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[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]This hotel is presently my favorite in Valencia.

It is well situated on the Bolivar ave, close from restaurants, girl friendly, with free Internet in the lobby and the restaurant.

They have 2 kinds of rooms : The old ones and the new ones.

Of course, the new ones are the better.

Prices are very reasonable : 235.000 B$

Breakfast is nice.

I let you have a look.[/QUOTE]

Could you tell us pls what rate you got for the buck? becoz if you got the official rate your price would be arround 109 usd?? right?? Are these the prices for the old or the new rooms???

LOL


Johan

What did you learn?

Mistake, mistake, mistake... you paid her upfront. Never, never, never even discuss money up front(though obvioulsy when working with an agency that becomes a difficult task) and absolutely do not pay upfront, regardless of whether it is an agency or not. If they want the money first, show them the door.

You didn't and what happened? It was a disaster. You gave her all the control by paying her and she turned into a hardened pro because of it. If you had not paid her till the end you probably would have had a doll experience.

I can tell that you like to rate these gals as being a doll, bad experience etc. What you don't realize is a lot of the time, it's not the gal that makes the gal a doll or a bad experience... it's what you do. Does that make sense? I.e. you paid her upfront... instant hard girl will come out now. Figure out how to not pay until the end and then she is stuck with 2 choices... 1) leave now or 2) actually try to please you and make it an enjoyable experience for you.

Had you not paid her you would not have had all these issues about putting condom on early, not wanting to mess around in shower, trying to leave early, etc. Even trying to get BBFS... why would she? She already has 230k pesos. She may as well play as many games as she can to fuck you over and get out of there as fast as psossible. Now, had you not paid her the thought will still be in her head that she has to actually pleae you to the best of her ability and be a complete doll and do everything you say. Heck, you might even get BBFFS for an extra 10k pesos. Why? Because, you have not yet paid her, she is probably still thinking in her mind that maybe you aren't really going to give her the money. But then when you bring up an extra 10k pesos out of nowhere, now you are talking $$$, a language she loves. When people speak a language they love they say yes yes yes. Once you've already given her the money and you start asking for things, she's simply thinking in her head that she already has the money so it's no, no, no.

To this day, you probably jsut think she's real hard etc. when the truth is she may be a sweet doll.. .it was your error, thus your waste of an hour.
See... it's not the gal. It's you, for paying her. Does that make sense?




[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]After calling 10 girls from the site with no success, I decided to call an agency. I chose Roses Paradise Vip.

At that moment, they had 2 available girls and I asked them to send me the slimmest.

I gave the name of my hotel (Stauffer) and my room number and she called me back immediately to check my hotel and room number and send me the girl: Luce. She asked me to tell the reception that I was waiting for a girl and that they should let her go to the room, I did so, and some 30 minutes later Luce was knocking at my door.

That girl is really a cutie. Tiny (1, 6m? ), dark long hair, real slim, bright eyes, small and natural tits, a nice face, to resume: a doll.

She established the relation asking me if I could guess where she was coming from. I had to tell her all the country’s town I could remember till she told me yes: Barquisimeto.

She asked me if I wanted her for 1 or 2 hours before we start.

As she was so cute I was thinking of asking for 2 hours (330) and proposed her to wait and see if I was willing to go for a second hour. She told me that if it was like that I would have to pay twice an hour (230) instead of paying 330. That made my decision easy: one hour. She asked me to pay her before we could start (230 with taxi).

After that, she slowly took my clothes off. Once in shorts she started to kiss my best friend with the shorts and to bite it gently. It’s a nice erotic game but when you’re used to go with a lot of girls, this game has little interest. It lacks the capacity of rising your best friend real hard.

I took my dick out of my shorts to let her starts stronger games but she immediately took her condom and, despite of my protests, she covered me with it. At that moment I lost 90% of my appetite.

First, I don’t know what brand of condom she used but they were very narrow, second, with that bloody condom I loose all the sensations of the tongue along my dick, and you don’t fell the lips any more gently pressing the best zone on your sensitive skin.

Finally, Luce tried to make up for it pressing my dick quite hard with her lips. That produced the opposite effect to me: pain.

As it was really not good, I stopped her and went intercourse. We did several positions but I had lost the interest I had at the beginning. I did her quite hard but that condom didn’t let me feel much. Luce was moaning, but after a while she got tired and just waits for me to finish.

