[/URL]

You will find her on other platforms as well. She is fake, there must be an agency behind. They send me 4! Different girls to my room, I refused all of them as a matter of principle.

Last night I end up with Tanya:

[URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi27612.htm[/URL]

Same valid for her in regards to Indians, she block them in what's up and mail.

She is a real mature lady, I do not believe any age with a 3 as a first digit. She passed the zenith off her carrier and she knows it. Very professional in a positive way. Perfect deep throat and CIM. Could have here without condom but I was not brave enough. Will repeat for sure, 9/10 (if you are open for mature lady's).

DFK is not popular at all. It doesn't matter where you go. Ether you are able to set up some chemistry to a lady and she is somehow really exited about you DFK is not going to happen.

Pricing: I would not estimate anything different than app. 200 for 2 hours unless you like cook sucking with condom and just average service.

Enjoy,

Cheater564.[/QUOTE]Thanks for providing valuable information. Will keep in mind. Hopefully my time in moscow is going to be good.

I read some reviews about Hotel Cosmos on Prospect Mira near the VDNH metro station saying there are hookers working the lobby of the hotel in the evenings. Does anyone know if this is still the case? Are there any other hotels with working girls in the lobby?

I thought about going to some of these hotels and picking up a girl but don't know if they will leave with me to go back to my hotel.

[QUOTE=ShiftTab;2018575]I read some reviews about Hotel Cosmos on Prospect Mira near the VDNH metro station saying there are hookers working the lobby of the hotel in the evenings. Does anyone know if this is still the case? Are there any other hotels with working girls in the lobby?

I thought about going to some of these hotels and picking up a girl but don't know if they will leave with me to go back to my hotel.[/QUOTE]If there were any hotel in Moscow that had WG's working the lobby, it would be the Cosmos! Last time I was there I remember thinking that it was still being run in a very "Soviet" way.

The Korston Hotel still has girls working the lobby.

[QUOTE=Iceman2007;2017508]Thanks for providing valuable information. Will keep in mind. Hopefully my time in moscow is going to be good.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Please check your PM for information.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ryan65;2015245]Yes, many fakes, especially in Moscow. I found a funny site. Shows where the stolen photos. [URL]http://blacklistmoscow.escortbook.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]Very true. I had called a Russian girl from rusdosug. But an African girl turned up at the hotel and had to send her back.

Hey guys,

I will be visiting Moscow for the first time. And similar services have been used by myself in Ukraine, I am very satisfied with the short time style girls and Vanilla seems like the place to be. User Mng 23 mentioned this and I did some research. It looks right up my alley. Any suggestions? The prices seem standard $60-80 which I'm happy to pay. Are they safe? Easily located and Good to contact on phone or like some girls, just random phone answers!

If any other places such as this, I will appreciate it.

THanks.

Hi All,

Thanks to the forum and also to wingking for sharing useful information. Finally I was able to meet Diana ([URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi197541.htm[/URL]). After communication over email, she unblocked me on what's app. So met her yesterday evening. She came to my hotel room on time and agreed price was 160 USD (9000 rubles) for couple of hours. My personal opinion is, she looks younger in real than in her photos. Nice tall lady, slim and clean body. Had a very good time with her. She agreed to give FK. Came in 2 times in 2 hours. She was ready for third time also, but johnny had lost the steam by then. She is very nice and professional. Hopefully if time permits I can meet her again. But going to leave on Sunday, so I think it is difficult. One word about hotel, it is girl freindly, she was able to come directly to my room. No issue faced whatsoever.

Based on my personal experience I can give her 9. 5/10. Coming from India, So I am rating her high, we rarely get these kind of girls there.

Iceman2007.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2018699]If there were any hotel in Moscow that had WG's working the lobby, it would be the Cosmos! Last time I was there I remember thinking that it was still being run in a very "Soviet" way.

The Korston Hotel still has girls working the lobby.[/QUOTE]I have done a good bit of research on this topic over the past five years. In my experience Korston is by far the best option in Moscow for girls in the lobby. They are also very relaxed about bringing in your own girls. And breakfast lasts until 17:00. And wifi is fast. Caveat: must be a year since I was there last, but that is how it was then at least.

Cucumber.

Hi,

I made a short of places to be visited during my trip,. If any tips in order to recommend or not the places:

[URL]http://www.twilights.su/[/URL] is close to my place I will be visiting in first probably.

[URL]http://malvina-club.ru/services/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.koroleva-club.ru[/URL]

[URL]http://edem-club.ru/[/URL] I've been to this place several time. It's not luxury place like a FKK actually and girls are in average 5-7 but the service is amazing. They know their job and you are in heaven. I experienced a fake blowjob wow.

[URL]http://en.5massage.ru/contacts[/URL] I watched amazing video in youtube, but it sounds too much perfect for being real.

Thank you for your advises.

[QUOTE=Iceman2007;2019018]Hi All,

Thanks to the forum and also to wingking for sharing useful information. Finally I was able to meet Diana ([URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi197541.htm[/URL]). After communication over email, she unblocked me on what's app. So met her yesterday evening. She came to my hotel room on time and agreed price was 160 USD (9000 rubles) for couple of hours. My personal opinion is, she looks younger in real than in her photos. Nice tall lady, slim and clean body. Had a very good time with her. She agreed to give FK. Came in 2 times in 2 hours. She was ready for third time also, but johnny had lost the steam by then. She is very nice and professional. Hopefully if time permits I can meet her again. But going to leave on Sunday, so I think it is difficult. One word about hotel, it is girl freindly, she was able to come directly to my room. No issue faced whatsoever.

Based on my personal experience I can give her 9. 5/10. Coming from India, So I am rating her high, we rarely get these kind of girls there.

Iceman2007.[/QUOTE]Good FR Iceman2007. Glad to know you enjoyed with a lovely lady. The perception regards Indians arises act out of the action of a few sick perverts who don't know how to conduct oneself with a woman specially a foreigner, hopefully this changes. Cheers!

I found some listings for girls who spoke English on the site rusprostitute, and sent text messages to three of them. It turned out these weren't independent girls like some of the ads claimed but houses with several girls. The operators all spoke english and were easy to understand, and sent me addresses of where they were located. One was at Leninskiy Prospekt, andother at Bolshaya Dorogomilovskaya, and a third was on Studencheskaya. Since the one on Studenchenskaya was near a metro station and closest to my hotel, I decided to go there. I went to the address, which was a 24-hour store and called the operator, who sent out a woman to meet me and walk me to the apartment building.

In the apartment, there were several couches and I waited for 5 girls to come out, almost all were almost unfuckable. They looked tired, drug comatose, or just fat. The only one that spoke English was an African girl who had a slim body and big tits, so I ended up picking her since I couldn't speak to any of the other girls. Talking to Mya, their working conditions were pretty poor and the other girls were really tired from not sleeping the night before, which made several of them look like drug addicts coming off shot. Anyway, for 3000 rubles, I had an hour with covered BJ, missionary, and doggie. It was OK, since I was not really interested in African girls, but she was the only one who spoke English in the apartment. It turned out the girl pictured in the ad, Alsya, was from Uzbekistan and only spoke Russian and Uzbek. So much for accurate advertising. Maybe the information below would help others who will be visiting Moscow in the future.

964-793-3688 Studencheskaya street, a block from the Studencheskaya metro station. 3000 rubles for 1 hour.

916-810-6996 Leminskiy Prospekt, near the Prospekt Vernadskogo metro station. 3000 rubles for 1 hour.

985-394-5095 Bolshaya Dorogomilovskaya 7, near the Kievskaya metro station. 3500 rubles for 1 hour.

Hi there comrades!

I'm local guy from Moscow. I know the scene pretty well. Girls, massage places and online booking services. I just wonder there is anyone around who really need a support of that kind? I know that it's s real struggle for foreigners to find a decent girl here, mostly because of language barrier and also it could be a really expensive if you do not know some tips. I speak English and a little bit Spanish, so I thought maybe I can provide some services for foreigner tourists or expats who doesn't speak Russian. For some money or for exclusive girl services. What do you think about it?

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Hello all,

I have been away from moscow for a while and I might have a chance to visit it again sometime soon. I have a couple of questions for those great heroes who have been informing us over the years.

1- Our trips were canceled last year due to Russia blocking Turkish Visas. I'm wondering if they treat Turks differently after all that shit went down. Would I be safe visiting strip clubs like Bordo because they ask for passports there? If anyone has any experience on this issue I'd appreciate comments about it.

2- I'll be doing my work on intimcity and I have read the forums regularly. I wish to get some girls that I like from the website via SMS-google translate-email combo. Hopefully this time it will work. I know about rusdosug but the content there is much less compared to intimcity. What I want to ask about is that if there are people that I can add as friends on intimcity so that I can read their comments about girls. I have added a couple of people over the years, but some are probably fake. It would really help if the community in ISG shared their accounts so we can add them and read their comments. I can share my account but since I got no reviews it is worthless. I can also list some people who seem real and their comments are helpful.

3- The girls I have added to my favorites last year mostly are not working anymore or their accounts have been cancelled. There were 100 that I picked but now there are 5 remaining. Would anyone be willing to help a brother out and call the girls and make a date for me as I have failed countless times trying to communicate with google translate. Maybe there is a service for this I don't really know. I have seen a couple people offering such services but I couldn't trust them. I thought of tipping the reception guys for this work but then they want a hefty price for the service or create more problems.

I'd appreciate any feedback.

You can see and make your impression.

[URL]https://vimeo.com/213088727[/URL]

So as I didn't get any advice, I rolled the dices and experienced:

- Vanilla en. 5 massage. Ru Amazing place with a LOT of girls available. I picked 2 for a 4 hands massage. They played a lot together and I also played a lot with them. Good experience with beautiful girls. Like the video recently posted. I recommend. Girls from 6 to 8.

- Edem. Already experienced last year, I decided to go there at 3 am. Bad idea. The line up is less interesting. From 4 to 6. I picked a girl for a 1 hour massage. I cannot complain as for 50 $ you can spend an hour with a girl, but as told, I do prefer Vanilla.

Enjoy Moscow guys. It is still even.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2020970]Hi,

I made a short of places to be visited during my trip,. If any tips in order to recommend or not the places:

[URL]http://www.twilights.su/[/URL] is close to my place I will be visiting in first probably.

[URL]http://malvina-club.ru/services/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.koroleva-club.ru[/URL]

[URL]http://edem-club.ru/[/URL] I've been to this place several time. It's not luxury place like a FKK actually and girls are in average 5-7 but the service is amazing. They know their job and you are in heaven. I experienced a fake blowjob wow.

[URL]http://en.5massage.ru/contacts[/URL] I watched amazing video in youtube, but it sounds too much perfect for being real.

Thank you for your advises.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2034782]So as I didn't get any advice, I rolled the dices and experienced:

- Vanilla en. 5 massage. Ru Amazing place with a LOT of girls available. I picked 2 for a 4 hands massage. They played a lot together and I also played a lot with them. Good experience with beautiful girls. Like the video recently posted. I recommend. Girls from 6 to 8.

- Edem. Already experienced last year, I decided to go there at 3 am. Bad idea. The line up is less interesting. From 4 to 6. I picked a girl for a 1 hour massage. I cannot complain as for 50 $ you can spend an hour with a girl, but as told, I do prefer Vanilla.

Enjoy Moscow guys. It is still even.[/QUOTE]How safe was it to get to Vanilla en .5? Well, let me put it this way, how safe was it all together?

I've checked out the independents on RusDosug and have noticed some really hot providers but they don't speak English. Is it at all possible for a non Russian speaker to session these babes?

Hello Guys,

I recently moved to Moscow.

While browsing expat forums for useful information about living here, I found Moscow Expat Life and their classified ads for escorts:

[URL]http://www.moscowexpatlife.ru/classified-ads/browse-ads/39/escorts/[/URL]

There are several ads dated this month, so presumably the advertisers are active.

I haven't tried this avenue and I doubt I will.

But it must be a near certainty that the advertisers speak English.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2037144]I've checked out the independents on RusDosug and have noticed some really hot providers but they don't speak English. Is it at all possible for a non Russian speaker to session these babes?[/QUOTE]In the upper right hand corner, you will see "RUS EN DE. These buttons mean "Russian English German".

If you click the EN for English, you will see providers who either speak english or have someone who can arrange an appointment in English.

[QUOTE=ManWithBeard;2037557]Hello Guys,

I recently moved to Moscow.

While browsing expat forums for useful information about living here, I found Moscow Expat Life and their classified ads for escorts:

[URL]http://www.moscowexpatlife.ru/classified-ads/browse-ads/39/escorts/[/URL]

There are several ads dated this month, so presumably the advertisers are active.

I haven't tried this avenue and I doubt I will.

But it must be a near certainty that the advertisers speak English.

Good luck![/QUOTE]Yes, pretty good bet that girls advertising in an English language expat newspaper either speak English or have a way to communicate with you in English. Russian are quite enterprising. Welcome to Moscow. Hope you enjoy your stay.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2038092]Yes, pretty good bet that girls advertising in an English language expat newspaper either speak English or have a way to communicate with you in English. Russian are quite enterprising. Welcome to Moscow. Hope you enjoy your stay.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

First time working in Russia.

Its taking me longer than usual to settle in.

I'm used to living in smaller cities, Bucharest, Sofia, Belgrade, etc.

[QUOTE=HighRevver;2037137]How safe was it to get to Vanilla en .5? Well, let me put it this way, how safe was it all together?[/QUOTE]I never felt unsafe in this city. I am talking about 2 clubs that are located in the city center, therefore, clean and almost safe area.

If you don't feel confident in Moscow, then I recommend Vanilla. It is located at 20 meters from New Arbat, a large and modern avenue.

Hi guys,

I was in Moscow last August and if you want to find working girls you can go to a taxi driver and ask him to take you to a "tocka". These are areas where 5-10 girls are located next to the street. The price for the whole night is around 15000 rubles and if you are lucky you can find good girls. I also payed the taxi driver 1500 rubles for the ride. The taxi driver told me that in the last years tockas have deteriorated and in the past you had much bigger selection of girls. Hope I have helped.

[QUOTE=Hugod;2041222]Hi guys,

I was in Moscow last August and if you want to find working girls you can go to a taxi driver and ask him to take you to a "tocka". These are areas where 5-10 girls are located next to the street. The price for the whole night is around 15000 rubles and if you are lucky you can find good girls. I also payed the taxi driver 1500 rubles for the ride. The taxi driver told me that in the last years tockas have deteriorated and in the past you had much bigger selection of girls. Hope I have helped.[/QUOTE]Tochkas. How nostalgic. The first (and only) time I visited a Tochka was back 2006 when they were already in decline. Still, there were at least a dozen to chose from. All shapes, sizes and ethnicities. Oh, those were the days. Sigh.

Can anyone say the best / cheapest way to exchange USD to rubles in Moscow?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2042014]Can anyone say the best / cheapest way to exchange USD to rubles in Moscow?[/QUOTE]The best way is to get Rubles out of an ATM from any major bank. It is better than money exchanges.

After that, there are money exchanges all over the center of Moscow. The trick is to find one where the buy rate and sell rate are close but without an additional transaction fee. There are plenty, but place that charges a fee won't tell you until you are commited to the deal. If you speak Russian well you can ask them or read the fine print posted on the wall inside most of these places. Absolutely DO NOT use the exchanges at the airport.

Trying to find hotel that won't break my budget.

Is Cosmos hotel "girl friendly" if I bring back girls from NF?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2042364]Trying to find hotel that won't break my budget.

Is Cosmos hotel "girl friendly" if I bring back girls from NF?[/QUOTE]MDS,

While Cosmos might be girl friendly, I am not sure any girl you pick up in NF will come back with you to Cosmos! Ha ha. Sorry, just kidding.

Seriously, I think you can do better closer in to the center. Have you checked rates these days at the Western chains? I guess it depends on your budget. And don't forget about Korston. Plenty of WG handing about the lobby!

I did a quick scan on [URL]booking.com[/URL] and here's what I found;.

President Hotel - $103.

Sheraton - $160.

StandArt Hotel - $168.

Sovietsky - $77 (This is actually a cool historic hotel and IMHO is under rated).

Golden Ring - $132.

Peking Hotel - $79.

All of these hotels are girl friendly and are well located. Forget Cosmos.

May I inquire about the dress codes at the main strip clubs and Nightflight.

Business casual, or will golf wear suffice.

Do hotels have power outlet converters for laptops or do I need to bring my own?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2042792]May I inquire about the dress codes at the main strip clubs and Nightflight.

Business casual, or will golf wear suffice.[/QUOTE]I've worn shorts into a couple strip clubs. It is actually nice because when they are dancing for you in the public area they rub up against your bare thighs.

I think you want to dress better than golf wear for Nightflight--at least business casual.

Hi gents,

I'm interested in sponsoring a Russian girl for regular meetings but don't know how to find them. If anyone could share some ideas I would be grateful.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=YummyPL;2043165]I've worn shorts into a couple strip clubs.[/QUOTE]Hey Yummy,

Have you worn shorts into a strip club in Moscow? Wow, I am surprised that Face Control let you in. Jeans are always fine but hearing that you got into one of the better Moscow strips clubs is unexpected!

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2045909]Hi gents,

I'm interested in sponsoring a Russian girl for regular meetings but don't know how to find them. If anyone could share some ideas I would be grateful.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Dear AS,

Here's a good place to start.

[URL]http://www.moscowexpatlife.ru/classified-ads/browse-ads/37/sponsorship/[/URL]

While there are only a handful who specifically place their ads in "sponsorship", you can bet your ass that plenty of the girls who have ads under "escorts" would be delighted to discuss sponsorship with you.

Alternatively, Strip clubs are a good place to start. A lot of girls who work in the strip clubs are university students who are from the Russian "provinces". Since no one in Moscow (other than fellow students) know them, working in the strips club is a good way to earn money without the potential shame. They all need money so if you can offer them an alternative form of income supplement, I am sure they would be happy to discuss an arrangement with you.

I speak from first hand experience on this. I met Svetlana at one of these clubs back in 2009. She was a dental student at the time doing about 3 shifts a week at one of the more popular clubs. She danced for me several time and we got to chatting. After 2 or 3 visits, it was clear that we had a connection. She confided that she was short on money and that taking on additional shifts at the club were going to cut into her studies. Since I was traveling regularly to Moscow, I suggested that I would pay her $600 per month for the next 4 months is she would "spend time" with me when I was in town. It was a great arrangement. She was fun and intelligent with a smoking body. She would come to my hotel or serviced apartment at least a few nights a week when I was in town. Sometimes, she would show up at 7:00 AM after having worked the night shift a the strip club. I would let her sleep while I went off to meetings and when I would return in the afternoon she was ready to fuck like a rabbit. Oh those were the days.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2046437]Hey Yummy,

Have you worn shorts into a strip club in Moscow? Wow, I am surprised that Face Control let you in. Jeans are always fine but hearing that you got into one of the better Moscow strips clubs is unexpected![/QUOTE]Jake,

Hey Jake. I know for sure I did at Penthouse on New Arbat. I am pretty sure I did at least one other. I've never been to a club when it was crowded. I also don't really like strip clubs so I wasn't really trying.

I am planning a visit to Moscow in the near future. I was hoping to get a few answers. I used to be an active member on ISG before. Been lying low for a while.

1. Been trolling Mamba. Have had luck but the asking price is ridiculous at times. $1000 for full night. The best I have found so far is 30,000 rubles for 24 hrs.

2. Have used Mamba before in Kiev and Prague with good results and very reasonable price.

3. I am looking for high end salons. I am sure there must be real good ones in Moscow. I would really appreciate if someone can guide me to them.

4 rusdosug and other websites what you see and what you get is two different things as I understand. It's the same the world around.

5 there is nothing like the FKK in Moscow.

6. Would anyone suggest any high end salons that you can spend quality time with. Looking for threesome with beautiful busty girls. Preferably if they have themed sex suites.

Thank you.

Peter.

[QUOTE=Peter1971;2046935]I am planning a visit to Moscow in the near future. I was hoping to get a few answers. I used to be an active member on ISG before. Been lying low for a while.

1. Been trolling Mamba. Have had luck but the asking price is ridiculous at times. $1000 for full night. The best I have found so far is 30,000 rubles for 24 hrs.

2. Have used Mamba before in Kiev and Prague with good results and very reasonable price.

3. I am looking for high end salons. I am sure there must be real good ones in Moscow. I would really appreciate if someone can guide me to them.

4 rusdosug and other websites what you see and what you get is two different things as I understand. It's the same the world around.

5 there is nothing like the FKK in Moscow.

6. Would anyone suggest any high end salons that you can spend quality time with. Looking for threesome with beautiful busty girls. Preferably if they have themed sex suites.

Thank you.

Peter.[/QUOTE]1. IMHO, Mamba is passe in Moscow. Waste of time. Frequented mostly by barracudas.

2. Good to know.

3. The salon scene is not that same as in Saint Petersburg. It's more massage oriented. You can see a complete listing on Rusdosug.

4 Agreed.

5 Boy, I wish there WAS FKK in Moscow. That would be like heaven.

6. There are a handful of high-end salons in Moscow. [URL]http://charmel.info/[/URL] and [URL]www.fantasys.org[/URL].

You're welcome.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2047524]

6. There are a handful of high-end salons in Moscow. [URL]http://charmel.info/[/URL] and [URL]www.fantasys.org[/URL].

You're welcome.[/QUOTE]Hi Jake,

Fantasys web site is not working, I have vpn and tried several countries to no avail. Do you still use them, if so can you share their phone number?

I have made it to charmel. I called them when I got to the place mentioned on the web site and they spoke english very well. The woman on the phone asked my name and told me to wait. I wasn't actually expecting them to speak english, that surprised me. A guy came along -well dressed and pretty normal. I told him I was hungry and he told me I can just eat in the bar next to their place which was a good english or Irish pub I think. I called him in half an hour and he took me to the apartment.

They got me into a room which was well designed but nothing spectacular. In a minute 6-7 girls came into the room and one was to my liking, I give her 9 and the others were good as well. Mostly 7-8 I'd say. There was also another I liked but I had to pick one and I went with the blonde of course. Got a towel went to shower, paid the money for 1 hour 6000 rubles. 1 Hour went by fast, with google translate, I had fun.

I'd definitely recommend this place but I'm not sure if this is high end. They send to hotels but first you have to build trust with them. I have no idea how long that takes but I'll report in the future if they send to hotel.

WTW.

[QUOTE=WanderTheWorld;2047771]Hi Jake,

Fantasys web site is not working, I have vpn and tried several countries to no avail. Do you still use them, if so can you share their phone number?

I have made it to charmel. I called them when I got to the place mentioned on the web site and they spoke english very well. The woman on the phone asked my name and told me to wait. I wasn't actually expecting them to speak english, that surprised me. A guy came along -well dressed and pretty normal. I told him I was hungry and he told me I can just eat in the bar next to their place which was a good english or Irish pub I think. I called him in half an hour and he took me to the apartment.

They got me into a room which was well designed but nothing spectacular. In a minute 6-7 girls came into the room and one was to my liking, I give her 9 and the others were good as well. Mostly 7-8 I'd say. There was also another I liked but I had to pick one and I went with the blonde of course. Got a towel went to shower, paid the money for 1 hour 6000 rubles. 1 Hour went by fast, with google translate, I had fun.

I'd definitely recommend this place but I'm not sure if this is high end. They send to hotels but first you have to build trust with them. I have no idea how long that takes but I'll report in the future if they send to hotel.

WTW.[/QUOTE]WTW,

Thanks for the report.

Sadly, Fantasys seems to have gone dark. There used to be 3 in their group. Charmel, Fantasys and Atel which dropped off the map about 5 years ago as I recall. Bummer.

I must confess that it has been several years since I frequented either establishment so it is nice to see an update. Also nice to hear that the format has not changed! Judging from what how much information they actually gave on their updated web site, they must be hurting. There was a time where all you would get was the phone number. And when you called, if you tried to speak English with them, all you heard was a "click". Sounds like they have become a lot more "English Friendly".

The thing about "high end" in Moscow is that it's mostly by referral. I have heard about some places that sound more like what you seek, but it's word of mouth and mostly Russia to Russian. And it's expensive.

Thanks again for the update!!

Thank you for your information! I really appreciate it.

Also thank you for sharing your own experiences, they are really interesting to me.

Last time when I was in Moscow I called an escort from the internet called Katya, who is a student and work as independent. She was really nice and friendly to me and satisfied almost all my expectations. Now I'm back in Russia and have texted her again and she promised to meet me again. This time I will discuss the sponsorship thing with her.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2046448]Dear AS,

Here's a good place to start.

[URL]http://www.moscowexpatlife.ru/classified-ads/browse-ads/37/sponsorship/[/URL]

While there are only a handful who specifically place their ads in "sponsorship", you can bet your ass that plenty of the girls who have ads under "escorts" would be delighted to discuss sponsorship with you.

Alternatively, Strip clubs are a good place to start. A lot of girls who work in the strip clubs are university students who are from the Russian "provinces". Since no one in Moscow (other than fellow students) know them, working in the strips club is a good way to earn money without the potential shame. They all need money so if you can offer them an alternative form of income supplement, I am sure they would be happy to discuss an arrangement with you.

I speak from first hand experience on this. I met Svetlana at one of these clubs back in 2009. She was a dental student at the time doing about 3 shifts a week at one of the more popular clubs. She danced for me several time and we got to chatting..[/QUOTE]

Thank you.

Jake and WTW.

Another question. [URL]Rusdosug.com[/URL]. Been trying to log on with VPN from China. (routing through Las Vegas) Does not work at all. It worked fine when I logged on from the USA. Can't seem to figure out why.

Any suggestions.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2047524]1. IMHO, Mamba is passe in Moscow. Waste of time. Frequented mostly by barracudas.

2. Good to know.

3. The salon scene is not that same as in Saint Petersburg. It's more massage oriented. You can see a complete listing on Rusdosug.

4 Agreed.

5 Boy, I wish there WAS FKK in Moscow. That would be like heaven.

6. There are a handful of high-end salons in Moscow. [URL]http://charmel.info/[/URL] and [URL]www.fantasys.org[/URL].

You're welcome.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info.

I was going over my contacts in Kiev from 2 years back on mamba.

$70 + $70 for threesome for 3 hours. I still keep in touch with them.

Sponsored a beautiful blonde for $500 a month.

All the above on mamba.

Great times.

I don't want to start a discussion about Kiev vs Moscow.

It apples ve pears. Comes down to preference I think Russian girls have bigger ass and boobs.

Russia is uncharted territory for me. Would a winter vacation vs fall vacation be better. It would be cold but would there be better availability and less demand so better pricing?

Thanks.

What if the girls on the websites don't answer your calls and messages? In my experience most of them don't. Any ideas?

[QUOTE=Peter1971;2049143]

I don't want to start a discussion about Kiev vs Moscow.

It apples ve pears. Comes down to preference I think Russian girls have bigger ass and boobs.

.[/QUOTE]Interesting observation. I think a lot of people would argue the exact opposite.

Having said that, Russia has well over 100 different ethic groups ranging from very slender Nordic to very "full figured" Slavic girls. By contrast, Ukraine has about 12. So any comparison would have to be quite subjective.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2049281]What if the girls on the websites don't answer your calls and messages? In my experience most of them don't. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]Can you be more specific? Which websites are you referring to? I guess like in all things, there are more reliable web sites and less reliable web sites. If they don't answer you, I guess there's not much you can do.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1218-Escort-Classified-Ads&p=2048359&viewfull=1#post2048359[/URL]

Called the lady in this post. We agreed for 2 hours for 10.000 rubles. Came to me in like 40 minutes. Ask for her photos via viber and she will send you some, the ones on the site are fake. However the photos seem to be from a couple of years earlier. She gave me my first massage with oil, it was nice but I can't compare it with anything else. After massage and a quick sex session she left. I didn't force her to stay however she is real for a quickie and she responds fast. She said she was 28 years old. She does good oral sex with condom, active in sex but since it was short for me, take it with a grain of salt.

I'm making a detailed post as a how to guide in Moscow alone, hunting girls in intimcity. NL and other such sites. Ones I'm looking for are independents. I think I have wasted on this subject countless hours and SMS + phone calls. So read it before you delve further you non Russian speakers.

It is extremely hard to find them even when you are speaking Russian. When you find something golden it is either well known there are shitload of people in the line so the girl cannot respond or she is not well known that you are left wandering whether she is real. So it comes to perseverance and good method to find these girls.

1- Download 2 apps, viber and yandextranslate to your phone. I fucking hope you have whatsapp already. But since I use it for my normal life, it is not my preferred method of contact. When you want to translate something in anywhere yandex popsup to automatically translate the copied text in android phones. I have no clue about iphone. (Someone please try it and report back).

2- Download google chrome to your LAPTOP. When you go to intimcity. NL you will see it popsup auto translate for you. Select it and make it default. Make an account and start searching through parameters section. Especially use the dropdown menu with updates of profiles for the last week.

3- Now we are in the process of searching for girls you may like. Search them in categories and spend once a week to find them to add them to your list. If you can contact them before coming to Russia that is great. The key to to finding independents is their viber and whatsapp and even telegram accounts are used by them. Once you have added the girl's phone number to your phone it will popup in those applications. And they use several of their pictures from even their daily life in there so you can see and check whether they are real. Most of them use different photos from daily life in different applications. I have found 2 girls like that and they all reply at some point and make arrangements to meet in the future. Most of them respond really fast like in seconds.

4- Ask them if they know english, most likely they won't, start translating with your phone. Write what you want to say in simple terms in your language, then copy all sentence. In android phones a popup will appear for auto translate. Copy the translation and replace the sentence.

5- Do not send them SMS, noone replied to my SMS and only to my Viber, whatsapp and very rarely to telegram. Even with google translate they never responded.

6- Google translate and yandex translate both have speech translation, I use them for talking to girls when they come to the room and they use it to communicate back. You don't have to write anything down, just speak and it is much faster than using the small keypad on the phone.

Happy hunting, I will update if anything else comes up.

Privacy Tip: Do not use Uber for going to their place as you cannot delete the history of Uber.

Hello?

I am going to Moscow 1st time in my life and based on my research I am planning to do these actions for 2 nights.

Hotel.

- Will stay at Peking hotel.

Strip clubs.

- Penthouse strip club on New Arbat Ave, 21, Moskva, 119019.

- Virgin club on Leningradskiy pr. , 37к6, Moskva, 125167.

- Bordo club on Pevcheskiy per. , 4, Moskva, 109028.

Massage.

- Vanilla massage.

Dinings.

- Buddha Bar Moscow on Tsvetnoy Blvd, 2, Moskva, 127051.

- Nobu rest. On Bolshaya Dmitrovka Street, 20.

- Ribi Net streak at St. Regis Hotel on Nikolskaya 12/1.

- Pushkin restaurant (for Russian foods) Tverskoy blvd. 26-A.

Freelancers pickup.

- Korston hotel lobby girls.

- Cosmos hotel lobby girls.

Questions please;.

- Any advice on my agenda?

- What menu should I take and how much is it at Vanilla massage to have a sex?

- What time is the best time to go to the hotels to pickup lobby girls?

- Is there any disco / clubs where I can pick up young, pretty and slim freelancers?

- Burlesque clubs is worth visiting? Or is this just another strip club? [URL]https://bur-club.ru/english/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Jake993;2049426]Can you be more specific? Which websites are you referring to? I guess like in all things, there are more reliable web sites and less reliable web sites. If they don't answer you, I guess there's not much you can do.[/QUOTE]Hey Jake,

Will be in your land of mother Russia for 2 quick nights this Monday and Tuesday, so where we go for club pickups except Night flight any other hot night clubs where it will be fun music and nice pussy.

Cheers mate.

Peace,

Alex.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;2051551]Hey Jake,

Will be in your land of mother Russia for 2 quick nights this Monday and Tuesday, so where we go for club pickups except Night flight any other hot night clubs where it will be fun music and nice pussy.

Cheers mate.

Peace,

Alex.[/QUOTE]Hi Alex,

I am so sorry. I was offline for several days.

Hope you made out ok in Moskva!

Cheers,

Jake.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2053419]Hi Alex,

I am so sorry. I was offline for several days.

Hope you made out ok in Moskva!

Cheers,

Jake.[/QUOTE]Hey Jake,

Still here mate, went to Night Flight on the first night and it was sad and disappointing at the bottom bar, worse than I could imagine dark dingy and ugly women I don't know how is the scene up in the restaurant will go in a while to check it out.

Went to this place called Baga bar with the Russian Blonde who was with me in Dubai for 2 months and its an amazing nice place huge it is, Indian themed bar nice music nice people cool drinks and open late till 6 am no pickups there but normal couples and single women in groups after the clubs close come here for there share of drinks.

Again went yesterday with 2 women one was Russian and one her friend nice slim 32 yr old lady but looks 22 she made me super horny fucking horny while we were having drinks at the table and then I could not resist here and took here to the Men's WR and we started making out and then BBBJ and then I was inside her in doggy super tight and juicy she was 2 or maybe 3 minutes we are in the action my hand on her mouth so she does not scream and Bang the bathroom door opens and police was there, I had my balls in my mouth but the lady was quiet and calm and we quietly walked back to the table he shouted at me in Russian and in the end I made a sad face and said I don't speak Russian he said pay bill and leave. That was the most humble police officer I have seen in my life and the most memorable night of my life in the past few years worth mentioning and thanking how I was saved from a shitty situation. There is no control on a hard dick and wet pussy. Suka Bleat.

Mate guide me on some nice pick up places clubs bars, I am in the downtown next to Red Square so something crazy where have hot women I need your assistance and quickly buddy last 2 nights.

Cheers and peace.

Alex.

[QUOTE=WanderTheWorld;2050480]I'm making a detailed post ...[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for this informative report. From my experience I pretty much agree with your detailed roadmap. It will help a lot of newcomers.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;2054091]Hey Jake,

and Bang the bathroom door opens and police was there, I had my balls in my mouth but the lady was quiet and calm and we quietly walked back to the table he shouted at me in Russian and in the end I made a sad face and said I don't speak Russian he said pay bill and leave. That was the most humble police officer I have seen in my life and the most memorable night of my life in the past few years worth mentioning and thanking how I was saved from a shitty situation. There is no control on a hard dick and wet pussy. Suka Bleat..[/QUOTE]Wow, what a night. In principle it is not illegal to bang in WCs. I did it myself while here in Russia. And Police don't usually raid bars (drinking alcohol is a part of the ruskaya dusha). It sounds more like the local Oxrana, or security man understood from outside- remember: they have smallest cameras everywhere specially in upscale restaurants- what you were trying to do in there and went to stop you. I don't think he personally would have a problem with that, but maybe he was concerned about other guests feeling disturbed by it. Many of such security guys like to wear dark blue (like the Russian police BTW) , and because of that some foreigners could think that they are cops themselves. But you did the right thing by respecting him because he has the responsibility for the order inside the place anyways.

Now something different. I had a girl on tinder 1 year ago. We met 2 times. The 3rd date was a lay. She is not a hooker, well lets put this way, she was not a hooker by then, I only paid for a coffee (1st date) and a dinner (2nd date), and the bang was free on the 3rd meeting. Now, one of my friend found her on tinder but surprisingly she is now asking for present in order to meet him (there is not even a guarantee for a bang). I told him to stay away from such deals. He doesn't know yet that I did her last year, it also does not matter for now. Should I tell him abut her / expose her to him?! Her name is Alla. She is slim, has blue eyes brown hair. Her English is average, she is friendly. They had a very long chat on tinder before they moved to whatsapp, and only on whatsapp she started to talk like a semi-pro.

I told him that "padarok" is a very relative thing. It can happens that he brings her a single cheap rose and she is very happy, ready to fuck right there or, in another extreme, he can bring her a 10 k perfume and she will be unimpressed. So everything is relative when we are talking about gifts. My suggestion was to break it down to money and just ask her how much she wants. This would make some things clear for both sides.

I've seen that a shift is going on in tinder for a while now from freebies who are looking the "serious" mr. Right to freelancers who finally got real, understood that the clock is ticking and now became freelancers who are open to Mr. Right now with ca $h or at least a pre$ent. What do you guys think?

[QUOTE=WingForwing;2054311]Thank you very much for this informative report. From my experience I pretty much agree with your detailed roadmap. It will help a lot of newcomers.[/QUOTE]Here is my account and verifieds in Moscow. [URL]https://www.intimcity.nl/user_info.php?id=107809[/URL].

Milana is superb and 25 years old petite girl.

Kristina is the one I preferred because I'm into anal. However be warned she acts dull, just lies on the bed, has a belly, really bad at oral sex. Her anal is extremely satisfying though. That's why I called her 2 times + cheaper than others.

This is the club which has pussy super hot and sexy why no one write on the forum about it I have no clue, but 2 women took me from night flight to Oblaka man o man it is a sexy place and super hot women some normal but most of them WG but you need to speak Russian to woo them not like this.

I have not seen pussy better than this in Moscow, night flight was shit in front of Oblaka but they say it does not open every night just on Thursday to Sunday so what do we do on a Monday when we are horny in Moscow, someone guide me on something about Moscow.

There has to be some other places where we find good pussy in Moscow a bit different and hot and horny.

Cheers and peace.

Alex.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;2054649]This is the club which has pussy super hot and sexy why no one write on the forum about it I have no clue, but 2 women took me from night flight to Oblaka man o man it is a sexy place and super hot women some normal but most of them WG but you need to speak Russian to woo them not like this.

I have not seen pussy better than this in Moscow, night flight was shit in front of Oblaka but they say it does not open every night just on Thursday to Sunday so what do we do on a Monday when we are horny in Moscow, someone guide me on something about Moscow.

There has to be some other places where we find good pussy in Moscow a bit different and hot and horny.

Cheers and peace.

Alex.[/QUOTE]Hi Alex,

Sorry again. Been offline for a few days.

Yes, sadly Night Flight is shit these days. Especially in summer. Girls are either off to the country house. The really good ones have gone to Ibiza.

Oblaka (clouds in Russian)! Excellent that you found it. It's only good in summer. Another great bar is Strelka Bar which is near Christ the Savior Cathedral. [URL]http://www.strelka.com/en/bar[/URL].

Don't let the School of Design and Architecture fool you. They have a great outdoor rooftop bar with very hot chicks in summer.

Another great place in the same are is Bar Gypsy [URL]http://www.bargipsy.ru/[/URL] Very strict Face Control but you can probably get in. There are several great bars in the same area on the Island near the old chocolate factory.

No far away is a place called Soho Rooms [URL]http://sohorooms.com/en/.[/URL] This place might be up your alley. A little bit dated but high end. Very nice pussy there on weekends.

Good luck and enjoy!!

[QUOTE=Jake993;2055080]Hi Alex,

Sorry again. Been offline for a few days.

Yes, sadly Night Flight is shit these days. Especially in summer. Girls are either off to the country house. The really good ones have gone to Ibiza.

Oblaka (clouds in Russian)! Excellent that you found it. It's only good in summer. Another great bar is Strelka Bar which is near Christ the Savior Cathedral. [URL]http://www.strelka.com/en/bar[/URL].

Don't let the School of Design and Architecture fool you. They have a great outdoor rooftop bar with very hot chicks in summer.

Another great place in the same are is Bar Gypsy [URL]http://www.bargipsy.ru/[/URL] Very strict Face Control but you can probably get in. There are several great bars in the same area on the Island near the old chocolate factory.

No far away is a place called Soho Rooms [URL]http://sohorooms.com/en/.[/URL] This place might be up your alley. A little bit dated but high end. Very nice pussy there on weekends.

Good luck and enjoy!![/QUOTE]NEWS FLASH. After having consulted with the "experts", the most popular, most fashionable place for hot pussy in Moscow is now "Siberia Restaurant" located on Bolshaya Nikitskaya, 58 [URL]http://eng.siberiamoscow.ru/[/URL]. But be warned, there will be Face Control and it will be expensive. So for you Alex, no problem!

[QUOTE=Jake993;2055128]NEWS FLASH. After having consulted with the "experts", the most popular, most fashionable place for hot pussy in Moscow is now "Siberia Restaurant" located on Bolshaya Nikitskaya, 58 [URL]http://eng.siberiamoscow.ru/[/URL]. But be warned, there will be Face Control and it will be expensive. So for you Alex, no problem![/QUOTE]So, can you tell us how much would it be for S / T and L / T?

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2038833]I never felt unsafe in this city. I am talking about 2 clubs that are located in the city center, therefore, clean and almost safe area.

If you don't feel confident in Moscow, then I recommend Vanilla. It is located at 20 meters from New Arbat, a large and modern avenue.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I went and had a blast but it was pretty expensive and I'm looking for a fuller experience. Trying my hand using a couple of the sites so well see.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2055854]So, can you tell us how much would it be for S / T and L / T?[/QUOTE]These are normal girls, not hookers.

Finally got the chance to visit Moscow. It is a tough city. I travel extensively around the world and can pretty much assimilate to any country or culture pretty quick, Moscow was on the harder side. The language is a problem of course, traffic is insane and construction everywhere due to the world cup next year does not help. Having said all of that, I still had a great time with all the girls that I met.

I started browsing Mamba and Tinder a couple of weeks before I got there. I was surprised with the amount of matches I got on Tinder, well above the average. I went on a couple of dates and I had to cancel a few because I just had no time. There was a real pretty one that was supposed to meet me for dinner my last night which I just straight up cancelled because I was all sexed out.

Tinder.

I went on 2 dates from matches on Tinder. The first one was just full of herself, claiming to be "not one of those girls" but then asking for a "gift" I noticed most of the "normal girls" immediately asked for gifts to meet for dinner. They try to act all coy but we know what they are about. Anyway, first date pissed me off, we had dinner and I excused myself. This was the first night, I was tired so I just went back to my hotel and went to bed to get ready for my early meeting the next day.

I met another girl on my 3rd night. She was great. Very pretty, well-traveled and spoke decent English. At dinner the usual "No, I can't come back to your room the first night blah blah. After a little convincing (very little) she agreed to come back to my room at the Sheraton to watch a movie. Well you know how that ended up, she stayed over and we had round 2 and 3 in the morning before she left. She wanted to see me again, but I still had not hit up any night clubs and I was not going to miss this chance.

