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Try reading prior posts before posting, as I've stated before it's closed sundays / mondays / tuesdays

Went there on friday night and had a good time as always. Also why even bother posting about happenings in Cuenca, as you previously posted you won't shit where you eat.

[QUOTE=Abril]Wondering if this place is still open. Last night, drove by, and it was closed. When I passed by the areas around the bus station and airport, where a number of "world wonders" often reside, it was surprisingly hopping with a number of actually decent looking chicks. So, they all seemed to go down to that area to see what they could capture, I would imagine.

Will see what else I can figure out.[/QUOTE]

Keep up the great work, Saeta.

My friend in guayaquil says she doesn't get sick when she goes to cuenca only quito. Maybe she is used to it. I believe cuenca is at 8200FT and quito at 9300Ft *roughly.

Has anyone felt sick in cuenca ? Do those few hundred feet really make a difference ?

I assume I would need another set of clothes for cuenca than for guayquil right ? Es mas frio por ahi.

Hey man, there are a lot of expats who retired to live permanently in Cuenca, so I'd say that the altitude is not that big of an issue.

I mean sure I came back to Cuenca after 12 yrs of living in pittsburgh, yeah I felt it when I walked up the stairs or walked for a while, that was it. Give it a try, see if it works for you, I really don't know what health conditions you may have so I can't assure you that you'll be fine in Cuenca.

[QUOTE=Saeta119]Hey man, there are a lot of expats who retired to live permanently in Cuenca, so I'd say that the altitude is not that big of an issue.

I mean sure I came back to Cuenca after 12 yrs of living in pittsburgh, yeah I felt it when I walked up the stairs or walked for a while, that was it. Give it a try, see if it works for you, I really don't know what health conditions you may have so I can't assure you that you'll be fine in Cuenca.[/QUOTE]


Thanks! It's not me its my doctor. I just went to ask him for "diamox" then he he told me he wasn't crazy about the idea in general.

Cuenca sounds good though.

Can anyone recommend any short term apartment rentals or agencies in Cuenca? Thanks!

I spent the last 35 days in Manta and Montanita as well as a couple of days in Guayaquil. This is part one of Manta. There will be nothing extremely juicy here as my girlfriend of 13 years has found out about my hobby and knows of this site. I did not post while I was there because I know she would have been checking daily to see if I was up to something. I'm only posting now because she probably won't look for it now that I'm back and most of the stuff here I have told her about (since I've been caught, I've been pretty open with her about what I find...I'm just not allowed to partake).

A lot of this has been sent to private e-mails.

Manta is a large city in Ecuador and has between 200,000 and 500,000 people...depending on the source that you go to. I stayed in an apartment in the central area, this is a pretty safe area and you can walk around at night without too much trouble. Avenida Flavio Del Reyes is nearby and that is where are the bars, discotecas and popular restaurants are. Manta is a large city and I went around to various locations but the safest are in the central area. Safety is a concern in Manta because there have been more than 175 murders this year, there are strip clubs and probably other places in the other parts of town where you can find prostitutes for cheap, but do you really want to put your life in your hands and risk robbery in search of cheap pussy, that you may never find?

Before I start, if you are a butt guy Ecuador is your place. I have never seen so many outstanding asses before in my life. The downside is that many of those outstanding asses had a fat gut attached to them, but there were many, many, many, extremely thin women with gigantic asses. It was almost heaven and probably will be the only reason that I return. Men here like the bigger women, which is an advantage for most of us, because the thinner women get ignored and are easy to get.


Bars - Nashville South and El Caribe, these are two bars next to each other that are owned by the same lady. She's a very sweet old lady, but she knows why people show up in her bars and she delivers. These are located on the Malecon between Calle 13 and Calle 15. Originally, I did not like these locations and most of you will not either. I like to sit, buy the girl a few drinks, talk for awhile and then when I'm ready to leave take the girl home and screw her. A majority of the girls there have no interest in anything but getting in finding a guy screwing him, taking the money and leaving.

There are between 15 to 20 regular girls that work there. Now matter what others say, these girls are not part-timers. A majority of them have that "I'm a prostitute and will rob you blind" look in their eyes. I avoided those and spoke with the other ones. Every female in the bar is for sale including the waitresses and the bartenders, with the exception of two. They are the nieces of the owner. You can tell who they are because one collects all of the money when the owner is gone and selects the music on the computer the other has very light skin and works as the bartender. Both are hotter than almost all of the prostitutes in there. You can probably figure them out by the fact that they will not let you get close to them, will not hug you and will throw you out on your ass if you try and offer them money.

