2006 Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Adimondo]Thank you for the response, JS! Unfortunately my PC displayed "Bad Request", so I couldn't get the information. Will try "Bangkok Post" from July 29th online.

This is a subject directed mainly to the BKK-residents: did the new Suvarnabhumi airport get started its operations? Will the domestic flights also be operated from the new airport, or from Don Muang (old one), or from both? Are the transfer means I. E. Skytrain/metro already set up? I've already bought my international and domestic tickets for the next winter and my travel agent in Europe couldn't give any details on this matter.

Thx & keep safe![/QUOTE]Latest info is that new aqirport will be operational on 29 Sept. 2006

[QUOTE=Adimondo]Thank you for the response, JS! Unfortunately my PC displayed "Bad Request", so I couldn't get the information. Will try "Bangkok Post" from July 29th online.

This is a subject directed mainly to the BKK-residents: did the new Suvarnabhumi airport get started its operations? Will the domestic flights also be operated from the new airport, or from Don Muang (old one), or from both? Are the transfer means I. E. Skytrain/metro already set up? I've already bought my international and domestic tickets for the next winter and my travel agent in Europe couldn't give any details on this matter.

Thx & keep safe![/QUOTE]

The airport transfers over on 28th September for all flights to BKK, and yes the new airport will keep the BKK code when it comes online on 28th Sep. There are a few trial flights operating out of the new one, but they are very small in number. All flights domestic and international will transfer to the new airport on 28th Sep. There are no transfers between the airports as they won't be needed.

There is no train service to the new airport, although I do understand it is being planned or is being constructed. I think it is meant to be a dedicated service and not an extension of Skytrain or the Metro.

[quote=adimondo]...did the new suvarnabhumi airport get started its operations? will the domestic flights also be operated from the new airport, or from don muang (old one), or from both? are the transfer means i. e. skytrain/metro already set up?...[/quote]
was at the new airport this saturday with the family, unlike any other airport i know in the world, the perimeter gates for emergency services turned onto car parks as people came to watch the flights, no police or security in sight, there were around 150 taxis doing nothing, but they were all new type, probably just for show. the aiport looks far from ready, there are diggers and trucks still on the runway area, and everything looks half done, but tit. flights did take place, we were sat only 30m from the main runway watching the landing and take-offs, kids loved it.
my understanding (could be wrong) is that all internation flights will move to the new airport, but only thai airways will be running domestic flights from there, all the low cost carriers will be running from don muang (i wonder why!!). there will be a high speed train, independant of the metro and bts, it will run from the airport directly to victory monument, but from what i have seen, only half of the pillars have been completed so far, so it won't be ready for a long while yet.
the weekend of activities was more for show of face than actual operations, everyone involved with the project says theres no way the airport can actually open, but the government are insisting it will be so.

[QUOTE=Priamos]One of my heart's secret desires (or not so secret...) is girls who have a bit of meat on their bones, and a biggish bust as well. Conversely, I don't like thin girls very much and I'm normally not willing to pay good money for their company. Now, the worst cliche of Bangkok girls is of course, petite, skinny, small framed, etc. but in my experience this does not have to be so.

During my last visit (separate post) I solved my "problem" by walking into some of the larger gogo bars in Soi Cowboy and telling the staff exactly what I was looking for. They accomodated me by lining up in front of me some of their chubbiest colleagues - usually bar staff and waitresses who, I suppose, had been relegated from dancing because most punters have a different taste from mine. The snag is/was, these girls were often not only chubby but unattractive in a more general sense of the word.

Another option for BBW lovers is hanging out in the bars of Patpong 2, where a small number of large-framed Isaan girls can be found at all times of the day. This, however, is very much hit-and-miss. So, I'd like to ask my fellow mongers: does anyone share my taste? And, if so, do you have any tips to share regarding the availability of young, chubby and busty ladies in BKK?[/QUOTE]Priamos,

I also lean strongly towards full-figured gals. And I like them tall too, nothing under 165 cm without shoes and preferably above 168 cm. For me, this used to mean that I would have to hunt around Bangkok for days at a time just to find someone I liked. But eating habits are changing and the girls seem to be getting bigger and taller by the year.