Mamba.

I talked to a lot of girls on Mamba. I arranged a bunch of dates with normal looking girls and appointments with the pros. What I can safely say is there are no normal girls on Mamba. The pro's are also all a bunch of BS. The pics are fake and its normally an agency you are talking to. I invited one of the girls over, when she showed up and I met her in the lobby, she clearly was a different person so I sent her back. I talked to the agency after and I told them "I can be your best customer, don't waste my time and I am ready to pay even a little extra" Russians are just not entrepreneurs, common sense does not apply from what I saw. The chick on the phone just didn't want to entertain me and I gave up.

I met this beautiful 22-year-old on Mamba though, she was real. I ended up seeing her another time because she was so hot and had an amazing body. The damage was only $100. She works for a law firm and is a semi-pro. I will fly her out on one of my meetings around Europe to join me for 2 days. She is a keeper. Other than that, and unless you are lucky, Mamba is a waste of time. I would still try my luck though if I were you.

Strip Clubs.

I did a lot of research on this forum before going. The information (if you look for it) is all on here. I didn't PM anyone or ask anyone a question and I got through just fine, just by reading the posts, as far back as a year.

First strip club was The Loft. Great place, hot women, I got a private dance from these 2 lesbians and it was amazing. I didn't stick around too much so I didn't see the "Boom Boom" rooms. I later went to Night Flight. Man, that was a disappointment, the girls had past their prime, they started with USD 500 to go back with me?? I looked at them and laughed, it pissed me off though so I had one drink and left to Aurora. It was almost 1 am by then and the lineup was not the best. Got talking to a guy at the bar and he told me that most girls had left or were occupied. I did find one that I couldn't pass up. Paid my 6000 for the room and my 10,000 to the girl and had a good time.

My last night I went to Penthouse. The girl selection was the best IMO. Had a few lap dances and I took this hot, heavily tattooed girl to the hotel next door. Again, the damage was 16,000 rubles and she was a firecracker. I took a shower and when I got into the room she immediately dropped to her knees and gave me a great BBBJ before going into the shower herself. What followed was a great session with all positions. Finished up and left the club hoping to return one day.

I didn't get a chance to try Vanilla massage with all the fun I was having. This must be left for another trip I suppose.

All in all, Moscow was a success. All the information that anyone needs is on this forum so stop asking stupid questions and read some posts. Thanks to all the contributors and be safe out there.

I just did read Chilaxin report.

He did have a good experience with a Mamba (Wamba) girl.

In the past members did put links from nice girls on this forum but I don't see them the last half year.

As I will be travelling to Moscow in the near future, does anybody want to put some good links from Mamba or Wamba girls on this forum?

Chilaxin, would you like to share your good experience with us?

Thanks in advance.

Has anyone tried any of the below massage salons? If yes do they provide sex?

- Massage salon Dolce Vita.

- Eroticheskiy Massazh 7*7.

One more question is where is Vanila massage? I googled it but no result as well as searching in this forum, but no location information.

[QUOTE=TravelBoy27;2059401]I just did read Chilaxin report.

Chilaxin, would you like to share your good experience with us?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Well this goes against everything I just wrote on my post about reading the forum and gathering information.

I would however still post the link for you if I had it. When I left Moscow I deleted my Mamba profile also. I don't see a point in keeping all the contacts and back and forth messages from random girls who most probably won't be around if and when I go back. The ones who are real are the ones who blur their pictures and you have to ask for permission to view their photos. You can tell they are not hardened pros and you have a chance to make some sort of connection with those girls.

Good luck!

Since some of you asked, I will post from time to time my recent Mamba girls here. The first one is Kirstina, 25 years old. She asked for 15000 Rub and I offered her 20.000 Rub for the night incl. Bareback with cum inside. She is a nice girl and was a bit hesitating since she in not on pills. If you ask nicely and treat her well, I don't think it is a problem. If you like unprotected sex, she is the right one for you. Enjoy.

[URL]https://wamba.com/mb905398386?sp=1[/URL]

Sorry to post it here. I RTFF.

Anyone recommend a real estate site for Moscow rentals?

I prefer long term in a central location. PM me or respond with links.

I have looked at quite a few sites but meh.

Grazie.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2063267]Sorry to post it here. I RTFF.

Anyone recommend a real estate site for Moscow rentals?

I prefer long term in a central location. PM me or respond with links.

I have looked at quite a few sites but meh.

Grazie.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.avito.ru/moskva/kvartiry[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cian.ru/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2059982]Has anyone tried any of the below massage salons? If yes do they provide sex?
- Massage salon Dolce Vita.
- Eroticheskiy Massazh 7*7.
One more question is where is Vanila massage? I googled it but no result as well as searching in this forum, but no location information.[/QUOTE]You may have made a major discovery! A couple of years ago there was a salon called Dolce Vita. It was one of the few (the only?) remaining reasonably priced interesting places for p4 p in Moscow (not just massage, a real brothel). It was little rough around the edges, but big selection of girls and a lot going on. Then suddenly it was closed. So the question is whether it has reappeared or whether someone has just borrowed the name. The pics I see here indicate that the new one is a proper salon (brothel), not just massage [URL]https://yandex.ru/maps/org/salon_eroticheskogo_massazha_dolce_vita/1022614296[/URL] .

7*7 I have never heard of before, but their site looks promising [URL]http://7x7-massage.ru/girls/[/URL].

Could you post some more info about the places so that we are sure we are talking about the same places?

[QUOTE=YummyPL;2063528][URL]https://www.avito.ru/moskva/kvartiry[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cian.ru/[/URL][/QUOTE]Gracie. Much appreciated.

Hi,

I'm from Canada and I'm going to Moscow tomorrow with my family for three days so I can't bring a girl to my hotel room. I want to have sex (not handjob or blow job or anything else; complete sex) what I can do? Please help.

[QUOTE=GameChanger;2065181]Hi,

I'm from Canada and I'm going to Moscow tomorrow with my family for three days so I can't bring a girl to my hotel room. I want to have sex (not handjob or blow job or anything else; complete sex) what I can do? Please help.[/QUOTE]Normally, I would tell you to RTFF. But since you're on a short time line and you're Canadian, I will make an exception. I am going to go out on a limb here and assume you don't speak Russian. If not, your best bet for on-site sex is one of the top tier strip clubs. Penthouse, The Loft, Aurora 911 or Angels. These clubs all have private rooms (suites) for sex and can accommodate your wishes.

[URL]http://clubangels.ru/[/URL]

[URL]http://penthouseclubmoscow.com/page/enter[/URL]

[URL]http://loftclub.ru/index.php?lang=en[/URL]

[URL]http://www.club-aurora.ru/[/URL]

Aurora has very few rooms so you might be taking your chances on availability. However, the other three have plenty of rooms. Just pay your entrance fee. Go to the bar or get a seat and wait for the girls to come to you. If you see one you like, ask her "Sex is possible?" (sex mozhna?) and she will tell you what's what.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2065482]Normally, I would tell you to RTFF. But since you're on a short time line and you're Canadian, I will make an exception. I am going to go out on a limb here and assume you don't speak Russian. If not, your best bet for on-site sex is one of the top tier strip clubs. Penthouse, The Loft, Aurora 911 or Angels. These clubs all have private rooms (suites) for sex and can accommodate your wishes.

[URL]http://clubangels.ru/[/URL]

[URL]http://penthouseclubmoscow.com/page/enter[/URL]

[URL]http://loftclub.ru/index.php?lang=en[/URL]

[URL]http://www.club-aurora.ru/[/URL]

Aurora has very few rooms so you might be taking your chances on availability. However, the other three have plenty of rooms. Just pay your entrance fee. Go to the bar or get a seat and wait for the girls to come to you. If you see one you like, ask her "Sex is possible?" (sex mozhna?) and she will tell you what's what.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Hello Jake,

Can you please tell us how much would be expected?

Hello?

Here is my brief reports of 2 nights in Moscow.

Peking Hotel:

- good location, not best though. Will stay again.

- Facility is just so so because it is old hotel but clean enough.

- Staffs are ok, but not very frindly.

- You can not take 2 ladies and if you want you have to pay about 300 ruble or more (not remember exactly, but it was silly amount) for the 2nd girl, whcih means you can only bring one girl into your room. I took 2 girls and the receptionist (lady) firmly rejected my entry to my room with 2 girls so I eventually had my ladies find another hotel nearby by paying about 1500 rubles and did shortime with Longtime payment.

Massages;.

- 5 massages. Ru: tried 2 branches, but could only find one branch. Went there 2 times, but had onlyy 1 session because the 1st time I went there was to see ladies and to ask if sex is possible. I took 7000 ruble program which the girl took off all the clothes and gave me some massages then HJ. I could see her pussy with 69 position. Some girls were 7 8 out of 10, but once you cum your session is done even though you still have remaining time. Overall I was satisfied with this because I did not expect that much. .

- Dolce Vita: I tried to find this place so walked around for more than 20 minutes by trying all the doors, but could not find it. I also checked the website where the building is as well as the enterance, but never found the entrance because they showed the front side building picture. After reading cucumber's posting below I now know where the entrance is. It was a waste of time and efforts.

Bars;.

Night Flight: This disco is under construction so they blocked about 2/3 of the disco area and made a new bar in 1/3 area, which is just 10 15 M long. I went to this bar 2 times for 2 days and each time there were about 10 12 girls. Few were quite beautiful and generally they were ok. Asking price is a lot higher, but never pay more than 250 USD and if you pick up late (after 2 am or 3 am) the price will go down a lot (for s / t 100 usd or a little bit more. L / T 200 would be the deal). In addition, I stuck to ruble because ruble is little bit cheaper.

As wrote above, I took 2 girls from there for 1 girl price and took them to a bar to drink and enjoy for 2-3 hours. The girls were good and I enjoyed a lot even though I spent more 150 usd for drinking. LOL;.

Visited some more bars to try to find FLs, but could not, but there are many good bars so it would be good to try.

Hotel FL;.

Cosmos: visited this hotel at 9 ish and saw only 3-5 girls in the lobby. They looked old (in their 30's or maybe 40's) and not beautiful so I left in 20 minutes.

Next time, I will go again to adventure more because this time I could not adventure enough.

To do list for next time:

[URL]http://clubangels.ru/[/URL]

[URL]http://penthouseclubmoscow.com/page/enter[/URL]

[URL]http://loftclub.ru/index.php?lang=en[/URL]

[URL]http://www.club-aurora.ru/[/URL]

[URL]https://yandex.ru/maps/org/salon_ero...ita/1022614296[/URL] . Dolce Vita.

7*7 I have never heard of before, but their site looks promising [URL]http://7x7-massage.ru/girls/.[/URL].

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2066469]Hello?

Here is my brief reports of 2 nights in Moscow.

Peking Hotel:

- good location, not best though. Will stay again.

- Facility is just so so because it is old hotel but clean enough.

- Staffs are ok, but not very frindly.

- You can not take 2 ladies and if you want you have to pay about 300 ruble or more (not remember exactly, but it was silly amount) for the 2nd girl, whcih means you can only bring one girl into your room. I took 2 girls and the receptionist (lady) firmly rejected my entry to my room with 2 girls so I eventually had my ladies find another hotel nearby by paying about 1500 rubles and did shortime with Longtime payment.

Massages;.

- 5 massages. Ru: tried 2 branches, but could only find one branch. Went there 2 times, but had onlyy 1 session because the 1st time I went there was to see ladies and to ask if sex is possible. I took 7000 ruble program which the girl took off all the clothes and gave me some massages then HJ. I could see her pussy with 69 position..[/QUOTE]You stayed at the Peking hotel, yet you didn't visit Egoist which is attached to the hotel? What is wrong with you?

[QUOTE=CastOnThis;2066614]You stayed at the Peking hotel, yet you didn't visit Egoist which is attached to the hotel? What is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]What the fuck. Damn me.

I did not know the club and even did not see it.

Hello?

Can you elaborate how the strip clubs like and how I should play if I go?

Due to google map's wrong location of Penthouse strip club, I got off the bus at nowhere and could not take another bus to go to the correct location because it was already over midnight.

I also wanted to try LE Rouge and I did not because the door girl wanted to charge 1,400 ruble for entrance and about 10,000 non-refundable deposit which I must consume.

Is it like American strip clubs that you go in and get yourself coke or beer, sit and watch the shows and if there is any girl you like then call her over to you and ask for lame lap dance with bunch of 1 $ tips?

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2066464]Hello Jake,

Can you please tell us how much would be expected?[/QUOTE]Sorry for slow reply. I am traveling.

Normally, full sex in one of these club will cost you 12,000 - 15,000 with room included. But you never know.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2066648]Hello?

Can you elaborate how the strip clubs like and how I should play if I go?[/QUOTE]Pretty much America style. Girls will come to you and offer. Typical table dance is about 500 rubles. Private dance 1500 rubles. But depends on day of the week, season, etc.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2066889]Pretty much America style. Girls will come to you and offer. Typical table dance is about 500 rubles. Private dance 1500 rubles. But depends on day of the week, season, etc.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot Jake.

Sex is quite expensive.

Rumor has it the strip clubs in Russia are the world best so wanted to try, but failed.

Expecting the next opportunity.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2066903]Thanks a lot Jake.

Sex is quite expensive.

Rumor has it the strip clubs in Russia are the world best so wanted to try, but failed.

Expecting the next opportunity.[/QUOTE]You have to think things in supply and demand. There are not a lot of beautiful women (naturally) and because Russia is a western country. The population of younger women gets smaller and smaller with each passing year. There are still rich men and these rich men are always going to be in demand. So, beautiful women go to where rich men go. And that isn't strip clubs. In strip clubs, you might find a gem, but rarely that will be the case. I'd say best strip clubs in Moscow, is Virgins, Egoist Gold, Golden girls. And with that said, the majority of girls there will not be attractive like model, but doable **** like you see in porno video. Expect no Helga lovekitty, but maybe a Kiara Diane. Good. But she is no Helga Lovekitty.

[QUOTE=CastOnThis;2067022]You have to think things in supply and demand. There are not a lot of beautiful women (naturally) and because Russia is a western country. The population of younger women gets smaller and smaller with each passing year. There are still rich men and these rich men are always going to be in demand. So, beautiful women go to where rich men go. And that isn't strip clubs. In strip clubs, you might find a gem, but rarely that will be the case. I'd say best strip clubs in Moscow, is Virgins, Egoist Gold, Golden girls. And with that said, the majority of girls there will not be attractive like model, but doable **** like you see in porno video. Expect no Helga lovekitty, but maybe a Kiara Diane. Good. But she is no Helga Lovekitty.[/QUOTE]Hello CastonThis,

Understood and actually I don't expect to see model quality level of girls. Even though there are a few model quality of girls they are strippers not models so are different.

In terms of my expectation, it is not only about the girls' quality, but also the fun from shows, atmosphere, etc.

I've been to strip clubs only 3 times so far and actually did not have that much fun and the most un-understable thing is lap dance.

What the fuck I pay for? Just have a close look at her face and covered boobs? Better have cold beers watching the strip shows.

Regarding Russian strip clubs, I don't have much expectation, but want to try to have 1st hand experience even though I am disappointed. .

By the way, all the strip clubs in Moscow have the minimum non-refundable deposit such as 10,000 ruble or higher?

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2067199]Hello CastonThis,

Understood and actually I don't expect to see model quality level of girls. Even though there are a few model quality of girls they are strippers not models so are different.

In terms of my expectation, it is not only about the girls' quality, but also the fun from shows, atmosphere, etc.

I've been to strip clubs only 3 times so far and actually did not have that much fun and the most un-understable thing is lap dance.

What the fuck I pay for? Just have a close look at her face and covered boobs? Better have cold beers watching the strip shows.

Regarding Russian strip clubs, I don't have much expectation, but want to try to have 1st hand experience even though I am disappointed. .

By the way, all the strip clubs in Moscow have the minimum non-refundable deposit such as 10,000 ruble or higher?[/QUOTE]Yes, to the last question, from my experience. So, you will like Golden Girls and Virgins the best for shows. But remember they will try to milk you out by having a large limit to sit at a table. As for the lap dance, it will depend on how you look. When I was skinny, the girls really enjoyed giving me lap dances. When I got fat, the girls were not so letting in letting me touch them. Now that I am skinny again they are more receptive.

Hello,

Intro.

I am a new Member.

47 year old male; I am the general director of my company.

I have read many of your posts / pics and am very impressed by the process and execution of your efforts in enjoying the most beautiful women in Moscow. Thank you for your information! I really appreciate it.

Last time when I was in Moscow I called an escort from the internet called Lera, who is work as independent. She is.

[URL]http://moskva.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/1-2-h-100-night-200-horny-pussy-7-926-696-83-44-anal-sex-cim-strap-on-superbusty/3781798[/URL]

She was are really nice and friendly to me and satisfied the almost all my expectations. She was very cute and quite shy, but it was nice to talk to her and her English was very good. Before starting with some action, both of us took a shower (unfortunately separated). After the shower we went the bed and had a short chat. During the chat we started to touch each other and we began to kiss. From kissing we slide into some nice oral action and ended in 69. Her taste was great and so was her BJ. We did not count the minutes, but I think it was like 30 min only oral action, before we ended up in fucking. She pushed me backwards an the started to ride me, the feeling was great. Her pussy why felt very good and was quite narrow. She was moving her hips and a way that I see could not resist any longer and filled the rubber.

After the first round we just lie on the bed relaxed a bit and had a nice conversation. After a couple of minutes the talked about some personal things in life, which lead again to some kissing action. Of course the 69 was happening again, which was again great. The second round of fucking started with some missionary, but soon we switched to doggy style. It was great to see her sweet ass and feel her pussy. After some minutes she the emand to ride me again, which I could and tO refuse. Short after she started, I was already coming as the combination of her fucking, seeing her bald little pussy and the sweet boobs was to good. Sex was awesome. Absolutely awesome.

The girl really knows how to take care of men.

[QUOTE=CastOnThis;2067366]Yes, to the last question, from my experience. So, you will like Golden Girls and Virgins the best for shows. But remember they will try to milk you out by having a large limit to sit at a table. As for the lap dance, it will depend on how you look. When I was skinny, the girls really enjoyed giving me lap dances. When I got fat, the girls were not so letting in letting me touch them. Now that I am skinny again they are more receptive.[/QUOTE]Haha. I am slim so I will expect them to allow me to touch. LOL.

Next time, I will try Golden girls and virgins. Have you ever been to The Penthouse stripclub? Due to its name, I want to try, but google reviews were not that good so I am a little bit hesitant.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2067681]Haha. I am slim so I will expect them to allow me to touch. LOL.

Next time, I will try Golden girls and virgins. Have you ever been to The Penthouse stripclub? Due to its name, I want to try, but google reviews were not that good so I am a little bit hesitant.[/QUOTE]I've been to more strip clubs than I enjoy admitting. Yes, I've been to Penthouse. Would I go again? Only if I can't make it to Virgins or egoist gold.

[QUOTE=Mng23;1982117]Date & time of session: December 20th. 13:00.

Location: Vanilia Massage by Noviy Arbat street.

Name: Maya.

Nationality & Language: Russian Girl knows about 30 words in English.

Age: 20-21.

Face: 4/5.

Body: 5/5 Perfect body. 6 ft, athletic, with long legs, and a tits and ass to die for. Simply an angel from Heaven.

Skill: 5/5 Never been happier with a massage service.

Service: 10/10 Well I've heard about this place but whoa. The lineup was world class.

This service is the best I've ever had. $100 USD for 90 minutes, model looks. 10/10 massage, 10/10 tug. If you are in Moscow and you want to relax, go here!

GFE: 5/5 full touching and fondling. Playing with ass and pussy. Showers before and after..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. So there is no full service, correct! My assumption is all Massage places offer full service.

Can't wait to visit Moscow.

WW.

What to stay in the Red square area. Is that a good idea? And what are a good option for hotels?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BigDogie;2070837]What to stay in the Red square area. Is that a good idea? And what are a good option for hotels?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hotel Metropol and Hotel National are near there. Very good place.

[QUOTE=CastOnThis;2067022]You have to think things in supply and demand. There are not a lot of beautiful women (naturally) and because Russia is a western country. The population of younger women gets smaller and smaller with each passing year. There are still rich men and these rich men are always going to be in demand. So, beautiful women go to where rich men go. And that isn't strip clubs. In strip clubs, you might find a gem, but rarely that will be the case. I'd say best strip clubs in Moscow, is Virgins, Egoist Gold, Golden girls. And with that said, the majority of girls there will not be attractive like model, but doable **** like you see in porno video. Expect no Helga lovekitty, but maybe a Kiara Diane. Good. But she is no Helga Lovekitty.[/QUOTE]Very refreshing! I had never heard of Helga lovekitty, but when someone mentions "model" attractiveness, I always expect an icy looking blond. Well, I looked up Ms. Lovekitty, and she is actually a warm looking brunette (tits are too big for my taste but oh well).

[QUOTE=CastOnThis;2067022]You have to think things in supply and demand. There are not a lot of beautiful women (naturally) and because Russia is a western country. The population of younger women gets smaller and smaller with each passing year. There are still rich men and these rich men are always going to be in demand. So, beautiful women go to where rich men go. And that isn't strip clubs. In strip clubs, you might find a gem, but rarely that will be the case. I'd say best strip clubs in Moscow, is Virgins, Egoist Gold, Golden girls. And with that said, the majority of girls there will not be attractive like model, but doable **** like you see in porno video. Expect no Helga lovekitty, but maybe a Kiara Diane. Good. But she is no Helga Lovekitty.[/QUOTE]Just my two cents, I'm using the social media to get girls in Russia, since Russian girls are using it massively, if you are lucky you will find a girl who speak english, many of them are very beautiful. But also depends if you come to Russia often and start developing good networking. As I wrote in a post here, I got very lucky and I met an ex model using different social apps (not mamba, no dating sites). I have been in strip clubs as well but never found a 9 neither 8.5. But out in the street and in specific locations like Duran Bar, Moscow city or in karaoke bars you will be able to find really good talents but again, if you don't speak at least some words of russian, your chances are very low.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=YummyPL;2071220]Very refreshing! I had never heard of Helga lovekitty, but when someone mentions "model" attractiveness, I always expect an icy looking blond. Well, I looked up Ms. Lovekitty, and she is actually a warm looking brunette (tits are too big for my taste but oh well).[/QUOTE]See, when I was in Kiev, I kept running into a Helga Lovekitty loookalike, except this one had small breasts. And I like women with small breasts, to me she was perfect. But her limited english skills lead us to nowhere, plus she kept mentioning she had a boyfriend. So yeah.

Is she more of what you like?

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/oabramovich/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/darisemenova/[/URL]

Can anyone recommend the current best strip clubs in Moscow please? Is it still the expectation to tip the girl if they give you a small dance in public area and if so what is the going rate?

[QUOTE=InTheSandpit;2071669]Can anyone recommend the current best strip clubs in Moscow please? Is it still the expectation to tip the girl if they give you a small dance in public area and if so what is the going rate?[/QUOTE]RTFF.

But because there needs to be ten characters. The best strip clubs in Moscow are egoist gold, golden girls, virgins. Now, don't tell me the girls work because they like letting you see them naked?

[QUOTE=InTheSandpit;2071669]Can anyone recommend the current best strip clubs in Moscow please? Is it still the expectation to tip the girl if they give you a small dance in public area and if so what is the going rate?[/QUOTE]This is a very subjective topic to be sure. With all due respect to the opinion of CastOnThis, I prefer Aurora 911 and Angels [URL]http://clubangels.ru/.[/URL] Table Dance is about 300 RUB depending on the girl and the night of the week and a private dance (off in a private room) can vary between 1,000 RUB and 1,500 RUB again, depending on the girl and how busy it is. What is exceptional about Angels is are the on-site facilities should you choose to participate in "extra" services.

[QUOTE=WanderTheWorld;2047771]Hi Jake,

Fantasys web site is not working, I have vpn and tried several countries to no avail. Do you still use them, if so can you share their phone number?

I have made it to charmel. I called them when I got to the place mentioned on the web site and they spoke english very well. The woman on the phone asked my name and told me to wait. I wasn't actually expecting them to speak english, that surprised me. A guy came along -well dressed and pretty normal. I told him I was hungry and he told me I can just eat in the bar next to their place which was a good english or Irish pub I think. I called him in half an hour and he took me to the apartment.

They got me into a room which was well designed but nothing spectacular. In a minute 6-7 girls came into the room and one was to my liking, I give her 9 and the others were good as well. Mostly 7-8 I'd say. There was also another I liked but I had to pick one and I went with the blonde of course. Got a towel went to shower, paid the money for 1 hour 6000 rubles. 1 Hour went by fast, with google translate, I had fun.

I'd definitely recommend this place but I'm not sure if this is high end. They send to hotels but first you have to build trust with them. I have no idea how long that takes but I'll report in the future if they send to hotel.

WTW.[/QUOTE]Since I was staying quite close to Arbat St and motivated by at WanderTheWorld I decided to call Charmel. The woman on the phone told me to wait and after some time a young guy just showed up and took me to the place. I went to Charmel 2 times in different days.

In the first day 5 girls were there. I choose the skinny blonde around hers 20. She was OK. The sex was also OK, not something remarkable but OK.

In the seconded day around 3 girls were available, all of them brunettes. This time I picked a girl around my age 27's, I think her name was Vika or something like this, anyway, she has some huge tattoos on her back which turned me on. This time the sexy was better just like I am used to have in Brazil. I will def. Try to find her the next time I travel to Moscow.

I tried to communicate with both of girls but they only knew some words. I am really worried about the mongering conditions during the world cup next year.

[QUOTE=InTheSandpit;2071669]Can anyone recommend the current best strip clubs in Moscow please? Is it still the expectation to tip the girl if they give you a small dance in public area and if so what is the going rate?[/QUOTE]I'm from Moscow. Aurora 911 is the best IMHO (they don't use aggressive consummation), for normal visit you need from 30 k (500 usd) rubles. If you need only sex, Aurora is very overpriced place. If you need only striptease (full nudity) you can left 7-10 k (if you don't buy drinks for a girls). Prices for 1 h in Moscow with girl starts from 2000 rubles (for crocodiles) end 5000-12000 rubles for model girls. Sites with real girls is dosug. Cz intimcity. NL don't worry about CZ and NL (they just can't host in Russia). From Russia you must use VPN (like opera) or browser like Puffin.

Dear comrades,

What do you think about [URL]rusprostitute.com[/URL] for moscow?

Is this scam or relatively usable?

Hi brother,

I would be in Russia next week. Can you give a good contact of pros? English speaking? It would be great help.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Mcd7777;2073881]I'm from Moscow. Aurora 911 is the best IMHO (they don't use aggressive consummation), for normal visit you need from 30 k (500 usd) rubles. If you need only sex, Aurora is very overpriced place. If you need only striptease (full nudity) you can left 7-10 k (if you don't buy drinks for a girls). Prices for 1 h in Moscow with girl starts from 2000 rubles (for crocodiles) end 5000-12000 rubles for model girls. Sites with real girls is dosug. Cz intimcity. NL don't worry about CZ and NL (they just can't host in Russia). From Russia you must use VPN (like opera) or browser like Puffin.[/QUOTE]

Just to inform you that Nightflight will be closed for renovation for some days / weeks. Reopening will be in the beginning of October best to my knowledge. I am not on facebook, so maybe members will find there some informations.

Hi Members,

I am from India and will be visiting Moscow for official purpose again. It is my second time and this time I am coming to Moscow for 2 weeks this time in September. This time I will be staying in Mosfilm hotel, Ramenki, Moscow. Wanted to understand from fellow Moscow forum members whether this hotel girl friendly or not. Is it possible to ask Girl to come to hotel room directly.

Last time I had nice time with Diana ([URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi212202.htm[/URL]). I tried to contact her again some time in August but she said she is on vacation. Now as per her profile in [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL] she is back in Moscow but she is not responding to any of my emails, sms messages, what's app messages. Sad Not sure why she is not responding. May be again not interested in meeting Indians.

Saw many profiles in [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL], their services offered and shortlisted few profiles who can speak English, have email ID or are on what's app which makes communication easier with them. Hopefully any one or two are ok to meet an Indian for outcall.

Angelika: [URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi233468.htm[/URL].

Elina: [URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi236482.htm[/URL].

Vera: [URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi240849.htm[/URL] (bit on costlier side).

Any other suggestions about hotel or anything I need to take care of is most welcome.

Thanks in advance for support to Moscow forum members.

Iceman.

[QUOTE=Iceman2007;2081531]Hi Members,
I am from India and will be visiting Moscow for official purpose again. It is my second time and this time I am coming to Moscow for 2 weeks this time in September. This time I will be staying in Mosfilm hotel, Ramenki, Moscow. Wanted to understand from fellow Moscow forum members whether this hotel girl friendly or not. Is it possible to ask Girl to come to hotel room directly.
[/QUOTE]Iceman,

You certainly have chosen an "off the beaten track" hotel. However, it's in a really nice part of Moscow. Very quiet and quite near the Moscow Golf Club if that's of any interest to you. The problem is that's it a long walk from the metro so you will need to take taxis where ever you go. But I digress. Officially, the Mosfilm Hotel is probably not girl friendly in the Western sense. In other words, if you invite a girl to come to your room, they will probably ask her to register at the front desk and show her passport. But this is no big deal. All of the working girls are quite familiar with this procedure so don't worry. I they plan to spend the night, they MAY charge you for a guest but probably not. As the name suggests, this is the historic location of MOSFILM the Soviet era state film company so there has been a lot of fucking in that hotel over the years as it was frequented by film artists so I don't think they are going to bat an eye at you want to get some Russian pussy. By the way, if you get a chance go and take a tour of the MOSFIL Museum. It's fascinating.

Good luck!

Jake.

Thanks a ton Jake for your kind words and advice. Company booked this hotel for me as it was falling in the budget company allocates for hotel accommodation, so had no choice. MOSFILM studio I did have look at I from outside. It looks very beautiful. Will plan to visit the museum. Thanks again for support and advice.

Iceman.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2083367]Iceman,

You certainly have chosen an "off the beaten track" hotel. However, it's in a really nice part of Moscow. Very quiet and quite near the Moscow Golf Club if that's of any interest to you. The problem is that's it a long walk from the metro so you will need to take taxis where ever you go. But I digress. Officially, the Mosfilm Hotel is probably not girl friendly in the Western sense. In other words, if you invite a girl to come to your room, they will probably ask her to register at the front desk and show her passport. But this is no big deal. All of the working girls are quite familiar with this procedure so don't worry. I they plan to spend the night, they MAY charge you for a guest but probably not. As the name suggests, this is the historic location of MOSFILM the Soviet era state film company so there has been a lot of fucking in that hotel over the years as it was frequented by film artists so I don't think they are going to bat an eye at you want to get some Russian pussy. By the way, if you get a chance go and take a tour of the MOSFIL Museum. It's fascinating.

Good luck!

Jake.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Iceman2007;2084351]Thanks a ton Jake for your kind words and advice. Company booked this hotel for me as it was falling in the budget company allocates for hotel accommodation, so had no choice. MOSFILM studio I did have look at I from outside. It looks very beautiful. Will plan to visit the museum. Thanks again for support and advice.

Iceman.[/QUOTE]Hi Iceman,

Please clear your message box. Your limited has been exceeded and I cannot send you a PM.

Cheers,

Jake.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2085866]Hi Iceman,

Please clear your message box. Your limited has been exceeded and I cannot send you a PM.

Cheers,

Jake.[/QUOTE]Hi Jake,

Have cleared the inbox. Many thanks.

Iceman.

I'm not used to the strip club scene and generally prefer apartments or outcalls. I've seen dosug. Cz, [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL] and intimcity. NL all recommended in various threads but not much about what is reliable, for example I can find the salon Sharm on [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL] and dosug. Cz, but they have different phone numbers. Any intel on salons like Sharm is also welcome, I know the profile for Alisa is probably fake but I have to find out.

This is their site. I think they recently changed their name: [URL]http://www.beauties-students.ru/[/URL].

Anyways, onto the report. I always make sure that I list out all the services and prices before scheduling an appointment. After all, this is a transaction. I spoke with I can only assume the person who handles all the scheduling. Through that person in WhatsApp, we agreed to services and prices. I had scheduled it for 3 hrs for the set price on the site. As the person shows up, it isn't who I requested at all. In fact, the person didn't even realize their name was incorrect when I asked (which should've been my initial tip off). In the hotel room, I started to pay but she mentioned that it would only be an hour and the services were cut short by almost half of what I originally negotiated. I showed her the messages and she then got defensive. We called her dispatch and they said that some girls negotiate prices when in the room and they can't do anything about it. This whole time, she's rubbing herself against me. In the end, I turn her away but am leaving Moscow with a sour taste in my mouth (luckily nothing Germany can't fix!

So just a word to all the fellow mongers, beware!

Thanks to all who provided info on Moscow, here is my contribution.

As mentioned before, there are no outright brothels or FKK style establishments here, closest being the strip clubs which then to be more high end. There are also many Massage and salons, but I'm not clear if its just rubbing, HJ type of places or full service. The pictures seem to suggest full service, but think you need to be able to speak Russian to get more details. Plus no one here has ever mentioned them as a good place to monger. So I chose to try the independent scene, using intimacy and rusdosug.

Firstly, you need a VPN since both are blocked. Its kinda funny that you need to be 'out of country' to get information from within the country. The main difference between the two is ease of usage, especially for non-Russian speakers.

Rusdosug has English text, and allows you to search specifically for Eng, French, Spanish speaking ladies as well as map based searches for incall. That is very useful to sift through the many offerings. Phone numbers are provided for contact, though mostly require direct phone calls, with some offering whatsapp or viber channels. A small map shows you where they are located for incalls. Somepages have reviews, but not many.

Intimacy is basically Russian text, so you need to use chrome or some other tool to directly translate the text, then try to understand the translation. Haha. But unless you are a English teacher or ocd, that won't matter too much. Again, map searches also available, though not by language capability so mostly pure Russian speakers here. Contact details also offer some with Whatsapp or viber details. There are much more reviews as well as responses from the girls, so it seems much more interactive.

I put the numbers into the phone and tried to whatsapp. A few did not respond to my english texts, found one but she rejected based on my Chinese nationality. Thought about getting a burner phone to make local calls, but I don't speak Russian so it was moot.

I managed to find a beauty Xenia, who was on her last day of her Moscow working holiday. Luckily, she answered her whatsapp in english so was able to work out the details for an incall since close to my hotel, which wasnt convenient for an outcall. Arrived at the door and she was just a bit different from the pics, though still cute as a button. (Closer examination of pics afterwards shows she mixed in someone else holiday pics, but were really lookalike).

Quick shower and onto a fantastic covered BJ, feeling her strong tongue lash my member, with deep throat and plenty of eye contact. She was a bit hasty in getting to the main event so had to slow her down to maximise my full hour booking. DATY and 69 was quickly follow, then she seemed to get really turned on and mounted me before I could react, but no complaints there, to see her lithe frame and huge silicone bouncing inches from my face. She had a full bag of tricks and knew exactly how to get the best out of any position without slowing down.

Couldn't hold it for too long, so had to flip her over to missionary so I could control the pace instead. Pumping her hard with DFK to feel that tongue again was heavenly and she made all the right sounds with orgasmic screaming and writhing limbs to get me to finish with her. It was a hot sweaty mess of exhausted bodies on that bed as she squeezed every last drop as she pounded my mouth with her tongue.

An hour well spent and back onto the cold streets on rubbery legs. And a desire to learn Russian.

Hi bro,

I am from India also. And wanted to see if you could share your experience. I have heard that a lot of girls will simply turn you down based on ethnicity. I will be visiting Moscow later this month. If you have any tips. Please do share.

[QUOTE=Iceman2007;2081531]Hi Members,

I am from India and will be visiting Moscow for official purpose again. It is my second time and this time I am coming to Moscow for 2 weeks this time in September. This time I will be staying in Mosfilm hotel, Ramenki, Moscow. Wanted to understand from fellow Moscow forum members whether this hotel girl friendly or not. Is it possible to ask Girl to come to hotel room directly.

Last time I had nice time with Diana ([URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi212202.htm[/URL]). I tried to contact her again some time in August but she said she is on vacation. Now as per her profile in [URL]rusdosug.com[/URL] she is back in Moscow but she is not responding to any of my emails, sms messages, what's app messages. Sad Not sure why she is not responding. May be again not interested in meeting Indians..[/QUOTE]

Following my adventures with Xenia, I continued my search to keep warm in this windy city. Not many independents offer Whatsapp, mostly preferring for voice calls, which is impossible for non Russian speakerss.

After a lot of failed attempts in English, I tried using Google Translate and asked in Russian. Very quickly, Aloyna (from intimcity) replied and we quickly worked out an appointment. She happened to be near my hotel for an incall in the Olympic stadium / Prospect Mira area. I did ask her about language and she said only Russian and Spanish, so I downloaded both into the app and saved a few choice words for faster communication.

The door opens and she is a lot more petite than in the photos, though very nicely porportioned. A brief greeting and into the showers. She seemed business like at this point, so not much GFE, though it is most likely due to the language barrier. But once the doors were closed and we got onto the bed, she transformed into a tigeress in heat!

A sensual cat bath with DFK before she took off the rest of her undies to show off nicely shaped breasts and a shapely hips that had just the right amount of flesh. I showed her the Translate app with my needs (slow BJ, no rushing) and she read it quickly with a shy smile. So she flipped her self over, and pulled me onto her breasts, which was literally a perfect natural mouthful with pert nipples. At the same time, she guided my hand downwards into her really tight mound as she spread her legs wide for full access. I needed no further invitation to feast upon her beautiful body.

Soon, it was her turn to return the pleasure, and boy, did she go to town on my member. Without hesitation, she deep throat until I could feel the tonsils! She truly was a specialist and I had to slow her down (by pulling out my phone to type the words! Haha) before the main event. She giggled and was very accommodating, changing positions and rhythms for maximum pleasure.

I flipped back into missionary to start and to my surprise, she didn't even reach for lube, which is almost a given for many at this stage. She was as tight as her lithe frame suggests, and she had a skill to arch her back, while stretching her legs and feet to lock at my shoulders or hips for maximum effect. Through all this, her face in ecstasy and the right amount of grunts intepersed with half gasps and laboured breaths was an aural complement to the physical pleasures as our bodies moved in sensual unison.

There were surprising moments as well- after doggy, I wanted her to get on top, but my gestures were obviously not clear as she quickly popped my member back into her mouth and continued to use her mouth to devastating effect. Again, in my experience, this rarely happens without a change of cap. I grunted so loudly, she actually thought I had finished! But when I indicated I still had miles to run, she quickly smiled and quickly got on top to grind away. That's a sight I will not be forgetting for a while.

She could clearly sense when the peak was to be released and I could feel her own body tensed up as she used all her Kegel expertise to grip me while moaning into my ear and kept pumping me even when I had exhausted myself into the hat. Another sweaty mash of hair, heaving chests and spent limbs. A quick cleanup and she helped me up into the bathroom. By the time, I got cleaned up, she turned business-like again. Again, I'm hoping its just the language as I will very likely RTF if she is still around on my next trip.

A gem not to be missed.

[URL]https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=267509[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bigbird747;2092700]Following my adventures with Xenia, I continued my search to keep warm in this windy city. Not many independents offer Whatsapp, mostly preferring for voice calls, which is impossible for non Russian speakerss.

A gem not to be missed.

[URL]https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=267509[/URL][/QUOTE]Great report BB. Thanks for sharing.

Hi fellas!

Finally reached out for here.

Visiting Moscow from time to time for business occasions.

Used to go to all-inclusive strip clubs, but got tired of spending around 500 $ per intercourse (including entrance fee, drinks, etc.) for quite an ordinary experience.

So I recently opened for myself the world of Moscow erotic massage.

As I booked a hotel close to Lubyanka, at first we cheered up at Dream bar which is on Myasnitskaya str. And then my local friends invited me for a continuation.

The Massage place name is "Center", it is in the walking distance from Kitay Gorod or Chistie Prudy metro stations.

8 beauties showed up, chose an 1,5 h program with 2 girls for! 7000 rubles (100 $), champagne went for free.

Enjoyed 2 endings, could touch them everywhere, but no "penetration" was permitted. Room was a little bit tidy, but comfy.

The Place also had a hammam bath, so you may relax there, but I decided not to take it this time.

Center's web-site, if you decide to follow my lead: [URL]http://erotik-centr.ru[/URL].

Would recommend the Place and erotic massage clubs in general.

I would like to join gangbang in Moscow. Anybody who has experience with this?

On Wamba this girl told me she is looking for gangbang.

[URL]https://www.mamba.ru/mb1748139485.[/URL] If you tried her already or meet her in future, please let us know the result of you meeting?

I have never posted on here, however I am doing so now to make people aware of a Tinder scam I suffered from recently in Saint Petersburg. Whilst it happened in SPB, I am sure similar things happen in Moscow also so please be careful when using any online dating platform in Russia!

Basically, I met a woman on Tinder back in June who I was chatting with for some time and then I arranged to meet her on Nevsky Avenue for a drink one evening. She took me to a place called the Secret Service Pub on Nevsky Avenue. I immediately grew suspicious upon entering this bar as it was only around 7 pm and the place was quiet yet it had 1 or 2 security guys on the door, plus my instinct was telling me that the staff there knew my "Date" without any of them actually acknowledging each other, and in addition there were a couple of attractive girls sat at the bar alone. Even though I had these instincts, I still stayed as I had never heard of people being scammed in this way in Russia, or anywhere else for that matter and I am very well travelled. Anyway, the Date kept wanting to go into a separate closed off Karaoke area of the venue which I wasn't too keen on as I had not even had a drink yet that day, and when the menu arrived to order she wanted to order a bottle of wine that was priced around £80 and some kind of meat tray which again seemed somewhat overpriced after the meat tray arrived as it was very basic, however I had not been in Russia too long at that point so I was not aware of what the prices for things should generally be also. I refused to pay for the wine and asked her to order another drink instead, so she opted for a cocktail (which I did not see the price of) and the meat tray, whilst I order a reasonably priced beer for myself. I was getting a bad feeling about the bar still, so I told her I wanted to go somewhere else midway through my first drink, however she was quite insistent that she wanted to stay in this bar. I managed to persuade her to leave after a while, and when presented with the bill it came to something like $80 which I thought was highly excessive but which I felt I had to pay as we had consumed the items. After checking the reviews of this bar on Google some time after, it was clear other people had had a similar experience to me and that this bar was clearly a scam bar. Anyway, after leaving that bar, the Date wanted to go to another bar just a few doors up from the Secret Service Pub, which again looked quite empty and ominous so I refused and instead we carried on walking up the road until I found a bar that was quite busy and looked safe. She was reluctant to go in, but I managed to persuade her saying we would just go to this bar for a couple of drinks. Anyway, when we got in there her attitude completely changed and she began constantly playing with her phone, and after 15 or so minutes two of her friends showed up and I then even get a worse feeling about events and made my excuses and left.

