General Reports

I am no expert on this subject, but I would like to give a report of my experience with DH Sunday, the 2nd to last day on my 2011 Asia trip. In the early afternoon, I walked around Victoria Park which was overflowing with Indonesian women enjoying their day off and having lunch. The women showed no interest in me and I wasn't too interested in them either as most were in their native dress and wearing scarves over their heads. The food they brought looked very interesting though. I would have tried some if anybody had offered it.

Around 4 I followed some girls upstairs to J-Forest Bar. I think is was Forest. It was on the same block as Joe Bananas and upstairs on the 2nd floor. The place was packed with Filipina and Indo girls and only a few guys. The ratio must have been 10 to one. I sat at the bar, ordered a beer, and took in the place. A lot of girls were dancing by themselves or with a girlfriend under the strobe light in front of a large mirror. I noticed two Filipinas walking into the bar. One of them was very attractive although not in a Wanchai FL in your face sexy way, just a real nice looking girl. They came over to the bar and sat down. I said Hello, and asked them if I could buy them a drink. We started talking and I was getting on fine with the pretty one. Her girl friend got my vibe and left to go dancing by herself. She was a very good dancer by the way. So the pretty one and I chatted the usual and she told me about herself, where she was from, and what she was doing in HKG. I could not believe it when she told me she was 30. I swear she looked not a day over 25. She was also interested in me and asked if I lived in Hong Kong. I bought both girls another round and the pretty girl asked if I wanted to dance with her. I said sure.

Eventually I got around to asking the pretty girl (I have forgotten her name) if she wanted to leave with me and she explained she had a curfew and had to return to her employer's place no later than 8pm. She gave me her phone number and it appeared to me that she was on the level – I mean a nice girl looking for a real boyfriend who would shag me if I took her out on a date or two and everything went well. I only had two nights left in HKG so I knew nothing was going to happen between us. Still, she was a nice attractive women and I had a pleasant couple of hours talking and dancing with her. Nothing much else was going on at Forest so the three of us decided to go over to Escape. At Escape, there were actually less girls around. The time was now around 6pm. I bought the girls one more round and the pretty girl grabbed my hand and led me to the dance floor. A little after 7 the girlfriend suggested that they better start to head back home so I escorted the girls to the train and said goodbye. Again, the vibe I got from the pretty girl was 'I would really like to see you. Please call me. '

Like I wrote at the beginning of this report, I am no expert on Domestic Helpers. Perhaps Chantik has some more to say on this. My take was; this is excellent fertile ground to find a girl if you happen to live in Hong Kong or are staying there for a few weeks. I usually use HKG as my entry and exit to south East Asia and spend maybe 3 days entering and 3 days before exiting. I suppose there are DH's that are horny and ready to jump into bed with a guy who knows how to play his cards right, but I expect that the percentage is 50-50 or maybe less. DH's are not FL's. They are regular girls. Thus I think they are more a one date or two date girls and definitely worth the effort if you can afford the time. I can't'.

After I dropped the girls off at the subway station, I thought about checking out Neptune 2, but it was around 7:30 and based on what I saw at Escape, I thought it was too early to go there for a sexy Thai or Viet FL. So I went back to my hotel and started searching the 141 site. I always pick Chinese mainland girls in the 700 to 900hk price point. But since it was my 2nd to last night in HKG as well as my 2nd to last night of my trip, I decided to search for Japanese and Korean girls and indulge myself. I have never been with a Japanese girl and since I don't see myself going to Tokyo in the near future, hooking up with a 141 Japanese girl in HKG is my only opportunity. After rejecting all the girls with fake tits and the remaining girls that I did not find that attractive, I was left with 3 choices. Two of the girls were Korean and asking 1800hk and one girl was Japanese asking 1700hk. I called the number for the Japanese girl and made an appointment with her agent. He told me to go to the Empire Hotel over in Tsim Sha Tsui. I got a taxi and headed over. In the lobby I called the agent again and notified him I was at the hotel. He put me on hold for a minute and then told me to go up to room xxxx. I knocked on the door and this amazing beautiful Japanese girl opened the door and asked me to come in. She was around 5'6' tall, thin but with an athletic curved body, and later I found out amazing round B cup mounds and a very tight pussy.

Everything I ever stereotyped about Japanese politeness this girl exuded and more. She asked me if I would please like to take a shower with her and she so carefully removed every stitch of clothing I had on. In the shower she asked if it would be all right if she washed my dong, I forget the word she used and I said yes thank you. Then she knelt down and again asked if it would be ok if she kissed my dick and I said again ok yes please. After the shower she took a towel and made sure I was completely dry then she led me to the bed and again asked if I would now so kindly lay down. Then she performed another BJ until I pulled her up and started kissing her. When I got on top of her, I found her pussy was very tight so I took my time with her. No lubricant. I massaged her clit and the I carefully inserted little Natty's head inside her. Slowly, very slowly I moved around and around, in and out as she got wetter and I was completely in. Then I made love to this adorable girl. Even as I was shagging her, I knew this was one of the highlights of my trip and did not want it to end. After I climaxed we kissed and held each other for a long time. She told me she was leaving for Tokyo the next day. The nuclear accident had just occurred and she was anxious to get back to her family. If she had stayed in town, I would have been mighty tempted to visit her again. I am telling you guys this girl was amazing. Another thing she mentioned was that her agent had been suggesting that she get breast implants. I told her that her tits were perfect and she shouldn't go through with it. But what do I know about the demand for big tited Japanese girls. I only know what I like and I guess I am in the minority. Was 1700hk to much to pay? I don't think so. The experience was well worth it to me. Her looks, her body, her pussy were all outstanding, but the greatest attribute she possessed was that amazing personality. I have never experienced anything like it before. Too bad the best parts of Tokyo are off limits to a English only speaking Japanese illiterate Farang like me or I would be on the next plane. A few months later I was viewing the 141 site from home just for the hell of it and she was back again – no boob job yet. Her name was Suko in case anybody is interested.

Haven't been here in about a year. Last time I was in HK I was with a gal the whole time and couldn't sneak out to Wanchai. Escape had some STUNNERS in there but they all looked like they'd be asking too much and probably task my heart. The guys in there all looked like off-work businessmen which may explain the gals looking like those aiming for the big bucks. Neptune's 2 was mostly guys and not nearly as crowded as in the past, downright empty for a Friday; Neptune's III was even worse Makati was heaving and there were a ton of hotties in there but it was too loud and hot for me. Amazonia had some prospects but a lot of Brit or Aussie couples out for a night of drinks as well. Always feel like I'm trying to pull in front of my mom in those situations. I settled on Boracay which seemed better than this time last year. More later.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1231752]Calling the 1500 strong Mexican Army regulars under the leadership of President General Antonio López de Santa Anna[/QUOTE]Heh heh. Thanks for pointing it out. I was just going to sit on the sidelines and watch the fray between people who get their facts wrong (unlike Chantik) and shoot from the hips but your more accurate information prodded me to chime in against my better judgement.

Having stood on the Alamo and surveyed all that surrounds it, there were only 100-200 Texian irregulars defending a church against an army with a lot more fire power. Out numbered more than 10 to 1, many there still think it was even odds. That's why they need ten gallon hats down there.

For the record, as an American, I proudly display my blue United States of America eagle passport. As a country and as a people, we are far from perfect. In all my travels, I have yet to find a better country and system. If some of you feel so bad about being an American, please, surrender it. Give it to someone more deserving and who is willing to defend its better ideals.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu;1231792]Escape had some STUNNERS[/QUOTE]Yeah, I missed the boat and the Navy is gone. It was really quiet tonight by comparison. There were some cute local girls at Coyote and a couple of the other bars but they were attached. Did the same places you hit. Was going to try Insiders (?) (where the old Laguna used to be) but it was already 1A and decided to head home as have a couple DH lined up in the evening. There were some real cuties on the street too. I guess they have to come out and trawl for clients now!

NB.

D / H on a Saturday or Sunday.

Probably 50% want taxi money and the other 50% are freebies. This is more likely for residents as the girls can develop a relationship. And see you on further occasions. If you want a certainty P$P on a Sunday afternoon. Try Queen Victoria, Old China Hand or Bar 109 around lunch time. D / H will accept 500.

Gee for that Lovely Japanese girl you could have had 3 domestic helpers.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1232000]Try . Bar 109 around lunch time [on a Sunday][/QUOTE]Oh naughty girl, Chantik.

You didn't warn them that as well as possibly getting a D/H girlfriend du jour they also will rupture their ear drums inside Bar 109, if they go there when it is a closed disco at lunch time on Sundays and other labour holidays.

The music is ridiculously loud in there (erm, at least that is what I have been told *wink*).

I also have been told by others that some naughty things happen from time to time inside the bar, either down in the smoking area or in the cramped mezzazine floor, with young D/Hs who are wasted on grog or other substances. On this I really have no personal experience, but that is the urban myth.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Boarer;1231793]Having stood on the Alamo and surveyed all that surrounds it, there were only 100-200 Texian irregulars defending a church against an army with a lot more fire power. Out numbered more than 10 to 1, many there still think it was even odds. That's why they need ten gallon hats down there.[/QUOTE]But the Texicans had John Wayne, Richard Widmark and Frankie Avalon on their side! Of course it wasn't a fair fight. The band of Latino gardeners didn't stand a chance.

BTW, Boarer, were you at Coyote at lunch time today (Saturday)? I saw a distinguished looking gentleman chilling out in a black t-shirt. Thought it might be you but didn't say Hello. I am shy by nature (*wink*).

Happy New Year to all (even to you, Gigolo).

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1231349]Great report. I was actually prodding you to tell Chantik that the Nimitz class is the biggest, meanest and sickest ship to sail the Seven Seas.[/QUOTE]I am embarrassed to say that when I originally read your post, Boarer, I mis-read "brief retort" (about the carrier) for "brief report" (about navy in town).

That is why I posted my longish report about Lockhart action. Heh heh, Chantik's reading comprehension is far superior to mine.

Today (Saturday) afternoon was very quiet. Even the usual urchins were thin on the ground in Queen Vic and OCH.

Will venture out tonight and report tomorrow (if I have any brain cells left, that is).

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1232004]Oh naughty girl, Chantik.

You didn't warn them that as well as possibly getting a D / H girlfriend du jour they also will rupture their ear drums inside Bar 109, if they go there when it is a closed disco at lunch time on Sundays and other labour holidays.

The music is ridiculously loud in there (erm, at least that is what I have been told *wink*).

I also have been told by others that some naughty things happen from time to time inside the bar, either down in the smoking area or in the cramped mezzazine floor, with young D / Hs who are wasted on grog or other substances. On this I really have no personal experience, but that is the urban myth.

Cheers[/QUOTE]I am assuming that Natty is a fast worker. So should get a takeaway from Bar 109 in 5 minutes.

I started in New Makati and too early (10:30) latched onto a nice Indonesian DH on her weekend off. I bought her a gin and tonic and we chatted and then went off to watch the fireworks.

On the way there, I saw a turbo hottie dressed to the nines that I hadn't seen in a year or so. Wonder what the nanny thought of that? So left the hottie with promises to call her soon (I will but she is not one to lack for attention so I'm sure she wasn't lonely tonight) and I ambled off to the fireworks near the water. The domestic helper stopped to use the toilet at Spicy Fingers and then I saw another hottie outside that I only knew from Facebook. Again, it was an awkward moment but we ambled on.

After the fireworks, we had dinner at Cinta-J and the DH took a bus home to a room she rented for the weekend in Mongkok. I couldn't tell if she was super nice, naive, not interested, or just tired. I said something about her being too nice to ask back to my room and she laughed. I have met DHs in Laguna on a Sunday afternoon in 2009 and 2010 who were clearly not looking to make a buck (but their friends were) so I know it's possible she was a nice girl. She gave me her number. It was weird.

Maybe the weirdness was me? Maybe once she saw me with the other girls, she knew the score on me?

I then went home, changed, and went back out at 4 and saw a lot of commotion outside Amazonia. An ambulance and police were there but the place was still open for business.

I saw an ex's best friend who looked sick and desperate for a taxi. No mean feat to get one in Wanchai at 4 AM on New Year's Day. I hailed one for her and put her in the back and paid the driver the $100HKD he wanted for a normally $20HKD fare.

I hit the usual places and didn't feel the urge. I think I'm getting too old for this. I just don't like the hard sell and when the chicks look too slutty, too desperate, it seems less like fun.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1232007]But the Texicans had John Wayne, Richard Widmark and Frankie Avalon on their side!

I saw a distinguished looking gentleman chilling out in a black t-shirt.

Happy New Year to all (even to you, Gigolo).[/QUOTE]Well, Pilgrim. I did not see that one (I did see the posters at a store) but think Jimmy Crocket or Daniel Boone were actually on site.

I think I have been compared more to Quasimodo. You know, shy and hiding in the dark recesses of the bars. Never been to QV (too many female quadragenarians sitting outside) or Bar109. Am putting them on my bucket list.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1232158]think Jimmy Crocket or Daniel Boone were actually on site.[/QUOTE]Davy Crockett, Jim Bowie and William Travis

First: Happy New Year Everyone. I wish I was in Asia right now. Last night I spent a quiet evening with my American girl (a 37 year old real estate broker). I took her out to a nice restaurant and we had a bottle of Italian wine. Afterwards we went back to my place, watched an Adam Sandler movie in bed, and enjoyed a single shag before going to sleep. Total cost for the meal, wine, tip and taxes was over $135. I like her and we have been dating for a couple months, but frankly I would have preferred a young Asian hottie. She is sleeping in my bedroom right now, so I have a chance to write this.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1232000]D / H on a Saturday or Sunday.

Probably 50% want taxi money and the other 50% are freebies. This is more likely for residents as the girls can develop a relationship. And see you on further occasions. If you want a certainty P$P on a Sunday afternoon. Try Queen Victoria, Old China Hand or Bar 109 around lunch time. D / H will accept 500.[/QUOTE]Thank you Chantik for the information. I will give these bars a look see next time I am in Wanchai.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1232057]I am assuming that Natty is a fast worker. So should get a takeaway from Bar 109 in 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]I am as direct as a guided missile when I am on the hunt, but no way can I perform a pickup in 5 minutes. When I walk into a bar or Go Go, I instinctively know what I am looking for – sexy smiling girl with a nice body, natural ta ta's and a pretty, not too much makeup, fresh face. There are three possibilities. 1. I spot a girl (s) like that real fast and if she smiles back at me, I ask her over for a drink without hesitation. 2. I see some friendly looking girls, but I am not sure about them. In this case I sit down and order a drink in order to survey the situation and maybe see a better option. 3. I spot no one of interest and after circling the bar a few times, I move on to greener pastures.

So under the right circumstances, I can spot a pretty girl possibility in about 5 seconds. But then I ask her over for a drink and the interview begins. I watch her facial expressions, eye contact, body language and personality to gauge if she is up for having a good time with me. So on average, it takes me at least a 20 minutes to make a final decision, although sometimes the girl is all over me, making out and rubbing my crotch so she passes the audition almost immediately, but in these cases I am having such a great time in the bar, there is no reason to cut it short. This happens more in small AC bars and Thai Go Go's than in Wanchai, but I have had some pretty good make out sessions in Wanchai bars too. If a working girl wants to seal the deal and the chemistry is right, she knows exactly what to do.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1232004]Oh naughty girl, Chantik.

You didn't warn them that as well as possibly getting a D / H girlfriend du jour they also will rupture their ear drums inside Bar 109, if they go there when it is a closed disco at lunch time on Sundays and other labor holidays.

The music is ridiculously loud in there (erm, at least that is what I have been told *wink*).

I also have been told by others that some naughty things happen from time to time inside the bar, either down in the smoking area or in the cramped mezzanine floor, with young D / Hs who are wasted on grog or other substances. On this I really have no personal experience, but that is the urban myth.

Cheers[/QUOTE]There are two things that ruin a bar for me: really loud music that prevents me from conversing with a girl, and poor lighting. I need to get a good look at the girls. Some Wanchai bars are just too damn dark. If I can't see good, I am going to walk and not even buy a drink. You would think the bar managers would be aware of this. What are they trying to hide?

[QUOTE=Chantik;1232000]Gee for that Lovely Japanese girl you could have had 3 domestic helpers.[/QUOTE]Apples and oranges, my dear Chantik. I am aware much cheaper alternatives were available to me in HKG at the time. I could have gone to Temple Street (200-500hk) , or 37 Dundas (guaranteed PSE) , or done a 141 hotel walk down. But I was interested in something special that early evening and I got it. Once in a while I need a change from the usual chicken and pork dishes I usually have and go for a really great steak. The steak maybe 3 or 4 times the cost of chicken and rice, but so what? Sometimes you got to treat yourself. Suko was definitely worth it. I left her room with a smile on my face and was I was totally satisfied in more ways than one. I see girls as unique individuals. So for me, they are not a fungible commodity like a bushel of soybeans. One girl is not interchangeable with another and not all pussy is the same. Hence, price is not the only factor to consider.

Natty, you said no lube with Suko. Did you fuck her bareback?

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1231787]I am no expert on this subject, but I would like to give a report of my experience with DH Sunday, the 2nd to last day on my 2011 Asia trip. In the early afternoon, I walked around Victoria Park which was overflowing with Indonesian women enjoying their day off and having lunch. The women showed no interest in me and I wasn't too interested in them either as most were in their native dress and wearing scarves over their heads.[/QUOTE]Apropros of nothing at all, except for Nattys DH search, I found myself often in HK on a Sunday in 2008/2009 and early 2010. I was fortunate to find an Indonesian lady who was walking across Victoria Park who gave me a very long look. She wasnt wearing a tudung but the intensity of her look ensured I smiled, asked her name etc etc. Fast forward an hour or two and we were in my room in Excelsior doing the normal. After 2 hours of good sex, she said she had to leave to a party etc. I secured her number and on many weekends thereafter we met outside Sogo at about 2, bump and grind and then she would leave by 4 or 5.

I would then head to Laguna, as it was then called. However twice I was in Laguna when I got angry texts asking me why I left her to go to Laguna. On both ocassions I exited Laguna to find her outside crying asking me why I'm chasing other women. I told her I went there to watch the sports. LOL.

Anywats fast forward a year and we were chatting on YM. Little Ms Jealous then told me that she would often meet a guy on Sunday morning for Sunday am sex play and he would then drop her off near Sogo so she could meet me.

So, as Ms Cantik can no doubt verify, Indonesian ladies are great to look at, but don't always take them at face value. (and I have many more stories about Jakarta trips posted here demonstrating their fickleness). Happy new year why, all!

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1232555]I was fortunate to find an Indonesian lady . Fast forward an hour or two and we were in my room in Excelsior doing the normal. After 2 hours of good sex, she said she had to leave to a party etc. Find her outside crying asking me why I'm chasing other women. Little Ms Jealous then told me that she would often meet a guy on Sunday morning for Sunday am sex play and he would then drop her off near Sogo so she could meet me.

Happy new year why, all![/QUOTE]Seems your sex buddy has a strong sex appetite. Maybe she texted yu angry because her 3rd buddy of the day was missing in action! LOL

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1232555]Apropros of nothing at all, except for Nattys DH search, I found myself often in HK on a Sunday in 2008/2009 and early 2010. I was fortunate to find an Indonesian lady who was walking across Victoria Park who gave me a very long look. She wasnt wearing a tudung but the intensity of her look ensured I smiled, asked her name etc etc. Fast forward an hour or two and we were in my room in Excelsior doing the normal. After 2 hours of good sex, she said she had to leave to a party etc. I secured her number and on many weekends thereafter we met outside Sogo at about 2, bump and grind and then she would leave by 4 or 5.

I would then head to Laguna, as it was then called. However twice I was in Laguna when I got angry texts asking me why I left her to go to Laguna. On both ocassions I exited Laguna to find her outside crying asking me why I'm chasing other women. I told her I went there to watch the sports. LOL.

Anywats fast forward a year and we were chatting on YM. Little Ms Jealous then told me that she would often meet a guy on Sunday morning for Sunday am sex play and he would then drop her off near Sogo so she could meet me.

So, as Ms Cantik can no doubt verify, Indonesian ladies are great to look at, but don't always take them at face value. (and I have many more stories about Jakarta trips posted here demonstrating their fickleness). Happy new year why, all![/QUOTE]Ha Ha HA.

Indonesian D / H have been known to have a guy for breakfast, lunch or dinner if available.

You seeing outside Laguna is because a mate would have sent her a text.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1232643]Ha Ha HA.

Indonesian D / H have been known to have a guy for breakfast, lunch or dinner if available.

You seeing outside Laguna is because a mate would have sent her a text.[/QUOTE]So my joke seems being a real fact!

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1232674]So my joke seems being a real fact![/QUOTE]

Absolutely.Some of the girls want a steady BF - tell him that they get off work at 1pm, instead of 8am. Then try to make money in the morning.

Guys I want to butt into the Chantik discussion for a moment I have been going back and forwards to HK for years 10 + and I can say 100 % I know this person, and as for the comments in the beginning when she 1st came to the forum you are all wrong these are the facts; like it or not.

1) Chantik is a women.

2) She is from Indonesian.

3) She has lived in HK for 10 years +so she know the lie of the land.

4) She has a full time job but does massage to supplement her income.

5) Chantik has a fantastic body she goes to the Gym 4 day a week.

6) I can say 100% you get good value for money.

7) Can suck like you would not believe

8) Is shaved

9) And is a dam nice person.

So for all you 'so call critics ' you owe Chantik a apology, why don't you ask her some sensible questions that 'we Mongers' can get the answers too, because we aren't on the ground ALL the time and she is, you may find 'surprise surprise ' she could be a lot of help to you to get good information.

Cheers Kanosia

There has been no evidence posted that chantik is a Indonesian woman. I might believe an experience ISGer, but not someone with 2 post. I do agree "she" does have useful info on the HK scene, but so do a lot of guys. She may or may not be. But I can say for sure I have never come across a DH or a SE asian working girl that writes like she does.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1231656]If anyone reports negatively on American we are lefties.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1233043]There has been no evidence posted that chantik is a Indonesian woman. I might believe an experience ISGer, but not someone with 2 post. I do agree "she" does have useful info on the HK scene, but so do a lot of guys. She may or may not be. But I can say for sure I have never come across a DH or a SE asian working girl that writes like she does.[/QUOTE]Hi Makeupaname why don't you get your head out of the sand and look around? I just told you she is Indonesian what do you want me to do come round and give it to you in writing, just because I have only posted 2 times means nothing, I pay my money like we all do I have been to HK more time's than you have had roots, so get over it she is Indo Finish

Kanosia

She has said she was Indonesian before (I think her username is indonesian for beautiful. Could be wrong).

That being said, I don't think it is fair to go on and specify so many details about her on a forum. If she wants everyone to know, she should be the one that posts.

Regardless, This is a forum, not a court. If you want to beleive she is a hairy LB, what do I care? Believe that. The point is not worth arguing or defending for my mind.

I've read this forum thoroghly over the last couple of weeks and want to visit HK for the first time in the next couple of months. This is my first post in theis forum. Mainly because Chantik answers questions before I ask them. All I can say is that her detail and thoroughness are appreciated and I have no reason to beleive she has anything to gain from lying.

Lastly, I know she has been thanked many times before, but while I'm posting. She has my thanks and appreciation.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 835858]BR,

One of the girls was indeed from a velvet curtain bar, but the other was from one of the discos.

They never located the disco girl, but tracked the velvet curtain girl down through credit card receipts.

The poor velvet curtain girl was charged with breaching her conditions of stay (ie, visa says dancer, but she admitted to sleeping with the guy for money) , and she was deported.

And, yes, the girls did not have anything to do with supplying the drugs. The guys had been partying and drinking hard for about a week before this incident. They had been buying their own drugs.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Wasn't the Velvet Curtain Girl from the GO Go Bar next to the now closed Laguna?

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1233043]There has been no evidence posted that chantik is a Indonesian woman. I might believe an experience ISGer, but not someone with 2 post. I do agree "she" does have useful info on the HK scene, but so do a lot of guys. She may or may not be. But I can say for sure I have never come across a DH or a SE asian working girl that writes like she does.[/QUOTE]My writing is very average. Maybe a bit better than an average Indonesian. But not that good.

For your information all Indonesians must do 3 years of English at High School.

And many D / H or W / L go to high school if not finish high school.

[QUOTE=Kanosia; 1232950]Guys I want to butt into the Chantik discussion for a moment I have been going back and forwards to HK for years 10 + and I can say 100 % I know this person, and as for the comments in the beginning when she 1st came to the forum you are all wrong these are the facts; like it or not.

1) Chantik is a women.

2) She is from Indonesian.

3) She has lived in HK for 10 years +so she know the lie of the land.

4) She has a full time job but does massage to supplement her income.

5) Chantik has a fantastic body she goes to the Gym 4 day a week.

6) I can say 100% you get good value for money.

7) Can suck like you would not believe

8) Is shaved

9) And is a dam nice person.

So for all you 'so call critics ' you owe Chantik a apology, why don't you ask her some sensible questions that 'we Mongers' can get the answers too, because we aren't on the ground ALL the time and she is, you may find 'surprise surprise ' she could be a lot of help to you to get good information.

Cheers Kanosia[/QUOTE]You have three posts to your name, including this one. Most likely you are 'Chantik' under another name hoping to add credence to you charade. You're not fooling anyone mate.

I've never met Chantik but I know she is real.

Before she appeared on this board, I was in contact with her by email due to her ad on an adult site. Since she has appeared on ISG, she's sent me by PM the location of her profile on a different adult site-same pictures and initial. She could not have known that me the poster and me the emailer were the same person.

I therefore conclude she is real.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1233091]Maybe a bit better than an average Indonesian.

For your information all Indonesians must do 3 years of English at High School. And many D / H or W / L go to high school if not finish high school.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Makeupaname;1233043]But I can say for sure I have never come across a DH or a SE asian working girl that writes like she does.[/QUOTE]Makeupaname, you are in luck. There are actually quite a few Indo DH and WL in HK who have great oral skills, in English. It always amazes me how well some people around the world can speak English. From those in the Himalayas to those in Frankfurt to those in the middle of a desert. I am a newbie but I know of a least 8 Indo ladies in HK who can speak well and have decent written skills (judging from texting).3 are Wanchai regulars and they are there whenever I cruise by.

Several are actually fluent to a level that they can throw really good insults and cuts at me. Subtle, witty and to the point. I usually gravitate towards those with whom I can have intercourse in more than one manner. Notches do not matter to me anymore.

Most are fluent in more than one language (besides the many versions of Java). Many prefer to communicate amongst themselves in Cantonese to improve their skills. Hence many gravitate towards the local and the subcontinent guys. Some can also speak Mandarin fluently. Then again, many do not speak English.

The ones I know personally who have a great command of English are usually college graduates or worked at hotels / resorts. For whatever reason, they decided to work as domestics or WL here in HK.

BTW, Indo Christian ones read the English bible. Not an easy feat. Also, I was on a really tiny Indo island once when, walking by a schoolhouse, someone had written the work "F. K" in big letters on the wall.

Also those multilingual ones are usually over 25. Takes time and energy to learn another language.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1233128]Makeupaname, you are in luck. There are actually quite a few Indo DH and WL in HK who have great oral skills, in English. It always amazes me how well some people around the world can speak English. From those in the Himalayas to those in Frankfurt to those in the middle of a desert. I am a newbie but I know of a least 8 Indo ladies in HK who can speak well and have decent written skills (judging from texting).3 are Wanchai regulars and they are there whenever I cruise by.

Several are actually fluent to a level that they can throw really good insults and cuts at me. Subtle, witty and to the point. I usually gravitate towards those with whom I can have intercourse in more than one manner. Notches do not matter to me anymore.

Most are fluent in more than one language (besides the many versions of Java). Many prefer to communicate amongst themselves in Cantonese to improve their skills. Hence many gravitate towards the local and the subcontinent guys. Some can also speak Mandarin fluently. Then again, many do not speak English.

The ones I know personally who have a great command of English are usually college graduates or worked at hotels / resorts. For whatever reason, they decided to work as domestics or WL here in HK.

BTW, Indo Christian ones read the English bible. Not an easy feat. Also, I was on a really tiny Indo island once when, walking by a schoolhouse, someone had written the work "F. K" in big letters on the wall.

Also those multilingual ones are usually over 25. Takes time and energy to learn another language.[/QUOTE]Lovely Post.

Don't forget that most Indo's are Muslim. So we can read and write some Arabic.

We spend a long time reading the Koran.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1233089]Wasn't the Velvet Curtain Girl from the GO Go Bar next to the now closed Laguna?[/QUOTE]No, it is one of the two between Wharney and Mes Amis. I won't give the name of which one on the open board.

Cheers.

I live in Macau and have daily contact with indos. I know they speak, read and write english. I do appreciate Chantiks info. I do believe its accurate info on the wan chai bars.

Anyway, I'll be in HK next week, Chantik. I would love to buy you a drink and have you prove me wrong.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1233315]No, it is one of the two between Wharney and Mes Amis. I won't give the name of which one on the open board.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Ok.

I heard otherwise. But then again. Bars like to be famous.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1233322]I live in Macau and have daily contact with indos.[/QUOTE]My apologies Monsignor. Did not mean to preach to the pulpit.

[QUOTE=Kanosia;1232950]Guys I want to butt into the Chantik discussion for a moment[/QUOTE]"A picture is worth a thousand words." Please.

Happy New Year.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1233371]Ok.

I heard otherwise. But then again. Bars like to be famous.[/QUOTE]One of my long time friends (now happily married and with kids) was working in that bar at the time. We exchanged texts every day, and she told me that one of the girls in her bar had been arrested and then deported. There was another non go go bar girl involved, and my friend told me that the other girl, who the police never tracked down, was a disco girl, from Laguna I think, but possibly Fenwick.

Was she lying to me? Maybe, but she never lied about other stuff (including about needing money for sick buffalo etc). I believed her at the time. I still exchange birthday and Christmas greeting with her to this day, and so I still believe her. But, as you say, on the street of shame who can really believe anything they are told?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1233107]You have three posts to your name, including this one. Most likely you are 'Chantik' under another name hoping to add credence to you charade. You're not fooling anyone mate.[/QUOTE]Even has a name and writes like "chantik". He's probably harmless but you have to wonder what life some people have to play this charade over such a period.

[QUOTE=The Voice;1233442]Even has a name and writes like "chantik". He's probably harmless but you have to wonder what life some people have to play this charade over such a period.[/QUOTE]Yep, forgot to mention that as well. Same writing style. I'm with you on the charade. Just don't see the point.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1233114]I've never met Chantik but I know she is real.

Before she appeared on this board, I was in contact with her by email due to her ad on an adult site. Since she has appeared on ISG, she's sent me by PM the location of her profile on a different adult site-same pictures and initial. She could not have known that me the poster and me the emailer were the same person.

I therefore conclude she is real.[/QUOTE]But did you ever meet 'her'? Sorry, but the issue is whether Chantik is female or not, which you still have no proof of.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1233499]But did you ever meet 'her'? Sorry, but the issue is whether Chantik is female or not, which you still have no proof of.[/QUOTE]If you read my post and think about it logically you'll see it strongly tends to support Chantik's assertion of who she is.

Another thing I forgot to mention in my post, is that she used a different name in her email to me when I contacted her on an adult site. I met another Indo DH / part time WG from the same site, who spontaneously asked me whether I'd met any other girls from that site, and mentioned Chantik by name, except using the other name Chantik had used on that site. Again not foolproof but IMHO a strong indication that Chantik is real.

Either way I've never understood the hostility toward her. She obviously knows what she's talking about.

Since you're so certain she's fake, why not arrange a meeting with her? If you're wrong you'll fuck her for 1K which is standard ST rate for Wan Chai girls. If you're right, it'll cost you nothing and you will get to tell everyone here I told you so. Win-win scenario.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1233080]She has said she was Indonesian before (I think her username is indonesian for beautiful. Could be wrong).

That being said, I don't think it is fair to go on and specify so many details about her on a forum. If she wants everyone to know, she should be the one that posts.

Regardless, This is a forum, not a court. If you want to beleive she is a hairy LB, what do I care? Believe that. The point is not worth arguing or defending for my mind.

I've read this forum thoroghly over the last couple of weeks and want to visit HK for the first time in the next couple of months. This is my first post in theis forum. Mainly because Chantik answers questions before I ask them. All I can say is that her detail and thoroughness are appreciated and I have no reason to beleive she has anything to gain from lying.

Lastly, I know she has been thanked many times before, but while I'm posting. She has my thanks and appreciation.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your kind words.

I am certain you will have fun in HK.

It is a quiet night, and it's cold and raining so I'm staying in, and so I thought I would add a few comments on the big debate, ie, is Chantik really a woman?

My own view is that it doesn't really matter. Her / his posts are accurate and insightful. I enjoy reading them. That said, I believe she is who she says she is, but even if I am wrong, so what? I will still enjoy this board. I will still get served a beer in Wanchai. I will still be able to find good pussy in HK.

Anyway, onto the stirring (*wink*).

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1233496]Yep, forgot to mention that as well. Same writing style [ie, for both Chantik and Kanosia].[/QUOTE]What "writing style" are you and The Voice talking about? That they both use English? That they use properly formed and connected sentences of English prose? If that is all you got, then I must be Chantik as well, and I am also Johnny Rocket and Boarer, etc etc.

I have looked at the writing styles and to me there are numerous differences. To bore you, Kanosia misses the period from the end of many sentences and particularly the very last sentence of a post, but Chantik does not; Kanosia uses a semi colon for a break within a sentence, whereas Chantik uses a dash; Kanosia uses single quotation marks for emphasis, whereas Chantik uses capitals; and Kanosia uses the annoying word "Guys" a lot (no offence Kanosia) , but Chantik does not.

Over and above all of that, if your brilliant theory is right, Gigolo and The Voice, Kanosia craftily created this false identity almost 5 years ago, when posting about China and South Korea, and then used it to defend his own deception when he created Chantik 4 months ago.

You two geniuses are providing excellent comedic entertainment to the Board. Keep it up.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1233496]I'm with you on the charade. Just don't see the point.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Time for you to let it go man. You are still pissed that she whipped your butt in the debate about the navy and that anyone who calls the navy boorish drunken meatheads must be ungrateful anti-americans who should stop expressing opinions and just quietly thank America for all she provides. As I said in an earlier post, your posts sounded so much like Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men.

Accept defeat gracefully and move on. Go chase some pussy and have a beer and chilll out.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1233496]Sorry, but the issue is whether Chantik is female or not, which you still have no proof of.[/QUOTE]So, to summarise your point, GG, you say that Chantik must be a man because we have no "evidence" either way. Hmmm, from where I stand that leaves it as an open question. To me it sounds like another one of your "GG says it is so, therefore it must be so" declarations. Hilarious. Man, thanks for the entertainment. Keep up the good work.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1233841]It is a quiet night, and it's cold and raining so I'm staying in, and so I thought I would add a few comments on the big debate, ie, is Chantik really a woman?

My own view is that it doesn't really matter. Her / his posts are accurate and insightful. I enjoy reading them. That said, I believe she is who she says she is, but even if I am wrong, so what? I will still enjoy this board. I will still get served a beer in Wanchai. I will still be able to find good pussy in HK.[/QUOTE]Ah. Could not have put it better myself. I like the spice she adds. Will do a DNA test should it progress to that level of intimacy.

That said, had a great warm massage at one of those cheap places last night. Electric blanket underneath and warm hands and electric heater above. Only problem is my tiny Thai had a cold. So I'm upping my mega Vitamin Cs and hoping that she does not have bi_r__d f_lu. Might try to replace the blanket and heater with two warm bodies.

Does anyone find it odd that CL w4m has been completely dead for a month? Several WGs used to post there regularly.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1233961]Does anyone find it odd that CL w4m has been completely dead for a month? Several WGs used to post there regularly.[/QUOTE]CL was forced to delete the Erotic section in December 2010. Slowly during 2011 the Casual Encounters replaced the Erotic section. Think that w / L got around the filtering system. And people got sick of flagging ADS. Most of the Ads were from Ladyboys. One had 7 different ads at the onetime.

You need to realise that HK section of casual encounters was the most free in advertising. If you checked Europe there were no ads from WORKERS.

So probably girls / ladyboys / working men were lucky, although I have one or two Girlfriends who are unhappy.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few months.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1233979]CL was forced to delete the Erotic section in December 2010. Slowly during 2011 the Casual Encounters replaced the Erotic section. Think that w / L got around the filtering system. And people got sick of flagging ADS. Most of the Ads were from Ladyboys. One had 7 different ads at the onetime.

You need to realise that HK section of casual encounters was the most free in advertising. If you checked Europe there were no ads from WORKERS.

So probably girls / ladyboys / working men were lucky, although I have one or two Girlfriends who are unhappy.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few months.[/QUOTE]Understad that but just last month there were several new ads a day. Some of them were real people and were really women. I met a couple of them. But all of a sudden the ads just stopped.

Hi all,

I haven't been to HK in a while but does xxx141. Com still exist? I just tried it but it seems to be gone. Is there another site? Please pm me if this is a touchy subject.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Chatnik]Finally, W / L aren't dumb. They know for every 100 guys that walk into Escape. 30 are guys who want a girl for the night. 20 guys may be tempted and the 50 guys are there to have a drink and a good time with their mates.[/quote]Ok sorry for digging up an old quote, but what 'tells' can you pick up from a guy to advertise that you are in the first 20%

Also would you expect a similar ratio at other professional bars (Neptune / Fenwick / Joe Bananas / Amazonia)?

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1234157]Understad that but just last month there were several new ads a day. Some of them were real people and were really women. I met a couple of them. But all of a sudden the ads just stopped.[/QUOTE]Read the first paragraph of my previous email.

Craigs List must be careful

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1233519]If you read my post and think about it logically you'll see it strongly tends to support Chantik's assertion of who she is.

Another thing I forgot to mention in my post, is that she used a different name in her email to me when I contacted her on an adult site. I met another Indo DH / part time WG from the same site, who spontaneously asked me whether I'd met any other girls from that site, and mentioned Chantik by name, except using the other name Chantik had used on that site. Again not foolproof but IMHO a strong indication that Chantik is real.

Either way I've never understood the hostility toward her. She obviously knows what she's talking about.

Since you're so certain she's fake, why not arrange a meeting with her? If you're wrong you'll fuck her for 1K which is standard ST rate for Wan Chai girls. If you're right, it'll cost you nothing and you will get to tell everyone here I told you so. Win-win scenario.[/QUOTE]Actually, no it doesn't. But whatever, believe what you want and so shall I. And I have no interest in meeting Chantik, whether he's male or female or both. I just think it's ridiculous for a guy to pretend to be a chick on this forum for really no reason at all. It wouldn't be the first time, either, I might add.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1233841]It is a quiet night, and it's cold and raining so I'm staying in, and so I thought I would add a few comments on the big debate, ie, is Chantik really a woman?

My own view is that it doesn't really matter. Her / his posts are accurate and insightful. I enjoy reading them. That said, I believe she is who she says she is, but even if I am wrong, so what? I will still enjoy this board. I will still get served a beer in Wanchai. I will still be able to find good pussy in HK.

Anyway, onto the stirring (*wink*).

What "writing style" are you and The Voice talking about? That they both use English? That they use properly formed and connected sentences of English prose? If that is all you got, then I must be Chantik as well, and I am also Johnny Rocket and Boarer, etc etc.

I have looked at the writing styles and to me there are numerous differences. To bore you, Kanosia misses the period from the end of many sentences and particularly the very last sentence of a post, but Chantik does not; Kanosia uses a semi colon for a break within a sentence, whereas Chantik uses a dash; Kanosia uses single quotation marks for emphasis, whereas Chantik uses capitals; and Kanosia uses the annoying word "Guys" a lot (no offence Kanosia) , but Chantik does not.

Over and above all of that, if your brilliant theory is right, Gigolo and The Voice, Kanosia craftily created this false identity almost 5 years ago, when posting about China and South Korea, and then used it to defend his own deception when he created Chantik 4 months ago.

You two geniuses are providing excellent comedic entertainment to the Board. Keep it up.

Exactly. Time for you to let it go man. You are still pissed that she whipped your butt in the debate about the navy and that anyone who calls the navy boorish drunken meatheads must be ungrateful anti-americans who should stop expressing opinions and just quietly thank America for all she provides. As I said in an earlier post, your posts sounded so much like Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men.

Accept defeat gracefully and move on. Go chase some pussy and have a beer and chilll out.

So, to summarise your point, GG, you say that Chantik must be a man because we have no "evidence" either way. Hmmm, from where I stand that leaves it as an open question. To me it sounds like another one of your "GG says it is so, therefore it must be so" declarations. Hilarious. Man, thanks for the entertainment. Keep up the good work.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Believe what you want, Goober. Nobody gives a fuck, least of all me.

I have no idea what Chantik's sex is. For that matter I have no idea what anybody's sex is or who anybody here really is, so I don't care. While I may disagree with some of Chantik's points, her posts are informative, accurate, and within the acceptable bounds of this forum. It does not bother me in the least that we seem to have a 'spy' from the female side writing reports and contributing to the forum. Go girl.

My minor difference of opinion with Chantik is over Indonesian and Filipina FL's and DH's. Chantik has a very pro Indonesian girl POV. This is understandable since she is an Indo women herself and is in the business of promoting Indo girls. I on the other hand, as a avid consumer and gourmond of Asian pussy, have no particular agenda other than to get it on with the best looking and most satisfying Asian girls I can find. Which brings me to the point of this post. I think it is time to conduct a little non scientific poll: From what country do the hottest / best looking girls in Hong Kong hail. My nominees are: Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Indonesian and Filipina. And my vote goes to Chinese, Mongolian, and Thai. A 3 way tie more or less because on any given night, there is a 90 percent likelihood I will end up with a girl from one of these three countries and a 10 percent probabilty I will hook up with Viet hottie. Yep, I have never had sex with a Filipina or an Indonesian girl in HKG. I have been to the PI and shagged many girls there, but that is another story. I also had sex one time with a Filipina girl I met at MP3 bar in Macau. I was unsure, but she won me over in one of the booths in the back of the bar, nice girl. And I have shagged only one Indonesian girl in my life, but that was in Amsterdam. She was great. I still remember that occasion even though it was 4 or 5 years ago. So I have nothing against Filipinas or Indos. In fact, I will be in the PI in February and I am slated to visit Batam and Jakarta later in the fall 2012. I am looking forward to my cherry boy Jakarta/Batam trip big time. But, as far as HKG goes, I have never gone Indo or Filipina. The girls of the other nationalities always look hotter to me when I am on the prowl. This is just my experience in Hong Kong maybe your experiences differ.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1234366]I have no idea what Chantik's sex is. For that matter I have no idea what anybody's sex is or who anybody here really is, so I don't care. While I may disagree with some of Chantik's points, her posts are informative, accurate, and within the acceptable bounds of this forum. It does not bother me in the least that we seem to have a 'spy' from the female side writing reports and contributing to the forum. Go girl.

My minor difference of opinion with Chantik is over Indonesian and Filipina FL's and DH's. Chantik has a very pro Indonesian girl POV. This is understandable since she is an Indo women herself and is in the business of promoting Indo girls. I on the other hand, as a avid consumer of Asian pussy, have no particular agenda other than to get it on with the best looking and most satisfying Asian girls I can find. Which brings me to the point of this post. I think it is time to conduct a little non scientific poll: From what country do the hottest / best looking girls in Hong Kong hail from. My nominees are: Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Indonesian and Filipina. And my vote goes to Chinese, Mongolian, Thai and Vietnamese – a 4 way tie more or less because on any single night, I always choose a girl form one of these four countries. Yep, I have never had sex with a Filipina or an Indonesian girl in HKG. I have been to the PI and shagged many girls there, but that is another story. I also had sex one time with a Filipina girl I met at MP3 bar in Macau. I was unsure, but she won me over in one of the booths in the back of the bar, nice girl. And I have shagged only one Indonesian girl in my life, but that was in Amsterdam. She was great. I still remember that occasion. I have nothing against Filipinas or Indos. In fact, I am slated to visit Batam and Jakarta later in the fall 2012 and I am looking forward to this cherry boy trip big time. But, as far as HKG goes, I have never gone Indo or Filipina. The other nationalities always look hotter whenever I am on the prowl. This is just my experience in Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]An interesting 'poll' you are proposing there, Natty my Boy. Any answers to your query are obviously going to be highly biased, both by previous experiences and even the cultural backgrounds of your fellow responding mongers. But what the hell, it should still be fun, so let me take the first stab at enumerating 'my' list of the best of HK by nationality.

Hong Kong being a world class capital of the free market system, I suppose one could start with the pricing of the pleasures of said ladies probably acting as a rough guide in this endeavor. One should keep in mind, however that the 'pricing structure' also reflects the tastes and sensibilities of the local Chinese mongering male and the many Asian businessmen frequenting this market as much as anything. Following that line of thought, your theoretical 'line-up' would run something like this:

1) Japanese. 2) Korean. 3) Mongolian,

Followed closely by 4) PRC China Dolls,

5) Teng Viet

6) Thai

7, 8) with the Indonesia and the Filipinas rounding out the list.

That's a very rough guide, with pricing (reflecting supply and demand?) for the first three or four probably being very interchangeable.

Having sampled all but a Japanese lady in HK in the recent past, (I included nearby Macau, hope that counts) I must say my absolute favorite has been Mongolian for what I prefer; a full on, GFE with lots of hot, steamy action and a very 'open mind'. I must also confess, though, that I've met a Korean gal that could make my head spin. I enjoy quality time spent with some of the Mainland PRC Princesses, too, but have found them to be a bit 'mechanical' as often as not. I purposefully did not include CIS / Eastern European WLs, Africans or Latinas. We all see them in HK, but I'm going to limit my polling to Asian women as these others are 'exotics', and not what I believe most Punters are really looking for in Honkers.

And no offense meant to any of the other nationalities in my admittedly very biased 'Asian Dream List' (especially to 'lovely Chantik'!) , We all know on a given night, any one of these ladies can be very special, and some of my most memorable romps in Hong Kong include time spent with a pleasant enough looking but incredibly enthusiastic Filipina DH just out for some fun and companionship on her day off.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1234316]Believe what you want, Goober. Nobody gives a fuck, least of all me.[/QUOTE]But Gigolo, you DO keep responding (albeit in monochrome and monosyllables). That tends to show that you DO in fact give a fuck.

Oh. Nice well thought out response, BTW. You must have been the absolute terror of your school yard when you were at elementray school. Let me guess, you were the big dim witted boy who thought he was the best simply because he bullied the smaller kids into agrreeing he was right.

Sorry, doesn't work in the adult world. But do keep rehearsing those Jack Nicholson lines.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1234366]I think it is time to conduct a little non scientific poll: From what country do the hottest / best looking girls in Hong Kong hail. My nominees are: Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Indonesian and Filipina. And my vote goes to Chinese, Mongolian, and Thai.[/QUOTE]Natty, great question. (Let me buy you a beer when you are here in HK.)

This poll of yours will show how we can all have the same basic interest (pussy) , but vary tremendously in our application of the principle.

I much prefer filipinas. Can't say why, I just do.

Second are the Indos, because they like to shag and often have very nice tits. (No disrespect Chantik.)

Chinese and Thais a distant third.

Vive la difference! The difference that actually unites us.

Cheers.

PS to my old friend Chaos Theory - no, I don't always get trapped in Ming Court with a big titted Indo when I am supposed to be meeting you for a beer. That did happen twice, but I was a victim of circumstance on both occasions.

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1234384]An interesting 'poll' you are proposing there, Natty my Boy. Any answers to your query are obviously going to be highly biased, both by previous experiences and even the cultural backgrounds of your fellow responding mongers.

And no offense meant to any of the other nationalities in my admittedly very biased 'Asian Dream List' (especially to 'lovely Chantik'!) , We all know on a given night, any one of these ladies can be very special, and some of my most memorable romps in Hong Kong include time spent with a pleasant enough looking but incredibly enthusiastic Filipina DH just out for some fun and companionship on her day off.[/QUOTE]And that, Rippa, is precisely the spirit in which all of us should respond to Natty, who has started a poll that should stop much of the silliness of late and get us all back on track, ie, chasing and appreciating the top quality pussy available here in HK.

Cheers.

Natty.

Think your post should be split into two parts.

1) Sexiest.

2) Best service.

Some punters want the sexiest girl, others want the best service.

Sometimes you are lucky and get both.

Got to say that the Kinkiest guys are from Germany and France.

Hi Chantik,

If your service is anywhere close to your looks, then surely, you must be #1 in HKG.

DS

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1234366].Which brings me to the point of this post. I think it is time to conduct a little non scientific poll: From what country do the hottest / best looking girls in Hong Kong hail. My nominees are: Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Indonesian and Filipina. And my vote goes to Chinese, Mongolian, and Thai. .[/QUOTE]Interesting poll. Due to my limited experience (and failures!) in Hong Kong I mustn't participate in this specific poll.

But generally speaking (from shagging dozens, if not hundreds of asian girls) Thai girls still rule my world. I know a lot of regular mongers are a little fed up with that Thai charme but for me it still works. The prettiest girl I have ever fucked was from Phitsanulok, Thailand and even with all the Isaan girls I have very seldom experienced a total flop. Burmese girls (allthough not nominated) can be very nice too. Japanese girls were always a fantasy thing for me and the two I had were outstanding personalities. With Chinese girls I've had very varying experiences (some of them fantastic, some of them not good at all and with some hygiene issues) , my Viet and Filipina experience is very limited (only one of each) , so I cannot comment on them. Oh, and I am beginning to develop a soft spot for Indo girls allthough I didn't manage to score one. Maybe next time!

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1234594]I much prefer filipinas. Can't say why, I just do.

(no disrespect Chantik.) [/QUOTE]Have to agree. Over the years I get the best GFE from them. That is not to say others are not good, its just my opinion.

My DH's have always been good in bed, but they are in it for sex as opposed to making money & a living from it. My in-call Chinese "massage" girl that I reported about in November is worth a repeat if only for her enthusiasm.

Hope to be able to say Indos are the best after my next visit in a few weeks time. The smart among you can read between the lines and work that one out!

[QUOTE=Rippa;1234384], and some of my most memorable romps in Hong Kong include time spent with a pleasant enough looking but incredibly enthusiastic Filipina DH just out for some fun and companionship on her day off.[/QUOTE]I agree. Can't really be beat!
Agree with Goober as well (#6059) - nice to be back on the right track.

With this world crisis prices going down or not?

How is average price with this new 2012?

Thanks

If this poll only takes into account the experiences I have had in HK, then my "list" would go like this. I arranged them by "most enjoyable" as opposed to "Hottest". After reading Chantik's post, I wanted to clarify my list.

1. Pinay's Never had a "bad" night with a Fils lady, some better than others, but never "not good".

2. Mongolian, small sample size, but the one I met. Twice, was off the hook!

3. Indo, never had a full fledged P4P lady, but have enjoyed the company of a few GREAT Dh ladies, unfortunately they have left HK.

4. Viet's- Probably the "hottest" of the bunch, there are a few VERY talented plastic surgeons in Vietnam. A few of these girls looked great in the mirror, but it was all biz.

5. Thai- very small sample size again, but I had better luck on their home turf than in HK.

What's my best bet for meeting a Mongolian girl in HK?

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1234840]If this poll only takes into account the experiences I have had in HK, then my "list" would go like this. I arranged them by "most enjoyable" as opposed to "Hottest". After reading Chantik's post, I wanted to clarify my list.

1. Pinay's Never had a "bad" night with a Fils lady, some better than others, but never "not good".

2. Mongolian, small sample size, but the one I met. Twice, was off the hook!

3. Indo, never had a full fledged P4P lady, but have enjoyed the company of a few GREAT Dh ladies, unfortunately they have left HK.

4. Viet's- Probably the "hottest" of the bunch, there are a few VERY talented plastic surgeons in Vietnam. A few of these girls looked great in the mirror, but it was all biz.

5. Thai- very small sample size again, but I had better luck on their home turf than in HK.[/QUOTE]Agree about Thais outside Thai.

Have a couple of Thai W / L friends. And they explain that in Thailand. They are happy to be barfined and not go to week for a few days, so usually a good GFE experience. Whereas outside of HK the Thai girls usually freelance. So can be choosy.

Anyway you seem to have good success in HK.

Hope it continues.

Looks like I'll be in HK for Chinese new year does anyone know if that will be good or bad for a bit of mongering?

And I have never had a bad time with a Filipina too!

Got to be filipinas at the top of the list but my love of Indo girls is on the rise. Have four visits scheduled to HK over the next few months so looking forward to meeting Uncle Goober for a beer!

CT.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1234594]Natty, great question. (Let me buy you a beer when you are here in HK.)

This poll of yours will show how we can all have the same basic interest (pussy) , but vary tremendously in our application of the principle.

