Rio de Janeiro Reports

Sperto great report. Thank you.

Does anyone else know of any smaller, quieter bars in the Copa area where you can pick up a GDP girl?

Thanks

Many thanks to Sperto & Bubba Boy. Invaluable information.

Observations, opinions & recommendations:

• Print out Sperto’s & Bubba Boys maps & lists, take with you.

• Learn some Portuguese. You’re in their country, try to speak their language. If you have remedial Spanish skills it is helpful.

• Drink domestic beer (Skol, Brahma etc.), cheaper easier & you know what’s in your drink.

• Know your surroundings, the taxis tend to go in circles. Intentional or not you’ll save yourself time & money by barking out where to go if you know it.

•C arry hotel business card w/ you all times, taxi drivers don’t always know location by hotel name.

• Addresses & street signs very accurate in Rio, print out addresses of your destinations. When you are walking the locations are easy to find.

• Always, always question your bill, they will tack on extra s—t as habit (for example, nice restaurant in Recreio dos Bandeirantes- double charged me, my partner caught it, took 10 minutes of arguing and pointing at the prices on the menu to get the bill correct)

• Bring small notepad & pen everywhere, excellent for communications, negotiations & ph. #’s!

• Use this notepad at every establishment you have any doubt about pricing. Ask the front desk to write down all options, duration, room choices and drink prices. We started this ½ way thru the trip & clarity was achieved. No confusion, no hassle.

• Don’t recommend tipping, doesn’t seem customary, might even laugh at you, small change may be, IMHO.

Day 1: (Friday)

Arrive at airport 9am. Went straight to the booths for taxi, pay US $, easy no haggle. Staying at hotel Ibis R D J, Centro. Reserved rooms on web site by credit card: [url]http://www.ibishotel.com/gb/hotel-5534-ibis-Rio-de-janeiro-centro/index.shtml[/url]

Walking distance to 4X4, T 502 etc.

Pay cash in advance (seemed weird but no problem) 120R per night. Nice rooms. Good breakfast, friendly English speaking hotel staff.

*Definitely girl friendly, only one at a time though (no festas)

Need reaies, vitamins & sustenance: walk down R. Da Carioca/ Ave Nilo Pecanha to corner of Ave Rio Branco. Large underground mall SW corner, just past open square. Cambio: down escalator (2. 15R=1$). Back up escalator east exit, on Rio Branco: large drogaria. Helpful in the back, show qty and cost on computer, hassle free vitamin purchase.

Back to hotel- money in safe. 200R in money belt, 200R in shoe under gel foot pad, 200R in wallet. Ready for food and poonani. Back down R. Da Carioca/ Ave Nilo Pecanha, great Kilo Restaurant (I think name is Poa? ) south (right) side of street. 2 kilos of meet, 2 beers, 25 or so R’s.

It’s 1pm now. T 502 & 4X4 supposed to be open. Midget door on metal gate is open at 502. Crawl thru. They tell us no abrir until 2pm. Bulls—t. I’m horney. Across the street to 4X4. Whiskeria won’t open till 4pm, "but you can go into Terma". Don’t want to go thru rigmarole of putting a robe on if only 2 skrags in there. Back to T502. Sit out front chain smoking.

T502:2pm, abrir! Pay entrance (all prices listed on wall) get our entry drinks. A few garotas. Approached by one. Can’t figure us out. Broken, sloppy Porto mixed w/ Spanish. These gringos are green! No mind. She laughs, brings amigas over. Pointing at us laughing that we can’t speak any porto. We laugh more than them, ice broken. Nice quality. Start eyeballin’ plan C & B. Waiting for plan A to show up. A group sits with us, getting wasted together. One is a dark modelo, plan A in the sights. One makin’ fun of my partner, gonna be his grudge f---.

Going up: Grudge f--- partner up 1st. Front desk hacks him for the suite room. Did not realize, probably did not care. (you pay cash on the way up for room? Did not catch that in guides) I’m next. They try to charge 180ishR. Borracho courage. "F. That, muito dinheiro! " Price backed down to 130ishR for the normal room. Wait! This is the Mecca of culo & I forgot to negotiate ahead! Idioto. No probel. Excellent BBBJ, full service and just like the dessert plate at a fine restaurant after dinner, the culo is spread open and offered up without solicitation. I love this country!