So after a couple more drinks on my own, I went back onto Tinder and started chatting with another girl who, quite quickly, agreed to meet me that night. I had had a few drinks by this stage so I wasn't thinking straight, as there should have been alarm bells ringing as it was around 10 pm at that point on a week day night (not the weekend) and she agreed to meet me after not such a substantial degree of conversation. Anyway, she asked if she could bring a friend, which I didn't mind, and then also asked if I would pay her taxi, which when I asked her how much, she quoted something in the region of £12. Going on UK rates, I didn't think £12 was too much so I agreed to pay it, however after later learning the taxi rates in Saint Petersburg I know that £12 is highly excessive and that taxi's do not cost that much even if you are going from the centre to the airport. Anyway, when my second "Date" showed, her and her friend seemed really nice and I did not have any suspicions this time around. They asked me if I liked Karaoke and so off we all went to a Karaoke bar (which was called Granada Bar on Stremyannaya Ul. 4 according to my credit card receipts from the night). So when we entered this place the girls wanted to order a bottle of champagne, which again seemed highly overpriced (around 5,000 Russian Rubles from memory), however I agreed to pay for just the one bottle to start things off with the intention of then going on to something cheaper as I was well aware of the expensive pricing. But after the first bottle, the waitress kept coming back and I kept ordering this clearly overpriced champagne, even though I was well aware from the first bottle that it was overpriced, which leads me to believe that the waitress must have put something in my drink to make me more suggestive to keep paying for such low quality overpriced champagne (or one of the two girls put something in my drink, either way it was apparent afterwards that both the two girls and the venue were in on this deceptive scam), and the venue even charged an excessive amount for each Karaoke song (I have been to quite a few Karaoke bars around the world and have never been charged per song for Karaoke) and also charged excessive prices for Sheisha, which again I knew was highly overpriced yet I kept paying which leads me further to believe that I was drugged in some way. You were even allowed to smoke cigarettes sat at your seat in this Karaoke bar, which should have raised alarm bells also given that smoking in bars appears to be banned at all the other bars I have been to in Saint Petersburg previous to this bar. Anyway, I cannot remember leaving the bar at the end of the night, however counting my credit card receipts up the next day including the money I took out with me that night, I spent a total in the region of $1,500 (in hindsight it was very stupid to take credit cards out with me that night but I was hungover from the previous night and not thinking straight). The bizarre thing was, that second Date was messaging me the next day asking if I wanted to go out again with her! When I questioned the pricing from the night before she said that was "normal", however we all know that type of spending on a night out is not "normal" for most people! Again, after checking the reviews of this Karaoke bar on google other people have had the same type of scam experience at that place.

Anyway, in summary, I did not report any of this to the police as there did not seem any point as I would not be able to claim such "theft" on my travel insurance and, as I am sure you know, the police have a reputation for being very corrupt in Russia.

Stay safe people!

[QUOTE=Jake993;2092847]Great report BB. Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]I concur with Jake, thanks BB for the super article and posting the link so as to point us mongers in the right direction.

Cheers,

FunkySexy.

Hi fellow punters,

I got much interested in Moscow's salon culture (never been experienced in Moscow).

Can anyone chime in their experience in salon?

Is it safe for foreigners and also all night. Any restrictions?

What can you do in Salon?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Coyle;2113140]Hi fellow punters,

I got much interested in Moscow's salon culture (never been experienced in Moscow).

Can anyone chime in their experience in salon?

Is it safe for foreigners and also all night. Any restrictions?

What can you do in Salon?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Salons in Moscow are a little less common than in SPB in my experience. Moscow seems to favor the facade of the "Massage Salon" rather than the straight up knocking shop. However, for the few that there are, the procedure is quite simple. You call ahead, give them your name and arrange to be at a designated location. Often at a bar or in front of an ATM machine on the street if the weather is not too bad. A "representative" of the establishment comes over and asks if your name is "John Doe" and then leads you back to the place. In Moscow the places are never advertised openly. Until recently, the representative normally did not speak anything but Russian, nor did the lady on the other end of the phone so if you did not speak Russian, you were stuffed. However, it seems that these service providers are starting to get staff that speaks little English.

But once inside, these establishments are first class. Clean and fresh with nice clean bathrooms and showers. And very safe from a personal security standpoint. Very discreet. These are usually 7 x24 operations. I have called at 4:00 AM and been able to arrange a rendezvous.

I don't know whether that's of interest for some of you but I live in Moscow and have access to free passes to some of the strip clubs. More precisely, I can hook you up with free entry to Aurora, Hunters, Penthouse, Angels, 911 and Loft. If someone's interested, shoot me a message I guess.

Also happy to help with any other questions regarding Moscow. Pay for play is personally not my thing but I've been living here for over two years and speak Russian fluently, so maybe I can be of help.

Hi,

Couldn't send you private message I guess you are not paid member. I will visit Moscow on Feb, and may need some help to make some appointments (most providers don't accept SMS) since I don't speak Russian at all. I can buy you some drinks or pay you fees whichever you like.

[QUOTE=MscNightGuide;2114464]I don't know whether that's of interest for some of you but I live in Moscow and have access to free passes to some of the strip clubs. More precisely, I can hook you up with free entry to Aurora, Hunters, Penthouse, Angels, 911 and Loft. If someone's interested, shoot me a message I guess.

Also happy to help with any other questions regarding Moscow. Pay for play is personally not my thing but I've been living here for over two years and speak Russian fluently, so maybe I can be of help.[/QUOTE]

Guys,

I need your help. "Hotel Tverskaya 12" allows girls to enter to room? Or, Do you know reasonable price girl-friendly hotel on Tverskaya street in Moscow?

This is first time to visit to Russian for me. So. I plan to bring a girl from Night Flight-or-Karaoke club or to call a girl from "[URL]rusdosug.com[/URL]". I will report later. So, please help me.

Thanks in advance.

Ah yes, just checked, that's unfortunately only available after 6 months. What a shame.

I didn't quite understand what the forum policy is and whether it would be OK for me to add me to add my site to the classified ads or whether that's for the ladies only. It is much less a business than an information resource, Google will also help you if you search for Moscow and some of the words in my name.

[QUOTE=Ytzk0;2114635]Guys,

I need your help. "Hotel Tverskaya 12" allows girls to enter to room? Or, Do you know reasonable price girl-friendly hotel on Tverskaya street in Moscow?

This is first time to visit to Russian for me. So. I plan to bring a girl from Night Flight-or-Karaoke club or to call a girl from "[URL]rusdosug.com[/URL]". I will report later. So, please help me.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Not to sound like a "know-it-all" but non-girl friendly hotels in Moscow are all but a thing of the past. Worst case, you may be asked to register your guest and MAY have to pay a small guest charge. But you don't need to worry. Just March up to your room with your girl like you own the place. Being a newly opened hotel, Tverskaya 12 probably won't bat an eye. If they object, security may stop you at the lift. If they do, just let the girl do the talking. She'll figure out what "fee" needs to be paid. With World Cup fast approaching, Russian hotels know that this is all part of the "hospitality".
Enjoy

Hi all,

Had a trip to StP last year and found that mongering was easy for upper and high class Escorts but the price was very high. Thinking of Moscow now and done some searches on Escorts in Moscow. But how likely is it that the girl in the pic is the girl that knocks on your door. For example this site [URL]http://rusprostitute.com/index.php?city=msk[/URL]. Anyone with experience?

Next to the Cosmos Hotel sits the Globus Hotel, where lower income Russians stay. In Room 99 is a massage salon, so I went over. I was presented a lineup of 3 ladies, and a cost of 3000 rubles, which is about $55. I was led into a small room with a large bed and told to take a shower. After that, there was a light massage by a naked lady. The lady was classic Russian, in her 30's, no English. After a steady diet of Thai, some Russian was appreciated.

After an extended tit massage all over my body, she commenced with a HJ.

After the HJ came a standard massage. In other words, it was backwards.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2117637]Not to sound like a "know-it-all" but non-girl friendly hotels in Moscow are all but a thing of the past. Worst case, you may be asked to register your guest and MAY have to pay a small guest charge. But you don't need to worry. Just March up to your room with your girl like you own the place. Being a newly opened hotel, Tverskaya 12 probably won't bat an eye. If they object, security may stop you at the lift. If they do, just let the girl do the talking. She'll figure out what "fee" needs to be paid. With World Cup fast approaching, Russian hotels know that this is all part of the "hospitality".
Enjoy[/QUOTE]Jakers993,

Thank you for your help. Fortunately, entrance to hotel with a girl was successful without any problems nor extra money.

At last, I chose Night Flight around 1 o'clock and picked up a girl. No customers except me. It was run down sense in spite of in city center. Unfortunately, I couldn't find out girls. There were only around 30 years ladies and looks were average.

My total score was 8/10, the girl: 7/10 - height was high and style was enough boob and good proportion but face was average and not my type. Not old but the face having a child. But she was very kind and attacked me aggressively in good meaning though her English was very poor. The price: 10/10, 15000 RUB all night. The service: 8/10, OWO- 10/10, atmosphere - 10/10 - she was enjoying sex with me perfectly and aggressively, it was very wet without any business consideration and she came 3 times. There weren't NGs except protected sex, of course, kissing was so natural without any negotiation. I don't know if she was exceptional or not. If Russian ladies' manner in Moscow was like her, I would come again.

[QUOTE=MscNightGuide;2114464]I don't know whether that's of interest for some of you but I live in Moscow and have access to free passes to some of the strip clubs. More precisely, I can hook you up with free entry to Aurora, Hunters, Penthouse, Angels, 911 and Loft. If someone's interested, shoot me a message I guess.

Also happy to help with any other questions regarding Moscow. Pay for play is personally not my thing but I've been living here for over two years and speak Russian fluently, so maybe I can be of help.[/QUOTE]You can be my wingman on my next trip to Moscow which is in the beginning of next month. Last time I had a dxb girl who was from Moscow with me who was my wingiie and we went to many clubs, this time I want go more crazy clubs, swinger clubs, gang bang clubs, BDSM dens. Life is to enjoy are you game for it mate.

Spassiba Bolshoi.

Hey.

MscNightGuide;2114464.

Be a full member so we can send you messages.

[QUOTE=MscNightGuide;2114464]I don't know whether that's of interest for some of you but I live in Moscow and have access to free passes to some of the strip clubs. More precisely, I can hook you up with free entry to Aurora, Hunters, Penthouse, Angels, 911 and Loft. If someone's interested, shoot me a message I guess.

Also happy to help with any other questions regarding Moscow. Pay for play is personally not my thing but I've been living here for over two years and speak Russian fluently, so maybe I can be of help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MscNightGuide;2114464]I don't know whether that's of interest for some of you but I live in Moscow and have access to free passes to some of the strip clubs. More precisely, I can hook you up with free entry to Aurora, Hunters, Penthouse, Angels, 911 and Loft. If someone's interested, shoot me a message I guess.

Also happy to help with any other questions regarding Moscow. Pay for play is personally not my thing but I've been living here for over two years and speak Russian fluently, so maybe I can be of help.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Been doing a hellofalot of googling. Is strip clubs also double working as brothels? I mean how likely is it to make an appointment with the girl for later on or in the private rooms?

[QUOTE=Ytzk0;2123168]Jakers993,

Thank you for your help. Fortunately, entrance to hotel with a girl was successful without any problems nor extra money.

At last, I chose Night Flight around 1 o'clock and picked up a girl. No customers except me. It was run down sense in spite of in city center. Unfortunately, I couldn't find out girls. There were only around 30 years ladies and looks were average.

My total score was 8/10, the girl: 7/10 - height was high and style was enough boob and good proportion but face was average and not my type. Not old but the face having a child. But she was very kind and attacked me aggressively in good meaning though her English was very poor. The price: 10/10, 15000 RUB all night. The service: 8/10, OWO- 10/10, atmosphere - 10/10 - she was enjoying sex with me perfectly and aggressively, it was very wet without any business consideration and she came 3 times. There weren't NGs except protected sex, of course, kissing was so natural without any negotiation. I don't know if she was exceptional or not. If Russian ladies' manner in Moscow was like her, I would come again.[/QUOTE]When I was in Moscow this summer night flight was such a disaster as me being the only customer there and all women but its so dark you cannot know who is who but it was blessing in disguise two women joined me at the bar and then they took me to OBLAKA what a place music food alcohol women crazy place absolutely amazing. Need to find more clubs like that in Moscow where you have amazing women typical Russian beauties.

Can't wait to go back again.

[QUOTE=Ytzk0;2123168]Jakers993,

Thank you for your help. Fortunately, entrance to hotel with a girl was successful without any problems nor extra money.

At last, I chose Night Flight around 1 o'clock and picked up a girl. No customers except me. It was run down sense in spite of in city center. Unfortunately, I couldn't find out girls. There were only around 30 years ladies and looks were average.

My total score was 8/10, the girl: 7/10 - height was high and style was enough boob and good proportion but face was average and not my type. Not old but the face having a child. But she was very kind and attacked me aggressively in good meaning though her English was very poor. The price: 10/10, 15000 RUB all night. The service: 8/10, OWO- 10/10, atmosphere - 10/10 - she was enjoying sex with me perfectly and aggressively, it was very wet without any business consideration and she came 3 times. There weren't NGs except protected sex, of course, kissing was so natural without any negotiation. I don't know if she was exceptional or not. If Russian ladies' manner in Moscow was like her, I would come again.[/QUOTE]Dear Ytzk0,

So happy to hear that you had a positive experience in Moscow in the end. You guys are right, NF has slipped badly. But with so many hot horny regular girls in Moscow it's almost pointless to go to a place like NF. And with each passing year, their English skills have improved markedly.

Enjoy!!

[QUOTE=ChrilleSweden;2123838]Hi,

Been doing a hellofalot of googling. Is strip clubs also double working as brothels? I mean how likely is it to make an appointment with the girl for later on or in the private rooms?[/QUOTE]To answer your question directly, the answer is basically "yes".

However, the availability of girls who are offering sex in addition to regular private dances and the facilities themselves vary dramatically from club to club. It is quite unlikely that you be able to make an appointment with a girl in advance. You basically have to show up and take your chances. PM me if you would like more details.

Cheers,

Jake.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;2123935]When I was in Moscow this summer night flight was such a disaster as me being the only customer there and all women but its so dark you cannot know who is who but it was blessing in disguise two women joined me at the bar and then they took me to OBLAKA what a place music food alcohol women crazy place absolutely amazing. Need to find more clubs like that in Moscow where you have amazing women typical Russian beauties.

Can't wait to go back again.[/QUOTE]Alex,

When are you back? I am in Moscow now but leaving today for Dubai for a few weeks. Bars and clubs have been basically dead over the New Year holidays. Which is ok because I've been shacked up with my Russian GF! Weather has been ridiculously warm this year. It was actually RAINING on Tverskaya at midnight!

Poka!

[QUOTE=James006;2123623]Hey.

MscNightGuide;2114464.

Be a full member so we can send you messages.[/QUOTE]Did so, hit me up.

[QUOTE=ChrilleSweden;2123838]Hi,

Been doing a hellofalot of googling. Is strip clubs also double working as brothels? I mean how likely is it to make an appointment with the girl for later on or in the private rooms?[/QUOTE]As someone said, yes pretty much. Have a guide on strip clubs on my site, PM me for the link. But no appointments, that's correct.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;2123489]You can be my wingman on my next trip to Moscow which is in the beginning of next month. Last time I had a dxb girl who was from Moscow with me who was my wingiie and we went to many clubs, this time I want go more crazy clubs, swinger clubs, gang bang clubs, BDSM dens. Life is to enjoy are you game for it mate.

Spassiba Bolshoi.[/QUOTE]We can probably arrange that, PM me.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2124305]To answer your question directly, the answer is basically "yes".

However, the availability of girls who are offering sex in addition to regular private dances and the facilities themselves vary dramatically from club to club. It is quite unlikely that you be able to make an appointment with a girl in advance. You basically have to show up and take your chances. PM me if you would like more details.

Cheers,

Jake.[/QUOTE]Hello Jake,

Cheers! Made a list of clubs to visit. Have to get a fish on the hook somewhere Staying 2 nights in May. Driving there on my bike to visit Kubrinka so first night trying to find some Escort and second night try some clubs. Escorts is a bit worrying though since I believe the most Pictures are fake but. Had same trouble in Stp but the girl who showed up was equally good looking with nice plastic tits so I didn't complain.

Talked to a friend that asked to buy Viagra for him in Russia in my pending trip (vll stocked myself but for my own use). Is it prescription I Russia or as in Egypt, Turkey and so in without prescription?

Following my earlier adventures (thanks for the support) in the Land of Putin, I find myself back again to satiate my taste for Russian lovelies.

I use again the 2 wonderful websites of rusodog and intimcity and spent hours combing through the pics. Those who have used these sites will understand how addictive it is. This time however, reinforces that I was just plain lucky on my last trip. To recap, to first find English speakers and that both were near where I was staying.

Not being a native Russian speaker, calling them were out of the question, so I had to find those who could communicate thru Whatsapp. Yes, SMS was possible but I did not have local coverage. Not many actually used WA, which is evident once you save their number into your phone, (WA linked profiles should appear).

As a result, I had to simply salivate at the many ladies whose tongue I was unable to speak. Still, luck favours the prepared. Or in this case, the horny desperate insomniac staring into the twin screens of the laptop and his phone hope for the green circles to light up deep into the cold Russian night.

Finally, I come across Katrina, a lovely young lass who did only incalls. I fumbled a quick Russian greeting using Translate (thanks Google!) and after a series of messages, during which she "insulted" my bad Russian (Damn you Google!) but was kind enough to switch to English (Hooray! . Of course, my polite yet ultimately desperate-sounding begging and pleading finally convinces her to grant me a session.

She appears right on time and the door reveals a blonde bombshell of 19-20 years that looked as advertised, though with a few pounds added on. She flashed a warm smile to melt the snow off the mountains and walks in as my blood drains downwards. Then she reveals that while she reads and writes English well enough, she doesn't actually speak or understand!! So out comes each other's Translate (buy Google stock. Seriously) and a quick conversation ensues for small talk.

Her ad says she just started working a few months ago and the "inexperience" clearly shows, not in a bad way and definitely a refreshing approach from the more "business-like" long timers. A BBBJ with lots of tongue and eye contact required a bit of coaching from my Translate app. Kind of irritating to stop the action as she read my instructions but a quick smile and she changed what she was doing incorrectly. It was certainly one of the better BJs I had in terms of technique.

I soon flipped her over and start DATY. And boy did she get a kick out of that. I thrust a finger into her already moist mound and she suddenly stopped me. (oops, not allowed? She gestured two fingers! I did as commanded and she started gyrating against my tongue, pulling apart her labia to reveal the prize. No translation required.

I'm not sure who enjoyed the foreplay more and she forcefully pulled my hair into her groin as her thighs squeezed my head even further down. Her moans grew louder as she arched her back and squeezed her own breasts in rhythm of my lashing tongue (did I mention she has the perfect pink nipples?

I did my best to give her some satisfaction and after some minor asphyxiation, decided to go for the main event. She lifts her legs straight over my shoulders for maximum penetration and she was so ready, no lube was required. We pounded away in missionary before I flipped her over and she definitely took some lessons in horse riding! It was indeed a sight to behold as the afternoon streamed over her lush blonde hair tossed over my face and a soft moaning entered my ears.

The rhythmic thrusting soon took its toll and she collapsed on top, our spent sweaty bodies entwined in ecstasy as she held me tight with our breaths still in sequence. Alas, my rubles could only hold her for so long and she bade me a sweet farewell with a promise to always answer my future WA.

On rubbery legs and a familiar scent from my fingers, I share this with you my friends. Learn Russian as soon as you can!

[QUOTE=ChrilleSweden;2125367]Talked to a friend that asked to buy Viagra for him in Russia in my pending trip (vll stocked myself but for my own use). Is it prescription I Russia or as in Egypt, Turkey and so in without prescription?[/QUOTE]You can buy original Viagra, Cialis (better IMHO), Levitra in any Pharmacy. Anywhere, no prescriptions at all.

IT.

Good to hear that you have an amazing experience with Katrina in Moscow.

Can I have her contact / weblink as well? I cannot Google it based on Moscow+Katrina+escort, thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=Bigbird747;2127290]Following my earlier adventures (thanks for the support) in the Land of Putin, I find myself back again to satiate my taste for Russian lovelies.

I use again the 2 wonderful websites of rusodog and intimcity and spent hours combing through the pics. Those who have used these sites will understand how addictive it is. This time however, reinforces that I was just plain lucky on my last trip. To recap, to first find English speakers and that both were near where I was staying.

Not being a native Russian speaker, calling them were out of the question, so I had to find those who could communicate thru Whatsapp. Yes, SMS was possible but I did not have local coverage. Not many actually used WA, which is evident once you save their number into your phone, (WA linked profiles should appear).

As a result, I had to simply salivate at the many ladies whose tongue I was unable to speak. Still, luck favours the prepared. Or in this case, the horny desperate insomniac staring into the twin screens of the laptop and his phone hope for the green circles to light up deep into the cold Russian night.

Finally, I come across Katrina, a lovely young lass who did only incalls. I fumbled a quick Russian greeting using Translate (thanks Google!) and after a series of messages, during which she "insulted" my bad Russian (Damn you Google!) but was kind enough to switch to English (Hooray! . Of course, my polite yet ultimately desperate-sounding begging and pleading finally convinces her to grant me a session.

She appears right on time and the door reveals a blonde bombshell of 19-20 years that looked as advertised, though with a few pounds added on. She flashed a warm smile to melt the snow off the mountains and walks in as my blood drains downwards. Then she reveals that while she reads and writes English well enough, she doesn't actually speak or understand!! So out comes each other's Translate (buy Google stock. Seriously) and a quick conversation ensues for small talk.[/QUOTE]

I want to confirm that Rusdosug is the best resource. I've found incredible girls there (Diana is one of my favorite. She shows in the first girls) but I always fancy greener pastures.

All that to say that I'm also curious about Katrina but I have seen anoone matching on Rusdosug or intimcity. On which site is she? What is the name she uses, Katrina?

Cheers!

Hi gentlemen!

We are 3 French friends reaching Moscow on 7 April till the 10.

We booked a suite at Savoy hotel.

2 questions:

Is it possible to bring 3 girls in our room without problems?

Are some girls hanging around in the lobby hotel?

By the way, following the advice of this fantastic site, I tried Rusdosug and intimcity to prepare the journey.

I watsap 2 girls, and they answer quiet quickly and sent a lot of pictures with rate: 15 000 rb two hours anal vaginal and covered BJ. Sounds cheap. I will ask for some extra et will tell you.

Thank you very much.

P.S: don't be rude with my poor English!

Yes I can hardly believe it myself, my last visit to the Mother Land was 24 years ago. 3 trips to Moscow with sampling of a few girls, yep almost a quarter of a century ago.

I now spend so much time in South America and being 24 years older and on the other side of the world I don't see me ever making my way back to Moscow. You all are doing a good job of caring for these Russian beauties.

TTM.

I can't comment on the Savoy, I've never been there. An expensive hotel where I stayed once wanted the girl to give her passport. I think they thought she was an addition to the room. I just went down and picked the girl, straight to my room, just as a visitor.

Then, yes, 15000 rb might sound cheap but this is on the high side. You can easily find 8000-10000 for 2 hours. And by the way, most of these ladies will do BBBJ w / o additional charge. Now, 3 girls for 3 men is probably a different price. If you expect to rotate then you need to make it very clear to the girls or they will just leave. A rotation / group party would definitely be something different from 1 girl each, each in 1 room. Some might not agree at all that there is another working girl in the suite. I recommend to make your plan absolutely clear to the girl so that there is no surprise and you can enjoy the party.

[QUOTE=JohnKen;2133507]I can't comment on the Savoy, I've never been there. An expensive hotel where I stayed once wanted the girl to give her passport. I think they thought she was an addition to the room. I just went down and picked the girl, straight to my room, just as a visitor.

Then, yes, 15000 rb might sound cheap but this is on the high side. You can easily find 8000-10000 for 2 hours. And by the way, most of these ladies will do BBBJ w / o additional charge. Now, 3 girls for 3 men is probably a different price. If you expect to rotate then you need to make it very clear to the girls or they will just leave. A rotation / group party would definitely be something different from 1 girl each, each in 1 room. Some might not agree at all that there is another working girl in the suite. I recommend to make your plan absolutely clear to the girl so that there is no surprise and you can enjoy the party.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for this accurate advice!

We don't want any trouble with the girls. Our Moscow trip is build around a Raimbow concert and sexfun is just an extra option.

Eventually we'll probably just go in a massage salon for enjoying Russian beauty in a happy ending massage.

Many of you talk about the Vanilia salon, who look great on the website.

Some confirmation?

[QUOTE=JohnKen;2131802]I want to confirm that Rusdosug is the best resource. I've found incredible girls there (Diana is one of my favorite. She shows in the first girls) but I always fancy greener pastures.

All that to say that I'm also curious about Katrina but I have seen anoone matching on Rusdosug or intimcity. On which site is she? What is the name she uses, Katrina?

Cheers![/QUOTE]Agree that Rusdosug is the best resource to find real escort and avoids wasting many time on search and against fakes. Diana is my best experience, cute, hot body, easy going attitude, lovely talk and important speaking English fluently. She fulfilled every my expectation in this cold winter at Moscow far from home. Katrina, have no knowledge, sorry friend.

Diana.

[URL]http://a.rusdosug.com/indi212202.htm[/URL]

[URL]http://a.rusdosug.com/indi247969.htm[/URL]

Well, after few watsapp I decided to book those 2 girls for 7 April.

We agree a 800 euros session, including full sex (except anal.) BBBJ, lesbian show with toys, groupsex with my 2 friends and I, dinner, from 9 pm to 9 am, outcalling in Savoy.

The girls wanted to add a girlfriend but she was not making BBBJ, so I declined.

They seems funny and quiet naughty with an acceptable level of English (hahaha).

We planed together to make a surprise for my 2 friends, they agree to play the role of "random Russian hot babes not hooker at all" and they said finding it funny and exciting.

As far, it's pleasant to have Watsap dialogue with them.

We will see what's happend in the end!

Hi fellows,

Let me know who is interested in joining me for an MFM or MFMF action. I already have some contacts of girls willing to engage for a 'girt') So let's have some fun in this cold winter period.

I'm sure you will have a lot of fun! I think the price is OK, that's a full night with 2 girls for 3 men. Not many girls do that, but that's a lot of money for them. They indeed look naughty (I like that) but I'd be cautious and request a face picture on WhatsApp. Just to make sure they are to your taste. One of them seems to have a "permanent duck face" that could be beyond my limit.

They should not refuse to send a face picture but if they do refuse I would decline their offer.

[QUOTE=Bardam;2137343][URL]http://a.rusdosug.com/indi247969.htm[/URL]

Well, after few watsapp I decided to book those 2 girls for 7 April.

We agree a 800 euros session, including full sex (except anal.) BBBJ, lesbian show with toys, groupsex with my 2 friends and I, dinner, from 9 pm to 9 am, outcalling in Savoy.

The girls wanted to add a girlfriend but she was not making BBBJ, so I declined.

They seems funny and quiet naughty with an acceptable level of English (hahaha).

We planed together to make a surprise for my 2 friends, they agree to play the role of "random Russian hot babes not hooker at all" and they said finding it funny and exciting.

As far, it's pleasant to have Watsap dialogue with them.

We will see what's happend in the end![/QUOTE]

I see lots of guys asking about strip clubs vs Craig's list versus whatever. I only have perspective on the strips and there is quite a lot of variation. Personally, if you have the money, I find the right Russian strips to be one of the great worldwide experiences. What I mean by "right" is if you are after an hour of great FS, there are better places (German FKK for one) but if you like spending 4-8 hours in a strip club, followed by a strong finish by a pretty girl, then Russia is tops.

Golden Girls and Zazhigalka -- these are both great clubs for pretty girls and hooka and hot lap dances with good contact. Mostly above the waist in my experience. Golden Girls are probably prettier but Zazhigalka is great for a wild time. I spent a couple hours with two girls and drinks and hookah and nude a lot of the time and had a great time. But no on site finishing.

Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse- these all have pretty girls and option to finish on site. The basic routine is of course stage and pole dancing, but the girls come around one by one and dance naked in your lap, with ability to sample their tits. You are only expected to tip like R200, which is the cheapest lap dance in the world. Of course it is marketing for you to take them off the market. When you find one you like, you pay the bar R5000 ish and the girl R10,000 ish. And then the room might be $100. So it is not exactly cheap, but it's a great way to release all that tension you've built up. The rooms can vary a bit. The suite we got at Penthouse was epic! ($150 I think). I don't know about Aurora or Angels, but at Penthouse they will still bring drinks and food to your room while you do Karaoke in various stages of undress. Spectacular.

Rasputin- total waste of money. Nothing like the jamming website. Uninspired girls. Don't touch there. Boo!

Night Flight. I give this a mixed review. It is nothing like the website. There is no party going on. It is a dimly lit little bar with a few girls. That said, I took one home for $300 and two pops. She was a little older. Late thirties. But still hot and knew her way around the bedroom. So I think this is a YMMV drastically kind of place. You could swing by and if nothing catches your eye, just head on elsewhere. I was glad I made a visit though.

[QUOTE=DanMan9696;2139786]I see lots of guys asking about strip clubs vs Craig's list versus whatever. I only have perspective on the strips and there is quite a lot of variation. Personally, if you have the money, I find the right Russian strips to be one of the great worldwide experiences. What I mean by "right" is if you are after an hour of great FS, there are better places (German FKK for one) but if you like spending 4-8 hours in a strip club, followed by a strong finish by a pretty girl, then Russia is tops.

Golden Girls and Zazhigalka -- these are both great clubs for pretty girls and hooka and hot lap dances with good contact. Mostly above the waist in my experience. Golden Girls are probably prettier but Zazhigalka is great for a wild time. I spent a couple hours with two girls and drinks and hookah and nude a lot of the time and had a great time. But no on site finishing.

Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse- these all have pretty girls and option to finish on site. The basic routine is of course stage and pole dancing, but the girls come around one by one and dance naked in your lap, with ability to sample their tits. You are only expected to tip like R200, which is the cheapest lap dance in the world. Of course it is marketing for you to take them off the market. When you find one you like, you pay the bar R5000 ish and the girl R10,000 ish. And then the room might be $100. So it is not exactly cheap, but it's a great way to release all that tension you've built up..[/QUOTE]Tip 1: All the girls in the club are generally available for takeout, including waitresses and bar tenders. I was reminded of this by the super sexy hostess who greeted me at Penthouse. She reminded me that even she and her two hostess partners could be booked! In the end I took two bartenders out. They were both more girl next door and we're thrilled to be bar fined. Kinda made my day.

Tip 2: The drinks are super expensive, like $12- probably because they get a ton of tire kickers. But here is the real tip. They charge you separately for Jack and Coke. So $12 for Jack and $8 for the Coke mixer. Yikes. Took me a while to figure this out! So you may want to stick to on the rocks!

I am interested but my next visit will be in April.

[QUOTE=Threesome33;2137388]Hi fellows,

Let me know who is interested in joining me for an MFM or MFMF action. I already have some contacts of girls willing to engage for a 'girt') So let's have some fun in this cold winter period.[/QUOTE]

Firstly, to bros Johnken and Gaizka. Apologies for not replying earlier. I don't read this forum as much as I can or I should.

Secondly, the name is correct, but as I look thru rusodoug now, she appears to have removed her posting. The Whatsapp number I have also no longer reflects the link, so she changed her number too. Guess she went back to school and is no longer working.

Hopefully you guys can find other gems. And apologies again.

Hi,

I want to ask about group sex parties. There were a couple of times in swing clubs. I did not like it, I want to try for private meetings.

A couple of friends recommended these [URL]http://ogs.sextalk.xyz/olsis.[/URL] Was there anyone? Judging by the photos there porn actress. Is it real?

[QUOTE=Bigbird747;2144424]Firstly, to bros Johnken and Gaizka. Apologies for not replying earlier. I don't read this forum as much as I can or I should.

Secondly, the name is correct, but as I look thru rusodoug now, she appears to have removed her posting. The Whatsapp number I have also no longer reflects the link, so she changed her number too. Guess she went back to school and is no longer working.

Hopefully you guys can find other gems. And apologies again.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TravelBoy27;2140298]I am interested but my next visit will be in April.[/QUOTE]Been in Moscow in Jan, picked someone on the street. Not professional but ok experience.

Should have been on this forum before. Damn.

With a lot of nightclubs shutting down. Are the gogo dancers going to strip clubs to make ends meet? Anyone have any recent reports on strip clubs in Moscow?

[QUOTE=CastOnThis;2146931]With a lot of nightclubs shutting down. Are the gogo dancers going to strip clubs to make ends meet? Anyone have any recent reports on strip clubs in Moscow?[/QUOTE]Back in 2015, I'm in Russia on business event. I got a match on tinder, she said she is college student in her 20's. We met up went ahead and I banged her.

During sex, she said, condom hurts and she wanted me without protection and I took off, as I just want to be inside her. Asked if she is clean, she said, yes and I put it inside.

I'm so afraid, I didn't even cum. But she ride on me, so her fluids might have gone into me.

Then fast forward, I found out that she is not a college student but actually in her 40's. And she is a street dancer. I couldn't even fucking get a hold of it. It threw me off mentally.

I reached her on vk using fake ID asking if she is HIV positive, she said no. Still I don't think that woman is tested. After 3 years I'm getting tested now. I'm scares as shttt because.

Recently I saw the lady and she looked so thin to what she look back in 2015. I didn't show any symptoms so I don't know.

Will update on anything. I get my results around March 7th I believe. So fuck go go dancers.

I am a regular visitor of Moscow and had some nice experiences the last years. I mostly meet girl from Mamba. For my next trip I am I contact with 2 girls and I would like to try MFMF. Is anybody interested in sharing the cost of this meeting? It should be also easy if that person speaks a little bit Russian as there English is not so good.

[QUOTE=Mathew1984;2148165]Back in 2015, I'm in Russia on business event. I got a match on tinder, she said she is college student in her 20's. We met up went ahead and I banged her.

During sex, she said, condom hurts and she wanted me without protection and I took off, as I just want to be inside her. Asked if she is clean, she said, yes and I put it inside.

I'm so afraid, I didn't even cum. But she ride on me, so her fluids might have gone into me.

Then fast forward, I found out that she is not a college student but actually in her 40's. And she is a street dancer. I couldn't even fucking get a hold of it. It threw me off mentally.

I reached her on vk using fake ID asking if she is HIV positive, she said no. Still I don't think that woman is tested. After 3 years I'm getting tested now. I'm scares as shttt because.

Recently I saw the lady and she looked so thin to what she look back in 2015. I didn't show any symptoms so I don't know.

Will update on anything. I get my results around March 7th I believe. So fuck go go dancers.[/QUOTE]The rule is that you only go bareback with really attractive women that work at strip clubs. None other. Not if you meet her in a bar, etc. Only strip club.

Heading back in a month or two and wanted to see if any members had any luck finding any gems on intimcity or rusdog?

[QUOTE=Mathew1984;2148165]Back in 2015, I'm in Russia on business event. I got a match on tinder, she said she is college student in her 20's. We met up went ahead and I banged her.

During sex, she said, condom hurts and she wanted me without protection and I took off, as I just want to be inside her. Asked if she is clean, she said, yes and I put it inside.

I'm so afraid, I didn't even cum. But she ride on me, so her fluids might have gone into me.

Then fast forward, I found out that she is not a college student but actually in her 40's. And she is a street dancer. I couldn't even fucking get a hold of it. It threw me off mentally.

I reached her on vk using fake ID asking if she is HIV positive, she said no. Still I don't think that woman is tested. After 3 years I'm getting tested now. I'm scares as shttt because.

Recently I saw the lady and she looked so thin to what she look back in 2015. I didn't show any symptoms so I don't know.

Will update on anything. I get my results around March 7th I believe. So fuck go go dancers.[/QUOTE]Chill. The chance of getting HIV infected during a single unprotected encounter is only around 1/3000 even if she is HIV positive.

In Moscow April 7, 8, 9.

I'll be in Moscow April 7, 8, 9, and I'm looking for some play. Would love to have someone with translation skills who can help set up a couple of dates for me so I don't get ripped off. Will pay for time. PM me if interested.

ASUdevil.

[QUOTE=Mathew1984;2148165]Back in 2015, I'm in Russia on business event. I got a match on tinder, she said she is college student in her 20's. We met up went ahead and I banged her.

During sex, she said, condom hurts and she wanted me without protection and I took off, as I just want to be inside her. Asked if she is clean, she said, yes and I put it inside.

I'm so afraid, I didn't even cum. But she ride on me, so her fluids might have gone into me.

Then fast forward, I found out that she is not a college student but actually in her 40's. And she is a street dancer. I couldn't even fucking get a hold of it. It threw me off mentally.

I reached her on vk using fake ID asking if she is HIV positive, she said no. Still I don't think that woman is tested. After 3 years I'm getting tested now. I'm scares as shttt because.

Recently I saw the lady and she looked so thin to what she look back in 2015. I didn't show any symptoms so I don't know.

Will update on anything. I get my results around March 7th I believe. So fuck go go dancers.[/QUOTE]A few years back I met a girl in a casa in the Caribbean who told me that she hated sex with a condom and asked me to do her bare back. I told her no. She insisted on going bare back. I had already paid for her and would have lost that money had I decided to choose someone else. Eventually we had a lacklustre CFS. A couple years later I sessioned another girl at that casa who told me that the other girl, who no longer worked there, had HIV. Some HIV positive people try to give it to others intentionally.

[QUOTE=Mathew1984;2148165]Recently I saw the lady and she looked so thin to what she look back in 2015. I didn't show any symptoms so I don't know.[/QUOTE]Not every WG uses the profits from her occupation to pay for her schooling, support her family, or purchase the latest smartphone, high heels, or Coach bag being displayed in the local mall. Some use their profits to support their drug habit. It's possible your WG is thin because she's been snorting more cocaine than Tony Montana.

Relax, and continue to get tested.

[QUOTE=ASUDevil1;2153299]In Moscow April 7, 8, 9.

I'll be in Moscow April 7, 8, 9, and I'm looking for some play. Would love to have someone with translation skills who can help set up a couple of dates for me so I don't get ripped off. Will pay for time. PM me if interested.

ASUdevil.[/QUOTE]Hi Asus,

As a fellow non cyrillic reader, I would suggest you spend the next few weeks getting used to using Google Translate or any other translation app. I have learnt to cut and paste the translation as fast as possible so text communication is not an issue. I try to be honest as well, as some ladies may not like a foreign tongue. Or read.

That said, once you get them in the room, sign language is pretty universal but always expect certain restrictions on speed of understanding and GFE. Most are eager to please so its up to your chemistry.

Good luck hunting!

[QUOTE=HighRevver;2151064]Heading back in a month or two and wanted to see if any members had any luck finding any gems on intimcity or rusdog?[/QUOTE]Hi,

I use both and mainly rely on whatsapp with google translate, but find that most ladies still prefer to go via voice. So if you speak Russian, then kudos. Otherwise, put the number in and hope it shows up on yr app of choice.

I've had good experiences on either site if you can find my reviews. Good luck hunting.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2153269]Chill. The chance of getting HIV infected during a single unprotected encounter is only around 1/3000 even if she is HIV positive.[/QUOTE]I even doubt if 1 in 3000 is an accurate figure. The chances of infection are probably much more remote.

No one has an interest in telling us the truth about HIV. Conservative governments like scaring the shit out of people about having promiscuous sex. LGBT and liberal groups don't want it labeled a gay disease. HIV infected bi-sexual men lie to researchers about sex with men or drug usage.

To be honest. I haven't got a word to write.

Its really reassuring for him.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2153982]A few years back I met a girl in a casa in the Caribbean who told me that she hated sex with a condom and asked me to do her bare back. I told her no. She insisted on going bare back. I had already paid for her and would have lost that money had I decided to choose someone else. Eventually we had a lacklustre CFS. A couple years later I sessioned another girl at that casa who told me that the other girl, who no longer worked there, had HIV. Some HIV positive people try to give it to others intentionally.[/QUOTE]

Hello all,

Is there any FKK available or swinger club. Am also interested on bath spa having sexy ladies around.

Thanks,

Best.

[QUOTE=BmkLust1982;2158267]Hello all,

Is there any FKK available or swinger club. Am also interested on bath spa having sexy ladies around.

Thanks,

Best.[/QUOTE]I have never seen FKK outside of Germany and did not have luck figuring out the sauna scene in Russia. Your best bet is the strip clubs where all the girls, both on stage and the waitresses are on offer. This is a great format. The girls that dance on stage will come by and offer lap dance. This is not like US where it's $20 and up. It's only for like 1 minute to see if you like her. And tipping 200 R ($3.50) is very standard.

But, when you like a girl enough you tell her you want to go out. Costs like $100 for the bar, $200 for the girl, and $100 for the room, tho obviously this can vary. And the rooms are right there on site, even tho technically another business.

Recommend Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse. Recommend against Rasputins.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2157404]I even doubt if 1 in 3000 is an accurate figure. The chances of infection are probably much more remote.