I much prefer filipinas. Can't say why, I just do.

Second are the Indos, because they like to shag and often have very nice tits. (No disrespect Chantik.)

Chinese and Thais a distant third.

Vive la difference! The difference that actually unites us.

Cheers.

PS to my old friend Chaos Theory. No, I don't always get trapped in Ming Court with a big titted Indo when I am supposed to be meeting you for a beer. That did happen twice, but I was a victim of circumstance on both occasions.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OutAndAbout99; 1235007]Looks like I'll be in HK for Chinese new year does anyone know if that will be good or bad for a bit of mongering?

And I have never had a bad time with a Filipina too![/QUOTE]Assuming that you don't Chinese women. It is fine.

Lots of different nationalities who don't celebrate CNY.

Great time for Domestic helpers. They have a few holidays.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1235039]Assuming that you don't Chinese women. It is fine.

Lots of different nationalities who don't celebrate CNY.

Great time for Domestic helpers. They have a few holidays.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]I'm going to be in HK for CNY as well. Arriving on the night of the 17th. Any of you guys ever meet up for dinner or drinks before going out for the hunt?

[QUOTE=OutAndAbout99; 1235007]Looks like I'll be in HK for Chinese new year does anyone know if that will be good or bad for a bit of mongering?

And I have never had a bad time with a Filipina too![/QUOTE]Chinese New Year is a great time, the Filipino and Indo maids are set free for a few days while families go into China, so you can get overnights a lot easier.

So this will be the first time that I'll be in HK for CNY. Is Bar 109 open everyday? Like Sunday?

By the time CNY rolls around, I'll be in my small serviced apartment. Hope it's not too small for any ladies I might happen to meet. Ming Court is not exactly romantic.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu;1235309]So this will be the first time that I'll be in HK for CNY. Is Bar 109 open everyday? Like Sunday?[/QUOTE]Bar 109 will be open every night. As for whether it will have the closed-door disco every day, that probably will be a wait and see issue. They open it every Sunday, but only do so on other general labour (aka statutory) holidays if they are satisfied that there will be a large number of Indo maids available and wanting to attend. Although the labour / statutory holidays during CNY are the Sunday and all three of the Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, the sad reality is that many Chinese employers just don't give all of those holidays to their DHs.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu;1235309]I'll be in my small serviced apartment. Hope it's not too small for any ladies I might happen to meet. Ming Court is not exactly romantic.[/QUOTE]I hope that your apartment smells better than Ming Court, as well.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu; 1235309]So this will be the first time that I'll be in HK for CNY. Is Bar 109 open everyday? Like Sunday?

By the time CNY rolls around, I'll be in my small serviced apartment. Hope it's not too small for any ladies I might happen to meet. Ming Court is not exactly romantic.[/QUOTE]You have been very quiet since your arrival in HK! What have you been up to?

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1235437]You have been very quiet since your arrival in HK! What have you been up to?[/QUOTE]I've been laying low a bit. Saw an old regular on Friday. And hit 37 Dundas for the 2-girl show twice this week. Despite minor misgivings, it was a fantastic show both times. Both times I managed to get one girl that looked not quite Chinese. A touch Eurasian, I guess.

I went to that place on Reclamation Street once and that was fantastic.

And I went back to 311 Portland Street. The place is on a new floor in that spot. I don't know what happened (maybe their original spot was closed down) but they seem to be occupying a more narrow floor higher up in the building.

Great, great session yesterday with a gal who looked like Christina Ricci. No way was she 100 percent Chinese. Maybe Russian? I have no idea but she was not quite what I was looking for but still amazing.

Picked up a chubby little Indo maid at Bar 109 on Sunday. Talked her down from 1200 to 800 for a few hours at Ming Court. I keep drawing the room there that smells like ass-and-armpits! The first time I went there, the room I got was actually acceptable.

What else? Need to spend less since I'm here for the longhaul now.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1235117]Chinese New Year is a great time, the Filipino and Indo maids are set free for a few days while families go into China, so you can get overnights a lot easier.[/QUOTE]Looking forward to CNY now, thanks.

Don't know of bar 109 may have to do a bit of research.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu; 1235637]I've been laying low a bit. Saw an old regular on Friday. And hit 37 Dundas for the 2-girl show twice this week. Despite minor misgivings, it was a fantastic show both times. Both times I managed to get one girl that looked not quite Chinese. A touch Eurasian, I guess.

I went to that place on Reclamation Street once and that was fantastic.

And I went back to 311 Portland Street. The place is on a new floor in that spot. I don't know what happened (maybe their original spot was closed down) but they seem to be occupying a more narrow floor higher up in the building.

Great, great session yesterday with a gal who looked like Christina Ricci. No way was she 100 percent Chinese. Maybe Russian? I have no idea but she was not quite what I was looking for but still amazing.

Picked up a chubby little Indo maid at Bar 109 on Sunday. Talked her down from 1200 to 800 for a few hours at Ming Court. I keep drawing the room there that smells like ass-and-armpits! The first time I went there, the room I got was actually acceptable.

What else? Need to spend less since I'm here for the longhaul now.[/QUOTE]The girls at Bar 109 must think you are a gentleman.

Standard price for Helpers is $500.

Then again one helper claims that she got $20, 000 to go with 2 guys from QV one Sunday.

This story is becoming famous!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1235690]The girls at Bar 109 must think you are a gentleman.

Standard price for Helpers is $500.

Then again one helper claims that she got $20, 000 to go with 2 guys from QV one Sunday.

This story is becoming famous![/QUOTE]The first time I went to Bar 109 in 2010, I met an Indonesian DH and we went back to my hotel room and had hours and hours of fun with no mention of money.

I finally asked her where she lived and it was Hung Hom. So I offered to give her taxi money. She asked for $1000HKD so I gave it. Didn't know I should have bargained.

(And yes, I know that a taxi to Hung Hom does not cost that much!)

So now every time I see this gal, I feel obligated to give her $1000HKD for the hours we spend together.

I think since I immediately suggested going to Ming Court with the gal on Sunday that she was more business-minded. She asked for $1200 first and I laughed and walked and then she quickly dropped to $800.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1235690]Standard price for Helpers is $500.[/QUOTE]How do you know when you are dealing with a DH instead of a WG? Is it safe to say that if you meet her at the bar on Sat. Or Sun. In the afternoon then she is a DH, but if you meet her at the bar in the evening she is a WG?

Agree with chantik, Sunday afternoon dh should be 500. Of course I admit I've paid more. I prefer the hotel about a block and 1/2 past ming court. I think its the beverly, you go up the stairs to the next level, and can not see the cashier because the window is so tiny. A little bit more than ming court but it doesn't smell like ass. If I like the girl I'm with, I tell them I have 1000HKD and they get what ever is left over after hotel charge, hotel is around 300? so they get 700.

Ive always thought the girls in 109 were dressed way to pro, to drunk, to smoky, but its been my 1st stop on Sunday afternoon, never tried around 4 or 5PM.

I'm arriving in HK tomorrow and will stay through CNY.

[QUOTE=Jrob5;1235712]How do you know when you are dealing with a DH instead of a WG?[/QUOTE]Generally you just ask them. A WG can only get a short term visa. They (DH & WG) will always ask you questions such as where do you stay and how long you are in HK. They do this so they can fine tune their pricing in the case of a WG and for future potential for a DH. Ask them similar so you can fine tune your response.

[QUOTE=Jrob5;1235712]How do you know when you are dealing with a DH instead of a WG? Is it safe to say that if you meet her at the bar on Sat. Or Sun. In the afternoon then she is a DH, but if you meet her at the bar in the evening she is a WG?[/QUOTE]Simple.

A D / H will not be out after 10pm. Unless there is an exceptional circumstance. Employer on holidays.

You meet on a Sat or Sun afternoon. Ask what time they have to be home.

Or an old trick. Is that experienced guys feel their hands. If they are a bit rough 90% chance they are a helper.

[QUOTE=BJK;1235784]Generally you just ask them. A WG can only get a short term visa. They (DH & WG) will always ask you questions such as where do you stay and how long you are in HK. They do this so they can fine tune their pricing in the case of a WG and for future potential for a DH. Ask them similar so you can fine tune your response.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I am new to this forum.

Can some one help me to get a independent contact in Bangalore?

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1235791]Simple.

A D / H will not be out after 10pm. Unless there is an exceptional circumstance. Employer on holidays.

You meet on a Sat or Sun afternoon. Ask what time they have to be home.

Or an old trick. Is that experienced guys feel their hands. If they are a bit rough 90% chance they are a helper.[/QUOTE]Hi M8, you seem to know your way around HK, just down from BJ for a few days, can you offer me some assistance? Maybe a number for a good outcall? Maybe there is a place to meet up with some players and see how it works here. Not a lot of time though, any help appreciated from any of you guys. Cheers in advance.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1235732]Agree with chantik, Sunday afternoon dh should be 500. Of course I admit I've paid more. I prefer the hotel about a block and 1/2 past ming court. I think its the beverly, you go up the stairs to the next level, and can not see the cashier because the window is so tiny. A little bit more than ming court but it doesn't smell like ass. If I like the girl I'm with, I tell them I have 1000HKD and they get what ever is left over after hotel charge, hotel is around 300? So they get 700.

I've always thought the girls in 109 were dressed way to pro, to drunk, to smoky, but its been my 1st stop on Sunday afternoon, never tried around 4 or 5PM.

I'm arriving in HK tomorrow and will stay through CNY.[/QUOTE]Bar 109 becomes a normal bar at 5pm.

[QUOTE=Dynamic;1235798]Hi M8, you seem to know your way around HK, just down from BJ for a few days, can you offer me some assistance? Maybe a number for a good outcall? Maybe there is a place to meet up with some players and see how it works here. Not a lot of time though, any help appreciated from any of you guys. Cheers in advance.[/QUOTE]Totally unrelated question: I would like to check out Sha Tin horse racing, any followers of the sport of kings out there? I hope to get there on Wednesday or Thursday, maybe a good place to start a day / night if anyone is interested?

[QUOTE=Jrob5;1235712]How do you know when you are dealing with a DH instead of a WG?[/QUOTE]It's not rocket science. You simply ask!

Chances are that in, for example, New Makati, the only place I have visited on a Sunday afternoon, they are all DH. I've never failed there and never mentioned money beforehand, which you would almost certainly do at night in any of the other bars. After a drink (or two) , and the vibes are right, I ask if she would like to come back to my hotel. You know the answer you are going to get anyway. I've always had a great time, and made the girl's day by giving her $500 "for her to spend on herself". That way, there is no loss of face (on either side).

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1234366]. Which brings me to the point of this post. I think it is time to conduct a little non scientific poll: From what country do the hottest / best looking girls in Hong Kong hail. My nominees are: Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Indonesian and Filipina.[/QUOTE]It's tempting to vote for an 8-way tie!

But if I'm forced to make a choice, I choose the Thai girls, with the Chinese second.

And thanks for re-focusing this board on sex, rather than discussing Chantik or Americans.

[QUOTE=OutAndAbout99; 1235659]Looking forward to CNY now, thanks.

Don't know of bar 109 may have to do a bit of research.[/QUOTE]Well, you pay about 1000 more a night at CNY for a medium hotel.

To go to HK at that time will cost you not matter what.

Ok so I decide to try one of the "hotel walk-in" selections from the 141 site. I've done the (what do you call it) 'apartment' thing on trips in the past, and I don't have good memories of all that.

I sent txt msg to 3 girls I selected, with no answer. Finally "Lulu" ($800 HKD) from Kowloon TST replied. I met her in a hotel near Nathan road! On the elevator in and out I noticed several other working girls, and tourists with kids in the lobby. It made me smirk, if only those tourists knew what was going on here.

So the positive: I like going into a hotel. No bad feelings from shambling around the stairs of a creepy apartment, bumping into other mongers. The girl was a tall Chinese, and very lovely. She spoke English. She was slender, and had that soft, fair skin you want in a Chinese girl. Getting out of the shower I felt her pussy and she was soaking wet! Clearly she was used to Japanese customers as she kept up that semi-crying act that Japanese girls do in the porn films. She did a good job sucking on my cock, and was aggreable to being mounted in a variety of positions.

Not so good: geez her pussy was big! Like poking a bucket with a stick. And no jokes about me being too small. She told me I was really big (hehe). You'd think a girl used to Asian customers would not be so worn out. And I deliberately went there about 6pm, figuring to maybe be her first of the day. Additionally, her minder called after about 30 minutes. I had finished before then (somehow) , but I thought the deal was 1 pop AND and hour, but I haven't been mongering in a while.

Well it was nice having a Chinese girl, but this reminds me why non-pros are also desirable. I may try one more and then just hold it for my trip to Manila.

[QUOTE=Jambo; 1235934]Ok so I decide to try one of the "hotel walk-in" selections from the 141 site. I've done the (what do you call it) 'apartment' thing on trips in the past, and I don't have good memories of all that.

I sent txt msg to 3 girls I selected, with no answer. Finally "Lulu" ($800 HKD) from Kowloon TST replied. I met her in a hotel near Nathan road! On the elevator in and out I noticed several other working girls, and tourists with kids in the lobby. It made me smirk, if only those tourists knew what was going on here.

So the positive: I like going into a hotel. No bad feelings from shambling around the stairs of a creepy apartment, bumping into other mongers. The girl was a tall Chinese, and very lovely. She spoke English. She was slender, and had that soft, fair skin you want in a Chinese girl. Getting out of the shower I felt her pussy and she was soaking wet! Clearly she was used to Japanese customers as she kept up that semi-crying act that Japanese girls do in the porn films. She did a good job sucking on my cock, and was aggreable to being mounted in a variety of positions.

Not so good: geez her pussy was big! Like poking a bucket with a stick. And no jokes about me being too small. She told me I was really big (hehe). You'd think a girl used to Asian customers would not be so worn out. And I deliberately went there about 6pm, figuring to maybe be her first of the day. Additionally, her minder called after about 30 minutes. I had finished before then (somehow) , but I thought the deal was 1 pop AND and hour, but I haven't been mongering in a while.

Well it was nice having a Chinese girl, but this reminds me why non-pros are also desirable. I may try one more and then just hold it for my trip to Manila.[/QUOTE]These girls start around 12PM, so it is extremely unlikely you were the first.

The price is for 45 minutes. Sometimes you might get lucky and get 1 hour but that is rare unless the girl has no customers.

[QUOTE=FunnySam; 1235795]Hi,

I am new to this forum.

Can some one help me to get a independent contact in Bangalore?[/QUOTE]And what Bangalore has to do with Hong Kong?

[QUOTE=Dynamic;1235803]Totally unrelated question: I would like to check out Sha Tin horse racing, any followers of the sport of kings out there? I hope to get there on Wednesday or Thursday, maybe a good place to start a day / night if anyone is interested?[/QUOTE]Dyno,

Yes, I am a horse racing fan. As a member of the HK Jockey Club, I can get you a ticket or tickets to get you into the members' stand, if you want. Unlikely that I will join you (too much to do during CNY) , but PM me if you are interested.

Happy V is usually Wednesday night, with Shatin on either the Sat or Sun. But during CNY, the fixtures are both at Shatin, namely on Sat 21st and Weds 25th.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1235732]I prefer the hotel about a block and 1/2 past ming court. I think its the beverly, you go up the stairs to the next level, and can not see the cashier because the window is so tiny.[/QUOTE]Three quarters of a block up is Beverly, on 4 / F.

The one a block and a bit up, where you walk up the stairs, is Victoria.

Victoria has recenlty been renovated (although is still a short time fuck palace) , but Victoria is more expensive that Beverly, and both are more expensive that Ming. Ming is far and away the most grotty (but sometimes that added sleaze factor can enhance the experience for some mongers).

Cheers.

Ok, so it must be the victoria. I thought the room was very decent for a love hotel, and would not mind staying there anytime. The price on Sunday afternoon was around 300+ for 2 hours. I also stayed there once overnight during the middle of the week while waiting for a visa. 500HKD after midnight.

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[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1236015]Ok, so it must be the victoria. I also stayed there once overnight during the middle of the week while waiting for a visa. 500HKD after midnight.[/QUOTE]You must have been lucky. I have been quoted HK$800 for overnight.

And be careful if you take two ladies there. They charge you DOUBLE, ie, about HK$600 for the two hours. And all they have done is provide you with one extra towell.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1236101]You must have been lucky. I have been quoted HK$800 for overnight.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]The JJ Hotel located at 165 Wanchai Road is not far. Nightly rates start at HK$625 for a superior room. Rooms are very good value and as big as you get in HK. Coffee / tea / bottled water supplied daily. All free. Free WI Fi. Comfortable big king size bed. Stayed there last November. No complaints whatsoever. The reception is on 9th Floor so when you enter on the ground floor to take the lift to your floor, no one is there to see you. Take as many as you like up unnoticed! No walk of shame!

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1236101]You must have been lucky. I have been quoted HK$800 for overnight.

And be careful if you take two ladies there. They charge you DOUBLE, ie, about HK$600 for the two hours. And all they have done is provide you with one extra towell.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I was quoted a higher price when I first inquired at 11:15PM, then the lady suggested I come back in 45 minutes when its 500. Also it was a Tuesday or Wednesday night.

No walk of shame.

You guys only PUNT cause of the ' walk of shame '.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1236183]No walk of shame.

You guys only PUNT cause of the ' walk of shame '.[/QUOTE]Far be it for me to get into a war of words with the lovely Chantik. I've seen what has happened to others who dared cross her!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1236183]No walk of shame.

You guys only PUNT cause of the ' walk of shame '.[/QUOTE]The only time I was actually concerned about this was in India one time. The girl was delivered to the hotel and when I went out to meet / evaluate her, my manager showed up in a taxi. So I had to hastily arrange things and haul ass with the girl to avoid detection. That was too close!

For the so called walk of shame, though, I really don't care. While it's true that people see me with a woman half my age (or less, but no jailbait) and think what they like, I figure most of the men are thinking "Damn, wish I was in his shoes" and the women are thinking "Damn, those guys always like the young Asian girls over fat broads like me." In the end, who cares? They don't know you and you don't know them. Nothing at all to be ashamed of anyhow. Just go enjoy your time while you have it! Wink Wink.

The Tanuki

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1236327]The only time I was actually concerned about this was in India one time. The girl was delivered to the hotel and when I went out to meet / evaluate her, my manager showed up in a taxi. So I had to hastily arrange things and haul ass with the girl to avoid detection. That was too close!

For The Tanuki[/QUOTE]Reminds me of a time I'm staying in Le Meridien Hotel Jakarta.

A young and very interesting lady I was expecting was late but texting me that she's on her way and will meet me in the lobby in 15 minutes.

I had two work colleagues, both also texting me, teling me their flight was early, and their taxi would be arriving in 15 minutes and can we meet in lobby.

Its not a very big lobby, but I find a vantage point to spy on the driveway.

The colleagues came first, and in taxi that pulled up behind them is my girl. Short shiny green dress, wild hair, long legs and stripper high heels.

I told the guys I'm in business centre, textd the girl to meet me by the elevators, got her to the room, met the guys for 5 minutes then got to Ms Green Dress. Its so funny the stuff we do.

Even funnier was a time in the same hotel when I planned on meeting a cute but very jealous regular gf. She could always sniff if a girl had been in my room and would check the bed for hairs etc. Insanely jealous but hot hot hot. So what did I do. Rented myself another room in same hotel so I could see her there LOL. Lthe mongering game is really quite funny.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1236183]No walk of shame.

You guys only PUNT cause of the ' walk of shame '.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I always felt that the 'Walk of Shame' was walking back to your hotel alone. No shame in having company for the night in my book.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1236283]Far be it for me to get into a war of words with the lovely Chantik. I've seen what has happened to others who dared cross her![/QUOTE]My bark is worse than my bite!

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1236327]The only time I was actually concerned about this was in India one time. The girl was delivered to the hotel and when I went out to meet / evaluate her, my manager showed up in a taxi. So I had to hastily arrange things and haul ass with the girl to avoid detection. That was too close!

For the so called walk of shame, though, I really don't care. While it's true that people see me with a woman half my age (or less, but no jailbait) and think what they like, I figure most of the men are thinking "Damn, wish I was in his shoes" and the women are thinking "Damn, those guys always like the young Asian girls over fat broads like me." In the end, who cares? They don't know you and you don't know them. Nothing at all to be ashamed of anyhow. Just go enjoy your time while you have it! Wink Wink.

The Tanuki[/QUOTE]I was half joking with my previous post, although some punters insist that for outcalls that you dress conservatively.

[QUOTE=The Tanuki;1236327]While it's true that people see me with a woman half my age (or less, but no jailbait) and think what they like, I figure most of the men are thinking "Damn, wish I was in his shoes" and the women are thinking "Damn, those guys always like the young Asian girls over fat broads like me." In the end, who cares? The Tanuki[/QUOTE]Had exactly the same experience when I took a young Filipina out for dinner one night. At the table next to me the woman drew daggers all the time, so much so we had to move tables as my girl was getting uncomfortable. The man with her (her husband probably) however just smiled that envious smile. Said it all.

Even if there is no walk of shame I like a girl to be reasonably dressed. I had a really strong fancy on a girl I met in Borocay last visit but just could not take her out and she was all over me. As I reported at the time, she nearly had a dress on. She could have passed as my grandaughter if she had not been so slutty. I know I missed out.
A couple of yeras ago I had a "live in" for 2 weeks while staying in the Cosmopolitan. Going for breakfast in the morning was a nightmare for the first few days, then I started to get nice smiles from the other guys - and so did the GF!

Does anyone know what time Club New Makati in Wan Chai gets going on a Sunday night?

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1236083][url]http://www.dateinasia.com/Cerry222.html[/url][/QUOTE]Don't mind her friend either "anniecx maura"

Maybe Chantik can answer this one: I am moving into a small serviced apartment in a day near a major shopping center.

What's the situation like when I bring a gal home from one of the clubs? How will this be different compared to bringing them to my hotel?

My apt. Is tiny so will that be a negative?

I had an Indonesian girl from Boracay tell me not to trust the Filippinas in Boracay as they were stealing from guys.

So now I'm afraid to bring anyone home since my new place won't have a safe.

(Though I've never had a girl try to steal from me in all my visits to HK.)

I just feel like I'll have to be more sure before I bring someone home for a night and I'm not a huge fan of Ming Court for a WG. For a DH on a Sunday, it might be okay for a few hours but not for an LT WG.

All apartments are small in HK. If you have an apartment, you could become a regular for them. Generally working girls don't want to cause problems, because they are generally on tourist visa and doing something illegal

If no safe then lock valuables in your luggage, and if you're worried about your luggage buy a small chain type lock to attached it to something.

Off back to the insanity of Beijing tonight. Big thanks to the brothers who came to my assistance in Hong Kong. Lakeside for the race info, Uncle Goober for the kind offer, hope next time can get to take those tickets, and the very wonderful Chantik.

Hong Kong trip was all too short, much to discover here.

Cheers, happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1236767]All apartments are small in HK. If you have an apartment, you could become a regular for them. Generally working girls don't want to cause problems, because they are generally on tourist visa and doing something illegal

If no safe then lock valuables in your luggage, and if you're worried about your luggage buy a small chain type lock to attached it to something.[/QUOTE]I guess I'm just going to be self-conscious about the small space. Compared to the hotels I've stayed at previously, this serviced apartment is much smaller.

Still, I know how the WGs live in Wan Chai. I saw my friend's place last summer. About 4 or 5 Indonesian gals in an apartment with one bathroom and kitchen. Only one bedroom had AC. The biggest bedroom (with the AC) was a tiny bit bigger than my place here but I've got a bathroom and two windows.

I guess it will be an adventure living here now after just being a tourist before.

I have a filipina coming to visit me in HK during CNY. She wants to go dancing, but I don't want to take her to Wan Chai (WG bar) or LKF. Any other recommendations? Something simple, maybe with a good live bad? I'm near TST.

Regarding HK apartments. I am currently staying in a 2 bedroom serviced apartment in HK. Its about the size of my living room in Macau.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu;1236891]I guess it will be an adventure living here now after just being a tourist before.[/QUOTE]I think you will have a great time. I have always thought that Hong Kong would be a great town to live in for a year or so. Great restaurants, interesting people, all the conveniences of a great modern city, plus it is close to Macau, CP, AC and even BKK if you get bored and need a fast getaway for a few days to a week. You will have your favorite bar girls to entertain you, a steady stream of new talent to check out, and a variety of venues and girl nationalities to keep you from getting bored. There are real advantages to being a local over being a tourist. Let us know how you settle in to everyday life. HKG is on my top 3 list of cities I am considering as a second home away from home.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1236117]The JJ Hotel located at 165 Wanchai Road is not far. Nightly rates start at HK$625 for a superior room.[/QUOTE]Hi Jack,

Thanks for the tip. I've searched for this hotel and the room seems good enough, however, its pretty difficult finding a website that is taking bookings for this hotel (on any date I try)

How do you normally book this hotel?

Visiting this fair city!

Doing my research now and looking forward to it.

What are good rates for FS w / WG both walkup and hotel?

I will read the fn webpage but a simple answer would help as there seems to be a lot of threads here lately that have nothing to do with dipping my wick, and I hate paying too much and driving up the price for everyone else too.

Any of the bars with ladies that are more oriented towards billiards than disco?

Hoping there's hope for a nice 45yo gentleman on a budget to wear himself out while there!

[QUOTE=Switched; 1236916]Hi Jack,

Thanks for the tip. I've searched for this hotel and the room seems good enough, however, its pretty difficult finding a website that is taking bookings for this hotel (on any date I try)

How do you normally book this hotel?[/QUOTE]I use lastminute. Com. No problems and you don't pay up front. Pay the hotel at the end of your stay.

Saw 141, Mirako on 16F Kaisun Mansion Bldg. Row of girls working 16 FL.

Asked for 2 pops fpr 800HKD and she was ok with that. Stayed almost 2 hours there. Everything covered and COF was $200HKD extra lol

She was ok but will not repeat as Macau has better for less Viet girls IMHO.

PC out

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1237005]I use lastminute. Com. No problems and you don't pay up front. Pay the hotel at the end of your stay.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at the JJ couple of times and booked through their own website since I did not find better rates through agent websites. [url]http://www.jjhotel.com.hk/[/url]

Thanks guys,

I noticed that when you are booking, their rooms are listed as a "Twin or Double" without giving you the option to specify what type of room you want.

Do you have much issues getting a double bed when you rock up? Or is it a case of crossing your fingers and hoping for the best?

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1237022]Saw 141, Mirako on 16F Kaisun Mansion Bldg. Row of girls working 16 FL.

Asked for 2 pops fpr 800HKD and she was ok with that. Stayed almost 2 hours there. Everything covered and COF was $200HKD extra LOL.

She was ok but will not repeat as Macau has better for less Viet girls IMHO.

PC out[/QUOTE]You lucky guy! Live it up. It is definitly more fun than SGV.

Rammer

[QUOTE=Mitchell;1236512]Does anyone know what time Club New Makati in Wan Chai gets going on a Sunday night?[/QUOTE]New Makati gets really going around 5pm on Sunday afternoons and it keeps going strong until 8pm. On Sundays, if I'm in town and feel like mongering, I will get there around 4pm while enjoying a couple of drinks and watching all the talent coming in. I enjoy feeling the atmosphere building up, slowly at first and increasingly rapidly later in the afternoon because for me the journey matters as much as the destination. Endless chances to get nice girls if you know how to play your hand and play it cool.

Came back from Shenzhen late on Friday night and decided to go out even if I was really tired. Nothing that a few Guinness cannot fix. Checked out Amazonia first. I like Filipinas. But did not go in as there were way too many guys. The man to woman ratio must have been five to one. New Makati was somewhat better but talent was still below average. I guess I will go back to Makati on Sunday afternoon, when it never fails to deliver. Walked around a little bit and went to Insider (the old Laguna now completely renovated and under new management) which was totally dead like the previous two times that I had checked it out since it opened up at the end of last year. I guess Insider will not stay in business for much longer if it keeps going like that. Did not feel like going to Escape and Neptune II. Too many pros for my taste. So went back to Amazonia. Still not much talent and still too many guys but a few Guinness restored quickly my energy level and started chatting with some Filipina free lancer regulars. Decided to pass and moved on to the rear part of Amazonia where I met a couple of Filipina domestic helpers with the right attitude. Bought two round of drinks and then we moved on to my apartment with one of the ladies for some late night action. Average look but great sex drive and initiative. She was so wet that made a mess of my bed. Left at 5:30am as she had to work in the morning without asking for any taxi money and I did not offer any either. I have being guilty of overspending and overpaying many times in the past but maybe I am at last getting better calibrated to the market. All in all a good night and slept like a baby thereafter.

Hey.

I was in Hongkong last week for 4 days had a pleasure of visiting four places for adventure, and to add K-Pressure was the best amoung the lot.

Walk-in Hotel.

Walked in into a Hotel after phoning the guy who told me the Hotels name on Nathan road and on reaching the Hotel again telephoned for the room NO. Knocked the room, got the room opened I did not like the girl as I have a flair for young looking girls came back telling her NO. Again called another No. Same repeat, this time the girls was young. Removed my dress she gave me a bath all mechanical washed my dick washed herself and onto the bed CBJ since I was on Viagra I was a boner she stared making all the sounds of a porno film these girls may put to shame all the film stars for acting. I was well prepared not to give up and to make the best use of HK$ 800 never got excited and kept on knocking like a tennis player with pill driven stamina. The More sound she made, the pounding got deeper and I was feeling as if I am in a race with an actor who wanted me come fast. I said to myself I am going to teach you a lesson got her into doggy gave further pushing, HEY SHE WAS TIGHT BUT A GREAT ACTOR MAKING ALL KIND OF SOUNDS she was telling me make it fast I said no, in spite of all actions after about 30 minutes I gave up she was tired but kept on smiling took me to the bath room again washed me made me to dress took the money and opened the room as if to push me out.

K-Pressure.

Visit here is worth HK$500. I got a girl named Asha (god only knows how many naming ceremonies these girls have) little plumpy but smiling and nice company. Nice rubbing in the bathroom soapy massage and then to bed. I was not on pill and in spite of her all the efforts I could not stand and it was a total failure. But the BBJB was excellent and tried again and again but I was in and out many times of the condom tried to jack up with BBJB, but could not come up, stamina of yesterday had gone somewhere, bell rang up it was time dressed she held my hand mamasan was waiting for the report I said thumbs up. All for HK $ 500 it was worth and surely repeat again.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1237051]Thanks guys,

I noticed that when you are booking, their rooms are listed as a "Twin or Double" without giving you the option to specify what type of room you want.

Do you have much issues getting a double bed when you rock up? Or is it a case of crossing your fingers and hoping for the best?[/QUOTE]I always ask in advance for a double bed. They are king size. Very comfortabe.

As regards rates, when I was paying my bill on my last visit I asked the receptionist about a room for my next visit and she advised to book online as it was cheaper. I think about $30/40 a night less but every little helps!

[QUOTE=Holefiller; 1236958]Visiting this fair city!

Doing my research now and looking forward to it.[/QUOTE]The forum is full of information on pricing so RTFF.

As a guide, and to help you on your way, don't pay more than HK$1000 for LT for any of the WG you get in the Wan Chai bars. You can get ST for about $600. You may need to bargain, however and it depends on the time of night you are making your pitch. Freebies are available on a Saturday / Sunday from the DH on their day out in New Makati. A tip of $500 will go down well with them. Don't go near the GO Go bars on the main Lockhart Road (the curtained doors with the girls and mamasans sitting outside). You can get ripped off in there.

The 141 places advertise their costs and generally what you see is what you pay.

Don't know much about billiards etc. This is not Dubai.

Hey these are Pussy money Banks.

Third Day I wanted to visit K-Pressure again but on the way I thought of giving a look at 141 walk up girls. As I was staying near Champane court I decided to have a look at the girls.

What a wonderful atmosphere all shouts you can hear on the passage its a sheer pleasure you can listen to. I could visualize the scene inside. I knocked a room it did not open perhaphs the girl inside did not like me, a guy walked out of the room knocked that room door opened I did not like said NO. Another room, in between I was delighted to listen to all kind of acting sounds in the passage. In fact I was on my way to K-Pressure to get that pleasure of yesterday its sheer curiosity to look at the girls at walk in made me to come here.

Door opened a tall girl with a giggling smile invited me in, I asked how much said 500. She was good looking I don't know what happened I decided to stay she removed her dress all made up Boobs I touched them felt siicon inside made fun of her she was also smiling, took me to wash I was in full force.

Put on condom inspite of my protests and started blowing trying hard to make me out, I said No all she wanted was to hurry up and take her 500. She was up on me trying like a vibrator doing it fast never allowed her. PUt her on the bed rode her to go deep into her. I always get agitated when they try to hurry up and give them forcefully never willing to give up so easily. Made her to take me doggy what a reluctant way to take away my 500. Put her on the bed again her legs on my shoulder pumped her again and again. I was tight like a rock and the condom was covering only my half. She was putting her legs together I seperated them and pumped her again. I was determined not to come and came out without cumming. She let out a long breath.

My HK$ 500 had gone for an actor. She was tall told me she's Chinese but I cannot make out Chinese or viet. Any way these are all Pussy money Banks. But they have a que to get in.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1237155]I always ask in advance for a double bed. They are king size. Very comfortabe.

As regards rates, when I was paying my bill on my last visit I asked the receptionist about a room for my next visit and she advised to book online as it was cheaper. I think about $30/40 a night less but every little helps![/QUOTE]Thanks Jack,

FYI. I've looked at lastminute. Whilst I can find this hotel, most days it appears sold out for me (I am hoping to visit in April). It appears that this is heavily booked on most of the hotel travel sites I know.

Looked at the prices to book this directly from the hotel website. Their rates are upwards from $1200 a night (see [url]http://www.jjhotel.com.hk/roomrate.htm[/url]) anf they add a 10% service charge afterwards.

Best site I found to book this hotel was from booking. Com. They give a 34% discount. I'm just hoping that the hotel reads the "Special requests" section and I end up with a double bed!

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu; 1236671]Maybe Chantik can answer this one: I am moving into a small serviced apartment in a day near a major shopping center.

What's the situation like when I bring a gal home from one of the clubs? How will this be different compared to bringing them to my hotel?

My apt. Is tiny so will that be a negative?

I had an Indonesian girl from Boracay tell me not to trust the Filippinas in Boracay as they were stealing from guys.

So now I'm afraid to bring anyone home since my new place won't have a safe.

(Though I've never had a girl try to steal from me in all my visits to HK.)

I just feel like I'll have to be more sure before I bring someone home for a night and I'm not a huge fan of Ming Court for a WG. For a DH on a Sunday, it might be okay for a few hours but not for an LT WG.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the delay.

Having some R and R in Thailand.

It can be trickier bringing a girl into a serviced apartment. You have to register and show your I'd. Actually this applies for anyone. Depends on security. It is sometimes tougher than a 5 star hotel.

Robbery. Is always a possibility. Commonsense. Don't carry much money in your wallet. Should never have more than 1 or 2K. Less what you give the girl unless it is a freebie.

Once you live in Hk and learn how it operates. You should be a getting a few freebies. If this is what you desire.

Had a Sunday morning rendezvous with dh I knew from the past. 500HKD to her, victoria hotel in wan chai 2 hours only 260HKD. That hotel is way better than ming court.

[QUOTE=Switched;1237175]Best site I found to book this hotel was from booking. Com. They give a 34% discount. I'm just hoping that the hotel reads the "Special requests" section and I end up with a double bed![/QUOTE]Oh and for anyone wondering, after booking this hotel from booking. Com, I received an email asking what type of bed I wanted and whether or not I wanted a smoking room.

Thanks for your help everyone.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1237175]Thanks Jack,

FYI. I've looked at lastminute. Whilst I can find this hotel, most days it appears sold out for me (I am hoping to visit in April). It appears that this is heavily booked on most of the hotel travel sites I know.

Looked at the prices to book this directly from the hotel website. Their rates are upwards from $1200 a night (see.

[url]http://www.jjhotel.com.hk/roomrate.htm[/url]

) anf they add a 10% service charge afterwards.

Best site I found to book this hotel was from booking. Com. They give a 34% discount. I'm just hoping that the hotel reads the "Special requests" section and I end up with a double bed![/QUOTE]Sorry. I gave you a bum steer as I used booking. Com for my next visit in March, not lastminute. Com as I said. It's all down to timing as to when you get the best deal but $1200 a night seems very expensive to me. Again, it also depends on what is going on in HK at the time you want to visit. I think that the hotel only has about 44 rooms so it is always going to be busy at these prices. Hope everything goes OK for you

[QUOTE=HK Punter;1237144]New Makati gets really going around 5pm on Sunday afternoons and it keeps going strong until 8pm. On Sundays, if I'm in town and feel like mongering, I will get there around 4pm while enjoying a couple of drinks and watching all the talent coming in. I enjoy feeling the atmosphere building up, slowly at first and increasingly rapidly later in the afternoon because for me the journey matters as much as the destination. Endless chances to get nice girls if you know how to play your hand and play it cool.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info on the Sunday scene. Do the domestic helpers in Hong Kong have a curfew like the ones do here in Singapore? Would be interested in all you care to tell about that particular scene. Beers on me when I finally get moved up there.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1237597]Thanks for the info on the Sunday scene. Do the domestic helpers in Hong Kong have a curfew like the ones do here in Singapore? Would be interested in all you care to tell about that particular scene. Beers on me when I finally get moved up there.[/QUOTE]Yes, they do have a curfew. Around 8-10:00PM, plus allowing time to commute back to their employers place. Need to seal the deal by 5-6PM

[QUOTE=HK Punter;1237144]New Makati gets really going around 5pm on Sunday afternoons and it keeps going strong until 8pm.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Makeupaname;1237847]Yes, they do have a curfew. Around 8-10:00PM, plus allowing time to commute back to their employers place. Need to seal the deal by 5-6PM[/QUOTE]Ok, I've heard elsewhere on this forum that New Makati gets going from 2pm. Is this correct?

A 1 hour window between 5 and 6pm is cutting it fine.

Also, is there anything to do around this time at New Makati while you are waiting for talent to turn up? I don't mind drinking a couple, but If I sit there and drink for 3 or 4 hours it will negatively affect my performance and defeat the purpose of being there in the first place!

I don't know the exact time, but yes the disco open up around 2-3:00PM on Sundays. However they don't start getting crowded until 4-5:00PM.

The timing you need depends on different variables. What time is her curfew? How far away does she live? How far is your hotel? Do you need 1 or 2 hours short time?

Early afternoon, you might try one of the normal bars with a view to the sidewalk to watch the girls walk by. Old China Hand bar has a good view of bar 109

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1237597]Thanks for the info on the Sunday scene. Do the domestic helpers in Hong Kong have a curfew like the ones do here in Singapore? Would be interested in all you care to tell about that particular scene. Beers on me when I finally get moved up there.[/QUOTE]Yes, the curfew is typically between 8pm and 10pm. There are exceptions though and I met a few D / H's over time who were allowed to go back home when they pleased and even some who were allowed to sleep out on weekends. Their employers tended to be from the US or Europe, much more relaxed than Chinese employers on average. Also note that some D / H's have got their free day on a different day than Sunday. I met several D / H's whose free day was Saturday and a couple whose free day was Monday. Very nice girls by the way. Actually, I met some of the girls I liked the most on Saturdays or over the week, but maybe it was just chance. Of course over the week, there are more working girls and the D / H's tend to be a minority.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1237871]Ok, I've heard elsewhere on this forum that New Makati gets going from 2pm. Is this correct?

A 1 hour window between 5 and 6pm is cutting it fine.

Also, is there anything to do around this time at New Makati while you are waiting for talent to turn up? I don't mind drinking a couple, but If I sit there and drink for 3 or 4 hours it will negatively affect my performance and defeat the purpose of being there in the first place![/QUOTE]Go to Old China Hand, Queen Victoria or if you want to be crazy Bar 109.

Thanks.

I'be been using Google Street view to get familiar with the area.

Is Queen Victoria on the same strip at Lochart Road?

Also, What bars are best on a Thursday / Friday Night? From reading these forums, I'm guesing the professional bars are better (on Luard Road) for those that wish to monger.

Spend a few days after Christmas in HK and enjoyed some action from pick ups of WGs in Wanchai.

I had two in particular. One was a Thai-Laos gal with great figure which came to my hotel for overnight action and We agreed HKD1500 for all-in. She did everything I wanted and was great service. She was a 7. 5 maybe and was 30+ but had nice tits and nice attitude which was better than a GREAT body and lousy attitude. It was a lucky strike.

Next night I took a Chinese gal from Neptune and enjoyed a great service from her as well. She was giving me GFE in taxi and as soon as we arrived inroom she stripped off and pulled me into shower snd gave me a "starter BBBJ".

Then bed and about two hours of great GFE with super DFK and nice sloppy BBBJ finishing in CIM. I would of kept her for more morning action but had breakfast meetig with new sales agent and needed to get sleep so sadly let her go about 5. 00am for three hours of sleeping alone. Pics attached to Photogallerie.

PE

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1237847]Yes, they do have a curfew. Around 8-10:00PM, plus allowing time to commute back to their employers place. Need to seal the deal by 5-6PM[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. Very much like Singapore then.

[QUOTE=HK Punter;1237896]Yes, the curfew is typically between 8pm and 10pm. There are exceptions though and I met a few D / H's over time who were allowed to go back home when they pleased and even some who were allowed to sleep out on weekends. Their employers tended to be from the US or Europe, much more relaxed than Chinese employers on average. Also note that some D / H's have got their free day on a different day than Sunday. I met several D / H's whose free day was Saturday and a couple whose free day was Monday. Very nice girls by the way. Actually, I met some of the girls I liked the most on Saturdays or over the week, but maybe it was just chance. Of course over the week, there are more working girls and the D / H's tend to be a minority.[/QUOTE]Cool. Thanks a lot for the info. One of my previous visits I ended up with two on separate occasions who stayed with me til just before dawn the next morning before they had to rush home to get to work. Sounds like the potential is still there then. .

Have you had much luck with the Indo girls at Victoria Park or at the Filipino-dominated mall World-wide House in Central?

Thanks again for the tips.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo; 1238330]Cool. Thanks a lot for the info. One of my previous visits I ended up with two on separate occasions who stayed with me til just before dawn the next morning before they had to rush home to get to work. Sounds like the potential is still there then. .

Have you had much luck with the Indo girls at Victoria Park or at the Filipino-dominated mall World-wide House in Central?

Thanks again for the tips.[/QUOTE]One of the best experiences of my life was when a few years ago, I took one Indonesian gal to breakfast, dropped her off at the MTR, and then wandered around Causeway Bay. Another Indonesian gal and her 2 friends smiled at me, I hopped on a bus to follow them and we started talking upstairs.

The one I fancied didn't pay much attention to me so I chatted up her friend. We exchanged numbers and that night we met at Laguna.

Don't go to Victoria Park on a Sunday to pick up. Or just be subtle about it. You have to be respectful of the fact that Sunday is the only day for many of these gals to socialize. So Sunday in Victoria Park is for some a religious service, an exchange of clothes or food, a chance to relax, a chance to chat, a chance to cook.

If you wander around on a Sunday morning, chances are some gal will say Hello, to you, maybe offer you in food in the park like when I was there.

But don't sweat the technique as they say. Be respectful and subtle.

You raised another interesting point. Unlike the Filipinos here, I've met many Indonesian gals who had jobs with regular hours (at nursing homes and that sort of thing). And there seems to be a large number of them here on long-term visas who do not have to live 24/7 with their employer family.

I've yet to meet a Filipino with that setup.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu; 1238559]One of the best experiences of my life was when a few years ago, I took one Indonesian gal to breakfast, dropped her off at the MTR, and then wandered around Causeway Bay. Another Indonesian gal and her 2 friends smiled at me, I hopped on a bus to follow them and we started talking upstairs.

The one I fancied didn't pay much attention to me so I chatted up her friend. We exchanged numbers and that night we met at Laguna.

Don't go to Victoria Park on a Sunday to pick up. Or just be subtle about it. You have to be respectful of the fact that Sunday is the only day for many of these gals to socialize. So Sunday in Victoria Park is for some a religious service, an exchange of clothes or food, a chance to relax, a chance to chat, a chance to cook.

If you wander around on a Sunday morning, chances are some gal will say Hello, to you, maybe offer you in food in the park like when I was there.

But don't sweat the technique as they say. Be respectful and subtle.

You raised another interesting point. Unlike the Filipinos here, I've met many Indonesian gals who had jobs with regular hours (at nursing homes and that sort of thing). And there seems to be a large number of them here on long-term visas who do not have to live 24/7 with their employer family.

I've yet to meet a Filipino with that setup.[/QUOTE]You are naive.

At least 80% of the Indo girls you see out night after night. Are Chicken Visa's. That is overstayed their visa.

Tough to work 10 to 12 hrs per day. And go out night after night.

Of course the girls tell you stories.

20% or less. Have long term visa's. That is the BF signed their domestic visa 0 Or shudder the girls pay sponsors HK 20-25K to sigb their helper's visa. And the odd one may be a permanent resident (been previously married) and a few cum on tourist visas.

And realise that any Indo / Filipina / Thai / Sri Lankan. Can only get a visa to be a helper. Anything other job is illegal. Maybe you are confusing HK with Macau. In Macau the girls can do any job.

Domestic's staying out was big in the late 1990'2 and early 2000's. Govt became stricter and it was rare in the mid and late 2000's. It is becming more popular again in the last 2 years. But it is mainly Filipina's who can organise a live out situation.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1237022]Saw 141, Mirako on 16F Kaisun Mansion Bldg. Row of girls working 16 FL.

Asked for 2 pops fpr 800HKD and she was ok with that. Stayed almost 2 hours there. Everything covered and COF was $200HKD extra LOL.

She was ok but will not repeat as Macau has better for less Viet girls IMHO.

PC out[/QUOTE]If everything was covered how did you COF? Did you yank the condom off just before? For me, I have to get right to the verge of coming before pulling out of her mouth to COF otherwise I will lose the moment while yanking off the condom or will start coming without enough time to yank off the condom. If you can hold it longer good for you.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1237518]Had a Sunday morning rendezvous with dh I knew from the past. 500HKD to her, victoria hotel in wan chai 2 hours only 260HKD. That hotel is way better than ming court.[/QUOTE]WAY better

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu; 1238559]One of the best experiences of my life was when a few years ago, I took one Indonesian gal to breakfast, dropped her off at the MTR, and then wandered around Causeway Bay. Another Indonesian gal and her 2 friends smiled at me, I hopped on a bus to follow them and we started talking upstairs.

The one I fancied didn't pay much attention to me so I chatted up her friend. We exchanged numbers and that night we met at Laguna.

Don't go to Victoria Park on a Sunday to pick up. Or just be subtle about it. You have to be respectful of the fact that Sunday is the only day for many of these gals to socialize. So Sunday in Victoria Park is for some a religious service, an exchange of clothes or food, a chance to relax, a chance to chat, a chance to cook.

If you wander around on a Sunday morning, chances are some gal will say Hello, to you, maybe offer you in food in the park like when I was there.

But don't sweat the technique as they say. Be respectful and subtle.

You raised another interesting point. Unlike the Filipinos here, I've met many Indonesian gals who had jobs with regular hours (at nursing homes and that sort of thing). And there seems to be a large number of them here on long-term visas who do not have to live 24/7 with their employer family.

I've yet to meet a Filipino with that setup.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input, mate, much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1238723]You are naive.

At least 80% of the Indo girls you see out night after night. Are Chicken Visa's. That is overstayed their visa.

Tough to work 10 to 12 hrs per day. And go out night after night.

Of course the girls tell you stories.

20% or less. Have long term visa's. That is the BF signed their domestic visa 0 Or shudder the girls pay sponsors HK 20-25K to sigb their helper's visa. And the odd one may be a permanent resident (been previously married) and a few cum on tourist visas.

And realise that any Indo / Filipina / Thai / Sri Lankan. Can only get a visa to be a helper. Anything other job is illegal. Maybe you are confusing HK with Macau. In Macau the girls can do any job.

Domestic's staying out was big in the late 1990'2 and early 2000's. Govt became stricter and it was rare in the mid and late 2000's. It is becming more popular again in the last 2 years. But it is mainly Filipina's who can organise a live out situation.[/QUOTE]Would love to know where Chantik is always pulling this figures from. Out of his ass, seems like. Time to put him on the ignore list, I suggest others do the same.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1238756]Would love to know where Chantik is always pulling this figures from. Out of his ass, seems like. Time to put him on the ignore list, I suggest others do the same.[/QUOTE]So Gajin based in Singapore is now the HK expert.

And I a HK resident - don't go onto the Singapore forum - mistakenly suggesting that I know it all.

But we are yet to see a report about Gajin's adventures in HK.

Maybe if you improved the breadth of your vocabulary - instead of using lazy verbs, adjectives, nouns etc - People may pay more attention to your posts.

Waylotzu is calling it from his experience. I am pointing out that the girls DH/WL tell many fibs. Escape and Makati is full of Indonesians at night. Ask them what they do for a job. Most will say they have a day job. That is because they don't feel comfortable telling a guy they are a full time W / L. It's a case of a girl ' saving face '.

And the D / H always tell their friends that the guys paid them 2K. It makes me laugh.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1238724]If everything was covered how did you COF? Did you yank the condom off just before? For me, I have to get right to the verge of coming before pulling out of her mouth to COF otherwise I will lose the moment while yanking off the condom or will start coming without enough time to yank off the condom. If you can hold it longer good for you.[/QUOTE]JR, I said she wanted $200 extra for COF. I didn't partake. She was fun but room was smokey and very small.

PC out

Hi guys.

2 nights ago, strange meeting of very nice 20 black girl from ethiopye,

Very very nice,

Some drinks and then she say to me that want fuck me for free.

We take another drink, but frankly speaking I was afraid of that.

I am a young handsome guy, but so strange no money.

So I talk to her and I say that I am to tired and go home alone.

What do you think about?

Free girl in neptune II during night?

No dh.

Thanks,

Xmen6900

[QUOTE=Xmen6900; 1239490]Hi guys.

2 nights ago, strange meeting of very nice 20 black girl from ethiopye,

Very very nice,

Some drinks and then she say to me that want fuck me for free.

We take another drink, but frankly speaking I was afraid of that.

I am a young handsome guy, but so strange no money.

So I talk to her and I say that I am to tired and go home alone.

What do you think about?

Free girl in neptune II during night?

No dh.

Thanks,

Xmen6900[/QUOTE]Ok handsome guy LOL. She would of robbed you in the end, probably HIV LOL.

[QUOTE=Xmen6900; 1239490]Hi guys.

2 nights ago, strange meeting of very nice 20 black girl from ethiopye,

Very very nice,

Some drinks and then she say to me that want fuck me for free.

We take another drink, but frankly speaking I was afraid of that.

I am a young handsome guy, but so strange no money.

So I talk to her and I say that I am to tired and go home alone.

What do you think about?

Free girl in neptune II during night?

No dh.

Thanks,

Xmen6900[/QUOTE]Possibly (likely) stealing your money and some other stuff while you sleep. It happened before. Beware of offers that are too good to be true.

Hello all,

So after a long night of pub crawling in LKF a couple of my buddies and I ended up in Wan Chai. I'll have to admit, the quality of girls come crashing down the later it gets. Its been 18 months since I was last in Amazons and Neptunes and the quality of girls just aren't the same. Getting tired of the clubs I walked outside for a smoke and was happily bumped into by a few Russian (eastern european) girls. Chatted up a little bit, they said they were going out for a few drinks. I invited them into Amazons but they smartly declined and said they would see me around in the other bars.

So my question, where do the Russian girls hang out at? My buddies who are local to HK tell me the clubs where the Russian girls frequent are a little rough. Meaning high pressure sales and they get pissed if you don't take out. Can anyone confirm?

Thanks in advance. 3 more days in HK, hoping the wallet holds up.

[QUOTE=Xmen6900; 1239490]Hi guys.

2 nights ago, strange meeting of very nice 20 black girl from ethiopye,

Very very nice,

Some drinks and then she say to me that want fuck me for free.

We take another drink, but frankly speaking I was afraid of that.

I am a young handsome guy, but so strange no money.

So I talk to her and I say that I am to tired and go home alone.

What do you think about?

Free girl in neptune II during night?

No dh.

Thanks,

Xmen6900[/QUOTE]Well, you will never know now. Maybe she fancied you. (You are a handsome guy, and probably modest as well). You bought here few drinks. Maybe she was happy with her commission. She might well have had a ST customer before you and did not need the money. You said you were tired. Maybe she spiked your drink? Who knows. I would have taken the chance but made sure she had no opportunity to take anything at your place. I would have got her to leave before you fell asleep in bed. Unlikely she was working as a DH but again, you never really know. Just my opinion. Maybe Chantik could have a guess?