This is what has worked best for me in hooking-up with these types:

1. Explore the area around Grace Hotel and the Pub directly across the street. A lot of Middle Easterners hunt here and they love em' chubby. I think most of these girls are very unnatractive but you can find gems with the body types we like. There is a sprinkling of Turkish, Russian, and Eastern European girls around there too.

2. In this area, you can also see a lot of Africans, mostly male but you can often find a few unattached female tourists from countries like Kenya, South Africa, Liberia, or Ghana. I've had a few great GFEs with these. But watch out for the Nigerians, they are usually attached to some guy and often out to scam if they let you talk to them.

3. Regular Thai girls you often see in the malls, around Siam Square, etc. are sometimes chubby but extremely cute. If you've got some charm and have a basic idea about how to approach regular Thai girls in public places, this might be worth a try. I met a very cute and young chubby student in Starbucks this way.

4. Try Kings Corner in Patpong One. I remember there is one very chubby taller girl (168 cm) who works there. I think she speaks pretty good Arabic and basic English. She dances once in awhile but usually she just hangs on the side.

5. If all else fails, go to Khaoshan Rd. and take a shot at picking-up a drunk Farang girl. Of course its not hard to find chubby girls amoung this set.

Good luck.

I have to pity the poor souls who get arrival dates in the first month or so - if it's anything like Denver in the US prepare for chaos.

Eden Club
I know Eden club has been written about extensively on this forum but I thought I would put in the one that I had two days ago. I have not been there before but was aware of how it worked from some of the reports that are here.
I arrived about 4 pm and found Bruce waiting at the door. He immediately explained how it worked and how it was 3600 Baht for 90 minutes with two girls and that they were all did lesbian as well.
They had a lineup within five minutes of me being there with one other guy to choose from the 12 or so girls assembled. The right of the yellow line on the wall was girls who did anal and the left the girls who did not. Not much choice as far as I was concerned as I prefer the fresh younger and less makeup look but ended up choosing a girl of 25 named Ngoc who had a nice face and a decent body. She choose another friend from the group who I would not have chosen normally but I was just there for the experience.

They were friendly and took me up to the room which is small but quite nice and put a porn movie on the DVD Player. One girl took me into the shower and proceeded to lather me up concentrating on cleaning the old fella.

The rest of the time was quite decent with not much in the way of lesbian going on but they both seemed to enjoy rimming me and did a bit of strapon action with each other.
Nothing else particularly special but in the end I was satisfied with my two pops and a little bit of massage in between. They did not seem rushed at any point and were very friendly the whole way through. I would not hesitate to go back and think that the work ethic that has been enforced by Marc who I have been told is admirable and a very good job all up.

Me and my mate.

Day 2 = The Torment of the Prima Donna

So it’s 9am and boy do we feel like shit. You know that old saying, “when your young you can party for three days and need one to recover & when your old you can party one day and need three to recover”? Damnation if that does not start to feel true. I hate that! But we suck it up and head down to Soi7 to the large pool hall. We arrive and what the hell, it’s closed or something. Quick check with the girls and it’s the owner’s b-day. Oh well, we cross the road to one of the smaller places and decide to hang out there until the food hall opens. So we play pool and drink “soda” until 12:30. Two hours of pool and 10 sodas cost us less the 500bht. We head over and Nong is not there, it’s her day off, but her brother is at one of the tables putting on make-up. Oh gee dude! We order a whole squid in lime sauce (Mediocre!), deep fired squid with garlic (V Nice), red curry chicken (Fantastic!!) and rice. This would be about the time we order two pitchers of beer, but somehow the word coke comes out. What pussies we are! Food & drink comes to 500bht.

After lunch we agree that more rest is required if we are going to go for a full FUBR session tonight. (FUBR = fucked up beyond recognition). So my mate heads for the hotel and I decide on a slight variation. Soi 7 ½ for a 2 hour oil massage!