No one has an interest in telling us the truth about HIV. Conservative governments like scaring the shit out of people about having promiscuous sex. LGBT and liberal groups don't want it labeled a gay disease. HIV infected bi-sexual men lie to researchers about sex with men or drug usage.[/QUOTE]HIV rates in Russia are way higher than in Western countries, as is drug abuse and especially the use of syringes (also for non-abusive medical purposes). However, the chance of getting HIV in a one-off encounter I s pretty slim. Especially if it doesn't involve unprotected anal sex (anal juice and the resulting cuts in the rectum are extremely conductive for the HIV virus). It is almost impossible to get HIV from (unprotected) oral sex, the greatest risk being for a woman giving a man blow job and taking his cum in her mouth, but even then the chances are microscopic. However, unlike the impression many people on ISG give, if you go around having unprotected (vaginal) sex with prostitutes over time the chance of getting HIV is pretty big. An estimated 36 million people in the world have HIV and 5000 new ones get it every day [URL]https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/global-statistics[/URL] Your risk is your own problem and perhaps the problem of the tax payers in the country where you are a citizen who may have to cover your healthcare, but it is also a problem for other mongers who sleep with the same girls and above all for the girls. They are often uneducated and don't have the same resources as most mongers to inform themselves about risks. Ensuring safe sex is one the real moral imperative for mongers, more so than some of the other much touted rules on this forum.

I frequently encounter working girls who don't want to use condoms, perhaps 1 or 2 out of 10. Sometimes they make this explicit but often it is just implicit (but very clear, including trying hard physically to get me into them without a condom). I kind of enjoy it because it is a kind of compliment, and because I know sex without a condom is delightful, but (or perhaps because) it is also brinkmanship and very important to resist it, though we have all slipped at some or other point.

There could be many reasons why the woman you were with got thinner, including a bunch of other diseases, various psychological disorders and not least anorexia.

It is almost certain that you are ok, and you have probably learned your lesson (at least for a while).

Cucumber.

Info Request.

As you know I'm often in Russia and Moscow and I go for blonde and pale sponsorettes, but I have seen that there is a huge and cheap market for black girls (sometimes independent some times in brothels) that is quite cheap even for threeholers! The mandatory 6 hours night / long time goes for 8-10.000 RUR.

Somebody has explored this world? Of course getting to Moscow for black pros seems strange, but on ground they could be cheaper only in Africa. Not even in Brazil. I think I should go for a screw or two. Some experiences, some brothels, some advices?

Thanks.

IT.

[QUOTE=ItTravel;2159878]Info Request.

As you know I'm often in Russia and Moscow and I go for blonde and pale sponsorettes, but I have seen that there is a huge and cheap market for black girls (sometimes independent some times in brothels) that is quite cheap even for threeholers! The mandatory 6 hours night / long time goes for 8-10.000 RUR.

Somebody has explored this world? Of course getting to Moscow for black pros seems strange, but on ground they could be cheaper only in Africa. Not even in Brazil. I think I should go for a screw or two. Some experiences, some brothels, some advices?

Thanks.

IT.[/QUOTE]I had the same thoughts and tried my hand at the scene last year. Chose two from the rusdosug website. One was much uglier than her pics. The other not as good looking but still cute.

Neither gave anything remotely resembling GFE. No DFK. No BBBJ. Very unenthusiastic. Both girls seemed miserable to be in Russia and probably tricked into escorting.

I found the whole scene to be pretty depressing so I just gave it up. Did not even bother to respond to messages from the girls afterwards.

But maybe your experiences will be better. In any case please post and let us know how it turns out.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2159885]I had the same thoughts and tried my hand at the scene last year. Chose two from the rusdosug website. One was much uglier than her pics. The other not as good looking but still cute.

Neither gave anything remotely resembling GFE. No DFK. No BBBJ. Very unenthusiastic. Both girls seemed miserable to be in Russia and probably tricked into escorting.

I found the whole scene to be pretty depressing so I just gave it up. Did not even bother to respond to messages from the girls afterwards.

But maybe your experiences will be better. In any case please post and let us know how it turns out.[/QUOTE]Many thanks, may be for a hundred euros (5/6 hours, long time) I can get a try. If I have time and the pale, pink blondinkas leave me some time.

[QUOTE=ItTravel;2159878]Info Request.

As you know I'm often in Russia and Moscow and I go for blonde and pale sponsorettes, but I have seen that there is a huge and cheap market for black girls (sometimes independent some times in brothels) that is quite cheap even for threeholers! The mandatory 6 hours night / long time goes for 8-10.000 RUR.

Somebody has explored this world? Of course getting to Moscow for black pros seems strange, but on ground they could be cheaper only in Africa. Not even in Brazil. I think I should go for a screw or two. Some experiences, some brothels, some advices?

Thanks.

IT.[/QUOTE]I have a bit of experience here. I'm often in Moscow for work.

You're right that the black girls in Moscow are cheaper. Also their agent / dispatcher will speak English and this is rare in Moscow. When I'm having trouble getting a girl (or at least dispatcher) to understand me, I go black. I tried many until.

Wait I'll get to that bit soon.

What you should expect:

1) profile photos are 99% fake.

2) they don't do uncovered oral even if their agency / dispatcher says they do.

3) they don't do anal even if their profile says they do.

4) for some bizarre reason they have a hatred of lube! I've had several Africans in Moscow tell me that lube makes you vulnerable to infection (Total BS). But since they weren't turned on, the sex was like fucking sandpaper. I always use lube with condoms and this just annoys the crap out of me.

5) they can take hygiene paranoia to a level I've never seen in pros of other colors anywhere in the world. EG you can't touch their pussy with your hand. After she carefully puts a rubber on your dong, you cannot touch the rubber.

Obviously these are generalizations from a wide sample. I've had one that did anal, a couple that did BBBJ for 1 - 2.000 rubles extra. Some were more relaxed about DATY or fingering. But none were remotely a good fuck or GFE so I never repeated. Even the one that was truly one of the hottest girls I've ever fucked (massive tits on tiny body) was so excruciatingly bad to fuck that I'd never ever go back.

Despite all that, they are cheap and speak English so I kept fucking them. Until this one time a got a really chatty one. She told me her life story. The [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] part. Tricked into flying to Russia, passport taken, embassy doesn't care, she was a virgin and they raped her to (I quote) "devirginize" her three holes. She tells me about how one time a client stole back the money he'd paid her and she was beaten and locked in solitary for days. Do you think I wanted to fuck her after that? (Sure I did, she was cute.) I continue seeing a couple more and all had similar stories. I decided that fucking trafficked girls is way outside my moral code. Which was interesting because until that point I didn't even know I had a moral code!

So take this info as you will. By all means take the plunge and see what you think and don't ask too many questions.

I 99% use Mamba now not escort sites. Most of the girls are genuine and want to be there (some agencies create fake profiles but you get good at spotting them). Also ads on Backpage are generally OK. Photos fake of courses but they send real ones on request and usually speak English.

My 2 c from five years intense Moscow mongering.

[QUOTE=BigBadJames;2160427]I have a bit of experience here. I'm often in Moscow for work.


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My 2 c from five years intense Moscow mongering.[/QUOTE]Many thanks, sounds the same I've heard. I use mamba too and find normal, next door, teens or so. The last one is a petite (152), extra soft but not BBW (65), super titted 105 DD bra measurements. Pale white. And light pink.

I think I'll stay off the blacks.

IT.

There is no such thing as German style FKK in Russia. Discretion is a part of Russian culture, more so than in the West. German habits like public joint gender full nudity saunas (no sexual services) are unheard of in Russia, just as much as FKK style public display. Russian clients would consider it brute and compromising. Russians enjoy the parade of young, slender petite Russian beauties in a salon, with but one male (the client) in the room.

Stay safe. Use condoms for vaginal sex and for anal sex if that is to your liking. If you shun the condom, adopt the sexual service habit that endures centuries. Enjoy the hands (both hands! The mouth, the lips, the tongue and the throat of the young butterflies. Ask for a thorough licking down below. All spots. Reciprocate. CIF is safe and exciting. Don't be a fool for nothing, when so much more can be had at basically no risk.

Greetings Mongerers,

I am wrapping up a quick three night visit in Moscow, and I have to say it was exactly what I expected and hoped. I did a fair amount of research ahead of time on this board so I was familiar with some of the places to check for ladies and how to contact them. But, to save some others time, here is what I did:

- I used intimcity dot NL as a primary source for ladies. Rule one with Intimcity is to use a browser like Google Chrome so you can quickly translate the pages from russian to english (there is a chrome plug in available for doing this, makes it pretty easy). Rule two, sign up for an account with the site (its free) so you can save your favorites. I was saving the profiles by clicking the "postpone the application" text link on each girl's page.

- Using intimcity, you can search not oly on the types of services a gal provides, but also on how she wants to communicate. On a translated page, look near the top for search by: PARAMETERS. Then after following the link, go down to the bottom of the parameters page and hit the choose button next to ways of communication. Turn off all but WhatsApp, Viber, and Telegram (a russian messaging app).

- Put Google Translate on your phone so you can translate WhatsApp messages easily.

- when you send a WhatsApp message, simply say Hello, and ask for the time you would like to meet and the services you want her to provide. Its that easy.

- some of you might be afraid to travel to see a gal. Don't be. It's very easy. The subway system takes you everywhere and it can take a ride or two to get the hang of it. Or, be smarter -- use UBER. UBER is EVERYWHERE here and it is dirt cheap. A 1 hour ride from the airport cost 1500 rubles ($23 USD). Most of the rides I took through the city cost me four or five bucks total for 15 minutes in the car. Super cheap, super safe, super easy. Once you get to the address, if you are having trouble finding the building entrance, just send a quick message to the girl to help you. Many times they will just come down to get you if you are on the corner or in an easy to see spot.

Now, I saw two fine ladies. The first was best lay I've had in the last five years, without a doubt.

Kristina Intimcity profile 300293.

[URL]https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=300293[/URL]

Her ad description was the first thing that caught my eye. "I love sex, want to earn a lot of money, and fuck like it's the last time. " Nice. She also has a ton of great reviews, another good sign. Contacted her via whatsApp and we made arrangements for her to come to my hotel about 90 minutes later for a 2 hour session. The photos are 100 percent real, and she is definitely just as pretty in person. Taller, she's about 5 foot 9 inches, but she's not skinny or fat -- super fit. Fantastic -- FANTASTIC -- ass. Has a new pair of bolt on boobies but they are also quite nice. Her English is very basic but its not too hard to cope and get through some basics, use Google Translate for everything else.

Kristina excuses herself to the shower for about 10 minutes. RIght when I start wondering what is taking so long she comes out of the bathroom wearing a killer red bra / panty / garter / stocking combination that made my jaw drop. She is very relaxed, and easy to be comfortable with. She climbs on top of me on the bed and we start with some LFK that quickly turns to DFK. Like any Russian women, or eastern women in general, she likes a man to take control, so I did. She slides down to give me a fantastic BBBJ while I'm on my back and she's on all fours, and I get a chance to admire that killer body. Probably the best BBBJ I have had in a long time. Good motion, moans, tongue, you name it. She really likes DT so we did that a few times. I flip her on her back with her head on the edge of the bed and DT her that way while using some fingers on her why. She's already soaked and moaning. We switch to DATY and I use a finger to hit her G spot while doing it. She went nuts with screams so loud the neighboring rooms definitely heard. But so what.

I cover up for some pounding in mish -- alternating slow and then harder and faster. Doggie, more mish, sideways scissors, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, back to more BBBJ, to 69. I started to lose count on what we were doing. I had a 2 hour session and we did everything and then some. Eventually I am on my back and she's giving me DT, asking me (in Russian) to please finish on her face. Who am I to say no?

I would repeat every time I had the opportunity.

Time spent: 2 hours Cost 17000 are including DFK, DT, BBBJ, CIF, FIV, DATY. Anal available for 5,000 are more, which I did not partake but I sort of wish I did, because it is an amazing ass to plug for sure.

So the second girl I saw was one named Anastasia (Nastya). Profile #313152 on intimcity dot NL.

[URL]https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=313152[/URL]

Three hour appointment for 18000 R. Included BBBJ, DFK, Submissive, anal, CIF, multi-pops, FIV, FIA, DATY, DT. A regular porno collection of abbreviations.

Anastasia is a girl, about 20. Speaks only Russian, so we used Google Translate a lot. She takes a quick shower and joins me on the bed. Nice, smooth youthful body and a very pretty face. I love these Russian redheads with blue eyes, and she is a perfect example of it. Nice handful-sized tatas with the perkiest nips, I could have tweaked them all day. We did some DFK, DATY, BBBJ, she wanted to do DT and gagging and it seems she enjoys this a lot. Put on a cover and she wanted to go straight to Greece, or Straight to the A as some might say. So after some DATO to get her ready I hit that ass first in mish and then in doggie, making her put her ass super high in the air. Definitely a girl who wants the man to lead the way. We went from position to position, even at one point a standing doggie in the hotel window. I then put her on the bed for some DATY teasing, using my fingers slowly a' la one in the pink and one in the stink, and she came like a monster. Nastya is super tight and you can feel her contractions when she has an O, that's something that can't be faked. After some more pounding I stood up with her kneeling and dropped #1 on her open mouth. Super sexy.

At this point I was too tired for round 2. Round 1 took about two hours, and I skipped over a lot of stuff in the description above. Anastasia was a lot of fun, had good technique, and was young and pretty. Not as good an experience as Kristina, but still a solid 7-8 in looks, attitude, and performance.

[QUOTE=ASUDevil1;2165445]So the second girl I saw was one named Anastasia (Nastya). Profile #313152 on intimcity dot NL.

[URL]https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=313152[/URL]

Three hour appointment for 18000 R. Included BBBJ, DFK, Submissive, anal, CIF, multi-pops, FIV, FIA, DATY, DT. A regular porno collection of abbreviations.

Anastasia is a girl, about 20. Speaks only Russian, so we used Google Translate a lot. She takes a quick shower and joins me on the bed. Nice, smooth youthful body and a very pretty face. I love these Russian redheads with blue eyes, and she is a perfect example of it. Nice handful-sized tatas with the perkiest nips, I could have tweaked them all day. We did some DFK, DATY, BBBJ, she wanted to do DT and gagging and it seems she enjoys this a lot. Put on a cover and she wanted to go straight to Greece, or Straight to the A as some might say. So after some DATO to get her ready I hit that ass first in mish and then in doggie, making her put her ass super high in the air. Definitely a girl who wants the man to lead the way. We went from position to position, even at one point a standing doggie in the hotel window. I then put her on the bed for some DATY teasing, using my fingers slowly a' la one in the pink and one in the stink, and she came like a monster. Nastya is super tight and you can feel her contractions when she has an O, that's something that can't be faked. After some more pounding I stood up with her kneeling and dropped #1 on her open mouth. Super sexy.

At this point I was too tired for round 2. Round 1 took about two hours, and I skipped over a lot of stuff in the description above. Anastasia was a lot of fun, had good technique, and was young and pretty. Not as good an experience as Kristina, but still a solid 7-8 in looks, attitude, and performance.[/QUOTE]Great reports. Thanks for sharing. Moscow is still one for the great mongering destinations. I don't care what anyone says!

I am looking for a Hotel near the city center that is 4 or 5 star that has companions available in the Hotel. Any recommendations? Was interested in Hotel National, but no info on whether any girls in bars, etc.

Any info Appreciated. Also, If anyone can recommend any foot fetish providers would be even better.

Agree 110%. Love the city, girls, so much fun! I laugh when guys criticize Russia, just completely wrong.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2165866]Great reports. Thanks for sharing. Moscow is still one for the great mongering destinations. I don't care what anyone says![/QUOTE]

Sounds interesting, but how to contact you, if you have just a regular membership?

[QUOTE=TravelBoy27;2140298]I am interested but my next visit will be in April.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2167830]Agree 110%. Love the city, girls, so much fun! I laugh when guys criticize Russia, just completely wrong.[/QUOTE]With you guys on this. I love the strip club format and pick a girl and go do the nasty. Can't beat that. Aurora and Angels and Penthouse were all rocking for me last year.

Good night, bros!

Have you been at "Bobry why utki" venued 2 steps from Chistye prudy metro station?! The name of the restaurant made my day, the cuisine was not so astonishing though.

Long story shirt.

Surfing for the hotties, stumbled upon [URL]https://moscow-massage24.com[/URL]. Decided to dig in, as have not seen the place before.

8 minutes with Uber and I was at the spot, it's at the crossroad of Pokrovka and Chistoprudnyi boulevard (this Russian street names are killing me).

1,5 hour of "Keys to the Gates of Paradise" with Dina passed like 1 minute. 2 happy-endings included. Perfect. Had to wait a little bit to get washed as not all the rooms are equipped with shower.

Spent 7000 RUR (a little more than 100 $), plus tipped the lady with 1000 RUR for a perfect service.

P.S. Massage witch's foto is attached. How you like it?

I have been obsessively RTFFing and researching for my upcoming visit for the world cup to both Moscow and SPB and greeted your detailed FR with relief. I think now that I have the blueprint for successfully mongering in Russia. Based on my research, I've decided to spend the bulk of my time in SPB and will only spend 4 days in Moscow. Hotel rates and the cost of mongering seems to be way steeper in Moscow compared to SPB which even seems to have better quality.

My concern, at this point, is whether the hordes of randy fans descending on Russia will result in a curtailing of mongering activity or if the salons will scale up to meet the demand. Oh well. There's always the strip clubs. I have been fleeced in the past by "Russian" strip clubs in the DR and Pattaya and it would be awesome to experience the real deal. My other concern, is whether I will be able to find the GFE experience I crave and it seems like I will have to go for LT / overnight bookings to ensure GFE / PSE.

This post covers so many of the ancillary issues surrounding mongering, and is so useful that it should be considered a Report of Distinction.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=ASUDevil1;2165442]Greetings Mongerers,

I am wrapping up a quick three night visit in Moscow, and I have to say it was exactly what I expected and hoped. I did a fair amount of research ahead of time on this board so I was familiar with some of the places to check for ladies and how to contact them. But, to save some others time, here is what I did:

- I used intimcity dot NL as a primary source for ladies. Rule one with Intimcity is to use a browser like Google Chrome so you can quickly translate the pages from russian to english (there is a chrome plug in available for doing this, makes it pretty easy). Rule two, sign up for an account with the site (its free) so you can save your favorites. I was saving the profiles by clicking the "postpone the application" text link on each girl's page..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ItTravel;2161135]Many thanks, sounds the same I've heard. I use mamba too and find normal, next door, teens or so. The last one is a petite (152), extra soft but not BBW (65), super titted 105 DD bra measurements. Pale white. And light pink.

I think I'll stay off the blacks.

IT.[/QUOTE]I am trying to use mamba now but it is really hard to get girls speaking English. Can you please tell mw how do you contact them?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Shockman;2172805]My concern, at this point, is whether the hordes of randy fans descending on Russia will result in a curtailing of mongering activity or if the salons will scale up to meet the demand.[/QUOTE]I think your concern is well founded. While it's true, there are "armies" of working girls from the provinces who are preparing themselves for the onslaught of horny football fans, I have to wonder if they will be able to meet demand. Because it is WC, I personally think you have to throw you budget out the window. Seriously. This is a HUGE event and Russians are as well equipped to exploit a temporary demand as anyone. Of COURSE they are going to jack up prices. That's a given. I think you are right that the strip clubs will be a good bet, but they are going to be jam packed with football fans. And you can BET that there will be very strict Face Control at the entrance so you might be well advised to make sure you are smartly dressed in order to avoid being told "NYET" at the entrance. I can't believe I am saying this, but due to WC, this might be a good time to check out some of the second tier strip clubs like Rasputin and Monte Carlo (Sovietsky Hotel) which MIGHT not be quite so busy.

The other thing to remember is that there will be a lot of these girls in the WC cities who are "semi-pros". I think these girls are the true hidden gems of Russia. They don't turn tricks in their home town or village, but they come on holiday to Moscow and SPB and are willing to "ply the trade" in order to finance their trip or even to raise money for university tuition. There will be plenty of these girls (crashing on their friend's sofa) in the bars and clubs every night looking for "Mr. Right Now" as opposed to Mr. Right.

I have to say that some of my BEST experiences have been with semi-pros. I remember one gal from Tver whom I picked up in Club Che in Moscow (long since closed) as a one night sleep-over. Next morning we negotiated a "Pretty Woman" arrangement and she stayed with me for a week for an average of about $120 a day. This was great for her because she did not have to sleep in a cramped apartment with 6 other girls for that week, got to live in a fancy hotel in the center of Moscow and did not have to pay for SHIT!! But it was probably the best $750 I ever spent.

**NOTE** The Pretty Woman arrangement is fraught with drama. I won't elaborate on this post but if anyone is interested in reading about my experiences with semi-pros drop me a PM.

[QUOTE=Shockman;2172805]I have been obsessively RTFFing and researching for my upcoming visit for the world cup to both Moscow and SPB and greeted your detailed FR with relief. I think now that I have the blueprint for successfully mongering in Russia. Based on my research, I've decided to spend the bulk of my time in SPB and will only spend 4 days in Moscow. Hotel rates and the cost of mongering seems to be way steeper in Moscow compared to SPB which even seems to have better quality.

My concern, at this point, is whether the hordes of randy fans descending on Russia will result in a curtailing of mongering activity or if the salons will scale up to meet the demand. Oh well. There's always the strip clubs. I have been fleeced in the past by "Russian" strip clubs in the DR and Pattaya and it would be awesome to experience the real deal. My other concern, is whether I will be able to find the GFE experience I crave and it seems like I will have to go for LT / overnight bookings to ensure GFE / PSE.

This post covers so many of the ancillary issues surrounding mongering, and is so useful that it should be considered a Report of Distinction.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Compliments much appreciated, Shockman. Just paying it forward like a Dude should. Trying to abide.

[QUOTE=Akak47;2173184]I am trying to use mamba now but it is really hard to get girls speaking English. Can you please tell mw how do you contact them?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Use google translate. Most girls who speak English will put it in their profile. Most of the Russian I know I picked up translating Russian language dating sites.

[QUOTE=ASUDevil1;2173962]Compliments much appreciated, Shockman. Just paying it forward like a Dude should. Trying to abide.[/QUOTE]Yes Shockman, in total concurrence that the post deserves distinction! And thank you ASUDevil for the post, as I am just starting to do my bit of reading of the russian forum for my forth coming trip to Russia.

[QUOTE=Bigbird747;2154332]Hi,

I use both and mainly rely on whatsapp with google translate, but find that most ladies still prefer to go via voice. So if you speak Russian, then kudos. Otherwise, put the number in and hope it shows up on yr app of choice.

I've had good experiences on either site if you can find my reviews. Good luck hunting.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Didn't have too much luck on either sites and nothing really interesting to report.

I'm travelling to Moscow in June and am staying at the izmailovo beta hotel. Is this girl friendly?

I am also researching quite heavily on intimacy. How do you know they are real or fake?

Also any tips on finding girls in Sochi?

Any more tips?

After having read the forum (not all) but a few, its fair to say that intimacy is a good place to hunt for your fishes, however what they offer as mentioned on the site may not be the case, so do make it very clear what you are looking for. That said my friend, there is no way of asserting whether they are fake or real. One has to take the plunge and see. But from my understanding in most cases it fairly real. Of course don't raise your expectations by merely seeing the pictures.

Now for the hotel where you are staying, again after having read the posts, I understand that most if not all hotels, are friendly with the bring the girl to room policy, however documents must be produced. (please seniors correct me if I am wrong here).

Further more (am not sure on this), but these websites intimacy and rusdosug don't work directly once when you are in Russia, so you have to use a vpn or shortlist the women that you would like to humpy-dumpy. LOL, and then start calling them once in Russia.

Happy mongering buddy.

FunkySexy.

[QUOTE=Elevate17;2181969]I'm travelling to Moscow in June and am staying at the izmailovo beta hotel. Is this girl friendly?
I am also researching quite heavily on intimacy. How do you know they are real or fake?
Also any tips on finding girls in Sochi?
Any more tips?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2168259]With you guys on this. I love the strip club format and pick a girl and go do the nasty. Can't beat that. Aurora and Angels and Penthouse were all rocking for me last year.[/QUOTE]I second it. My last trip to Moscow was great. The girls especially were incredible. I'll be back this Autumn for couple of days and staying at my favorite Hotel Ismailovo Alfa.

[QUOTE=Elevate17;2181969]I'm travelling to Moscow in June and am staying at the izmailovo beta hotel. Is this girl friendly?

I am also researching quite heavily on intimacy. How do you know they are real or fake?

Also any tips on finding girls in Sochi?

Any more tips?[/QUOTE]I looked a lot on Intimcity but prefer to see the goods in person. The strip clubs Angels, Aurora, and Penthouse have really nice offerings if you have the bank. For take out Night Flight is interesting. Its not nearly as glam as the website would indicate and the girls are a tier down from the stripclubs but I took a nice girl Mariya back to the hotel and had a nice time with two pops. About $200 as I recall. No problem at the hotel — just walked right up to the room together like a couple. Easy.

Thanks for the tips. Does anyone have any recommendations from intimcity or rusodog? Is there anything I should look out for?

Has anyone picked up in the lobby of the hotel? Do you negotiate on the spot?

I should probably mention that I have free passes to such strip clubs like Hunters, Penthouse, Aurora etc (all 911 group), I. E. You get free entry with them.

However, for those that have hit me up, I can't negotiate anything with females on the ground, legal implications and all that. Don't want to go near illegal stuff, plus from what my clients have told me, the strip clubs will show you a good time in that regard.

[QUOTE=Elevate17;2183971]Thanks for the tips. Does anyone have any recommendations from intimcity or rusodog? Is there anything I should look out for?

Has anyone picked up in the lobby of the hotel? Do you negotiate on the spot?[/QUOTE]I always use [URL]https://www.mamba.ru[/URL] to find girls.

Hello guys,

I will visit Moscow & Saint Petersburg in June & July for the first time.

I have few questions regarding the Escort Scene there:

1. Is it safe to go for Incall?

2. What are the verified website to choose a girl? I have found the below websites, so what do you think?

[URL]https://spb.relaxportal.biz/[/URL]

[URL]http://rusprostitute.com[/URL]

[URL]http://i.intimcity.com[/URL]

[URL]https://www.intimcity.nl[/URL]

[URL]https://ufimus.newdosug.eu/en/d/[/URL]

[URL]http://a.rusdosug.com[/URL]

[URL]http://moscow-escort.org[/URL]

[URL]http://telki.site[/URL]

Yes, fake independents! By pure chance I discovered that some of the girls who claim to be indies, are actually managed by an agency.

So, here is what happened. I had booked a new girl, really cute. I was very happy with the "quality" even though there was a clear disconnect between what was claimed on Rusdosug / Intimcity and reality. The girl was actually very shy, when the add was a bit nasty. I loved it, because she was 100% GFE. Anyway, we both had a very good time, I left the girl with a large tip and even a gift I had with me! She was super happy, and left my room. The next day I receive a text from someone who explains to be his manager (a man) and inquires if everything was fine last night. He explains that she just returned her working phone and left the agency! After I confirmed I had no issue, he was happy enough and left it there.

I believe this girl just wanted a bit of money, and when she had what she needs, she just quit!

So, yes, those girls might just work for an agency who provides them with a phone so they look like an indie that you book direct.

That made me question the other girl I have booked recently. Again, young, new, independent. That girl was super fun, I had a great time with her but again there was a clear disconnect between the add and what she does. That makes me think that maybe again the add is posted by an agency who "knows what to put in the add", and doesn't even ask the girl what she accepts to do. This is really wrong. Next time I'll ask in a very direct way if the girl is a real independent or not!

Another way to check on this is to not mention any extra during the booking process. That way, if there is an agency, it is expecting the basic amount back from the girl and then the girl can keep all the money of the extra to herself. If you explain the plan to the girl, face to face, she might feel comfortable enough to tell the truth.

[QUOTE=TravelBoy27;2184329]I always use [URL]https://www.mamba.ru[/URL] to find girls.[/QUOTE]Mamba is only serving for the outcall visits. So you need to rent an apartment or invite a girl to your hotel room.

Plus the profile of the escort will not coincide with the unploaded photo with 99% certainty.

Guys recommended me to visit 7 x 7 Club & Spa for men, which is only steps away from Tsvetnoy boulevard.

Has anyone had experience with Moscow erotic massage babes? They only have Russian version of the site (7 x 7-massage. Ru) and I didn't have the chance to learn their language.

Good night, bros!

Have you been at "Bobry why utki" venued 2 steps from Chistye prudy metro station?! The name of the restaurant made my day, the cuisine was not so astonishing though.

Long story shirt.

Surfing for the hotties, stumbled upon [URL]https://moscow-massage24.com[/URL]. Decided to dig in, as have not seen the place before.

8 minutes with Uber and I was at the spot, it's at the crossroad of Pokrovka and Chistoprudnyi boulevard (this Russian street names are killing me).

1,5 hour of "Boss" program with Dina passed like 1 minute. 2 happy-endings included. Perfect. Had to wait a little bit to get washed as not all the rooms are equipped with shower.

Spent 6000 RUR (100 $), plus tipped the lady with 1000 RUR for a perfect service.

P.S. Girls foto is attached. How you like it?

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[QUOTE=Jonny81;2189297]Mamba is only serving for the outcall visits. So you need to rent an apartment or invite a girl to your hotel room.

Plus the profile of the escort will not coincide with the unploaded photo with 99% certainty.

Guys recommended me to visit 7 x 7 Club & Spa for men, which is only steps away from Tsvetnoy boulevard.

Has anyone had experience with Moscow erotic massage babes? They only have Russian version of the site (7 x 7-massage. Ru) and I didn't have the chance to learn their language.[/QUOTE]Visited this place last year. Cheap but fancy. Prices start from only 30 $/ hour of erotic massage can you believe?

[QUOTE=FunkySexy;2182199]After having read the forum (not all) but a few, its fair to say that intimacy is a good place to hunt for your fishes, however what they offer as mentioned on the site may not be the case, so do make it very clear what you are looking for. That said my friend, there is no way of asserting whether they are fake or real. One has to take the plunge and see. But from my understanding in most cases it fairly real. Of course don't raise your expectations by merely seeing the pictures.

Now for the hotel where you are staying, again after having read the posts, I understand that most if not all hotels, are friendly with the bring the girl to room policy, however documents must be produced. (please seniors correct me if I am wrong here).

Further more (am not sure on this), but these websites intimacy and rusdosug don't work directly once when you are in Russia, so you have to use a vpn or shortlist the women that you would like to humpy-dumpy. LOL, and then start calling them once in Russia.

Happy mongering buddy.

FunkySexy.[/QUOTE]That's true, VPN will be needed for these classifieds.

It's weird but intimate massage sites which are almost the same sh* I am screening w / o any problem.

For example, this spa for men close to Kitay Gorod: [URL]http://erotik-centr.ru[/URL]. Going to visit tomorrow, please wait for my report with the details!

Ciao amigos!

Best area or hotel in Moscow for mongering?

TIA.

I came to Moscow yesterday to watch the game Portugal vs Morocco tomorrow, I will be staying here for a few days.

I watched the game Portugal vs Spain in Sochi. It was a very good experience. Russia World Cup is as good as Brazil world cup and very different. I found the regular girls to be friendly and easygoing in Kochi and I got laid with some Russian stunners during my stay in Kochi.

Anyone knows good bars to pick up regulars in Moscow. I've been to Russia many times but don't know Moscow very well because I am a bigger fan of small Russian cities and towns.

P.S: I speak Russian, I don't have trouble talking to Russian girls but just want to try the best bars with the best atmosphere and beverage so that I can enjoy some regular girls in Moscow because I m just out here for a few days before going to Saransk.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2194010]P.S: I speak Russian, I don't have trouble talking to Russian girls but just want to try the best bars with the best atmosphere and beverage so that I can enjoy some regular girls in Moscow because I m just out here for a few days before going to Saransk.[/QUOTE]Old School Pub (mid range nice people) [URL]http://www.ospub.ru/[/URL].

Siberia Moscow (a bit high end) [URL]http://eng.siberiamoscow.ru/[/URL].

Papas Place [URL]http://papas.ru/[/URL].

Tap & Barrel (Good pub) [URL]http://tbpub.ru/en.html[/URL].

Luch (High End Party girls) [URL]https://barluch.ru/[/URL].

Enjoy!

Any suggestions for hotels close to the salons?

Please advise.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Shamester;2195634]Any suggestions for hotels close to the salons?

Please advise.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]There's no exact answer, bro.

Last ones I visited were Center erotic spa for men which is at 14/2 Pokrovka Str. (Chistye Prudy metro station) and Vanil'ny Rai at Maroseyka. It is Kitay Gorod metro station, but the latter is not functioning any more as far as I know.

Also, do stripclub girls give out their phone numbers so they can meet privately in the client's hotel room?

[QUOTE=JasonWang;2201925]Also, do stripclub girls give out their phone numbers so they can meet privately in the client's hotel room?[/QUOTE]They are not supposed to, but if they like you they will.

[QUOTE=JasonWang;2201925]Also, do stripclub girls give out their phone numbers so they can meet privately in the client's hotel room?[/QUOTE]There are two types of clubs:

1. Traditional strip Club with some touching. Golden Girls is this way. Pretty girls but no plan to fuck. Be surprised if you get a number off them. They work that kind of club for a reason.

2. Strip club made for fucking. Rooms onsite. Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse are all this way. Enjoy the club and sample the merch. Then pay the bar fine and take her upstairs or downstairs to do the deed. These are gorgeous girls too. All top shelf. .

Number 2 above is super. No hassle going back to hotel and such. If you have the bank, this is not to be missed.

P.S. Avoid Rasputin's. Looks great on the web, but really slow poor vibe and very limited touching. Highly lame IMO.

This visit was actually last year, before I started ISGing, but as folks are asking about the clubs, let me recount a top notch experience. Before getting to Penthouse let me add that Rasputins sucks, Nightflight is interesting if you want take out (but much smaller and darker than it appears on the web), Angels is nice, but didn't do the deed, Golden Girls are beautiful, but standard strip club, and Aurora was great and had a nice Euro girl in a pleasant room with nice enough shower. Now, onto Penthouse. (Warning: expensive evening coming up- about $1500 but wouldn't trade it for anything).

Arrived late after striking out at Angels. These clubs are owned by the same guy, so I took his free limo from Angels to Penthouse. Gorgeous model types at the entrance desk. Can't recall cover. Maybe $30? A hot hostess escorts me into the club, where I decide I'll get a table near the front. Costs something- maybe $50. (Sorry, I'd had a lot to drink by then and it's sort of foggy). The gorgeous hostess reminds me that ALL girls in the club- waitresses, gogo dancers, bar tenders and even hostesses (wink) are available to take out (and nail at convenient on site rooms).

So I sit and enjoy naked girls gyrating on stage with my jack and Coke in hand. After a short while, a couple girls approach- dressed up a lot less than the hostesses. I come to find they are barmaids and offer to sit with me- its $15/ girl for 10 minutes, but what the heck, I am in a generous mood. And it is totally worth it. Two hot girls fawning all over you while you watch naked girls on stage. Could it get better? Yep.

I let our time lapse and then sample the merch a bit. The deal in these clubs where they are trying to convince you to take them out is they will dance naked and gyrate on your lap. You can sample their tits- no issue. And the traditional tip is 200 rubles, about $3. So this part is a bargain. It's only for a minute or two each, but I probably sample 5 or 10 girls over and hour or so.

In the end, I decide on the barmaids. I like their style and I think maybe they don't get picked a lot so maybe they will be extra eager. I have them over for another 10 minutes on my dime and discuss the deets of leaving as a threesome. It will be 28,000 rubles ($450 ish) plus hotel, which is conveniently downstairs (the hotel is a separate business because brothels are illegal, but the veil is pretty thin! And off we go after a quick change of clothes. They both look smoking cute. One is a sizeable girl-- not fat, but clearly euro-stock and the other a tiny Thai and / or Indian mix.

The hotel is super-luxe- not some place for a quickie. It has two rooms: one is a large bedroom of course, the other has a large conference table and a full on Karaoke system. The shower is literally 3.5 M by 3.5 M. I call this a fucking sweet fucking suite!

The next hour absolutely flew by. We order jack and Coke all around and a bunch of sushi platters and all this is delivered from the club above. We are doing Karaoke and we all have our shirts off and are dancing and groping and drinking and gorging. The girls keep ordering more Jack and Coke and more sushi and we just let it flow. Don't knock semi-naked Karaoke till you've tried it. A blast. It is great that the waitresses seem completely unperturbed by our debauchery as they keep bringing libations.

Eventually we did get around to the sex thing, when the tiny one ushered me to the shower, which we did together and then very pleasant sex in a couple positions, though I admit in my drunken state I did not take enough advantage of the FMF conditions. And, full disclosure, they did play me for sure in retrospect, as we were just getting to the deed when time ran out and I had to up the game for another 28,000. (WGs will be WGs, eh).

I have to say, although the sex was good, it was not the highlight. It was the total experience which was spectacular! Just an absolute blast if you have the cash. Absolutely worth it in the banking memories department, which has grown more and more important to me as I age. One of my favorite traveling memories.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2202514]This visit was actually last year, before I started ISGing, but as folks are asking about the clubs, let me recount a top notch experience. I have to say, although the sex was good, it was not the highlight. It was the total experience which was spectacular! Just an absolute blast if you have the cash. Absolutely worth it in the banking memories department, which has grown more and more important to me as I age. One of my favorite traveling memories.[/QUOTE]Wonderful FR Steve. Now this is motivational stuff. If I would have known about this before I will not miss Football world cup. LOL I am following your footsteps Steve, It started in Japan which was unforgettable with your recommendation of Rika. Now it is going to be London Moscow and then follow you to maybe Brazil haha. Keep the good work going, Steve.

I have travelled a few times to Moscow lately for an international project and between the business meeting and mandatory lunches with business partners I manage to have my fair portion of adult fun. When in Moscow I had some great experiences with Mamba. But I must say I paid my lessons already in Kiev when planning dates through Mamba so I manage much better to filter out the agencies and fake girls. I usually continue the communication on Whatsapp. I also used Intimcity and Rusdosug and I find the ads there pretty reliable. I am very grateful for the suggestion of ASUDevil1 here to filter profiles on Viber and Whatsapp contact options and to use Chrome for easier translating. And as member FunkySexy already stated in one of his valuable reports here, use a VPN programme to change your IP address, otherwise sites like Rusdosug will be blocked. I use HideMyAss and that comes in really handy sometimes to bypass Russian blockades. When reading this great forum again (I was away too long) I was triggered by the post of ASUDevil1. And decided to also hook up with Anastasia / Nastya on [URL]https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=313152.[/URL] Do not be deceived by her young innocent angel looks because she turns into a hot devil in bed. I can confirm she is playful and hot and definitely on the submissive side. The Greek option with her was one of the best I ever had.

My most recent sex date in Moscow was something different but also very much worth sharing. Over the last years I also have this desire to meet porn stars and I must say that these meetings were a hit and a miss. Once in Brussels I had a hotel date with Russian porn star Taissia Shanti, which is quite famous. But she was very uninspired and cold and it pained me to having wasted 300 euro on her. Another Russian adult star I always fancied and once could meet for real is Aruna Aghora who was touring to my own country. That date was really hot with lots of French kissing and other GFE stuff.

But the date which is one number 1 in my all-time list right now is the recent meeting in Moscow with Irina Bruni. I found her here: [URL]https://www.slavic-companions.com/international-erotic-services-nightlife/russia/moscow-escorts-call-girls/irina-brunita[/URL] She also has an own site but recently it was a few times under construction: [URL]http://irinabruniathome.com/[/URL] so I give you both addresses. Irina Bruni is also the name she used when working in the international porn industry (another alias in her first years was Ashley). Check her up, you will find thousands of leads and some video clips are pretty awesome. She did kinky things in her movie career: brutal group sex, rimming, golden rain et cetera, but she always manage to keep this sweet fresh innocent girl appearance. I really like that. Also she did not cover up her all body with tattoos or had too many boob jobs, which is a plus in my book as well. Most of all I was always attracted by her sparkling eyes, smoky voice and killer body. And if you like me have a fetish for looooooooong legs and sexy feet you will like her too.

For those who think she is a worn out and blas retired porn star; you cannot be further from the truth. She has fire inside and is still quite young since she entered the industry already at a very young age. She is really fit and still great looking: good skin, sparkling eyes, long slim legs and firm ass. Best of all: in escort business she has no taboos either. I explored all her sweet holes and her tongue and lips skipped no area of my body either. If you are more into GFE than PSE, that is possible as well. She is passionate kisser. And I mean the real French kissing with tongue, and likes cuddling too. We talked a lot before and between two steamy sessions and a learned a lot about her life and career. I was astonished by many anecdotes. She had really a rock and roll life and therefore it is even more remarkable and impressive that she is still hot looking and did not lost her appetite for sex and stamina. I mean: if I would have as much sex as she had in her life I would probably like to spend the rest of my life in a Tibetan monastery. Maybe I was lucky that she felt a click with me, since I got many compliments and she even made me blush. But I cannot imagine any other guy would go wrong with her. She is quite responsive in Whatsapp so pre-sales communication goes quite easy, as long as you do not abuse her as a free chat box because then she will definitely block you. Total damage with her was 250 euro but I can assure you she is worth every single rubble.

[QUOTE=CraigDee;2205449]Why not just book an escort girl, no hassle, just call and invite the girl in your hotel room. Just make sure you get the right provider.[/QUOTE]There is certainly merit to the simple "book a girl" method. But there is really no substitute for live interaction. No bait and switch. Get to test the chemistry. Already know there are no surprises because you've seen her naked and probably already sampled her tits. Plus there is a certain thrill about taking a girl from a club.

My next trip there are a ton of freelancers but a vibrant club scene. I will probably stick to the clubs mostly as I just like that format.