Back down stairs, party and drink some more with our Garotas. Plan for a trip to Copa and festa manana. I negotiate 300R, partners get theirs down to 200R all day and night. I’m week for the culo. Get ph #’s and bail. No intention of filling my pockets with ice cubes when I go to the North pole. Just testing the water. Plan D, just in case.

Walk across the street, check out 4X4 Whiskeria. Quality-a-plenty. Worth the cover to check it out. Did not partake.

Get dinner, revitalize and get a Taxi to Florida & Escandinavia. Get there 11ish.

Florida 1st: Pay cover, upstairs and oh nooooo: sausage fest, pickle party! (must be a ship in) Friggen dudes dancin’ on the catwalk, not appealing. React quickly, grab one of the few available garotas. Ugly mug, dark but sweet bunda. Don’t care. To the cabin. Descent facilities from what I remember. Prices in guide accurate. They give you a magnetic card to track your drinks. Watch that card. Garota could walk off w/ it and by a round for the sailors. Special thanks: to my partners for sitting in there while I conducted business. They did not have many choices, too many sausages, not enough tacos. Bad ratio. Let’s try next door.

Escandinavia: a sad little place. Same problem, sea of trouser trouts. Have to make a move. Spot a spinner, peroxide blonde. OK I’ll go light this round. She’s jiggen around like a wack job. Get closer, sunken cheeks. . Crackhead. Oh well, probably get cheaper rate. Closer, whoa, really cheap. Bring her over to our table, now the partners are thoroughly grossed out. They say let’s get outa here! Wait, have to close the deal. How does it work here? F-it, "toda a noite? E’ possivel? Don’t remember discussing quanto. Vamos to my hotel? Partners are cringing. But. All night excellent service, culos, bbbj’s, swallow. Wacked is good! Wake up in morning for last round, sober now. "I have to go to work". Give 200R for excellent service, too much but she had no purse, no cell phone and probably doesn’t work very often. She could not figure out how to get to the lobby and get a cab, had to walk her down, front desk shaking their heads I’m sure. F-them.

Day 2, (Saturday)

Centro Termas closed. It’s VM day!

Need good food. East from hotel on R. Da Carioco/ R. Frei Caneca toward Praca da Republica turn left on 3rd or 4th street. A lot of outdoor places, great food, treated us well. Closed Sunday daytime and I assume holidays.

VM: This is Mogadishu meets Fallujah. Black hawk down. My style. Now we’re talkin’. Arrive 2pm, a little early, not yet hoppin’ but some Garotas. Start slammin’ Skols, have to get primed. Partner is drinkin vodka on the rocks, what’s in the ice? Even worse, what’s the clear liquid in the vodka bottle on the shelf? Start walking down all the indoor alleys. The one with the loop most active. All the people are cool to us. Good times. Settle on a place with qty of garotas. Questionable quality. We all grab one. Cost: 20ish R. Cabins are not as bad as described by some, but this aint the Hilton for sure. No ceiling? I can hear moaning next door. One partner barks "quit your moaning". This is entertainment but no chance of finishing. Next place. Girls are coming to work it’s 6-7-8pm, can’t remember. We settle into another place. Ugly skrag sits next to me, partners cringing. I go to take her up to gross them out, she asks for cinquenta R on the way up a tiny stair case. Not worth $23 for the effect. Looking at her going up the stairs grosses me out. Back down. Let’s go. Where is vodka drinking partner? Heaving in the toilet. Yikes! Man down. We’re in Fallujah after dark with a wounded partner. Took one to the stomach (too much clear liquid from the vodka bottle). Carry him out on our shoulders looking for a friendly APC (yellow cab w/ blue stripe and a meter that works). 4 cabs out front, all outa service, drivers drinking and f---ing. Stumble down R. Lopez de Sousa. No taxis! Another block or so find a taxi. We get out in one piece! Now that was friggen fun. I recommend this experience.