But I just couldn’t come, and, at the contrary, I was loosing stiffness As I was tired and breathless, I went on my back and took the condom out and asked her to blow me. She asked me for an extra 50. 000B$ to do it!

After a small talk she agreed to Blow me and I have to say that she did it well. Unfortunately after 10 minutes it was obvious that I wouldn’t come. I tried to help her, I explained her how to blow me well, but no, I just couldn’t come.

We stopped and Luce went to the shower.

I asked her to try once more under the shower with soap but she told me that time was over. There was still 15 minutes to go. I insisted and she did a very bad HJ. When we went out of the shower I tried to convince her to let me take a picture of her. But NO, No and NO. She explained me that her pictures were in the sexyvalencia site. I proposed her a picture without face, with clothes, from her back, but she remained firm: No picture.

The funniest thing after all that was when she asked me when would I call her back!

What a pity, Luce has a real nice doll’s body like I like, but I really had a bad time with her.

Cheers

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[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]

That girl is really 100% repeatable, I strongly recommend her.

This report is freely translated from my original Spanish report of sexyvalencia.com site.

Cheers

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How much did she charge you for one hour at your hotel?

[QUOTE=Johan007]Could you tell us please what rate you got for the buck? Becoz if you got the official rate your price would be arround 109 usd? Right? Are these the prices for the old or the new rooms?

LOL

Johan[/QUOTE]I changed a 6000B$ for a buck.

[QUOTE=Blastoff]How much did she charge you for one hour at your hotel?[/QUOTE]
200 + 30 for the taxi.

You can check prices in the sexyvalencia's pages.

[QUOTE=Winner71]What did you learn?

Mistake, mistake, mistake. You paid her upfront. Never, never, never even discuss money up front (though obvioulsy when working with an agency that becomes a difficult task) and absolutely do not pay upfront, regardless of whether it is an agency or not. If they want the money first, show them the door.

You didn't and what happened? It was a disaster. You gave her all the control by paying her and she turned into a hardened pro because of it. If you had not paid her till the end you probably would have had a doll experience.

I can tell that you like to rate these gals as being a doll, bad experience etc. What you don't realize is a lot of the time, it's not the gal that makes the gal a doll or a bad experience. It's what you do. Does that make sense? I. E. You paid her upfront. Instant hard girl will come out now. Figure out how to not pay until the end and then she is stuck with 2 choices. 1) leave now or 2) actually try to please you and make it an enjoyable experience for you.

Had you not paid her you would not have had all these issues about putting condom on early, not wanting to mess around in shower, trying to leave early, etc. Even trying to get BBFS. Why would she? She already has 230k pesos. She may as well play as many games as she can to fuck you over and get out of there as fast as psossible. Now, had you not paid her the thought will still be in her head that she has to actually pleae you to the best of her ability and be a complete doll and do everything you say. Heck, you might even get BBFFS for an extra 10k pesos. Why? Because, you have not yet paid her, she is probably still thinking in her mind that maybe you aren't really going to give her the money. But then when you bring up an extra 10k pesos out of nowhere, now you are talking $$$, a language she loves. When people speak a language they love they say yes yes yes. Once you've already given her the money and you start asking for things, she's simply thinking in her head that she already has the money so it's no, no, no.

To this day, you probably jsut think she's real hard etc. When the truth is she may be a sweet doll. It was your error, thus your waste of an hour.

C. It's not the gal. It's you, for paying her. Does that make sense? [/QUOTE]Hi Winner.

Yes, you're probably right, but:

This is something special: Venezuela!

You have to call these girls from the sexyvalencia page, and, as I wrote I called 10 girls before I decided to call an agency.

I haven't find so far a club or something like that where you can go, and choose a girl among several like in Colombia or Ecuador.

Now, when she came, it was already late and if I show her the door as you say it is mostly evident that I won't find another girl because it's too late.

Then I have 2 possibilities:

1) Say Bye and use my own HJ.

2) Take my chance

I think that if I refuse to pay before and tell her it's like that or leave, if she stays the relation will be complicated because she may think that I won't pay her. I understand that they ask for early payment because some guys don't want to pay after they came.

Solution... show her the money and tell her it's a policy of yours to not pay until the end because you have found that when you pay in advance the service is never as good. Tell her and in these exact words... "By not paying you until after the deed I am guaranteeing that the service will be up to par as I can ask her to leave at any time if I feel you are not what I was expecting. 200k bs is a lot of money. I'm certain you will be my dream come true and I'll stick the money right here in my wallet and it's all yours after we are finished."