I was in Moscow for a few days and started researching Rusdosug while I was in Poland since I don't have a VPN and didn't want to spend time trying to get one. I took screen shots of a bunch of girls I was interested in along with their numbers. In Moscow, I texted a bunch of them in English from a Russian Sim card. These were all girls who came up in a search of English speakers. I think I texted maybe 5 or 6 of them and I got a reply from Elena. Her profile ID is 256447. She came to my hotel in about an hour and wanted 5000 are. She is the same girl in the pic, with a little bit of patchy discolored skin on her chest. Nice girl, spoke decent English and had really white pasty skin which I liked. I stayed in the Naumov Aparthotel right above Beverly Hills Diner on Sretenka and had no problem bringing the girl in even though there is a security guard at the entrance.

I also visited Night Flight just to see the place and see for myself how the girls were. The girls were definitely older like maybe 26-33 and very pushy and shark like. They also asked a lot, I think they wanted like $300-$500. I met a guy there who used to come there from 2000 on in it's heyday and he said when he visits now like once a year, it is a shadow of what it used to be. I'm not sure what has changed or why it is not flush with expats throwing money around but it was not very good.

I also love the city, energy, and the Vibrant Night Life, in Moscow. There are so many options there to meet real hot girls, street, clubs, restaurants, and computer. Unlike Kiev a lot of the girls I met on-line were better looking in person, totally different then Ukraine, and very few scams. You still need to be careful, but scams were few and far between.

As far as prices you do not have to spend a lot of money there, very reasonable, of course you can spend as much money if you want and go crazy.

Girls, by far the best place I have been. (Ukraine, Colombia, Mexico, and Parts of Europe) They are motivated to meet foreigner, older guys, educated are so beautiful.

There are Sex Tourist, (T. Dudes, but they are forced to behave, bad behavior is not tolerated, unlike other destinations.) make for much more fun and the S. Tourist that are there are much more educated and genuinely very nice.

I do not have time to travel, during the summer, because of work, but I plan on take 2-4, trips over there winter months.

There is certainly merit to the simple "book a girl" method. But there is really no substitute for live interaction. No bait and switch. Get to test the chemistry. Already know there are no surprises because you've seen her naked and probably already sampled her tits. Plus there is a certain thrill about taking a girl from a club.

My next trip there are a ton of freelancers but a vibrant club scene. I will probably stick to the clubs mostly as I just like that format.

I also love the city, energy, and the Vibrant Night Life, in Moscow. There are so many options there to meet real hot girls, street, clubs, restaurants, and computer. Unlike Kiev a lot of the girls I met on-line were better looking in person, totally different then Ukraine, and very few scams. You still need to be careful, but scams were few and far between.

As far as prices you do not have to spend a lot of money there, very reasonable, of course you can spend as much money if you want and go crazy.

Girls, by far the best place I have been. (Ukraine, Colombia, Mexico, and Parts of Europe) They are motivated to meet foreigner, older guys, educated are so beautiful.

There are Sex Tourist, (T. Dudes, but they are forced to behave, bad behavior is not tolerated, unlike other destinations.) make for much more fun and the S. Tourist that are there are much more educated and genuinely very nice.

I do not have time to travel, during the summer, because of work, but I plan on take 2-4, trips over there winter months.

There is certainly merit to the simple "book a girl" method. But there is really no substitute for live interaction. No bait and switch. Get to test the chemistry. Already know there are no surprises because you've seen her naked and probably already sampled her tits. Plus there is a certain thrill about taking a girl from a club.

Agree, I made some many contacts at the Clubs. I will stick with the clubs Thursday-Sunday and Seeking Arrangement during the day, worked great last time. Love Moscow!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2202382]There are two types of clubs:

1. Traditional strip Club with some touching. Golden Girls is this way. Pretty girls but no plan to fuck. Be surprised if you get a number off them. They work that kind of club for a reason.

P.S. Avoid Rasputin's. Looks great on the web, but really slow poor vibe and very limited touching. Highly lame IMO.[/QUOTE]My experience at golden girls has been the opposite. That they're more likely to give you their number than not. Prices vary. From free to 500 k rubles for a night LOL. Most want a sugar daddy.

As for Rasputin: take-out is only for regular customers, people they know. Alternatively, you can always go upstairs and rent out one of the saunas. The girls up there are different and available for pretty much anything.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2202382]There are two types of clubs:

1. Traditional strip Club with some touching. Golden Girls is this way. Pretty girls but no plan to fuck. Be surprised if you get a number off them. They work that kind of club for a reason.

2. Strip club made for fucking. Rooms onsite. Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse are all this way. Enjoy the club and sample the merch. Then pay the bar fine and take her upstairs or downstairs to do the deed. These are gorgeous girls too. All top shelf. .

Number 2 above is super. No hassle going back to hotel and such. If you have the bank, this is not to be missed.

P.S. Avoid Rasputin's. Looks great on the web, but really slow poor vibe and very limited touching. Highly lame IMO.[/QUOTE]Your next post is so relatable man, I'm not really into the escort scene and I have had enough sex for it not to be a priority anymore. I'd like to create memories and thus love frequenting strip clubs though I admit not rich enough to go through with the deed but I love drinking and singing and all in all having a good time with the girls. This is generally my MO in Go Go bars of Pattaya and I often frequent Russian bars there as well. They are so stunning I have decided to plan a Russian vacation in a couple of months, which area would you recommend I book my hotel in Moscow so as I am in the heart of all the action?

[QUOTE=Gsi2810;2214374] which area would you recommend I book my hotel in Moscow so as I am in the heart of all the action?[/QUOTE]Of course, it all depends on your budget, but booking a hotel in the center of Moscow would put you in the heart to the action. A few suggestions;.

[URL]https://www.standarthotel.com/en/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.ihg.com/holidayinn/hotels/us/en/moscow/mowlu/hoteldetail?cm_mmc=GoogleMaps-_-HI-_-RU-_-MOWLU[/URL]

[URL]http://www.sheratonpalace.ru/en[/URL]

I consider these to all be middle of the road hotels. There are both cheaper and more expensive. If you use these as guides for [URL]www.booking.com[/URL], you should get a nice range of choices.

Enjoy.

Jake.

I know this is the Moscow thread and I try to help out here from time to time. In the vein of helping enthusiasts worldwide, let me tell you I am now ruined for life having just visited Brazil for the first time.

If you enjoyed my Moscow antics, check out my reports on 5 girls in 24 hours in São Paulo. I have sessioned in Russia, Thailand, USA, Germany, China, Japan, Spain, UK. And Brazil blows them all away for quality and price. I have lived a sheltered life!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2214990]I know this is the Moscow thread and I try to help out here from time to time. In the vein of helping enthusiasts worldwide, let me tell you I am now ruined for life having just visited Brazil for the first time.

If you enjoyed my Moscow antics, check out my reports on 5 girls in 24 hours in So Paulo. I have sessioned in Russia, Thailand, USA, Germany, China, Japan, Spain, UK. And Brazil blows them all away for quality and price. I have lived a sheltered life![/QUOTE]Fortunately, I have experienced that during last six years. Brazilian girls are out of this world. During the World Cup the biggest amount of clients in St. Petersburg apartments (AM brand) were Brazilians (according the girls), then Chinese. For Brazilian men white Eastern European girls are most desirable (according their personal feedback but for sure it is individual). In Moscow, I chose from [URL]www.dosug.cz[/URL] (VPN or TOR needed).

[QUOTE=Jake993;2214943]Of course, it all depends on your budget, but booking a hotel in the center of Moscow would put you in the heart to the action. A few suggestions;.

[URL]https://www.standarthotel.com/en/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.ihg.com/holidayinn/hotels/us/en/moscow/mowlu/hoteldetail?cm_mmc=GoogleMaps-_-HI-_-RU-_-MOWLU[/URL]

[URL]http://www.sheratonpalace.ru/en[/URL]

I consider these to all be middle of the road hotels. There are both cheaper and more expensive. If you use these as guides for [URL]www.booking.com[/URL], you should get a nice range of choices.

Enjoy.

Jake.[/QUOTE]Thanks a ton for the help Jake, I'm kind of making a semi party mongering list, currently it has three entries. Pattaya (love this to bits), Angeles City (Philippines), Moscow and German cities which have a lot of FKK clubs. Would you or any other senior like to add to the same?

[QUOTE=Gsi2810;2215207]Thanks a ton for the help Jake, I'm kind of making a semi party mongering list, currently it has three entries. Pattaya (love this to bits), Angeles City (Philippines), Moscow and German cities which have a lot of FKK clubs. Would you or any other senior like to add to the same?[/QUOTE]Fuck add Said Paulo (and Rio?) For sure. I have had four of the best looking women Ever in 15 years of this. And $50-$200 is typical all in. What? Legendary. Not to be missed.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2215247]Fuck add Said Paulo (and Rio?) For sure. I have had four of the best looking women Ever in 15 years of this. And $50-$200 is typical all in. What? Legendary. Not to be missed.[/QUOTE]Have added these places as well but damn they are way too far from my country and the flight itself would cost as much two mongering holidays in Pattaya when is that damn hyperloop technology is coming!

Hi all,

I am in Moscow this week and could use some help please.

I'm staying pretty central at a luxury hotel, and I'm looking for a couple of recommendations for a escort to come to my hotel. Somebody who does PSE and is known for great services.

Also any club for a Friday night would be awesome?

Hi all,

Please could I ask for some help?

I'm in Moscow this week and looking for a couple of girls to visit me at my hotel, any links to known superstars would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=EsinburghMan1;2216586]Hi all,

I am in Moscow this week and could use some help please.

I'm staying pretty central at a luxury hotel, and I'm looking for a couple of recommendations for a escort to come to my hotel. Somebody who does PSE and is known for great services.

Also any club for a Friday night would be awesome?[/QUOTE]Aurora and Penthouse are both great for strip shows, nice talent and onsite fucking. Aurora is a bit more of a crowded high end scene, but the girls at Penthouse are still good and less male competition. Can't go wrong with either. If you want only stripping and no onsite services then Golden Girls.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2216706]Aurora and Penthouse are both great for strip shows, nice talent and onsite fucking. Aurora is a bit more of a crowded high end scene, but the girls at Penthouse are still good and less male competition. Can't go wrong with either. If you want only stripping and no onsite services then Golden Girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip I will definitely go to Aurora and report back.

Are there any reliable websites to order a girl to my hotel?

[QUOTE=Gsi2810;2215207]Thanks a ton for the help Jake, I'm kind of making a semi party mongering list, currently it has three entries. Pattaya (love this to bits), Angeles City (Philippines), Moscow and German cities which have a lot of FKK clubs. Would you or any other senior like to add to the same?[/QUOTE]You're missing the Macau saunas which are the best in the world; better even than the FKK clubs.

Hi folks,

For my first Moscow visit.

1) Do you know if "Mercure Moscow Paveletskaya" is girlfriendly? Is there any lobbygirls?

2) I want to find some escort girls to spend whole night, including some time in club and in the hotel. Any advise rather than rusdosug? Most look fake on rusdosug.

3) Is there any bar or club that I can go and definitely pick some worker (at least average looking)? Do you know pricing average? For an hour or for a night?

4) Any club advise you have, to pick girls easily? (Age between 18-40).

Many thanks!

[QUOTE=YPumper;2218455]Hi folks,

For my first Moscow visit.

1) Do you know if "Mercure Moscow Paveletskaya" is girlfriendly? Is there any lobbygirls?

2) I want to find some escort girls to spend whole night, including some time in club and in the hotel. Any advise rather than rusdosug? Most look fake on rusdosug.

3) Is there any bar or club that I can go and definitely pick some worker (at least average looking)? Do you know pricing average? For an hour or for a night?

4) Any club advise you have, to pick girls easily? (Age between 18-40).

Many thanks![/QUOTE]Responses:

1. Mercure Paveletskaya is near the Paveletskaya rail station. This is good from a mongering perspective because you will get a lot of country girls coming in looking to make some money. If you don't see any in the lobby, wander over to the Torro Grill, or any other other restaurant bars in the area. There are sure to be girls.

2. Believe it or not, Rusdosug is a pretty good bet. Yes, some are fake photos, but most of the time they are pretty real. Sorry to say that most of the fake photos are from the girls who are in the "English" section of the web site.

3. Night Flight is always the old faithful of hooker bars. But IMHO, it has gone way downhill over the years.

4. Old School Pub, Bar BQ (several locations), Papas Place, the list goes on.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2214943]Of course, it all depends on your budget, but booking a hotel in the center of Moscow would put you in the heart to the action. A few suggestions;.

[URL]https://www.standarthotel.com/en/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.ihg.com/holidayinn/hotels/us/en/moscow/mowlu/hoteldetail?cm_mmc=GoogleMaps-_-HI-_-RU-_-MOWLU[/URL]

[URL]http://www.sheratonpalace.ru/en[/URL]

I consider these to all be middle of the road hotels. There are both cheaper and more expensive. If you use these as guides for [URL]www.booking.com[/URL], you should get a nice range of choices.

Enjoy.

Jake.[/QUOTE]Hello,

I would like to know if these hotels are good for inviting girl from rusdosug or intimcity website? I mean no problem with hotel reception, no key card, no fee asked from staff member for guest (escort), no guest limitation: someone on this forum said he booked 2 girls but receptionist from his hotel refuse to let enter both girls and guy has been forced to take a room in another hotel to swap girls. And also a 24/24 open hotel will be great of course, so I am wondering if these hotel are 24/24.

Is it necessary according to you to know cyrillic and russian language for a moscow trip?

Guys,

I am just back from a vist to Moscow. I found it really soffit I book a girl on intimcity, no response as a real issue. The girls in Russia are the most beautiful in Europe and I travel a lot.

Eventually I managed to book Emily on my last night [URL]http://www.cityoflove.com/detailpictures.aspx?lang=en-US&dID=273787&dStaffID=239583&Digest=okO/iHLwEkEgicxZoPAcKQ[/URL].

She was really beautiful and willing to do everything and I mean everything. The only problem was she turned up without any condoms and was willing to go bareback as long as I only came in her ass and "not in her pussy".

Luckily I have some condoms in my bag but I must say I was tempted to take her up on her offer. But common sense prevailed.

I probably wouldn't use her again but she was really pretty.

[QUOTE=EsinburghMan1;2219649]Guys,

I am just back from a vist to Moscow. I found it really soffit I book a girl on intimcity, no response as a real issue. The girls in Russia are the most beautiful in Europe and I travel a lot.

Eventually I managed to book Emily on my last night [URL]http://www.cityoflove.com/detailpictures.aspx?lang=en-US&dID=273787&dStaffID=239583&Digest=okO/iHLwEkEgicxZoPAcKQ[/URL].

She was really beautiful and willing to do everything and I mean everything. The only problem was she turned up without any condoms and was willing to go bareback as long as I only came in her ass and "not in her pussy".

Luckily I have some condoms in my bag but I must say I was tempted to take her up on her offer. But common sense prevailed.

I probably wouldn't use her again but she was really pretty.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. She is really pretty. Did you pay USD200 an hour. Quite expensive.

[QUOTE=LittleImp;2219326]Hello,

I would like to know if these hotels are good for inviting girl from rusdosug or intimcity website? I mean no problem with hotel reception, no key card, no fee asked from staff member for guest (escort), no guest limitation: someone on this forum said he booked 2 girls but receptionist from his hotel refuse to let enter both girls and guy has been forced to take a room in another hotel to swap girls. And also a 24/24 open hotel will be great of course, so I am wondering if these hotel are 24/24.

Is it necessary according to you to know cyrillic and russian language for a moscow trip?[/QUOTE]Thanks to World Cup, Moscow has become a European city for all intents and mongering purposes. Worst case, they will ask your guest to show and register her passport at the front desk. And more for your security than anything else. By the way, once a girl shows her passport at the front desk, the odds of her stealing anything from you are significantly reduced. As for knowledge of the Cyrillic alphabet and the Russian language, World Cup pretty much took care of that. I mean, when the ticket window at the metro station has "WE SPEAK ENGLISH" boldly written in red letters, you KNOW you don't need to know Cyrillic or Russian to get by. It's good to know; but not absolutely necessary.

Regarding your question about 2 girls in your room. Dude, just tell them you are having a party. Worst case, have a word with the doorman, slip him $20 and he'll sneak the second one up the back way. Don't sweat it.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2220335]Thanks to World Cup, Moscow has become a European city for all intents and mongering purposes. Worst case, they will ask your guest to show and register her passport at the front desk. And more for your security than anything else. By the way, once a girl shows her passport at the front desk, the odds of her stealing anything from you are significantly reduced. As for knowledge of the Cyrillic alphabet and the Russian language, World Cup pretty much took care of that. I mean, when the ticket window at the metro station has "WE SPEAK ENGLISH" boldly written in red letters, you KNOW you don't need to know Cyrillic or Russian to get by. It's good to know; but not absolutely necessary.

Regarding your question about 2 girls in your room. Dude, just tell them you are having a party. Worst case, have a word with the doorman, slip him $20 and he'll sneak the second one up the back way. Don't sweat it.[/QUOTE]Thank you Jake! What about hotels suggestion: 24/24, no key card, budget wise just good enough for girls accepting to come? What about visa registration? Do you ask hotel to alert local authorities?

[QUOTE=LittleImp;2220374]Thank you Jake! What about hotels suggestion: 24/24, no key card, budget wise just good enough for girls accepting to come? What about visa registration? Do you ask hotel to alert local authorities?[/QUOTE] www.booking.com Hotels will take care of your visa registration.

Hi guys,

Planning my first trip to Moscow in October and have been reading from page 15 onwards. Loads of info and very useful chaps on there, the likes of Jake etc. I read that many clubs have face control at the entrance. What do they look for? Dress code, drunk or not. Will it matter if I am Indian looking?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hsin22;2225525]Hi guys,

Planning my first trip to Moscow in October and have been reading from page 15 onwards. Loads of info and very useful chaps on there, the likes of Jake etc. I read that many clubs have face control at the entrance. What do they look for? Dress code, drunk or not. Will it matter if I am Indian looking?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]That's a good question. I order of importance, I would say that FC is looking for;.

1. Drunk guys. They won't let you in of you look like you have had too much to drink and might cause trouble.

2. Skin Color. I apologize if this offends anyone but most of the "gopniks" they have running FC (face control) are racist as hell. And they seem to have a dislike of people whom they think are "black". So what exactly does that mean? To a Russian, being "black" does not necessarily mean you are African. It just means that you are not white. And in Russian terms, that means that you might be from parts of the "empire" that some Russians do not consider desirable. These places might be, but are not limited to, Tajikistan, Kyrgystan, Chechnya, Georgia, Azerbaijan, etc. Guys from these places trying to get into some Moscow clubs are going to have a hard time. And by way of extension, if one is "Indian Looking" as you put it, you might well be lumped into that same category and be considered undesirable.

Having said all of that, in Russia "Money Talks". I'm not saying that you need to bribe your way in, but if you look like you "belong" in that club then FC will let you in. At the risk of being patronizing, I would say that means paying attention to grooming and dress. What FC is looking for from a dark skinned man is drab, nondescript clothing and a two day old growth of scruffy beard. Add a pair of trainers and you will most certainly be denied entrance. This does not mean that you need to cover yourself in "bling", but dressing up a bit will most certainly improve your chances of entrance and certainly improve your chances with the ladies.

Good luck!

Hi all,

Anyone has already tried Nejno massage parlour (nejno. Ru) ? They have 2 venues in Moscow. Would consider to try one during my first stay in Moscow next month but any advise would be appreciated. Of course, I read the forum but couldn't find anything so far. Thank you in advance.

Brilliant as usual Jake, thanks ever so much.

Hope that people and girls in Moscow are not as bad as the "gopniks".

[QUOTE=Jake993;2225610]That's a good question. I order of importance, I would say that FC is looking for;.

1. Drunk guys. They won't let you in of you look like you have had too much to drink and might cause trouble.

2. Skin Color. I apologize if this offends anyone but most of the "gopniks" they have running FC (face control) are racist as hell. And they seem to have a dislike of people whom they think are "black". So what exactly does that mean? To a Russian, being "black" does not necessarily mean you are African. It just means that you are not white. And in Russian terms, that means that you might be from parts of the "empire" that some Russians do not consider desirable. These places might be, but are not limited to, Tajikistan, Kyrgystan, Chechnya, Georgia, Azerbaijan, etc. Guys from these places trying to get into some Moscow clubs are going to have a hard time. And by way of extension, if one is "Indian Looking" as you put it, you might well be lumped into that same category and be considered undesirable.[/QUOTE]

Totally correct, one thing, go early before there are lines to get into the Clubs, 10:30-11:30. I would tip the guys a $5-10, can not hurt, once you are in no issues. I personally like the Face Control, because it keeps the places nice. Unlike Kiev, were there are no rules, no Face Control and Sex Tourist everywhere, that do not behave, this has ruined the City. Bad behavior is not tolerated in Moscow, no problem getting a little crazy, but respect and good behavior is important.

They are racists and cold and first, but once you get to know them they are great people. Can not say enough positives things about Moscow.

Love Moscow, so much fun and beautiful Everywhere. I will be there in late November and end of December.

Thank you. Agree with you, heard great things about Moscow and Muscovites. Bouncers are horrible all across the world, in Berlin, London etc. I guess that their job.

But they do a good job at keeping the place respectable as you said. Good tip about going early and tipping, will do that.

Going 12 Oct, will miss you there!

Is it true that entry is Rub 10,000?

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2226317]Totally correct, one thing, go early before there are lines to get into the Clubs, 10:30-11:30. I would tip the guys a $5-10, can not hurt, once you are in no issues. I personally like the Face Control, because it keeps the places nice. Unlike Kiev, were there are no rules, no Face Control and Sex Tourist everywhere, that do not behave, this has ruined the City. Bad behavior is not tolerated in Moscow, no problem getting a little crazy, but respect and good behavior is important.

They are racists and cold and first, but once you get to know them they are great people. Can not say enough positives things about Moscow.

Love Moscow, so much fun and beautiful Everywhere. I will be there in late November and end of December.[/QUOTE]

Hey! I have been reading this sections and I am now starting to becoming interested in a 2-3 day trip mainly focusing on touristing during days and stripclubs during nights. How would you describe the style of Girls in the most popular clubs: Penthouse, Night Flight, Aurora, Angels, etc? On Instagram many of the sexy Russian Girls seems to have filled lips, long sexy Nails and often silicone boobs: exactly my style. Can you find this type of Girls in the clubs? I can't get a feeling for the look / style looking at the Escort pages. Possibly due to the stolen pics talked about here. .

[QUOTE=Wiild;2227124]Hey! I have been reading this sections and I am now starting to becoming interested in a 2-3 day trip mainly focusing on touristing during days and stripclubs during nights. How would you describe the style of Girls in the most popular clubs: Penthouse, Night Flight, Aurora, Angels, etc? On Instagram many of the sexy Russian Girls seems to have filled lips, long sexy Nails and often silicone boobs: exactly my style. Can you find this type of Girls in the clubs? I can't get a feeling for the look / style looking at the Escort pages. Possibly due to the stolen pics talked about here. .[/QUOTE]Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse will have a mix, including girls like you mention.

Night Flight is a horse of a different color. The format is not strip club but rather (p4 p) pickup bar (and does not have on-site rooms either). The girls at Night flight also tend towards 30+ age group. Nonetheless found a nice girl there. But probably not the type you are after.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2225610]
I apologize if this offends anyone but most of the "gopniks" they have running FC (face control) are racist as hell.
[/QUOTE]No offense but you do not know what гопник means. They would never run FC of those clubs your wrote, neither any of the respectable ones. You may think the FC guys ATTITUDE is similar, but гопник is a low social status person among with other qualities and with different dress code, so they do not pass the FC to work as FC, not to mention to enter to those clubs. What I adore is that girls in Russia have FC too. Wish that FC would spread worldwide. LOL.

Dress code is important in Russia and soberness too.

Hey! I have been reading this sections and I am now starting to becoming interested in a 2-3 day trip mainly focusing on touristic during days and strip clubs during nights. How would you describe the style of Girls in the most popular clubs: Penthouse, Night Flight, Aurora, Angels, etc? On Instagram many of the sexy Russian Girls seems to have filled lips, long sexy Nails and often silicone boobs: exactly my style. Can you find this type of Girls in the clubs? I can't get a feeling for the look / style looking at the Escort pages. Possibly due to the stolen pics talked about here.

Most Beautiful Girls in the Word by far. So much fun, they are crazy and wild. I was very successful using SA and Night Clubs. Went the Strip Clubs, but the club I went to girls were not able to give out there number, so I gave up.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2227218]No offense but you do not know what гопник means. They would never run FC of those clubs your wrote, neither any of the respectable ones. You may think the FC guys ATTITUDE is similar, but гопник is a low social status person among with other qualities and with different dress code, so they do not pass the FC to work as FC, not to mention to enter to those clubs. What I adore is that girls in Russia have FC too. Wish that FC would spread worldwide. LOL.

Dress code is important in Russia and soberness too.[/QUOTE]This link will get you a complete definition: [URL]http://lurkmore.to/%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA[/URL].

[QUOTE=Questner;2227280]This link will get you a complete definition: [URL]http://lurkmore.to/%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks but I do not need one. There are lot of links and videos explaining in Russian available in the web but I have seen gopniks enough in Russia. But I never saw gopniks as FC in the entrance of below written clubs and other clubs in Moscow and St. Petersburg nor had refused entrance to all those where I went. Always got a polite welcome.

Of course, one can always ask from FC guys that are they gopniks when it seems so. LOL.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2227221]they are crazy and wild. I was very successful using SA and Night Clubs.[/QUOTE]Thanks DF, sounds exciting. What are your favorite night clubs for flirting / pick up? Seeking arrangement I might try. Do you register as a local Moscow or under your own location and just Contact Girls saying your in Town for business?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2227182]Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse will have a mix, including girls like you mention.

Night Flight is a horse of a different color. The format is not strip club but rather (p4 p) pickup bar (and does not have on-site rooms either). The girls at Night flight also tend towards 30+ age group. Nonetheless found a nice girl there. But probably not the type you are after.[/QUOTE]Thanks Steve. For confirmation on Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse. P4 p pickup bars are exciting. So might check out, but as you say. Less chance of certain looks. But possibly some sexy 30-40 year old MILF types? .

[QUOTE=Wiild;2227393]Thanks Steve. For confirmation on Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse. P4 p pickup bars are exciting. So might check out, but as you say. Less chance of certain looks. But possibly some sexy 30-40 year old MILF types? .[/QUOTE]Yes. I had a lovely gal Mariya. She was surely mid to late thirties but very pretty. She knew her way around the bedroom. It was neither DFK nor BBBJ two of my faves but somehow it worked anyhow. Her CBJ was marvelous and great doggie so I managed two pops. It was about $200 as I recall.

Beware that NF is NOTHING like the website. It is rather dark and no party atmosphere. But if you want quick in and out it serves the purpose. My plan was to go and if it didn't work out move on to A or A Or P since the cover is small. But hey sometimes it works out!

Thanks DF, sounds exciting. What are your favorite night clubs for flirting / pick up? Seeking arrangement I might try. Do you register as a local Moscow or under your own location and just Contact Girls saying your in Town for business?

Honestly, Friday nights everything is good. I spent a lot of time at Duran Bar, with SA, escorts was booked up solid.

Thanks Steve and Dramafree. I am going to do some more thinking / planning before booking my trip. I would need a visa and Cold Russia Winter is coming so we'll see if I make it this year or go for some easier visa free destination (Frankfurt, Madrid, Kiev).

Anyone use this site before?

Prostitutkivmoskve2.

All,

I'm really looking forward for my visit in Moscow in a couple of weeks. Still got a few question after reading 30 pages on this fantastic forum.

Hope that you very helpful guys can help me again.

1. Is it generally safe to go in-call?

2. Is the hourly price for 1 hour or for 1 shot. In many places, like Warsaw, time is up after the first cum even if you pay for 1 hour and cum in 5 minutes. In London, you cum as many times as you can within your hour. What the state of play in Moscow?

3. What about massage, I read on this forum that they stop after you cum.

4. What message to you usually send to the escorts on WhatsApp? Will this work? "Hello darling, saw you on Intimlife and would like to see you for 1 hour".

5. What is the entry fees at Night Flight, Penthouse, Aurora, Egoist etc? Heard you have to pay Rub 10,000 to get in.

Happy to share experience in Berlin and London in return.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hsin22;2228482]All,

I'm really looking forward for my visit in Moscow in a couple of weeks. Still got a few question after reading 30 pages on this fantastic forum.

Hope that you very helpful guys can help me again.

1. Is it generally safe to go in-call?

2. Is the hourly price for 1 hour or for 1 shot. In many places, like Warsaw, time is up after the first cum even if you pay for 1 hour and cum in 5 minutes. In London, you cum as many times as you can within your hour. What the state of play in Moscow?

3. What about massage, I read on this forum that they stop after you cum.

4. What message to you usually send to the escorts on WhatsApp? Will this work? "Hello darling, saw you on Intimlife and would like to see you for 1 hour".

5. What is the entry fees at Night Flight, Penthouse, Aurora, Egoist etc? Heard you have to pay Rub 10,000 to get in.

Happy to share experience in Berlin and London in return.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Re: number 5. No way. Cover is like $30 or something. And the same guy owns all three. If you don't like the lineup they have a limo to take you to theothers.

[QUOTE=Wiild;2227892]Thanks Steve and Dramafree. I am going to do some more thinking / planning before booking my trip. I would need a visa and Cold Russia Winter is coming so we'll see if I make it this year or go for some easier visa free destination (Frankfurt, Madrid, Kiev).[/QUOTE]If you are uncertain where to go, go to Brazil. No question. Great prices, hot girls, and turning to spring. Can't beat it. See my extensive São Paulo reports for deets.

Agree with Steve.

Berlin is also great. Insomnia (Thursdays), Annie Porsche, Erlebniswohnung are great flat rate places. Airport girls is cheap and cheerful, but you pay what you get. Artemis is a great FKK too.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2228524]If you are uncertain where to go, go to Brazil. No question. Great prices, hot girls, and turning to spring. Can't beat it. See my extensive So Paulo reports for deets.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hsin22;2228698]Agree with Steve.

Berlin is also great. Insomnia (Thursdays), Annie Porsche, Erlebniswohnung are great flat rate places. Airport girls is cheap and cheerful, but you pay what you get. Artemis is a great FKK too.[/QUOTE]Haha, thanks for the tips but as you might have seen from my numbers of reports I am not a TOTAL newbie! I have been to Brazil twice and Germany serveral times, Artemis is a favorite of mine and Brazil was fantastic in so many ways. I don't plan my travels ONLY to go to the best Place for mongering. Moscow seems exotic, weird, challenging. It is only a 2 hour 150 dollar trip away from me and I like the look of Russian Girls and I also like what I hear about the clubs. I love the feeling of slightly forbidden luxury partying with sexy barbies.

Any particular reason for the up tick in chatter here? Scene improving, better value now?

Rio, no way. Not cheap, dirty. Very dangerous, bad Food and shitty Service. Girls OK, Russia, Colombia, Europe, Mexico and Germany, way better choices than Rio.

Moscow Million times better.

I not familiar with S. P, but I am sure much better, than Rio.

Any particular reason for the up tick in chatter here? Scene improving, better value now?

Moscow is awesome, so much to offer.

Love the Visa systems, keeps out the loser that are ruining other destinations.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2229794]Rio, no way. Not cheap, dirty. Very dangerous, bad Food and shitty Service. Girls OK, Russia, Colombia, Europe, Mexico and Germany, way better choices than Rio.

Moscow Million times better.

I not familiar with S. P, but I am sure much better, than Rio.[/QUOTE]Can compare to SP, but not to RJ. Biggest difference is that in Brazil even the ugliest looking men can get laid for their money more likely as in Asia or some other countries in South America. In Russia that chance is almost impossible. The girls just tell you to get the F..k out of here! And complaining makes the things even worse. Food is good in SP but it always depends where you eat and what as in Russia. For service of the girls, SP beats all Russia easily as all the other places in the world.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2230186]Any particular reason for the up tick in chatter here? Scene improving, better value now?

Moscow is awesome, so much to offer.

Love the Visa systems, keeps out the loser that are ruining other destinations.[/QUOTE]The visa system is good, they will keep it this way as per yesterday confirmation by government. I dislike more braggers who write the reports with Guiness record achievements about quantities of girls for a day but forgot mention about quantity of vitamins (Viagra etc.) taken to achieve that. A legal doping.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2230419]The visa system is good, they will keep it this way as per yesterday confirmation by government. I dislike more braggers who write the reports with Guiness record achievements about quantities of girls for a day but forgot mention about quantity of vitamins (Viagra etc.) taken to achieve that. A legal doping.[/QUOTE]I'm a big fan of Russians, their president and their women not the least. I've never visited the country, only transferred flights in Moscow. I will most likely travel to Moscow next year, hopefully in the summer. Visa is a good idea. A country must protect itself from dishonest people. Europe today is really a mess starting to feel like no man's land.

[QUOTE=Hsin22;2225525]Hi guys,

Planning my first trip to Moscow in October and have been reading from page 15 onwards. Loads of info and very useful chaps on there, the likes of Jake etc. I read that many clubs have face control at the entrance. What do they look for? Dress code, drunk or not. Will it matter if I am Indian looking?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I am quite often guest in Moscow and know many girls. So if you want any recommendation. Just ask. No worries about face control, better not to be drunk LOL, just casual dress code is fine. Last time we were with a friend of mine, he is from India (now working in Moscow)- everything was OK, without any difficulties.

Have a great time! Russian girls are great and very hot.

[QUOTE=Wiild;2229204]Haha, thanks for the tips but as you might have seen from my numbers of reports I am not a TOTAL newbie! I have been to Brazil twice and Germany serveral times, Artemis is a favorite of mine and Brazil was fantastic in so many ways. I don't plan my travels ONLY to go to the best Place for mongering. Moscow seems exotic, weird, challenging. It is only a 2 hour 150 dollar trip away from me and I like the look of Russian Girls and I also like what I hear about the clubs. I love the feeling of slightly forbidden luxury partying with sexy barbies.[/QUOTE]Dude, I should have checked your profile. I thought you were the average guy who's done one or two spots, but clearly you have quite a lot of depth. Definitely check out Moscow. It is great fun and it's always a blast to discover something new. The strip club with onsite rooms is indeed a great format. You will have no shortage of fun if you have the coin for it. Avoid Rasputin's. Stick to Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2230426]I'm a big fan of Russians, their president and their women not the least. I've never visited the country, only transferred flights in Moscow. I will most likely travel to Moscow next year, hopefully in the summer. Visa is a good idea. A country must protect itself from dishonest people. Europe today is really a mess starting to feel like no man's land.[/QUOTE]I am not of fan any nation nor the presidents but I understand your point. A strong leader. In Europe illegal intruders get apartment and money support, in Russia they will get only apartment for a few years for intruding illegally and food instead of money and must work every day, learn Russian for survive. Then they would be deported back to where they belong. Add at least St. Petersburg to your trip, if Baykal lake for nature is too far or not interesting. Take a train (can purchase tickets online ahead) or airplane (choose from those: Aeroflot, S7,Rossiya).

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2230488]Dude, I should have checked your profile. I thought you were the average guy who's done one or two spots, but clearly you have quite a lot of depth. Definitely check out Moscow. It is great fun and it's always a blast to discover something new. The strip club with onsite rooms is indeed a great format. You will have no shortage of fun if you have the coin for it. Avoid Rasputin's. Stick to Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse.[/QUOTE]Haha, no worries Steve. Thanks for tips, we'll see if I go. In contrast to other posters here I am not a big fan of border-controls, visa-restrictions and treating people different due to ethnicity or class, in my eyes we are all equal international mongers. .

Hi,

Does anybody know "love hotel" in Moscow having those things ready for boosting up the pleasure?

You know. Mirrors, swing, pole, or ropes.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Coyle;2233932]Hi,

Does anybody know "love hotel" in Moscow having those things ready for boosting up the pleasure?

You know. Mirrors, swing, pole, or ropes.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Ha ha ha. It's called banya!

Many (but not all) higher end banya of sauna facilities have a bedroom with those "accouterments".

[URL]https://sauna.ru/[/URL]

Guys,

Currently in Moscow and struggling to change British Pounds to Rubble.

Any advice where to go please.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hsin22;2235574]Guys,

Currently in Moscow and struggling to change British Pounds to Rubble.

Any advice where to go please.

Thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.banki.ru/products/currency/cash/gbp/moskva/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Hsin22;2235574]Guys,

Currently in Moscow and struggling to change British Pounds to Rubble.

Any advice where to go please.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are NUMEROUS currency exchange places all over Moscow. Banks are usually the most expensive.

There is one near Mayakovaskaya reputed to give the best exchange rate. It's on Tverskaya between the metro station and the Marriott Grand hotel.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2235845]There are NUMEROUS currency exchange places all over Moscow. Banks are usually the most expensive.

There is one near Mayakovaskaya reputed to give the best exchange rate. It's on Tverskaya between the metro station and the Marriott Grand hotel.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jake and traveller44. I'm staying at Grand Mariott and I went exactly there.

Are there any good walk-in sex place in Moscow, like the massage place where you choose the girls, but for sex. I know there is Aurora and Penthouse, but I want somewhere for day visit.

I found these 2 links on the forum, but not too sure if they still exist as I cannot find them.

[URL]http://charmel.info/[/URL] and [URL]www.fantasys.org[/URL].

It is a little tricky to find girl so far as I don't speak any Russian!

Thanks all.

[QUOTE=Hsin22;2235574]Guys,

Currently in Moscow and struggling to change British Pounds to Rubble.

Any advice where to go please.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you see a sign go there. They are usually small booths.

[QUOTE=Hsin22;2235892]Thanks Jake and traveller44. I'm staying at Grand Mariott and I went exactly there.

Are there any good walk-in sex place in Moscow, like the massage place where you choose the girls, but for sex. I know there is Aurora and Penthouse, but I want somewhere for day visit.

I found these 2 links on the forum, but not too sure if they still exist as I cannot find them.

[URL]http://charmel.info/[/URL] and [URL]www.fantasys.org[/URL].

It is a little tricky to find girl so far as I don't speak any Russian!

Thanks all.[/QUOTE]How exactly you cannot find them? There is address and phone number written in their website. They are legit, but seeing the photos, the price is overrated for me. I attach you a link with other salon options. [URL]https://www.dosug.cz/ru/d/part/1[/URL] . You can change to English version. Always call ahead when you know exactly who you want to ask is she there or will she come. If you go to first time to any salon, go to the address and give a call, they will explain you how to enter. Usually no signs. Therefore, if they do not speak English or you Russian, it will be complicated to find a right place.

I saw this agency and the girls look amazing. Any reviews?

[URL]http://beauties-students.ru/main.php[/URL]

[QUOTE=Hsin22;2235892]

I found these 2 links on the forum, but not too sure if they still exist as I cannot find them.

[URL]http://charmel.info/[/URL] and [URL]www.fantasys.org[/URL].

It is a little tricky to find girl so far as I don't speak any Russian!

Thanks all.[/QUOTE]Both still exist. And both are within walking distance of your hotel.

As for language, two years ago I would have said that you are out of luck if you don't speak Russian. However, since WC, it seems that Moscow has become and English friendly city. Call up either number and ask if someone can speak English. Chances are, there will be someone who can give you instructions. Now, these are not clubs or massage parlors per se. So there is no store front or sign to look for. Call the number and they will tell you where to go. For Charmel, you look for John Donne Pub on Nikitsky Bulvar and someone will meet you and take you to in. These are both knocking shops. There will be a line up of girls available for sex. Massage is not really their thing.

IF you want massage, there are literally HUNDREDS of massage parlor in the center of Moscow most of which will have sex on the menu.

[QUOTE=KidNPlay;2236139]I saw this agency and the girls look amazing. Any reviews?

[URL]http://beauties-students.ru/main.php[/URL][/QUOTE]Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, about 10 years ago! Some of the photos are the same! Seriously, generally reputable with minimal bait-and-switch.

IMHO, you are better off going with [URL]www.rusdosug.com[/URL] and select one of the English speakers. These girls are generally independent and will save you money and headache.

Guys,

Sorry to just ask questions at this stage but will post about my experience. I am an Asian expert and totally new to Moscow. Just got called to go there for 24 hours on short notice so trying to catch up by reading but need some help. By the way I speak no Russian. Guys recommend Penthouse, Aurora and Angels. Can you fuck the girls there or are they just strip clubs? Where best to have a few drinks and a safe fuck early in the day like late afternoon / early evening? Sorry to just ask questions but I leave tomorrow and total newbie to the Russian scene.

Follow up question. Any girls known to hang out at hotels near Sheremtyevo Airport? Or clubs close by where some English is spoken? What about the Novotel Airport?

[QUOTE=Jake993;2236192]Both still exist. And both are within walking distance of your hotel.

As for language, two years ago I would have said that you are out of luck if you don't speak Russian. However, since WC, it seems that Moscow has become and English friendly city. Call up either number and ask if someone can speak English. Chances are, there will be someone who can give you instructions. Now, these are not clubs or massage parlors per se. So there is no store front or sign to look for. Call the number and they will tell you where to go. For Charmel, you look for John Donne Pub on Nikitsky Bulvar and someone will meet you and take you to in. These are both knocking shops. There will be a line up of girls available for sex. Massage is not really their thing.

IF you want massage, there are literally HUNDREDS of massage parlor in the center of Moscow most of which will have sex on the menu.[/QUOTE]Thanks again Jake. Left Moscow already by the time I saw your message. Called the number a few times but no one pick the phone. May be I should have called from a Russian phone instead of UK. I enjoyed the massage parlours very much though, mainly due to the difficulty in finding escorts. I will post a report soon.

All,

Came back for 3 days mongering trip in Moscow. Longer report coming but a quick tip on SIM card. Get one as soon as you reach Moscow, it is pretty cheap and the 4 G quality is brilliant in Moscow. However, make sure you get one that can call landline and allow you to send messages. The one I got could not call landline numbers for extra cost. Only mobiles. Also you cannot send messages on the network. Not all girls have What'sApp or Viber, so sending messages in important especially if you don't speak English well.

[QUOTE=GogoGuyz;2241830]Follow up question. Any girls known to hang out at hotels near Sheremtyevo Airport? Or clubs close by where some English is spoken? What about the Novotel Airport?[/QUOTE]No. They are mainly for transit purposes and no clubs nearby.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2236193]Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, about 10 years ago! Some of the photos are the same! Seriously, generally reputable with minimal bait-and-switch.