I've done a bit of searching, but nothing comes up regarding GF Hotels.

Are they all generally GF which explains the lack of comment in this area?

Hoping somebody can expand on this before I book 8 nights.

Many thanks

[QUOTE=Balmoral; 1239899]I've done a bit of searching, but nothing comes up regarding GF Hotels.

Are they all generally GF which explains the lack of comment in this area?

Hoping somebody can expand on this before I book 8 nights.

Many thanks[/QUOTE]Balmoral,

This subject never come up because there is never a issue or Problem most HK hotel are GF, I never have any problem bring girl back to my room 3 star. 5 star hotel but good luck booking have you check out the price of hotel lately.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Big Sabbal; 1237166]Hey these are Pussy money Banks.

My HK$ 500 had gone for an actor. She was tall told me she's Chinese but I cannot make out Chinese or viet. Any way these are all Pussy money Banks. But they have a que to get in.[/QUOTE]Big Sabbal,

I've only been mongering since coming to China in June 2011. I live in Guangzhou so HK is close by and I occasionally drop in for a weekend. In Guangzhou I frequent the bars but in HK I've only done the walks ups. I've visited 3 girls in all over 5 visits. The only girl who wasn't great. Although she looked nice was a girl on the island. She was OK but compared to the other two great girls in Kowloon, both of who do anal for me.

The experiences especially with my first walk up was very intense sex and highly erotic. Lots of sweat and passion.

I've seen her again but no anal on the 2nd visit as she says I'm to big for her but always COF. I've seen another girl who gives me anal but I add an extra $50 for her. I treat these girls nicely, have fun and relax.

Sad to hear your walk experience wasn't good.

Next for me in HK is the bar scene but I don't trust the girls. Also, I'm picky, I think filipinos and indonesians are highly unattractive and not to be trusted. Hopefully I'll see a Viet girl. Where are the Viet girls in HK bars?

[QUOTE=Balmoral; 1239899]I've done a bit of searching, but nothing comes up regarding GF Hotels.

Are they all generally GF which explains the lack of comment in this area?

Hoping somebody can expand on this before I book 8 nights.

Many thanks[/QUOTE]I have stayed in many hotels in HK and never ever had a problem bringing a girl back, day or night.

Take it that they are all GF. The more stars, the more GF.

All the ones around Wan Chai. Metropoloitan, Empire, Metropark, Charterhouse, Cosmopolitan, Cosmo, Pacific, JJ Hotel etc etc do not have a problem. Same goes for those over in Kowloon.

Remember to report back! The JJ is only a 5 minute walk from the action and does not even have a reception on the ground floor entrance where the elevators take you straight to your floor.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1239856]Well, you will never know now. Maybe she fancied you. (You are a handsome guy, and probably modest as well). You bought here few drinks. Maybe she was happy with her commission. She might well have had a ST customer before you and did not need the money. You said you were tired. Maybe she spiked your drink? Who knows. I would have taken the chance but made sure she had no opportunity to take anything at your place. I would have got her to leave before you fell asleep in bed. Unlikely she was working as a DH but again, you never really know. Just my opinion. Maybe Chantik could have a guess?[/QUOTE]Unless the rules have changed no African woman can work as domestic helpers. Then again Gajin will have the definative answer.

[QUOTE=Balmoral; 1239899]I've done a bit of searching, but nothing comes up regarding GF Hotels.

Are they all generally GF which explains the lack of comment in this area?

Hoping somebody can expand on this before I book 8 nights.

Many thanks[/QUOTE]It depends on how you meet the women. If you invite a woman to your hotel. 5 star hotel. Make sure that you give the lady all details. And make sure that you realise there are key cards needed for lift access at most 5 star hotels after 9pm.

Otherwise you should have no problems.

[QUOTE=Gun Runner; 1239694]Hello, all,

So after a long night of pub crawling in LKF a couple of my buddies and I ended up in Wan Chai. I'll have to admit, the quality of girls come crashing down the later it gets. Its been 18 months since I was last in Amazons and Neptunes and the quality of girls just aren't the same. Getting tired of the clubs I walked outside for a smoke and was happily bumped into by a few Russian (eastern european) girls. Chatted up a little bit, they said they were going out for a few drinks. I invited them into Amazons but they smartly declined and said they would see me around in the other bars.

So my question, where do the Russian girls hang out at? My buddies who are local to HK tell me the clubs where the Russian girls frequent are a little rough. Meaning high pressure sales and they get pissed if you don't take out. Can anyone confirm?

Thanks in advance. 3 more days in HK, hoping the wallet holds up.[/QUOTE]Never gets huge numbers of Russian girls in HK. Cause of difficulty in getting a visa. One or two advertise on escort websites. But are not always in HK. And are EXPENSIVE.

Macau has many Russian girls. This is the place.

Possibly you met girls from the nearby ex Russian republics.

Of course if you go to Pattaya or Phuket in Thailand they are taking over the city.

Folks,

I am visiting next month. Though I have visited HK earlier about 10 years back never tried any escort services. Can some one help in answering following questions:

A) Is Bangkok better and worth the money as compared to HKK?

B) Should I prefer an agency or an indepedent escorts? Any recommendation?

C) How much should I expect to pay for a good looking escort? Hourly and for overnight.

Thanks for your help.

Prans

Went out last night and LKF and Wan Chai were a lot slower than normal. A couple of the clubs in LKF were advertising parties tongiht starting at 11pm. For the locals, is CNY Eve usually a good night to go out and party? Will the bars / clubs be any good?

@Balmoral. I stayed at two HK hotels in November, one being the Charterhouse (CWB) and the second being the Oriental (PE / MK) both places girls had no problem entering and coming up to the room. Just remember to give your room number to her when you book the appointment
Happy Hunting.

Skeet

Acknowledging the response and the positive vibes of Jackthelad2, Chantik, Skeetm & FastEddie2.

Many thanks, I have booked taking in regard your advice.

Will keep the forum advised of a New Boy in town in this part of Asia.

Balmoral

[QUOTE=Gun Runner;1240165]Went out last night and LKF and Wan Chai were a lot slower than normal. A couple of the clubs in LKF were advertising parties tonigiht starting at 11pm. For the locals, is CNY Eve usually a good night to go out and party? Will the bars / clubs be any good?[/QUOTE]You appear to be inexperienced.

The two quitest nights in LKF and Wanchai are Sunday and Monday night.

Wanchai would have been rocking on Sunday afternoon.

And will be busy the next three afternoons. Lots of D / H will be out and about.

In terms of locals - Sunday night and Monday are the two days they are with family.

Balmoral.

Thailand is still better value for escorts-W / L's than Hong Kong.

Independent escorts vs Agencies.

Independents tend be a bit cheaper than Agencies. Bait and Switch sometimes occurs with agencies. And English can be limited.

Prices.

Independents. 1000-1500 = 1hr, overnight (12 hours) is be / w 3000 to 5000.

Agencies are a touch more expensive.

Grabbing a girl from a bar can vary be / w 1000 to 2000 S / T. Long time can be negotiated at a similar price. If you are good at negotiating. But beware girls making a long time a short time.

Check out websites such as adultwork, sexy excortads, vicesisters etc.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1240464]You appear to be inexperienced.

The two quitest nights in LKF and Wanchai are Sunday and Monday night.

Wanchai would have been rocking on Sunday afternoon.

And will be busy the next three afternoons. Lots of D / H will be out and about.

In terms of locals. Sunday night and Monday are the two days they are with family.[/QUOTE]Thanks for stating the obvious. LOL. I think I have "tourist" stamped on my forehead.

Thanks for the information. I'm hoping to get out tomorrow afternoon before my midnight flight.

Met a DH through a dating website. She was the best GFE possible.

Face 8/10.

Body 8/10 (Slightly on the Bigger Side. I like bigger)

Attitude. 10/10

No money exchange.

Met in TST she came along with a friend had lunch together and then roamed around Avenue of Stars. Then went to the bus stop to send her friend to her home. Took a ferry to Central checked in the Eden hotel. Had the best fuck of my life. 4 POPs in 3 hours, she did BBBJ, COF and DFK. No ass fuck though. She did not ask any money. She has asked me to take her to ocean park tomorrow, hopefully other session tomorrow. Total Damage 350 for lunch 420 for the room.

Dude you need to come to the Jordan Mtr station and take exit a. This one is near to kpressure and charges 200 hkd I tried it last in March 2011. I do not know about current situation.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1240589]Hi guys,

Been trying to find a post from someone a few months ago and wondering if someone can help me out.

They were describing a 141 hotel whereby you get off at a floor and knock at all the doors and the ladies open up and you choose your girl.

Can anyone advise where this is, do you need a booking (or just rock up?) and how much this service is?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Switched; 1240589]Hi guys,

Been trying to find a post from someone a few months ago and wondering if someone can help me out.

They were describing a 141 hotel whereby you get off at a floor and knock at all the doors and the ladies open up and you choose your girl.

Can anyone advise where this is, do you need a booking (or just rock up?) and how much this service is?

Thanks[/QUOTE]There's a lot of inormation in this forum about the 141 options. Just look around a bit. I'm planning a trip a few months from now and read a lot of good information on here.

You should also do a search (on your favorite search engine) for "Hong Kong 141". It usually turns up in the first few links. This will bring up a page that shows the available girls. Just click on the pictures and you'll get more information about the girl. There are different 141 options. Some are walk-ups, some you make an appointment. On some pages they will show the address, and even pictures of the building and entrances. Some you have to call and they will tell you where to go. There is also a forum on that website which will be helpful.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1240466]Balmoral.

Thailand is still better value for escorts-W / L's than Hong Kong.

Independent escorts vs Agencies.

Independents tend be a bit cheaper than Agencies. Bait and Switch sometimes occurs with agencies. And English can be limited.

Prices.

Independents. 1000-1500 = 1hr, overnight (12 hours) is be / w 3000 to 5000.

Agencies are a touch more expensive.

Grabbing a girl from a bar can vary be / w 1000 to 2000 S / T. Long time can be negotiated at a similar price. If you are good at negotiating. But beware girls making a long time a short time.

Check out websites such as adultwork, sexy excortads, vicesisters etc.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Will share my experience after my visit.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1240589]Hi guys,

Been trying to find a post from someone a few months ago and wondering if someone can help me out.

They were describing a 141 hotel whereby you get off at a floor and knock at all the doors and the ladies open up and you choose your girl.

Can anyone advise where this is, do you need a booking (or just rock up?) and how much this service is?

Thanks[/QUOTE]These places are all over HK. Easily found by looking in the website sex one four one dot com. (Use numbers, run it together and figure it out). All the areas and addresses are listed and they have been widely reported on in the past. Prices and services are shown. No need to book in advance but with many of the girls changing almost daily, you don't always get what is advertised when you go to their door.

Remember to report back.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1240828]These places are all over HK. Easily found by looking in the website sex one four one dot com. (Use numbers, run it together and figure it out). All the areas and addresses are listed and they have been widely reported on in the past. Prices and services are shown. No need to book in advance but with many of the girls changing almost daily, you don't always get what is advertised when you go to their door.

Remember to report back.[/QUOTE]A favorite spot of mine is Champagne Court at 16 Kimberly Road right next to the upscale overpriced Mira Hotel. Take the elevators to the top floor and have fun looking for a girl. Walk around, don't be shy, ring some doorbells and go down floor by floor until you see somebody you like. Of course the best looking girls on 141 are hotel reservaton girls in the 700hk and up price point. You get what you pay for comes to mind, still some attractive girls and good times can be found with the apt walkup, plus there is the thrill of the hunt.
Perform an advanced search on Champagne Court and I am sure you will turn up a few interesting reports.

[QUOTE=Gun Runner; 1240468]Thanks for stating the obvious. LOL. I think I have "tourist" stamped on my forehead.

Thanks for the information. I'm hoping to get out tomorrow afternoon before my midnight flight.[/QUOTE]Hope you got lucky!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1240115]It depends on how you meet the women. If you invite a woman to your hotel. 5 star hotel. Make sure that you give the lady all details. And make sure that you realise there are key cards needed for lift access at most 5 star hotels after 9pm.

Otherwise you should have no problems.[/QUOTE]To Chantik,

Many rich Hong konger book a 5 star hotel room for a afternoon session with mistress or secetary, I know some time they call the bell boy have them bring the girl up if key card is needed for elevator so they don't run into people they know, most hotel in HK don't care if you bring girl back to your hotel except some cheap low end hostel I see sign said no hooker allow in Chinese.

Fast Eddie 48

Got to Hong kong yesterday weary but decided to try the fuji building for a first time visit to a 141.

Went to the 2nd floor and saw a few doors with names / cartoons / hearts / kisses and fairy lights so I knew I was in the right place. I just stood outside one and the door opened, it was a young short girl with a nice rack (thought it may be a push up bra) in a mini skirt.

She said Hi, do you want to come in, as I walked in she said 500

Inside clothes off it was not a push up bra nice round tits and both into the shower, just a clean up no more given

Onto the bed she starts a cat bath usual moaning, but not too much she grabs a condom and put it on me with her mouth as I fondle her tits, I pull her arse round to me and take a suck of her long pussy lips through her whispy hair,

This carries on for a while till I pop, (I said I was weary!)

Then she flips me over for a very hard massage, and by this time I'm thinking I've had enough (and she even talks to someone on the phone, not a turn on!) , jet lag etc anyway she turns me over and asks if I want more I had had enough and I decide 500 for a BJ when tired is something I could live with, so cleaned up and left.

Face 7/10 nice doe eyes.

Tits 9/10 nice and round.

Pussy 7/10 nice flaps.

GFE 4/10 did the right things at the right time but no more.

Return visit, unlikely her but now know how easy the 141 places are may use for another quick BJ etc

Another filipina dh just left my apartment, after spending 2 nights at my place (Chinese new year holiday).3 days / 2 nights was around 500 HKD in shopping gifts for her, I normal eat out but she cooked most of the time (saved me money) and at the end I gave her a red envelope with 500 HKD, she cried saying I was too nice to her.

Meeting HK filipina DHs.

When you see a sexy filipina, just say Hello, happy new year year, how are you, etc. Basic conversation starters. HK local discriminate against filipinos so she will be happy you talked to her. When around the girl and other filipinas, be respectful and polite. Make jokes, buy simple meals / drinks for her and her friends (McDonald, jolliebees) , you are giving her face. Hold her hand, hug her, be "sweet". In her mind this is the first date.

From very start make it clear your not looking for a wife, so it gets that fantasy out of their head. The second date starts as soon as you can separate her from her friends. Invite her to your hotel / apartment. If she says yes. 99% of the time it means sex

Two great reports from makeup and royal. The Filipinas in HK are an absolute gold mine. They are treated so badly by their employers that just a little respect and a couple of drinks or small presents and they are yours. I finally got one into bed that I had been talking to and having the odd dance with over a few months. I thought she was a bit tight and hard to get into but once there she was as wet as a wet thing. Only after did I see quite a lot of blood, turns out she was virgin, I didn't see that coming! I've seen her a few times since and she is now an enthusiastic learner and able to take a good pounding.

Don't know how many freebies I've had over the years here but they are well worth the effort.

The latest one is in danger of becoming bit of a clingon but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it, as my first virgin I'll keep hold of her for a while yet until too many relatives get ill and need money.

Happy hunting to all in the year of the Dragon!

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1241038]To Chantik,

Many rich Hong konger book a 5 star hotel room for a afternoon session with mistress or secetary, I know some time they call the bell boy have them bring the girl up if key card is needed for elevator so they don't run into people they know, most hotel in HK don't care if you bring girl back to your hotel except some cheap low end hostel I see sign said no hooker allow in Chinese.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Eddie.

I did say after 9pm.

And a WL or in fact any person. Can't go up without key card access to the lift.

Currently holidaying in Thailand. Went to visit a friend (girl) in a resort. And I was not allowed up. My friend had to pick me up.

Don't meet any Rich Hong Kongese. Not my target group. Though met a few wealthy USA businessman.

[QUOTE=Joe Banana; 1241179]Two great reports from makeup and royal. The Filipinas in HK are an absolute gold mine. They are treated so badly by their employers that just a little respect and a couple of drinks or small presents and they are yours. I finally got one into bed that I had been talking to and having the odd dance with over a few months. I thought she was a bit tight and hard to get into but once there she was as wet as a wet thing. Only after did I see quite a lot of blood, turns out she was virgin, I didn't see that coming! I've seen her a few times since and she is now an enthusiastic learner and able to take a good pounding.

Don't know how many freebies I've had over the years here but they are well worth the effort.

The latest one is in danger of becoming bit of a clingon but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it, as my first virgin I'll keep hold of her for a while yet until too many relatives get ill and need money.

Happy hunting to all in the year of the Dragon![/QUOTE]Second last paragraph so true.

Indo's and Filipinas have big families. And the relatives are always having accidents. !

[QUOTE=Joe Banana; 1241179]Two great reports from makeup and royal. The Filipinas in HK are an absolute gold mine. They are treated so badly by their employers that just a little respect and a couple of drinks or small presents and they are yours. I finally got one into bed that I had been talking to and having the odd dance with over a few months. I thought she was a bit tight and hard to get into but once there she was as wet as a wet thing. Only after did I see quite a lot of blood, turns out she was virgin, I didn't see that coming! I've seen her a few times since and she is now an enthusiastic learner and able to take a good pounding.

Don't know how many freebies I've had over the years here but they are well worth the effort.

The latest one is in danger of becoming bit of a clingon but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it, as my first virgin I'll keep hold of her for a while yet until too many relatives get ill and need money.

Happy hunting to all in the year of the Dragon![/QUOTE]Nice report, thanks for the input! Sounds like the scene there is very much like here in Singapore. Can't wait to get there. I presume you're meeting these chicks in the Sunday afternoon tea dances in Wanchai? Any other venues to recommend?

[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1241150]Another filipina dh just left my apartment, after spending 2 nights at my place (Chinese new year holiday).3 days / 2 nights was around 500 HKD in shopping gifts for her, I normal eat out but she cooked most of the time (saved me money) and at the end I gave her a red envelope with 500 HKD, she cried saying I was too nice to her.

Meeting HK filipina DHs.

When you see a sexy filipina, just say Hello, happy new year year, how are you, etc. Basic conversation starters. HK local discriminate against filipinos so she will be happy you talked to her. When around the girl and other filipinas, be respectful and polite. Make jokes, buy simple meals / drinks for her and her friends (McDonald, jolliebees) , you are giving her face. Hold her hand, hug her, be "sweet". In her mind this is the first date.

From very start make it clear your not looking for a wife, so it gets that fantasy out of their head. The second date starts as soon as you can separate her from her friends. Invite her to your hotel / apartment. If she says yes. 99% of the time it means sex[/QUOTE]Excellent report and excellent advice, especially on managing their expectations. Something a lot of guys tend to forget to do.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1241303]Nice report, thanks for the input! Sounds like the scene there is very much like here in Singapore. Can't wait to get there. I presume you're meeting these chicks in the Sunday afternoon tea dances in Wanchai? Any other venues to recommend?[/QUOTE]Actually I met this girl waiting in line to order a slice of pizza. Treated her and her friend. 3 slices of pizza was 100HKD. Little chit chat, used a corny saying that always gets a laugh from filipinas regarding my status "I've never been touched, but totally damaged" not sure why its funny, but sometimes they even finish the saying. Mentioned I was not looking for a wife. Exchanged numbers and facebook. The next time I saw her is when I picked her up to come to my place.

World wide plaza above the central MTR station is always packed with filipinas.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1241393]Actually I met this girl waiting in line to order a slice of pizza. Treated her and her friend. 3 slices of pizza was 100HKD. Little chit chat, used a corny saying that always gets a laugh from filipinas regarding my status "I've never been touched, but totally damaged" not sure why its funny, but sometimes they even finish the saying. Mentioned I was not looking for a wife. Exchanged numbers and facebook. The next time I saw her is when I picked her up to come to my place.

World wide plaza above the central MTR station is always packed with filipinas.[/QUOTE]Hong Kong. Where amazing happens! Brilliant stuff. I once found a new Indo shag while I was waiting on a kebab at a place opposite what used to be Laguna Disco. She had missed the last train back to Lantau. Asked her if she wanted to go to my hotel and 'watch tv' with me and well, you know what happened after that. After we did the deed, I put her in a taxi and sent her home. I was still hungry so I went back to the same area for more food and damned if I didn't end up with another Indo for the rest of the night! Fed this one some pizza (possibly from the same place where you scored? LOL) and she stayed with me til the trains started running again. That was one of the more epic nights of my life and I really wasn't even looking for something to happen.

Man, I can't wait to get moved up there. Thanks for the advice on World wide plaza too.

A guy I know even married a Filipina he met in the Deli France of WW Plaza!

Another swears by picking up girls on DBay ferry. Just be on alert at all times to a possible shag or as we called it years ago as students the TUF, totally unexpected fuck.

My favourite line from a freebie after less than 10 minutes of chat was,"we have to go fuck now, my curfew is 830pm". It saved me having to ask.

Currently more DHs around during the week as with CNY their employers are away from HK.

Hi Friends, I think there is some rule against posting actually website names? I. E. 141. Com? Some of the older posts show ". Com" Can someone please PM me some of the popular sites? All I know is 141 and 161. I remember back in 2008 there was some site where I could search what services was offered. Now all I can search by is location? Any insight?

Pity that there has never been a kebab place opposite the old Laguna.

There was an Italian Restaurant, a Japanese restaurant and now a fusion Korean / Japanese restaurant.

And on the corner nearly opposite has been pacific Coffee for many years.

[QUOTE=Joe Banana; 1241179].

The latest one is in danger of becoming bit of a clingon but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it, as my first virgin I'll keep hold of her for a while yet until too many relatives get ill and need money.[/QUOTE]Great report! Unfortunately your paragraph about the relatives is right on target.

I've met numerous expat Filipinos through the years, in Hong Kong, Indonesia and in the USA, who were working girls, DHs, and professional co-workers, and every single one of them without fail has had at least one elderly relative back home who's needed eye surgery and who needed money to pay for it. Is there something in the Filipino water or diet that causes this?

The Filipino relatives back home have mastered the laying-on of a guilt trip onto the expat Filipinos, asking to pay school fees for assorted nieces, nephews, second cousins, third cousins, etc and other assorted expenses, to the point that some expat Filipinos don't even bother to go back home, as the ceaseless demands for money would bankrupt them. I work with one colleague from the Philippines who hasn't been home in 8 years, saying it's cheaper to just keep sending US $1,00 a month over there.

There was an interesting article about this topic in the International Herald Tribune in December 2005 that still is applicable today.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1241578]Great report! Unfortunately your paragraph about the relatives is right on target.

I've met numerous expat Filipinos through the years, in Hong Kong, Indonesia and in the USA, who were working girls, DHs, and professional co-workers, and every single one of them without fail has had at least one elderly relative back home who's needed eye surgery and who needed money to pay for it. Is there something in the Filipino water or diet that causes this?

The Filipino relatives back home have mastered the laying-on of a guilt trip onto the expat Filipinos, asking to pay school fees for assorted nieces, nephews, second cousins, third cousins, etc and other assorted expenses, to the point that some expat Filipinos don't even bother to go back home, as the ceaseless demands for money would bankrupt them. I work with one colleague from the Philippines who hasn't been home in 8 years, saying it's cheaper to just keep sending US $1, 00 a month over there.

There was an interesting article about this topic in the International Herald Tribune in December 2005 that still is applicable today.[/QUOTE]They have developed 'spousal extortion' into an art form. I still have a bloody jeepney I bought for my ex's family running around with my name on it. Actually, more like two after the endless requests to replace tyres, lights body panels and of course a new paint job.

[QUOTE=Kiwistickman;1241616]They have developed 'spousal extortion' into an art form. I still have a bloody jeepney I bought for my ex's family running around with my name on it. Actually, more like two after the endless requests to replace tyres, lights body panels and of course a new paint job.[/QUOTE]One of the problems is that IF you buy your RELATIVES a car. They don't have money to pay for repairs / maintenance and sometimes GAS.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1241864]One of the problems is that IF you buy your RELATIVES a car. They don't have money to pay for repairs / maintenance and sometimes GAS.[/QUOTE]Quite right, only this jeepney was supposed to make money.

[QUOTE=Kiwistickman;1241993]Quite right, only this jeepney was supposed to make money.[/QUOTE]But this is the less developed part of ASIA. And somehow the car was a lemon. Always having problems.

You need to be careful when sending home money because your FAMILY will rob you. Trust me!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1242103]But this is the less developed part of ASIA. And somehow the car was a lemon. Always having problems.

You need to be careful when sending home money because your FAMILY will rob you. Trust me![/QUOTE]100% In my naivety I wanted to give a hand up not a handout. Live and learn.

All in the past now and I sure as hell won't be thinking about the past when I pass.

Through Hong Kong next month and I am trolling around the traps.

[quote=jackthelad2; 1241911]here we go again!

Seconds out!

Round 2![/quote]ding! Ding! Ding!

Hi All

Just came back from a trip to HK. Checked out Wan Chai and ended up getting quite hammered which of course isn't the best idea. Got talking to this African woman in Neptune, said 2000 HK said no way, agreed on 1300 HK for 2 pops, maybe still a bit over the odds, but I was getting a good vibe (maybe the alcohol) so on the way back we stopped off at her place nearby, or rather her friend's place, who seemed to be ok girls, they offered me a drink which I accepted (presealed beer or else I wouldn't have).

After some small talk we ended up at mine, started getting down to it, really big tits which I like and big ass which I don't mind. It was getting semi GFE then she was givin me a BJ, and she tried to rush it into FS, I said wait a minute keep sucking. She freaked out and said whats wrong with you! Why you don't want to Fuck! After that the mood was ruined so told her to get dressed.

She started demanding the full amount, I said no way offered 500 to get rid of her. She wouldn't go so after explaining that she wasn't getting the full amount for a less than average BJ, she was still screaming you no pay me! She postured again for a bit then finally I said right last chance! You either take this now and go or I call the authorities and have you sent back to Africa!

After some more posturing she squeezed past me and I gave her the money outside the door. I'm staying away from the African ladies in future. That's twice I've had bad experiences with them! Your experiences gentlemen?

Hey fellowmongers,

A first timer to Hong Kong in about a week, can you recommend any venues in the Victoria Harbour Area.

Staying at the hotel above the feryy terminal.

Any hints appreciated,

Cheers.

Svenne

Hey fellow mongers,

First time to Hong Kongn about a week, andlookingfor any action in the Victoria Harbour Area.

Can you recommend any venues close by, staying at the hotel above the ferry terminal.

Cheers mates,

Svenne

Hi.

Continuing with my last week indonesian catch. I had nice session in the morning. No holes barred. She is really a fucking machine. She had to go some where bade her a good bye as My wife is coming back to hk and she is getting married to an "Gwailo" from USA. I will miss her a lot. She was gone I tried my luck with a Filipina on a socialnetworkibg site and met her. Had nice session till 6:30. I am tired for now but will go out in the late night lets see if I am in mood that time. I have checked in to hotel in Wanchai for these session this Sunday. Pictures for indo dh I will upload in the gallery but unfortunately no pic for Filipina babe. Surprising after coming to my room she was saying I do not like sex but after some minutes of fondling she showed why Filipinas are called LBFM.

Most of seniors here reported that the Cover Charges are not imposed, but I was asked for 500 HKD as cover charge and for that they were not giving me HKD 500 worth credit, just one drink, this is so fucking costly. Is it be'because I am an Indian (Brown Skin) or is it because this is a norm on Sunday evenings? Any inputs would be welcome.

Enough has been written about this Pilgrimage of Sex in HK, Temple street is where you need to visit when you are looking for quick fun at a low cost. You should leave the main street and walk along the shops on both the corners of the street. You need to be vigilant about old ladies (Mamasan) sitting out side the buildings on a stool. Keep a nice eye contact with her, she would ask with those eyes you just node and voila! You have set the deal She would take you upstairs and you have a selection of mostly thai girls (sometimes you may be unlucky and find only one on the menu). It would be a fixed amount 120 $ HK and you can have no frills sex, most of the girls would wash your johny before giving you a CBJ (very rare that you get a BBJ). And a fuck session which you can call Wham Bam Thankyou Mam. My two pennies, kiss the girl engage in some foreplay and you would get a better service. For more details you could PM me more than happy to help. Your Indian guide in Hong Kong.

SOoooo. Anybody score a hot date at the Sunday afternoon D / H show today? Pray tell.

I'm visting HK next month for 4 nights and I've been diligently doing my research here, but still have a few specific questions. I've been to HK several times but always just for a night on the way to or from mainland China, and always with SO, so I haven't "played". This time it's just me, and I'm staying in HK the entire (brief) trip, so I'm excited to explore the P4P scene. My preference is forworking girl bars and outcall escorts vs. Massage parlours or 141-type establishments. My preference for companions is for Chinese and other north Asians vs. SE Asians, and from what I read it sounds like much (but not all) of the bar scene is SE Asians. To that end, are there any particular bars in Wanchai or elsewhere where I'm more likely to find Chinese girls? Or are they all pretty much mixed?

And can anyone recommend any reliable outcall agencies, or "dating" sites where it might be possible to pre-arrange a meeting from abroad? PM me please if you have any details.

Oh, and one logistical question.I'll be staying in Mongkok; can I assume that won't be a problem for girls from the Wanchai bars? It looks like the taxi ride is cheap, but I don't see many reports of fellows staying in Kowloon, at least not outside of TST. Hopefully no issue there, but I'd rather change my accommodation plans now than discover the ladies don't like to go that far!

Of course I will post trip reports; thanks in advance for the help and advice.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1242475]My preference is forworking girl bars and outcall escorts vs. Massage parlours or 141-type establishments. My preference for companions is for Chinese and other north Asians vs. SE Asians, and from what I read it sounds like much (but not all) of the bar scene is SE Asians. To that end, are there any particular bars in Wanchai or elsewhere where I'm more likely to find Chinese girls? Or are they all pretty much mixed?

I'll be staying in Mongkok; can I assume that won't be a problem for girls from the Wanchai bars? It looks like the taxi ride is cheap, but I don't see many reports of fellows staying in Kowloon, at least not outside of TST. Hopefully no issue there, but I'd rather change my accommodation plans now than discover the ladies don't like to go that far![/QUOTE]Wanchai bars are 99% SEA girls. I have never seen a PRC girl there. Hari's bar 2nd floor Holiday Inn on Nathan used to be great for very attractive Korean, Mongolian, and Thai girls, but it looked very sad my last two visits in 2011. Since you are staying in Mongkok, stop by Hari's for a beer around 10:30 and see if the top quality has returned. If not, get back in a taxi and head for Wanchai.

I do not recommend ruling out 141 Hotel Reservation girls if you are looking for pretty Chinese, Korean, or Japanese girls. The 141 site is a great source for this type of talent. Search the TST section of the website and filter for service 700hk to 900hk for quality PRC girls and above 1000hk for local, Korean and Japanese girls. I think you will find better quality, price and service than escort agencies. The girls stay in fairly decent 4* hotels.

If you do decide to check out Wanchai, you will find some hot Viets, Thai, Filipina, and Indo girls. The few times I have stayed in East TST, I took girls out of Neptune's 2, no problem. We made out in the taxi all the way back to my hotel. Lastly, there are some very good looking Chinese FL's hanging around the open spaces on Mody St in between the Intercontinental and Regal Hotel.

What else? You can try Noble Sauna in Peninsula Center & Kobe Sauna in the Regal Hotel off Mody. These two places are more upscale than Dundas 37 and other typical red light HKG massage joints, which is why I am suggesting them since you said you did not prefer massage parlors.

My last piece of advice to you is, unless your preferences are set in stone, go with the flow and check out the places everybody pretty much agrees are real good. When in Rome, do as the you know who do. There are great private clubs stocked with amazing Chinese girls, but unless you speak the lingo or have a friend to take you there, they are pretty much off limits to you. Hong Kong is a great town. There are lots of varied opportunities here. The message I am trying to convey is don't miss out on Wanchai bars or 141 reservation girls because of some preconceived ideas. If you can be flexible with your preferences, you will have a great time without lowering your standards.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1242526]Wanchai bars are 99% SEA girls. I have never seen a PRC girl there. Hari's bar 2nd floor Holiday Inn on Nathan used to be great for very attractive Korean, Mongolian, and Thai girls, but it looked very sad my last two visits in 2011. Since you are staying in Mongkok, stop by Hari's for a beer around 10:30 and see if the top quality has returned. If not, get back in a taxi and head for Wanchai.

I do not recommend ruling out 141 Hotel Reservation girls if you are looking for pretty Chinese, Korean, or Japanese girls. The 141 site is a great source for this type of talent. Search the TST section of the website and filter for service 700hk to 900hk for quality PRC girls and above 1000hk for local, Korean and Japanese girls. I think you will find better quality, price and service than escort agencies. The girls stay in fairly decent 4* hotels.

If you do decide to check out Wanchai, you will find some hot Viets, Thai, Filipina, and Indo girls. The few times I have stayed in East TST, I took girls out of Neptune's 2, no problem. We made out in the taxi all the way back to my hotel. Lastly, there are some very good looking Chinese FL's hanging around the open spaces on Mody St in between the Intercontinental and Regal Hotel.

What else? You can try Noble Sauna in Peninsula Center & Kobe Sauna in the Regal Hotel off Mody. These two places are more upscale than Dundas 37 and other typical red light HKG massage joints, which is why I am suggesting them since you said you did not prefer massage parlors.

My last piece of advice to you is, unless your preferences are set in stone, go with the flow and check out the places everybody pretty much agrees are real good. When in Rome, do as the you know who do. There are great private clubs stocked with amazing Chinese girls, but unless you speak the lingo or have a friend to take you there, they are pretty much off limits to you. Hong Kong is a great town. There are lots of varied opportunities here. The message I am trying to convey is don't miss out on Wanchai bars or 141 reservation girls because of some preconceived ideas. If you can be flexible with your preferences, you will have a great time without lowering your standards.[/QUOTE]Thanks Natty; I will check out Hari's, and I think there was another TST place mentioned here (Sticky Fingers maybe?). And I also have a mental note to walk down Mody Road to check on any street action.

And I will of course hit up Wanchai and sample the offerings; my preference is just that. A preference, not a requirement! I can usually find someone interesting in most WG bars I've visited in other cities.

Are there any real substantive differences between the Wanchai bars? Or are they all more or less the same?

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1242475]My preference is forworking girl bars and outcall escorts vs. Massage parlours or 141-type establishments. My preference for companions is for Chinese and other north Asians vs. SE Asians, and from what I read it sounds like much (but not all) of the bar scene is SE Asians. To that end, are there any particular bars in Wanchai or elsewhere where I'm more likely to find Chinese girls? Or are they all pretty much mixed?[/QUOTE]From my experience of frequenting Wan Chai bars, you are unlilely to meet Chinese WG's there. Some have actually told me they are banned in some of the bars. If this is a must for you, then I suggest you look at hotel reservation girls but get them to come to your hotel. I have reported on this in the past and it has never failed me because I make it clear to the pimp that usually answers the phone and with whom you make the arrangments, that if there is a switch I reserve the right to reject them. Unless of course she is "acceptable". Down side was they don't speak English. I have met some stunners however.

Absolutely no problem with the girls you bring back to Kowloon from Wanchai. A return taxi fare will resolve any potential problem in that area.

There are also some SW's in Mody Road that might be of interest to you and if you fancy some scrubbers then there is the Temple Street market, but you will need to speak some Chinese.

You could also try the hotel massage services that advertise on the internet, which I did on my last visit. A lovely Chinese girl started off by giving a massage that turned out to be a bit more and on her second visit the next day there was no mention of massage!

[QUOTE=Royalpardesi2001;1242417]Most of seniors here reported that the Cover Charges are not imposed, but I was asked for 500 HKD as cover charge and for that they were not giving me HKD 500 worth credit, just one drink, this is so fucking costly. Is it be'because I am an Indian (Brown Skin) or is it because this is a norm on Sunday evenings? Any inputs would be welcome.[/QUOTE]It is solely because you're Indian. Same is also often imposed on locals (non-western locals) and youngsters. WanChai bars business model is about catering to white guys and many of the bars impose cover charges for others. One can debate back and forth about the validity of this business model, and we can b_itch about it too, but it aint going to make any difference. It is what it is.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1242537]Thanks Natty; I will check out Hari's, and I think there was another TST place mentioned here (Sticky Fingers maybe?). And I also have a mental note to walk down Mody Road to check on any street action.

Are there any real substantive differences between the Wanchai bars? Or are they all more or less the same?[/QUOTE]I don't rate Hari's or Sticky Fingers but it is right beside the SW's in Mody Road.

Basically the Wan Chai bars are all the same. Try Neptune 11, Neptune 111, Escape, Borocay, New Makati.

Insider (the old Laguna) , Traffic and Forrest are there as well but IMHO not so good, but you never know. Amazonia might pay off as well. Joe Bananas has a few Thais.

Avoid the GoGo bars (the curtained doors on the main Lockhart Road) like the plague.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1242537]Are there any real substantive differences between the Wanchai bars? Or are they all more or less the same?[/QUOTE]I think the atmosphere and quality of the bars varies a lot. Over the years, my favorite Wanchai bar has consistently been Neptune's 2. A good mix of girls show up there. The sexiest appear to me to be Thai and Viets although there are plenty of Filipinas and Indonesian girls too. I like the lighting in this bar. You can see everything clearly. Some bars are a lot darker which I do not like. The music is not bad and not too loud permitting some conversation. Bottom line, I always seem to find what I am looking for here. That said, there is stiff competition in Wanchai. Other bars of note are Escape, Laguna, Neptune's 3, New Makati, Boracay, the bar above Joe Bananas, traffik I think, Typhoon, and more. I tend to get some of these bars mixed up, but never Escape (the former Fenwicks), and the Neptune bars.

Also as many have written, DH Sunday afternoon is another matter all together. Last time I was there on a Sunday I just followed some girls up a flight of stairs to, I think it was Traffik or maybe Forrest. I won't be sure on that until I get back to HKG to definitively make note. It was a pretty nice bar in any case.

BTW, I am going to be back in Wanchai in 6 short days to kick off my 2012 South East Asia winter trip. I am flying Continental 20 hours from West Palm Beach Airport, change planes in Newark and then on to HKG. I am going to arrive this Saturday at 8:30pm. My plan is to walk into Neptune's 2 a little after 10pm and have a sexy girl in my bed by 11:30. I am only going to spend 2 nights in Hong Kong on this leg of my trip before heading off to Macau, PI and Los, but I will return at the end of my trip in late March and spend my last 5 nights here. I have not packed my suitcase yet, but I can't wait.

[QUOTE=Henio;1242585]One can debate back and forth about the validity of this business model, and we can b_itch about it too, but it aint going to make any difference. It is what it is.[/QUOTE]Your comment is absolutely right, but $500 is a hefty cover charge. On a Sunday night as well when they are generally not so busy. They would not have got it off me.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1242596]Your comment is absolutely right, but $500 is a hefty cover charge. On a Sunday night as well when they are generally not so busy. They would not have got it off me.[/QUOTE]True. I have not heard of such high amount being asked before. Think it is usually something like 200 HKD. The door is blatantly obvious about the discrimination. Number of times I have walked passed guys in the doorway being charged for entry and I am waived right through in front of them.

To add: If you are speaking Enlish with an obvious American or English accent, you will probably not be asked for cover regardless of color and race.

[QUOTE=Henio; 1242612]True. I have not heard of such high amount being asked before. Think it is usually something like 200 HKD. The door is blatantly obvious about the discrimination. Number of times I have walked passed guys in the doorway being charged for entry and I am waived right through in front of them.

To add: If you are speaking Enlish with an obvious American or English accent, you will probably not be asked for cover regardless of color and race.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I think it is nearer $200. I don't approve either of the charge (and I am white) but not much you can do about it. Another way round it sometimes is to go in with a few white guys as if they were your buddies. When the Navy was in town last November, they all had to pay to get in and, as you say, others like me could walk straight through. One of the reasons I have heard is that there is a charge because they don't spend.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1242537]Thanks Natty; I will check out Hari's, and I think there was another TST place mentioned here (Sticky Fingers maybe?). And I also have a mental note to walk down Mody Road to check on any street action.

And I will of course hit up Wanchai and sample the offerings; my preference is just that. A preference, not a requirement! I can usually find someone interesting in most WG bars I've visited in other cities.

Are there any real substantive differences between the Wanchai bars? Or are they all more or less the same?[/QUOTE]I think you'd best keep your expectations low if you go to Hari's. While anything is possible, the likelihood of a gold nugget there seems pretty slim from what I saw in March and October there. But if you like older (in their 30's) WG's that might be your place. Not much to pick from, anyhow. Sticky Fingers will have Filipina's and some Thai's in it, but not really a lot. Best thing about it is the music, IMO. Lots of expats go just for the tunes, not mongering. On the other hand, since mostly nobody is buying, the girls that do show up won't get tagged quickly, so you have some time to decide. Hahaha.

I've walked around at night in TST and the SW's are not limited to Mody's though that may have a higher concentration. Nathan also has them out and about. I have not tasted from that font, myself.

Try your luck and post the results!

TT

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1242537]Thanks Natty; I will check out Hari's, and I think there was another TST place mentioned here (Sticky Fingers maybe?). And I also have a mental note to walk down Mody Road to check on any street action.

And I will of course hit up Wanchai and sample the offerings; my preference is just that. A preference, not a requirement! I can usually find someone interesting in most WG bars I've visited in other cities.

Are there any real substantive differences between the Wanchai bars? Or are they all more or less the same?[/QUOTE]I would avoid ladies on the streets at all costs. Don't go near them.

There are reason they are on the streets and not working in bars / karaokes. Big chance to get robbed.

Heard too many horror stories from my clients.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1242629]Yeah. I think it is nearer $200. I don't approve either of the charge (and I am white) but not much you can do about it. Another way round it sometimes is to go in with a few white guys as if they were your buddies. When the Navy was in town last November, they all had to pay to get in and, as you say, others like me could walk straight through. One of the reasons I have heard is that there is a charge because they don't spend.[/QUOTE]Jack.

You are right about them not spending.

And W / L's preference is to have the bars full of white guys.

And the point about Chinese women in Wanchai bars. Except for the odd Mongolian. It is simple they prefer to cater for the Asian Market.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1242588]Basically the Wan Chai bars are all the same.[/QUOTE]I would just add that many of the WL cruise the bars and alerted each other via text when a colleague has a whale. I would avoid those wolf packs and being the targeted whale.

Might suggested a cursory looksy at all the bars before settling down on one. My favorite was Laguna because all the DH / WL will eventually all walk by in a couple hours. I am partial to Forrest because they do not push drinks too aggressively.

[QUOTE=Kiwistickman;1242305]100% In my naivety I wanted to give a hand up not a handout. Live and learn.[/QUOTE]I am sure I am not the only one who has contributed to the purchase of bikes / trikes, the construction / modification of illegal structures and the construction of one legal structure somewhere in the Asian jungle. It is very hard to say no to those soft sweet little bundles of conflicting emotions.

What do you mean by they do not spend.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1242770]Jack.

You are right about them not spending.

And W / L's preference is to have the bars full of white guys.

And the point about Chinese women in Wanchai bars. Except for the odd Mongolian. It is simple they prefer to cater for the Asian Market.[/QUOTE]

Just a thanks for all the info, about HK over CNY.

I had a great visit to HK 1st report already posted, I would do my 2nd report but can't remember a thing!

After watching the Nadal DJo. Final for 6 hrs, I ventured out again and met an Lady from Zimababwe she waived me and talked to me she offered me 1500 for ST and 3000 for LT, I bargained and she came to my hotel for 500, she was refusing to give me a BBBJ but agreed on getting 100 more and then had two pops including COBooty.

[QUOTE=Royalpardesi2001;1242773]What do you mean by they do not spend.[/QUOTE]Because it is a fact that they don't spend. Speak to any Bar owner. And I am referring to locally based residents. But unfortunately this thinking applies to some business travellers / holiday makers.

I know caucasian guys (permanent residents) who have been banned from the same bars. Because they either don't buy a drink. Or sit on one drink for 3hrs.

There are many Asian guys who are regulars at Forrest, Makati, Neptune etc. Who don't pay an entrance fee. Cause they spend money in the bars.

Bars need girls to visit bars. Who attract guys. Who then spend money. And bars only get their money from drinks.

And when I travel back to Indonesia / Bali. I pay an entrance fee cause I am a Indonesian and Bule's get in for free.

Swings and roundabouts.

I live in China but because of my stupid visa problem, I have to go to Hong Kong every 30 days for a day. Which is no problem because I love Hong Kong. Problem is, I am stuck in HK and can't go to Shenzhen or Macau when there. Is there anyone here with experience of a good spa or sauna in Hong Kong where I can go and have a nice relaxing massage and FS by the girl that I pick. I know there are several places like this in Macau and Shenzhen, but never experienced one in Hong Kong. I have been to TST and several others where they always pick the girl for you. I want to go to decent place in Hong Kong where I can relax for a few hours (in a spa or sauna). And pick the girl I want. Hope there is one.

I look forward to your advice.

Went there about 6pm yesterday and was it packed. There were 4 people waiting at the lounge including myself and all the rooms had someone waiting in there. Was led to a room in 2 minutes and told to wait. Waited for 15 mins while watching some local show. Finally a lady named Yoyo came and we spoke briefly. She was 5'1, 26 yo, A cup boobs with a pleasant face. She didn't make eye contact and seemed a bit uninterested. As I couldn't be bother waiting for another girl and I think she would do fine. I said ok, let's go. Paid $410 ($20 extra because of the new year) and was led up to 9th floor. Paid another $100 for a dodgy looking room.

Got into the room, stripped and went into the shower. In the shower she did a bit of BM them a nice wet BBBJ with a bit of deep throat. We then proceed to the bed and she gave a bit of AR and continue with lots of loud slurpy BBBJ with more deep throat. Proceeded to enter her missionary and she was tight. Went at it for 5 minutes and picked her up and did it standing up then had her on top. She knew how to grind and move. It felt good. It was then back to missionary and then she said it started to hurt a bit. It was then that she realized that she forgot to use lube. LOL. What a cutie. She went and put some lube in and came back continuing the missionary. This time I gave her my all and made her cum unexpectedly. It was a fun sight to looked at as she as surprised too. I came soon after that too.

After the deed, she was saying OMG, you fucked me long time. So long that my vagina was hurting. LOL.

Conclusion, she is a girl worth trying. A bit different but nice different. Not the traditional fake nice.

Name: Yoyo.

Age: 26.

Height: 5'1.

Weight: about 45kg.

Face: 6.

Body: 6.

BBBJ: 8.

AR: yes.

FJ: 8.

GFE: yes

[QUOTE=NiceGuySteve; 1243002]I live in China but because of my stupid visa problem, I have to go to Hong Kong every 30 days for a day. Which is no problem because I love Hong Kong. Problem is, I am stuck in HK and can't go to Shenzhen or Macau when there. Is there anyone here with experience of a good spa or sauna in Hong Kong where I can go and have a nice relaxing massage and FS by the girl that I pick. I know there are several places like this in Macau and Shenzhen, but never experienced one in Hong Kong. I have been to TST and several others where they always pick the girl for you. I want to go to decent place in Hong Kong where I can relax for a few hours (in a spa or sauna). And pick the girl I want. Hope there is one.

I look forward to your advice.[/QUOTE]I wish I could help and I would if I could. You're probably going to either be ignored or get a bunch of RTFF's here. Sad really, don't know why they can't just answer again.

I was lucky enough to make a stopover in Hong Kong this past Sunday. A quick lunch at 1:00 and then off to Wan Chai. The goal of the day was to find a cute and willing DH who did not have a curfew and have her back at the hotel by early evening. Sometimes dreams do come true.

When I arrived in Wan Chai the dance clubs weren't open yet so I stopped over at Old Asia Hand – a British Pub. To have a wakeup coffee first. By 2:00 the Filipina DH were wandering into the place in small flocks of 2 or 3 at a time. They were mostly there to try to make some early contacts before the New Makati next door opened for business. All of the girls in the bar were more than friendly, and in no time I had a 30-something very pretty single Mom and her friend sitting at my table with drinks in hand. A round for 3 came to just over 80 HKD, so no harm done.

The single Mom kind of singled me out, and in no time she had assumed that I would accompany her and her friends up to New Makati. Her intentions were clear, in that she wanted me to take her back to the hotel for some fun after I had bought her and all of her friends plenty of expensive drinks at New Makati. I settled the tab and told her that I was going for a stroll and would meet her later at Makati. She was a little more than put off, but frankly I didn't much care for her overall demeanor.

By 3:00pm Forest was still dead, as was Traffic. Plenty of girls were wandering into Neptune 3 at that time, but I had already decided that I wanted a DH and not a WG. So by 3:30 I entered Makati. There were around 6 girls in the bar by that time, including one really pretty prospect that I passed up because she did not interest me apart from her looks. The single Mom from Old Asia Hand wandered in sometime around 4:00, but left without a word because she could see that I was not interested in her.

By 4:15pm or so, the joint was jumping and there were plenty of Filipinas and Indos in attendance. I singled out a tall and shapely indo girl who really knew how to dance, and just as I had hoped she was very open and approachable. She drank very lightly and as it turned out she had no kids and also no curfew – BINGO! So I decided to focus my attentions on this one.

During one period when the Indo girl took a bathroom break, I make eye contact with this super cute little Indo who had the horny preschool teacher look to her. She was also a DH, but had dressed up a wee bit naughty for attention. As soon as she saw my girl go to the bathroom she motioned me over, but as already stated I had decided on the tall Indo girl and would work on her. So Indo girl comes back, has a big gulp of her drink, and we proceed to dirty dance and DFK. This bodes well, I thought. She wanted to go over to Joe Banana for one drink, and halfway though that drink she announced that she had caught a buzz and was worried about the kind of girl she might become if she got too drunk. 10 minutes later we are in the taxi bound for my hotel.

Immediately upon entering the room we launched into a steamy session that lasted for 3 hours and I was able to pop 3 times (I seldom do that these days). This girl was beyond wild. While the Filipinas can be really nice and GFE, the Indonesians often tend to be more on the PSE side. She said that she hadn't had any in months (yeah whatever) , and whether or not it was true I don't care, but holy smokes this one was all over the bed. More fun that I have had in several months.

I had thought that Wan Chai was doomed after the closure of my favorite haunt Laguna. I am happy to say that it is still alive and well.

Raz

[QUOTE=NiceGuySteve; 1243002]I live in China but because of my stupid visa problem, I have to go to Hong Kong every 30 days for a day. Which is no problem because I love Hong Kong. Problem is, I am stuck in HK and can't go to Shenzhen or Macau when there. Is there anyone here with experience of a good spa or sauna in Hong Kong where I can go and have a nice relaxing massage and FS by the girl that I pick. I know there are several places like this in Macau and Shenzhen, but never experienced one in Hong Kong. I have been to TST and several others where they always pick the girl for you. I want to go to decent place in Hong Kong where I can relax for a few hours (in a spa or sauna). And pick the girl I want. Hope there is one.

I look forward to your advice.[/QUOTE]Think you need to stick to the Kowloon side for a F / S massage.

Believe it or not hard to find F / S in HK Island.

Or you could try an escort who will give a full service massage - Won't be too much difference in price.

Jack the lad maybe able to help you.

DH tip. There are few that have Saturday as their one day off per week. I've been in Neptunes III a few times on Saturday afternoon this past month.

By 5:00PM maybe 20 indos and 10 filipina (and about 5 guys)

I'll second that Makeup! My favourite is New Makati on Saturday, nowhere near as crowded as Sunday and drinks including lady drinks are happy hour until 9pm.

PS Neptune 2 had loads of DH last Sunday and very few guys. Paradise!

Now I've got as many posts as Makeup.

[QUOTE=RasSpewtin; 1243084]I was lucky enough to make a stopover in Hong Kong this past Sunday. A quick lunch at 1:00 and then off to Wan Chai. The goal of the day was to find a cute and willing DH who did not have a curfew and have her back at the hotel by early evening. Sometimes dreams do come true.

When I arrived in Wan Chai the dance clubs weren't open yet so I stopped over at Old Asia Hand – a British Pub. To have a wakeup coffee first. By 2:00 the Filipina DH were wandering into the place in small flocks of 2 or 3 at a time. They were mostly there to try to make some early contacts before the New Makati next door opened for business. All of the girls in the bar were more than friendly, and in no time I had a 30-something very pretty single Mom and her friend sitting at my table with drinks in hand. A round for 3 came to just over 80 HKD, so no harm done.

The single Mom kind of singled me out, and in no time she had assumed that I would accompany her and her friends up to New Makati. Her intentions were clear, in that she wanted me to take her back to the hotel for some fun after I had bought her and all of her friends plenty of expensive drinks at New Makati. I settled the tab and told her that I was going for a stroll and would meet her later at Makati. She was a little more than put off, but frankly I didn't much care for her overall demeanor.