This alleviates any issues. After that she should have a perfect 10 in attitude. If she doesn't and you are just not liking the way things are going I would stop in the middle of the session. Espress your concerns and tell her "I'd really like you to stay, but it's just not working out. So here is 25% or 50% of the money and now I'm going to have to ask you to leave."
If she says, why?... this is where you get what YOU want.
[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]Hi Winner.

Yes, you're probably right, but:

This is something special: Venezuela!

You have to call these girls from the sexyvalencia page, and, as I wrote I called 10 girls before I decided to call an agency.

I haven't find so far a club or something like that where you can go, and choose a girl among several like in Colombia or Ecuador.

Now, when she came, it was already late and if I show her the door as you say it is mostly evident that I won't find another girl because it's too late.

Then I have 2 possibilities:

1) Say Bye and use my own HJ.

2) Take my chance

I think that if I refuse to pay before and tell her it's like that or leave, if she stays the relation will be complicated because she may think that I won't pay her. I understand that they ask for early payment because some guys don't want to pay after they came.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]I changed a 6000B$ for a buck.[/QUOTE]
Did you got this rate in the hotel or in the airport or somewhereelse?

wowww man thats a GOOD rate!!!!!!!!!!!!

i mean 6000 for a USD./...

Johan

[QUOTE=Johan007]Wow man, that's a good rate!

I mean 6,000 for a USD.

Johan[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Andy S]Did you got this rate in the hotel or in the airport or somewhere else?[/QUOTE]If you want to know the street exchange rate, go here :

[url]http://www.veneconomia.com/site/[/url]

Unospongebob encouraging others not to post.

Mill just = mastermind

Johan007 crsAnd then, click on Tipo de cambio.

Now the problem is to find someone who will give you that rate.

I change with my venezuelian's business partners.

Guys who propose you to change money at the airport are just damn thiefs. Of course they will give you more than thr bank, but way less than the real rate. I never leave Venezuela without money. When I return (every 2 months) that money is less than when I changed it but is still better than changing at the airport, and I don't have to wait to see my money changers if I want to monger cheap Someone reports me that private bank would give you a street rate (to be verify). If you go from Bogota, the airport exchange money will also give you an average rate.

So solution is to arrive with some money to pay the first need and with notes to change at street rate.

Be careful of thiefs.

If you can manage this, Venezuela is now a not so expansive country with pros at 30 bucks.

Good luck

[QUOTE=Winner71]Solution... show her the money and tell her it's a policy of yours to not pay until the end because you have found that when you pay in advance the service is never as good. Tell her and in these exact words... "By not paying you until after the deed I am guaranteeing that the service will be up to par as I can ask her to leave at any time if I feel you are not what I was expecting. 200k bs is a lot of money. I'm certain you will be my dream come true and I'll stick the money right here in my wallet and it's all yours after we are finished."

This alleviates any issues. After that she should have a perfect 10 in attitude. If she doesn't and you are just not liking the way things are going I would stop in the middle of the session. Espress your concerns and tell her "I'd really like you to stay, but it's just not working out. So here is 25% or 50% of the money and now I'm going to have to ask you to leave."

If she says, why?... this is where you get what YOU want.[/QUOTE]Sounds good.

I'll try that, but once again, I think it will be easier in Colombia than in Venezuela.
But I'll try.

Thanks.

I went to this site. Is this T.V. Permutas rate the street rate?

I.e. today it says...
Buy Bs 6.000/US$
Sell Bs 6.400/US$

[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]If you want to know the street exchange rate, go here :

[url]http://www.veneconomia.com/site/[/url]

Good luck[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Winner71]I went to this site. Is this T.V. Permutas rate the street rate?

I.e. today it says...
Buy Bs 6.000/US$
Sell Bs 6.400/US$[/QUOTE]

Looks like a trip to Venezuela is in store very soon. With these rates and an ex-novia waiting to rekindle la magia, the time is right.

Maracaibo here I come! ... can ya blame me? :)

I'd think you would be foolish not to continue the magic with that Barbie Doll.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Looks like a trip to Venezuela is in store very soon. With these rates and an ex-novia waiting to rekindle la magia, the time is right.

Maracaibo here I come! ... can ya blame me? :)[/QUOTE]

Y'all,

Have there been any changes to the currency lately? Reading my Lonely Planet guide book, it said that one should only use the Black Market if you're familiar with the current money (so you don't take any obsolete bills).

Thanks.

S