Please note that I said, "offer them money". This is the strangest place that I've been to, because even though everyone knows they are for sale, most of these girls will not mention sex for money unless you specifically ask them about it. If they approach you and start talking to you or ask you to take them home, they are desperate. Lower the amount you are willing to pay for these girls appropriately. The cutest girl that I met there, I actually believed that she wasn't a prostitute, we spent hours together, we even went on a date. The last day I was there, I found out that she was also a prostitute and was simply waiting for me to make my offer. I was stunned because I was waiting for her to offer to go home with me, after meeting with her several times, I figured she was normal and was off limits (she also worked at the bar). She was the only one I wanted from there (with the exception of the off-limits bartender), and instead of wasting my time or money, I should have come out and said something.

The cost for these girls at the bar range from $10-$40. The prices have nothing to do with their beauty or what they are worth, it is simply what they believe you will pay. Every girl that asked a price for responded with, what do you want to pay. My response was always "gratis"...and we we worked from there. Another one that I thought was really hot...but she was pregnant... offered me $15 sin condom. Perfect price for me, she was beautiful, but the whole screwing a pregnant prostitute thing gave me the creeps. She was also concerned the price was too much. Another girl that wasn't a regular but showed up who was gorgeous and dressed perfectly...not slutty, but like a beautiful girl that happened to be in the wrong place. Started at $40 but instantly dropped to $25 when I showed that I wasn't interested in paying $40.

For the nice girls in the bar, the ones without "the look". $20-$30 is more than generous. For the others, pay as little as you can because they are going to try and squeeze every nickel out of you before you go. They will ask for a propina, cab fare, money for condoms, free drinks (if they want a botella de ron, run and run fast) and will try to steal your wallet. Many times when I spoke to these girls, I kept my hand in my pocket on my wallet. Also, VERY IMPORTANT, have change....lots of change. This is very difficult to obtain in Manta, I even went to the banks and asked for ones and they didn't have any to give. Pay for everything with the largest bill you have, one dollar bills and coins are like gold here and DO NOT give them up unless you have to. You will need them for the cab ($1 in the central area and no more than $3 to the outskirts of the city). No cab driver has change...ever. Most bars don't have change...ever.

Topi Tu Pizza - This is about 100 yards from Nashville South and El Caribe. There are working girls here but they are more expensive and in my opinion more attractive than the girls in the other two bars. The pizza here is fantastic but expensive (by Ecuadorian standards). The working girls dress nicely and sit at the bar drinking...unescorted. The place will allow them to stay, but does not encourage or want prostitutes, this is where you want to simply sit down order a drink and casually chat up the women. Women in Manta are VERY leery of strangers, so if they respond, they most likely are working. Again, be subtle here or risk getting thrown out.

As far as the local scene as meeting women. It is near impossible. Women simply don't talk to men on the street. In the bars and discotecas, women don't go unescorted and if they go unescorted (such as in groups) they are instantly hounded by the hundreds of men that have no women with them. Women do not buy drinks for themselves here. They simply sit and wait until guys buy them drinks. They do not dance or spend any time alone with strangers (the exception is Conga on Thursday nights). In a nutshell, it is nearly impossible to meet a "normal" girl for sex without developing some sort of relationship. I should mention that if you are under 35 and have blonde hair and blue eyes, the women will fight each other to get you. The "European" look is treasured here and the women love the men that look different from them. Also, many discotecas do not allow single men to enter. Most men here drink in groups and many of the places are really small. They don't want to waste a table that could have 5-6 guys drinking on one guy by himself. So to solve this issue, they don't allow guys to enter alone.

Conga Discoteca - One of the 5 or 6 real "discotecas" in the city, the others are just glorified bars. Thursday night is ladies night. All ladies get in for free and it's open bar. Men are $13. Many, many prostitutes on this night only, but you must know how to dance. Dancing is very important to the women here and if you want to spend more than 5 minutes with one, knowing how to dance goes a long way. Women generally outnumber the men here on Thursday nights about 2 to 1 until 2AM, then all the girls have to go home so their parents don't know what they are doing. This means you need to leave with the girls before 1AM. This is typical of almost anyplace you find working girls, they generally live at home and their parents don't know what they are doing, they will be in trouble if they arrive home after 3AM. So most have to earn their money by 1AM or they call it a night.