By 3:00pm Forest was still dead, as was Traffic. Plenty of girls were wandering into Neptune 3 at that time, but I had already decided that I wanted a DH and not a WG. So by 3:30 I entered Makati. There were around 6 girls in the bar by that time, including one really pretty prospect that I passed up because she did not interest me apart from her looks. The single Mom from Old Asia Hand wandered in sometime around 4:00, but left without a word because she could see that I was not interested in her.

By 4:15pm or so, the joint was jumping and there were plenty of Filipinas and Indos in attendance. I singled out a tall and shapely indo girl who really knew how to dance, and just as I had hoped she was very open and approachable. She drank very lightly and as it turned out she had no kids and also no curfew – BINGO! So I decided to focus my attentions on this one.

During one period when the Indo girl took a bathroom break, I make eye contact with this super cute little Indo who had the horny preschool teacher look to her. She was also a DH, but had dressed up a wee bit naughty for attention. As soon as she saw my girl go to the bathroom she motioned me over, but as already stated I had decided on the tall Indo girl and would work on her. So Indo girl comes back, has a big gulp of her drink, and we proceed to dirty dance and DFK. This bodes well, I thought. She wanted to go over to Joe Banana for one drink, and halfway though that drink she announced that she had caught a buzz and was worried about the kind of girl she might become if she got too drunk. 10 minutes later we are in the taxi bound for my hotel.

Immediately upon entering the room we launched into a steamy session that lasted for 3 hours and I was able to pop 3 times (I seldom do that these days). This girl was beyond wild. While the Filipinas can be really nice and GFE, the Indonesians often tend to be more on the PSE side. She said that she hadn't had any in months (yeah whatever) , and whether or not it was true I don't care, but holy smokes this one was all over the bed. More fun that I have had in several months.

I had thought that Wan Chai was doomed after the closure of my favorite haunt Laguna. I am happy to say that it is still alive and well.

Raz[/QUOTE]Thanks for confirming the Sunday scene is just like I left it! Can't wait to get back.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1243176]DH tip. There are few that have Saturday as their one day off per week. I've been in Neptunes III a few times on Saturday afternoon this past month.

By 5:00PM maybe 20 indos and 10 filipina (and about 5 guys) [/QUOTE]Awesome. That's the kind of valuable info this board needs! I've just gotten confirmation of my relocation to HKG. Be there in a month. :-D

[QUOTE=Joe Banana; 1243187]PS Neptune 2 had loads of DH last Sunday and very few guys. Paradise!

Now I've got as many posts as Makeup.[/QUOTE]Great info, thanks for the recon!

[QUOTE=NiceGuySteve; 1243002]I live in China but because of my stupid visa problem, I have to go to Hong Kong every 30 days for a day. Which is no problem because I love Hong Kong. Problem is, I am stuck in HK and can't go to Shenzhen or Macau when there. Is there anyone here with experience of a good spa or sauna in Hong Kong where I can go and have a nice relaxing massage and FS by the girl that I pick. I know there are several places like this in Macau and Shenzhen, but never experienced one in Hong Kong. I have been to TST and several others where they always pick the girl for you. I want to go to decent place in Hong Kong where I can relax for a few hours (in a spa or sauna). And pick the girl I want. Hope there is one.

I look forward to your advice.[/QUOTE]It is my understanding that for your visa purposes, Hong Kong and Macau would both do the job. Next time, go directly to Macau or just JetBoat over to Macau from HKIA. And then be sure to ask for a longer stay the next time you get a visa. I have 60 days and I believe there is a 90 day one too.

Cal8

Hey!

Whats happening in HK?

No reports for 3 days!

I'm about to visit. Don't tell me it's closed!

Anyone know of a decent quality short time hotel in causeway bay? I'm thinking like Beverly or Victoria in wan chai. I've tried a guest house but a bit too low end (price is right. 100 for two hours. 140 on weekend). A certain colleague requires certain standards for me to be successful. Getting to wan chai doesn't work for a mid day quikie.

Thanks

WG

Been there Friday night, mamasan (speaks English) showed three girls, one at a time.

First one: OK body, Mongoloid face, but not pretty.

Second one: old ( 40?). You could see it in the dim lights.

At this point I wanted to leave but was persuaded to see another one.

Third one: not very nice, her body wasn't great either.

So I just left.

Maybe the pretty girls were busy working as it was around midnight.

Oriental Guest House on the next floor was closed.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1243153]Think you need to stick to the Kowloon side for a F / S massage.

Believe it or not hard to find F / S in HK Island.

Or you could try an escort who will give a full service massage. Won't be too much difference in price.

Jack the lad maybe able to help you.[/QUOTE]Not much experience myself with saunas etc but I think Chantik is right. Stick to Kowloon for what you are looking for. In TST you can hardly move before someone is pressing a leaflet into your hand offering all sorts of massage etc. In the interests of research I have tried and not really been disappointed.

However, room service is a different kettle of fish and any that I have had, in the comfort of my own room, has always led to the offer of FS. The price is not much different either, but you don't know what she looks like until she knocks on the door. Google for hotel massage.

Try your luck and report back.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1243153]Think you need to stick to the Kowloon side for a F / S massage.

Believe it or not hard to find F / S in HK Island.

Or you could try an escort who will give a full service massage. Won't be too much difference in price.

Jack the lad maybe able to help you.[/QUOTE]Now, who am I, or any of you guys, to disagree with Chantik on mongering matters in Hong Kong.

I am deeply in her debt for fixing me up with some wonderful company last week, which at left me without stamina and desire to further explore the fleshpots of HKG. (Don't bother to ask, 'cause I won't tell)

BUT:

In order to find massage with FS, massage without FS or FS without massage, BDSM, anal, or you name it, all you need to do, is to look over the websites six141, 161sex and miss148 (add DOTCOM to each one) , with hundreds of providers geographically sorted into Kowloon, New Territories and HK island.

Each of those is divided into districts (e. G. Wanchai, Causeway Bay, North Point etc) and each of those again into streets, or rather "buildings" complete with street addresses.

For each building, somewhere between 1 and 20 providers are listed, with all the services / prices they offer.

All the sites are in English but some of the service descriptions are in Chinese. (Solution: translate. Google. Com).

The prices are 300. 500 HKD, but be careful to READ what the descriptions say.

With all this info at your fingertips, if you still cannot find what you were looking for, you are either too lazy or just too dumb and don't deserve it anyway.

Now, Chantik is of course right in saying, that it is harder to find a suitable provider on HK island than in Kowloon.

I'd guess, that HK island has only about 5-10% of total providers.

But I'd also guess (unsubstantiated!) , that HK has about as many providers as London. Many more work in those "buildings" who are not listed on the sites I mentioned, so you should not 'go hungry'. The Fuji Building alone, on Lockhart, has some 20 floors with at least 5 providers each. Even on sex-deprived HK island, you should feel like a kid in a candy store.

I myself have successfully used that method in HKG for the last 4 years, until this wonderful lady (I mean Chantik, whom I have not even met, as yet) opened my eyes to the wonderful world of escorts.

It is simply a choice between quantity and quality, between fast food (which needn't be bad, but often is) and an exquisite restaurant (which needn't be as good as they pretend to be, but usually still very good).

The price is higher, but not that much (not even close to Europe, London or USA) and with the right lady, you are getting real quality time, be it GFE or raunchy sex or both.

'Nuf said!

[QUOTE=RasSpewtin; 1243084]While the Filipinas can be really nice and GFE, the Indonesians often tend to be more on the PSE side.

Raz[/QUOTE]*Makes mental note*

Good info. Thanks!

The Blue Sky Sauna at Causeway Plaza, Causeway Bay, does FS massage. It's the closest to a Macau-style sauna that I'm aware of in HK.

Not an exact copy though. They don't do line-ups or shows. But the maitre d' will give you guidance and help you choose a girl. There is food / drink in the waiting area, but they do prefer to hustle you through and straight into the massage room. And there are no ancillary staff offering pedicure, ear-cleaning etc and demanding tips.

I've been a few times (RTFF; it used to be called "Ocean Dragon") and found the quality of the girls to be acceptable, but not up to Macau standards. Price is about HK$1100 for massage and FS.

Had a wonder around Wanchai this afternoon to catch up with friends.

Very crowded in most of the bars. Haven't seen it this crowded for a while.

Lots of pretty girls, lots of drinking, guys spending tonnes of money, a few girls trying to wear clothes and some wild dancing by the girls.

It appears that Forest is getting a bigger crowd than Makati on a Sunday afternoon.

We could say that today was a GUY's delight.

[QUOTE=Idler31; 1244719]The Blue Sky Sauna at Causeway Plaza, Causeway Bay, does FS massage. It's the closest to a Macau-style sauna that I'm aware of in HK.

Not an exact copy though. They don't do line-ups or shows. But the maitre the' will give you guidance and help you choose a girl. There is food / drink in the waiting area, but they do prefer to hustle you through and straight into the massage room. And there are no ancillary staff offering pedicure, ear-cleaning etc and demanding tips.

I've been a few times (RTFF; it used to be called "Ocean Dragon") and found the quality of the girls to be acceptable, but not up to Macau standards. Price is about HK$1100 for massage and FS.[/QUOTE]FWIW I don't think this place is as busy as others on the Island (Ocean King etc) ans as at my visit a year ago was clean and comfortable. Add all the Macau frills and this place would be a winner. Not big and on my visit no rush to get me in one side and out the other. Return visit slated for the end of this month.

[QUOTE=Wine Guy 247; 1244328]Anyone know of a decent quality short time hotel in causeway bay? I'm thinking like Beverly or Victoria in wan chai. I've tried a guest house but a bit too low end (price is right. 100 for two hours. 140 on weekend). A certain colleague requires certain standards for me to be successful. Getting to wan chai doesn't work for a mid day quikie.

Thanks.

WG[/QUOTE]There is also a Victoria in Tin Hau basically across the street from the MTR entrance that itself is across the street from the east side of Victoria Park. It's not exactly CWB but depending on where you are in CWB it should be easier to get there and back than getting to the one on Lockhart Road.

Again depending on where you are in CWB there is a Mingle on Wan Chai Road not far from that fresh market area which is on the other side of the overpass from Times Square. If you walk briskly it's close to most of CWB.

It's impressive and ballsy that you're fucking a colleague, especially doing mid-day quickies. Is she a local? And now that I've pointed you in the right direction, we expect a post in the photo gallery. Even if only clothed.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1244953]Had a wonder around Wanchai this afternoon to catch up with friends.

Very crowded in most of the bars. Haven't seen it this crowded for a while.

Lots of pretty girls, lots of drinking, guys spending tonnes of money, a few girls trying to wear clothes and some wild dancing by the girls.

It appears that Forest is getting a bigger crowd than Makati on a Sunday afternoon.

We could say that today was a GUY's delight.[/QUOTE]Who knows, I may have run into you without knowing it.

I had an opportunity to go to Wan Chai for the first time in many months yesterday, but it was early (about 11) , and I had things to do starting about 3 so I knew the selection would be limited. Many places weren't even open yet. But after popping into a few and not really liking what I'd seen, I noticed there were about 8-10 girls in Old China Hand in various states of inebriation and / or skimpy dress, some dancing crazy but those are not the type that attract me. I quickly got talking to an Indo DH (but obvious part-time WG) named Ida and her friend whose name I've forgotten. She was tall by Indo standards with a cute roundish face and small tits, pretty standard. We quickly agreed on the standard 1K ST and after a few minutes she finished her drink and we were off to the good old Victoria.

I always laugh at Victoria how they give you your $20 change as a $10 bill and 2 $5 coins, thinking that you will leave the coins as is the local habit at restaurants. Why would I do this at a ST hotel? Anyway.

We started off with DFK progressing quickly to BBBJ. Her BJ was toothy and I had to tell her several times to watch it, but nothing painful happened. We undressed and I DATY on her completely smooth pussy, it seemed waxed but she told me it was only a shave. After she came a couple of times we BBFS in many positions and she was either very into it or doing a good acting job. Finally I sat her on the little bench the Victoria provides and lifted her legs up and pounded her that way which made it convenient for me to pull out at the last second and CIM. She took it all like a champ and swallowed without hesitation. That's my girl.

After about 45 minutes of pillow talk, nice conversation and some laughs we were ready to go again. I told her I didn't want to fuck again because I'd cum already and my cum would get insider her. So she told me that her period had started only 3 days ago but hers only last about 2 days so there was no way she'd be fertile. Still, I declined. She started with HJ while I rubbed her clit and lips, then she took my finger and told me she wanted me to finger bang her fast and furious. She came a couple more times while stroking my cock gently which was nice. Then she moved into 69 position and blew me until I came again, and again she swallowed. Although we were in 69 position I didn't DATY again because when I looked I saw some blood surrounding her lips, then looked at the finger I'd been using to finger bang her and it was bloody as was the surrounding area. Fuck, I guess she wasn't quite done with her period after all. However I never noticed any on or around my cock or mouth so it must have resumed while we were pillow talking. After I blew my second load I showed her the spots of blood on my shirt that she left there when we were in 69 position as well as my finger. She was embarrassed and apologized profusely, but it was no big deal to me, I just washed it all off.

She was nice, cute and pretty good fuck and nice to talk to. She happened to be out on Sunday but more often has days off on Saturday. She's worth a try.

Have fun and stay safe.

Johnny Rocket

I was surprised that the price is now 530 (hotel + girl). Rooms have mirrors, unlike the reports I have read earlier. Girls are not particularly pretty. There is always something wrong. Nice face comes with chubby body, or petite girl having flat tits. Maybe I went there too early, around 1pm and 5pm. They do good service though.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1245347]Who knows, I may have run into you without knowing it.

After she came a couple of times we BBFS in many positions and she was either very into it or doing a good acting job.

Have fun and stay safe.

Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE]Strange statement at the end after reporting a BBFS with a working girl

Here's a question I may have posted some time ago, one that got no response. Perhaps the fabulous Chantik has some insight. A few months ago a Filipina DH / WG mentioned to me that some of her compatriots work in KTVs a few blocks from Times Square and that takeaway is on offer. I didn't take much stock in it but later was approached by a couple girls (assume they were from the Phils) in that vicinity (Percival St.) who wanted me to grab a cab with them to Wan Chai. It was about 2 a. M, possible quitting time at a KTV. At the time I was too knackered and didn't particularly want to spring the bill for their night on the town. If anyone knows of such setups in CB, and would be interested in arranging a Dongguan-esque party, if indeed such a thing is possible, PM me.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1245820]A few months ago a Filipina DH / WG mentioned to me that some of her compatriots work in KTVs a few blocks from Times Square and that takeaway is on offer.[/QUOTE]KTV expen$$$I've. Girls are generally prettier and more bubbly than most DH. And yes, they are available before and after their shift if they are not with clients already. Think they are in equally bad situation as some of the managed WL.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1245820]Here's a question I may have posted some time ago, one that got no response. Perhaps the fabulous Chantik has some insight. A few months ago a Filipina DH / WG mentioned to me that some of her compatriots work in KTVs a few blocks from Times Square and that takeaway is on offer. I didn't take much stock in it but later was approached by a couple girls (assume they were from the Phils) in that vicinity (Percival St.) who wanted me to grab a cab with them to Wan Chai. It was about 2 a. M, possible quitting time at a KTV. At the time I was too knackered and didn't particularly want to spring the bill for their night on the town. If anyone knows of such setups in CB, and would be interested in arranging a Dongguan-esque party, if indeed such a thing is possible, PM me.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]KTV / Karaoke bars.

There are few in Causeway Bay. Don't know the addresses. Mixture of girls from different Asian nationalities. Take away is available. But as boarer says can be expensive.

And usually these places are 95% full of Asian Guys which may not be your scene.

What is a Dongguan-Esque party?

JR.

1000 for a Sunday Girl. Generous. Think the D / H hope you visit more often.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1245896]KTV expen$$$I've. Girls are generally prettier and more bubbly than most DH. And yes, they are available before and after their shift if they are not with clients already. Think they are in equally bad situation as some of the managed WL.[/QUOTE]Think that you will find out that the take-out is lower than expected.

Some of the Asian Guys are happy to drink and enjoy the company of the girls. This appeals to girls who can earn drink commissions.

And a few illegal girls work at these places.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1245904]What is a Dongguan-Esque party?[/QUOTE]KTV to the extreme. Girls drink and play games, just like hkg or korea, but in DG, it can get significantly wilder. Less clothes (possibly none at some point). BJs in the room, sometimes more.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1245905]JR.

1000 for a Sunday Girl. Generous. Think the D / H hope you visit more often.[/QUOTE]She was obviously a semi-pro who works one or two days a week consistently. I started lower but she immediately mentioned the standard rate for WC ST take-out from the discos, so fair dinkum. I might have been able to get her for less but didn't push.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1245989]She was obviously a semi-pro who works one or two days a week consistently. I started lower but she immediately mentioned the standard rate for WC ST take-out from the discos, so fair dinkum. I might have been able to get her for less but didn't push.[/QUOTE]Most of the full time pro or semi-pro don't go out on Sunday morning / afternoon cause they know the D / H price is 500.

Anyway I am certain that she told her friends that you paid 2000.

[QUOTE=Lucky21;1245937]KTV to the extreme. Girls drink and play games, just like hkg or korea, but in DG, it can get significantly wilder. Less clothes (possibly none at some point). BJs in the room, sometimes more.[/QUOTE]Thanks for jumping in with the description. I certainly wouldn't expect the wilder bits of the DG experience in Hong Kong (I have not seen the wilder stuff during my attendance at the fun parties arranged by Big Swingin Dave. See Dongguan thread in China). I fully understand the prices are high. Does anyone know about how much, with drinks / room rental, etc, do they have lineups, etc.)? But if a majority of the girls are simply shilling for drinks I would take a pass on this scene in HK. Thanks for your insights, one and all.

Does anyone else agree?

I like 37 Dundas, and the Chinese girls in Macau, but, in this day and age, I really don't enjoy dealing with a huge muff of hair down there.

I guess Chinese guys still like a nice Bush?

This is one of the main reasons I stick with Filipina and Indos in Hk.

I wish Chinese girls would get with the program.

[QUOTE=Mreaton; 1246251]Does anyone else agree?

I like 37 Dundas, and the Chinese girls in Macau, but, in this day and age, I really don't enjoy dealing with a huge muff of hair down there.

I guess Chinese guys still like a nice Bush?

This is one of the main reasons I stick with Filipina and Indos in Hk.

I wish Chinese girls would get with the program.[/QUOTE]Chinese girls shave their pussy if they only want to service GWAILO's.

Guess these girls have mainly Chinese customers.

And guess then the girls will lose business. Cause Chinese Guys like hairy pussies.

Can also say that Indo and Filipina's are health conscious around their pussies. Think that is healthier to have no hair. And it makes it easier to clean the pussy.

No, I do not agree. I like it natural. There are important evolutionary reasons why we otherwise hairless apes have retained significant hair in a few places. Shaving the genitalia is maladaptive. Not to mention, it makes the pussy look like a little girl's, which is not appealing to me.

[QUOTE=Mreaton; 1246251]Does anyone else agree?

I like 37 Dundas, and the Chinese girls in Macau, but, in this day and age, I really don't enjoy dealing with a huge muff of hair down there.

I guess Chinese guys still like a nice Bush?

This is one of the main reasons I stick with Filipina and Indos in Hk.

I wish Chinese girls would get with the program.[/QUOTE]

Pussy hair or bald is an issue for some punters.

This is a common request. And most ask if I am bald!

Greetings fellow punters,

I have a friend that's visiting HK with me. I'm local and have played a bit in HK so I'm familar with the 141 scene. 37 Dundas and the Russians at Hari's. And my friend's got a lot more game than me which should make him popular at Laguna and other DH bars. (He's white like the Pillsbury dough boy from the US).

I understand that for 141 some providers might not service my friend, as he's white.

Do you know how picky the hotel walkups are in Tsimshatsui for servicing white guys?

Also. And this is tricky, I understand. This is likely my friend's last trip to Asia as a single man. As such, he wants to have a real memorable experience, by arranging an overnight with 4-5 cuties simultaneously. What's the best way to make this happen? We have a budget of about HK$3000 to HK$7000 for this.

Thanks!

Kenji

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1246342]Pussy hair or bald is an issue for some punters.

This is a common request. And most ask if I am bald![/QUOTE]Chantik.

And?

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1246330]No, I do not agree. I like it natural. There are important evolutionary reasons why we otherwise hairless apes have retained significant hair in a few places. Shaving the genitalia is maladaptive. Not to mention, it makes the pussy look like a little girl's, which is not appealing to me.[/QUOTE]Definitely agree. I'm a fan of anything that provides foilage to the punani region.

Although I have had a few shockers from other races that could really use a tidy up, most asian ladies seem to have a good amount of Bush naturally IMO.

[QUOTE=Lucky21; 1246472]Chantik.

And?[/QUOTE]Thought my previous post. Gave the answer.

Filipina's, Indo's Thais think it is clean and healthy to have no pussy hair.

[QUOTE=Battousai; 1246380]Greetings fellow punters,

I have a friend that's visiting HK with me. I'm local and have played a bit in HK so I'm familar with the 141 scene. 37 Dundas and the Russians at Hari's. And my friend's got a lot more game than me which should make him popular at Laguna and other DH bars. (He's white like the Pillsbury dough boy from the US).

I understand that for 141 some providers might not service my friend, as he's white.

Do you know how picky the hotel walkups are in Tsimshatsui for servicing white guys?

Also. And this is tricky, I understand. This is likely my friend's last trip to Asia as a single man. As such, he wants to have a real memorable experience, by arranging an overnight with 4-5 cuties simultaneously. What's the best way to make this happen? We have a budget of about HK$3000 to HK$7000 for this.

Thanks!

Kenji[/QUOTE]This is a tough job.

Suggest that you will need at least 12K for four ladies to stay overnight. And this is if you can convince them to stay the night.

More likely to get two girls for that price.

Guys,

I am staying in the Wharney from 16th March. I have some time for fun before the 7s and wonder whether you would recommend staying around Wan Chai or venture further afield?

The reports on the Hotel are not great, but I've been told that it is good for the 7s and handy for Laguna / Neptune etc. Any thoughts?

I had a couple of days at the Cosmopolitan in 2010 and thought that Laguna / Neptune were great fun. Is there anything much in Kowloon?

Thought that I might venture to Macau as well for the sauna and Lisboa experience.

Any thoughts / views?

Peter

I have only ever had one 141 girl tell me she doesn't take white customers. One out of hundreds of doors knocked on and dozens of 141 girls fucked. I rarely use the hotel girls, but I have not heard of this happening with them either.

[QUOTE=Battousai; 1246380]Greetings fellow punters,

I have a friend that's visiting HK with me. I'm local and have played a bit in HK so I'm familar with the 141 scene. 37 Dundas and the Russians at Hari's. And my friend's got a lot more game than me which should make him popular at Laguna and other DH bars. (He's white like the Pillsbury dough boy from the US).

I understand that for 141 some providers might not service my friend, as he's white.

Do you know how picky the hotel walkups are in Tsimshatsui for servicing white guys?

Also. And this is tricky, I understand. This is likely my friend's last trip to Asia as a single man. As such, he wants to have a real memorable experience, by arranging an overnight with 4-5 cuties simultaneously. What's the best way to make this happen? We have a budget of about HK$3000 to HK$7000 for this.

Thanks!

Kenji[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1246581]Guys,

I am staying in the Wharney from 16th March. I have some time for fun before the 7s and wonder whether you would recommend staying around Wan Chai or venture further afield?

The reports on the Hotel are not great, but I've been told that it is good for the 7s and handy for Laguna / Neptune etc. Any thoughts?

I had a couple of days at the Cosmopolitan in 2010 and thought that Laguna / Neptune were great fun. Is there anything much in Kowloon?

Thought that I might venture to Macau as well for the sauna and Lisboa experience.

Any thoughts / views?

Peter[/QUOTE]Hotel is fine.

You are in the best location.

No need to move out of Wanchai if you are interested in women.

Anyone know a reasonable price source of cialis in Hong Kong?

[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;1246710]Anyone know a reasonable price source of cialis in Hong Kong?[/QUOTE]You need to visit a doctor and gain a prescription. This is the legal way.

You could try the smaller Chinese pharmacies, although they can be hard to find if you are a visitor.

[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;1246710]Anyone know a reasonable price source of cialis in Hong Kong?[/QUOTE]Try the pharmacy next to the entrance of Kpressure in Jordan. They also have generics.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1246849]You need to visit a doctor and gain a prescription. This is the legal way.

You could try the smaller Chinese pharmacies, although they can be hard to find if you are a visitor.[/QUOTE]Oh Chantik, this is the first 'fail' on your part, and here you had me believing you were some kind of savant when it came to the finer points of mongering in HK. Authentic Vitamin C is both widely available and relatively inexpensive in the city, and the pharmacy next to K-Pressure just noted below is as good a place as any to make your purchase. As also noted elsewhere in this forum, your order May even come with a wry sense of humor on the side.

Happy Hunting.

[QUOTE=Rippa;1246870]. Vitamin C is both widely available and relatively inexpensive in the city.[/QUOTE]Widely available, yes but at US$11. 00 per pill (HKD 345+ for a pack of 4) it is not cheap. You can get it at any non-chain pharmacy in HK.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1246870]Oh Chantik, this is the first 'fail' on your part, and here you had me believing you were some kind of savant when it came to the finer points of mongering in HK. Authentic Vitamin C is both widely available and relatively inexpensive in the city, and the pharmacy next to K-Pressure just noted below is as good a place as any to make your purchase. As also noted elsewhere in this forum, your order May even come with a wry sense of humor on the side.

Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]So you are saying legally that no prescription is needed for Cialis but a prescription is needed for Viagra.

I do laugh when clients ask me to get them a Viagra or Cialis. A woman can hardly work into a pharmacy or get a prescription from a doctor.

Bit like a guy getting a contraceptive pill!

I was saying in my previous posts that for travellers who are new to HK. Finding the smaller pharmacies can be difficult. No point going to a Watson's.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1246559]Thought my previous post. Gave the answer.

Filipina's, Indo's Thais think it is clean and healthy to have no pussy hair.[/QUOTE]My DH is Indo and she has a lovely thick Bush.

And before anyone asks, no I don't fuck her. I used to live in an apartment that from the rear balcony you could see the reflection in the mirror in the bathroom if the bathroom window was open. One day I was putting some stuff back there and completely by accident saw into the bathroom mirror and my helper was standing naked in front of it. So that's how I know. I wouldn't fuck my helper, that seems like a recipe for disaster.

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1246870]Oh Chantik, this is the first 'fail' on your part, and here you had me believing you were some kind of savant when it came to the finer points of mongering in HK. Authentic Vitamin C is both widely available and relatively inexpensive in the city, and the pharmacy next to K-Pressure just noted below is as good a place as any to make your purchase. As also noted elsewhere in this forum, your order May even come with a wry sense of humor on the side.

Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]No fail here. She is correct that legally you must have a prescription. But it is available in all local pharmacies (basically any pharmacy that has Chinese writing on it and isn't a Watson's or Manning's) by just asking for it at the counter. Someone unfamiliar with HK might have a little trouble.

[QUOTE=Battousai;1246380]I understand that for 141 some providers might not service my friend, as he's white.[/QUOTE]I have been with number of 141 girls and probably knocked on couple of hundred doors on both sides of the water. I only remember 2 or 3 girls closing their their door again or making some excuse after seeing I am white. The most common quoted price I have gotten for the full program is HKD 400.

[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1246581]Guys,

I am staying in the Wharney from 16th March. I have some time for fun before the 7s and wonder whether you would recommend staying around Wan Chai or venture further afield?

The reports on the Hotel are not great, but I've been told that it is good for the 7s and handy for Laguna / Neptune etc. Any thoughts?

I had a couple of days at the Cosmopolitan in 2010 and thought that Laguna / Neptune were great fun. Is there anything much in Kowloon?

Thought that I might venture to Macau as well for the sauna and Lisboa experience.

Any thoughts / views?

Peter[/QUOTE],

I had stayed many times in Wharney and it is ok. The location is the best part and the only reason I chosed that hotel was it. The rooms are a little small and overpriced but the location deserves it. After I found the Meteopark Hotel Wanchai I started to stay there. It is on the paralel street so it is very close to the bars, larger rooms, better price mostly and even at the opposite site of a biilding that have a lot of 141 girls. Metropark Wanchai is my favorite.

I am not a Kowloon fan so I can not tell much. For Macau, it is worth a try. Saunas and Mp3 is nice.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;1246710]Anyone know a reasonable price source of cialis in Hong Kong?[/QUOTE]Its probably a whole lot less trouble and cheaper if you buy it online.

Its not hard to find generics at < US$1 a tab : [url]http://www.unbrandedtadalafil.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=HKDummy;1245595]I was surprised that the price is now 530 (hotel + girl). Rooms have mirrors, unlike the reports I have read earlier. Girls are not particularly pretty. There is always something wrong. Nice face comes with chubby body, or petite girl having flat tits. Maybe I went there too early, around 1pm and 5pm. They do good service though.[/QUOTE]Actually I'm not surprised that the price has gone up. It was HK$ 490 in 2007, from what I remember.

Not all the girls are pretty, but every time I've been there, I've been able to find a pretty girl who had a decent body with small (B-cup) but nice tits, not chubby. Of course I'm usually there mid-evening.

I'm pretty new to HK, having only had two experiences there, one with a 141 walk up in Kowloon which was pretty good and a mediocre experience at K-Pressure. However, I have a couple long layovers coming up in HK and am wondering how best to sample the Wanchai bars (I've never been to any of them and I'm more partial to SE Asians than Chinese, plus I prefer the FL scene). Do you need to have a hotel room to do a takeout from the Wanchai clubs? Are there short time hotels close by as an alternative, especially since I won't be staying overnight? Or do I just try to get one of the cheaper hotels in the Wanchai area for under $100 US that have been mentioned on the forum?

My first layover is on a Thursday morning, flight arriving at 6 AM, leaving Noon. Might be kind of tight getting in someplace, but could I try to get down to some of the Wanchai bars that are open in the morning (I understand Old China Hand, Queen Victoria and possibly Bar 109?). But, is there really any action on weekday mornings? Or am I best off trying to find a 141 open in the morning?

My second layover is longer. It's on a Monday, arriving around noon, and leaving at 1:00 AM at night. Hoping to partake a couple times, perhaps an afternoon delight out of a Wanchai bar, and an evening one. Again, wondering what the bars are like on weekday afternoons. Or is this a waste of time vs. A 141?

Thanks in advance for any advice and comments.

Always laugh when guy wants a perfect body (as well as service) for HK 500.

And what is perfect for one guy is not for the next guy.

[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;1246710]Anyone know a reasonable price source of cialis in Hong Kong?[/QUOTE]There is a small well stocked chemist / pharmacy on Tin Lok Lane at the junction with Wan Chai Road almost on the pedestrian crossing to get across Tin Lok Lane going towards the fruit / fish markets near to Times Square.

It has all the genuine products that you are looking for without prescriptions and sometimes has special offers on Cialis

What is the price of cialis in HK if you do have a perscription?

Is there any word on any US Navy visits next weekend (18/19 Feb)?

And Uncle Goober, if you are watching and not to tired from a Sunday excursion, text me if you are still ok to meet Friday or Saturday!

THanks.

CT

[QUOTE=Timewaster;1247268]What is the price of cialis in HK if you do have a perscription?[/QUOTE]Expect to pay a minimum of HKD 345. 00 for a pack of four, with or without prescription. Prescription does not make it cheaper.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Sojourner2; 1247115]My first layover is on a Thursday morning, flight arriving at 6 AM, leaving Noon. Might be kind of tight getting in someplace, but could I try to get down to some of the Wanchai bars that are open in the morning (I understand Old China Hand, Queen Victoria and possibly Bar 109?). But, is there really any action on weekday mornings? Or am I best off trying to find a 141 open in the morning?

My second layover is longer. It's on a Monday, arriving around noon, and leaving at 1:00 AM at night. Hoping to partake a couple times, perhaps an afternoon delight out of a Wanchai bar, and an evening one. Again, wondering what the bars are like on weekday afternoons. Or is this a waste of time vs. A 141?

Thanks in advance for any advice and comments.[/QUOTE]Skip the first time. 4 hours is too short unles you have something definitely arranged before hand, it's half an hour each way to and from the airport, plus you need to be back at least 30 mins before flight assuming you already checked in before leaving the airport. Second stop more is possible, just go into Wanchai and look around or try the 141 site or the others like 37 Dundas etc. There are short time hotels, the girls will know them.

[QUOTE=Sojourner2;1247115]My first layover is on a Thursday morning, flight arriving at 6 AM, leaving Noon. Might be kind of tight getting in someplace, but could I try to get down to some of the Wanchai bars that are open in the morning (I understand Old China Hand, Queen Victoria and possibly Bar 109?). But, is there really any action on weekday mornings? Or am I best off trying to find a 141 open in the morning?[/QUOTE]From what I've read, Wanchai is only active at nights and on weekends. I'm certainly not planning to spend my days there.

I agree with AussieDoug and would try and find a 141 close to the airport.

Thanks Aussiedog and Switched

Hi,

Does anybody know opening hours of K-pressure?

You can women 24 hours a day in Wanchai.

Finding a woman on a layover.

Best thing is to look for a private or an agency. Make contact before. Agree to terms. And then once you arrive make sure you have a HK SIM.Make a phone call. Arrange tomeet in Wanchai / Central. Lady will recommend short time hotel.

Only two possible problems.

1) Delayed flight.

2) Guy not knowing his way around HK.

[QUOTE=Timewaster;1247268]What is the price of cialis in HK if you do have a perscription?[/QUOTE]Until now I already trial only Viagra, good result but after 2-3 hour had terrible head-pain, same thing happened 2 time.

What about Cialis, same risk?

I read in other topic also more trouble.

Very appreciate who already trial give some info.

Thank

[QUOTE=Sojourner2; 1247115]I'm pretty new to HK, having only had two experiences there, one with a 141 walk up in Kowloon which was pretty good and a mediocre experience at K-Pressure. However, I have a couple long layovers coming up in HK and am wondering how best to sample the Wanchai bars (I've never been to any of them and I'm more partial to SE Asians than Chinese, plus I prefer the FL scene). Do you need to have a hotel room to do a takeout from the Wanchai clubs? Are there short time hotels close by as an alternative, especially since I won't be staying overnight? Or do I just try to get one of the cheaper hotels in the Wanchai area for under $100 US that have been mentioned on the forum?

My first layover is on a Thursday morning, flight arriving at 6 AM, leaving Noon. Might be kind of tight getting in someplace, but could I try to get down to some of the Wanchai bars that are open in the morning (I understand Old China Hand, Queen Victoria and possibly Bar 109?). But, is there really any action on weekday mornings? Or am I best off trying to find a 141 open in the morning?

My second layover is longer. It's on a Monday, arriving around noon, and leaving at 1:00 AM at night. Hoping to partake a couple times, perhaps an afternoon delight out of a Wanchai bar, and an evening one. Again, wondering what the bars are like on weekday afternoons. Or is this a waste of time vs. A 141?

Thanks in advance for any advice and comments.[/QUOTE]There is no way you can work this on your 6-hour layover. Assume half an our each way to Hong Kong Station on the Airport Express (faster than a taxi) , then another 10-15 minutes by taxi or MTR each way depending on where you're going. Most 141s don't open until about 11am-noon, and Wan Chai will be slim pickings then, you will not make an immediate find. Also, you should be back at your gate minimum 45 minutes before takeoff and even that is pushing it. There are no mongering opportunities close to the airport. I strongly urge you not to leave the airport on a layover of only 6 hours, you are asking for trouble. Better to take advantage of the airport lounge. If you don't have access to one via your airline there is one you can pay to get into, probably not that nice but better than sitting around in the terminal, and there is one with showers I think.

However, just in case you disregard the sage advice I and other posters are dispensing. Old China Hand and Queen Victoria are close to one another and are probably your best bets.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1240109]I have stayed in many hotels in HK and never ever had a problem bringing a girl back, day or night.

Take it that they are all GF. The more stars, the more GF.

All the ones around Wan Chai. Metropoloitan, Empire, Metropark, Charterhouse, Cosmopolitan, Cosmo, Pacific, JJ Hotel etc etc do not have a problem. Same goes for those over in Kowloon.

Remember to report back! The JJ is only a 5 minute walk from the action and does not even have a reception on the ground floor entrance where the elevators take you straight to your floor.[/QUOTE]As you suggested to report back.

I stayed at the Metropark Wan Chai, excellent location, one street removed from the action.

I couldn't get in the JJ.

I was busy but didn't have any problems bringing ladies back. A lot of staff at the front door.

As the stay progress I tried to time it at night when most had gone home.

Business and family types in the Hotel so tried to be discreet.

A bit wasted by the time I left Hong Kong.

Managed to do enough of the tourist thing during the week but the weekend was serious.

Stayed out all night Friday night.

Started again in the evening Saturday, didn't arrive back at the Hotel about 6pm Sunday. Some bars didn't get going until midnight, some didn't get going until 5am. I loved it.

A lot of choices of ladies and help to spend my money.

The going rates where 1000 st 1500 lt.

It was all Fillipino, which is no problem with me, I have a lot of time for them but I'm wondering why you see very few Chinese WG?

The fillipino Bands were very good.

I've been to Jakarta, Bali, Bangkok & Singapore over the years, Wan Chai is not a bad outcome on the weekend, particular with a close Hote.

Many Thanks for Posters who took the time to give me feed back.

Balmoral

[QUOTE=Areos; 1247721]Until now I already trial only Viagra, good result but after 2-3 hour had terrible head-pain, same thing happened 2 time.

What about Cialis, same risk?

I read in other topic also more trouble.

Very appreciate who already trial give some info.

Thank[/QUOTE]I had my first Cialis experience last weekend. Only took half a tablet of Tadacip from the unbranded cialis website I posted below (note. I went tadacip not generic cialis).

As far as performance went, was pretty impressed. Came twice (rare for me) and was still good for another pop the next day (even rarer).

Did have a slight headache afterwards but it was by no means unbearable. Did find it tough at the gym the next day. But am not sure if it was because I was worn out or some of the after affects of the medication.

There is a Cialis forum in which I've been updating my experiences. I'll post some more detail in there when I get around to it, but would definitely recommend it. I've never taken blue pills or anything else related.

Areos,

Most common side effect of Cialis for me had ben back pain and muscle ache. It happens to me now and then after taking Cialis.

Be Safe,

APAC Man.

[QUOTE=Areos; 1247721]Until now I already trial only Viagra, good result but after 2-3 hour had terrible head-pain, same thing happened 2 time.

What about Cialis, same risk?

I read in other topic also more trouble.

Very appreciate who already trial give some info.

Thank[/QUOTE]

Thanks Johnny Rocket. I think I'm convinced not to try to do anything on the 6 hour layover, but will definitely shoot for something on the longer one.

[QUOTE=Apac Man;1247930]Most common side effect of Cialis for me had ben back pain and muscle ache. It happens to me now and then after taking Cialis.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I was half blaming the rowing machine and wasn't sure if it was the Vit C or not. Next time, I'll lay off the gym.

[QUOTE=Apac Man; 1247930]Areos,

Most common side effect of Cialis for me had ben back pain and muscle ache. It happens to me now and then after taking Cialis.

Be Safe,

APAC Man.[/QUOTE]You sure the back pain and muscle ache isn't from the fucking instead of the Cialis? LOL

The hawk has landed. Two hours after my 15-hour flight from the US arrived (Cathay Pacific, nice, even in economy BTW) I found myself in a couple haunts in WC. Perhaps 11-12ish was a bit early, but Neptune II's talent was largely of the hardened pros: older, rougher and largely humorless. Perhaps I'm getting pickier? Naw. One of the few I found attractive, a Viet with bangs circled around looking for marks and completely passed me by. I'm hardly shy, so when she did notice I was checking her out offered her company but her English was so poor that I figured it would likely be a pain in the ass, so took a pass. One Filipina with a lovely face (couldn't see the figure as she was on the other side of the bar) was having a lively conversation with her friend and a punter. Girl had a killer smile and perhaps I'll look for her some other day. At any rate, the fun factor was definitely drained from Neptune II, so I moved on to New Makati. Was a nice changeabout from Nep, with a much younger, prolly more semipro group (and definitely a better girls-to-men ratio on top of that). Three Indos were quite touchy-feely, more than approachable. Nice. One of their associates, a 23 whyear old playful DH named Tina, caught my eye in her qipao. Discussions were pretty quick.starting at her 2K my counter of 1 and settling at 1. 5 for LT. Yes, I know that's a little much, but young and fun (and not the least of which me being tired) has its price. I wasn't disappointed. We returned to my hotel and quickly got down to business: all the right positions. Nice BJ skills, obviously experienced, and she really got into DATY. (You get those occasionally where asphyxiation is a true threat, LOL.) Great little shaved pussy (stubbled) that was wonderfully tight and responsive. I suggested that I'd appreciate a CIM, but she demurred, stating she had never done that before (doubtful, but OK). I didn't press the matter as she made me blow my load as she really rode me in cowgirl position. After light rest for a few hours, a nice repeat (should have urged the CIM, but I am nothing if not a gentleman.) Maybe next time. Might repeat, but I'm certainly not going to create a regular relationship at 1. 5. Just too many girls.

Love how all the girls say they are a D / H.

Even the girls who go to bars day after day. Tell you they have a Day Job.

Better get in now before the Navy comes to town.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1248865.

Better get in now before the Navy comes to town.[/QUOTE]Back in the day, if someone wanted to know about a ship's movement schedule, it was always best to check with the girls in Subic Bay, when the US kept bases there. They always knew when a ship was coming in to PI. Funny how that "classified" information was so readily available to the working girls. Hahaha.

So when do the boys arrive in HK? I'm getting there soon myself.

Cheers.

The Tanuki

[QUOTE=The Tanuki;1248878]So when do the boys arrive in HK? I'm getting there soon myself.[/QUOTE]Word on street is arrive 21st. But with the tensions between US and China, who knows.

Chaos Theory. Catch up Saturday night for a beer?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1248865]Love how all the girls say they are a D / H.[/QUOTE]Yeah, LT no problem for them at all!

Well there is no problem till they find out you are only going to offer them DH price. LOL

[QUOTE=BJK; 1248950]Yeah, LT no problem for them at all!

Well there is no problem till they find out you are only going to offer them DH price. LOL[/QUOTE]Exactly.

That's why the professional / semi-professional girls don't go out on Sunday afternoon. Know this DH time and the standard price is 500.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1248812]The hawk has landed. Two hours after my 15-hour flight from the US arrived (Cathay Pacific, nice, even in economy BTW) I found myself in a couple haunts in WC. Perhaps 11-12ish was a bit early, but Neptune II's talent was largely of the hardened pros: older, rougher and largely humorless. Perhaps I'm getting pickier? Naw. One of the few I found attractive, a Viet with bangs circled around looking for marks and completely passed me by. I'm hardly shy, so when she did notice I was checking her out offered her company but her English was so poor that I figured it would likely be a pain in the ass, so took a pass. One Filipina with a lovely face (couldn't see the figure as she was on the other side of the bar) was having a lively conversation with her friend and a punter. Girl had a killer smile and perhaps I'll look for her some other day. At any rate, the fun factor was definitely drained from Neptune II, so I moved on to New Makati. Was a nice changeabout from Nep, with a much younger, prolly more semipro group (and definitely a better girls-to-men ratio on top of that). Three Indos were quite touchy-feely, more than approachable. Nice. One of their associates, a 23 whyear old playful DH named Tina, caught my eye in her qipao. Discussions were pretty quick.starting at her 2K my counter of 1 and settling at 1. 5 for LT. Yes, I know that's a little much, but young and fun (and not the least of which me being tired) has its price. I wasn't disappointed. We returned to my hotel and quickly got down to business: all the right positions. Nice BJ skills, obviously experienced, and she really got into DATY. (You get those occasionally where asphyxiation is a true threat, LOL.) Great little shaved pussy (stubbled) that was wonderfully tight and responsive. I suggested that I'd appreciate a CIM, but she demurred, stating she had never done that before (doubtful, but OK). I didn't press the matter as she made me blow my load as she really rode me in cowgirl position. After light rest for a few hours, a nice repeat (should have urged the CIM, but I am nothing if not a gentleman.) Maybe next time. Might repeat, but I'm certainly not going to create a regular relationship at 1. 5. Just too many girls.[/QUOTE]Glad you had fun, but if 'Tina' is really a domestic helper you just gave her three times what she'd make in a month for her day job.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1248987]Glad you had fun, but if 'Tina' is really a domestic helper you just gave her three times what she'd make in a month for her day job.[/QUOTE]That was 1, 500 Hong Kong (and for all the DH vs. WG / whatever, who the heck knows or cares; I would not presume to understand the psychology there. She says that despite all appearances the girls at New Makati are not having fun dancing, just shaking their arses to sell them. It is always possible she thinks I am a "nice" guy and might treat her better if I think she's not a full-time hooker. I'll do the countering at 500 and see how that works out. It was midnight, a relatively early deal closer for a hooker (who will probably hold out for more depending on market conditions.) 1, 500 is the maximum I would pay for a freelancer. Live and learn.

But Gaijin G, I am no expert on what the locals are paying their domestic helpers, but I seriously doubt they can hire one for a mere 500 HK a month, equivalent to roughly $65 USA (Tina, the one I mentioned, claims she's not a live-in. Again, who knows?

[QUOTE=Kiwistickman;1245062]FWIW I don't think this place is as busy as others on the Island (Ocean King etc) ans as at my visit a year ago was clean and comfortable. Add all the Macau frills and this place would be a winner. Not big and on my visit no rush to get me in one side and out the other. Return visit slated for the end of this month.[/QUOTE]Funny thing is I lived two blocks away from this place and never gave it any thought. I assumed it was a straightlaced outfit, as any massage place I've been to on the island, even in Wan Chai. I stopped in today for a look and was quoted $1298 for 80 minutes FS, about half that for a regular massage and $9XX for a hand job. Unless somebody warns me away I'll probably give it a try some day. Still, once you get into that $1300-$2000 range you're taking a Macau excursion including the ferrry.

According to the Blue Sky manager on duty, your masseuse is the same girl whether you want FS or just a standard massage, so you could always "upgrade" if the feeling suits you.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1249005]That was 1, 500 Hong Kong (and for all the DH vs. WG / whatever, who the heck knows or cares; I would not presume to understand the psychology there. She says that despite all appearances the girls at New Makati are not having fun dancing, just shaking their arses to sell them. It is always possible she thinks I am a "nice" guy and might treat her better if I think she's not a full-time hooker. I'll do the countering at 500 and see how that works out. It was midnight, a relatively early deal closer for a hooker (who will probably hold out for more depending on market conditions.) 1, 500 is the maximum I would pay for a freelancer. Live and learn.

But Gaijin G, I am no expert on what the locals are paying their domestic helpers, but I seriously doubt they can hire one for a mere 500 HK a month, equivalent to roughly $65 USA (Tina, the one I mentioned, claims she's not a live-in. Again, who knows?[/QUOTE]Rate per month for a D / H is about 3700.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1249005]But Gaijin G, I am no expert on what the locals are paying their domestic helpers[/QUOTE]The minimum allowable wage (MAW) is subject to regular review. For standard employment contracts made on or after 2 June 2011, the applicable MAW is HK$3, 740 per month.

I was in and about town today both in touristy and non-touristy areas and I asked 7 local pharmacies about the price of Cialis. One just told me to go away and grumbled something in Cantonese that more or less sounded like "Stupid foreigner"! Of the other six, the cheapest price was HKD365 in Kwun Tong and most expensive was in WanChai for HKD450 and he said it was the old price and will increase soon! Price in Jordan was HKD400. This is for a pack of 4 20mg pills.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

Vitamin C. Last month in HK I got a box of 4 for 360 HK. Random pharmacy in Northpoint.

Yesterday, picked up a box of 4 in Zhuhai China for 45 RMB

You have to be firm about what you are going to pay. I took a little Indo with nice tits and a lovely round ass out of New Makati last night for ST. She wanted $1000 but I was adamant that $500 is all I was paying, once they know that they will eventually relent and be quite happy about it. She was in HK as a DH and is in the clubs weekends only, consider the fact she is only paid just over $100 a day for up to 12hrs work then $500 is good money for an hour. She had a great little pussy which got nice and wet, she enjoyed it too!

I think I just suprised myself, but you can always try ebay:

[url]http://www.ebay.com/sch/rxcreams/m.html[/url]

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Erection-erectile-yellow-weekend-36-hr-pills-ED-tablets-20-mg-sex-x-10-pills-/150748129065?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231949e729[/url]

Free shipping. 10 generic pills for $25 USD ( $200 HKD)

Pretty good value. The pricing that you have been quoting, is that for Brand cialis or generics?

Hi.

Have had 2 trips to HK and enjoyed what Wan Chai can offert. But there was a taxi driver suggest to go to place, just over the Chinese border. It's should be aprox one hour driving (with taxi.) and short time visa should be easy to get. There should be lots of girls service and mutch cheaper than HK. It was not Macau.

But I don't know more about this. Was it the taxi driving just telling jokes? ?

Was I HK and under Chinese new year. And it was plenty of girl in Wan Chai.

Have had some ok girls who did the job not, and not less.

So I was at Amazonia and relaxing with drinking and music. And I was not looking for girls. But a phillipino lady, good-looking aprox 30-35 came over and I offer here a drink. After some talk I told here that I was just relaxing. And it it going to be some moor, it have to be to girls making lesbie show where I could join. The lady said she never had done lesbie, but would like to try. Then we was starting looking for an other girls to join us. And we found one both of us like. And she have lesbie exsperiens. And was fitt for a rocking night.

So then back to hotel with 2 ladyes.

When I get some cognac first and then Viagra I can fuck all night, and this time. 2 ladies =2 Viagra. But 1 had been enough.

The lesbie show was great. The one who never had done it before learn realy fast.

And I was taken good care of. Its nice to be get a BBBJ and see the girl getting licked by an other girl. To fuck dogi at the same time as the girl licking the other pussy. Have a girl riding with the back against you and than the other girl go down and starting licking the pussy you already have the dick insind, and when she lick both pussy and you balls, its fantastic.

Also have one pussy on dick and on over face can be recommended.

Lots of changing and fun. Cognac and Viagra was for me a great combination but rest of body got realy tired. The ladies got frustrated becase of the capaciy of my dick. And it was morning befor we went to sleep. Got a doble BBBJ befor they left at 11am. Doble BBBJ? 2 ladies working together.

[QUOTE=Gratass65; 1249251]Was I HK and under Chinese new year. And it was plenty of girl in Wan Chai.

Have had some ok girls who did the job not, and not less.

So then back to hotel with 2 ladyes.

When I get some cognac first and then Viagra I can fuck all night, and this time. 2 ladies =2 Viagra. But 1 had been enough.

The lesbie show was great. The one who never had done it before learn realy fast.

And I was taken good care of. Its nice to be get a BBBJ and see the girl getting licked by an other girl. To fuck dogi at the same time as the girl licking the other pussy. Have a girl riding with the back against you and than the other girl go down and starting licking the pussy you already have the dick insind, and when she lick both pussy and you balls, its fantastic.

QUOTE]


And do you mind telling us what the the cost was?

[QUOTE=Gratass65; 1249232]Hi.

Have had 2 trips to HK and enjoyed what Wan Chai can offert. But there was a taxi driver suggest to go to place, just over the Chinese border. It's should be aprox one hour driving (with taxi.) and short time visa should be easy to get. There should be lots of girls service and mutch cheaper than HK. It was not Macau.

But I don't know more about this. Was it the taxi driving just telling jokes? ?[/QUOTE]He was probably talking about Shenzhen.

Not the same as it used to be.

Plenty information on ISG about Shenzhen on the forum.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1249255]He was probably talking about Shenzhen. Not the same as it used to be. Plenty information on ISG about Shenzhen on the forum.[/QUOTE]I was about to post the same thing, JTL2.

I find Shenzhen to be a real dump. Not so cheap any more, English language a problem, etc etc.

Macao a much better option for a non-Chinese who wants a quick trip from HK.

If you have a few days, and don't mind flying, try Hangzhou. A group of my friends went there last November for a stag weekend and had a blast.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Gratass65]When I get some cognac first and then Viagra I can fuck all night, and this time. 2 ladies =2 Viagra. But 1 had been enough.[/QUOTE]It seems you certainly had a blast.

But your suggestion of two V-tabs and cognac, with a heavy all night sex romp, might kill many of the guys who read this thread.

Stay safe and sensible.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1249258]It seems you certainly had a blast.