Arrive Soi 7 ½ and immediately this girl from the fist massage place on the right hand side walks out to pitch her deal. Normally I go the place just before Eden Club but her 300bht 1 hour, 500bht 2 hour offer sounds good to me. She’s about a 6 I would say. Nice smile and very friendly. And this part is new to me. She says she and her friends rent rooms across the street in the hotel (forget the name) and would I go there with her. Hell why not. We walk in, past the lobby, up the stairs to the first floor and nobody says a thing. Cool stuff. Quick shower and I am on the bed, she gets undressed as well and the massage begins. Oh and she is not naked you guys! Gee! Panties and bra. She knows what she’s doing to, great massage, good strength and knows all the pressure points. Also, every 15min or so, she slightly massages my balls while I’m face down and my balls plus dick when I am on my back. The result being, I have now had a hard on for two hours. After the time’s up, seeing how hard it is, without a word she just starts stroking. I explode! Finish off with her giving me a shower. Hand her 500bht for the massage and 500bht for the “happy ending”. Absolutely worth it.

Head to the hotel to pick up my mate and we head of to Soi Cowboy. We have dates tonight with Bee and Tuk-Ta. We enter Country Road and do the usual. Play pool and this time we both order beer. Just had to mention that. Bee and Tuk-Ta arrive and joins us at our table. They both seem quite happy. But around 7pm we get hungry and quickly head back to Soi 7 for a TYK, red curry, veggies and rice. Again it’s around 500bht. In the meantime my mate must have received 2-3 sms from Bee & Tuk-Ta, where are you?? Why did you leave??? Are you coming back??? Horny girls me thinks. He’s also been getting sms from other girls in BKK who he met previously. “Baby, you in BKK, why you don’t tell me? Want to party tonight? And of course the usual “I miss you”. He He He. Wish I had his problems.

We’re back in Country Road, play some more pool, drink some more beer, but after a while decide to sit down at a table and enjoy the band and look at some girls. Since Bee and Tuk-Ta are servers tonight they come round every once in a while and tease us a little. Somehow the band are not the best tonight and there is this old & very drunk “Germanic” guy up front keeps requesting shity songs and basically embarrassing himself. You can see the girls giggling and laughing about him. But my mate has bigger concerns. Next to him in the corner is this large barrel of water with a single cup on top. Every 5 min or so a girls walks up, takes the cup, plunges it into the water, drinks a little and the rest water goes back into the barrel. He has started to count now. 1 girl, 2 girls………8 girls and so on. Plus most of the girls seem to be coughing a lot. This is really staring to freak him out. Even all the sms from the BKK girls are not giving hin any enjoyment. After a while Tuk-Ta come to our table and says she has a bad cough, sore throat and is going home. That’s it we’re out of here.

We head up cowboy and finally settle on Midnight Bar. We order some drinks and enjoy the view. We both see this girl that looks a lot like Tuk-Ta but with much bigger breasts. I think we both are fascinated by her. Probably both have a major hard-on for her. Three girls over is a girl I become intoxicated with. All I know is, that night, she was wearing the no. 58.

So anyway, quickly, taking a step back for the moment, here is rule “Number 1” my mate and I live by. Once you see a girl you like and have an instant attraction to, DON’T fuck around!! Get her attention, buy her drink or two, be a nice decent guy and that’s the one you’ll take home. Do not, I repeat do not keep looking around for something better you’ll just fuck it up!!

So it’s girl 58, she is nice, I smile, she smiles back and we have got the old eye contact going. The next thing I know this girl in a very sexy red dress comes up, sits down next to me and says hello. She speaks perfect English although with an American accent, so I have to take back the perfect English part I guess. (He He He, just a joke guys) She is definitely a looker. A bomb-shell would be a better description and my mate agrees. Basically a Prima-Donna. So slowly, bit by bit I move from girls 58 over to the girl next to me. Her name in Min and we go through the usual questions and play the usual games. Her hand is up my trousers and she starts to stroke my dick at the same time my hand is up her dress and she ever so slightly, is moaning. We kiss and she whispers in my ear “I want you tonight”. I bf her and of she goes to get changed. My friend says he’s bored with Cowboy and is heading off to Nana. I have another beer and wait for Min and we’re of to the hotel. Once in my room she strips down and oh boy oh boy does she have a great body. She wants to shower together and who am I refuse? In the shower it’s another bbbj but not to the point of cuming. We move to the bed, some more kissing and she continues with the bbbj, then she wants to ride me bb. But I quickly slip on a “yum yum” and she starts riding me. Then suddenly after 30sec or so I notice this fucking smell. I almost puke! God it’s revolting! I look down and see this build up of a thick white creamy sauce around the base of my dick and her pussy. This is bad! Real Bad! This is the nightmare scenario. My dick immediately goes soft and I just can’t perform. Then she starts laughing because I say I can’t. I push her of me, tell her to take a shower and she can leave! She does not understand and plays all dumb and thinks I am gay or something. I give her 100bht for a taxi and 500bht for her trouble. She thinks I am a rude and a mean farang now but what the fuck! Thinking back on it, I should have just kicked her out naked and thrown her cloths after her. I hit the shower use my mouth wash for ten minutes and half a bottle of special “detol” shower gel.