You can take these girls back to your hotel or apartment but the safer bet for all involved is to go to a motel. A normal motel costs $8 for an hour and $3 each additional hour. The clerk provides condoms at the register. Again, bring change because they won't have any. The girls that want to milk you dry will want you to take them to the "nice" motel which is $15, but you want the $8.00 motel. Ask the cab driver out front, the ones outside of these bars know what you're doing because they pick the girls up from the bar and take them to people looking for prostitutes all over town. A trip to the motels is on the bad side of town and once you get to the neighborhood, you will understand why I mention that you shouldn't go there to look for cheaper pussy. Cab fare is $1.50.

Next up...

My first visit to a Chongo.

[QUOTE=Michael1967]I spent the last 35 days in Manta and Montanita as well as a couple of days in Guayaquil. This is part one of Manta.
Next up...

My first visit to a Chongo.[/QUOTE]

Great report, keep up the good work and many thanks for sharing.

Any transportation info from/to Quito?

Thanks

[QUOTE=El Greco]Great report, keep up the good work and many thanks for sharing.

Any transportation info from/to Quito?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Michael 1967 is a real sport. He sent me the majority of this information via pm on his own will. It made missing my trip a little more bearable.

Thanks


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I flew into Guayaquil but I do have some information...During my trip to Montanita, I encountered several people that were robbed on several buses (from Guayaquil). I have been told since the first day that I began traveling never to ride a bus at night. These people all rode buses in the early morning or after dark and were robbed. They all knew not to ride at night but figured it was more convenient. One had $500 cash and his laptop stolen while the other had every possession that he had owned stolen. The others, had a small amount of cash taken.

I was with a large group of well-traveled Europeans and each one of them had a story of being robbed on a bus (or waiting for a bus) in Latin America at night. So I guess you should follow conventional wisdom and stay off the buses at night. There are flights from Quito to Manta if you don't want to do the long bus ride (my girlfriend did the bus ride a few years back and was terrified the entire trip...the driver had a hard time going down the mountains and the bus was out of control several times). The bus ride from Guayaquil is about 3.5 hours by bus. There are no flights from Guayaquil to Manta.

Everyone I spoke to preferred Quito over Guayaquil and in retrospect, I should have flown in to Quito.
[QUOTE=El Greco]Great report, keep up the good work and many thanks for sharing.

Any transportation info from/to Quito?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

After several attempts to go to the chongos in Manta, I found a cab driver that was anxious to take me to a chongo. The other cab drivers told me it was too dangerous and too far away to go there, but in the end, I found out that it is just out of the way and really not worth their time. They can stay in a small area and pick up a lot of fares in an hour or they can drive a person to the chongos pick people up there and drive them even further out of town. The further away they are from the central area, the greater possibility they have of being robbed, so for many, especially those with new cabs, they were not willing to make the drive. I met my cab driver on Sunday afternoon and he told me that I had to go to the chongos because the girls were much cheaper than the girls at Nashville South and El Caribe. Like everything else in Manta, the chongos are closed on Sunday, so he set up a time and place to meet me Monday evening; he was only 45 minutes late (that is a good thing).

As I mentioned in my previous post, I’m not just looking for a wet vagina. I really do like to meet the women and talk to them awhile and actually like them before I screw them. I’ve been to Lima, but never bothered with the brothel there, I was able to meet girls on the Calle de Pizzas and take them back to my hotel for $20. In Guatemala, I spent most of my time in chongos, they were just normal bars with attractive women sitting around in them. A person would hang out, have a few beers, talk to people and when the urge hit, he would grab a girl and take her in the back room. In Guatemala, I would sit for an hour or two drinking beer and chat up the girl that I wanted, when I was ready, we’d go in the back for 30 minutes. Afterwards, I would stay and talk to other girls or hang out with her some more. Many of the Guatemalan guys would get the girls really wasted and then take them in the back and screw them, at first I thought that was pretty shitty of them until I did it once and I have to admit, screwing a drunk prostitute is much more fun than screwing a sober one (I now believe that this is true for regular women too). Anyway, in Guatemala, after one or two lays, the girl would go home happy as a clam because she made good money and would then take several days off of work.