But your suggestion of two V-tabs and cognac, with a heavy all night sex romp, might kill many of the guys who read this thread.

Stay safe and sensible.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Hi Thank for you comment. I have forgot one importan information! I have got my Viagra from my docktor. And I use only legal pills. And as my doctor said, NEVER trust any thing els than legal pills

Hi.

The ladies got 1200 + 300 tip eatch.

And they had realy worked for the money.

But they enjoy aswell. Got both phone number and mail adress from both but can not find it again.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1249257]I was about to post the same thing, JTL2.

I find Shenzhen to be a real dump. Not so cheap any more, English language a problem, etc etc.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Totally agree.

The Queens Spa is worth a visit however. Quite amazing and with some very good looking girls, some of whom are available after working hours. For those who are not aware of it, I suggest you google it.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1249258]But your suggestion of two V-tabs and cognac, with a heavy all night sex romp, might kill many of the guys who read this thread.

Cheers[/QUOTE]That would be me you are talking about.

Apparently Navy coming to Hk in March.

Date continues to change.

Imagine if they come the same time as the Rugby 7's.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1249314]Apparently Navy coming to Hk in March.

Date continues to change.

Imagine if they come the same time as the Rugby 7's.[/QUOTE]I hope it happens at the same time. Would be great, like getting a root canal and endoscopy done in one sitting. Just get it over with, the biggest collection of assholes (and I do refer more to the Sevens crowd) in and out.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1249005]That was 1, 500 Hong Kong (and for all the DH vs. WG / whatever, who the heck knows or cares; I would not presume to understand the psychology there. She says that despite all appearances the girls at New Makati are not having fun dancing, just shaking their arses to sell them. It is always possible she thinks I am a "nice" guy and might treat her better if I think she's not a full-time hooker. I'll do the countering at 500 and see how that works out. It was midnight, a relatively early deal closer for a hooker (who will probably hold out for more depending on market conditions.) 1, 500 is the maximum I would pay for a freelancer. Live and learn.

But Gaijin G, I am no expert on what the locals are paying their domestic helpers, but I seriously doubt they can hire one for a mere 500 HK a month, equivalent to roughly $65 USA (Tina, the one I mentioned, claims she's not a live-in. Again, who knows?[/QUOTE]Hmmm. If she was there at midnight, I'd say there's a slim chance that she's there as a D / H, even if it were a Sunday. I think you're right in that she probably told you she was to enhance her appeal to you, knowing that many guys are on the hunt for a 'real' girl and not a hooker. Anyway, yah, maybe start the negotiations at what you suggested next time and see how it goes.

I've had some D / Hs claim to make that little in the past, which struck me as ridiculously low too. Maybe they're making a lot more now. Sure hope so for their sake.

[QUOTE=Gratass65; 1249232]Hi.

Have had 2 trips to HK and enjoyed what Wan Chai can offert. But there was a taxi driver suggest to go to place, just over the Chinese border. It's should be aprox one hour driving (with taxi.) and short time visa should be easy to get. There should be lots of girls service and mutch cheaper than HK. It was not Macau.

But I don't know more about this. Was it the taxi driving just telling jokes? ?[/QUOTE]Dongguan (check the thread) , perhaps? But I am unaware of a quick, hassle-free visa for most nationals. There is no quick deal there: you need the passport pix, application, and all. An expedited service of a few days might be possible at the consulate, but at an extra cost. Also, for US citizens at least, the visa is multiple-entry for a year (about USD 100-125 with two or three weeks processing, but my experience was from the US; perhaps it is quicker in HK).

[QUOTE=Joe Banana;1249172]You have to be firm about what you are going to pay. I took a little Indo with nice tits and a lovely round ass out of New Makati last night for ST. She wanted $1000 but I was adamant that $500 is all I was paying, once they know that they will eventually relent and be quite happy about it. She was in HK as a DH and is in the clubs weekends only, consider the fact she is only paid just over $100 a day for up to 12hrs work then $500 is good money for an hour. She had a great little pussy which got nice and wet, she enjoyed it too![/QUOTE]Ah. The Indos of Wanchai. My favorite flavor! Well done for sticking to your price.

Thanks for the update on the current pay scale for HK's version of slave labor too. Even that price is still significantly higher than what these cheap local bastards pay here in Singapore. Would love to see every one of the D / Hs living here move straight to Hong Kong.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1249337]Also, for US citizens at least, the visa is multiple-entry for a year (about USD 100-125 with two or three weeks processing, but my experience was from the US; perhaps it is quicker in HK).[/QUOTE]Was just wondering about that, thanks for the info!

[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1249145]Vitamin C. Last month in HK I got a box of 4 for 360 HK. Random pharmacy in Northpoint.

Yesterday, picked up a box of 4 in Zhuhai China for 45 RMB[/QUOTE]I have never bought them in China simply because I do not trust they are real. You can also find them cheap across the border in Lo Wu.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Switched; 1249190]I think I just suprised myself, but you can always try ebay:

[url]http://www.ebay.com/sch/rxcreams/m.html[/url]

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Erection-erectile-yellow-weekend-36-hr-pills-ED-tablets-20-mg-sex-x-10-pills-/150748129065?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231949e729[/url]

Free shipping. 10 generic pills for $25 USD ($200 HKD)

Pretty good value. The pricing that you have been quoting, is that for Brand cialis or generics?[/QUOTE]Storesclaim that it is real Cialis and packaging looks believable, but again, this China and if they can make iPhone 4S with Android OS, they can make generic Cialis look like real one too. Those that I have bought in HK does the job when needed and once in a while even has the same side effect of those that I have bought with prescription in US.

Be safe,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Gratass65;1249263]Hi Thank for you comment. I have forgot one importan information! I have got my Viagra from my docktor. And I use only legal pills. And as my doctor said, NEVER trust any thing els than legal pills[/QUOTE]And did the same doctor approved of TWO tablets PLUS alcohol?

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1249337]Dongguan (check the thread) , perhaps? But I am unaware of a quick, hassle-free visa for most nationals. There is no quick deal there: you need the passport pix, application, and all. An expedited service of a few days might be possible at the consulate, but at an extra cost. Also, for US citizens at least, the visa is multiple-entry for a year (about USD 100-125 with two or three weeks processing, but my experience was from the US; perhaps it is quicker in HK).[/QUOTE]1) US Citizen applying in US may get a one-year multiple entry visa for China and it takes about a week.

2) US Citizen with HK I'd applying in HK may get a one-year multiple entry visa for China and it takes about 2 days.

3) US Citizen with frequent traveler pass applying in HK may get a six-month multiple entry visa for China and it takes about 2 days.

4) US Citizen visiting and applying in HK may get a six-month single or double entry visa for China and it takes about 2 days.

This had been more or less in effect since 2008.

I also do not know of any place in China that you can take a taxi and go to! You may take a van or train and go to CP (about an hour away with train) but you must know the place and be guided or speak Chinese. Check the China thread.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1249332]I hope it happens at the same time. Would be great, like getting a root canal and endoscopy done in one sitting. Just get it over with, the biggest collection of assholes (and I do refer more to the Sevens crowd) in and out.[/QUOTE]Will probably go to Singapore at this time.

It is a wild scene in HK during the Rugby 7's.

Wondered around Wanchai for a little while tonight.

Most bars had good crowds. But never seen so many guys and so few girls.

A good night for the ladies.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1249145]Vitamin C. Last month in HK I got a box of 4 for 360 HK. Random pharmacy in Northpoint.

Yesterday, picked up a box of 4 fake ones in Zhuhai China for 45 RMB[/QUOTE]Fixed your post

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1249407]Will probably go to Singapore at this time.

It is a wild scene in HK during the Rugby 7's.[/QUOTE]I used to live in Happy Valley and I fucking hated 7s time. Bunch of drunken gwailo retards wandering around hooting and hollering 24/7. Wednesdays (race day) sometimes had a bit of that but not nearly as bad.

Sometimes I understand why the Chinese think of us the way they do.

Was out and about today and suddenly decided on a quickie. Time was of the essence so I was limited to my surroundings, fortunately there is a building with several 141 girls at 119-125 Electric Road, Tin Hau. Unfortunately more than half did not seem to be working today. Knocked on all available doors and eventually settled for Lily who was the best of a bad bunch. Face not great, body not great, tits almost flat, but smiley girl with nice attitude and spoke passable English. Claimed to be from Shanghai. The experience was very routine except she did BBBJ and while fucking her doggy when I was ready to cum she turned around, I yanked off the condom and she let me CIM. It had been a few days and I had a pretty full load but she was a trooper and took it all in, too bad she did that Asian hacking it all back up into the wastebasket thing right afterward. The building is nasty and the girls nothing special, but CIM for $300 can't be beat.

[QUOTE=Apac Man; 1249380]1) US Citizen applying in US may get a one-year multiple entry visa

APAC Man[/QUOTE]Not sure which country the original poster hails from, but this great info. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1249408]Wondered around Wanchai for a little while tonight.

Most bars had good crowds. But never seen so many guys and so few girls.[/QUOTE]I met up with Chaos Theory last night (he is visiting from Singapore). We started in 109, then moved over to Handle Bar.

The streets did look quite bereft of ladies.

I staggered off home with a takeway (food) , but left CT to forage for a long haired takeaway. Maybe he will report later.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1249500]I met up with Chaos Theory last night (he is visiting from Singapore). We started in 109, then moved over to Handle Bar.

The streets did look quite bereft of ladies.

I staggered off home with a takeway (food) , but left CT to forage for a long haired takeaway. Maybe he will report later.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Have noticed that Handlebar is getting more customers!

[QUOTE=Apac Man; 1249380]1) US Citizen applying in US may get a one-year multiple entry visa for China and it takes about a week.

2) US Citizen with HK I'd applying in HK may get a one-year multiple entry visa for China and it takes about 2 days.

3) US Citizen with frequent traveler pass applying in HK may get a six-month multiple entry visa for China and it takes about 2 days.

4) US Citizen visiting and applying in HK may get a six-month single or double entry visa for China and it takes about 2 days.

This had been more or less in effect since 2008.

I also do not know of any place in China that you can take a taxi and go to! You may take a van or train and go to CP (about an hour away with train) but you must know the place and be guided or speak Chinese. Check the China thread.

Be Safe,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]Thanks for this. I shall soon qualify under category 2.

[QUOTE=Apac Man; 1249380]1) US Citizen applying in US may get a one-year multiple entry visa for China and it takes about a week.

2) US Citizen with HK I'd applying in HK may get a one-year multiple entry visa for China and it takes about 2 days.

3) US Citizen with frequent traveler pass applying in HK may get a six-month multiple entry visa for China and it takes about 2 days.

4) US Citizen visiting and applying in HK may get a six-month single or double entry visa for China and it takes about 2 days.

This had been more or less in effect since 2008.

I also do not know of any place in China that you can take a taxi and go to! You may take a van or train and go to CP (about an hour away with train) but you must know the place and be guided or speak Chinese. Check the China thread.

Be Safe,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]Sorry APAC Man, replying to your post as opposed to the original poster.

Use google and find the China foreign office in HK. Something with fm, co, p, r, c. G, o, v. Hk. (remove comma and spaces). More official info. You can get Shenzhen and Guangdong visas for those specific areas only. Group (and I use this term loosely) and individual are available. With China you can go anywhere but more scrutiny and often not necessary. Again use google to get more info.

Big international travel agencies (as well as local ones) can help you with difficult passports. You need time and shop around for a helpful person.

Unless you have US and UK docs, you used to just get a Shenzhen visa at the border on the spot at the train station. Not sure if you need to be HK resident but you should call and check. (Have done before with Filly on visa run with overnight in Sauna or hotel) Cars / buses with dual license plates can also drive you. Special transports available at the airport.

Guangdong gets you up to the party further north of the border.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1249407]It is a wild scene in HK during the Rugby 7's.[/QUOTE]Oh but why. They are generally safer than football fans and love to see them twirling and throwing little pretty things around like rugby balls.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1249920]Sorry APAC Man, replying to your post as opposed to the original poster.

Use google and find the China foreign office in HK. Something with fm, co, p, are, see. G, o, v. Hk. (remove comma and spaces). More official info. You can get Shenzhen and Guangdong visas for those specific areas only. Group (and I use this term loosely) and individual are available. With China you can go anywhere but more scrutiny and often not necessary. Again use google to get more info.

Big international travel agencies (as well as local ones) can help you with difficult passports. You need time and shop around for a helpful person.

Unless you have US and UK docs, you used to just get a Shenzhen visa at the border on the spot at the train station. Not sure if you need to be HK resident but you should call and check. (Have done before with Filly on visa run with overnight in Sauna or hotel) Cars / buses with dual license plates can also drive you. Special transports available at the airport.

Guangdong gets you up to the party further north of the border.

Oh but why. They are generally safer than football fans and love to see them twirling and throwing little pretty things around like rugby balls.[/QUOTE]Probably because many have been drinking at the rugby from lunchtime. Stagger into Wanchai / LKF at around 8pm. And a few collapse on the footpaths. What am I saying. Footpaths become the road during this time.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1249509]Have noticed that Handlebar is getting more customers![/QUOTE]It is indeed.

Friday night was very busy, late.

If you mean Saturday, it was a birthday party for one of our mates.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1249455]I used to live in Happy Valley and I fucking hated 7s time. Bunch of drunken gwailo retards wandering around hooting and hollering 24/7. Wednesdays (race day) sometimes had a bit of that but not nearly as bad.

Sometimes I understand why the Chinese think of us the way they do.[/QUOTE]I used to live in Happy Valley and I used to be the one of those self same drunken gweilo retards. My favourite party trick which my mates and I did for a few years after the 7s finished was to go to New China News Agency and make a urination statement against the re-integration of HK into China LOL. After a few years they caught on to the need to have extra security on 7s days. My sevens visits have long since finished, since when I took a weekend trip (starting on the Wednesday of course) from some asian city and found myself on the Monday am, checking out my wanchai hotel with no voice and about HK$16, 000 lighter. Not including air fare!

Does anyone know if the Garden View YWCA Hotel is GF?

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1250116]It is indeed.

Friday night was very busy, late.

If you mean Saturday, it was a birthday party for one of our mates.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Talking in general. Anyway good to see all the bars are sharing the load.

The Rendezvous Part 2.

I glance down at my watch. 7:50 pm. Unusually, I'm running early for a change. Time for a brief diversion in a bar where the size of the drinks is small and the prices are big.

I like it because its the kind of place where more is done rather than said. Wisdom follows sobriety however, and I leave prematurely with a hastily scribbled phone number, a date for a future encounter and passionate words whispered wetly in my ear. By the time the blood returns back to where it normally goes, I'm feeling good.

I'm suddenly thirsty so I descend the stairs in a place named after the king of the sea. With any luck I'll meet one of his mermaids later on, hopefully she doesn't have a tail, or something else dangling for that matter, either.

I'm reminded of a song by Billy Joel as one of the managers recognizes me, is quick with his latest joke and helps me light up my smoke, a rare indulgence for me in the city where the air is more toxic than the cigarette in my mouth. 'Fluck you, wai boy, ' he says good naturedly, as he smiles exposing tea stained teeth. After all, I got him out of a major jam a few years ago and he realizes that I am not going to extort him over it. He throws me another cigarette and puts a beer in my hand as he goes on with his rounds.

I glance back and as usual the porcelain doll brigade from Vietnam are lined up by the toilets. Impossibly beautiful, they love sex because it earns them money which they love more than anything. It's a simple equation, almost religious in it's devotion and sincerity, but there is nothing good or pious about these predators. I watch as they engulf a hapless suit on his way to the urinal and for a moment it's as though a school of piranha have stripped him to the bone, leaving nothing but his jacket and an empty wallet. Eventually he returns and drifts back towards the stage as the deejay finishes another round of Black Eyed Peas and Rihanna songs.

A group of geriatric and listless band members shuffle up on stage and begin some sort of improvised warm up with a semi blues feel to it. Unbelievably they are the same band that I saw almost 6 years ago, living proof that in some cases, practice doesn't make perfect.

I find myself longing for the crisp riffs and tight harmonies of some of the Philipino bands that used to play back in the day before the world moved on and fiscal crisis was a term you only heard in textbooks. Sadly, these guys just don't make the cut and one can only admire the management for their charity in letting them stay on for so long.

I scan the room again and I'm impressed with what I see, there are short skirts and long legs in abundance and not too many DOM around at this early stage of the night. No doubt they'll appear around 11, pissed up and full of intentions that outweigh their performance ratings.

As I finish my second beer I realize that this will not be my final port of call for the evening and decide to move on. There are still places to go and minds to blow.

To be continued.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1250204]I used to live in Happy Valley and I used to be the one of those self same drunken gweilo retards. My favourite party trick which my mates and I did for a few years after the 7s finished was to go to New China News Agency and make a urination statement against the re-integration of HK into China LOL. After a few years they caught on to the need to have extra security on 7s days. My sevens visits have long since finished, since when I took a weekend trip (starting on the Wednesday of course) from some asian city and found myself on the Monday am, checking out my wanchai hotel with no voice and about HK$16, 000 lighter. Not including air fare![/QUOTE]I am with you on the urination statement!

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1250204]My favourite party trick which my mates and I did for a few years after the 7s finished[/QUOTE]Ah. Sounds like a South Stand regular.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1250449]Ah. Sounds like a South Stand regular.[/QUOTE]And whilst this post has nothing whatsoever to do with sex, I remember one memorable year, when the stadium was the "old" stadium and lots of areas were uncovered, the heavens opened all day and 40, 000 people spent the day in wet cold conditions watching 7's players slide all over the pitch.

That was the only 7s where watching the game from the comfort of my apartment seemed the better option (having endured 6 hours of non stop rain, protected by a bin liner. LOL)

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1250542]I remember one memorable year, when the stadium was the "old" stadium and lots of areas were uncovered, the heavens opened all day and 40, 000 people spent the day in wet cold conditions watching 7's players slide all over the pitch.[/QUOTE]Remember it well, FF.

It was the last year at the old stadium. We had arrived at the ground at about 6am to get a "good" seat. Had out first jug of Steinlager (still sold those days at the ground) , at 0830, and were then onto bloody maries by lunch. All of this in non stop rain and cold weather. But was a lot younger then, of course. Would catch pneumonia and die if I did it now.

Cheers.

Last 3 days in Hong Kong was preety lame for me. Wong chao street is filled with bars but there only moto is grabbing money out of your pocket. 150 hkd per beer, lap dance 1000 hkd. Pretty expensive.

No nude dance bars nothing. All other nice lounge was filled with girls but cigrette smoke was nore than you can handle.

Disappointed with Hong Kong.

[QUOTE=Mreaton;1250214]Does anyone know if the Garden View YWCA Hotel is GF?[/QUOTE]You mean Garden Road, on the island side, rode running up to the Paek Tram? If so it should be OK, just look like you are a couple, the person who checks you in is most likely not there all day. Haven't stayed there in a long time, was with family, but looked rather mind your own business type place.

[QUOTE=Mreaton;1250214]Does anyone know if the Garden View YWCA Hotel is GF?[/QUOTE]Most hotels in HK are girl friendly.

Have to make sure that you know if key access is required for lift. And some hotels demand that you pick up your guest from the lobby.

A couple of hotels will ask the lady to register. Excelsior in Causeway Bay and Prudential Hotel in Jordan.

Anyone know of a ST hotel with a large bath tub?

Anyone know where you can buy cialis over the counter in Wan Chai?

[QUOTE=Muzz49;1250938]Anyone know where you can buy cialis over the counter in Wan Chai?[/QUOTE]Dude, RTFF before you post.

This has been a hot topic of discussion over the last week in this thread.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1250549]Remember it well, FF.

It was the last year at the old stadium. We had arrived at the ground at about 6am to get a "good" seat. Had out first jug of Steinlager (still sold those days at the ground) , at 0830, and were then onto bloody maries by lunch. All of this in non stop rain and cold weather. But was a lot younger then, of course. Would catch pneumonia and die if I did it now.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]What I didn't mention of course, was the state of the toilets on that same day. I remember standing in a lot of liquid (toilets were below then, and had to walk downstairs to access them), which could have been rainwater or whatever. I prefer to think it was rainwater but as always was so pissed, I couldn't really have cared then. Now it would soil my suede brogues. LOL.

[QUOTE=Muzz49;1250938]Anyone know where you can buy cialis over the counter in Wan Chai?[/QUOTE]It is next to impossible to buy Cialis anywhere in Hong Kong. Better bring a supply with you. Also thanks for bringing this subject up since it had never been discussed on this forum, especialy in the last few days.

[QUOTE=Nishu617; 1250604]Last 3 days in Hong Kong was preety lame for me. Wong chao street is filled with bars but there only moto is grabbing money out of your pocket. 150 hkd per beer, lap dance 1000 hkd. Pretty expensive.

No nude dance bars nothing. All other nice lounge was filled with girls but cigrette smoke was nore than you can handle.

Disappointed with Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]Wong chao street? Smoke filled bar? Are you sure you are in Hong Kong?

[QUOTE=Muzz49;1250938]Anyone know where you can buy cialis over the counter in Wan Chai?[/QUOTE]Third post?. Lazy? Suggest you read back a page or two. I just answered this last week!

Some funny posts today.

Best bet for bathtub is Beverley Hotel in Lockhart Road, Wanchai.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1251097]Some funny posts today.

Best bet for bathtub is Beverley Hotel in Lockhart Road, Wanchai.[/QUOTE]I was going to say he would be lucky if he gets a shower head over toilet seat at a ST hotel. I have been to a few in HK but I do not recall any with bathtub. But again, I am old and senile.

[QUOTE=Apac Man;1251123]I was going to say he would be lucky if he gets a shower head over toilet seat at a ST hotel. I have been to a few in HK but I do not recall any with bathtub. But again, I am old and senile.[/QUOTE]Beverley has an average sized bath. Probably best for one person.

Funny day.

Guy posting 3 times in a week asking for Cialis. Even though his question has been asked.

Another guy claiming to be in a street that doesn't exist in HK.

I know to read rtff but this just came together today, I have a 15 hour layover from 8:00 pm til 11:00 am. I would like some ideas on booking a room or taking the ferry to Macau and stay a night at a sauna. Not shore how easy it is to go from the airport to ferry terminal. Should I just book a hotel in Hong Kong and use an out call service.

Thank You to whom ever responds.

Horndog3

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1251163]Beverley has an average sized bath. Probably best for one person.

Funny day.

Guy posting 3 times in a week asking for Cialis. Even though his question has been asked.

Another guy claiming to be in a street that doesn't exist in HK.[/QUOTE]Actually if you are referring to my post. I have just asked the once. But thanks for all the help.

Do a google for ferry from Hong Kong airport to Macau, I think they may stop running very close to your arrival time, but no problem, just catch the 25 minute long tain ride into town, and take a fast ferry from there, you should be in Macau no later than 11. 00pm. If you are going midweek sometimes you can get a cheap hotel, try the Fortune Hotel, then you could also pick up at a disco afterwards. You can stay all night in the sauna, you sleep in a big easy chair, you can pay extra and get a room with abed sometimes, but the easy chair does not recline, you can have another girl each time you wake up, then catch a ferry back early in the morning. Ferry takes about one hour each way. Careful, the ferries even though they have radar etc will stop running at any feeble excuse like wind or rain, many HongKongers get stuck there overnight and have to camp in saunas. You should catch one of the early ferry back, book it in advance the night before.

[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1251216]I know to read rtff but this just came together today, I have a 15 hour layover from 8:00 pm til 11:00 am. I would like some ideas on booking a room or taking the ferry to Macau and stay a night at a sauna. Not shore how easy it is to go from the airport to ferry terminal. Should I just book a hotel in Hong Kong and use an out call service.

Thank You to whom ever responds.

Horndog3[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1251216]I know to read rtff but this just came together today, I have a 15 hour layover from 8:00 pm til 11:00 am. I would like some ideas on booking a room or taking the ferry to Macau and stay a night at a sauna. Not shore how easy it is to go from the airport to ferry terminal. Should I just book a hotel in Hong Kong and use an out call service.

Thank You to whom ever responds.

Horndog3[/QUOTE]If your layover is only 15 hours, I think I'd be staying in HK. It would be easier to do the overnight Macau trip if you are based in HK or staying in HK for a few days and wanted to duck there for a day, but for such a short stay, think I'd try Wanchai bars or TST instead.

[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1251216]I know to read rtff / from 8:00 pm til 11:00 am. I would like some ideas on booking a room or taking the ferry to Macau and stay a night at a sauna. Not shore how easy it is to go from the airport to ferry terminal. Should I just book a hotel in Hong Kong and use an out call service.[/QUOTE]IMHO, HK hotel safest.

Adding to AussieDoug, if you walk on the wild side, use google for Macau ferry chek lap kok. Basically 3 companies that operate ferry. Worst service and boats but best schedules (24 hour pretty much hourly service to HK town) is the old TurboJet. CoatiJet service is suspended Feb 23-29. Last TurboJet service is 2200. Given your tight schedule book seats. Remember your plane could be late so book last ferry and, if you miss, you lose the money. Downside if you do not book is that there are no seats available. I have never done from the airport but, from HK town, it used to be that you can go standby on a later or earlier ferry. You should call and check. Or you can just wing it with no reservations and book everything once you arrive.

TurboJet goes to the main area of Macau while the other ones go Taipa where new casinos are located. If you head to HK town, not sure if the travel agencies at Shun Tak Centre are open whereby you can book a suana, round trip pickup, ferry ticket all in one go. Best overall. Remember you will need to do HK and Macau border crossings when going through HK town. From airport, I believe it is like transiting whereby you will go through a secure area and shuttled to Macau and only have to clear Macau immigration. (I am usually running past the Ferry signage to beat the travelers to the immigration lines!)

Some HK short term hotels do overnight rates or half day rates. Not very secure but a place to hang out.

You should read the macau section.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1250907]Anyone know of a ST hotel with a large bath tub?[/QUOTE]RTFF, someone mentioned a hotel that offered half day rates with jacuzzi at 2A or after midnight. Never tried but can confirm that hotel and jacuzzi do exist.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1249500]I met up with Chaos Theory last night (he is visiting from Singapore). We started in 109, then moved over to Handle Bar.

The streets did look quite bereft of ladies.

I staggered off home with a takeway (food) , but left CT to forage for a long haired takeaway. Maybe he will report later.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hi there UG, was good to catch up and meet your friends.

Foraging was good.

Last Friday night saw me find a indonesian spinner (#1) in New Makati. Not a bad girl, v active and HKD 1, 000 for the night (she asked for $1500 and I laughed). Saturday, after beers at Handle Bar, then went on a bit of a tour. As ever ended up at NM and found another little Indo (#2) who the night before had not been very receptive but on this night was all smiles. Another all nighter.

Sunday I was at 109 by 12. 30. Great place and by 1pm had an indonesian DH friend (#3) for the afternoon. I was intending to try and visit a few bars but she was insistent we stay at hotel for multiple rounds till about 5. 30. Bid her farewell (HKD500 tip though I did doubt her DH credentials) , tidied the room and headed back out. Quick look at Neptune 2. Packed with filipinas but generally older and many with bigger guts than mine! Abandoned and headed to Forest. Much better, more Indonesian, but getting late by now for DH hunting. Had on girl interested in coming back at about 7. 30 for a quick one when her "sister" dragged her off and said she had to go home. Got her number for next time. Went out to get something to eat then hitched up with the girl (#2) from the previous night again. I had to get up early so when she left at about 6am just gave her HKD500 and she seemed ok. Agreed to meet me Tuesday because I had to go to China for a couple of days.

Tuesday night went out, was in NM waiting for my new friend (#2) when a filipina I know from Singapore walked in. Starting chatting to her when #2 walked in and got a bit pissy about it with me. Told her not to worry, I wouldn't be seeing her again. Who needs stroppy bar girls. Went back to hotel with filipina and then back to Singapore in the morning.

See you next time Goober.

CT

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1251400]IMHO, HK hotel safest.

Basically 3 companies that operate ferry. Worst service and boats but best schedules (24 hour pretty much hourly service to HK town) is the old TurboJet. CoatiJet service is suspended Feb 23-29. Last TurboJet service is 2200.

TurboJet goes to the main area of Macau while the other ones go Taipa where new casinos are located.

From airport, I believe it is like transiting whereby you will go through a secure area and shuttled to Macau and only have to clear Macau immigration.[/QUOTE]There is also First Ferry servicing Macau main area, same as Turbojet.

I used Turbojet only and more than fair, for the 60' trip.

About transfer from HKIA to Macau a lot can be read in the Macau section. Seamless

[QUOTE=Nishu617; 1250604]Last 3 days in Hong Kong was preety lame for me. Wong chao street is filled with bars but there only moto is grabbing money out of your pocket. 150 hkd per beer, lap dance 1000 hkd. Pretty expensive.

No nude dance bars nothing. All other nice lounge was filled with girls but cigrette smoke was nore than you can handle.

Disappointed with Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]Obviously you didn't RTFF because you would have found what you were looking for it you knew where to find it.

In fact I think this is a dupe. GTFO

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1250655]You mean Garden Road, on the island side, rode running up to the Paek Tram? If so it should be OK, just look like you are a couple, the person who checks you in is most likely not there all day. Haven't stayed there in a long time, was with family, but looked rather mind your own business type place.[/QUOTE]YMCA and YWCA are more like hostels. They are the only places that are not GF. You can probably get a girl in there but it's more trouble than any other place.

[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1251216]I know to read rtff but this just came together today, I have a 15 hour layover from 8:00 pm til 11:00 am. I would like some ideas on booking a room or taking the ferry to Macau and stay a night at a sauna. Not shore how easy it is to go from the airport to ferry terminal. Should I just book a hotel in Hong Kong and use an out call service.

Thank You to whom ever responds.

Horndog3[/QUOTE]You can take a ferry to Macau directly from the airport.

Outcall service may be best for you if you are unfamiliar with HK but in general I'd avoid them as you never really know what you're going to get and they are very expensive.

What day is your layover? What are you looking for exactly?

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1251163]Beverley has an average sized bath. Probably best for one person.

Funny day.

Guy posting 3 times in a week asking for Cialis. Even though his question has been asked.

Another guy claiming to be in a street that doesn't exist in HK.[/QUOTE]There are a few rooms in Mingle Place (Wellington St) with jacuzzi. Not sure about the one on Wan Chai Road.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1251004]What I didn't mention of course, was the state of the toilets on that same day. I remember standing in a lot of liquid. LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=FreebieFan;1250542]And whilst this post has nothing whatsoever to do with sex, (having endured 6 hours of non stop rain, protected by a bin liner. LOL)[/QUOTE]IMHO, you needed two bin liners.

To bring the thread back on point, it was at one of these events where I noticed the guy standing next to me was jacking off. WTF. The bars are lined with willing female recipients after the game. Some are too proud to go to a ST hotel but are willing in the toilet stall. This was before the bouncers got wise and started checking the toilets every 10 minutes. Plenty of ladies rubbing your back and hands with their boobs.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1251523]You can take a ferry to Macau directly from the airport.

Outcall service may be best for you if you are unfamiliar with HK but in general I'd avoid them as you never really know what you're going to get and they are very expensive.

What day is your layover? What are you looking for exactly?[/QUOTE]Do you think that an outcall would be more expensive than travelling to Macau when you add in ferries, taxis, saunas etc.

Think it would be similar. But without the hassle of travel.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1251537]Do you think that an outcall would be more expensive than travelling to Macau when you add in ferries, taxis, saunas etc.

Think it would be similar. But without the hassle of travel.[/QUOTE]For me, the sore and achy muscles do better if there is a hot soapy massage and bath on top. Just MHO. I would assume the posters biggest challenge will be staying awake so the HK hotel is a better and safer option.

Might I add that the arrival services are great around the world. So try to chat up a fellow traveler of the opposite sex or travel with your own.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1251523]You can take a ferry to Macau directly from the airport.

Outcall service may be best for you if you are unfamiliar with HK but in general I'd avoid them as you never really know what you're going to get and they are very expensive.

What day is your layover? What are you looking for exactly?[/QUOTE]Saturday March 10th at 8:00 pm until Sunday at 11:00 am.

I'm just looking for 1 more boom boom before I'm back in the land of you can't go to a massage parlor or pick up a streetwalker and you have to hand in your cock to the customs agent at the airport.

Don't have a room yet. Is it best to get a room in Kowloon or Wanchai.

[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1251577]Saturday March 10th at 8:00 pm until Sunday at 11:00 am.

I'm just looking for 1 more boom boom before I'm back in the land of you can't go to a massage parlor or pick up a streetwalker and you have to hand in your cock to the customs agent at the airport.

Don't have a room yet. Is it best to get a room in Kowloon or Wanchai.[/QUOTE]Wanchai is the best solution as you are nearby the action of the bars where you can pick up a LT late at night, have more than 1 boom-boom and leave the hotel at breakfast time to go to HKIA

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1251521]YMCA and YWCA are more like hostels. They are the only places that are not GF. You can probably get a girl in there but it's more trouble than any other place.[/QUOTE]The Garden Road Y is more like serviced apartments, it has a braekfast room and not much else.

[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1251577]Saturday March 10th at 8:00 pm until Sunday at 11:00 am.

I'm just looking for 1 more boom boom before I'm back in the land of you can't go to a massage parlor or pick up a streetwalker and you have to hand in your cock to the customs agent at the airport.

Don't have a room yet. Is it best to get a room in Kowloon or Wanchai.[/QUOTE]I do this many times, arrive even later than 8pm, and depart next morning at 9am, get a room in Wanchai, Wharney Hotel or near there and go for it, Neptune is probably the quickest pick up spot, followed by New Makati IMHO.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1251667]I do this many times, arrive even later than 8pm, and depart next morning at 9am, get a room in Wanchai, Wharney Hotel or near there and go for it, Neptune is probably the quickest pick up spot, followed by New Makati IMHO.[/QUOTE]Kinda have the same dilemma, got the same questions. How far away is wanchai from the airport in travel times, can I leave my stuff in the hotel after check out (concierge)? How much does a room normally cost and how much is LT.

P. S. Purchased subscription but haven't been activated yet so no PMs

Yes, CT, Neptune II is certainly looking like the Star Wars cantina, except that Neptune II's band sucks worse. I stopped in last night (Fri) and it was filled with a really sad collection, worse than the week before (and I had complained about that as well). Probably the most attractive women in there at midnight-ish were two porcelain dolls with their hair up, bigger girls as they go. One had a very cute face, dimples, but was incredibly top heavy, not my thing. I mean, to the point where it seemed she had a hard time standing up straight. Her associate, who has bangs (my fetish, go figure) approached me as I did my normal stand against the wall with my beer routine. Very aggressive, as many of the Neptune II women are. I laughed at her HKD 2K and she quickly said she was open to a counter-offer. As I wasn't interested I did not pursue. Funny thing is that she claimed to be Chinese, from outside Beijing, but could not understand me when I used some basic Mandarin. Now, my tones generally suck, but I have never had a Chinese person not understand such basics as "ni dou the?" (how old are you?)"ni jiao shenme mingzi" (name) , etc. I suspect she's a Viet, as if that's more desirable to punters? I couldn't quite figure it. I'll continue to pop into to Nep for a quick look-see, but will prolly avoid their overpriced beers unless things look up there. And as CT alluded to, the hookers ought to be paying the punters.

I checked out Traffik, which had some lovely Filipinas sitting at the bar. One 28 year old WG was enticing but I really wasn't interested at that stage of the evening. She said that she has to "accept" the client, whatever, darling. If that means you're not a WG and you feel better about it. Anyhow, she still danced and gave pleasant conversation (I regaled her with tales of my experiences with Angeles City "cherry girls"). Funny.

From there it was New Makati, which was just jumping with enthusiastic Indos and Filis. A refreshing change from Neptune. Save for some cute, but obviously using girls to the left of the entrance (staring into space) I would rate the positive vibe as an 8 on a 10-point scale, and the girls really try to get us geezers out on the dance floor. Nice. I pulled a 33 year ld DH, paid $800 (I know, I know, shoulda been $500. Don't even bother to point it out guys). But it was LT and a very good experience with a girl who gave the most enthusiastic BJ I have EVER had, CIM and all. Anyway, I have changed my hit parade in Wan Chai.

And a postscript: Tooled around Kowloon to check hobby options. Sand sauna charges about 900 for 45 min straight massage / 45 min F / S; The places south of Dundas are no. W asking $509 for 90 minutes f / s (I think this is up $100 from just last year). Interesting development was the abundance of streetwalkers at the Temple Street market (south of the ornate gate). There were about five on the block as of 2:30 pm One quoted $500 (I doubt that included a short-term room, but dunno as I did not buy). Most of them were attractive enough, certainly better than what Nep has on offer (and in the daylight you can see what you are getting). Two younger looking ones (legal I presumed, perhaps 19-22 ish) flat out said "no" when all I did was look in their direction. Shit, I have that look about me. Have got to change my ways. Still, it is irritating to get that discrimination. But a few minutes later, after looking at a pirate-porno DVD shop was propositioned by two others, so all was right with the world again.

I am replying to my own post, just so I am not corrected by all the language masters here (and I have seen some of you in action in Dongguan. You have a way with words with the laydeeez.)

[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1251577]Saturday March 10th at 8:00 pm until Sunday at 11:00 am.[/QUOTE]You have plenty of time to read the Hong Kong and Macau forums and make a judgement call. Things do change.

For example, its been a while since I went to Forest but last Sunday the place was overflowing with people from the subcontinent. Do not remember it being like that.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1251564]For me, the sore and achy muscles do better if there is a hot soapy massage and bath on top. Just MHO. I would assume the posters biggest challenge will be staying awake so the HK hotel is a better and safer option.

Might I add that the arrival services are great around the world. So try to chat up a fellow traveler of the opposite sex or travel with your own.[/QUOTE]I have been complimented on my massages.

Must be the Java magic hands.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1251700]You have plenty of time to read the Hong Kong and Macau forums and make a judgement call. Things do change.

For example, its been a while since I went to Forest but last Sunday the place was overflowing with people from the subcontinent. Do not remember it being like that.[/QUOTE]Forest the old laguna has always had a number of guys from the sub-continent.

Go to Neptune 3 and it is overflowing.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1251682]Yes, CT, Neptune II is certainly looking like the Star Wars cantina, except that Neptune II's band sucks worse. I stopped in last night (Fri) and it was filled with a really sad collection, worse than the week before (and I had complained about that as well). Probably the most attractive women in there at midnight-ish were two porcelain dolls with their hair up, bigger girls as they go. One had a very cute face, dimples, but was incredibly top heavy, not my thing. I mean, to the point where it seemed she had a hard time standing up straight. Her associate, who has bangs (my fetish, go figure) approached me as I did my normal stand against the wall with my beer routine. Very aggressive, as many of the Neptune II women are. I laughed at her HKD 2K and she quickly said she was open to a counter-offer. As I wasn't interested I did not pursue. Funny thing is that she claimed to be Chinese, from outside Beijing, but could not understand me when I used some basic Mandarin. Now, my tones generally suck, but I have never had a Chinese person not understand such basics as "ni dou the?" (how old are you?)"ni jiao shenme mingzi" (name) , etc. I suspect she's a Viet, as if that's more desirable to punters? I couldn't quite figure it. I'll continue to pop into to Nep for a quick look-see, but will prolly avoid their overpriced beers unless things look up there. And as CT alluded to, the hookers ought to be paying the punters.

I checked out Traffik, which had some lovely Filipinas sitting at the bar. One 28 year old WG was enticing but I really wasn't interested at that stage of the evening. She said that she has to "accept" the client, whatever, darling. If that means you're not a WG and you feel better about it. Anyhow, she still danced and gave pleasant conversation (I regaled her with tales of my experiences with Angeles City "cherry girls"). Funny.

From there it was New Makati, which was just jumping with enthusiastic Indos and Filis. A refreshing change from Neptune. Save for some cute, but obviously using girls to the left of the entrance (staring into space) I would rate the positive vibe as an 8 on a 10-point scale, and the girls really try to get us geezers out on the dance floor. Nice. I pulled a 33 year ld DH, paid $800 (I know, I know, shoulda been $500. Don't even bother to point it out guys). But it was LT and a very good experience with a girl who gave the most enthusiastic BJ I have EVER had, CIM and all. Anyway, I have changed my hit parade in Wan Chai.

And a postscript: Tooled around Kowloon to check hobby options. Sand sauna charges about 900 for 45 min straight massage / 45 min F / S; The places south of Dundas are no. W asking $509 for 90 minutes f / s (I think this is up $100 from just last year). Interesting development was the abundance of streetwalkers at the Temple Street market (south of the ornate gate). There were about five on the block as of 2:30 pm One quoted $500 (I doubt that included a short-term room, but dunno as I did not buy). Most of them were attractive enough, certainly better than what Nep has on offer (and in the daylight you can see what you are getting). Two younger looking ones (legal I presumed, perhaps 19-22 ish) flat out said "no" when all I did was look in their direction. Shit, I have that look about me. Have got to change my ways. Still, it is irritating to get that discrimination. But a few minutes later, after looking at a pirate-porno DVD shop was propositioned by two others, so all was right with the world again.[/QUOTE]Good info, thanks. Nice to be able to narrow down my search to New Makati straight off the bat. Also great recon on Temple Street. Last time I was there (a month or so ago) it was pretty desolate, but then perhaps my timing was off.

I'm still bent on giving Victoria Park a try on a Sunday and the Filipina-dominated mall in Central. Have had wonderful success here in Singapore at similar venues so I'm anxious to make a go of it once I relocate to Hongkers.

Just had a young lady whom I had contacted on a local message board ask me if I would pay for 'enjo kosai' or 'enko'. Interesting to see that particular phenomenon has migrated from Japan, even with the same name, to Hong Kong. Unfortunately, she looked really too young in the picture. I told her this and she replied that she has many friends who [I]'look [/I]older'. Ehhh. That's not the point my dear. LOL!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1251723]I have been complimented on my massages.

Must be the Java magic hands.[/QUOTE]I'll take you up on that in 16 days!

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1251752]Just had a young lady whom I had contacted on a local message board ask me if I would pay for 'enjo kosai' or 'enko'. ![/QUOTE]And 'enjo kosai' or 'enko' is?

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1251756]And 'enjo kosai' or 'enko' is?[/QUOTE]Jap twist on P4P. Usually students. Have one lined up in HK but much older than Edison's squeeze.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1251723]I have been complimented on my massages. Must be the Java magic hands.[/QUOTE]Very tempted but I have found that the best girls do not give the best massages. Sorry, its meant to be a compliment on your main activity! But add in a soapy / slippery one with a hot wash, it makes one sleep like a baby afterwards.

As an aside from reading about people asking whether the Y is girl friendly, why don't they also try the rooms at the Wanchai Morman Temple. If you are going to push the limits, why not go all the way. Po Lin also has rooms. As does Disney but those are out of the way.

Wild hawk.

You were lucky to get a LT for $800.

$500 is the standard Sunday price for a short time.

Now you will have a few guys scratching their heads!

[QUOTE=Boomer085; 1251679]Kinda have the same dilemma, got the same questions. How far away is wanchai from the airport in travel times, can I leave my stuff in the hotel after check out (concierge)? How much does a room normally cost and how much is LT.

The train from the airport takes 25 minutes into the island station, end of line, take a cab from there to your hotel. Hotel prices vary with season, cheap in February because it rains so much, not so expensive in summer, too hot nobody comes, the only one I have seen consistently cheap is "Mingles on the Park", it's nowhere near a park, it's a converted shophouse, but at 800HKD a night it is OK, but sometimes Whartney and others can be that and they are closer. Never tried leaving stuff at Mingles, but no problem with any other usual hotel. Until the last year or so I was getting 6/10 fillies for 1, 000 LT, but theys eem to have got dearer, I paid a 9/10 2, 000 LT for bareback and stay all day after.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1251756]And 'enjo kosai' or 'enko' is?[/QUOTE]The Japanese term for 'compensated dating'. Normally refers to schoolgirls looking to make money for shopping.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1251912]Wild hawk.

You were lucky to get a LT for $800.

$500 is the standard Sunday price for a short time.

Now you will have a few guys scratching their heads![/QUOTE]Well, gee Chantik, I'll take that as a compliment (since just about every other reply to one of my posts has been a complaint that I'm spoiling the market, LOL). Maybe I did even better as the great deal came on a Friday night. Since I have your attention, though, I do wonder about the Indonesian WG / DH mindset. There was a bit of a mini-drama at New Makati (unbeknownst to me at the time) when the Indonesian girl (DH or full-time WG, you decide) I had pulled a week before (this was the 1. 5K one that I had been chided about for overpaying) confronted my lady, telling her that she was dancing with her "customer" and that in her magnanimity would allow her to dance with me or somesuch. This had apparently upset my lass that she was pulling away from me. When she did explain what was going on, I went to the younger one. (aaaand boy did that girl look fine, completely different look than the week before so I had hardly recognized her; instead of the qipao and hair all done up, she had it down long, smart jacket and tight blue jeans. Nice. But as she is a presumptious little beeeeyotch for having hassled my, er,"date" I felt a little upraiding was in order. I told her that, no I was no longer her "customer" and that she had no business even talking to the new one. As I doubt she had a clue as to what I was talking about, I left her to her own devices, namely playing with her fucking cellphone. It was a rather odd phenomenon, though. So to the question, Chantik: What was the mindset here? Do these girls really think that we are anything but players. As they are?

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1251995]Well, gee Chantik, I'll take that as a compliment (since just about every other reply to one of my posts has been a complaint that I'm spoiling the market, LOL). Maybe I did even better as the great deal came on a Friday night. Since I have your attention, though, I do wonder about the Indonesian WG / DH mindset. There was a bit of a mini-drama at New Makati (unbeknownst to me at the time) when the Indonesian girl (DH or full-time WG, you decide) I had pulled a week before (this was the 1. 5K one that I had been chided about for overpaying) confronted my lady, telling her that she was dancing with her "customer" and that in her magnanimity would allow her to dance with me or somesuch. This had apparently upset my lass that she was pulling away from me. When she did explain what was going on, I went to the younger one. (aaaand boy did that girl look fine, completely different look than the week before so I had hardly recognized her; instead of the qipao and hair all done up, she had it down long, smart jacket and tight blue jeans. Nice. But as she is a presumptious little beeeeyotch for having hassled my, er,"date" I felt a little upraiding was in order. I told her that, no I was no longer her "customer" and that she had no business even talking to the new one. As I doubt she had a clue as to what I was talking about, I left her to her own devices, namely playing with her fucking cellphone. It was a rather odd phenomenon, though. So to the question, Chantik: What was the mindset here? Do these girls really think that we are anything but players. As they are?[/QUOTE]Girls can be jealous creatures!

Possibly because you paid her 1500. She may have enjoyed the sex. You may have treated her nicely. She may not have regular customers. So she may have mistakenly thought you would only be at Makati cause of her. It is a silly thought cause if you were really interested you would have made phone contact for a meeting.

It is common for girls to threaten other girls not too touch their guy. And sometimes the girls listen.

It's never an issue for me.

I can differentiate between a customer and a boyfriend. Some girls can't.

Hooking is a competitive business. And some of the girls at Makati don't have regular customers. And many of the escorts on various websites can be seen night after night at bars, cause they can't make a living from the internet.

So you have seen this DH / WL the last 2 fridays. See her next Friday. And she is definitely not an employed D / H.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1252042]So you have seen this DH / WL the last 2 fridays. See her next Friday. And she is definitely not an employed D / H.[/QUOTE]Hm. Hm. This is probably not the rule but I knew of at least one girl who has Fridays off. I think the family got wise to her Sunday outings so switched her day off. Being a resourceful gal, some of her Sunday mates are meeting her on Fridays! Some DH gals go out late at night or make extended marketing trips. Easier if they live out.

Hi guys,

I'm just hoping for a bit of friendly advice.

I'm heading to HK for business shortly and will be staying for a week in Central district. I know most of the action is over in Kowloon but I have to stay Central for proximity to my client.

In any case, I'm far from an experienced punter and I'm not looking for FS, just wondering if anyone could point me towards some decent massage places in Central. I prefer a decent massage with maybe some light hand or oral relief and that's it. Not interested in anything full on.

I've seen some places advertising to send girls to your room but I've always been a bit reluctant to have anyone in my room, plus the Hotel is fairly decent and I'm not sure what type of view they take on that.

Any advice much appreciated for this newby traveller.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1252042]Girls can be jealous creatures!

So you have seen this DH / WL the last 2 fridays. See her next Friday. And she is definitely not an employed D / H.[/QUOTE]It was a Thursday and a Friday one week later. Methinks the younger one is more of a hooker than a D / H, whereas the older one, whose disposition I prefer, is more of a D / H than a hooker, but if it walks like a duck. Or likes to fuck. I will probably see the older one, a sweet Javanese beauty, for dinner or a daytrip, maybe not necessarily even do the deed (s) , as I expressed to her that I was not interested in paying and paying. And as I am moving into a flat that is two blocks away from her boarding house (said it's near the Wanchai Fire Station in CB. I joked about her being a firefighter) that "in case of emergency, break glass" fire alarm is always at hand.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1252042]So you have seen this DH / WL the last 2 fridays. See her next Friday. And she is definitely not an employed D / H.[/QUOTE]Which begs the next point, qhat questions / traits differentiate WL's from DH's? Are these solely split by the venue you choose? Or are there other questions that you are better off asking to verify whether one is a WG or DH.

I'm assuming that if a lady is offering overnights, she has no curfew and it is safe to assume you have a WL. Is this correct?

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1252161]It was a Thursday and a Friday one week later. Methinks the younger one is more of a hooker than a D / H, whereas the older one, whose disposition I prefer, is more of a D / H than a hooker, but if it walks like a duck. Or likes to fuck. I will probably see the older one, a sweet Javanese beauty, for dinner or a daytrip, maybe not necessarily even do the deed (s) , as I expressed to her that I was not interested in paying and paying. And as I am moving into a flat that is two blocks away from her boarding house (said it's near the Wanchai Fire Station in CB. I joked about her being a firefighter) that "in case of emergency, break glass" fire alarm is always at hand.[/QUOTE]Good luck converting her from part time hooker to girlfriend, unless you promise to marry her.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1252129]Hm. Hm. This is probably not the rule but I knew of at least one girl who has Fridays off. I think the family got wise to her Sunday outings so switched her day off. Being a resourceful gal, some of her Sunday mates are meeting her on Fridays! Some DH gals go out late at night or make extended marketing trips. Easier if they live out.[/QUOTE]I am trying to convince you guys.

Go to Escape chat to the Indo's. They will all tell you they have a day job.

And the same girls go out night after night but still work as helpers 70hrs per week.

They must be superwomen!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1252294]I am trying to convince you guys.

And the same girls go out night after night but still work as helpers 70hrs per week.

They must be superwomen![/QUOTE]I defer to your expertise.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1252161]And as I am moving into a flat[/QUOTE]Your location information spot on.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1251530]IMHO, you needed two bin liners.

To bring the thread back on point, it was at one of these events where I noticed the guy standing next to me was jacking off. WTF. The bars are lined with willing female recipients after the game. Some are too proud to go to a ST hotel but are willing in the toilet stall. This was before the bouncers got wise and started checking the toilets every 10 minutes. Plenty of ladies rubbing your back and hands with their boobs.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the white chicks? They're normally too bitchy to fuck for free and too proud to fuck for money. Maybe the 7s is good for something after all.

I would like to say thank you to all that have responded to my early post. I just booked a night at the Nathan hotel. It looks like K-Pressure is in walking distance. Tyred to look up 141 girls in that area but not sure how far from the hotel they are.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1252390]Are you talking about the white chicks? They're normally too bitchy to fuck for free and too proud to fuck for money. Maybe the 7s is good for something after all.[/QUOTE]A rainbow of colors and everyone is well lubricated.

[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1252406]I would like to say thank you to all that have responded to my early post. I just booked a night at the Nathan hotel. It looks like K-Pressure is in walking distance. Tyred to look up 141 girls in that area but not sure how far from the hotel they are.[/QUOTE]Nice hotel. I have been there often. Lots of 141 places within a few minutes walk as is K-Pressure and 37 Dundas. Plenty SW's in Temple St which is more or less just over the road.

[QUOTE=LuSiD; 1252135]Hi guys,

I'm just hoping for a bit of friendly advice.

I'm heading to HK for business shortly and will be staying for a week in Central district. I know most of the action is over in Kowloon but I have to stay Central for proximity to my client.

In any case, I'm far from an experienced punter and I'm not looking for FS, just wondering if anyone could point me towards some decent massage places in Central. I prefer a decent massage with maybe some light hand or oral relief and that's it. Not interested in anything full on.

I've seen some places advertising to send girls to your room but I've always been a bit reluctant to have anyone in my room, plus the Hotel is fairly decent and I'm not sure what type of view they take on that.