I sms my mate and as it turns out he’s back in his room without a girl. He comes over with a couple of beers and we discuss the nights event has men do. With lots of swearing and shouting. Fuck it, tomorrow is another day and we more or less take a blood oath and agree that we are going to go full power! Drink and fuck until we drop dead!

To be continued, with Day 3 = BKK is shut down & sex party in the hotel.

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There were so many things I had planned, but sometimes the best plan in BKK is no plan. Here's a quick recap of my most recent visit ..

Day 1 - Arrived late in BKK just after midnight, and had just enough time to get to NEP and pickup up a Rainbow girl on the 1st floor. I saw a lot of the usual eye candy on stage and one of the waitresses brought a girl over. Cute face, but did not have the tight body of some of the other hotties up on the stage and she would not have been my first choice. She cuddled up to me and did some marvelous stuff with her lips and hands, that "talked" me into bar fining her. I am glad I did. We had a great night! My welcome to BKK moment. Jam was a gem.

Day 2 - At around 4:00am in the wee hours of the morning, I awoke to the feeling of Jam's hands in my boxers and my 2nd welcome to BKK moment! Lol! This lead to session number 2! After working off some calories, we had room service breakfast and I told her she could sleep in. It was still about 6:00am and as usual when I travel to the far east, I had trouble going back to sleep. I think most of you know what I'm talking about. I know Sabai Sabai massage is 24/7 and knew Tak (rhymes with Duck) and I went to visit her and had an early morning massage. I had Tak before and she works the late shift which for her normally ends at 7:00am in the morning. Basic oil massage with hj at the end. FS is available if you take out. Since my guest Jam was still in my room, I stayed with the massage with happy ending. Tak was wearing a cute pair of white shorts that hugged her butt. While she was playing with my balls and giving me the hand job, I slowly worked the shorts down to her knees. I worked her pussy with my fingers and she got sooooo wet. She's a cutey and is worth a visit. 500 baht tip. She will ask for more, but be firm but kind. I think 500 is adequate reward for a hj.

Back to the room from Sabai Sabai, Jam was still sleeping. I went back to sleep for a few hours and when I awoke I saw Jam off. She gave me her number, but hey this is BKK, there were more experiences awaiting! The damage was 2,000 baht. A bit too much .. Maybe .. But no haggling and unlike some other Nana girls, she never talked about money.

In the afternoon I picked up a free lancer at the Beer Garden on Soi 7. Nee was a bundle of energy and provided more cardio activity than my heart could take! Lol! We then went to the Emporium to catch a movie and have some dinner at the Cafeteria. Great deal there, as 100 baht covered food and drink with change. Did not think it would be enough, but Nee assured me it would be fine and of course she was right. I went back to the hotel (Dynasty Inn Grande on Soi 6) for a power nap before my late night session.

Later in the evening I hit Soi Cowboy and hit several of the bars. I ended up picking up a stunner at Long Gun. Took her back to the hotel and had a great time. I stayed with the ST option as it was still early enough for both her and I to seek out other options. I went back to Nana and ended up in the Rainbow bar on the 2nd floor. I bar fined a looker, and she was great, but she was the one and only mercenary type I had on this stop in Bangkok. Once she was done, she was rushing to get back to the bar. The Rainbow bar on the 2nd floor is full of girls trying to pull off the J-Girl look. Very obvious which clientele they are trying to target.

Day 3 -
In the morning, I went to the Exchange and Internet shop near the hotel. I was reading an e-mail from Sailing, who I would see in Tokyo and just then 2 hotties walked in. I quickly noted my luck in my e-mail and in my hurry I now see that I typed in 3 instead of 2 in my excitement. Lol! There was one that I was definitely more interested in, but had some time to kill while re-charging my batteries, so I bought them breakfast and we went off to shoot some pool. Once my batteries were good to go, I took one of them back to my room and had another great session. She had just the greatest butt on her, which was clearly on display with her short shorts. Was not disappointed when I got them off. A before noon quicky set me back 1,000 baht. Not a bad deal.

