Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2714639]Most everyone has had enough with people repeating bullshit explanations given for Putin's invasion of the Ukraine.[/QUOTE]The media has been saying that Putin engaged in an inhumane, unprovoked act of aggression. Inhumane and act of aggression I agree with. Unprovoked is bullshit. This is like a smaller kid kicking in a bigger one in the shin, and the bigger one punching the smaller one in the face. As long as there is denial of the provocation, there will continue to be war. I get your point that this is an inhumane war of aggression. Do you get mine that Putin was provoked? Choosing a side means you are cheering on war and death.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2714639]Putin has said the Ukraine and the Ukrainians belong to Russia. All you have to do is look at Belarus if you want to see what the Ukraine would look like if they stayed in Russia's orbit.[/QUOTE]I cannot find anywhere where Putin said that. As for Belarus, the people are living in peace and their GDP per capita is double that of Ukraine. [URL]https://georank.org/economy/belarus/ukraine[/URL].

The Western Press has been hooting about the Russian "invasion" of Crimea when in fact Crimea is mostly Russian nationals and they voted to secede. The Western media has decried this as Putin's devil work and again ignored the economics.

[URL]https://georank.org/economy/russia/ukraine[/URL]

Look at GDP per capita. It is 4 X higher. Then look at debt to GDP. Ukraine has 4 X the debt Russia does. Crimea voting to secede from Ukraine was not Putin's devil work but a rational choice by the people who lived there.

To get back to the topic (which is the search for ukrainian pussy) there has been a massive resurgance of telegram channels where ukrainian girls offer their services. Selling vkdeos, photos and their bodies.

Once things calm down I will definitely be planning to visit Kiev again as that is pretty much the only place where one can enjoy hot young eastern europeans on a reasonable budget.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715077]The media has been saying that Putin engaged in an inhumane, unprovoked act of aggression. Inhumane and act of aggression I agree with. Unprovoked is bullshit. This is like a smaller kid kicking in a bigger one in the shin, and the bigger one punching the smaller one in the face. As long as there is denial of the provocation, there will continue to be war. I get your point that this is an inhumane war of aggression. Do you get mine that Putin was provoked? Choosing a side means you are cheering on war and death.

I cannot find anywhere where Putin said that. As for Belarus, the people are living in peace and their GDP per capita is double that of Ukraine. [URL]https://georank.org/economy/belarus/ukraine[/URL].

The Western Press has been hooting about the Russian "invasion" of Crimea when in fact Crimea is mostly Russian nationals and they voted to secede. The Western media has decried this as Putin's devil work and again ignored the economics.

[URL]https://georank.org/economy/russia/ukraine[/URL]

Look at GDP per capita. It is 4 X higher. Then look at debt to GDP. Ukraine has 4 X the debt Russia does. Crimea voting to secede from Ukraine was not Putin's devil work but a rational choice by the people who lived there.[/QUOTE]I give the liberal Media, 1-2 months, and they will turn on Ukraine Government. They will bring up the corruption and start asking questions. Also, they will questioning why there is almost zero negotiations going on to end this war. This will be the end of the Ukraine government.

Nobody cares about the war in the states anymore, so the liberal media will need to find another way to bring attention to this ridiculous war. Either way Ukraine Government, needs to find a solution quickly, before governments and the media starts asking questions.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2715217]To get back to the topic (which is the search for ukrainian pussy) there has been a massive resurgance of telegram channels where ukrainian girls offer their services. Selling vkdeos, photos and their bodies.

Once things calm down I will definitely be planning to visit Kiev again as that is pretty much the only place where one can enjoy hot young eastern europeans on a reasonable budget.[/QUOTE]You are insane, Kiev sucked before the war, it will be even worse now. If you want Hot Ukraine Girls go to Europe, they are long gone, but some guys refuse to admit this.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715071]Why? I have the same position as Israel.[/QUOTE]No, you don't. You don't have a position at all. You can't write a post without contradicting yourself several times. That's not a position, that's an affliction.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715071]You are a Jew supporting Nazis[/QUOTE]No, I'm a Jew supporting an underdog who fights against an unprovoked aggression from a way more powerful and openly fascist regime. Comes naturally to me.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715071]Russians who set your people free from the German concentration camps. Your position is completely indefensible.[/QUOTE]Russians liberated Nazis camps in the course of their own fight against Hitler. Not due to their immense sympathy for the plight of my people. And they've been milking it for every drop of the propagandist value ever since.