Any advice much appreciated for this newby traveller.[/QUOTE]The most obvious available spot is Wanchai, a stone's throw from where you will be staying, unless you are down near the Macau ferry pier. The hotel will not bat an eyelid at what you do, and they are very good at looking at the floor when someone crosses the floor to the lifts. If you just want a hand job or blowie some of the hostess bars will provide on site service surprisingly cheap if you buy one or two drinks.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1252259]Which begs the next point, qhat questions / traits differentiate WL's from DH's? Are these solely split by the venue you choose? Or are there other questions that you are better off asking to verify whether one is a WG or DH.

I'm assuming that if a lady is offering overnights, she has no curfew and it is safe to assume you have a WL. Is this correct?[/QUOTE]Correct. Nearly all D / Hs have curfews and most of them are allowed out on their own only on Sundays. If she is offering to go with you overnight, she most definitely is not a D / H.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1252259]Which begs the next point, qhat questions / traits differentiate WL's from DH's? Are these solely split by the venue you choose? Or are there other questions that you are better off asking to verify whether one is a WG or DH.

I'm assuming that if a lady is offering overnights, she has no curfew and it is safe to assume you have a WL. Is this correct?[/QUOTE]Let me break it down for you.

Filipina's. Here in HK on 2 to 4 week tourist visas. Working girls. May find the odd overstay girl. D / H tend to dress like D / H.

Africans. From Kenya etc usually have 4 week visas. Working girls.

South Americans. Usually get three visas. Often have limited English. Working girls.

Vietnamese. One week visa's. Working girls.

Indonesians. Girls that you see night after night. Working girls. Minimum 80% are overstay. Remainder have be'FS or paid money to get a D / H visa. You get the odd girl who has a weeks holiday because their employer is away.

I am talking about the regular bars in Wanchai such as Makati, Neptune 2 and 3, Forest, Escape etc.

One trick used by local residents. Is the hand test. If the girl's hand is a bit rough. That means she is or has been a D / H, smooth hands mean she is not a D / H.

Think that if you meet girls in Wanchai expect money to change hands.

Many other places to meet girls in HK.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1252675]One trick used by local residents. Is the hand test. If the girl's hand is a bit rough. That means she is or has been a D / H, smooth hands mean she is not a D / H.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip and very informative post.

Was talking to a coworker who visits regularly. He suggests being on 'undy watch". If they are wearing G-Strings, they are probably hookers, if they are wearing breifs they are probably D / H's.

And yes, he was generalising and he was talking tongue in cheek, but interesting perspective nonetheless.

Hi Everyone, is there any recommended place for outcalls in Causeway Bay or in the region. Any nos or welcome.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1252887]Thanks for the tip and very informative post.

Was talking to a coworker who visits regularly. He suggests being on 'undy watch". If they are wearing G-Strings, they are probably hookers, if they are wearing breifs they are probably D / H's.

And yes, he was generalising and he was talking tongue in cheek, but interesting perspective nonetheless.[/QUOTE]You see a few of the D / H on a Sunday wearing G Strings.

Probably need to pay the Sunday fee.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1252887]Thanks for the tip and very informative post.

Was talking to a coworker who visits regularly. He suggests being on 'undy watch". If they are wearing G-Strings, they are probably hookers, if they are wearing breifs they are probably D / H's.

And yes, he was generalising and he was talking tongue in cheek, but interesting perspective nonetheless.[/QUOTE]Haha. Actually, I've seen quite a few verified D / Hs who flaunt G-strings on their days off.

[QUOTE=Jacky1973;1252968]Hi Everyone, is there any recommended place for outcalls in Causeway Bay or in the region. Any nos or welcome.[/QUOTE]Internet site ******. Will find lots of 141 girls in CWB.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1249314]Apparently Navy coming to Hk in March.

Date continues to change.

Imagine if they come the same time as the Rugby 7's.[/QUOTE]Word on street is Navy arrive in HK on 19th.

That is indeed the same week as the rugby crowd is here. The rugby crowd starts to build up from Mon / Tues and through the 10s mid-week to the Sevens starting on the Friday evening.

Should be an absolute zoo that week!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1253161]Word on street is Navy arrive in HK on 19th.

That is indeed the same week as the rugby crowd is here. The rugby crowd starts to build up from Mon / Tues and through the 10s mid-week to the Sevens starting on the Friday evening.

Should be an absolute zoo that week!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Thank God I am going to Singapore 19 to 23 March.

Rugby starts to kick off from the 21st.

Should be a small crossover.

Ran into my old friend "Uncle" last time I was in Wanchai. Some of you may have been fortunate enough to have met him as well. He is proud to consider himself the oldest taxi driver in Wanchai at 76 years old. He has the kindly face of a grandfather, speaks flawless English and remembers the days of the British administration fondly. At 5'0", he needs a booster cushion when he drives, but he knows Hong Kong like the back of his hand. The first time I met him, I had the presence of mind to treat him with respect and tip him generously. In return he gave me his number and told me to call him anytime I needed a ride. Since then he has been a reliable driver and more importantly a very valuable font of knowledge, showing me bars, clubs and places to party I never even knew existed. If you are lucky enough to meet him, treat him well and you won't regret it.

I enjoy a eating nice, tasty, clean pusssy, almost as much as I enjoy getting a BBJ.

For those of you with similar tastes, here are some thoughts on the subject, especially in conjucntion with D / H (domestic helpers).

As Chantik, our priceless fountain of knowledge, tells us, the majority of D / H in HK have their day off on Sundays, with a curfew on Sunday evening. By "sleeping over at a friend's boarding house", they additionally gain Saturday nights for their activities.

That makes the time between Saturday night late and Sunday evening the only opportunity, when these ladies can make something on the side, to supplement their meager wages, apparently around HKD 1700.

The current D / H rate on Sunday seems to be HKD 500 and on Saturday night around HKD 1000.

That means, that each week on their day off, our D / H angels go to a kind of fucking overdrive mode (pun intended) , and turn as many tricks as they possibly can before the Sunday evening curfew forces them to give their pussies a rest.

By doing 4-5 of us each Sunday (and maybe another one on Saturday night) , they can easily hike their monthly income by 400% or 500% or more. Chantik may correct me on those numbers, but I am sure you all get the general idea.

Now before you oral freaks think of indulging in this sea of pussy, you should perhaps visualize, that that juicy C*U*N*T you are about to attack with your tongue, was probably occupied by some guy's dick just an hour beforehand.

And the pussy juice you will be lapping up is quite likely actually the guy's semen, given the D / H's affection for BBFS.

I hope, I am not spoiling your fun, but personally I'll think twice before eating pussy in HK on Sundays.

[QUOTE=Lewis And Clark;1253354]Ran into my old friend "Uncle" last time I was in Wanchai. Some of you may have been fortunate enough to have met him as well. He is proud to consider himself the oldest taxi driver in Wanchai at 76 years old. He has the kindly face of a grandfather, speaks flawless English and remembers the days of the British administration fondly. At 5'0", he needs a booster cushion when he drives, but he knows Hong Kong like the back of his hand. The first time I met him, I had the presence of mind to treat him with respect and tip him generously. In return he gave me his number and told me to call him anytime I needed a ride. Since then he has been a reliable driver and more importantly a very valuable font of knowledge, showing me bars, clubs and places to party I never even knew existed. If you are lucky enough to meet him, treat him well and you won't regret it.[/QUOTE]Hong kong is a small place with excellent public transportation. No need for a taxi guy to take you around. He is not going to know more about mongering than you.

Hong Kong is all about money. Higher you pay you get better class of ladies. Ladies are from all over the world. Very classy escort business is alive and well in Hong Kong. But for cheaper pussy Wanchai bars are good.

No need a driver to tell you which bars to go. All are clustered in a few blocks area.

Daddy San.

DH wages are 3700 per month.

D / H happy to turn two tricks on a Sunday. This is a good day. And don't forget that some of the girls have regulars. So if a regular offers 800 for 4 hours and lunch it will often be accepted. Call it money in the bank.

Can assure you that my pussy has a sweet fragrance!

[QUOTE=Daddy San;1251755]I'll take you up on that in 16 days![/QUOTE]11 days to a massage from heaven.

I'am I reading this correctly. Room 8, Flat A (?) .7th floor of the building. So If I go to the 7th floor I look for room 8 and then flat A (what does flat A mean).

[QUOTE=Daddy San;1253414]. Chantik, our priceless fountain of knowledge, .[/QUOTE]It is a fact that since she joined the level of information went up, with an inside trader.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1253419]Can assure you that my pussy has a sweet fragrance![/QUOTE]Somebody got to do a test drive for the team now. Any volunteer? LOL

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1253419]Daddy San.

DH wages are 3700 per month.

D / H happy to turn two tricks on a Sunday. This is a good day. And don't forget that some of the girls have regulars. So if a regular offers 800 for 4 hours and lunch it will often be accepted. Call it money in the bank.

Can assure you that my pussy has a sweet fragrance![/QUOTE]While I understand the gist of Daddy Sans argument I think it is VERY unlikely any girls get 5 tricks on a Sunday, even the most attractive. The bottom line is there just aren't enough guys out shopping to make it work that way. In reality I would guess, and Chantik will be able to correct me, that for the average DH if they manage to snag one customer they have had a good Sunday (unless its Navy or Rugby weekend). On my last weekend in Wanchai (see my report earlier) from 12. 30 until I retired for night 12 hours later in no bar was the male; female ratio not in the guys favor. And not all the guys are buying (though not all the girls are selling I suppose).

So much discussion of D / H's. Not sure why everyone is so obsessed. Bottom line is if you meet a D / H on Sunday or a pro pretending to be a D / H what does it matter? My approach is its $500 for an afternoon of fun on a Sunday. If she is a D / H and would have gone for free then she has got lucky. If she is a pro pretending to be a D / H and was expecting more she is going to be disappointed. Works for me.

What makes Hk Sunday scene so great is the sheer volume of opportunities available in all shapes and sizes. Much better than Singapore where D / H Sunday is also Bangladeshi construction worker Sunday so the male to female ratio is not as favorable.

Chantik, enjoy your visit to Singapore.

CT

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1253490]Somebody got to do a test drive for the team now. Any volunteer? LOL[/QUOTE]That somebody will be in for a surprise. Chantik does has good info any monger that regularly visits HK can provide, but for sure an Indonesian WG doesn't use western slang, doesn't refer to "girls and their pussies" instead of "girls and our pussies". I have never chatted with an Indonesia girl that can write at her level of English.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1252675]Let me break it down for you.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Chantik;1231656]If anyone reports negatively on American we are lefties.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory; 1253499]While I understand the gist of Daddy Sans argument I think it is VERY unlikely any girls get 5 tricks on a Sunday, even the most attractive. The bottom line is there just aren't enough guys out shopping to make it work that way. In reality I would guess, and Chantik will be able to correct me, that for the average DH if they manage to snag one customer they have had a good Sunday (unless its Navy or Rugby weekend). On my last weekend in Wanchai (see my report earlier) from 12. 30 until I retired for night 12 hours later in no bar was the male; female ratio not in the guys favor. And not all the guys are buying (though not all the girls are selling I suppose).

So much discussion of D / H's. Not sure why everyone is so obsessed. Bottom line is if you meet a D / H on Sunday or a pro pretending to be a D / H what does it matter? My approach is its $500 for an afternoon of fun on a Sunday. If she is a D / H and would have gone for free then she has got lucky. If she is a pro pretending to be a D / H and was expecting more she is going to be disappointed. Works for me.

What makes Hk Sunday scene so great is the sheer volume of opportunities available in all shapes and sizes. Much better than Singapore where D / H Sunday is also Bangladeshi construction worker Sunday so the male to female ratio is not as favorable.

Chantik, enjoy your visit to Singapore.

CT[/QUOTE]You are right that $500 is the price for Sunday.

This is why professionals don't go out on Sunday.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1253556]That somebody will be in for a surprise. Chantik does has good info any monger that regularly visits HK can provide, but for sure an Indonesian WG doesn't use western slang, doesn't refer to "girls and their pussies" instead of "girls and our pussies". I have never chatted with an Indonesia girl that can write at her level of English.[/QUOTE]Could be.

I always think that anyone lying on internet is lying first to him / herself than to the other. Anyhow I still think lots of people here would like to meet the Chantik appearing here.

Given your doubts, I am reinforcing the question: any VOLUNTEER? LOL.

Have a good day folks

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1253416]Hong kong is a small place with excellent public transportation. No need for a taxi guy to take you around. He is not going to know more about mongering than you.

Hong Kong is all about money. Higher you pay you get better class of ladies. Ladies are from all over the world. Very classy escort business is alive and well in Hong Kong. But for cheaper pussy Wanchai bars are good.

No need a driver to tell you which bars to go. All are clustered in a few blocks area.[/QUOTE]I'm not talking about the bars clustered on Lockhart Road.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1253425]11 days to a massage from heaven.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Chantik]Can assure you that my pussy has a sweet fragrance![/QUOTE]As I said before Chantik, am counting on it!

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Somebody got to do a test drive for the team now. Any volunteer? LOL[/QUOTE]I'll be brave and do the test drive. However I'll only report, in detail, in case of disappointment.

Can you inbox me your no.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1253575]You are right that $500 is the price for Sunday.

This is why professionals don't go out on Sunday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Daddy San; 1253602]As I said before Chantik, am counting on it!

I'll be brave and do the test drive. However I'll only report, in detail, in case of disappointment.[/QUOTE]OK, I will do the test drive as soon as Chantik is free.

Chantik. I have sent you a PM.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1253616]OK, I will do the test drive as soon as Chantik is free.

Chantik. I have sent you a PM.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]As Chantik seems a good professional, I am sure she will not report on her test drive with the guys here, specially in case of her disappointment! LOL

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1253635]As Chantik seems a good professional, I am sure she will not report on her test drive with the guys here, specially in case of her disappointment! LOL[/QUOTE]As there seems to be quite a bit of interest, I'll chip in a bit about my experience with the lady sometimes known as Chantik. Yes, the pussy is as sweet as advertised by the owner. Her mouth is also extremely talented. Most highly recommended!

The Tanuki

[QUOTE=Chantik;1252675]One trick used by local residents. Is the hand test. If the girl's hand is a bit rough. That means she is or has been a D / H, smooth hands mean she is not a D / H.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, met a little lady from Java last night in Makati, who claimed that she gets Fridays off as she prefers that to Sundays. Said she's a nanny for a couple with one girl about 10 years old. Helluva hot kisser right in the bar, and she easily agreed to 1000 LT plus taxi. On the way back to my hotel, I did notice her hands being a little rough, which reminded me of the note from Chantik and then wondered whether she'd want to go bareback. Sure enough, once we're naked she never even thought about a cover for the deed. What a wildcat in the bed! I haven't had a LT for quite some time and had to admit it's awfully handy to wake up with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] hardon and have a hot willing place to put it. As Jack Nicholson said,"never waste a hardon!"

The Tanuki

[QUOTE=The Tanuki;1253645]I did notice her hands being a little rough, which reminded me of the note from Chantik and then wondered whether she'd want to go bareback. Sure enough, once we're naked she never even thought about a cover for the deed.[/QUOTE]Well, based on Chantik's intel, there should be a little Tanuki crawling around in a years time! LOL!

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1253635]As Chantik seems a good professional, I am sure she will not report on her test drive with the guys here, specially in case of her disappointment! LOL[/QUOTE]Ditto. I am sure my ego is more fragile than hers! Though I do like the way some women phrase things when rating guys.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1253743]Well, based on Chantik's intel, there should be a little Tanuki crawling around in a years time! LOL!

Ditto. I am sure my ego is more fragile than hers! Though I do like the way some women phrase things when rating guys.[/QUOTE]I hope The Tanuki withdraw in time!

[QUOTE=Sammon;1253416]Hong Kong is all about money. Higher you pay you get better class of ladies. Ladies are from all over the world. Very classy escort business is alive and well in Hong Kong. But for cheaper pussy Wanchai bars are good.[/QUOTE]Care to share some tips on *where* to find that better class of ladies? I've posted the query before without much luck finding out. Chantik had a couple suggestions when I contacted her via PM (adultwork, plus one other escort-listing site), but still between her suggestions and what I've been able to research on my own I haven't come up with much.

I'm definitely planning on checking out Wanchai when I'm in town next weekend, but I'd also like some backup options for outcall / delivery.

[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1253475]I'am I reading this correctly. Room 8, Flat A (?) .7th floor of the building. So If I go to the 7th floor I look for room 8 and then flat A (what does flat A mean).[/QUOTE]It means that within room 8 there will be subdivisions into several even tinier flats. One of them will be Flat A. These doors almost always open to the corridor though.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1253750]I hope The Tanuki withdraw in time![/QUOTE]Not a matter for concern as Tanuki, Jr has been shooting blanks for almost 20 years.

[QUOTE=The Tanuki;1253827]Not a matter for concern as Tanuki, Jr has been shooting blanks for almost 20 years.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Chantik;1253750]I hope The Tanuki withdraw in time![/QUOTE]I fear that both loads were shot, reloaded, and shot again at point blank range. A tanuki's reputation through out the ages in folklore makes shooting blanks highly unlikely and most likely drowned or smothered a wee lassie. LOL

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1253584]Could be.

I always think that anyone lying on internet is lying first to him / herself than to the other. Anyhow I still think lots of people here would like to meet the Chantik appearing here.

Given your doubts, I am reinforcing the question: any VOLUNTEER? LOL.

Have a good day folks[/QUOTE]As Makeupaname suggested, Chantik is most definitely a guy posing as a male. No idea what the dude gets out of playing this charade as the all-knowing Indonesian hooker. Very strange.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1254039]As Makeupaname suggested, Chantik is most definitely a guy posing as a male. No idea what the dude gets out of playing this charade as the all-knowing Indonesian hooker. Very strange.[/QUOTE]Chantik is definitely female. I have personally verified. Please stop the abusive comments toward her. She has done nothing to deserve your scorn

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1254039]As Makeupaname suggested, Chantik is most definitely a guy posing as a male. No idea what the dude gets out of playing this charade as the all-knowing Indonesian hooker. Very strange.[/QUOTE]In the absence of meaningful contributions, some have decided to open this old treasure chest.

As has been stated severak times before. We don't care. Male, Female, TS. Beleive what you want. Doesn't change the point that Chantik's insights are insightful to myself and the majority of the forum, and a lot closer to factually correct than your posts.

If you cannot accept this, Please save yourself some embarrasment and flaming abuse and just add me to your ever growing ignore list.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1254039]As Makeupaname suggested, Chantik is most definitely a guy posing as a male. No idea what the dude gets out of playing this charade as the all-knowing Indonesian hooker. Very strange.[/QUOTE]Anyhow I always approach these matters in believing, till proven contrary with real facts and not feelings, on how the people present themselves, so Chantik, as far as I am concerned, is a woman. A smart one!

Having said that I won't get any prize in being right nor I will look like an idiot in believing what others don't.

[QUOTE=Lucky21;1254122]Chantik is definitely female. I have personally verified. Please stop the abusive comments toward her. She has done nothing to deserve your scorn[/QUOTE]Fully agree with these sentiments.

Leave the girl alone. She is entitled to express her views and make comments, just like everyone else is.
GG is way off the mark, as is makeupaname. Can't understand what they hope to gain.

No longer in HK but thought I'd just share the week's fun and at least post about punting.

First night (Sat) : I was a little tired from getting up early to fly over, so just stayed in Kowloon. Took an early look at Hari's, but there was nothing happening by 9:30 other than a couple tired-looking older / chubby Thai women. Decided to catch some music at Sticky Fingers, which is always a great point in their favor, IMO. However, it was not a night for finding girls that night so I gave up around midnight and went back the hotel. In the bar there, I noticed a couple African ladies hanging out, and sat near one and started a chat. She's from Ghana, had rather large headlights and was quite pretty, so I invited her upstairs for a further drink. She turned out to be a reall great kisser and those big soft lips also made for some awesome head. Turned out to be the best I've had from Africa.

Second day (Sun) : After some shopping in Mong Kok I came back to rest up for a session with Chantik. She arrived promptly on schedule and we headed upstairs to what turned out to be a couple hours of heaven on earth. Aside from being a woman of amazing talents with many parts of her body, Chantik is also a world traveler and a great conversationalist. She also brings toys along, which added to the fun. I was totally worn out after that time!

Next time (Wed) : Got my energy back and headed out and about in Kowloon again. It was fairly quiet out, but after 11:30 Hari's actually had quite a number of ladies on site. A few Thai (looking for high $$ so I gave up quickly) .6 or so Africans (not on my menu this night) and a few Russian speakers. I settled with one because of her killer eyes and the other eyes as well. No real kissing, which was a bummer but not so unusual. Good CBJ and high energy doggie style. OK but nothing outstanding.

Thursday: Finally got up the energy to head out to Wanchai, after getting out of work early for a change. Started in Escape and met a very nice local woman, MILF type, who needs extra cash of course. She was into the BuyMe drinks so went for one to chat awhile, then moved on to wander the streets a bit. I ended up at Makati where I met the "nanny" mentioned earlier. Great night it turned out to be!

Friday: My final night in town, and for once the temps were up so no need for a coat! Caught a cab over to Wanchai and got there a little before 10. I was a tad surprised at how many people were out already. I couldn't get a shisha at Bar 109 until after 12, so ended up at Splash for a smoke session first. Decent band but not great. Then went down to Escape. By the second drink, a team of 3 Flip's surrounded me to see what they could get. Then the cops showed up to raid the women. One of the Flip's had a pretty weak story and was getting pressed hard by the female cop. I took the opportunity to skip out and find a new venue. Neptune III was empty, so then tried Joe Banana's (also fairly tame). Seemed like the men outnumbered the women about 20 to 1 so far, so I decided to give up around midnight and head back over to Sticky Fingers in Kowloon. The place was pretty full and the band was rocking great. There was even a reasonable selection of WG's including some Colombians, one Russian and several Thai. I squeezed into a seat between some Thai ladies and ended up with one who I'd met last fall but didn't take out at that time. Mostly I was just enjoying the final time, the good tunes and figuring whether I wanted to get laid or not. By 4 it was time to head out, and almost had a 3some but the younger Thai girl was a bit too drunk and got into some shit with some jerks there. So was just the one gal and back to the room. She deferred on discussing money, which left me a tad nervous, but it went really well. Not the youngest or the prettiest WG around but damn the service was awesome. She thought she'd just massage me at first and do some fucking in the morning after some sleep, but Tanuki Jr was up at attention and after seeing how wet she got, things moved up in a hurry. Still, I was drunk enough to where it took a long time to cum, even after enjoying all 3 holes. She was worried that the condom might hurt after so long so she pulled that off to finish by mouth / hand / tongue. That's a service level not known in the West.

All in all it was a very enjoyable time. Found that the Ra Bar / Restaurant next to the Shang has the best shisha of all, for only $130. There's a belly dancer there at times also. Hope I can get back someday, but it'll be a lot more difficult as I'm leaving Asia soon. You guys go enjoy it!

The Tanuki

hi there,

after reading a lot (of very useful stuff) in this forum, i would like to contribute and share my experiences made in the last week in hk:

first the disclaimer (just for my good feelings) : this has been my first travel with looking for paid fun. only because i never had the chance to meet (hopefully) beautiful asian girls, which are a kind of fetish to me for a long time. no chance to get this "selection" where i'm living (europe). i couldn't resist but to use this chance while visiting asia (and obviously also hk) for the first time in my life!

back to the action:

while this (and another) forum provides really good help. it also offers too many choices. where to begin? i decided to go for the safe way: k-pressure. for me it was really easy to find, the location woosung st at corner jordan road and the yellow sign with "390" on it. i definetely would recommend getting a local mobile card (sim) for your smart phone. i bought a "one2free" at the airport (departure hall at shop 1010) for hkd 100 which includes a week of full speed flat 3g internet access, which is perfectly available all over hk! just ask the merchant for setting up the appropriate plan.

then you can use your phone's map app which really really helps finding all the places, thanks to realtime gps location of your position. as well as having permanent access to the search engines.

back to the action (again) : i passed the old guy which is sitting at the entrance, went up the stairs for the first floor, where mamasan already waited for me. she brought me in one of the really poorly lit waiting rooms where a tv was shown some childish cartoon series, which made it a bit surreal. she asked me if i'm here for the first time ("yes") , explained to me the price structure ("hkd 390 for 45 minutes + 110- for the room") and left without asking me for preferences regarding the girls. that was the time when i asked myself, what in hell i'm doing here in this strange place.

but that changed fast: a minute later the door opened again and a really awesome looking mid-20 showed up: chinese, very slim, unusual narrow face, relatively tall. she looked a bit shy, but sat down very close to me, grabbed my hand and smiled while massaging my hand. she spoke no word of english. my heart pounded near my throat, not only because of her appearance but because of my unbeleivable luck, getting the jackpot in the first try! she exactly had the look of which i always "dreamed for": i'm very into the slim and tall bodies.

i made clear that i was willing to go with her. mamasan took the money (the whole 500) and the girl took me upstairs to a quite decent room, undressed me and herself then we went to the shower. this process was accompanied by giggling and some hugging to get over the language barrier and to hide my (and her?) shyness. i've always been petrified in the face of beauty!

in the shower we got more comfortable. the best part was where she pointed at the inflatable matress in the shower. i nodded and then the best part started: she used a lot of soap and then her body to rub all over me. heaven! this appeared so natural to me, she even made natural noises of pleasure from time to time (i hate these fake moans!).

after exploring her perfect body for some time which she obviously enjoyed (in terms of wetness besides the shower) we changed for the bed. i asked her to skip the bj. which i never found very arousing, especially when imaging the girl has to lick a bubble gum flavoured condom. and we did the "usual stuff", cowboy, mssionary etc. the flow was good, we laughed, had fun, had our serious and concentrated parts (i noticed when she did the circle movements instead of humping, to get more good feelings by rubbing herself the good parts).

despite all the surroundings, that all appeared very real to me. which was more than i expected. and her look did the rest to me for a real happy ending (which we did in the 69 position while she was using her hands te "end" this. which is absolutely my favourite position with having the good parts in front of my eyes and mouth.

what a start for my week in hk!

the next day i recovered. the day after i was very interested to have a more passive experience by getting a massage in one of the often suggested saunas. i went for "indulgence spa" at nathan road. at a classy looking reception at the end of the escelators to the basement were three business girls behind the counter which didn't really notice me. one eventually looked at me, said 1. 200- but didn't even explained for what kind of service.

a small break: follow your instincts. after this week i can say that this is the most helpful thing to get most out of hk! when a place looks good, go there. when not, leave. this is not about the looks of the building, the entrances or so. it is more a kind of spirit attached to the places and the people there!

i left the indulgence spa after this uninspiring welcome. went to "sun hot sauna", which also didn't made the right impression to me when looking from the outside. a bit disappointed i went back the street to nathan road when i saw one of this thousands led massage signs (end of prat ave). the intuition let me climb the stairs to the second floor. i thought: at least you would get a massage with a probably chance of he because of the proximity to the saunas and location at tst district.

well, the building was more on the "please leave soon" side. but you will notice this all over hk, especially when going for the 141/161 girls (see below). the massage salon was what i expected: improvised, a bit worn out and very small. but a very friendly and quite good looking girl welcomed me. i asked for a foot massage, but she suggested a full body massage (for hkd 198 for an hour). she didn't spoke much english but her warm and friendly appearance made me say yes to the offer.

we went to a small room with a massage couch and funny looking drapes covering the windows. she asked to put of my clothes except for the underpants because of the oil massage (most of the chinese massages are done with your clothes, at least underwear, on). she covered my with towels (it was unusual cold during my stay in hk) and uncovered only the parts for massage. despite her small appearance she gave a real good massage with good pressure and somtimes near (good) pain. i was very surprised and startet to enjoy. when she reached my butt she asked if she could pull down my underpants. she then treated my butt muscles which was very good because of all the walking through the streets of hk! unfortunately during most massages this part will always be skipped, a shame.

when i had to turn on my back i was very curious, how this would continue (nobody had spoken about hj / he or else). she went up my thighs and took good care of the muscles between the legs. finally after treated all muscle parts she smiled at me (the good friend between my legs was still very relaxed) and asked if she also should take care of that (last) body part. she asked it in such a kind and natural way. i had to allow it.

i asked if i could touch her which she allowed and so all of our hands were busy, which eventually concluded in a surprisingly very hefty happy ending with shaking hands (mine!). wow, hadn't expect that. she must have done some magic energy accumulation with her massage before or whatsoever!

i also was surprised that the hj didn't account for an extra fee. she still asked for the hkd 200! i gave her a good tip and she handed me her business card, hugged me and urged me to come back.

to be continued in part ii (another k-pressure visit and a 141 girl).

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1254247]
Second day (Sun) : After some shopping in Mong Kok I came back to rest up for a session with Chantik. She arrived promptly on schedule and we headed upstairs to what turned out to be a couple hours of heaven on earth. Aside from being a woman of amazing talents with many parts of her body, Chantik is also a world traveler and a great conversationalist. She also brings toys along, which added to the fun. I was totally worn out after that time!

The Tanuki[/QUOTE]Great report TT.

And I hope your comments above will put to rest the debate about Chantik.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1253161]Word on street is Navy arrive in HK on 19th.

That is indeed the same week as the rugby crowd is here. The rugby crowd starts to build up from Mon / Tues and through the 10s mid-week to the Sevens starting on the Friday evening.

Should be an absolute zoo that week!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Navy arrives on March 15 and is due to stay over during the weekend.

Thanks Tanuki.

You were a true gentleman.

Hope I have time to take dinner next time.

[QUOTE=Beijing Lover;1254332]Navy arrives on March 15 and is due to stay over during the weekend.[/QUOTE]Bar owners will be happy.

Two crazy weekends in Hong Kong.

Yesterday was a very rare opportunity for me to explore the D|H scene in HK. I started out a Bar 109 and couldn't get thru the crowd at 3pm. Then off to \Neptune 2 and more disappointment. Ventured over to New Makati and the crowd was just starting to come in, waited an hour or so and one real hottie walked in. Started a conversation and she tells me she likes |Forest better. I decided to head over there after her telling me she was an "agent" that helped girls get visas. I got the feeling she wasn't interested in finding a "date", but more interested in finding a couple of girls that owed her or maybe her boss some money.

Forest had a few cuties, but not a lot of volume. Went to Insider's, met a group of one real cute girl (Fils) and three not so much. Chatted them all, but then had a Cinderella moment when at 7:00 the cute one tells me she has to be home by 8:00 and she really hopes I will call her again.

Went back to the hotel to freshen up, the manager at Insider's told me it was a really slow Sunday. Later checked out Neptune II again and J Forest, both were pretty dead at 11:00pm. Then went to Escape and there were a lot more girls than guys, which I thought would be a good thing. Found a cute Viet gal, started a conversation, got the right vibe and then asked for a short time visit, she told me that her fee was 1500 ST, I told her I never paid more than 700-800 ST, thinking that she would be reasonable and come to 1000, (which was still too high, but.) she responded she never goes below 1500, I told her I appreciated her position, but I would not pay that and said goodbye. Chatted up a cute little Thai, that eventually told me her price was 2. 5K, and she was not amused when I asked if that was for an entire weekend.

I knew I had been gone from Wanchai a while, but geez. I haven't seen anyone on the forum paying these prices, or at least telling about. Decided to cut my losses and opted for a really good night's sleep instead. A bit disappointing, but that is the way things turn out!

A day of missed opportunities!

Insiders is always quiet. Any day of the week. Has not been as busy as the owners hoped. Tends to get a few South American girls. Which may keep the punters away.

Actually had a drink in Insiders on Sunday afternoon / early evening.

Only about 40 people in the bar.

Looks like private independents and agencies may be a similar price to ladies in Wanchai bars.

Bar 109 is the best take away place early Sunday afternoon - Pity it was so crowded.

[QUOTE=Lucky21;1254122]Chantik is definitely female. I have personally verified. Please stop the abusive comments toward her. She has done nothing to deserve your scorn[/QUOTE]Yes she has-she has not played along with his insanely over-inflated self-image.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1254803]Yes she has-she has not played along with his insanely over-inflated self-image.[/QUOTE]I believe tanuki, so I was wrong. Thanks chanik, I do appreciate the current info on the Wanchai bars.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1254851]I believe tanuki, so I was wrong. Thanks chanik, I do appreciate the current info on the Wanchai bars.[/QUOTE]Makeupname was man enough to say it. Well done, dude.

Let's see if the self-important, all knowledgeable, blow hard, Gaijin Gigolo is also man enough to say something.

Oh. I forgot. He puts everyone who disagrees with him on his "ignore" list. Will soon be a profoundly lonely conversation for him on this board.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1254703]Yesterday was a very rare opportunity for me to explore the D|H scene in HK.

I knew I had been gone from Wanchai a while, but geez. I haven't seen anyone on the forum paying these prices, or at least telling about. Decided to cut my losses and opted for a really good night's sleep instead. A bit disappointing, but that is the way things turn out![/QUOTE]Famous Sky Ryder,

I have heard some absurd requests from the girls in Neptune II lately, but also will not pay those rates. Last night (and New Makati and Neptune II were fairly hopping midnightish-3) I pulled a demure and petite Filipina, late 20s, who says she works as a caregiver to an elderly Chinese. Think the name was Iza. Asked $2K ST. I indicated that that was a bit rich and that I knew the market, but she insisted that she has commanded that price. Now, perhaps someone who wanted a nice conversation from a pleasant and reasonably witty girl, but I wouldn't say that she is hot. But I liked her well enough that I thought a session might be memorable. (so-so, as it would turn out) Well, Iza and I returned to the flat after we agreed on $1K LT, to stay in the morning 9ish. No need to rehash the sex, nice enough, multiple positions, DATY to her orgasm (nice). Her BJ technique was quite good (but she would not allow CIM "only the Indonesians do that", she says, which of course is patently false. We both slept a bit fitfully and she began coughing through the night. We wake up about 9 and she asks to leave. I tell her, well, what about my morning service? Now as she may actually be feeling ill I did not press the issue but did say that because I did not get the entire service that I would pay $800. She looked shocked! Shocked! And said that, well LT means one shot (LOL) and that she had never had this happen. I kindly remind her that 99% of men who want LT expect the morning delight, also known as the point of LT. And that if she plies her trade in Neptune II that she had better figure out the protocol. We agreed to disagree and she left with $800HK. Sheesh, these girls.

Wonder if anyone has had any, ahem, relations with an Indo (well, aren't most of 'them) at New Makati who goes by Rosie, or LuLu. Tall, slender and an absolutely killer dancer. She was traipsing provocatively around the place as a younger guy (Aussie?) sat staring at her. I made mention of his "girlfriend" and we both laughed. He said something to the effect that, well, she just likes to let the geezers get a rise (I'm paraphrasing). I inquired about their status to another friendly WG who laughed and said the young guy pays like everybody else (LOL). Anyway, thinking about ordering takeaway from that provider, very unique, if indigenous Indo, look. And a smoking body.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1254924]Wonder if anyone has had any, ahem, relations with an Indo (well, aren't most of 'them) at New Makati who goes by Rosie, or LuLu. Tall, slender and an absolutely killer dancer. She was traipsing provocatively around the place as a younger guy (Aussie?) sat staring at her. I made mention of his "girlfriend" and we both laughed. He said something to the effect that, well, she just likes to let the geezers get a rise (I'm paraphrasing). I inquired about their status to another friendly WG who laughed and said the young guy pays like everybody else (LOL). Anyway, thinking about ordering takeaway from that provider, very unique, if indigenous Indo, look. And a smoking body.[/QUOTE]You aren't going to see a girl in Makati who isn't there to make a buck or 2. Stop thinking and just go do her and let us know. Maybe get a pic too. Haha.

TT

[QUOTE=The Tanuki;1254926]You aren't going to see a girl in Makati who isn't there to make a buck or 2. Stop thinking and just go do her and let us know. Maybe get a pic too. Haha.TT[/QUOTE]I absolutely agree. Did you happen to snap one of Chantik? LOL (Waiting with baited breath)

[QUOTE=Boarer;1254934]Did you happen to snap one of Chantik? LOL (Waiting with baited breath)[/QUOTE]I have a pic that she sent me personally, plus she has a few on a web site. I'm sure she'd be happy to provide those for you!

BTW, what did you bait your breath with? And what are you hoping to catch with such bait? Sorry, couldn't resist. LOL.

TT

Any more news on the Navy visit? And can anyone give some information what affect the sevens has on business? How long after the event does it take for it to settle down. I'm thinking of a visit from the 29th of March but if there are too many people around then prices and availability might be affected as well.

Thanks

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1254941]I have a pic that she sent me personally, plus she has a few on a web site. I'm sure she'd be happy to provide those for you!

BTW, what did you bait your breath with? And what are you hoping to catch with such bait? Sorry, couldn't resist. LOL.

TT[/QUOTE]He bit! He has pic (s). LOL.

I also nominate you to be the forum's official proof reader. Another chap had better success putting a random "i" in words. However, he put it in the front and not in the middle.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1254703]I knew I had been gone from Wanchai a while, but geez. I haven't seen anyone on the forum paying these prices, or at least telling about. Decided to cut my losses and opted for a really good night's sleep instead. A bit disappointing, but that is the way things turn out![/QUOTE]Sky Ryder,

Wow, bad day ending in a good nights sleep! I have never paid those prices even on 7s weekend. I have recently had starting offers at 2k, dropping to 1k LT quickly. I am a bit surprised at what you found. Thanks for standing firm on the market pricing. Let's all hope others have your will-power and don't screw up the market.

SH

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1255055]Sky Ryder,

Wow, bad day ending in a good nights sleep! I have never paid those prices even on 7s weekend. I have recently had starting offers at 2k, dropping to 1k LT quickly. I am a bit surprised at what you found. Thanks for standing firm on the market pricing. Let's all hope others have your will-power and don't screw up the market.

SH[/QUOTE]HK$1000 is the most I will pay for LT and I have never really had a major problem with agreeing this in the past. I reported last November being quoted 4K in Escape. No way and I did not even negotiate. I walked away. What she is really saying to me I'm not interetsed in you.

Having read the reports over the past few weeks, the prices seem to be going up but I'm there next week and will be visiting the usual haunts and I can assure you I will not be screwing up the market. If I get high prices being quoted, there is always 141 girls, K Pressure etc and I am looking forward to the inhouse hotel massage service I got last year from a lovely young Chinese girl.

Glad to see that Chantik is being treated more fairly and its time GG quietly apologised and accepted he was wrong.

Nicholas.

Most of the Rugby 7's crowd will be gone by the 27th.

Prices. Depends on how lucky you are!

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1255072]HK$1000 is the most I will pay for LT and I have never really had a major problem with agreeing this in the past. I reported last November being quoted 4K in Escape. No way and I did not even negotiate. I walked away. What she is really saying to me I'm not interetsed in you.

Having read the reports over the past few weeks, the prices seem to be going up but I'm there next week and will be visiting the usual haunts and I can assure you I will not be screwing up the market. If I get high prices being quoted, there is always 141 girls, K Pressure etc and I am looking forward to the inhouse hotel massage service I got last year from a lovely young Chinese girl.

Glad to see that Chantik is being treated more fairly and its time GG quietly apologised and accepted he was wrong.[/QUOTE]GG has not apologized. LOL

[quote=greg gonzales; 1254288]hi there,

after reading a lot (of very useful stuff) in this forum, i would like to contribute and share my experiences made in the last week in hk:

first the disclaimer (just for my good feelings) : this has been my first travel with looking for paid fun. only because i never had the chance to meet (hopefully) beautiful asian girls, which are a kind of fetish to me for a long time. no chance to get this "selection" where i'm living (europe). i couldn't resist but to use this chance while visiting asia (and obviously also hk) for the first time in my life!

back to the action:

while this (and another) forum provides really good help. it also offers too many choices. where to begin? i decided to go for the safe way: k-pressure. for me it was really easy to find, the location woosung st at corner jordan road and the yellow sign with "390" on it. i definetely would recommend getting a local mobile card (sim) for your smart phone. i bought a "one2free" at the airport (departure hall at shop 1010) for hkd 100 which includes a week of full speed flat 3g internet access, which is perfectly available all over hk! just ask the merchant for setting up the appropriate plan.

then you can use your phone's map app which really really helps finding all the places, thanks to realtime gps location of your position. as well as having permanent access to the search engines.

back to the action (again) : i passed the old guy which is sitting at the entrance, went up the stairs for the first floor, where mamasan already waited for me. she brought me in one of the really poorly lit waiting rooms where a tv was shown some childish cartoon series, which made it a bit surreal. she asked me if i'm here for the first time ("yes") , explained to me the price structure ("hkd 390 for 45 minutes + 110- for the room") and left without asking me for preferences regarding the girls. that was the time when i asked myself, what in hell i'm doing here in this strange place.

but that changed fast: a minute later the door opened again and a really awesome looking mid-20 showed up: chinese, very slim, unusual narrow face, relatively tall. she looked a bit shy, but sat down very close to me, grabbed my hand and smiled while massaging my hand. she spoke no word of english. my heart pounded near my throat, not only because of her appearance but because of my unbeleivable luck, getting the jackpot in the first try! she exactly had the look of which i always "dreamed for": i'm very into the slim and tall bodies.

i made clear that i was willing to go with her. mamasan took the money (the whole 500) and the girl took me upstairs to a quite decent room, undressed me and herself then we went to the shower. this process was accompanied by giggling and some hugging to get over the language barrier and to hide my (and her?) shyness. i've always been petrified in the face of beauty!

in the shower we got more comfortable. the best part was where she pointed at the inflatable matress in the shower. i nodded and then the best part started: she used a lot of soap and then her body to rub all over me. heaven! this appeared so natural to me, she even made natural noises of pleasure from time to time (i hate these fake moans!).

after exploring her perfect body for some time which she obviously enjoyed (in terms of wetness besides the shower) we changed for the bed. i asked her to skip the bj. which i never found very arousing, especially when imaging the girl has to lick a bubble gum flavoured condom. and we did the "usual stuff", cowboy, mssionary etc. the flow was good, we laughed, had fun, had our serious and concentrated parts (i noticed when she did the circle movements instead of humping, to get more good feelings by rubbing herself the good parts).

despite all the surroundings, that all appeared very real to me. which was more than i expected. and her look did the rest to me for a real happy ending (which we did in the 69 position while she was using her hands te "end" this. which is absolutely my favourite position with having the good parts in front of my eyes and mouth.

what a start for my week in hk!

the next day i recovered. the day after i was very interested to have a more passive experience by getting a massage in one of the often suggested saunas. i went for "indulgence spa" at nathan road. at a classy looking reception at the end of the escelators to the basement were three business girls behind the counter which didn't really notice me. one eventually looked at me, said 1. 200- but didn't even explained for what kind of service.

a small break: follow your instincts. after this week i can say that this is the most helpful thing to get most out of hk! when a place looks good, go there. when not, leave. this is not about the looks of the building, the entrances or so. it is more a kind of spirit attached to the places and the people there!

i left the indulgence spa after this uninspiring welcome. went to "sun hot sauna", which also didn't made the right impression to me when looking from the outside. a bit disappointed i went back the street to nathan road when i saw one of this thousands led massage signs (end of prat ave). the intuition let me climb the stairs to the second floor. i thought: at least you would get a massage with a probably chance of he because of the proximity to the saunas and location at tst district.

well, the building was more on the "please leave soon" side. but you will notice this all over hk, especially when going for the 141/161 girls (see below). the massage salon was what i expected: improvised, a bit worn out and very small. but a very friendly and quite good looking girl welcomed me. i asked for a foot massage, but she suggested a full body massage (for hkd 198 for an hour). she didn't spoke much english but her warm and friendly appearance made me say yes to the offer.

we went to a small room with a massage couch and funny looking drapes covering the windows. she asked to put of my clothes except for the underpants because of the oil massage (most of the chinese massages are done with your clothes, at least underwear, on). she covered my with towels (it was unusual cold during my stay in hk) and uncovered only the parts for massage. despite her small appearance she gave a real good massage with good pressure and somtimes near (good) pain. i was very surprised and startet to enjoy. when she reached my butt she asked if she could pull down my underpants. she then treated my butt muscles which was very good because of all the walking through the streets of hk! unfortunately during most massages this part will always be skipped, a shame.

when i had to turn on my back i was very curious, how this would continue (nobody had spoken about hj / he or else). she went up my thighs and took good care of the muscles between the legs. finally after treated all muscle parts she smiled at me (the good friend between my legs was still very relaxed) and asked if she also should take care of that (last) body part. she asked it in such a kind and natural way. i had to allow it.

i asked if i could touch her which she allowed and so all of our hands were busy, which eventually concluded in a surprisingly very hefty happy ending with shaking hands (mine!). wow, hadn't expect that. she must have done some magic energy accumulation with her massage before or whatsoever!

i also was surprised that the hj didn't account for an extra fee. she still asked for the hkd 200! i gave her a good tip and she handed me her business card, hugged me and urged me to come back.

to be continued in part ii (another k-pressure visit and a 141 girl).[/quote]excellent field report, thanks for contributing.

Glad to see you guys are holding firm re: pricing, (see my posts on this topic last year). No need to worry about Navy guys lads, they are a rabble mostly. Just remember to work on 'your game' and treat the ladies with respect, which they always appreciate. Try some of the lesser known venues around the place as well. Last time the navy were in town, I was in the Firehouse, quietly sitting in the corner enjoying several shower shows all paid for by the fine young men of the US Navy. As soon as they bugged out, the place went back to normal and those of us left had a great time.

Is it possible to prevent certain posters from viewing your posts?

I ask because this thread currently shows the most recent post as being made by Gaijin Gigolo, but I can't see the post. I don't have him (or anyone) on my ignore list.

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1254941]I have a pic that she sent me personally, plus she has a few on a web site. I'm sure she'd be happy to provide those for you!

TT[/QUOTE]Could you please PM me that web site address? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1255183]Is it possible to prevent certain posters from viewing your posts?

I ask because this thread currently shows the most recent post as being made by Gaijin Gigolo, but I can't see the post. I don't have him (or anyone) on my ignore list.[/QUOTE]All it said was:-

"Excellent field report, thanks for contributing"

I never see the need to copy the whole report as Greg G's was lengthy.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1255348]Could you please PM me that web site address? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Please contact Chantik directly for anything like that. She's a very accomodating woman. But it's her call as to whom she wants to provide more photos, etc. Her PM works too!

The Tanuki

Shopping in Wanchai Market today and bumped into three Indo women (know 2) walking with babies in strollers.

Think Nighthawk said last year that Indo girls want to have babies with gwailo's. It's definitely happening!

Wondering who is Daddy!

The HK Board is sometimes funny.

Often read about guys meeting a hot woman. Next poster is excited. Can you give details of the women. And so on!

Now we have guys asking guys for info about me. Which is flattering!. Asking guys to PM my details. But yet I regularly post on this forum. You can send me a PM. I always answer. May not meet.

And it is nice that there is some TRUE gentleman in this forum.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1255431]Asking guys to PM my details. ,., You can send me a PM. I always answer. May not meet.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=The Tanuki;1255382]Please contact Chantik directly for anything like that. She's a very accomodating woman. But it's her call as to whom she wants to provide more photos, etc. Her PM works too! The Tanuki[/QUOTE]Chantik does respond to PMs. (She is online A LOT) Though I was just digging for a photo of "big foot". I however cannot confirm the "accommodating" part.

Chantik, I, like some men, are just painfully shy when approaching women. LOL Would rather get the intel from me mates.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1255430]Shopping in Wanchai Market today and bumped into three Indo women (know 2) walking with babies in strollers.

Think Nighthawk said last year that Indo girls want to have babies with gwailo's. It's definitely happening!

Wondering who is Daddy![/QUOTE]Indo women unless they are immigrants do not have babies living with them if they are working as nannies or housekeepers. All Indo and Philippino girls working in HK leave their babies home with their parents.

I believe there is a clause in their employment contract saying if they get pregnant their contract will be terminated.

I have met some Phi girls and they told me the laws are very strict. They get only few hours of free time and most often have to be back at their employers house by certain time. Very rarely they allow staying overnight with friends.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1255446]Indo women unless they are immigrants do not have babies living with them if they are working as nannies or housekeepers. All Indo and Philippino girls working in HK leave their babies home with their parents.

I believe there is a clause in their employment contract saying if they get pregnant their contract will be terminated.

I have met some Phi girls and they told me the laws are very strict. They get only few hours of free time and most often have to be back at their employers house by certain time. Very rarely they allow staying overnight with friends.[/QUOTE]As you indicated Sammon, this is just more embellishment by chantik. Any babies being pushed around in strollers by Indos or Pinays living here are not their own if they are working here as D / Hs. No exceptions.

[QUOTE=Lewis And Clark;1255177]Glad to see you guys are holding firm re: pricing, (see my posts on this topic last year). No need to worry about Navy guys lads, they are a rabble mostly. Just remember to work on 'your game' and treat the ladies with respect, which they always appreciate. Try some of the lesser known venues around the place as well. Last time the navy were in town, I was in the Firehouse, quietly sitting in the corner enjoying several shower shows all paid for by the fine young men of the US Navy. As soon as they bugged out, the place went back to normal and those of us left had a great time.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. Anybody who's worried about our uniformed brothers must be anti-American and thus have reason to be afraid of them. Personally, I'm very happy to hear they're coming soon and it's very likely I'll end up buying drinks for quite a few of these brave men. I appreciate what they're doing to keep us safe,

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1255446]Indo women unless they are immigrants do not have babies living with them if they are working as nannies or housekeepers. All Indo and Philippino girls working in HK leave their babies home with their parents.

I believe there is a clause in their employment contract saying if they get pregnant their contract will be terminated.

I have met some Phi girls and they told me the laws are very strict. They get only few hours of free time and most often have to be back at their employers house by certain time. Very rarely they allow staying overnight with friends.[/QUOTE]

I will take pics next time.

I am talking about babies born in HK.

1) A number of D / H get guys to sign their contracts. And do other things. Others have boyfriends sign their contracts. Then break up.

2) Girls are willing to pay 20 to 30, 000 HK for guy to sign their contract. This gives them freedom. And to make naughty money.

3)Some guys sign their gf's contracts. 2 years living together. Then if it works they get married.

4)Lots of Indo's and Filipina's are married to bankers and their type. They can get a well educated Gwailo.

This is four groups of Indo/Filipina women who may have babies - All are, may, have or been D/H.

And the last line in my other post ' Who is the Daddy ' - Is a joke about guys saying that Indo's often go bareback - Think some missed the joke.

And some of you guys may have Indo and Phillipine wives!

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1255437]Chantik does respond to PMs. (She is online A LOT) Though I was just digging for a photo of "big foot". I however cannot confirm the "accommodating" part.

Chantik, I, like some men, are just painfully shy when approaching women. LOL Would rather get the intel from me mates.[/QUOTE]Let me check my in-box and see if you sent me a PM!

Shy boy!

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1255437]Chantik does respond to PMs. (She is online A LOT) Though I was just digging for a photo of "big foot". I however cannot confirm the "accommodating" part.

Chantik, I, like some men, are just painfully shy when approaching women. LOL Would rather get the intel from me mates.[/QUOTE]Will confirm that everyone's favorite Indonesian lass on this board will, in fact, quickly respond to PMs. In her list of "demands"/standards she notes that she WILL NOT see any "Wan Chai regulars". As I have recently become a fan of the sweet young things at New Makati I just don't know if I can meet her lofty requirements as far as that goes. Hopefully by "Wan Chair regulars" she means the ossified Brits who hang out at at Old Asia Hand, etc, waving their middle finger about and acting as if the place is still a colony (hope that's what she means). Otherwise, she has apparently had dalliances with some ISGers with far more experience than Wildhawk! That said,

Chantik's online pictures are quite tantalizing, though (you'll have to PM her if you want the particulars). Highly tempted.

And as for the comments about the USA Navy, well god bless those boys, and the odd lesbian, and I have found them polite to a man, even when they are forced to pay the absurd cover charges in the WC bars. As for them spoiling the mood, I doubt that the military kids are really paying to pull the girls. Though I will follow the advice of one fine poster who suggests letting them pay for the Firehouse shower shows! Aaaaaand, considering this month's HK schedule, I think, really, that the joints ought to charge those Sevens mfuckers double the cover. Those are the bestards who spoil the market and soil the gutters of Wan Chai (and, my friends, that takes SOME doing) with their barf. Just my POV.

Further to my post about the 3 Indonesian women with babies.

Where did I say that they are D / H?

An assumption has been made.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1255476]Will confirm that everyone's favorite Indonesian lass on this board will, in fact, quickly respond to PMs. In her list of "demands"/standards she notes that she WILL NOT see any "Wan Chai regulars". As I have recently become a fan of the sweet young things at New Makati I just don't know if I can meet her lofty requirements as far as that goes. Hopefully by "Wan Chair regulars" she means the ossified Brits who hang out at at Old Asia Hand, etc, waving their middle finger about and acting as if the place is still a colony (hope that's what she means). Otherwise, she has apparently had dalliances with some ISGers with far more experience than Wildhawk! That said,

Chantik's online pictures are quite tantalizing, though (you'll have to PM her if you want the particulars). Highly tempted.