IMHO, you are better off going with [URL]www.rusdosug.com[/URL] and select one of the English speakers. These girls are generally independent and will save you money and headache.[/QUOTE]They are independents when it is written there. Most of them working in salons or apartments with a few girls at the same place. In St. Petersburg site, salon name is written after the girls name but it does not guarantee that when it is not written, you will get the independent girl. That is the reality in Russia.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2242076]They are independents when it is written there. Most of them working in salons or apartments with a few girls at the same place. In St. Petersburg site, salon name is written after the girls name but it does not guarantee that when it is not written, you will get the independent girl. That is the reality in Russia.[/QUOTE]I will second that. I ended up calling the same person (probably agency receptionist) 15 times on different numbers and she could not speak English despite claiming they can speak English. She got really annoyed in the end and shouted Fuck Off, Fuck Off. Oh well. They all tend to have the same price and same profile and location. That's how you know they are agency. There are some real independent if you look hard enough.

Thanks to Travellor44 for the reply. First time in Moscow. Decided to go to Penthouse. Seemed like a safe option. Mid week and could not stay late so arrived 9 pm. About 30 girls. I expected hassle from bar staff etc but no one even asked me to order a drink for ages. Maybe they are just afraid of speaking English. One girl at a time does the pole dance and gets naked while the other girls hang around on the sofas. Looks from 4/10 to 9/10. Started buying private table dances. Cost 2000 in a private room. Bit expensive for a song but it gives you an idea how the girl acts and her level of English. Spotted a cute slim girl and after a table dance asked who her best friend was and does she want to go with her for a threesome. I find girls with their best friends tends to work. Rooms for sex are downstairs. Nice and clean. Service from the two girls was very good. English level passable but friendly girls. Overall happy with my short night out and Penthouse is a good safe bet. Unfortunately it only opens at 9 pm like other similar strip clubs with on site fucking. Any recommendations for earlier evening fun for an English speaker in Moscow?

[QUOTE=GogoGuyz;2243754]Any recommendations for earlier evening fun for an English speaker in Moscow?[/QUOTE]Sadly, no.

They say "Moscow never sleeps". Unfortunately, that also means that nothing really gets going until 23:00 (11:00 PM).

The only other EARLY onsite sex option is the salon (ie. Charm El, Fantasys).

Alternatively, you might try a massage place (of which there are many) that offers sex.

Does anyone have an alternate way to contact Charmel or fantasy's? For some reason, and I might be dialing wrong or they might have foreign numbers blocked, the number always comes up as busy over 20 or so calls. Is it a place where I can show up and punch something into the keypad and get access? Can anyone share an exact address including the apt?

I will be traveling to Moscow next week and although I did look at the prior posts I can't pinpoint the following. Any assistance will be apprecaited. I'm looking for a genuine GFE, not the standard quickie. Thanks.

1. Which high end hotels are best to find girls?

2. Which sites are the most reliable?

3. Which fine banya can provide girls to spend time with in a private setting?

4. Where can I find girls that I can hire for the day with flexibility during my appointments?

5. Recommendations for a wingman to assist me with hunting.

Many thanks.

I haven't had any luck calling the other two shops in the family, Charmel or Fantasys (if someone could post the numbers as they should be dialed, I would appreciate it. I don't know if it's user error or what), but I was able to call Elit with no problem.

They weren't located anywhere close to the metro stop listed. They had me go to Novaya Basmannaya 25, which is a small grocery store. I called again and they sent this hulking Soviet science experiment looking guy to walk me to an apt a few doors down a side street. The apartment looked nice enough, but the girls. Yuck. There was one that was a little cute, but looked like she had a drug problem, 3 4-5's that were the type I would maybe do if it were free but would never pay for, and one who was like 6 foot 2, jacked, and I wasn't sure what kind of genitalia she was born with, which put a damper on the other girls who were already not hot.

At the end I decided to go to the Cosmonaut museum instead of tagging that mediocre crew. If anyone has contact info for a better salon, I would appreciate it.

Hey guys,

I will be in Moscow Nov 23 -Dec. 2 and Dec. 22nd -Jan. 2, let me know if anyone wants to meet up for a drink. I have to work a little during the day, but will be on American time, so I can sleep in I will be going out every night of the week.

Good luck.

Do you need to download it before one gets to Moscow, or is it too late once you're there?

[QUOTE=Calidru;2245338]I haven't had any luck calling the other two shops in the family, Charmel or Fantasys (if someone could post the numbers as they should be dialed, I would appreciate it. I don't know if it's user error or what), but I was able to call Elit with no problem.

They weren't located anywhere close to the metro stop listed. They had me go to Novaya Basmannaya 25, which is a small grocery store. I called again and they sent this hulking Soviet science experiment looking guy to walk me to an apt a few doors down a side street. The apartment looked nice enough, but the girls. Yuck. There was one that was a little cute, but looked like she had a drug problem, 3 4-5's that were the type I would maybe do if it were free but would never pay for, and one who was like 6 foot 2, jacked, and I wasn't sure what kind of genitalia she was born with, which put a damper on the other girls who were already not hot.

At the end I decided to go to the Cosmonaut museum instead of tagging that mediocre crew. If anyone has contact info for a better salon, I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Oh shit. That's not good news.

We just got in today and want to hit the strip clubs tonight before we leave, it is Saturday!

Do we all have to wear business attire, my trainers and casual gear look better and cost more than many business suits.

If anyone can opine I would appreciate it, ill post a report in the morning unless we get blocked at the door?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2246967]We just got in today and want to hit the strip clubs tonight before we leave, it is Saturday!

Do we all have to wear business attire, my trainers and casual gear look better and cost more than many business suits.

If anyone can opine I would appreciate it, ill post a report in the morning unless we get blocked at the door?[/QUOTE]If the strip club does not have a dress code, then you are in when the brand of your clothes is one of the top brands and style is smart casual. The cost does not matter because top brands are not cheap, the brand and style does. This is Russia.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2246967]We just got in today and want to hit the strip clubs tonight before we leave, it is Saturday!

Do we all have to wear business attire, my trainers and casual gear look better and cost more than many business suits.

If anyone can opine I would appreciate it, ill post a report in the morning unless we get blocked at the door?[/QUOTE]You don't need a sport coat or anything. But I recommend shoes not sneakers, nice shirt with collar and neat dark jeans and you should be fine. Had no problem attired like that. Recommend Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse for FS. Golden Girls for optics and lap dancing.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2246837]Oh shit. That's not good news.[/QUOTE]I used a translator and asked in Russian, English please.

They both hung up.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2247247]You don't need a sport coat or anything. But I recommend shoes not sneakers, nice shirt with collar and neat dark jeans and you should be fine. Had no problem attired like that. Recommend Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse for FS. Golden Girls for optics and lap dancing.[/QUOTE]Bad night in Moscow.

When I got to my hotel I believe it was 15 F.

Hit Penthouse 1st we go in 3-4 very very hot girls sitting on a couch with high end evening gowns sitting on a large leather couch.

We can't see where to pay, nobody speaks a word of English I mean nobody.

But when I see these hot WG my mind is going wowww I think I just hit the pussy lottery.

We find out they are just window dressing, I try to ask the hottest one, how many ruble to go to hotel, she keeps nodding no.

So we find out they are the front desk, we pay for entry 2000.

We go in, and I'm instantly disappointed after seeing them, that didn't help matters any.

So we look around, a few gazelles walked by, I'm thinking OK maybe we will find something here?

But when they come by to talk, a few have a couple words of English.

But I don't like them up close, even though the bodies were 10+.

I like very thin.

It was very dark in PH but even so I could see most of these girls are pushing mid 30's and higher.

And to make matters worse not very hot, if I saw any hot ones I would do her with the perfect body and face even if she was 35.

But I would say my best friend at home might like a few, the very tall big ass and fake tits, high BMI girls.

I don't like that, I don't want that for free, as a matter of fact you can't pay me to waste a bullet on them.

Prices were the final nail in the coffin, I would like to know if these are prices for English speaking tourists? Hahaaa.

18000 for the girl, 6000 for the room.

We need to try somewhere else maybe Nightflight tonite or Monday?

I really think they need to get rid of the girls at entry, they were incredible.

That just makes the ones inside that much more unappetizing.

There were 4-5 of them each one a 9 or 10, extremely hot!

This place is very posh, I don't really like that in a brothel.

They are trying to set a tone, and overcharge as a result.

If you can pack the girls at entry inside I'm guessing that works.

For a Saturday I would say I would have to say I was underwhelmed.

And I'm guessing I'm not the only one, the place was pretty dead.

If a sc is dead on a Saturday that's not a good sign.

Mongers are somewhere else, where?

Jonathan Pine wrote a great post about we are all the super hot WGs in Russia?

I hope I can find it.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2247516]Bad night in Moscow.[/QUOTE]MDS,

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience. Not to make excuses, but weekends are not the best in these places. Guys with money are with their families in their country houses or at least in the suburbs. Monday through Thursday definitely better. PH, The LOFT, Angles and Aurora 911 are all part of the same group. If you don't like the girls in one place, ask for the manager (who probably speaks English) and tell him you want to see a different club. They will send you by car to one of the other places and you should not have to pay the entrance again. Remember, these are not FKK's. Technically they are strip clubs so you can overtly come in the front door and treat them like hookers. If you do, the girls will scatter. [URL]http://clubangels.ru/about/bonus/[/URL]#.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2247516]Bad night in Moscow.

When I got to my hotel I believe it was 15 F.

Hit Penthouse 1st we go in 3-4 very very hot girls sitting on a couch with high end evening gowns sitting on a large leather couch.

We can't see where to pay, nobody speaks a word of English I mean nobody.

But when I see these hot WG my mind is going wowww I think I just hit the pussy lottery.

We find out they are just window dressing, I try to ask the hottest one, how many ruble to go to hotel, she keeps nodding no.

So we find out they are the front desk, we pay for entry 2000.

We go in, and I'm instantly disappointed after seeing them, that didn't help matters any.

So we look around, a few gazelles walked by, I'm thinking OK maybe we will find something here?

But when they come by to talk, a few have a couple words of English.

But I don't like them up close, even though the bodies were 10+.

I like very thin.

It was very dark in PH but even so I could see most of these girls are pushing mid 30's and higher.

And to make matters worse not very hot, if I saw any hot ones I would do her with the perfect body and face even if she was 35.

But I would say my best friend at home might like a few, the very tall big ass and fake tits, high BMI girls.

I don't like that, I don't want that for free, as a matter of fact you can't pay me to waste a bullet on them.

Prices were the final nail in the coffin, I would like to know if these are prices for English speaking tourists? Hahaaa.

18000 for the girl, 6000 for the room.

We need to try somewhere else maybe Nightflight tonite or Monday?

I really think they need to get rid of the girls at entry, they were incredible.

That just makes the ones inside that much more unappetizing.

There were 4-5 of them each one a 9 or 10, extremely hot!

This place is very posh, I don't really like that in a brothel.

They are trying to set a tone, and overcharge as a result.

If you can pack the girls at entry inside I'm guessing that works.

For a Saturday I would say I would have to say I was underwhelmed.

And I'm guessing I'm not the only one, the place was pretty dead.

If a sc is dead on a Saturday that's not a good sign.

Mongers are somewhere else, where?

Jonathan Pine wrote a great post about we are all the super hot WGs in Russia?

I hope I can find it.[/QUOTE]As others have written often midweek is better for these places because they cater to businessmen. Before I forget, if you didn't like Penthouse then avoid NightFlight. It is nothing like on the web. Very dark and more meager selection. You should try Aurora or Angels. More "in" than Penthouse.

But I think something is wrong with your approach maybe too eager or direct? My experience (during the week, a year ago) was the hostesses greeted me. Showed me in. I bought a table for like $50 I think. So maybe that gets the ball rolling. The hostess specifically said all the girls are available for take out, even her. (And she spoke great English). I ended up taking two bar maids early twenties if that. They were 6000 bar fine each and 8000 a girl. So 28000 for both of them. Had a great time!

Suggest you settle in and get to know the place before discussing a room. I enjoyed a good two plus hours before taking a room each night. The dancers will come around and do a very brief lap dance. But you can feel their tits if I want. Standard tip was 200 (no misprint) so you can sample quite a few (price may be higher now). Then pick your poison, ask her rate and off you go!

Personally I really enjoyed it. Maybe Aurora or Angels for you.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2230488]Dude, I should have checked your profile. I thought you were the average guy who's done one or two spots, but clearly you have quite a lot of depth. Definitely check out Moscow. It is great fun and it's always a blast to discover something new. The strip club with onsite rooms is indeed a great format. You will have no shortage of fun if you have the coin for it. Avoid Rasputin's. Stick to Aurora, Angels, and Penthouse.[/QUOTE]Please check.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2248282]As others have written often midweek is better for these places because they cater to businessmen. Before I forget, if you didn't like Penthouse then avoid NightFlight. It is nothing like on the web. Very dark and more meager selection. You should try Aurora or Angels. More "in" than Penthouse.

But I think something is wrong with your approach maybe too eager or direct? My experience (during the week, a year ago) was the hostesses greeted me. Showed me in. I bought a table for like $50 I think. So maybe that gets the ball rolling. The hostess specifically said all the girls are available for take out, even her. (And she spoke great English). I ended up taking two bar maids early twenties if that. They were 6000 bar fine each and 8000 a girl. So 28000 for both of them. Had a great time!

Suggest you settle in and get to know the place before discussing a room. I enjoyed a good two plus hours before taking a room each night. The dancers will come around and do a very brief lap dance. But you can feel their tits if I want. Standard tip was 200 (no misprint) so you can sample quite a few (price may be higher now). Then pick your poison, ask her rate and off you go!

Personally I really enjoyed it. Maybe Aurora or Angels for you.[/QUOTE]On my last trip I hung out at Duran Bar a lot, with great success. Any other recommendations for Clubs and Bars, I will be there next weekend. Thank you for the advice.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2247516]Bad night in Moscow.

When I got to my hotel I believe it was 15 F.

Hit Penthouse 1st we go in 3-4 very very hot girls sitting on a couch with high end evening gowns sitting on a large leather couch.

We can't see where to pay, nobody speaks a word of English I mean nobody.

But when I see these hot WG my mind is going wowww I think I just hit the pussy lottery.

We find out they are just window dressing, I try to ask the hottest one, how many ruble to go to hotel, she keeps nodding no.

So we find out they are the front desk, we pay for entry 2000..[/QUOTE]How high end sponsorship and kept women work and where the perfect 10's are.

Read Peter Pomerantsev's book "Nothing is real anything is possible". There is a whole chapter devoted to this phenomenon in Moscow.

Maybe some of you veteran ex-pats based in Moscow can figure out from the clues in the book where to look for these women.

I've also seen a couple of girls in Aeroflot business class lounge at SVO, waiting for their flight to Europe. Looking very expensively maintained. Saw their platinum cards. One of their perks from being on the payroll of very rich men.

They were there without their sponsors and looked rather lonely, and I didn't get the impression that it was because the sponsors weren't there. My first thought when I saw these girls was wow these girls are hot, and that they're out of my league.

But strangely one of the girls came on to me, quite hard, her voice just screams that she's so horny and could explode any second. She invited me to join them at their table at the lounge. I knew in their minds I was probably their age, but I know I'm way older.

It's just in Russia people often mistake me for "molodoi chelovek". These girls are stunning but still not perfects 10, because if there were then their sponsors would have their own jets.

I also saw a few times the sponsors and "sodershanka" meaning kept woman traveling together, also at the Aeroflot business class lounge in SVO and also in the business class cabins flying in and out of Russia. It's easy to spot them. The girls would be very tall and slim, the men would usually be much older, short and very fat and sloppily dressed but no doubt expensive.

Usually the top several buttons of their shirts are undone, because they're too fat and maybe it's considered "chic". They'd also be gorging on the free food and drinks in the lounge and not paying much attention to their "sodershaka" because they know the girls are already paid for.

Again, these girls don't look particularly happy. Even when flying business class out of the country for a holiday. By the way, Aeroflot does not have first class, so business class is already the top class. Maybe the reason the girls don't look happy is because they're only 9's. If they had been 10's they'd be flying on a private jet, hahaha.

And that's where the perfect 10's end up. They don't work for "public consumption".

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2249132]On my last trip I hung out at Duran Bar a lot, with great success. Any other recommendations for Clubs and Bars, I will be there next weekend. Thank you for the advice.[/QUOTE]DF,

If you had great success at Duran, then you sir, have some "game". Respect.

Right around the corner opposite The Crown Plaza, there's THE LOFT. So be sure THE LOFT is a strip club with onsite sex. But if you are pulling girls out of Duran then you probably don't need a strip club. Then you might try the following high end places that will have similar class of girls to what you enjoyed at Duran.

BAR LUCH [URL]https://barluch.ru/en/[/URL]#screen-1. Not too far away from Duran on Bolshaya Pirogovskaya 27/1. High end whisky bar and restaurant with very hot girls.

SIBERIA [URL]http://siberiamoscow.ru/[/URL] , Bolshaya Nikitskaya 58. Incredible food and amazing women. Mostly looking for guys with money but if you play the role you can "get your dick wet".

GIPSY [URL]http://www.bargipsy.ru/gipsy-webpage.html[/URL] , Naberezhnaya, 3/2. This place will blow your mind. Stunning women who are very stuck up (or maybe I'm just too old and ugly). At one time this was the hottest club in Moscow.

ICON [URL]https://iconclub.ru/en/[/URL], Bolotnaya Embankment 9/1. This place is interesting. Slightly older women but very well dressed and usually quite horny.

SOHO ROOMS [URL]https://www.sohofamily.ru/[/URL] , Savvinskaya Naberezhnaya, 12/8 This place used to be "the bomb" about 8 years ago. Then it went downhill but I have heard that it has made a resurgence. Might be worth checking out. I have not been there is years. Again, very hot women.

Just a word of caution. There are both regular girls and working girls (semi-pro) at these clubs and it's really hard to tell them apart.

IF you are looking for something a little more "pub like", the here are two that I would highly recommend.

OLD SCHOOL PUB [URL]http://www.ospub.ru[/URL] Bolshoy Cherkasky Pereulok, 15. Great place. Really gets going with the after work crowd. Can be hit or miss depending on day of the week. Great fun. More casual and the girls are a little less "glam".

TAP & BARREL [URL]http://tbpub.ru/en.html[/URL] Ulitsa Bol'shaya Dmitrovka, 13. Excellent Pub. Nice people. I have gone and seen tables of girls getting drink and looking for hookups. High potential.

That should get you started. The list of bars in Moscow with available women goes on and on.

Enjoy!

Jake.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2249341]DF,

If you had great success at Duran, then you sir, have some "game". Respect.

Right around the corner opposite The Crown Plaza, there's THE LOFT. So be sure THE LOFT is a strip club with onsite sex. But if you are pulling girls out of Duran then you probably don't need a strip club. Then you might try the following high end places that will have similar class of girls to what you enjoyed at Duran.

BAR LUCH [URL]https://barluch.ru/en/[/URL]#screen-1. Not too far away from Duran on Bolshaya Pirogovskaya 27/1. High end whisky bar and restaurant with very hot girls.

SIBERIA [URL]http://siberiamoscow.ru/[/URL] , Bolshaya Nikitskaya 58. Incredible food and amazing women. Mostly looking for guys with money but if you play the role you can "get your dick wet".

GIPSY [URL]http://www.bargipsy.ru/gipsy-webpage.html[/URL] , Naberezhnaya, 3/2. This place will blow your mind. Stunning women who are very stuck up (or maybe I'm just too old and ugly). At one time this was the hottest club in Moscow..[/QUOTE]Thank you, for the advice. I went to he Loft a few times, great looking girls. Very difficult to get phone numbers there, but real nice place.

[URL]https://podushkin.ru/toys/[/URL]

The city of Moscow is the most beautiful I've ever seen.

I just walked past the Aston Martin / Bentley dealership, near my hotel, I used to like San Francisco, I was just there last week.

But that shithole can't even compare to Mos.

Now to the underwhelmed part.

The pussy walking down the street is incredible.

The strip club scene is really pretty bad, I'm 100 meters from Aurora and I don't even want to go tonight, I don't know know where to go next STP or Kyiv.

But this non Russian speaker has hit the wall, hard!

My Russian vocabulary is one word, that's it, nyet!

The story of my trip to Mos in one word, nyet!

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2249877]The city of Moscow is the most beautiful I've ever seen.

I just walked past the Aston Martin / Bentley dealership, near my hotel, I used to like San Francisco, I was just there last week.

But that shithole can't even compare to Mos.

Now to the underwhelmed part.

The pussy walking down the street is incredible.

The strip club scene is really pretty bad, I'm 100 meters from Aurora and I don't even want to go tonight, I don't know know where to go next STP or Kyiv.

But this non Russian speaker has hit the wall, hard!

My Russian vocabulary is one word, that's it, nyet!

The story of my trip to Mos in one word, nyet![/QUOTE]If you do not like Moscow you probably will not like STP. STP is slower place. I love Moscow, I am not sure what you are doing wrong, I had great success there. Good Luck.

Recently went with a Russian girl in London that works as a stripper in Moscow. From what she told me Russian girls working in clubs in Moscow are not working as escorts in their home city out of fear that someone local will learn it and spread bad word. They only work as escorts outside Russia.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2246782]Do you need to download it before one gets to Moscow, or is it too late once you're there?[/QUOTE]You can simply use this site.

[URL]http://webproxy.to/[/URL]

Based on the forum advice, we started to shortlist the lovely women so that we could start contacting them once we arrived in Moscow and had a local sim.

As we were three of us, we had quite a 'short-list' LOL.

Anyways my experience: so among the shortlisted women I initially contacted via WhatsApp at least to those who were available on this medium.

The following lovely lass is whom I fixed an early evening appointment at our AIRBNB accommodation.

Her Name is: Mila.

Age: 25.

Gift: Russian Ruble 7,000/- (One hour).

Additional: Russian Ruble 2,000/- for OWO and CIM.

Rusdosug indi245455.

Review: Yes, she is a blonde as you will see from the pictures, I would say that her age is accurate. With regards to the service she was clear what is on offer and what the extras would cost. (I did not bother with this as I did not want to pay additional).

She seemed a bit nervous or may be I read it wrong but was not at ease initaly when she came to the apartment and that could be as were 3 of us. Although there was another girl as well who we called. The apartment had two rooms so two of us could get busy with are girls at the same time.

Anyways once in the room she got comfortable changed in to her bear minimum and then started with some DFK.

I am not going to get in to the details of the session just that if I had to rate the session and experience on a scale from 1 to 10 then I would give this 7 ish.

Also Mila did point out that the time with our session was over although it was just 45 minutes and this was because initially when she came and the other girl was there as well, we wanted to lighten things up and also make the girls comfortable so we offered some wine and cheese with some nice music. That took up time and this is what she factored in the one hour as well.

I guess fair but anyways not something I was expecting her to count. Anyways she did give me an additional 10 minutes over the hour. So am not complaining but still.

Pictures the one that I snapped when she was with us.

Just my note: her assets were sagging and were a bit droopy. Oh yeah she loved being eaten. Yummy.

FunkySexy.

Arriving in Moscow Thursday night. If anyone is there and wants to meet up, let me know. I will be there for 10 days and will return in 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=MorandUK;2250436]You can simply use this site.

[URL]http://webproxy.to/[/URL][/QUOTE]But it isn't working.

Over priced at 2000 for less than 60 mins.

But just about everything in Moscow is overpriced.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2251660]Arriving in Moscow Thursday night. If anyone is there and wants to meet up, let me know. I will be there for 10 days and will return in 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]I will be there also Thursday night for four days leaving Sunday. Do you want to meet somewhere public? I can't figure out how to private message you and I rarely use this website.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2251660]Arriving in Moscow Thursday night. If anyone is there and wants to meet up, let me know. I will be there for 10 days and will return in 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]Hey Dramafree11,

I will be in Moscow from the 26th - 28th of December for a stopover. Have you been there for winters before. Sounds quite daunting!

And have you been to Vanilia spa before? Fond memories of my experience there a few years ago. Unbelievable model quality girls. Let me know if it's still the same ha ha can't wait to return!

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2252039]Hey Dramafree11,

I will be in Moscow from the 26th - 28th of December for a stopover. Have you been there for winters before. Sounds quite daunting!

And have you been to Vanilia spa before? Fond memories of my experience there a few years ago. Unbelievable model quality girls. Let me know if it's still the same ha ha can't wait to return![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Epsombath2005;2252002]I will be there also Thursday night for four days leaving Sunday. Do you want to meet somewhere public? I can't figure out how to private message you and I rarely use this website.[/QUOTE]Definitely, on the plane now. I will send me contact information or send me PM message.

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2252039]Hey Dramafree11,

I will be in Moscow from the 26th - 28th of December for a stopover. Have you been there for winters before. Sounds quite daunting!

And have you been to Vanilia spa before? Fond memories of my experience there a few years ago. Unbelievable model quality girls. Let me know if it's still the same ha ha can't wait to return![/QUOTE]The area around St Regis Nikolskaya / The Bolshoi, is simply incredible, just had dinner and was walking around there, the women are incredible, do any of them sell pussy in Vanilla? If so? I know where I'm going for dinner Friday! LOL.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2252333]The area around St Regis Nikolskaya / The Bolshoi, is simply incredible, just had dinner and was walking around there, the women are incredible, do any of them sell pussy in Vanilla? If so? I know where I'm going for dinner Friday! LOL.[/QUOTE]I concur. I am currently sitting in the Bolshoi theater watching "queen of spades". The women here are fucking stunning, 7/8/9's. I would marry some of them if I didn't know they are probably all just gold digging LOL. Anyway, the women here really take care of themselves, I will probably visit vanilla or Duran bar tonight.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2252333]The area around St Regis Nikolskaya / The Bolshoi, is simply incredible, just had dinner and was walking around there, the women are incredible, do any of them sell pussy in Vanilla? If so? I know where I'm going for dinner Friday! LOL.[/QUOTE]I'll never forget my first time entering Moscow and taking in all the sights of Nikolskaya and surrounds. Felt ofherworldy and the absolutely stunning women just adds to the allure of the place.

And then going to Vanilia was simply sensory overload. Definitely one of the finest hours of my life in that place. Surprisingly can't find much about Vanilia online and on this forum. But still can't get over the classiness of the venue and beauty of the girls there. Supermodels proving great service at a relatively decent price. I keep on raving about it and my mates back home don't seem to get what I'm saying but yeah it did feel just too good to be true.

No wonder I'm willing to weather the freezing conditions in December when I fly to Dubai via Aeroflot and have a stopover there for 2 days.

Pay Vanilia a visit and let me know if it's still up to this standard, I'm sure you won't regret it.

Not too sure how to send a PM on here though.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2252208]Definitely, on the plane now. I will send me contact information or send me PM message.[/QUOTE]Not too sure how to use the PM system mate, but deffo need to get in touch with you.

Visited last week and just had 1 day free. Had identified an escort site and e mailed a few times but no reply. Maybe English not good I thought. Arrived and rang from hotel and no answer. Rang a girl from another site and just didn't get good vibes. So if I travel around Moscow maybe her pictures are fakes or outdated etc etc. Frankly not into the online scene but thought I might give it a try. Anyway eventually decided against it and went to Penthouse when it opened at 9 pm. Sure it is more expensive than the online options but it is an evening out in a fun place. Entry 2,000. No pressure to buy drinks. All the girls are around the club and easy to spot the English speakers as they are the only ones coming up to chat. Chose one and down to the rooms on site downstairs. Very nice girl and good service. So for low risk option for non Russian speakers with a reasonable budget I recommend the strip clubs with on site fucking. Penthouse and Aurora.

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2252468]I'll never forget my first time entering Moscow and taking in all the sights of Nikolskaya and surrounds. Felt ofherworldy and the absolutely stunning women just adds to the allure of the place.

And then going to Vanilia was simply sensory overload. Definitely one of the finest hours of my life in that place. Surprisingly can't find much about Vanilia online and on this forum. But still can't get over the classiness of the venue and beauty of the girls there. Supermodels proving great service at a relatively decent price. I keep on raving about it and my mates back home don't seem to get what I'm saying but yeah it did feel just too good to be true.

No wonder I'm willing to weather the freezing conditions in December when I fly to Dubai via Aeroflot and have a stopover there for 2 days.

Pay Vanilia a visit and let me know if it's still up to this standard, I'm sure you won't regret it.

Not too sure how to send a PM on here though.[/QUOTE]When I arrived I was very unhappy with the weather, now I don't even know what it is? Is it cold outside, I couldn't tell you I don't know, and don't even care, "Its Friday" I need to try something new? I've seen Duran mentioned a few times here.

The Loft and / or Golden Girls, I was in Aurora Last night and got a few numbers, I will try some calls today, some of the WGs were OK last night, but I think the gringo tax has followed me here from Mexico, I think the prices are too high, 18000 + 6000, so I want them to visit me today or vice versa.

[QUOTE=Epsombath2005;2252386]I concur. I am currently sitting in the Bolshoi theater watching "queen of spades". The women here are fucking stunning, 7/8/9's. I would marry some of them if I didn't know they are probably all just gold digging LOL. Anyway, the women here really take care of themselves, I will probably visit vanilla or Duran bar tonight.[/QUOTE]Did you end up going to Vanilia?

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2252607]When I arrived I was very unhappy with the weather, now I don't even know what it is? Is it cold outside, I couldn't tell you I don't know, and don't even care, "Its Friday" I need to try something new? I've seen Duran mentioned a few times here.

The Loft and / or Golden Girls, I was in Aurora Last night and got a few numbers, I will try some calls today, some of the WGs were OK last night, but I think the gringo tax has followed me here from Mexico, I think the prices are too high, 18000 + 6000, so I want them to visit me today or vice versa.[/QUOTE]I visited Vanilia and they said only massage no sex. No oral. I left after five minutes. I am not paying 300 $ for a soapy massage I can get in Thailand for 70 $. Moscow is not good for Monger or non Russian speakers.

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2252720]Did you end up going to Vanilia?[/QUOTE]Vanilia says no sex and no oral so I left. I went to egoist club. They want 10000 to reserve a table. I've already blown 2000 rubles just driving around. Moscow is terrible for mongers.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2252607]When I arrived I was very unhappy with the weather, now I don't even know what it is? Is it cold outside, I couldn't tell you I don't know, and don't even care, "Its Friday" I need to try something new? I've seen Duran mentioned a few times here.

The Loft and / or Golden Girls, I was in Aurora Last night and got a few numbers, I will try some calls today, some of the WGs were OK last night, but I think the gringo tax has followed me here from Mexico, I think the prices are too high, 18000 + 6000, so I want them to visit me today or vice versa.[/QUOTE]The entire true scene has moved online. The problem is that many girls do not accept text and do not have WhatsApp or Viber. For non English speakers Moscow is terrible. When I call them they do not want anything to do with you even if you use a translator person. They do not want to do outcall, only incall, and I can't figure out how to use the taxi system. The drivers for taxi are all Uzbekistan and do not understand Russian or English. Terrible night.

[QUOTE=Epsombath2005;2252810]I visited Vanilia and they said only massage no sex. No oral. I left after five minutes. I am not paying 300 $ for a soapy massage I can get in Thailand for 70 $. Moscow is not good for Monger or non Russian speakers.[/QUOTE]Did you at least have a look at the line up of girls? I'm pretty sir if you did you would've been a happy man and not even mentioned Thailand and Moscow in the same sentence ha ha.

I truly do not understand statements like "Moscow is horrible for mongers" or czarNicholas almost complete failure to launch. There are hot girls at Aurora and Angels and Penthouse and they want to fuck you for money in a room no more than 100 feet away. Clean facilities, plenty of doable women. Anyone considering a visit (who has plenty of coin) should not be deterred.

No it's not Thailand or Brazil pricing but it's a ton of fun IMO.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2252853]I truly do not understand statements like "Moscow is horrible for mongers" or czarNicholas almost complete failure to launch. There are hot girls at Aurora and Angels and Penthouse and they want to fuck you for money in a room no more than 100 feet away. Clean facilities, plenty of doable women. Anyone considering a visit (who has plenty of coin) should not be deterred.

No it's not Thailand or Brazil pricing but it's a ton of fun IMO.[/QUOTE]Moscow Rocks. You have to want not to succeed here.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2252607]When I arrived I was very unhappy with the weather, now I don't even know what it is? Is it cold outside, I couldn't tell you I don't know, and don't even care, "Its Friday" I need to try something new? I've seen Duran mentioned a few times here.

The Loft and / or Golden Girls, I was in Aurora Last night and got a few numbers, I will try some calls today, some of the WGs were OK last night, but I think the gringo tax has followed me here from Mexico, I think the prices are too high, 18000 + 6000, so I want them to visit me today or vice versa.[/QUOTE]Yes Duran Bar is not as good as last year.

[QUOTE=Epsombath2005;2252810]I visited Vanilia and they said only massage no sex. No oral. I left after five minutes. I am not paying 300 $ for a soapy massage I can get in Thailand for 70 $. Moscow is not good for Monger or non Russian speakers.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I do not speak Russian. And I'm having a great time and a lot of luck in Moscow. The skies the limit here depending on your budget and your game. The prices are very fair and economical at the moment. By far the most beautiful girls I've ever seen in the world And attainable.

That being said the nightlife is changing, Friday night was not as crowded as before, Dress code Was not being enforced, and many of the venues were not that crowded. I would use the computer, escorts and strip clubs, moving forward.

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2252841]Did you at least have a look at the line up of girls? I'm pretty sir if you did you would've been a happy man and not even mentioned Thailand and Moscow in the same sentence ha ha.[/QUOTE]I saw their lineup. I am spoiled and looking for Bolshoi theater level girls if I am going to pay 200 $ usd an hour. I am also deterred when the vanilia hostess says no sex and no blowjob and girl prices are on top of the fee for the room and massage. I've had success online, using rosudog, however, in person, there does not seem to be sex venues that are under 200 $ an hour, at least I didn't find any.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2252860]Yes Duran Bar is not as good as last year.[/QUOTE]New Hot Spot: I was there both Thursday and Friday. There is face control. You need to go early.

Ablaka.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2252922]Sorry, I do not speak Russian. And I'm having a great time and a lot of luck in Moscow. The skies the limit here depending on your budget and your game. The prices are very fair and economical at the moment. By far the most beautiful girls I've ever seen in the world And attainable.

That being said the nightlife is changing, Friday night was not as crowded as before, Dress code Was not being enforced, and many of the venues were not that crowded. I would use the computer, escorts and strip clubs, moving forward.[/QUOTE]Moscow is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever visited with the most beautiful women. The women act feminine and take care of their bodies and minds, and they have very strong minds. My biggest issue was the cost of everything, if I had more time cupid could be a gold mine. I wasn't interested in a Russian trip before, now I really want to see st Peterberg. There is so much to see and fuck in Russia, I just wish the relationship between countries was better due to the visa issue.

Moscow isn't easy but with time and energy and money there's definitely prime pussy to be had, no 35 $ an hour here though.

[QUOTE=EpsomBath2005;2253275]Moscow is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever visited with the most beautiful women. The women act feminine and take care of their bodies and minds, and they have very strong minds. My biggest issue was the cost of everything, if I had more time cupid could be a gold mine. I wasn't interested in a Russian trip before, now I really want to see st Peterberg. There is so much to see and fuck in Russia, I just wish the relationship between countries was better due to the visa issue.

Moscow isn't easy but with time and energy and money there's definitely prime pussy to be had, no 35 $ an hour here though.[/QUOTE]Great post, not sure how To get pussy for $35 an hour. But that is any where in the world.

$100-200 per hour is normal, But if you have any game we could really find some beautiful girls for less. Good luck.

Hi,

I am an Indian guy and will be in Moscow. I was interested to experience a strip show there with my wife. Will it be safe to do so? We are brown skinned and don't speak Russian. Just wanted to have some harmless fun.

If we can visit, please suggest some good strip clubs along with prices. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=KoolGuy85;2254587]Hi,

I am an Indian guy and will be in Moscow. I was interested to experience a strip show there with my wife. Will it be safe to do so? We are brown skinned and don't speak Russian. Just wanted to have some harmless fun.

If we can visit, please suggest some good strip clubs along with prices. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Not normally a problem. Have fun.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2254817]Not normally a problem. Have fun.[/QUOTE]Agree, love Moscow. I am here currently here and killing it. One thing I would not do is go to the Discos, you might have a problem there. They mess with me at first, but now there my friends, just have to play the game. Restaurant and Bars will not be a problem. Try Chef Syeakhouse. Turkish Steakhouse, great experience the food can be a let down, but great place and atmosphere. Like a second home for me there. Example of a misconception about Moscow, Chef bought me dinner the first night there, unbelievable. This never happened to me and in other destinations, I have people buying me drinks all the time, just a great place.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2254817]Not normally a problem. Have fun.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Can you please suggest strip club with an estimated expenses?

[QUOTE=KoolGuy85;2255174]Thank you. Can you please suggest strip club with an estimated expenses?[/QUOTE]For what you want, I suggest Club Angels or one of their affiliates as shown on the bottom of the web page. [URL]http://clubangels.ru/[/URL].

Entrance will cost you about 2,000 rubles each. (USD $30). 200 rubles per table dance. 1,000 rubes per private dance.

They even have a free limo service that will take you to one of their affiliate clubs if you don't like the look of things.

Guys,

I can not tell you how good it is here. Beside the Cold Weather, (Does not bother me, but girls hate), traffic, everything else is so good. Girls nothing better, unless you are into big asses, then go to Colombia. Food, Service, Not Expensive at the moment, decent night life, and the Hot Girls all over the place.

Examples of prices.

1. Normal Dinner for 2 $50-75, provided you are not drinking high end stuff.

2. My Apartment $50 night, you can now get apartments all over the city for that price. Cheaper then some parts of Mexico.

3. Taxi $5-10, you can not beat that.

A Download Yandex. Taxi, very cheap, and good.

Be. Uber is not good unless you can speak the language.

This site is awesome.

[URL]http://beauties-students.ru/main.php[/URL]

Good price and the sent over 2 real models, not the fake once that guys claim to be meeting in Kiev and other destinations. One 5'8 the other 5'10, perfect bodies. One offered to drive me around and the other had lunch and dinner, not charge.

The Visa just takes time not reason not to come.

Thank you so much. Spasiba.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2255198]For what you want, I suggest Club Angels or one of their affiliates as shown on the bottom of the web page. [URL]http://clubangels.ru/[/URL].

Entrance will cost you about 2,000 rubles each. (USD $30). 200 rubles per table dance. 1,000 rubes per private dance.

They even have a free limo service that will take you to one of their affiliate clubs if you don't like the look of things.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2255793]Guys,

I can not tell you how good it is here. Beside the Cold Weather, (Does not bother me, but girls hate), traffic, everything else is so good. Girls nothing better, unless you are into big asses, then go to Colombia. Food, Service, Not Expensive at the moment, decent night life, and the Hot Girls all over the place.

Examples of prices.

1. Normal Dinner for 2 $50-75, provided you are not drinking high end stuff.

2. My Apartment $50 night, you can now get apartments all over the city for that price. Cheaper then some parts of Mexico..[/QUOTE]Hi DF,

Glad you're having a great time. Just checked the Weather in Moscow and shock, shock, -7 .

That I can get over it but what puts me off a Moscow trip is the fucking Visa hurdle.

I am in Ternopil next week and might consider a side trip if my Russian speaking wing woman, scout, mistress, agrees to it as she's Ukrainian.

Apartments are no good for me as I prefer to stay at centrally located hotels with English Speaking staff on reception and I already have few contacts.

That site for the girls looks promising but prices hidden? How much did the girls cost you?

Just to get an idea of Moscow prices.

Cheers.

My trip is coming to an end. Loved Moscow. Exceeded all my expectations. One observation that the nightlife is starting to die. People are just not going to Night Clubs like before. There's probably a lot of reasons for this maybe the crisis, lack of money, working more and change in lifestyle. Besides the traffic that was my only issues, everything else was just super. I'll do a more detailed report later. I highly recommend the city.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2255793]Guys,



This site is awesome.

[URL]http://beauties-students.ru/main.php[/URL]

Good price and the sent over 2 real models, not the fake once that guys claim to be meeting in Kiev and other destinations. One 5'8 the other 5'10, perfect bodies. One offered to drive me around and the other had lunch and dinner, not charge.

[/QUOTE]Thanks this is very informative!

Any more info on this site? Prices, level of service, etc??

Thanks in advance!

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2256454]Thanks this is very informative!

Any more info on this site? Prices, level of service, etc??

Thanks in advance!

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]150 Euros, but very good. Had 4 girls were about as hot they can be, in contact with on WhatsApp. One slightly above average clocked watch. The other was not that hot. Manager of the agency was great, follow up and was easy to deal with. Perfect English.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2255793]Guys,

I can not tell you how good it is here. Beside the Cold Weather, (Does not bother me, but girls hate), traffic, everything else is so good. Girls nothing better, unless you are into big asses, then go to Colombia. Food, Service, Not Expensive at the moment, decent night life, and the Hot Girls all over the place.

Examples of prices.

1. Normal Dinner for 2 $50-75, provided you are not drinking high end stuff.

2. My Apartment $50 night, you can now get apartments all over the city for that price. Cheaper then some parts of Mexico.[/QUOTE]Dude,

I have been here 3 weeks and the is the worst place on the planet to monger.

Uber app doesn't work.

My gmail acct is frozen.

The Russian govt blocks most websites.

Russian cell service is a joke.

Nobody speaks English, I know 2 words of Russian the and nyet.

Its crazy cold and windy, below zero F all day yesterday.

I took the subway taxis buses light rail all over the city yesterday.

I haven't had sex in 6 fucking days.

That agency? 2 real models are you fucking joking? I called she sent, a girl with tattoos all over her arms, I would not do her, if you paid me, she was an hour late and she tried to upsell me.

Before I told her to get lost!!

What do you call a real model?

Please share an honest example.

If those photos belong to any girls it was them 10-20 yrs ago.

That Photoshop out all the tattoos.

You say you like the rooms? They Photoshop those also.

I really like Moscow and the people but mongering is a complete joke here.