Midnight or so: Back to Florida for a solo mission to get an all nighter. Jumped by ugly face. Toda a noite for 200R + 50R bar fine. I am truly week for the culo, should have hacked her to 150R. Whatever, good all night activity and did not have to watch her with one eye open, good screening the night before determined as descent garota. Asked for taxi money in morning. "That’s all I got girl". Laughed and left.

Day 3 (Sunday)

Centro Termas closed again.

It’s Copa day. Have to get some legitimization photos. Wonder on the beach. Touts are annoying. Simple "nao, nao! " When that doesn’t work use the last resort "spreken ze duetch? " always works. Hang around Atlatntica restaurants till Help opens.

Help: got there early around 11pm or so. No matter, quality-a-plenty! Wow, so much poontang. Reasonable priced drinks, took awhile to figure out the drink ticket thing. This is a smorgasbord of garotas. All sizes all shapes. A little leary of the overpricing rumors. Let’d dig in: find plan C, there’s plan B, and oh yaaa, plan; A- tiny spinner, dark, classy. Rub up to her, starting at 500R. She speaks English. I say "you’re gonna leave me poor". Laughing but won’t budge. My partner sits down with one, she says "300R, if you were ugly I’d charge you 500R". Yes I am ugly. Have to lower my standards if I don’t wanna pay $230. We work the crowd for several hours and have a blast doing it. This place is great! 8’s, 9’s everywhere and it’s Sunday night. It’s getting late, plan C in effect, nice 8ish MILF settles for 260R all night. "you’re staying where? Centro, I ‘ll need Taxi money" she speaks too much English. We haggle to 280R. Chr—t these goratos are tough. We’re looking for a cab and she says "take my friends taxi" I say no and drag her down the street to a legit looking yellow cab. She protests. I say "just get in! " off to a sour start. No worries, make the best of it. She lightens up back in the room. BBBJ, good service, all positions, no culo, nice masturbation on herself to finish me with a visual. I got lucky and good screening helps.

Day 4 (Monday)

Let’s travel! The Beverly Hills of Rio. Rocereio dos Bandeirantes. There’s a Benz dealer on Av das Americas, must be upper class! 70ish R taxi ride from Centro. Cool driver, stopped for a lot of pictures on the way. Got there early so ate at the restaurant down the street. Good food, check your bill as always. Walking distance from Ancora and Paris Café.

Termas Ancora do Recreio: good quality, good quantity but bad attitudes. Stayed for a couple hours drinking, no activity. Give you magnetic swipe wrist band for tracking drinks.

Paris Café: now we’re talking. Strip cub atmosphere. Give you a paper card to mark down your drinks. Loaded, I say loaded with prime poontang dressed slutty. Ya! I love it. Settle on a stunner dark garota w/ short hair, tall, long legs, 8ish. Great attitude. Start drinking shots and get plastered. Partner picks his, another modelo. Head up to cabins. Really nice and big. So. She shoves a towel at the base of the door, cracks the window open and lights up a joint. "Para Voce? " wasted & stupid "sim" now I’m wasted& stoned. Idioto! Could have gone sour, but. . This was my best experience in Rio. She was super fun, all holes, BBBJ. Epic! This is the Mecca!

Day 5 (Tuesday)

Plane leaves at 8pm. Wake up late, check out. Hotel has very secure system for luggage storage. Out to 4X4, we have not been yet! Oh sh—t, everything is closed when we get outside. What the F? We hoof it to 4X4, closed, 502, closed. Is this a holiday? Back to the hotel ask front desk. Verified, holidy. Check Sperto and Bubba Boys lists. Looks like Monte Carlo is open on Sundays. They have to be open today! Not much time left. In the Taxi to Copa.

Monte Carlos: I hate robes! Leave my pantalones on, I’m goin’ commando today. This aint no fasion show and no one wants to see my legs anyway. Upstairs to the bar. Oh sh—t! It’s packed with super modelos, light, dark, blonde, brunette, skinny, big bunda, they got it all! Why the h-ll didn’t we come here before? Bad luck can become good luck. We all settle on our choices. A rare occasion that I get my plan A immediately. She speaks English. 8ish blond. BBBJ, no culo, but no broblem, the service was impeccable. Thank you Sperto and Bubba Boy: a perfect end to a perfect trip.

We will be back!