In the afternoon, after a short nap, I went to the King and I Spa on Soi 12. It's more of a legit massage place, although I am sure it's a YMMV thing. I was hitting my first wall, so just a massage was fine for me. Cost was about 800 baht. It's a very nice place and very relaxing. The massage was great, so I would recommend it if you just want a great oil massage. After the massage, I went down the street to Cabbages and Condoms for lunch. Great place to eat and would highly recommend it if you have never eaten there. Might be a bit touristy for some, but I enjoy their selections.

Later in the evening, I met up with an esteemed member of the board and he was most generous in showing me around for the evening. A very cool guy now living in Thailand, who speaks fluent english. Knows his stuff! We visited the Colonze 2 soapie and I had another great time. I picked out an angel and off we went for a nice bath and fs. DATY really got her going and we had a great session. Silky soft skin and a definite GFE! After the Colonze 2 session, we were off to a hostess bar called the Pent Executive Club. A change of pace venue for the eye candy. We had a good time drinking and checking out the stunning girls there. It's on 31/1 Vittayu road, Lumpini Pathumwan. Phone 0 2655 3890-2. Many thanks to him for showing me around for the evening in one of the coolest cities in the world.

Day 4:
I went to Akane Fashion massage on Soi 33 and had Miho. She was one of the better looking girls there. The lineup was not that strong, but I do enjoy the massage and release there. She was very friendly and had a good bod, so it was a nice session. A nice rub and tug as they say. Total damage was just under 2,000 baht for the lingerie/nude massage and tip (1,450 and 500).

I had lunch and off I went back to the hotel or so I thought. I passed Nana and stopped at Hillary II for a quick game of pool and a drink to cool off. As I was awaiting my turn, two Isaan cuties smiled and I smiled back. It's just so easy here. They walk over and what should have a short pit stop turned into 12 hours of pool, drinking, dining, dancing, and of course sex. First came the 4 hours of pool and drinking. Later I bar fined both of them and we left the bar. I was only interested in one of them, but her friend was very cool too, so WTF. We went back to my room to shower and re-charge. We then went to Hillary I, which was having a party. We had more food and drinks, and a fellow hobbyist was hitting on my "dates" friend. We were laughing and telling her to go for it, but apparently he was not her type. Lol! We ended up at Angels (Nana) Night Club and danced the night away. We said farewell to her friend and spent the rest of the evening in bed not sleeping. I must say, there were a lot of lookers at Angels, but I was more than pleased with the "shy" angel that I had.

She played the "shy" game at first, but alittle DATY and she warmed up real fast. A great late night session and a cool morning session as well. Paid her a 2,000 baht tip and told her I would see her later that evening.

Day 5:
After the morning session with my Hillary II sweetie, I went and did the tourist thing for a few hours. I went to Angel massage in the afternoon and I must say they have a very good selection. There's a small room on the right as you go in and they sit/stand in a circle around the room. You stand by the doorway and make your selection. After Angel massage, I went back to Hillary II and spent the rest of the evening with my "shy" girl on my last night. We just clicked and I could not pass up on a 2nd evening with this sweet thing. In the morning, I said my good byes and went off to the Airport and on to my next stop in Japan.

What a great trip! Time just goes by too fast in this town and so many of the places that I wanted to visit or re-visit never made it on to my itinerary. Sazanka was on the list, but never made it. All for the best though, as there will be other days.

AT2

[QUOTE=Dinghy]I have to pity the poor souls who get arrival dates in the first month or so - if it's anything like Denver in the US prepare for chaos.[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm arriving on November 29th, so if they delay the opening another 2 months, that's going to put me in on the first day. Hopefully, I can cram all my stuff into a carry-on and a personal item, to avoid getting it lost in baggage handling.

Oldbuthappy, Jc373 and Meaty,

Thank you gentlemen for the updates!

I don't think my Bangkok experience can add anything decisively new to this distinguished forum, but, in any case, here are my 2cents for what its worth.