And stating is the greatest is being very very dishonest.

I wish ISG would start some process whereby.

Posters can give some generic demographic info.

To qualify what they are saying.

Age?

Weight?

Height?

Race?

Hair?

What would most women rate you? A 1 or a 10?

I was stood up by appointments yesterday.

And walked out of salons, because I don't want what they were selling for free.

And 2 salons wouldn't even let me in.

They have speakers with cameras and you have to ring to get in, they speak in russian, if you can't speak back, take a hike!

There is too much false information on the forum.

And guys will say well that's my opinion.

I was told before I went to FKK land how great it was.

Well I found out that advice came from an elderly Asian guy.

Well. Let me tell you.

Consider the source.

Not just some anonymous post on the internet, triple check every comment.

I have complained about this before and somehow my post never gets posted?

[QUOTE=Jake993;2255198]For what you want, I suggest Club Angels or one of their affiliates as shown on the bottom of the web page. [URL]http://clubangels.ru/[/URL].

Entrance will cost you about 2,000 rubles each. (USD $30). 200 rubles per table dance. 1,000 rubes per private dance.

They even have a free limo service that will take you to one of their affiliate clubs if you don't like the look of things.[/QUOTE]If you throw around enough tips which I do, they will begrudgingly call you a yandex, the front door (which doesn't speak English) will say have a seat it will be 30-40 mins hoping you will leave and get your own, which I do.

I'm not sitting there begging for a damn ride!!

They don't even like when you walk in with a armband from another place.

They give dirty looks like, wow too cheap to pay entry again?

The scs are some of the worst in the world, I thought LOS Angeles was bad.

Think Los Angeles without the hot strippers.

Most WGs are over 30 many pushing 40.

The faces are not good either, I will say most have great bodies.

The lighting is pretty dark, and I think they look like shit, so I wonder how bad it is with the lights on.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2256701]If you throw around enough tips which I do, they will begrudgingly call you a yandex, the front door (which doesn't speak English) will say have a seat it will be 30-40 mins hoping you will leave and get your own, which I do.

I'm not sitting there begging for a damn ride!!

They don't even like when you walk in with a armband from another place.

They give dirty looks like, wow too cheap to pay entry again?

The scs are some of the worst in the world, I thought LOS Angeles was bad.

Think Los Angeles without the hot strippers.

Most WGs are over 30 many pushing 40.

The faces are not good either, I will say most have great bodies.

The lighting is pretty dark, and I think they look like shit, so I wonder how bad it is with the lights on.[/QUOTE]What you experienced is totally not what I experienced. My girl from Aurora was 22 tops. Guessing more like 18 or 19. My two girls from Penthouse were early twenties for sure if that.

Maybe it's the time of year. I was there in August (2017) and had a great experience. Maybe Nov / Dec Is the difference. Not sure, but your shit experience was not at all like mine, which was great.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2256700]Dude,

I have been here 3 weeks and the is the worst place on the planet to monger.

Uber app doesn't work.

My gmail acct is frozen.

The Russian govt blocks most websites.

Russian cell service is a joke.

Nobody speaks English, I know 2 words of Russian the and nyet.

Its crazy cold and windy, below zero F all day yesterday.

I took the subway taxis buses light rail all over the city yesterday.[/QUOTE]Sorry, no need for me to agrue, my experience is totally the opposite. As I said before if you do not succeed in Moscow, because of bad attitude or you're not trying. I met girls, through the following:

1. Seeking Arrangements: only use for month and be careful.

2. Escort Site that I provided a link, awesome, but they did send one girl I would never normally do, but ended up being fun.

3. Met girls at the night club.

4. Also Tinder, I did lie about my age.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2256740]What you experienced is totally not what I experienced. My girl from Aurora was 22 tops. Guessing more like 18 or 19. My two girls from Penthouse were early twenties for sure if that.

Maybe it's the time of year. I was there in August (2017) and had a great experience. Maybe Nov / Dec Is the difference. Not sure, but your shit experience was not at all like mine, which was great.[/QUOTE]I did not even go to Strip Bars this trip, I was so successful using other resources. I will go when I go back in 2 weeks.

Taxi can be a little challenging, but it gets easier.

After a great trip I will be back in Dec. 20th. Anyone wants to join me they are welcome.

The Dude that is complaining is so wrong, but is write in one thing Uber does not work, in Moscow There is a link in one of my previous posts, that works great and cheap. Very strange I was in Moscow the same time he could have contacted me and would have tried to help.

Couple points.

A. I never to the Subway not reasons taxis are $5-10 any where in the city, just no need for that stress. I might start, but I would have a friend show me the route first.

Be. I never went to the a Saloon, I used other sources.

Again I am happy to help.

There is nothing anonymous about me, my post are very consist.

1. Moscow is the best hands down and does not matter what time of year, but summer would be better, but I do not have time, due to my work schedule. I can only travel during winter months.

2. Mexico can be real good.

3. Kiev and Brazil suck, way over rated.

Colombia is good for some, but not for me. Good luck. I will post more about my trip in the next few days.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2256347]Hi DF,

Glad you're having a great time. Just checked the Weather in Moscow and shock, shock, -7 .

That I can get over it but what puts me off a Moscow trip is the fucking Visa hurdle.

I am in Ternopil next week and might consider a side trip if my Russian speaking wing woman, scout, mistress, agrees to it as she's Ukrainian.

Apartments are no good for me as I prefer to stay at centrally located hotels with English Speaking staff on reception and I already have few contacts.

That site for the girls looks promising but prices hidden? How much did the girls cost you?

Just to get an idea of Moscow prices.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Said it a Million times the Visa is the best. This keeps out the losers that have ruined other destinations. Take advantage of this. Girls in Moscow love older foreign guys, use this to your advantage.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2256700]Dude,

I have been here 3 weeks and the is the worst place on the planet to monger.

Uber app doesn't work.

My gmail acct is frozen.

The Russian govt blocks most websites.

Russian cell service is a joke.

Nobody speaks English, I know 2 words of Russian the and nyet.

Its crazy cold and windy, below zero F all day yesterday.

I took the subway taxis buses light rail all over the city yesterday.

I haven't had sex in 6 fucking days.

That agency? 2 real models are you fucking joking? I called she sent, a girl with tattoos all over her arms, I would not do her, if you paid me, she was an hour late and she tried to upsell me.

Before I told her to get lost!!.[/QUOTE]I just came back from four days in Moscow. I don't deny most of what you said, it's mostly correct.

It does depend on your perspective, but Russia in general is a much more advanced tourist and mongering destination. Nothing is handed to you on a silver platter and a lot of the legwork must be done by the monger. It is not point and shoot. I have tmobil global plan for 75 $ a month and it worked fine, no real problems. The issue is the price though, to monger in Moscow you need at least o pay 100-150 $ usd per hour. Many mongers. Myself included, are used to 30-70 for short time and 40-150 usd for tln.

I've been to over 20 countries mongering and while Russian women are indeed hot, you have to expend both more energy and time compared to most other destinations. Would recommend to those with deep pockets are looking for something different.

Anyone who goes to Russia during their winter has no right to complain about the weather. Everyone knows it gets cold.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2256458]150 Euros, but very good. Had 4 girls were about as hot they can be, in contact with on WhatsApp. One slightly above average clocked watch. The other was not that hot. Manager of the agency was great, follow up and was easy to deal with. Perfect English.[/QUOTE]I saw what she sends out!

If anyone tells you you can get an escort "as hot as they can be", in Moscow for 150 don't believe it, maybe 1500 usd more likely 15000 usd.

Thats 150 usd, the girls gets 75 minus taxi costs, there are street vendors selling hats at the metro right now, that cost more than that.

This is a rich city with tons of wealth, the wgs all want a whale, I tried seeking, avg to below avg girls were quoting me, $2000-2500 per hour.

I offered them that in rubles and of course they blocked me.

Tinder, those girls are just bored, I swipe right 200 times a day.

Its a waste of time.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2256816]Said it a Million times the Visa is the best. This keeps out the losers that have ruined other destinations. Take advantage of this. Girls in Moscow love older foreign guys, use this to your advantage.[/QUOTE]"Girls in Moscow love older foreign guys".

Not unless you count dirt cheap escorts from your link that you could not pay me to have sex with.

I've been hanging out in the clubs, the only old guys the WGs like, are the ones wearing armani and speaking russian.

I spent 10 weeks in FKKland summer 2017 and 10 weeks in mexico summer 2018.

In retrospect those were pretty good trips.

Moscow is turning out to be one big waste of cash.

I was told before I came, no russian, no problem, the wgs just want your money they don't care.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa more lies!

I don't know if I would make a huge difference, because I'm not finding anything I like regardless.

I do see a few wgs in the scs that I try to speak with.

When I whip out my fone to google translate they laugh and walk away.

[QUOTE=EpsomBath2005;2257046]I just came back from four days in Moscow. I don't deny most of what you said, it's mostly correct.

It does depend on your perspective, but Russia in general is a much more advanced tourist and mongering destination. Nothing is handed to you on a silver platter and a lot of the legwork must be done by the monger. It is not point and shoot. I have tmobil global plan for 75 $ a month and it worked fine, no real problems. The issue is the price though, to monger in Moscow you need at least o pay 100-150 $ usd per hour. Many mongers. Myself included, are used to 30-70 for short time and 40-150 usd for tln.

I've been to over 20 countries mongering and while Russian women are indeed hot, you have to expend both more energy and time compared to most other destinations. Would recommend to those with deep pockets are looking for something different.

Anyone who goes to Russia during their winter has no right to complain about the weather. Everyone knows it gets cold.[/QUOTE]Cold yes I agree one should not complain, but I watched the weather before I came, October was awesome high 50's high 60's, I get here 1st week of Nov.

A few weeks later its 0 F that's crazy I just expected a more gradual decline in temps.

And I wouldn't be bitching.

If it was Jan. Or Feb. I could see, but even the Russians are complaining!

[QUOTE=EpsomBath2005;2257046]I just came back from four days in Moscow. I don't deny most of what you said, it's mostly correct.

It does depend on your perspective, but Russia in general is a much more advanced tourist and mongering destination. Nothing is handed to you on a silver platter and a lot of the legwork must be done by the monger. It is not point and shoot. I have tmobil global plan for 75 $ a month and it worked fine, no real problems. The issue is the price though, to monger in Moscow you need at least o pay 100-150 $ usd per hour. Many mongers. Myself included, are used to 30-70 for short time and 40-150 usd for tln.

I've been to over 20 countries mongering and while Russian women are indeed hot, you have to expend both more energy and time compared to most other destinations. Would recommend to those with deep pockets are looking for something different.

Anyone who goes to Russia during their winter has no right to complain about the weather. Everyone knows it gets cold.[/QUOTE]The quotes I get in the scs are 18000 for the girl 6000 for the room, 60 mins, I'm guesing the upselling only begins once you get in the room!

I had a few of the lowest of the low, offer lower prices I can't even remember what they said, I just remember running away.

Interesting debate here between Tsar Nikolas and DramaFree.

Personally I have not had a good night of chasing girls in Moscow since the late 2000's. Mostly dissapointments and I've pretty much given up on it. I get my kicks elsewhere nowadays.

I have a buddy, European guy, good looking and adonis like physique (has been going to gym regularly for 20 years and keeps an insane diet), suave, charming, with a good job. He cleans up on Tinder. All freebies. This guy wouldnt even consider p4p. But most of his chicks I've seen are 5's and 6's in my book and I wouldn't bother with them at all. I can remember only one or two that seemed interesting to me. Cant think of one stunner in the bunch.

He tells me its getting harder to hook up as he passes 40. Fortunately he has bagged himself a hot (in his eyes) 19 year old trophy wife whom he will take with him when he leaves Russia.

So please forgive me if I am also a bit skeptical about Moscow being the best mongering destination. Or maybe our buddy DramaFree is like my friend (both in terms of his strengths and attributes and standards). In which case Moscow is indeed a playground for him.

Just my 2 kopeks worth. I'd be happy to be proved wrong and to get back out there and make up for all I have been missing out on.

UncleV.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2257146]Interesting debate here between Tsar Nikolas and DramaFree.

Personally I have not had a good night of chasing girls in Moscow since the late 2000's. Mostly dissapointments and I've pretty much given up on it. I get my kicks elsewhere nowadays.

I have a buddy, European guy, good looking and adonis like physique (has been going to gym regularly for 20 years and keeps an insane diet), suave, charming, with a good job. He cleans up on Tinder. All freebies. This guy wouldnt even consider p4p. But most of his chicks I've seen are 5's and 6's in my book and I wouldn't bother with them at all. I can remember only one or two that seemed interesting to me. Cant think of one stunner in the bunch.

He tells me its getting harder to hook up as he passes 40. Fortunately he has bagged himself a hot (in his eyes) 19 year old trophy wife whom he will take with him when he leaves Russia.[/QUOTE]I am 50 years old, I guess with a little bit more game than I thought. You should not give up. For me it is great, but I am not affiraid of rejection, it makes me stronger. Happy to meet when I am in Moscow.

I've been traveling to Moscow for 20 years. When I first arrived the working girls were lined up on Tverskaya from Red Square to Khimki. Then things started changing. And like every city, due to a multitude of socioeconomic factors, Moscow isn't the mongering destination it once was. If your main reason to visit Moscow is for sex tourism, then you'll be disappointed. Back in the day I could get a banging hot model from Night Flight or Metellitsa for a single Ben. The Fahkie Faktor was 3-stars! If you wanted in-house service, the Safari Lodge was legendary. But you HAD to know some basic Russian to get around, and you still kinda do.

Despite all of the changes there is still plenty of fun to be had in Moscow, you just have to be willing to put in the work. A few years ago Jax and I visited Night Flight and it as a joke; $500 was the starting point and the girls weren't even that hot. We had a beer and left. Metellitsa and Safari are closed. If you want to walk into a club, pick out a girl and fuck on-site, Moscow would not be my first choice. But learn a little Russian (at least learn the freaking Cyrillic alphabet, it's not that hard), log onto RusDosug and there you have it. All the girls you want. Sure there's plenty of bait and switch. That's life. You don't like the looks of the girl, just walk away. But I've never heard a working girl walk away from a potential gig due to a lack of Russian.

Don't like the cold? Don't go to Russia. The Kremlin's blocked your favorite site? Get a VPN. Your email doesn't work? Gmail has always been shit for me in Russia. Yahoo also. Establish a Yandex account before your trip.

Tired of working girls? Take a train to Tula or Tver and make your way to an 80's or 90's disco and by a girl a drink or ask her to dance.

A lot has changed for the better as well. Restaurants, transportation, communication, hotels are all better than back in the day. There are PLENTY of cities in the world that are worse than Moscow for mongering, starting with nearly every city in North America.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2257169]I've been traveling to Moscow for 20 years. When I first arrived the working girls were lined up on Tverskaya from Red Square to Khimki. Then things started changing. And like every city, due to a multitude of socioeconomic factors, Moscow isn't the mongering destination it once was. If your main reason to visit Moscow is for sex tourism, then you'll be disappointed. Back in the day I could get a banging hot model from Night Flight or Metellitsa for a single Ben. The Fahkie Faktor was 3-stars! If you wanted in-house service, the Safari Lodge was legendary. But you HAD to know some basic Russian to get around, and you still kinda do.

Despite all of the changes there is still plenty of fun to be had in Moscow, you just have to be willing to put in the work. A few years ago Jax and I visited Night Flight and it as a joke; $500 was the starting point and the girls weren't even that hot. We had a beer and left. Metellitsa and Safari are closed. If you want to walk into a club, pick out a girl and fuck on-site, Moscow would not be my first choice. But learn a little Russian (at least learn the freaking Cyrillic alphabet, it's not that hard), log onto RusDosug and there you have it. All the girls you want. Sure there's plenty of bait and switch. That's life. You don't like the looks of the girl, just walk away. But I've never heard a working girl walk away from a potential gig due to a lack of Russian.[/QUOTE]Great Post, I had none of this issues that this guy is claiming happened. I use Gmail and Zero problems. Love Moscow.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2257167]I am 50 years old, I guess with a little bit more game than I thought. You should not give up. For me it is great, but I am not affiraid of rejection, it makes me stronger. Happy to meet when I am in Moscow.[/QUOTE]Thanks! This gives me hope (for Moscow).

[QUOTE=KoolGuy85;2254587]Hi,

I am an Indian guy and will be in Moscow. I was interested to experience a strip show there with my wife. Will it be safe to do so? We are brown skinned and don't speak Russian. Just wanted to have some harmless fun.

If we can visit, please suggest some good strip clubs along with prices. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Fellow Indian here.

From my experience, strip clubs in Russia are very safe.

I didn't speak a word of Russian, they made me feel very welcome there. Don't believe western media spreading lies about Russians being racists etc.

They are very good toward us Indians.

Strip clubs would have hostesses who speak English.

Entry is from Rb 500 - 1000, dance was something like 1000/1500 I don't remember exactly.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2257169]I've been traveling to Moscow for 20 years. When I first arrived the working girls were lined up on Tverskaya from Red Square to Khimki. Then things started changing. And like every city, due to a multitude of socioeconomic factors, Moscow isn't the mongering destination it once was. If your main reason to visit Moscow is for sex tourism, then you'll be disappointed. Back in the day I could get a banging hot model from Night Flight or Metellitsa for a single Ben. The Fahkie Faktor was 3-stars! If you wanted in-house service, the Safari Lodge was legendary. But you HAD to know some basic Russian to get around, and you still kinda do.

Despite all of the changes there is still plenty of fun to be had in Moscow, you just have to be willing to put in the work. A few years ago Jax and I visited Night Flight and it as a joke; $500 was the starting point and the girls weren't even that hot. We had a beer and left. Metellitsa and Safari are closed. If you want to walk into a club, pick out a girl and fuck on-site, Moscow would not be my first choice. But learn a little Russian (at least learn the freaking Cyrillic alphabet, it's not that hard), log onto RusDosug and there you have it. All the girls you want. Sure there's plenty of bait and switch. That's life. You don't like the looks of the girl, just walk away. But I've never heard a working girl walk away from a potential gig due to a lack of Russian.

Don't like the cold? Don't go to Russia. The Kremlin's blocked your favorite site? Get a VPN. Your email doesn't work? Gmail has always been shit for me in Russia. Yahoo also. Establish a Yandex account before your trip.

Tired of working girls? Take a train to Tula or Tver and make your way to an 80's or 90's disco and by a girl a drink or ask her to dance..[/QUOTE]Good post. I agree with what you said. I didn't have any problems with gmail or using google translate.

I think most mongers are inherently lazy and bad tourists in general, you need to expend energy and figure things out when you are in Russia.

I found all my girls on rosudog (spelling) , Russian girls, 100/150 $ usd an hour, they looked like their pictures, all fine. Perhaps many mongers are just used to easier destinations, Russia is for the advanced.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2257169].... the Safari Lodge was legendary.......[/QUOTE]Gosh how I do miss Safari Lodge. I walked by a few months ago and almost shed a tear. It was the very definition of a lap dancing club. << heavy sigh.

[QUOTE=Punter619;2257419]Fellow Indian here.

From my experience, strip clubs in Russia are very safe.

I didn't speak a word of Russian, they made me feel very welcome there. Don't believe western media spreading lies about Russians being racists etc.

They are very good toward us Indians.

Strip clubs would have hostesses who speak English.

Entry is from Rb 500 - 1000, dance was something like 1000/1500 I don't remember exactly.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Moscow is very safe at the moment. Far safer then any city in the states.

I see two sides here arguing whether Moscow is good. I might visit the city soon and I wonder what the problem with sites rusdosug and intimcity is. There seem to be some great girls there, what stopped Nicholas from getting good providers from them? Fake pics? Bad service? Girls don't accept foreigners / don't speak English?

While browsing the two websites I get the feeling that it is too good to be true, so perhaps the doomsayer is right about the current state of Moscow.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2257563]Thank you, Moscow is very safe at the moment. Far safer then any city in the states.[/QUOTE]Really? What do you base this on? The crime rate in Merrimack, New Hampshire is 0. 0. How can you get far safer than that?

[QUOTE=EpsomBath2005;2257495]Good post. I agree with what you said. I didn't have any problems with gmail or using google translate.

I think most mongers are inherently lazy and bad tourists in general, you need to expend energy and figure things out when you are in Russia.

I found all my girls on rosudog (spelling) , Russian girls, 100/150 $ usd an hour, they looked like their pictures, all fine. Perhaps many mongers are just used to easier destinations, Russia is for the advanced.[/QUOTE]Yes I knew it would be difficult, but not this fucking difficult, I welcomed the challenge, zero contacts zero Russian and zero degrees F, no problem? Right? Hahahaaa.

I tried rosudog, many times, pure garbage, yesterday I try a 30000 girl, I show up she changes the address, I go to the next address she changes it again, I abort (she rang my phone 500 times after that).

Then I go to a cheaper girl I get there, no response, I contact another, I get there, no response, so I go to a shitty brothel and waste money on a pig!

I can write 100 examples of this happening over the last month.

This place is completely exhausting!

I'm looking at flights to BKK for Friday.

I tried a few other girls on there in the last few weeks.

I'm really amazed how they can Photoshop the girl? All the fat, baby damage, tattoos, acne and wrinkles in the face are gone.

Just know one thing, "if it looks too good to be true" trust me it is!

Moscow is a very beautiful city (probably too much so for this monger).

But it = a huge waste of a lot of money I could of enjoyed somewhere else.

As Chezz says.

If your main reason to visit Moscow is for sex tourism, then you'll be disappointed.

But it wasn't my main reason, it was my only reason!

[QUOTE=Foreman371;2257776]I see two sides here arguing whether Moscow is good. I might visit the city soon and I wonder what the problem with sites rusdosug and intimcity is. There seem to be some great girls there, what stopped Nicholas from getting good providers from them? Fake pics? Bad service? Girls don't accept foreigners / don't speak English?

While browsing the two websites I get the feeling that it is too good to be true, so perhaps the doomsayer is right about the current state of Moscow.[/QUOTE]No, that guy could not be more wrong. I just left Moscow And exceeded all my expectations greatly. I used a different site, That I listed in the previous report. You will need a local number for the other two sites and some Russian. I am going to try Intimicy when I am back in 2 weeks. I did use Rusdosug, in the past with mixed results. Their hot girls everywhere in Moscow, you just have to find them.

[QUOTE=Foreman371;2257776]I see two sides here arguing whether Moscow is good. I might visit the city soon and I wonder what the problem with sites rusdosug and intimcity is. There seem to be some great girls there, what stopped Nicholas from getting good providers from them? Fake pics? Bad service? Girls don't accept foreigners / don't speak English?

While browsing the two websites I get the feeling that it is too good to be true, so perhaps the doomsayer is right about the current state of Moscow.[/QUOTE]There seems to be one option in Moscow for mongering, the scs.

The prices are high / quality is low (but they dress nicely), but if you are in the city for business this seems to be the only viable option, if you must?

The websites are a joke, I've tried them all, fake photos, or out of date, Photoshop you name it.

Many of the photos are just shitty small brothel apts.

I regret to say, I have done one too many WGs this trip that I would do nowhere else in the world even for free, no less.

None of them cheap they all upsell.

Why you may ask did I do them? Eventually I will cave.

Thats why I'm looking at flights to Bangkok.

I've tried everything except nightflight?

Would anyone chime in?

Should I visit it tonight or tomorrow?

Is it worth 50 usd? To see what's inside?

Any questions just send me an I'm.

So I'm burning cash, and not happy, time to move on.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2257863]Yes I knew it would be difficult, but not this fucking difficult, I welcomed the challenge, zero contacts zero Russian and zero degrees F, no problem? Right? Hahahaaa.

I tried rosudog, many times, pure garbage, yesterday I try a 30000 girl, I show up she changes the address, I go to the next address she changes it again, I abort (she rang my phone 500 times after that).

Then I go to a cheaper girl I get there, no response, I contact another, I get there, no response, so I go to a shitty brothel and waste money on a pig!

I can write 100 examples of this happening over the last

This place is completely exhausting!

I'm looking at flights to BKK for Friday.

I tried a few other girls on there in the last few weeks.[/QUOTE]Again, I can a great site and you never used it. Makes no sense, I had almost none of the problems you did, and once I did I just over cane the challenged and moved on. It is just not that hard, I am sorry.

[QUOTE=Foreman371;2257776]I see two sides here arguing whether Moscow is good. I might visit the city soon and I wonder what the problem with sites rusdosug and intimcity is. There seem to be some great girls there, what stopped Nicholas from getting good providers from them? Fake pics? Bad service? Girls don't accept foreigners / don't speak English?

While browsing the two websites I get the feeling that it is too good to be true, so perhaps the doomsayer is right about the current state of Moscow.[/QUOTE]I call all the websites, include intimlife, most websites just serve as advertisers for salons if you keep calling and calling different numbers 24/7.

Once in a while somebody that speaks some English will answer the phone or hand the phone to a WG that does, hopefully enough to give you an address.

Good luck finding it, and if you do, if you get inside set your expectations very low.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2257863]

I tried rosudog, many times, pure garbage, yesterday I try a 30000 girl, I show up she changes the address, I go to the next address she changes it again, I abort (she rang my phone 500 times after that).

[/QUOTE]Wow! They want 30 K and put you through all that trouble to even get to the girl. Ridiculous. It's this kind of BS that has made me give up on hobbying in Moscow.

Not to mention the rude, sour puss attitude of girls here. Sorry, but I am really put off by Russian women.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2258003]The websites are a joke, I've tried them all, fake photos, or out of date, Photoshop you name it.

Many of the photos are just shitty small brothel apts.

I regret to say, I have done one too many WGs this trip that I would do nowhere else in the world even for free, no less.

None of them cheap they all upsell.[/QUOTE]I suspected as much, thanks for the info, it looked too good to be true. A shame since I love the look of Russian girls.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2258003]There seems to be one option in Moscow for mongering, the scs.

The prices are high / quality is low (but they dress nicely), but if you are in the city for business this seems to be the only viable option, if you must?

The websites are a joke, I've tried them all, fake photos, or out of date, Photoshop you name it.

Many of the photos are just shitty small brothel apts.

I regret to say, I have done one too many WGs this trip that I would do nowhere else in the world even for free, no less.

None of them cheap they all upsell.

Why you may ask did I do them? Eventually I will cave..[/QUOTE]Pity to miss wonderful museum Peter, far higher cultural than Lenine / Staline Moscow. Then moved to Bishkek. Kyr for women. When you don't speak Russian, Russia is not the place. Also Kiev. Ukr but better speaking Russian.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2258345]Pity to miss wonderful museum Peter, far higher cultural than Lenine / Staline Moscow. Then moved to Bishkek. Kyr for women. When you don't speak Russian, Russia is not the place. Also Kiev. Ukr but better speaking Russian.[/QUOTE]Sorry, Kiev sucks. Russia is much better. I speak no Russian, only minor issues due to language.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2258345]Pity to miss wonderful museum Peter, far higher cultural than Lenine / Staline Moscow. Then moved to Bishkek. Kyr for women. When you don't speak Russian, Russia is not the place. Also Kiev. Ukr but better speaking Russian.[/QUOTE]I should have listened to you!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2258345]Pity to miss wonderful museum Peter, far higher cultural than Lenine / Staline Moscow. Then moved to Bishkek. Kyr for women. When you don't speak Russian, Russia is not the place. Also Kiev. Ukr but better speaking Russian.[/QUOTE]I may take a train to STP? I'm debating between STP? Fkkland? Or Pattaya / Angeles city? I will keep Kyiv off the itinerary!

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2258470]I may take a train to STP? I'm debating between STP? Fkkland? Or Pattaya / Angeles city? I will keep Kyiv off the itinerary![/QUOTE]Don't miss Saint Petersburg and Peterhoff on Baltic, this is as magic as a beautiful woman, and so many beauties in streets or stores. For girls for 50/100 USD for the night if you make her likes you, fly to Bishkek Kyrghistan.

I'll be travelling to Moscow in Jan (24th to 28th are the possible dates). I usually fly to Montreal (I live in Seattle) and partake in escort services. Compared to other sex tourism countries Canada is a little on the expensive side, I've read Brazil, Colombia and Dominica Republic have very pocket friendly prices. Thanks to so many posters on here (dramafree, etc) there is so much useful info on here. I have a couple of questions tho.

I'm planning to visit 2 girls per day, this could be my last adventure before I get married mid 2019. Which would be an economical way to enlist the WGs services? Nightclubs like Aurora, Penthouse etc seem to charge 6000 rubles per HR, while there are many women on sites like imtimlife, rusdosug offering the same thing for 4000 rubles. Do these indies usually have their own place or do they come over to my hotel? Are the pics on these sites reliable or would I be better off sticking to nightclubs?

Once again you guys are awesome! Thanks for sharing your experiences and info!

Thanks in advance!

Just got back from a brief visit to Russia. I was going to use rusdosug but some friends ended up dragging me to Penthouse and had fun. I went back another night. Prices quoted in this thread (2 K rubles entry, 200 per table, 2 K private) are all accurate. Not all places list what it costs to go "downstairs" but if the girl likes you she'll make the effort to explain it to you. Prices at Penthouse were the same as other places so you can also use that.

That said, not all girls want to go downstairs. Reasons vary and its not a big deal, just be polite and wait for the next table dance. Here you may have to be careful, the second night I felt a bit like the business was seeing if it could get more private dances out of me, but being firm and polite still resulted in a good evening.

As for rusdosug, I discovered the "portal" which is entirely in Russian and has this odd thing about photo competitions. If you just search rusdog normally you end up with a lot of hot profiles, but with no history. Girls on the portal frequently have reviews and you can see if they've been recently active, text in English, etc. I only talked to one girl on it but would definitely try to use it more if I'm back in Russia.

Oh, forgot to add this to my report: Someone else had a lot of problems with taxis. Install Yandex Taxi before you go, I had no problems outside of one way over-aggressive driver.

[QUOTE=BreezyHome;2259094]Oh, forgot to add this to my report: Someone else had a lot of problems with taxis. Install Yandex Taxi before you go, I had no problems outside of one way over-aggressive driver.[/QUOTE]100%, once I switched from Uber, I had no other problems.

[QUOTE=CrazzyBowy;2259073]I'll be travelling to Moscow in Jan (24th to 28th are the possible dates). I usually fly to Montreal (I live in Seattle) and partake in escort services. Compared to other sex tourism countries Canada is a little on the expensive side, I've read Brazil, Colombia and Dominica Republic have very pocket friendly prices. Thanks to so many posters on here (dramafree, etc) there is so much useful info on here. I have a couple of questions tho.

I'm planning to visit 2 girls per day, this could be my last adventure before I get married mid 2019. Which would be an economical way to enlist the WGs services? Nightclubs like Aurora, Penthouse etc seem to charge 6000 rubles per HR, while there are many women on sites like imtimlife, rusdosug offering the same thing for 4000 rubles. Do these indies usually have their own place or do they come over to my hotel? Are the pics on these sites reliable or would I be better off sticking to nightclubs?

Once again you guys are awesome! Thanks for sharing your experiences and info!
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I had high quality girls coming to my apartment. (The site is listed on my other posts. I am going to try Intimilife a little more on my next trip, but you need local number for that site.) My opinion, I would not go to girls apartments, until you have met at least once, For the following reasons, If the girls do not meet your standards you can always turn them away politely at your place, but it's a little different when you are on there territory, also you need to worry about safety, 99.9%, will not be an issue, but it only takes one time. The other issue is the traffic it sucks, so you will waste a lot of time looking for apartments. Taxi drivers can usually find the bars and rest. , but apartments is much more difficult. Just a thought. Also, a couple of the guys that struggled, wrote they tried to go to girls apartments and they did not go to well for them.

What I did is had escorts come late morning early afternoon and did traditional dating and night clubs in the evenings, also worked in Tinder and Seeking Arrangements. Worked great.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2259493]I had high quality girls coming to my apartment. (The site is listed on my other posts. I am going to try Intimilife a little more on my next trip, but you need local number for that site.) My opinion, I would not go to girls apartments, until you have met at least once, For the following reasons, If the girls do not meet your standards you can always turn them away politely at your place, but it's a little different when you are on there territory, also you need to worry about safety, 99.9%, will not be an issue, but it only takes one time. The other issue is the traffic it sucks, so you will waste a lot of time looking for apartments. Taxi drivers can usually find the bars and rest. , but apartments is much more difficult. Just a thought. Also, a couple of the guys that struggled, wrote they tried to go to girls apartments and they did not go to well for them.

What I did is had escorts come late morning early afternoon and did traditional dating and night clubs in the evenings, also worked in Tinder and Seeking Arrangements. Worked great.[/QUOTE]That's great advice Dramafree. You seem to have a very good understanding of how Moscow works. More people should listen to you, myself included. Excellent advice here! Thanks for posting.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2257127]Cold yes I agree one should not complain, but I watched the weather before I came, October was awesome high 50's high 60's, I get here 1st week of Nov.

A few weeks later its 0 F that's crazy I just expected a more gradual decline in temps.

And I wouldn't be bitching.

If it was Jan. Or Feb. I could see, but even the Russians are complaining![/QUOTE]I use tmobil global plan. I pay 71 $ a month and most countries are covered by tmobil. All my email and apps worked including yandex. All world travelers should use tmobil. Only Cuba Jordan Vietnam? My tmobil plan did not work. Otherwise every country has at least 3 g in all major cities including Kenya and Nigeria and China. No problems.

I used Seeking Arrangements in Moscow with some successful, but moving forward I would only use periodically, there are better options. The girls on SA are experienced in traveling and expectations are way to high. If you decide to try SA, just turn on for month and start 2 weeks before you trip.

[QUOTE=EpsomBath2005;2259916]That's great advice Dramafree. You seem to have a very good understanding of how Moscow works. More people should listen to you, myself included. Excellent advice here! Thanks for posting.[/QUOTE]Thank you, but I am following Jake993, advice he is knows way more about Russia then I do.

Something interesting on the Kiev thread there is one guy that I disagree with almost everything he says, but he is the one that talked about having Working Girls come by early then do traditional dating in the late afternoons and evenings. Thursday, Friday and Saturday, I hit the clubs, makes for a busy day. Also, need to mix in a little work and gym That just shows your can learn something from people you do not agree with, so I have to give him some credit. That being said, I was having the girls come over around 11 am, but that is too early in Moscow, when I was gong to bed at 6 or 7. This time I will probably do 1 or 2 pm. Girls are usually a little more fresh in the morning and the agency is not calling them repeatedly.

I will be back in Moscow in 8 days, so if anyone is there, let's meet up.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2257551]Gosh how I do miss Safari Lodge. I walked by a few months ago and almost shed a tear. It was the very definition of a lap dancing club. << heavy sigh.[/QUOTE]That's where I spent the evening of 9/11. I felt like if the world was ending, this is where I wanted to be. And you're right about the lap-dances. Back in the day they were fully nude and 100 rubles, but not every dancer was a working girl. It was a great hang. I used to go there with one of the guys from the eXile. As an aside, I feel a little sad for how much shit those guys are still taking for the writing they did. That newspaper and book was legendary. And their club and restaurant reviews were totally spot-on.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2261862]..... I felt like if the world was ending, this is where I wanted to be.......[/QUOTE]Ha ha ha too true.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2261862]As an aside, I feel a little sad for how much shit those guys are still taking for the writing they did. That newspaper and book was legendary. And their club and restaurant reviews were totally spot-on.[/QUOTE]You know it brother. This moronic #MeToo movement is going too far. This witch is advocating using the US legal system to prosecute these guys for things which may or may not have actually take place in Russia 20 years ago. But then, I suppose that only stands to reason if Uncle Sam can tax your worldwide income then he can follow your every move overseas and prosecute you for bad behavior regardless of whether or not it's illegal.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-two-expat-bros-who-terrorized-women-correspondents-in-moscow/2017/12/15/91ff338c-ca3c-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ba95830546ac[/URL]

On the plane back to Moscow. I will be there until the 31st anyone wants to meet up send me a message.

I use to be of the thinking that I missed a golden age of mongering in Russia. I don't think that way anymore. I get it, before the internet, quality girls would concentrate in venues that were accessible to foreigners. Now, it's just low quality at high prices. Russian girls have way more options now on line that has just about frozen out all traveling foreigners.

Post Fosta / Sesta in the US has been the best mongering time of my life. I never could have imagined so many Euro escorts friending me and so open to girlfriend sex.

[QUOTE=Riina;2263415]Post Fosta / Sesta in the US has been the best mongering time of my life. I never could have imagined so many Euro escorts friending me and so open to girlfriend sex.[/QUOTE]Sorry. Lost the thread here. How is Fosta / Sesta good?

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2263144]On the plane back to Moscow. I will be there until the 31st anyone wants to meet up send me a message.[/QUOTE]Been having a chat in the FKK Lounge that led me to outline pricing for all the venues I've been to: US, Brazil, Spain, UK, Germany, Thailand, China, Japan, NZ / AU.

When I put it on paper Moscow was quite expensive (if you go the strip club route with bar fine etc) which surprised me. Don't get me wrong — I had a great time and CzarNicholas is patently insane. But it was expensive.

I just wonder where else you have been that makes you conclude Moscow is tops? For 10 years I had German FKK as untouchable — until I went to Brazil this year! 😀.

[QUOTE=Riina;2263415]I use to be of the thinking that I missed a golden age of mongering in Russia. I don't think that way anymore. I get it, before the internet, quality girls would concentrate in venues that were accessible to foreigners. Now, it's just low quality at high prices. Russian girls have way more options now on line that has just about frozen out all traveling foreigners.[/QUOTE]Riina, your points are well taken. I think the key words in your post is "traveling foreigners". If you are a sex tourist breezing through town, you are going to pay way too much and or end up being quite frustrated.

FACT: There are no fewer hot Russian girls now than there were 20 years ago during the so called "Golden Age".

FACT: These girls are no less horny and hungry for sex now than they were 20 years ago during the so called "Golden Age".

FACT: These available and horny Russian girls DO most definitely have options and are not widely available to foreigners with a few bucks in their pockets like there were 20 years ago during the so called "Golden Age".

The sad truth is that if you want to enjoy Moscow (and most of Russia for that matter) to the fullest as a monger, you need to be prepared to invest a little time. I remember this fellow ISG member a few years back. I seem to recall his ISG handle was "Lukasek". Man, he had an adventure. He went off into the small towns of Western Russia and started going to all of the local bars and night clubs. He got more pussy than he could handle. I'm not suggesting that we all run off to the Russian hinterland, but if you are considering a mongering trip to Russia and only have a short time to spend, you might want to re-think your plans and dramatically re-set your expectations.

Just saying.

What is fosta / sesta?

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2263832]What is fosta / sesta?[/QUOTE]F / S is a new law in the use that has huge prison terms for even accidentally encouraging trafficking or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903][CodeWord903][/url] providers. So pretty much every useful legitimate multi-girl outlet has shit down. A few have moved offshore but it's still perilous. And the best sites for reviews are gone.

It has generally had the effect of damaging legitimate relatively safe prostitution in the US. So that is why I am curious to understand the positive outcome the OP references.

I live in a US city with many Eastern Europeans. Their options with sex work have become very limited. So when they meet a good customer, it's in their interest to develop a relationship beyond something just transactional. As most know their career will be short. Most agencies are dying, but a few talented local pimps are thriving. When I say post Fosta / Sesta is great, it's a nuanced thing particular to my city. It's been death pretty much everywhere else.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2262847]You know it brother. This moronic #MeToo movement is going too far. This witch is advocating using the US legal system to prosecute these guys for things which may or may not have actually take place in Russia 20 years ago. But then, I suppose that only stands to reason if Uncle Sam can tax your worldwide income then he can follow your every move overseas and prosecute you for bad behavior regardless of whether or not it's illegal.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-two-expat-bros-who-terrorized-women-correspondents-in-moscow/2017/12/15/91ff338c-ca3c-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ba95830546ac[/URL][/QUOTE]Oh, for fuck sake, another sanctimonious piece of shit former expat "journalist" who had her feeling hurt. Christ, she was living in a Moscow that was straight out of a scene from the Blade Runner. What did she expect? Thanks, Jake, I'm glad there are others that remember.

Mark, Matt, Kino Kevin and Jake all made the trip to my little gorod to see what all the fuss was about. Matt even wrote an article about his excursion. (I deleted the story....fear the me too posse). Russians had / have a different view of sex than those in the west, especially the puritanically fucked-up USA.

I ramble because Russia hasn't changed much regarding sex workers; there are plenty. But as you say, you just need to put in some work. The upside is it's so easy to get around now, comparatively speaking. I also remember Lukasek's reporting from the provinces. That dude really worked! Now it's so much easier to buy train tickets, book hotels, etc. The Russian Railway system, especially, has really gotten their shit together. I just purchased a ticket online on the Sapsan bullet train. Buying train tickets in the past required knowledge of conversational Russian and a shit ton of patience. The web site is even in English!

Long live the eXile!!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2263613]Been having a chat in the FKK Lounge that led me to outline pricing for all the venues I've been to: US, Brazil, Spain, UK, Germany, Thailand, China, Japan, NZ / AU.

When I put it on paper Moscow was quite expensive (if you go the strip club route with bar fine etc) which surprised me. Don't get me wrong I had a great time and CzarNicholas is patently insane. But it was expensive.

I just wonder where else you have been that makes you conclude Moscow is tops? For 10 years I had German FKK as untouchable until I went to Brazil this year! 😀.[/QUOTE]1. Lived in Kiev, was great 10 years ago, now it is terrible waste of money and resources.

2. Germany and Tijuana cool places short term.

3. Major Cities in Mexico can be great places. Lived in Tijuana, MTY, GDL, M. City.

4. I was in Colombia for 3 months not for me, I understand why some guys would like it, and I will leave it that.

5. Rio visited too dangerous, dirty and the food sucked (way overpriced) Even more over-rated then Kiev, and that is saying a lot.

6. Asia I have no interested in going. Love Mexico and Russia, no need to change.

Expensive, I do not agree, but I have no problem paying $200 for high quality girls. No clocking watching. Last 2 girls I almost had to tell them to leave, because I was meeting another girl or I was going to the Clubs. I still have not been to the strip clubs the last 2 visits. I have been able to meet enough girls the following ways. Night Clubs, Computer, the High End Agency I listed in previous posting. You can also read about prices I have paid in Moscow. For me I would prefer to work a little harder in America and have High Quality and Educated Girls. The Sky is the limit in Moscow, just depends on your game and pocket book.