And as for the comments about the USA Navy, well god bless those boys, and the odd lesbian, and I have found them polite to a man, even when they are forced to pay the absurd cover charges in the WC bars. As for them spoiling the mood, I doubt that the military kids are really paying to pull the girls. Though I will follow the advice of one fine poster who suggests letting them pay for the Firehouse shower shows! Aaaaaand, considering this month's HK schedule, I think, really, that the joints ought to charge those Sevens mfuckers double the cover. Those are the bestards who spoil the market and soil the gutters of Wan Chai (and, my friends, that takes SOME doing) with their barf. Just my POV.[/QUOTE]Wildhawk.

Think I am the same as you. You go into Makati. And you choose the girl that you desire. I did offer you a friend. Who got a glowing review on ISG from Daddysan. The offer still stands.

Agree about the Rugby Seven's. It's impossible to move in Wanchai after 8pm. Many residents are happy when it finishes.

Anyway Escape is looking forward to the Rugby Sevens. As you enter from Jaffe Road. There is a large mat next to the swinging doors. That says HK Rugby Seven's 2012.

The Wanchai bars will have two great weekends coming up.

I know two guys who have signed for their Filipina girlfriends after having babies with them, I guess they are not strictly DHs still but that is what they are legally. One keeps his in another flat, the other moves the girl in and out according to whether the wife is here or not. I don't understand how they erase all trace of baby before the wife comes back though! Girlfriend then goes into a boarding house for a while. The baby is born here and perfectly legal to stay, even has a gweilo passport!

As far as the Navy is concerned GG I've never considered sailors brave, I'll reserve that for a guy on the ground in the trenches. I've always found them fairly well behaved and pleasant to chat too, they bring more girls out as they buy far more drinks than some of us kuriput men. It can be a fun night when they are around.

Guys,

Any recommended venues?

On my way to Japan, I have a transit time of 5 hrs on 19 th March& 4 hrs on 15 th March. Is it possible to do any worthwhile mongering during that time? I have been to k pressure. 37D & 141 last year but have no idea if there any worthy places near to Airport. I can't afford to miss my connecting flight Appreciate some tips so that Transit becomes transcendental or whatever.

[QUOTE=Jacky1973; 1255634]Guys,

Any recommended venues?[/QUOTE]Blue Sky Sauna, Percival &? Lockhart? Ish. There is an HSBC and McDonald's around the corner on the ground floor. Once you go up the escalator on the right you will see a sauna attendant and an elevator that will take you in. I have not tried it yet (but am planning to). The manager pretty quickly ran down the price list, HK $6XX for regular 90 min massage, $7XX or $8XX for a HJ and about $11XX for FS.

If you try it, file a report!

[QUOTE=Purayil;1255657]On my way to Japan, I have a transit time of 5 hrs on 19 th March& 4 hrs on 15 th March. Is it possible to do any worthwhile mongering during that time? I have been to k pressure. 37D & 141 last year but have no idea if there any worthy places near to Airport. I can't afford to miss my connecting flight Appreciate some tips so that Transit becomes transcendental or whatever.[/QUOTE]Not enough time.

Don't know of any venues near the airport and not enough time to travel to Wanchai / Central.

You need +6hrs

Funny story.

Speaking to a good friend / worker at Escape.

Told me that her friend got a guy out of Escape 3000 for long-time. Left after the guy came once. Said she had to go back to Escape.

Guy came back to escape the next night. The girl couldn't understand why the guy didn't take her out the next night.

Guys beware!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1256096]Funny story.

Speaking to a good friend / worker at Escape.

Told me that her friend got a guy out of Escape 3000 for long-time. Left after the guy came once. Said she had to go back to Escape.

Guy came back to escape the next night. The girl couldn't understand why the guy didn't take her out the next night.

Guys beware![/QUOTE]Probably the real story is that the deal was for $1, 500. She told you that she got $3, 000 and he told his friends he paid $500 for ST.

Friend of mine Keith, aka 'The Legend' goes down to Neptune's 2, walks straight up to 3 hot Filipinas and warns them that the Police are on the way and they should find a place to hide out for a few hours. They panic and wonder where to go. 'Don't worry, ' he says, 'my place is just nearby. ' 6 months later and he is still smiling when he recounts how eager they were to demonstrate their gratitude after arriving at his place. Gratis, of course.

[QUOTE=Apac Man;1256098]Probably the real story is that the deal was for $1, 500. She told you that she got $3, 000 and he told his friends he paid $500 for ST.[/QUOTE]The story is true.

My friend and this girl always stand together at Escape. Sometimes do threesomes together. They know each other's business.

Know this girl well and she is known for agreeing to LT (for a high price). And leaving after one shot. Most guys will not give her the full amount after this happens.

I know my friend told her this is not a good way to get regular customers.

[QUOTE=Lewis And Clark;1256132]Friend of mine Keith, aka 'The Legend' goes down to Neptune's 2, walks straight up to 3 hot Filipinas and warns them that the Police are on the way and they should find a place to hide out for a few hours. They panic and wonder where to go. 'Don't worry, ' he says, 'my place is just nearby. ' 6 months later and he is still smiling when he recounts how eager they were to demonstrate their gratitude after arriving at his place. Gratis, of course.[/QUOTE]Keith sounds like my kinda guy. I happen to have just rented a place not so far away from Wanchai. Will have to give that a try once I receive my keys. LOL

Just had a nice 45 min session with a cheerful Thai cutie in one of those walkup brothels on Reclamation Street in Kowloon. Only HK$320 for a very nice blowjob and shag session. I saw a few other hotties going in and out of the pink signed buildings on that street and also Shanghai and Portland Streets at around 10pm this foggy evening. Recommended for any of you guys who just want a quick, cheap shag.

[QUOTE=Lewis And Clark;1256132]Friend of mine Keith, aka 'The Legend' goes down to Neptune's 2, walks straight up to 3 hot Filipinas and warns them that the Police are on the way and they should find a place to hide out for a few hours. They panic and wonder where to go. 'Don't worry, ' he says, 'my place is just nearby. ' 6 months later and he is still smiling when he recounts how eager they were to demonstrate their gratitude after arriving at his place. Gratis, of course.[/QUOTE]Brilliant! Might just try this next week! LOL

[QUOTE=Purayil;1255657]On my way to Japan, I have a transit time of 5 hrs on 19 th March& 4 hrs on 15 th March. Is it possible to do any worthwhile mongering during that time? I have been to k pressure. 37D & 141 last year but have no idea if there any worthy places near to Airport. I can't afford to miss my connecting flight Appreciate some tips so that Transit becomes transcendental or whatever.[/QUOTE]Not possible in 5 hours. There is a massage place at the airport, but I assume no HEs available there, have never seen a report on it.

[QUOTE=Apac Man;1256098]Probably the real story is that the deal was for $1, 500. She told you that she got $3, 000 and he told his friends he paid $500 for ST.[/QUOTE]LOL, you know how the system works! We're all the same! Well summed up!

Too much to eat and drink on the long haul 15 hour flight resulted in just a cursory visit to Wan Chai tonight to see what was happening.

Streets looked fairly quiet and only called into Neptune 111 which was reasonably busy between 10pm and 11pm with a fair number of available girls. You would not need to be too fussy. Was about to leave when a girl sitting on her own at the bar caught my eye. You can guess the rest, but for a modest HK$500, was good value for money. Claims not to have sex for 9 months and also to be a DW who works only 4 hours a day and has the rest of the time to herself. She was overkeen to get me to commit to her for the rest of my stay. We shall see.

Finally, I can categorically confirm beyong any doubt following on close examination, that Chantik is a woman. And a very nice one too.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1257415]Finally, I can categorically confirm beyong any doubt following on close examination, that Chantik is a woman. And a very nice one too.[/QUOTE]Good news! I am surprised nobody came out yet with the hint she is a newly born woman and of a different gender in the birth certificate. That's the only thing missing in this thread of doubts about someone posting here with useful information and insights.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1257415]Finally, I can categorically confirm beyong any doubt following on close examination, that Chantik is a woman. And a very nice one too.[/QUOTE]Now I really do hate you JTL2.

You have had the pleasure of inspecting Chantik at close quarters, but my understanding is that "Wanchai Boys" are off the invite list.

How precisely I am a Wanchai Boy but you are not escapes me.

Must be that I need to change my cologne. (Wink)

Seriously, good luck you lucky dog.

As regards free lance talent, the girls are indeed massing for the forthcoming Sevens influx. I have met already three old friends returning for a 2 week stint, and am off right now to meet a fourth. (Oh dear, perhaps I just proved Chantik's point about Wanchai Boys etc.)

Cheers

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1257461]Good news! I am surprised nobody came out yet with the hint she is a newly born woman and of a different gender in the birth certificate. That's the only thing missing in this thread of doubts about someone posting here with useful information and insights.[/QUOTE]Hear hear Bionicman.

Gaijin G has been conspicuous in his continued silence on this issue. Just not man enough to fess up and say he was wrong. Oh well, just more of the good ole boys "semper fi" spirit, I suspect.

Oh, of course, I am on GG's (fairly extensive) ignore list because I don't agree with his blinkered thinking. Must be my loss.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1257662].

You have had the pleasure of inspecting Chantik at close quarters, but my understanding is that "Wanchai Boys" are off the invite list.

How precisely I am a Wanchai Boy but you are not escapes me.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Probably down to my good looks, suave appearance, youthfulness, engaging conversation and patter, money and much more that modesty prevents me from mentioning.

Suggestion. Why don't you PM her? You never know!

Navy is in town.

Got to run. Not to the navy!

Lots of girls out tonight. Sexy Denise (Indo) is back in HK. She is on a few websites. She always goes to Escape. Sits at the bar. Has BIG earrings.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1257662]Now I really do hate you JTL2.

You have had the pleasure of inspecting Chantik at close quarters, but my understanding is that "Wanchai Boys" are off the invite list.

How precisely I am a Wanchai Boy but you are not escapes me.

Must be that I need to change my cologne. (Wink)

Seriously, good luck you lucky dog.

As regards free lance talent, the girls are indeed massing for the forthcoming Sevens influx. I have met already three old friends returning for a 2 week stint, and am off right now to meet a fourth. (Oh dear, perhaps I just proved Chantik's point about Wanchai Boys etc.)

Cheers[/QUOTE]Uncle.

The last paragraph shows that you are a 'Wanchai Guy".

Hit Joe Bananas just after 10. 00pm. Getting busy and a flood of Thais come in. Its ladies night. A small group of four sit beside me at the bar and one of them makes all the conversation but I have eyes for a very pretty girl who tells me its her first visit to HK. Her English was not so good but she was a total stunner, and just like "the girl next door". I was sorely empted but she was attracting a fair bit of attention and I was happy to get a phone number. The talkative one of the group soon let it be known that the standard price of $1500 for ST still stood. Too much for me.

Called in at Neptune 111. Busy and getting busier. Betty from Last year makes a play but I don't recognise her at first. Embarassing. Then I remember her and am interested but even after a few tequilas I can't get her below $2000 for LT. When I am about to leave she drops the price to $800 for ST. Too late. Joy from last night turns up but appears to have company althought she promises to phone me when she is free. I'm still waiting. That's her off my "will do it again" list.

Tries Borocay. Have seen more people in a phone box. Enough said.

Its 1. 00am and New Makati is on the horizon. It was like a conveyor belt in there. Girls coming in whilst others were leaving with their conquests but nothing turned my eye. I decide to cut my stay short and head back to the hotel for a much earned break.

An interesting side attraction was a dispute on the corner involving the Police and a drunk Chinese guy who was having an altercation with one or two others. Common sense would indicate you don't start fighting the Police but he obviously did not have any and he was soon hucked off in a wagon. Silly man.

Looked into a few of the bars mentioned in earlier reports - Bar 109, Old China Hand, Queen Victoria etc but all almost completetly empty about 2.00am.

Looking on the plus side, a considerable financial saving, making up for last night's expensive sortee.

Look forward to your reports.

They add color to the board.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1257663]Hear hear Bionicman.

Gaijin G has been conspicuous in his continued silence on this issue. Just not man enough to fess up and say he was wrong. Oh well, just more of the good ole boys "semper fi" spirit, I suspect.

Oh, of course, I am on GG's (fairly extensive) ignore list because I don't agree with his blinkered thinking. Must be my loss.

Cheers[/QUOTE]It's so weird that the ignore list is for people you don't want to see your posts rather than people whose posts you don't want to see. I've never seen that except on this forum.

Anyway, for GG to do that shows you what kind of person you're dealing with. I feel fortunate not to see his posts anymore.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1257801]Look forward to your reports.

They add color to the board.[/QUOTE]You're too kind!

But then I already know that anyway!

Oh dear oh dear. The weakness of the flesh. I have just finished my earlier report and am tucked up in bed (alone) when Betty phones. She agrees the $800 and 10 minutes later I am meeting her in the lobby to bring her up to my room.

I should have noticed that the attention she was paying me in Neptune 111 (all over like a rash) was diluted quite considerably in my room. The warning bell should have sounded but I did not hear it. Cut a long story short, she was the worst shag I have ever had. Less than 1 hour later she was off. I should have remembered from last year she does not kiss. A turn off for me. I considered reducing the payment but decided to cut my losses.

Be warned guys. She is half Thai, half Chinese. Good looking and I would say the wrong side of 30. Carries a little weight, but don't we all. Fabulous upper half that reminded me, when in cowboy position, of bench presses a long time ago in my fitness days.

Don't touch with a barge pole!

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1257875]Be warned guys. She is half Thai, half Chinese. Good looking and I would say the wrong side of 30. Carries a little weight, but don't we all. Fabulous upper half that reminded me, when in cowboy position, of bench presses a long time ago in my fitness days.

Don't touch with a barge pole![/QUOTE]Bummer of a time but thanks for the warning out there. Then again I don't know that I'll ever have the chance to carouse HK in the future. Waaa.

2 things that generally steer me away from a bar girl:

Really hot looking.

Aggressive attention in the bar.

2 things that give me a woody from a bar girl:

Not asking for a drink.

Tickling my tonsils with her tongue.

What gets you folks all hot or not?

The Tanuki

[QUOTE=The Tanuki;1257967]What gets you folks all hot or not?[/QUOTE]For me, my biggest turnon has always been a long, straight, black dinner dress. The girls who can pull it off always have the kinda figure I like. Biggest turn-off is when they spoil it by wearing thongs, but I'm the kinda kuy who always pays attention to the detail.

Forgot to pass this on.

Did a job (all nighter with a gf) last week. Client who liked spending money. Decided to get a third girl. Called Agency. Asked for Thai Girl in pic. Girl arrived. Singapore girl arrived. Nice girl. But very limited in her service and kept on asking for extras. For every little thing.

Client was surprised at her lack of experience and the expense.

Beware.

Only a few navy guys around. Must be a small ship. Bad luck for the bars. They will make up for it next week.

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1257967]2 things that give me a woody from a bar girl:

Not asking for a drink.

Tickling my tonsils with her tongue.

The Tanuki[/QUOTE]I agree completely, particularly the "not asking for a drink" bit. Also if you get good vibes it helps, not to mention a bit of close contact where it matters!

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1258041]I agree completely, particularly the "not asking for a drink" bit. Also if you get good vibes it helps, not to mention a bit of close contact where it matters![/QUOTE]Jack.

Maybe the girl from my previous post is related to your worst shag.

Few navy guys in town. So lots of competition for girls.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1258125]Jack.

Maybe the girl from my previous post is related to your worst shag.[/QUOTE]Good one, and you could be right LOL!

A bit of business means I can't get to the flesh pots of Wan Chai until 11. 30pm. I am tipped off by PM that the Navy is in town but that it must be a small ship as the effect is almost neglible. Certainly no signs of them in the strangely quiet streets. Even the usual pavement crowd outside Les Ami is not there.

Like a creature of habit I make my way to Neptune 111 which is surprisingly busy. The mamasan tells me the Navy have been in in small numbers but are now away. They must have an early curfew. I am asked if "I want a girl" but I politely decline. Mamasan Pearla and her assistant, Aiko, are forever trying to hook up customers. Must be good for the drink business. For those who frequent the place, there is always a selection sitting at the tables on the LHS of the bar as you go in.

A beer is kindly put up by papasan Sam and I am minding my own business but spot a very attractive girl sitting on her own. I make the journey of 2 steps over to her to strike up a conversation. She is wearing the traditional Philipina national LBD which stops half way down the thigh. Very nice. But she hardly speaks any English, and combined with the noise of the band, it's a struggle and I reluctantly give up and go back to the bar.

Lo and behold, Joy sidles up, full of appologies for not having phoned last night- she had run out of load. She too is in a LBD which turns me on and I forgive her but, playing it cool, tell her I am only out for a beer and I might see her later. Off she goes to the end of the bar on her own. I start thinking about depositing another kind of load and after a while invite her back to join me. A couple of tequilas later at a staggering $150 each and I have made up my mind. She is keen to make amends for last night. We leave just after midnight and suffice to say I had a very nice GFE night. She had to leave no later that 4. 00 as she started work at 6. 00. I let her go early. I'm badly in need of sleep. And pay the DH rate of $500 which she is happy to receive.

Neptune 111 was packed one minute and half empty the next, as if a bus comes in and leaves 10 minutes later.

I make up my mind that I must broaden my horizons tomorrow and see what the other places have to offer. I have a feeling I could get "tied down" by Joy, nice that she is.
Watch the price of the ladies drinks as I notice they are mostly now getting doubles and this could run up a tidy bill at the end of the night. Important to make the deal before you spend too much!

[QUOTE=Chantik;1258021]Only a few navy guys around. Must be a small ship. Bad luck for the bars. They will make up for it next week.[/QUOTE]The Blue Ridge is in town at present. As most of you will know already it is flagship for the Commander of the USA Navy's 7th Fleet. It has about 1500 guys on board.

I bought a beer for a few of them at Handle Bar last night. They insist that a carrier is coming to town on Monday 19th, subject of course to PRC approval. They might be wrong or just pulling my leg, but that is what they said.

Cheers.

Somebody was asking a couple of weeks ago where to get cialis.

The Man Sang Dispensary at the corner of Wan Chai Road and Tin Lok Lane (2 minutes from Times Square) has cialis at $400 for a pack of four.

(Not that I use it I may add).

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1258235]The Blue Ridge is in town at present. As most of you will know already it is flagship for the Commander of the USA Navy's 7th Fleet. It has about 1500 guys on board.

I bought a beer for a few of them at Handle Bar last night. They insist that a carrier is coming to town on Monday 19th, subject of course to PRC approval. They might be wrong or just pulling my leg, but that is what they said.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Sorry to miss you Uncle Goober. Looked out for you in Handle Bar as I was staying at the Luk Kwok.

Spent the week in Wan Chai. All was well. New Makati is buzzing with some pretty young Indo's (and some not so young or pretty ones as well!)

Rather than bore you all with a full account just a few observations:

Navy impact was low although it brought out the girls many of whom I suspect have arrived early for the rugby. New Makati was busy last night with Navy guys but was was more interesting was it was packed with girls outnumbering men 2 to 1 I would say. My regular was saying there were a lot of new faces.

QUESTION: There is a group of hot Indonesians led by a tiny little girl who usually wears little shorts, great dancer. What is there game? They brush off most approaches and I have seen them spend all night dancing together with none going out. Anyone know them and their 'status'? I have never approached them because too shy and don't want to be rejected in front of the crowd.

Tuesday met a lovely filipina in Amazonia. She said she usually hangs out in Escape. I bought her a couple of drinks and we chatted for about an hour. Quoted a stupid price (LT $5, 000!) so I demurred. Later that night stumbled across her again in Neptune 2 while on my way back to hotel. She said lets go and we went back to hotel. Very good night and a significant (I. E. 80%) reduction on her original price. Don't know why and don't care. Was a night to remember. Some real gems out there

I'm usually anti Navy but last night even though there were plenty of them in NMak it was still a good place to be. Maybe I have misjudged them in the past or because I was with my regular I could just watch their antics without having to worry about the impact on the availability of girls.

Overall a good week. Wan Chai was fun and lots of great girls to enjoy. Glad I won't be there for the rugby crowds though.

CT

CT.

Think the difference in New Makati and in Lockhart Road was that there was no hip hop / Rap music coming out of the bars.

It can be annoying.

Popped into NM for a drink last night and thought the ratio was about 2 guys for one girl.

Maybe a timing difference or I see women and you see men.

I was in a beige jacket with a small girl in black dress. Maybe we saw each other if you were sat at bar.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1258397]CT.

Popped into NM for a drink last night and thought the ratio was about 2 guys for one girl.[/QUOTE]

Chantik. You must have left NM before I visited the place because it was heaving when I went in about 11. 00pm and there were far more girls than boys!

I was at the tables just to the right of the dance floor and was interested in a young good looking girl who was quite chatty. We had a couple of drinks but conversation is difficult because of the disco noise. She did tell me however that it was the wrong time of the month so I cut my losses. Before NM I went to Joe Bananas. Busy and I stood outside. I was approached by a stunning beautiful Thai girl just arrived in HK. She would have eaten me alive but I had a good laugh with her and after a while, pointed her in the direction of Escape. I dare not ask her fees but did get her phone number. I don't see myself using it.

Left NM and went to Neptune 111. Very busy and lots of girls. I speak to Joy but lie and tell her I am looking for a friend and leave after a beer. She was looking good however and keep my options open for later if need be.

Had a quick visit to Insider. Almost empty but a cute looking Colombian offered her services for $1500 without me even asking. I declined.

Called in at Borocay. Crap as usual. Looked into Escape. Fairly busy but lots of guys there. Neptune 11 next on the list. Again guys outnumbered the girls. The navy was around but not presenting a problem, or even any competition.

Returned to NM. Was not in the place 2 minutes when a horny Indoniasian DW literally latches on to me. A couple of drinks later and she is asking me to take her to my hotel. I duly oblige and find that for the second time in my life I have met a complete nympho. She just could not get enough of it and would have gone all night if I had not insisted in having a break. Poor English, reasonably good looking and a lovely smile. Her employer is on holiday for 3 weeks and have left her to fend for herself without any wages. She lives in an agency boarding house in Monkok. No mention of money and I feel bad just giving her the going rate of $500 plus a $100 tip when she leaves in the morning. She wanted to stay with me all day but the lack of her English would have been a strain. I promise to meet her tonight.
Question. Why is it that just as the girl leaves your room and you are standing there in the buff, that the hotel maid walks by?

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory;1258342]Sorry to miss you Uncle Goober. Looked out for you in Handle Bar as I was staying at the Luk Kwok.[/QUOTE]CT. Lost my phone and therefore your number. Please PM me your number, or just text me so I can capture it. Sorry to have missed you.

I was in HB last night from about 8 till 10, and before that at Spicy.

Cheers

Well, it sounds like a lot of this gang was there (Friday night). I was there from about 10:30-midnightish and it seems like there were many more dudes than usual, but hardly impossible odds. I did not see the Navy boys pulling much action, but then again I wasn't all that interested in them.

I have also observed girls not looking for customers and have experienced it firsthand. There is one intriguing girl, tall and slender Indonesian with features I would say seem Malaysian (or reminds me of a Malaysian girl from waaaay back. Says her name is Rea. I have on occasion spoken briefly with her but generally get the brush off, so I don't know if she's just trying to run up drinks or whatnot. She tells me the reason she doesn't like me is because I don't buy her drinks. I laugh and tell her she's got things backward. I earlier posted about a LuLu / Ruby and her stalker-looking "boyfriend / whatever". Saw them again together there last week. So to sum up, you just never know what you're going to get. I like the vibe at NM but generally drift over to Neptune II, where it's mostly allllll business, if a bit hardcore.

Thanks for the recent reports. From them, it seems that New Makati is the place to go. The last time I was here, it was Neptunes that was number 1 with lots of girls from all nations. Has it deteriorated much?

I was wondering about visiting Harrys Bar, before doing a tour of the clubs Fenwicks / Neptunes and then finishing at New Makati. Does that sound a reasonable plan? Is there anywhere else that you would recommend?

What about Sunday afternoon? Are any of the malls worth visiting for DH on the prowl? I think that I went to Neptunes on the Sunday early evening and it was very lively, so I'll head that way again.

I'll report back.

Peter

[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1258605]Thanks for the recent reports. From them, it seems that New Makati is the place to go. The last time I was here, it was Neptunes that was number 1 with lots of girls from all nations. Has it deteriorated much?

I was wondering about visiting Harrys Bar, before doing a tour of the clubs Fenwicks / Neptunes and then finishing at New Makati. Does that sound a reasonable plan? Is there anywhere else that you would recommend?

What about Sunday afternoon? Are any of the malls worth visiting for DH on the prowl? I think that I went to Neptunes on the Sunday early evening and it was very lively, so I'll head that way again.

I'll report back.

Peter[/QUOTE]

To assist in your deliberations, I would look into Neptune but there are some recent reports in the last week or so, on which I agree, that it is more "Pro", lesser quality / talent and an older crowd. It certainly has deteriorated in recent years as most posts seem to indicate.

Hari's bar would not be on my list. Expensive take out prices and a restricted number availalble.

Try a look into Neptune 111. It is right accros the road from Escape, which used to be Fenwicks. Again this has gone downhill over the years, particularly after it reopened as Escape. Prices tend, for some reason, to be higher in there. Personally I think Neptune 111 has improved since it opened.

For Sunday pm, you can't look past NM.

Just my personal thoughts as you can always get lucky almost anywhere these days. Joe Bananas for Thais if they rock your boat.

[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1258605]I was wondering about visiting Harrys Bar, before doing a tour of the clubs Fenwicks / Neptunes and then finishing at New Makati. Does that sound a reasonable plan?

I'll report back.

Peter[/QUOTE]I think people fishing at Harry's Bar are a different league of Wanchai and so are the girls. I mean price wise and expectations. You can of course do both, but if you are ready for Wanchai, I do not see the point of going to Harry's other for browsing the scene around. That bar only be more expensive. A situation similar to Singapore's Brix and OT (where even girls commute from one to the other).

[QUOTE=Petertaylor;1258605]I was wondering about visiting Harrys Bar, before doing a tour of the clubs Fenwicks / Neptunes and then finishing at New Makati. Does that sound a reasonable plan? Is there anywhere else that you would recommend?[/QUOTE]Hari's Bar in the Golden Mile is very much hit or miss from what I've seen. Last time in town when I looked early, there was nothing to pick from. But when I was there around 11:30 on a Wed night, there was some talent. No SYT's and the prices are high and not very negotiable. But drinks are 2 for 1 before 9.

Kowloon side is more for saunas, massage joints and SW's it seemed to me. I do happen to like Sticky Fingers a lot because the music is great. You'll get a few girls in there but not too many.

The Tanuki

I was in Neptune 2 and Escape for a little while in the early hours of the morning.

Had a drink with friends in the shadows. Both places were a little quiet for a Friday. Seemed to be an even amount of girls and guys. Many Columbians in Escape.

One of my regulars was in Escape. (of course was discreet). He emailed me today stating that he was with his wife.

He was impressed with my discretion.

Where can I find real japanese girls?

Also.

Are the 141 hotel walk up legal?

And.

Are those foot massage, ang mo places always have full service available?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1258673]One of my regulars was in Escape. (of course was discreet). He emailed me today stating that he was with his wife.

He was impressed with my discretion.[/QUOTE]From what I know you here I would not have doubt of your professionalism in such an issue.

Well done young lady

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1258688]From what I know you here I would not have doubt of your professionalism in such an issue.

Well done young lady[/QUOTE]Never come up to a client in public. Let the guy do it. He knows his circumstance at that time.

[QUOTE=Skyh Skyh; 1258684]Where can I find real japanese girls?

Also.

Are the 141 hotel walk up legal?

And.

Are those foot massage, ang mo places always have full service available?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Ansers to your questions:-

Japan.

Yes.

No

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1258625].Try a look into Neptune 111. It is right accros the road from Escape, which used to be Fenwicks. Again this has gone downhill over the years, particularly after it reopened as Escape. Prices tend, for some reason, to be higher in there. Personally I think Neptune 111 has improved since it opened.[/QUOTE]You always say Neptune 11 and Neptune 111. If you ask for directions on the street nobody would understand.

It is Neptune II and Neptune III (Roman numbers) which translates into Neptune2 and Neptune3 (There was once a Neptune I which closed over 10 years ago).

[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1258825]You always say Neptune 11 and Neptune 111. If you ask for directions on the street nobody would understand.

Thanks for being so correct but I disagree.

Anyone asking for directions would be asking for Neptune two and Neptune three, not Neptune eleven and Neptune one hundred and eleven as it appears to be written. At least if they were fron the West, they would.

Not a lot to report as my nympho DW from yesterday wanted to see me again and, being a gentleman, I did not refuse. I did reject the 7. 30pm meeting request, settling for 10. 00pm in NM. True to Indonisian form, she arrive at 11. 00pm. The place is busy but the men outnumber the ladies. Lots of rugby shirts present. After a drink she asked to go to Forrest as the smoke in NM was getting to her. What a surprise I got! It was jumping with lots of talent on show. The quality looked a few notches up from NM. The streets were packed. There must have been several hundred outside Delaneys, spilling right onto the street with the same outside Mes Amis. The Navy is present but no problem, and no competion. Most seem intent in drinking. Big guys and I would not like to tangle with some of their women either. Come 12. 30 my DW want to see my hotel room again and all I will say an enjoyable night (and morning) was had by all.

I get a twinge of conscious parting with a measly $500 plus a tip.

A fellow ISG punter sent me a PM asking for her phone number. I have a rule I don't give out information such as names or phone numbers on DW's as she is not a WG and she has a job and you have to be careful. Sorry, but you know who you are. You can always go to NM, where there are plenty DW's hanging about there. You are unlikely to fail.

On Sunday afternoon I go for a walk. I go into NM at exactly 3. 30pm. There are 8 girls and no men. I head over to Forrest. It is busy, lots of girls and you have to fight them off. I am not interested as I am truly done in from the trysts of the last two nights. After a beer I head back to my hotel but take another look into NM. It is 4. 30pm, one hour later. The place is jumping! The flesh is weaker than I thought as a girl at the bar next to me persuades me I need company for an hour or so. I give in and agree. Funnily enough she asks for $700, I say $500. She says $600. I say $500. She says OK and off we go.

Wow! What a turn she is and lots of GFE. But I have difficulty performing and its only after a blow job that I am to it. Pity she only has a Sunday off as I would repeat in a minute.

Tonight has to be a quiet one. I have nothing left inside me.

Thought that was a familiar face in Makati around 5pm.

Agree with Jack that the bars were quieter than usual in late afternoon.

Tip for the guys. Think you will find cuter girls at Forest on Sunday afternoon.

Also Forest is very quiet during the week. But gets a good crowd Sat or Sun.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1258825]It is Neptune II and Neptune III (Roman numbers)[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1258499]Chantik. You must have left NM before I visited the place because it was heaving when I went in about 11. 00pm and there were far more girls than boys![/QUOTE]Many moons ago, I remember first stepping into what I think was NII with three other young bucks. We were mobbed by DHs as the place was packed with DHs and a couple old geezers. Ratio was like 20 girls to 1 guy. Nowadays, as my eyes fade but I have the Sight from hobgoblin spit, I see more WGs than DHs. There are also a lot more youth challenged guys.

I can say that today's batch of WGs in Wanchai have not look as good for a long time. For the past several months, there were so many aesthetically challenged gals that I thought there was an epidemic or crack down somewhere. It is a relief to see that the problem has passed.

Wanchai was hopping today. I heard it was also a zoo last night. So enjoy and play safe.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober;1258513]Lost my phone[/QUOTE]I was wondering how those ladies get the latest smart phones. LOL. UG, sorry about your run of bad luck this week but things can only get better. Maybe Chantik will also modify her Wanchai regular criteria / definition so that you can slide in under the revised guidelines.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1258989]UG, sorry about your run of bad luck this week but things can only get better. Maybe Chantik will also modify her Wanchai regular criteria / definition so that you can slide in under the revised guidelines.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for your support, Boarer.

How JTL2 was able to meet Chantik (notwithstanding the fact that he gets much more action than I do) , and how she has a "regular" who she spots in Escape with his wife but still doesn't ban him, yet I am sent to Purda seemingly in perpetuity as a "Wanchai Boy" makes me scratch my head.

The only explanation I can think of is that Chantik must have seen me and is being too polite to say that I am too old, too fat and / or too ugly. (I am not too poor, so that can't be the reason. LOL.)

Anyways, Boarer, thanks for your support. PM me if ever you want to catch up for a beer. My shout.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober;1258995]How JTL2 was able to meet Chantik[/QUOTE]LOL. Stephen Hawking is said to spend several hours a day thinking about and trying to understand women. And it still eludes him.

Maybe Chantik counts the number of weeks one spends in Wanchai. Hence, JTL2's one week with 5 tags per day (JTL2, excuse me if I am underestimating, heh heh) still counts as one. That might yields an annual count of 3. While UG's weekly jaunts down to Wanchai brings his number closer to 50, regardless of whether his take home is a kebab or a long black hair.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1258995]Many thanks for your support, Boarer.

How JTL2 was able to meet Chantik (notwithstanding the fact that he gets much more action than I do) , and how she has a "regular" who she spots in Escape with his wife but still doesn't ban him, yet I am sent to Purda seemingly in perpetuity as a "Wanchai Boy" makes me scratch my head.[/QUOTE]LOL. No doubt about it, based on what I am reading here JTL2 is most definitely Wan Chai Hall of Fame material, or at least a damned good prospect. So, yeah, what's the deal Chantik? He must be very very hansum man, or got good game!

Hey Guys.

- D / H with iphone. Young, pretty and naughty D / H always have the latest version of the I Phone. Thanks to the guys.

- Good on Jack for only paying 500 on a Sunday. Stick to that price and the D / H will follow.

- Older guys are my best clients. So any decision is not age driven.

Must run and pack my suitcases for my trip to Singapore

And then run off to meet an OZ punter from PP.

Sweet Dreams.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1258499]Question. Why is it that just as the girl leaves your room and you are standing there in the buff, that the hotel maid walks by?[/QUOTE]So you can fuck her too without much build-up of course.

[QUOTE=Skyh Skyh; 1258684]Where can I find real japanese girls?

Also.

Are the 141 hotel walk up legal?

And.

Are those foot massage, ang mo places always have full service available?

Thanks[/QUOTE]You can search for Japanese on 141, the expensive hotel reservation girls are really Japanese I believe.

141 is legal.

Foot massage places usually don't have extras.

A bit of of genuine work related business/dinner keeps me occupied until 11. 30pm. I decide a walk is needed before I retire for the night. My first port of call is NM and there are still plenty of available girls, but of course, I am in denial. Next stop Forrest. Totally empty.

Neptune III (note the spelling Tiger 888) is next on the list. Quiet, but two of my previous conquests make an approach, Joy and Betty. I make it clear I am only in for a beer and they take the hint.

I make my way through Escape and find that is where everyone is tonight! Very busy and plenty offering their services.

Neptune II (note again Tiger) is next on my tick list but it is fairly quiet although the girls outnumber the boys.

Back to NM where I bump into a couple of guys and we have a few beers until we are thrown out at closing time (2. 30am). A lonely looking girl sitting by herself attracts the fatherly instinct in me and I strike up a conversation with her. Not really my cup of tea, but we chat away and I buy her a drink. An expensive one I may add. When the place is closing she asks me if she can come back to my hotel. I'm still keeping to my promise of having a night of celibacy, but I ask, purely for research purposes, the cost, bearing in mind she is a DW. She would not move from $1000. One of the guys I was with was not too sure if "she" was a girl. We will never know now.
Thought I saw some of the lady boys that hang around Delaneys being lifted by LE.

Read all the recent reports guys (and Chantik). In a nice way, I had a laugh at some of the comments and will respond to them when I am sober.

Wonder what it will be like to go to bed on my own tonight.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1259068]So you can fuck her too without much build-up of course.[/QUOTE]I like it! LOL

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1259012]- Good on Jack for only paying 500 on a Sunday. Stick to that price and the D / H will follow.

- Older guys are my best clients. So any decision is not age driven.

Must run and pack my suitcases for my trip to Singapore[/QUOTE]Thanks for that!

Thanks for that too!

Have a great time in Singapore.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1259011]LOL. No doubt about it, based on what I am reading here JTL2 is most definitely Wan Chai Hall of Fame material, or at least a damned good prospect. So, yeah, what's the deal Chantik? He must be very very hansum man, or got good game![/QUOTE]Yep. I had a good laugh too!

Chantik is far too professional to answer your last question! LOL.

If only you knew me. You would not believe!

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1259005].

Hence, JTL2's one week with 5 tags per day (JTL2, excuse me if I am underestimating, heh heh) still counts as one.[/QUOTE]LOL again. One tag a day is now beginning to be an achievement for me, so much so that medical research is interested in how I sustain it now.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1259012]- D / H with iphone. Young, pretty and naughty D / H always have the latest version of the I Phone. Thanks to the guys.[/QUOTE]Ah yes. I know I am hard wired to give in to those deep dark round eyes.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober;1258995]The only explanation I can think of is that Chantik must have seen me and is being too polite to say that I am too old, too fat and / or too ugly.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Chantik;1259012]Older guys are my best clients. So any decision is not age driven[/QUOTE]You heard it here first Mr. Goober. You are too fat and ugly. Maybe a diet will boost your chances?

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1259245]Yep. I had a good laugh too!

Chantik is far too professional to answer your last question! LOL.

If only you knew me. You would not believe![/QUOTE]Oh, I'm sure you the man!

And now that Chantik has let it slip that she is not above stepping in to New Makati "to meet a friend" or somesuch, I am now in the habit of asking girls their name before they ask mine (in the event that she should introduce herself by the name she uses in the website link she PM'ed me. Some of the girls are a bit taken aback when I do the "Where you from? Waaaaaas yoooooouuuur naaaame?"

Had a very pleasurable night tonight (Monday) at NM. I hung out for a few minutes near the back bar 'round 11ish. Another punter and I were enjoying the sexy ass-shaking of a friendly little Indo in a tight, light blue dress. But the best part is that I.

I was there for an hour and left, sans beer goggles, with a wonderful little thing whose status I had been wondering about for a couple weeks. My inquiry to this site brought encouragement to giver her a try, so I did. Good fortune had it that the girl's stalker Ausssie "boyfriend" (who suggested back when that his girl "liked to get a rise out the old timers". Well, this "old timer" tapped his GF, LOL) was nowhere in sight. If you've been to NM you'd know her by the dancing, and I am pleased to report that she is as enthusiastic in bed as she is on the dancefloor. All the positions (she loved DATY and doggie, and if she did not she was a damned good actress. Far be it from the DH / WG crowd to put on a performance!)

One minor issue is that pricing had not been nailed down before we got to my flat, despite my broaching the subject during the short cab ride to my flat. As she wanted ST, and I prefer LT, she laughed hysterically when I suggested $500HK, slightly less so when I upped it to $800. Then she asked for cab fare back to the club to rejoin her friends. It seemed like a terrible waste, so I asked her exactly what she was expecting, and added that I was not about to offer a ridiculous sum. The amount was $1000, and sorry, fellows, I know it was on the high side to me for ST, but I was not disappointed. The process was not rushed, and the nice sloppy CIM / facial finish. Which she apparently enjoyed, having rushed to the mirror to admire my, er, handiwork. Was priceless. The stuff of porn, my friends, and bless the Indonesia for creating such a beautiful creature! Would I repeat? I will budget, and do, though I will be requesting a frequent customer discount or making it not so frequent, as $1K for ST seems on the high side, but one can make a good case for quality here, and I did enjoy.

And one funny thing about the liaison is that it was encouraged by another tall, short-haired dark-skinned slender girl named Rea, one who had been put-offish just a few days previous. I will buy Rea her drink next time.

My nympho DW sends me an SMS and we arrange to meet in Forrest at 10. 30pm. I take it that means she will be there by 11. 00pm so I call into NM at 10. 30pm. Its fairly busy and I have a beer. As is the custom, a Filipino girl makes a play for me at the bar and, being polite, I return the conversation. She has her arms round me and is gyrating etc etc into me. I eventually extract myself to go over to Forrest and am outside in the street when I get a text from nympho. She is going absolutely bananas as she has been in NM and sees me with the other girl. She accuses me of all sorts of wrong doings, almost to the extent I was shagging her at the bar! She sends quick fire about 8 texts in a row going totally balistic. I don't even have a chance to respond. WTF. I've had enough.

Anyway I head for Forrest. There are two girls there plus the bar staff.

I make my way to Neptune III and despite my protestations, Mamasan Pearla fixes me up with an attractive looking Filipina. I buy her a couple of drinks and I stear the conversation round to "how much". She tells me she is only interested in drinks commission. I politely excuse myself and return to NM, where I bump into the same girl that was all over me. A drink later and she tells me she is a WG and quotes $2000 for ST. Interestingly, she makes the point to me that she "is not an Indonisian girl that goes for $500". I decide to see what else is available. There is plenty but no one ticks all my boxes and I go for another stroll outside. All the time I am being bombarded with texts from nympho. Unreal. I try to make peace with her but she won't listen or see reason. It's as if she is stalking me as she seems to know my every move.

I return to Neptune III which has got strangely quiet even for a Monday and after a beer decide to return to Forrest to see if it has got any busier. I see a couple of girls I know eating in the Thai Hut and stop for a chat. The LE are out in the street checking some girl's visas etc and I warn the girls in the Thai Hut but they say they are OK. The girl on the elevator works a flanker and takes me to Traffic. There are about 20 girls there sitting at the bar and I think I am the only guy. I get a big cheer and pretend to fend them off. There is laughter all round. I make my way to the end of the bar and two girls make their play. One I like, the other would kill me if you know what I mean. I warn them about the LE outside.

They ask for a drink but I refuse. However I take a fancy to the slimmer of the two and find her "interesting". I open negotiations but sense she is a bit wary. She then tells me she is not sure if I am LE or not and that they always ask for a drink first as they believe that if they get a drink, it cannot be LE. I put her right on that score.

We agree $800 for 3 hours and leave, bumping into my nympho stalker in the street. We glare at each other and I get into a taxi.

Did I make a good choice? My luck has turned. A very pleasurable couple of hours are spent with Eunice, a WG from Manila. Nothing was a problem for her and as always with Filipinas, there was plenty GFE. I needed it and could well repeat tomorrow. My nympho has at last stopped sending texts.

[QUOTE=Switched;1259327]You heard it here first Mr. Goober. You are too fat and ugly. Maybe a diet will boost your chances?[/QUOTE]Yes, Switched, just as I feared.

Oh well, I won't commit suicide until after the rugby.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1259582]My nympho has at last stopped sending texts.[/QUOTE]Er, um, at least until the next time she sees you!

Having had one of 'them myself, I feel for you, man.

Now to some people it would sound like a terrible problem to have, but it certainly is not a good problem to have. (Think calls at all hours and all that fun stuff; I was on holiday in Pattaya when the woman phoned me up at 4 a. M. Stupidly I had not turned off the ringer, so up wakes my rental bride for the night, and thus giving the little gogo girl an excuse to fob off early."You phone wakes me up! Whaaaaaaa!". Ok, out of there with the ST, not LT, fee).

Fast-forward nearly a year later, when I

Run into my stalkstress at Neptune II on Friday night. Gave my that crazy-ass hard stare, again making me wonder how I could have taken her up on her services in the first place.

"Wheeeere you beeeeen?"

"Out of the country."

"Why you not caaalll?"

"Because I was out of the country. Nice to see you again (not)."

I then sidled up to some other Filipinas. She's figured it out. (Well, probably not).

Wildhawk.

The old problem of not setting the price before you leave the bar. But to be fair some of the ladies in makati worry about price in the morning.

You said that you had noticed this girl for 2 weeks. Probably not a D / H. Even a live-out D / H is too tired to go out every night.

500. Always a chance if you go to a short time hotel in wanchai.

Quick report from Singapore.

- Drinks yesterday afternoon at Clarke Quay.

- Dinner at Reen Thai at Clarke Quay. Good seafood.

- Today lunch at Raffles. Asian Food.

- Water taxi to Statue near Fullerton Hotel.

- Lots of walking.

- My GF and I have sore feet.

- Will check out Brix and Orchard Towers in the next two days. And give guys info about talent / rates etc.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1259851]Wildhawk.

The old problem of not setting the price before you leave the bar. But to be fair some of the ladies in makati worry about price in the morning.

You said that you had noticed this girl for 2 weeks. Probably not a D / H. Even a live-out D / H is too tired to go out every night.

500. Always a chance if you go to a short time hotel in wanchai.[/QUOTE]Agreed on all counts, tho kind of hard to negotiate prices on the dance floor at NM, where this particular girl holds court (you will rarely see her on the sidelines, at least when I have been there). Even at $1K she seemed to be acting as if I had gotten away with a bargain (LOL). But, whatever, she was a wildcat, memorable and I liked it. In this case it simply would not have happened for $500. The girl has been around and is probably stringing along any number of Westerners, as any of them would if they could. At any rate, she has Western tastes and hobbies (ice skating) that do not come cheaply in HK.

And whether she is a D / H, well, we've all had this particular discussion before. She's got a visa sponsor of some sort, claims to be working part-time for a Chinese family until the mid-afternoon, then sleeps, then hits the clubs and hooks. So, a domesticated hooker. Whatever. I did see her HK identity card, probably not at all difficult to come by (hell, the goofballs even let me get one).

Have fun in Singapore, but give us the dirty details, none of that food review stuff. Save that shit for Facebook.

A short update as nothing new to report.

Hit the steets at 11. 00pm. Strangely quiet. Called into NM. Busy, but plenty room. Getting to see and recognise the regulars so you have to assume they are mostly WG's.

The two that I struck up a conversation with were looking for $2000, and only one would budge down to $1500. Both Filipina. No deal. Quick visit to Neptune III but again, fairly quiet. Betty is looking rather good and wants me but the feeling is not reciprocated.

No texts yet from nympho and I assume she carried out her threat to delete my number. Good.

Was losing interest but entered Forrest. About 6/7 girls dancing and that was all.

Into Traffic next and it's not doing much business either. Eunice from last night was there and looking particularly good. A quick drink and we are off.

Usual multi positions, GFE and at 3. 00am I let her go. As I won't see her again and as I liked her she got $1000. Don't flame me. I know I paid over the odds.
I'm lying in bed contemplating life in general when I realise that I have made a balls up with my return flght. It leaves on Thursday at 0035hours and not for the first time I forget that that is really a day earlier than I thought, if you see what I mean. I assumed I had Wednesday night in HK before I leave. I have just spent my last night in HK!
Now, what was the number of the hotel massage room service?

Wildhawk.

No juicy details as it as a holiday.

My sexy friend and I planned the trip around our monthly period.

But will visit Brix and OT for research purposes.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1260080]My sexy friend and I planned the trip around our monthly period.[/QUOTE]IMHO, too much information. LOL

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1260080]Wildhawk.

My sexy friend and I planned the trip around our monthly period.[/QUOTE]Good coordination.

I go out with a bang!

I phone my Chinese hotel-massage girl from my last visit and she comes over from Kowloon where she lives. She greets me as if I was just about to give her the winnings from a lottery. A couple of exhausting hours later and after several sessions, we both finally concede that the human body can only endure so much.

My one regret is I did not phone her earlier in the week.

So that's it. I write this in the airport lounge, looking forward to going home but going over some happy memories. I have changed my mind about Indonesians. They are as GFE as Filipinas. NM is the place, particularly on a Sunday. Prices have remained more or less the same but negotiation is needed. Quality overall is down I'm afraid although there are some stars out there, but at a premium. Chantik is real.

Everyone take care! Treat the girls with respect. They are someone's daughter.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1260216]I go out with a bang![/QUOTE]Pearl TV and ATV are now covering the convergence of Indonesians on the tarmac at HKIA, trying to prevent JackTheLad2's flight from departing!

We will miss your keen, and on-target, observations. Have a safe journey, and return soon!

Well said Wildhawk. Always enjoy reading on JTL2's conquests and experiences. His reports should be a must read for any visitors coming to Wanchai for fun.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1260262]Pearl TV and ATV are now covering the convergence of Indonesians on the tarmac at HKIA, trying to prevent JackTheLad2's flight from departing!

We will miss your keen, and on-target, observations. Have a safe journey, and return soon![/QUOTE]

Jack, appreciation can be felt from this poster too.

The value in your posts is that you report the good with the bad and produce balanced, unbiased reports.

There are some posters here that always seem to hit the hottest girl in the country, with the second and third hottest fighting for his loins and they can be a little repetitive, but your posts are always informative and honest.

Thanks again, and I hope I can return the favour someday.

[QUOTE=Ramn HK;1260395]Always enjoy reading on JTL2's conquests and experiences. His reports should be a must read for any visitors coming to Wanchai for fun.[/QUOTE]You and Wildhawk are too kind!

I'm home now. Missing HK already.

Must plan my next trip. Tell my fanclub it will be November!

All you guys out there. Take care and play safe.

Reverse report from Singapore.

Took a quick sightseeing trip to Orchard Towers last night.

Few points.

- so many girls

- Lots of Vietnamese.

- girls are aggressive.

- drinks in Ipanema are expensive, SING $20 for a whisky and coke.

- Not many guys drinking. Not surprised.

- OT is a true meat market, may not suit many girls.

- Popped into Lucky Plaza tonight for dinner. Full of girls on the street and lots of Indian / Pakistani / Bangladeshi / Sri Lankan guys.

- Good clubbing in Clarke Quay. Mainly regular girls.

- My gf and I had to show our passports to enter Ipanema, First time for everything.

From a woman's point of view think that HK is a more relaxed environment for punters who enjoy visiting bars.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1260216]I go out with a bang!

Everyone take care! Treat the girls with respect. They are someone's daughter.[/QUOTE]LOL. Since you are trying to be a killjoy with your parting shot, you might as well add after "daughter",", sister or mother (unfortunately)." Fell like being preached to by a Borgias. LOL Look forward to your future posts. Maybe from your home port?

[QUOTE=Boarer;1260878]LOL. Since you are trying to be a killjoy with your parting shot, you might as well add after "daughter",", sister or mother (unfortunately)." Fell like being preached to by a Borgias. LOL Look forward to your future posts. Maybe from your home port?[/QUOTE]Sorry about that! Did not mean to preach or twinge your conscience.

I never play at home. Very little availabilty and mainly the "escort" type.

Will be in Sydney next week. Might try that but, for me, you just can't beat HK

Stooooopid Sevens bastards, making for an absolutely miserable scene in Wan Chai Friday night.

All the clubs are packed, most to the point of being fire traps, even more dangerous considering many of the Sevens crowd are total drunkards spoiling for a fight. NM was a total sausage fest, and quite possibly the collective IQ was hovering around that of a bratwurst. Either the regulars had been taken by 11 or were avoiding the place.

Lines outside Nep II so did not even attempt to get in, and the elevator to get up to Forest and Traffik had a long queue, so did not try. Even the ladyboys by the Irish pub were getting some interest (not that there's anything wrong with that, cough). Went home alone and without a drink. Hell, even the Filipina who has been texting me about loving me and wanting to marry me is probably on her back, mounted by a flabby, sweaty, bad-teethed rugby fan atop.

If there's not enough negativity in my report to steer you clear of this place until the event is over, well, you are a glutton for punishment or simply interested in getting a good bruisin'.

Chantik and JTL2 could not have picked a better time to get out of town.

On the bright side, I have saved money for my trip to Dongguan next weekend for a Big Swinging Dave KTV party.

just back from singapore.

agree with nighthawk's report.

taxi went by wanchai on the way to cb.

never seen some many funny dressed men in my life.

and it is busy in cb.

jack wrote a post about le. and girls asking for drinks to prove that you aren't le.

not true.

it is probably more that a girl wants one drink to chat before going out.

the dangerous time for girls is when approached on the street. and there are still a few gwailo police officers.

police and the bars

. sometimes undercover police will go into bars and watch. mainly looking for drug dealing and ****. then report back to the bar owners about things that shouldn't happen. bars must help the police or they end up like fenwick.

. uniformed police. usually speak to security, who then get the manager who asks what the police need and then invites the uniformed police into the bar.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1260976]Stooooopid Sevens bastards, making for an absolutely miserable scene in Wan Chai Friday night.

All the clubs are packed, most to the point of being fire traps,

Lines outside Nep II so did not even attempt to get in, and the elevator to get up to Forest and Traffik had a long queue, so did not try. Went home alone and without a drink. .[/QUOTE]Time for room service perhaps?