You wait. In just a few years no one will remember that Russia defeated the Nazis. Everyone will remember Russia only for this despicable war.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715077]The media has been saying that Putin engaged in an inhumane, unprovoked act of aggression. Inhumane and act of aggression I agree with. Unprovoked is bullshit. This is like a smaller kid kicking in a bigger one in the shin, and the bigger one punching the smaller one in the face. As long as there is denial of the provocation, there will continue to be war. I get your point that this is an inhumane war of aggression. Do you get mine that Putin was provoked? Choosing a side means you are cheering on war and death.

I cannot find anywhere where Putin said that. As for Belarus, the people are living in peace and their GDP per capita is double that of Ukraine. [URL]https://georank.org/economy/belarus/ukraine[/URL].

The Western Press has been hooting about the Russian "invasion" of Crimea when in fact Crimea is mostly Russian nationals and they voted to secede. The Western media has decried this as Putin's devil work and again ignored the economics.

[URL]https://georank.org/economy/russia/ukraine[/URL]

Look at GDP per capita. It is 4 X higher. Then look at debt to GDP. Ukraine has 4 X the debt Russia does. Crimea voting to secede from Ukraine was not Putin's devil work but a rational choice by the people who lived there.[/QUOTE]How the fuck was Putin provoked? He attacked Ukraine in 2014, unleashed horrors and death, started a hybrid war, stole its territory, and felt provoked because Ukraine kept fighting? Because Ukraine refused to back off?

So any big country can do anything it wants to a smaller and weaker country as long as its insane leader feels "provoked"?

Voted to secede? Under the occupation? So any occupying power in the world has the right to organize a sham referendum and take away a part of another country or only your beloved Russia?

What does a GDP or anything have to do with the bloody genocidal war that Putin is waging against its neighbor?

You people are something else.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2715218] I give the liberal Media, 1-2 months, and they will turn on Ukraine Government. They will bring up the corruption and start asking questions. [/QUOTE]The media do what it is told. Any independence they may have had fled years ago. The corruption of the Kiev criminals was covered before the war began but it is off the menu now.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2715218]Also, they will questioning why there is almost zero negotiations going on to end this war. This will be the end of the Ukraine government. [/QUOTE]I can answer that one for them. Boris Johnson's job is to stiffen resolve and get the gangster Zelensky to refuse talks. If any leader goes to Kiev to tell the fool to talk, Johnson is on the next plane saying Nyet.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2715218]Nobody cares about the war in the states anymore, so the liberal media will need to find another way to bring attention to this ridiculous war. [/QUOTE]Americans never cared about any war, except when they were filling body bags. The media only brings attention to what their bosses want us to know. The corrupt Zelensky junta is not one of those things.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2715218]Either way Ukraine Government, needs to find a solution quickly, before governments and the media starts asking questions.[/QUOTE]Government and media do not ask questions.

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62015954[/URL]

Two more British mercenaries. Given what was done to Russian POWs (cutting off their fingers, mutilating their legs), I think we can all agree these British and American criminals deserve no mercy and that firing squads are too good for them.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2715278]So any big country can do anything it wants to a smaller and weaker country as long as its insane leader feels "provoked"?.[/QUOTE]No. Only Israel and the USA can do that.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2715278]How the fuck was Putin provoked? He attacked Ukraine in 2014, unleashed horrors and death, started a hybrid war, stole its territory, and felt provoked because Ukraine kept fighting? Because Ukraine refused to back off?

So any big country can do anything it wants to a smaller and weaker country as long as its insane leader feels "provoked"?

Voted to secede? Under the occupation? So any occupying power in the world has the right to organize a sham referendum and take away a part of another country or only your beloved Russia?

What does a GDP or anything have to do with the bloody genocidal war that Putin is waging against its neighbor?

You people are something else.[/QUOTE]A despot is always provoked by anyone who would choose freedom and self-determination over the tyrant's tyranny. It's not even worth it to respond to these people. They're only here to provoke themselves!

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2715327]The media do what it is told. Any independence they may have had fled years ago. The corruption of the Kiev criminals was covered before the war began but it is off the menu now.