Several times in the past, I picked up uzbek girls for LT from Grace.

We used some of our free time at night to browse the internet and find info about Uzbekistan. It seemed the girls liked it; in particular, they really enjoyed uzbek songs.

Some of these songs are about homeland, parents, etc, and very intense. I noticed that some of these girls would change after listening these songs and become more friendly (GF enhancement) and, the chemistry is adjusted. Some of their initial stories are altered, some new sad stories are told, and, importantly, girls may stay longer. For one of them, I played the song several times because she wanted to write down the words. Overall, enjoyable time.

I took note of the bar ratings at Nana that someone posted a few weeks ago and decided I would do my own investigating as I usually like to see things for myself. First I will start off with all of the Rainbow bars. They are basically all the same design and all of them were packed when I went in. I stayed a Rainbow 1 for a beer but I found it kinda bad for checking out the merchandise. Basically the place was packed and the same girls dance in the same spot non stop. So if you dont like the girls your looking at Tough shit! So as you can see I quickly left there not to return to any of the rainbow bars. Basically too not make this too long and boring....Im just gonna mention the bars that caught my attention. The first one was Angel Witch. This bar is my 2nd favorite. They have shows of varying themes all the time and they have lots of girls of all shapes and sizes. The one thing I didnt like about this bar the girls were a little aggressive and you had to almost shoo them off like flies. Otherwise the chicks are nice and the bar has a great atmosphere. My favorite was Carnival. It had a nice atmosphere and best it had lesbian shows. I mean two chicks were up on stage under a shower eating each other out!! I hadnt seen full nudity in Nana shows but I have now. The shows are more explicit then the ones at Angel witch, so if you like nudity head here.


As for Soi Cowboy........I went there briefly on Saturday. The best bar was Long gun and the most disappointing was Suzy Wong. I had heard so many good things about Suzy Wong and it was pretty crappy. The chicks werent that nice and the music sucked. I went into a bar named Tonys and they had one chick who must have been over 40........She was terrible.....It was the quickest U turn I ever did.


So after a short visit to Soi Cowboy it was back to Nana.........



I will have to spend some more time @ cowboy before writing about it.....I cant remember how many times I been to Nana though or The Biergarten for that matter.


Cheers



RM

[QUOTE=Dimension]
Several times in the past, I picked up uzbek girls for LT from Grace.

Some of their initial stories are altered, some new sad stories are told...QUOTE]

It's not surprising these girls tell sad stories, they are trafficked by one mob or the other, usually the Chenchen mafia. I know Isaan farm girls don't have the same options as a Harvard MBA graduate, but compared with the unfortunate ladies at the Grace, Thai girls, no matter how poor, have infinitely more control over their lives.

Also, if you're a farang who walks tall and proud, you're not very welcome at the Grace.

Evil

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]
It's not surprising these girls tell sad stories, they are trafficked by one mob or the other, usually the Chenchen mafia. I know Isaan farm girls don't have the same options as a Harvard MBA graduate, but compared with the unfortunate ladies at the Grace, Thai girls, no matter how poor, have infinitely more control over their lives.

Also, if you're a farang who walks tall and proud, you're not very welcome at the Grace.

Evil[/QUOTE]
Evil P - I agree about the trafficking and control issues - to varying extents same thing happens in Dubai.

Not sure what you meant in your last sentence. Can you explain?

[Quote 1] Also, if you're a farang who walks tall and proud, you're not very welcome at the Grace. [Evil Penivel]

[Quote 2] Not sure what you meant in your last sentence. Can you explain? [Piper 1]

I think Evil P means that if you're American, and resolutely so, these days you may not feel welcome in the midst of a large group of partying Arabs. I experienced rather the same - though under radically opposite circumstances - during my last stay in BKK, which happened to coincide with the attacks in the London Underground. I stayed at Majestic Suites which, as you know, have a lot of visitors from the Gulf countries, and when they realised that I wasn't particularly upset about what had happened (I'm sick and tired of this this "War on Terror" and to some extent felt that the Brits had brought it on themselves...) my co-tourists decided that I was their best friend in the world. - Needless to say, this is not exactly the kind of accolade I appreciate. But, again, I suspect that a proud Yank in Grace Hotel might experience rather the opposite reaction from the locals.