This was nothing like El Puente. My cab driver and I showed up and the place was packed. When we pulled up there were guys outside begging my cab driver to take them home. This is something that is important to remember, because both El Puente and El Infierno are quite a bit away from all the other open businesses and there aren’t cab drivers sitting there waiting to take people home. So finding a cab back to Manta could be a problem. As we were leaving, there were many groups of Ecuadorian men walking down the road in search of a taxi. This is okay for them because almost all Ecuadorian men do things in groups, but for the American or European that is uncomfortable inviting their friends to a chongo, they are alone and I can’t believe that walking that street alone could be safe. Anyway, inside there were more than 100 guys (on a Monday evening) gathered in one large circular room. Around the exterior of the room there were 34 doors. Each door had a prostitute in from of it. Many of the guys had been drinking for hours and were completely wasted. The men outnumbered the women about 3 or 4 to 1. If a guy wanted a prostitute, he simply walked into the room that the prostitute was standing outside of, she would close the door and that was it. After the guy left, the prostitute would walk over to the gate, pay the house its share and then go back and stand by the door and another guy would get up and walk in. Over an hour, I was able to see every prostitute in the place but over that I hour I saw many prostitutes disappear 3 times. It was a busy operation, so busy that I felt sorry for the girls. I couldn't imagine having sex with that many people in a day (well, actually I could, but it is probably different for them). The attractive girls had guys lined up waiting for them. As I said previously, Ecuadorian men like a different type of woman than American men, they like them a little thicker, so if you’re into skinny chicks, you probably won’t have much of a wait. I did speak to one girl and she was just an absolute sweetheart and for the first time in years I felt bad. She was such a sweet kid and all I wanted to do was stick my dick in her for a few bucks. It wouldn’t have been an issue if she was mean and nasty.

Anyway, the cost for the girl is $7 or $8. I believe it was $8, but looking at my e-mails that I sent immediately after I went, they said $7. None of that matters because you will probably be charged a gringo surcharge. The girls do oral, anal and regular sex. Oral and regular sex should be the amount that I quoted above, anal should be higher. Unfortunately, with Americans and Europeans the price will probably be 1.5 to 2 times higher depending on how good your Spanish is. At the same time, because this place is so busy, your options are limited…yes, you can drive a hard bargain and refuse to pay extra but why would she even bother with you when there are 3 guys lined up outside her door waiting for you to finish?

After I left El Puente, I made a quick stop at El Infierno since it is less than a mile from El Puente and on the same street; it was pretty much the same thing. It was much smaller but the men outnumbered the women at least 5 to 1 and like El Puente, it simply wasn't my thing...the prices were the same but I didn't partake.

Probably the most interesting part of the trip was the ride home. I paid the $7 or $8 bucks for the cab driver to go with one of the girls...mainly because he was irritating me by trying to get me to go with the first available girl in the place instead of giving me time to look around. As we were leaving El Infierno, he stopped and picked up two of the working girls and gave them a ride home. As they got out of the taxi, there was a family waiting for a taxi, he picked them up and gave them a ride home. As they got out, he picked up another group and gave them a ride home. At that point, we were not only just outside of Manta, but were also way outside of Montecristi…another town/city quite far from Manta (probably not terribly far, but when you can only drive 30-35mph on the roads, it’s far). At some point, he was showing me the knife/machete that he keeps under his seat to use on people that try to rob him and it occurred to me that I was in the middle of nowhere, at night, alone and with a cab driver with a gigantic knife that was slightly nutty. My first inclination was to jump out and run, but I had not seen another cab for about 40 minutes, so I was stuck with him.

He turned out to be okay, but I have to remember that I have a family that depends on me and I probably shouldn’t be getting myself into situations where I can get killed. So even though I wanted to, I didn’t make any more trips out to the chongos.

Next up…
My final comments on Manta and tips that I received from local men on scoring local girls…unfortunately, they all came 2 days before I was to leave town.

[QUOTE=Michael1967]I spent the last 35 days in Manta and Montanita as well as a couple of days in Guayaquil. This is part one of Manta.

As far as the local scene as meeting women. It is near impossible. Women simply don't talk to men on the street. In the bars and discotecas, women don't go unescorted and if they go unescorted (such as in groups) they are instantly hounded by the hundreds of men that have no women with them. Women do not buy drinks for themselves here. They simply sit and wait until guys buy them drinks. They do not dance or spend any time alone with strangers (the exception is Conga on Thursday nights). In a nutshell, it is nearly impossible to meet a "normal" girl for sex without developing some sort of relationship. I should mention that if you are under 35 and have blonde hair and blue eyes, the women will fight each other to get you. The "European" look is treasured here and the women love the men that look different from them. Also, many discotecas do not allow single men to enter. Most men here drink in groups and many of the places are really small. They don't want to waste a table that could have 5-6 guys drinking on one guy by himself. So to solve this issue, they don't allow guys to enter alone.[/QUOTE]A superb report, Michael1967 - absolutely top-notch.

I am glad you posted this because, very few others have posted Manta trip reports. Also very few others have posted trip reports about finding non-pros. My experience in Manta was simliar to yours.