I can answer that one for them. Boris Johnson's job is to stiffen resolve and get the gangster Zelensky to refuse talks. If any leader goes to Kiev to tell the fool to talk, Johnson is on the next plane saying Nyet.

Americans never cared about any war, except when they were filling body bags. The media only brings attention to what their bosses want us to know. The corrupt Zelensky junta is not one of those things.

Government and media do not ask questions.[/QUOTE]Biden will be powerless fairly quickly and I imagine Johnson is not far behind. Yes, the liberal media does what they are told.

They will turn on Z. Mark my words, probably sooner then later.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2715383]A despot is always provoked by anyone who would choose freedom and self-determination over the tyrant's tyranny. It's not even worth it to respond to these people. They're only here to provoke themselves![/QUOTE]Beautifully stated.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2715278]How the fuck was Putin provoked? He attacked Ukraine in 2014, unleashed horrors and death, started a hybrid war, stole its territory, and felt provoked because Ukraine kept fighting? Because Ukraine refused to back off?

So any big country can do anything it wants to a smaller and weaker country as long as its insane leader feels "provoked"?
[/QUOTE]OMG. Where have you been? CIA took out a Democratically elected leader in Ukraine in 2014. Do you not remember "Yats is our guy" and "Fuck the EU"? Ukraine is not all sweet, little, and innocent. Since 2014, they have been trying to partner up with a bigger bully, us. Because you are a Dem, you think Ukrainegate and Russiagate were no big deal, but I guarantee they were to Russia. Giving aid to Ukrainian Nazis to harass and kill Russian nationals in Eastern Ukraine? Saying Putin rigged the 2016 election? Russian bots? The CIA and military advisers training Ukrainian soldiers? Ukraine Joining NATO? Shutting off water to Crimea? Investigating Peegate? The whole Steele Dossier?

Do you have anything that works between your ears?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715535]OMG. Where have you been? CIA took out a Democratically elected leader in Ukraine in 2014. Do you not remember "Yats is our guy" and "Fuck the EU"? Ukraine is not all sweet, little, and innocent. Since 2014, they have been trying to partner up with a bigger bully, us. Because you are a Dem, you think Ukrainegate and Russiagate were no big deal, but I guarantee they were to Russia. Giving aid to Ukrainian Nazis to harass and kill Russian nationals in Eastern Ukraine? Saying Putin rigged the 2016 election? Russian bots? The CIA and military advisers training Ukrainian soldiers? Ukraine Joining NATO? Shutting off water to Crimea? Investigating Peegate? The whole Steele Dossier?

Do you have anything that works between your ears?[/QUOTE]It's impossible to recognize when you're in a cult. Do you have loving parents or family who can intervene and take you someplace safe for gradual deprogramming?

Don't confuse us with the facts! Just because the USA almost went into a nuclear war over the USSR stationing nuclear missiles in Cuba near US territory during the Cuban missile crisis is no reason for Putin to almost go into a nuclear war over Ukraine joining NATO and Ukraine being used for stationing nuclear missiles and bioweapons labs near Russian territory! As we all know, the sovereignty of borders of nations is inviolate and Russia under no circumstances had the right to do a special military operation in Ukraine even though the US did several special military operations in places like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan etc. The key to understanding the correct move for yourself is to think like a Ukrainian politician and avoid being brainwashed by the mindless CNN propaganda. The real issues are how do I avoid getting stuck fighting in a war based on lies and get the most US foreign aid money for myself to smuggle into Switzerland? Think Petro Petroshenko, the former Ukrainian president got caught trying to escape to Poland after leaving the combat area. . . LOL.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715535]OMG. Where have you been? CIA took out a Democratically elected leader in Ukraine in 2014. Do you not remember "Yats is our guy" and "Fuck the EU"? Ukraine is not all sweet, little, and innocent. Since 2014, they have been trying to partner up with a bigger bully, us. Because you are a Dem, you think Ukrainegate and Russiagate were no big deal, but I guarantee they were to Russia. Giving aid to Ukrainian Nazis to harass and kill Russian nationals in Eastern Ukraine? Saying Putin rigged the 2016 election? Russian bots? The CIA and military advisers training Ukrainian soldiers? Ukraine Joining NATO? Shutting off water to Crimea? Investigating Peegate? The whole Steele Dossier?

Do you have anything that works between your ears?[/QUOTE]