Plenty providers at very little extra cost.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1261069]Time for room service perhaps?

Plenty providers at very little extra cost.[/QUOTE]I had fired off the report too soon.

As fate would have it, I had posted just a few minutes before getting a text from Filipina M, about 32 (claimed to be 28, along with other minor, niggling falsehoods. Despite my exhortations that she might as well just tell the truth about such things as number of kids, the visa situation vis a vis whether she is actually indentured to a mommy / manager who has arranged her work in Dubai, etc, as to me it is minor conversation because I REALLY DON'T CARE insofar that I don't care beyond being a casual friend. Perhaps she is taking my interest as a desire for a deep, serious relationship, as if I am a total schlub).

Anyhow, I had befriended her about two weeks ago when she and her friend entered Nep II and she starts off with "I love you" and to prove it plunged her tongue down my throat. Silly, but as I had had a few, and effective. That night (an "up to you" pricing situation that turned out at $800 for LT. 2 shots CIM, etc) was pleasant enough that I wasn't so put off by her frequent texts of "I want you be my husband" etc, junk we've all heard before, LOL.

Soooooo, after her txt Friday she immediately called. I told her that I really was not in the mood to pay for sex, but she wanted to come over to sleep at my place rather than the boarding house above Coyote in WC. No problem, so I met her in front of Amazonia (where, to follow up on the report a number of African WGs had massed. Big-figured girls, to put it mildly, and a few on the aggressive side. Difficult to hail a cab despite a large number of them standing without customers- I have never figured this shit out but suspect it's just their funny little way of getting back at gweilo).

Back at the flat is the usual shower routine. M is up for sex but starts complaining about dryness (despite my yeoman's work at DATY and her seemingly trying to choke off my oxygen supply before intercourse!) so the evening shot wasn't superb. After a fitful night of rest (for me, she slept soundly) I was serviced with a nice BJ to CIM, a preference. Around 1 we hit City Hall for dim sum. There I assess the wistful, almost sad, look on her face and place it. Looks much like my Filipina former stalker. Unsettling.

We walk a bit and cab it to WC, where she is deposited (I hand her $200 for incidentals, whatever; do remember that I had made a point of telling her I did not not want to pay for sex that I have have not in any form expressed a desire for any kind of a "real" relationship here. On top of that, I have related to her some of my P4P escapades, in the Phils and elsewhere. Sadly, to these girls this does not exclude you from being marriageable material!) Return to the and immediately get a txt from her apologizing (for what reason, who knows) and offering that she is "willing to change." Right. My goodness.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1260982]
...Police and the bars

Sometimes undercover police will go into bars and watch...[/QUOTE]There are currently at least 5 Brits working as undercover police roaming the bars. They are not only looking for drugs, but also closing deals with girls and arresting them when in the taxi (I even heard that the taxi driver in this case will be an officer). They do record the negotiation as evidence.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1261474]There are currently at least 5 Brits working as undercover police roaming the bars. They are not only looking for drugs, but also closing deals with girls and arresting them when in the taxi (I even heard that the taxi driver in this case will be an officer). They do record the negotiation as evidence.[/QUOTE]Interesting thoughts seeing that Hong Kong and Singapore are the two countries. Where a policeman can actually begin sexual relations in a room before arresting the W / L.

Think that if the undercover police are efficient. The bars will soon be clear of girls. Or British guys won't be able to pick up a W / L.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1261474]They are not only looking for drugs, but also closing deals with girls and arresting them when in the taxi (I even heard that the taxi driver in this case will be an officer). They do record the negotiation as evidence.[/QUOTE]A couple of years ago a girl that I saw quite a lot of was chatted up in the old Galaxy, bought a few drinks, agreed a price and they left. She was arrested at the top of the stairs by undercover LE. Her taxi was a police car. She got 1 month in jail and deported. Another girl I knew also got caught and got the same sentence. She still comes back but with a cousin's passprt. I have warned her she would be in serious trouble if caught.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1261754]A couple of years ago a girl that I saw quite a lot of was chatted up in the old Galaxy, bought a few drinks, agreed a price and they left. She was arrested at the top of the stairs by undercover LE. Her taxi was a police car. She got 1 month in jail and deported. Another girl I knew also got caught and got the same sentence. She still comes back but with a cousin's passprt. I have warned her she would be in serious trouble if caught.[/QUOTE]Undercovers have a blitz twice a year in Lockhart Road. Approach girls on the street and ask for a massage. Can get 40 to 60 girls in one night.

Nighthawk was right in his description of the Rugby Seven's crowd.

Spoke to a couple of lady friends. Asked about their weekend. Said no good. Too many drunk and smelly Englishmen attending the Rugby Seven's.

Made me laugh.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1261754]... She got 1 month in jail and deported. Another girl I knew also got caught and got the same sentence...[/QUOTE]That is usually what happens on the first occasion. If caught a second time, the jail term is more like a year. Furthermore I believe the undercovers don't want to clear the scene (not to lose their jobs) , but they need to justify their existence with results.

Think the ladies need to avoid English guys. Could be bad luck for English punters!

[QUOTE=Chantik;1262085]Think the ladies need to avoid English guys. Could be bad luck for English punters![/QUOTE]What about Scottish?

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1262169]What about Scottish?[/QUOTE]The girls more often than not confuse English with British. So you might get away.

I wonder if the British undercovers would sell their souls far enough to identify themselves as American just to be successful.
I believe the girls would mostly not be able to recognize their (probably faked) accent.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1262085]Think the ladies need to avoid English guys. Could be bad luck for English punters![/QUOTE]The police 'pick ups' have been going on for years. You can see posts back in 2008 discussing this very issue. In reality there is no real attempt to stop the flesh trade in Wan Chai. The plain clothes police are like a a ring fence around the WC bar scene just keeping it under control. If there was a determined effort to wipe out the bar scene it could be done easily through stricter immigration checks, tougher relicensing for bars, frequent raids etc.

A similar thing happens in Singapore. Police tackle the fringes of the industry to keep it with limits acceptable to them (e. G. Orchard Towers) but don't actually try and close it down.

Basically Wan Chai and Orchard towers are part of the economy for thses small city states. The bar girl industry goes hand in hand with the casinos and conferences and tourism. Police actionwill remain an annoyance rather than a major threat as long as these economic factors remain in play. In some countries this get mucked up by other factors (e. G. NGO's in Cambodia) but I don't think this will impact the first world cities.

Just my thoughts.

CT

[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1262248]The girls more often than not confuse English with British. So you might get away.

I wonder if the British undercovers would sell their souls far enough to identify themselves as American just to be successful.

I believe the girls would mostly not be able to recognize their (probably faked) accent.[/QUOTE]The "undercover " cops are basically English. They are guys who were in the police force pre 1997 and opted to stay on in HK. Its worked for the HK police force to retain a few white faces on the force but these days there arent that many, and most of of a reasonably senior level. I know two of them, who ocassionaly are asked to take part in these "pick ups. The interesting thing is the last time I saw them, they were very happily talking to the ladies in Fenwicks (then) and Laguna (then) in a personal basis with a view to a purchase. Both are English, both middle aged lets say.

NightHawk,

While it was crowded, I certainly had no issues finding talent in WanChai. Most of the blokes could not find there own dick as they were so drunk. Nep II was charging 160 cover with 2 drinks, but had a line down the block. Who knows why guys were waiting. Traffic and Forest we're both sparse (I hate that damn lift anyway). New Makati had loads of talent on Sunday night. I had great fortune at Escape plus meeting girls on the street in between bars. I had more approach me, than me them.

A Phili on Friday, Viet on Saturday, and a Phili pair on Sunday for a nice three way with some light G on G action included. All were 7-8+, making it a draining weekend. I had more problems getting a taxi driver to use the meter. But there were a few girls who asked if I was cop. Seems the rumor mill was flying about cops and taxi arrests.

SH

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1262326]The "undercover " cops are basically English. They are guys who were in the police force pre 1997 and opted to stay on in HK. Its worked for the HK police force to retain a few white faces on the force but these days there arent that many, and most of of a reasonably senior level. I know two of them, who ocassionaly are asked to take part in these "pick ups. The interesting thing is the last time I saw them, they were very happily talking to the ladies in Fenwicks (then) and Laguna (then) in a personal basis with a view to a purchase. Both are English, both middle aged lets say.[/QUOTE]You are right.

Think there are about 30 or 40 Gwailo's left in the HK Police Service.

Most in senior positions and probably in 10 years it will be a 100% HK Police Service.

I remember at Splash (back in the days when it was Bull and Bear). Go in on a Friday night and there would be 3 tables . One with Police, one with lawyers and one with hookers. They all mingled together and I am certain that deals were done.

And you are right about off-duty Police visiting naughty bars in Wanchai as customers!

And there have been a few cases where their drinks have been SPIKED.

Think a few Indo girls would be happy being caught. They get a month or two in jail. Argue that they should be refugees. So not back to Indonesia. Then are released on two year probation. And then hope they are granted refugee status. This is one of the reason that you have so many Indo girls out night after night.

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory; 1262312]The police 'pick ups' have been going on for years. You can see posts back in 2008 discussing this very issue. In reality there is no real attempt to stop the flesh trade in Wan Chai. The plain clothes police are like a a ring fence around the WC bar scene just keeping it under control. If there was a determined effort to wipe out the bar scene it could be done easily through stricter immigration checks, tougher relicensing for bars, frequent raids etc.

A similar thing happens in Singapore. Police tackle the fringes of the industry to keep it with limits acceptable to them (e. G. Orchard Towers) but don't actually try and close it down.

Basically Wan Chai and Orchard towers are part of the economy for thses small city states. The bar girl industry goes hand in hand with the casinos and conferences and tourism. Police actionwill remain an annoyance rather than a major threat as long as these economic factors remain in play. In some countries this get mucked up by other factors (e. G. NGO's in Cambodia) but I don't think this will impact the first world cities.

Just my thoughts.

CT[/QUOTE]Agree with CT.

A serious effort could reduce the number of W / L's, but this would have an economic impact.

Do know that it is more difficult for Filipina's to get regular tourist visa's into HK. Far less in HK than 2 or 3 years ago.

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory; 1262312]A similar thing happens in Singapore. Police tackle the fringes of the industry to keep it with limits acceptable to them (e. G. Orchard Towers) but don't actually try and close it down.

Just my thoughts.

CT[/QUOTE]I fully agree. At OT in Singapore it is not unusual to see a police car in front of the main entrance or a couple of officers inside. Especially in some peak periods.

Even a blind can figure out what is going on, so that police is there for soemthing else: make sure there is no trouble, no foreigner is disturbed and if there is any over drunk guy (as it often happens) , he will be taken care of.

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1262351]NightHawk,

While it was crowded, I certainly had no issues finding talent in WanChai.

SH[/QUOTE]Happy to hear of your good escapades despite the obnoxious crowd.

I will be avoiding until the area has been cleared of the rubbish. I am curious about your pricing, particularly the 2 sorta-lesbi Philis, if you wouldn't mind, as I generally try to lay out the financial outlay in my reports.

And, damnit, the tag is Wildhawk (I prolly would have signed up as Nighthawk but figured that sign-on would have been taken and I'd need to be Nighhawk2033 or somesuch). Thot I'd even tell ChantiK " Yoooooo don' remembermeeee babeeeeeeeeee?"

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1262536]Happy to hear of your good escapades despite the obnoxious crowd.

I will be avoiding until the area has been cleared of the rubbish. I am curious about your pricing, particularly the 2 sorta-lesbi Philis, if you wouldn't mind, as I generally try to lay out the financial outlay in my reports.

And, damnit, the tag is Wildhawk (I prolly would have signed up as Nighthawk but figured that sign-on would have been taken and I'd need to be Nighhawk2033 or somesuch). Thot I'd even tell ChantiK " Yoooooo don' remembermeeee babeeeeeeeeee?"[/QUOTE]Wildhawk,

My profound apologies. Pricing was between 1-1. 5 for the one on ones. 2+ hours. 2 pops. For the 2 on 1, it was 2. 5 for 3 hours of fun.

SH

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1262483]You are right.

I remember at Splash (back in the days when it was Bull and Bear).

Think a few Indo girls would be happy being caught. They get a month or two in jail. Argue that they should be refugees. So not back to Indonesia. Then are released on two year probation. And then hope they are granted refugee status. This is one of the reason that you have so many Indo girls out night after night.[/QUOTE]Bull and Bear. Now you bring back a few memories!

Wel at least in HK if you were caught for overstaying / hooking the jail experience wasnt so bad I hear. In Singapore for those caught the first thing they do is shave the head, and I understand its a 3 month stay.

Hey guys I rarely go to WC anyway but during the 7s I avoided it like the plague. Had a business / friendly dinner scheduled for WC and when I realized what day it was I switched it to Central.

Heading for the MTR about 11 pm my eyes meet those of a Chinese girl I instantly pegged as a visiting mainlander. Not a 10 by any means but looked good enough, and gave me the "long stare." At first I kept going because I don't normally have the balls to just approach women but after a few steps I figured why not? I turned around and went to talk to her. She was indeed visiting from the mainland and heading out to see what LKF / Soho was all about so I invited her for a drink. Not an hour later we were in a ST room in the Eden on Wellington street and I was plowing her but good. During the deed she told me "when you first came back to talk to me, my pussy got so wet." LOL Nice to hear, if only it had tasted better. She had wanted to come back to my place but I gave her the "it's far away" and "I have a helper" excuses. The latter is true, but wouldn't bother me so much, I just don't like bringing girls back to my place unless I'm serious with them, who the fuck wants some WL / DH stalker to know where he lives?

She was definitely used to meeting foreign guys because her English was a lot better than most mainlanders and she shaved her pussy. During pillow talk it came out that she doesn't like Chinese, doesn't like white guys who have been in China too long because they begin to be contaminate by the Chinese attitude (She didn't detect any in me, I guess I've avoided this, I've been here long enough though) , doesn't like Africans or Muslims. So she pretty much doesn't like anyone. But was happy for a shag apparently.

She was a bit disappointed that I didn't stay the night though I did get her HK number for the next time she's here whenever that may be. I put her in a taxi back to her friend's in Kowloon where she claimed to be staying. She seemed disappointed that I didn't want more but what did she expect, she can come to HK only a few times a year and I'm not going to her shithole industrial city in China, aside from sex she had a negative opinion / bad attitude about everything (though with regard to the mainland, it is more than justified) and she spread her legs after less than an hour together. Not exactly Miss Right.

The overall point is there are more freebies here than you think, especially with visiting mainlanders, you just have to have the guts to initiate them.

Great report, Johnny Rocket! Lucky Dude!

I'm headed back to HK next month and am interested in repeating a decent outcall experience I had with 141 two years ago.

When I checked out the website again, I couldn't understand the designations for the various services. I had an outcall escort last time. She came to my room in the Kowloon Hotel. Simple, uncomplicated. But I don't see outcall escorts on 141 anymore. I don't' want an outcall massage or a hotel walk-in. Which is when you visit a designated floor in a hotel. Last time I was scouting out someone who was at the Kowloon Regal. Anyway, I don't want a veggie massage (WTF?) and I don't want a 141 walk-up.

If I want an outcall escort on 141. What am I looking for?

Thanks for your patience. I realize that this is a tedious question for regulars, but I'd be grateful for any help.

EP

Nice report Johnny, good to read up on your exploits, (yes free is possible), after all the trivial flotsam and jetsam that's been on the board lately. Undercover cops, for goodness sake, who gives a toss? Used to drink with them in the curtain bars near MTR exit C all the time, no big deal. Watch out for the crazy mamasans in Galaxy and their padded drinks bill scams, far more of a nuisance IMHO.

[QUOTE=Europunter; 1263249]Great report, Johnny Rocket! Lucky Dude!

I'm headed back to HK next month and am interested in repeating a decent outcall experience I had with 141 two years ago.

When I checked out the website again, I couldn't understand the designations for the various services. I had an outcall escort last time. She came to my room in the Kowloon Hotel. Simple, uncomplicated. But I don't see outcall escorts on 141 anymore. I don't' want an outcall massage or a hotel walk-in. Which is when you visit a designated floor in a hotel. Last time I was scouting out someone who was at the Kowloon Regal. Anyway, I don't want a veggie massage (WTF?) and I don't want a 141 walk-up.

If I want an outcall escort on 141. What am I looking for?

Thanks for your patience. I realize that this is a tedious question for regulars, but I'd be grateful for any help.

EP[/QUOTE]You can get outcall on 141.

Just call the number and ask them if they will come to your hotel.

Some will and some won't.

You will need to pay a taxi fee though.

[QUOTE=Europunter; 1263249]Great report, Johnny Rocket! Lucky Dude!

I'm headed back to HK next month and am interested in repeating a decent outcall experience I had with 141 two years ago.

When I checked out the website again, I couldn't understand the designations for the various services. I had an outcall escort last time. She came to my room in the Kowloon Hotel. Simple, uncomplicated. But I don't see outcall escorts on 141 anymore. I don't' want an outcall massage or a hotel walk-in. Which is when you visit a designated floor in a hotel. Last time I was scouting out someone who was at the Kowloon Regal. Anyway, I don't want a veggie massage (WTF?) and I don't want a 141 walk-up.

If I want an outcall escort on 141. What am I looking for?

Thanks for your patience. I realize that this is a tedious question for regulars, but I'd be grateful for any help.

EP[/QUOTE]From my recent post on another forum.

A repeat of my 2009 post for those who have asked about Chinese / english language.

For those that missed it in my earlier post the english / traditional Chinese translations are:

Make Love &20570; &24859;

Blow Job &21561; &34157;

Hand Job &20986; &28779;

2nd Shot (Price Negotiable) &23382; Q (&21478; &35696.

BM &22846; &33144; &20180;

Mouth Cum &21475; &29190;

Face Cum &38991; &23556;

Wet BJ &27700; &20013; &34157;

Anal &24460; &33457; &22290;

Ass licking &27602; &40845; &38013;

Ice fire BJ &21534; &31934; or &20912; &28779;

Buffet Sex / Multi Q &38480; &26178; &20219; &20570;

Stay Overnight &36942; &22812;

SM &24615; &34384;

Uniform &21046; &26381; &36942; &22812;

Minutes &20998; &37912;

PD stands for physically disabled.

Traditional Chinese when rendered in english like characters usually makes use of the Wade-Giles method as opposed to the use of pinyin for putonghua (mandarin Chinese). I would not recommend an online lesson in this thread, it would be better to print the above list and take a few copies with you, a greatful girl may give extra attention if you give her a copy.

Teltel

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1262486]Agree with CT.

A serious effort could reduce the number of W / L's, but this would have an economic impact.

Do know that it is more difficult for Filipina's to get regular tourist visa's into HK. Far less in HK than 2 or 3 years ago.[/QUOTE]I have a hard time sometimes because girls think I am a cop. I was shocked to hear there are white cops. When they hear I am american, they calm down. But, some have told me they were afraid to approach me for fear of being busted.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1262691]Bull and Bear. Now you bring back a few memories![/QUOTE]Back in HK next week after 5 long years away. Thought I'd scout around the forum. Was looking forward to the Bull & Bear and you're telling me it's gone! Still have their business card on my desk.

I remember some truly great nights there. Can anyone suggest some good alternatives?

Blair

[QUOTE=Blair; 1265102]Back in HK next week after 5 long years away. Thought I'd scout around the forum. Was looking forward to the Bull & Bear and you're telling me it's gone! Still have their business card on my desk.

I remember some truly great nights there. Can anyone suggest some good alternatives?

Blair[/QUOTE]Bull and Bear is rebadged Splash.

Same location.

[QUOTE=Teltel; 1264834]From my recent post on another forum.

A repeat of my 2009 post for those who have asked about Chinese / english language.

For those that missed it in my earlier post the english / traditional Chinese translations are:

Make Love &20570; &24859;

Blow Job &21561; &34157;

Hand Job &20986; &28779;

2nd Shot (Price Negotiable) &23382; Q (&21478; &35696.
etc etc

Traditional Chinese when rendered in english like characters usually makes use of the Wade-Giles method as opposed to the use of pinyin for putonghua (mandarin Chinese). I would not recommend an online lesson in this thread, it would be better to print the above list and take a few copies with you, a greatful girl may give extra attention if you give her a copy.

Teltel[/QUOTE]Thanks for the efforts but, for wahetever reason all what I see is a nice bunch of numbers and no Chinese wording.

Is it only me?

Must be hard punting in the Chinese Market. Trying to work out prices, services, etc, and then the ladies often have limited English.

The sexy group of Indonesian ladies were dancing up a storm at QV. As they used the pole like a true Thai Go Go dancer. And their costumes got briefer as the afternoon continued.

[QUOTE=Yhddude13;1265013]I have a hard time sometimes because girls think I am a cop. I was shocked to hear there are white cops. When they hear I am american, they calm down. But, some have told me they were afraid to approach me for fear of being busted.[/QUOTE]Being American means you will be OK.

It is usually the girls here on tourist visa's who are cautious about Police. Regular girls who live in HK don't worry about the Police cause they get to know all the guys.

Popped in to Escape the other night to have a drink with a friend and she said." I know every guy in this bar". Which meant it was bad for business.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1265373]Must be hard punting in the Chinese Market. ... The sexy group of Indonesian ladies were dancing up a storm at QV.[/QUOTE]
I admit the language barrier is a challenge, but worth it. I am very attracted to Chinese girls and find them irresistibly sexy. That is why I keep returning to Macau trip after trip, year after year. I am addicted. I met a very pretty Chinese FL in the east TST on my recent trip. She was hanging out with two of her friends in Mody Square. She possessed limited English skills, but we both knew what the other was after; a small negotiation later and we settled on ST for 500HK. Jessie, that’s what she called herself, was repeat quality, but I only had a couple of days left in Hong Kong when we met. I had to move on.

Things are changing in Wanchai. What gives? I noticed that my favorite Wanchai bars were only so so this February. Neptune 2 maybe 75% of what it used to be. What happened to the very sexy Thai and Viet girls that used to always hang around Neptune 2? What happened to the customers that used to fill the place to the brim? Escape was practically empty when I went there on two separate occasions. I did meet this very attractive Thai girl there and made the most of things, however. Neptune 3 had only a couple of attractive Filipinas, the rest were, how should I say this delicately, not. The bars with all the customers seemed to be Joe Bananas and Amazonia. These bars were doing good business. Amazonia had some sexy girls spilling out onto the street. New Makati was definitely rocking. I like this place. It had the best party vibe of all the bars. But, while the strobe lighting in New Makati is great for atmosphere, it is lousy for getting an accurate and reliable view of the talent. A couple of Indonesian girls were giving me the look. I was tempted, but was not sure so I did not make a move.

Hey Chantik, don’t get me wrong. I have met some very sensual and voluptuous Indo girls in my time. In fact, I met a very sexy Indonesian girl in Macau at Familia Nobre Sauna in February. I am still in contact with her. She tells me she is moving to Hong Kong. She says she is tired of working in a sauna. She is an independent kind of girl. I think she may do well in HKG. She is very pretty and a great lover.

BTW, I am going to Jakarta and Batam in October. It will be my cherry boy trip to Indonesia (two trips to Bali don’t count). I am looking forward to the booty that awaits.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1265402]...Things are changing in Wanchai. What happened to the very sexy Thai and Viet girls that used to always hang around Neptune 2...[/quote]At least for the Vietnamese it is a visa problem. They used to get a double entry 2 weeks each stay and went to China to activate the second term. Now they only get 1 week and no more China visa, means they need to make 400 USD airfare in 7 days, plus the expenses for the stay. No way.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1265402]...New Makati was definitely rocking...[/quote]You can get deaf there without earplugs.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1265402]...I am going to Jakarta and Batam in October...[/quote]Jakarta definitely a good place if you can make do with the traffic, Batam not worth it in my opinion.
If you are willing to pay around 70US$ for a Hotel, the Ambhara hotel is a good one. Walking distance to Blok M.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1265410]Jakarta definitely a good place if you can make do with the traffic, Batam not worth it in my opinion.

If you are willing to pay around 70US$ for a Hotel, the Ambhara hotel is a good one. Walking distance to Blok M.[/QUOTE]Hi Tiger 888,

Yea, I am getting psyched up for Jakarta. I have heard many great things about the city and I have been doing my research. There are a lot of places I want to check out and naturally, like a kid in a candy shop, I want to go everywhere. I am going to spend 6 nights here, but 'best laid plans of mice and men' if you know what I mean. From experience, I know I will probably hit maybe half the joints on my list. Somewhere, somehow, somebody, or something is going to slow me down. But that's fine. If I like Jakarta as much as I think I will, I know I will come back for more.

On Batam, you may be right. But, I felt that since I was in the neighborhood, I should check it out. I am thinking it is roughly comparable to AC. I know I will manage to have a good time there no matter what. I have been to a lot of shit holes much worse in my travels through Central and South America. If it is a place I will want to go back a 2nd or 3rd time, remains open to question.

NB

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1265402]I admit the language barrier is a challenge, but worth it. I am very attracted to Chinese girls and find them irresistibly sexy. That is why I keep returning to Macau trip after trip, year after year. I am addicted. I met a very pretty Chinese FL in the east TST on my recent trip. She was hanging out with two of her friends in Mody Square. She possessed limited English skills, but we both knew what the other was after; a small negotiation later and we settled on ST for 500HK. Jessie, that's what she called herself, was repeat quality, but I only had a couple of days left in Hong Kong when we met. I had to move on.

Things are changing in Wanchai. What gives? I noticed that my favorite Wanchai bars were only so so this February. Neptune 2 maybe 75% of what it used to be. What happened to the very sexy Thai and Viet girls that used to always hang around Neptune 2? What happened to the customers that used to fill the place to the brim? Escape was practically empty when I went there on two separate occasions. I did meet this very attractive Thai girl there and made the most of things, however. Neptune 3 had only a couple of attractive Filipinas, the rest were, how should I say this delicately, not. The bars with all the customers seemed to be Joe Bananas and Amazonia. These bars were doing good business. Amazonia had some sexy girls spilling out onto the street. New Makati was definitely rocking. I like this place. It had the best party vibe of all the bars. But, while the strobe lighting in New Makati is great for atmosphere, it is lousy for getting an accurate and reliable view of the talent. A couple of Indonesian girls were giving me the look. I was tempted, but was not sure so I did not make a move.

Hey Chantik, don't get me wrong. I have met some very sensual and voluptuous Indo girls in my time. In fact, I met a very sexy Indonesian girl in Macau at Familia Nobre Sauna in February. I am still in contact with her. She tells me she is moving to Hong Kong. She says she is tired of working in a sauna. She is an independent kind of girl. I think she may do well in HKG. She is very pretty and a great lover.

BTW, I am going to Jakarta and Batam in October. It will be my cherry boy trip to Indonesia (two trips to Bali don't count). I am looking forward to the booty that awaits.[/QUOTE]Natty.

Every time I respond to a post. You get stressed. Chill out!

You can choose whatever girl you want!

I was making the observation, after a poster asked about 141 girls, and then in his next post he posted some kind of English translation which made no sense at all. Seems very stressful 1

Jakarta. Great choice from saunas / massages / parlours / independents in bars etc. Probably pay around 1m rupiah (about 900 HK) for short time. This is a starting point with independents. Prices drop depending on the time of the night. Don't expect A levels.

Batam. Very cheap. Where Singapore / Malaysian residents go for weekends. Should be half the price or less than Jakarta. Except the ladies to be more primitive but very enthusiastic.

Natty.

Wanchai Bars.

Tiger is correct about the Vietnamese ladies. One week visa only. Filipina's are reduced. Get 2 weeks but don't usually cross the border and return to get another 2 weeks.

What you need to understand about Escape. Still does good business. Is that about 70% of the guys are business travellers / holiday makers. Not many HK residents go to Escape to find hookers. They have other options. And some believe there are too many ' white women ' in Escape. HK residents ofter visit Escape with visitors / friends. As it is a ' famous bar'. And some go there for a drink and to look at the girls. Business travellers are the main punters in Escape.

AFAIK Neptune 2/3 are doing OK, not great, Amazonia is doing very well and Joe Bananas in the last 12 months has welcomed back a few hookers. And Makati has many customers. Can't be sure how much money they make because the ladies get free drinks all night long.

Summing up. Wanchai has been a bit quieter in the last 3 months. But the ladies don't only get customers from Bars.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1265647]And Makati has many customers. Can't be sure how much money they make because the ladies get free drinks all night long.[/QUOTE]What. The. Fuck.

I have bought girls drinks at this place, after being told they cut a 50% cut. I am not quite sure I am following this, as most of the girls I see at New Makati do not have drinks in their hands. On the rare occasion when I am feeling so generous (I only buy for girls whom I deem are VERY friendly or are potential takeaway material) I think it would be better to just palm the girl the difference. And, hell, I thought I had scored big-time when I was able to talk the manager (short fellow, very friendly guy, by the way) into a free beer. Sheesh.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1265441]Hi Tiger 888,

Yea, I am getting psyched up for Jakarta. I have heard many great things about the city and I have been doing my research. There are a lot of places I want to check out and naturally, like a kid in a candy shop, I want to go everywhere. I am going to spend 6 nights here, but 'best laid plans of mice and men' if you know what I mean. NB[/QUOTE]In Jakarta, hook up with JAD first day so that you get a good lay of the land. PM or email him first, he's a reliable and good guy. The nice thing about Jakarta is the variety of places and price points; lots of great choices and just not enough time!

Will hang at the rear bar at New Makati on Friday night, 'about 11ish on. Any ISGers who want to pass the code (whatsit?"Sure are a lot of girls here") please. Show up and we will assess the scene.

And if Chantik the legend is willing to make a cameo appearance, then, please do, lovely girl.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1265658]What. The. Fuck.

I have bought girls drinks at this place, after being told they cut a 50% cut. I am not quite sure I am following this, as most of the girls I see at New Makati do not have drinks in their hands. On the rare occasion when I am feeling so generous (I only buy for girls whom I deem are VERY friendly or are potential takeaway material) I think it would be better to just palm the girl the difference. And, hell, I thought I had scored big-time when I was able to talk the manager (short fellow, very friendly guy, by the way) into a free beer. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]can't believe that you don't know this. You must look through your beer goggles.

Yes. The ladies get drink commissions on ladies drinks. Like most Wanchai bars.

Next time you are at Makati watch girls be given drinks by the Bar Manager. Or being asked what drinks they want. It happens more at the front bar near the entrance.

Why do you think Forest is quiet during the week. Not enough free drinks for the girls.

And for your information.

Ladies at neptune 2 and Escape who buy standard drinks eg; heineken / strobe etc pay $20.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1265642]Natty.

Every time I respond to a post. You get stressed. Chill out!

You can choose whatever girl you want!

I was making the observation, after a poster asked about 141 girls, and then in his next post he posted some kind of English translation which made no sense at all. Seems very stressful 1.

Jakarta. Great choice from saunas / massages / parlours / independents in bars etc. Probably pay around 1m rupiah (about 900 HK) for short time. This is a starting point with independents. Prices drop depending on the time of the night. Don't expect A levels.

Batam. Very cheap. Where Singapore / Malaysian residents go for weekends. Should be half the price or less than Jakarta. Except the ladies to be more primitive but very enthusiastic.[/QUOTE]Dear Chantik,

I'm chill. Since you came on the forum, I can only recall one time when I directly posted a contrary opinion to yours. And I think I was respectful to you when I did so. The one time I can recall that we disagreed publicly was when I posted an experience I had one Sunday last year with a Filipina DH. I had a nice couple of hours dancing and drinking with her. It was around 7pm when she said she had to get back to her employer's home. She gave me her phone number and asked that I call her later. I escorted her and her friend to the MTR and we said goodbye. Rather than go back to the Wanchai bars, I opted for a 141 date with a beautiful Japanese girl for 1700hk. The Japanese girl had a great body along with her amazing personality. We clicked and I really enjoyed my time with her. After I posted this report, you commented that I could have had 3 DH's for the same price of the Japanese girl. Yea, I know that. So what? How many Mickey D cheeseburgers can I buy for the price of a Ruth Chris NY Strip? I guess we had a different pov, but I must say, that at the time I felt that unless you had personally sampled both Japanese and DH pussy, you really didn't understand the 'je ne sais quoi' indefinable quality I was talking about and why I went for the Japanese girl. It depends on how I feel, but sometimes I would take an hour with a beautiful young Japanese girl over 5 DH's. It is my personal preference based on experience and that was my contribution to the forum back then. I did not mean to imply anything derogatory to you. You have your own opinion on the subject and are damn entitled to it.

The only other time I can recall that I responded directly to one of your posts was yesterday. But I don't think you can call what I posted a disagreement with you and I know what I posted was in no way disrespectful or insulting. You wrote '[It] must be hard punting in the Chinese Market. Trying to work out prices, services, etc, and then the ladies often have limited English. ' Which is absolutely true! All I added was that it was worth it IMHO. And then I followed that statement up with a recent experience I had with a pretty Chinese FL in East TST to illustrate my point. I concluded my post tangentially with a statement of my attraction for Indonesian girls and in particular for one Indonesian girl I recently met in Macau so no one on the forum could construe than I have anything against Indonesian girls. I love Indonesian girls, but I happen to be addicted to Chinese girls at the moment. I am not addicted to Indonesian girls although who knows what will happen in Jakarta. By the way, I appreciated the lines you wrote about Indonesia.

So Chantik, I think you got the wrong guy here. I almost never respond personally to your posts and I have never shown you any disrespect. I like your contributions to the forum. You are well informed and write in a very intelligent way. I hope you stay involved here for a long time to come. You know a lot more about the ins and outs of the Wanchai scene than I ever will and have a unique perspective on it all. When some other guys were hitting you with low blows saying they did not think you were a women, I defended you. So if once in awhile I offer a different opinion than yours, please don't take it personally. The forum is about the free flow of information and ideas. We can disagree from time to time and still be respectful to each other. The next time I am in Hong Kong, I will PM you. Let's have a drink together and talk about the sport. Let's be friends!

I've been out of this forum for the past few months but all I can say is that I am glad to Chantik here! Really livens up the place with a different perspective.

Chantik, if my HK trip works out later this year, I'll be sure to email you.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1265642]Jakarta. Great choice from saunas / massages / parlours / independents in bars etc. Probably pay around 1m rupiah (about 900 HK) for short time. This is a starting point with independents. Prices drop depending on the time of the night. Don't expect A levels.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you go but satu juta is NOT the street price or asking price for ST for independents. Only the higher end saunas charge that, eg Alexis, Malibioro. The other places like Kartika, Travel Hotel, Classic are much less. And service is usually excellent.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1265642]Batam. Very cheap. Where Singapore / Malaysian residents go for weekends. Should be half the price or less than Jakarta. Except the ladies to be more primitive but very enthusiastic.[/QUOTE]Prices and quality usually lower, stick to Jakarta

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1265647]Natty.

Wanchai Bars.

Tiger is correct about the Vietnamese ladies. One week visa only. Filipina's are reduced. Get 2 weeks but don't usually cross the border and return to get another 2 weeks.

What you need to understand about Escape. Still does good business. Is that about 70% of the guys are business travellers / holiday makers. Not many HK residents go to Escape to find hookers. They have other options. And some believe there are too many ' white women ' in Escape. HK residents ofter visit Escape with visitors / friends. As it is a ' famous bar'. And some go there for a drink and to look at the girls. Business travellers are the main punters in Escape.

AFAIK Neptune 2/3 are doing OK, not great, Amazonia is doing very well and Joe Bananas in the last 12 months has welcomed back a few hookers. And Makati has many customers. Can't be sure how much money they make because the ladies get free drinks all night long.

Summing up. Wanchai has been a bit quieter in the last 3 months. But the ladies don't only get customers from Bars.[/QUOTE]Yup. I'm one of those business travelers that would go to escape. I didn't like neptune 2 because of the smoking. But, I wasn't happy at escape 2 trips ago and went o Amazonia, too crowded and not enough ladies, so I went to Neptune 2. I picked up a pretty Indo, first time, who said she was a DH. I paid her normal lady of the night rates, but she was the best fuck I had in HK. All over me in he cab. Great oral and great sex. And she didn't even ask to turn off the lights. Just a wild night. Next trip went back to Neptune, but it was the rugby weekend. Bar was crazy. Bumped not her and decided to repeat, against my rule. Give me more time and I will break out of my shell and see other bars that are mentioned. Maybe even go on ansairday or Sunday afternoon.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1265709]can't believe that you don't know this.[/QUOTE]I do believe this ignorance qualifes me as NOT being a "Wan Chai regular," and thus fit for Chantik's warm embrace.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1265725]Dear Chantik,

I'm chill. Since you came on the forum, I can only recall one time when I blah.

Blah.

Blah.

Blah.[/QUOTE]Hahaha, the longest post in the last few months, is your need to explain yourself to chantik. It does seem stressed

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1265725]Dear Chantik,

I'm chill. Since you came on the forum, I can only recall one time when I directly posted a contrary opinion to yours. And I think I was respectful to you when I did so. The one time I can recall that we disagreed publicly was when I posted an experience I had one Sunday last year with a Filipina DH. I had a nice couple of hours dancing and drinking with her. It was around 7pm when she said she had to get back to her employer's home. She gave me her phone number and asked that I call her later. I escorted her and her friend to the MTR and we said goodbye. Rather than go back to the Wanchai bars, I opted for a 141 date with a beautiful Japanese girl for 1700hk. The Japanese girl had a great body along with her amazing personality. We clicked and I really enjoyed my time with her. After I posted this report, you commented that I could have had 3 DH's for the same price of the Japanese girl. Yea, I know that. So what? How many Mickey D cheeseburgers can I buy for the price of a Ruth Chris NY Strip? I guess we had a different pov, but I must say, that at the time I felt that unless you had personally sampled both Japanese and DH pussy, you really didn't understand the 'je ne sais quoi' indefinable quality I was talking about and why I went for the Japanese girl. It depends on how I feel, but sometimes I would take an hour with a beautiful young Japanese girl over 5 DH's. It is my personal preference based on experience and that was my contribution to the forum back then. I did not mean to imply anything derogatory to you. You have your own opinion on the subject and are damn entitled to it.

The only other time I can recall that I responded directly to one of your posts was yesterday. But I don't think you can call what I posted a disagreement with you and I know what I posted was in no way disrespectful or insulting. You wrote '[It] must be hard punting in the Chinese Market. Trying to work out prices, services, etc, and then the ladies often have limited English. ' Which is absolutely true! All I added was that it was worth it IMHO. And then I followed that statement up with a recent experience I had with a pretty Chinese FL in East TST to illustrate my point. I concluded my post tangentially with a statement of my attraction for Indonesian girls and in particular for one Indonesian girl I recently met in Macau so no one on the forum could construe than I have anything against Indonesian girls. I love Indonesian girls, but I happen to be addicted to Chinese girls at the moment. I am not addicted to Indonesian girls although who knows what will happen in Jakarta. By the way, I appreciated the lines you wrote about Indonesia.

So Chantik, I think you got the wrong guy here. I almost never respond personally to your posts and I have never shown you any disrespect. I like your contributions to the forum. You are well informed and write in a very intelligent way. I hope you stay involved here for a long time to come. You know a lot more about the ins and outs of the Wanchai scene than I ever will and have a unique perspective on it all. When some other guys were hitting you with low blows saying they did not think you were a women, I defended you. So if once in awhile I offer a different opinion than yours, please don't take it personally. The forum is about the free flow of information and ideas. We can disagree from time to time and still be respectful to each other. The next time I am in Hong Kong, I will PM you. Let's have a drink together and talk about the sport. Let's be friends![/QUOTE]Natty.

Think there has been a misunderstanding.

I responded to the post about the guy wanting a 141 girl. Who then sent another post with this list of numbers, which nobody understood. Gee, I only see Punters who speak English. Although some French guys make it challenging. Couldn't imagine how I could see a guy who doesn't speak English. It would give me a sore head.

Don't see how I expressed a different opinion. Hey you may have the same issue in Jakarta / Batam. Language barrier online. You may even post and ask me translate from Bahasa into English.

Anyway I will be interested to see your posts in the Indonesian section.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1265773]Not sure where you go but satu juta is NOT the street price or asking price for ST for independents. Only the higher end saunas charge that, eg Alexis, Malibioro. The other places like Kartika, Travel Hotel, Classic are much less. And service is usually excellent.

Prices and quality usually lower, stick to Jakarta[/QUOTE]Read my sentence about starting price. It starts high but can be bargained down.

Got to say that HK is the best place for W / L in bars. Drink Commissions are delicious.

[QUOTE=Yhddude13;1265828]Yup. I'm one of those business travelers that would go to escape. I didn't like neptune 2 because of the smoking. But, I wasn't happy at escape 2 trips ago and went o Amazonia, too crowded and not enough ladies, so I went to Neptune 2. I picked up a pretty Indo, first time, who said she was a DH. I paid her normal lady of the night rates, but she was the best fuck I had in HK. All over me in he cab. Great oral and great sex. And she didn't even ask to turn off the lights. Just a wild night. Next trip went back to Neptune, but it was the rugby weekend. Bar was crazy. Bumped not her and decided to repeat, against my rule. Give me more time and I will break out of my shell and see other bars that are mentioned. Maybe even go on ansairday or Sunday afternoon.[/QUOTE]Strange how this lady said she was a the / h. You have seen her twice at night. See her a third time at night and she is not a D / H.

Great to hear that you had a good time with her. Don't read that all this often in recent times.

You will be in heaven on a Sunday evening. And it is usually cheaper for fun.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1265834]I do believe this ignorance qualifes me as NOT being a "Wan Chai regular," and thus fit for Chantik's warm embrace.

Cheers, [/QUOTE]Watch the girls and drinks tonight. See how many many open their wallets when the drinks are delivered.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1265834]I do believe this ignorance qualifes me as NOT being a "Wan Chai regular," and thus fit for Chantik's warm embrace.

Cheers, [/QUOTE]Watch girls and drinks. And see if money changes hands.

Good luck!

Wildhawk.

Have to decline tonight's offer. Me being a good Christian make Good Friday a day of rest.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1265918]Strange how this lady said she was a the / h. You have seen her twice at night. See her a third time at night and she is not a D / H.

Great to hear that you had a good time with her. Don't read that all this often in recent times.

You will be in heaven on a Sunday evening. And it is usually cheaper for fun.[/QUOTE]They were both Friday nights. She said she was on a two year contract and had 2 days off a week. So, I inferred she was a DH, maybe she wasn't. In the end, it doesn't matter to me if she is or isn't, she was great and worth every HK penny. This might be cold, but I do this to get fucked and sucked and have no attachments. She was also the first WG in HK that was willing to go BB. I am not, so as she was about to sit on me, I stopped her and got a condom, which I bring from the states. I thought that played more towards her being a non-full time WG.

[QUOTE=Yhddude13;1265985]They were both Friday nights. She said she was on a two year contract and had 2 days off a week. So, I inferred she was a DH, maybe she wasn't. In the end, it doesn't matter to me if she is or isn't, she was great and worth every HK penny. This might be cold, but I do this to get fucked and sucked and have no attachments. She was also the first WG in HK that was willing to go BB. I am not, so as she was about to sit on me, I stopped her and got a condom, which I bring from the states. I thought that played more towards her being a non-full time WG.[/QUOTE]You are a wise man. Getting the condom on.

It is a worry that Indo girls are willing to go BB. Definitely happens more often with the D / H on the weekend.

Anyway the main thing is that you had fun (safe fun ).

And wait until you have a Sunday afternoon in Wanchai.

You will be like a child in a candy shop.

Now we are waiting Nighthawks report. Lets see which lady ran into his arms.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1265928]Wildhawk.

Have to decline tonight's offer. Me being a good Christian make Good Friday a day of rest.[/QUOTE]Well, Chantik and to all, have a wonderful holiday.

Since I had posted that I would be hanging at the back bar at NM, it was my duty to show up. As it was very crowded and the fellows were preoccupied with the lasses, there was no ISG outreach. Did talk to a couple fellow punters and used the code, to which they looked at me as if I were totally daft. Sure are a lot of women here. Well, no shit! (Well, a better strategy would be to set up a confab via PM.)

New Makati place thumping along quite well, and as I have said before, this place has a good vibe and many of the girls, for the most part, act as if they want to be there. My Indonesian crazy-dancing rental-bride-for-the night of a couple weeks back was not to be seen, but I think that I may have seen her stalker-ish "boyfriend" brush past. Dude may be on to my interest in his "girl" and may have spirited her out of there before I could latch on. When I had employed her services she had talked about having left her sex toys at home, so I do look forward to that.

I am at the point where I recognize most of the WGs at NM, and there is a particularly interesting one who arrives with a masculine woman who appears to be her lover. When the attractive girl is away for a few minutes the butchier one gets all sullen and is poking her head around looking for the girlfriend, a short-haired, dark-skinned girl, who somehow reminds me of a flapper with her long legs and hairstyle. Her behavior is a little erratic, as she is hot / cold, and I laughed when another punter made fun of her put-offishness. I will come around to bringing her home at some point, as well as repeating with a Miss Y (who stood by and danced with me a bit). Now Miss Y, a regular, is just the sweetest girl and remains very friendly despite my not having repeated with her and my obvious lechery. But little does she know, I will find some work for her soon.

So, yes, this is a blah blah blah report on a sex-less night (should put this disclaimer up higher). ButI will state my observation of the state of affairs at Escape, my next stop in Wan Chai. Girls there are certainly of a more international mix: Several Colombians (none lookers in my book) , Thais, Viets and Filipinas, plus a few beautiful Chinese civilians. The clientele were mostly younger men, I'd say.

The pushiness of the WGs asking for drinks was just flat-out inexcusable, first words out of their mouths. That is an immediate disqualification, and it must have occurred eight times in the course of the 15 minutes I spent there. On the way out I chatted with a relatively innocent looking Mongolian, said to be 25. Wanted $2K. No thanks, and good luck with that. And was out of there.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1266250]Well, Chantik and to all, have a wonderful holiday.

Since I had posted that I would be hanging at the back bar at NM, it was my duty to show up. As it was very crowded and the fellows were preoccupied with the lasses, there was no ISG outreach. Did talk to a couple fellow punters and used the code, to which they looked at me as if I were totally daft. Sure are a lot of women here. Well, no shit! (Well, a better strategy would be to set up a confab via PM.)

New Makati place thumping along quite well, and as I have said before, this place has a good vibe and many of the girls, for the most part, act as if they want to be there. My Indonesian crazy-dancing rental-bride-for-the night of a couple weeks back was not to be seen, but I think that I may have seen her stalker-ish "boyfriend" brush past. Dude may be on to my interest in his "girl" and may have spirited her out of there before I could latch on. When I had employed her services she had talked about having left her sex toys at home, so I do look forward to that.

I am at the point where I recognize most of the WGs at NM, and there is a particularly interesting one who arrives with a masculine woman who appears to be her lover. When the attractive girl is away for a few minutes the butchier one gets all sullen and is poking her head around looking for the girlfriend, a short-haired, dark-skinned girl, who somehow reminds me of a flapper with her long legs and hairstyle. Her behavior is a little erratic, as she is hot / cold, and I laughed when another punter made fun of her put-offishness. I will come around to bringing her home at some point, as well as repeating with a Miss Y (who stood by and danced with me a bit). Now Miss Y, a regular, is just the sweetest girl and remains very friendly despite my not having repeated with her and my obvious lechery. But little does she know, I will find some work for her soon.

So, yes, this is a blah blah blah report on a sex-less night (should put this disclaimer up higher). ButI will state my observation of the state of affairs at Escape, my next stop in Wan Chai. Girls there are certainly of a more international mix: Several Colombians (none lookers in my book) , Thais, Viets and Filipinas, plus a few beautiful Chinese civilians. The clientele were mostly younger men, I'd say.

The pushiness of the WGs asking for drinks was just flat-out inexcusable, first words out of their mouths. That is an immediate disqualification, and it must have occurred eight times in the course of the 15 minutes I spent there. On the way out I chatted with a relatively innocent looking Mongolian, said to be 25. Wanted $2K. No thanks, and good luck with that. And was out of there.[/QUOTE]You displayed wonderful self control.

Have a great Easter guys, it's a great time to be in Hong Kong.

Yhddude you don't need to bring condoms from the US. There are plenty of brands here that fit whiteys unlike in Japan. Unless there is one particular brand you really like. There is even a larger size condom here comparable to the Trojan Magnum which is advertised with a horse. LOL I can't imagine the market for them is really that big, I bet most guys buy them out of wishful thinking.

Brothers!

I am on my way to HK after a 3 years break, I used to frequent the Neptunes but understand there are a couple of new bars now too. New Manila? Makati? Escape? Angel-something?

Any difference in the places regarding what nationalities and quality you can find, and prices expected to pay?

Will only have one night, Monday night of all, and probably not much time to roam so need to shortlist the most potential option. Hopefully I will be back with more time later this year.

[QUOTE=Liondale; 1266858]Brothers!

I am on my way to HK after a 3 years break, I used to frequent the Neptunes but understand there are a couple of new bars now too. New Manila? Makati? Escape? Angel-something?

Any difference in the places regarding what nationalities and quality you can find, and prices expected to pay?

Will only have one night, Monday night of all, and probably not much time to roam so need to shortlist the most potential option. Hopefully I will be back with more time later this year.[/QUOTE]Sunday and Monday night are the quietest nights of the week. Maybe a limited supply of ladies.

You could be better adviced going through Escort Agencies / Independents etc. Especially if you have limited time for hunting.

JR.

Can assure that some of the ' Whiteys ' need magnum sized condoms.

Maybe, but I always find it easier to go to a drugstore on the way, pick up some rubbers and know its taken care of. I hate staring at the condom section in 7-11 figuring out what I need. I'm not keen on asking for help." excuse me, do you have condoms for American dicks"? I also don't want to end up in the room having forgotten. Too much temptation. It takes a lot of will power to put your hand between her pussy and your dick to stop her when the rubber is in the nightstand. I agine if you had to leave the hotel.

[QUOTE=Liondale; 1266858]Brothers!

I am on my way to HK after a 3 years break, I used to frequent the Neptunes but understand there are a couple of new bars now too. New Manila? Makati? Escape? Angel-something?

Any difference in the places regarding what nationalities and quality you can find, and prices expected to pay?

Will only have one night, Monday night of all, and probably not much time to roam so need to shortlist the most potential option. Hopefully I will be back with more time later this year.[/QUOTE]Dude. Seriously, have you read the forum?

Suggest you read up on the reports of Jackthelad2 who recently made a trip to Hong Kong. Among other things he made a comment about Traffic. Suggest you get there soon as they're closing.

[QUOTE=Liondale; 1266858]Brothers!

I am on my way to HK after a 3 years break, I used to frequent the Neptunes but understand there are a couple of new bars now too. New Manila? Makati? Escape? Angel-something?

Any difference in the places regarding what nationalities and quality you can find, and prices expected to pay?

Will only have one night, Monday night of all, and probably not much time to roam so need to shortlist the most potential option. Hopefully I will be back with more time later this year.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ramn HK;1267008]Suggest you read up on the reports of Jackthelad2 who recently made a trip to Hong Kong. Among other things he made a comment about Traffic. Suggest you get there soon as they're closing.[/QUOTE]Traffic closing.

What's the story?

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1267079]Traffic closing.

What's the story?[/QUOTE]It does not really surprise me. It's just not busy enough. And you have said this yourself in the recent past! During the week it is fairly empty and they can't exist on Fiday / Saturday night takings alone. Forrest would be my next guess for early closure, both going the same way as Galaxy recently.

Just back from as business trip to Sydney. Must confess. I miss HK! Can't wait for my next visit later in the year.

NM is the place!

Keep safe everyone and keep reporting.

Remember. A man needs a woman but a woman does not need a man. Just his money.

[QUOTE=Ramn HK;1267008]Suggest you read up on the reports of Jackthelad2 who recently made a trip to Hong Kong. Among other things he made a comment about Traffic. Suggest you get there soon as they're closing.[/QUOTE]Hi Ramn. You're kind comments made me look back at the reports from my recent visit.

How can you be homesick for a place that is not your home!

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1267096]It does not really surprise me. It's just not busy enough. And you have said this yourself in the recent past! During the week it is fairly empty and they can't exist on Fiday / Saturday night takings alone. Forrest would be my next guess for early closure, both going the same way as Galaxy recently.

Just back from as business trip to Sydney. Must confess. I miss HK! Can't wait for my next visit later in the year.

NM is the place!

Keep safe everyone and keep reporting.

Remember. A man needs a woman but a woman does not need a man. Just his money.[/QUOTE]

Forest may survive.

Steady business on a Saturday and very good business on a Sunday.

Forest is busier than Makati on a Sunday.

Ps; Any luck in OZ!

PS; Neptune 3 isn't going that well either - Bit busier than forest during the week - But quieter on the weekend.