I hope this help.

Anyone visited Vanilia erotic massage salon recently? Feedback would be much appreciated.

Just a quick thought, I would definitely avoid Moscow during there holiday break, December 28th-January 10th, 70% of the people I know are out of town or on there way out.

My detailed report will follow shortly!!

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2255793]Guys,

I can not tell you how good it is here. Beside the Cold Weather, (Does not bother me, but girls hate), traffic, everything else is so good. Girls nothing better, unless you are into big asses, then go to Colombia. Food, Service, Not Expensive at the moment, decent night life, and the Hot Girls all over the place.

Examples of prices.

1. Normal Dinner for 2 $50-75, provided you are not drinking high end stuff.

2. My Apartment $50 night, you can now get apartments all over the city for that price. Cheaper then some parts of Mexico.

3. Taxi $5-10, you can not beat that.

A Download Yandex. Taxi, very cheap, and good.[/QUOTE]To ensure you have a good trip your budget needs to be around $300 a day. At that rate you will have a great Visit to Moscow.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2258222]Wow! They want 30 K and put you through all that trouble to even get to the girl. Ridiculous. It's this kind of BS that has made me give up on hobbying in Moscow.

Not to mention the rude, sour puss attitude of girls here. Sorry, but I am really put off by Russian women.[/QUOTE]As per usual Russian business is its own worst enemy. The big 4 Moscow strip clubs appear to run a monopoly under one ownership. The price per hour plus entry fee plus base fine pus room fee plus drinks is extortion. As with the FKK clubs, some of the comments on ISG proclaiming how good they are appear to be written by the club owners themselves. I'm still deciding if to return again or perhaps stick with Bangkok and Vladivostok.

[QUOTE=Nickc;2269993]As per usual Russian business is its own worst enemy. The big 4 Moscow strip clubs appear to run a monopoly under one ownership. The price per hour plus entry fee plus base fine pus room fee plus drinks is extortion. As with the FKK clubs, some of the comments on ISG proclaiming how good they are appear to be written by the club owners themselves. I'm still deciding if to return again or perhaps stick with Bangkok and Vladivostok.[/QUOTE]My last 2 trips I did not even go to the Strip Clubs, plenty of other ways to meet girls in Russia. Strip Clubs are expensive everywhere. I would go in Moscow, but my fiend told me the girls could not give out there phone numbers. I did read in one of the posts that there a couple of Clubs were girls do give out numbers. This was one of my questions, if anyone could clarify I would appreciate?

As far as Asia, not for me, I am sure it might be cheaper, but if I want that I would go to Mexico or Colombia, first. My opinion most of the guys that like Russia and European girls probably will not like Asia. I will stick with Russia and Mexico.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2270167] I did read in one of the posts that there a couple of Clubs were girls do give out numbers. This was one of my questions, if anyone could clarify I would appreciate?
[/QUOTE]On several occasions, I have gotten phone numbers and email addresses from girls BUT ONLY after I had a session with them. And I don't mean private dance. I mean on-site sex. Having said that, I have had 3 times as many girls decline the opportunity to meet me outside the club. My interpretation is that if the girl likes you and likes the way you fuck her, she'll take a risk and share digits. Back in the late 2000's, I had a long running affair with one strip club girl (from one of the big 4) who gave me her contact info. She was from one of the small towns on the out skirts of Moscow Oblast so when I was in town living in a serviced apartment in the center of Moscow, she would stay with me. It was a great arrangement. She'd fuck my brains out in the afternoon / evening before getting ready for her shift. While she was working I was out with my pals carousing around Moscow. Then, after her shift, she came around and fucked me again before going to sleep. Heck of a deal. Once, she even brought a co-worker with her. They teased me with the promise of a 3 some but it never materialized. Wicked girls.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2270369]On several occasions, I have gotten phone numbers and email addresses from girls BUT ONLY after I had a session with them. And I don't mean private dance. I mean on-site sex. Having said that, I have had 3 times as many girls decline the opportunity to meet me outside the club. My interpretation is that if the girl likes you and likes the way you fuck her, she'll take a risk and share digits. Back in the late 2000's, I had a long running affair with one strip club girl (from one of the big 4) who gave me her contact info. She was from one of the small towns on the out skirts of Moscow Oblast so when I was in town living in a serviced apartment in the center of Moscow, she would stay with me. It was a great arrangement. She'd fuck my brains out in the afternoon / evening before getting ready for her shift. While she was working I was out with my pals carousing around Moscow. Then, after her shift, she came around and fucked me again before going to sleep. Heck of a deal. Once, she even brought a co-worker with her. They teased me with the promise of a 3 some but it never materialized. Wicked girls.[/QUOTE]Thank you, kind of thought that's how it works. Love Moscow, the girls are amazing. I will be in 2 weeks.

So my plans changed last minute, and I now have an overnight stay in Moscow in about 10 days. I reserved a room at the Radisson Blu Belorusskaya hotel. I've read through at least 20 pages of this forum, I am not worried about paying a little more to have a girl come to my room since I only have one night.

I remember a good review from one of the girls at Agencytop69 escort, and saw a few others as well.

Any recommendations?

I am a contractor, I already have my visa, but went from only being in Saint Petersburg to having a night in Moscow, and I definitely want a sure bet for the night. My experiences so far have been from Budapest, Bratislava, Prague, Berlin, Nuremburg, Dusseldorf, Almelo, and Mexico. I will be meeting with 2-3 porn stars in Budapest / Prague prior to heading to Russia, as of right now I am planning for $300-500 for the night, big on 20-30 year olds doesn't matter if they are blonde, brunette, or red heads if I find them attractive.

Any information would be greatly appreciated, I have a couple of contacts I can share as well.

[QUOTE=JohnBravo83;2271885]So my plans changed last minute, and I now have an overnight stay in Moscow in about 10 days. I reserved a room at the Radisson Blu Belorusskaya hotel. I've read through at least 20 pages of this forum, I am not worried about paying a little more to have a girl come to my room since I only have one night.

I remember a good review from one of the girls at Agencytop69 escort, and saw a few others as well.

Any recommendations?

I am a contractor, I already have my visa, but went from only being in Saint Petersburg to having a night in Moscow, and I definitely want a sure bet for the night. My experiences so far have been from Budapest, Bratislava, Prague, Berlin, Nuremburg, Dusseldorf, Almelo, and Mexico. I will be meeting with 2-3 porn stars in Budapest / Prague prior to heading to Russia, as of right now I am planning for $300-500 for the night, big on 20-30 year olds doesn't matter if they are blonde, brunette, or red heads if I find them attractive.

Any information would be greatly appreciated, I have a couple of contacts I can share as well.[/QUOTE]Wow, you will have fun. I have great results with this site, very professional.

[URL]http://beauties-students.ru/main.php[/URL]

Hey guys,

I will be back in Moscow, next weekend, if anybody is around I would love to meet up. Back to my favorite destination for girls in the world.

I am planning a trip to Moscow for the summer. It will be my first time going. I have read some of this thread and heard people having mixed review with intimcity / rusdosug. I plan on giving both a shot, but want to know if I am willing to pay a premium what sites / agencies will have hot girls and real pictures?

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2271934]Wow, you will have fun. I have great results with this site, very professional.

[URL]http://beauties-students.ru/main.php[/URL][/QUOTE]How long does it usually take for them to get back to you? I emailed them and asked about 3 girls and if any of them were available that night. Should I wait until the day before when I am in Piter to contact them again?

What is current state of the Tochka and street girl scene in Russia and Moscow these days. ?

[QUOTE=Power550;2274806]I am planning a trip to Moscow for the summer. It will be my first time going. I have read some of this thread and heard people having mixed review with intimcity / rusdosug. I plan on giving both a shot, but want to know if I am willing to pay a premium what sites / agencies will have hot girls and real pictures?[/QUOTE]I have had great result, with this agency. They even contact me when I am not in Moscow to check on me.

[URL]http://beauties-students.ru/main.php[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnBravo83;2274922]How long does it usually take for them to get back to you? I emailed them and asked about 3 girls and if any of them were available that night. Should I wait until the day before when I am in Piter to contact them again?[/QUOTE]They will answer Whatsapp immediately. Not sure how often they check emails.

[QUOTE=JohnBravo83;2274922]How long does it usually take for them to get back to you? I emailed them and asked about 3 girls and if any of them were available that night. Should I wait until the day before when I am in Piter to contact them again?[/QUOTE]They will answer if you contact them on Whatsapp. Probably 2-3 days prior to your trip. Good luck.

Can anyone say how much it would cost in total if I take a penthouse dancer full night for sex from the club? And do they allow things like CIM, BJ without condom, BDSM etc or just pussy sex? Thanks.

Thanks Drama, I got another question has anyone used worldangels dot top? Seems like they got very hot girls.

Also if I am doing an outcall to my hotel and a girl who is obviously not the same as the pictures how would you turn them away?

Like meet them in the lobby and not go up to them and text their cell saying I'm not interested?

[QUOTE=Ennfenn;2276258]Can anyone say how much it would cost in total if I take a penthouse dancer full night for sex from the club? And do they allow things like CIM, BJ without condom, BDSM etc or just pussy sex? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Guessing that would not be cheap. When I was there 2 years ago, bar fine was 6000 and girl was 8000. So I don't know. But would guess 50000+. Really not even sure if it's an option -- they probably prefer hourly in the rooms. And the service would likely be a bit vanilla -- but they probably negotiate.

You might be better off getting a girl using Dramas sources. He seems to have settled in to a rhythm.

[QUOTE=Power550;2276795]Thanks Drama, I got another question has anyone used worldangels dot top? Seems like they got very hot girls.

Also if I am doing an outcall to my hotel and a girl who is obviously not the same as the pictures how would you turn them away?

Like meet them in the lobby and not go up to them and text their cell saying I'm not interested?[/QUOTE]I use to struggle with this as well. Correct, meet them in the Lobby or outside. If they do not look the same as there photos or if you feel it is a scam send them packing. That being said, all there photos are touched up a little, so you have to be realistic. Honestly in Moscow and Mexico it is just not an issue like in Ukraine and Colombia. I have experienced maybe 10-20%, but I am not calling the real cheap escorts. This also includes the girls I am meeting from Tinder, that I am traditionally dating. I have gotten several of the girls phone numbers from the agency, and call them directly, I do not get a cheaper price, but they hang out for hours. One even picks me up at Restaurants or Bars, can not beat that.

I sent 2 girls packing, one her photos were totally fake and she had a very bad odor as well. The other showed up at Night Club with friend and did not bother to tell me she was bring a friend. She was not bad looking, but just had a bad feeling.

Anyone tried intimcity, rusdosug or rusprostitite websites? Rusprostitite looks to good to be true. Intimcity top girls ask very higher price. Not sure if they are authentic. Some also asks for advance. Most of them don't respond if you don't speak Russian.

So I spent Monday night in Moscow, and stayed in the Radisson Blu Belorusskya hotel. Thanks to Dramafree, I contacted Russian Beauties / Masha escort, as well as Agencytop69 from another post I saw awhile back.

First I met with Emili from Agencytop69, looks a just like her pictures, petite little body. Damage was right around 200 plus like 600-700 rubles for taxi.

Then I spent 3 hours with Nastya from Masha escorts, very petite 21 year old, perfect body, very nice GFE, BBJ, 3 hours with extras was like $400 I think.

Last in the morning I spent an hour with Yana. Absolutely stunning nice big tits and a gorgeous ass. I think that was right around $200.

If I was spending more time there I probably would have looked for a better arrangement and deal, but as I had one night and wanted to experience several girls I went with what I could pull off easily.

[QUOTE=JohnBravo83;2277905]So I spent Monday night in Moscow, and stayed in the Radisson Blu Belorusskya hotel. Thanks to Dramafree, I contacted Russian Beauties / Masha escort, as well as Agencytop69 from another post I saw awhile back.

First I met with Emili from Agencytop69, looks a just like her pictures, petite little body. Damage was right around 200 plus like 600-700 rubles for taxi.

Then I spent 3 hours with Nastya from Masha escorts, very petite 21 year old, perfect body, very nice GFE, BBJ, 3 hours with extras was like $400 I think.

Last in the morning I spent an hour with Yana. Absolutely stunning nice big tits and a gorgeous ass. I think that was right around $200.

If I was spending more time there I probably would have looked for a better arrangement and deal, but as I had one night and wanted to experience several girls I went with what I could pull off easily.[/QUOTE]I checked Agencytop69 website. They have a profile listed with model Barbara Palvins photo. I really doubt how many original profiles there are. Most of the profiles are models and looks to good to be true. Barbara Palvins one is obviously fake photo. Picking up internationally reputed models cannot be so easy. I guess they are using many Russian models photo whom I don't know the name.

Contacted with Masha escort as well, she has lots of good profile who looks like model. Don't know if they are authentic. This also looks to good to be true.

So far picking up girls from bar looks like the best option. Though costly at least you know after what you are going for.

[QUOTE=Ennfenn;2278105]I checked Agencytop69 website. They have a profile listed with model Barbara Palvins photo. I really doubt how many original profiles there are. Most of the profiles are models and looks to good to be true. Barbara Palvins one is obviously fake photo. Picking up internationally reputed models cannot be so easy. I guess they are using many Russian models photo whom I don't know the name.

Contacted with Masha escort as well, she has lots of good profile who looks like model. Don't know if they are authentic. This also looks to good to be true.

So far picking up girls from bar looks like the best option. Though costly at least you know after what you are going for.[/QUOTE]Yana from AgencyTop69 is seems legit. Met her in London through Admiral Escorts and she visits London often. She did mention that she works in Moscow through an Agency. Perhaps someone can confirm if it is actually her as in photos?

Back in my favorite city, just amazing, most of the girls have returned from Holiday. Trip is off to a good start banged 2 girls in the first 24 hours. Met another girl and the Night Club, off to meet another one and back to the Club. More information to come.

Guys complain about there not beautiful in the destination that they travel too, all I have to say is come to Moscow, but they are little prejudice so plan appropriately.

I have had great result, with this agency. They even contact me when I am not in Moscow to check on me.

[URL]http://beauties-students.ru/main.php[/URL]

I have met 6 girls from this site, all but one were 7's and above. 3 I am in contact with on Whatsapp. As far as prices in Moscow. Many of the girls that I have met on Tinder and SA, they will start off at $500 and you can get them down to $200, but much cheaper probably is not possible.

Hey guys,

For those of you looking for a legit source of fun, I can only recommend intimcity. This site is usually blocked, so they change its address from time to time. But you can just open and incognito tab in chrome and google search for intimcity, the right site comes up first in the list (right now is at [URL]http://i.intimcity.nl/[/URL]). If you find it's blocked, use Tor or something similar.

There you have a huge assortment of prices, but the worthy hot ladies start usually at 6000 rub (around 90 $, 80 eu) The price for having the girl going to your hotel is usually double, or the same but you have to book 2 hours and / or pay for the taxi (around 2000 rub) inside the MKAD. So hey, just open Google maps and ride metro or order a Yandex taxi, Moscow is not that scary, seriously.

That's the site that locals here use. The good thing about it is that if you scroll down at the bottom of each girl, you'll find reviews. Just trust the reviews of the guys with most reviews.

Problem is that all these reviews are in Russian, so you'll have to google translate. Another problem is that girls usually don't speak English, or if they do, it usually sucks. Sometimes they have a dispatcher but again, bad English.

There's also Rusdosug, some legit girls, but also lots of fakes, and photoshopped pics. Reviews are a rare thing on this site, which is basically used just by tourists.

If you have any questions, let me know.

[QUOTE=ColdAF;2279785]Hey guys,

For those of you looking for a legit source of fun, I can only recommend intimcity. This site is usually blocked, so they change its address from time to time. But you can just open and incognito tab in chrome and google search for intimcity, the right site comes up first in the list (right now is at [URL]http://i.intimcity.nl/[/URL]). If you find it's blocked, use Tor or something similar.

There you have a huge assortment of prices, but the worthy hot ladies start usually at 6000 rub (around 90 $, 80 eu) The price for having the girl going to your hotel is usually double, or the same but you have to book 2 hours and / or pay for the taxi (around 2000 rub) inside the MKAD. So hey, just open Google maps and ride metro or order a Yandex taxi, Moscow is not that scary, seriously.

That's the site that locals here use. The good thing about it is that if you scroll down at the bottom of each girl, you'll find reviews. Just trust the reviews of the guys with most reviews.

Problem is that all these reviews are in Russian, so you'll have to google translate. Another problem is that girls usually don't speak English, or if they do, it usually sucks. Sometimes they have a dispatcher but again, bad English.

There's also Rusdosug, some legit girls, but also lots of fakes, and photoshopped pics. Reviews are a rare thing on this site, which is basically used just by tourists.

If you have any questions, let me know.[/QUOTE]I found that the most beautiful girls on intimcity don't speak or understand English. There are English speaking girls as well but most of them will charge very high yet not so good looking as Russian speaking girls. What an irony!

[QUOTE=Ennfenn;2279920]I found that the most beautiful girls on intimcity don't speak or understand English. There are English speaking girls as well but most of them will charge very high yet not so good looking as Russian speaking girls. What an irony![/QUOTE]There is Skinny Hot girl every where in Moscow and are attainable. Does take a little game and slightly above average budget, but nothing to crazy. It just is not that expensive now. Love this place!! I have been all over the world nothing, compares for me, not even close. You have your escorts, then you can also do traditional dating internet dating, and there is also an active night life as well. Heaven!

[QUOTE=ColdAF;2279785]Hey guys,

For those of you looking for a legit source of fun, I can only recommend intimcity. This site is usually blocked, so they change its address from time to time. But you can just open and incognito tab in chrome and google search for intimcity, the right site comes up first in the list (right now is at [URL]http://i.intimcity.nl/[/URL]). If you find it's blocked, use Tor or something similar.

There you have a huge assortment of prices, but the worthy hot ladies start usually at 6000 rub (around 90 $, 80 eu) The price for having the girl going to your hotel is usually double, or the same but you have to book 2 hours and / or pay for the taxi (around 2000 rub) inside the MKAD. So hey, just open Google maps and ride metro or order a Yandex taxi, Moscow is not that scary, seriously.

That's the site that locals here use. The good thing about it is that if you scroll down at the bottom of each girl, you'll find reviews. Just trust the reviews of the guys with most reviews.

Problem is that all these reviews are in Russian, so you'll have to google translate. Another problem is that girls usually don't speak English, or if they do, it usually sucks. Sometimes they have a dispatcher but again, bad English.

There's also Rusdosug, some legit girls, but also lots of fakes, and photoshopped pics. Reviews are a rare thing on this site, which is basically used just by tourists.

If you have any questions, let me know.[/QUOTE]Few questions, first a lot of the girls want to be called not texted. If you don't speak Russian what should you do if you really want to see the girl?

Second, for the girls who allow booking by text message and don't speak English, would using google translate work to book, then in person it should be easy?

Third, of the girls with good reviews what percent actually looked as good as their pictures?

[QUOTE=Ennfenn;2279920]I found that the most beautiful girls on intimcity don't speak or understand English. There are English speaking girls as well but most of them will charge very high yet not so good looking as Russian speaking girls. What an irony![/QUOTE]Yes, that's what I explain on my message.

If you think about it, it makes quite a lot of sense. I mean, not a lot of girls with University degrees are going to be working in the sex industry.

I haven't seen that correlation English speaking / charging higher price. The price always depends on the looks, or very subjectively, how pretty the girl think she is.

[QUOTE=Power550;2280098]Few questions, first a lot of the girls want to be called not texted. If you don't speak Russian what should you do if you really want to see the girl?

Second, for the girls who allow booking by text message and don't speak English, would using google translate work to book, then in person it should be easy?

Third, of the girls with good reviews what percent actually looked as good as their pictures?[/QUOTE]Yes, most of them prefer to be called and will ignore sms. That being said, a few of them provide their Whatsapp / Viber, and use Google translate during the arrangements phase. So get the address, and go check her out. Don't hesitate to leave if it's a blatant fake. Which rarely happens if you check for reputable reviews, the ones from guys with more than 5 or so.

Speaking a bit of Russian helps, and fucking pretty chicks could be an excellent motivation to start learning it. But if you are not much into wrapping your head around the cyrillic alphabet, get the help of a trustworthy local / expat.

A friend of mine used to come all the way from Spain. I helped him the first times calling the girls and arranging the meeting (my Russian sucks BTW). After we would ride metro, or taxi to get to the place. I used to wait for him outside at some shopping center or cafe. After 3 or 4 times he became an expert. Moscow is not so scary, you just have to follow some common sense rules.

They always look a bit worse than in the pics, but within reason. I mean a woman with a bit of makeup makes a big difference to the eye. Again, look at the reviews and you will see how customers rate the accuracy of the pics.

[QUOTE=Power550;2280098]Few questions, first a lot of the girls want to be called not texted. If you don't speak Russian what should you do if you really want to see the girl?

Second, for the girls who allow booking by text message and don't speak English, would using google translate work to book, then in person it should be easy?

Third, of the girls with good reviews what percent actually looked as good as their pictures?[/QUOTE]Whatsapp and Google Translator are a must.

[QUOTE=ColdAF;2280305]Yes, most of them prefer to be called and will ignore sms. That being said, a few of them provide their Whatsapp / Viber, and use Google translate during the arrangements phase. So get the address, and go check her out. Don't hesitate to leave if it's a blatant fake. Which rarely happens if you check for reputable reviews, the ones from guys with more than 5 or so.

Speaking a bit of Russian helps, and fucking pretty chicks could be an excellent motivation to start learning it. But if you are not much into wrapping your head around the cyrillic alphabet, get the help of a trustworthy local / expat.

A friend of mine used to come all the way from Spain. I helped him the first times calling the girls and arranging the meeting (my Russian sucks BTW). After we would ride metro, or taxi to get to the place. I used to wait for him outside at some shopping center or cafe. After 3 or 4 times he became an expert. Moscow is not so scary, you just have to follow some common sense rules.

They always look a bit worse than in the pics, but within reason. I mean a woman with a bit of makeup makes a big difference to the eye. Again, look at the reviews and you will see how customers rate the accuracy of the pics.[/QUOTE]Well said, agree with everything. I would encourage everyone to have a girls come to you, Will make the experience much better, and save a lot of drama. It can be very difficult to find apartments if you do not speak the language and if you are using taxis even more difficult.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2280441]Well said, agree with everything. I would encourage everyone to have a girls come to you, Will make the experience much better, and save a lot of drama. It can be very difficult to find apartments if you do not speak the language and if you are using taxis even more difficult.[/QUOTE]Sure, addresses in Russian are a bit tricky, especially for someone who can't even identify cyrillic characters, so I recommend everybody to at least learning to read the Russian alphabet, it shouldn't take longer than a couple of days, and it will be super useful to get around the city. I mean Moscow has a lot more to offer than just girls. From museums to amazing parks, metro stations, gosh, even walking around the city it's an experience, and in all these cases a bit or basic Russian helps a lot.

Regarding girls delivered to your room / flat, of course it's more comfortable, but it's also way more expensive. If budget it's not a problem, or you only have a couple of nights in Moscow that's the way to go.

But if you have a week here, put a bit of effort and start going to the apartments; simply put, you'll fuck double for the same amount of money. Moscow can be a tough nut to crack, but once is open, man you are in for a lot of fun, and you are going to keep coming again and again.

So there you have it guys, DramaFree encourage you to take the Blue pill and I suggest you go for the Red one.

[QUOTE=ColdAF;2280711]Sure, addresses in Russian are a bit tricky, especially for someone who can't even identify cyrillic characters, so I recommend everybody to at least learning to read the Russian alphabet, it shouldn't take longer than a couple of days, and it will be super useful to get around the city. I mean Moscow has a lot more to offer than just girls. From museums to amazing parks, metro stations, gosh, even walking around the city it's an experience, and in all these cases a bit or basic Russian helps a lot.

Regarding girls delivered to your room / flat, of course it's more comfortable, but it's also way more expensive. If budget it's not a problem, or you only have a couple of nights in Moscow that's the way to go.

But if you have a week here, put a bit of effort and start going to the apartments; simply put, you'll fuck double for the same amount of money. Moscow can be a tough nut to crack, but once is open, man you are in for a lot of fun, and you are going to keep coming again and again.

So there you have it guys, DramaFree encourage you to take the Blue pill and I suggest you go for the Red one.[/QUOTE]You are correct. Great advice, no disagreement from me. Boils down to time or money. I posted about this before, much easier to say no to girl on your territory then when you are in her flat. I would be real pissed, if I drove 1 hour in traffic then it was not the same person. I have been luck here and sounds you have been as well. Most of the pictures are somewhat legit compared to other destinations, but it still an issue.

Again great advice and implementing some of the thing you have mentioned.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2280901]You are correct. Great advice, no disagreement from me. Boils down to time or money. I posted about this before, much easier to say no to girl on your territory then when you are in her flat. I would be real pissed, if I drove 1 hour in traffic then it was not the same person. I have been luck here and sounds you have been as well. Most of the pictures are somewhat legit compared to other destinations, but it still an issue.

Again great advice and implementing some of the thing you have mentioned.[/QUOTE]Not trying to disagree with anyone either, just giving my two cents.

About saying No to girl in your territory, in can be tricky. Economic hotels don't even have a proper lobby, it's just a small space in front of reception, and I find hard to assess a sex worker while the receptionists look at me. Even in hotels with lobbies, it's rare to find an empty spot to check the girl without the judging eyes of other guests looking at you. Not to talk about security, and walks of shame.

About traffic jams, metro in Moscow works amazing, it takes you anywhere, super cheap and you don't have to worry about jams. Plus the stations are worth visiting, it's one of Moscow's attractions for tourists.

Pictures are always an issue, in each and every site, also the ones for escorts. Regarding intimcity, the reviews at the bottom are what matter, and with a bit of care the disappointment can be reduced to a minimum.

My trip is winding down. 3 trips to Moscow in the 3 months. Love it here, did make some mistake drank too much and stayed out too late on many occasions, but I get caught up in the moment. This trip I was more successful in the night Clubs. My advice go, but go home at 4 am, at the latest, live for another day. Get there number and move on. Also, if they do not drink move on just a big waste of time. It is just not that easy to get a girl to go home with you from clubs, even for Russian guys, so do not plan on this.

Couple of misconceptions I had about Russia:

1. So many holiday, Girls work for Holidays, not for a better life. I think this is changing, but you never know. I think the sanctions and crisis are causing hard ache, but you get mixed opinions, It is amazing how little some girls work and have no desire to either.

2. People are not drinking as much, and smoking is becoming a Taboo. Love the decrease in smoking. Drinking not so much.

A. I heard this many times healthy lifestyle is becoming very popular.

3. Girls love to sleep and go holiday all the time.

4. Also the get very sick, extremely easy. They will take a week off of work for a common cold.

5. Night Clubs are dying, lots of reasons for this, just be prepared, real just Friday and Saturday. Saturdays can be quiet.

6. Food and Service is much better then I thought.

7. People have went out of there way to help me.

8. People do not stay out as late anymore as before. Probably different in the summer.

9. Almost zero face control now, especially if you go early.

A. no lines at any clubs, if so max 5-10 minutes, but is fun everyone is joking around.

10. Restaurants are only full on Fridays. Restaurants that are open all night are empty.

11. Hard to get normal girls to meet you passed 9 pm, so be prepared.

12. I have met some great Russian guys that have just made my trip even better, amazing experience.

Overall I would rate Moscow a solid 9. Just so much fun, If you have any game, decent budget there are endless possibilities. I have not to deal with any Scams that I had in deal with in Kiev and one girl did try to bring her friend to the Night Clubs without asking I just sent here packing. Pictures and Profiles, are usually same or slightly better. I maybe had 20% issues, with this, but I will take that all day long. Traffic sucks, but that is not because of to many cars, there traffic lights are just mess. Taxis can be challenging, but I have overcome this, and now if there is problem it usually my fault.

I primarily used the Web-site I listed in previous reports, SA, Tinder, and Night Clubs, and decent results with all. Girls are motivated to date here, especially foreign guys, but most have some real false expectations.

Russian girls in my opinion are the best in the World and they are hot chicks everywhere. Just be prepared, love to travel, sick all the time, and love gifts. (flowers and perfume), if you are doing traditional dating. I will be back one more time, but now is time to focus on work and the real world.

Good luck!

I have experienced enough in Moscow last few weeks. IMO Russian women are very beautiful but in general weird, didn't feel like friendly and strictly professional compared to European or American girls.

My mongering started with visiting strip clubs. I went to penthouse and burlesque. Penthouse is good for foreigners. Many English speaking girls there. I went there three times. Most of the girls have very good shape and figure. But most beautiful girls will not come to you unless you spend big on drinks, hookah or book a private table. Some girls won't even come to you if you don't look like a Russian. Most of the girls offering sex to me weren't original Russian girls. Some were Romania, Ukrainian etc. That's the main reason they speak English. About cost breakdown, it would cost 18000 rub per hour if you choose a dancer. 12000 for the girl and 6000 for the hotel room. And if you choose a waitress, it would cost 5/6 k more. Tbh there were many good looking waitress than dancers. If you don't care about money, choosing a girl from club will be the best option because some of the girls are really nice, friendly and you can judge their behaviour before taking them. And from the gesture and body language of some of the girls, I could say that they may provide excellent GFE.

Thanks to Dramafree. I took three girls from Masha escorts. They all look like their photos even more beautiful when I see them face to face. Girls are authentic and good looking. But they are not really GFE type. I mean you pay $300-$400 for 2 hours, you don't want to have a robot who will just lie down there emotionlessly and do what you instruct them to do. For enjoyable sex, it needs mutual and spontaneous interaction. Some would not even allow you to touch their face or hair. Many restrictions and conditions. But you pay big and you can expect more than just emotionless pussy sex. Sex cannot be enjoyed like that. Rather you can go to sex saloon, choose a 3000 rub hour girl of your choice and get the same service instead of wasting 20000 rub. I took three girls and unfortunately all of them were the same type.

I am staying here few more weeks so I would prefer sex saloons or stripclub for my next adventure. Good luck everyone!

[QUOTE=Ennfenn;2283017]I have experienced enough in Moscow last few weeks. IMO Russian women are very beautiful but in general weird, didn't feel like friendly and strictly professional compared to European or American girls.

My mongering started with visiting strip clubs. I went to penthouse and burlesque. Penthouse is good for foreigners. Many English speaking girls there. I went there three times. Most of the girls have very good shape and figure. But most beautiful girls will not come to you unless you spend big on drinks, hookah or book a private table. Some girls won't even come to you if you don't look like a Russian. Most of the girls offering sex to me weren't original Russian girls. Some were Romania, Ukrainian etc. That's the main reason they speak English. About cost breakdown, it would cost 18000 rub per hour if you choose a dancer. 12000 for the girl and 6000 for the hotel room. And if you choose a waitress, it would cost 5/6 k more. Tbh there were many good looking waitress than dancers. If you don't care about money, choosing a girl from club will be the best option because some of the girls are really nice, friendly and you can judge their behaviour before taking them. And from the gesture and body language of some of the girls, I could say that they may provide excellent GFE.[/QUOTE]Few questions about Penthouse, would be out of place for a guy in their early 20's to go? And do you think it was worth it compared to Masha and intim?

[QUOTE=Ennfenn;2283017]I have experienced enough in Moscow last few weeks. IMO Russian women are very beautiful but in general weird, didn't feel like friendly and strictly professional compared to European or American girls.

My mongering started with visiting strip clubs. I went to penthouse and burlesque. Penthouse is good for foreigners. Many English speaking girls there. I went there three times. Most of the girls have very good shape and figure. But most beautiful girls will not come to you unless you spend big on drinks, hookah or book a private table. Some girls won't even come to you if you don't look like a Russian. Most of the girls offering sex to me weren't original Russian girls. Some were Romania, Ukrainian etc. That's the main reason they speak English. About cost breakdown, it would cost 18000 rub per hour if you choose a dancer. 12000 for the girl and 6000 for the hotel room. And if you choose a waitress, it would cost 5/6 k more. Tbh there were many good looking waitress than dancers. If you don't care about money, choosing a girl from club will be the best option because some of the girls are really nice, friendly and you can judge their behaviour before taking them. And from the gesture and body language of some of the girls, I could say that they may provide excellent GFE.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had fun. Agree with your post. Girls are Beautiful, weird is a good description, it takes awhile to understand them, if ever, but all girls are crazy, nationality does not matter, they are just crazy in different ways.

I still have not been to the strip bars, just too expensive.

What Sex Saloon did you go to? O How many girls? I will try next time.

Ennfenn,

Very good observation. That's why I stopped going to places like Night Flight and calling escorts. Robot sex gets old fast. For these girls, their pussy is simply an appliance used for making money. Many are lesbians who tolerate a dick inside them as a means to an end. Since they are not emotionally invested, to them there is not even a moral question. It's just business. I agree with you about the salon girls. They rely on word of mouth and reputation for performance. If you are a Russian speaker, your best bet is [URL]www.sextalk.ru[/URL] . This is the holy grail of paid sex in Russia.

Enjoy your remaining time in Moscow.

Jake.

[QUOTE=Ennfenn;2283017]But they are not really GFE type. I mean you pay $300-$400 for 2 hours, you don't want to have a robot who will just lie down there emotionlessly and do what you instruct them to do. For enjoyable sex, it needs mutual and spontaneous interaction. Some would not even allow you to touch their face or hair. Many restrictions and conditions. But you pay big and you can expect more than just emotionless pussy sex. Sex cannot be enjoyed like that. [/QUOTE]

In the old days (early 2000's) a middle age foreign guy with a bit of game could score a regular girl at one of these places listed in the title. Ladies of the night were also plentiful at the Boar House (you can guess what the nickname of this place used to be). Hungry duck was legendary for its drunken bacchanalia.

So what are the equivalents to these places in Moscow these days?

[QUOTE=Ennfenn;2283017]I have experienced enough in Moscow last few weeks. IMO Russian women are very beautiful but in general weird, didn't feel like friendly and strictly professional compared to European or American girls.

My mongering started with visiting strip clubs. I went to penthouse and burlesque. Penthouse is good for foreigners. Many English speaking girls there. I went there three times. Most of the girls have very good shape and figure. But most beautiful girls will not come to you unless you spend big on drinks, hookah or book a private table. Some girls won't even come to you if you don't look like a Russian. Most of the girls offering sex to me weren't original Russian girls. Some were Romania, Ukrainian etc. That's the main reason they speak English. About cost breakdown, it would cost 18000 rub per hour if you choose a dancer. 12000 for the girl and 6000 for the hotel room. And if you choose a waitress, it would cost 5/6 k more. Tbh there were many good looking waitress than dancers. If you don't care about money, choosing a girl from club will be the best option because some of the girls are really nice, friendly and you can judge their behaviour before taking them. And from the gesture and body language of some of the girls, I could say that they may provide excellent GFE..[/QUOTE]In my opinion you are spending more money than you should, I mean, drinks, hookah? Fuck all that. Burlesque is fun to go with other pals, drink and watch period.

Also escorts for 400 $? Wow, never spent so much here, and I've been with super cute girls, 19-20 years old that were amazing, for 7000 rub / hour. As I said, I prefer independents, and cut the cost of intermediaries / agencies.

I agree, I prefer a girl with a bit of soul, than a doll that looks at you like a Taxy driver. GFE is hard to find and it's based on luck.

A good idea if you are going to keep coming to Moscow, is to create your small database of girls. You can call them everytime you come, and rely on them. At the same time, in parallel you can tryout new girls and add the worthy ones to your list.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2283543]Ennfenn,

Very good observation. That's why I stopped going to places like Night Flight and calling escorts. Robot sex gets old fast. For these girls, their pussy is simply an appliance used for making money. Many are lesbians who tolerate a dick inside them as a means to an end. Since they are not emotionally invested, to them there is not even a moral question. It's just business. I agree with you about the salon girls. They rely on word of mouth and reputation for performance. If you are a Russian speaker, your best bet is [URL]www.sextalk.ru[/URL] . This is the holy grail of paid sex in Russia.

Enjoy your remaining time in Moscow.

Jake.[/QUOTE]Amen to all that. Most of the girls reviewed in [URL]www.sextalk.ru[/URL] are the ones announced in intimcity, these are basically the "official" prostitute databases for Moscow.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2283564]In the old days (early 2000's) a middle age foreign guy with a bit of game could score a regular girl at one of these places listed in the title. Ladies of the night were also plentiful at the Boar House (you can guess what the nickname of this place used to be). Hungry duck was legendary for its drunken bacchanalia.

So what are the equivalents to these places in Moscow these days?[/QUOTE]They don't exist, and if they do, is oligarch face-controlled.

Man, how I wish time machines were already invented. I bet Uncle Volodya has some good stories to share.

[QUOTE=Power550;2283395]Few questions about Penthouse, would be out of place for a guy in their early 20's to go? And do you think it was worth it compared to Masha and intim?[/QUOTE]It would be fine. Just make sure to bring your passport with you otherwise they won't let you in.

IMO strip clubs are better option than escorts or intimcity. Because you will take a girl of your choice who is willing to please you. Before taking a girl, talk to her, try to understand if she would give you GFE, judge her attitude towards you. Some girls are beautiful but will ignore you or won't show interest on you. Just don't run after them if you want to enjoy your girls company.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2283416]Sounds like you had fun. Agree with your post. Girls are Beautiful, weird is a good description, it takes awhile to understand them, if ever, but all girls are crazy, nationality does not matter, they are just crazy in different ways.

I still have not been to the strip bars, just too expensive.

What Sex Saloon did you go to? O How many girls? I will try next time.[/QUOTE]I met an English speaking taxi driver who drove me to a nearby apartment. There were 4 girls there. Russian women are generally beautiful. So you will probably find someone good most of the time. Cost varies from 2 k to 4 k hour rub. Their service is just pussy sex. But If you pay or tip more, may be kissing, BJ, HJ and CIM. I didn't try because of language barrier. Compared to escort services this is very cost effective. Why would you pay that high for the escorts if you can get the same service and comparable good faces from salons or apartments. But the main problem is that no one speaks English there so you may need some Russian speaking guide who will manage things for you. Again if you don't know someone who speaks Russian you'll have to spend money on guide or taxi drivers. So one thing I learnt that if you speak Russian, you'll save lots of money fucking beautiful girls.

[QUOTE=Ennfenn;2283685]I met an English speaking taxi driver who drove me to a nearby apartment. There were 4 girls there. Russian women are generally beautiful. So you will probably find someone good most of the time. Cost varies from 2 k to 4 k hour rub. Their service is just pussy sex. But If you pay or tip more, may be kissing, BJ, HJ and CIM. I didn't try because of language barrier. Compared to escort services this is very cost effective. Why would you pay that high for the escorts if you can get the same service and comparable good faces from salons or apartments. But the main problem is that no one speaks English there so you may need some Russian speaking guide who will manage things for you. Again if you don't know someone who speaks Russian you'll have to spend money on guide or taxi drivers. So one thing I learnt that if you speak Russian, you'll save lots of money fucking beautiful girls.[/QUOTE]2 Questions:

1. Do you send me the Taxi Drivers Contact Information?

2. What is IMO Strip Club?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=ColdAF;2283589]In my opinion you are spending more money than you should, I mean, drinks, hookah? Fuck all that. Burlesque is fun to go with other pals, drink and watch period.

Also escorts for 400 $? Wow, never spent so much here, and I've been with super cute girls, 19-20 years old that were amazing, for 7000 rub / hour. As I said, I prefer independents, and cut the cost of intermediaries / agencies.

I agree, I prefer a girl with a bit of soul, than a doll that looks at you like a Taxy driver. GFE is hard to find and it's based on luck.

A good idea if you are going to keep coming to Moscow, is to create your small database of girls. You can call them everytime you come, and rely on them. At the same time, in parallel you can tryout new girls and add the worthy ones to your list.[/QUOTE]$400, is way too much. $150-200 is my range, but there is one super Hot, that I may go to $300, but GFE. Many girls are available. They start at $500 and up, but will settle for $200 all day long.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2283564]In the old days (early 2000's) a middle age foreign guy with a bit of game could score a regular girl at one of these places listed in the title. Ladies of the night were also plentiful at the Boar House (you can guess what the nickname of this place used to be). Hungry duck was legendary for its drunken bacchanalia.
So what are the equivalents to these places in Moscow these days?[/QUOTE]Dya Dya Vova. Please, you are making me nostagic. Sadly, as ColdAF pointed out, no such place exists today in the same format. Having said that, I would say that on any given night, in just about every bar in the center of Moscow after 23:00, about 10%-15% of the girls are "working". Clearly, a woman sitting at the bar is approachable and willing to engage in a discussion about paid sex. But then, perhaps I am teach my Babushka how to suck eggs?

[QUOTE=Ennfenn;2283685]I met an English speaking taxi driver who drove me to a nearby apartment. There were 4 girls there. Russian women are generally beautiful. So you will probably find someone good most of the time. Cost varies from 2 k to 4 k hour rub. Their service is just pussy sex. But If you pay or tip more, may be kissing, BJ, HJ and CIM. I didn't try because of language barrier. Compared to escort services this is very cost effective. Why would you pay that high for the escorts if you can get the same service and comparable good faces from salons or apartments. But the main problem is that no one speaks English there so you may need some Russian speaking guide who will manage things for you. Again if you don't know someone who speaks Russian you'll have to spend money on guide or taxi drivers. So one thing I learnt that if you speak Russian, you'll save lots of money fucking beautiful girls.[/QUOTE]Wait, you were at the flat and you didn't try because they only speak Russian? Bro, seriously, you don't need to speak much in that situation: Just choose the girl you like, go with her to the room and let nature be your translator.

Exactly, cost effective. You don't need taxi or guides, just take the address and use some app like Google maps, 2 GIS, or Yandex maps and the city is yours.

And yes, Russian makes thing easier, so learning the basics will make your life way easier here, not only for mongering.

If you need help, write me, I'll help you.