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[QUOTE=JuiceGuy]I am headed to Rio May 28-June 2. If anyone has any good contacts or recommendations please PM me. I haven't been to Brazil in 2 years and want to find some new stuff.

I love 4 x 4. Not a huge fan of Help. Please let me know if you have any good contacts or recommendations.

Also, let me know if anyone wants to hangout May 28 - June 2 with me and my wingman. Lots of fun!

I will definitely return the favor for any information.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I would love 2 go, but not sure if the time permits.

It's really interesting, that over the last year or so, more and more people are making this trip to VM. Or better yet, you find newbies asking how to get there. VM is a great experience. I think everyone should at least see it for themselves. I just hope that with all the great experiences that we post about VM, we aren't giving newbies a false sense of security about going there. It a place where, if some shit jumped off, you could be literally and figuratively FUCKED!!!

Compared to what happens in copa, how much worse could it be in VM?? A lot worse. Not complaining, just an observation on a really seedy part of down, that I happen to enjoy.

ryjer

hello guys

i know this is the never ending story about helpee... but has any heard anything if the close now on friday or maybe after the weekend? i will ofcourse go and look on friday just to see.

and if they shall close has any talk to the girls where they planing to go? some has said balcony but that place cant them all.

a theory i had is for the olympic commitè is here now and maybe they wanted to close during this period start at 1may and after that they try to keep it closed, or if it reopen they dosent matter until 2016 ;) with they i mean the goverment.


so anyone that has some good info?

Sorry for double posting just made a discovery. In Bubba report he say in 2006 that a rumor that Help is closing in may that year So this is a fairy tale comming every year I guess.

Then they for sure will not close it is what it is. Rumors

Good night all.

[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]It's really interesting, that over the last year or so, more and more people are making this trip to VM. Or better yet, you find newbies asking how to get there. VM is a great experience. I think everyone should at least see it for themselves. I just hope that with all the great experiences that we post about VM, we aren't giving newbies a false sense of security about going there. It a place where, if some shit jumped off, you could be literally and figuratively FUCKED!!!

Compared to what happens in copa, how much worse could it be in VM?? A lot worse. Not complaining, just an observation on a really seedy part of down, that I happen to enjoy.

ryjer[/QUOTE]
yep, I agree. And, speaking of shit: watch where you step; the street in front of VM has some funky stuff on it sometimes ... ;)

[QUOTE=Euro100]yep, I agree. And, speaking of shit: watch where you step; the street in front of VM has some funky stuff on it sometimes ... ;)[/QUOTE]One of the things that is so good about VM is the different smells, sights and sounds. Every now and then you watch out for the gun fire. Just wear old shoes, shorts and tee shirt and enjoy your self. Do not stare and stand out as if your a tourist.

Have fun, can not wait for a return in June for 10 days maybe longer. I will get there on a Friday and go to Centro to Carioca then to BA85 then to 4X4( to shower and hang out) then onto VM for some real fun.

[QUOTE=Acenva]One of the things that is so good about VM is the different smells, sights and sounds. Every now and then you watch out for the gun fire... Just wear old shoes, shorts and tee shirt and enjoy your self. Do not stare and stand out as if your a tourist.

Have fun, can not wait for a return in June for 10 days maybe longer. I will get there on a Friday and go to Centro to Carioca then to BA85 then to 4X4( to shower and hang out) then onto VM for some real fun....[/QUOTE]No offense guys but how come on vacation go seek a place this out? It sounds a little beyond the pale of what I can tolerate. LOL it sounds so awful, it's almost worth seeing just to see if it's really that bad. I have spoken to several guys who have been there and the descriptions were unbelievable.

Do you think that if the USA gets to freely travel to Cuba will that present a threat to Brazil in the realm of mongering? It is a shorter plan ride, and some may say no, but I have notice that as of late some Americans have chosen to travel more to DR than Brazil. If Cuba and America become more amicable and Americans have the choice to come and go as they please, do you think that Rio might become less attractive due to distance and prices of the GDP. Just wondering what the forum thinks. Oh by the way this place is Great. The people and the vast wealth of information. Lets look at it from all aspects. Price of the p4p, upto distance of travel and from what I have been told the change of the women physic in Rio. They are now looking a little heavier than in the past etc.

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