In 07, I spent several weeks in Guayaquil and 1 week in Manta. My results where similar in both cities: After sampling the local brothels and dropping my load, I spent my days wondering the streets and hitting on female shopkeepers, I spent my evenings in the bars and hit on the females there - I mostly went to bars on Avda Flavio Del Reyes. I am more interested in finding non-pros, and use the brothel action as a fall-back/supplement.

I am not a bad-looking guy and I am stylishly dressed and well-groomed, I didn't find the shopgirls in Ecuador to be too freindly or to be too easy to get into bed. I only scored with putas in the prostibulos. The girls in the niteclubs were even harder to land.

I wasn't too successful with hitting on non-pros. In fact, I would have been more successful in the states with the amount of time I spent hitting on women. (To be fair: in ECU I was hitting on 18-29 y/os and in the states I would hit on 30-39 y/os). Perhaps it was because my spanish was not yet up to par. It seemed to me that both Guayaquil and Manta were both rich cities. I stayed in the elite areas, and therefore spent most of my time in the posh areas, and tended to meet uppercrust women.

It is either that the culture in Ecuador is too conservative or perhaps I was hitting on girls in the richer areas and they were too rich and I had nothing to offer them. What I need are poor women, because I have something to offer them.

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[QUOTE=Michael1967]Bars - Nashville South and El Caribe, these are two bars next to each other that are owned by the same lady. She's a very sweet old lady, but she knows why people show up in her bars and she delivers. These are located on the Malecon between Calle 13 and Calle 15. Originally, I did not like these locations and most of you will not either. I like to sit, buy the girl a few drinks, talk for awhile and then when I'm ready to leave take the girl home and screw her. A majority of the girls there have no interest in anything but getting in finding a guy screwing him, taking the money and leaving.

There are between 15 to 20 regular girls that work there. Now matter what others say, these girls are not part-timers. A majority of them have that "I'm a prostitute and will rob you blind" look in their eyes. I avoided those and spoke with the other ones. Every female in the bar is for sale including the waitresses and the bartenders, with the exception of two. They are the nieces of the owner. You can tell who they are because one collects all of the money when the owner is gone and selects the music on the computer the other has very light skin and works as the bartender. Both are hotter than almost all of the prostitutes in there. You can probably figure them out by the fact that they will not let you get close to them, will not hug you and will throw you out on your ass if you try and offer them money.[/QUOTE]I went to these two bars. To find a budget hooker in Manta, these two bars are ground zero. I found the quantity and quality lacking.

I like spinners with skinny bodies, and many Ecuadorianas have ample bodies. Maybe there were 5-8 girls in each place. None of the girls at the tables appealled to me. The only hot women were the waitresses and bar staff. I fell in love with one of the cute waitresses. I didn't realize that they were also for sale. As I would have definitly brought one of them home with me. The girls seemed to arrive in Taxis and hung out outside these two places. None of the streetwalkers appealled to me. All were older and fatter. The Pizza place was dead.

Perhaps the quantity was lacking because I came at the wrong time of year. I am sure when the Tuna Fleet is in town that these bars are happening.

There are much much hotter women in the chongos (slender, killer bodies).

[QUOTE=Michael1967]After several attempts to go to the chongos in Manta, I found a cab driver that was anxious to take me to a chongo. The other cab drivers told me it was too dangerous and too far away to go there, but in the end, I found out that it is just out of the way and really not worth their time.[/QUOTE]Terrific report, Michael1967 -

Chongos seem to be your only safe bet for budget mongering in Manta. The BIG BIG problem with Manta, is, as you mentioned, that the two main chongos are on the outskirts of town. I had only a tiny bit of trouble finding a taxi to take me there $5 cab ride. You run the small risk of getting jacked by highwaymen on the trip outside town. That's why Quito and GYE are better mongering spots - the chongos are located intown.

The old Emperado, was right next door to El Imperio. It must have changed its name. El Imperio was the largest brothel I have seen in Ecuador, other than Calle 18.

Photos of these 2 brothels can be found in the photo section: [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=687077[/url]

Hello.

Last week I returned from Ecuador.

I was in Quito where I went to see Noches de Paris. Noches de Paris is cheap, prices are $ 7 but the rooms are very small. This room does not invite a pleasant stay. You must be very accustomed to being comfortable in these rooms.

La semana pasada volví de Ecuador.

Estuve por Quito donde fui a ver Noches de Paris. Noches de Paris es barato, los precios son de 7 dolares pero los cuartos son muy pequeños. Estos cuarto no invitan a una estancia agradable. Tienes que estar muy acostumbrado para estar agusto en estos cuartos.